Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 3 Fantasy Forecast, Starts of the Week, TNF Preview, News

Summary

Summary of "Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast" Episode: Week 3 Fantasy Forecast, Starts of the Week, TNF Preview, News

Podcast Information:

• Title: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast
• Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
• Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 3 Fantasy Forecast, Starts of the Week, TNF Preview, News
• Release Date: September 24, 2015

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Introduction

The Fantasy Footballers kick off their Week 3 episode with their signature blend of humor, camaraderie, and insightful analysis. The hosts—Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright—engage in light-hearted banter before diving into the core content of the show.

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News and Notes

Injury Updates and Roster Implications

• Eddie Lacy’s Injury Status (07:08):

  • Discussion: Eddie Lacy's potential game-time decision status is a central topic. The hosts explore the dilemma fantasy managers face if Lacy remains uncertain for the upcoming Monday Night game.
  • Andy Holloway: "Lacey's testing it out. He'll probably be a game time decision." [07:56]
  • Advice: Ensure you have backup options like James Starks or Niall Davis if Lacy is sidelined.

• Brandon Cooks and Drew Brees (08:48):

  • Discussion: Brandon Cooks missed practice with an ankle injury, but Drew Brees is likely to play, which could benefit Cooks' fantasy value.
  • Mike Wright: "It has to be better for Brandon Cooks that Drew Brees is playing than not playing." [09:22]
  • Advice: Keep an eye on Cooks' status; his involvement could increase if Brees is active.

• Ladarius Green’s Concussion (09:30):

  • Discussion: Ladarius Green suffered a second concussion, raising concerns about his availability.
  • Mike Wright: "Ladarius Green, second concussion in about two weeks. That is bad news, man." [09:51]
  • Advice: Remove Green from your roster to protect his health and avoid potential future absences.

• DeMarco Murray’s Hamstring Injury (10:13):

  • Discussion: DeMarco Murray is dealing with a hamstring injury, leading to uncertainty about his playing status.
  • Mike Wright: "If you have not planned a backup situation... you got to start somebody else on Sunday." [10:49]
  • Advice: Consider trading Murray or securing a reliable replacement to mitigate the risk.

• Other Notable Injuries:

  • Alshon Jeffrey: Limited participation with a concussion, likely out.
  • DeAndre Hopkins: Concussion status affects his availability and requires backup plans.

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Fantasy Forecast

Matchup Analysis and Player Recommendations

• Thursday Night Football: Redskins vs. Giants (21:57):

  • Discussion: Redskins favored by three points against the Giants with an over/under of 44. The focus is on how Washington's strong run game will counter New York's solid run defense.
  • Jason Moore: "I don't think Kirk Cousins is going to implode. Washington's run game is legit." [22:50]
  • Advice: Consider starting Washington's running backs who capitalize on their robust rushing offense.

• Bengals vs. Ravens (25:47):

  • Discussion: Debate revolves around whether to start Andy Dalton against the Ravens. Mike expresses caution due to recent performance, while Andy believes in Dalton's offensive support.
  • Mike Wright: "I'm not feeling confident streaming him yet." [30:05]
  • Andy Holloway: Highlights Dalton's weapons: "The weapons are immense... they're cruising on offense right now." [27:52]
  • Advice: Evaluate Dalton's matchup and recent performance before deciding to start him.

• Raiders vs. Browns (29:40):

  • Discussion: Derek Carr as a streaming option is questioned. Concerns about Carr's decision-making and the Browns' defensive performance.
  • Mike Wright: "Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that." [30:44]
  • Jason Moore: Emphasizes Amari Cooper's impact on the game plan against the Browns' secondary. [30:20]
  • Advice: Consider Carr's consistency and the Browns' pass defense when making quarterback decisions.

• Saints vs. Panthers (34:40):

  • Discussion: Focus on Cam Newton's potential against a strong Panthers defense. Debate over Alvin Kamara's role and Kyle Rudolph's usage.
  • Andy Holloway: "I really love Cam Newton this week." [45:25]
  • Jason Moore: "Kyle Rudolph... expect him to get a touchdown." [51:00]
  • Advice: Leveraging Newton's dual-threat capability and Rudolph's touchdown potential could be advantageous.

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Starts of the Week

Quarterbacks

• Mike Wright: Tyrod Taylor

  • Rationale: Dual-threat capabilities with significant rushing yards, supported by Washington's strong run game.
  • Andy Holloway: "Tyrod Taylor is just... he has capable weapons from under his hips that are glorious legs." [44:22]

• Jason Moore: Alex Smith

  • Rationale: Facing a high-scoring Green Bay defense, expects a bounce-back game with Jamal Charles and Zeus.
  • Jason Moore: "I feel like Alex Smith has a bounce back game here." [44:57]

• Andy Holloway: Cam Newton

  • Rationale: Increased running opportunities against a disorganized New Orleans defense.
  • Andy Holloway: "Cam Newton... he's taken 10 and 11 carries in their two games." [45:25]

Running Backs

• Andy Holloway: TJ Yelden

  • Rationale: Sneaky play due to limited competition for running backs on the New England roster.
  • Andy Holloway: "I think Yelden is a sneaky play." [46:33]

• Jason Moore: Melvin Gordon

  • Rationale: High-powered running against Minnesota's weak run defense, expecting a dominant performance.
  • Jason Moore: "Melvin Gordon... is going to be a perfect storm here." [46:46]

• Mike Wright: C.J. Anderson

  • Rationale: Productive against Detroit's soft run defense, backed by a strong offensive line.
  • Mike Wright: "I like Anderson to bounce back." [47:08]

Wide Receivers

• Mike Wright: Michael Crabtree

  • Rationale: High target volume against the Jets, fifth in the league with 24 targets.
  • Mike Wright: "24 targets. That's fifth in the league." [48:23]

• Jason Moore: Brandon Marshall

  • Rationale: Anticipates a high number of targets due to weakened Eagles defense.
  • Jason Moore: "He's getting a ton of targets this week." [48:58]

• Andy Holloway: Mike Evans

  • Rationale: Increased opportunities following an injury and strong rapport with Drew Brees.
  • Andy Holloway: "I have him as a sneaky start this week." [49:25]

Tight Ends

• Andy Holloway: Jimmy Graham

  • Rationale: High target volume against Chicago and consistent route running.
  • Andy Holloway: "I really like Jimmy Graham this week." [49:25]

• Jason Moore: Kyle Rudolph

  • Rationale: Expecting touchdown opportunities against a solid pass defense.
  • Jason Moore: "We expect Kyle Rudolph to get a touchdown." [51:00]

• Mike Wright: Jordan Reed

  • Rationale: High target volume and favorable matchup against the Giants' tight end defense.
  • Mike Wright: "He's a fantastic talent... he's in my lineup." [52:07]

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Player Highlights and Recommendations

• Julian Edelman:

  • Discussion: Tied with Julio Jones for most catches through two games, positioning him as an underdrafted PPR machine.
  • Andy Holloway: "Julian Edelman is the answer. So is he your underdrafted of the year right now?" [04:37]

• Tyrod Taylor:

  • Performance: Three touchdowns last week against New England, raising his fantasy floor.
  • Andy Holloway: "Three touchdowns last week against a New England defense that has not looked... good." [06:39]

• A.J. Green:

  • Discussion: Despite some limited targets, his upside and elite status make him a valuable start.
  • Mike Wright: "If you have A.J. green, I'm not starting those other guys ahead of him just because of upside." [28:50]

• Brandon Marshall vs. Eric Decker:

  • Advice: With Decker limited, Marshall becomes a more attractive option due to increased targets.

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Conclusion

The Fantasy Footballers provide a comprehensive analysis for Week 3, offering valuable insights into player performances, injury implications, and strategic starts. Managers are encouraged to stay updated with player news, leverage the recommended starts, and engage with the community for further advice and support.

Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway: "Julian Edelman is the answer. So is he your underdrafted of the year right now?" [04:37]
• Jason Moore: "I feel like Alex Smith has a bounce back game here." [44:57]
• Mike Wright: "Tyrod Taylor is just... he has capable weapons from under his hips that are glorious legs." [44:22]

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Final Remarks: Stay engaged with the Fantasy Footballers through their website thefantasyfootballers.com, join their community at jointhefoot.com, and follow them on Twitter @the_ffballers for ongoing tips and updates.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, It's Mar Bryant, aka Marty McBride.

[Jason Moore]

And you listen to the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Welcome to the Fantasy footballers Podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Thursday.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. That's accurate football day.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Thursday, September 24, 2015, week three of of the NFL season. And we are the fantasy footballers back again like we are every single day of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Like the Backstreet Boys.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's not what. That was. Hanson. Oh, all right. You sang Hanson.

[Mike Wright]

Guess who's back. Oh, no, that's Eminem. I. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know what. Backstreet Boys. Oh, Backstreet's back. All right. That's where I was going.

[Andy Holloway]

You're bringing me back to sixth grade.

[Mike Wright]

You're welcome.

[Andy Holloway]

Grade I.

[Jason Moore]

When you had a Backstreet Boys poster.

[Andy Holloway]

In your room and backpack, you didn't. Backpack. Backstreet Boys backpack. That's a pretty good hashtag right there. Welcome to the show. My name is Andy Holloway. I'm joined by Jason Moore and Mike the fantasy Hitman. Right?

[Jason Moore]

Mm.

[Andy Holloway]

We are the fantasy footballers and we are on the fantasy sports network. You can check us out on there. If you're watching us on YouTube, click that subscribe button, leave us some comments, talk about the show. We're on Twitter heffballers. And if you have a fantasy football question, we try to answer some of those every show. And you can do that on thefantasyfootballers.com click the submit a question button. You can also talk to one another. We have a large Listener community on jointhefoot.com that you'll want to check out as well. Today we have a really great show. We have a bunch of news and notes. We'll get you all caught up on the fantasy football injury news. Who's starting all the. All the latest things going on because we have a lot of questions, especially with the quarterback position. We have our fantasy forecast today. We're going to start walking through the games this week, which is exciting. We have a Thursday night game tonight as well. The Redskins and the Giants. And we have our starts of the week today. You guys going to bring it?

[Mike Wright]

It's. It's the anniversary of Larry Donnell.

[Andy Holloway]

Donald.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I've. I've been. I've been told that that's actually the correct way that you say that name.

[Andy Holloway]

You've been told by who?

[Mike Wright]

People.

[Andy Holloway]

People. Not Denel.

[Mike Wright]

Experts. Experts in the field. Really?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Don't they say Donnell on every.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm proceeding with Danelle based On everyone else in the world. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

It sounded weird when you said it.

[Mike Wright]

I know, because that's. But these things happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, whatever.

[Mike Wright]

Donnell, Donnell, Donal, who cares? Larry, Larry Donut.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a three touchdown anniversary.

[Mike Wright]

This was when he exploded.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, how funny would that be that he's on Thursday night again and won't do that?

[Mike Wright]

It would be great.

[Jason Moore]

Is that anybody start of the week?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I have a fun. Quick question.

[Mike Wright]

Did you fall asleep?

[Andy Holloway]

Quick questions. I've got a little game for us to play. You guys ready?

[Jason Moore]

I'm ready.

[Andy Holloway]

I have three questions and you guys have to. You don't know what they are. The answer, you don't want to play.

[Mike Wright]

The really cool drop.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't have that right here. So three questions for you. You guys have to guess the answer. This is basically some interesting stats. The fantasy season through week two. Try to figure out who I'm talking about and then I got some questions for you. So number one, this team leads the NFL in turnover differential through the first two weeks, only turning the ball over two times and causing 10 takeaways.

[Jason Moore]

The Jets.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to go with the Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

It is the Jets. Yeah. Ryan Fitzpatrick, the gunslinger has been actually quite careful with the ball. No fumbles for the Jets. So the question is a good start this week at home against the bumbling Philadelphia Eagles. Yes, absolutely. No. No fear. Sometimes I start a defense against like the Lions or a high profile offense, even if they're struggling and you have that fear that they're going to find their way against your defense. No worries.

[Jason Moore]

This week I think they're. They're so. Even if they score points, you can still score points.

[Andy Holloway]

The Revis brothers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Darren and Darrell Revis are going to really bring it today, I think.

[Mike Wright]

Why he's so good? Because he's two.

[Jason Moore]

Since Darren Revis has come up this year, he's really, he's really come back on.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, all right, next question. Julio Jones and this wide receiver are tied with 22 catches through two games, tops in the league.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's Julian Edelman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, Julian Edelman is the answer. So is he your underdrafted of the year right now?

[Mike Wright]

He's always the underdrafted PPR machine because he's disgusting.

[Andy Holloway]

But beyond PPR, two touchdowns last week as well. 11 for 97 both weeks.

[Jason Moore]

I believe that he is the full blown Wes Welker. I mean we hoped he would turn into that a couple years ago and since he didn't sounds like a disease.

[Andy Holloway]

Like he's got a full blown Case of Wes Welker.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, dude, I had the Welker last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you?

[Mike Wright]

It was disgusting.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that the concussions?

[Jason Moore]

I like them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It's a head trauma.

[Jason Moore]

I like him a lot going forward. He's definitely in my. I think he is wide receiver number nine. So he's a wide receiver one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And just with. With how many targets he's catching, he just. He's in your lineup every single week.

[Andy Holloway]

There's.

[Mike Wright]

There's no defense now. If they crush the Bills, there is no defense that I'm sitting my Patriots against.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got a harder one here. I'm gonna see if you guys can get this through two games. This player is seventh among all players in fantasy points, trailing only Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, Antonio Brown, Rob Gronkowski, and Aaron Rodgers.

[Mike Wright]

So it's any position in their seventh.

[Andy Holloway]

They are seventh among all players in fantasy points.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like it's got to be a quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a. Interesting one.

[Jason Moore]

Hmm.

[Mike Wright]

Did you. So you said Palmer.

[Andy Holloway]

I did. I said trailing Brady, Big Ben, Palmer, Brown, Antonio Brown, Rob Gronkowski, and Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna go a little.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll give you just a couple more deeper here.

[Jason Moore]

Deeper. And I'm gonna go. Tyrod Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

It is Tyrod Taylor, number seven. Is it time to take Tyrod Taylor seriously in the fantasy world?

[Mike Wright]

I took him seriously last week, my friends and I, when I played him.

[Jason Moore]

I believe you will also be taking him seriously later in this episode.

[Mike Wright]

Tyrod Taylor, man, the dude gets it done. And we'll. Yeah, we'll talk about him.

[Andy Holloway]

Three touchdowns last week against a New England defense that has not looked. It's looked okay at times. It's looked pretty bad on the run game at times. So Tyred Taylor, number seven. That's pretty crazy, right? Because I don't know how what a start percentage is right now, but it's not as high as it probably should be.

[Jason Moore]

He was mentioned on our, you know, pre draft, our sleeper show, our last sleeper show. We mentioned him as a guy to pick up in those quarterback important leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, guys, let's talk about some news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We have a lot of news that we need to cover. People want to know, you know, with the Thursday night games and the Monday night games, injuries are not so simple in terms of fantasy decisions. I mean, we had a league yesterday where the owner of Eddie Lacey chose to not really spend any fab on James Starks. And now I kind of understand. Okay, if you think Lacey's going to be okay, you don't want to spend your fab budget, your waiver priority on Starks. But Lacey is playing on Monday night. So what is your option if Lacey becomes a game time decision? I mean, I have a strong suspicion that that's the news we're going to hear this week is okay. Lacey's testing it out. He'll probably be a game time decision.

[Mike Wright]

I completely agree. And if you have not planned a backup situation for that to happen on Monday night and your backup situation at.

[Andy Holloway]

Running back on Monday night, it's going.

[Jason Moore]

To be James Starks or bust.

[Andy Holloway]

Or Niall Davis.

[Jason Moore]

Right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You don't have an option.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

By backup option, I mean a guy you have to play on Sunday and just eat it. Basically you have to eat the sandwich. That is maybe Lacey starts and he does fine.

[Andy Holloway]

If you don't have Starks and you're a game time decision, you got to start somebody else on Sunday.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't love starting either of those guys. I think you don't love what starting either of those guys. This week against Kansas City, you've got a hobbled Eddie Lacy or a backup, James Starks.

[Mike Wright]

James Starks has looked good.

[Jason Moore]

He has, he has. But Kansas City, Lacey's back.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't bench him though because you don't know what the hobble ratio is. And he can score touchdowns. Yeah, but the hobble ratio is difficult.

[Jason Moore]

We go full circle back to the Monday night thing where you just can't trust.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go. So, all right, so injury wise, Brandon Cooks didn't practice. We.

[Mike Wright]

It sounds like it's not serious though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, an ankle injury. I mean, first day of the week, a lot of guys get days off if they're been hurt.

[Jason Moore]

And bad vibes for the Saints not good.

[Andy Holloway]

Although this morning news broke that Brees is very likely to play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he played last week too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Against a far inferior defense.

[Andy Holloway]

It has to be better for Brandon Cooks that Drew Brees is playing than not playing.

[Jason Moore]

I wondered that. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, even a 65% Drew Brees is better than the cell phone man Luke McCown throwing the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So Ladarius Green has a second concussion not diagnosed until yesterday. And so I don't know how many people are starting Ladarius Green, but it's time to usher him back into the vault of irrelevance.

[Mike Wright]

And that's what's. I can't remember the Colts receiver who had got Peyton Manning would get this guy concussed all the Time.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, I liked that.

[Mike Wright]

I liked that happening.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Holly Austin Collie.

[Mike Wright]

But ladarius Green, second concussion in about two weeks. That is. That's bad news, man. You need to take a break. I understand this your profession, but you don't want to die.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So he saw yesterday, big news.

[Mike Wright]

Twitter blew up.

[Andy Holloway]

DeMarco Murray comes off the practice field with a hamstring injury. And the report comes out immediately that they're doing an MRI on the hamstring. The initial report is that it's not supposed to be a major injury, but that does not mean he's playing this week. So Ryan Matthews, owners, Darren Sprouls, owners. See, that's the first thing I did, believe it or not, is I went out and I went to get Sprols from the owners of Darren Sprouls. Because if a game takes place without DeMarco Murray, Darren sprolls might have more value than Matthews. To me, or at the same, I.

[Mike Wright]

Can agree with that. Against the jets, it was already going to be a rough matchup for DeMarco Murray. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The price for Sprawls is probably cheaper than Matthews on an injury. You can get Sprawls cheaper.

[Mike Wright]

And it was, it was a very funny situation of how many questions I fielded yesterday. Do I drop Ryan Matthews and then.

[Andy Holloway]

Like before the news, yes.

[Mike Wright]

And then it was. I was saying, no, you can't drop him. And then boom. Ryan Matthews, hamstring.

[Jason Moore]

Let me ask this thing because I got a lot of these questions after the news broke. Should I trade Ryan Matthews to try to get value from him during this injury? What do you guys think about that? Injury comes all of a sudden. The guy you've had on your bench awaiting the value has value. Do you take advantage of that value by having him and playing him or by trading him?

[Andy Holloway]

I vote the trade route most often.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't have an established workload or expectation or production from Matthews just because he has opportunity. And so if you can get value, that represents those three things I named. That's kind of the angle I take because somebody's freaking out with demarco Murray. They spent a high pick on him and they're probably willing to give you something pretty valuable to ensure that position.

[Jason Moore]

It's always one of those trick questions. Right. Because it's a matter of value.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And if you're, you don't just trade them because we say, oh, that's what you do. It's, it's. Can you get something of real good long term value from A guy who might just be a one week.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask you, Jason, would we be talking about that differently though, if, if Philadelphia's offense had been gangbusters? I mean, then you see this huge opportunity for Ryan Matthews because you're like, oh, DeMarco went out and he had 200 yards and 10, 10 catches in the first two games. He struggled. So I think our perception of Ryan Matthews is probably different.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with that. The jets really is the tiebreaker here is. I don't expect them to turn it around on the jets this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

But hamstring injuries, if you've got Matthews and you can't get value for him, hamstring injuries tend to leak back and.

[Mike Wright]

They can get worse really easy.

[Andy Holloway]

Alshon Jeffrey did not practice. Do we expect him to play?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think so.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you expect Cutler to play?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

They're now saying he might play after.

[Andy Holloway]

Ruling it was the new Bears continue to spend a large amount of their time on injury manipulation stories. Have you seen. I mean.

[Mike Wright]

No. It's why the advantage they've got has been tremendous.

[Jason Moore]

It's really working out.

[Mike Wright]

They are almost, almost in every game.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to take a quick detour.

[Jason Moore]

Bears related that's sad because they're not even almost barely in a game.

[Andy Holloway]

We, we did not talk about this last week and I apologize for that. Jeremy Lankford took a touchdown away from Matt Forte last week.

[Mike Wright]

He took some serious snaps and Matt.

[Andy Holloway]

Forte has been a little bit banged up. Do we buy into. I mean among all the handcuffs you could sign, is Jeremy Langford somebody that.

[Jason Moore]

You should consider signing only if you've got Forte? In my opinion, I think there's better options to have as handcuffs. Generally speaking right now around the league.

[Mike Wright]

He'S a bench stash and he watching him because it was the Cardinal game. He looked, he looked fine. He looked pretty fast just for that, the old eyeball test. But that's, that's been the question with Forte. We. I personally had to really eat my words after week one where he looked just he looked where Forte looked spry. He was getting fully used. But my concern was always could he hold up for the long term. And they're already working in other running backs. So it's. I'm not selling Forte. That's not what I'm advising right now.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

But. But it's something that you need to keep in mind.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and he was limited and if he's limited and they've already worked Lankford into the rotation a little bit. I think the workload is going to be decreased, possibly. All right, so Victor Cruz is out, arian Foster. Bill O'Brien said he doesn't expect him to play, but if you read the quote, I really believe that Bill O'Brien is playing games. I really, really do. Have you. Did you read the quote?

[Jason Moore]

I saw it and I remember thinking, okay, so he's not out.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly, but I don't expect him to play. If I had to choose one direction based on that quote, I'd say no. But he said, I'm not sure about this week, but I would say sooner rather than later.

[Jason Moore]

So, Andy, are you going to be watching your roster at, you know, 9:00 Pacific?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then. And then if he's in, you're going to. You're going to put him in ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, let me ask you guys, what would you do in my situation? I have TJ Eldon against the New England Patriots, Jonathan Stewart against New Orleans, Chris Ivey against Philadelphia, but Philly might not have their linebackers. And then I have Arian Foster sitting on my bench against Tampa bay, who's the 25th against the run. I think you bench if you. If Foster's in.

[Jason Moore]

If it was my team, I would bench none of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, that's fair. I mean, just don't know yet.

[Jason Moore]

And you've got three decent options. Aryan could easily outperform all three of them, but he could also go in for a couple touches as a warm up game, get five touches for probably 50 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

And now you are the person I'm playing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So don't play Arian Foster is what I'm saying. Just don't play.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you do, Mike? I play Arian Foster.

[Mike Wright]

I don't. I don't know right now. I don't know of those three who I bench because I like all three of those guys.

[Andy Holloway]

I might be able to withstand a victory if I play it by benching.

[Jason Moore]

Is not as easy to withstand victories.

[Andy Holloway]

It's such a burden on my life to take them on. Let's talk Dolphins. Lamar Miller didn't practice. Jonas Gray is doing the roster dance all year long on all these teams.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, back and forth.

[Andy Holloway]

He was cut, then practice. Squat, then active, then cut, then active, then practice.

[Mike Wright]

And now he's back on the active. So it sounds like the Dolphins are at least preparing for Lamar Miller to.

[Andy Holloway]

Sit out or being limited.

[Mike Wright]

Right. It was already a situation where I'm probably.

[Andy Holloway]

I told everybody, bench.

[Mike Wright]

That sucks.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you playing Lamar Miller?

[Jason Moore]

Nope. He is on my bench.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

It's a tough matchup this week. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Jordan Cameron hopes to play.

[Mike Wright]

They said he was moving around decently on the side for practice. He had a groin injury, so that's a. We'll wait and see.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh McCown was cleared. He is going to start. Manziel's back on the bench, and there is one player that I think this affects.

[Mike Wright]

Benjamin.

[Andy Holloway]

Benjamin.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

He has seemingly had a rapport with Manziel, and his catches have been limited and his production has been limited. So if you. If you spent a lot on Benjamin, you might be disappointed this week.

[Mike Wright]

I can't believe they're going back to McCown.

[Jason Moore]

I can't.

[Andy Holloway]

Well.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, I can.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm saying I would go back to McCown because Manziel turns the ball over too much. Yeah, but four fumbles in two games.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, not only that, but I don't think there was anything to change what the entire idea of your offseason, all your practice, all your game plan, all of that. I mean, did this last game, they literally rolled Manziel on every single pass play. It's not this. It's not the. The game plan that they came into the season.

[Andy Holloway]

They did win, though.

[Jason Moore]

Fair enough.

[Andy Holloway]

They did win. And they have a winnable matchup this week if they play well. All right, so the last bit of news. DeAndre Hopkins.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you hearing about him?

[Mike Wright]

Apparently he has a concussion out of nowhere that nobody knew about, and it just popped up on the reports yesterday. So he's in the protocol. It. It could be rough for him to actually make it through and. And test out of the protocol to play this weekend. So if you have Hopkins, you need to have backup options.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Okay. I agree with that. It is week three, and that is week three of FanDuel, my friends. A lot of good games coming up this week. A lot of interesting FanDuel plays, including, I think, some good starts at tight end with a lot of these backup quarterbacks coming through. The Jason Whittens of the world, I think, have a lot of value this week in FanDuel. So if you're not playing on Fanduel, I ask you why. Why are you not playing on FanDuel? They spend over. They pay out over $75 million every single week. It's a salary cap format. You pick any player you want. You don't get locked into the same roster because it's week to week. Entry fees start at just a buck, and anybody can play. We've all heard of fanduel? Now it's time to jump in. And if you jump in with our coupon code ballers, Ballers, you get up to $200 and that's a good deal. That's a pretty, that's a pretty sweet deal. So if you. Yeah, yeah. Jump in with your friends, play FanDuel, they're the leader in one week fantasy sports. They have more winners, more payouts than anybody else. So go to fanduel.com click on the microphone in the upper right hand corner. Use our code ballers, Ballers and sign up right now and you get the special offer, a bonus of up to $200 on your first deposit if you use the promo code baller. So FanDuel.com where every day is a new season. That's FanDuel.com sign up today.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And if you've got one of your favorite players on your hometown team in your FanDuel lineup, well, NFL Week 3 is here and SeatGeek is the place to get your tickets to this week's game. Okay, you've got the Redskins Giants tonight. It's not too late to get your tickets. And if you haven't used SeatGeek to get tickets yet, use the promo code footballers in the SeatGeek app and they will give you $20 in a rebate after you make your first purchase with SeatGeek. SeatGeek app is really, really great. They do three things that are very different. You've heard us talk about SeatGeek before. It's the app I use to buy tickets. First, they pull in tickets from over 100 different locations. So you know that all of the ticket availability for your game is going to be there with SeatGeek. Then they show you a deal score value plot color coded where you just look at the sections you like and you can see this is the best priced ticket for your money. You grab it so quick and in the app it's one touch to buy tickets. It's so easy. No captchas, no other annoying stuff you get with most other ticket companies. So here's what you do to redeem you. To redeem the promo code and save $20 on tickets, you're going to download the free SeatGeek app right now. You're going to enter the promo code footballers in the app and then SeatGeek will send you $20 once you've made your first SeatGeek purchase. Every ticket purchase on SeatGeek is backed by a 100% guarantee. So go get it today and enjoy the game.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say right now seatgeek is a Foot Clan approved app. Absolutely. Because we get tweets all the time. People get the best deal on their games. I mean, it's a very practical thing. I'm going to go to a Cardinal game here in a couple weeks. I'm going to use Sea Geek. It's just a no brainer. So let's get into the fantasy forecast.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy forecast.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Jason is jazzed.

[Jason Moore]

You're jazz.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you drinking here? You're drinking a ultra sunrise energy drink.

[Jason Moore]

I am an ultra sunrise man.

[Andy Holloway]

You have caffeine flowing through your body.

[Jason Moore]

And jazz music that wasn't really jazz, but through.

[Andy Holloway]

Through your body.

[Jason Moore]

Through my body. Mike, you've played through me.

[Mike Wright]

You play some.

[Jason Moore]

Some.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Flute.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Washington in New York. The Giants are favored by three points, the over under and this game is 44. Are we expecting fantasy production?

[Mike Wright]

Do we expect a. A Vietnam style flashback for Kirk Cousins.

[Andy Holloway]

As he takes on the Thursday night game? You're talking about massacre. Oh, that was brutal. You were.

[Mike Wright]

Last year I was a recipient when.

[Andy Holloway]

We had about six listeners listening to the show. You were a big captain.

[Mike Wright]

Kirk sure was. And then he did fantastic for a few games and then he played the Giants and he lost everything. He lost his house, his wife, his kids.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think his dog. I don't think Kirk Cousins is going to implode. And here's why. Because I think Washington's run game is legit. Washington, you mentioned last time they've got the new offensive line coach that was from Dallas, Bill Callahan. And they have ran for more yards than any other team so far this year. Matt Jones looks awesome and there's a great one, two punch behind Alfred Morris. So this is going to be. I'm really excited to watch this game to see is there run because New York's run defense has been pretty good this year and Washington's run offense has been great. So I want to see who. Who is more legit, who is.

[Andy Holloway]

Something's got to give.

[Jason Moore]

Something's got to give and I think it's going to be really telling for weeks four and on to see how good this run offense is.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. I think Kirk Cousins has a fine game. I think a couple touchdowns is in the cards for him tonight. I think it'll be a pretty good game. And like you said, I actually. Let me see your opinions because I have mine on this. If you're starting Morris or Jones, who do you start tonight?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Morris for sure.

[Mike Wright]

It still has to be Morris, but, man, I really want. I want to flex Matt Jones. I think he can have a good game.

[Andy Holloway]

I am with the Morris company as well. I have Morris the highest of the three of us. We actually have them really close. I'm at 21. Jason, you have him at 23. Mike 22. So that's an RB2.

[Jason Moore]

Do you start the New York running backs here? Who do you start, Jennings or Vereen?

[Mike Wright]

Vereen had a great game through the air. Not so much a good game on the ground. But have they found a formula or was that simply the matchup against the Falcons?

[Jason Moore]

I think it's. I think it's more the formula. I think they brought him in in the off season to play the role that he's starting to understand in McAdoo's offensive system. You also saw the. Rashad Jennings was terrible. I mean, he was awful.

[Andy Holloway]

So do you start Jennings or David Johnson?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

I know what your rankings say, but what do you say right now?

[Jason Moore]

I would start David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

You do. You have Johnson five ahead.

[Mike Wright]

Mike, man, probably David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you have him like 12 ahead.

[Mike Wright]

Who? Well, we're not there yet. We got us. We got.

[Jason Moore]

I was just wanting the song.

[Mike Wright]

I know.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why he's saving it.

[Mike Wright]

I'm saving.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know why, though, because we're not talking about that game today. All right, so the.

[Mike Wright]

Leave them wanting. Leave him on.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so Jordan Reed, Larry Danelle.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan Reed. Jordan Reed is an every.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not. I didn't mean necessarily either one. I mean, are you starting Donnell as a streamer tonight or are you leaving him on the bench?

[Mike Wright]

Donnell. Donald. Donald, whatever his name is.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm telling you, I'm ruining this. You're ruining his name for no reason.

[Mike Wright]

Did I ruin his name or did.

[Jason Moore]

His parents ruin his name?

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. We haven't been updated on if Fels is going to play or not.

[Andy Holloway]

If I don't start to know tonight.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just saying if you're desperate, if Fels is out right, and you're desperate for a tight end, then Larry D. Might be able to fill in for you. And Jordan Reed is an every week start. If he's healthy, he's a tight end one.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about the Bengals at the Ravens. The Bengals at the Ravens. I was tempted to make this one my upset of the week, but it felt cheap because the Ravens are at home and they're favored even though they're owing to. And the Bengals are 2, 0.

[Mike Wright]

So wait, you were going to say the Ravens are going to upset.

[Andy Holloway]

Before I saw the line. Before I saw the line. Yeah. And. And just because the Ravens had been.

[Jason Moore]

Struggling, there's no way they go on three. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I think the Ravens probably win this game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's not an upset. It's not if they do. Yeah. So I do think Andy Dalton is a very nice streaming play this week.

[Mike Wright]

I've actually cooled a bit earlier in the week when I was looking at matchups.

[Jason Moore]

He was just.

[Mike Wright]

He seemed to be an obvious choice, but I think people are overlooking. The Ravens dominated the Broncos just two weeks ago, and I know they really, really crapped their pants against Oakland, but they had to go.

[Andy Holloway]

Lost T. Suggs in between there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's very valid. But when you have to go. It's a historical thing when teams have to travel across an entire continent. Basically, what you would.

[Andy Holloway]

Cincinnati to Baltimore.

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm saying when they had to go to Oakland. Oh, I guess when they had to go to Oakland.

[Andy Holloway]

That is a. What continents in between. They're walking in Baltimore, they're putting on.

[Mike Wright]

Backpacks and they're walking to the game. But when they had to go to Oakland, it's very. It's a. It's a huge travel.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

And it was very, very hot.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a good point.

[Mike Wright]

Oakland, which. This is another could. Another key point. I am desperately hoping. I'm holding on to this weather theory that it was so hot and that's part of why they were rotating running back so much in Baltimore. Well, because it was so hot. You also spare four sets.

[Jason Moore]

You saw David Carr carve up.

[Mike Wright]

Derek.

[Jason Moore]

Derek, thank you. Carve up last week. But they went out and they got another cornerback this week, so they see their problems. They're at home. Their defense is going to be playing better. And I have cooled a lot on Andy Dalton. I don't expect him to have a great week. In fact, I think I've got him in my, like, why I told a.

[Andy Holloway]

Lot of people to stream them. I have no problem streaming Andy Dalton. The weapons are immense. You have Gio Bernard playing very well. Tyler Ifert, A.J. green has played well. Marvin Jones, they're. They're cruising on offense right now. And so for me, you'll have to choose between Jason and I then on your Andy Dalton start decisions, and we'll see who. Is there a bet there? Would there be a bet there?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there's a bet there.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think he throws two touchdowns?

[Jason Moore]

I want to go heads up. On my start of the week, I think you've got behind him, Alex Smith versus Andy Dalton.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take that.

[Mike Wright]

This is disgusting.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll absolutely take that. I'll take that disgusting bet.

[Jason Moore]

There you go. Water bet.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a really good bet. That's perfect. That's pertinent. Perfect. Write that down.

[Mike Wright]

I'm putting it in.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So anything else we want to talk about from the Bengals Ravens game? Talia Farrow was banged up a little bit in practice. Buck Allen will be the backup if Taylor Farrow can't play. You've also got A.J. green that was banged up a little bit in practice. We didn't mention it at the top of the show because I don't think there's a lot of concern. But he was limited yesterday. I am going after AJ Green in a lot of leagues. I still think his upside is immense. He's. His track record is unbelievable in terms of, you know, double digit touchdown potential, high yardage. So are you guys about AJ Green?

[Jason Moore]

Love AJ Green this week?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The slow start is he dropped a touchdown. I think it was in week one. And A.J. green is an elite, elite wide receiver. If anyone, if there's any panicking owners in your league for whatever reason, like we had talked about a few days ago of making us a strong offer to get A.J. green do it.

[Andy Holloway]

So this week though, you have them quite a bit lower than Jason and I. Mike, you have him down at 18. We have him at 7 and 8. You are starting Stevie Johnson ahead of him. Do you still feel that way? Stevie Johnson, Amari Cooper, Steve Smith, Dante Moncrief just because they're.

[Mike Wright]

He's numb numerically far lower than those other guys. That doesn't mean that their points are that much different. And no, if you have A.J. green, I'm not starting those other guys ahead of him just because of upside.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll talk Moncrief when we get to the Colts, Titans Moncrief because we have some very divergent rankings on him and I wouldn't go into that, but Raiders at the Browns. Raiders at the Browns. We talked a little bit about the fact Josh McCown is back. You have Latavius Murray who's had a very productive fantasy start to the season. Derek Carr coming off one of his best games of the year. Is Carr a streaming option to you?

[Mike Wright]

Nope, not this week. I think the Browns are a good streaming defense this week. I don't like Derek Carr going on the, on the road at this point of his career.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, rounds have given up under 200 a game through the air.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And.

[Andy Holloway]

But a lot on the ground.

[Mike Wright]

Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. But Derek Carr, what you want is you want for a defense, you want Derek Carr, who's a reasonably inexperienced quarterback. He's kind of a gunslinger and not a highly accurate gunslinger who's going to turn the ball over. And so I'm not confident streaming him yet.

[Jason Moore]

You know what makes Derek Carr a lot better this year is Amari Cooper. His weapons are much better and that's what really helped him with week one. I like your stream of the week, which I'm not going to say, but Joe Hayden, you know, for a rookie, I like Amari Cooper a lot, but he's a rookie and he's going up against a true veteran lockdown and you know Hayden's going to be on Amari Cooper. And so I think that's the reason why I don't love streaming Derek Carr this week. And that's also the reason they haven't given up a ton through the air so far.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. Those are very good points. The Raiders D has given up a ton of points through the air. Not that I'm suggesting you start McCown, but somebody has to produce through the air for Cleveland, don't they?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, they don't.

[Andy Holloway]

So you don't start Benjamin. Everybody signed him this week. You're not starting him.

[Mike Wright]

No. Benjamin has been the result of, I think he has seven total targets on the year. If you want to. Sure. You want to throw in a home run ball guy into your lineup, go ahead. But. But understand his two huge plays were Johnny Manziel scrambling outside of the pocket on a broken, not broken play, but designed to extend the life of the play. So Benjamin has the ability to get open. Josh McCowan is unlikely to do that.

[Jason Moore]

What about the fact that Josh McCown is going to take a nasty hit in this game and probably go out because he takes a nasty hit every game of his entire career.

[Mike Wright]

The Probability is about 65%.

[Andy Holloway]

Start.

[Mike Wright]

Sit Michael Crabtree, start when I'm saying I don't want to stream Derek Carr. I'm not down on the Raiders offense completely this week.

[Andy Holloway]

You both said start very quickly. What do you mean?

[Jason Moore]

I mean that I think that Derek Carr is going to put up some yards. I don't think they're going to go as much to Amari Cooper because of Joe Hayden. And so who's going to get him? I would say Michael Crabtree.

[Andy Holloway]

So Crabtree or Cooper.

[Jason Moore]

Let me, I'm going to check my rankings because I did some, I did some work. I did some research on this. I want to see how they stat it out for me.

[Andy Holloway]

I can tell you.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, good.

[Andy Holloway]

Tell me you have amari Cooper at 12. You have Michael Crabtree.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no, no, no, no. Sorry, I don't. I will update those. I updated them on my spreadsheet but I haven't put them up here. I looked at the Hayden effect and changed Cooper. I still have Cooper a little bit ahead, but no, Cooper was. I saw Cooper at 12 and went, wait, he's going against Hayden.

[Andy Holloway]

Both were force fed targets so we won't stay on that game too much longer. So the Saints at Carolina, it's one of the bigger lines. I think it opened up at like a nine point spread and a 43 point over under. I really like Cam Newton this week. Hint, hint.

[Mike Wright]

I can buy in. I'm not a Cam Newton guy. But this, this seems like the matchup that happened.

[Andy Holloway]

Are we concerned at all about Ingram? Because Ingram was not very productive last week and I feel like the pass catching is going to diminish for him just based on a healthier and healthier C.J. spiller coming into the fold. Do we have, I mean, do we like Ingram rest of season more or less than Jonathan Stewart?

[Jason Moore]

More.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, they're very close together and my concern for Ingram lies with my concern for Drew Brees. If Drew Brees is not feared and the defense is not respecting his game, then Ingram could be in some big trouble.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we start or are we rostering? I should say Devin Funches because of the situation with Kotri and that wide receiver core.

[Jason Moore]

You know, Kotri was already wide receiver. Three, three or four. They were about the same with Funches.

[Andy Holloway]

Because on that roster, not in fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

Right, right, right. On that roster you had Ginn and Brown ahead of him. So I don't think it makes that big a difference for Funches. And he hasn't looked good. I mean he's, he's, he caught one of his four targets last game. So I actually had been holding on to funches and dropped him. I think he's worth rostering, but it depends on how deep your league is. Who's on the waivers, who. For my team, he was not worth rostering.

[Andy Holloway]

So Panthers, one of the best defenses in football right now. About 200 through the air, 70 on the ground.

[Jason Moore]

I have a question for you and.

[Andy Holloway]

I love them this week by the way.

[Jason Moore]

On the defense, Carolina or the Jets?

[Andy Holloway]

I had the decision or The Jets. I was looking at that this week and I think that I would probably take Carolina.

[Jason Moore]

I took Carolina in the same decision, but it was close to me. I was very close to.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very close. Yeah. And ironically you and I are playing each other and we have those two defenses.

[Jason Moore]

So who has Carolina?

[Andy Holloway]

You do. Falcons at the Cowboys.

[Mike Wright]

Brandon Whedon.

[Jason Moore]

We.

[Andy Holloway]

You are so excited. You must be listening to Jones.

[Mike Wright]

I take all my fantasy advice from Jerry Jones and he told me that you'd be hard pressed to find a prettier passer. Well, I don't know if he meant in his face.

[Jason Moore]

No, he did not.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry. So he meant that. That he meant his actual pass is. Is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Because look prettiest.

[Jason Moore]

I mean look at the Patriots. The Patriots got the pretty quarterbacks. I mean those are the two most beautiful men on the face of the planet.

[Mike Wright]

Brandon Whedon and Tom Brady.

[Jason Moore]

No, Tom Brady and Garoppolo.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So who are you. Who are you sitting in this game? Are you sitting Tevin Coleman? Because yeah, even if he's active, there's.

[Mike Wright]

Word that Tevin Coleman could play through the pain. But I don't.

[Jason Moore]

I don't like my running backs to have broken.

[Mike Wright]

No, I generally I do not either. I'm not playing Coleman. I like Freeman. I think Coleman sit. So I actually like Freeman a good bit this week just because of overall usage. I think the Cowboys will have to lean more on their running game. So this could be. This is the real test for Joe Rancho, Joe Randall. So the Christine Michael Truthers, our time is coming of either of the put up or shut up. And I think in the next couple weeks it's really going to be excited.

[Andy Holloway]

Only four years waiting for the Christine Michael truth.

[Mike Wright]

You knew he wouldn't get past Lynch.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, we knew that. Except for every offseason all the people out there, oh, this is the time.

[Jason Moore]

Look how good he is. That's really true.

[Andy Holloway]

Heavy is really true.

[Mike Wright]

We're moving but. So the next couple weeks is $7 fab.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Well spent. Well spent. I think the sneaky play of the week in this game is Lance Dunbar. The Falcons have like Shane Vereen last week just torched the Falcons in the middle in the passing game. So that's why I think Lance Dunbar could be a really sneaky PPR flex guy this week.

[Andy Holloway]

And obviously you're starting Ryan, you're starting Jones, you are starting Randall, I think. And then Whitten, you got to put Whitten in there. I think Whitten benefits the Most from the. Well, I guess Whitten doesn't really benefit from losing Romo, who's a go to guy, but at the same time he's the kind of safety valve. Safety valve. And he had good numbers with Wheaton in the past.

[Mike Wright]

I'm still, I'm still starting Roddy White despite the where he put up the same amount of points as Mike Evans last week.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with that. I agree that Roddy White over Hankerson is still absolutely who you want for the Falcons.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so let's talk about two more games here before we get to the starts of the week. Let's go through the Buccaneers at the Texans. Is there somebody in this game? Now? I'm very high on Mike Evans this week. I'm probably much higher than both of you guys. He's going to be on probably a full snap count this week. I really, really like his chance. Like I've been trying to get him in every single league because I think I like his opportunity to really, really bounce back and have a huge game.

[Mike Wright]

No ASJ there probably I and I like Vincent Jackson. I like his opportunity. Now let me ask, is there a.

[Jason Moore]

Water bet to be made here?

[Andy Holloway]

So let me just, let me highlight the difference. I have Mike Evans and I will be. This will be one of those moments of the show that you remember as being terrible for me or great. You guys have him at 20 and 27. Jason, you're the 27.

[Jason Moore]

I assumed I was.

[Andy Holloway]

I have him at 5 this week.

[Jason Moore]

That sounds like a water bet to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Where do we have next week? I will Bet Vincent Jackson vs you guys have Vincent Jackson at 13 and 21. So you guys should be very confident betting me Mike Evans versus Vincent Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

I'm fine doing it.

[Jason Moore]

All right, that's a one on one right there.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's. That's not a one on one for you. What do you mean?

[Mike Wright]

You can't force him into a bet. First of all, I just. You two, I just took a bet with you.

[Andy Holloway]

Let him speak for himself there did. I'm speaking to Jason saying you have Vincent Jackson at 13. So put your money where your mouth is.

[Jason Moore]

The nice thing about it on this is because you and Mike have already made a bet. I get.

[Andy Holloway]

First of all, we haven't.

[Jason Moore]

You haven't.

[Andy Holloway]

I haven't. Hit the button.

[Mike Wright]

Hit the button.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm waiting for it to be a manly bet with men.

[Jason Moore]

Let's do it. Water bet.

[Andy Holloway]

So much resistance for standing up to your own rankings.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's not a matter of that. It's a matter of I really like hedging all my bets and being right as often as I can. In which case I got to see you get wet if I was right, I get to see Mike get wet if I was wrong and I get to stay safely on the sidelines. But you guys, don't you always withstand.

[Andy Holloway]

Your victory so well. All right, so more guys from this game. If you need to start a running back for the Texans and Foster that you need to start Chris Polk. 100%. You need to start Chris Polk. Alpha Blue had I think five, six carries last week. Polk had the most touches by far and is the guy to own.

[Jason Moore]

That was a game flow thing though, when they were down and late in the game where all of a sudden they completely turned it over to Polk.

[Andy Holloway]

You.

[Jason Moore]

You really think that Polk ends up with more touches this game?

[Andy Holloway]

100%.

[Jason Moore]

All right. That's not where the water bet but.

[Andy Holloway]

I actually end up with more so ineffective this year. I think Polk's the guy you have to start and he's. I have him as a sneaky start this week. If you have to have a running back that you're running out there, I'm okay with you running Polk out there, which I guess I'll probably stand alone on. But it's the Buccaneers and if Foster's out, I like that. So let's talk about. We already talked about Evans. So Hopkins, if he's out, who benefits from the wide receiver position and do we. Do we Shorts? Do we care at all?

[Mike Wright]

Probably. Shorts is actually getting a ton of targets. So if, if anybody shorts, I'm not. I don't feel like I'm plugging him into any of my season long. But as a DFS type guy, he's. He's a sneaky guy for tournaments.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. We will have. We'll talk more DFS tomorrow too. We'll have our daily Dose segment. So the Buccaneers defense has only given up 200 through the air. This is a low scoring, probably the lowest line in Vegas. So I wouldn't expect. I think Texans D is an amazing play this week, obviously. Colts at the Titans. We're going to talk about Moncrief real quickly here. This is an Andrew Luck. He's my number one. I know everyone's freaking out about Andrew Luck, but I think this is the week that you see a fix coming. Do you guys agree?

[Jason Moore]

I do agree. If it wasn't too easy, he would have been my start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Andrew Luck.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I have him as my number one quarterback this week. So what's wrong with Andre Johnson?

[Mike Wright]

He's old.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that really what it is?

[Jason Moore]

I think so. And I also think it's a matter of the fact that he was in essentially one one offense for his whole career and now he's had to switch try to learn a completely different offense from really a different position than what he's played his career with less tools than he had. And there's other weapons there that already have rapport have a year under their belt with Andrew Luckin in that offense. So it's hard to step in and become a star. He's really going to be a role player for the rest of the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Now the Titans D has actually been very productive statistically through two games. Their matchups have been a lot different than the Colts, clearly. I want to talk about Dante Moncrief for a second because people are freaking about. Here's an example of a trade offer that somebody sent across for a question. It was a Brandon Cooks. The Moncrief owner wanted Brandon Cooks.

[Mike Wright]

Plus, I don't blame him.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't blame him?

[Mike Wright]

I don't. Rest of season Moncrief.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

You like Moncrief more than Cook's rest of season?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Give me Moncrief.

[Jason Moore]

I like Moncrief a lot. But I would also take Moncrief, who I like, and approach the Brandon Cook's owner and say, would you like Moncrief? And if you had him, I could get Cooks from you easily from Moncrief you could get cooked and I would do that.

[Mike Wright]

I am not feeling confident at all in Brandon Cook's.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm fine with that. But I think Moncrief has been a There has been a perfect storm for Moncrief and through two games and it's called garbage time and Ty Hilton's injury. And so I think Moncrief's production, if you saw it, if you got rid of the kind of comeback garbage time production last game he had an okay game. He had like a 40 yard touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

It wasn't really garbage time last week.

[Andy Holloway]

What I mean is that the Colts have been playing from behind for 90% of their season. Yeah, but Hilton has been hurt and Hilton, he hadn't produced greatly until Hilton went off the field again at the end of last year.

[Mike Wright]

No, he was still getting targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Who was Moncrief. But he didn't produce at that level. He caught three or four passes after Hilton went off the field, including his touchdown. I'm just saying, I think Moncrief is a mirage.

[Jason Moore]

I do know. I don't think Moncrief's a mirage, but I still like cooks. And cooks, to me, is. Is somebody that I think you can buy extremely low. You can get them very cheap right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I would take cooks the rest of season over Moncrief and I wouldn't even think twice about it. But that is why there's three of us with three different opinions. So I'm curious how that will pan out. All right, we're going to get into our starts of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're gonna have to blitz through these guys. Let's start at the quarterback position. Mike, who do you have as your quarterback start of the week?

[Mike Wright]

Tyrone Taylor, 40 yard rushing floor. That is just a glorious thing to have.

[Andy Holloway]

Say it again because you said it fast.

[Mike Wright]

40 yards. That's how much he's rushed each of the first two games, at least 40 yards. And that is a. That is a tremendous cushion into your fantasy production. He has, he has capable weapons in the receiving game. He has capable weapons from under his hips that are his legs, and they are glorious legs. And he just. Miami is very beatable. I don't. I understand it's down in Miami, but Tyrod Taylor is just. He makes it happen in the Miami defense. Their secondary is just in shambles right now.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Jason, who is your quarterback? Start of the week, it's Alex Smith.

[Jason Moore]

Which we've got a water bet on. I believe that it's going to be a high scoring game in Green Bay. Alex Smith doesn't really turn the ball over. He's going to have a safe game plan, but we haven't seen Jeremy Macklin break out yet. And I think this is the type of game with a lot of points going where he can break one long, get a touchdown. You've still got Jamal Charles able to grab touchdowns from Alex Smith in the air. And of course, you've got Zeus. So with the weapons and a high scoring game, I feel like Alex Smith has a bounce back game here.

[Andy Holloway]

Another guy running the ball like crazy is my start of the week. Cam Newton. He is running with. With the conviction of a man who has no wide receivers. And the reality is, is he had a very big game last week. I don't know what his floor has been through two games, but it's got to be higher than 40. And he's taken, I think 10 and 11 carries in their two games. So I love him. At New Orleans, New Orleans Defense, that team right now is on both sides of the ball, is disheveled, and I think Newton just has the ability to come out and have a great game. Greg Olson was heavily targeted last week. He'll be involved. And I like Newton. I think he's my fifth quarterback this week. So let's go to the running back position. I'll go ahead and start us off. It is TJ Yelden. TJ Yelden at New England. He had 25 carries and three catches last week. He said three catches in both of his games. Denard Robinson is out for a while, and TG Eldon passes the eye test to me. And New England's defense on the ground doesn't pass the eye test to me. So I think Yelden is a sneaky play. And we'll get into it tomorrow when we talk about this game. But I have some almost upset of the week thoughts about this one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I'm going to stick with the rookie running back as my start of the week, and I'm going. Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon. I watched every single snap of last week for him, just in a row, and he looks amazing.

[Mike Wright]

He looks great.

[Jason Moore]

He looks powerful. He's running guys over. He's breaking tackles. He looks like why they traded up to get him in the first round. And he's going up against Minnesota, who had a fine game last week. I mean, they were really good. But you know what they didn't have last week? They didn't have any power rushing against him. They had Joy Bell, and Joy Bell looks like he's coming off of two surgeries. And the powerful back, like a Carlos.

[Andy Holloway]

Hyde joke about two carries.

[Jason Moore]

That's my point. No, no, no. My point is they didn't have a power running game at all against Minnesota. It's not like Minnesota stopped the run. It's. There was no run.

[Andy Holloway]

You're saying they didn't have an opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. So people are like, oh, they only gave up 50 yards running. Well, yeah, they. They ran the ball three times.

[Andy Holloway]

It's like.

[Jason Moore]

But the week before against a powerful runner in Carlos Hyde, they were destroyed. And over the last. Since the beginning of last year, they've had a very weak run D. And I think Melvin Gordon, with how he's running, is going to be a perfect storm here.

[Mike Wright]

So I like Melvin Gordon now for my running back start of the week. I have put my money where my mouth is. If you listened to the previous shows, I traded for C.J. anderson, and I like Anderson to bounce back. I think this is the week Detroit has a very soft run D. They gave up 97 yards and two touchdowns to San Diego. 150 yards last week against Adrian Peterson and that Peterson even fumbled multiple times on the goal line so that the running back points are there to take against Detroit. And I like Anderson. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen this week. And I'm. I am going down with this ship with your eyes because I'm starting him.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, give me your wide receiver, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

My wide receiver, Michael Crabtree. And it's simply a matter of volume. 24 targets. That's fifth in the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

I did not realize that there was.

[Mike Wright]

A huge amount last week. Granted I think it was 16 of his targets but week one, eight targets. And I agree with Jason. I think that Joe Hayden will be more focused on Amari Cooper and I think despite. I don't really like Derek Carr this week but you can still like a receiver if you don't like his quarterback. I like Crabtree. Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

I really like that.

[Mike Wright]

Just getting force fed targets.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Jason, who's your wide receiver start of the week?

[Jason Moore]

Brandon Marshall. You got Eric Decker a little bit hurt. Brandon Marshall, just like what you were saying. He's getting a ton of targets this week and Fitzmagic has always really targeted on one wide receiver and just peppered him over and over and over. So I think that coming up this week the Eagles D has been susceptible to some of that. And Brandon Marshall is a guy that going forward needs to be looked at as essentially a wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

One I'm going with Mike Evans. I talked about him earlier. He's very, very high on my list this week, which I know is a leap for some people because he hasn't produced yet this year. But he's coming off an injury was on a pitch count last week and there's no Austin Severian Jenkins anymore. I think he will get major opportunities in this offense to succeed this week. And if there's one thing I know about Winston is that he has the ability to connect with bigger receivers. He's willing to throw the ball up to them and Evans just playing comes down with the ball. So. All right, moving to tight end. I'm going to say Jimmy Graham. Jimmy Graham versus Chicago. There's a lot of factors here. One of the perceptions about Jimmy Graham that is wrong is that he is being used to not run routes for some reason. His percentage of routes run is the exact same in Seattle as it was in New Orleans. He is running routes just as often it has been a target issue, which is, I think a little bit of an outlier issue with the obviously that offense runs a different offense than Drew Brees ran. But at the same time it was just, I think, an issue where first week he had, I think six catches and a touchdown. Last week he wasn't targeted a lot and he was a little upset about it. I think he's peppered with targets against Chicago. I really like Jimmy Graham this week. He's my number two overall tight end.

[Jason Moore]

I surprisingly really agree with you because the squeaky wheel gets the oil and he has been squeaking and crying over there and I think he's going to get targets. And if I'm a Jimmy Graham, if I'm a Jimmy Graham owner, this is what I do. If you are correct, I play him, I get great production this week and I trade him immediately because it's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't disagree with that either.

[Mike Wright]

Join me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's going to be, you know, every week. Who's going to get those few, you know, passes.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Mike has him ranked too low this week simply because of, I think the numbers right in front of you in the matchup with Chicago say that Jimmy's going to have a decent game. But I think you're just resistant because Jimmy Graham.

[Mike Wright]

No, not at all. My resistance is that I think Seattle is going to smoke them, but it literally could be all Marshawn Lynch. MARSHawn could get 28 carries this game because they don't have to do anything else.

[Jason Moore]

All right. My, my tight end of the week is Kyle Rudolph. I'm in love with Kyle Rudolph this week. For a guy that you can just go get on waivers in most leagues, he's had five catches each game. But San Diego has a great pass d. They've got a great cornerback one, a great cornerback two that are going to take away Teddy Bridgewater's wide receivers. And we've seen Teddy Bridgewater will use Kyle Rudolph as a check down guy and San Diego has been a little bit susceptible to that. We saw Eric Ebron. They've given up a touchdown. Each week I expect Kyle Rudolph to get a touchdown and to have at least five receptions.

[Andy Holloway]

So I have him for a touchdown as well. My stats smart man.

[Mike Wright]

My tight end is Jordan Reed. I like Jordan Reed a lot. He's tied for second in tight end targets with 17 through two weeks. The Giants are giving up 65 plus yards to the tight end. I just think he's a, he's a fantastic talent who was adored. When he came into the league, it was just a matter of hamstring injuries and as long as he is healthy, he is in my lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

And you're good to see that payout tonight in the Thursday night game, most likely. And I agree with you, I think he's a great start. So those are our starts of the week. We have a good show for you tomorrow. We're going to go through the rest of the games. We're going to have our daily dose segment, our full stream Ahead segment. Some guys you can grab off of waivers right now and throw in at the quarterback position. If you're one of those guys with a shaky quarterback situation and you're not sure who to start. I want to remind everybody that if you have a question that you'd like answered by us, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click on the Submit a question button if you have a question that needs answering. Trade questions, waivers guys to start. We're here to help you out. This show is about the foot clan. It's about the listeners. And I want to remind you to check out jointhefoot.com that is our fantasy football community. You can get involved with us. We're on there all the time talking to everybody on there. There's a large community of listeners that can share their opinions about what your, your team's going through and the situations that you have. And so I just want to remind you to check those things out and we should have a good show for you tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

Eddie Lacy not expected to practice today. He was supposed to give it today. Hope you have a backup option.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's James Stark's alert.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, thanks for listening. We'll be back here tomorrow. Check us out on TwitterFFballers. See you later.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.