
Fantasy Football Podcast for September 16, 2015. Week two is upon us and The Fantasy Footballers are back yet again to discuss the upcoming week of NFL football. The guys spend time answering Listener Mailbag questions, spanning everything from starts an
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Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
How's it going, everybody? It is Wednesday, September 16, and that is kind of a lie, but not really. We are back. We are the fantasy footballers. I'm going to get to it. I'm going to get to it. You just wait. This is the Fantasy Footballers podcast. We are back again talking fantasy football. We just had a waivers show yesterday and hopefully gave you a lot of names to be paying attention to. If your waiver wire has already gone through this morning, hopefully you have a lot of those guys that you didn't overpay for. Like we said, 100 fab dollars for James Jones. Everybody should have done it and you should have James Jones on your team now for $100.
Andy Holloway
I'm fabulous. But I got, I got James Jones on all my teams.
Mike Wright
That sounds like fabulous.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I'm both F, A, B O. I was lying.
Jason Moore
Hopefully you didn't really do that, but hopefully you have some good starts for this week. And you started off one and oh, and if you didn't, it doesn't matter because you're only owing one and it's never over.
Mike Wright
You.
Jason Moore
Your season's not over. You'll be okay.
Andy Holloway
It's never over.
Jason Moore
The season's never over.
Mike Wright
That's season is never over after week one, right?
Andy Holloway
Oh, I was gonna say that's inaccurate.
Jason Moore
Don't tell that to C.J. anderson owners right now. Oh, who are freaking out.
Mike Wright
Go get them.
Jason Moore
Calm down, calm down, calm down. If I get one more, should I trade CJ Anderson for Joey Randall? Question on Twitter or something. Just chill. He's okay. I hope we've got a good show for you today. This is our Wednesday show, our mailbag show. We are recording this show late Tuesday because Wednesday is kind of our one off day of the week. We work the whole week and obviously on Sunday it is jam packed and so we all have families and try to remain part of them by taking Wednesdays off. So we're recording this late Tuesday. And I only say that because if some crazy breaking news happens and we don't mention it on the show, that's why we've got a lot of good stuff we're going to talk through today. We're going to take some voicemail questions from the listeners. We're going to take some mailbag questions and just kind of discuss. A lot of people have trade questions right now. I don't really mind trading this early. I actually kind of like it if you're doing it smart. And the reason being is because of overreactions and because of, you know, being able to identify a few things very early in the season. I mean, we've talked about Tyler Ifert or some of these other players that broke out. It's kind of. You have the opportunity to buy lower on people. Even, even players that just broke out. You can buy low on them if you really think that they're going to establish themselves.
Andy Holloway
And there's plenty of first round running backs who kind of pooped their pants this weekend. So there, there may be a panicking owner with a C.J. anderson and Adrian Peterson, Lamar Miller, Miller, a Justin Forsett. These are all guys that I would try to acquire for 50 cents for the dollar.
Jason Moore
Because the other side of the equation is a bunch of kind of middle guys or nobodies that had huge weeks. And if you have them on your roster and you take a huge guy like that and you combine him with somebody else and you go after a big fish like Lamar Miller. Literally, if I took Austin Safari and Jenkins are not fish. If I had Austin, Severian Jenkins and I had. I know they're not fish, Mike. If I had ASJ and I had.
Andy Holloway
Quickly accurate jokes, right?
Jason Moore
And I had like another running back that was kind of okay, perfect. Sankey and Ashley J. You offered that to the Lamar Miller owner. And if he doesn't, you know, if he's panicking or worried you might steal a fish, a mammal. There you go. All right. So anything else going on, guys? You can find us on the web atthe fantasy footballers.com youm could submit questions for the show there. You can also follow us on Twitter @ the FF Ballers. You can follow Mike at the FF Hitman @FF. Sorry, did I say the. You should have thrown that in. @ff hitman. You can follow jason@jasonasonffl can congratulate him on his correct prediction. Ryan Matthews, any dreams last night, if you have any.
Mike Wright
Unfortunately, with this double duty, I haven't been able to dream before tonight's episode.
Jason Moore
You didn't fall asleep during that Chipotle burrito?
Mike Wright
I'm going to fall asleep during this show and then I will wake up and tell you who it is.
Jason Moore
So a normal show, A normal show for you today? Yeah, you can follow me at Andy Holloway. I'll throw my handle in there too. That way you can make your request for the Fantasy Reaper, which, by the way, I'm being blamed for any injury that has happened across the board. Yeah, Jacks.
Mike Wright
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Andy Holloway
Yes, people.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
I feel like this. I fully support this from the Foot Clan. And if you enjoy.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
And it's only getting better, too.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Because the more people that are in there, the more you can post a question and people are giving you a response right away. So did you have something else you were gonna add to it?
Andy Holloway
It's like a party.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Well, that's fair. JoinTheFoot.com Join the party. All right, let's go ahead and get into the mailbag.
Mike Wright
Mailbag.
Andy Holloway
Mail bag.
Jason Moore
Okay, the first question here comes in via voicemail. If a familiar voice at that.
Tony Meatballs
Yo, yo, yo. It's Tony Meatballs. Did you guys see my dude and Mia Edula? Yeah.
Mike Wright
So?
Tony Meatballs
So I have a question. Should I drop this fool Joycoyle, maybe for like, a Chris Johnson type? I think the timer is up on him. Like, it's up on my eggplant parmesan, you know? You know, guys. You know what I mean? Tell. Tell your followers. Follow me on Twitter. I'm on sleeper bot 2. Thanks for playing that out.
Jason Moore
I'm.
Tony Meatballs
I'm. I'm schooling all these fools, too. The Joy Bell type fools. All right, guys.
Jason Moore
Oh, Tony, me boy.
Tony Meatballs
You guys, another time.
Mike Wright
Peace.
Jason Moore
I'm sure you will. And always entertaining. The world can find Tony Meatball just about anywhere.
Mike Wright
Now, he is broadening him according to himself right there. It's plural. This is Tony Meatballs.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it is.
Mike Wright
I've always wondered that. And I was listening this last time to see his ball.
Andy Holloway
You can never have one meatball. No, it's not spaghetti and meatball.
Jason Moore
Speaking of which, I've been to places where that's the way they serve it.
Mike Wright
That's ridiculous.
Jason Moore
But it's oversized. It's an oversized single meatball.
Andy Holloway
Okay, well, if it's an oversized single meatball, then give me two oversized meatballs.
Jason Moore
Just. Oh, you mean two of the same oversized.
Mike Wright
If it's oversized, whatever size your meatball is, you give me multiple of them.
Jason Moore
This brings us back to the same thing. Yesterday, you showed me that in n out burger that had no bun and how delighted you were. You don't want the pasta. You want the meatballs. That's all you want.
Andy Holloway
If they're covered.
Jason Moore
I'll take two meatballs, please.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
All right. Well, I think there was a question.
Andy Holloway
There was.
Jason Moore
Do we drop Joy Bell for Chris Johnson. This is where you guys jump in and say yes.
Mike Wright
Well, yeah, that should be. Are you questioning? No. I mean, you. You absolutely do not drop Joyk O. Bell. And he's. He's gonna be fine. As the season goes on, he'll get more work. I was expecting week one for his workload to be about what it was. And I think Abdullah will still be involved, especially in the passing game. He'll be great. Good to own. But Joyk will keep getting better.
Jason Moore
All right, this is another drop question. A drop pickup dilemma, as it were. The Sneed in capital of the free world. Where's the capital of the free world?
Mike Wright
America.
Jason Moore
America is the capital of it.
Mike Wright
I don't know.
Andy Holloway
Capital of the free world, I believe, would be Washington, D.C. okay.
Jason Moore
That's where he's writing from. Thanks, Mike. You keep it real there.
Andy Holloway
Just getting geographical. That was two words in one.
Jason Moore
Should I drop Trey Mason and pick up David Johnson, currently operating with a running back core of Gore, Stewart and Morris and Coleman?
Mike Wright
It does not matter what your running back core is. I would say do it. That would be my opinion. If. If I could pick up both of those guys on the waiver and they were both there, I would pick up David Johnson.
Andy Holloway
I would. Because your core, you have other guys and Tre Mason is not inevitable to be in your lineup. I would do it because the upside of Dave Johnson longer term is higher. But Tre Mason still has value to me. I know he was coming off a hamstring. He did warm up, so it looked like he was going to try to play. Maybe he gets in this week, but Benny Cunningham had value against Seattle and Tre Mason is going to be the guy over Benny Cunningham. So it's. And even moving forward, there's. There's no guarantee that Todd Gurley is just as soon as he's back and healthy. 3. Every single down goes to Todd Gurley. No one else gets work. The. The system in St. Louis has room for two running backs. So I still like Trey Mason.
Jason Moore
Wow. You have been a staunch Mason supporter and he was good. I begrudge that. I begrudge that. I would take David Johnson. All right, kicker question, guys.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Are you ready for this? Yes. Michael in South Carolina is Brandon McManus.
Mike Wright
The real deal in Denver if Peyton Manning stops throwing touchdowns? Yes. And it seems to me like that might be the case. I like Brandon McManus. I would pick him up over half the league.
Andy Holloway
It's a kicker, it's game dependent. You never know. I mean, how many points did Josh Brown have? Up in the New York Giants. I think he had about 17 points for me.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't take me long to pick my kicker every week off.
Andy Holloway
Of waiver wires because I just point and click. Ok, that's.
Mike Wright
My guy had four points.
Jason Moore
I've got it.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
How'd that work out? Early kicker drafters.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Josh Browning.
Jason Moore
In your face.
Andy Holloway
In your face.
Jason Moore
How did the missed extra points work out for people?
Mike Wright
Hopefully they get negative points because I want kickers out of fantasy football.
Jason Moore
Why is your solution to getting rid of kickers to, like, disproportionalize their points and make it a disaster for everybody? No, not just take them down and then just make them, like, muted.
Mike Wright
That's all I want to do is mute the effect and I guess.
Jason Moore
So you subtract a bunch of points if they miss.
Mike Wright
I'm just. I just want kickers to like, end every game with like, this guy was worth a point. My guy was worth two points.
Jason Moore
Did you just choke a little bit? Yeah, I'm gonna.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
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Jason Moore
You still have it?
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Jason Moore
All right, to the Ivory question and I'm surprised that I haven't seen more of this. It is a great question. Do you flip Chris Ivory right now? Because you talk about selling high on guys. He was offered Greg Olson and Doug Martin for Chris Ivory.
Andy Holloway
Not that, not for me.
Mike Wright
I feel like that's really tempting to me because Greg Olson is an ultimate buy low. I think his value is where you can get him. For Chris Ivory. If you add Doug Martin, that's, that's a need position there.
Jason Moore
If you've got, you know, he already has Jordan Reed.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Then, then probably not.
Andy Holloway
I think that Ivory can be a solid two all year long. We had, we had Nick Mangold on and he talked about how Ivory looks different and I've heard a lot of things coming from the jets organization that Ivory looks the best that he's looked since being up in New York. And he was, he was a great runner in New Orleans. He just didn't get freed and now he's finally freed. There's no Chris Johnson taking reps away from him. It's Chris Ivory. That's the guy who's going to get all the goal line work. I just, I'm not moving him right now.
Jason Moore
So from a sell high perspective, you're kind of just like Carlos Hyde. It's a position of sustainability. You envision them to be able to keep it up.
Andy Holloway
Right. Well, and let's, let's say someone. An extreme panic like we were talking about earlier. Say someone freaks out. Like I will give You, Adrian Peterson right now for Chris Ivory? Yes. Then I will trade Chris Ivory. But unless I'm getting blown away by an offer, then I'm not moving him.
Jason Moore
Fair enough. All right, let's. Here's a tight end question. We still don't really know which tight ends are going to do it for the year. I mean, it's been been one week. We see some ups and downs. This owner Leon and Mira Mesa says he has Vernon Davis and Richard Rogers. One, should he address this position? And two, who should he drop to sign? If you want him to sign somebody, here's who's available. Savarian Jenkins, Austin, Severian Jenkins, Jordan Reed, Heath Miller, Larry Donnell and Brent Selleck. So should he address it? And if so, who should he drop?
Mike Wright
Yes, for sure. I think there's two or three guys out there that I like better. Two or three guys that I like better on your waivers than either Vernon Davis or Richard Rodgers. Who should you drop? Probably both. Vernon Davis and Richard Rogers only carry one tight end. Grab another RB flyer, and then I would pick up probably asj. Did you say Jordan Reed was out there?
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Mike Wright
Oh, then Jordan Reed.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, for me, it's.
Jason Moore
I like Reed more than asj.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I would. I would rank them. Jordan Reed, and then I would actually take Heath Miller. At least for these couple games.
Jason Moore
He looked really good.
Andy Holloway
He's going to get extra targets.
Jason Moore
He might score a touchdown this week.
Andy Holloway
With Martavis out, and his value may go down. But then after the next three weeks, you can readdress the situation.
Jason Moore
All right, here is another trade question. Joey in Boca Raton said, should he trade CJ Anderson for Mark Ingram and Pierre Garcon? It is a PPR league.
Andy Holloway
That's. No, I'm not going to do it. I'm still. CJ Anderson's upside is just tremendous. They've got to get something going in Denver. It was just one week. I think the Baltimore defense is very good. And if Peyton Manning. Let's theorize. If Peyton Manning. The demise is happening right in front of us. What are they going to do? They have to run the ball. They don't have a choice. And while the offensive line has looked shaky at best, I mean, they have to run the ball, and Anderson is a much better fit for that than Hillman. Hillman is it. Hillman is a nice auxiliary guy. Hillman is a. A Giovanni Bernard to me. He's not a guy who can sustain it and be a workhorse.
Jason Moore
I would agree with that.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I agree. It's. I think it's just mostly a matter of what we feel about Ingram because Ingram, I believe, caught.
Andy Holloway
I like Ingram, though.
Mike Wright
Didn't he catch? He caught like eight passes. It was, it was. You know, he's not thought of as a PPR guy, but they were using him that way in the preseason and they used him a lot that way in game one. So the value of Ingram to me is, is higher than I expected it to be. Preseason I've got CJ Higher than Ingram, but Ingram was pretty close already.
Andy Holloway
Right, but, but does the Ingram. Does that change when C.J. spiller is back?
Mike Wright
I think it'll. He's not going to catch eight balls a game or he'd, you know, lead the history of the NFL from the running back position. So I do expect that that would change a little bit. So would you make the trade or would you stand pat?
Jason Moore
I would not make the trade. No, I don't, I don't, you know, draft a guy in the top five, six, seven in the draft and trade him in week two almost. Unless his legs fell off. I mean, I just got to give my guy a shot. Otherwise I've completely blown the value I used in the draft. So I, I can't see a circumstance where I do that right away. All right, so here's a waiver question. Des. Injury related. Luke, in your teeth. Yo, teeth.
Mike Wright
Know your teeth, Andy.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I know. All right. He lost Des Bryant. He has Megatron, Allen Robinson and Devonte Adams left. Who does he grab off of waivers? Moncrief Harvin or a Seattle wide receiver?
Andy Holloway
Moncrief for sure. Moncrief.
Jason Moore
What about the. We haven't talked about it because you can't talk about every single player every single week. But Percy Harvin had a very good game.
Andy Holloway
Percy Harvin had a very good catch.
Mike Wright
Yes. A good play.
Jason Moore
I don't think that's true. I think you guys are very wrong on that.
Mike Wright
He had 50 yard. He had a 50 yard touchdown and I believe.
Jason Moore
And he had a carry out of the backfield and I believe he had five receptions for 79 yards, a touchdown and a carry.
Andy Holloway
Okay, so five. He had five receptions for 79 yards. One of those catches was 50 plus yards. So four catches for 29 yards.
Jason Moore
Yeah, we count the 51 though.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
In football.
Andy Holloway
Okay, so you're predict. Let me hear it. Next week, Percy Harvin, 50 yard touchdown.
Jason Moore
I will make a Percy Harvin bat.
Andy Holloway
Let's hear. Yeah, what is it?
Jason Moore
He'll have more than five receptions.
Andy Holloway
Oh, done.
Mike Wright
That's Two on one water bet.
Andy Holloway
Five is the over. Under five. No one is wet.
Jason Moore
Correct.
Mike Wright
Six.
Jason Moore
And even when I said it, I really meant that I win with five. But we'll do it exactly as you said it. Five. Nobody loses more than five. I win. So prepare to be wet. All right, Kyle in Shelton, Washington. I know that some of these guys are obvious, but he has no idea what to do with his flex position to running back. Two wide receiver, one flex. He has Lacey Hill. Four set. Well, all those guys are playing. He has. He has Jonathan Stewart, but he spelled his last name like Stuart Little.
Mike Wright
Neat.
Andy Holloway
Oh.
Jason Moore
So I took me like two extra seconds to figure out who he's talking about. Like, what guy's name is Stuart? Like Stuart Edelman Stort. So he also has. So he has.
Mike Wright
That's from a.
Jason Moore
Is that a. Yeah, yeah, it's a.
Mike Wright
Reference from Mad tv.
Jason Moore
Wow. Oh, Stuart. Yeah, I remember that store. Look what I could do.
Mike Wright
Yeah, There you go.
Jason Moore
All right. Lacey Hill, four set. Jonathan Stewart, Ivory, A.J. green, Cooks, Hopkins. Okay. He has everybody in the league.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
He can only two running backs, two wide receivers and a flex.
Andy Holloway
So he needs an entire lineup. Set.
Jason Moore
It would appear he needs five players to start out of this group. Lacey Hill for set. Stuart Ivory, Green.
Andy Holloway
So Lacey's in.
Jason Moore
Hopkins, Allen and Marshall.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Lacey, that's. Lacy's playing the Seahawks. But he's still going to be in.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
Jeremy Hill.
Andy Holloway
Jeremy Hill will be in. And so now I need two wide receivers.
Jason Moore
That's correct. And you've got AJ Green, Brandon Cooks, DeAndre, Hopkins.
Andy Holloway
Green and Hopkins.
Jason Moore
All right. And then a flex. Would you go four set? Jonathan Stewart, Ivory. Ivory.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to go four set.
Jason Moore
Cooks.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to go with four set.
Jason Moore
All right. I agree with that one. And that one's a little harder to.
Mike Wright
I do too.
Jason Moore
You have all the good players.
Mike Wright
That is the type of team where I would look to package, you know, a decent guy and a middle guy or even a good guy and a middle guy for another absolutely elite top of the Hill. Because you're leaving a lot on your bench, not just where it's like, oh, I might need that depth. It's like, okay, if you don't need. If you lost a guy, you still are making a tough flex decision. So look for a two for one trade.
Jason Moore
What are your guys thoughts on Darren Sprouls? Now, Sprouls had a very good game. He led the team in rushing yards. He was on the field a lot running routes. Will he put similar numbers? You Know the over under 15 points this week against the Cowboys in PPR scoring. Would you think 15 in a PPR league this week?
Andy Holloway
It's very possible. I mean if, if you recall last year, Darren Sprouls was just on fire to start the season and he was one of.
Jason Moore
Really died off.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
In one in a PPR type format. He was huge for I think four weeks and then he really died off, which it. That's. That's kind of who he is. Where it's just going to be inconsistent. Yeah. If you're looking for a flex plan, your. Your options aren't fantastic. Darren Sprolz is, is a better one of those just reaching into a hat type of guys, but he's not a guy who I'm going to depend on week to week as my RB2 or something like that.
Jason Moore
Let me. This might be painful for Jason Moore's earballs.
Mike Wright
Give it to me.
Jason Moore
Ryan Matthews or Darren Sprols the rest of the year.
Mike Wright
The rest of the year I would go.
Jason Moore
I would go Ryan Matthews thinking about it.
Mike Wright
I was absolutely thinking about it because Darren Sproles was used in the two minute drill. He was used on third downs, but in short yardage on the goal line, it was Ryan Matthews. And I think as the year progresses, he also got kind of taken out of the game after he had that egregious middle of the field drop. He was gone for a quarter and you didn't see him. And I expect that it won't be that way going forward. So I think Ryan Matthews is still the guy that I would rather have. But I love Darren Sprouls more than I thought I would.
Andy Holloway
I have Darren Sprouls at 16 points this week, so I'll take the over.
Jason Moore
All right, that's interesting. All right, here is a question. Should I give him another chance from Richard in Manassas, Virginia. Who do you think he's talking about?
Andy Holloway
C.J.
Jason Moore
Anderson now? Eddie Royal, believe it or not.
Mike Wright
Oh yeah.
Jason Moore
Big hopes for him in week one with Alshon. Jeffrey. Probably not 100%. Is he somebody that you would give a second chance to?
Mike Wright
I would prefer to not start him. I would not cut him. I think he could. I mean, I still think he's got the same opportunity he had. I'm dying.
Andy Holloway
Did you eat a frog?
Mike Wright
I ate a quesarito. A quesarito from Chipotle. The good folks over at Chipotle. You can wrap a burrito in a quesadilla. It's not healthy. You might say it's a little double.
Jason Moore
Stuffed oh, it is.
Andy Holloway
Because it's a burrito stuffed inside a quesadilla.
Mike Wright
Yeah. What was the question? For real? Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Now I forgot he was daddy Royal.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Hold on to him. But if you've got a different flex option, I would stuff him in your.
Jason Moore
Quesarito, stick them on your bench and wait a week. All right, streaming defenses. Matt in Iowa wants to know what defense is the best defense to stream in Week 2. The Saints, Titans, Cardinals or Chiefs. Why don't we put those guys in order? So let's do the matchups here. Saints, who do they play?
Mike Wright
Buccaneers, Tampa Bay.
Jason Moore
And then the Titans play. Remember Cleveland, right?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
The Cardinals face the Bears and the Chiefs face the Broncos. So I put them at the bottom of the list because I just don't want to mess around with Peyton Manning. I don't care. Old D gets. I would go ahead.
Mike Wright
I'm going to go Saints first because I think the Buccaneers are in an implosion. I think the Cardinals second because they're. They're really the best defense of this group. And the Bears have a better offense. Then I would go Titans. Then I would go the Chiefs.
Jason Moore
I think. I agree. I'm not sure that the Cardinals are the best defense of that group. I think Kansas City might be better.
Andy Holloway
I would actually put the Chiefs too.
Jason Moore
Okay, I'll try it out.
Andy Holloway
It's on. You're coming off a short week. We still like Anderson, but he is banged up. He's.
Jason Moore
That game is in Arrowhead, though, right? Is that correct?
Andy Holloway
Yes, it is. It's in Kansas City.
Jason Moore
So that does. Yeah, that bodes well. They played really well there on Thursday night last year. If you remember that Patriot game.
Mike Wright
Short weeks, man, are awful for the offense. Always remember that from a standpoint of putting players in. And so, yeah, that. That actually does bode a little bit better for the Chiefs.
Jason Moore
All right, Brian in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Should he trade Abdullah for Emmanuel Sanders? Full point PPR league?
Andy Holloway
No, full point.
Mike Wright
See, in a full point PPR league, I think Emmanuel Sanders is even more of a value than he normally is. He's going to have a lot more receptions than Amir Abdullah. If this is a flex type of guy that you're upgrading or if your needs are at wide receiver and you've got depth at running back, then I would make.
Jason Moore
He already has Julio and Antonio Brown then. And his wider. His running backs are Lamar Miller, Ivory and Spiller. So there's no way I do this. Yeah.
Mike Wright
No way. This is a perfect example of a trade where you. You Cannot say this is a good trade. Make it. It completely depends on your roster.
Jason Moore
So many are. And that it's a great point because we see these value for value deals. You know, it's like, would you trade this guy for this guy? Well, maybe. Maybe I would if I needed to. You know, it's not just in all circumstances. Yes, that question right there is no in a lot of circumstances, and it's yes, in a lot of circumstances. Wouldn't you agree, Mike?
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
All right, so what. Real quick, though, what are your thoughts on Ronnie Hillman in general? If CJ is going to be okay, if we think he's going to be all right, which we don't know. What are your just general thoughts on Hillman as a. Like, where would you rank him on a weekly basis?
Andy Holloway
Bottom of the barrel, flex start. I really think that C.J. anderson's gonna get the work, and I. He was nicked up in the last game and just everything was. Nothing was working for the Broncos. So they. That's when they. They threw their hands in the air, they waved them around like they just don't care, and they put Ronnie Hillman in for some carries.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And then the toe injury.
Mike Wright
I would be really. If CJ's playing, I would have to be hard pressed to put Hillman in a lineup. I would want him on my roster, but I would not want him as a flex. There's a million wide receivers that I'd rather have in my flex than Ronnie Hillman.
Jason Moore
All right, who to start Ray in Valparaiso, Indiana, PPR league with return yards. Who to start in week two in the flex position? Chris Ivory or Tyler Lockett? Chris Ivory or Tyler Lockett? A PPR league with return yards. His running backs are Forte and Ingram. His wide receivers are Brown in Cobb, and he gets one point for every 10.
Mike Wright
Oh, that's. I was going to ask whether it was 10 or 25, man, that's. That actually makes it tough.
Andy Holloway
It does.
Jason Moore
I would start Tyler Lockett in a full PPR with return yards because of. He still caught, what, four passes this.
Andy Holloway
Week, I believe around.
Jason Moore
I mean, if he's going to catch a few balls, has the long play potential and he's going to return kicks.
Mike Wright
Man, that's tough. Ivory looks so good. His matchup is good. But then again, the Seahawks going against the Packers. Whoo.
Andy Holloway
I'm still starting Ivory. I want the guaranteed touches. I'm not going to bank on a huge return.
Jason Moore
All right, I'm gonna. I wanna remind everybody, too. When you send in your Questions, try to keep them brief and to the point so that we can fit them on the show. If you have a full roster rundown, we're just not gonna be able to do it on the show. So just a reminder, the quicker questions are easier. For instance, this quarterback question from Nate in Destin. He said, ryan Tannehill versus the Jaguars or Tom Brady versus the Bills.
Andy Holloway
Man, Ryan bringing the heat.
Jason Moore
I would. I would absolutely play Tannehill in this situation.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think you have to. It's. I think they're in Buffalo again, and Buffalo just manhandled Andrew Luck and I. Not that Tom Brady isn't a different caliber quarterback, but. Yeah, you got to go with Tannehill.
Mike Wright
Ryan's always had Tom Brady's number. I mean, Tom Brady scorched him a few times, but.
Andy Holloway
No, I thought you were talking about Ryan Tannehill and calling him Ryan like he was your.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I thought you mean. I thought you meant phone number.
Mike Wright
Yeah. No. Rexy. Is that better?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Rex always has had the Patriots. There's always close games, and he's got.
Mike Wright
A better lineup of defense now than he had at the Jets.
Jason Moore
If the Bills win this week, they'll have started 2.0having defeated the Colts and Patriots to begin the year.
Andy Holloway
That would feel pretty good.
Jason Moore
That is the best start to set up your collapse that they've done, that they've done in a while now. I'd like to see him succeed. I like Rex Ryan, believe it or not.
Andy Holloway
I don't believe it.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Well, there you go. All right, waiver question. I love this question because it is hilariously difficult to answer. All right, J.T. slapshot in Pittsburgh. He has Peyton Manning and Sam Bradford, but he really wants to claim Carson Palmer and start him this week. So what do you do in that situation? Because do you want to lose Peyton Manning or Sam Bradford?
Mike Wright
You try to trade them. I mean, that's one thing you could do if you really want. You know, for me, if I've got, like, let's say I'm just rolling Sam Bradford on my roster and I like Carson Palmer better this week, I have no problem dropping Sam Bradford to the waivers and picking up Carson Palmer and playing him. So in this position, I don't think it's that big a deal if you want to drop him, but if you're really wanting to do that, trade them. Try to get value instead of putting them to the waivers. Trying to do a two for one to open up a spot. Upgrade your lineup somewhere else and pick up Carson Palmer, who you Want anyways.
Andy Holloway
You can't drop Sammy Biscuits at this.
Jason Moore
Point, but that's my opinion, too.
Andy Holloway
And I love Carson Palmer, especially this week against the Bears. I think it's a great matchup. But here's The Cardinals next three weeks, 49ers, Rams, Lions, trouble. Those are not the best matchups for. Even for me as the. The ultimate Carson Palmer supporter, I might be looking for a better matchup in those weeks.
Jason Moore
And here's the thing. There's no guarantee Palmer dominates this matchup this week. And when you make a decision like this, you have to do what Mike just did and look forward a little bit and say, what gives me the best odds to win my matchups for the next three weeks. I feel like if you drop Sammy Bradford or Peyton and you go after Palmer this week, maybe you succeed in that decision making, but you might cost yourself over the next few weeks. You're going to have to really commit to a pure streaming quarterback type of system and trust that you can get guys. So I just kind of ride Bradford and play Bradford this week. That's what I would do.
Andy Holloway
And here's the Eagles upcoming schedule. So they have the Cowboys this week, which I think is a good matchup.
Jason Moore
Cowboys with no DEs.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think that's a good matchup. I was really surprised that Eli didn't take a better advantage of it. But the following weeks are the jets. So, so difficult. Then you have Washington and New Orleans right after that.
Jason Moore
Right, those.
Andy Holloway
And then followed by the Giants. So, I mean, you have. You have a great lineup coming up for Sammy Biscuits.
Jason Moore
Sammy Biscuits, who twisted his ankle, by the way.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Had an actual X ray on it that had been fun to do first game back. Have to go get an X ray even if you're fine.
Andy Holloway
I heard Superman did it.
Jason Moore
The X ray.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Real quick.
Jason Moore
He's a technician.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Oh, okay.
Andy Holloway
Do you know it's. Superman is surprisingly affordable as a team physician.
Jason Moore
I did not know that. I was not aware.
Andy Holloway
Now you know.
Jason Moore
Where does he live exactly?
Andy Holloway
He lives up north.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
In the. What is the Ottawa. No, basically. But with the Fortress of Solitude.
Jason Moore
There it is. Yeah. That's where Adrian Peterson was last night, basically. All right. All right. Bryson in Kansas City says who should he start? PPR league. Which is. Doesn't really matter for this question. Marcus Mariota, Colin Kaepernick, Tyrod Taylor this week. I know my answer, believe it or not. But give us those three again. Mariota. So that it would be.
Mike Wright
Mariota is going up against the Browns.
Jason Moore
Kaepernick Kaepernick is.
Andy Holloway
Doesn't matter.
Jason Moore
It does matter. He's my pick.
Mike Wright
Really?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
He's going up against the Steelers terrible defense.
Jason Moore
That's why he's my pick.
Mike Wright
All right, and then who is Tyrod Taylor against?
Andy Holloway
The Patriots. I think that's my pick.
Mike Wright
I am.
Jason Moore
Oh, you're crazy.
Mike Wright
I am not.
Jason Moore
Because you're picking Tyrod Taylor against the one coach that's going to scheme him to death. You want to water BET Kaepernick vs. Tyra Taylor this week?
Andy Holloway
Yes, I do.
Mike Wright
Write it down.
Jason Moore
And ironically, it's about time I have some shares of Kaepernick in something.
Mike Wright
Yeah, and ironically, I'm going to take Mariota here against the.
Jason Moore
Wait, wait, wait. Double water situation.
Mike Wright
How would we.
Andy Holloway
The triangle of doom.
Jason Moore
The winners dry, the losers aren't.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Triple wait. Come on.
Mike Wright
Oh, oh. Okay. So whoever finishes last.
Jason Moore
No, the two people that fail. Two of us were fail. Jason. Oh, man. There's Kaepernick.
Andy Holloway
Only one?
Jason Moore
Yeah. I am Colin Kaepernick. You are Marcus Mariota and Mike is Tyrette Taylor.
Mike Wright
Give me that Mariota water bet.
Jason Moore
There is no way we're not forcing that upon Jason regardless of what his desires were. The chance for a three way water bet.
Andy Holloway
So this has never been done.
Jason Moore
Never been done.
Andy Holloway
Triangle.
Jason Moore
Listen, me and Trent Dilfer are. And Colin Kaepernick are going all the way. Have you seen his mechanics? Read number one. Read number two. That errant.
Mike Wright
Just watch his eyes. Look at his eyes.
Jason Moore
That errant throw. That errant throw was a great errant throw.
Mike Wright
Let me tell you why. Even though he passed four yards behind the guy, this was a perfect placed ball.
Jason Moore
Yeah, we're referring to trend overs. Spectacular. Commentating on Monday Night Football handcuff question. Where do you draw the line on useful players on your bench versus handcuffs who will be very valuable if an injury occurs? For example, my team, would you drop Crowell Woodhead or Brian Quick for a guy like Niall Davis or Ronnie Hillman?
Andy Holloway
I would drop Brian Quick for one of them, yes.
Jason Moore
Let me ask you a follow up for me personally. In one of my leagues, I have Frank Gore. I have Josh Robinson. How do you. I mean, if you pick up a handcuff, are you just kind of committing to staying with the handcuff the entire year? Because I tend to get a little stir crazy with the handcuff on my team for the entire season for both guys. I mean, it's one thing to have that bench spot in a limited bench league taken up. It's another if it's like week after week and you're getting no production from that and you're like, oh, man, I wish I would have signed this guy. Like, do you just stick it out?
Mike Wright
I think what happens is it's dependent upon the success of the starter. So if, if your starter is blowing up and he's a cog in your team, he is a necessary piece. You have to have him in that running back spot. Then you know he's going to be in your starting lineup week after week and you hold on to Josh Robinson so that if he goes out, you've got him. But if Frank Gore starts being a guy that you're not even sure you're flexing him in and you're playing matchups and things like that, you, you don't want to hold up two roster spots for a guy that is some weeks not going to be in your starting lineup.
Andy Holloway
And it's, it's all always about the situation combined with the talent of the guy in the back where we think Josh Robinson would get the lion's share if he came in. And handcuffs are very similar, which is something we've been talking about. Where is. It's a lot like health care, health and paying health insurance. Health insurance premiums is the absolute worst when you are healthy, right. And you can go through it forever and paying out, paying out, paying out, pay. But then that one time that you need it where you need it, you're.
Jason Moore
Like, hey, I'm not broke. Yeah. Yeah, that's what a handcuff does. It's a pretty, pretty perfect analogy. All right, for Thursday and Friday this week we've got your fantasy forecast. We'll be previewing the games for week two. On Thursday and Friday we will have our starts of the week and we will have those tomorrow on Thursday. Okay. Oh, tomorrow we will have the starts of the week.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
We will also have the Thursday Night Football preview and then on Friday we have some daily dose for your daily fantasy sports love. There a lot of people playing FanDuel and DraftKings and if you weren't playing those, then you have seen 100,000 commercials for them.
Andy Holloway
Oh, my goodness.
Mike Wright
Play them. Play FanDuel specifically and like with promo code ball ballers.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And if you have more questions, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. you can join the Foot Clan fantasy football community@jointhefoot.com and it's just a great group of people sharing information, sharing injury news, answering questions, giving perspective. Because there's a lot of different perspective for every trade and every league type and those type of things. So it's good to bounce those things off people. Makes a difference. Hopefully you had a very good week one. We're hoping for a very good week two. We'll bring our starts of the week and we'll preview all those games. Do you have any thoughts, Mike? You look like you're about to say something.
Andy Holloway
On Friday we unveil our stream streaming Quarterback of the Week where we will attempt to take a very low percentage percentage owned quarterback and build a quarterback one and we'll see how that goes.
Mike Wright
Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter @the ffballers.
Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Episode - Week 2 Mailbag Questions, Trade Questions, Start/Sit (September 16, 2015)
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
The Fantasy Footballers return for their Week 2 Mailbag episode, diving deep into listener questions about trades, start/sit dilemmas, and waiver wire pickups. The hosts bring their signature blend of analysis, humor, and actionable advice to help listeners navigate the early weeks of the fantasy football season.
a. Dropping Joy Bell for Chris Johnson
Listener Tony Meatballs posed a question about whether to drop Joy Bell in favor of acquiring a player like Chris Johnson, expressing frustration with Joy Bell's performance.
Jason Moore: "Should I drop Joycoyle, maybe for like, a Chris Johnson type? I think the timer is up on him." [05:52]
Mike Wright: "You absolutely do not drop Joyk O. Bell. And he's... gonna be fine." [07:45]
Andy Holloway: "He's going to get all the goal line work. I just, I'm not moving him right now." [14:29]
Conclusion: The hosts unanimously advised against dropping Joy Bell, emphasizing his potential for increased workload as the season progresses.
b. Dropping Trey Mason for David Johnson
Another listener, Ryan Matthews, questioned whether to trade Trey Mason for David Johnson, considering their team’s running back core.
Mike Wright: "I would say do it. That would be my opinion. If I could pick up both of those guys on the waiver and they were both there, I would pick up David Johnson." [08:33]
Andy Holloway: "I would... the upside of Dave Johnson longer term is higher." [08:52]
Jason Moore: "You have other guys and Tre Mason is not inevitable to be in your lineup." [08:41]
Conclusion: The hosts recommended trading Trey Mason for David Johnson, highlighting Johnson's higher long-term upside and Mason's situational value.
a. Choosing Between Brandon McManus and Josh Brown
Listener Michael from South Carolina asked whether to start Brandon McManus over Josh Brown.
Mike Wright: "I like Brandon McManus. I would pick him up over half the league." [09:51]
Jason Moore: "I've got it. How did the missed extra points work out for people?" [10:27]
Conclusion: Brandon McManus was favored as the superior kicker choice, with Mike Wright endorsing his reliability over Josh Brown.
a. Trading CJ Anderson for Mark Ingram and Pierre Garcon
Listener Joey in Boca Raton inquired about trading CJ Anderson for Mark Ingram and Pierre Garcon in a PPR league.
Andy Holloway: "That's. No, I'm not going to do it. I'm still... Chris Ivory can be a solid two all year long." [16:20]
Jason Moore: "I would not make the trade. No, I don't, I don't, you know, draft a guy in the top five, six, seven in the draft and trade him in week two almost." [17:31]
Conclusion: The hosts advised against the trade, citing CJ Anderson's potential and the importance of maintaining strong running back depth early in the season.
b. Trading Abdullah for Emmanuel Sanders
Listener Brian from Grand Rapids questioned trading Amir Abdullah for Emmanuel Sanders in a full-point PPR league.
Mike Wright: "See, in a full point PPR league, I think Emmanuel Sanders is even more of a value than he normally is." [26:13]
Andy Holloway: "No, full point." [26:15]
Conclusion: While Emmanuel Sanders has increased value in PPR formats, the hosts suggested that such a trade depends heavily on the specific team roster and needs, with no definitive recommendation.
a. Replacing Des Bryant
Listener Luke, who lost Des Bryant due to injury, sought advice on picking up DeAndy Moncrief or Percy Harvin.
Andy Holloway: "Moncrief for sure." [18:33]
Mike Wright: "He had a 50 yard touchdown and... five receptions for 79 yards." [18:43]
Conclusion: DeAndy Moncrief was recommended as the preferred waiver pickup to replace Des Bryant, offering consistent production.
Listener Kyle from Shelton, Washington, faced a challenging flex decision with limited options.
Jason Moore: "I agree with that one. And that one's a little harder to." [21:19]
Mike Wright: "That is the type of team where I would look to package... for another absolutely elite top of the Hill." [21:20]
Conclusion: The hosts suggested selecting the most reliable players for the flex position while considering potential two-for-one trades to optimize the lineup.
Listener Jason Moore from Destin expressed concerns about managing handcuffs and bench players without seeing consistent production.
Mike Wright: "If your starter is blowing up... you hold on to Josh Robinson so that if he goes out, you've got him." [36:22]
Andy Holloway: "It's a lot like health care... you get the chance when you really need it." [37:32]
Conclusion: The hosts emphasized the importance of balancing handcuffs with valuable bench players, depending on the starter's performance and injury risk.
Listener Matt from Iowa sought advice on which defense to stream for Week 2.
Mike Wright: "I'm going to go Saints first because I think the Buccaneers are in an implosion." [25:11]
Jason Moore: "I agree. I'm not sure that the Cardinals are the best defense of that group." [25:28]
Conclusion: The Saints defense was recommended as the top streaming option for Week 2, followed by the Cardinals, Titans, and Chiefs.
Listener Nate from Destin asked whether to start Ryan Tannehill or Tom Brady.
Jason Moore: "I would absolutely play Tannehill in this situation." [29:32]
Andy Holloway: "I think they're in Buffalo again, and Buffalo just manhandled Andrew Luck." [29:34]
Mike Wright: "Ryan's always had Tom Brady's number." [30:00]
Conclusion: Ryan Tannehill was favored over Tom Brady for Week 2 due to favorable matchups and recent performance dynamics.
a. Chris Ivory vs. Tyler Lockett
Listener Ray from Valparaiso, Indiana, faced a flex position decision between Chris Ivory and Tyler Lockett in a PPR league with return yards.
Jason Moore: "I would start Tyler Lockett in a full PPR with return yards." [28:35]
Andy Holloway: "I'm still starting Ivory. I want the guaranteed touches." [29:07]
Conclusion: The hosts were split, with Tyler Lockett being favored for his receptions and return potential, while Chris Ivory was preferred for his guaranteed touches.
James Jones Waiver Pickup: Early in the episode, the hosts discussed the value of James Jones on the waiver wire, highlighting his affordability and potential impact.
Jason Moore: "Everyone should have done it and you should have James Jones on your team now for $100." [00:59]
Andy Holloway: "I'm both F, A, B O. I was lying." [01:05]
Handling Injuries and Player Upsides: The hosts emphasized the importance of assessing player potential and managing injuries proactively to maintain a competitive roster throughout the season.
Community Engagement: The Fantasy Footballers encouraged listeners to join their Foot Clan community for exclusive content and interactive discussions, enhancing the collaborative experience.
The episode wrapped up with the hosts outlining upcoming content, including game previews, start-of-week recommendations, and daily fantasy sports insights. They also promoted their streaming quarterback of the week feature and highlighted the benefits of joining their Foot Clan community for ongoing support and information sharing.
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