Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Wk3 Matchups, Full Stream Ahead, Daily Dose

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Episode: Week 3 Matchups, Full Stream Ahead, Daily Dose
Release Date: September 25, 2015

In this engaging episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, along with guest Chris Meaney from the Fantasy Sports Network, provide a comprehensive analysis of Week 3 NFL matchups. Packed with injury updates, strategic fantasy forecasts, streaming options, and listener interactions, this episode equips fantasy managers with the insights needed to excel in their leagues.

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Injury Updates and News

The episode begins with a deep dive into the latest NFL injuries affecting fantasy decisions for Week 3:

• Andre Ellington: Confirmed out of the lineup due to injury [10:10].
• Chris Ivory (Seahawks): Dealing with a groin muscle but is listed as "in." Hosts express skepticism about his availability, with Mike Wright predicting he might be out despite the listing [10:28].
  • Andy Holloway: "I think he'll be out."
  • Chris Meaney: "I'm reluctantly saying in."
• Todd Gurley (Rams): Expected to debut this week. While Chris Meaney anticipates limited snaps initially, Andy Holloway forecasts Gurley becoming a valuable startable option by Week 5 [10:58].
• Devonte Adams & Eddie Lacy: Both set for Monday Night Football, with Mike Wright leaning towards Lacy being out and Chris Meaney supporting his availability [11:27].
• Nuke Hopkins: Dealing with a concussion, but Mike Wright considers him startable if available [12:07].
• Tevin Coleman: Out for Week 3 with broken ribs [12:19].
• Lamar Miller & Jordan Cameron: Mixed status with Chris Meaney favoring starting Cameron for the Rams [37:18].

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway (07:55): "Jordan Reed had a really good game that could have been much bigger had a couple throws gone his way in the end zone. But big game for Reed. If you started Reed, you're happy."

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Fantasy Forecast: Week 3 Matchups

The hosts analyze key Week 3 matchups, offering strategic recommendations for fantasy lineups:

Jacksonville Jaguars vs. New England Patriots

• Blake Bortles: Identified as a startable quarterback against the Patriots' struggling pass defense.
  • Andy Holloway [15:43]: "Blake Bortles is a startable... the Patriots D is not giving up much."
• TJ Yeldin: Recommended as a starting running back due to favorable matchup and lack of competition.
  • Mike Wright [17:03]: "TJ Yeldin has great potential with 25 carries and three catches last week."
• Robert Gronkowski & Dion Lewis: Key players to watch, with Lewis recommended for reliability.
  • Andy Holloway [19:06]: "Proceed with Lewis until further notice."

San Diego Chargers vs. Minnesota Vikings

• Philip Rivers: Boasting an impressive 91% accuracy rating, Rivers is a prime streaming quarterback option.
  • Mike Wright [19:17]: "Philip Rivers is having one of the most accurate starts of his career."
• Melvin Gordon & Adrian Peterson: Both backs are highlighted for their strong matchups against Minnesota's run defenses.
  • Mike Wright [20:04]: "Good news for Adrian Peterson and Melvin Gordon."

Philadelphia Eagles vs. New York Jets

• Robert Gronkowski: Despite facing a tough Jets defense, his talent makes him a viable start.
  • Mike Wright [21:11]: "Robert Gronkowski is the one guy you need to shut down for the Patriots D."
• Dion Lewis vs. Amir Abdullah: Split opinions on the best flex option, with both players having potential based on usage and matchup.

Chicago Bears vs. Seattle Seahawks

• Jimmy Graham: Selected as a top tight end due to his connection with the Seahawks' offense.
  • Andy Holloway [36:41]: "Jimmy Graham is my tight end start of the week."
• Doug Baldwin: Recommended as the primary receiver for Seattle due to slot targets.
  • Andy Holloway [36:59]: "If I had to start a Seattle wide receiver, it's Baldwin."

Denver Broncos vs. Detroit Lions

• Amir Abdullah: Highly ranked for his involvement in the passing game against Denver's strong defense.
  • Andy Holloway [37:18]: "Amir Abdullah's speed and passing role make him valuable this week."
• CJ Anderson: Despite injury concerns, he's considered the workhorse back if healthy.
  • Chris Meaney [39:12]: "CJ Anderson is the workhorse."

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway (18:10): "The line in this game is 13 1/2 points. I don't expect the Jaguars to be able to go into Foxborough and win the game. This game's going to be closer than you think it is."

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Full Stream Ahead

This segment focuses on streaming quarterbacks—identifying low-ownership QBs who can deliver high points:

• Alex Smith (49ers vs. Chargers): Recommended for his consistent yardage and favorable matchup.
  • Mike Wright [50:26]: "Alex Smith has averaged over 200 yards a game with two touchdowns."
• Tyrod Taylor (Bills vs. Dolphins): Selected for his steady performance and matchup against Miami.
  • Chris Meaney [51:25]: "Tyrod Taylor is averaging 200 yards in the air and 40 on the ground."
• Blake Bortles (Jaguars vs. Patriots): Andy endorses Bortles as a high-potential, low-ownership option against New England.
  • Andy Holloway [51:23]: "Blake Bortles is a guy you can throw in there. I would start him over Joe Flacco."

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway (53:11): "Blake Bortles is a guy that you can throw in there. I would start him over Joe Flacco this week."

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Daily Dose: Insights from Chris Meaney

Guest Chris Meaney shares strategies for daily fantasy sports (DFS), emphasizing:

• Consistency vs. Upside: Advises caution with inconsistent players like Travis Benjamin in cash games, recommending them for tournaments due to their potential for big plays [43:32].
• Stacking QBs with Receivers: Highlights the effectiveness of pairing quarterbacks with reliable receivers (e.g., Tom Brady with Julian Edelman) to maximize DFS performance [46:58].
• Value Plays: Suggests budget-friendly options such as Gary Burnage against weak secondaries and Jeremy Macklin for screen pass opportunities, ideal for tournament lineups [47:09].

Notable Quote:

• Chris Meaney [43:49]: "I just don't think that Benjamin is going to be a consistent guy. I mean, that guy ran nine passing routes and that's just really not all that great."

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Mailbag: Listener Questions Answered

The hosts address listener queries, providing tailored advice:

• Antonio Brown vs. Le'Veon Bell: For a listener with both players, the consensus is to retain Antonio Brown due to a stronger wide receiver core.
  • Chris Meaney [54:27]: "Do not make a move unless somebody's blowing you away with an offer."
• Flex Position Dilemma (Amir Abdullah vs. Dion Lewis vs. Brandon Cooks): Debate ensues with Mike Wright favoring Dion Lewis and Andy Holloway supporting Amir Abdullah. Chris Meaney suggests Stevie Johnson as an alternative [54:40].
• Andrew Luck vs. Carson Palmer: Split opinions on selecting the higher floor with Luck versus the higher ceiling with Palmer, ultimately leaning towards Luck for steadier production [56:04].
• Dropping Kyle Eiferd or Chris Polk: Mike Wright advises trading Kyle Eiferd to strengthen the team, emphasizing the importance of shopping around for the best trade offers [57:38].

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway (55:08): "You have to trade one of these guys and strengthen your team. But make sure whenever you do trades like this, you shop around."

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Conclusion

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts encourage listeners to engage with the Fantasy Footballers community through their website and social media platforms. Emphasizing a listener-centric approach, they highlight the importance of community feedback and shared success stories in enhancing the fantasy football experience.

Final Thoughts:

• Andy Holloway (58:52): "This show is made to be a community show, to be a show about the listeners, not about us. It's about the NFL. It's about getting you equipped to win your league."

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This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast serves as an essential guide for fantasy managers aiming to navigate Week 3 with confidence. From injury assessments to strategic player picks and DFS strategies, the podcast delivers actionable insights to elevate your fantasy game.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Friday, Friday, Friday. Come on down.

[Mike Wright]

Mike's happy.

[Andy Holloway]

You're slapping like seal. Yeah, that was a really weird, very weird clap.

[Chris Meaney]

I forgot we have video of the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm stupid. Welcome to the show, everybody. This is the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. If you don't know by now, maybe they don't know. I know.

[Chris Meaney]

Well, we. We welcome new members of the Foot Clan with. With open arms. Our arms are so wide open, you could call us Creed.

[Andy Holloway]

I was gonna say that.

[Chris Meaney]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't we used to make a lot of Creed jokes?

[Chris Meaney]

We did.

[Mike Wright]

I think we had a show once where. I don't think it was a long running.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it was like a year ago.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I made about three or four episodes worth of Creed jokes. Yeah, those should come back. We've got a really good show for you today. We have a bunch of injury updates, news, things like that. We have our fantasy forecast where we are previewing the. Did I say that word right?

[Mike Wright]

Previewing.

[Andy Holloway]

Previewing. Previewing the Week 3 matchups. We have our full stream ahead section with a drop this week and we did pretty good last week on our streaming quarterbacks. So pretty excited about this week. We have our daily dose section. We're talking with fantasy sports networks. Chris Meaney. It's good stuff. You excited?

[Mike Wright]

Excellent.

[Chris Meaney]

You don't have to convince me.

[Mike Wright]

Excellent lineup today.

[Andy Holloway]

I have a quick question for you guys, but first, let me tell the people how they can find us. You can go to the website thefantasyfootballers.com if you have a question, you can click the submit a question button. And if you're desperate, if you need an answer, if you want to guarantee that we get back to you, there are some options for you this weekend to do that. So you can get an answer real quick on a trade or on a waiver or start and sit. You can also check out our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com. we have over 500 listeners on there answering questions, talking to one another about their teams. We're on there, so check that [e-mail] you can find us on YouTube. You might be watching right now on YouTube.

[Mike Wright]

Comment and say hi.

[Chris Meaney]

You know what else is on YouTube? The week one and week two.

[Andy Holloway]

Water bets. Yeah, we paid those out yesterday. We all had, like, an equal amount of losses.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah. But it was good times. You can see the app that we're working on. We're working hard. I believe that it should be ready soon. Yeah, soon.

[Andy Holloway]

Completely free.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Free app. Spin the water wheel, lose a bet, get wet. Get wet.

[Mike Wright]

I've had a lot of people say that they're already making water bets and just waiting for the app. Oh, so that's catching.

[Andy Holloway]

I just can't wait to start seeing the videos.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Hit Twitter or YouTube.

[Mike Wright]

We got to have an official hashtag so we can find.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that would be very smart. So quick question for the day. Which two running backs lead the league in elusiveness with 12 missed tackles by defenders?

[Mike Wright]

Hmm. Okay.

[Chris Meaney]

I know one of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, because you cheated beforehand.

[Chris Meaney]

Because. No, no, I just. I looked in my brain.

[Andy Holloway]

You looked in your brain and found the answer?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, but it's Gio Bernard.

[Andy Holloway]

Geo Bernard.

[Chris Meaney]

Gio Bernard is one.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know the other answer?

[Chris Meaney]

I do not know the other. I'm going to, but I already got one. So now it's Jason's.

[Mike Wright]

You got one. The two guys that come to mind would be four set and Abdullah. I'm gonna go for set.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

It is Carlos Hyde.

[Chris Meaney]

Carlos Hyde is actually part of elusive rating. Is also being able to run people over.

[Mike Wright]

Apparently, yes.

[Chris Meaney]

Have to a dodge attack.

[Andy Holloway]

Believe it or not, Geo and Hyde had 12 missed tackles on them in the running game and three missed tackles in the passing game each. So the question for you is, is Gio Bernard, I guess. And Hyde, are they underrated?

[Chris Meaney]

Gio Bernard could be underrated if he gets the usage. What's. What's interesting is. Is just the Geo that we saw last year compared to this year. And. And I honestly, I think it's roll where they were trying to make Geo do things that he's. He's not built to do that. That aren't his. His. His talents and his physical traits.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't tell me what I can't do.

[Chris Meaney]

And that's what they tried.

[Mike Wright]

That's what they said.

[Chris Meaney]

And then Gio Bernard sucked and couldn't. Was getting three yards of carry. Now when you give him the opportunity based around what he can actually do, and you have Jeremy Hill when he's not on the bench, of course, to fill in the gaps, I think Geo, it could be he can be a flex play, a weekly flex play.

[Andy Holloway]

So for the Bengals themselves, they represent an offense that has a lot of fantasy start worthy guys. Then because you can start Geo, you can start Hill, you can start Eiford, you can start obviously A.J. green, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Dalton. Dalton. Maybe this week.

[Chris Meaney]

Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe so. All right, let's go ahead. You guys got anything else to add or can we get into the news?

[Chris Meaney]

News it.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's do a quick, quick blitz of the very exciting, pretty much the best game I've ever seen. New York Giants and Washington Redskins game from last night. Okay. Reuben Randall had a game. Yeah.

[Chris Meaney]

Dang it.

[Andy Holloway]

Ruben, we were wondering where you've been. But Randall, Randall had a pretty much like what I'd call a garbage time touchdown. Yeah, the touchdown was garb but 7 for 116. A touchdown.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, but then that's you, you can't argue with that stat line.

[Andy Holloway]

No, but the big thing that people want to know about is the breakdown of carries with Washington. Now Washington got behind quick and early and so their game plan was to catch up.

[Chris Meaney]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So not, not, not a lot of production from either player. However, Matt Jones had 26 snaps and it certainly looked like a team that was trying him out as that lead back.

[Mike Wright]

It looked to me like they're going to split carries but that they like Matt Jones more early in the game when the game was not out of hand or anything wrong. Matt Jones was the one getting drives first. You know, it's like first came Alfred Morris, like he, he was the first person to touch the ball. But then they took him out immediately, put Jones in for like two consecutive drives and at the end of the game he ended with a lot more snaps. And to me, I think Matt Jones is the going forward, the guy you start here.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to give you my hot take on this.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Alfred Morris is the type of running back that needs rhythm and needs to wear a defense down. I'm not sure that a split type of situation is going to be very good for Alfred Morris. And it seemed like he was disappointed when he ran off the field. He was not as productive as Jones. Neither guy was productive at all really. And Matt Jones though had a touchdown. Yeah, he just for like the fourth time among running backs in the NFL this season fumbled going into the end zone, which was disappointing. But Matt Jones, had he done that, he would have salvaged his day a little bit.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah. And Alf, you could see when they would call him off he was upset. He was, it wasn't like, okay, this is part of the plan. It was really, you're taking me off again.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what it looked like.

[Chris Meaney]

And for those wondering, Chris Thompson, just because of game script got the majority of the snaps because he's passing down.

[Andy Holloway]

Sky big, big game.

[Chris Meaney]

So the question is, I mean it's all three of these guys are so game flow dependent that I don't know if you can confidently start any of them.

[Mike Wright]

I will confidently start Matt Jones. I think that even we've seen the Redskins when they get down they still run the ball. They are a run team and I believe Matt Jones is the guy who they're going to start. So I personally on my teams will confidently start Matt Jones. Depending on who's on my lineup and what their matchup is, I'm not going to play against.

[Chris Meaney]

I would say I will confidently play Matt Jones. Matchup dependent.

[Andy Holloway]

Did we see that though?

[Mike Wright]

I think we saw that.

[Andy Holloway]

We saw them run the ball. They had 17 total carries across all running backs when they got down. Chris Thompson had eight catches. So I think that's just a difficult thing to assess. I agree with you though. I would start Matt Jones moving forward.

[Chris Meaney]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Based on what I saw last night, snap wise. So completely agree there. I think Matt Jones is the guy. If you're an alpha owner and you spin a pick on him earlier, then you're in trouble.

[Mike Wright]

Well, when I say they get down last game, they were, they were down last night, right? Nine points, super early. Ten points and they were still running the ball. But then it got out of control. I mean what was the game? It was 25 to 3 or something. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to run the ball when they need to score. You know, when they're down three or four possessions, obviously they're not going to run the ball then. But. But if they are down in a game, one or even two scores, I do.

[Andy Holloway]

Your point's not lost. They were the leading rushing team going into the game last night in terms of commitment to the run and into yardage.

[Mike Wright]

So did they really only have 17 runs?

[Andy Holloway]

11 for Jones and 6 for Morris?

[Chris Meaney]

I. If I have captain Kirk as my quarterback, I'm going to commit to the run as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we don't need to talk too much about. I will say this. Jordan Reed had a really good game that could have been much bigger had a couple throws gone his way in the end zone. But big game for Reed. If you started read, you're happy.

[Chris Meaney]

So we're talk moving forward. Reed is a tight end one. You play him until he's hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. So we're going to go ahead and talk injuries and see if you guys think some of these guys are playing.

[Mike Wright]

What's it going to be, McFly?

[Guest Speaker]

Are you in or out?

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're playing in or out. Andre Ellington out.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris Ivory.

[Chris Meaney]

Oh, he popped up yesterday and that.

[Andy Holloway]

Word popped with that. With the groin muscle, but he popped.

[Chris Meaney]

Up and personally said he's not sure if he's gonna be able to play with a quad and a groin.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna say in.

[Chris Meaney]

I'm reluctantly saying in. If you are an Ivory owner, protect yourself with blah Powell, who becomes a fine start.

[Andy Holloway]

I am an Ivory owner and I think he'll be out. Reggie Bush looking doubtful.

[Mike Wright]

Out.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason Whitten in.

[Chris Meaney]

Probably in.

[Andy Holloway]

Brandon Cooks.

[Chris Meaney]

Brandon Cooks is interesting because he's now missed multiple practices. He's insisting that he's okay. So I'm going to say in, but that's a situation to watch.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we get to see Todd Gurley debut this week?

[Chris Meaney]

I think so.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to say no, but I mean, it looks like he's going to be in. Maybe we'll see him for a snap or two.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah. Not workhorse, but I think he's going to get eased. The time has come for Gurdley.

[Andy Holloway]

Get ready. Get ready. I think by next week he's going to be relevant. He'll be startable after next week, so that.

[Chris Meaney]

Sure hope so.

[Andy Holloway]

This is week three, four. I think in week five, you'll be able to start him. All right. Devonte Adams and Eddie Lacy are both Monday night games, so this is important.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Are they both playing? Are they, Adam?

[Chris Meaney]

I'm saying Adams in, and, man, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Think they both might play.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah. These guys are harder to know because you'll. It's. You'll know on more on Saturday.

[Andy Holloway]

But what do you think right now?

[Mike Wright]

I think right now I would say Lacey out.

[Chris Meaney]

I would say Lacy in.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Dwayne Allen.

[Chris Meaney]

Out.

[Mike Wright]

Out.

[Andy Holloway]

Lorenzo Tally Ferro popped up and I'm saying he's out. Prashad Perryman, he's just back at practice.

[Chris Meaney]

I don't think he plays this week.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

What about the concussion situation with Nuke?

[Chris Meaney]

Nuke. Nuck.

[Andy Holloway]

Knock. Did I say Nuke?

[Chris Meaney]

I like Nuke, though.

[Mike Wright]

Nukem.

[Andy Holloway]

Nuk.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, Nuke. Nuke Hopkins. Nuke in the defense with touchdowns. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks, bro.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Tevin Coleman, Broken ribs.

[Chris Meaney]

I'm saying out.

[Mike Wright]

So out of Every fantasy lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

Is Devontae Freeman startable?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Start him over. This next guy, Lamar Miller.

[Chris Meaney]

I think I would. That's so gross.

[Mike Wright]

That is. And I believe I have him ranked higher than Miller.

[Chris Meaney]

Oh, I'm going to vomit.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Cameron In.

[Mike Wright]

In.

[Andy Holloway]

DeMarco Murray In.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, gross.

[Andy Holloway]

And Eric Decker out.

[Mike Wright]

I think I'm going to say in. Because we saw last year him play with a hurt hamstring week after week after week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Chris Meaney]

Knee though.

[Mike Wright]

But again, maybe all these guys that are on this list that are really questionable when they're in. There's nobody in this list that I'm like, you know, if, if, if they're hurting and they play that I'm really excited about playing, you know, unless it's a concussion like Hopkins. If Hopkins is in, that's fine. He's. He's startable.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Chris Meaney]

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[Chris Meaney]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Chris Meaney]

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[Andy Holloway]

I agree. I agree. So let's get into the forecast.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy forecast.

[Andy Holloway]

All right everybody, we've got the Jaguars. The Jaguars.

[Chris Meaney]

The Jag Jaguars.

[Mike Wright]

I believe the J is silent. It's the Yaguars.

[Chris Meaney]

Yaguars.

[Andy Holloway]

Yaguier.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

We've got Jacksonville at New England. This game has a 48 point, just about 48 point over under in Vegas. Fantasy wise, what are we thinking about Mr. Blake Bortles.

[Chris Meaney]

Blake Bortles is interesting as the Patriots D they're giving up 260 yards in the air and they like many had proclaimed that they're going to go into their scorched earth mentality of the off season. People made they didn't like what happened with the flake gate. So they're going full throttle. The thing is their defense doesn't really, at least up until this point, cannot fully withstand beating teams by 50 points even though they can put those points on the board. But they the defense can't hold those off. So Bortles is an interesting guy. Last week he really opened it up. If you, if you watched the game and I heard a Jacksonville reporter mutual Mike Dempsey was talking about this was the first week that Bortles finally said screw it, I'm going to throw to Alan Robinson before he breaks. And we saw the huge benefits of that.

[Mike Wright]

Do you like Alan Robinson this week?

[Chris Meaney]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. New England Patriots have the fifth worst pass coverage right now according to Pro Football Focus. And I think Blake Bortles is a startable. I mean if you have to if you're in a deeper league or a two quarterback league. Blake.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, is he haven't done the full stream head section. He might be involved.

[Mike Wright]

All right, well, someone might be okay to play there. TJ Yeldin, I think love Yelden. You love him? I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

He's my start of the week at the running back position. They're giving up 147 on the ground to running backs and Yelden has no Denard Robinson competition this week. And I think he's just got great potential. 25 carries last week, three catches looks the part to me.

[Mike Wright]

I expect a lot of points in this game. Now who Mike are have you said every week is the One guy you need to shut down for New England Patriots.

[Chris Meaney]

Robert Gronk, Smashian.

[Mike Wright]

And now I don't believe any team can shut them down. But remember week one, they had a matchup against Carolina and there was one guy they needed to shut down and that was Greg Olson. And they shut him down. I mean, they just blanked him. It's a little easier because there's literally no one else on the field other than Greg Olson there. Whereas, you know, here they've got to worry about Edelman and other people.

[Andy Holloway]

But they have bigger.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, I'm not saying. I am not saying they're gonna shut Gronk down, but it's an interesting thing to believe that. Yeah. That there could be some help there.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you ready for this? Are you ready?

[Chris Meaney]

We're ready.

[Jason Moore]

Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going bold. The line in this game is 13 1/2 points. I don't expect the Jaguars to be able to go into Foxborough and win the game. This game's going to be closer than you think it is. Get ready. It's my almost upset of the week, people.

[Mike Wright]

Last week I called you bananas, crazy for picking Tampa Bay as your almost upset of the week. And it wasn't even an almost.

[Andy Holloway]

They got it done.

[Chris Meaney]

Fully upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, the Jags, Blake Bortles, he is my stream of the week. We'll talk about it later.

[Mike Wright]

In this matchup, you pretty much play everybody on both sides of the ball, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't play Amendola or Hearns.

[Mike Wright]

Well, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Of the main line guys. I think it is actually a very good Fantasy.

[Chris Meaney]

Dion Lewis. LeGarrett blunt situation. How are you? What are you feeling on this?

[Andy Holloway]

Proceed with Lewis until further notice. That's what I'm saying.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree. And I think based on what you were saying, like wanting to step on the gas and hurt the other guy, that means Brady's dropping back for 50 passes and that means Lewis is the guy.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about the Chargers going to Minnesota. I believe I heard that the Chargers have not won a game at Minnesota since 1993.

[Chris Meaney]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

That is a stat. I heard this morning on NFL Network. That is a lot of time between. How old was I in 93? I was like I was 9 years old. 10 years old. Yeah. So do they get it done?

[Chris Meaney]

I think they do. An interesting thing on Philip Rivers. We were looking this up. Philip Rivers is having one of the most accurate starts of his career. Pro Football Focus does this great thing where they Adjust for throwaways, drops. Basically. Things that really shouldn't count against a quarterback's accuracy rating. Philip Rivers is coming in at 91%. That is ridiculous. It's only two games, but that is ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

I think this game is going to be a very run heavy game in both directions, both defenses, they're the 4th and 5th worst run defenses. So I think both teams are going to try to smash each other, keep the score lower, which is usually better for a road team to be close in the game. So this could be the week they get it done. But it's good news for both Adrian Peterson and my start of the week in Melvin Gordon.

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you have one in the game then, Jason?

[Mike Wright]

What's that?

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you think will win this? Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

I do think the Chargers will win.

[Andy Holloway]

I must be the only one that thinks Minnesota is going to take care of business.

[Chris Meaney]

They could. I just. I like the Chargers right now in a fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Either team could win. Mike.

[Chris Meaney]

Is that what I said?

[Andy Holloway]

No, you said they could win.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah. Oh, I was saying the Vikings could win.

[Mike Wright]

This is definitely a game that can.

[Chris Meaney]

Go either way, but I'm picking the Chargers if you're asking me. Kyle Rudolph is running for tight ends the fifth highest yards run per target, which is. Sounds like a complicated thing, but that's what you want out of a tight end. A guy who, if you're just taking a guy off the wire or you like you're throwing. You're throwing a coin in a well and you're wishing for tight end production. That's. That's a good step to look at.

[Andy Holloway]

That's my starter wishing for the red zone Ranger.

[Guest Speaker]

I'm dreaming.

[Mike Wright]

I think Kyle Rudolph is such a great play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we all like him this week. All right, let's go ahead. Obviously, you're starting Gordon. You're starting ap. Are you starting Woodhead with confidence?

[Chris Meaney]

I am.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Eagles going into New York.

[Chris Meaney]

And Stevie. I'm starting Stevie Johnson with full confidence and I have zero confidence in the Minnesota wide receivers at this moment. They have been highly disappointed.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you said something yesterday about, about Bridgewater's wide receivers and the thing that came into my mind was, does he have wide receivers?

[Chris Meaney]

He does.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The Eagles are going into New York and trying to avoid an O and three start facing a Jets defense. That has been good luck. Very, very good. Especially in the turnover game. And I would expect that to continue. If you're thinking about starting Bradford. I am not starting Bradford this week. I am not starting Fitzpatrick this Week. I'm benching both because I think Philly has an underrated defense.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not really starting Murray if I've got a better option. I believe he's hurt and he's playing against a great run D. The jets haven't given up anything.

[Chris Meaney]

Hold on. That warrants a start. Sit. Consideration, discussion.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Chris Meaney]

For DeMarco Murray. I'm pulling up the rankings.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fine. I like Ertz as pretty much the.

[Mike Wright]

You and I have a disagreement.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

We've got a water bet this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Whether or not I said Ertz will be in top.

[Chris Meaney]

Okay. Danny Woodhead. We just talked about Woodhead or DeMarco Murray.

[Mike Wright]

I would start Woodhead.

[Chris Meaney]

Chris Johnson. Oh, sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Murray.

[Chris Meaney]

Chris Johnson or DeMarco Murray.

[Mike Wright]

I would go Cardinals playing the Niners. I'd probably go Murray.

[Andy Holloway]

To be honest, I'm probably going to say Murray to all these. Okay. If he's in the game. If he's in the game. I'm still treating him like I would Lacey on Monday night where I'm playing Lacey. If he's playing. I don't. I don't take the approach of that. These NFL teams are going to. I mean, it happens. But a lot of times if you're going to put a guy out there, it's not.

[Chris Meaney]

It's not just that.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Chris Meaney]

It's the combination of him having 11 yards, total yards on the year.

[Andy Holloway]

I understand.

[Chris Meaney]

And now he has a hand.

[Andy Holloway]

But from a fantasy perspective, even though he's put up such rigid, ridiculous on the ground numbers, he's actually been okay.

[Chris Meaney]

Because he's got two touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct. But that's why I'm starting.

[Mike Wright]

The reason I'm not starting him is not the injury. It's the injury combined with the matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's what he just said.

[Mike Wright]

No, he said it's the injury combined with his past performance on the year. But he's had good matchups to run against. Well, I guess Dallas wasn't that great, but the Jets D is great. And same with Eddie Lacy going against Kansas City. Those matchups are just. If they were totally healthy, I would have them ranked a little bit lower in the rankings. Now they're coming in injured against them. That's my issue.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And for right now, they're both matchup proof for me. Ivory, do you start him if he's playing? Yes, you do. Okay. The Eagles could be without their top two linebackers, by the way.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So that would help Mr. Ivory or Bilal Powell or whoever else. I think Stacy will be very heavily.

[Chris Meaney]

Involved if Ivory's out. I really like Bilal Powell.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like. I like pal over Stacy, but Stacy will get carries.

[Mike Wright]

Did you know that his mom has it going on Stacy's. Yeah, yeah, Stacy's mom has mom got it going. All right, go on.

[Andy Holloway]

Steelers at the Rams. Okay, we're starting Big Ben. Are we starting Nick Foles?

[Mike Wright]

Here's.

[Chris Meaney]

Here's an interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I said top 12.

[Mike Wright]

I have him ranked 13th.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

So no, I guess is my answer. But for me to rank Nick Foles 13th is pretty crazy because we don't like Nick Foles.

[Chris Meaney]

An interesting stat that I cannot take credit for this. This was from our friends at Living the Stream, and they were talking about Nick Foles. And since the Steelers have changed their offense, which was week seven for Martevis Bryant last year, there's a, there's a top 10 quarterback against them. It just, it doesn't matter who it is. They produce high level numbers and not just bottom 10 like guys at the very top one.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty crazy stuff.

[Chris Meaney]

Three, it's. I don't want to break it all down right now, but essentially Nick Foles is not a bad play. He's not a bad contrarian TFS play.

[Mike Wright]

It's.

[Chris Meaney]

You're going to. You're going to want to vomit all over yourself. And that's starting him.

[Mike Wright]

That's in the Lewis, right?

[Chris Meaney]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, he's going to put up close to 300 yards against Pittsburgh.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the funny thing. I don't know if we've had a situation where the number one running back in fantasy football is probably bench worthy today. And speaking of which.

[Guest Speaker]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

When I said number one running back, I was not referring to Le'Veon Bell.

[Chris Meaney]

I do. I know.

[Andy Holloway]

I was referring to D'Angelo Williams, which, my goodness, if D. Well, is the number one back, love Bell is going to do some work.

[Chris Meaney]

What's. What's higher than number one zero? Is he transcendent into the negative numbers?

[Andy Holloway]

The suspended Le'Veon Bell returns and I think he's going to have a huge game. The Rams were absolutely destroyed on the ground by Washington last week, and Le'Veon Bell is pretty good.

[Mike Wright]

And the great thing about Le'Veon Bell is it doesn't matter if he's facing a good run d or not because he catches so many balls and he's involved in the passing game. So he's getting his yards and the score is going to be high there. He's going to get his touchdowns up.

[Jason Moore]

Steaming hot fantasy tab.

[Andy Holloway]

You ready for this one?

[Mike Wright]

Give it to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Heath Miller has been productive so far. Le'Veon Bell comes back this week. Martavis Bryant's coming back in a couple of weeks. I think if you can get value for Heath Miller to a tight end needy team, now's the time to do it.

[Chris Meaney]

I completely agree. But until then, if you have him, you play him, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Chris Meaney]

If I. I'm starting Heath Miller, man. Are you starting Darius Hayward Bay?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no chance. No chance. Unless if you say you're starting him. I'm forcing you to put Travis Benjamin into every lineup that you have.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's the same. You're going.

[Andy Holloway]

I can, I can, I can hack your account.

[Mike Wright]

We know your passwords, Mike.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, well the problem with that, that comparison is Travis Benjamin's success was with Johnny Football, not with Josh McCown.

[Andy Holloway]

It's one game.

[Chris Meaney]

It's two games.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not two games. He was okay the first game.

[Chris Meaney]

No, but no, his entire production was one play, both games. Both from Johnny Football being outside the pocket.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not talking about Benjamin, I was talking about Hayward Bay.

[Chris Meaney]

Oh, the whole thing about it's one.

[Andy Holloway]

Game was Hayward Bay. No, I do not start Hayward Bay. I would rather start my grandmother's.

[Chris Meaney]

In week one, Hayward Bay should have also had a touchdown, but he was.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, sitting out of bounds.

[Chris Meaney]

He was not a good wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'm just saying you guys can start him.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not starting him.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you're starting.

[Mike Wright]

Don't you put that email on me.

[Chris Meaney]

No, you put that evil on me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yesterday you said everything you said. He says you sit on the other side of the desk so you have to hold hands. All right, Anything else about this game we need to know. The Steelers defense is obviously very porous and poor and any word like that.

[Chris Meaney]

So which, which Rams receivers are you starting? You starting Cook from the tight end?

[Andy Holloway]

I think Cook is start worthy right now because of his consistent target and catch numbers.

[Chris Meaney]

If you need or if Quick is back this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm not starting Quick on the first day back after two healthy scratches.

[Mike Wright]

I'll tell you, I'm starting Trey Mason.

[Chris Meaney]

I love a healthy scratch.

[Mike Wright]

Are you, are you have an itch?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason just realized that you said yeah. Took him an extra couple seconds.

[Mike Wright]

Took me a minute.

[Andy Holloway]

He's like, I like scratching too.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I was thinking about Tre Mason and I wanted to know your guys opinions because the matchup is good. They're still going to run the ball and I don't expect Gurley to.

[Andy Holloway]

I am not starting Trey Mason.

[Mike Wright]

You're not?

[Andy Holloway]

Nope.

[Chris Meaney]

I would. He's in flex consideration for me.

[Andy Holloway]

That was what I was going to ask about. Gurley. Would you flex, girl?

[Guest Speaker]

No.

[Chris Meaney]

No way. Would I. I'm not doing it.

[Andy Holloway]

Get ready.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah. Get ready to. I would not.

[Andy Holloway]

I wouldn't flex girly this week unless I had to. All right, the 49ers heading into the hometown Arizona Cardinals. Well, hometown for me. Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet.

[Chris Meaney]

That's our battle cry.

[Andy Holloway]

We're all very high on the number two quarterback right now.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Harson Palmer. You're darn right aged. The aged vet, 35 years old, slinging the rock around. Been very, very good with Bruce Arians. That's the plain and simple truth. I think it's time for people to buy into him and to buy into starting him pretty much every week, at least through the buy.

[Chris Meaney]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

I start him over Kaepernick in this game. Do you guys agree with that?

[Chris Meaney]

Completely agree. Although the Kaepernick is for a streamer or low trying to grab a guy off the wire, Kaepernick has had some success, especially running the ball. The Cardinals have struggled against quarterbacks who run.

[Andy Holloway]

I have been very resistant to starting David Johnson in the past couple weeks, especially like last week, but I'm actually endorsing him. In a lot of questions that people are sending me. They give me the option of David Johnson versus some of these. Like, I would start David Johnson over Danny Woodhead this week.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Chris Meaney]

That's insane.

[Mike Wright]

I would not. However, I do agree with.

[Andy Holloway]

I have them back to back, but I would start David Johnson ahead of him.

[Mike Wright]

I agree with your principle. I have David Johnson starting in one of my main leagues right now, so.

[Chris Meaney]

I think that's crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. If you think it's crazy, you don't get to sing this song for a week.

[Chris Meaney]

No, I will gladly make.

[Andy Holloway]

You can do that.

[Mike Wright]

I'm allowed still. You got him? I've got.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to make a water bet?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

About whether Woodhead or David Johnson has more fantasy points.

[Chris Meaney]

Yes. Oh.

[Jason Moore]

Water bet.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the reasons I hit that button is because I really am going to be excited to win the bet and to watch the hometown guy, David Johnson, run into the end zone.

[Chris Meaney]

Trust me, I hope you're right. And this is. This is what you have going for you. When David Johnson touches the ball, he scores a touchdown. So there is. He has that going for him.

[Mike Wright]

That's pretty nice. So real quick, let's talk.

[Andy Holloway]

We like that in players though, right?

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk the wide receivers because there's still the confusion of is it fits, Is it John Brown, you know, not confusing for me.

[Chris Meaney]

Okay, let me just.

[Mike Wright]

Let me just say something real quick. And this is based on a lot of statistical research. In my dreams, we didn't say this last week. You know, I had The Dream Week 1 about Ryan Matthews scoring score. We didn't say this on air, but we actually said it a lot. Last week. I had started. John Brown was my start of the week last week. And he was all right. He caught all five of the targets that came his way. But clearly Larry Fitzgerald was the guy there against the Bears. And before that I had a dream where after I had made that pick that, oh, Carson Palmer's value is high, but Brown's the wrong guy. And I had told Andy, and Andy actually put Fitz into some of his lineups. Based on that. Is that true or is that false?

[Andy Holloway]

I may have started him in a lineup. Yes, based on the fact that you had this dream. And I thought it would be very funny to see how it panned out.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I have breaking news because you.

[Andy Holloway]

Had a dream last night.

[Mike Wright]

I had a dream.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on.

[Mike Wright]

And the dream was I was one week late on John Brown, so. John Brown. I'm so good.

[Chris Meaney]

What?

[Mike Wright]

I know, I know this is ridiculous and I apologize to every Foot Clan listener because we are not a show that likes to go on. On nonsense.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't like to go off nonsense.

[Mike Wright]

We don't. We really do a lot of film work. We do a lot of statistical work.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're a fantasy player that wants to put stock into dreams, that's all I'm saying. John Brown's the start this week.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly.

[Chris Meaney]

I make my fantasy picks.

[Andy Holloway]

That means I need to strengthen my trade offer for him that I have in one of his.

[Chris Meaney]

I make my fantasy picks like the band Boston. I need more than a feeling.

[Mike Wright]

There you go. I apologize for.

[Andy Holloway]

So John Brown's a good start though, isn't he? Apparently, no. Outside of the dream.

[Chris Meaney]

Yes, outside of the dream. He's. He's still a good week to week start.

[Andy Holloway]

How could you fade on him so quickly?

[Chris Meaney]

No, no, I'm not fading on him. It's just. Who is the guy? It's Fitzgerald.

[Mike Wright]

Both of those guys are startable.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the thing.

[Mike Wright]

Almost any. Any lineup from a pure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, you're right. Okay, so the, you know, John Brand had a touchdown week one. He didn't score last week. And Fitz is more likely to score. So otherwise we're starting Hyde. Are we starting Chris Johnson?

[Chris Meaney]

If you have to.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. What about Tori Smith? Ankwan Bolden maybe.

[Mike Wright]

I would Bolden maybe because he always does well when he comes back.

[Chris Meaney]

The Cardinals. Yeah. And the Cardinals are giving up a lot of yards in the air right now.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Bills at the Dolphins. Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Tannehill. Tannehill had a very big week last week. Taylor did as well, bringing the Bills back and almost pulling off a kind of miracle comeback against the Patriots. We have Shady McCoy. If you are a Carlos Williams owner, I've been recommending trading him to the shady owner to the shady owner to somebody else. Because other people will take him too. Because of two weeks and two scores.

[Chris Meaney]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Just the numbers depending on your league. What are your thoughts here? Are we benching Lamar Miller?

[Chris Meaney]

I am benching Lamar.

[Andy Holloway]

I am as well.

[Chris Meaney]

I'm benching him unfortunately. As far as wide receivers, Jarvis Landry, man, he catching 80% of his targets. He is just a machine right now. I also like Rashad Matthews is one of those low end guys. I mean that that just turns into a group a cluster of low end wide receivers. But he's one that he's getting it done.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. I would rather have Rashad Matthews in my lineup than Travis Benjamin.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, I can agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Would. If you are a Devonte Parker owner, are you just keeping them on your bench or do you have to trade him in for somebody else?

[Chris Meaney]

If you have the space to hold.

[Andy Holloway]

Him it you think he's going to pan out? I guess is the question.

[Chris Meaney]

It's. I do by the end of the season, but I don't know when it's going to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

The Bills defense is basically shutting the run down for every single team they play. But they have given up a lot of yards per game through the air. But it's Brady.

[Chris Meaney]

It's skewed.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Brady skewed.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Chris Meaney]

And Tannehill might be without his starting left tackle, Brandon Albert, which would be a large concern.

[Andy Holloway]

Not very high on offensive players.

[Mike Wright]

I've got Tannehill in a lot of leagues and I've sat him everywhere.

[Andy Holloway]

But Jordan is in Miami.

[Chris Meaney]

However, a Jordan Cameron, he has the highest amount of targets over 20 yards for a tight end. More than Gronk in the air. 50% of his targets are over 20 yards in the air. So I like Jordan Cameron a lot if he plays.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about the Bears going to Seattle in what should be a Barn burner. Yeah. I told Mike this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The Bears are going to go into something to burn, and Seattle is going to burn it down around them. It's going to be an absolute barn burner.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't. You know, if I'm Jay Cutler, I'm probably like, if I'm feeling kind of ready to come back, I'm probably just going, I need another week. I really need another week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Cam. Oh, Cam. Chancellor's back. My hammy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, the. This is not gonna be pretty. I mean, the line is 15. I don't know what the. What the Vegas over under is on this game, but all of those points in the over under belong to Seattle in my mind.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And, you know, they're favored by 15, and the over under is 15 points.

[Andy Holloway]

I think. I think the Bears are only sending Robbie Gould over. I think he's the only one on the plane.

[Chris Meaney]

So who. What are you predicting for the Seahawks?

[Andy Holloway]

Because I'm predicting just a massacre.

[Chris Meaney]

Who's.

[Mike Wright]

But who's the.

[Chris Meaney]

Who are the points going to? Because to me, I think Marshawn lynch is going to just run all day. He's at home. And this is. Marshawn lynch is very successful. Almost all of his touchdowns come at home.

[Andy Holloway]

I think lynch has a great game. I think Jimmy Graham has a game. Great game. That's. We talked about him. He's my tight end start of the week. I think you can flip a coin with the wide receiver production, but it's probably Baldwin. Baldwin's catching a high percentage of catches from the slot. He's kind of the target. So if I had to start a Seattle wide receiver, it's Baldwin.

[Mike Wright]

So for the Bears, they've got to throw the ball. Somebody has to catch it. Is Eddie Royal worth throwing in Bennett?

[Andy Holloway]

Bennett's the only guy I would start from that office.

[Chris Meaney]

And for.

[Andy Holloway]

You're still starting Forte. Yeah. All right. Broncos at the Lions. I am very high in Amir Abdullah this week. I am the only one of.

[Chris Meaney]

Freaking me out, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Of this three, which is crazy because. Not crazy because you just. Because you like him. You have to like him every week. But I have not been on that train. I'm very high up.

[Chris Meaney]

It's crazy because you're the caboose on the Abdullah Express. You are the new one here.

[Andy Holloway]

Why?

[Chris Meaney]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Because we got the posters in.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. He had a terrible week. And my Joy bowl posters are coming soon. They just. They take really, really long. You didn't even let me make my own joke.

[Mike Wright]

Such low hanging.

[Andy Holloway]

I Know. All right. So the reason is, is 100% because of the passing game. I believe he is going to catch a lot of screen passes in this game. The pass rush for Denver is ridiculously strong. They are a very tremendous defense. I think that Abdullah's speed and the use in the passing game is completely why I have him as high as they do this week. So if you're in a half point PPR or a full point PPR league, that's where his value exists for me. In a standard league, it's still there because I think he's going to catch a lot of passes but, but primarily in those leagues. So from Peyton Stafford, are you starting those guys?

[Chris Meaney]

Peyton Manning, Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Stafford, no.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Stafford is recovering from an injury and this is a very, very bad matchup because I believe you guys said before the game Broncos were number one right now.

[Mike Wright]

They're the number one rated defense on Pro Football Focus right now. And, and you see, because they're, they're dominant right now, which is why I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Not really loving a lot of turnover.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not loving the Abdullah Express this week. We disagree on that for the exact same reasons. Kind of the same exact.

[Andy Holloway]

I've never got to play it for my own self. I've always done it when I thought Mike was crazy, but now I'm crazy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah. I just. The matchup, the defense is great. They're not giving up a lot and so I don't see them giving up a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

To tell you who I would start from Detroit. Eric Ebron.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because the corners for Denver are great. Yes. So if there's a guy that's going to pass catch, it's going to be a guy that's been heavily targeted. Good targets for Ebron touchdown last week.

[Mike Wright]

Love that logic. It is the exact same logic I have for Kyle Rudolph with the, with the corners in San Diego and the tight end has to be used.

[Chris Meaney]

C.J. anderson, owners. Here's. Here's a nugget for you. Detroit is giving up seven more points to running backs than the average fantasy points. So this if it's going to happen. I think this is the week CJ Anderson has proclaimed self proclaimed that the toll injury is gone. But he also said that the toe injury was not affecting his play. Yeah, but I'm still buying in as C.J. anderson is the workhorse.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And one last question. Would you drop Joy Bell?

[Chris Meaney]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Or move him into your BFF slot?

[Mike Wright]

I would never ever move Joy into my.

[Chris Meaney]

Does BFF count against your active roster?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Chris Meaney]

Oh, then I don't mind being BFF with Joy Bell.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Chiefs at Packers Monday Night Football game. We're not worried about starting Aaron Rodgers. We're rolling him out there. We're rolling Jamal Charles out there. We're starting Cobb. We're starting Macklin Adams or Jones? Devonte Adams or James Jones? Jones had one catch last week, but it was a touchdown. He tends to do that.

[Mike Wright]

I. Going forward, Adams. But he's been hurt. He's been out of practice. And so I think James Jones might get used more. I would. I don't really love starting either guy, but if I had to start one, I think I'm going with James Jones this week.

[Chris Meaney]

I still got to go with the targets, and the targets are Devonte Adams. Yeah, but that's just. Ah, you, James Jones. Get out of my life.

[Andy Holloway]

We do have breaking news that Tevin Coleman is actually out for week three. So we assumed it, but way to hit the button. As is Alshon. Jeffrey, he's officially out.

[Chris Meaney]

Can you hit the button?

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's not breaking. Every time I talk about five or six guys, we'll be here all day. I'm controlling the board. If it's big time breaking news, then I'll hit the button. Jay Cutler is also out, so.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah. Because he heard Cam Chancellor was back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And he heard Alshon was out. He's like, I'm just going to take this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So, okay, what are your thoughts on.

[Chris Meaney]

Richard Rogers this week?

[Andy Holloway]

My thoughts on Richard Rogers is that I would not start him in any league.

[Chris Meaney]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I just don't like the. I think his production came.

[Mike Wright]

You have to get a touchdown for Richard Rogers to be valuable. I like going with a guy like. Like an Ebron who. He might not get a touchdown, but he's going to get five or six passes for, you know, 50 yards or something, and then hopefully get a touchdown for Richard Rodgers. You get a touchdown or bust, or you get it like, you know, one for 10.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

So on the chief side of the ball, I think that you have a lot of weapons that can be used here. Because this matchup is the highest point spread in Vegas, the defenses are going to have to play catch up to Aaron Rodgers. And so there's going to be a lot of points put up, I think, in both directions. I like. I like most of the players.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm happy with Macklin. I'm fine starting him. If you want to stream Alex Smith, we'll find out about that in a minute, won't we?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, we will.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, but first we're gonna take a minute and yet again we're gonna talk to Chris Meaney of the Fantasy Sports Network and get some perspective on the daily fantasy scene. If you're playing Fanduel, make sure you use the promo code ballers and you get some extra cash, right?

[Chris Meaney]

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[Andy Holloway]

Dollars. You need some extra dollars? I just mixed it up. All right, here we go.

[Jason Moore]

The Daily Dose.

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy footballers are excited to welcome in our friend Chris Meaney of the Fantasy Sports Network, joining us yet again today for the Daily Dose segment. Chris, how was your week two in dfs?

[Guest Speaker]

Week two is actually okay. In dfs, I came second in the fantasy pro's accuracy. I really needed Chris Ivory to run the ball in the fourth, but they decided to give it to Powell. So that was a little disappointing. But DFS was okay. Survivor pools. I'm out of every single one of them. Ready to move on to week three.

[Andy Holloway]

So some of the big names last week that performed for people were obviously, Larry Fitzgerald had a monster week on a lot of teams. Allen Robinson had a big week. Travis Benjamin in Cleveland. Any of those guys you're targeting this week to continue at good values?

[Guest Speaker]

Not really. I just don't think that Benjamin is going to be consistent. I think when you're doing tournaments, you do need to have one of those guys that you hope will just have a huge monster game that is under the radar. But I don't think Benjamin is going to be a consistent guy. I mean, that guy ran nine passing routes and that's just really not all that great. And he only had like a team high three catches, so he's got the big playability, but he's also got that bust too. So if you're doing a cash game, I wouldn't suggest Benjamin, but maybe, I mean, you can put him in in a gpp, a big tournament play, but I just wouldn't consent. The consistency is just not going to be there from him. So I do like Fitzgerald, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry.

[Guest Speaker]

I do like Larry Fitzgerald. I think that we've seen it. Even last year, he has a connection with Palmer already just shy of 200 yards. He obviously had the big day with three TDs, but 14 catches. I do like Larry Fitz and his price is fairly cheap as well this week.

[Chris Meaney]

So let's talk big time, guys. You know, you got your Rodgers, your Big Ben, guys that cost a lot of cash. Who is worth the money this week?

[Guest Speaker]

I really do think Tom Brady's worth the money this week. I think they're going to put Up a lot of points on Jacksonville, I would stay away. I'm kind of fading. Deion Lewis, everybody loves him. I like the price at 6, 7, but Jacksonville's actually been fairly good against the run. Even only in two games they are allowing their running backs only 2.9 yards per carry. And Lamar Miller ran against them, Stewart ran against them. So those are some decent backs that people were on. And I think this could be a blunt week. I mean, every, every time we think we have the Patriots backfield figured out, Belichick just throws us, throws a loop for us and then we're on our way. So I think Tom Brady 87 against Jacksonville, I think they're going to throw the ball there a lot. And we saw even last year or last week against Buffalo, they were up and they were still throwing the ball a ton. So Brady at 8 7, I think it's worth a shot. Even Edelman, 31 targets, leads the league by like five or six targets. So I like Edelman at 7 7, even Gronk, I think you can get all three with the three of them and be happy about it. Then you're going to have to obviously find some value. Marshawn lynch is a guy that I'm going to be playing at 8 7, certainly against Chicago. I think, I think Seattle is going to take their frustration out on Claassen and Chicago Bears this weekend. Russell Wilson at 84 I like.

[Mike Wright]

So, so you mentioned a lot of the same guys on the same team. Do you like to pair a quarterback with a pass catcher so that you know, if, if those guys come through, they, they come through big or do you like to split them up and hedge your bets?

[Guest Speaker]

Yeah, that's a great question, guys. I mean, obviously I talked about Brady and Julian Edelman. I'd like to have that paired up. It's funny that you mentioned that because the last two Millionaire winners on fanduel had a running back paired up with a quarterback and I think that's a contrarian stack. A lot of people are sometimes overthinking things. Week one was Brady and Lewis and then week two was Big Ben and Williams. And I was thinking to myself last week when I thought the Saints are going to roll over Tampa Bay, I thought maybe I'll go Breeze and I like Cooks, but maybe I'll go Ingram. Nah, that's not a smart thing to do. But it actually may not be a bad idea to have a running back in the backfield who can catch maybe a Danny Woodhead and you go Phillip Rivers or whatnot but for the most part, for me, I really just do feel more comfortable in having, you know, Brady and an Edelman or Brown and a Big Ben.

[Chris Meaney]

So let's talk some value guys. These are, we're going to scrape the barrel a little bit. Some lower end type players that you gotta, you gotta fill up the roster because you spent big on Antonio Brown. Who do you like this week for.

[Guest Speaker]

Value plays for quarterbacks? It's kind of funny to say, but maybe Mallet. Maybe Mallet at 63 against Tampa Bay is fairly cheap. I love Cam Newton's price at 79 against the Saints. He's just a threat to get in the end zone himself, which is six points. That's a bonus, I think seven, nine. I mean this guy's not even in the top 10 in pricing. Tyrod Taylor has been fantastic. It's 7,000. I mentioned Dion Lewis is priced at six. Seven is really nice. But Devonte Freeman at six, five now he's the back. I'm looking at volume. I don't think he's going to be spectacular, but there's just nobody else there in that backfield. So at 6 5, Devonte Freeman is nice even. The other side of that game is Randall at 65 as well. I still think Moncrief is undervalued at $6,000 against Tennessee. I really think if you watch that game, luck, you know, he wasn't spectacular, but he found a report with Moncrief and I think you're going to see that, continue to see that throughout the course of the season. Jeremy Macklin at 65 against Green Bay, especially if they're down in the game, they're going to throw the ball. I like Rashad Matthews at 5 7. I think that he's, you know, he's got 10 targets, which is the second most in that Dolphins team. He's got 13 of, you know, he's got 13 catches, which is nice. He's actually got 10 catches and 13 targets. Excuse me, guys. That's, that's okay. I like that price as well. And then even going down the list, maybe guys won't play Kenny Britt at 5 4. I think the secondary in Pittsburgh is not all that great. And I think Foles, he could take a shot downfield and I think Kenny Britt is worth a shot at 5,400.

[Chris Meaney]

Is it. Do you have just a couple tight ends who like. Are you. Do you like Ebron this week or guys like that?

[Guest Speaker]

I do like Ebron. I like Whitten if he's going to play and it looks like he is going to play. Now you're going to have to spend $6,000 on this guy. But again, we're looking at some shoddy quarterback play this week. So Brendan Weeden could look at Wheaton a lot. Here's a play that I think, I don't think will work in cash games, but how about Gary Burnage?

[Chris Meaney]

Oh my.

[Guest Speaker]

Yes. Oh my.

[Andy Holloway]

It's all.

[Guest Speaker]

I'm only going this way because Oakland allowed big plays to Iford and Gilmour. And I think it's just if you're going to play in a tournament, you're not going to play in a head to head a 50, 50 a cash game where you're just looking at this long shot. Why not go Gary Bernich and just see, I mean that secondary, the linebackers in Oakland, they're just not very good. So there's a shot there. I know it's a long one. Don't get at me if it doesn't work out. But it could. I mean it could work out.

[Chris Meaney]

All right, so big shout out and thanks again to Chris Meaney from the Fantasy Sports Network hosts a fanduel show and we will talk to you next week, my friend. Have a good one.

[Guest Speaker]

All right, good luck. Week three, guys. Thanks for having me.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, thanks again to Chris Meaney for joining us on the show again today. We've got one more segment. It's one of my favorites, so let's get into it.

[Jason Moore]

Full stream ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're giving you some streaming options. Last week we gave you Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now they all had Kaepernick actually finished as the fourth QB4. QB4. So he was a good stream last week and Dalton and Fitzpatrick didn't do too bad themselves. So this week I'm going to turn it over to Jason first and we're going to get his stream of the week at the quarterback position. Who would you stream if you're looking for somebody to produce this week?

[Mike Wright]

My stream of the week is going to be Alex Smith. We just talked about him. It's the highest point spread in Vegas, so there's going to be points put up there. Historically, in Green Bay, he has performed well. He has averaged over 200 yards a game and two touchdowns a game with like 0.25 interceptions. So I believe that when you've got Jeremy Macklin who is waiting for a breakout game, you've got Travis Kelsey who is the perfect weapon against Green Bay and Jamal Charles, he's going to get two touchdowns and over 200 yards. That's what I'm predicting. And generally speaking, that's good enough to be a quarterback. One last week pretty much every quarterback on the planet had seven touchdowns and eight.

[Andy Holloway]

I threw for 1842 last week. Just so you know, we're trying to identify some guys that have low ownership percentages at the quarterback position that you can sign off of waivers and throw into your lineup if you're streaming that position. So Mike, who is your stream of the week?

[Chris Meaney]

I'm going with Tyrod Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, and by the way, Alex Smith had he has a 26% ownership percentage right now.

[Chris Meaney]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry.

[Chris Meaney]

Tyrod Taylor is owned in 41% of ESPN League's own. This is what he is averaging. This was his baseline. 200 yards in the air, 40 yards on the ground and a touchdown. So the. I'd rather have two touchdowns as my baseline, but the 40 yards as your floor makes up for it. And he's going against Miami. He's on the road. So it that's a little. That's not my favorite, but I just like the Bills so much and Miami was just torched by a one Blake Bortles. So I have great faith in Tyrod Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to throw in a little extra stat for you. We talked about Philip Rivers and the adjusted accuracy percentage. I believe Tyrod Taylor is number four in the league right now in adjusted accuracy. So he has been playing very well. Just from a quarterback perspective. I think he has the longest time in the pocket right now, which means he's committing to that despite getting the rushing yards. It's looked very good, very good for Tyrod Taylor. So mine is a guy that is only owned in 7.4% of leagues and his name is Blake Bortles and we talked about it earlier and I'm starting him this week. He was 273 and two last week. Listen, Butler, Brown and Chung, the DBs for New England are all poorly rated on Pro Football Focus. Jason talked about it earlier. The passing D for New England has not been good. And so basically I'm taking the same standard that Jason did with Alex Smith. I believe you're shooting for the 202 number to get kind of adequate to good production from your quarterback in this situation. I think Bortles is a guy that you can throw in there. I would start him over Joe Flacco this week. I would start him over a lot of other players that you might not expect because he. I think he has A potential, especially in a shootout, to just be throwing the ball all game long.

[Mike Wright]

I really like that pick. I think he's going to get 275 and two with a. With a.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be basically like last week.

[Chris Meaney]

And so Blake Bortles is a surprisingly athletic guy. I mean, he can run.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Chris Meaney]

He's. He's running for at least 25 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

In fact, Bill Belichick said that him and Tyra Taylor are not that dissimilar in his preparation for them because they played Taylor last week and Blake Bortles is who they're facing this week. So very interesting thing there. So let's go ahead and get into our mailbag section. We're going to answer some listener questions.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag, Mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get into the mailbag and go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click on the submit a question button. Send us your question. We put some on the show. You can also call us at 302-464-TFFB and send us a voicemail question. Josh in Mesa, Arizona. Neighbor, neighbor. I have Antonio Brown and was offered Le'Veon Bell. Should I do it?

[Chris Meaney]

Oh, that is an interesting question. So his other wide receivers are Deandre Hopkins and Keenan Allen for running backs. He has C.J. anderson for set Dion Lewis Ellington and David Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

No, I don't.

[Chris Meaney]

I hold on to Brown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you don't have the wide receiver core to lose Brown.

[Chris Meaney]

Olivia on Bell's the man, but Antonio Brown is the man.

[Andy Holloway]

We're going to go as far from Mesa, Arizona as we can. Tom in Hong Kong.

[Mike Wright]

Connie.

[Chris Meaney]

No. What? Yeah, Bonjour.

[Andy Holloway]

We've been pulling out a few of the international write ins late.

[Chris Meaney]

I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, guys. Love the show. Has kept me sane while staying up until 6am to watch the Sunday night games because he's in Hong Kong since he's moved out to Hong Kong. So question regarding his flex position. He has Amir Abdullah, Dion Lewis, Brandon Cooks, Stevie Johnson and Mike Wallace. Who's the start there for you?

[Mike Wright]

He needs one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Dion Lewis for me.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I'm gonna go with Amir.

[Mike Wright]

Abdullah and I want that water bet. Oh, Dion Lewis versus Amir Abdullah.

[Jason Moore]

Waterbed.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, I'm all about backing up your rankings with the bat. And you can go see those Waterbed videos, by the way. They're on our YouTube channel and subscribe on YouTube.

[Mike Wright]

It means a lot to us.

[Chris Meaney]

And Tom, I hate to do this to you, but I go with Stevie Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

So now we have.

[Chris Meaney]

We have helped you. Not at all.

[Andy Holloway]

Not at All.

[Mike Wright]

So start Brandon.

[Andy Holloway]

He might have. Obviously if he's listening to the show, he has a favorite. That's probably me.

[Chris Meaney]

So he started Stevie Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go. Jimmy Mass.

[Chris Meaney]

Mass.

[Andy Holloway]

There's so many letters in Canfield, Ohio. Andrew Luck has been struggling the past two weeks while Palmer has been on fire. Right now, Luck is predicted to get more points. This is a great question. Okay, so Palmer, luck. This is tough.

[Chris Meaney]

It's extremely tough. Palmer at home is. He is in fuego at home. Yeah. But Palmer versus, you know, playing the Titans, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It was very similar to the question, I believe it was yesterday between Ben Roethlisberger and Palmer.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't you think this comes down to what you really need from your team this week where Luck has the higher ceiling.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, I can agree with that.

[Mike Wright]

I think Luck has the higher floor as well. I would go Lucky. I mean, it's just a matter of if the touchdowns get ran in by.

[Andy Holloway]

Arizona the last two weeks. If that's what makes this hard, is the last two weeks have said that's not true for Luck.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Chris Meaney]

If Andrew Luck craps his pants against the Titans, my goodness gracious, all hell will break loose.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Pagano could be Pagan.

[Mike Wright]

Pagano.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Shannon in Texas first. Y'all seriously crack me. She's really from Texas. Y'all really crack me up while I'm at work. So thank you. I am.

[Chris Meaney]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I am two zero because of your advice. My question is this. She has Kelsey and Eiford. Do I try to trade one of them for a better wide receiver or do I keep them both and play one as the flex? I do not believe IFRT is flex worthy and I don't really believe Kelsey's flex worthy.

[Mike Wright]

So I would absolutely trade one of these guys and I would trade either of them. I prefer to trade Ifert, but you've got to trade one and strengthen your team. But make sure whenever you do trades like this and say, okay, I want to unload this guy. You shop around. You don't just talk with one guy and see what you can get. You talk to everybody and see what the best deal is for ifr.

[Chris Meaney]

Her wide receivers currently are Antonio Brown, Allen Robinson, Crabtree and Cook. So she's not desperate. She's not desperate or struggling. So do not take a. Do not make a move unless somebody's blowing you away with an offer.

[Andy Holloway]

Alright, that's it for today's show. But listen, just because it's Friday and we don't have a show coming out on Saturday and Sunday doesn't mean we're not here. You can visit us on the website thefantasyfootballers.com and you can get involved with us on jointhefoot.com and be asking questions through the weekend on there. So check it out. JoinTheFoot.com get involved with the show. We're very thankful for everybody that has been supporting this show. This show is made to be a community show, to be a show about the listeners, not about us. It's about the NFL. It's about getting you equipped to win your league and been very excited. It's always great to hear when a listener has had a great start to the season or they make a trade or a move that's just incredibly in their favor because of something they heard on the show or something that they talked to somebody on. Join the foot with. And so we're very thankful for that. We're looking forward to the games this weekend and we'll be back here on Monday. Sound good, guys?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You have any other parting thoughts? Let's go watch some Cardinal Cardinals go to three and.

[Chris Meaney]

Oh, I think the Cardinals are going to be three.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, baby. David Johnson.

[Chris Meaney]

Good.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter heffballers.