Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 9 Matchups, The Daily Dose, & TNF Review

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 9 Matchups, The Daily Dose, & TNF Review
Release Date: November 6, 2015

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Introduction

In this Week 9 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright dive deep into the latest NFL matchups, provide crucial injury updates, share Daily Dose insights with special guest Chris Meaney from the Fantasy Sports Network, and tackle listener questions in their Mailbag segment. The discussion is both analytical and entertaining, offering listeners actionable advice to enhance their fantasy football strategies.

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Week 9 Matchups

Cincinnati Bengals vs. Cleveland Browns

The hosts express optimism about the Bengals' performance, noting their dominance in the second half of their recent game. Andy Holloway remarks, “I've been calling it for like four weeks. I finally got the Barnage cold water” (03:25) as he discusses Gary Barnidge's struggles due to quarterback changes. The consensus is to exercise patience with Barnage, suggesting, “Do not panic on Barnage” (03:42).

Tennessee Titans vs. New Orleans Saints

A significant focus is placed on the Titans' running game under Coach Mike Mularkey. Andy highlights the importance of Antonio Andrews, advising listeners to secure him on waivers: “Antonio Andrews is worth making sure he's on your roster” (09:07). The discussion also covers Jeremy Langford, with Mike Wright emphasizing his potential against San Diego, who have a weak run defense: “It would be a surprise if he not get 20” (09:31).

Las Vegas Raiders vs. Pittsburgh Steelers

The Raiders-Steelers matchup is anticipated to be a high-scoring affair due to both teams' vulnerabilities in the passing game. Jason Moore predicts a shootout, saying, “It's a recipe for a shootout” (21:30). Martavis Bryant's increased snap count is highlighted as a potential source of big fantasy points: “Martavis Bryant, what was the snap count last week? .. If you give Martavis Bryant Over 80% of the snaps, get Big Ben a little bit healthier, of course he's going to go off” (20:31).

New York Giants vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

The focus shifts to the Giants' ineffective offense, particularly Matt Carpenter's struggles against the run: “Matt Carpenter is still Matt Carpenter problem” (32:18). The hosts debate the value of WR Jordan Reed versus Martellus Bennett, with Mike advocating for Reed: “I’m gonna take Reed” (47:57).

Philadelphia Eagles vs. Dallas Cowboys

The Eagles' improved offense, utilizing both Zach Ertz and Lavonte David, is praised for its flexibility and increased scoring potential. Jason Moore notes, “The Philadelphia offense has been better” (32:21). Running backs LeSean McCoy and Demarco Murray are recommended for their consistent performances: “I really like Murray a lot more, but McFadden just from a quantity standpoint” (32:48).

Chicago Bears vs. San Diego Chargers

Philip Rivers' performance remains a topic of interest, especially with Keenan Allen's absence. Chris Meaney advises leveraging Stevie Johnson to fill the gap: “I think Stevie Johnson can give you a good bit of what Keenan Allen had been doing” (34:21). The potential of Melvin Gordon versus Eddie Woodford is debated, with Jason suggesting flexibility based on Gordon's usage: “What are you doing in a bi week situation? I'm okay flexing Gordon out there” (35:54).

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Injury Updates

The hosts provide comprehensive injury reports:

• Players To Start/Exclude:
  • Tyler Ifreet: Recommended starter over Gary Barnidge.
  • D'Angelo Williams: Suggested as a reliable RB1 due to his dual-threat capability.
  • Kendall Wright: Ruled out (11:08).
  • Various Wide Receivers and Tight Ends: Multiple players like Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker are confirmed to play, while others like Ty Hilton and Larry Donnell are marked as out.

Jason Moore summarizes the importance of keeping abreast of these updates: “You can't overrun Geo either” referring to Geo Bernard’s usage (03:40).

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The Daily Dose with Chris Meaney

DFS Strategies and Player Insights: Chris Meaney shares his strategies for Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS), emphasizing the inclusion of high-performing quarterbacks and value players. Key takeaways include:

• Top Quarterbacks: Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers are deemed essential due to their consistent performance and favorable matchups.
• Wide Receivers: Odell Beckham Jr. is highlighted as a must-have for his target volume and scoring potential.
• Running Backs: DeAndre Williams is recommended as a steal given his low cost and high upside, reminiscent of Jeremy Hill's earlier DFS success.
• Defenses: The Philadelphia Eagles defense is praised for its ability to generate fantasy points, averaging 10 FanDuel points per game (43:50).

Chris emphasizes value by suggesting lower-tier players like Brendan Feell could be leveraged in specific matchups, especially against weaker defenses.

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Mailbag

Listener Questions Addressed:

1. Running Backs for Host George in Miami:

   • Question: Should start Dion Lewis, Lamar Miller, or D'Angelo Williams?
   • Advice: Both Mike and Jason recommend starting D'Angelo Williams and Lamar Miller over Dion Lewis (45:36).

2. Wide Receiver Decision: Allen Robinson vs. Stefon Diggs:

   • Question: Should start Allen Robinson or stay with Stefon Diggs?
   • Advice: The consensus is to stick with Stefon Diggs due to Allen Robinson’s uncertain role (46:06).

3. Defensive Play Between Rams vs. Minnesota and Jets vs. Jacksonville:

   • Question: Which defense to play in a matchup choice between the Rams and Jets?
   • Advice: Both Mike and Andy favor starting the Jets defense due to their aggressive play and Jacksonville's high-scoring tendencies (46:31).

4. WR Decision for Patagonia Patent, NY: Mount Martellus Bennett vs. Jordan Reed:

   • Question: Should start Martellus Bennett or Jordan Reed?
   • Advice: Andy leans towards Bennett, while Mike recommends Reed, ultimately showcasing the tough decisions fantasy players face (47:45).

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Insights and Conclusions

Throughout the episode, the hosts emphasize the importance of flexibility and staying informed. They advocate for trusting reliable players while also being open to leveraging lower-cost options with high upside. The detailed analysis of matchups and player performances provides listeners with the tools needed to make informed decisions for their fantasy teams.

Notable quotes highlighting their strategic approach include:

• Jason Moore: “It is the little things and the joy of watering your friends. That's what makes fantasy football fun” (00:28).
• Mike Wright: “Freeman could get back on Freeman” (38:22).
• Andy Holloway: “Vereen is absolutely a guy that can do that” (26:18).

The episode concludes with encouragement for listeners to engage with upcoming content and stay connected through their platforms.

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For more detailed discussions and weekly insights, visit thefantasyfootballers.com and follow them on Twitter @the_ffballers.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Foot Clan. The time you have been waiting for is here. The Wheel of Water app is out, so make your bets with your friends and put your water where your mouth is. Curse.

[Mike Wright]

Splash.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

It is the little things, my friend. It is the little things and the joy of watering your friends. That's what makes fantasy football fun.

[Mike Wright]

I'm. I am extremely excited for when the videos start coming in.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Use the hashtag wheelofwater on Twitter if you film any of these waterings, these payouts, and we will retweet them.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

With great joy. So, yeah, that's. That's pretty funny. We're excited. We had a lot of people download the Wheel of Water app yesterday, so that was very fun. Shout out to our developers at Polygon Sushi.

[Mike Wright]

Yo. Yo.

[Jason Moore]

For developing that fun app. And so we'll keep. And. And just so the world knows, so I don't have like 4,000 more.

[Mike Wright]

What's the water?

[Jason Moore]

No. Okay, we'll go. We'll go through that, too, but I was gonna say it'll come to Android. Okay. We're gonna get it on Android, too. We haven't ignored you. It's just, you know, we're getting all the bugs out and getting it out on iOS and. And we'll keep going. So welcome to the show. This is the Fantasy Footballers Podcast and it is Friday, November 6th. We are going to go ahead and we're going to cover the second half of the games for week nine. We've got our injury updates for you. We've got our Daily Dose segment today with Chris Meaney of the Fantasy Sports Network, getting you everything you needed to know for FanDuel. And, you know, that's always, always some beautiful FanDuel DFS nuggets on that segment. We got our mailbag. Today we're going to answer some listener questions. And don't forget to check us out on Twitter, the FFballers. You can visit our website, thefantasyfootballers.com and if you do want to grab that app, go to wheelofwater.com or you can grab it on the website. Pretty easy to do that.

[Mike Wright]

It's everywhere.

[Jason Moore]

It is. You guys watch the game last night?

[Andy Holloway]

No. No. What, there was a game?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Football. NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

I did. I very much enjoyed a Johnny Football.

[Jason Moore]

Johnny Football game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Was he. He was there. The Bengals looked amazing. They looked. You know how they've looked for a lot of the season, But I'm starting to believe that they Might be able to do it in the first round of the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you know, the AFC landscape has changed a little bit. You know, I wouldn't expect. Even if the Colts get out of the AFC south, which seems really easy to do right now, Cleveland might be leading that division. If they were in that division, you know, I. They're not the powerhouse that we expected. You know, there's kind of, you know, the Jets. The jets are good, but they've. They've had games off and, you know, there's New England, but you're not going to play New England in the first round if you win your division. So, I don't know. Cincinnati's looking pretty good. Like you said, they. They definitely did what good teams do, which is come out in the second half and dominate 17 unanswered points in the second half. And Johnny Menzel looked okay.

[Mike Wright]

He looks okay.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, against the defense, I was playing well, and he had a lot of guys drop passes. And if you had Gary Barnage, you were disappointed last night.

[Andy Holloway]

Called it. Sorry, I've been calling it for like four weeks. I finally got the Barnage cold water.

[Jason Moore]

That was ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

So I had to say, hey, we.

[Jason Moore]

Talked about it on the show. We said Barnage might struggle with the quarterback change. I think. I think McCown will be back next week.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. Do not. Do not panic on Barnage.

[Jason Moore]

No, no. And, you know, there were a lot of people deciding, oh, Barnage or Gates or Barnage or Read and things like that. But yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So the answer was, of course, Tyler Ifert.

[Jason Moore]

Right. The answer to all questions was Tyler Ifert, who. I was just saying before the show, almost had four. He almost had four touchdowns. Mike, how you doing with the whole Jeremy Mihal situation?

[Mike Wright]

I was on full tilt last night. I don't know if you were following my Twitter feed.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, I saw that you were, but in a spiral of depression.

[Mike Wright]

So here's. I will start with this. This has nothing to do with Giovanni Bernard. Gio looks fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not taking anything away from Geo. It's just frustrating to me to watch Jeremy Hill. And I agree that he. Something looks wrong. Like he's.

[Jason Moore]

There's some hesitation to the way he runs right now.

[Mike Wright]

He's stutter stepping almost all the time instead of just hitting the hole like Geo is doing. They showed that stat yesterday on the. On the game of how many yards is he running before he gets 1.1yard. And it's basically 5 yards or something like that. It's this really weird stat that I've I've not come across before and Gia was, was very productive in this particular statistic. But when you see him, what it felt like to me is whenever they would put him in a power formation with a fullback, then he would go and that's when he would rip off the six yards and. But then they, they would do that once and then they'd go to the shotgun and try and pull these trickery runs, which that's not, that's not what he does. He's a power back. Just let him.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying where he has no head of steam. He's taking the ball in the shotgun handoff.

[Andy Holloway]

So they should leave Geo in the game. I agree.

[Jason Moore]

Well, no, I mean you can't overrun Geo either. You can't give Geo27 carries and expect him to stay healthy. He's a little guy. He's clearly done what Mike has said in the past, which is be extremely effective when he's not the workhorse they're going to need. Jeremy Hill. Yes, but okay, so audible here. Quick question of the day before we get into the news and notes and the injury segment moving forward, you're a team with Jeremy hill.

[Mike Wright]

He's an RB, low end, RB2.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. So that has to concern you a little bit as owner.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it just concerns you from where you drafted him. But I mean we're way past the draft of the value of a guy where you took him in the draft. You just have to adjust your expectations. The problem was like this was this was the ultimate matchup for a Jeremy Hill type game. Leading the game the other up big. The Cleveland Browns are the worst rushing defense in the league and you expected to see 20 Jeremy Hill carries. But you would see entire series. There was at least twice two drives where it was Gio Bernard the entire drive.

[Jason Moore]

That's probably when you were pacing your house, stomping your feet.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man, it was spitting your food out.

[Jason Moore]

Whatever you do when you're on tilt.

[Mike Wright]

And I had tweeted, all I wanted to see was what happens with the team when they line up two consecutive power formations with Jeremy Hill and given the ball, what would happen. That's all I wanted to see. And I just, it never happened.

[Andy Holloway]

To be continued.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So, but, but for. For my fellow Hill truthers who are on full tilt, you, it's, you can't overreact of saying, well I'm never playing him again. He's still, he still had over 50 yards. He's giving you low end running back two numbers and he always has the chance to put up touchdowns. I mean, sure, ifrt happened to be the guy who caught all the touchdowns. Those there was four scoring opportunities. And so that's that you still have to play the probabilities of. It's a good chance that he'll get one of them.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Or if not multiples of them. It just didn't work out in this particular game.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. All right, let's go ahead and get you into the news notes.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

Alrighty. Let's go ahead and shoot through these. This is some stuff that you got to know. Starting with Gary Kubiak officially naming Ronnie Hillman the starter, but views both of them as ones. This is kind of what we said yesterday. We think carries will still be split. Hillman is the official starter now. I'm more confident starting Hillman than Anderson. Do you guys agree?

[Mike Wright]

Probably. This is almost a mirror image of the Bengals of Hillman and Anderson for Geo and I mean Hillman and Anderson and.

[Jason Moore]

But a tear down in terms of production.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

Ty Hilton is still wearing a walking boot. The report this morning said he will be a game time decision. Everybody wants a game time decision against the Broncos, right?

[Mike Wright]

Sit him down.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, just sit him. This is a blessing. It might honestly be. Andre.

[Mike Wright]

Andre.

[Andy Holloway]

No, Nobody. Nobody. Andre Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

The Andre Johnson chant. Andre Johnson. All right. Ryan Matthews didn't practice on Thursday.

[Mike Wright]

That's gross.

[Jason Moore]

He's been missing practice and playing.

[Mike Wright]

Weren't they on a bye week?

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Mike Wright]

That's gross.

[Andy Holloway]

And remember, he hurt his groin a couple plays before that big long play last game. So this is still lingering. I agree it is gross. But it looks good for demarco Murray. My unbelievable start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let me see if there's some news here that's not injury related. Otherwise, we'll go through our in and out segment here.

[Mike Wright]

Titans.

[Jason Moore]

Titans. Yeah. Coach Mike Malarkey has emphasized the running game in practice this week and we are super excited.

[Andy Holloway]

Antonio Andrews is worth making sure he's on your roster. If he's on the waivers taken and put on your bench. Because there is always the chance with a new head coach and a focus on that game. If he's just made the bell cow, which I don't expect fully to happen, maybe he's productive.

[Jason Moore]

And ESPN reporters are saying that it wouldn't be a surprise if Jeremy Langford got.

[Mike Wright]

It would be a surprise if he.

[Jason Moore]

Would be a surprise if he not get 20. Yeah. Yeah. So we, you know, he's my start of the week. This week. We like Jeremy Langford a lot. The opportunity, the defense he's playing Monday night. Roll him out there. I'd roll him out there over most guys. He's my number six this week, which I know might sound crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he is an RB one this week. And we have so many questions coming in of, like, they're not even considering Langford. They're like, which guys? Oh, I've also got this guy on my bench.

[Jason Moore]

So let's. Let's go ahead and get into the injury report.

[Mike Wright]

What's it gonna be, McFly? Are you in or out?

[Jason Moore]

All right. In or out? Marcus Mariota?

[Andy Holloway]

In.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Dion Lewis.

[Mike Wright]

In.

[Jason Moore]

Ryan Matthews. We just talked about him. You think he's gonna play?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I think he's gonna play.

[Jason Moore]

Orleans Dark was back. Is he playing?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, sure. He's the fourth, if you want that. That's more news to me for people who are Rashad Jennings and Vereen. Owners.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Of Darkwood. Just. Just ruining everybody's day.

[Jason Moore]

We have a lot of wide receivers that were kind of questionable this week in your league. So Brandon Marshall, do you think he's out there?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I think you'll be in.

[Jason Moore]

Martavis Bryant.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He was. He was sick and missed a practice, but he's back. So in.

[Jason Moore]

What about Willie Snead?

[Mike Wright]

Return to limited practice on Thursday. So I'm going to say in.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Jason Moore]

Emmanuel Sanders.

[Mike Wright]

In.

[Jason Moore]

What about Eric Decker? Missing practice.

[Andy Holloway]

Always in. Eric Decker. For me, if he's not at the hospital on Sunday, he will play and.

[Jason Moore]

Probably score a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Sammy Watkins.

[Mike Wright]

I think he plays, but I'm not. I'm not, like, throwing him back in my lineup immediately. I'm not counting on him.

[Jason Moore]

We just talked about it. Ty Hilton.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll say out. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Kendall Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Ruled out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's been ruled out. That's right. Ruben Randall in. Here's the thing about Ruben Randall real quick. He's a wide receiver. Four.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

He's just not getting it done. I'd rather have Dwayne Harris all day long.

[Andy Holloway]

I think a big part of that is this injury.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Lingering for a month.

[Jason Moore]

Most of his career. Vincent Jackson. Vincent Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

I think he's going to be out.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. I agree. And so we like Mike Evans. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, he's. He's a lot like the Allen Robinson type where you have to play him if you want those big boom weeks. So hopefully he's not your number one.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I love him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, no, no. I like him, but I liked him last week. And you just never know.

[Jason Moore]

And then tight ends, Austin sparing, Jenkins. Is he going to play?

[Mike Wright]

He's been limited all week.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's going to be out.

[Mike Wright]

Going to be out, too.

[Jason Moore]

Ladarious Green in a what, protective boot?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think he's out.

[Jason Moore]

And then Larry Donnell.

[Mike Wright]

He had the neck injury last week. I think he might be out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think all three of those guys are going to sit.

[Jason Moore]

You know, that sounded like a more, you know, more. Pretty nice report. More guys playing than not so long.

[Andy Holloway]

As you're not a tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, let's go. Titans at Saints. Does it. Does the beat go on for Drew Brees? That's the question everyone wants to know.

[Mike Wright]

I think it does. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But you've got to temper expectations, obviously. I mean.

[Jason Moore]

You mean not seven touchdowns?

[Andy Holloway]

Not seven touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been throwing mostly ones and a couple of twos this year. So now where. What do you put the over under on his touchdowns this game against a beatable defense in Tennessee? They're middle of the pack. They're not the worst against the pass, but they're definitely beatable.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they, you know, the Titans stink against the run, so I think Ingram has a big game. I think you're looking two to two touchdowns, probably for Breeze. Two to three.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I would put the over under at two and a half.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Two and a half. So you take the under, Andy.

[Jason Moore]

No I take the over.

[Andy Holloway]

You take the over.

[Mike Wright]

So you're.

[Jason Moore]

I'd go three.

[Mike Wright]

I think we're going to get the. The old three by three.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I do, too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So good game to start Drew Brees. Do you start him over Cam Newton?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

You start him over Matt Castle? No, I'm. So we think Mariota's playing. What is the impact of Mario to playing? But right out.

[Mike Wright]

That's. That's brutal. I think you get. You have to give the big boost to Walker, Delaney. Walker. I like him. It's good. I like him a lot this week. And let's see what we can get out of Doriel Green, Beckham this week. Can we finally get some targets over to his direction? I think the fantasy community really would like to see what he could do given an opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

I completely agree. Tell me a couple things here. One, tell me how you would rank the Saints wide receivers in terms of starting them.

[Andy Holloway]

I would definitely rank them. Cooks then snead than Colston.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

And I would go snead. Cooks Colston.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. But monitor snead.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, of course.

[Jason Moore]

Of course.

[Mike Wright]

With the health. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And then lastly, with Kyrie Robinson out, C.J. spiller had a somewhat productive week last week, especially in PPR formats. Would you flex him out?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think C.J. spiller is a flexible option. He can touch his toes, but he.

[Jason Moore]

Is able to go flexible than Chris Thompson.

[Mike Wright]

Chris Thompson can only get to his ankles.

[Andy Holloway]

I was genuinely hearing that question.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you were.

[Andy Holloway]

As in, what's. What are his muscles like?

[Mike Wright]

I've seen him do yoga. His Warrior three is just pitiful.

[Jason Moore]

I would rather yoga.

[Mike Wright]

Dude.

[Jason Moore]

Yoga is just called. You know what yoga's called for me? Tall guy falling down. That's. That's my best yoga move is tall guy, awkward bird falling down. That's all.

[Mike Wright]

I. I like it.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Spiller over Chris Thompson.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I don't mind Thompson this week.

[Mike Wright]

And Ingram, man. I think Ingram is just going to start eating the rest of the season, though. Robinson just to snatch away touchdowns. I think they all go to Ingram. Of course Spiller can get him from distance, but anything up close is Ingram.

[Jason Moore]

Now, let me recommend something to fantasy players now that the situation is a little more clear in New Orleans. You want CJ Spiller on your team if you're an Ingram owner. Ingram does have a history with some injury issues. If he's getting a larger workload now, you never know what's going to happen. You're coming into the playoffs. And Spiller would be A guy that could step into that role if he had to. Okay. They don't want him to be the between the tackle all the time, but he could do it. And so you, you kind of want that handcuff if he's available in your league. So that'd be my advice to you. The Saints are favored pretty heavily in this game, so it'll be a good one to see. But in New Orleans, they play well and I expect a lot of fantasy points from that side of the ball. The Raiders go into Pittsburgh well.

[Mike Wright]

So how do you guys feel about Mariota knowing that the Saints are kind of near the bottom of passing defense?

[Andy Holloway]

He has the chance, I think, to put up a big game, but there's so crucial. Yeah, there's so many other, other guys that I think have a higher floor. I would not be shocked if Mariota has a great game, but I don't want to chase after that just because of this defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, that was, that's a good point. We didn't, we didn't speak to him flex wise or stream wise. I mean, Raiders go in to play Pittsburgh, very high scoring game. Really don't know what to expect, to be honest with you, because Steelers defense on one hand has been very good. They played great last week even though they lost to Cincinnati. But the Raiders have been flying high. And we had our jointhefoot.com you know, the Foot Clan mailbag show yesterday. Oh, man. And I think about eight times we sent in the car when the question came up. So we like, do we like Carr?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we like Carr.

[Mike Wright]

Do we like, do you like him more than Big Ben, though?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, because of just, you know, Pittsburgh's at home. The weapons we like, we like Big Ben. But he looked slow last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he looked very hobbled and rusty. I mean, the, some of those throws were just bad. Especially the, the, the final throw of the game where he, they could have. I can't remember if it was a tie or take the lead, but he threw overthrew Brown by a couple yards out of the end zone. I mean, that's, that's not typical Big Ben.

[Jason Moore]

So Martavis Bryant, what was the snap count last week? We looked at this Yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

Bryant Over 80% of snaps, which is fantastic. He is. If you give Martavis Bryant Over 80% of the snaps, get Big Ben a little bit healthier, of course he's going to go off.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think Martavius has the potential for one of those huge weeks just based on the snap count. He does so much with so little historically in his career. And if you give him some more opportunities, it's not like the Raiders are very good against the pass.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, not second.

[Jason Moore]

Second of the worst in the league. So I think this game is a high scoring game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Well, you got two teams that are both really good against the run so far this year, and when that happens and both teams are vulnerable through the air and both teams have a good quarterback, it's a recipe for a shootout.

[Mike Wright]

Now, even though the Raiders are good against the run, I'm still all in on D'Angelo Williams. I think he can go in and be 80% of Le'Veon Bell. And with Le'Veon Bell, if it's a good rushing defense, I don't care, because he just. It's. You get so much production through ground and through air. By the end of the day, you have a. You have a good fantasy game.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they're not going to be stacking the box against the team with the amount of weapons in the passing game, so. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then what do we say? Heath Miller.

[Mike Wright]

I like Heath Miller.

[Jason Moore]

This week, the forecast for him changes.

[Mike Wright]

With Big Ben and Levon. Levon.

[Jason Moore]

Levon Levy.

[Mike Wright]

That's his insurance twin.

[Jason Moore]

Levin.

[Mike Wright]

Levon.

[Jason Moore]

Levon.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, they were separated at.

[Jason Moore]

I have time to film some.

[Mike Wright]

And Levon Bell was a parent trapped away to France.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. Classic American tale.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know what my point was.

[Jason Moore]

I think we're talking about Heath Miller.

[Mike Wright]

Heath Miller, with Levy on Bell out, has seen an uptick of targets the first two weeks last week. So he's. Heath Miller is back in the tight end possibilities.

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you want, Cooper or Crabtree?

[Jason Moore]

Cooper. I looked at this yesterday. It's Cooper.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's. It's close, but I think Cooper is the. Is the more. Boom.

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you want, Cooper or Martavis Bryant?

[Jason Moore]

Give me Martavis, man.

[Mike Wright]

I think I would. I think I would still take Cooper.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, okay.

[Mike Wright]

That's. But that's tough, man. I want in on this. This Raiders Steelers game for sure.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we got to move on. We got to go to the Giants at the Buccaneers. Let me ask you this. Would you start Jameis Winston over Matt Ryan?

[Mike Wright]

No, no.

[Jason Moore]

Andrew Luck this week.

[Andy Holloway]

I have him one spot below Luck.

[Mike Wright]

I have Winston one spot above Luck.

[Jason Moore]

So Luck plays Denver. So mine, people.

[Mike Wright]

I would.

[Jason Moore]

Marcus, Mario.

[Mike Wright]

I close my eyes and when I click.

[Jason Moore]

Winston or Mariota?

[Mike Wright]

Winston.

[Jason Moore]

Winston or Cousins?

[Andy Holloway]

Winston.

[Mike Wright]

Cousins.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

We're kind of opposite opposites easier.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I don't like you very much today.

[Jason Moore]

Do we think that Duck. Now keep in mind the Giants just gave up seven touchdown passes to a quarterback, which is why I bring it up because Winston might be a streamable option. He hasn't thrown an interception, I believe in three or four weeks. Eli Manning is a must start.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

This game is in Tampa. They're playing a lot better. I like this game for Mike Evans quite a bit. Evans, you know, you match him up against a team that gave up seven touchdowns through the air and I think, you know, if somebody's going to have success in the past game, it's going to be Evans. We know that. What about Doug Martin? Bounce back week for him?

[Mike Wright]

I would think so. More. I think he'll have a better week than last week. But the Giants are bottom lines. Yeah, they're right and kind of in the middle on the run defense. But like we just said on the last game, their passing defense is so bad that that teams just, they choose to pass on the Giants and you don't have to run on them because you can pass so well. And so which eventually I think Doug Martin will still get production, but I don't expect a kind of those huge week when he was, when he was rolling those the three weeks where you just monster games after monster game, multi touchdown games. I'm not expecting that this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's where for this game the guy that's interesting to me and I've been kind of toying around with how high I think is Sims because you don't have weapons in the passing game and you've got a really vulnerable team through the air. And Sims has been a running back used in the passing game a lot.

[Jason Moore]

Sims or Spiller.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, that is, that is dead tough. I'm going to take, I'm going to take Sims.

[Mike Wright]

I would go Sims.

[Jason Moore]

Sims or Chris Thompson. I guess you say Sims. Yeah. One other question I had for this game. I don't think we're starting any tight ends based on their situation right now. How do you guys treat Shane Vereen and his production levels right now? Because you know, last week another big game, eight catches, scores a touchdown, doesn't get the ball between the tackles. Very hard to predict his, his workload. Maybe he's in that same category with the Spiller and the Sims and the Thompson and the passing down, middling back. But I mean, how do you feel about him from a fantasy perspective?

[Andy Holloway]

If you have to, you know, if you're short, this is a heavy bye week. If you're looking for a guy that can put up points this week. Vereen is absolutely a guy that can do that. The difference that I see between Vereen and the Sims Spillers Thompson is that those guys all have a. That isn't zero. And we've seen this year where Vereen just. He either can have a great game and then the next one come out and just not even be used. Whether Orleans Darkwa possibly being back, it just muddies the water more. So Barine is he's able to be flexed. But just know that you've got a higher ceiling, a much lower floor.

[Mike Wright]

Vereen has a clear pattern going on of boom, boom, bad, bad boom, bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Bad boom, bad, bad, bad, boom, boom.

[Jason Moore]

We both. I thought we'd do it together, and.

[Mike Wright]

He boomed last week. So I'm calling two bad weeks for Shane Vereen.

[Jason Moore]

So that's your confidence level.

[Mike Wright]

That's. That's how I play roulette.

[Jason Moore]

All right, guys. The Falcons head into San Francisco and Goldilocks Gabbard gets the start. Now, let me say this. I'm surprised. I get. I know it's a home game for San Francisco. I'm surprised the lines only seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Me too.

[Jason Moore]

And I suppose this has to do with the Falcons have not played well. They just lost at home to Tampa. So what's wrong? What are you looking at me for?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I just. I almost vomited because I thought I.

[Jason Moore]

Already did my start.

[Mike Wright]

I already did yours.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was the St. Louis Minnesota game.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay, good. I thought you were going to do an almost upset, and I was going.

[Jason Moore]

To be like, I will. If I had to bet on the game.

[Andy Holloway]

My pants.

[Jason Moore]

I would take the 49ers plus seven.

[Andy Holloway]

No way.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

You want to water Bet it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Waterbed.

[Mike Wright]

I bet you guys are gonna go to Wheel of water dot com. Oh, grab that free app.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

With a frog in her throat. Goldilocks Gabbard gets the start the. The games in San Francisco.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The offense for Atlanta has been struggling. They haven't scored enough points. There's been red zone turnovers. Matt Ryan is not somebody I'm super confident in starting right now. I would start him in this game, but I wouldn't feel great about it because he just hasn't given me any of those. Someone was asking me earlier, you know, they said I need a lot of points. Eli or Matt Ryan?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's definitely Eli.

[Jason Moore]

It's not been Matt Ryan this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's Eli.

[Jason Moore]

You know, Devonta Freeman doesn't need to score to give you a great week as an RB1 anymore. He hasn't scored in two weeks straight. Still put up like 18 in our. In our league format. Half point PPR. So we're confident in Freeman. The report out of San Francisco for the running backs is what a three headed monster in San Francisco and it's hard to call it a monster.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Just gonna say it's like a. It's like a three headed puppy.

[Jason Moore]

Right. The three headed puppy offense we got what Pierre Thomas Gaskins. I think a three legged chain drone.

[Andy Holloway]

A three legged dog is much better.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, come on now.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't run fast if you're a three legged dog.

[Jason Moore]

I think a three legged dog is accurate. That's all I can think about. McLaughlin.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so we're starting Julio. We don't worry about that. What's the report on Bolden? Is he back?

[Andy Holloway]

He's still, I believe, being held completely out of practice. I'm not sure if he was limited today, but I think he missed practice yesterday. And there's a. I mean Bolden's another one of those tough Eric Decker type guys where, you know, he plays injured, but I think there's a legitimate chance he doesn't play again this week.

[Jason Moore]

So do you start Torrey Smith with the new quarterback?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

Do you, you know, think that Gabbert will see Tori Smith if he's completely uncovered on the side of the field at the goal line? 50, 50 shot. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the only place they're going to get.

[Mike Wright]

Blaine Gabbard might have those flowing locks in his face.

[Jason Moore]

I don't even.

[Mike Wright]

Just Blaine Gabbard still have his long hair?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think so.

[Mike Wright]

I sure hope he does.

[Jason Moore]

He does not. I don't. I don't think he does.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that ruins everything. Blaine Gabbard.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe you can grow it out.

[Mike Wright]

You've gone from bad to worse.

[Andy Holloway]

That might help his passing. The problem is the Falcons.

[Mike Wright]

He's reversed. Same thing.

[Jason Moore]

He just looks like a normal, upstanding backup quarterback now.

[Andy Holloway]

I like Tori Smith. I think Tori Smith gets better with Gabbert than he was with Kaepernick. However, in this matchup against the COVID three, the whole point of Torrey Smith of those long bombs isn't going to happen. So I would, I would, I would steer completely clear.

[Jason Moore]

You guys want to know a hot tip? Fantasy tip?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Hot wheel of water tip. Oh, a hot don't make a bet about the 49ers keeping a game closed before you run through who's playing in the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because now that I've walked back through. Who's playing in the game? I don't know. Who can make a play?

[Andy Holloway]

Vernon Davis. No. Oh, no.

[Mike Wright]

He's gone.

[Andy Holloway]

He's gone. Anquan Bolden. He's half dead.

[Mike Wright]

Carlos.

[Jason Moore]

Kendall Gaskins. Okay, yeah. I'm gonna lose that bet.

[Mike Wright]

It's Pierre Thomas time.

[Jason Moore]

All right, the. This is kind of an interesting one. The Broncos going to Indianapolis.

[Andy Holloway]

Real quick. If you've got the Atlanta defense on your waivers, get them, play them. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Broncos going to Indianapolis. It's kind of interesting because Peyton could break the yards record in this game going back to Indianapolis, which is just would be incredible. So give me the highlights. Fantasy wise, the Broncos are a defense above all others right now. So do you start anybody from Indianapolis with any type of confidence whatsoever?

[Mike Wright]

The only guy I would start would be Gore.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Frank Gore. And that's it.

[Jason Moore]

And so we're benching Luck for nearly everybody.

[Mike Wright]

For. Yeah, not everybody, but there are a good amount of quarterbacks.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather.

[Jason Moore]

You got to start an Indianapolis wide receiver that's not Ty Hilton because he's out and his name is Moncrief. Okay, I might. What about Fleener?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Fleeners might be an okay option.

[Jason Moore]

Stream the flea.

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather. I would rather go Allen just for the hope of a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

How about all those owners that spent money on the waiver wire for Vernon Davis this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

Good luck. It's going to take some time for him to really get assimilated.

[Jason Moore]

And do we expect some bounce back from Emmanuel Sanders after struggling last week?

[Mike Wright]

I would. Yeah, I would think so. That the Colts defense has been pretty rough, so I look for Thomas and Sanders to have big games.

[Jason Moore]

Anything else stand out from this game that we need to cover?

[Mike Wright]

Not really. This one's pretty cut and dry.

[Jason Moore]

Eagles go into Dallas. Dallas is in a tailspin. This is a divisional matchup. It is the, you know, the much anticipated Bradford Castle face to square off.

[Andy Holloway]

Eagles are coming off of a buy. They've had an extra week to prepare.

[Mike Wright]

I've actually heard, I read something about why the offense has gotten better because they're playing both Ertz and Selleck at the same time because teams just knew if Selleck is out, they're going to run. If Ertz is out, they're going to pass. So they've started. They've just started throwing them both out. Hey, it works. It's worked. The Philadelphia offense has been better.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I really like both running back starts in this game. McFadden and Murray, I think will both have pretty good games. I like Murray a lot more, but McFadden just from a quantity standpoint. Do you agree?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. I love, love both of them. I think both of them finished top 12.

[Jason Moore]

What do we think about Des Bryant, game two?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Still Matt Castle.

[Jason Moore]

Still Matt Castle problem. I think he is going to get force fed a little bit. I put him in the wide receiver 2 range myself. What do you guys think?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think low end 2 is fine because of the sheer amount of targets and volume and he can break a tackle, but I'm not expecting anything great and I start a lot of guys over him.

[Jason Moore]

How are. What is your kind of fantasy thoughts on Jason Whitten right now? Because it's not been. It's not been great.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think it's Whiton and see.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. I didn't even get it. It was so bad.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, nice.

[Andy Holloway]

It was almost like a Murray runs through it.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, I got a cool meme out of that.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true. I would, I would wait and see. I'm not too confident starting Witten right now.

[Jason Moore]

Would you start Whitten or Ertz? The two Titans in this game?

[Mike Wright]

I'd go with Ertz.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

You think Ertz is going to score a touchdown this year?

[Andy Holloway]

You know, with the amount of opportunities.

[Jason Moore]

It'S kind of incredible.

[Andy Holloway]

Bradford just needs to luck into a good throw and he'll score one.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's move on to the Bears at the Chargers. Our last matchup. We want to go over the Monday night game. Philip Rivers has been on a tear regardless of winning or losing.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's just funny to think he's been so good even though he's also.

[Mike Wright]

Really 2 and 2.

[Jason Moore]

6. 2 and 6 is a team.

[Andy Holloway]

You watch him last game, he was terrible and then he gets great fantasy production.

[Mike Wright]

That's all we care about.

[Jason Moore]

How much, how much of an impact is Keenan Allen going out have on him?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you got to think it's a pretty, pretty decent chunk out of the game plan. However, I'm pretty confident that Stevie Johnson can give you a good bit of what Keenan Allen had been doing. I think he slides into that possession role. He'll get the shallow targets, he'll get the higher volume of targets. I think Malcolm Floyd, maybe he gets a slight bump. Would you give him a slight bump?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm very fine flexing Floyd this week. I think he's still fine flexing Floyd.

[Mike Wright]

He still does what Floyd does, though.

[Jason Moore]

Flexing Floyd is fine.

[Andy Holloway]

I like the alliteration yeah, it's fine.

[Mike Wright]

Very, very poetic. But I like Stevie Johnson a lot this week because I liked Keenan Allen a lot. I was going to like Keenan Allen a lot this week against the Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, this seems like a matchup, one of those where it. I want the pieces on both side of the ball because I don't think there's going to be a lot of defense here. And so there's. If you ask me, who do I sit in this game that is a normal, startable player. There's literally no one I want. Bennett's my start of the week. I would play Cutler, I would play Rivers. Obviously. Alshon Langford's your start of the week. You've got. Stevie Johnson gets a bump up. So everybody that's playing Antonio Gates, I think gets a bump up if he's playing.

[Jason Moore]

So this player got 18 carries and five catches last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Melvin Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Melvin Gordon, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So that's. I think that's the kind of the biggest question of this game is Gordon versus Woodhead.

[Jason Moore]

What are you doing in a bi week situation? I'm okay flexing Gordon out there. I think he's got a baseline. I think they're using him. He can't fumble. Don't go fumbling. And honestly, that's the. I wanted to mention that that is the risk with a Langford or anybody like that. That's brand new. It's the fact that if Langford came out just hypothetically and he fumbled on the first drive, it's probably a timeshare the rest of the game. There's a good chance John Fox is at the helm.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And so he'll risk anything. By the way, did you hear the report?

[Mike Wright]

I say Matt Forte is day to day, fellas.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I believe his words were like, what did he say? Literally day to day or something like that. Like he's sincerely day to day.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he's day to day.

[Jason Moore]

Players are day to day.

[Mike Wright]

Alshon Jeffrey was day to day and Kevin White, who's still on the inactive roster day today. He's day to day.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So this should be a fantasy. There's nobody. We're sitting. Really. The only question I would say is, like, put these guys in order. Mikey Swelson, Stevie Johnson and Malcolm Floyd.

[Mike Wright]

We'll go Stevie then I'll take.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd go Stevie Floyd and then.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think the other.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I would do.

[Mike Wright]

The two are close for me, but I'd probably lean Floyd.

[Jason Moore]

All right, it's time to take a break and talk about some daily Fantasy football with our good friend Chris Meaney of the Fantasy Sports Network.

[Andy Holloway]

The Daily Dose.

[Mike Wright]

The fantasy footballers are joined once again by by our bestest friend from the Great White North, Chris Meaney from the Fantasy Sports Network. He's here to talk some some DFS strategies. How are you doing this fine day?

[Chris Meaney]

I feel the same about you guys. You guys are my besties as well.

[Jason Moore]

That's awesome.

[Mike Wright]

Someday we'll be able to hug with real arms and not just digital arms.

[Chris Meaney]

You guys up here. We're hoping to get you guys up here in the Fantasy Sports Network studios hopefully pretty soon.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, we would love it. We'll do a show up there.

[Jason Moore]

Wa for it to get nice and cold up there. Wait for it to get nice and chilly.

[Mike Wright]

It's just getting nice where we live.

[Andy Holloway]

You realize we do not own jackets.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, that's the thing. We'll wait till it's like minus 25 and snowing and we'll make sure you.

[Jason Moore]

Guys get up here when they're given plane tickets away.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's get into the Daily Talk. So let's start at the top of the board. The big budget guys, the big budget quarterbacks. Are you buying a Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, what are you doing this week, Chris?

[Chris Meaney]

I'm certainly going to have to have Tom Brady in one of my lineups. I mean this guy is just, I feel like he's just going to crush Washington this weekend. So I'm going to have Tom Brady. Obviously you're going to have to get some values in there if you're going to do Tom Brady. Last week I was off Freeman and it wasn't really a Freeman week, but he was actually okay. He just got a couple fumbles and didn't find the end zone and I think that might be his floor. I mean the whole at least 10 double digit points without getting the touchdown. So I think Freeman could. I'm back on Freeman. Eight, nine against San Francisco. I'm certainly going to have to pay for Tom Brady though. And at $9,500 it's a lot of money. But I do like him. And then again, I mean, you're kind of silly if you don't go Odell Beckham Jr. Again in at least one of your lineups. It's a nice match of the Giants against, against Tampa Bay we saw last week. Wow. Pittsburgh or not. I was big on Pittsburgh Cincy. I thought that'd be high scoring game. But it was the Saints and the Giants. So again I'd like to pay for Odell Beckham Jr. And Antonio Brown, still at 87 seems like a seal. Those are the top guys that I'd be willing to pay for.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, let's get into the. The middle tier guys and guys who we're used to performing like, let's say an Eddie Lacy. What are your thoughts on a guy like him in a tougher matchup?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, I'm just. I have to see it. I have to see it from Eddie Lacy. I mean, I just haven't seen it yet. He's averaging eight FanDuel points per game. That's not great. It's not somebody that I trust. Certainly not in a 5050 or a cash game and a tournament play could be okay. But again, I just. I really have to see it from these guys first. I'd rather play McFadden 65 against Philadelphia. I'd rather play Langford 64 against San Diego. San Diego struggled against the run. I expect. I don't think Lankford's all that great, but I do expect him to get about 20 touches again with New England. I think it's going to be a blunt game. 64 is okay, but again, you're just. You just don't know with Blunt and Andrews. Andrews is supposed to be the guy for Tennessee now. I just. I don't have much stock and faith in him either. I just feel like they're going to be down in this game. They're going to have troubles running the ball. But I mean, D'Angelo Williams at 6:5, it seems like a steal. I know you guys are big on him, too, because I got a couple questions about D'Angelo Williams and somebody else.

[Jason Moore]

Six five is amazing.

[Chris Meaney]

Six five is a steal. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And I think. I mean, the first two games of the year without Le'Veon Bell, he was great and he was. He still had 100 yards last week. I mean, and he didn't play the full game. So. I do like DeAndre Williams at 6 5. I think it's a steal. I'm going big on Oakland this week. I just love the Raiders. I like Derek Carr. I keep talking about Crabtree at 5 8. His price has not changed. He's still 5, 8, 5, 5. Two touchdowns last two games. He got at least 50 yards in four straight games. He's got eight targets in every single game, but one where you got the ankle injury and he was bombed out a little bit. So I love Carr. I love Crabtree. I just think that people should continue to roll out with. Roll these guys and even Amari Co is nice as well at 7 3.

[Mike Wright]

D'Angelo Williams for DFS reminds me greatly of last year and it was, it was pretty close to about this time when Giovanni Bernard went down and Jeremy Hill arrived on the over and he was just the DFS monster for mega cheap for weeks before his price eventually went up. All right, let's talk some value guys. The, the, the bums at the bottom. Nobody wants this trash except the sifter of the trash who finds the diamonds in the rough. Chris Meaney. Who do we got at the bottom this week, my man?

[Chris Meaney]

Well, this is the bottom of the bottom. It's Justin Hardy. If like if Hankerson doesn't play actually think Hardy could be okay, listen, you know they threw the ball 45 times. Ryan and Roddy White only had three targets. That's the bottom of the barrel that I would go with. Justin Hardy. There's a couple other guys I like more than him. Malcolm Floyd I like a lot. Against Chicago 61 Like Brendan Lefell again, I think that the Patriots are going to be able to have their way with Washington. So if you want to get a piece of that offense, 5:2 is fairly cheap for Bren Lafell. And I know we didn't touch on Brees at all and I know a lot of people may be on because of that big week, but he has an amazing schedule coming up and I think people should take notice of that. You got Tennessee, Washington, Houston, then Carolina, Tampa, Detroit, Jacksonville, Atlanta. To finish, his favorite target seems to be Watson. Ben Watson has 27 targets, 23 catches over 300 yards and two scores over the last three weeks. It seems pretty good. We all thought Jeremy Hill, I certainly thought or not Jeremy, Josh Hill was going to be the guy, the sleeper guy. But it seems like Watson is taking everything that Jimmy Graham had last year.

[Mike Wright]

And so a defense. Let's talk defenses this time. Who do you like this week that we can get a little bit cheaper?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, defense. It's funny, I always kind of say I'm going to get the cheapest defense, but the past couple of weeks of the guys have been winning the millionaire. It's they had 20 points from their defense and 20 from their kicker. I like the Eagles defense. I think that they make things happen. They're averaging 10 FanDuel points per game which out of all the other defenses going this week, there's only three of them that average double digit points. And you guys obviously the Broncos up at the top and then you got the Rams in there. Philadelphia against Dallas A team that is obviously having issues getting touchdowns. Castle does not look good at all. So I like that defensive make things happen. You know, get a couple picks are opportunistic, and they do get some picks. As much as, you know, a lot of people like to pick on that secondary, they kind of get things happen that way. So the other defense is Carolina that's averaging 10 points, and I'm not. I'm not playing them against Aaron Rodgers, who could only get 70 yards last week. I got two defenses here if you want some fat Mayo joining me right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What up, Mayo?

[Chris Meaney]

What's happening, guys? You guys are overlooking the awesome defenses of the AFC east, the Bills and that pass rush against the Dolphins. Like, let's not buy into the Dolphins being back. The Bills are going to be fine. And the jets against Jacksonville. Come on, now. Jacksonville bleeds points to defense. No one's taking these two. They're great defense.

[Andy Holloway]

How do you not bring up any.

[Chris Meaney]

That's a trap. That's a trap. That's a trap. Blaine Gabbard's gonna be okay. Yeah, I'll be fine. Where the point's coming from.

[Andy Holloway]

We need to do a water bet with you, Mayo, and we'll throw the. The ice on you when we get out there.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's not gonna hurt. Like, ice on ice is. Is not a problem. So a sneak. Sneak appearance by Pat Mayo. Guerrilla warfare fantasy advice. We love it. So thanks, guys. Thank you so much. We'll check in with you next week.

[Chris Meaney]

All right, guys, good luck this weekend.

[Jason Moore]

All right, more good stuff from Chris Meaney and the special guest Pat Mayo dropping in. We got to get him on the show again.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we do.

[Jason Moore]

Because he's like a espresso to the show. Livens it up.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to go with a more narcotic like, substance.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, let's make sure. Yeah, we'll make sure to tweet that out to him, let him know what we think. Let's go ahead and take a couple minutes, get into the listener mailbag before we close out this Friday show.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

Mailbag. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right, you know the drill. If you want to ask us a question, go to the website thefantasyfootballers.com, click on the submit a question button, and ba boom. You send us your question.

[Mike Wright]

Ba ba, ba, ba boom.

[Jason Moore]

George in Miami. I'm in second, and I'm playing against the first place team this week in a nice matchup.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Running backs are Dion Lewis, lamar Miller, and D'Angelo Williams. And you got to start two of them.

[Mike Wright]

Half point PPR. Who? Half point PPR. Makes it interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think D'Angelo. I want in there and I think I'm gonna go Lamar Miller over Dion Lewis. What do you guys think?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go Louis Lewis Williams for me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, me too.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Lucas in Sao Paulo, Brazil. I feel like we're getting a Sao Paulo, Brazil question in every mailbag section.

[Mike Wright]

Bonjour.

[Jason Moore]

It might be Lucas every time. Hey guys, should I start Allen Robinson or stay in the flames with Stefan Diggs?

[Andy Holloway]

Stefan Diggs. I think Alan Robinson is going to be on Rebus island this week and I don't like him.

[Jason Moore]

I agree completely.

[Mike Wright]

I think I don't love Diggs.

[Jason Moore]

Matchup this week though. Me, I just, I just, you know, the Rams, they're getting it done. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Andy from Phoenix has a question.

[Mike Wright]

Andy from across the table?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Andy from across the table. Related somewhat. I've got two defenses that I can't decide who to play. Rams in Minnesota. Who? The Rams have been on fire. The jets at home against Jacksonville. Jacksonville reminds me a little too much of the way Oakland can. You know, they have weapons. Jets were negative 8 in our league last week. Who would you play in that? Because I've gone back and forth. I've literally moved them in and out of my lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

I know who I would play. I would play the Jets. They're a ball hawking team. They're at home. Their pride has been hurt from last week and I think they're going to come out and smash them in the mouth.

[Mike Wright]

I would also go with the jets. The. I know the Rams. I agree with you. They've been on fire and I expect them to continue. However their Minnesota is at home. They have a pretty strong offensive line up there in Minnesota and you still have the Adrian Peterson factor and Diggs is really coming on. There's just, there's just a higher, to me, a higher chance that Minnesota at home can put up some points.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Ryan in Holland. Holland Patent, New York. Should I start Mount Martellus Bennett or Jordan Reed?

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh, I like that one. Martellus Bennett is my start of the week. I really like him, but not sure I like him more than Jordan Reed.

[Mike Wright]

You sure do.

[Andy Holloway]

Then I'm going Martellus Bennett.

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna take Reed.

[Mike Wright]

Rule 86.

[Jason Moore]

I love that. I can't believe you. Rule 86 in the fantasy handbook matched his jersey number. That was really funny yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

So it Rule 86 for those who are not in the know is if Jordan Reed is playing, he is in your lineup.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So. All right, that's it for today's show. I want to remind everybody to check out jointhefoot.com visit our fantasy football community, come talk to us. We do this show for. For you, for the listeners. That's why we're here. And man, there were some really, really funny, really great itunes reviews that came in over the last 24 hours, including one that simply said, I list the title of the review. Hold on.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Reviewasaurus Rex.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The title of the review was Mike's laugh.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I like Mike's already.

[Mike Wright]

I like it.

[Jason Moore]

And it said mike has a contagious laugh, which is why I listen to the podcast every day. Also, I'm winning in all of my leagues. Thanks, guys. So one part laughter.

[Mike Wright]

A little known fact, because I don't publicize it very much, but I have an additional podcast. It's just five minutes of me laughing.

[Jason Moore]

Is it?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Does it have your guitar ballad in the background?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, this is. This is just unadulterated mic laughter for five minutes on loop.

[Jason Moore]

I not subscribing to that one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So, hey, thanks for listening today.

[Mike Wright]

My mom does.

[Jason Moore]

We'll be back after week nine and check out the Wheel of Water app. Wheelofwater.com Wheel of Water.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the fantasy footballers podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter the ffballers.