Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 17 Waiver Wire Pickups, Streaming Options, Playoff News

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Episode on Week 17 Waiver Wire Pickups, Streaming Options, Playoff News

Release Date: December 29, 2015
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Championship Celebrations and Listener Acknowledgments

The episode kicks off with a lively celebration of Jason Moore’s championship victory in the hosts' long-running league. The trio engages in humorous banter, with Andy Holloway announcing, “I'm taking this guy to Disneyland... in the most mocking manner” (01:04). Mike Wright humorously compares Jason’s celebratory robe to a mix of Game of Thrones and Santa Claus (02:03). The hosts encourage listeners to share their championship photos using the hashtag #footclantitle, fostering a sense of community and camaraderie.

A notable highlight is the inclusion of a listener shoutout from Jay-Z, who praises the podcast's impact on his fantasy success. Jason Moore reads Jay-Z’s message: “After years of finishing second or third, I took my championship because of this podcast” (05:40). The hosts express their delight and humorous skepticism about sending Jay-Z a piece of the Nets, reflecting the show's engaging and personable nature.

2. Week 17 News and Playoff Scenarios

As the NFL regular season approaches its climax, the hosts delve into critical Week 17 updates, focusing on which teams are vying for playoff spots and the implications for fantasy football managers.

a. Teams Playing vs. Resting Players

Mike Wright emphasizes the importance of knowing which teams are actively playing versus those resting players: “Some championships are not done. And we're still here to help” (02:51). The discussion highlights Washington’s coach Bruce Arians’ aggressive strategy, opting not to rest players in Week 17, ensuring full participation (07:16).

b. Key Injuries Impacting Playoffs

Jason Moore analyzes significant injuries affecting playoff contenders, such as Ryan Tannehill's questionable status for the Cardinals and the potential return of Jonathan Stewart for the Panthers. He notes, “Dan Campbell said Ryan Tannehill's day to day should be ready to go in week 17” (08:12), and discusses how Jonathan Stewart’s presence could boost the Panthers' offensive performance (08:26).

c. Playoff Implications and Scenarios

The hosts break down various playoff scenarios, particularly focusing on the AFC West race. Mike Wright outlines the complex conditions under which the Colts could still compete for a playoff spot, emphasizing their need to win and their opponents to lose specific games (16:00). Jason Moore compares this to “the playoff scenarios in baseball” (19:56), illustrating the intricate dynamics at play.

3. Waiver Wire Pickups and Streaming Options

As the regular season winds down, the podcast shifts focus to strategic waiver wire additions and streaming options essential for securing a Week 17 victory.

a. Running Backs

• Tim Hightower: Jason Moore highlights Hightower as a top waiver wire target, citing his pivotal role in Mike Wright’s championship run: “Hightower ends up with pretty much the best week for a running back” (15:03).

• Rashad Jennings: Mike Wright and Jason Moore endorse Jennings as a reliable option against a weak Philadelphia defense, noting his increased usage: “He is scoring and maybe he's a lower catch type of guy now” (26:28).

• Devonta Parker: Praised for his big-play potential, Andy Holloway emphasizes the importance of high-upside players in championship weeks: “There’s no point in putting in a guy that’s going to, you know, okay, he’s got a guaranteed five points but he can’t get six or seven” (21:08).

b. Tight Ends

• Vance McDonald: Mike Wright supports McDonald for his consistent touchdown potential when primary tight ends are unavailable: “He’s scoring in every single one of those games” (32:26).

• Zach Ertz: Recognized for his high target volume and consistent performance, Jason Moore recommends Ertz as a must-add for his reliability: “There’s nobody better than Zach Ertz right now on the waiver wire” (32:52).

c. Quarterbacks

• Sam Bradford ("Sammy Biscuits"): Despite his struggles, Andy Holloway suggests Bradford as a high-ceiling streamer against weak defenses: “He’s the type where you could get that 35 point game and have this big monster game just for fun” (44:56).

• Alex Smith and Matt Ryan: The hosts recommend Alex Smith for his potential against Oakland and Matt Ryan for his consistent performance and alignment with high-scoring offenses: “Matt Ryan had an okay game last week... I like Matt Ryan as somebody that, if, whether he’s on your bench or the waiver wire, somebody that you could roll out there” (48:00).

d. Defenses

• Dallas Cowboys: Endorsed for their solid defense and favorable matchup against a potentially weakened Washington team: “Cowboys defense is real it's legit” (42:27).

• Tennessee Titans: Suggested for their competent defense and advantageous matchup if starting quarterbacks are not in form: “The Titans defense isn’t terrible in the right matchup” (42:46).

• St. Louis Rams: Recognized as a viable option due to their defensive strengths, with Mike Wright expressing a preference for the Rams over other defenses: “Yes, I would probably lean to the Rams but if you are... both of these guys could have a great game” (43:05).

4. Listener Engagement and Feedback

The hosts actively engage with their audience, acknowledging listener achievements and responding to feedback. Jason Moore reads a listener’s testimonial, reinforcing the podcast’s value in aiding fantasy success: “I took my championship because of this podcast” (05:40). Additionally, they celebrate members of the Foot Clan Listener League, fostering a tight-knit community atmosphere.

5. Preseason and Offseason Plans

Looking ahead, Andy Holloway excites listeners about upcoming preseason and offseason content, aiming to provide continuous support and strategic insights: “We are entering preseason for getting ready for 2016 championships” (02:54). The hosts emphasize the importance of year-round engagement, stating, “There is no offseason with the fantasy footballers” (00:00).

6. Closing Remarks

In their concluding remarks, the hosts recap the importance of strategic pickups and preparation for Week 17, encouraging listeners to remain active and engaged through the offseason. Andy Holloway highlights the significance of winning championships during the draft and throughout the season: “You win it way before the draft and way during the season. That's when you win championships” (50:07). They tease forthcoming content, including awards and reflections on the 2015 season, ensuring listeners have continued value beyond the regular season.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Andy Holloway (02:03): “You look like a combination of Game of Thrones and Santa Claus.”

• Jason Moore (05:40): “I took my championship because of this podcast.”

• Mike Wright (15:03): “Hightower ends up with pretty much the best week for a running back.”

• Andy Holloway (44:56): “Sammy Biscuits is a guy that you can pick up off of waivers and he’s the type where you could get that 35 point game.”

• Jason Moore (32:52): “There’s nobody better than Zach Ertz right now on the waiver wire.”

• Andy Holloway (50:07): “You win it way before the draft and way during the season. That's when you win championships.”

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Final Thoughts

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast delivers comprehensive coverage of Week 17 strategies, emphasizing the importance of timely waiver wire moves and strategic streaming. Through engaging discussions, listener interactions, and expert analysis, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright equip fantasy managers with the insights needed to secure their championships. The celebratory and community-focused tone underscores the podcast's commitment to supporting listeners beyond the regular season, promising continued value in the offseason.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

Hey, Foot clan. As the season comes to a close and championships have been won and we're going on through week 17, we just want to take a second to remind you that we are going strong all year long. There is no offseason with the fantasy footballers. Head on over to JoinTheFoot.com, our fantasy football community, and stay connected with the show all year long.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's gonna be a long Tuesday, December 29th.

[Mike Wright]

You look like Dr. Clough petting the cat.

[Jason Moore]

Except long Tuesday.

[Andy Holloway]

Gonna be a long year.

[Jason Moore]

I was gonna say this is trouble.

[Mike Wright]

Congratulations, Jason, man. I'm having a difficult time. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the show.

[Mike Wright]

Jason has won the championship of our.

[Jason Moore]

League of record, a long running league.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm taking this guy to Disneyland. That's actually not a joke. I'm going next week to Disneyland. I'm taking him with me. Going to get a lot of pictures and post it to everyone in the most mocking manner.

[Jason Moore]

Jason's championship is sweet relief to all of us who had to endure him over the last week of anxiety, as well as proof that men with poor grasps of the English language can indeed win Fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

I am here for all of the regular people.

[Jason Moore]

Well, congratulations. You have done it. The world is right again, as you said. And you have come wearing. For those listening, they don't know that you are wearing a robe of royalty.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's my king of the castle.

[Jason Moore]

Robe, which somehow you own.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, you know, I've got a great wife, and she sewed me a robe that says king of the castle on the back.

[Mike Wright]

This old thing had this for years. Oh, it's winter.

[Andy Holloway]

What, you guys don't have your winter king of the castle robe?

[Mike Wright]

You look like a combination of Game of Thrones and Santa Claus.

[Jason Moore]

I can't stop thinking of the king from Mr. Rogers neighborhood.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go. Now you got to go. Now you have to go to YouTube and subscribe.

[Mike Wright]

Was it Mr. McFeely? He wasn't the king, but I'm trying to think of a character from the show.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you'll have to look it up. I mean, we're going way back. That's when I won my first title. Back when I was watching Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

[Andy Holloway]

Eight years old.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the show. We will endure Jason's championship. Fervor, excitement, joy, pride, all those things. We have news and nose to catch you up on. We got week 17 talk for you. Waiver wire talk. If you're still playing.

[Mike Wright]

Some championships are not done. And we're still here to help.

[Andy Holloway]

We're here for you and we're also here for. So for some of you, today is the first day of preseason football. And that's the season that we're entering is preseason for getting ready for 2016 championships. It happens. Now everyone else, we're going to get you right this week.

[Jason Moore]

Like, for, if you need an example of what that's like, like Dallas, like Dallas has been in preseason looking ahead for a decent amount of time. So we're a lot like them. What else do we got going on? If you've won your title, this is your first day of your reign. Okay. And we'd love to see a picture of you holding your trophy or showing incredible joy proportional to winning a fantasy football title. And if you do want to share those with us, there's a lot of ways to do it. We've been getting emails and we've been getting notes through the submit a question form on the site. But the best way for us to see them and respond to them is on Twitter and use the hashtag foot.

[Andy Holloway]

Clantitle I hashtag foot clan title last night as an example.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

Congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

And so we got a good show. We got some streaming quarterback options for you today. We'll certainly reflect on this past week and this season. And if you want to follow us on Twitter, we are on Twitter, the FFballers. We are on the fantasy sports network. We're on YouTube. You can subscribe on there and get all of our off season content. And I'm not going to tease it like I did yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

Which really wasn't to tease as much as a warning. And if you heard the show yesterday, you know what I'm talking about. We are on, as Mike said in the beginning, we're on Patreon. JoinTheFoot.com is how you can support the show. We're an independent podcast. We're on Facebook, on itunes. Thank you for all the great reviews on there. We like to read those once a week just to say thank you. And so I think we are going to do that right now.

[Mike Wright]

Are we skipping the quick portion of the show?

[Jason Moore]

Well, we do have, we do have a congratulations to Straight Outta Gronkton, the winners of the Listener League. The Foot Clan Listener League.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Congratulations.

[Jason Moore]

If you see the trophy right there, we'll be sending that out. We gotta get an address for Mr. What, the sheppers?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Took care of business.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they did, yeah. Gronk. Gronk took care of Business.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right. And then we have. We also want to do a quick shout out to Kaitlyn Dalton, a friend of the show, going through some hard things. A big, big shout out to Kaitlin Dalton. We love you.

[Andy Holloway]

Winning that title.

[Jason Moore]

Winning that title. Exactly. Congratulations. One of many Foot Clan members who have brought it home this year and made us proud. Let's move on.

[Andy Holloway]

Review a source. Rex. This one comes in from ya boy Jay Z.

[Jason Moore]

That could have been said the way.

[Andy Holloway]

That'S what it says. This podcast is better your boy Jay Z than Star Wars. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listener, slow your horses down. This is what he said. He or she says. Well, I guess it's he, right? This is Jay Z.

[Jason Moore]

Just let him go.

[Andy Holloway]

After years of finishing second or third, I took my championship because of this podcast. This podcast is like week 15, David Johnson. While all the other ones I've tried are like Devonte Adams hands. He stinks really bad. I've been withstanding victories all year. After starting 1 and 4, I found this podcast and finished 104 and won the championship on the shoulders of David Johnson, Blake Bortles, and D'Angelo Williams. The wheel of Water app is great, and I got my friends wet with bets like David Johnson versus Adrian Peterson and Jordan Reed versus Gronk. Thanks for the great work, and I can't wait to keep listening through the off season. Well, Jay Z, I'm happy we could finally help you out.

[Jason Moore]

There we go.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you very much for young Hovind himself.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, very kind.

[Andy Holloway]

Send some of that cache this way. Jay.

[Jason Moore]

You want a piece of the Nets?

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Send over a piece of the Nets.

[Mike Wright]

Like, flay them.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather just have ownership, you know, some stock.

[Jason Moore]

Very complicated world we live in. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

It doesn't. It just kind of feel like the regular season's coming to an end.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we're getting.

[Jason Moore]

It's running down. We've got one. One week left for a lot of people. Lots of news. The big news this week is we want to know who's playing. We want to know who's playing and who's sitting and having to manage that. And hopefully your opponent has a lot of people who are sitting, and hopefully you've got some people that are playing. Bruce Arian said, hey, don't worry about the Cardinals. We're playing everybody. We're going all out to beat the Seahawks in Week 17. I don't have his quote in front of me, but it was something to the extent of I Don't think it benefits anything to sit anybody.

[Andy Holloway]

So, yeah, and that's his way. He's always been aggressive. What's his quote? No risk it.

[Mike Wright]

No biscuit.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Jason Moore]

So.

[Mike Wright]

And I love biscuits.

[Jason Moore]

Expect your Cardinals to play. Dan Campbell said Ryan Tannehill's day to day should be ready to go in week 17. If you're one of those family members of his that count on him in.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasy football or a wife of a cornerback from the Miami Dolphins.

[Jason Moore]

Ridiculous news, man. If you didn't see that Brent Grimes wife came out and just bashed Tannehill.

[Mike Wright]

She's not too pleased with the play of Brian.

[Jason Moore]

We don't need to get.

[Mike Wright]

No, really, nobody is pleased with Ryan Tannehill right now.

[Jason Moore]

Especially you. You were one of the people that thought he would continue the career arc. His career arc had been better. Better, better, better, better every year until this year.

[Mike Wright]

He bell curved already.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's done. Panthers coach Ron Rivera said Jonathan Stewart might be ready to play in Week 17 against the Bucks. It's interesting because they actually have something to play for now. You know, if they had locked up the first. The first seat, you would probably not see him.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

Now we have to pay attention to it, monitor it and see what happens. I believe, and I said this after the show yesterday, I believe the biggest impact to their game this past week was not having Jonathan Stewart. You know, the zone reads don't work when, one, you're not confident enough to call them because you're worried about fumbles or whatever takes place with an inexperienced running back. And, you know, two, if you don't have an effective running game and they don't respect Cameron, Artist Payne the way they do Jonathan Stewart. Fozzie Whitaker is now out with an injury and so I think them getting Stewart back is key to their offense. And so we'll see what happens. It probably has an impact on Cam Newton in week 17 as well.

[Mike Wright]

And the Cameron Artist pain here could get a big bump with, like you mentioned, Fozzie Whitaker high ankle sprain. So he's likely out. I personally don't expect to see Jonathan Stewart this weekend.

[Jason Moore]

So they play Tampa.

[Mike Wright]

Who's left? Who's left? I mean, in Tolbert, Tolbert and Artist Payne.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. For those with Dynasty league thoughts about Calvin Johnson considerations, there are opinions around Detroit that he will stay with the Lions next season. We know the cap number is going to be big, but we've seen this with Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah, but if he's willing to take less money to be there to Stay there to be part of that community. There are a lot of reasons to stay. So we'll see what happens with Calvin.

[Mike Wright]

He's definitely going to have to take.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

A lower contract. His cap number is over 20. It's way too large.

[Jason Moore]

I'll say this, the fantasy owner wants him to stay in Detroit.

[Mike Wright]

That's true.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because if he goes someplace else, he's not going to be as effective. He's not going to be as good. We've seen this too many times with. With receivers at this age.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't want to be Andre Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Or Greg Jennings or, you know, anybody that you just go and get into a new system, new quarterback and he's got this rapport. They have the goal line plays. I think the fantasy owner probably wants him to stay in Detroit. I would agree, but he's got to be healthy. Let's see here. We talked about if. Is he Whitaker high ankle sprain should be out. Jay Glazer saying Brock Osweiler will start the rest of the season. It's been a rough second half for Peyton Manning. You have had injuries, the lack of performance on the field, the team fighting to make the playoffs. Then this oddball report comes out about hgh. Assuming he's telling the truth about that, he's okay. But if he's not even a worse ending to this career.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I mean, you. We. That's not really our forte is to get into that kind of stuff.

[Jason Moore]

But Al Jazeera is not on our.

[Mike Wright]

But I mean the. Apparently allegedly. The source has already recanted the story of some. It's. It's a mess. It's a mess. And there's probably a lawsuit coming for somebody.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's possible. Also possible recantation was very expensive. You know, you never know what's going on around there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Jason Moore]

All right. We've said it before, but we'll reiterate it today when we're thinking about Week 17. J. Gruden said he needs to be smart about resting his players in week 17, which means we don't expect to see any of the Redskins playing.

[Mike Wright]

Means they're forfeiting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that. Nothing.

[Mike Wright]

No one's gonna play the game. We don't have enough players. Sorry, guys, you got to go home.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't see this report, but Drew Brees said he does not see a scenario in which he and Peyton are not on the Saints next year.

[Mike Wright]

That's good news for New Orleans.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

It's my belief that they will both be back. Tom Brady said the Patriots will go all out to secure home field in the playoffs. This is good news for week 17. Brady Gronk, owners Yep. And Brandon LaFell, owners Stephen Jackson, owners Brandon LaFell is. He plays a bit part now.

[Mike Wright]

He's on the field.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, for about one catch.

[Mike Wright]

That's what we can say for the.

[Jason Moore]

He had AN okay game two. Game two, two games ago. But last week, not good. AJ McCarron, MRI on his arm. If you watched the game last night, it was another, you know, we've had a lot of competitive Monday Night Football games. I think they said 13 of the games have been eight points or less. And there's been several overtime games. Pretty incredible. But they lost. He came out. He looked good.

[Mike Wright]

He looked great.

[Jason Moore]

You see this so much, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It's just one of the trends. You see, it's the, okay, we script our first 20 plays and things are going according to plan and the defense adjusts and then now we have to adjust and. And now we have to execute a play. We didn't think about practicing or scripting out. And the defense, you know, you're at home, the crowd's going insane, and you've got some pretty good defensive linemen coming in your face by the end of that game.

[Andy Holloway]

Cold weather, great defense, bad combo.

[Jason Moore]

So that's kind of the news. We'll keep bringing that to you this week to get you ready for week 17, but we're going to talk about some waiver options for your teams here in a minute.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

I'll be there digitally.

[Jason Moore]

I know Jason said this waivers are important and you know this firsthand because you. A big part of your championship run was losing Ingram and instantly signing Hightower. Not Spiller, not another option there. And Hightower ends up with pretty much the, I mean, the best week for a running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

This past week he might be, you know, he's a big reason why you're wearing that robe.

[Andy Holloway]

Hightower. Hightower is a fantasy footballers favorite because we were breaking that news on Twitter to get Hightower when everyone thought to get Spiller. So a lot of championships when I. People been tweeting us their rosters.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Reed, Tim Hightower.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Blake Bortles, Kirk Cousins.

[Jason Moore]

Kirk Cousins.

[Andy Holloway]

Those guys won a lot of people their championship weeks. Johnson and many of them were waiver wire pickups. So win your week this week. Who's it going to be?

[Jason Moore]

Let's tell you, let's talk about it.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I'll tell you who's going to be playing this week. The Colts. Because they can still make the playoffs now.

[Jason Moore]

It's very easy for them to make the playoffs. Right. Could you read maybe the scenario that they look that they need usually, I.

[Mike Wright]

Mean you're like, you win and you're in the Colts, they have just a little. It's a little different for them. The scenarios just there's just a few.

[Jason Moore]

They control their own destiny sort of.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I mean from the aspect of they do need to win, but then they also need Houston to lose. They need the Bengals to lose. They need Denver to win next week. Then they need the jets to lose. They need New Orleans to lose. They also need Kansas City to lose. Then they need the Dolphins to beat the Patriots. Oh, and they also need the Steelers to win. So very plausible that the Colts are division chance.

[Andy Holloway]

Are division chance still in it.

[Jason Moore]

So you're telling Chance with Whitehurst on ir, Hasselbeck beat up from the feet up and what is it Stephen McGee? Is that what. Who's the. Who's the backup?

[Mike Wright]

I don't even know.

[Jason Moore]

Honestly. I think Stephen McGee was the old Cowboys backup. I don't even know if that's. If I'm right about that.

[Mike Wright]

I saw they were working out Josh Freeman. That's, that's how bad things have gotten for the Colts.

[Jason Moore]

Stephen Morris, Sorry, apologies to Stephen Morris.

[Mike Wright]

Stephen McGee.

[Jason Moore]

I still will say that was an old Cowboys quarterback. It's not good in Indianapolis. Is this how they saw the season going? No, I mean when they were sitting there on draft day and they said, hey, we're going to draft Philip Dorsett and win a World World Series. Do you think it to happen?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's like, like I was saying yesterday, that was maybe not the wisest choice. When all of your quarterbacks are dying from getting hit.

[Jason Moore]

They could still win the World Series. Probably not. I think they have Super Bowl. Probably not.

[Andy Holloway]

The Super Bowl. The World Series as the Super Bowl.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Teams that can rest their players. We talked about Washington. That's a team that is likely to arrest their players. Denver, I don't think we're going to see. No, they players rest.

[Mike Wright]

Winning.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they ended up winning. Cincinnati needs to try to secure the.

[Mike Wright]

First week by the bye.

[Jason Moore]

Now, Houston could theoretically rest players if some of those Colts scenarios don't go the way that the Colts won. So for instance, if, if Houston's playing.

[Mike Wright]

They'Re both in the morning though, so they won't know. So they.

[Jason Moore]

All the games are in the morning.

[Mike Wright]

Well, the Texans and the Colts both play in the morning, so either way those teams have to play.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. And we don't have a. We don't have Saturday or Thursday games this week, so they will have to play. What about the situation with Kansas City and the Jets?

[Mike Wright]

I believe that the Kansas City could have controlled their own destiny if the Broncos had lost, stealing the division. That's less likely now. And the question comes do for the Chiefs and the jets the lower seed? What who do we figure it out? The lower seed will probably play Denver. So it's a question of are you trying to manipulate who you're going to play against? I don't think they will. I think the Chiefs will play everybody and the jets certainly have to play everybody because they're still trying to get in.

[Jason Moore]

Now, if the. That could be basically determined a little bit by the jets playing earlier in the day and Kansas City playing in the afternoon.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, really?

[Jason Moore]

Because Kansas City is an afternoon game. And so that's something that, I mean, I, I don't know if it's going to affect too much.

[Mike Wright]

And the Steelers are in the Morning as well.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

So the Chiefs could. Well, the Broncos are. Can the Chiefs still win the division? That I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

With the Broncos winning last night, I don't think.

[Mike Wright]

Do they. I think if they win and the Broncos lose, maybe they still win the division. I have to pull up a. I'll look that up. Pull up a playoff scenario.

[Jason Moore]

Verify that one.

[Mike Wright]

If you have not seen basketball, there is a scene in baseball where they're going through all the playoff scenarios. I feel like that's what we're doing right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It looks like they can still win the AFC West.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so they're going to play that. It's actually a very.

[Jason Moore]

It's a healthy week for week 17.

[Mike Wright]

For a week 17, Washington is the only team. I can clearly state they're going to rest people. Everyone else, they might pull people out if they have a substantial, substantial lead. But other than Washington, I don't think that there's a team that's just going to say. That's just going to punt the entire week.

[Jason Moore]

Kansas City can't punt because if Denver. Denver plays in the afternoon. And so if Denver loses, they win. They win the division title. There's not a lot of situations. You know, Pittsburgh's playing for their lives. The jets are playing for their lives. Houston's still playing for their lives. Indianapolis is fighting with those long odds.

[Mike Wright]

Minnesota and Green Bay are playing for the division.

[Jason Moore]

Right. So really, there's not a lot of people who. Nothing happens to their situation if they were to, you know, rest guys on the final week.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And there are teams like Arizona who, you know, are still fighting for the number one seed.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

So. And they've already said they won't rest regardless.

[Mike Wright]

And the Panthers. Panthers, luckily, are playing for the number one seed as well. I mean, that would have been a problem if the Panthers had locked it up.

[Jason Moore]

So let's look at some free agent options then. If most guys are available. We're not. We're not digging through too many, unless you're signing Alfred Morris or Matt Jones or somebody like that at the wide receiver position. We did see a good week again from Devonte Parker. We saw him perform well.

[Mike Wright]

We did 4 for 93.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So he's, you know, a bigger play guy. Lower reception totals right now at this point in his career. So he's still a big risk to me. Yeah, he's a lot like Tyler Lockett. We saw Lockett come out and kind of not do much last week. Yes, he got a little banged up, but Parker. Parker can hit And Parker can miss.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, when you're in the championship weeks, you have to have guys that can hit. There's no point in putting in a guy that's going to, you know, okay, he's got a guaranteed five points but he can't get six or seven. You know, I'd much rather have a guy that can go out and lose me those five points but give me 22, 25. That's what you need for championship week. And Devonta Parker has that in a pinch. Hopefully you don't need him.

[Jason Moore]

What do you guys think of keyshawn Martin with 11 targets from Brady last week?

[Mike Wright]

Very interesting. You have to monitor the news of is Edelman going to play this week? What do you do you guys have a feeling on Edelman? Because I think he might suit up this week, at least for part of the game.

[Jason Moore]

I don't have enough of a feeling.

[Mike Wright]

To see we got to wait on practice reports.

[Jason Moore]

But I think he wants to play.

[Mike Wright]

I think they'll try to get primed for the playoffs and that's what I think. I think they'll try and get him some snaps. Maybe not a full workload, but some snaps just take a first hit, get that out of the way.

[Jason Moore]

Now Martin was the beneficiary of no Amendola and no Edelman and needing another passing option. He had 7 for 68 in this game with the 11 targets that you said those guys are still out. Is he worth a flyer?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, if those guys are is a.

[Jason Moore]

Big game for them too.

[Andy Holloway]

If those guys are out, he's definitely worth worth a flyer. They're not going up against the jets this week which means they're going to put up more points than they did this past week. The high scoring Patriots offense should be back. I think Martin is a good play if those two guys are out, especially Amendola because like you're saying with Edelman, if he's active, I'm not sure that they're going to just play him all game and and really throw him back to the wolves. So you know, but Amadola, if he's out, I like Martin and if they.

[Jason Moore]

Win the game, they have home field throughout the playoffs. If they lose, there's the potential that Denver takes that away from them. Denver situation was so interesting last night because they could win the game and have a they're in play for the one seed. If they lose the game, they're in play to be out of the playoffs. It's crazy, just an insane game. Well, let's move on here. I you Know, Reuben Randall had a big week. He'll be at the top of your, you know, scoring leader type of situation on your waiver wire. He's not somebody I have any confidence in.

[Andy Holloway]

No way he was the.

[Jason Moore]

He's. I mean, Odell Beckham was out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Odell Beckham was out. And he still didn't have that great a game other than his one play. Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Wright]

But here's, here's the deal with, with Reuben Randall. I'm pulling up his game log so I can get it exactly right.

[Jason Moore]

Two catches last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, two. Absolutely two catches. But 1, 2, 3, 6, 7 of the last seven games, he scored in five of them. So he is scoring and maybe he's a lower catch type of guy right now. His targets aren't great, you know, five, basically five or six targets in those weeks, but he's scoring. And the Giants are going up against Philadelphia and we have seen what has happened in Philadelphia with their defense of last week, Kirk Cousins. The week before was the Cardinals. I mean they're, they're a dumpster fire right now, the Philly defense. So I don't think Randall is a terrible play this week.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's talk about some running backs that had big weeks last week. You know, this Mike Gillislee keeps showing up. He, he sure does in the box score with big plays. Now there was another play. He was 9 for 92 in a touchdown. There was another play in this game where he scored and then it got called Back to the 1 and Carlos Williams got. Was the beneficiary. He's a low carry guy with Carlos Williams carrying the mail.

[Mike Wright]

He is now Carlos Williams. He is the Carlos Williams to what Carlos was to shady.

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Mike Wright]

Just coming in and stealing touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

This game matters to the Bills.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you better believe it does because.

[Jason Moore]

They win and they could keep Rex's team, the jets, out of the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Rex's old team. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

There's no possible place that you could try and convince me that Rex Ryan does not want that to happen.

[Jason Moore]

So let me put this in perspective. Gill Slee or Artist Pain this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Artist Pain. Assuming Jonathan Stewart is out, I think Cameron Artist Pain is a great.

[Mike Wright]

Because of the Fozzie injury. That, that stacks it more towards pain for me.

[Jason Moore]

What about Gillislee or somebody like Christine Michael who had a really bad week. Nobody could run in Seattle. Now Seattle takes on Arizona.

[Andy Holloway]

Gillislee.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Gillisley.

[Jason Moore]

What about some of these other names on this, this waiver list that are going to come up like Rashad Jennings.

[Mike Wright]

Is very interesting, Very, very interesting this week. Like I said again, the Giants are playing against Philadelphia. Saw David Johnson run for almost 200 yards on them last three weeks. Read the carries, read the carries.

[Jason Moore]

22 carries, 16 carries, 14 carries.

[Mike Wright]

They're finally giving him the ball. And surprise, surprise, he's producing.

[Jason Moore]

He had 62 through the air last week as well.

[Mike Wright]

I mean you've gotten rid of that four headed running back situation which is. I don't understand. I mean, granted I'm not an NFL coach, but you saw the Giants stink. Their running game has been terrible all year long.

[Andy Holloway]

How do you get in a flow with your offense when every play you know, you're. You're the guy that's on the field next to your quarterback is different.

[Mike Wright]

It's like they're getting in a line. It's like running okay, run okay. Back to the back of the line. Next.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I need. It's hard because you also add in the variables of execution. You know, now four players have to execute every play in the playbook the right way every time they go out on the field too. You don't get a rapport or you don't get a game flow as Jason's saying, where, where a guy can take the ball three or four times and get into a rhythm on the field. Jennings has been a lot better. He's certainly playing a defense that's ranked 27th against the running back. I like him as a really good option this week. Yeah, I agree to be in that, that streaming category, that starting category.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I absolutely where I think Randall is an okay option. I think Jennings is a pretty good option this week.

[Jason Moore]

Probably my favorite running back signing. I think he's the guy that needs maybe the best free agent signing that's out there because he's still owned and you know, 50 to 60% of leagues right now so that he's out there in a lot of leagues as an opera. And there's a lot of owners that you know, got burnt with Christine Michael or you know, had been lost. Rawls or Ingram of those guys in the playoffs. Here you are in the playoff game and you just need a running back to give you something because you've got all the other pieces. I could have used that this past week. I ran out of, I ran out of team in a third place game. Julio Jones and Brandon Marshall were my wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

They did pretty well.

[Jason Moore]

But I had Christine Michael and Cameron Artist Payne as my running back.

[Mike Wright]

That was not very good.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

So did Cameron Artist Payne get a Touchdown call back. Is that what happened?

[Mike Wright]

I don't recall because I remember he.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he wasn't the end of the world in terms of points, like. But I need a guy like Rashad Jennings that can go out and give me 10, give me 10 points with those wide receivers and it makes a huge difference on your team being able to perform.

[Andy Holloway]

So you would have rather have Rashad Jennings than Cameron Artist Payne?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would for this week.

[Jason Moore]

I think I would. I think I would. You know, Tampa's not bad against the run, you know, and so I think either guy, I'd be okay starting them. I'd sure like to have, you know, start those two guys over.

[Mike Wright]

The two I had last week, I'd go with Jennings.

[Jason Moore]

Of those two, Charles Sims, another Charles Sims type of day, you know, limited carries, limited catches, but pretty effective. The guy scores fairly often. Three for 73, two through the air. He also had some other names I'm going to throw out there you guys can talk about. Pierre Thomas saw a lot of snaps. Travers Cadet saw some snaps and Isaiah Cruell.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Pierre Thomas to me is a guy that, because the Washington Redskins are going to be sitting players, Pierre Thomas is the guy that's like, okay, well, let's just, let's just put him out.

[Jason Moore]

Let him carry the mail.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Because what happens if he gets hurt? So it's definitely a more risky play. I mean, you just don't know how it's going to go down. But you do know, I mean, look, look at last week. Last week he got, you know, four carries for 22, but he got seven catches. He caught the ball seven times for 67 yards. And now they're going to be sitting there starters or a lot of them. I expect Pierre Thomas to be playing and backup quarterbacks, they like to check the ball down. Pierre Thomas is as good a pass catching back as there exists. He led the league in receptions last year, I believe from the running back position and nowhere on the tires this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, my, my concern because initially I had, I was totally with you guys on the Pierre Thomas and I liked it. My concern is that he's old and he's 31 and it looked like they have bumped him ahead of Chris Thompson in the pecking order. So would they rather risk Thomas taking an injury this week or would they maybe want to pull his workload back and give it all to Chris Thompson and see what he can do this weekend? So I'm not, I don't know which, which guy I stand with.

[Jason Moore]

And just to be Factually correct. Jason. He led the league in receiving from the running back position two years ago.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, two years ago.

[Jason Moore]

It was 2013 that he did last year. He had 45 receptions, but he was 77 in 2013.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so any other running backs that stand out to you?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, maybe, maybe Crowell, just because, you know, he can have the big game, but he's. He's hit or miss. But. But like we were talking about, where you want a guy who can actually get you the 10 points instead of a guy. Well, he's gonna get me four in this week where I need my team to explode. So I think that Crowell is worth the. The flyer. If. If, like a Jennings isn't there, then sure, I'll try out Crowell.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and he's a little bit more similar to Jennings in that he's been getting the ball more lately. And their running team, their running game has been atrocious all year, but the last couple weeks, they've kind of got it together. So you've got some good signs there.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're going to move to some tight end options for your team. Sure, it took a few extra weeks to get him going. He's back from the farm thanks to that concussion. But old Vance McDonald had a big game, 5 for 61 and a touchdown, showing kind of what he had showed before the concussion, that, you know he's going to be targeted in the offense when he's healthy. He's had a nose for the end zone when he's been in there. And. So Vance McDonald this week, what are your thoughts?

[Mike Wright]

I like him. He's. He's a little bit deeper than the other guys on this list for me, but he is clearly capable. If you look at the games where Vance McDonald with Blaine Gabbard and where he is the guy, he's the main tight end, everyone else is either hurt or shipped out of town. Then Vance McDonald has been. I feel like he's scored in every single one of those games.

[Jason Moore]

If I wanted to find a tight end on the waiver wire right now, and this guy's owned, according to ESPN, he's in the 55, 57% area. Zach Ertz is the guy I want to. Because you have this.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

He's getting targets, a million of them. He's the one guy that can kind of reliably catch the ball on that team when the game is taking place. Now, Jordan Matthews is great in those last five minutes.

[Mike Wright]

The game after the game, the game after the game.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Matthews. But Zach Ertz represents a lot of dump off passes. He kind of, you know, he's a more athletic Jason Whitten in that offense right now where he can, he could break a bigger run, but he's kind of getting the dump off passes. Surehands. And last week, I mean, what, what more can you say? We called Rule 86. He. It applies to Mr. Ertz as well. He went out there after a game with 8 for 78 and a touchdown against Arizona. He was 13 for 122 against Washington. He's been double digits in four of his last six games. He scored in a couple of those games, which is something he hadn't been able to do. He was just missed on a 45 yard touchdown or whatever that was in the last game.

[Mike Wright]

Sam Bradford just missed.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, yes. He did not miss it. And now he's going up against a team that's 31st against tight end. There's nobody better than Zach Ertz right now on the waiver wire. If he's available in your league to roll out there. And it almost guarantees you no dud from the position if you're going up against a Gronk this week. I'd love to have Zach Ertz on the other side to just mitigate as much as possible.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And I like it. The other guys we like. Zach Miller has continued to emerge in Chicago with the other. The passing options just.

[Jason Moore]

He was their number one receiver last week.

[Mike Wright]

It's.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's not Martellus Bennett's gone. Alshon Jeffries legs don't work. Zach Miller is a good option.

[Mike Wright]

And did you guys see the reports of Chicago before the season? They had started a new program that they were to help prevent soft tissue injuries.

[Andy Holloway]

And everyone's raving about it except for.

[Jason Moore]

Sean, Jeffrey and Eddie Royal.

[Mike Wright]

And I don't remember who it was. Was it Forte?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So Forte kind of threw Alshon under the bus, saying, you know, like the program works as long as you're doing it at home.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So it was very implied that some people were not doing the program.

[Jason Moore]

Jeffrey's a tough case because you do have these receivers, whether it's genetics or, you know, an unwillingness to put yourself in the right position.

[Mike Wright]

It's called Foster ism.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Aryan fosterism.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. You're saying when your soft tissues seem to have issues, it's not soft tissue issues?

[Mike Wright]

He doesn't have soft tissue. He has very soft tissue.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you, medical doctor.

[Mike Wright]

I could not think of a better word.

[Jason Moore]

Mike Wright md.

[Mike Wright]

That's A medical term, but the point.

[Jason Moore]

I'm making is that he is a. He's a risk. There's a reason he doesn't have a contract. And he's a risk because he's a great player. He's a great player when he's healthy. He's a player that's always hurt. So, you know, we'll have to see.

[Mike Wright]

I'll take him.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah. Okay. So objectively, if you're a Bears fan or a fan of any team, you would take the season he just put out, you would pay for it. You would pay for this past season.

[Mike Wright]

Well, not this past season.

[Jason Moore]

No. That's what I'm asking.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, but you got to look.

[Jason Moore]

So is he worth the money based on this past season?

[Mike Wright]

This past season? No. But his. You look at the body of work the seasons prior to that.

[Jason Moore]

Wouldn't use the word body.

[Andy Holloway]

That's going to really soft body of work.

[Jason Moore]

Did you mention will tie?

[Mike Wright]

No, we didn't get there. He will. Ty didn't have a great game this week, but that was also a factor of the Giants just got destroyed.

[Jason Moore]

A factor of Eli having no completions until somewhere in the second quarter, similar.

[Mike Wright]

To the packers last week, of the whole team just imploded. So it's not a shock that. That everyone had a bad game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You throw that game in the garbage for the team.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they did. They did. All right, quarterback options this week. We could. We can talk about Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Matt Ryan's a great person to talk about. He's. He's owned in a lot of leagues, but he's not started good.

[Jason Moore]

Great person.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a great guy. I just, I think his hair is delightful. I happen to get that against this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, absolutely. Matt Ryan is somebody who, you know, if he's on your bench or your waiver wire, you need to seriously consider a start of Matt Ryan this week. You know, hopefully there was some sort of brain circuit connection that registered when he threw the ball up to that Julio Jones feller. And Julio came down with the ball and got him a lot of fantasy points. We missed that this year. You really, really missed it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Hopefully it was one of those. The door opens in your memory banks. You say, I've been here before.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

I've done this.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And it was pleasant.

[Mike Wright]

It feels so familiar and so safe and I just want to give it a big hug and maybe he'll throw the ball to Julio Jones over. Over a 20 yard pass.

[Jason Moore]

Now what do we say? Julio is three catches away from being second in the record books in total catches.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, a very, very good points. He has 120 plus catches and he is like Andy said, I think he's three behind Antonio Brown's record for second and a long shot longer shot of 16 away from the best, the highest.

[Andy Holloway]

Catch total ever in NFL history. Let's make it happen this week. Matt Ryan.

[Mike Wright]

The Falcons have nothing to play for. They could force feed Julio Jones this week.

[Andy Holloway]

You know who I would pick up off of the waivers? If I'm a team playing in week 17, I don't have a good quarterback who I'm picking up at least tonight on the main waiver day where I don't think a lot of people. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to actually pick up Andrew Luck because there's a chance he plays this week against the Titans and we all know how the Colts are still in it must win. But I would pick him up just to see. Now I don't necessarily expect him to start this week and I'm not saying he's the greatest start ever, but he is a type of guy that is not normally on waivers if not for this injury they have been holding him out. He's not going to come back and be, you know, half injured. They're waiting until he's completely ready to go. So if he plays this week, he's going to be fine to play against the Titans. They still got all the offensive weapons and all of a sudden you've got Andrew Luck. Week 17. He's the type of guy that grab now and just see what happens during practice so that if the report comes out you don't have to grab him later. You know, just a big name that's.

[Mike Wright]

Not normally there and I want to throw out. We don't know who it will be yet, but Texans QB against Jacksonville. The Jacksonville defense allows lots and lots of points. And Brian Hoyer, we've seen him be great when he starts for fantasy purposes and we saw Brandon Whedon. Brandon Whedon put up a very good fantasy game. You give him the Jacksonville defense and if you got some rough options, I'm okay doing it.

[Andy Holloway]

I would start Brian Hoyer, no problem. I would not start Brandon Wheaton. That would just be me personally. If he's the starter, there is risk involved. I think there's plenty of other good options that I would rather have.

[Jason Moore]

One being Alex Smith. Taking on Oakland if they need. You know, this is in a potential division winning type of game this season for the Chiefs is kind of reflective of a lot of our listener seasons, myself included. They started off one in five. If they went, they win the division.

[Andy Holloway]

If they win and the Broncos lose.

[Jason Moore]

Division comeback that we've seen or one of the best ever. 1 and 5 has to be to 11 and 5.

[Andy Holloway]

They were a dumpster fire. They were who you wanted to play. We were talking, you know, the defense.

[Jason Moore]

Just wasn't their defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Week six we were talking about how you want to play against the secondary of the Chiefs and now all of a sudden it's like, stay away from that.

[Jason Moore]

Tell me that one or both of you have seen the dabbing Andrew Reed.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I've seen it. I've seen it.

[Jason Moore]

You saw Andy Reid.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Go into the middle of the locker room.

[Mike Wright]

He threw some sleep. He threw some shade.

[Jason Moore]

He did. It was. It's worth. Worth watching.

[Andy Holloway]

I did, I did love the Julio dab against Carolina.

[Jason Moore]

And then Ryan Fitzpatrick also is an option for you at quarterback. Takes on Buffalo this week. Humongous game for them and he's just got it done. I mean he's got these receivers and they're really good and he throws them the ball.

[Mike Wright]

You might have heard of him.

[Jason Moore]

Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, just a great, great pair. We talked about this yesterday. I mean they really are a complete team. They're the type of. Yeah, yeah. They're the type of team that, okay, they don't look elite necessarily because they haven't really put together. You know, these, these blow everybody out of the water. You know, blow somebody good out of the water type of games. But they have a defense that's getting healthy and got healthy. Reavis is back out there. They have a pass rush. They have a secondary. They have an offense that has weapons. They have multiple options. Now the Bilal Powell has been just great for them as another option in the running game that can catch the ball and do things out of the. And when you've got dispatcher runs the.

[Andy Holloway]

Ball, they have decent, you know, offensive lines, defensive lines, running game, passing game, pass rush and secondary. That's yeah, everything. I don't know how their special teams are, but the rest is great.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the special teams are great, especially with coin flips. They can manipulate the outcome to their.

[Mike Wright]

You will kick the ball.

[Jason Moore]

All right, who are some defenses people can grab and win their Week 17 championship with?

[Mike Wright]

I only have a couple on this list. I like the Cowboys this week. They have a pretty solid defense and they're taking on the. The. The Washington team that may not be fielding 11 players.

[Jason Moore]

Cowboys defense is real it's legit. It did it again this week, especially.

[Mike Wright]

With when Sean Lee is playing. That's a different defense but it's going to be Colt. Likely to be Colt McCoy and who knows in some bodies and some cadavers that Washington throws out there.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to throw a D out there. Let's just pay attention to.

[Mike Wright]

Let's hear it.

[Jason Moore]

The Titans.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, if it's.

[Jason Moore]

If it's Stephen. Stephen Morris, if it's a fourth string quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The Titans defense isn't that, you know, isn't terrible in the right matchup.

[Mike Wright]

That's a great play. I hadn't thought of that.

[Jason Moore]

So that's somebody to think about. Did you mention San Francisco?

[Mike Wright]

Not yet. San Francisco and the Rams, both of these defenses could be good options. Yeah, I would probably lean to the Rams but if you are. If you're grabbing at straws, both of these guys could have a great game.

[Andy Holloway]

I think the Steelers could have a. Have a good game. You know, they have to win and they.

[Mike Wright]

Who are they playing?

[Andy Holloway]

They're playing Browns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

They disappointed me last week. I can't recommend the Steelers because they.

[Andy Holloway]

Go back and forth. So this is their bounce back.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Except for last week. They were at home. Are they against Baltimore and they gave it up and.

[Mike Wright]

No, they were away. Away, weren't they? Well, they were home.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they were home against.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, they were.

[Jason Moore]

So anyways, it's still.

[Andy Holloway]

No, they were on the road.

[Mike Wright]

They were on the road. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you can, you can vet me.

[Mike Wright]

They are definitely on the road. Last week, remember we were talking about Big Ben doesn't have multi touchdown games on the road this season.

[Jason Moore]

I think you're right. Huh?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He was on. They were on the road.

[Jason Moore]

No, you're right. You're right. My fault on that one.

[Mike Wright]

If they are at.

[Jason Moore]

They're still. No, they're still on the road.

[Mike Wright]

They're still on the road. Then I'm not playing the Steelers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All right, let's go ahead and get into our streaming quarterbacks.

[Andy Holloway]

Full stream ahead. Silence is golden.

[Mike Wright]

Are you waiting for someone else to feel.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm. It's fine. How does it feel to be champion, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty good. It feels like a lot of our listeners.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So then I'll kick it off and I'll go with my stream of the week and I'm going to take it all the way back to the beginning. A guy that we liked in draft season, a guy that looked like he was going to be promising. And he is probably on your waivers because he has not been good this year. And that's Sammy Biscuits.

[Mike Wright]

Samuel. Samuel J. Biscuits.

[Andy Holloway]

Samuel J. Biscuits. Sam Bradford, you know, he's had a.

[Jason Moore]

Very disappointment name, had anything to do with his disappointing season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, gravy's been poured all over him. Here's the deal with Sam Bradford. He has more receivers drop the ball than I have ever just watched. I don't think they're leading the league in drops, but they're leading the league. They have to be leading the league in egregious drops. Drops where he just hits people in the hands and they drop the ball. That being said, you're talking about two weeks in a row where he has over.

[Jason Moore]

They're number one in the league and drops.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, well, there you go.

[Mike Wright]

Sam Bradford watches Mike Evans play and he's like, I want, I want that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

I want that guy. He can catch the ball.

[Mike Wright]

He can, he can catch it sometimes.

[Andy Holloway]

But Sam Bradford has back to back weeks over 360 yards through the air. You don't even need touchdowns when you're throwing 360 yards. And when you do throw 360 yards, you're generally throwing a couple touchdowns in that mix as well. Their run game is just imploded on itself and they're facing the New York Giants who have been one of the worst teams against the past this year. So I think Sammy Biscuits is a guy that you can pick up off of waivers play and he's the type where you could get that 35 point game and have this big monster game just for fun.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, they're the worst in the league in drops. They drop 6% of their passes, their targets. Who do you think the best? Who drops the least? Tough to guess.

[Mike Wright]

Best hands in football.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's a team. There's a team stat.

[Mike Wright]

Seattle, Baltimore. Baltimore.

[Jason Moore]

Would you believe that has a lot to do with a short passing game still?

[Mike Wright]

But yeah, guys drop short passes.

[Jason Moore]

Only 11 drops for Baltimore all season.

[Mike Wright]

Where's Seattle on that list?

[Jason Moore]

Seattle is very close to that. They're 1212 drops in the season. So yeah, pretty impressive.

[Mike Wright]

So I'm gonna. I like, I like Jason's call there. The. What's funny about that is you have the Giants and Philadelphia a game that there is. There are no implications whatsoever. But that's a game that I actually want to watch. I think there could be some points put up there.

[Andy Holloway]

It could be a start. Eli, if you got Eli, I'm gonna.

[Mike Wright]

Go with Alex Smith. He's taken on Oakland and Oakland is having some problems here towards the end of the year. The last time that he took on Oakland, he. He only threw for 162 yards, but that included two touchdowns and he ran one in. And we saw that Alex Smith is just. He continues to run 6 for 54 on the ground. Last week, I mean, that's, that's a touchdown, essentially. He ran for an extra touchdown with a chance of always running one in. So I think that Alex Smith is a decent streamer this week.

[Jason Moore]

Alex Smith is the guy I want to start if I am favored and have matchup advantages in other positions. And then you know you're going to get something.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Alex Smith certainly has a ceiling.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

That he can reach. I just think that he has a pretty nice floor this week as well.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm going to cheat a little bit and I'm going to go with Matt Ryan. I know he's owned in a little bit in more leagues than Alex Smith and Sammy Biscuits, but, you know, Matt Ryan had an okay game last week. Really kind of put together his most complete game of the year from start to finish as they upset Carolina. And you know, he faces New Orleans. You know, Bortles just lit up New Orleans. We know what New Orleans defense can do. We know what their offense can do. This game could be more higher, more of a higher scoring game. And so I like Matt Ryan as somebody who, if, whether he's on your bench or the waiver wire, somebody that you could roll out there and kind of have a better game from. And like Mike said, they might target Hulu even more trying to get him the reception record. I believe he needs 16.

[Mike Wright]

16 would get him the record. That's. That's a tough, tough cookie to crumble, if you will, is to get 16.

[Jason Moore]

Try again. Try again.

[Mike Wright]

That's a tough egg to crack.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Jason Moore]

16 catches. Yeah. Has he done that this year?

[Mike Wright]

I highly doubt it.

[Jason Moore]

16.

[Mike Wright]

That's a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he does have the third most in NFL history.

[Jason Moore]

He's done 13. He's done 13.

[Mike Wright]

That's just the beginning of the year. The beginning of the year. You could bank on 10 plus catches.

[Jason Moore]

Impressive year. 127 catches so far this season. Unfortunately for me, I made this comment yesterday. I've been an owner of Julio Jones in our league of record and his big games have never helped me. Like this one happened one week too late for me because I was in semis against Jason last week and then his other ones were at the very beginning of the year and they just happened to not help me. And then he had all these games where he couldn't score.

[Mike Wright]

So salty.

[Jason Moore]

He scored in two weeks. All right, you're right. You're right.

[Mike Wright]

He's got the third most catches in league history.

[Jason Moore]

No, I meant his.

[Mike Wright]

He wasn't really helping my boom game.

[Jason Moore]

All right, you're right. Guys, got any parting words for the listeners?

[Mike Wright]

Don't be salty like Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

My parting words for everyone. Foot clan title hashtag, Foot clan title or no Foot clan title. Are the. Is that.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, come on.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. Is that. I am very excited for next week. I am really looking forward to the pre 2016 shows. Those are so much fun. We get to really play around on those shows, look at all sorts of different things. Have fun with our listeners. So stay tuned, keep listening. That gives you an unfair advantage going into next year. I would highly recommend it. It's a way to win. You don't win the championship at the draft. We've had so many people saying that this week. Who won the championship saying, wow, you don't. You win it way before the draft and way. And during the season. That's when you win championships.

[Jason Moore]

So start it next week and we're going to have a lot of fun with, you know, best and worst of 2015 and reflecting on the season, probably giving out some awards to players.

[Mike Wright]

We will talk about that. We call them the footies, get little stockings. Yeah, I like it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah, that sounds.

[Mike Wright]

I just agreed to.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know why. The stocking comment.

[Mike Wright]

I was not listening at all because I was looking at Andy and then I agreed to a stocking, apparently.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know why we got to get socks, but they can be the footy. Why would you buy a bunch of.

[Andy Holloway]

Little socks as the awards?

[Jason Moore]

Who are you giving them to?

[Andy Holloway]

We're gonna ship them to the players.

[Jason Moore]

We're. Congratulations, miniature socks.

[Andy Holloway]

Ship a sock to Jordan Matthews and say, congratulations, you're the garbage man.

[Jason Moore]

Here's a sock that's coming out of your. That's your pocket.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

I would love whatever money, whatever bank account you used to buy these robes. Are you account.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that kind of got a little Dracula there.

[Jason Moore]

I can count.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go.

[Jason Moore]

Titles you got. I'll tell you that. All right.

[Mike Wright]

He's got one.

[Jason Moore]

Couldn't resist. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Enjoy your night.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we'll start breaking down some matchups, get you ready for that Week 17 championship.

[Jason Moore]

All right, he's making out with it now. This is gross.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter at theffballers.