Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 13 Fantasy Forecast, Starts of the Week, News

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Week 13 Forecast, News, and Starts

Release Date: December 3, 2015

In the Week 13 episode of the "Fantasy Footballers" podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright deliver a comprehensive analysis of the current fantasy football landscape. They delve into playoff strategies, streaming quarterback debates, key player news, and provide actionable recommendations for starting lineups. Here's a detailed summary of the episode’s key points and discussions.

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Playoff Strategies and Timing

Andy Holloway kicks off the discussion by questioning the optimal timing for fantasy football playoffs. He muses, “When does the next season start again? Is it right after Week 17?” (00:51), highlighting the shift some leagues are making to begin playoffs earlier. Jason Moore estimates that about 10-20% of leagues might start playoffs in Week 13, especially in 12-team leagues where six teams make the postseason (01:53).

Streaming Quarterbacks: Rodgers vs. Big Ben

A listener named Michael poses a dilemma: choosing between Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger without the ability to stream quarterbacks.

Andy Holloway initially leans towards Big Ben, mentioning his higher ceiling: “If Big Ben was somehow out with the concussion or any of those, you know, he's questionable right now...” (05:19). However, Mike Wright counters, emphasizing Rodgers’ reliability: “You absolutely have to put Rodgers in. … he’s not going to crap your team” (04:30). This sparks a broader conversation about the viability of streaming QBs versus securing a consistent starter, with Andy acknowledging that while streaming has worked this year, their advice may evolve based on future trends (05:42).

Injuries and Player News

The trio updates listeners on key injuries impacting fantasy decisions:

• Calvin Johnson is expected to play in the Thursday night game, despite earlier doubts (10:36).
• Alan Hearns from the Jaguars is unlikely to play in Week 13, potentially elevating Julius Thomas’s value (10:55).
• Tyler Ifert is not practicing on Wednesday due to a stinger, raising concerns about his availability (11:41).

Roster Strategies Amid Injuries

Andy Holloway expresses concerns about the increasing number of season-ending injuries, pondering a shift from a power-based to a depth-oriented drafting strategy for future seasons: “I think I figured out the trick and the secret to fantasy football. Don’t draft any players that can get injured” (07:55). Jason Moore reflects on historical fantasy trends, noting the importance of adapting to the evolving NFL landscape beyond the traditional running-back dominance (06:49).

Game Matchup Analyses

The hosts provide in-depth analyses of pivotal Week 13 matchups:

• Packers vs. Lions (18:12): Andy and Mike evaluate Matt Stafford’s improved performance under new offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter, making him a viable fantasy QB option. They also discuss the Packers' mediocre run defense and Eddie Lacy's potential exploitation of the Lions' vulnerabilities.

• Texans vs. Bills (24:46): The discussion centers around Tyrod Taylor versus Brian Hoyer, with both QBs being less favorable picks. Mike Wright recommends Lashawn McCoy as a solid start due to Carlos Williams' doubtful status (25:36).

• Ravens vs. Dolphins (27:55): Jason Moore is excited about Lamar Miller's performance, while Andy focuses on Buck Allen's potential against Miami’s weak run defense (28:06).

• Bears vs. 49ers: The conversation covers player starts and defensive strengths, with Zach Miller highlighted as a good tight end option against a struggling 49ers pass defense (40:58).

Starts of the Week: Player Recommendations

The episode culminates with each host sharing their "Starts of the Week," offering targeted recommendations for key positions:

• Quarterbacks:

  • Mike Wright recommends Jay Cutler for his improved offense and healthy Alshon Jeffrey (55:55).
  • Jason Moore favors Ryan Fitzpatrick, anticipating a strong performance against the Jets’ secondary (56:23).
  • Andy Holloway opts for Alex Smith based on the Raiders' run strategy and weak pass defense (56:30).

• Running Backs:

  • Andy endorses Gio Bernard for his favorable matchup against Cleveland’s run defense (57:54).
  • Mike selects C.J. Anderson from the Broncos, leveraging the Chargers’ tendency to give up yardage to RBs (58:11).
  • Jason opts for David Johnson, despite his fumble concerns, due to the Rams’ lenient run defense (59:49).

• Wide Receivers:

  • Andy chooses Martavis Bryant for big-play potential against Indianapolis (60:49).
  • Mike recommends Devonte Parker as a breakout candidate against Baltimore’s weakened pass defense (61:44).
  • Jason favors Danny Amendola based on recent performance and a favorable matchup against the Eagles (63:40).

• Tight Ends:

  • Andy trusts Vance McDonald to step up following Vernon Davis' departure (64:35).
  • Mike picks Julius Thomas for his involvement in the Jaguars’ offense (66:17).
  • Jason selects Antonio Gates despite facing Denver’s strong pass defense, anticipating the need for him to make plays (66:41).

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright on Rodgers vs. Big Ben: “Aaron Rodgers is the safer play. … he’s not going to crap your team” (04:30).

• Andy Holloway on streaming methodology: “This show is not going to be about one methodology to winning at fantasy football for the next five years. … if that trend changes in fantasy football, then our advice is going to change” (05:08).

• Mike Wright on Vance McDonald: “He is very athletic. … I just have confidence that at least one is going to happen this week” (66:44).

Final Thoughts and Future Episodes

As the episode concludes, the hosts tease upcoming segments, including daily doses and deeper fantasy forecasts. They encourage listeners to engage via their website and social media platforms for more insights and updates, promising to continue aiding fans in navigating the complexities of fantasy football.

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This episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast offers a wealth of information for fantasy managers, blending strategic advice with up-to-date player news and matchup analyses. Whether you're debating QBs, managing tight end options, or fine-tuning your starting lineup, Andy, Jason, and Mike provide the expert guidance needed to excel in your fantasy league.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike wr.

[Andy Holloway]

Happy Thursday, everybody.

[Jason Moore]

I was really looking forward to a happy birthday there.

[Andy Holloway]

You always say that.

[Jason Moore]

Well, when, when you say happy, that's birthday. It's nobody's. But I want it to be mine.

[Andy Holloway]

Certainly not mine. I've got to find a replacement for Rob Gronkowski. That's not a birthday gift.

[Jason Moore]

Week 13 Just listen to this show, Andy. We'll have some.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we will.

[Jason Moore]

Starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I know, I know. And I made my decision yesterday. I looked long and hard at the waiver wire and all the options. The Rudolph's, McDonald's and Millers and oh my, oh, my. Yes. So we have a good show for you today. We are the Fantasy Footballers. Thanks for hanging out with us today. I'm Andy Holloway joined by Jason Moore. Howdy. And Mike the fantasy hitman himself.

[Mike Wright]

Hello.

[Andy Holloway]

And we are back again. We're talking week. Golly. Is it 13?

[Mike Wright]

Yep. It's time for the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

When does the next season start again? Is it right after week 17? They just start, start it on a cycle. I'm sure at some point Goodell will get that point and it'll just be in the trillions and trillions of dollars at the.

[Jason Moore]

What percentage of leagues do you think start their playoffs this week in 13.

[Andy Holloway]

Start this in 13.

[Mike Wright]

Start in 13.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, we used to.

[Jason Moore]

Right. That's why I'm saying because we used.

[Andy Holloway]

To have the like double, double week playoffs. I think there's a decent amount, 10%, 20%. I'd go in there.

[Mike Wright]

Range.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

So starting, you know, some people are already in playoffs. A lot of people start next week. If you're in like a 12 team league where six make the playoffs, next week's kind of when it starts. So. Yeah. What are we doing today? We got our news and notes. We're going to let you know what's going on with some injuries and things like that. We got our fantasy forecast. We're going to go through the matchups, talk about some of the things we're seeing this week and guys you should sit, guys you should start. And then we have our starts of the week. The guys that we're very confident in going into this week help you make some decisions with your lineup. If you want to connect with the show, you can do so on TwitterFFballers, you can go to the website thefantasyfootballers.com that's where you can submit questions to the show. We always try to answer some questions on the show. We answer them on Twitter. We do things like that and visit jointhefoot.com Our fantasy football community, where we are and have been helping people all year long. It's been very rewarding to get to this point in the season and to get the questions coming in saying, hey, I'm locked into the playoffs. What are some guys for these matchups? Or hey, I'm battling to get into the playoffs. If I win this week, I'm in and it's very, very fun. Would you agree? You both look very enthralled in your, in your spaces there.

[Mike Wright]

Just making sure nothing's happening on the tweeter.

[Jason Moore]

Gotta be checking that.

[Andy Holloway]

Checking the. Breaking the breaking news. So my quick question for the day actually comes from a listener whose name is Michael. And he sent in a question to me or to us on the website and his question was basically, you know, Aaron Rodgers or Big Ben this week? But let me, let me explain kind of his situation. He has no ability to stream a different quarterback. You got two max on your roster. He's got Big Ben and Rogers. Do you have any concern and I guess answer the question, Rogers or Big Ben? But for him, if Big Ben was somehow out with the concussion or any of those, you know, he's questionable right now. The official designation, Rogers is a Thursday game. So he has, he asked me, you know, I like Big Ben more this week. That was my answer to him. But if there's any doubt about Big Ben, don't you just have to play Rogers on Thursday Night Football?

[Mike Wright]

Yep. Yeah. You absolutely have to put Rogers in. Don't worry about it. And it's not like Rogers has been bad. Right. Let's look at what he's done. It's not bad. It's just not a guy you would draft in the first round as a quarterback. And that's where the people have been disappointed by his numbers because other guys take him way later are producing at equal or greater value to Aaron Rodgers. But he, you know, when you put him in, he's not going to, he's not going to crap your team. He's not going to lose it for you on Thursday night.

[Jason Moore]

I just love that I've never heard that phrase, he's going to crap your team. I just, that tickled my insides. Because you don't want people that are going to Crap your team.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you don't. No, you don't.

[Mike Wright]

So I would put him in. You know, he's probably good for at least 252. I know the lines. Defense has been playing much better. It is in Detroit. But still with all of that, I feel confident that Aaron Rodgers will get me suitable numbers. Maybe Big Ben outscores him this week. It would not shock me at all. But if, if your situation is you got to get some points, you got to put Rogers in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. Aaron Rodgers is the safer play. You got to keep in mind he gets yards on the ground as well. So his baseline will go up against the Lions, but Big Ben's the higher ceiling. But if you're worried about the injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Just so you guys are so smart. I actually what I told him was I said, don't deal with this decision. Just start Austin Davis. Ah. Because Austin Davis is in line for a start this week. So maybe you guys are way just.

[Jason Moore]

Completely disregarded his only two quarterbacks. So who are you dropping? Which one?

[Mike Wright]

Aaron Rodgers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, dropping for Davis. For Austin Davis.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Actually, you know, that's what Mike Penton would do.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. So Mike, Mike brought up an interesting point though, because he said, you know, this season Rogers isn't justifiable as that is that starter. Obviously Andrew Luck wasn't justifiable. And so the streaming quarterback, you know, if there's one refrain we've seen in these emails that come in and say, hey, I'm in the playoffs, it's been, hey, I've been streaming quarterbacks all year long. It's been working and it's been working. But I want to say this at least, you know, you guys might disagree with me, but you won't. So. But this show is not going to be about one methodology to winning at fantasy football for the next five years. You know, I see us probably going into 2016 with the same refrain about streaming quarterbacks because we saw it carried out this year. But if that trend changes in fantasy football, then our advice is going to change.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. There's a, you know, been a long time thing for running backs, for instance. You know, 20 years ago in fantasy football, running backs were the end all, be all, and they had to be every pick in the first, you know, three rounds. They were the only thing that mattered. And that's carried over probably too far in some leagues. You've got to be able to shift to what the NFL is doing. And. And we try.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and yeah, I mean, I figured out, I told Mike this on the Phone. I think I figured out the trick and the secret to fantasy football.

[Jason Moore]

Breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, let me hit the button.

[Jason Moore]

Breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't draft any players that can get injured. That's the key.

[Mike Wright]

Which means you don't draft anything. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You're abstaining from fantasy football.

[Andy Holloway]

Got it. The humor of it is, is we've had so many season impacting injuries this year, and obviously I'm a little. I'm a little sensitive because I lost Fion Lewis and I lost Gronk and I lost Foster. But it makes me question going into next year, a little bit of the depth versus power. I mean, part of my philosophy in fantasy football for a long time has been, you know, kind of take the risk, put the best possible players on the field. There was a time when my roster looked, you know, just glistening and great, but now I'm questioning that for next year because the injuries are so great.

[Jason Moore]

Now we will see.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the wrong word.

[Jason Moore]

That's me versus you and our league of record. We're going to see that strategy because I've gone the depth route this year and you've gone the power route this year.

[Andy Holloway]

And you were mad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I couldn't get deals at the end of the year for big names, but.

[Jason Moore]

Now, yeah, I would rather in general have those power players than the depth. But we're going to find out this.

[Andy Holloway]

Year what's just interesting.

[Mike Wright]

What will be really interesting for next year is running backs in the first round. I think that's going to be the hot topic of the fantasy because you.

[Andy Holloway]

Saw over the offseason, Charles. And who's left?

[Mike Wright]

Adrian Peterson.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

He's the only first round running back I can think of. Who's left.

[Andy Holloway]

No, and the guys we're relying on are guys like Eddie Lacey.

[Jason Moore]

Looks like he might be okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But C.J.

[Mike Wright]

Anderson.

[Jason Moore]

But he. Yeah, those, those first round picks, they ruined your team for that year. Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Held.

[Andy Holloway]

Now you crapped your team.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm sorry. They crapped your team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Actually, honestly, Lacy and CJ Anderson could not be the. I mean, those have got to be the two guys that crap most. The most teams. So. All right, let's move on.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

And I know we went a little longer and kind of went different places with that quick question, but I think that's a little bit more of what you're going to see during the preseason from us too, where we're going to discuss and look at those trends and the philosophies behind the moves. And I like having those discussions and kind of reflecting on the season. So. All right, news from around the NFL. Darrell Rivas. What's his name again? Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Darren. Darren Reavis is his name. So you can correct that. Let me fix that.

[Andy Holloway]

I just see a State Farm commercial every time you say that.

[Jason Moore]

Darren Reavis.

[Andy Holloway]

So Darrell and almost Mike. Can I say, doesn't it mess with how we say it? Like I have to pause now and go, wait, Darrell. Yeah, so. So anyway, he's likely out this week again. Is this, is this fortuitous news for Mr. O. Dell Beckham Jr. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Or I. That. That groan is I have to play against him in our league of record and I really need to make up some points.

[Andy Holloway]

Get over to New York. Get, get working on that Reavis concussion situation.

[Mike Wright]

Beckham is backup is going not just ham. He is going full meat and potatoes. Honey glazed, prime. Prime ham.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me see where, out of curiosity, where do we have Odell Beckham as a, as a group this week in our ranking?

[Mike Wright]

I tried to rank him as low as I possibly could and he's still, I think, top five for me.

[Andy Holloway]

He's my number one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I don't blame you.

[Jason Moore]

He's eight for you. Five.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you.

[Mike Wright]

I got him at eight. Yeah, that's just wishful thinking. I was going to say.

[Andy Holloway]

That's just to talk yourself into some hopes there.

[Mike Wright]

That was, that was actually done when I was. I thought Revis, I thought he was saying Revis might be back and clearly he's not going to be. So Beckham will have to move up.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Not big news here because Calvin was questionable last week before the Thursday night game. But Calvin Johnson is expected to play on Thursday night. So if you see that Q next to his name, don't fear. We think he'll be out there, but pay attention whenever you see that. All right. Greg Olson from the Jaguars, their offensive coordinator said it's unlikely Alan Hearns will play in week 13. How does that impact the offense?

[Mike Wright]

Well, first, how difficult is it to play tight end for the Panthers and play call for the Jaguars at the exact same time?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's definitely not a different guy.

[Jason Moore]

Spelled different, is it? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

We will talk about a little bit later, but it's a big bump for Julius Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

I won't believe it until game time.

[Andy Holloway]

That earns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Hearn, you know who he's on the phone with right now? Eric Decker. Yeah, Eric Decker saying, come on, buddy, I know you're seeing double.

[Jason Moore]

Hearns has earned my Respect this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I talked about it last time. I like the Jaguars offense, you know, even if you don't want me to. All right, Tyler Ifert is not practicing on Wednesday. What's the latest on Ifer? We did not.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he had that stinger that took him out of the game. Not practicing on Wednesday is certainly not a great sign, but he still has plenty of time to get some limited work in. He could even not practice today. Hopefully you see limited on Friday and then if he's limited Friday, he's good to go. But if he misses the next two days, that's some trouble.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Trouble in River City, Chuck.

[Andy Holloway]

Andrew west is practicing in full on Wednesday. That's big news.

[Mike Wright]

He'll be back.

[Andy Holloway]

But what does it mean? Because Spencer Ware was extremely efficient in two games.

[Mike Wright]

So west will be the primary ball carrier where will absolutely be worked in. In. But west is the pass catching back. Spencer Ware was not. He did not excel in that part of the game. So that'll be West's role. So I still think if you. Let's say you have both of them. Who are you going to start? It's west for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We talked about the Chiefs defense and the impact of Justin Houston's injury. Good news came out about that. It wasn't a strained or sprained pcl, whatever that report was. He. He's dealing with a hyperextended knee, which is the second. Kind of like hyperextended knees are very good news in the NFL for him and Gronk. Yeah. So basically Justin Houston, he could be back. He hasn't even been ruled out this week. I doubt he plays this week. But that's good news for the Chiefs defense going forward as they play at home against San Diego next week. What else do we got going on? I think we should.

[Mike Wright]

Austin Davis is officially going to start. We kind of mentioned it a little bit, buddy, but Davis will be starting for the Browns. However, it's week to week up there says a report that Mike Petton is now open to Johnny Manziel making some more starts because it is a clown show.

[Jason Moore]

We have.

[Mike Wright]

It is a clown. We need a clown music button.

[Andy Holloway]

We certainly do.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, we got to get that. There's too many opportunities on the course of a John Fox related year.

[Jason Moore]

So we talk about the Browns every.

[Mike Wright]

Week and I think Jason and I actually disagree on this. My opinion, you put Manziel in, you start him the rest of the year no matter what. Unless he gets hurt and he can't play. Of course Then you can't, you can't.

[Jason Moore]

Play him no matter what. Hey, he's on the stretcher. Put him back out there.

[Mike Wright]

You just, you put him out. You. It's, it's kind of like the, in Denver with Tim Tebow, you know, where the crowd just demanded Tebow and there's nothing you can do. It kind of backfired for Denver because he started winning, but there's nothing the, the, the mob wants to see Johnny Manziel. Let them see what he can do. Either he. You're like, oh, we don't need a quarterback because Manziel magically can do it, or he falls on his face like the majority of people are expecting and then you can move on. It's not going to happen again next year.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Jon Gruden is at the very front of that mobile with his pitchfork saying, put Johnny Menzel in, dude.

[Mike Wright]

Gruden was great on Monday night. This is not something we usually talk about, the announcing, but he was just killing people and rightfully so. He was actually calling people out. It was fantastic.

[Andy Holloway]

So let me ask you something that crossed my mind yesterday. Now Tim Tebow is in the news. I'm not going to get into it. It was ridiculous Facebook rumor ville type of stupid. But what happened is one of the like thumbnail pictures is him in the Eagles jersey. And I started thinking about the Eagles season and quarterback play and I started to wonder like, would they have been a better offense? Okay, you got a better fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

But they might have won more games.

[Mike Wright]

No way.

[Andy Holloway]

I still want to believe.

[Mike Wright]

All right, the Tebow magic.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, you know what? There are immeasurable statistics that exist in the out there where he can motivate his team a little bit. He's not the best quarterback, but he won. What did you just say about Denver? Yeah, he beat the Steelers in the playoffs. I give credit where credit is due. And speaking of credit, let's thank Audible for sponsoring today's podcast. You heard me talk about at the very beginning of the show, Audible is offering our listeners, the Foot clan, a free 30 day trial membership. You go to audible.comballers you can browse over 180,000 audio programs. You can download a title free, free and start listening. It's that easy. You go to audible.comballers that's audible.comballers to get started today. Like I said, They've got over 180,000 programs from audiobooks to magazines, newspaper publications, things like that. And you know, mixed. Different people have different thoughts about Matthew Berry. We certainly Respect Matthew Berry. His book is Great Fantasy Life. If you just want to hear some great tales about leagues and formations of leagues and the history of fantasy football that's available on Audible. I've listened to it. We've all been Audible subscribers and it really, you know, as much as you might hope, we can't record this show 24 hours a day. You've got a lot of commute time, work time. Audible is great. So head over there, go to audible.com ballers get your free 30 day trial membership.

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[Andy Holloway]

Today I will trade you my Austin Davis for your J.J. watt.

[Jason Moore]

Done.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get into the matchups.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy, foreign.

[Andy Holloway]

I have. I'll just tell the audience that we have our. We print the weekly matchups out as a separate piece of paper so we can just reference which games and people are playing. Jason was missing his paper today and apparently I took his matchup paper.

[Jason Moore]

How do you know that you took mine?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I only know that because at the bottom you wrote a little note to us during the show. We recorded our Wednesday show after lunch on Tuesday. Later on Tuesday. And he wrote Chipotle Killing Brain because he had just eaten and so he was a lot of metabolizing. Yeah, you were. You don't do good with food.

[Jason Moore]

I do great with food.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess a matter of perspective. All right, packers, they head to Detroit to take on the red hot Lions.

[Jason Moore]

That's crazy revenge game. Hey, do we have a water bet with that guy out there?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, with Foot Clan Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, betting on the packers has proved not good for this podcast. I want some matchup to come that seems perfectly impossible and let us bet on the packers and see what happens. Packers, Browns or like packers, you know, at home against the Lions.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So this game is. This game's in Detroit. Stafford's coming off a five touchdown game. What do we think of Stafford rest of the season? Because he. Someone wrote in they had. They were asking for some great playoff matchups. Staffords was in. Stafford was in that streamer list for me because he's got San Francisco in week 16. He's got a really good matchup in week 15. I think it's New Orleans. Yeah. So Stafford looks like maybe somebody to ride a little bit.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's not bad. When was. Let's refresh memories, especially mine over here. When did Jim Bob Cooter take over? Was that after the bye week? Was it so the last three weeks.

[Jason Moore]

I believe it was. It was during the buy.

[Mike Wright]

So in the last three weeks they played Green Bay, Oakland and Philadelphia. He's only thrown one pick in that time, Matt Stafford. So he's playing a lot better. He had the game against Oakland where it was.

[Jason Moore]

It was.

[Mike Wright]

That was a really strange game where both Stafford and Carr were not bad, but they just struggled and they couldn't get anything really done for fantasy. But aside from that, I mean he. Two touchdowns against Green Bay last or in Week 10 and 5 against Philadelphia on that Thanksgiving massacre of the Eagles. So I think things are trending in the right direction for Matt Stafford. Maybe we got. We got some better play calling happening. You can see the ground game has improved tremendously because there was literally no ground game at all to start the year.

[Andy Holloway]

That probably helps.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely. It helps. I mean when you have.

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody's like cracking up when they try to play action pass.

[Mike Wright]

And that's the technique.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what used to happen.

[Mike Wright]

You see if you can make them laugh long enough for a receiver to break open and like Abdullah actually had a decent game on the ground last week.

[Andy Holloway]

So did Joyk.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And well Joyce. Joyce game was really through the air is when he got it done on those two huge passes. So I think all Those things combined equal to Matt Stafford being a solid play moving forward and I would even play him tonight.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's what I was going to ask you. And the packers defense has started. It started quickly, it started well and now it's not been great. The run defense, 23rd, the past defense 18th. One thing that's interesting though is on the other side of the ball, the Lions give up the most multi touchdown games to running backs. Lacey's trending up.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a must start situation for him, right?

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

I think you do start Lacey, but I don't buy into the defense of the Lions being that sieve that they were early in the year. Since that bye week we have seen a different Lions and I think three games in a row is enough to say they've at least stepped up. They haven't phoned it in in the last three games. They've given up one total touchdown to the running backs on the ground. So I do think Eddie Lacy is a fine start. He is, he's back. He is a late game bloomer, a late season bloomer. I mean he took over late last year and I expect that he's going to do it again this year. I think he's fine to start but I don't, I don't see the Lions as what they were certainly giving up. You know, two touchdowns, three touchdowns. Two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Who was the touchdown to?

[Jason Moore]

That was to Oakland. So I believe that was Latavius Murray.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the things that has helped them obviously has been an improving pass defense and that concerns Rogers owners. You know, you've had the Lions playing well. They're at home, they're on a roll.

[Mike Wright]

Darius Slay has. He's shutting people down.

[Jason Moore]

He is good. Now who's he going to be on? Probably whoever's.

[Mike Wright]

That's, that's a great question. I don't know if he shadows into the slot.

[Andy Holloway]

So is the upside of Rogers gone?

[Mike Wright]

No, no.

[Andy Holloway]

He can still go out and throw a five touchdown game.

[Jason Moore]

I would have. No, absolutely 100%. He could go out this week against Darius Slate and throw five touchdowns. I believe. I don't, I don't hesitate for a second.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of people ask him whether Cobb is worthy of starting this week and I've been telling people most often no compared to what they've shown me on their team. I mean we can look at the rankings a little bit about what we have him at this week. We have him at 20 as a consensus ranking. That puts him in the 2 category right around the, you know, Cobb or Amari Cooper.

[Mike Wright]

Man, Cooper's got a tougher matchup. But I would probably go with Cooper.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. LaFell Watkins, that range.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's fine. I would start Cobb over those guys, huh?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think Cobb is a, is an okay start. I mean you're not getting a wide receiver one, but as a wide receiver two. He has been getting enough receptions and targets. He's, he's been getting five or six receptions a game. He just hasn't been in the end zone lately and he hasn't broken one long.

[Andy Holloway]

But is it 10 straight games? You got one double digit game in 10 games? Something like that. That's what the problem. I want him to show me something before I put him in the lineup anymore. That's kind of my mentality. But I think his name, his name is getting them starts more than his performance.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's, that's understandable.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we need to move on Texans at the Bills. Let's talk about this. This game here, the Bills are favored. They're at home. You got Tyrod Taylor, the ever banged up Tyrod Taylor and Brian Hoyer and the red hot Texans. So what, what are the fantasy things to look for from the quarterback position in this game? Are either of these guys start worthy?

[Jason Moore]

No, I think Hoyer is stream worthy. I do. I wouldn't be afraid. I think there's better options than him. But I wouldn't start Taylor against the Houston defense. That looks amazing. The Bills, they have not been that great a defense this year and I think that the Texans can come out and win this game and they could do it on the arm of Hoyer.

[Mike Wright]

So yeah, he's not a terrible player but there's just so many great streamers available this week. I can't imagine that Hoyer is the only one left on your wire. We've gone through all those guys like Cutler, Tannehill, two quarterback leagues.

[Jason Moore]

I think Hoyer's Wells.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, sure. Two, two quarterback league.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to, he's going to be.

[Jason Moore]

One of those guys that are the questions where it's like hey, I might have somebody that I think is better, but I think you could throw on the Bills.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Carlos Williams is still reportedly doubtful for this game.

[Mike Wright]

Right. And I would say from the Bills, I've, I talked about Watkins as my sit of the week. Now that once again does a sit of the week mean that they're just going to do absolutely nothing? No, I just think that he will be held in check as compared to what he did especially Compared to what he did last week, really, the only Bills player I have confidence starting is Lashawn McCoy. He still looks spectacular. With Carlos Williams being banged up, That's. That's great news for McCoy. No. Carlos Williams vulturing a touchdown. You. So Shady's getting it done through the air and on the ground. He's getting the yards. The problem was can he get the touchdown to put him over the top to be a monster game. And Carlos Williams was a great obstacle in the way of McCoy doing that. But we saw last week that he got to score on that nice dump off pass. So McCoy is. Even though the Texans are great on defense right now, I still play McCoy. I want to get confidence.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to give a little credence to your. Sammy Watkins held in checkpoint the last three weeks for Houston. 197 yards through the air, zero touchdowns against Cincinnati. 216 yards, one touchdown in week 11, 228 and zero against New Orleans. This is a passing defense that ranks number three in the league now. And they've obviously been winning games mostly from the defensive side. And so I don't. I'm with you. I think Watkins is somebody you start if you have to start him, but you. You're counting on one big play to somehow. And he can do it because that's what great players do. But we're saying temper the expectation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And I think Tyrod Taylor is going to be just undersea murdered.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he's going to be. He's going to be hit a lot this game. So he's a guy I would steer way clear of person.

[Mike Wright]

Did you guys see the. The J.J. watt trash talk quote that was coming out of the.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

So J.J. watt in the game was telling the Saints. He's like, you guys better find a new right tackle. He's like, I like Drew Brees. I don't like hitting him like this.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's funny.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, that's. That was not a good game for Mr. Brees. All right, so the Ravens. The Ravens head to Miami to play the Dolphins in the game of the week.

[Mike Wright]

This one is very interesting.

[Jason Moore]

This is. This is my game of the week that I am excited to see. I actually messaged Mike yesterday and said that this is the game I'm the most interested to watch.

[Andy Holloway]

You are a Lamar Miller owner.

[Jason Moore]

That is 100% the reason. I am very curious. Mike and I are on different sides. Mike has a gut feeling that Lamar Miller is bad news city for Lamar Miller right now with Ajayi coming in Free agency, free agency looming, all of that. I have the almost the exact opposite feel of Dan Campbell really wants to run the ball, likes Lamar Miller. They were putting Ajayi in the red zone and not scoring, and so they fire the oc And I think that he wants it to be the Lamar Miller show. So I don't know. I mean, really, these are gut feelings, which we really like to base our stuff on film and on stats here, but you have to go with gut, too. This is why I'm interested to watch this game, because what happens in this game, I think very much will determine the playoffs. What does it look like for Lamar Miller or Ajayi? We're going to see a glimpse of that this week.

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm personally excited to see Devontae Parker get some snaps starting in this game for the first time. What does the offense look like? Like you said, this is more of a fantasy curiosity game than it is, you know, a great NFL matchup. But, you know, the Shop Aiken combo isn't exactly something I get worked up about.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Aching for it?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean, I've Aching on my bench. I'll probably never play him this year because, I mean, it's just hard to do. He's had three. Okay. Weeks.

[Mike Wright]

You know, it's never on my bench. Bacon.

[Andy Holloway]

It's always. It's never starting lineup.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that so? Breakfast food, starting lineup.

[Mike Wright]

Bacon.

[Jason Moore]

Bacon's gotta be first. Unless cereal can be. Nah, I'm still going bacon.

[Mike Wright]

I would put bacon in my cereal.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask you this. Would you just eat bacon for a breakfast?

[Jason Moore]

Hundred thousand percent, Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like bacon is great and should be eaten in mass quantity, but it's still part of a complementarian mindset.

[Jason Moore]

To breakfast, you know, until you've done it, you don't know. And I have absolutely done it. I've had a breakfast of bacon.

[Mike Wright]

I lived the life. I talked, I walked the walk.

[Jason Moore]

And let me tell you, there's no regrets, okay? Not until I get my first heart attack will I stop eating bacon. You know, until you've done it.

[Andy Holloway]

You watch your mouth, son.

[Jason Moore]

I love the Dolphins.

[Andy Holloway]

Until you lived in my greasy shoes.

[Jason Moore]

I love the Dolphins defense as a. As a fantasy play this week. High upside. Yeah. I mean, what is the likelihood that they have a pick six for a touchdown in this game? You got to put 50, 50.

[Mike Wright]

You got to put it 50, 50. And so Buck Allen, for the people who they picked him up, he's a full start for me this week. Miami's rush defense has Been hemorrhaging as of late and he just. I think he's a very strong play.

[Andy Holloway]

And to that point, the Ravens. I know we complained a little bit, you did in the beginning of the year about Tressman not really involving the running back in the passing game enough to your satisfaction as an owner. You probably wanted about every play. But the Ravens are still one of the highest in the league with 28% of passes to the running back position. We saw that last week with Buck Allen getting some more of those dump off passes. He's a quantity. I mean, I think his talent is there too. He's a young guy, but he's getting enough work to where he should be a viable start.

[Jason Moore]

You lose your starting quarterback, your starting running back and your star wide receiver. And the offensive coordinator, Trustman coming in is not going to just stick with the same system that wasn't his. He's going to say I've got to manufacture offense and it's going to go. That's why I love Buck Allen here. I think Buck Allen has a baseline of four receptions a game and he could go higher than that.

[Andy Holloway]

You've seen him manufacture that too. With the tight end position with Crockett Gilmore with use check out of the backfield with different mixing pieces and things like that. The offense has. Has limited upside. Like you said, there's a reason why you kind of like streaming the Dolphins this week. I'm okay with that. I'm not all about it because I just. I don't know the Dolphins just. Who knows how much they've given up, how much this season is in trouble, what the offense does. Tannehill can give points back, which counts against your defense, which is a problem. But yeah, I like the idea of Buck Allen. Now put this in context. Buck Allen, David Johnson, Thomas Rawls, three of the big free agent signings over the last week, few weeks. So how do you like them rest of season?

[Mike Wright]

I love all those guys. Rest of season.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess. Rank them is more of the question.

[Mike Wright]

Rank them. Honestly, I'm going to put. I am. I'm not looking at matchups, so I'm just thinking of offense right now. And because of that, I'm going to put David Johnson number one. The Arizona Cardinals are the number one offense in the entire league. They score boatloads of points nearly every single week. And that David Johnson will. Is the goal line back. He was the goal line back earlier. They kind of went away from that. They were not having success. The goal line. We. If you watched the. The San Francisco Cardinals debacle Last week you saw the Cardinals get about 18 plays inside the five and they were doing all sorts of different things till they finally said screw this, David Johnson run it in. And what did David Johnson do? He ran it right in because that's what he does. So he's. He just has the highest opportunity to me to score a touchdown weekly. Second, I would go with Rawls just because he's the workhorse back. Fred Jackson will get some of that action catching the ball. Buck Allen is lowest because the offense is a lower powered offense. We're still not exactly sure what the split will be with Terrance west who surprised he didn't have a ton of snaps. But when they snapped the ball with Terrence west in there, he ran it. That's his ratio of snap to getting a touch was very high. And was that just revenge game against Cleveland? We're not sure. So they're kind of a situation I need to monitor. I'm not going to let that dissuade me from playing Buck Allen at all this week. But that's how I would rank those.

[Jason Moore]

Three guys and I would put Rawls first. Rawls, I mean you weren't looking into the schedules or the matchups rest of season. Rawls has a very nice, juicy playoff schedule. All three winnable matchups. You've got a. Who's a worker?

[Andy Holloway]

Do you have those three up? I'm just curious. I can't remember the three matchups.

[Jason Moore]

I can pull them up again here. They were. They were pretty good. The only bad one was the Rams, which are not that good of a run defense. People are very scared about playing a guy against the Rams D. And the truth is at the running back position, you're fine to play that. Thomas rawls goes week 14 at Baltimore. They're okay. Cleveland, that's great in week 15 and then St. Louis like I just spoke of in week 16. So I like Thomas Rawls. David Johnson's got a little bit tougher matchup the rest of the way.

[Mike Wright]

David Johnson plays Minnesota Week 14, so that's a tougher one. Philadelphia, delightful. Arizona is going to score a ton of points and then Green Bay, which you would have to put at a middle. Middle tier. So I guess it leans slightly to Rawls.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, I would go Raw.

[Andy Holloway]

Johnson I like about rawls is the 53% rushing attempts. Like that they run more than anybody else in football. So. But yeah, they're all three I love and all three could honestly outperform the other guy depending on whether they catch fire, they get goal line opportunities and.

[Jason Moore]

Rawls doesn't have anybody really cutting into his workload. We don't know yet with David Johnson, but I wouldn't be shocked if Kerwin Williams comes in or Stefan Taylor has.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, because necessarily if your Aryans handed off to the right and we.

[Jason Moore]

And we saw with Buck Allen, there.

[Mike Wright]

Are, there is risk with David Johnson. If Johnson comes out this week and fumbles, then there's troubles there. There will be trouble, absolutely if he puts the ball on the ground, but I'm going to believe that he won't. Maybe that's a little foolish because he's has a record this year of already fumbling a good bit, but he just the opportunity for points is too great.

[Andy Holloway]

With Arizona, I wanted to take a quick look at the raw snap counts from last week and it was at 65%. So not through the roof, not out insane. But certainly getting the majority. All right, we're going on. We're moving on. Bengals go to Cleveland, take on the Browns. Okay, breaking news. Not my almost upset of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I guess the questions here circle around will Ifert play and will Barnage be the same type of tight end in terms of production with a different quarterback, Davis or Manziel?

[Jason Moore]

I think he'll be better with Davis than he would be with Manziel. I'm not afraid of Barnage, which I've been the one least on him. But the way that they run their offense, watching the Browns games recently, it's just he's super involved and there's not a lot of other options. You know, you've got Travis Benjamin and Barnage as essentially the two main guys that soak up all the targets.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Dwayne Bow? Mike, He's.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, I'm telling you, Dwayne Bowe, he's just getting ready. He's getting ready.

[Jason Moore]

He's warming up.

[Mike Wright]

He's. He's gone. I've got it on good authority.

[Andy Holloway]

Hibernation.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he. No, it's kind of like hibernation. It's one of those chambers that they use in like Dragon Ball Z and they go in for the ultimate training and Dwayne Bowe is going to emerge and just.

[Andy Holloway]

Is there a pop culture vein that Mike is not aware of? I mean, does he, does he know every.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe the girl like, you know, Jim, Jim and the rock stars. Is that big for you?

[Mike Wright]

Are you truly, truly outrageous?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

He's trouble.

[Jason Moore]

He is outrageous.

[Andy Holloway]

He's trouble. All right. Hey, one thing I do know about this game is that I love A.J. green. Yeah, A.J. green had a huge week last week. He's not going to let you down this week. The Browns give up multiple touchdowns to wide receivers 72% of the time, and A.J. green is a wide receiver, a pretty good one, I bet.

[Mike Wright]

That statement had me very confused.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I should have. It was meant to. It was meant to confuse for just a moment. The Browns also, believe it or not, they're not very good against the run.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was going to say we have. I have instituted the NBA Jam methodology here of good game. Heating up on fire. Jeremy Hill is heating up. He is. He is. He is heating up to me.

[Andy Holloway]

What is this? Jeremy hill, Eddie Lacey, C.J. anderson. Disappointments abounding in the beginning of the year and now maybe so.

[Mike Wright]

Last week against the Rams, he was cold weather. He was 16 for 86. The cold weather could have something to do with it. 16 for 86. His best yard per carry game of the season. He got knocked out with an angle and ankle injury. For those who are monitoring his situation, he's not even on the injury report. He is practicing in full. So they don't.

[Jason Moore]

The.

[Mike Wright]

The Bengals don't consider it even. It's nothing. There's nothing wrong with his ankle. Hill is a guy I like. I like him. This week against the Browns, like you said, they're just a horrific running defense giving up hundreds of yards weekly. So he'll is. He'll is a guy that I don't mind. Is an RB2 this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Passing touchdowns given up by the Browns over the last three weeks is eight.

[Mike Wright]

That's. That's.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Eight passing touchdowns. Now you flip it to the other. Other direction you had. Cincinnati gave up quite a bit to Arizona, but the defense has been stout otherwise. Is Travis Benjamin startable this week? Just kind of as the.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Let me ask you this, Benjamin Aiken.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Would you rather start Travis Benjamin or Marvin Jones?

[Andy Holloway]

Marvin Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Me, too, man. It's probably Benjamin.

[Andy Holloway]

Hmm. Very interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Probably.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's go ahead and move on here. Let's talk 49ers and Bears. The Bears are favored by a touchdown at home, still in the playoff hunt and been playing pretty well. What do we think about this matchup? What is there to think about? This matchup?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there's not much.

[Andy Holloway]

And again, I'd love to have an upset here, but no.

[Mike Wright]

So I'll try and go through this one quick. You start Forte over Langford. Langford. Langford. I think the split widens a little bit. This week to Forte. Last week was his first game back coming off that injury. And it was about 50, 50. I would expect it to be closer to 60, 40. Of course Langford can score a touchdown. We know that he's very capable of doing that. But it's still Forte for me. Sean Dran, the fantasy vegetables. You got to start him. If you get any kind of points for catching the ball, you have to start Sean Drone. You just close your eyes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You got to plug your nose so that the tape, have your wife do it.

[Andy Holloway]

If you can't move them into your lineup, have somebody else come in and make the switch.

[Mike Wright]

Tight ends. Zach Miller. Okay, so here's where we can pause Zach Miller. How do we feel about him going up against the 49ers?

[Andy Holloway]

I like Zach Miller a lot. I really do. I've looked at this. I'm a Gronk owner. I've had to look at tight ends a little bit more intensely than the average folk. And Martellus Bennett is not long for the Bears.

[Jason Moore]

Stinks.

[Andy Holloway]

And John Fox is. John Fox is not a fan of Martellus Bennett's attitude. And there have been reports that last week's injury, last week's, you know, inactive. Inactive was more related to mental than it was to physical. Oh, John Fox that he's been brooding and there's a reason Zach Miller has been getting more targets and been integrated into the offense. I like Zach Miller a lot, I really do. Moving forward. I mean, he's still a second tier tight end. He's not going to dominate and win your league. But I'm total. I mean, over Bennett.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's definitely better than.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take Zach. If Bennett's active in this game, I'm starting Zach Miller over him.

[Jason Moore]

Over him and probably over no other wide receiver on the waiver. I mean, right. You tight tight end? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

No other. What do you mean?

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying I would see Zach Miller is Probably what, the 15th tight end or so? Definitely better than Martellus Bennett. But we're not talking about him being like a top eight guy, are we? No, I expect this game to be lower scoring. You know, John Fox is going to see the 49ers offense that can't do much, slow the game down.

[Andy Holloway]

49Ers defense has kept some games lower scoring, so I agree with you. I'm trying to see where we have Zach Miller. I probably.

[Mike Wright]

I'll tell you what the 49ers defense has not done and that's kept low scoring games on the Road. We will be getting into that a little bit more when I talk about Jay Cutler.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And I'm gonna. Vance McDonald's the guy that I want to talk about from this game. But I'm going to delay that for another segment. We have coming up. We are the worst hint.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Jags, Titans, I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, we got it.

[Mike Wright]

Bolden, what do you do guys have any thoughts on Bolden, who's been.

[Andy Holloway]

Zero chance I start him.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Zero chance. The Bears secondary, second in the league. The 49ers average about 200 yards a game and those things shouldn't mix in Chicago very well. So let's talk Jaguars and Titans. Bortles, Mariota, I like Mariota as a stream this week. I really do. You know, we're always, we only get to say a few names that we really like, but he's one of the guys that I really like this week. He had a good week last week. He had that rough week on Thursday night. I believe it was. He had a rough week in the last patch, but he had a big week before that. So Mariota, I really like him in this game. What are your thoughts on Mariota and Bortles? Who would you rather start between the two? I guess it's Bortles.

[Mike Wright]

I would still rather start Bortles. I know that the matchup from Mariota is, is excellent. Jacksonville last week they just gave up four, four hush downs to Felipe Rivers. So it's, it's not, it's not awful to want to stream Mariota. He's just, he's not as high in the list for me. Guys, Alan Robinson, it's a great start. So let's Tennessee, let's move to the Tennessee offense. I guess there's more questions on there. David Cobb, there's, there's the, all these reports now of the, the coaching staff from Tennessee. We want to figure out a way to get Cobb the ball more.

[Jason Moore]

Haven't they said that for like four weeks, though?

[Mike Wright]

And when you, when you make, when you say that, aren't you the one making the decisions on who's going to get the ball?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Like, what do you have to figure out? You, you hand the ball to him.

[Jason Moore]

It's not like a wide receiver. It's not a wide receiver. That's like we've got to, you know, make plays that get him more open. No, it's call for the owner, you.

[Andy Holloway]

Know, the owner of the team that's not making decisions on the field. Like the coach saying that he should just say we're Going to.

[Mike Wright]

You could from the silage. Hey, hey, Mariota, could you hand the.

[Andy Holloway]

Ball to him to the guy behind you? The guy standing behind you.

[Mike Wright]

Stupid.

[Andy Holloway]

This is not an offense I want a lot of shares in. Mariota gives you a baseline. He's been running a little bit more under the new head coach. And you know Delaney Walker I really like because nobody has more a higher percentage of passes caught by the tight end than the Titans do.

[Jason Moore]

He is your start of the week for the rest of the start of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Not my start of the week this week. But he could be.

[Jason Moore]

He was almost mine. I like him here. If you're in a standard non PPR league and you need a tougher flex, I'm okay with Andrews on the Tennessee side. Not as anything special but as a guy that's at least, you know, I don't see Cobb getting much work. I don't really love Yelden for where he's been on the Jaguars side. Who's my, you know, he was going up against San Diego which is such a great matchup last week and he did nothing. He looks like he's slowing down. So I'm not digging most of these matchups. I do love me some Alan Robinson though.

[Andy Holloway]

I have mixed feelings about Alan Robinson. The Titans are the sixth best pass defense without Hearns on the other side. I know his talent is superior and he's probably going to be force fed some targets but this game's in Tennessee. The Titans defense is okay. I temper my upside with Robinson a little bit.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And that's. I understand that. But Allen Robinson, to me he's joined, he has joined that wide receiver. One core of guys I don't care about a match.

[Andy Holloway]

You're probably right. And I should probably be moving him there myself. So we got three matchups. I want to get through real quick before we get to our starts of the week. But I want you guys to know listeners out there, the starts of the week are coming. So stay tuned for that. Seahawks, Vikings in Minnesota. This game is a pick them game by the Vegas line. And I kind of agree. I mean we were trying to guess the lines yesterday. It's kind of a game we do around the office sometimes and I think my guess was like half a point because I don't know who's going to win the game. Also Seahawks are trending up of note.

[Mike Wright]

An over under of 41 and a half which is very, very low.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

So let's talk who do we like from. From any of these things? Clearly Adrian Peterson is A start is anybody. And Rawls. Rawls is probably start. But I think you have to lower your expectations for him. The Vikings have been. They give up some yardage but they've been overall as a whole a pretty good defense this year. And people are not talking about the Vikings. Which is a very. A diversion here of interesting about the Vikings. There was so much preseason hype on the Vikings. I love them. Andy really, really liked the Vikings. He said the Vikings were going to make the playoffs. They're in line to be in the playoffs and no one's talking about the Vikings.

[Jason Moore]

It's because they're not high school.

[Andy Holloway]

They're not flashy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And they kind of come across the way that the Panthers came across last year. I know the records are a little different where you kind of thought they're a playoff team. But you don't see. You can't envision necessarily. At least I can't the. The super bowl run for a team like that. And I could be completely wrong.

[Jason Moore]

It was.

[Mike Wright]

What's funny about that is because what do we want from. From a Super bowl team? Well, I want a very good defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Check mark.

[Jason Moore]

I'll be able to run the ball.

[Mike Wright]

I want to be able to run the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Adrian Peterson and good game management quarterback Teddy Bridgewater.

[Mike Wright]

Like they are. They are what every checkbox you want from a playoff team. That's what they got. I just think it's funny that, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Did any of us think they were going to beat the Packers?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So that. That, that misconceptor or that conception of that perception of them is part of the problem. But it's a good point. And the Vikings D. I think we looked it up. Didn't have it written down here. But they've given up more than two passing touchdowns. Never the entire year.

[Mike Wright]

Quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

So that tempers your. Russell Wilson. You know he's coming off of a five touchdown game. It's not going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

No. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I bet anything on that. Anybody wants a water bet with five more touchdowns to Russell Wilson, I'll take that water bet.

[Mike Wright]

I do. See we have a little typo here under the tight end because there's a. It's Luke Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

But we.

[Mike Wright]

We misspelled it.

[Andy Holloway]

We forgot to put the extra. We forgot.

[Mike Wright]

It's Luke Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And Kyle Rudolph's been playing.

[Mike Wright]

Well.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't mind starting Kyle Rudolph. I believe The Seahawks are 30th against tight ends. Something like that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

They are susceptible that. It's just so hard because every Time. You think, okay, I got Kyle Rudolph figured out. I'm going to depend on him. He lets you down with one of his wide open end zone drops.

[Andy Holloway]

So you had his good game, then you have them heating up.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Is there any chance, you know, there is a.

[Mike Wright]

There is a chance.

[Andy Holloway]

Doug Baldwin is in that same category. He's had some good games. There's a Jimmy Graham.

[Mike Wright]

There's a good chance for both. I just don't see either of those happening.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if I had to. So you start ap, you start Rawls. I think you, you know, you don't expect huge games from either guys after that. It's really Rudolph and that you can start and maybe Baldwin and then I.

[Mike Wright]

Think Baldwin like a wide receiver. Three.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's.

[Mike Wright]

I'm good with that.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I don't want anybody else. What about Stefan Diggs?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Stefan Diggs. You, you burned Brian.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm benching him for a while.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And against the Seahawks, it's not the right matchup to guess that he's going to break something loose, so.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. All right, let's do one more here. And we're going to push Cardinals Rams to tomorrow. The jets go to New York where they're from and take on the Giants long road trip. Yes. They whole field advantage. Do they, do they take all the jets and spin them three times with their eyes closed and when they open it up like all the Giants signage is up in the stadium, they're like, whoa, you're in a different place now.

[Mike Wright]

They like when, like when you're a kid, when you pretend like you're going through a time portal or something. Right. So they just add a bunch of flashing lights and fog into their, into the tunnel. Like, ooh, you've transported to a magical world.

[Andy Holloway]

You put them on the bus and you take them around a few times. You come back to the stadium. All right, so this is really the focus of our analysis here is they're going on the road to New York. All right, Fitzpatrick, Fitzmagic facing off against Eli Manning. We like Fitzpatrick as a streamer this week. And what's not to like? The Giants give up 250 plus to the quarterback in 80% of their games. And he's coming off a four touchdown game. Marshall and Decker the experience. The Marshall Decker experience is nice right now for fantasy owners. So how high do you have, Mr. Ryan Fitzpatrick this week?

[Jason Moore]

I have him. I have him very high. I mean, he's coming off a four touchdown game. I know I probably have him too high. We do our stats and then we look. But he's been getting some yards on the ground. I expect him to be able to throw a couple of touchdowns against the New York Giants and plenty of yards. I think I've got him top five this week. So as a top five quarterback, you know, a little spoiler alert. He's my start of the week. He was my stream of the week. I'm confident with him. I don't see a situation where you know Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker get shut out by the Giants D. So the touchdowns are going to be there and I think his baseline is safe and his ceiling, you know, against D can be very high.

[Mike Wright]

I have no problem with you having Fitzpatrick as the top five quarterback. Fluctuation happens and Fitzpatrick is a guy who's shown all season that is getting it done. The I have that, that slight concern of when is winter Fitzpatrick going to show up.

[Jason Moore]

I've had the same thoughts.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you notice he trimmed his beard? That seems like a counter winter move.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's very unsampson like of him.

[Andy Holloway]

However he trimmed it and threw four tusks.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I mean. His power grew.

[Andy Holloway]

He's the opposite.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Shave your body, go full Gattaca and.

[Mike Wright]

You have to scrub everything off.

[Andy Holloway]

Eight to 10 touchdowns a game if you, if you can do that.

[Mike Wright]

I like him. Let's talk Eli Manning. How comfortable are you starting Eli?

[Andy Holloway]

The jets secondary is super comfortable.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. So the jets deep secondary was not what they were at the early to start the year. Darrell Slash Darren Reavis is expected to be out like we said. So if you watched the game last week of Eli Manning where he ended up with an okay game, it started off horrifically. It started horrifically because of wide receiver caused interceptions. We really got to figure out that stat of attributing a pick to a quarterback when it is completely the wide receivers fault. Just saying. I would like that like a full.

[Andy Holloway]

Like a drop interception or a tip.

[Mike Wright]

Pass interception where it hits a guy right in the hands, right. He bobbles it straight up and it turns into a pitch.

[Jason Moore]

Like that Cam Newton pick earlier where he threw a completion and when the guy went to tackle it, he ripped the ball out of his hands. It was an interception.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not a true reflection on the quarterback. And that's why stats can't be relied on for every single thing. And you make a good point. Both those interceptions were ridiculous. They were Manning's fault but he didn't play well to boot. I mean the defense for Washington Kind of had him on the ropes. Other guys to talk about in this game. I don't think anybody at this point is relying upon the rushing game of the Giants to win their fantasy playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

If they are in the fantasy playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Hip a four sided coin and then throw the coin away. Chris Ivory, though, I've seen mixed opinions about him because the matchups great. I mean, the Giants are not good against the run. Ivory had a good game last week. He got it going on the ground again. But he's, he's tough because he's not always out there. Bilal pals out there. A lot of the, you know, nobody, you know, passes more touchdowns to the wide receiver than the jets seem to do. So is this a game where if Ivory scores, he's good for you? If he doesn't, he's not.

[Jason Moore]

No. I think he's got a decent baseline here. I don't expect this game to get away from the jets too badly. I mean, it could happen. But I think he's going to be all right. I've got him as a running back one and I wouldn't be afraid of starting him. He's had some bad games and he's had some great games, but this is one where I think if he doesn't get in the end zone, he's going to end up having, you know, 65 yards and not put a one or two fantasy point total on your, on your team.

[Mike Wright]

He's, he's a running back too.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right, well, let's go ahead and move on now. Get out of the matches. We'll finish the rest of them tomorrow and talk about who we really like in week number 13.

[Jason Moore]

Starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, Mike, you're starting with Austin Davis, is that correct?

[Mike Wright]

Correct. Austin Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

My start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Quick. Correct that before somebody like before their podcast ends. All right, so Mike, let's, let's start with you though. Let's start at the quarterback position. Who is your start of the week? I've seen this name on your own fantasy roster.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going, yeah, it's so to start the week. So full disclosure, I was Ryan Tannehill was my stream of the week. Absolutely. Still believe in Ryan Tannehill? I think he's a great option this week. I just wouldn't. When I broke down all the matchups, I saw Jay Cutler available on the wire and he is my start of the week. For this reason, we think the San Francisco defense, you know, we saw him last week at home. Hold the Arizona Cardinals Kind of in check because the San Francisco defense, they give up about 16 points at home on the road. They give up 35 points.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

To opposing offenses. And the Bears, I think will have no problem getting, getting a solid amount of points. And I. If you need a ceiling, Jay Cutler, it depends on if the touchdowns go to the running back. But there's going to be points scored for the Bears. I expect at least three touchdowns for Chicago with a great chance that they end up going to Cutler. Alshon Jeffrey is finally healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And that is a completely different passing offense with Alshon Jeffrey. So I love Jay Cutler this week.

[Jason Moore]

And I love Alshon Jeffrey this week. I'll say mine really quick because I just talked about him. Ryan Fitzpatrick is mine. You know, we try to pick guys here that are. Even though it's the start of the week that are, you know, not owned everywhere that you could grab off the waivers or you've already got him, you know, sitting on your bench and you're hesitant. Ryan Fitzpatrick should be safe this week. I think he's got, you know, a baseline of over 200 yards and two touchdowns. I'm not afraid of him. So. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I went with my stream of the week as well. Fitzpatrick was yours. I went with Alex Smith again as the start of the week. I like his potential here. The Raiders are 24th against the pass. Alex Smith had a big week and we've talked, you know, if you go back and you listen to the show on Tuesday, you heard why Alex Smith is running with more intentional drawn up run play. So he's giving you a baseline there and I just think that he has a lot of upside this week and it should be pretty safe for you. So at the running back position, I'm going to start this off. I went with Gio Bernard. Giovanni, I think the matchup, big play potential against Cleveland, they've given up 130 plus yards to the running back position in 60% of their games. I think he's an RB2 very safely with RB1. Upside. I know Jeremy Hill is ascending. I know the potential for Jeremy Hill is there if they get way ahead and they just start running out the clock. But I'm going to count on a big play from Gio Bernard and he's played so well all year long. I don't want to forget him and I think he's a worthy start this week.

[Mike Wright]

Not bad. And I am going with it was it was hotly debated over our chat system last night. I'm going with C.J. anderson of the Broncos. He is healthy. He's got boys under center. Do you guys know that?

[Andy Holloway]

Bo, that's not a great initial. That stinks. Oh, Brock Osweiler, thank you.

[Mike Wright]

So Osweiler's under center. We have seen that the, the offense, this is a completely different offense than they were running the first three quarters of the season. The last two games, Brock Osweiler is literally under center taking the snaps. It has improved the running game for Both Ronnie Hillman, C.J. anderson. And the matchup is with the San Diego Chargers, who give up 100 yards essentially every single week. Let me pull up the exact amount here. As we are, as we are discussing.

[Andy Holloway]

You made good points last night. And when we looked at the breakdowns between CJ Anderson start and finish in terms of yards per carry, it's been almost like two different players. The one point that I would make against C.J. anderson was the fact that, you know, Hillman had 72 carries in the last five games and C.J. anderson had 50. But, but he's been playing great. Seven point something a carry last game with the 48 yard touchdown to end the game.

[Mike Wright]

And, and my problem with that is last five games, Brock Oswald has only started two games and the offense is completely different. And like I was saying, so eight times on the year, the Chargers have given up over 100 yards to the running back. It's just a delicious matchup. And I do think that C.J. anderson is back.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Jason, who's your running back start of the week?

[Jason Moore]

My running back start of the week is David. Oh my gosh. I almost didn't even. I didn't sing it. No, I stopped. All right, my, my running back start of the week is David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

He can't.

[Jason Moore]

I can't, I can't not finish that up. But here's the thing. David Johnson, a lot of people just went out, they spent a lot of money, they grabbed him, they now they've got him on their team and they don't know what to do. Do I start him? Do I not? We don't know. Well, let me tell you, start him. And here's why. The Rams, the vaunted, awesome Rams defense last week, they gave up 106 yards. The week before, 96, almost 100 the week before. 129. The week before 120. What? They're giving up 100 yards every week to the running back. So now I'm not saying that David Johnson is going to go for 100, but he has six touchdowns on the year as the third string running back. Now You've got Chris Johnson out of the way, Andre Ellington out of the way. A high power offense. David Johnson could finish as the number one running back this week. I'm not saying he will, but he is a guy that should be.

[Andy Holloway]

I see a parallel between David Johnson and Carlos Williams. I mean, if Carlos Williams was the guy behind in Buffalo, can catch some passes, has a nose for the end zone. Very similar situation to me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So if you got him, start him.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I'm going to go with Martavis Bryant as my wide receiver start of the week. And I love it at home against Indianapolis when Indy travels, they give it up and they give it up to the wide receiver. Huge games yardage wise to the wide receiver when they've gone on the road and you know, Martavius Bryant, you can't hold him down. You really can't. I expect big plays from him. So I feel extremely confident starting Martavis Bryant. I feel like because of his name and because of the fact he's probably started in a lot of leagues. I want to give you some context for that pick. I'm going to start Martavis Bryant over Larry Fitzgerald. If I had to face those two this week, I'm going to start him over Allen Robinson. I'm going to start him over Jarvis Landry. I'm going to start him over Mike Evans. Okay. So I want some context there because those are the decisions you're actually making. I like him a lot. I have him, you know, around the 8 to 10 range with big upside. If he can get a couple touchdowns, you know, if he can just grab a couple.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, that's what he does.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Mike, who you got? Yours is bold, man.

[Mike Wright]

Mine is a bit bold. I'm on a little bit of a ledge here. I'm going with Devonte Parker. Rashad Matthews is going to be out with those ribs. Parker got 10 targets last week. Now, a lot of that was ketchup, slash, garbage, whatever you want to call it, because of the mustard.

[Andy Holloway]

Relish.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you're right. That relish is garbage. So thank you for.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no, I'm pointing that out. Ketchup.

[Mike Wright]

And so because of the game flow. I understand that, but he's going to get a chance. He was a highly, highly touted rookie coming out into the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

You haven't met that two, three. You haven't. Right. In that two, three range.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty high for a guy. I mean, that's. That's bold.

[Mike Wright]

And I understand that he is not proven, but the Baltimore pass defense, we saw it Again, with Travis Benjamin last week, it just. Big plays happen against the Baltimore Ravens and they happen weekly. I look for Parker to be that guy who can stretch the field. Landry is the. Is a perfect underneath guy. Landry is not a big play down the field guy. That's going to be up to Parker. So I just. I have confidence that at least one is going to happen this week.

[Jason Moore]

I love it. That is bold. But I really like it. I'm so excited for the Dolphins game this week. For me, My. My start of the week is coming off of an injury, so people might be a little bit hesitant. But it's Danny Amendola. He is, to me, a borderline wide receiver. 1.

[Mike Wright]

What are you chuckling about?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. I feel like it was like a poem. He was starting. He is to me.

[Jason Moore]

Danny Amendola. I've got him ranked 14. So here's. Here's to me. A swollen knee in the four games without Dion Lewis. Here's the receptions, not the targets, the receptions. 7, 8, 9, 10.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, that's pretty good ascension.

[Andy Holloway]

But Jason. My league gives negative points for receptions.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, well, then don't start. Danny Amendola. But Jason, aren't they facing the Eagles and they've got a good pass defense?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

No, they don't.

[Mike Wright]

I think even the public opinion understands that the Eagles are not a good defense.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the first half of the year, they were so good. Here's what they've done the last four. Four weeks. The last four weeks just to wide receivers, okay?

[Andy Holloway]

This is 3200 yards.

[Jason Moore]

In the last four weeks, they have given up 11 touchdowns to wide receivers only. What, they're giving up four, three, three. Every week. And now Tom Brady's there. He's going to be throwing touchdowns. He doesn't have Gronkopotamus. You are going to see Danny Amendola and I even think Brandon lefell get in the end zone, score and have great weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. All right, we're going on to the tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, let's finish this.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, tight end. Start of the week. E I E I O. Vance McDonald's farm. All right, listen up. You want to come over to Vance McDonald's farm? Here's what you're going to get.

[Mike Wright]

It's sustainable.

[Andy Holloway]

It is sustainable.

[Mike Wright]

It's earth friendly and sustainable.

[Andy Holloway]

It is sustainable. Listen, I have racked my brain all week to replace Gronkowski and I. I'm hating that I have to do that. It stinks. In my league, I had choices of Kyle Rudolph, okay? You know, you got Your Zach Miller. Who else do we have? Luke Wilson as an option. Scott chandler. Listen, Vance McDonald has a unique situation. He's not an otherworldly talent, but he's very athletic. Two weeks ago, 465 and a touchdown. Last week, 671 and a touchdown. Well, what changed? Why is Vance McDonald on the map? Couple different things. One, Vernon Davis gone. Trade it away. So Vance McDonald moves up the charts. Blaine Gabbard comes in and starts throwing to the tight end. Blaine Gabbard's throwing four touchdowns as a quarterback. All of them have gone to the tight end position. Two to Vance McDonald, two to Garrett Selleck. Garrett Selleck is out now, so Vance McDonald has the ability to come in to that situation and have a baseline of catches. I don't. I'm not guaranteeing touchdowns from him every week, but if I can get 5 or 6, 7 with a potential for the touchdown, like Mike said in the beginning, the 49ers are not going to get shut out. Okay? They're probably not going to get shut out by the Bears. I'm hoping it goes to Vance McDonald. I'm starting him this week. I'm going to put him out there.

[Jason Moore]

I'm hoping you're wrong because you are playing him against me. I am not as confident as you are. However, that being said, you are the one who has personally done so much research on tight ends because you have a horse in the race and you're on him, and you normally get those things right. So I got no problem with that. My tight end start of the week is Julius Thomas. Julia, I see what you did. No, I'm kidding. Even though he was my. My start in. My tight end start of the week is going to be Antonio Gates. But Jason, he's one of the best tight ends in the league. Why are you picking Antonio Gates? Isn't that obvious?

[Mike Wright]

I don't like the voice of Papa competing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's delightful.

[Jason Moore]

Antonio Gates goes up against Denver. Everybody knows Denver is the best defense in the league. They shut the world down, but you want to know what they really shut down? They shut down the wide receiver position. San Diego is coming in, and San Diego throws a higher percentage than almost any team in the league. So they're going to be throwing the ball, but they're not going to be able to throw the ball to the wide receiver because the DBs that Denver has are just too good. So it's got to go Antonio Gates way. And so I'm going to go underneath a little bit more yeah, it's going to have to go to that position. Exactly. So I think you're fine starting.

[Andy Holloway]

So this is a confidence boost start. This is saying, hey, just roll him out there. You'll be all right.

[Jason Moore]

You'll be all right. He might not have the biggest game ever, but he's going to be fine.

[Andy Holloway]

He probably won't have the biggest game ever.

[Jason Moore]

True.

[Mike Wright]

And my tight end start of the week is a combo with Jason of Julius Thomas. It's Alan Hearns is out. There is a void in the Jacksonville offense that needs to be filled. And we saw that Julius Thomas, he is capable of doing it. Nine catches, 116 yards. Tennessee is not that great against the tight end. What's funny about that game is Jacksonville versus Tennessee are both horrific tight end defenses. So it could just be the battle of the tight end. Delaney Walker and Orange Julius Thomas. Or what do they call it? Brown Julius, Teal Tealious or Teal Julius, something like that. Because he's not orange anymore. He's not on the Broncos.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's too bad.

[Mike Wright]

Green Julius.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

Power. Power green Smoothie Julius.

[Andy Holloway]

Golden. Golden Julius.

[Mike Wright]

There. Yeah, that's not bad. Golden Julius. So I like, I like Thomas to step up for this matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, that does it for the starts of the week in the matchups. Thanks for hanging out with us a little longer show today, send your complaints to our complaint department at 1234 Street.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, 1234 Fake Street.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll have daily dose, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I believe so.

[Andy Holloway]

Drop some DFS knowledge on you, see if you can win some money this week and we will have the rest of our fantasy forecast and some other fun stuff to round out the week. So guys, any parting words? Any thoughts?

[Mike Wright]

Not for today. Not for today.

[Andy Holloway]

Vance McDonald's. I'm putting it out there. I'm hanging my hat on Vance eco friendly Vance McDonald. Alrighty. See ya.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the fantasy footballers podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter @the ffballers.