Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 14 Matchups, Daily Dose, Mailbag

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 14 Matchups, Daily Dose, Mailbag
Release Date: December 11, 2015

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1. Introduction and General Updates

The episode begins with the hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, engaging in their typical banter, establishing a friendly and humorous tone for the show. They briefly mention returning segments and acknowledge a temporary absence of one of their contributors, Chris Meaney.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [01:22]: "So welcome to the show. We, we are the Fantasy Footballers and we are back here on Friday talking through the rest of the week."

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2. News and Notes from Around the League

a. Player Updates and Injuries:

• Rob Gronkowski: Mike Wright reports frustration over Gronkowski’s questionable status due to a knee brace. The consensus among hosts is that Gronkowski is unlikely to play this week, leading to discussions on alternative tight ends for fantasy lineups.

  Notable Quote:
  Mike Wright [08:25]: "I do not expect him to play."

• Larry Fitzgerald: The hosts express disappointment for fantasy owners who started Fitzgerald, noting his underwhelming performance with 41 yards and no touchdowns last game. Jason Moore emphasizes the lack of touchdowns over seven weeks.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [05:09]: "Instead, he did not kind of materialize for him there."

• Other Player Updates:

  • Troy Nicklaus: Questions about his pass receptions.
  • Brandon Cooks: Reports of a concussion, impacting his activation from the reserve/PUP list.
  • Travis Benjamin: Discussed his potential contribution to the Saints' offense.
  • Jeremy Macklin: Analyzed his matchup against a formidable Kansas City defense, debating his start in fantasy lineups.

b. Team Moves:

• Gary Barnage: Confirmation of his contract extension with Cleveland is briefly mentioned, though details are sparse.

• Chicago Bears: Kevin White will not be activated from the reserve/PUP list, a decision met with approval as it minimally affects fantasy owners.

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3. Fantasy Forecast: Analyzing Week 14 Matchups

This section dives deep into specific player matchups, evaluating their potential performances based on recent trends and opposing defenses.

a. Streaming Defenses:

• Detroit Lions vs. St. Louis Rams: Andy Holloway advocates for streaming the Lions’ defense, highlighting their favorable matchup against the struggling Rams.

  Notable Quote:
  Andy Holloway [17:08]: "The Lions are a top streaming defense this week."

b. Quarterback Performance:

• Philip Rivers vs. Kansas City Chiefs: Rivers faces a tough matchup against the Chiefs' elite pass rush. The consensus is to avoid streaming Rivers due to his low performance against top defenses.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [26:31]: "The Chiefs pass rush is spectacular. He won't have enough time."

• Nick Foles vs. Detroit Lions: Foles is evaluated based on his inconsistent performance throughout the season. Concerns about his effectiveness given Detroit's defensive prowess are raised.

c. Running Backs and Wide Receivers:

• Amir Abdullah (St. Louis Rams): Showed improvement with increased carries and effectiveness in recent games, suggesting a positive trend.

• Julio Jones (Atlanta Falcons): Despite a challenging matchup against Josh Norman, hosts agree on the high value of Jones due to his consistent target volume and big-play potential.

  Notable Quote:
  Andy Holloway [36:25]: "Julio is going to be fine against Josh Norman."

• Michael Floyd and Larry Fitzgerald: Contrasting performances are discussed, with Floyd having a strong game and Fitzgerald underperforming, affecting their value in fantasy lineups.

d. Tight Ends and Alternatives:

• Scott Chandler vs. Austin Jenkins: Evaluated as reliable alternatives in light of Gronkowski’s status.

• DeSean Jackson vs. Vincent Jackson: The decision hinges on matchup specifics, with a slight preference for DeSean due to target consistency.

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4. Daily Dose: Daily Fantasy Sports Insights

Chris Meaney joins the show to provide daily fantasy sports strategies, focusing on quarterback, running back, wide receiver, and tight end selections.

a. Quarterback Picks:

• Cam Newton vs. Ben Roethlisberger: Cam Newton is highlighted as a consistent performer, while Big Ben is praised for his high-volume offense, especially against defense-lacrosse teams like the Steelers.

  Notable Quote:
  Chris Meaney [58:18]: "Cam Newton is just so consistent, averaging 24 fandom points a game."

• Tyrod Taylor and Sam Bradford: Considered viable but less favored compared to Cam and Big Ben due to variability in performance.

b. Running Back Strategies:

• LaShawn McCoy: Recommended for his consistent usage and potential for high-yardage games against weaker defenses.

• Sean Wagner-McGough and Eddie Lacy: Discussed as risky options, with Eddie Lacy deemed too inconsistent for cash games.

  Notable Quote:
  Chris Meaney [60:19]: "Guys like Eddie Lacey, DeMarco Murray, you just can't play them in cash games."

c. Wide Receiver Recommendations:

• Antonio Brown and Brandon Bolden: Antonio Brown is a must-have due to his target volume and synergy with Ben Roethlisberger. Brandon Bolden is noted for his explosive potential despite recent inconsistencies.

  Notable Quote:
  Chris Meaney [62:52]: "I love Brown. How could you not like Brown?"

d. Tight End Selections:

• Greg Olsen and Scott Chandler: Olsen is deemed a safe bet, while Chandler is recommended for his consistent involvement in Brady’s passing game.

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5. Mailbag: Listener Questions and Expert Advice

The hosts address listener-submitted questions, offering tailored advice based on the week’s matchups and player performances.

a. Receiver Start Decision:

• Listener Matt (Minnesota): Asked whether to start Vincent Jackson (Tampa Bay) or Ty Hilton (Colts). Consensus leans towards Jackson for his safer floor and big-play potential.

  Notable Quote:
  Andy Holloway [69:54]: "I would agree with that. Even if Vincent Jackson doesn't get the score, he's been catching such long passes that I think he's going to be safer."

b. DEZ Bryant vs. other Wide Receivers:

• Listener Jared: Debated starting DEZ Bryant or other receivers like Marty McBride and Doug Baldwin. Hosts unanimously recommend starting DEZ Bryant due to his higher point ceiling.

  Notable Quote:
  Andy Holloway [71:13]: "The answer to this question is yes. He will lose you your championship weeks here and all of the guys that you named in your list."

c. Running Back Choice:

• Listener Jason (San Diego): Asked whether to start TJ Yeldin (Colts) or Todd Gurley (Broncos). Recommendations vary, with Mike Wright favoring Yeldin for consistent performance, while Andy Holloway prefers Gurley for his touchdown potential.

d. Additional Queries:

• Injury Concerns and Flex Positions: Listeners are advised to stay updated on player statuses and consider high-upside options in flex positions, especially when dealing with injured stars.

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6. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The episode wraps up with the hosts reiterating key takeaways for Week 14, emphasizing the importance of staying informed on player statuses and matchups. They encourage listeners to leverage the insights provided to optimize their fantasy lineups for playoff success.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [74:07]: "Thanks for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers."

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Key Insights and Recommendations

• Streaming Defenses: Target defenses with favorable matchups, such as the Detroit Lions against the St. Louis Rams.
• Quarterback Choices: Favor consistent quarterbacks with high target volumes; avoid those facing elite pass defenses.
• Running Back Selection: Prioritize backs with steady usage and potential for big plays, avoiding inconsistent performers.
• Wide Receiver Decisions: Start high-volume receivers with explosive potential; DEZ Bryant is highly recommended.
• Tight End Alternatives: Use reliable options like Greg Olsen or Scott Chandler, especially when star tight ends are injured.
• Injury Monitoring: Stay updated on player injuries and adjust lineups accordingly to avoid losing critical points in playoff weeks.

This comprehensive summary encapsulates the critical discussions, player analyses, and strategic advice offered by the Fantasy Footballers during their Week 14 podcast episode, providing valuable insights for both seasoned and novice fantasy football enthusiasts.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

This is hall of Fame and Marshall.

[Jason Moore]

Falk and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome. Welcome, Everybody. It's Friday, December 11th.

[Mike Wright]

I'm hurting them with the twist right now.

[Jason Moore]

You're hitting them with the twist. No, that's the Cam. That's the Cam Newton. Oh, I've never seen a better twist than Cam Newton's twist.

[Mike Wright]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know what that means. I'm worried about it.

[Mike Wright]

Cam Newton's Cam Newton celebration is fire. I pulled fire.

[Jason Moore]

Did you know I pulled off a. I did a little Cam Newton when I was on the flag football field.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you didn't see it?

[Andy Holloway]

No way.

[Mike Wright]

I missed it.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, I, I Did you dabbing? No, no, I, I scrambled a little bit in the pocket and I, I behind the back, passed to our right guard who ran it for like 15 yards. And then I did the Cam Newton first down towards the bench.

[Mike Wright]

Double the double guns.

[Jason Moore]

Double guns.

[Andy Holloway]

The book.

[Jason Moore]

And it felt great. It felt great. Yeah, the book, it. Yeah. So we're basically the same player, man.

[Mike Wright]

Pretty, pretty close.

[Jason Moore]

So welcome to the show. We, we are the Fantasy Footballers and we are back here on Friday talking through the rest of the week. 14 matchups. We've got your news and notes, all your injury reports. We have the Daily Dose segment.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we're back.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Meaney's back for just one week.

[Mike Wright]

It feels like I think it was two.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's just one.

[Mike Wright]

No, the week before was.

[Jason Moore]

He's right. Because we had Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

Thanksgiving.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

So, dear, dear, dear good friend of the show.

[Jason Moore]

We didn't mean to leave him off.

[Andy Holloway]

See what you do.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks. Thanks. Alright, you want to follow the show, you can do so on Twitterffballers. Check us out on YouTube on the fantasy Sports Network. Check us out on the Web, the fantasy footballers.com and we are fresh off of yet another Patreon mailbag show. We do an extra show every week for all of our supporters on jointhefoot.com so we did that yesterday. That was a good time. Heard some good stories from people and their leagues and how they've come back from the dead to now rise in the playoff hunt. So let me get right into it right now because, Mike, you just got back from the Thursday night game. In fact, one of the Foot Clan listeners captured a screenshot of a camera seeing you.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I got spotted, which is hilarious. Hilarious. And in that very moment of the game, I was furious with what was Happening with the Cardinals. So it's a little bit low res, but I'm sure if you could see my face, I'm just staring, I'm mean, mugging the crap out of that camera.

[Jason Moore]

That camera like, get this, get it.

[Mike Wright]

Out of my face right now. Because I am not pleased with what is happening.

[Jason Moore]

Well, let me ask then the quick question of the day was this. What fantasy owner is the happiest and saddest after last night's game? We're in the playoffs. A lot of players playing.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll go with happiest.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I think the happiest.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Floyd. Owners.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was going to say. If you are in the playoffs and you're, you know, you've got a good team, but you're looking at that last spot and you're going, who do I start? Do I put Floyd in there? Or even. I would, I would say John Brown. Owners. You're happy, you know, that he got that 65 yard touchdown. He, you know, you get a bonus. I would say people that started, guys like that, the lower tier, questionable tier, guys that had a great game, you're off to a good start with your playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go with the owners who were forced. They were pushed into a corner like, like Baby from Dirty Dancing.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

And nobody puts Baby in a corner. And the people who were forced to start Teddy Bridgewater last night, who had the best game of his career with, oh, I think almost 350 yards, only one touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

But now how many of those yards were on this stupid screen? Passes. The Cardinals can't stop.

[Mike Wright]

It was all tied in screenshots.

[Jason Moore]

That's ridiculous. So who's the saddest owner from last night?

[Mike Wright]

Saddest owner.

[Jason Moore]

And did the Adrian, I mean the Adrian Peterson situation pretty much met expectation, did it not? Because we looked. First drive, this happens a lot. Scripted first drive plays are, you know, running with anger. Four for 38 and a touchdown for Peterson on drive number one. Rest of the game, I believe 1.19 carries for 31 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, 1.6 a carry.

[Andy Holloway]

There's that defense.

[Mike Wright]

And I will tell you this, that was just a stab in my gut as I'm watching that because I just watched the Minnesota Vikings, who were inept last week, storm down the field on the Cardinals. And I was very vocal in my reluctance and work. Concerned about Adrian Peterson went up. Apparently I was very, very wrong. But I was about half right now there. The touchdown saved his day.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say there are some disappointed if anybody rolled Out Stefan Diggs. You're disappointed. I don't know if you're doing that anymore.

[Mike Wright]

You know who rolled out?

[Jason Moore]

Larry Fitzgerald.

[Andy Holloway]

Larry Fitzgerald owners are disappointed, especially if you're in a standard league. He got 41 total yards, no touchdown. If you're in a standard and you don't get points for those five catches, you are not off to the races.

[Mike Wright]

Right. And what was really frustrating was the. I'm the Larry Fitzgerald owner, so I may be skewed a little bit here, but on the Michael, I believe you are.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But on the Michael Floyd touchdown. What is he doing over there? That pass was to Larry Fitzgerald.

[Jason Moore]

Of course it was. Of course it was.

[Mike Wright]

And then towards the end of the game, we were talking about this. Troy Nicklaus, the tight end, thought, oh, that passes to me.

[Jason Moore]

No, there was a reason I had Larry Fitzgerald as far down my rankings as I did, and it had to do with one touchdown in seven weeks. Now eight weeks. One touchdown in eight weeks. The downfield balls are all going to a healthy John Brown, a healthy Michael Floyd. Larry has to make his money on 8 to 10 catch type games, and it just didn't kind of materialize for him there.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

No, it did. Not this week.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I do want to. Before we get into the news and notes, I want to remind everybody, we haven't mentioned it on the show for a while, but if you have an iPhone, go grab the Water Wheel app, make some bets with your friends.

[Mike Wright]

Or an iPad.

[Jason Moore]

Or an iPad. That's correct. And yes, we know Android users would like it too, and we're gonna get there. But right now, I just want to remind everybody, go get the Waterwheel app. It's free. It's really fun. We put it out there just so that you can make bets with your friends and then pay it out by dousing each other with water and then filming it and putting it on Twitter and everybody can laugh. And it makes fantasy football better, which is the whole point of this show.

[Andy Holloway]

The wheel of water. Nobody got in that with me. Thanks, guys.

[Jason Moore]

No, we didn't.

[Mike Wright]

I considered it.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

So first word. First word, you're hoping. Second word, you're desperate. Third word, you're alone.

[Andy Holloway]

Third word. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Third word was, do I bail out of this? Right, Right.

[Jason Moore]

Do you stop wheel?

[Andy Holloway]

You know what? I carried it by myself. I carried it alone.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What's up in the news?

[Jason Moore]

All right. Gary Barnage. We talked about the contract extension.

[Mike Wright]

Did we?

[Jason Moore]

I thought we did.

[Mike Wright]

I don't remember.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we did we talked about the news? I think that was on our special Patreon show. I think we broke the news.

[Jason Moore]

I think we broke it on here when we talked about the fact the Foot Clan member had a picture with him and approved the nickname, did we not?

[Andy Holloway]

You might be right.

[Mike Wright]

I don't remember so many shows.

[Jason Moore]

But let's say Barnage signed.

[Mike Wright]

He's.

[Jason Moore]

He's with Cleveland. Honestly, this is what I call.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, good for you, Gary Barnage.

[Jason Moore]

There you go. All right. I'm not going to talk about anymore. All right. Chicago Tribune reports Bears wide receiver Kevin White will not be activated from the reserve pup list. This is the smart move.

[Mike Wright]

John Fox, he got us again with his injury. Injury reports.

[Jason Moore]

Not that it was going to affect fantasy owners very much. All right. We didn't talk about it yesterday. We're getting into that game today. But Rob Gronkowski was seen at practice. Bulky brace on the knee sent a shiver up my spine as a. Okay. Is he going to go? Is he not going to go? What are we thinking about Gronkowski right now? And I know he'll be in the injury section, but this is a little bit more worthy of a discussion because it affects everybody in fantasy football who has Rob Gronkowski.

[Andy Holloway]

If Gronk plays, you play him. And I don't expect him to play this week at all.

[Mike Wright]

I do not expect him to play. And the difficult thing about this is if you don't have Scott Chandler or one of those later tight ends, who are the Patriots playing?

[Jason Moore]

I can't recall the Texans or Ryan Griffin.

[Mike Wright]

So, yeah, if you don't have Griffin or a guy, you could maybe go with the tight fighter on with the Giants or short, you could play Jordan Cameron.

[Andy Holloway]

So I've got a question for you. Let's say what the point that you're making is.

[Mike Wright]

You can't wait for him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you can't wait to see if he's there. If you are the owner right now and of asj, right, he's got a good matchup, a good solid play this week and it looks like Gronk really might play. But you're curious by that time would you drop ASJ and pick up a Griffin or a tie?

[Jason Moore]

Who to play the risk.

[Andy Holloway]

To play the risk of being able.

[Jason Moore]

To do it with Ty. Yeah, I would do it with.

[Mike Wright]

Ty's going.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, now here's. Here's a catch. If you're a Gronkowski owner and the ASJ owner because ASJ looks like he has a lot of upside.

[Andy Holloway]

Austin Jenkins Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Austin's Varian Jenkins next week. So we don't think Gronk will play. I really don't. It doesn't make sense. But this is good sign for him maybe playing next week. And if they somehow lost to Houston, that's three in a row. They got to win the game next week, though, on Thursday night. Buccaneers play on Thursday night, which means.

[Andy Holloway]

Not good for Gronkov.

[Jason Moore]

If you're trending and trying to figure out Gronk, you've got Austin, Tavarian, Jenkins on Thursday. You have to decide on.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Andy, can I ask.

[Jason Moore]

Painful.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I ask you a question? You're a Gronk owner. Who'd you pick up as your tight end?

[Jason Moore]

Austin, Severian Jenkins.

[Andy Holloway]

And if you win this week, who you got to play next week?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

It's me.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, who do I have to play?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

See, I was looking at the more.

[Mike Wright]

Going to fill in it.

[Jason Moore]

I was looking at the more broad context of fantasy football about who I'm going to play. But you were. You were focusing on the tunnel vision. Okay, let's go ahead. And what else do we got? The Browns are working towards signing Travis Benjamin to a contract extension. That would help that offense.

[Mike Wright]

It's all Browns all the time here.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say, what is this going on here? All right, let's move it on.

[Andy Holloway]

What's it gonna be, McFly?

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Are you in or out?

[Jason Moore]

All right, in or out. Ronnie Hillman and C.J. anderson as.

[Mike Wright]

As of now, they're both expected to play, but monitor their Friday practice situation.

[Andy Holloway]

I still have CJ Anderson as my sit of the week, so I'm not. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Coming off that ankle injury. And Hillman has a foot injury.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. The reports are ambiguous as ever from Kubiak saying basically expects guys to practice, but then Joanne Thompson could start. So if one guy's alone or close to alone, I'm happy starting them in that match.

[Mike Wright]

Be very ready on Sunday to have to make a change. If you're a Broncos running back owner.

[Jason Moore]

Enter out Carlos Williams.

[Mike Wright]

I think he'll be out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, looking that way.

[Jason Moore]

Inter out Chris Thompson.

[Mike Wright]

The good news is Chris Thompson, I don't know if you heard us talking about his tear yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

He has a tear.

[Mike Wright]

They've successfully stitched him back together. He's whole again.

[Jason Moore]

Bad magic accident is what I understand.

[Andy Holloway]

He has not practiced at all this week, so I would. I would be doubtful that they can Frankenstein him together enough to play.

[Mike Wright]

Don't trust those street magicians.

[Jason Moore]

This is the type of analysis. Analysis. You get on the show. All right. Brandon Cooks, big news yesterday. This is borderline. Just breaking concussion during practice this week. Almost assuredly not going to play. Is that what you're hearing as well?

[Mike Wright]

I can't imagine a situation, protocol situation where he plays.

[Andy Holloway]

This would hurt Drew Brees as well. Willie Snead is.

[Jason Moore]

It will help Benjamin Watson.

[Andy Holloway]

It would help Coleman. I think Coleman caught a good pass last week. I mean the balls have to go.

[Jason Moore]

Somewhere for his family league. They'll play him good. Alan Hearns in or out?

[Mike Wright]

I think he'll be in. But he was downgraded on Thursday's practice. Too limited. So you need to monitor.

[Andy Holloway]

You never like seeing guys downgraded. But if there's somebody who I would trust it would be Alan Hearns.

[Jason Moore]

Travis Benjamin, in or out?

[Andy Holloway]

He says, he says that he is going to play. He says I guarantee I'm playing. He was a limited participant on Thursday. So I'm going to take him in his word and say he plays.

[Jason Moore]

In or out. Cecil Shorts.

[Mike Wright]

I think he'll play.

[Jason Moore]

Kendall, right?

[Mike Wright]

I think, I think he'll play.

[Andy Holloway]

Play injured.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Willie Snead, he better play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they pretty much have to have him.

[Jason Moore]

And then Rob Gronkowski at the tight end position.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he plays.

[Jason Moore]

Zach Miller, he played last week. Now is alone with that Martellus Bennett.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he played last week through the his. I think it's a rib injury.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a sneaky, sneaky play, I think.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Charles Clay, he'll play. Vernon Davis, he is questionable to me. So he had the concussion.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, correct.

[Jason Moore]

So we don't know about him quite yet. So that's anybody else we need to mention?

[Mike Wright]

I think that's all the, the big guys.

[Jason Moore]

The big guys.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy forecast.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's break these down. We've also got our DFS segment coming up and we got some mailbag. We want to answer questions from the listeners. So if it'll be jam packed, it might be a little long. I think you'll be all right. Megalodon, everyone's gonna be okay.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no.

[Jason Moore]

Don't bring that word up again.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, there is a Megalodon show coming up.

[Jason Moore]

We haven't even announced that yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm announcing it right now. I'm breaking the news.

[Jason Moore]

He's always doing it.

[Mike Wright]

He's the blurter.

[Jason Moore]

He is the blurter. The fantasy blurter.

[Andy Holloway]

On Christmas week, we are going to have a Megalodon show. The Wednesday before the Christmas Eve Eve is our Christmas present to you all. So if you lose and you're out of the playoffs this week, which I doubt you do because you listen to this show, but it happens more and more, you're going to be playing other people that listen to the show.

[Jason Moore]

It's going to happen to Mike, so it can happen to you.

[Mike Wright]

It's not looking good for Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, if that's your situation, make sure you keep listening. It's actually really valuable. One of the things that I've noticed over the years is that players who lose early, let's say you, you didn't make the playoffs, you stop paying attention and that hurts you so much for the following year to be able to know the late season trends that make such an impact on the following year, on the draft season. So hopefully we're entertaining enough where you can keep listening whether you're in it or out of it. We still get a lot of questions, actually questions coming in from people who are out of it. Kudos to you. You are already playing strong for next year.

[Jason Moore]

So one of the things that really surprised us and shows you about fantasy owners that know what they're doing is that when we, when we first started this podcast, in the very beginning, we started in the off season and the incredible demand for the off season content because there, there really isn't an off season. We don't even like saying that. We say it's preseason for 2016 because there's so much news. There's always free agency and the draft and, and you know, trades and things that take place and then all of the changes just with players and things like that and strategy changes and depth. So there's so many reasons to listen. And so that's why we record all year round. We don't just do that for fun because people check out. We do that because people want it. And so that's why we're doing it. And so it's a good reminder. Lions go to St. Louis take on the Rams Take on the Rams and I like the Lions defense a lot. That's the headliner for me is stream the Lions defense.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. I think the Lions are a top streaming defense this week. Have we heard any news if it's Nick Foles or Keenum? Have you guys heard anything? As far as I know, it's still Nick Foles.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah, I think it's still Nick Foles until we get a clearance for Mr. Keenum.

[Mike Wright]

And as far as I know, it doesn't matter if it's Nick Foles or.

[Jason Moore]

Nick Foles will start at quarterback for the range.

[Mike Wright]

There you go. 15 hours ago so the Lions are a great streaming option. Stafford, I think he's an okay play here. The, the over unders only 40 and a half points. I mean that's, that's lower. That's on the lower end for sure. But Stafford with the, the offensive changes they've, they've made has been playing better at least in terms of putting up fantasy stats. The, the guy that I want to talk about, Amir Abdullah, not just because he was my, I was passionate about this man coming into the, into fantasy drafts and has since gone the way of the dodo bird.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

However, St. Louis is giving up over four yards of carry the last three weeks. Abdullah is coming off his best game of the year on the ground. He's had double digit carries the last three weeks. Things are trending in the right direction to finish the season for Amir.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with you.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Because the team's playing well. It was so disappointing for their momentum to have what happened at the end of the packers game because they had Just been playing so well. They really, they won that game, you know, I guess that's not true.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but not in the win loss call.

[Jason Moore]

Right. But this should be a good game for them. Stafford's a good start. Foals was 15 for 35 for 146 yards last game. That's a nightmare season for Foles that somehow he got an extension in the middle of and that just.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, he could because he got the. In classic Jeff Fisher nature, he got the extension before he even saw him play.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll tell you what, this, this game is a, is a Jeff Fisher on call type of game. So yeah, I think, I think they go, they go to the Lions and they lose while they're at home or they, they have the Lions come to town and they lose. I'm just saying it's not looking good.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. He'll get fired too if they show up in Detroit. Yeah, the Lions, like, what are you doing?

[Andy Holloway]

All fans came and you weren't here.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah. There's no one at the stadium.

[Jason Moore]

I want to really know this though because a lot of people that I've been telling to stream the Lions. Who do you stream them over? Like, the Lions seem so safe to me. They seem like one of the safest defenses in like if you're a favorite. Okay. Would you rather play the Lions than the Chiefs? No, because the Lions. Yes, the Lions are facing a Rams offense. They can't score at all. And the Chiefs are facing San Diego team that. Okay, they've struggled a little bit, but it still scares me to go up against a breeze or a Rivers or a big, big quarterback like that.

[Andy Holloway]

I see exactly what you're saying. If you're in a league that has, you know, incredible negative performances from defenses from time to time, then, then yes, I would agree with you. But even when you are favored, you still need to put up points. You don't know what's going to happen. I like Kansas City more this week, so I would play them, but I think the point you're bringing up is great. You're not going to have the St. Louis Rams put up 35 on you and, you know, crush you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't think it's possible. I really don't. So the Saints go to Tampa Bay to take on the Buccaneers. This is a very, very high scoring projected game. Over 50 points in Vegas right now. And the Buccaneers are playing well. The Saints, we talked about Brandon Cooks. Maybe that adjusts the line a little bit now that he's in concussion protocol. And injured, but Mark Ingram's out. We need to know what to do with our running backs for the New Orleans Saints because a lot of people picked up Hightower today. A lot of people picked up C.J. spiller today.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's. We honestly don't know. There's been no real clarification. The, the biggest clarification we've gotten from the Saints was, was Peyton saying all three guys are going to play, including the rookie. So good luck. Good luck. If you're going to just throw a guy out there like Hightower for your fantasy playoffs. I understand. So let's talk worst case scenario. You have no better option. Would you go with Hightower or Spiller?

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather go with Hightower because if they're using him in that Ingram role, that means he's going to get the ball early, he's going to have the first opportunity, he's probably going to touch the ball the most. He's going to be more utilized in the goal line situation. Those type of things, I think, are where you're going to see Hightower used. You saw when he, when he was signed and picked up, he came in and had 11 carries early on.

[Jason Moore]

He's 12 for 48 on the year for four yards of carry.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, so. So I don't know how. Is. How, how everything is going to pan out. Now. If you're in a PPR league, that shifts it a little bit, especially with Brandon Cooks being gone, they might need to use C.J. spiller as a, as a pass catcher a little bit more. That's obviously new information from yesterday. So if I'm in a ppr, I would probably lean Spiller. If I'm in a half point PPR or regular, I would lean Hightower. Hightower is playing them over.

[Jason Moore]

Hightower is just an incredible story because he hasn't played a game. I mean, he went a gap in his career from 2011 to 2015.

[Mike Wright]

That's. Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Basically he didn't play in 2011, so it was basically 2010.

[Andy Holloway]

He's fresh. 2015, it's very fresh.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, people who hear that name, they go, wait, do I remember him? Yeah. He was on the super bowl team for the Cardinals in 2008.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So if, if you can pass block as a running back, you can get a job.

[Andy Holloway]

That is the big knock on C.J. spiller. That's why when, when the news broke and I was an Ingram owner, I went to Twitter and said, the guy that I'm picking up is Hightower. But the question is who would you start? Hightower?

[Jason Moore]

No one.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I was saying this is worst case scenario. There's. There's.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you start Hightower or Jeremy Langford?

[Mike Wright]

Langford.

[Jason Moore]

Langford.

[Andy Holloway]

I would take Hightower. Would you take Hightower or Darren Sprols?

[Jason Moore]

Sprouls.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would take Hightower. Hightower or Melvin Gordon?

[Mike Wright]

Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Gordon.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Hightower.

[Jason Moore]

So you picked High Tower on all three of those?

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

So you must have some insight.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah Crowell or Hightower? Crowell's got a great matchup this week.

[Mike Wright]

Crowell is. He's been getting carries. He's just not been productive. It's. It's a. I don't know. I have no idea what the. What the Saints are going to do.

[Andy Holloway]

So in general, don't play Hightower. Hold him. See what happens.

[Jason Moore]

That's the strategy here. If you can. I mean, if you. If you can't, if you're completely screwed, if you had no depth, then maybe you have to roll him out there and just take a chance. But the Buccaneers seventh against the run, they don't give up a ton of yards on the ground. Austin. Severian Jenkins is a good start in this game as the Saints are terrible against the tight end and most other metrics for defense in general, which makes Evans and Vincent Jackson good starts. Would you agree with me?

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

So Vincent Jackson somebody. That is a tougher decision for people. So would you start Vincent Jackson or DeSean Jackson this week?

[Andy Holloway]

I would start DeSean Jackson. The matchup is great for Winston, and the matchup is great for Evans and for Desmond Jackson. But one of the problems that you've got here is what we're forgetting. They were all healthy, you know, once before, and there's not enough passes to normally go around to have all three have a productive day. And it was. It was a little bit more of a guessing game. So for me, I am. You know, any one of these guys can have a big monster game, but do you see any world where they all do just because it's New Orleans?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I see it as a possibility, but it's the possibility that any of them can, which is the.

[Jason Moore]

It's the same thing we saw last.

[Mike Wright]

Night where I said, start your Cardinals now. It was unfortunate it didn't work out for the Fitzgerald owners, but John Brown, David Johnson, Michael Floyd owners are very happy.

[Andy Holloway]

How many games has Jameis Winston thrown for 300 yards? 00 in his. In the whole year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, which is why you got it all right. But it's. It's touchdowns through the Air is what they're at home.

[Jason Moore]

Worst defense, a Saints defense that has given it up a lot of touchdowns. I would not hesitate to start one of those guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so would you start Vincent Jackson over Desean Jackson?

[Jason Moore]

No, I start Desean Jackson. I have Vincent Jackson at like 24 and Deshaun Jackson. No, I have. I have him basically Back to back.

[Mike Wright]

DeSean Jackson is getting a decent target volume for a player of what he does where you want the big play. But he's still getting, you know, seven targets. Close.

[Jason Moore]

For me, it's close because of the matchups. Yeah. So the weird thing is the Saints have actually not given up a ton of yards to wide receivers over the last few games. So it makes me think ASJ has good potential in the offense as well as Charles Sims and Doug Martin. We'll see how that breaks down. Obviously, everybody can't have a big game, but the matchup's delicious. And the Buccaneers are trending upwards. Now the Chargers head to Kansas City to Arrowhead to take on the Chiefs. It's funny because it looks like we always have the weather in here, but where the dash is, it looks like it's going to be negative 48 out. So I'm going to like defenses in that situation. What can we do? Rivers looked like a guy that was playoff startable. Now he looks like a guy that you have to run from. Philip Rivers, you can.

[Mike Wright]

I can I imagine Philip Rivers right now and the. The guy from Back to the Future 3 coming up with his measuring tape. And Philip Rivers has no idea what's going on. The guy says, oh, no, I'm just measuring you for your coffin.

[Jason Moore]

I remember that because Philip Rivers is.

[Mike Wright]

Going to be destroyed. Unfortunately, there's not very many situations where I'm playing Rivers, and by destroyed, I mean his offensive line is in shambles. It has been all year. And the Kansas City Chiefs pass rush is spectacular. That is the strength of their. Of their defense. And he just. He won't have enough time. He's going to get hit. He's going to get sacked to the.

[Jason Moore]

Point of when he doesn't have reliable outside weapons anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Inman, we saw him have that pretty devastating injury last week. Stevie Johnson had a groin. Jason, do you have an update?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was going to say both Stevie Johnson and Doncho Inman didn't practice at all. And neither did Stevie on Thursday. So you're talking.

[Mike Wright]

That's not good news.

[Andy Holloway]

You're talking about no weapons.

[Jason Moore]

Plus they went out, signed Vincent Brown for a reason. They are not Expecting their guys back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. When you don't have good options to throw the ball to and you've got a pass rush coming to your face like crazy. You know, the one thing that does make me consider a little bit more will be Danny Woodhead.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like I was just about to say that. That song has been sung three weeks in a row. It's over for me. Yeah, that's the same. It's the same story every week. It's Danny Woodhead's going to be the beneficiary of a bad offense. No, he's not. He's going to be the guy they stop. And they've stopped him every single week.

[Mike Wright]

Well, they just. They haven't really even gone to him. He's been stopped. Yes, but he's not getting the targets like he was at the beginning of the season because they're.

[Jason Moore]

They're.

[Mike Wright]

They're really trying to get Melvin Gordon going, so.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Char West, Spencer. Where.

[Mike Wright]

That was very syncopy.

[Jason Moore]

Where in West? Where do we go?

[Andy Holloway]

Where do we go?

[Mike Wright]

I. You sounded like Captain Kirk over there.

[Jason Moore]

Make a decision. Should we go with.

[Mike Wright]

You got to go with Char west here. I know that was. It was very split and where Ware got the touchdown last week, it was split. But west was coming off of a pretty nasty hamstring injury. I believe that he is the much better fit for the offense. He is the pass catching back. I will still lean to him, though. I do kind of. I feel that both are startable where more is a flex though. But because the Chargers, their run defense is so bad.

[Jason Moore]

Char west or Gio Bernard for you guys?

[Andy Holloway]

That was the question I was literally just going to ask. I think I would go Char West.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go Char West.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. I have Geo a little bit higher. What about Char west or Latavius Murray this week?

[Mike Wright]

Char West.

[Andy Holloway]

Char West.

[Jason Moore]

Jeremy Hill.

[Mike Wright]

Char west probably still.

[Jason Moore]

All right. And then the last guy I want to talk about here is the Jeremy Macklin effect of facing Verdette Verrett. What did I say?

[Andy Holloway]

Verdette.

[Mike Wright]

You put a D in.

[Jason Moore]

Verdette was a. He's a player for the Arizona Coyotes hockey team.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to guess. Is that a hockey.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it is. It is. So Verrett and Macklin, last time they.

[Mike Wright]

Faced each other was not good.

[Jason Moore]

It was not good for Macklin. I'm not going to. Macklin's turning in the right direction right now. And I do think this is the type of game that if it goes according to script, which it can, lots of things change. I worry about the passing offense for Kansas City in general. If they can get it done, the ground against one of the worst run defenses in football. If their defense can cause turnovers, short fields, running offense, the yards might not be there because we saw this happen with Macklin. Jason, we talked about this before. Macklin had two big games but against Denver, I mean against who was it they played? Was it Oakland when he had bad games? Well, he faced somebody where the game was just over.

[Andy Holloway]

This is one of those games. It was 33 to 3 was the final score of this game. So it's like that's the one. Why would you use Jeremy? Why would you use your wide receiver at all? You don't need to. And so that's the issue with this game is is Kansas City going to come and just blow them out? You know, the truth is, can San Diego score on Kansas City? That's the question of this game. Without their weapons, can they score on Kansas City? Because if they can't, it's not going to be a very great game to play. Jeremy Macklin is my guess.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, so he has been playing great. I still think he's in my lineup because that 33 points has to get distributed somewhere if they scored like they did last time. But it is worrisome that he only had three catches in that game. Game flow can be a problem. You know, it's funny how you can spin the perspective on a player both directions, right? Like we're saying the Kansas City Chiefs are likely to win. Vegas has them as 10 point favorites and we're saying that could be bad for Macklin.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, because the truth is just like last time, it could be the defense that's scoring. You know, it could be another pick six. Rivers has thrown six pick sixes on the year. So if the defense.

[Jason Moore]

Six, how many pick sixes has Philip Rivers pick? Six.

[Mike Wright]

Can't pick how many? 56 when it picks.

[Andy Holloway]

But there you go, wheel.

[Jason Moore]

Water.

[Mike Wright]

So in Alex Smith is the last guy I'm going to touch on. He had 253 yards but no touchdowns last time he played against San Diego like we talked about because the defense was putting a shellacking in the run game was out of control. However, I have Philip Rivers and Alex Smith on my team and I am tearing my shirt off like a free man and I'm putting Alex Smith at the wheel of my team in the playoffs and I feel very nervous about it.

[Jason Moore]

I like Alex Smith, he's the start of the week. Last week put up a 30 point game he definitely can do it. They're going to score. It's just a matter of where that happens.

[Mike Wright]

He's running for basically 30 yards a week the last four weeks. So that's a nice little bump.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we got to move on. Colts go to Jacksonville, take on the Jaguars. This game's basically a toss up right now because of the Hasselbeck situation. Blake Bortles coming off a five touchdown week. Good game for Yelden last week. Allen Robinson was a monster. And Julius Thomas on the Jacksonville side is ascending. He's my start of the week at the tight end position. There's a lot of great reasons to like the offense for Jacksonville. Let's talk about the offense for the Colts because I don't think there are a lot of doubts on who you're starting on the other side of the ball. So Frank Gore, Ty Hilton, what I mean, Hilton is the hardest person for me, almost this whole year has been the hardest person for me to say, oh yeah, you got to start him this week. He's great.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Because of his. What he does best is a direct conflict of what Matt Hasselbeck does best. Where Hilton is a spectacular deep ball guy. Now he can. He can take screens and things and get it done. As we've seen where two weeks ago he had great game. He had a pair of touchdowns. Even Moncrief got in the action over 100 yards. And I can't recall what Hilton put up last week. What did he put up last week?

[Andy Holloway]

He had three for 36.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's so just which sums it up.

[Andy Holloway]

And you. Exactly. You've got a complete gamble.

[Mike Wright]

Low floor, high ceiling.

[Andy Holloway]

That being said, I would expect him to have better numbers against Jacksonville than he would against the Pittsburgh Steelers, who he put up the three for 36. So I'm a little bit more comfortable starting Hilton. The problem is going to be Hasselbeck shoulder. He's practicing now. He's practicing at full. He's going to start. So there's no worries there. But you know, again, the deep ball think would be the worry. Frank Gore to me is everybody I would want to play.

[Jason Moore]

I was gonna say, why is everybody grimacing when they put Frank Gore into their lineup right now?

[Andy Holloway]

Because he had a couple games in a row where he looked like he was not running well and he was hurt. You know, he was, he was playing, but he was playing hurt and he didn't run very well. Last week though, he ran okay. He also got involved. What did he have last week? Last week he was 13 carries, 45 yards on the ground, three catches for 49 yards through the air with a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

So really saved his fantasy day with his catching.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. And today, I mean this, this week with Hasselback with that hurt shoulder, I mean that's a check down Charlie type of situation.

[Mike Wright]

This is why people are concerned with Frank Gore, the same reason they were at the beginning of the year. He's older, he's has so many carries on his body. Can he sustain an entire season? Then you couldn't do this stretch late in the season where he looks like he is slowing down. So of course you're going to have concern on him. I don't blame people for it.

[Jason Moore]

Falcons go to Carolina, take on the Panthers, the undefeated Panthers, the Cam Newton led Panthers. What are we expecting from the Falcons offense? Because they haven't had much.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

If you look at the problems that I see on that offense and the reason they're trending this direction is you have Julio Jones and no one else. You've had, you know, very limited production from an old Roddy White. You've had Leonard Hankerson now on ir. You have Devin Hester who hasn't contributed at all this year. It's like Tammy and Julio and Devonte Freeman.

[Mike Wright]

Freeman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but Freeman's not a wide receiver. But he has to play one on tv.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's. He basically is. I mean, that's why he gets five, six catches a week. You can book it.

[Jason Moore]

So. Okay, so where do we want to start in this discussion? Jonathan Stewart has eight straight weeks of 20 plus carries. He's in your lineup. Cam Newton's in your lineup. Yes. Ted Ginn, Julio Jones. Talk about both sides here for me. Talk about your concerns with Julio. Where's his baseline? Really with Josh Norman and should people be concerned about a couple of limited practices this week?

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he should be concerned about the limited practices at all. It's. That's veteran treatment. Calvin Johnson has been limited since 2012 basically every single day.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

And he plays. And I expect Julio Jones to play this. It's the hot topic of Julio Jones versus Josh Norman. Yeah, there's some concern there. But you play Julio Jones in this matchup. This isn't. I don't have the Adrian Peterson concern.

[Jason Moore]

That I had for 17 targets last week for Julio Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's pretty nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Julio is going to be fine against Josh Norman. I don't, I don't think it's a gigantic deal. Josh Norman stays on the outside. They move Julio around, they'll Put him in the slot, they'll put him on the left, they'll put him on the right. And so he'll have Josh Norman on him, you know, a good chunk of the game, but not all game. And if you look, it's. It's actually kind of how they use Brandon Cooks as well, who played last week. Brandon Cooks had six for 104 and a touchdown. So to say that Julio can't have a good game is silly. And I'm not sitting Julio. Julio's who got you to the playoffs. Start him and start him over most all guys.

[Mike Wright]

Do you think Julio Jones, when he's lined up in the slot, will point at Josh Norman and be like nana to boo, Boo. You can't guard me.

[Jason Moore]

Probably not.

[Mike Wright]

And then Josh Norman.

[Andy Holloway]

Drats.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Foiled again.

[Jason Moore]

Probably not. Probably not.

[Mike Wright]

What it's gonna happen.

[Jason Moore]

What's funny is that Norman has been talking up the matchup a lot. He said. I think he said a Jerry Maguire line of like, Julio completes me or some joke about their matchup. And Julio's like, yeah, I don't care. He's like, I don't care. I don't. I don't get motivated by that. I get my teammates.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he doesn't. Well, okay, so Ted Ginn.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

We. Can you touch on Ted Ginn, to me is John Brown with worse hands. Of course, I'm not giving him John Brown's catching ability, but he's a guy that you have. You can have some confidence starting because at least a few times a game, Cam Newton's going to take the deep shot. It. Does it connect? Maybe. We. We saw John Brown do it last night and against Atlanta. I don't see a reason why it can't happen at least once. So Ted Ginn isn't. He's an okay home run flex. Home run start for me. Perfect.

[Jason Moore]

Then Matt Ryan, you get in the sit down this week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Matt Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. And anything else there? Can we move on to the next matchup?

[Andy Holloway]

That's all I see.

[Mike Wright]

Are you guys going to start Greg Olson?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. He's all right. Titans at the New York Jets. Jets are favored by a touchdown in this game. Marcus Mariota is coming off a huge game, especially on the ground. Can you play Marcus Mariota this week? And if so, who would you play him over?

[Mike Wright]

If you. It's. This comes down to as maybe it's. I'm being silly. I don't know if Darrell Rivas plays, which it sounded yesterday, like he is trending to Play. He was on the field. He had the red no contact jersey on, but he was out there. So I believe that speaks very positive to his ability or his chance to play on Sunday and clear the protocol. If Reivis is playing. I don't stream Mariota. I think there's much better options available.

[Andy Holloway]

There's. Yeah, I think Mariota can have a fine week. I really do. I'm not worried about him. But from a fantasy football perspective, in the playoffs, you see him have big games and have lousy games. There are so many options that I would rather start over Mariota this week. Hoyer, I would rather start Hoyer. I would rather start Alex Smith. Winston, Alex Smith, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Blake Borrells, Tyrod Taylor, all those guys. I would have more confidence starting even though Alex Smith I don't think has the same ceiling that Mario has. But Mariota's floor is a terrible rookie game against a good defense that he goes out and gives you six points from the quarterback. You're not going to get that from Alex Smith.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so are you buying into, you know, you know, Kendall Wright didn't practice. I don't think he's playing. You guys thought he would play hurt. I think he won't play.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

If he doesn't. Hypothetically.

[Andy Holloway]

Delaney Walker.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Delaney Walker is the answer. We know he's basically a wide receiver. What about Doriel Green, Beckham? It gives him a boost with no Kendall. Right.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, the, the hard thing is about Beckham just being the rookie we did seem get involved last week.

[Jason Moore]

However, he had a game two weeks ago where wide receivers caught five passes in the whole game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And The Titans scored 40 points or so last week, so.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Green Beckham got involved. I mean, if they're. And they're not going to put up those amount of points on the, on the jets this weekend. So he is a. He is a praying spray type player if you want to put him in your lineup. But I'm not going to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, me too.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. So you're not starting a running back from Tennessee. Are you confident with Chris Ivory because of the way this game flow is likely to go where they're leading. Ivory should be on the field. We talked about this on the last show where 27 of the.25 of the 27 plays or something in the fourth quarter were pass play. So Powell saw a lot of the field in their comeback attempt against the Giants. Thoughts on Chris Ivory?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we all have him pretty much as a low RB one. You know, he's. He's in that 10 to 13 range for us as a running back. That's exactly what I expect him to do. I'm if he's on my roster, he's probably almost definitely.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's playing for me. As far as Powell, if you're in a ppr, I'll flex Powell. I think he'll still get some catches and do some work in the game, but he's not a full confidence start.

[Jason Moore]

Raiders at the Broncos they head to Denver. Denver's a heavy favorite in this game. This is the alert for all Derek Carr owners. Hopefully have a good streaming option because I just wouldn't touch him in this matchup. We've talked about it all year long, but the Broncos have given up one touchdown to wide receivers on the season. Number one pass defense by far. Number five rush defense.

[Mike Wright]

I believe that one touchdown was that.

[Jason Moore]

It was to Crabtree maybe.

[Mike Wright]

Was that the. Was it to the car?

[Jason Moore]

It was to car, yeah. So you're saying there's a chance he gets one touchdown to a wide receiver. That's pretty optimistic.

[Mike Wright]

So what are my chances?

[Jason Moore]

The real hard part about this, and I've gotten so many questions this week from listeners, it's still the Cooper Crabtree, would you start them over? You know, another handful of guys that I have a hard time saying, yeah, I'd rather play Golden Tate over Amari Cooper. You know, I'd rather, yeah, I'm going to go throw out, you know, Tyler Lockett over Michael Crabtree. Those are the, those are hard things to decide. Not Lockett where I'm saying even if they don't score a touchdown, isn't there some baseline of catches there that we can be okay with?

[Andy Holloway]

Not really. Well, I'm just saying, I mean you are right. I would, I would start them over. Lock it. But the truth is it's not like they give up a bunch of yards either. You know what I mean? It's the Broncos D against the wide receivers is excellent. And yes, I mean we don't know the future. Carr could go and have seriously, seriously nobody. Well, you two don't. I have to pretend the car could go and have a game that nobody's had against Denver this year. I mean he could do it. But I'm not going to say that he's the one that's going to come in and do what other guys.

[Jason Moore]

Brady had a good game against them.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy wise. That's period, end of end of list.

[Mike Wright]

Amari Cooper 4 for 47 last time against Denver and that was at Home.

[Jason Moore]

So we're just not excited, you know.

[Mike Wright]

Crabtree was 4 for 54. He did not have the touchdown. Who. Or was it. Maybe it was Teddy Bridgewater.

[Jason Moore]

You might have been right. I don't remember.

[Andy Holloway]

It was Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy Bridgewater put up 251 against them, so.

[Mike Wright]

Of course he did. Because that Teddy Bridgewater, he rises. He's garbage unless he plays a. A top passing defense. So there's a hot, hot, fancy tip.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, I've got a sneaky, gross start I want you guys. All right.

[Mike Wright]

His name is Booger.

[Andy Holloway]

His name is Booger. This is a guy who I once.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if I liked it. I hated it.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Once.

[Jason Moore]

It's Friday. It's a Friday joke.

[Andy Holloway]

Once upon a time, based on a matchup, I made a gentleman. My start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Don't do it again.

[Andy Holloway]

No, well, I haven't. We've already done our starts of the week. But I'm just saying. I'm just saying there's a change at quarterback. The listeners don't know who I'm talking about yet.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, they do.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, let's. Let's. Okay, if you're listening, try to guess who I'm talking about. I'll give hints narrowing it down here. He plays for the Oakland Raider or. I'm sorry. He plays for the Broncos. He's playing against the Raiders. He's playing on the Broncos. He is a pass catcher. He is a tight end.

[Jason Moore]

He is not eligible for Social Security.

[Andy Holloway]

Eligible for those. I'm just saying. Owen Daniels. Owen Daniels. You know, ever since Brock Osweilers covering his couch, Brock Osweilers come in, he's throwing to the tight end. Vernon Davis might be missing. You've got hurt running backs, you've got the Oakland D. I'm just saying, maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Is there some, like, drop I can put to just on an island? Like, just separate him from the. Roll your chair to the corner for five minutes.

[Mike Wright]

We should have, like, a beach, you know, just a beach ambiance with some island music.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You're by yourself.

[Jason Moore]

By yourself. You and Revis. All right. Cowboys at the Packers. The packers are favored in this one. Weather shouldn't be an issue, but will the offense, the bipolar offense of the packers be an issue? Because I hate to say it, I like Eddie Lacy.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, we're back.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we're not back. We're just.

[Mike Wright]

You like him. You like him.

[D]

You love him.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, not as much as you, buddy. You have him at 13.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I do. I really don't disagree.

[Jason Moore]

I'm as a 2.

[Andy Holloway]

I would personally like him a little bit more if he had a different matchup, but I do think he's going to get the ball. He is talented. He's got a chip on his shoulder. Now. The problem is the defense he's playing against. I probably have him a little bit too high at 13. I mean, that's a wide. That's a running back to. That's where I expected.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think the Cowboys can score on the packers, and if they can't score on the packers, this game is going to be run the clock out with Eddie Lacy, and that's why I like him in this game. Even if the matchup from a yards per carry standpoint isn't great, you know, the Cowboys, their defense is all right. Their defense is all right. They showed up against Kirk Cousins, but I just don't know if it's going to happen in Green Bay.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Sean Lee should get injured about halfway through the game, and that will be great. He is amazing. But listen to this.

[Jason Moore]

Cowboys cornerbacks have gone 510 passing attempts without an interception. That's a lot. That's a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

I doubt they're getting him against Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. I doubt that, too. So the Des Bryant confidence level is. Is low. It is the kind of confidence level that a superstar gets with Matt Castle. I still think he's the. I mean, he's the wide receiver, the pass catcher. I would start from the whole.

[Andy Holloway]

Who would you rather start, DEZ Bryant or Jeremy Macklin?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Jeremy.

[Mike Wright]

Jeremy Macklin.

[Jason Moore]

If I'd like leaps, bounds, and rivers.

[Andy Holloway]

That one, to me, is a little bit closer.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[D]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't like Macklin that much this week. I actually just moved because of what we were talking about. I don't.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't think that that was something that was gonna. I thought that was, like, perspective. That wasn't something that was gonna move the needle on a guy that has, like 200 something yards in the last two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

I tuned out because I wanted to verify a reference I was gonna drop that was gonna be really good. But now we got to move on.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we did.

[Mike Wright]

What's he saying? DEZ Bryant.

[Jason Moore]

He was saying Des Bryant or Macklin is close.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And I just don't think it's. It's close.

[Mike Wright]

Is Los Angeles close to New York City?

[Jason Moore]

New York City, I think.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I don't. I don't. I'm at a loss to think that you guys actually think that Macklin and Des are going to be separated from the east as to the west.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I got lots of reasons to think that.

[Andy Holloway]

You've got Des Bryant. What's his baseline of catches?

[Jason Moore]

I got them at 19 and 39.

[Mike Wright]

What's.

[Jason Moore]

That's the 2 difference. That's the difference.

[Mike Wright]

What's the floor for Dez Bryan and catches?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, zero. Yeah, it was zero through three and a half quarters or something last game.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he. He has two games over 50 yards.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the problem. This is like I have Macklin as a two as a night. Number 19. Tremendous, tremendous upside against the bad defense at home. On fire. Alex Smith driving the ball downfield. What's the upside for Des Bryant?

[Andy Holloway]

Touchdown. Red zone. Red zone.

[Jason Moore]

Looks a maybe.

[Mike Wright]

Can they get to the red zone?

[Jason Moore]

How many touchdowns does he have on the year?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, he missed the majority of the year, but he's got two.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, this is just kind of a fruitless argument and not very helpful because we're just arguing about how much we like one more than the other and it's just.

[D]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Start Jeremy Macklin. Start Ty Hilton. Golden Tate Devonte Parker, Brandon Cooks, Michael Floyd. All above.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so Michael Floyd played yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

We got to hash this out. How close do you see Des Bryant finishing in points compared to Jeremy Macklin?

[Jason Moore]

I think that Macklin will have him beat by at least six points.

[Andy Holloway]

I will take that Water bet.

[D]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Water bet.

[Jason Moore]

Stupid bet, but whatever.

[Mike Wright]

That's how you get two people to agree to water bet.

[Jason Moore]

I could tell what you were doing the whole time. All right. The New England Patriots head to Houston to take on the Texans. The Brady Hoyer reunion. Nobody's excited about that, huh? No, no, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, J.J. watt, that wasn't in our news, but J.J. watt broke his hand at practice. He's going to be playing.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think it was news to J.J. watt. I think he just wrapped it up and went back on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

He missed the practice, so. No, he didn't.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he got it casted.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And he'll play.

[Andy Holloway]

He will.

[Jason Moore]

He will. He's going to play. He'll be. He'll be okay. You know, he may not, you know, if they. If he puts the arms up to catch an interception, that might be hard. That might not happen. But yes, J.J. watt did get injured in practice this week. I think a lot of people want to know what the Texans defense can do. They've been playing very well. They did lose last week. They gave up three touchdowns to Tyrod Taylor. So they've been a little up and down. If the pass rush can get to Brady and if Brady doesn't have reliable weapons. We saw Lafeld drop passes. We saw late drops from some of those key targets. And if Gronk isn't on the field, is it going to be James White? Is it going to. Who's going to fill in the gap there?

[Mike Wright]

I still have strong confidence in Amendola. White is an enigma, man. I don't. I don't know if I would trust him. I can understand if you're in a situation of.

[Jason Moore]

Let's say you're white or Blunt.

[Mike Wright]

Blunt.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go white.

[Jason Moore]

I would go white. I'm done.

[Mike Wright]

Standard or no, what scoring format.

[Andy Holloway]

That does make a difference. That does. I think you've got the. Any. Any form of ppr, half or full. I'm going white.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Standard. I'm going blunt because I don't expect White to get, you know, a ton of yard. You know, I expect both of these guys to get about 50 yards. Touchdowns are probably about the same. It's just a matter of who's going to get. If you get points for catches, he's going to get a.

[Mike Wright]

The problem.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go with White.

[Mike Wright]

The problem with both of Blunt and White is the same that it will has always been when it was not. Dion Lewis is the running back is both these guys could get two touches and that's it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's hard to start either guy.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I'm. Blunt has been so bad for three straight weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

The higher upside guy is clearly white.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So, I mean, if you're in a playoffs and you're in a pinch where you've got to start one of these guys, either one could put up zero.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So the only thing you're caring about is the ceiling, and that's going to be White. So that's really.

[Mike Wright]

I can. I like that.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so deeper, deeper leagues. You're starting a running back from the Houston Texans and his name is.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no, that's his name.

[Andy Holloway]

That is. Good answer, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

That's the name.

[Andy Holloway]

That is the name.

[Mike Wright]

Is it Polk?

[Jason Moore]

That's. I'm asking you.

[Andy Holloway]

I think if I'm going to start somebody.

[Jason Moore]

Last week it was Chris Polk. He was 12 for 61 and he caught one pass. Caught a touchdown pass, though, so that's hard to rely on. You know, Grimes is getting six, seven, five carries a week.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's got to be Polk because we have to assume here that you're going to be down in the game. And if you're down in the game, Polk is the better pass catcher. You don't think so to.

[Jason Moore]

Now I'm not going to. I'm not going to assume they're going to be down at home. The game line is only three points. Their defense has been playing pretty good and we saw what happened last week with Philadelphia and I would go with.

[Mike Wright]

I'd still go with Blue.

[Jason Moore]

I think I'm going to go with.

[Mike Wright]

Blue because of the history of it, of it being him. Could they make was last week a transition to Polk? Very well could be but I'm just going to stick with the history of blue. So that's.

[Jason Moore]

Blue has had that times where they all of a sudden he's got a game with four carries and then he comes back, he's got 37 carries the next week or something like that. So anybody else you need to talk about? Chandler, you're starting him if Gronk is out?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Would you start him over Jordan Reed or Travis Kelsey?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Anybody else you want to talk about in this game? We got one more matchup and then we got the daily dose.

[Mike Wright]

Shorts and Washington are okay. Lower end starts. I don't have a problem with that.

[Jason Moore]

Preference with one direction or the other though, man.

[Mike Wright]

It would probably, I guess. Nope, nope. I can't make a case for one or the other. Sorry.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The Giants and the Dolphins on Monday Night Football. This game is basically a pick them game. It's in Miami. The Giants have had some struggles. They're very up and down. You can count on Odell Beckham, but can you count on any other offensive player on that team?

[Andy Holloway]

Eli Manning?

[Jason Moore]

Including Eli.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you can count on Eli. I would start Eli over some of the other options.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Because in part of Odell Beckham, honestly, after, after Eli and odb, I think you're looking at. I mean I would think will tie is as good an option as I fighter as anyone else. I mean I'm not starting any of the running backs. If you have to start one, you know, I guess you go with the standard PPR question of you know, Vereen versus but I mean you're not, you're in the playoffs. The people listening are in the playoffs and they didn't get to the playoffs with the Giants backfield so you know.

[Jason Moore]

But they might have got there with the Dolphins backfield. Lamar Miller.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Back with 20 plus carries last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. You gotta, you gotta go full confidence with Lamar Miller.

[Jason Moore]

Landry had a Tough game. But they only threw for 86 yards. I think that changes. The Giants have given up 250 plus and 83% of their games. The Landry Parker storyline. I'm very, you know, I've told a lot of people flex Devonte Parker and.

[Mike Wright]

I do not blame you at all. We Matthews, we saw him be a very productive fantasy player in this system and he is out because of his broken ribs. Devonte Parker is, dare I say, a more talented player than Richard Matthews as was evidenced in one play. Yeah, he jumped on the touchdown catch so high.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And yeah, he had moon shoes on. So I love, I love that as a, as a sleeper pick who would.

[Andy Holloway]

Parker.

[Jason Moore]

He'd be quite the sleeper pick for Monday Night Football. You'd bring him in there into the week glory game.

[Andy Holloway]

We've recommended him to a lot of people. Mike, who do you like better? Between Jarvis Landry and devontae Parker, standard score.

[Mike Wright]

I'll still go with Landry. Landry's been a target vacuum for almost the entire season, so I will stick with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Good.

[Mike Wright]

But I think Parker is a. I like.

[Jason Moore]

Interesting play. I like. All right, that does it for fantasy forecast. Let's take a few minutes. Let's get into the daily fantasy sports and discuss some of the guys that our good friend Chris Meaney likes for this upcoming week. Number 14.

[Andy Holloway]

The Daily Dose.

[Mike Wright]

After a little bit of a hiatus from our favorite part of the show because he is an adorable man, Chris Meaney from the Fantasy Sports Network is back to drop some daily fantasy, some daily fantasy knowledge with us and the Foot Clan. How are you doing, Chris?

[D]

You guys are so sweet to me. I miss you guys.

[Mike Wright]

How was your. Your non Thanksgiving break? Because up there in Canada, you guys don't get the sweetness.

[Jason Moore]

They don't celebrate Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

Not like America does.

[D]

No, not like America at all. Ours is in October. But we love it just because there's so much football. So we're just like, yeah, football all the time. Last week was okay to me.

[Jason Moore]

What's that special football day.

[D]

Yeah, it's just a football, right. For us. We're just like. We love the American Thanksgiving for plenty of reasons, I suppose, but football obviously the big one. You get to three games which is plus I did okay last week. I had not James White, but Brandon Bolden and I still did okay. So it's tough to pick which New England running back is going to be the guy. But I actually think it's now it's James White, but I could be wrong.

[Mike Wright]

So let's Start at the top then before we get into the specials like James White, the quarterback position. Who are you paying up for or is there a lower tier guy you like this week?

[D]

I think it's again pretty safe with Cam. My favorite quarterback is Big Ben. Ben Roethlisberger. I just love that offense so much. The Steelers are just, it just seems like single week they put up about 30 points. I know last week somebody won a million dollars with Ben, Brian Brown, D'Angelo Williams and Steelers D. That's actually unheard of. I've never seen anything like that before. I wouldn't expect that to happen again. But I'm certainly, I want to pay up for Cam Newton. He's just so consistent, averaging 24 fandom points a game. That's tops. I mean Brady's averaging 24.8. I'm not willing to pay for him. I just don't like the offense as much with some of the guys that are dropping balls and he's missing obviously Gronk and Edelman. So I'm willing to pay for Big Ben. On the other side of that, if you want to go Andy Dalton, I can respect that as well. I do think this time around is going to be high scoring. Last time it wasn't. But these two teams have played some high scoring games before in the past. They've also played some tight games as well. So it's a little unpredictable I suppose. But I'm still willing to pay for Big Ben. A lot of people like Tyrod Taylor in a terrific matchup and I understand that as well. Do you want to go him and Sammy. But those are the two quarterbacks certainly. They're just so safe. Cam and Big Ben. Last week in a huge tournament, I rolled out Blaine Gabbard. It worked out late. Again, these just these type of players that Blaine Gabbard, the Alex Smiths, they have okay matchups. They're just a little bit inconsistent. I'm okay with rolling them out in tournaments, but again, for cash, for 50, 50s for safe guys. I just really like Ben. And also I guess I suppose I could give a shout out to James Winston. Everyone always wants a pick up pick on that secondary for the Saints. So Winston, I mean now he's got Austin Sparing Jenkins back. Only played 21 snaps last week, but still second in the team and targets with six. So I like the receiving core there as well and I even like Doug Martin. But those are the quarterbacks that I'm really looking at to pay up for.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's talk running backs. Who are. Must have. Must have guys in your lineup.

[D]

I think it would just be silly not to have LaShawn McCoy in a revenge spot. And you know what? I believe only over the past four weeks, only, only Stewart and Martin have more carries than Lashawn McCoy. This is obviously a game that he really, really wants. He's been vocal all year about how displeased he was for being traded. Chip Kelly this, Chip Kelly that. It's been a lot of talk this week. It's been a lot of talk all year. The Eagles struggle against running backs. I expect Lashawn McCoy actually to have a really good day. Even though they've only given up five rushing touchdowns are still like top 10 in rushing yards again. So I like Michael McCoy, I like Doug Martin, but again, some of these backs that you can just, you can, if you get them, you can afford higher end wide receivers and quarterbacks. There's a few of them. I like TJ Yeldin finally. This guy got in the end zone last week against, you know, he finally got a touchdown against Tennessee this week. He gets the Colts. He's just been consistent all year. I mean, you look at four receptions last week, before that, four, three, five, three. So he's getting the catches. He's getting about 50 to 70 yards here and there. So if he can just find the end zone again, I think he can return value at 6, 4. Sean Drone is another guy, especially in the big salad.

[Mike Wright]

That's what we call him here, the big salad. You, you, please, please spread that around. Canada.

[Jason Moore]

Nice.

[D]

Yeah, he's just consistent. I mean, he's getting catches, right? I mean, he's not, he's not blowing anybody away on the ground with his rushing yards. I mean, 36, 51, 37, 58 in the past couple, but again, five catches. Five catches, eight catches, four catches. So he's a guy that I know Pat and I like a lot. Sean Drone is. There he is. There he is. Have you heard that? He's just. He's a consistent guy. He's getting catches. I mean, Blaine Gabbard is dumping off to him. So if he's going to get five or six catches every game, chip in for 50 yards. If he can just find the end zone again, then there you go at $6,500. You're laughing.

[Mike Wright]

Are you going to take a gamble on Eddie Lacy? We know he was benched for being out past his curfew, his grown man curfew, but the talk is that that may have been rectified to him. Regaining his position as the top back. Are you going to. Are you going to risk him in a cash game this week?

[D]

No, I can't play him. Guys like Eddie Lacey, DeMarco Murray, you just can't play them in cash games. You're just. Just way too inconsistent. I get it. Mike McCarthy says Eddie Lacy looks rejuvenated. He expects a good week of practice. He expects him to be productive this weekend. But can you really trust that is really hard to trust. But in a big tournament play, sure, why not? You can roll them out in a huge, huge tourney, but in a cash in a 50. 50 head to heads. There's no way I'm trusting Eddie Lacy.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's talk some wide receivers. Wide receivers, the guys that you. You're paying up for. Are you. Are you buying Antonio Brown? You like Big Ben?

[D]

Yeah, absolutely. I have a lineup with Ben Bryant and Brown. I love Brown. How could you not like Brown? I mean, this guy is just so consistent, especially with Big Ben as his quarterback. He's had big games against the Bengals this year. He had a touchdown last year to 100 yard games against them. Double digit targets in both of them. So he gets a lot of play. I'm in on Ben. I'm down on Julio. Jones doesn't have a great matchup this week. He's kind of been really mediocre over the past few. So if you can't really get Beckham and Brown in one lineup, I want Brown and another one. I want Beckham. It's really hard to go both of them. But I also, and I failed to mention I do like the Russell Wilson, maybe Baldwin sack. I know they've been hot lately. Maybe people will be on that. But it's another nice matchup. Baltimore gives up fantasy points. Top 10 to quarterbacks, top five to wide receivers. So I like both of those guys as well. What about and Pat loves Seattle D. Lock it in.

[Jason Moore]

Of course.

[D]

Right? No, with locket. Oh, with lock it. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

We set the. The pick six at over under at one and a half for Seattle. What are you guys taking?

[D]

Yeah, over under pick six for one and a half for Seattle. Pat over, over. He over without hesitation.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we're over two. So a guy that we like, he was a first round ride wide receiver pick. He's finally getting his chance. Devonte Parker. Are you doing anything with lineups for Devonte Parker?

[D]

Absolutely. I like Parker a lot. He was. I played him in a couple contests last week. He's only 5, 9 against the Giants for sure. I Mean, he didn't get as many targets as I wanted him to get last week, but again, seven catches in the past two weeks. You know, 80 yards and a touchdown. The 163 and a touchdown. The other one. And a terrific grab in the end zone, too. This guy's a really, really talented player. And I remember listening to you guys earlier in the year talk about how he could be last year's Odell Beckham Jr. A guy who suffered an injury, missed the first few weeks, takes a little bit of time to learn the playbook, get in there, get a feel. So, I mean, I like him a lot at that price point for sure.

[Mike Wright]

And let's. Let's wrap it up with some tight ends. What are you doing to fill that void now that the man Rob Gronkowski is out? He's very unlikely to return this week. What are you doing there?

[D]

Yeah, the tight end position. I mean, again, it's safe with Greg Olson. He's always really safe. You're going to pay up for him.

[Jason Moore]

Six.

[D]

Six. You know, I do like Travis Kelce. I just think San Diego is just not a great secondary. On the flip side of that, I still like Macklin. People are not giving Macklin enough love because of Verrack, but, I mean, Macklin has been really good the past two weeks. Another guy. Scott Chandler is another guy. I'm going to go to $5,800. Why not? He's still got a lot of looks with Brady. I do like Austin, sparing Jenkins and maybe just kind of under the radar guy. And it's interest. We'll see what some FanDuel. If you check out the FanDuel show, we talk about some ownership numbers on Friday. So check that out on our YouTube page. But I like Ty. I like this tie guy from the Giants. Yeah, I mean, why not? He's getting a lot of looks. You know, over the past three weeks. This guy's got 14 catches, 70 yards, 74, 56, close to 20 targets over the last three weeks. The only thing is he hasn't been able to find the end zone. So I'm going to go tie.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Just a quick question to wrap it up. Would you go tie or would you go Wilson in wait in Seattle?

[D]

Oh, Luke. Canadian boy. Is that a Canadian question for me?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, just a special for our friends of the North.

[D]

Yes, I think I would go tie. I really do. I think there's this more safe Luke. I don't know. I'm not a huge fan. You get the.

[Jason Moore]

He's got a lot of Ls in his name, though. Yeah, he's got a ton of Ls in.

[Mike Wright]

Can you explain the double Ls to us? We do not understand it.

[D]

Yes, yes, I know the Double L will.

[Jason Moore]

Canadian.

[D]

I would go. I would go tie in that situation for sure. But I do like Russell Wilson. He's been really hot lately. In the last three games, 11 touchdowns, just shy of a thousand yards, no interceptions, 100 on the ground, a rushing touchdown. So if you do want to go a Seattle stack, it could be a contrarian play for sure if you plug in Double L Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

It's a big thank you to Chris Meaney from the Fantasy Sports Network.

[Jason Moore]

You say we got Nando lined up for next week. Yeah, he better bring it nice.

[D]

And he's pumped. He told me. I was there with him last week. We were watching some football. He said he's going to go on the Fantasy Footballers and he couldn't be more happy and not.

[Mike Wright]

And then we got to get Pat back on, too. So tell Pat that he's to be expecting a phone call. We're just.

[Jason Moore]

We're just going to invite your entire.

[Mike Wright]

Channel onto our show.

[D]

Yeah, well, we love you on the channel, Pat. They said expect a phone call in the future. They want you on me. No, you don't want any part of me.

[Mike Wright]

So big shout out. Chris Meaney, thank you so much and we'll talk to you next week, man.

[D]

No problem, guys. Everybody, good luck, Fantasy football playoff time and good luck with your picks this weekend. Thanks for having me.

[Jason Moore]

All right, thanks again to Chris Meaney for joining us on the show. Talking some dfs. You know, we missed him. We missed him and I'm glad he's back.

[Mike Wright]

There was a hole.

[Jason Moore]

Be honest. Yes, it's back.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Pat and Pat.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're. Even though this shows a little longer. We're gonna. We're gonna answer some questions. Listen. Listeners have sent in questions for this week. We think they're pretty important, so we want to answer some of those.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

If you have a question. Oh, it's still going. That's. It's really impressive after all the cheering you did at the Cardinal game.

[Mike Wright]

I felt like a balloon just going down.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, that's how we feel about you. The mailbag. You want to submit a question, you go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click the submit a question button in the upper right hand corner. You can also call us, leave us a voicemail question. We're gonna answer a couple voicemail questions. The phone Number there is 302464. TFFB. Let's answer a couple of those as soon as I can pull them up.

[Mike Wright]

So, you know, if you call that number sometimes. Hey, guys, this is Matt in Minnesota here. Love your show. You guys are great. Question is this weekend I have to choose a receiver here. I need to start and I have a Vincent. Was it Jackson here of Tampa Bay or Ty Hilton of the Colts? Not sure which will be better. What's your advice? Thanks, I appreciate it.

[Jason Moore]

Ooh, that's a close one.

[Mike Wright]

That is.

[Jason Moore]

I have Vincent Jackson at 24. I have Hilton at 20, but you guys have them kind of in a different place. Jason has ty Hilton at 29. Mike, you have him at 32. So that bumps him down. Consensus wise, we have Jackson at 19, Hilton at 25.

[Mike Wright]

I like it.

[Andy Holloway]

I would agree with that. Even if Vincent Jackson doesn't get the score, he's been catching such long passes that I think he's going to be safer.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's go ahead and hit another voicemail question right now.

[E]

Salutations, fantasy footballers. This is Jared. I just wanted to call in and say thank you for the show. The fantasy treats that I have gleaned from listening to the fantasy footballers have boosted me to the playoffs in four leagues, despite the fact that I started 0 and 4 in one league and I'm now third, proving that everything that has happened can happen again in reverse. My question today is I have DEZ Bryant in three of those leagues and I want to know, is he going to lose me my league if I play him, or do I play players like Marty McBride, Eric Decker, Doug Baldwin, Doug Martin, Lamar Miller, John Brown? Am I better off playing those type of players? Or do I stick with DEZ and hope that he gives me one or two great games? Thank you. And one more note. Thank you for the entertaining value of the podcast. The show has far reaching effect. My family knows that on Sunday afternoons when I break out in a David.

[D]

Johnson.

[E]

They know that that moment of really pure insanity was inspired by the fantasy footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

Well done.

[E]

Thanks again for being one of the best podcasts out there and the biggest resource and reason that I am being successful in this crazy year of fantasy football. Have a great day.

[Andy Holloway]

Well done.

[Jason Moore]

That was a pretty good David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll answer this question.

[Jason Moore]

I was not a bad David Johnson and he followed through with the.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to do that. I'll answer this question since I just had Dez Bryant, as you know, higher than you. 2.

[Jason Moore]

Number one this week right.

[Andy Holloway]

No. The answer to this question is yes. He will lose you your championship weeks here and all of the guys that you named in your list. I would start over DEZ Bryant. So I think my. My bet is just as much an indication on Jeremy Macklin this week as it is on desk.

[Mike Wright]

Agreed. Everyone listed right there. I would start over Des Bryant without any question.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Jason in San Diego wants to know week 14, should he start Ty. I'm sorry. TJ Yelden against Indianapolis or Todd Gurley against Detroit? You know what? I'm going to go with TJ Eldon.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Todd Gurley. I believe that with the change of the offensive coordinator, they're going to give him the ball enough. And even though it's a Lions matchup, if you want to bet on one of these guys getting in the end zone, you have to go with Gurley. That's what I would do.

[Mike Wright]

End zone, yes. But better fantasy game. I would go with Yielden.

[Jason Moore]

Mike has Gurley, the lowest of us.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got him in the 20s, right?

[Jason Moore]

27. All right, Ian in New Hampshire in this week. Do I start? Oh, look, Ty Hilton comes up again. Hilton at Jacksonville, Allen Hearns against the Colts, or C.J. anderson against Oakland. I'm going to throw this out there. Some news broke during the show. Alan Hearns is probable for the game on Sunday.

[D]

That's my boy.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think C.J. anderson is going to be listed as probable for Sunday.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he will be.

[Jason Moore]

I would start Ty Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

And a probable tag for Alan Hearns means that he is probably in my lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

I concur. And that would be who I would go with.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Ethan in Detroit. Actually, this says Ethan is Detroit.

[Andy Holloway]

Ethan is Detroit.

[Jason Moore]

So Detroit.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa.

[Jason Moore]

Sweet show, guys. Devonta Freeman is going up against the Panthers this week. Should I start Frank Gore against the Jags instead of him?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

I say no.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No. Both guys are going to finish probably near each other, but the baseline, you could have a bad game from Frank Gore that you're not going to get from Freeman. He just touches the ball too much, gets it through the air.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree with that. So that will do it for today's show. Good luck this weekend in your Week 14 matchups, your playoff battles. Mike and I are facing off in a huge matchup. And the winner of our battle plays the number one seed, the Ingramless. The Ingramless Jason Moore. And so it will be an exciting couple weeks filled with interdispersed depression.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, it was. It was not the best start for my team last week with Larry Fitzgerald. Last night. Oh, did I say last week? Yeah, last night. We're already moving on with Larry, and I did have the cat man, the Arizona kicker, so he came through with a decent amount of points, but I was not. I wasn't pleased. I'll say that.

[Jason Moore]

Long way to go. Long way to go. Thanks for listening. We'll be back. Check out the website, the fantasy footballers.com we'll see you on Monday.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.