Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 10 Waiver Wire Pickups, Streaming Options, News

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 10 Highlights

Released on November 10, 2015

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Hosts

• Andy Holloway
• Jason Moore
• Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

In this Week 10 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve into crucial fantasy football topics, including waiver wire pickups, streaming quarterback options, and the latest injury news. Their dynamic discussion offers listeners in-depth analysis, strategic advice, and actionable insights to enhance their fantasy football performance.

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1. Listener Engagement and Reviews

The episode kicks off with the hosts emphasizing the importance of listener reviews. They share a standout review from a Canadian listener, Jerfk, praising the podcast's effectiveness in dominating fantasy leagues:

"If you answered yes to any of the above, then you better listen to this podcast every single day. [...] I guarantee you will be unstoppable after absorbing the pearls of wisdom that these guys drop."
— Jason Moore [06:15]

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2. News and Notes

The hosts provide timely updates on key NFL players affecting fantasy rosters:

• Dion Lewis Injury

  • Andy Holloway reports that Dion Lewis has torn his ACL, ending his season.
  • Jason Moore humorously suggests:

    "If I were you, Andy, I would phone it in and play for next year in that specific league."
    — Jason Moore [08:51]

• Latavius Murray Status

  • Murray is recovering from concussion protocol and is trending towards being active, giving hope to teams relying on him.

• Ryan Fitzpatrick's Surgery

  • Fitzpatrick is scheduled for surgery on Friday but is expected to play through a surgically repaired left hand.

• Nick Mangold's Neck Injury

  • Mangold re-injured his neck but remains optimistic about playing Thursday. The hosts debate strategies for teams dependent on him.

• LaShawn McCoy's Status

  • McCoy is listed as day-to-day with a shoulder strain, potentially affecting his Thursday performance.

• Al Robinson and Allen Hurns Achievement

  • The Allen twins become the first teammates to gain 600 receiving yards and score six touchdowns each in the first eight games since 2007.

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3. Waiver Wire Pickups

Wide Receivers

• Devontae Adams vs. James Jones

  "Would you rather have Devontae Adams or James Jones for the rest of the season?"
  — Andy Holloway [17:52]

  Recommendation: Devontae Adams for consistent target volume.

• Marvin Jones and Dorial Green-Beckham

  • Jones and Green-Beckham are highlighted as must-adds due to their increasing involvement and opportunities.

• Nate Washington

  • Washington's value depends on the return of Cecil Schwartz. If Schwartz returns, Washington's targets might decrease, but he remains a viable option.

Running Backs

• James White

  "He's one of my... I really want to speculative add him to my roster."
  — Mike Wright [27:25]

  Recommendation: James White for his versatility and usage.

• Carlos Williams

  "Carlos Williams... had a touchdown before Shady McCoy went down with the shoulder injury and then after that he exploded."
  — Mike Wright [26:41]

  Recommendation: Carlos Williams for potential high usage despite tough matchups.

• Joy Bell and Jay Ajayi

  • Joy Bell is noted as a potential RB1 for his team, while Jay Ajayi is suggested as a strong handcuff option following the release of Jonas Gray.

Tight Ends

• Safari Jenkins

  "Safari Jenkins can catch the ball as well as Mike Evans. That's a guarantee."
  — Jason Moore [30:40]

  Recommendation: Safari Jenkins for reliable receptions and touchdowns.

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4. Streaming Quarterback Options

The hosts discuss effective strategies for streaming quarterbacks based on matchups and player performance:

• Kirk Cousins (Washington vs. New Orleans Saints)

  "I like Kirk Cousins a lot this week. I will probably be streaming him in a couple of my leagues."
  — Mike Wright [32:34]

  Pros: Favorable matchup against a struggling Saints defense, potential for high-yardage games.

• Blake Bortles (Jacksonville Jaguars vs. Baltimore Ravens)

  "Blake Bortles just went to the New York Jets... he's been doing that all season long."
  — Jason Moore [34:24]

  Pros: Baltimore's defense has been vulnerable against quarterbacks, offering a high upside.

• Ryan Fitzpatrick (Buffalo Bills vs. New York Jets)

  "If you want a fourth guy at the bottom of the barrel that's sitting out there, Sam Bradford's got an okay matchup."
  — Andy Holloway [36:30]

  Pros: Strong receiving corps with Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall, limited rushing ability by the Jets increases passing opportunities.

Notable Host Quote:

"I don't see why not. One other thing about Washington that lends itself to this game is New Orleans offense has been playing well. So it should be a higher scoring game."
— Mike Wright [32:58]

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5. Strategic Insights

• Jay Cutler as a Streaming Option

  "Jay Cutler is a great streamer. If you're a streaming guy and you need to set up for the playoffs, he's an option for you, right?"
  — Andy Holloway [04:55]

  Analysis: Despite upcoming tough matchups, Cutler's consistent performance makes him a viable option for playoff setups.

• Dorial Green-Beckham vs. Devin Funches

  "I like Green Beckham a lot as a stash for the close season."
  — Mike Wright [23:30]

  Decision: Green-Beckham is preferred over Funches due to increased snap counts and potential role expansion following coaching changes.

• Rex Ryan's Impact on Fantasy Decisions

  "That hurts the Bills' chances of winning. So foolish."
  — Jason Moore [37:50]

  Perspective: The unpredictability of coaching decisions, especially with figures like Rex Ryan, can significantly affect fantasy outcomes.

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6. Humor and Banter

Throughout the episode, the hosts infuse humor into their discussions, offering lighthearted moments that enhance the listening experience.

Example:

Andy Holloway: "Do you want a hot wings and chocolate cake?"
— Andy Holloway [00:27-00:30]

Mike Wright: "I'll take Steph Curry, please. One order of Steph Curry."
— Andy Holloway [14:21]

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7. Conclusion

The Fantasy Footballers wrap up the episode by reiterating their commitment to providing valuable insights and previewing upcoming content. They encourage listeners to engage through their website and social media channels.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jason Moore [02:56]:
  "With 17 plus fantasy points in five consecutive weeks, Jay Cutler has been doing it and doing it very consistently. Is he an every week start?"

• Andy Holloway [08:51]:
  "What would I do if I were you, guys? And that was a ridiculous sound effect."

• Jason Moore [25:38]:
  "Blake Bortles is the next Tom Brady."

• Mike Wright [32:46]:
  "Seven drops. We got to get it together in Washington with the pass catching."

• Jason Moore [34:24]:
  "Blake Bortles... he's been doing that all season long. He's, you know, I think he's got to be averaging near 302 a game."

• Jason Moore [37:55]:
  "If Gino was in, you would have a better chance of beating the Jets. So foolish."

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Final Thoughts

This Week 10 episode offers a comprehensive analysis of fantasy football strategies, emphasizing the importance of staying updated with player news and making informed waiver wire decisions. The hosts' expert advice, combined with their engaging banter, makes this episode a valuable resource for fantasy football enthusiasts aiming to dominate their leagues.

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Stay tuned for more insights and strategies in the upcoming episodes of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast!

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Good morning, everybody. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. I'm Andy Holloway joined by Jason Moore. Hello, Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

This is the place where your dreams come true.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, my dreams have not been coming true today, I'll tell you that. I have. I've had a hot wings and chocolate cake kind of morning.

[Mike Wright]

Oh. Oh, you're paying the iron price.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Was that what you fell into after the Dion Lewis news broke?

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like my team's name should be Hot Wings and chocolate Cake because it looked like, it looked like hot wings of chocolate cake looks. But then you wake up in the, you wake up in the morning. You wake up in the morning and Dion Lewis is on iron, Foster's on ir and now you're, you're sitting there and you're sitting there and you're going. Because I had some time to myself this morning, okay? And I'm sitting there going, all right, do I want to play Marvin Jones or Kamar Akin or Nate Washington or sign Theo Riddick?

[Mike Wright]

These are real problems, man. These are the problems that the people have out there.

[Andy Holloway]

And it just to make matters worse, I have to take Lewis out of my flex. And then Julio's on by, so I got to start two of them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Very nice, Kamar Aiken. You guys got any hot, you guys got any hot tips for me on Kamara Akin? Is he, is he a superstar in hiding?

[Mike Wright]

Well, lucky for you, Kamara Akin plays the Jacksonville Jaguars today or not today?

[Andy Holloway]

This week.

[Mike Wright]

Week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, well, we've got a show that will not simply focus on hot wings and chocolate cake. Thank goodness. Because if I think about that again tomorrow, you guys will be hosting. We got the news and notes for today. We'll get you caught up on the injury news. You heard us say Dion Lewis, torn ACL out for the season. We got our waiver wire show today. So we are going to deal with the tough questions like that, like those. So. And we're going to do our streamers, our full stream ahead section today. We'll tell you a quarterbacks we like in week number 10 now, are we in week 10?

[Jason Moore]

We are double digits.

[Andy Holloway]

What? All right, well, if you want to get a hold of the show, check us out on twitter@the ff ballers. You can visit us on YouTube. We're on the fantasy sports network. The website is thefantasyfootballers.com and we are on [e-mail] and let me Ask you a quick question, guys. With 17 plus fantasy points in five consecutive weeks, Jay Cutler has been doing it and doing it very consistently. Is he an every week start?

[Mike Wright]

I thought you were going to start quoting LL Cool.

[Jason Moore]

I was waiting. I was waiting.

[Mike Wright]

He's been doing it and doing it well. Jay Cuddy. Bubbles. I've thought about this. Maybe we should start calling him Bubbles.

[Andy Holloway]

Bubbles.

[Mike Wright]

His personality is so sparkly and light. Jay Cutler, man, he's getting it done. Like you said, the five weeks in a row of giving you very solid quarterback production. Unfortunately, the next two weeks for Jay Cutler, J Bubbies is St. Louis and then Denver, which are not the best matchups in the world, however. So let's say you bypass him on those next two weeks. His first fantasy playoff schedule is delicious. Is hot wings and chocolate cakes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, wait for a Cutler. That makes sense because then he would throw an interception.

[Mike Wright]

I'll just say it's. It's very good.

[Andy Holloway]

It looks good.

[Jason Moore]

I have it on good authority that Jay Cutler, under the bleachers, broke off his friendship with Matthew Stafford. And so those two have gone their separate ways. And Jay Cutler said, hey, I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to play good at quarterback and I'm gonna stay calm in the pocket, and I'm not going to force the issue too much.

[Andy Holloway]

Throw it to the tall guy who wears number 17.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They used to have a competition of who can sling it more, who can throw it farther every game, and now he said, I got to go play football now. Real football.

[Andy Holloway]

What's funny is he actually reminds me of Matthew Stafford from a couple years ago because he's got one target to rule them all.

[Mike Wright]

Well, the one target, really. I mean, as soon as Verrett went down for. That's when it was just the all you can eat buffet was open for Alshon Jeffrey. And the. That touchdown pass to Zach Miller that. That ball was going at least 85 miles per hour. At least.

[Andy Holloway]

You timed it.

[Mike Wright]

It almost. It almost went back in time.

[Andy Holloway]

It wasn't quite there.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so Jay Cutler is. He's a great streamer.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're a streaming guy and you need to set up for the playoffs, he's an option for you, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So his playoff schedule, week 14, home against Washington, week 15 on the road against Minnesota. Week 16 on the road against Tampa Bay. So, I mean, that It's. It's hard to beat that.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. I agree. And you were making the point that, you know, they're. They're still kind of they're three and five. They're in the mix where they're not.

[Mike Wright]

Completely out of small room for small margin for error. And this was. We were having a discussion about Langford. Langford. Langford, who was fantastic. Of what do we think the Bears are going to do moving forward if Forte was to come back in? Not next week, but the following. And I think Forte slides right back in. I think Langford completely becomes a backup again. As long as they're still winning. If they lose, if they start losing, they might try and see what they have in Langford, but it's hard to know.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, before we get into the news and notes, we like to take a second every week and go ahead and read a review from the listeners. We appreciate your reviews on itunes, on stitcher, on wherever you're listening. And so we're gonna go ahead and read one of those. Now, that was not a normal sentence.

[Mike Wright]

The thought was not completed.

[Andy Holloway]

Was not completed, but the button was pushed. Go ahead, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

This one comes in from Jerfk.

[Andy Holloway]

That's Jerfk.

[Jason Moore]

Jerfk, this is says is it's the best. He writes. Do you want to win in life? Do you play fantasy football? Do you like it when your friends are scrambling, putting together uneducated lineups in futile attempts to beat you?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

If you answered yes to any of the above, then you better listen to this podcast every single day. Then get ready to run through the air towards your fantasy football championship. That's right. I guarantee you will be unstoppable after absorbing the pearls of wisdom that these guys drop. It's a promise. Also, shout out to Chris Meaney from the Daily Dose on Fridays. He's helped me cash in daily ba boom.

[Mike Wright]

Guarantees are not actually 100% guaranteed. Thank you for that legal disclaimer.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there you go. Thank you very much for the review. That one comes in from Canada as well.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, bonjour.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's get into the news. I'm gonna try to do every. Every intro as though it's a mid sentence.

[Mike Wright]

Before we get into.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's get into the news and notes and.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Mike Wright]

Before we get into the news, we have to talk about what happened at the beginning of last night's game.

[Andy Holloway]

The Kadeem Kerry, John Fox. No, I've seen this before. I expected it, but okay.

[Mike Wright]

Expecting one thing and something being stupid are two completely separate issues.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree with you.

[Mike Wright]

Kadeem Carey has been a healthy scratch for about four weeks in a row. And then you. You start the game with Him. What are you doing?

[Andy Holloway]

Kareem Carey is a veteran, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He deserves a first shot as long as he's not an inactive scratch.

[Mike Wright]

And then we. Then we saw him in on. On the blitz pickup.

[Jason Moore]

Whoops.

[Mike Wright]

Jay Cutler strip sacked. It's just. What are you doing, man?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was. It was ridiculous. It was almost as though John Fox is following people on Twitter and realizing.

[Mike Wright]

Twitter, that he could.

[Jason Moore]

People ablaze trolling people. All he was doing.

[Mike Wright]

There was no guys full tilt on Twitter. If you were on. It was very enjoyable.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Langford panned out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he did. Just come on, man.

[Andy Holloway]

And he panned out in the receiving game.

[Mike Wright]

That layout catch.

[Andy Holloway]

Beautiful.

[Mike Wright]

My goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, news and notes. Let's talk about it. Dion Lewis out with the torn left ACL done for the season. What would you do if you were me, guys? And that was a ridiculous sound effect.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. That was the sound of his knees.

[Jason Moore]

What would I do if I were you?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm happy with you. Let me put it that way.

[Jason Moore]

If I were you, Andy, I would phone it in and play for next year in that specific league. That's what I would do.

[Andy Holloway]

How about if you were somebody who had Dion Lewis and you were looking for the Patriot solution?

[Mike Wright]

I think. I still think it's James White. We saw Brandon Bolden come in, and that's because White was a scratch. And that's because White does not play on special teams like Brandon Bolden does. Brandon Bolden is a Swiss army knife of a. Of a player who can kind of do everything. But I'm going to go back to the game where they had time to plan and prepare for. No, no. Dion Lewis and it was the James White show.

[Andy Holloway]

It was Danny Amendola show.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. But if you're looking for a running back slot, unfortunately, we cannot put Amadola in the running back position yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So we might want to move Tavon Austin there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He got enough carries.

[Andy Holloway]

Six carries for Austin this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Kenny Bridgewater.

[Mike Wright]

The Vikings expect him to be cleared for Sunday's game against the Raiders, which would be great news for Stefan Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

In other concussion news, too, I wanted to let people know Latavius Murray is trending in the right direction, not the wrong one. We don't know if he'll be active or not, but he was through some of the concussion protocol. So if you're counting on Latavius Murray, I'm expecting him to be back, but we'll see.

[Mike Wright]

When he was early. Did he miss a game last year after that concussion yes, he did good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Ryan Fitzpatrick could have surgery on Friday. Now that this is where the Thursday night game actually really help benefits the jets because he gets to play and have an extended recovery. And he's. They're not planning on him missing any games, are they, Jay?

[Jason Moore]

No, no. This was an expected move. We knew this last week that the Friday after this game was when they were going to have the surgery. Give him the most time to recover and he should be able to play through that even with the surgically repaired left hand.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Nick Mangold re injured his neck. He's optimistic he'll play on Thursday. I don't know how he could be considering he missed time with this injury before and now he has a short week. How do I counter jinx Nick Mangold into playing so that Chris Ivory can do well? What's the trick?

[Jason Moore]

I think the only trick is that.

[Andy Holloway]

You do I declare him out. Chris Ivory on your bench once again for your game. Not going to do that this week. Not going to do that. I am five and four, by the way, in the league that I was one in four in. I'm five and four and I'm coming for Jason.

[Jason Moore]

I'm waiting. I'll be waiting at top.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'll make my move in the playoffs. Bill's coach, REX Ryan considers LaShawn McCoy day to day. Do we expect him to play well on Thursday?

[Mike Wright]

NFL Network's Albert Breer. I'm having a very difficult time speaking.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Yeah. Today.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Just today. Only today. Brear reports Shady McCoy is dealing with a shoulder strain. Just a shoulder strain. So you have to monitor his practice situation. They have the Thursday night game. Really only one practice. So if he cannot practice, that's. That's probably not a good sign for Thursday.

[Andy Holloway]

And check this out. I got an interesting stat that I saw this morning. Alan Robinson and Alan Hearns, the Allen twins. First teammates to gain 600 receiving yards and score six touchdowns each in the first eight games of the season since 2007.

[Mike Wright]

And do you know. Do you know who the other two.

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receivers were back then?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Wes Welker and Randy Moss.

[Mike Wright]

That is correct.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, those guys stunk.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, that's. That's incredibly impressive because that, I mean, the distribution across both guys has been very high. I mean, both have been great.

[Jason Moore]

Blake Bortles is the next Tom Brady.

[Mike Wright]

Say, good thing the. The Jaguars record matches what the Patriots when they were doing that.

[Andy Holloway]

It's pretty much not so much, but.

[Mike Wright]

This weekend, man, Blake Bortles, you're All about it. Delightful.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So, okay, we'll get into the waiver wire here in a second unless you guys have any other news. Malcolm Floyd got hurt last night. Yeah, he gets hurt a lot.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if it's his style of play, going deep, big plays, but he gets hurt a ton.

[Mike Wright]

I had mentioned to you guys that I don't know when the San Diego Chargers hired Arian Foster's brother to be the trainer for the. For the team.

[Jason Moore]

That's so funny to me, but they are.

[Mike Wright]

There's a plague in San Diego right now and it stinks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there are some hurt players. That's a. Stevie and Antonio Gates will continue to get piles o targets. Yeah. As will Danny Woodhead.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Stevie Johnson had 7 for 68 yesterday. Great option and a PPR and just got.

[Andy Holloway]

He got tripped up 9, didn't he?

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're going to get into the waiver wire segment right now. I will say this. Do you know how I ended up with hot wings and cake?

[Mike Wright]

I have no idea.

[Andy Holloway]

I got the invite to. I got the invite to go to some Buffalo Wild Wings and watch some Monday Night Football. But I knew that this was going to be a long shot because it's right in that put the kids to bed section of the night. My son had a soccer practice. And so I approached this issue the way that you sometimes have to in a marriage with a good old fashioned bribe. Yep. I just started approaching it from the bribery standpoint and we came to an arrangement and I was able to go out and then destroy my body. So, all right, let's move on to the waivers.

[Jason Moore]

Let me in, coach.

[Andy Holloway]

I bribed her to let me destroy myself.

[Mike Wright]

Well done.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. All right, waivers. Let's talk wide receivers generally, depending on the leagues you're in. I mean, the leagues that we are in, wide receivers, the place you're going to get the most value in the waiver wire at this point in the season, because for running backs to really ascend at this point, you're talking injury and then buying those guys off injury. There are some guys that we like and we're going to go through them. However, let's start with the wide receivers. Now, we saw good things from Devonte Adams as well.

[Mike Wright]

Finally.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, finally healthy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So that helps.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, the first couple games. Game. I should say game. He was healthy and I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have Devonte Adams or James Jones rest of season?

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Adams.

[Mike Wright]

Adams. Just because of targets.

[Andy Holloway]

So he was 7 for 93. If he's available in your waiver wire. On your waiver wire, you go grab him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

These are guys. So him and LaFell. Lefell had five for 102. Those are two guys that if they're on your waiver wire, they're must adds. What I like to do in this situation is sometimes you have a roster that has some depth at wide receiver and you go, well, I can't go get these guys. Well, yeah, you might be able to pair a couple of your players, your wide receivers together, trade them away and then just restock. If these type of guys are in your waiver wire, go trade somebody. Go trade Marvin Jones.

[Jason Moore]

A lot of leagues, trade deadline is coming and people want to make moves this time of year. So, yeah, two for one, even a three for one trade so that you can get a stud starter and then you just restock.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, Kamar Akin was 6 for 62 in his last matchup. He no longer has Steve Smith there on the other side. So he's kind of the. I mean, it's hard to call him a one, isn't it?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

He's the one.

[Mike Wright]

He is the one.

[Andy Holloway]

So you expect him to lead. Let me ask you this. Do you expect him to lead the team in targets?

[Jason Moore]

I do, 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So Kamar Akin, if he's there, grab him and start him. This week?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, this week against Jacksonville. Like we said, great matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I would plug him right in.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And he might be forgotten about in your league because he was on by. So Michael Floyd is another guy that was on by.

[Mike Wright]

He's heating up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Was that NBA jam?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Four for 106 and a touchdown in his last game. He does have Seattle this week and.

[Jason Moore]

John Brown should be back healthy, so.

[Andy Holloway]

But they just.

[Mike Wright]

They play three wide and Floyd is finally healthy and really getting it going. So I don't mind playing anybody from the Cardinals even this week. I know it's a, It's a bad matchup in Seattle. I just, I, Maybe I'm being homer biased, but I feel like the Cardinals offense right now, you. Nobody can really stop them. You can slow them down a little bit, but you, you can't stop that team for an entire game.

[Andy Holloway]

Pop quiz for Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Top three quarterback touchdown numbers. Who's the top three quarterbacks with in terms of touchdowns?

[Jason Moore]

Tom Brady.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Carson Palmer.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And man, that Drew Brees number really throws things off. That seven touchdown game. I'm going to go.

[Mike Wright]

That's terrible noise.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's not a thinking noise, buddy. I'm going to have a loss engine. Then I'm going to think about this third one.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to throw Drew Brees out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Derek Carr.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, should have known.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. I'm kind of cheating to choose Derek Carr because it's actually Carr. Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers and Eli Manning all tied at 19. However, that's impressive for Carr because he had 19 touchdowns. How many interceptions do you think Carr has?

[Jason Moore]

Four.

[Mike Wright]

Five.

[Andy Holloway]

Four.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, the car.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason was apparently staring at a stat sheet before we started.

[Mike Wright]

He's not.

[Andy Holloway]

So I said all that because Palmer, even with the bye week, is number two in the league in touchdowns, so to speak. To Mike's point, there is. There's. Even if the yardage numbers for Palmer isn't. Aren't there, he's a big guy. Floyd's targeted a ton in the, in the red zone. So. All right, talk to me about Nate Washington because he's, he's flashed, he's come back, he's played two good games. I don't know much. I don't know what to make of that. I really don't. First off, he's nasty, Nasty Nate.

[Mike Wright]

Because he's Nasty Nate.

[Andy Holloway]

One game without Cecil Schwartz.

[Mike Wright]

Right. And we. I think Shorts is scheduled to be back this week.

[Andy Holloway]

So that.

[Mike Wright]

Does. That can hamper the value of Nate Washington, however. I mean, Washington has been getting a ton of targets and not every pass can go to Hopkins. Almost every pass can go to him, but not every single one. And that team just, they. They can't run in Houston.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm interested to see. For me, I wouldn't start Nate Washington this week, but I'd pick him up because of Cecil Schwartz. Nate Washington benefited from him going out big time. And so now the question is, Cecil's back, but does Cecil come in and take that number two spot away from Nasty Nate or does Nasty Nate keep it and we don't know yet the reports out of Houston, we just don't know. So we got to watch that game. If you want to stash Nate Washington in hopes that he keeps that number two spot, then I think he'll be a playable option rest of season.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because Troy did miss both of the last games.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Now let's talk about a couple of rookies that are on my radar being a Dion Lewis and Arian Foster widow. Doreal Green Beckham, Devin Funches. Green Beckham had five for 77. He actually got his fantasy production without a one for 12 yard touchdown. Interesting. Because of a couple of things. One, Kendall Wright was out. That's number one. So monitor his health. I actually think Kendall Wright's gonna miss this week as well. So Green Beckham could be a sneaky play, but he plays Carolina. The other thing is the coach changed there. And so if they, if Wizen Hunt was easing Green Beckham along or had some problem with Green Beckham getting snaps, maybe at this point they're realizing, hey, you drafted this guy pretty high. You need talent on offense. Let's use him.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the new coach came out and said right away that, that Dorial Green Beckham needs to become better as a run blocker. And he said that. And then he kept him on the field a lot and used him. So it just, it says to me that he's in the mind of the coaching staff. If Kendall Wright misses the game. I like Doyle Green Beckham, but the matchup is definitely no good.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you like him more or less than Devon Funches?

[Mike Wright]

Way more.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Because Funches, he had a good game. First good game, scored a touchdown. I think he had 70 yards. So you don't think Funches has more of an opportunity because of the offense and the fact they don't have passing weapons?

[Mike Wright]

He, he might, but I mean, we're. We're this far in the season and he only played 26 and a half percent of the snaps. Yeah, I mean, that's not a, that's not a number. That number has actually come down since the beginning of the season. And while we don't like the weapons in Carolina, they're okay. I mean, Ted Ginn is here and there and Philly Brown. I just, I don't see Funches surpassing those guys. And Green Beckham is actually very interesting to me because of the coaching change. Let's see. Because you don't have Ken Wisenhunt and his ridiculous holding rookies down. Put a guy out there, you drafted him really high. Let's see what he can do. Your season is probably gone. So let's. Let's build some chemistry between your rookie quarterback and your future, which is Green Beckham. And he was in for about 67% of the snaps last week. That's going up now. He's still behind Justin Hunter, which. Yeah, well, we'll see if he can surpass him. But I like Green Beckham a lot as a stash for the. To close the season.

[Jason Moore]

For people that, you know, it's been a long time since the draft season, since the NFL draft season. If you're aren't personally familiar with Dorial Green Beckham, he is a beast. He was one of the guys that a lot of the draftknit community said, you know, this guy maybe should be the number one wide receiver. He's just too raw. But he's like a Calvin Johnson. He's six'five 237 pounds. He is a physical freak. And coming out of high school, he was the number one highest rated football player in the nation. Okay, so this is a. This isn't just some guy that's like, oh, he's got an opportunity. Because Kendall writes down. Yes, that's true. But in addition, he is a physical freak that could perform in the NFL on a high level.

[Andy Holloway]

So he also, I mean, he led the team in targets last week.

[Jason Moore]

That's what you want.

[Andy Holloway]

10 targets. So a very good sign for Green Beckham. Put these four in order for our listeners. Nate Washington, Marvin Jones, Dorial Green Beckham and funches. If they're all sitting there on waiver wire, put them in order.

[Mike Wright]

Marvin Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Marvin Jones would be my first. DGB would be my second.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Jason Moore]

Then Nasty Nate.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Funches.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree too. So, running backs. Let's talk running backs, guys, right now. If James Starks is out there, you have to have him on your roster. Yes, I'd like to believe he's signed in most leagues, but he's not. I mean, I've talked to some people and talked about their leagues. They're. That's the first waiver claim. But he was 6 for 83 for a touchdown through the air, 10 for 39 on the ground. And we really don't know what in the world is going on with Lacy. A report came out again saying, hey, we really got to get Lacy going. Well, duh. Tell us something we don't know. Fantasy world killing people, especially this past week. So Starks is that kind of number one above the rest guy. So tell me some other guys that you are looking for on the waiver wire.

[Mike Wright]

Well, James White, like we talked about at the top of the show, he's one of my. I'm going to add him. I'm not blowing out my budget or things like that to get him, but I really want to speculative add him to my roster. And Carlos Williams we talked about. Shady McCoy may or may not play, but Carlos Williams is very solid. I mean, he was 9 for 110 and two touchdowns. He had a touchdown before Shady McCoy went down with the shoulder injury and then after that he exploded. So if Williams gets the opportunity, I think he can produce. He's. Unfortunately, it's the Jets Thursday night, but I still would believe that Carlos Williams would be a solid running back to play this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Carlos Williams is a great ad. I definitely think if he was on waivers in any league that I'm in, which I've checked, he's not, I would be putting a claim on him. I'll give you two guys that I'm looking for in some of my leagues. So you got Joy Bell, but I'm. That I actually.

[Andy Holloway]

Gross.

[Jason Moore]

I know it's gross to say it's a punchline, but the truth is he looks like he is the first in line, the starter on a team that wants to run the ball more. Now, of course, they're a bad team, so they're not always going to be in the games. I mean, I'm not sitting here saying that Joy Bell is going to be a great RB1 or even an even an RB2 from a fantasy perspective, but he is going to be the RB1 on that team. They are going to try to run the ball more and he's had success in the past. So he's. He's a guy that you don't need an injury like Carlos Williams. He's just the guy and he's probably on waivers. And then another guy that I'm adding not to kind of a different situation is Jay Ajayi. Now, I've got Lamar Miller. So if you have Lamar Miller, I definitely think you have to go to waivers and add him because very much.

[Andy Holloway]

A Forte Langford situation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he looked great running the ball. They cut this morning Jonas Gray. So that says, hey, I mean, Jay Ajayi in college was unfathomably good statistically and fell to the fifth round. Got drafted by the Dolphins just.

[Andy Holloway]

Just because of injury concerns, right? Knee concerns. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So he's a great runner. He's a great backup there and he's a fantastic handcuff the cutting of Jonas Gray to me Says we found our.

[Mike Wright]

Number two guy and the last name I'm going to throw out is this is a. If Latavius Murray is out this weekend and you are desperate and you're looking for a running back situation, I would grab Marcel Reese. He's been a solid fill in guy. Now Taiwan Jones is probably still the number two, but Marcel Reese I imagine is going to handle all the passing work and, and he's, he's been a success story for fantasy when he's had to fill in like this for the Raiders before.

[Andy Holloway]

I completely agree with you. He would be the guy in on third down every single time probably. And he's going to have the reliability of just kind of catching a few passes at least if you, if you rolled Jones in there, you'd be hoping for a home run and I wouldn't do it. So it's tough when you have a guy go out and then you have multiple choices behind them. Those are the hardest ones to pick. So. But Reese has been been the guy before. All right. From the tight end perspective, if you had to grab a guy this week, Mike, who would you grab?

[Mike Wright]

Safari and Jenkins. It sounds like he's going to be back finally this week he takes on Dallas and we, there's, there's not a whole lot to go on.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought you might have a league where you get like points for guys that are supposed to play this week and then get sat down.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, I have, I have a couple of those.

[Jason Moore]

Christine, Michael is hot.

[Mike Wright]

He's always the top guy, the top pick every week. Safari and Jenkins. Week one was a big part of the, of the game plan. Vincent Jackson's status is still unknown. So if it's Mike Evans and Safari and Jenkins, I feel confident in Jenkins.

[Jason Moore]

And we know that Austin Safari and Jenkins can catch the ball as well as Mike Evans. That's a guarantee.

[Andy Holloway]

So did we even get into the Mike Evans ridiculous. Oh we did.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we did.

[Jason Moore]

We did. I shared it, I think just from my personal Twitter dropping it like it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Hot, like it was actually on fire. Eric Ebrin's a guy that you can probably start this week. He's been very pretty good this year. And then Crockett Gilmore is a guy whose targets might go up because of the absence of Steve Smith. So pay attention to him. Give me some defenses that you're okay with this week.

[Mike Wright]

I like the Steelers against the Browns, the Eagles like we had talked about last week, why were mentioning them so highly is because they have a string of decent matchups. So the Eagles versus the Dolphins and of course the Bengals versus the Texans. The Bengals are probably not available, but those are, those are three that stand out to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Makes sense. All right, let's go ahead and spend some time talking about streaming quarterback options.

[Jason Moore]

Full stream ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

Alrighty. Jason had Derek Carr last week and it was mighty fine. Mighty fine indeed. I, I'll be honest, when you guys got, you guys got to our show. Doc, before I did both of your guys, I thought I might just say, forget it. I'm just jumping on with one of them because I'm not super confident in mine. So I'm gonna have that disclaimer out there. But you guys, I like both of your options a ton. So let's go ahead and start with Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I thought you were going through last week's. But so this week I'm setting my phasers to kill. I've upgraded from stun going with captain Kirk Cousins at home against the New Orleans Saints. And that defense, I know, it's pretty, it's pretty rough. They've given up 10 touchdowns in the last two weeks and 300 yards the last five weeks. And that's. I fudged Matt Ryan from 295 to 300.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So 300 the last five weeks and Kirk Cousins has actually been okay. If you look at his stat line from last week, it looks pretty bad. But that's not including seven drops.

[Andy Holloway]

Ouch.

[Mike Wright]

Seven. We got to get it together in Washington with the pass catching. So I like Kirk Cousins a lot this week. I will probably be streaming him in a couple of my leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't see why not. One other thing about Washington that lends itself to this game is New Orleans offense has been playing well. So it should be a higher scoring game.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And they cannot, I mean, maybe against New Orleans, but they can't run the ball at all. I mean, Washington cannot run the ball. I mean, Matt Jones fumbled away his opportunities last week and he has been, I mean his, his two touchdown game in the beginning of the year is the biggest outlier of that we've seen this season because people jumped on board. Oh my goodness, no. And then Alfred Morris is a, I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Remember when Alfred Morris was a hot fantasy commodity?

[Andy Holloway]

He is like a car that stinks with three flat tires. I really hope he just does nothing.

[Mike Wright]

I hope that Morris goes somewhere and gets a chance next year to.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think, I don't think it's going to happen. I remember preseason saying that Alfred Morris looked slow to me and looked different. I felt really stupid week one when he came out and did great. But then the rest of the season he's a goal.

[Andy Holloway]

He might be a goal lineback.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. So the guy that I'm going with, we've talked about a little bit at the beginning of the show in the Allen twins of Alan Robinson and Alan Hearns, but it is Mr. B.B. blake Bortles. So Blake Bortles just went to the New York Jets. He was in New York on their top rated past defense and threw.

[Mike Wright]

Not anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

Not really.

[Jason Moore]

Well, sure it was. It was. Now they're not because he threw for 381 yards and two touchdowns and he's been doing that all season long. He's, you know, I think he's got to be averaging near 302 a game. And this week, this week he's going to Baltimore, who is the 31st defense against the quarterback from a fantasy perspective that they have been giving up well more than 300 and probably averaging about three touchdowns a game. So I think this is a great stream. He's available in the majority of leagues. Pick him up.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the thing. When I saw Blake Bortles was your stream of the week, all I thought was like, cheater. Like, how in the world is Blake bortles available in 49% of leagues or whatever it is still.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's because his name's Blake Bortles.

[Jason Moore]

And he's not winning games. I mean, you know, if I'm a Jaguars fan, I'm. I guess I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm happy, very excited.

[Jason Moore]

I'm happy with his improvement this year. But, you know, he's not the best NFL quarterback who is owned more.

[Mike Wright]

I'm checking this right now. Blake Bortles or Matt Stafford?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's. Stafford is way More so in ESPN.

[Mike Wright]

Stafford as of right now is owned in 59.4. And that's. So that's including a buy. People were holding Matt Stafford over the buy. Hold on, I gotta.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Change my settings.

[Andy Holloway]

He's probably 51 or something and Bortles is 55%.

[Jason Moore]

That is what is going on.

[Andy Holloway]

This is why people who listen to our show win their leagues exactly 100%. Because you hear five weeks ago which guy to own from those and people still don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Let's. Let's take it up a notch with Peyton Manning. Oh, Peyton Manning is owned in 94%.

[Jason Moore]

94%. He is ruining people's fantasy franchises.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, the last place team in our league is the Peyton Manning, owner.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Because how do you not start him?

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

He's Peyton Manning.

[Andy Holloway]

He's Peyton Manning.

[Jason Moore]

This is I think the seventh week in a row we have said this. Package Peyton Manning with another player on your team and trade him away and.

[Andy Holloway]

You'Ll be able to. Because 95% of the world still wants him.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, my stream of the week, I'm going to go with the same guy I went with last week, which is Ryan Fitzpatrick. Because Fitzpatrick, he's got the Thursday night game. Yes, he's got the hand injury. But here's, here's the three pieces. One, Eric Decker, Brandon Marshall.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they're good.

[Andy Holloway]

Number two, they cannot run the ball right now. Three weeks in a row, they can't really run the ball. They can run it on the goal line. But even with the two ivory touchdowns on the goal line last week Fitzpatrick put up 25 fantasy points in our, in our six point league and that's over 17 in a regular league. And Buffalo's middle of the pack when it comes to defending the pass and it's in New York. So I'm going to just go with him. If you want a fourth guy at the bottom of the barrel that's sitting out there, Sam Bradford's got an okay matchup. Sammy biscuits.

[Jason Moore]

Did you see what, what Rex Ryan did for this coming week?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh no. I've been waiting for it though. So tell me.

[Jason Moore]

He made a new temporary one week captain on the team. He promoted one of the players to captain. Any guess?

[Mike Wright]

Hold on, hold on. Who did he promote to the captain?

[Andy Holloway]

It's not Percy Harvin.

[Jason Moore]

It might or might not have been the man who broke Geno Smith jaw.

[Mike Wright]

They signed Rex Ryan. Oh my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, come on. It's so ridiculous. You know, I like Rex Ryan just from an entertainment stand. I mean he made him an honorary captain. He's an honorary captain this week going. I made him ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

What's, what's funny funny about this going.

[Andy Holloway]

Back to New York. That's on Thursday night.

[Mike Wright]

That is, that is classic Rex Ryan because he hurt.

[Jason Moore]

He.

[Mike Wright]

I mean that hurts the Bills chances of winning.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. If Gino was in, you would have a better chance of beating the Jets. So foolish.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my goodness.

[Mike Wright]

Rex Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, never leave the NFL, Rex. Never go from team to team, please.

[Mike Wright]

And then we got to get him in the booth. Yeah, in the booth.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. That is a perfect way to end today's show with Rex and his ridiculousness. So looking forward to that game though. I'm. It'll be interesting with Rex and his team's team. When he needs his team to play well, they kind of play well for him. I mean, that's been the history for Rex Ryan, whether you go back to how they played at the very end of the year last year when he was the lame duck going out and he had a big game and they played great for him, or, you know, now a rivalry game going back to New York City.

[Jason Moore]

New York City.

[Mike Wright]

And how is. It's only, it's only been a half a season. That's fine. I'll admit that small sample size. How is Rex Ryan this quarterback evaluator who's like, we should pick up Tyrod Taylor and how does no, how do the rest of the league not understand that Tyrod Taylor can throw the ball?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the rest of the league hasn't had to stare at Matt Castle and namescape him EJ Manuel for as long as Rex did. So his eyes had been turned out where before.

[Mike Wright]

Everybody else just think it's is that's madness.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So. All right. Thank you for listening to today's show. We will be back tomorrow answering listener questions. We got some more fun stuff in store. So as always, we'll be back on Wednesday. Thank you very much for listening. Check out jointhefoot.com goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter the FFBall.