
Fantasy Football Podcast for December 22, 2015. The Fantasy Footballers are back again and talking fantasy football for Week 16 and the waiver wire. The Fantasy Footballers are back and getting you ready for your CHAMPIONSHIP games and semi-final matchup
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Andy Holloway
Hey, Foot Clan, thanks for joining us on a great 2015 season. Just wanted to take a quick second and thank all the sponsors that have helped support this show. We are an independent podcast and we are supported solely by our sponsors and by you, the listeners on jointhefoot.com our fantasy football community. It's been a very fun year. We're going to keep it going. Let's get you your fantasy titles.
Jason Moore
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts and Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Andy Holloway
Welcome in, welcome in. It's our normal intro. You can't, you know, show the unicorn every day.
Mike Wright
Well, there's, there's a mystique of the greatness. That was the intro for yesterday's show and you gotta let that rest as a one time, a one off.
Andy Holloway
I greatly underestimated the impact that that intro would have on our Twitter feed. That went over very well. People enjoyed that, so that was a lot of fun. We are a two man band again today. This is Andy Holloway joined by Mike the fantasy Hitman. Right.
Mike Wright
Hello.
Andy Holloway
Jason is unfortunately ill.
Mike Wright
He's disturbed. He is down with the sickness.
Andy Holloway
I think he put all of his kind of, you know, you know, your immune system can go down. High stress situations. I think all last week his paranoia about losing to me got the better of him. He had nothing left.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he was on full tilt for at least half the week.
Andy Holloway
It was disturbing to say the least.
Mike Wright
It was entertaining to watch.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Yeah. I won't get into it too much, but let's just say he was, he was mentally unstable. Is that fair? More than normal?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
Yes. And now it is, it is turned into a physical manifestation.
Andy Holloway
Right? Yeah. So he's home ill and we told him don't come into the studio because we don't want none of that before Christmas. We don't want none of that. So we've got a good show for you today. This is our Tuesday show, our waiver wire show. We've got a ton of news and notes. You need to know what's going on so that you can prepare for your championship game or your third place game or some of you are in the semis with the week 17 games. So we've got it all. We got our streaming quarterbacks today. We have, we've got a good show.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm very, very excited to talk about waivers.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, waivers will be fun. And you can check us out on Twitter @The FF Ballers, visit our YouTube page and subscribe to the channel. We will have content all year round, so we will not be stopping. When other podcasts may say, hey, I need a. A six month break from football, we say, no, you do not. You need a zero month break from football.
Mike Wright
If football could go year round, the world would be a better place.
Andy Holloway
More peace on earth, goodwill to war.
Mike Wright
I'm not sure.
Andy Holloway
I'm not sure peace on earth is the right theme with the Norman Odell Beckham Jr. Situation. People are threatening people with bats, Mike.
Mike Wright
Yeah, the, the funniest thing I saw in that yesterday was immediately somebody Panthers bat Twitter account and was tweeting out apologies to Odo Beckham as the bat. It was very funny.
Andy Holloway
I'm just surprised we're here today. We should be ill after losing one of our favorite players and one of the best players in football yesterday, Tyrann Matthew.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
And yeah, we've been Cardinal fans.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I was going to get into my bad beat but let's, let's do the quick question first.
Andy Holloway
All right. Quick question of the day. There are two of them.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
I'll just go with both. One. Mike, this should be an easy one for you, right? How many touchdowns will Doug Baldwin catch this week? The only possible answers are two or three.
Mike Wright
So two or more.
Andy Holloway
That's the only options.
Mike Wright
You gotta. Rams gotta go with two.
Andy Holloway
Gotta go with two. He's been incredible. Thirteen on the year 10 in the past four weeks. That's what it is. Two, three. Two, three.
Mike Wright
We normally, we normally say stay in the flames with Doug Baldwin on this situation.
Andy Holloway
You'll burn yourself.
Mike Wright
These aren't the flames. You are full on Doctor of the Sun. You're no, you're Dr. Strangelove and you have climbed upon that nuclear bomb. You are waving your cowboy hat in the air and you are riding and screaming to a championship.
Andy Holloway
I mean he might bring some people a title on the back of Doug Baldwin.
Mike Wright
He is. That's happening.
Andy Holloway
All right. So you had one too. You prepared one.
Mike Wright
Yes, my quick question of the day. Ah, this is more of like a trivia.
Andy Holloway
Sure.
Mike Wright
Type of a thing for the. The listeners. I have been a top tight end. Top 10 tight end the last three weeks and I'm only owned in 13% of leagues.
Andy Holloway
I'll give some people the chance to think about that for a second.
Mike Wright
A top 10 tight end the last three weeks.
Andy Holloway
Is it Jimmy Graham?
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
Is it Jeremy Shockey?
Mike Wright
Oh, Jeremy Shockey. That was. That takes me back.
Andy Holloway
I know who it is.
Mike Wright
Go, go ahead. Let the. It is.
Andy Holloway
Will tie the tie fighter.
Mike Wright
Absolutely. And I especially wanted to point him out at the top here With a. An impending suspension for Odell Beckham will tie. If you need a tight end this, this week, we'll talk about him a little bit later. Sneaky. Sneaky could be very, very sneaky.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And you should be able to get him because I just don't think there haven't been enough time to process what he's doing. And yeah, top 10 tight end three weeks in a row and far less.
Mike Wright
People scrambling to the waiver wire. Yep.
Andy Holloway
Yep. So, all right. Every week we like to read a review from the listeners. Your reviews on itunes, on Stitcher, wherever you're listening. They help make this show what it is and we really appreciate them. It's been actually very humbling and awesome to see how many people have had success and for me have come back from kind of bad starts to the season to ride their way all the way into title games or into the semifinals.
Mike Wright
So I heard ride the whale.
Andy Holloway
You heard ride the whale. It's been really encouraging for me to hear people ride the whale is that I don't. I'm trying to translate that into something relevant for fantasy and I just can't do it.
Mike Wright
I'm just imagining somebody riding a whale to a fantasy championship.
Andy Holloway
Okay, well, we'll get somebody to Photoshop that for your entertainment. So let's go ahead and read, run, read a review today.
Jason Moore
Review a source, Rex.
Mike Wright
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Andy Holloway
Yeah, I was gonna say the word fantasy was in there a lot.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And sounds like you're doing well, so thanks for that. Kane the Able, we appreciate your review. Let's go and get into the news.
Jason Moore
News and notes from around.
Andy Holloway
All right. There is a lot of news. And whenever there's a lot of news, I want to cover it both fast and thoroughly so that, you know, it's impossible to do both. But let's talk about Oda Beckham Jr.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
That's the breaking big time news.
Mike Wright
We might have to linger on this for a little bit because I got.
Andy Holloway
That's fine.
Mike Wright
I got some talking to do.
Andy Holloway
Well, let's do that then, because Oda Beckham Jr. You know, we said yesterday on the show likely to be Suspended. The news broke later yesterday. Suspended for one game. The. The news on the appeal. He's going, going to appeal. That should be handled today or tomorrow at the latest we will know whether he's actually available for that game. My gut tells me he is out. Yeah, I would cannot tolerate.
Mike Wright
I agree. You, you got to, if you're an owner of Beckham owner, you need to be prepared that he's going to be out. And generally we're a very fantasy focused show. But I was watching after the game last night, Monday night, after the Monday night game where Ray Lewis, Steve Young, Trent Dilfer, these guys, they all always do a wrap up and I like, I like those guys. I like the banter between the four of them generally. But they started talking about Odell Beckham last night and it was Ray Lewis saying he's. He regularly talks to Beckham, says this is not who Odell Beckham is as a person. That, you know, this is not who him as a guy, as a person, as his character. And then he launches into how he's very disappointed with the Giants that his teammates did not come to his aid, that his coach did not come to his aid. And, and then on then Trent Dilfer. Yeah, I mean you, it's on the coach. You gotta, you gotta pull that guy out. It's on his teammates. You got to tell him to settle down, pull him out of that fight. Even Steve Young. Everyone was passing the blame to everyone else except the guy who almost broke Josh Norman's face.
Andy Holloway
No responsibility.
Mike Wright
None whatsoever. And I was just thoroughly disgusted with like, you got to have some accountability. Odo Beckham messed up. Can he fix it? Absolutely.
Andy Holloway
Well, and we said this before the show. If it were, if he wanted to do what's best for his brand name and, and as a human being, genuinely he should have come forward and not blamed other people and just say this. And I understand you might still need to appeal. Right. Because your team needs to win and maybe you have some grounds for appeal. Right. But part of that process can be taking responsibility for ridiculous actions on the field as opposed to being patted on the back and say, look, there are all these outside circumstances that caused me to do this. I mean this is not a one time behavior. This is something we've seen multiple times. You showed me a video right before. I don't know if you retweeted that.
Mike Wright
I did.
Andy Holloway
Where he blows a guy up for no reason whatsoever and then hides behind a referee to, you know, avoid the repercussions of that. He's it doesn't mean he's the bad guy for his life. It means he should come forward as a human being and say, look, I'm responsible for this. I made a wrong decision. It's gonna change on the field. If you come forward with an appeal, with that, maybe it goes your way, maybe it doesn't. But you know what? Moving forward, people are gonna respect the person you are and the player you are.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it just was. It was some ridiculous protecting of a superstar from.
Andy Holloway
That's how it felt.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it very much felt like that.
Andy Holloway
So fantasy wise, if you own him, you're in trouble this week. If you don't own him and you're playing against him, you're probably doing a tap dance somewhere. So this is fantasy football. The polar, you know, emotions of that situation. Now, if you owned him, Mike, after saying all that and he was not suspended, you'd sit him down for, you know, and.
Mike Wright
No, I would not. I would play him.
Andy Holloway
All right?
Mike Wright
I would.
Andy Holloway
I would separate it. You'd separate it out.
Mike Wright
Here's. I mean, I get. I don't blame people if they want to do that. We had that whole situation last year with. With some players, like Adrian Peterson. With Peterson. And if I don't blame people. If you want to do that, that's how you play. Have no problem with that. I just.
Andy Holloway
You mean to sit him down? Yeah, yeah. It's a slippery slope then, because we don't know. I mean, this is not a personal game. This is a statistical game.
Mike Wright
I'll tell you what I. What I've done in our league of record. I got so disgusted with my team, I'm benching all of them.
Andy Holloway
Well, I made sure you could do that.
Mike Wright
All right.
Andy Holloway
Hey, Denard Robinson foot injury, they say is not serious. You need to monitor this this week. I suspect TJ Eldon will be back, but we need to see the reports on whether Robinson or Yelden or somebody else is the running back for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Because even though Denard did not, you know, have an incredible game, he still gave you a baseline last week, didn't get.
Mike Wright
In the end, he took 100% of the running back touches, a very high.
Andy Holloway
Percentage that's up there.
Mike Wright
And he gets to play the Saints next week.
Andy Holloway
If you watched the game last night, Drew Brees played on one foot, had a pretty impressive comeback on one foot. Couldn't finish it, but mostly because, man, they couldn't get in at the end of the half. That was. That was tough to watch in a protective boot. Will have an mri. Drew Brees might not be available next week.
Mike Wright
That would be a. That would be a big loss for people. I mean, against Jacksonville Jaguars, that is a tasty matchup for a championship for a guy that people have been riding. Breeze has been good since he started. Very slow.
Andy Holloway
It's incredible how this works, but you saw it last night. The reason Breeze value is there is because of what happened last night. Their defense couldn't stop them. And the games that the Saints are in, they feel like they're about six quarters long. I don't know how these games, they feel like they last forever because there's just so much passing and the clock stops. So Pete Carroll said that the Seahawks, despite Christine Michael having a very good second half, surprised we didn't have a special Christine Michael episode.
Mike Wright
That's right.
Andy Holloway
I tried to tone it down. They're going to continue with an rbbc. But Michael's the guy you'd want to start, right?
Mike Wright
Yeah. Bryce Brown did have a solid game, but Michael was the guy who was getting the touches. He had the hot hand. Certainly that could switch. But if you're playing the probability, you go with Michael. And as far as a special episode, I mean, the. The Christmas miracle is that people are going to play Christian Michael in their championship week. That speaks for itself. That's all the. That's all the goodness that I need in my soul.
Andy Holloway
Just so I can recap real quick. Christie Michaels. Season started on the Seahawks. Cut by the Seahawks.
Mike Wright
No, no, no, no. He was traded.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Okay. You always remind me of that. It feel okay. It feels like being cut, but all right.
Mike Wright
When you're traded for a seventh round.
Andy Holloway
Pick, that sure feels like being cut on the Seahawks. Traded for a seventh to Dallas. Cut by Dallas. Signed by the practice squad of Washington.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Not worthy of that spot. Cut by Washington. Signed by Seattle. Now playoff relevant.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Andy Holloway
And how much of this does he owe to you? How much of that bonus, what he's getting paid should be sent to your house.
Mike Wright
It's not just me. It's the Kristen Michael Truthers have united.
Andy Holloway
So you and one other guy.
Mike Wright
We did it, America.
Andy Holloway
No, we did it, Steve. Whoever is out there, Steve. It's you and Steve. All right, Cowboys place Melvin Gordon on injured reserve. Cartilage damage to the knee ending his season. Should be okay for next year. It was a really interesting thing to hear him come out about two weeks ago and say, I'll be better next year. Like it wasn't, I'll be better this year. It was I'll be better next year. Because he said he starts slow on every level, whether it was high school, collegiately or whatever. So wait and see. He should be a high pick next year. I mean, not a high pick. He'll be a starting running back selection with upside.
Mike Wright
He will be a value. Melvin Gordon is the list I was talking about of guys to not forget. Melvin Gordon is absolutely on there. He's going to be a guy you can draft probably in the fifth or sixth round who will be a starting running back.
Andy Holloway
And we'll talk in the. As soon as the regular fantasy season is over, we'll be talking about those guys, the undervalued guys that we see projecting going forward, free agency, you know. But right now, Melvin Gordon's out. Danny Woodhead upside play this week, right?
Mike Wright
Danny Woodhead, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Him and Donald Brown will be talking about.
Andy Holloway
So what's next here? We've got Jason Garrett confirming Des Bryant won't be shut down. Okay. So there you go. He did look. I mean he's got more upside if you have a different quarterback in play.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
So if Kellen Moore is out there, does Bryant's okay? Because he's going to target him. Because you know what smart quarterbacks do, they kind of target the giant guy that you can give him the ball in the. Even on a screen pass. He can take it to the house.
Mike Wright
Matt Castle has been very confusing it as the Dallas quarterback not focus firing at DEZ Bryant where when he was in. In Kansas City, I mean he was completely focused. Fired on Dwayne Bowe.
Andy Holloway
That's a smart way to go.
Mike Wright
And he had success. You throw it to your best player.
Andy Holloway
Adrian Peterson, ankle injury. According to Zimmer, he will be all right after the ankle scare. Any concern there? Limited workload. Concern?
Mike Wright
I would say slightly. The bigger concern is he's Sunday Night Football. And if you're an Adrian Peterson owner, you best have a Sunday night option.
Andy Holloway
Asiata.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Or somebody else.
Mike Wright
Somebody who can at least put some points up.
Andy Holloway
What you can do is you can sign one of the. Maybe the Giants, maybe Shane Vereen too, as a. As a super backup option just for an emergency case. It's better to be safe than sorry in that situation. Amendola. Danny Amendola, knee sprain, not going to play. Probably won't miss the real playoffs, but irrelevant for fantasy. Marcus Mariota we talked about yesterday. He's done for the season. Quarterback news for the Colts. Andrew Luck not playing in week 16. Pagano said that Matt Hasselbeck is beat up from the feet up.
Mike Wright
Chuck Pagano is A sound bite machine.
Andy Holloway
He is.
Mike Wright
So that is something you can never take away from him.
Andy Holloway
I agree. So that being said, Matt Hasselbeck, if he's out there, he's a shell and.
Mike Wright
He'S trying to throw to Hilton, you cannot play Hasselbag. I was watching a lot of that game on Sunday.
Andy Holloway
You said he was dead, and then like five minutes later you go, he's back in.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he went full Lazarus and returned to the game. He just. Every time he goes down, I mean, you. You feel bad.
Andy Holloway
So this, this week is not a good week for a receiver for Indianapolis.
Mike Wright
No. No.
Andy Holloway
Okay. So Shady McCoy, tornado Cl week to week. How are you.
Mike Wright
How are you weak to week?
Andy Holloway
I don't know. I don't know how that works. I don't know the knee he. I don't know his knee.
Mike Wright
I'm sure Lashawn McCoy is getting. He's on the phone day and night with Antonio Gates, learning how do you play without an MCL when it is such a big part of what you do?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's impressive. So John Fox has declined to update us on Alshon Jeffrey. This is actually a league record for the most times that he's declined to update us on Alshon Jeffrey for a season. He just broke the record, which is impressive. So if you own him in your annoying coach league, he is number one.
Mike Wright
Thanks, John.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. John Harbaugh said there's no way he's going to banish Buck Allen. After fumbling in week 15. It was his second week in a row. He was banished in the game. He was banished from the score sheet if you're a fantasy owner. But this week they played the Steelers. Do you have any hope for Buck Allen?
Mike Wright
Minimal.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, me too.
Mike Wright
Minimal.
Andy Holloway
Ron Rivera said he's going to play his starters in week 16, which.
Mike Wright
Thanks, Ron.
Andy Holloway
Well, yeah. I mean, people wondered, though, is our New England and Carolina best served to rest them for a couple weeks? We've seen injuries this year that have.
Mike Wright
Been crazy, but Panthers have not locked up the ones. If they win this week, then next week will be a very tough decision for Ron Rivera of go for undefeated or rest because you have the one seed locked up.
Andy Holloway
He may take the temperature of the locker room for that one. That might have a lot to do with whether the players want to go or not.
Mike Wright
I would say he goes for it.
Andy Holloway
I think he probably should.
Mike Wright
I think you.
Andy Holloway
They're on a roll, man. They're on a roll and they're already gonna have a buy. So you're gonna have a week you'd have two weeks off. It's a lot of time to get now, a guy like Jonathan Stewart who's banged up, you might not see him on the field.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I agree with that.
Andy Holloway
And I don't know if you're going to see him this week. Espn, I noticed they're projecting Jonathan Stewart and not Artis Payne and those other guys. I think it'll be Artist Payne. So he's a sneaky guy that you can grab. We'll talk about him here soon. And then the fantasy.
Mike Wright
Oh, the big salad.
Andy Holloway
Big salad.
Mike Wright
Big salad. Sean Drones going for an MRI on his knee. It's. Yeah, I don't think it's looking too good for the salad. So Tavares Cadet is the primary backup in San Francisco.
Andy Holloway
Unbelievable. That's good to know. Yeah, I mean, they got the Bills, the Bills didn't. He couldn't show up last week.
Mike Wright
He caught, I think, four of six targets or so. So PPR maybe.
Andy Holloway
All right. All right. Let's get into the waivers here soon.
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Mike Wright
Sign and dine.
Andy Holloway
Sign and dine. I like that.
Jason Moore
Put me in. Coach, I appreciate.
Andy Holloway
Appreciate you saving me from whatever. Whatever in the world. I was saying to try to intro the drop.
Mike Wright
I saw the plane. The engine's blew out.
Andy Holloway
I don't even know what was taking place. But sign and dine is delightful. So would you sign and dine a Willie Snead? He's back.
Mike Wright
He's back, everybody.
Andy Holloway
10 catches PPR machine.
Mike Wright
10 for 76. He's owned in about half a leagues. And he gets to play Jacksonville.
Andy Holloway
Hopefully with Drew Brees, though, if he's out, that changes the equation.
Mike Wright
Oh, yes. Yeah. If Drew Brees is in, which I. I don't. I don't know. Because I don't know. I think he will be in.
Andy Holloway
That would be the Luke McCown show, right? Is it Luke McCown or Chase Daniel?
Mike Wright
I don't. Or is it.
Andy Holloway
It's got to be. It's got to be.
Mike Wright
Or would they even go to the.
Andy Holloway
Oh, no. Luke McCann is out for the season. Isn't.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I believe. Yeah, they have. Garrett Grayson is the. Their rookie. So would they let him take a couple games? I don't know. I'm not sure who they would turn to.
Andy Holloway
I think the. I was gonna say. I think the message there. Yeah. Grayson would be the next in line because McCown's out for the year, and then it's Flynn behind Grayson, so.
Mike Wright
Matt Flynn.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
That guy is like. He's a cockroach, man. He will not ever go away.
Andy Holloway
At the end of the nuclear holocaust. There is nothing around except for Matt Flynn. That's ridiculous. I don't know why I was thinking Chase Daniel either, because he's in Kansas City. He used to be there. All right, let's. But, yeah, you got to monitor Breeze. I wouldn't feel confident starting streaming Willie Snead unless Breeze was there.
Mike Wright
But if. And these guys are. These are actually important guys for Odell Beckham owners. I mean, if.
Andy Holloway
At the wide receivers.
Mike Wright
Yeah. If Willie Sneed. If Willie Snead is available and Drew Brees is going to play, I think Snead is a great option this week.
Andy Holloway
I'll tell you who my favorite guy is, and it's still Tyler Lockett this week because of his quarterback. You know, there are variables with Willie Snead. Kamar Akin is another guy on our list, but we don't know if it's going to be Jimmy Clausen or. It's going to be Ryan Mallet.
Mike Wright
It's just so weird. Why, why is there even talk of Ryan Mallet? Clausen's been okay.
Andy Holloway
He was very capable last week, so. But Tyler Lockett was 5 for 55 and another touchdown. These are all guys in the 50% range of availability on your waiver wire. Another guy, Ted Ginn Jr. 6 for 85, two touchdowns. Again this week he is, he has.
Mike Wright
Owned in 58% of leagues.
Andy Holloway
So would you rather have lock it or Gin?
Mike Wright
I'm going. I would go big. I would go big with Ted Ginn.
Andy Holloway
You feel like that's going bigger? Yes, because they take more deep shots to him every game.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And both guys have big play potential.
Mike Wright
Here's so Ted Ginn, avail or is owned in only 58% of leagues in our league, is the 18th ranked wide receiver.
Andy Holloway
He's been who's available in almost half of leagues. And I think you've seen a trend where Cam's relying on him a little bit more. It's not just the deep pass. I mean, one of his. Both of his touchdowns last week were not bombs. They were, you know, one was in the corner of the end zone. One was like a little screen pass that he ran in. So Reuben Randall's another guy that had a Good week. Again, 4 for 44 or 4 for 47 and a touchdown. But the big news there is Beckham. Beckham. If Beckham's out, Randall. Randall moves up the chain.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Which is dangerous because it could be too tempting to.
Mike Wright
Well, it could be when Reuben Randle has to shoulder the pressure of that situation in a must win game against Minnesota. Who's a good defense then? I don't know. There could be problems.
Andy Holloway
Wouldn't you say that Dwayne Harris would be a benefit there too? I mean, he could be. I mean, because Dwayne Harris has had some good games, his shoulder didn't seem to be a problem coming back last week. I kind of like the upside of Harris too, because he can break a big play on the kind of play that Odell Beckham Jr. Breaks, which is, you know, half the time it's a slant that he takes to the house. So Ruben Randall and Dwayne Harris are guys to keep on your radar at the wide receiver position. Let's move over to running backs. This is a desperate time for running backs for a lot of people. Last week, it's what cost me my matchup. I had lost Rawls and I had lost Jonathan Stewart and I had to roll other guys out there Now, I chose Cameron Artist Payne. He's a guy I like. This week, if Jonathan Stewart's out, do you like Artist Payne? Do you like. Or do you like an option in Seattle more? Now, obviously, the Falcons are at home taking on Carolina. That would be where Artist Payne is. The Seahawks have the Rams in Seattle.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think I would lean to. I would go Michael.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
Because the Rams are. That's tough. The Rams play Seattle tough. But their. Their rushing defense has been just gashed the last few weeks.
Andy Holloway
So outside of Christine, Michael, and Artis Payne, who are the guys that are more at the top of your list?
Mike Wright
I really like Bilal Powell. We had a listener tweet us in some. Some facts I don't have right in front of me. But essentially, since week 11, Bilal Powell has been the guy and he's getting more. He looks.
Andy Holloway
He looks good.
Mike Wright
He does. Bilal Powell is. He's an interesting running back because he's always looked good when he's been given an opportunity the last few years. He's. He always ends up being one of these sneaky guys at the end of the year for PPR especially.
Andy Holloway
Well, 7 for 54 through the air last week.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's tremendous. And they're playing against New England. And if you're trying to forecast a game flow, you certainly would have to believe that the Patriots will be up and the jets will be trying to catch up.
Andy Holloway
All right, now, how can you not love Carlos Williams this week? Shady McCoy will be out. Carlos Williams has shown from the beginning of the season that he can get into the end zone and make big plays. I'm a big Carlos Williams fan this week. I know it's Dallas, but I like Carlos Williams.
Mike Wright
The question to me is just William Williams. Get that workhorse role with Gillislee, Gillisley as who's also been serviceable for Buffalo. And Carlos is still a bit banged up. Now, he came out of the game, and Rex Ryan's comment was simply, he's very, very sore. But he made it through the game.
Andy Holloway
Right? Right. So they might split a little bit.
Mike Wright
That's. It's a. Certainly an upside play.
Andy Holloway
All right. Making an appearance at the end of the season.
Jason Moore
Choo choo.
Andy Holloway
I think it was well deserved. Could have stepped off the mic a little bit, you know. All right, Amir Abdullah, nine for 77 and one. Now the one is also a fumble and a touchdown. Two for 12 through the air. I mean, always looks like he's a leg tackle away from a home run and always gets tackled by the leg tackle.
Mike Wright
If watching Abdullah's touchdown run the guy. His ability to change direction at full speed is incredible. Now, he's been a little rough. I compare him to, I don't know. Did you ever see Casey Jones or Casey Jr. The train when you were young? This is the. I think I can train.
Andy Holloway
Oh, okay. I think I can. All right.
Mike Wright
So he's. He's an express. But he's been going up that hill.
Andy Holloway
For this whole season.
Mike Wright
Yeah, for the whole season.
Andy Holloway
Just getting to the top.
Mike Wright
It's a big mountain. It's a long climb and he's just getting the top. And now he's going to go down full speed.
Andy Holloway
I think going down full speed is pretty much what he did. All isn't one matter of speaking. Danny Woodhead, Donald Brown, Alfred Blue. This is the Alfred Blue Experience. If you ever seen that at imax. This is what it looks like. One out of every three or four games.
Mike Wright
Yeah. The projector just breaks down.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I just don't understand it. 20 for 107. He got the. This is why I ran away from Chris Polk and Jonathan Grimes. As soon as we heard Alfred Blue was okay. They said he was banged up the game before. I mean, if you have to start a Texas running back, you got to go say your prayers.
Mike Wright
Got to go with Blue again against Tennessee. So it's not terrible for the San Diego guys. I mean, Woodhead is still owned in 80% of leagues. But you could. Like I dropped him. I was at a point in my money league where I had to make a move. And Woodhead was the most expendable running back at the time because he's been awful for a month now with Melvin Gordon out, it could be the Woodhead show. Donald Brown was 12 for 90. Remember Donald Brown? That's.
Andy Holloway
I remember Donald Brown. Now, how Donald Brown just reminds me of thinking he thinking of how bad Trent Richardson is. Because when you compare the two on the field, you said, you said either one of two things. You either knew that Donald Brown's not that great or you knew Trent Richardson was that bad. And at the time, I think the league thought Trent Richardson wasn't that bad. And that's why Donald Brown got a contract. So Trent Richardson deserves some credit there.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he should send him a sweet thank you note, a bouquet.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
But For Donald Brown, 12 for 90, the Chargers were on the lead for the game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
I mean, they were sitting on the lead, so that could be a game flow thing. I would rather play Woodhead, but like we. Like I said, he's owned in 80% of the league.
Andy Holloway
So it'd be very likely that Brown gets the between the tackles and Woodhead is involved a little bit more than normal carrying the ball. And then we saw what he could do through the air last week. It's not a stay in the flame situation with Woodhead.
Mike Wright
No. He's. He's not even heating up.
Andy Holloway
No. Well, that was a big strike of a match last week with four touchdowns. All right, tight ends. I'm going to pretend I'm a fantasy owner out there and I am in the title game and I'm going up against Greg Olson or Rob Gronkowski or Jordan Reed and I need to mitigate the damage to my roster. Help me, Mike.
Mike Wright
If you have to mitigate a and you want to swing for the fences, I'm going to go with Zach ertz who was 8 for 78 and 1. We've seen him the last few weeks get more involved in the passing game. He gets to take on Washington. So that's the upside play for me was Zach Ertz. If you need to go huge, if you need to go steady, the guy we were talking about at the beginning will tie 5 for 43 in a touchdown. Only owned in 13% of leagues playing against Minnesota with upside with upside because a team that does not have Odell Beckham or likely to have Odell Beckham and then you also have Zach Miller is a guy we like in Chicago who's been. He's been coming on strong with when Martellus Bennett got IR'd and then the. The enigma that is Austin Safari and Jenkins, he's. He could be out there for you still three for 29 and a touchdown.
Andy Holloway
He does get red zone targets and so you're really counting on him to catch one of them.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
So that's what it comes down to. But he has upside too. I like those options. Those are okay options if you need to stream a guy and they're out there. They're all out there. Owned in very few leagues. Like Mike said, well tie in 13%. So. All right, quarterbacks.
Mike Wright
Oh, this is the big one.
Andy Holloway
I always feel like we should probably just start the next segment of the show because we're dealing with the same topic here of streaming a quarterback. So waiver wire decisions to be made here. There's one guy that really jumps out at the top of the list because of his ownership percentage and you have to like it.
Mike Wright
As he would say.
Jason Moore
Full stream ahead.
Andy Holloway
We will circle back to defense here in a second. But this is Our streaming quarterback of the week. This is our joined.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Because I didn't look. This is an important week. I don't want to just throw a name out there. Not that we ever do that, but I don't want to. There's nobody that jumped out at me as another name that I liked as much as this guy. And so I'm jumping on board with you. It's Kirk Cousins.
Mike Wright
Set phasers.
Andy Holloway
Oh, no.
Mike Wright
Championship.
Andy Holloway
Hey.
Mike Wright
With captain Kirk Cousins, it could happen.
Andy Holloway
Absolutely. Playing very well. 319 and 4. We have seen this. We talked about this a lot yesterday in the studio off air. Kirk Cousins, his career trajectory looked a lot like it looks right now. Then he had those kind of crumbling games in prime time with the picks and looked like he lost all of his confidence. And all of a sudden here he is again. A guy who when he plays well, he plays really well. Jordan Reed is so crucial to his success. Having that option with Jordan Reed around the goal line, DeSean Jackson downfield, big plays. You don't miss a lot with Kirk Cousins in terms of, you know, weapons and tools and what they want to do with the offense. Not the best running game but they can get enough done to make it, you know, the play action viable. And he's got the Eagles on. On Saturday night.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's the. It's an A plus B scenario here where Kirk Cousins has been playing well especially coming off of last week and the fact that he gets to take on Philadelphia who their secondary cannot stop anybody. The only thing that can stop a wide receiver against Philadelphia is John Brown esque drops.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that occurs last week and I'm. If you're streaming a quarterback and you need to make a decision on a guy. I love it when you get to make a decision on Kirk Cousins or I know one of the guys that Jason has is. His stream of the week is Philip Rivers this week. So Rivers plays on Thursday, Cousins plays on Saturday. That helps set the table for some of your other decisions. If you've got your quarterback in the books, you know, whether you need to play a safer running back or an upside running back.
Mike Wright
I feel like Philip. Jason's not here for me to chop him down. But Philip Rivers would be a start of the week. A guy who's owned a 90% of leagues. It's not really a quarter. Dreamer.
Andy Holloway
You're right. But yeah, come on. Because people aren't dumping him is what you're saying.
Mike Wright
Jason is sick. I'm going to. I'm going to give him a pass that's his. That's his vomit talking.
Andy Holloway
Okay. But it's relevant that he likes him because if people have him on the roster and they're making. All right, you have Philip Rivers on your roster and you got Kirk Cousins on the waiver wire. What do you do?
Mike Wright
I'd play Kirk Cousins.
Andy Holloway
Okay. And he plays on Saturday night. And if he has a big game, maybe you go safer at your running back. You know, you're flipping someone in for Jonathan Stewart. You can play a Cameron Artist. Pain. You don't need to look for massive upside. You need to get points. So just a guy we really like. There are other options, though, as streamers that we like a little less, but we want them in your brain in case you're in a deeper league. You're in a league where Kirk Cousins is not available and you need to look at another streamer.
Mike Wright
You're in two quarterbacks. And you. You went AJ McCarran last week because you lost Dalton. I mean, there's scenarios where people need quarterbacks. So Kirk Cousins is at the top of the list. Ryan Fitzpatrick still has to be there. It wasn't the best game last week, but he still was 300 yards and a touchdown. He's. He has to take on New England, which could turn into him having to throw a ton.
Andy Holloway
Bilal Pal is helping him a lot, too. Yeah, because the check down and he's always good to run the ball a little bit.
Mike Wright
Teddy Bridgewater. Now this one, I say with some hesitancy because he's coming off a career game. You don't want to chase that level of points. However, they're taking on the Giants and the Giants secondary are also very porous and can be beat with Adrian Peterson a little bit banged up. Maybe. Maybe you want to take a shot.
Andy Holloway
I will say this. It's not been a. It's been a couple of decent weeks for Bridgewater. At least. You know where he had 330 plus yards before in the Cardinal game. And then last week, the yardage wasn't quite there before touchdowns and then one on the ground. So not the worst option in the world, is the point there. He's no Ryan Mallet. Anybody streaming Ryan Mallet this week?
Mike Wright
Oh, man.
Andy Holloway
What about Jay Cutler?
Mike Wright
So Jake Cutler last week, 231 yards and 2. He gets to take on Tampa Bay. This.
Andy Holloway
It's not bad.
Mike Wright
No, it's not bad at all. He's been pretty up and down. And the last guy I know, Andy, is not a supporter of this.
Andy Holloway
I'm not.
Mike Wright
And so it's Ryan Tannehill, who's been atrocious. I know.
Andy Holloway
He's nice endorsement as a stream.
Mike Wright
He's been really bad. But he gets to take on the Colts, who have been equally bad on defense. I know.
Andy Holloway
Fair.
Mike Wright
So that's a. That's a Hail Mary call if you've ever had one. Is going Ryan Tannehill a Tannehill Mary. Oh, very nice.
Andy Holloway
Dad jokes. All right, let's talk about defenses. This is crucial, my friends. Defense, defense, defense.
Mike Wright
We need like a dad joke of the show.
Andy Holloway
Dad joke of the show. Yeah. Houston takes on Tennessee Sands Mariota.
Mike Wright
Delicious.
Andy Holloway
Great matchup for Houston. Buffalo takes on Dallas. Dallas has been delete.
Mike Wright
No, no, no. With Kellen Moore.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Delicious.
Andy Holloway
Kellen Moore made a couple throws that I would have made in the sense that, like two steps backwards. 1.
Mike Wright
Kellen Moore has not been given a chance at all. So he's finally getting it. And. And Kellen Moore has said, screw this, I'm going for it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Which is what you need to do.
Andy Holloway
Well, I think their receivers respect that because they're actually going to get some targets, but that doesn't mean he's not going to throw a couple of interceptions. Potential for a score for the defense.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Pittsburgh. Gotta love Pittsburgh this week. Probably up there.
Mike Wright
I mean, it's either Jimmy Claussen or Ryan Mallet. Either way for Pittsburgh. That's.
Andy Holloway
Well. And last week, Kansas City, two defensive touchdowns against Baltimore. They are. And Pittsburgh's fighting for their playoff lives. I mean, this is just a perfect matchup for them. Detroit. Detroit defense takes on the 49ers. 49ers offense has not been. Not. Not something that's going to hurt you if you started defense.
Mike Wright
Right. And why I kind of like this matchup a little bit more is it's in Detroit, I believe. Let me. Let me verify that it's correct. Yes, it is in Detroit. And while their defense hasn't was. They got a little bit beat up against the Saints. Detroit has been putting up points lately. If they put up points on San Francisco and you put Blaine Gabbard in a situation where he has to keep up, there's going to be turnovers.
Andy Holloway
If for some reason Andrew Luck and Hasselbeck are both out, I think the Dolphins at home are also streaming out at that defense position. So that does it for the streaming section in our waiver wire segment. Do you have any parting words for the audience before we get ready for the big Mel Megalodon show tomorrow?
Mike Wright
So I'll. I'll just talk briefly about I alluded to this my bad beat yesterday just so I can. I know there's some Foot Clan members who got the bad beats and I want to commiserate with you. We already know I got no touchdowns for my league of record playoffs. Coming into this was my big money league. I was the number one seed. I had the most points by far scored. I was averaging per week more than 10 points, more than the, the second highest points. I was crushing this league. After losing Le'Veon Bell and Arian Foster. I pieced it together. One of my finest fantasy masterpieces of all time.
Andy Holloway
Uh huh.
Mike Wright
Last week or last night. I'm coming into the Monday Night Football game. I'm up 30 because Carson Palmer got was a collateral damage of the.
Andy Holloway
David, you're up, you're up 30 and.
Mike Wright
I'm up 30 with Tim Hightower. The other team has Golden Tate and Brandon Cooks.
Andy Holloway
Uh oh.
Mike Wright
It did not end well. Foot Clan. It ended in heartbreak and I can.
Andy Holloway
Sadness to the fact that Mike was not well last night.
Mike Wright
I was watching the game with. I got the in laws in town for a nice Christmas with the kids. I had to leave. I was watching the game with my father in law and I had to leave. I couldn't, I could not be around people. I was so frustrated last night.
Andy Holloway
It is that level of investment that truly I think helps make the show what it is because we are right there with you.
Mike Wright
We're not on tilt.
Andy Holloway
We're not on some other, some other place at some, you know, big network that's concerned about all these other things. We're concerned about fantasy football.
Mike Wright
That's it, dude. It was.
Andy Holloway
And we burned down with the. Just like you do and that you were not happy, man. That cost you some money and it cost you some. You know, you'd rather been blown out, right?
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah.
Andy Holloway
No, I mean that to me.
Mike Wright
I don't know. I just. Oh yeah, it was, it's.
Andy Holloway
It's been a tough fantasy playoffs for me. You guys followed my team through the tough start, right? And I said stay with me. I started 14 in our big league right where Mike and I had been in the title game against each other three, three years in a row. One and four turned into. I think I ended eight and five, made the playoffs, won my first round playoff matchup over Mike, took on Jason after losing Rawls and Jonathan Stewart. But the injuries beat me up this year, man.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Andy Holloway
And I know most of you out there are saying, well that's what you get, Reaper. And you'd be right? So thank you for listening to the show. Huge show tomorrow. Big time show.
Mike Wright
I gotta take, like, three naps.
Andy Holloway
Don't miss it. No way, man. Adrenaline from that defeat. Oh, wait, that's not adrenaline.
Mike Wright
Megalodon Revenge.
Andy Holloway
That's alcohol. No.
Jason Moore
Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers. and follow us on Twitter at theffballers.
Title: In-depth Summary of Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode: Week 16 Waiver Wire Pickups, Streaming Options, Playoff News
Podcast Information:
The episode begins with Andy Holloway expressing gratitude to listeners and sponsors, emphasizing the show's independence and community support. He updates the audience that Jason Moore is ill, leaving Andy and Mike Wright to host the episode. The hosts engage in light-hearted banter about Jason's recent stress and health issues.
Doug Baldwin's Touchdowns:
Andy poses a question about Doug Baldwin's expected touchdowns for the week.
Mike Wright [04:29]: "Rams gotta go with two. He's been incredible. Thirteen on the year 10 in the past four weeks."
Top Tight End Trivia:
Mike presents a trivia question about a tight end consistently ranking in the top 10 over three weeks but owned in only 13% of leagues. The answer is Trey Tiedemann, highlighting his impending suspension linked to Odell Beckham Jr.
Mike Wright [04:56]: “A top 10 tight end the last three weeks and far less.”
The hosts read a positive listener review praising the podcast for its daily fantasy advice and entertainment value, noting its impact on the listener’s playoff success.
Listener Kane the Able: "The Fantasy Footballers provide a daily dose of fantasy advice along with a healthy helping of fantasy vegetables. Heat it all up in the fantasy flames and serve it piping hot. It's the complete fantasy meal you need to be a fantasy champion."
Odell Beckham Jr. Suspension [07:37 - 10:32]: Beckham Jr.'s one-game suspension and potential appeal are major discussion points. The hosts express disappointment over his actions and the Giants' lack of accountability. They debate the fantasy impact, with Andy emphasizing the importance of separating personal feelings from statistical decisions.
Andy Holloway [10:32]: “Part of that process can be taking responsibility for ridiculous actions on the field as opposed to being patted on the back and say, look, there are all these outside circumstances that caused me to do this.”
Denard Robinson Injury & Drew Brees Update [11:05 - 12:14]: Updates on Robinson's foot injury and Brees' ankle injury, which might sideline Brees the following week, significantly affecting his fantasy value.
Melvin Gordon Injury [14:05 - 15:14]: Gordon is placed on injured reserve, ending his season. The hosts advise targeting Gordon in later rounds for future value.
Mike Wright [15:14]: "Melvin Gordon is absolutely on there. He's going to be a guy you can draft probably in the fifth or sixth round who will be a starting running back."
Other Player Updates:
Andy Holloway [10:40]: “So fantasy wise, if you own him, you're in trouble this week.”
Quarterbacks:
Andy Holloway [33:17]: “With captain Kirk Cousins, it could happen.”
Wide Receivers:
Running Backs:
Mike Wright [26:31]: “Bilal Powell is always looked good when he's been given an opportunity.”
Andy Holloway [27:12]: “Carlos Williams has shown from the beginning of the season that he can get into the end zone and make big plays.”
Mike Wright [28:26]: “...he’s an express. But he's been going up that hill for the whole season.”
Tight Ends:
Mike Wright [31:08]: “Zach Ertz is a great option this week.”
The hosts discuss optimal defensive matchups for Week 16:
Mike Wright [38:28]: “They’re going to put some turnovers up.”
Mike shares a personal story about experiencing a significant loss in a playoff matchup, highlighting the emotional investment and the frustration tied to fantasy football outcomes.
Mike Wright [40:34]: “I'm up 30 because Carson Palmer got was a collateral damage of the... It ended in heartbreak and I can.”
Andy reflects on his own playoff journey, emphasizing the show's commitment to supporting listeners through highs and lows.
Andy Holloway [41:13]: “It is that level of investment that truly I think helps make the show what it is because we are right there with you.”
The hosts wrap up the episode by previewing the upcoming high-stakes episode and encouraging listeners to stay engaged. They reinforce their dedication to providing valuable fantasy football insights.
Mike Wright on Doug Baldwin’s Performance [04:29]:
"Rams gotta go with two. He's been incredible. Thirteen on the year 10 in the past four weeks."
Andy Holloway on Odell Beckham Jr. Accountability [10:32]:
“Part of that process can be taking responsibility for ridiculous actions on the field as opposed to being patted on the back and say, look, there are all these outside circumstances that caused me to do this.”
Andy Holloway on Kirk Cousins [33:17]:
“With captain Kirk Cousins, it could happen.”
Mike Wright on Bilal Powell [26:31]:
“Bilal Powell is always looked good when he's been given an opportunity.”
Andy Holloway on Ted Ginn Jr. [32:22]:
“He’s got a leg tackle away from a home run and always gets tackled by the leg tackle.”
Mike Wright on Personal Bad Beats [40:34]:
“It ended in heartbreak and I can.”
This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast provided comprehensive coverage of Week 16's critical fantasy football decisions, including waiver wire pickups, streaming quarterback and defensive options, and playoff strategies. Hosts Andy Holloway and Mike Wright offered strategic advice, player updates, and personal insights to help listeners navigate the final stretch of the fantasy season effectively.