Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 13 Waiver Wire Pickups, Streaming Options, News

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Week 13 Summary (December 1, 2015)

Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 13 Waiver Wire Pickups, Streaming Options, News
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Marty McBride
Release Date: December 1, 2015

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1. Episode Overview

In this Week 13 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Marty McBride delve into crucial fantasy football topics, including waiver wire pickups, streaming options, and the latest news impacting fantasy leagues as the regular season nears its conclusion and playoffs loom.

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2. News and Updates

Rob Gronkowski's Injury Status

Rob Gronkowski remains a central figure in both real and fantasy football narratives. Reports from Jason Moore indicate that Gronkowski is likely to miss a couple of weeks due to a knee bruise, as per Adam Schefter’s updates. Despite being non-season-ending, his absence poses challenges for fantasy managers relying heavily on his production.

• Jason Moore [08:48]: “The MRI revealed that it's a bruise and apparently nothing's really torn. What we know is that it's not a season-ending injury...”

Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington Injuries

Chris Johnson suffered a fractured fibula, sidelining him for 6-8 weeks, while Andre Ellington is battling turf toe, raising concerns for Cardinals' backfield depth.

• Marty McBride [10:48]: “...Chris Johnson reported six to eight weeks. Probably not playing another down for the Cardinals this year.”

Martellus Bennett's Limited Impact

Martellus Bennett is practicing but hasn't contributed significantly lately. Additionally, Peyton Manning's absence continues to influence Denver Broncos' quarterback strategies as the team adapts without their veteran signal-caller.

• Jason Moore [12:34]: “...Peyton Manning isn't expected back anytime soon.”

Danny Amendola's Return

Danny Amendola is set to return in Week 13 against the Eagles, a boost for Brady owners and those utilizing Amendola in their fantasy rosters.

• Jason Moore [14:44]: “Glorious.”

Frank Gore's Performance Decline

Frank Gore remains on injured reserve for the third consecutive year due to a wrist injury, diminishing his role as a reliable handcuff for Frank Gore. Concerns rise as Frank Gore’s performance shows signs of decline.

• Andy Holloway [15:57]: “...the Colts backfield right now is not looking too good.”

Chiefs' Defense Setback

Justin Houston's sprained PCL injury severely impacts the Kansas City Chiefs' defense, eliminating a premier pass-rushing option and forcing fantasy managers to reconsider their defensive picks.

• Marty McBride [17:34]: “Justin Houston's down with a sprained PCL...”

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3. Waiver Wire Pickups

Top Pick: David Johnson

David Johnson emerges as the top waiver wire target due to his increased workload and role in the Cardinals' offense. With Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington injured, Johnson's opportunities have surged, making him a valuable asset for fantasy teams.

• Marty McBride [12:15]: “David Johnson is the number one waiver wire pickup absolutely by far this week.”

Wide Receivers to Consider

• Stevie Johnson: Consistent performance with seven receptions in three consecutive weeks, including a touchdown last week, makes Stevie a reliable low-end wide receiver option.

  • Andy Holloway [20:37]: “He is a guy that's a plug and play startable guy...”

• Donchrell Inman: In deeper leagues, Inman offers steady targets within the Chargers' pass-heavy offense, complementing Stevie Johnson effectively.

  • Jason Moore [21:03]: “He's not a bad option in my opinion.”

• Kamar Aiken vs. Stevie Johnson: While both are reliable, Stevie Johnson is preferred for his consistent baseline performance, although Kamar Aiken offers more downfield potential.

  • Jason Moore [21:26]: “I'd rather have Stevie just because it's, it's filled with quarterbacks...”

• Doug Baldwin: With Garrett Sinnett gone, Baldwin may see increased targets, making him a solid pickup for steady receiving points.

  • Andy Holloway [25:31]: “Doug Baldwin is a good pickup...”

Other Notable Mentions

• Devonte Parker: With Rashad Matthews out, Parker presents upside as a potential breakout candidate, though his reliability remains uncertain.
• Sean Drake: Despite limited production, Drake is valuable for consistent volume in a run-heavy 49ers offense.
• Theo Riddick, Amir Abdullah, Alfred Morris, Alfred Blue: These running backs offer varying degrees of upside based on team dynamics and injury statuses.

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4. Running Back Analysis

David Johnson's Rise

David Johnson has become indispensable for fantasy managers due to his dual-threat capability as a runner and receiver. His involvement in wheel routes and passing plays makes him a high-upside asset.

• Jason Moore [28:07]: “I mean, what's... Believe this is why people like the zero running back strategy...”

Waiver Wire Running Backs

• Spencer Ware: Efficient when given opportunities, especially if Char West remains injured, making him a valuable short-term addition.

• Sean Drake: Provides consistent snaps in a lone-back scenario, essential for volume accumulation.

• Alfred Morris & Alfred Blue: Both offer different advantages, with Morris providing a steady hand and Blue delivering high-volume opportunities when available.

• Jay Ajayi: Recommended as a handcuff for Lamar Miller, especially important in keeper and dynasty leagues.

• Jason Moore [34:22]: “...If you can only grab one of these guys, which one would you prefer to have on your team? The pass catcher or the...”

Injuries Impacting Running Backs

The season has seen significant injuries among top running backs, complicating fantasy strategies and heightening the importance of strategic pickups to fill gaps.

• Andy Holloway [29:51]: “...He has the most fantasy points per attempt when he touches the ball.”

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5. Tight End Insights

Scott Chandler as a Replacement

With Rob Gronkowski potentially sidelined, Scott Chandler emerges as a reliable tight end option. His involvement in the Patriots' offense provides a safety net for fantasy managers.

• Andy Holloway [37:44]: “Scott Chandler is a great option to have because he's obviously going to fill in...”

Vance McDonald and Zach Miller

Vance McDonald has shown career-high performances, making him an enticing pickup, while Zach Miller remains a viable option for users seeking additional targets in the Patriots' offense.

• Jason Moore [38:11]: “Vance McDonald takes on Chicago, which they've been pretty good.”

Other Tight End Options

• Zach Miller, Ryan Griffin, Cameron Braid: These tight ends offer varying degrees of upside based on their involvement in high-scoring games and favorable matchups.

• Jason Moore [39:43]: “I really like him. If you miss out on Scott Chandler and you can get Vance McDonald for very cheap...”

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6. Streaming Defenses

With Justin Houston injured, the Kansas City Chiefs’ defense becomes unreliable. Instead, managers are advised to consider alternative defenses based on favorable matchups and current performance metrics.

• Recommended Defenses:

  • Washington: Solid defensive performance.
  • Dallas: Benefiting from Tony Romo’s absence.
  • Chicago Bears: Strong secondary capable of shutting down high-powered offenses.

• Andy Holloway [41:07]: “...look for the team playing against the Ravens because Matt Schaub likes to throw pick sixes.”

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7. Streaming Quarterbacks

As playoff positions solidify, streaming quarterbacks based on weekly matchups becomes crucial. The hosts discuss several viable options:

• Ryan Tannehill (TEN vs. BAL): Facing a weaker Baltimore defense, Tannehill is a strong candidate for a productive week.

  • Jason Moore [44:34]: “Ryan Tannehill at home against Baltimore. I think it's a situation where Tannehill can really succeed.”

• Ryan Fitzpatrick (BUFF vs. NYG): With a susceptible New York Giants secondary, Fitzpatrick offers both passing and rushing upside.

  • Andy Holloway [46:02]: “Ryan Fitzpatrick has been solid this year...”

• Alex Smith (CHI vs. OAK): Exhibiting improved passing efficiency and mobility, Smith is poised for a high-scoring game against Oakland's defense.

  • Andy Holloway [47:51]: “His last four weeks he's run for 35 yards, 33 yards, 33 yards and 76 yards.”

• Other QB Options: Jay Cutler, Marcus Mariota, and Matt Stafford are mentioned as alternatives based on their respective matchups and current form.

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8. Community Engagement

The hosts invite listeners to join their fantasy football community for year-round discussions, strategies, and support.

• Marty McBride [50:05]: “...any parting words, Mr. Elf on the shelf? Good luck spending the rest of the day doing that sucker.”

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Conclusion

Week 13 of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast provides a comprehensive analysis of waiver wire pickups, streaming options, and essential news that can significantly influence fantasy football outcomes as the regular season wraps up. Key takeaways include prioritizing David Johnson on waivers, considering reliable streaming options for quarterbacks and defenses, and staying vigilant with tight end and running back strategies amid ongoing injuries.

For more insights and detailed strategies, visit thefantasyfootballers.com and follow them on Twitter @the_ffballers.

Transcript

[Marty McBride]

Hey, this is Martes Bryant, aka Marty McBride, and you listen to the Fantasy Footballers podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Marty McBride]

Ah, we're back. We are here. It's December.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Marty McBride]

There's a chill in the air.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow, it really is December.

[Marty McBride]

It was 70 out Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

You don't know it's December, Jason. And I was saying I know because I had to hide three stupid elves yesterday.

[Marty McBride]

You do three?

[Jason Moore]

I have three children.

[Andy Holloway]

I have three children. I hide one buddy the elf.

[Marty McBride]

I don't do this stupid thing you're talking about.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, you're lucky.

[Andy Holloway]

You got no joy.

[Marty McBride]

Are you talking about elf on the shelf?

[Jason Moore]

I am.

[Marty McBride]

What do you have to do? You have to hide them.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Marty McBride]

I don't even know how this. This game is played. Do you take a picture of them?

[Jason Moore]

No. You hide them and the children wake up and find them and they are filled with such cheer. So in the morning when you wake up, it you. It's kind of worth it.

[Marty McBride]

So they look around the house, they try to find them.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but the point of it is you. You try to set them up at least. The problem.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem.

[Jason Moore]

Internet shames you.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem is the wives.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Because the wives, they can't just hide this guy up on a. Up on a high spot. They've got to make an elaborate thing showing how mischievous these elves are. And I think my elf last night had a bag of donuts and was wearing a donut as a hat because. And he wrote a letter to the kids.

[Marty McBride]

I feel so happy that our. That my family does not do this.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Marty McBride]

Nor will it ever do this.

[Jason Moore]

The new elf, Farfanugan was introduced to the family. That's.

[Marty McBride]

That's a good name.

[Andy Holloway]

Football is that.

[Marty McBride]

Who played quarterback for the Browns last night?

[Jason Moore]

Farfanugen might as well have been Farfa Nugan.

[Marty McBride]

Sorry. I'm sorry that we teased the great Shaub McCown battle when it was really the great shob Austin Davis battle. I feel really bad to not have seen that coming. Welcome to the show. We are the fantasy footballers. And we are back yet again. It is Tuesday. It is our waiver wire episode. We're going to fill you in with all the news and notes, injury reports, all of that stuff. We got a review of source on today's show. We've got our full stream ahead. Our streaming quarterbacks. That worked mighty fine last week. Streaming Mr. Matty snapback.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes.

[Marty McBride]

Worked out good for me. And we're getting close to fantasy playoffs, so I'm sure we'll talk about that. I have a. I have a question kind of relating to playoffs and, and your opponents. So we'll go through that. If you want to follow us, we're on twitter @the ffballers. You can follow Mike @ff hitman, you can follow me at Andy Holloway, you can follow jason@jason ffl. And you can check out our website, the fantasy footballers.com. if you have a question, an urgent type of question.

[Jason Moore]

If you have elf on the shelf needs.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah. If you need some sweet ideas, you can visit Mike's Pinterest page where he's posting up. No, you should do that.

[Jason Moore]

My goal is just how high in the air can I get them into to rest?

[Marty McBride]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Like on a ceiling fan. On a ceiling light. Yeah, that's my go to move.

[Marty McBride]

Wow, that's pretty impressive. And you have three of them. You have to hide every day.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

That is correct.

[Marty McBride]

So just in just doing the math, this is up till Christmas.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Marty McBride]

So there's 75 locations you'll find. Is that accurate?

[Jason Moore]

Foot clan. My rankings may never ever come out again because I'm too busy hiding elves in my.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah, yeah. December is a tough month for Mike Burdens. All right. Hey, let's get into the quick question. I'm actually changing it up from the one that I wrote down here. What is your guys philosophy on defensive waiver wire moves for the playoffs? Because today's waiver wire day, you know, they'll probably go through in the morning. You are for many people, for most people, this next week is the final regular season week, which means playoff positioning. And also you're gonna. You kind of might see what your matchups are going to be. So what is your philosophy on signing guys to keep them away?

[Andy Holloway]

I think it is. Obviously it is case by case.

[Marty McBride]

Scott Chandler, for example.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's what I was going to bring up. I will be doing this in our league today. So Andy and I foot clan we in our league of record. I'm the number one seed right now. Just got to throw that out there.

[Marty McBride]

I know.

[Jason Moore]

Bearing on this story.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it does because if Andy beats me by more than 37 points in a head to head matchup this week, he overtakes the bye week and I fall from 1 to 3. So I need to make sure he doesn't have a big boom game. And he just lost Gronk.

[Marty McBride]

So you're saying you might lose the 1 seed to a team that started 1 and 4? Is that what you're Saying, that's what I'm saying. You don't win championships at handy 37.

[Andy Holloway]

So get that 37.

[Marty McBride]

Get that 37 points.

[Andy Holloway]

In a situation where you've got a heads up matchup that something big is going to happen, I think that it's wise to look at your opponent and go, oh, he needs a blank and there's only one blank out there. Or something like that. If that situation exists, you'd be foolish not to try to swoop in and make his team worse. But of course, you don't want to do it at the expense of your own team and drop someone very valuable for you in your playoff run. So you've just got to use discernment in there.

[Jason Moore]

And it's. It's difficult sometimes when they're. If there's many options. But this is a very specific instance where Scott Chandler, as we'll talk about, is clearly the tight end to pick up, in my opinion. So if I can, in Jason's situation, I would do the same thing. I would spend some quiche and I'd get Scott Chandler on my team. As long as I have someone I.

[Andy Holloway]

Can drop and he's out of fab.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah, there's enough horrible tight ends. I'll end up with the horrible.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

You'll have Vance McDonald and he'll put up 30.

[Jason Moore]

There's plenty of options. But when sometimes there's a very specific number one option that you should grab.

[Marty McBride]

What about defenses?

[Jason Moore]

I have currently two defenses on my roster. I hope almost every single playoffs I will have multiple defenses on my roster.

[Marty McBride]

Part prevention, part matchups.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And so I have about two. Two weeks ago I started looking at them, just kind of figuring out who I wanted to have, you know, just for matchups of 14 through 16. So I kind of got those lined up with. I had. I had added the Texans and then I had another defense that I really liked. And then a Christmas miracle happened. I should say a Thanksgiving miracle happened on the day of Thanksgiving when Andy dropped the New York Jets. For me, it was a glorious moment and I swooped them up to play against Tennessee in week 14.

[Marty McBride]

One of the things that's annoying about playing with Mike is knowing that Mike would end up with the jets even though we have 11 other people in the league. I had to drop my design, Matt Stafford, which I'm fine with. But it's unfortunate that the other people couldn't keep them away from you. So. All right. Every week we like to take a second and thank the Foot Clan for their reviews on itunes and everywhere else that you're listening to the show. They really help the show and they're, they're great to read. They're very entertaining and so we're gonna read one of them right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Reviewasaurus Rex. This one comes in from Carger 18. Number one source for everything fantasy. He or she says, I absolutely love these guys. They give carefully explained and thought out advice that is the perfect complement to my own ideas. Only discovered them a month ago and I can't wait to go through the prep and draft process with them next year. Best combination of humor and insight you'll find in the fantasy world. Thank you so much for all your great content. No, no, thank you. Carter 18. Thank you, man.

[Jason Moore]

Carter 1 through 17. Really, really snaked you.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah. Carter 18, though, very nice review. Very much appreciated. And we look forward to the draft and the prep process too. It's such a different. Like the season's great. Obviously we get to watch the games and we get to review the games and give you, you know, you got waivers and everything else. But the prep time is special too. It's, it's unique. We get our preseason rankings going, get you ready for your draft. There are a lot of Oreos to be eaten in the draft season. So Jason obviously loves that time of year and so very much appreciated. Thank you for the review. If you enjoy the show, that's a great way to support us. So let's go ahead and get into the news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Marty McBride]

It was my, you know, it's so cold out. I was a little slower to the draw there on the, on the button, on the drop. So. All right, let's talk about Rob Gronkowski. What's the latest?

[Jason Moore]

The latest I am hearing, I believe it was Adam Schefter was reporting that he's likely to miss a couple weeks. There's. Because the, the MRI revealed that it's a bruise and apparently nothing's really torn. I don't know if. Because the word strain keeps getting used, sometimes it's hard to really know exactly what is wrong with his knee. What we know is that it's not a season ending injury, which is great news for the fantasy football and real football.

[Marty McBride]

It's better news for the real Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Marty McBride]

Not the best news for fantasy owners because, okay, so maybe he misses this week. It's not playoff week. Maybe he misses the next week. I would say it's. It's probable. And if he doesn't, then what kind of limitations do you have on him? Is he going to. Basically, because if he's starting, you're not not playing Rob Gronkowski.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Marty McBride]

So you can get roped into a bad play.

[Jason Moore]

And so the Patriots are in the playoffs, but they are, I believe, one game in at the number one seed because the Bengals. Bengals have two losses. Correct. We should verify that. But I'm pretty sure the Bengals only have two losses, so they'd only be one game back, which means that the Patriots do need to win.

[Marty McBride]

Aren't the. Aren't the Broncos in that same situation?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, you're right, because they just upset them. Yeah.

[Marty McBride]

Broncos are 9 and 2 in my head. Bengals are 9 and 2. So the Patriots are 10 and 1.

[Jason Moore]

So the Patriots do need to win. It's not. They can't just say, okay, we're locked into this seed. They're going to want to have home field advantage, so they will want to win. But they also know, I'm sure, that they can't win in the playoffs and get all the way through the super bowl without Gronk. So they have to be smart with this injury and let it be healed before he goes out there if there's further risk of injury.

[Marty McBride]

So I want to put a lot of our tight end waiver wire time into kind of figuring out who Gronk owners need to sign and who would be a good selection for them. Chris Johnson, who fractured. Now see it's written in here. Fractured fibula.

[Jason Moore]

I thought it was his tibia.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah, I heard tibia as well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Marty McBride]

So injury for Chris Johnson reported six to eight weeks. Probably not playing another down for the Cardinals this year. Go ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

How's Andre. Andre Ellington's toe, how's that doing?

[Marty McBride]

He's got turf toe for Andre Ellington. I was setting you up and then you went and talked about Ellington, but.

[Andy Holloway]

We got to talk about that first.

[Jason Moore]

You got to lead up to it, my man.

[Marty McBride]

So Andre Ellington, turf toe.

[Andy Holloway]

How's is that. Can you just play on that?

[Marty McBride]

Not likely. Not Andre Ellington likely. You can play on it. It's a pain tolerance issue. It's often multi week.

[Jason Moore]

So there's one man left standing in the Arizona Cardinals back field and his name has a little tune and it goes.

[Andy Holloway]

David Johnson.

[Marty McBride]

Oh, yeah, David Johnson. His time has come somehow. Yeah, you two are enjoying yourselves very much. And you should be because David Johnson has risen the depth chart on pure skill.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, he's shown enough skill to. To merit it, and now he gets it even in an even better way because there's Nobody behind him.

[Marty McBride]

David Johnson is the number one waiver wire pickup absolutely by far this week. David Johnson will start next week for the Cardinals. He will share some time with Stefan Taylor because that's just what's going to happen. You saw some snaps for Step Van Taylor last week and they're not going to give the rookie all the snaps.

[Jason Moore]

They'll pick somebody up, too. I mean.

[Marty McBride]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Kerwin Williams will probably be back on the team.

[Marty McBride]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

In a couple hours.

[Marty McBride]

So that's the latest on Ellington and Chris Johnson. Let's talk about Martellus Bennett. He is practicing, but he hasn't really done much for owners lately. Chris Mortensen reports Peyton Manning isn't expected back anytime soon.

[Jason Moore]

So that's weird.

[Marty McBride]

He was wearing a cast for the plantar fascia.

[Jason Moore]

Fasciitis.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And we've, we've talked about this a.

[Marty McBride]

Lot of around the studio.

[Jason Moore]

What are the Broncos going to do with, I mean, you have Brock Osweiler coming off of two big wins now. He's, he's not being an elite quarterback, but what he has done is not turn the ball over. And because he's athletic and he can get that run game going. And we saw the, the last two weeks, the, the Broncos running game has been fantastic. With Hillman two weeks ago, over 100 yards. CJ Anderson this last week had a monster game. What do the Broncos do because they can't run that offense with Peyton Manning? And Peyton Manning is turning the ball over more than he's throwing touchdowns.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah. And again, it comes back to what we've said on the show before, at least my opinion on it, which is if you believe that Peyton Manning struggles were very related to his injuries, then you bring Peyton Manning back and you put him in a position to succeed when he's healthy. If they don't believe it has anything to do with all the injuries, then you're talking about a different situation. And you could see Peyton Manning, under the guise of injury, kind of not playing the rest of the season.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's injured the rest of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think that that's what's going to happen because Kubiak has his system that he loves to run that has to come under shotgun. I saw a stat this morning in.

[Marty McBride]

The mean it has to come under center.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Or yes. Correct. It has to come with the quarterback under center. In Brock Osweiler's two games under center, he has more as the starter. He has more snaps under center than all of the games Peyton Manning played. Come on. Wow. That's that's a different system and it's the Kubiak system. So cool.

[Marty McBride]

And I believe Peyton will be back and he'll be their playoff quarterback because he's Peyton Manning. And I want to go into the playoffs with the potential for upside versus kind of playing the backup quarterback role. I mean, Osweiler's done fine and maybe. Maybe that's all you need. Maybe you need Trent Delfer with that defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And that's what I think, Marcus.

[Marty McBride]

Where. I'll come back in a few weeks, so we'll see. All right. Jason Cole reports that Danny Amendola is set to return in Week 13 against the Eagles.

[Jason Moore]

Glorious.

[Marty McBride]

So that is very good news for Brady owners, certainly, and for Danny Amendola owners to see him come back. The Patriots. The Patriots are humorous to me. They cut Chris Harper yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, get out of here.

[Marty McBride]

After he muffed the punt. So goodbye, sending a message. We don't need wide receivers here. We're the Patriots.

[Jason Moore]

We're good to go.

[Andy Holloway]

Everybody's injured and they've got their rookie. They draft you, you got a bad play, get out of here.

[Marty McBride]

Honestly, I think what they said to themselves is, I'd rather start Brandon Bolden on the outside as a. As a kind of Jerry rigged wide receiver than I would Chris Harper when you make a mistake like that. Honestly, if. If Harper didn't muff that punt, they win the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely.

[Marty McBride]

Because that changed the momentum. They're up two scores. It gave him a short field. So harsh though, man, harsh. Colts Ahmad Bradshaw, season ending. Injured reserve for the third consecutive year. Wrist injury. No longer the handcuff for Mr. Frank Gore. And a report came out yesterday saying Frank Gore was beat to hell. I believe.

[Andy Holloway]

Beat to crap.

[Marty McBride]

Beat to crap. So.

[Andy Holloway]

And he looks like it. He's running slow and I think he's.

[Marty McBride]

I was gonna say give me 30 seconds on the Colts backfield.

[Andy Holloway]

The Colts backfield right now is not looking too good. The nice thing is you get the workload. They are dedicated to running the ball, especially with Hasselbeck right now, but they're not running it well because Frank Gore is beat to crap. And so he's running like that.

[Marty McBride]

How about a matchup against the number one run defense in Pittsburgh this week?

[Andy Holloway]

And so it's just. It's a bad time. I think that as the season goes on, they'll give enough rest to Frank Gore in the week, during the week, that he'll get back to health. But I don't like his matchup this week. I don't think you need to handcuff him. If you. If you did, it would be Boom.

[Jason Moore]

Boom, Boom Herron back again. I think you should. Yeah, yeah. I think you should. We saw Boom Heron have some mighty fine fantasy weeks when he told him was the main guy last year. Not necessarily because he's the best runner in the world, but he's great in the passing game.

[Marty McBride]

All right, let's get over to the Dolphins. Dan Campbell, also known as Guns Mahoney to Jason Richard Matthews fractured multiple ribs this past weekend. He's very unlikely to play this week, which means Devontae Parker is going to have another opportunity. We'll get into Devontae Parker in the waiver section, but he had 10 targets this past week, so you need to be aware of him. And then this is kind of news for the defense owners. I've been recommending the Chiefs. I have the Chiefs as my only defense right now heading into the playoffs and very confident with them. But Justin Houston's down with a sprained PCL now and is going to miss multiple weeks, which is devastating. I mean, he is the pass rush equivalent. You know, the defense defensive changer.

[Jason Moore]

He's the JJ Water.

[Marty McBride]

He's the JJ Watt and he's the leading sack. I think he's the sack leader right now or was before last week. So.

[Andy Holloway]

And was last year. He's. That's a huge blow.

[Marty McBride]

He's what change changes their secondary to be. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. A fantasy defense, especially that. You know, when you look at fantasy defenses, I think the number one thing you look for is sacks. The potential to sack because guaranteed points, it causes turnovers. It just leads to everything else. So that's what you look for and that's gone. So that's a huge blow for your team. Andy, unless I drop the Rams, which I might do, you can pick them up. They've been stinky. You're probably going to or people I'm.

[Marty McBride]

Going to have to keep my eyes open.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And stream week to week because you know you're going to have guys like. Like the Miami Dolphins who are playing against pick six city in Matt Schaub this coming week. So you just stream your different options. The waiver wire is really what you're going to need to look at. And that's my favorite segment of the week is the waiver wire that we are about to get to. But before we get to that, we want to thank Today's sponsor, Harry's. Harry's.com youm've heard us talk about Harrys.com we personally use that for razors. I know all three of us have a beard and people are like, wait, what? Yeah, we shave our neck. We're not monsters here like Mike.

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[Marty McBride]

All right, let's talk waivers this week. There are some big names out there. We'll get to David Johnson. He's kind of at the top of the list because of opportunity, the team he's on and the workload that's coming his way. But let's talk wide receivers right now. I want to start in San Diego. You saw a big bounce back game from Philip Rivers this past week, which had to encourage both Philip Rivers owners and owners of any wide receiver there. But, but the guys at the top of my list are Stevie Johnson, who for a third consecutive week had seven receptions. This time he got a touchdown, seven for 92 and a touchdown. And then I want to just speak briefly deeper leagues about Donchrell Inman. So what are your thoughts on these two guys? Stevie Johnson, rest of season is a wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Low in two. And I think it's a reliable low into like you said, three weeks in a row with seven receptions. The reason he's on here now, he's owned in most leagues, but there's still almost 30% of ESPN leagues that have him on the wire. And he is a guy that's a plug and play startable guy. You need a guy that you know isn't going to go out and score four total points. That's going to be Stevie Johnson, if he gets in the, in the end zone like he did this last week, he'll give you a good game.

[Jason Moore]

And for Inman, yeah, if you're, if it's a deeper league, sure. I think he's worth an ad. Just because the Chargers, though, they insist on running continuously with Melvin Gordon, they really get everything done through the air with Philip Rivers. And Inman's on the field a ton, just like Stevie Johnson. So he's, he's not a bad option in my opinion.

[Marty McBride]

All right, so talk to me about Stevie versus, like, Kamar Akin. Akin had a good game last night. They both are kind of reliable, not special, not elite. Would you rather have Stevie or Aiken rest of the season?

[Jason Moore]

I'd rather have Stevie just because it's, it's filled with quarterbacks versus Matt Schaub, where Kamar Akin is still a solid pickup. If, if he's around and people still haven't picked him up, which there's leagues where they haven't. But we saw last night that he's still going to get the targets. Unfortunately, they. The Ravens can't play the Browns every single week, so you won't see those wide open where there's no one within a 30 yard radius of Kamara Akin. But. But he's still going to get a ton of targets, a ton of opportunity.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And it was nice to see Shaub. You know, you don't know when a new quarterback comes in, who's he going to target? Is he going to use Betty Crockett Gilmore? Which unfortunately he didn't. The first play of the game comes out, hits him, I'm like, oh, yeah. And there you go.

[Marty McBride]

That was it.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he got two more tiny passes late in the game, but it was nice to see Kamar Aiken.

[Marty McBride]

I know. I'm visualizing that too.

[Andy Holloway]

The one thing I like more about Kamara Akin than Stevie Johnson and I do agree, I would rather have Stevie Johnson because his baseline and his quarterback, but Kamara Akin at least is used a little bit more downfield. Stevie Johnson doesn't normally get, you know, used as much, you know, on longer. We've seen seven receptions and three back to back games and with the exception of this week with 92, he's had, you know, about 10, 10 yards of catch. So the guy that I'm excited about. Can I talk about the wide receiver that I am most intrigued about on this list?

[Marty McBride]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Devonte Parker. With Rashad Matthews out and we've seen how valuable Rashad Matthews has been this year, he's been one of those guys that nobody really wants to believe in week after week after week after week because he's Rashad Matthews. And you know, he was almost traded and cut before the year, but devonte Parker is coming into this year. Some people were talking about him hand in hand with, you know, Kevin White and Amari Cooper as the best rookie coming in. He was injured, didn't get on the field much. This year has, I believe four back to back goose eggs because he wasn't used. But Shard Matthews goes down this last week. Four receptions, 80 yards and a touchdown. And you know, he's more the future. And so you want to talk about a guy that you can grab that maybe has a big potential, a potential to all of a sudden become a target that's used. And when that happens, he could break big games and score big points. That's a guy I would love to stash. Maybe.

[Marty McBride]

But how do you stash at this point? Because that would be my question about him. You're not. Unless you're in a dynasty league. Like how can you feel confident? Let's say I, from a fantasy perspective, putting devonte Parker into a playoff line.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's say I grab him right now and this week he comes out and gets six catches for 78 yards. Then the following week, after two back to back weeks with Rashad Matthews still injured, I'm absolutely fine putting him out there.

[Jason Moore]

And they have a solid line or solid matchups coming up. The Dolphins, so they got Baltimore this week, the Giants the following week, the Chargers and then the Colts in championship week 16. So they have a string of games where you can succeed if they just.

[Andy Holloway]

Put him in Rashad Matthews role. I think he outperforms what Matthews did. And he was a startable guy.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah. And I mean, but we haven't seen it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Marty McBride]

So I guess depending on your need and your risk aversion, I mean, I'd rather start Stevie Johnson, Kamara Akin, I'd rather start Doug Baldwin than devonte Parker. But I'm not saying you're wrong that he could become that. It's just so late in the season. I would have loved to see this happen three weeks ago and be the Odell Beckham and maybe he could still do that. Maybe. You know, to your point, I don't know if 6 for 78 is going to talk me into starting him, but if he came out and he caught eight balls for 165 and two touchdowns, all of a sudden you're like, okay, I'll just rush him in there because of the talent and opportunity. So it's a good point. And he's the most upside of any of these guys by far. So another guy worth mentioning, Doug Baldwin. I just said his name. Six for 145, three touchdowns. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is on roll.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Marty McBride]

There's no other way to put it. He's on fire.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we'll go. You got to go. The NBA jam rules. So he's got two. So he's heating up.

[Andy Holloway]

He's heating up.

[Marty McBride]

Does he? One more catch fire against the Vikings this week in Minnesota?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. I don't think so. I do think Doug Baldwin is a good pickup as much because Jimmy Graham is gone as the heating up of Russell Wilson. With Jimmy Graham gone, that's just more targets going elsewhere. I don't expect them to go to Luke Wilson at the same type and variety.

[Marty McBride]

Don't you mean Luke Wilson?

[Andy Holloway]

That was funny. We couldn't. So we're putting our doc together yesterday and we wanted to look up Luke Wilson's stats, and we're looking through our ESPN and we can't find it. We're like, does someone have him on a roster?

[Jason Moore]

He's in matrix and he was out of the system.

[Andy Holloway]

He's nowhere to be found. That's because apparently Luke Wilson spells his name with two Ls. Who spells Wilson with two Ls?

[Jason Moore]

Luke?

[Marty McBride]

Yeah, his parents.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Marty McBride]

His parents as well. Yeah. I didn't expect that. I had the same thing happen when I was putting some preliminary rankings together. I couldn't find him anywhere last night and eventually noticed that he was in there. So the last guy.

[Jason Moore]

The last guy I want to mention is Ty Montgomery. He from Green Bay. He's still hurt. We're not sure if he's going to play, but I believe. Well, I'm just saying that the opportunity will be there when he's back. The team has desperate like Devonta Freeman stinks. Freeman, Adams.

[Andy Holloway]

Adams. Well, you've moved past.

[Marty McBride]

Oh, wow, that's. I want to give both of those quotes where you say it and you say it and you both just put them together.

[Jason Moore]

The team has gotten to the point you even had McCarthy coming out and it's basically saying, devonte Adams, you stink. So I. If Montgomery is back, it wouldn't surprise me in the next couple games to see him overtake Adams. It's. It's a long shot for sure, but maybe you're in that situation where that's what you need.

[Marty McBride]

All right, running backs, the number one guy, David Johnson, he was 8 for 21 and a touchdown 2 for 8 through the air. One of the things I like about David Johnson is he is a bona fide pass catching running back. They, the Cardinals when they had Chris Johnson and Ellington involved, they would bring Johnson in and run him on wheel routes for touchdowns. They run him on wheel routes for important plays. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and the workload is going to be very good for them. So talk about his. How much do you blow on him right now? I mean everything. Everything.

[Jason Moore]

I mean what's. I was talking to Jason about this. It has been madness. Pure fantasy madness. The amount of running backs who are spend your entire budget on that guy where you had Char west who was. He wasn't in everything but he was spend a good amount because he has a great opportunity. Then you had D'Angelo Williams who has been great. Rawls, Rawls, Buck Allen and now David Johnson. I mean where this is. Believe this is why people like the zero running back strategy because running backs are going to get hurt. But in I'm trying to remember, I don't, I don't recall chaos like this where top level running backs were approaching. We're not talking about a guy from like the. I can't think of a team right now but a running back, backup running back where situations you're like eh, right. He'll be a running back low end.

[Marty McBride]

Like Alfred Blue this year.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that thing, that's a good example.

[Marty McBride]

Right. Because he. You would have spent a few bucks on and you wouldn't have spent your whole fab budget where David Johnson high.

[Jason Moore]

Powered offense, high powered player, spark scores, just freak athlete.

[Marty McBride]

I don't know, I don't know if it's still the case but there was a time this year where he was the fastest measured player in the NFL on a single play on his kickoff return.

[Andy Holloway]

I got trivia time for you. Oh, it's gonna be real easy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, what David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

You are correct, David. I'll just say it then. David Johnson right now of all running backs in the league has the most fantasy points per attempt. When he, when he touches the ball. When he touches the ball he has the most fantasy points per touch.

[Marty McBride]

So how responsible do you feel for the injuries to Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington? Because we've the running David Johnson refrain through the entire season. It's only, it's only appropriate, right that the kind of culmination of the entire season is now in the hands of David Johnson out of nowhere.

[Jason Moore]

It's not just us. There's, there's a lot of other experts who really like Dave.

[Marty McBride]

I'm pretty sure we're the only ones that sing about him.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's, that's not true. In the sense that when you say we're the only ones. Yes, if you're including the Foot Clan. But I get tweeted every time David Johnson touches the ball that they're singing David Johnson.

[Marty McBride]

It's just funny though. It's just funny that we're here in week 13 and David Johnson is ultra relevant again.

[Andy Holloway]

I am so happy that you guys have no fab money.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah, that would be. Well speaking of another guy to spend some fab on. Maybe it's going to depend on practice reports. But let's move on to Spencer Ware. This guy has been over ultra efficient. Last week had a huge game in limited work this past week 19 for 114 and a touchdown. I've said this before. Kansas City runs more touchdowns in than any team in football. So what do we do with Spencer Ware? Because he is a tough situation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. His. His relevance is reliance on Char West. If Char west is going to and.

[Marty McBride]

They play the Raiders this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh delicious.

[Jason Moore]

If. But if Char west is back. Unfortunately I, I think that where. Where has to have. Have earned play time when Char west is back. So you've kind of got now you have two guys where Shark Hendrick west was getting just all the volume before he went down with the hamstring. So even when he comes back I think that Ware is going to eat.

[Andy Holloway]

Into his could be like a work forte Langford situation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah exactly. So but, but where if west is out again it's which I haven't read anything positive about his hamstring as of yet. He's still a great ad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I could see him starting and getting the whole workload.

[Jason Moore]

It's a great short term.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah short term ad. But obviously if you are the west owner and Spencer waivers out there you got a bit a lot and grab him because while. Because while he's gone you've got a student.

[Marty McBride]

All right. What about Sean Drone, the only running back so for the 49ers the only running back in football this year to take every single snap from the running back position through an entire game. 15 for 51, 5 for 35 through the air pulling the Darren McFadden stat lines for the 49ers ultimate stinky fantasy track Stinky volume play.

[Jason Moore]

This is what you want though. I would if. If I'm looking for a long term solution I have Drawn ahead of where he. Just like you said, every snap. The San Francisco, they say no one else on our team is good enough to bypass.

[Marty McBride]

And honestly, he's looked okay. Like, on the game film, he's looked kind of fast.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, absolutely. I agree that he does pass an eye test. And just the volume of checkdowns from Blaine Gabbard is just so tremendous that you can't overlook it. I was able to get him. I mean, you had the chaos last week of waiver ads. And in a very competitive league, I snuck drawn for $0 onto my team, and it was fantastic, and I'm very excited for that moving forward, just like I think everyone else should be. You don't like it, you aren't going to be happy about putting him in the game.

[Marty McBride]

It's a vegetable.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly.

[Marty McBride]

He's a vegetable on your toy.

[Jason Moore]

I love it. He's a fantasy vegetable that is going to make your team healthy.

[Marty McBride]

Julio might be the steak, but you need some vegetables on your plate.

[Jason Moore]

That's my. Maybe my favorite analogy.

[Marty McBride]

And then you follow it up with some dirty cake. Jeremy Macklin. Back again, baby.

[Andy Holloway]

Gross.

[Marty McBride]

All right, I'm gonna throw out some more running back names. You guys tell me who you like, but these are some guys on the radar for the. For the. For the waiver wire. Theo Riddick. Amir Abdullah. Alfred Morris had a good game. Alfred Blue. So both Alfreds. Jay Hadjayi. I don't know why it's so comical to me that I have two Alfreds on the. On the team, but anybody there that you're really excited about? I mean, is Abdullah back on the radar? Are we back in the be. Is this the beginning of the season again? Abdullah, David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

It could be Abdullah's. He's getting the workload. I mean, 16 carries. Yeah, we are. We are very slowly warming up the express right now. The Abdullah Express.

[Marty McBride]

I got about 50 posters I need to send out once he starts playing.

[Andy Holloway]

Well again, shoveling snow out of the way in front of him.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, the Abdullah Express was in the station just covered in cobwebs and dust and spiders. And we're rolling it out. We got the gate half open here for the Abdullah Express.

[Andy Holloway]

And I mean, you want to know what numbers?

[Marty McBride]

16 for 63.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem for Abdullah is theoretic.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And the problem for theoretic is Abdullah. They just. It seems like, you know, one of.

[Marty McBride]

Them is getting all powers combined.

[Jason Moore]

If we could get the machine from the movie the fly. You guys familiar with the fly?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We put Abdullah and Riddick in the same machine and we come out with a guy that Abdullah Ramir. Then we have the. We have an ultimate running back.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you can only grab one of these guys, which one would you prefer to have on your team? The pass catcher or the.

[Marty McBride]

It's Reddick. Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Standard. It's Abdullah.

[Andy Holloway]

Of all those guys, I think honestly I would rather have Alfred Blue right now. Alfred Blue, he's not sexy. We talked about him a minute ago. He's a guy like, you know, he got when. When Aaron got injured.

[Jason Moore]

He's like, don't rush out to get him.

[Andy Holloway]

He's radish. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't provide that many vitamins.

[Marty McBride]

Not that nutritious, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

But he is clearly the guy that's being used there. He's getting volume. He gets the goal and work. So you know, to me I'm not super excited about any of those guys. But if Alfred Blue's out there, he's worth being on a team.

[Jason Moore]

And for Morris, it's just as of now, it seems like he is the starting running back. Washington again proves that they just have no idea what they're doing of spinning round and round. The Matt Jones fumbles have forced the hand of Morris to be back in.

[Marty McBride]

And be well, they're the division leader. They're going to be fighting rest of the season. That's one thing you know about Washington is they're going to be. They're going to be competing and they've got a Monday night game against the Cowboys without Tony Romo. So it's a very winnable game. One guy I should mention, if you haven't done it already, handcuff your Lamar Miller with Jay Ajayi if he's available in your league because they might go to a more hot hand approach with higher volume there and you just want to have them on your team.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. I was. That was my next point was I think Ajayi needs to be added for Miller. Not just Miller owners but he is a great speculative ad in my opinion. I kind of got that. That bubble guts oh feeling for Lamar Miller where the Dolphins might just completely look to the future. I talked about this yesterday free agent and Lamar Miller is a free agent. We're not hearing anything about them re signing him.

[Marty McBride]

So Dynasty leagues, Jai Dynasty keeper league should be on your roster regardless.

[Jason Moore]

He's already rostered in Dynasty but.

[Marty McBride]

Well, okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. I mean like a keeper league. If you, if you hold over two or three guys for the next season, you might Want to add him the same way you'd add Rawls? I mean, obviously Rawls has relevance now, but those type of guys looking into next season might be starting running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, like a Jay and Matt Jones where the guys in front of them are just.

[Marty McBride]

They could be gone.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Marty McBride]

Langford. Langford as well. All right, tight ends. Scott Chandler last week was five for 58 and a touchdown. He actually had the most targets. I think for the tight end. He had 11 targets in all of football last week. Gronkowski set to miss this week. This is still maybe the trepidatious nature of the Patriots. I mean, I think Chandler could come out and block all game and get a catch. Am I wrong?

[Andy Holloway]

No, you're not wrong at all. And we need to make sure because we gave Scott Chandler all that love. I think if you're a Gronk owner, Scott Chandler is a great option to have because he's obviously going to fill in for the time that you need him. You don't have to worry about what time is my. Is. Is New England playing to make your decision. You've got that in Scott Chandler. And specific for why I'm going to pick him up to snake against you is because you need a big boom game and you've got.

[Marty McBride]

Tom Brady has the highest potential for that.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. So that's what I'm going to avoid. As far as him versus the other guys, I think he's in a pack of decent options for tight end this week. Who do the Patriots play?

[Jason Moore]

Philadelphia.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So I kind of like him a little bit more. I would. I would put him first on my list of tight ends, but he's not. He's not David Johnson type. You don't need to go and drop, you know, a ton of fab on him.

[Marty McBride]

So some other guys that are worth discussing, and this is kind of interesting, I looked at scoring leaders at tight end position this past week, and five of the top 10 in our league were unowned. Okay. So that doesn't necessarily apply to every league, but you're talking about guys like Vance McDonald. You know, Zach Miller scored again. Kyle Rudolph had another solid game in terms of targets and catches, 7 for 53. There are some names. You know, I believe Ryan Griffin was one of them. And Cameron Bart Brait, Cameron Braid from Tampa. So this is one of those things where, you know you're rolling the dice, right? You can roll the dice with. With Rudolph. You can roll it with Richard Rogers, who right now seems like the one or probably the only guy that Rodgers Seems really like he wants to throw to in the red zone. So who is it? I mean, I like Rudolph right now because the target numbers for two straight weeks have been up and they're playing a Seattle defense, which. Oh, it's Seattle. Well, Seattle's not good against the tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

At all.

[Jason Moore]

And to me though, it's Old McDonald. Advance McDonald. You have a situation where Garrett Selleck, the other tight end who they were kind of siphoning away from each other, he went down in a heap. I think it was an angle ankle injury. And it looks like he's going to miss some time. So it's the Vance McDonald show and Blaine Gabbard has shown that he wants to throw to the running back. He wants to throw it to the tight end. So I really like him. If you miss out on Scott Chandler and you can get Vance McDonald for very cheap, I think you are in a good situation. Advance McDonald takes on Chicago, which they've been pretty good. They've been okay.

[Marty McBride]

The Vance McDonald thing is interesting because the only thing that's. That's hesitate make giving me hesitation and maybe it shouldn't. But I think he's had like career high games in back to back weeks. Like his career high was last week. And then he passed his career high which is good. Right? Like that's.

[Jason Moore]

But this is great situation of.

[Andy Holloway]

So he's got to do it again.

[Marty McBride]

Are you okay over there?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm dying.

[Marty McBride]

You got.

[Jason Moore]

You sound like Batman. Swear to me.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah, that was.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm back.

[Jason Moore]

But he said his career high because the offensive situation has changed in San Francisco.

[Marty McBride]

You're right.

[Andy Holloway]

You're right.

[Jason Moore]

So they're a brand new team. Essentially right now you have with drone.

[Marty McBride]

And he should be a lot cheaper than other guys that you'd be.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

You lost. You didn't just lose Selleck. When you're talking about the season, you know they traded Vernon Davis away who was their first. There was Selleck. And then I'm going to die.

[Marty McBride]

What is going on with your voice?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Marty McBride]

I think it's quit smoking.

[Jason Moore]

You need your fantasy vegetables.

[Marty McBride]

Good thing this show's almost over here. All right, so what about Zach Miller? Zach Miller still. Yeah, he's still involved. If Bennett, Marcel's Bennett.

[Jason Moore]

If Bennett is out, then Miller is a fine play to me. He only had two catches. He got the touchdown. Jay Cuddy seems to be looking for him. Jason is off top in the courting in the corner. You look like the Blair Witch Project behind Us putting himself in the corner.

[Marty McBride]

I hope the first word I have is now. How you doing, Jay? Why don't you talk. Talk a little bit about some defenses you like this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Marty McBride]

Streaming defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Streaming defenses. I don't know what you just said, Mike, but I'm going to go.

[Marty McBride]

I think it's something about Blair Walsh.

[Andy Holloway]

So I like. I actually like Washington at Dallas. I think their defense has been pretty good. And Tony Romo won't be there.

[Jason Moore]

He'll be there, sure. In a sling.

[Andy Holloway]

But if you're looking for, you know, let's say, you know, you're. We like Houston, we like Minnesota. They're good, but they're probably rostered. If you're looking for a team that is definitely on waivers, look for the team playing against the Ravens because Matt Schaub likes to throw pick sixes. That is pretty much now what he is known for. And touchdowns are worth points.

[Marty McBride]

Dolphins.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's right, the Miami Dolphins.

[Marty McBride]

Chicago plays San Francisco at home and Chicago's competing for a playoff spot. So that is a very. And they're. Their secondary has been so good. I would. It's going to be an interesting game to see if they can shut down that 49er offense like everybody else has. They've been. I mean, I think we looked yesterday. San Francisco is the. In the bottom three in terms of everything.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, sorry, sorry.

[Marty McBride]

We're NFC west fans. We're not being kind right now. Gabrits look capable. Ish.

[Andy Holloway]

He sure has.

[Marty McBride]

So I like the Bears defense this week. Is there anybody else that stands out for people starting?

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's for, for me, it's.

[Marty McBride]

Are you still confident with the Chiefs in Oakland?

[Jason Moore]

No, no. We saw the Chiefs at the beginning of the year when the. When the defense was very, very bad and the Chiefs were a plus matchup for quarterbacks and wide receivers because the secondary is a little bit rough and if they can't get that pass rush with Houston, that could be a very trap situation for you.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah. Actually, Oakland, I believe, scores the 8th most points against fantasy defenses. So they have not been a good matchup.

[Jason Moore]

Derek Carr, we've. I have. I have stated. I have. I'm buying into Derek Carr. And the Texans, at least in ESPN, are available in more than 50% of leagues.

[Marty McBride]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And so they are a defense on the rise with a pretty solid schedule into the playoffs. Week 14 is the Patriots. You probably want to avoid that. But then you have the Colts and the Titans for the. For the rest of the time and they Have Buffalo this week. Who is hit or miss with Tyrod Taylor.

[Marty McBride]

All right, that does it for our waiver section. Let's go ahead and move it on.

[Andy Holloway]

Full stream ahead.

[Marty McBride]

All right, full stream ahead. We're picking some fantasy quarterbacks we like this week. Let's do it. Mike, who's your fantasy streamer at the quarterback position this week?

[Jason Moore]

There are a lot, yes, a lot of great fantasy streaming options this week, but I specifically picked this guy because I personally am riding him. I am a Phillip Rivers owner. I am not going to play Rivers against Denver partially because I need a huge game. If I don't know if we talked about my situation of I'm in a very similar boat with Andy where if I win and I make up ground of a lot of points, I can sneak into a bye week. So this week I'm going with Ryan Tannehill at home against Baltimore. And we saw the Baltimore defense is really not improved that you can still get it done. McCown was having a pretty solid game until he went down with the collarbone, which. So McCown, we didn't even really mention this, but it looks like McCown might have broken his collarbone. Yeah, he came out, he threw up another pass. That guy is a beast.

[Marty McBride]

And he's now completed the set. He's broken every bone in his body in football.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you. You saw him just. He couldn't even make it off the field. And I don't blame him for. If you really broke your collarbone and you went out there and threw a pass. That is ridiculous. So Ryan Tannehill at home against Baltimore. I just. I think it's a situation where Tannehill can really succeed.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm going to. I'm going to stick with the Ryan's and I'm not going Matt Ryan. Yeah, for sure.

[Marty McBride]

Now I have to go Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go with Ryan Fitzpatrick this week. Ryan's. Ryan Fitzpatrick has been solid this year. He pretty much throws for two touchdowns every week. This last week he threw for four touchdowns. But in the last seven weeks, with the obvious exception of when he barely played in the game and went out with an injury, he's only had one game where he threw one touchdown. Everything else is two or more. He's been putting up plenty of yards. Last week against Miami, 277 yards, four touchdowns. And this week he faces the New York Giants, who have a very susceptible secondary. They're 27th in the league as far as points given up to the opposing quarterback. So it's a good Matchup for a guy that's been playing great, you've got Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall. Just you want a quarterback that has weapons, that can find a touchdown even when it's not him doing it. And Ryan Fitzpatrick has been known to run a touchdown in. I mean, he's, he's got 30 yards, 20 yards, another 30. He runs for 20 or 30 yards a game.

[Marty McBride]

So, yeah, I don't, I don't mind that one at all. He had a big game last week. I'm going to go, I went back and forth amongst a bunch of guys and I'm really going out on a limb here a little bit because he's just not being consistent. But Alex Smith, I'm going to go with him. Even though he's traveling to Oakland. Oakland is 27th against fantasy quarterbacks. I like the trajectory of Smith and his passes from last week where he actually aired it out a little bit and, you know, use Kelsey in the seam routes, use Macklin down the sideline and let him go make a play. You know, depending on the running back situation, I just think Smith is going to have a pretty good week. I think two touchdowns is in the cards for him with the potential for a lot more. He had 30 plus points last week and so I, I'm going to go with Alex Smith this week and take a shot.

[Andy Holloway]

I love that. And speaking of, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick, he runs for 10, 20 or 30 yards. But Alex Smith, listen to this. His last four weeks he's run for 35 yards, 33 yards, 33 yards and 76 yards. Yeah, I mean, that's a guy that's getting you a baseline of half a touchdown or if you're in standard scoring, almost, you know, the equivalent of a touchdown a week, regardless of the touchdown. So that's just.

[Marty McBride]

And it's becoming, it's become part of what's made them successful over the. Because they're on a run right now. I mean, they're sitting in the wild card position. And if you watch the game, it's different. Before, Alex Smith was running out of, out of kind of necessity. Now there are plays where he's doing the snap, one read, intentional run, you know, the kind of like delayed draw, quarterback draw. And he's fast, he's really quick and he's doing it intentionally. You can see what were the attempt numbers compared to the beginning of the season?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, absolutely. Well, in the beginning of the season he had, you know, a game with two or three, three for 15. Started the year with two games of 15 yards on the ground the last, the last four weeks. Five carries, six carries, seven carries.

[Jason Moore]

That's great.

[Marty McBride]

That's, that's something that honestly, those are the same type of numbers you get from, you know, Russell Wilson sometimes. So that I like Alex Smith this week and it's a must win game, divisional game against Oakland. It should be a good one.

[Jason Moore]

And just because we were talking about all these other options, those are kind of like the guys that we're, we're picking. But Jay Cutler at home against San Francisco, Marcus Mariota at home against Jacksonville.

[Marty McBride]

Not bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Stafford, the Green Bay has not been great. Stafford is still kind of, he, I guess he's pretty owned after I'm looking at his numbers. But they, if you go through your waiver wire this week, there are a lot of available matchups.

[Marty McBride]

Yep. I totally agree. So that does it. For today's show, I want to invite everybody to go over to JoinTheFoot.com join our fantasy football community. As we mentioned on yesterday's show, we are a year round fantasy football podcast. We do not quit. No, we do not. No quit. Yeah. And so we are. We rely on your support and we love engaging you guys in all the questions and fantasy discussions and we appreciate your support of the show. So check it [e-mail] Any parting words, Mr. Elf on the shelf?

[Jason Moore]

Why?

[Marty McBride]

Good luck spending the rest of the day doing that sucker.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I got a. I have at least three hours that I got to.

[Marty McBride]

You need to put all three in the toilet and then just flush.

[Jason Moore]

That's not a bad idea.

[Marty McBride]

Goodbye, toilet.

[Andy Holloway]

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