Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Allen Robinson Interview, Fantasy News, Mailbag

Summary

Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Allen Robinson Interview, Fantasy News, Mailbag

Release Date: May 10, 2016

The Fantasy Footballers Podcast delivers another insightful episode featuring a mix of fantasy news, strategic discussions, and an exclusive interview with Jacksonville Jaguars' standout wide receiver, Allen Robinson. Hosted by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, this episode provides valuable analysis and advice for fantasy football enthusiasts aiming to dominate their leagues.

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Fantasy News and Analysis

The hosts kick off the episode by diving into the latest fantasy football updates, addressing key player movements and team dynamics that could influence fantasy outcomes.

Sam Bradford's Return to the Eagles

• Breaking News: Sam Bradford is-back with the Philadelphia Eagles, securing a $20 million guaranteed contract.
  • Jason Moore [06:32]: “Sam Bradford has decided to report, apparently $20 million is enough reasons to play football for a living.”
• Fantasy Implications: While Bradford's return adds depth to the Eagles' quarterback position, concerns linger about whether he will receive sufficient playing time over Carson Wentz.
  • Andy Holloway [08:44]: “I believe Sam Bradford has a pretty good year. Plays most if not all of the year because the division is... the Eagles are in it as much as any other team in that division.”

Seahawks Drafting CJ Pro Size

• Update: The Seattle Seahawks select CJ Prosise in the third round, bolstering their wide receiver corps.
  • Jason Moore [09:39]: “They want to use players in unique ways and put them around Russell Wilson.”
• Fantasy Insight: Prosise is expected to contribute this season, offering additional depth and potential fantasy points.
  • Mike Wright [10:19]: “I really think Pro Size will have his fantasy impact this season.”

Matt Jones on the Move-Up List

• Discussion: Matt Jones from the Washington team is highlighted as a valuable asset poised to rise in draft rankings.
  • Andy Holloway [13:07]: “He's going to be one of those guys with 250 carries. So it's hard to... if you get the ball 250 times, you're scoring some fantasy points.”
• Draft Strategy: The hosts debate whether to prioritize Jones or select other running backs based on his projected workload and efficiency.

Colin Kaepernick and San Francisco's QB Situation

• Speculation: There's ongoing speculation about Colin Kaepernick’s future with the San Francisco 49ers, with rumors suggesting Blaine Gabbert may take over the starting role.
  • Mike Wright [17:15]: “The team is pulling for Blaine Gabbert to beat out Colin Kaepernick.”
• Fantasy Considerations: Kaepernick's uncertainty may impact his fantasy value, urging managers to tread carefully when considering him for their lineups.

Delanie Walker's Extension and Team Moves

• Contract News: Delanie Walker signs a two-year extension with the Tennessee Titans, solidifying his role on the offensive line.
  • Jason Moore [21:10]: “Delanie Walker signed a two-year extension to cement himself in Tennessee.”
• Other Moves: Danny Amendola remains with the Patriots after taking a pay cut, while Kevin Hogan continues to impress.

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Exclusive Interview: Allen Robinson

The highlight of the episode is an exclusive interview with Allen Robinson, one of the NFL's most promising wide receivers. Robinson shares insights into his remarkable improvement from a rookie season plagued by injuries to a breakout year that has fantasy managers buzzing.

Performance Enhancement and Team Synergy

• Breakout Year: Robinson discusses the factors contributing to his leap in performance, including stronger team support and strategic offensive schemes.
  • Allen Robinson [22:54]: “Got to give credit to my teammates first and foremost and our coaching staff for sure.”
• Offseason Focus: Emphasizing strength and speed, Robinson highlights his offseason training aimed at creating more opportunities on the field.
  • Allen Robinson [23:54]: “My main focus was getting stronger and faster... creating more exploits for my team.”

Fantasy Football Impact

• Recognition: While Robinson doesn't personally play fantasy, he acknowledges the connection and appreciation from fantasy fans.
  • Allen Robinson [24:54]: “I think it's pretty cool, especially being able to be recognized for you guys to have that common thing being fantasy.”

Team Outlook and Projections

• Playoff Aspirations: Robinson expresses confidence in the Jaguars' talent and their potential to make the playoffs.
  • Allen Robinson [31:34]: “I'd have to say yes, you know... our goal is to make the playoffs.”
• Stat Line Projections: When asked about his personal projections, Robinson remains modest, focusing on staying healthy and contributing consistently.
  • Allen Robinson [32:15]: “If I just go out there and I'm available, all 16 games and stay healthy, everything else is going to pan out.”

Personal Insights

• Tattoos and Meaning: Robinson shares the story behind his most meaningful tattoo, commemorating a significant catch against Michigan.
  • Allen Robinson [29:21]: “It was going to have to be my Michigan catch tattoo... that play in the game.”

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Mailbag: Listener Questions and Expert Advice

The hosts address various listener-submitted questions, offering strategic advice to enhance fantasy football performance.

Trade Approval Processes

• Question from Brian in Stillwater, OK:
  • Brian's Query: “What is the best system for trade approval?”
• Hosts' Response:
  • Andy Holloway [37:28]: “Do not vote no on a trade that you just don't like... make sure the trade isn't in collusion or unfairly one-sided.”
  • Jason Moore [38:34]: “If you've played fantasy long enough, you know the ball can bounce another direction.”

Auction Draft Strategies

• Question from Jeff in Columbus, GA:
  • Jeff's Query: “What is the maximum amount I should bid on a number one overall player in a $400 cap auction draft?”
• Hosts' Response:
  • Andy Holloway [40:41]: “Normally around $60 out of $200, double that for higher picks.”
  • Jason Moore [41:12]: “Lock in a couple of guaranteed studs and exploit value in later rounds.”

Rookie Players in Redraft Leagues

• Question from Josh in Minnesota:
  • Josh's Query: “How many rookies is too many to have on a redraft roster?”
• Hosts' Response:
  • Andy Holloway [46:08]: “Target your favorite or two, but prioritize best value in drafts rather than overloading on rookies.”
  • Jason Moore [47:40]: “Draft as late as possible to assess rookies' preseason performances.”

Handcuffing Strategy

• Question from Shane in Sudbury:
  • Shane's Query: “Should I hold onto TJ Yelden or trade him for Chris Ivory?”
• Hosts' Response:
  • Jason Moore [49:21]: “Hold onto Yelden and monitor Ivory’s market value.”
  • Andy Holloway [50:44]: “Prefer Yelden for his versatility and potential over Ivory’s injury-prone status.”

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Key Takeaways

• Stay Informed: Keeping up with the latest player news and team changes is crucial for making informed fantasy decisions.
• Strategic Drafting: Balancing guaranteed studs with value picks in auction drafts can optimize team performance.
• Trade Wisely: Establish clear trade approval processes to maintain league integrity and fairness.
• Monitor Rookies: Incorporate rookies cautiously in redraft leagues, emphasizing their preseason performance and potential impact.

Notable Quotes

• Jason Moore [06:32]: “Sam Bradford has decided to report, apparently $20 million is enough reasons to play football for a living.”
• Andy Holloway [08:44]: “I believe Sam Bradford has a pretty good year... Sammy Biscuits is a good enough play this year even from fantasy.”
• Allen Robinson [22:54]: “Got to give credit to my teammates first and foremost and our coaching staff for sure.”
• Andy Holloway [37:28]: “Do not vote no on a trade that you just don't like.”
• Jason Moore [41:12]: “Lock in a couple of guaranteed studs and exploit value in later rounds.”

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This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast offers a comprehensive blend of fantasy advice, current NFL news, and an inspiring conversation with Allen Robinson. Whether you're strategizing for your upcoming draft or seeking insights to navigate the fantasy season, this episode equips you with the knowledge and tools to enhance your fantasy football experience.

Transcript

[Al Robinson]

Hey, this is Al Robinson from the Jacksonville Jaguars and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in. Welcome to the show. You know, that didn't sound like David Johnson at the beginning of the episode.

[Andy Holloway]

That wasn't David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

So that's why that is what was the. The target monster, the AR15. Allen Robinson himself joining us on the show today, kind enough to provide an introduction to the show for you as well. And so you don't want to miss that interview that is coming up here shortly. And it's a good one. Allen Robinson was one of those guys that just burst onto the scene last year. One of our favorite players coming out of his rookie season which was marred a little bit by injury.

[Andy Holloway]

He was Mike's my guy last year. If we haven't my guy episode coming up here and you see who we're latching on to. Well done, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Well, thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, appreciate that. Whoever Mike has is his my guys. We get on the show as an interview the next off season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And while it was difficult to get Alan Robinson, we could probably get Jeremy Hill pretty easy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I thought we were maybe not now.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. I'm Andy Holloway joined by Jason Moore and Mike the fantasy hitman. Right. Yes, we are. Your tried and true year round fantasy goodness that drops into your pocket.

[Mike Wright]

Your huckleberries, if you will.

[Jason Moore]

Where your huckleberries. I don't know about that. I don't know if I want that as the officially trademarked motto of the show.

[Mike Wright]

I'll be your huckleberry.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I was with you.

[Jason Moore]

No, I mean I'm all about that movie.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, a movie reference that Andy actually gets. We did America.

[Jason Moore]

That's one of my favorite.

[Mike Wright]

Found it.

[Jason Moore]

One of the most.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me tell you this gun for each of us.

[Jason Moore]

And we've. That's another great line from that. We've got. We've got a great show ahead for you. We've got a lot of news in the fantasy world. We've got the Allen Robinson interview. We got a bunch of mailbag which is. We picked out a bunch of great questions that we think applies to everybody. But to circle back to Tombstone, that's one of the great disappointments in my marriage. You want to hear that? Because Tombstone is one of my favorite. Let me just throw this out there. If there's a cowboy character to play in any video game, I play the cowboy character. This is factual. I like cowboy movies. Now I'm not like a cowboy. I could. I would die on a ranch in like five days and like, I couldn't do the cowboy thing, but there's something heroic about cowboys that I love. And so I love cowboy movies, modern westerns. I love modern Westerns. 3:10 to Yuma, those type of movies. So tombstones, like one of my favorite movies ever. I've always loved it and I've always esteemed it almost at Jurassic park levels. When I Jurassic park levels, almost, I said, okay. And when I was dating my wife, now when she was my girlfriend back then, I was so excited to show her tombstone because she had never. She had never seen it. And she fell asleep in the first third of the movie and just. It almost was a deal breaker. It was almost a deal breaker. But luckily she loved Jurassic Park.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

So there's my story. We're back. I have two quick questions for today. Before I get to that, I will tell you. You can find us on twitterffballers. We're gonna be doing a lot of live streaming and things. So you want to connect to us on Twitter so you can know what's happening with the show. This is gonna be a really fun summer. We've got a lot going on and that's how we communicate a lot of different things. And so check us out on twitterffballers. We're on the fantasy sports network. We're also on YouTube where you can get the show after the show and the website, of course, the fantasy footballers.com where you can get our brand new draft kit pre ordered up. It's good stuff. So two quick questions. Quick question number one, it's super important in our dynasty league, Jason, who are you drafting with the who are you drafting with the number two pick?

[Mike Wright]

So we, in a little pre context.

[Jason Moore]

Mike has the number three pick.

[Mike Wright]

I have the third pick. And so I, Jason just made the move to get up to number two and I said, you know, who are you going to draft?

[Andy Holloway]

This is a startup dynasty and this.

[Mike Wright]

Is the rookie part of the draft. And in a very John Foxian like move, Jason thinks he has some type of advantage over me by not sharing this information, this ridiculous information where he already knows who he's going to draft. I said, well, you can tell me or I will bring it up on the show because if we bring it up on the show, then he has to answer the question.

[Andy Holloway]

You give me too much credit in thinking that I have some advantage over you. I didn't think I had an advantage over you. I Just knew you wanted to know. And I enjoy bringing up pain and suffering, so. But because it's been asked on the show and we will always give our personal.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you care so much more about the Foot Clan than you do, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I do. Here would be my top four rankings for the rookie dynasty draft. In most formats, Ezekiel Elliott will go number one. I did trade up to the number two. I'm going to grab Laquan Treadwell. I think long term value, he's a touchdown type of receiver. That body style, he fits what Teddy Bridgewater can do over the coming years. I believe that Adrian Peterson will not be.

[Jason Moore]

He's not going to play forever.

[Andy Holloway]

He will not play forever. And then number three, where you are drafting Mike, I know you're between Corey Coleman and Josh Dachshund, and I would go Dachshund even though I think he's going to have a worse year this year. In a dynasty setup, you've got a long term value. Pierre Garcon's not going to be long for that team. In years, probably this will be his last one. And I think you're in a better situation. Whenever there's a tiebreaker, I go, not Browns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Whenever there's.

[Mike Wright]

So that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

If hypothetically you're at number five like I am in that draft, who's number five on your list? Is it Sterling Shepard? Is it Boyd?

[Andy Holloway]

I am a big fan of those two guys. It would certainly be one of those two.

[Jason Moore]

It wouldn't be Derek Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

It would certainly not be Derek the bust.

[Mike Wright]

It wouldn't be Henry for me.

[Jason Moore]

All right, question number two is this. Mike, I'll let you answer this one. Carson Wentz. Sam Bradford. Who has more fantasy points this year?

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, Carson Wentz. I'm going to go Carson.

[Jason Moore]

Carson Wentz.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Sammy Diapers has. Well, we're jumping into the news, so maybe we'll get to the.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what I was. I'm leading into that.

[Andy Holloway]

Breaking news. Whoa.

[Mike Wright]

Breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Sam Bradford is back. Is back with the Eagles.

[Mike Wright]

That's how you spin it. You spin the wrong button.

[Jason Moore]

That was the breaking news this morning. Sam Bradford has decided to report apparently $20 million. $20 million is enough reasons to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Football for a living. In all fairness, you were the first.

[Jason Moore]

On the Sammy baby.

[Andy Holloway]

I was on Sammy baby. But I don't blame him for coming in a little late because I think if the teammates were to see at day one the red eyes and the leftover tears, it would have, you know, lowered their belief in him as their quarterback. So he had to wait.

[Jason Moore]

He had to get his puffs on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he had to wait until his swelling came down.

[Jason Moore]

So here's a different kind of dabbing. Here's the eye dabbing.

[Mike Wright]

Here's. Here's my take on Bradford. I completely agree with the logic of him and his, his agent are presenting of he will not be given a fair chance throughout the entire year. Completely agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

It's totally true.

[Mike Wright]

However, you signed a guaranteed contract for guaranteed 20. I think it's even $22 million and.

[Jason Moore]

The contract didn't say you can't draft a quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

You will get that money no matter what. I, it sucks that they're. They have the future there in Carson Wentz. They gave up the sun and the moon and the stars to get Carson Wentz. So he's going to be the starting quarterback. However, what you have to do out there, you have to go good put. Put some good tape down so that you can either get traded or have another chance. And as a starter, not just a backup.

[Jason Moore]

I do believe they want to start the season with Bradford and let Carson wince have some time a couple years. He's coming out of a, you know, not the, the greatest competition in college too. So I think you want to let him adjust to the pro level game. But I wonder if the Philadelphia fans who are often unrelenting will allow that to happen.

[Mike Wright]

Not much. It'll be over. I'll give you over. Under six games for Sam Bradford.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a big number. I'm still going to take the over.

[Jason Moore]

I actually the over as well.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe.

[Jason Moore]

You believe what then?

[Andy Holloway]

I believe Sam Bradford has a pretty good year. Plays most if not all of the year because the division is. I believe the Eagles are in it as much as any other team in that division and if they're in the running they are not going to take him out to put wins in. So I believe Sammy Biscuits is a good enough play this year even from fantasy. I wouldn't draft him but he'll certainly be an early streamer for me.

[Jason Moore]

It's. I mean because you're really by saying that saying you believe the Eagles are going to compete because the situation in which he comes off the field is one where they are restless and they need to put in the rookie and they want to kind of change the look to the future so.

[Mike Wright]

Or he gets hurt.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's move on. Next bit of news. Seahawks have given third round pick CJ Pro size reps with the wide receivers. He's A former wide receiver in Notre Dame.

[Mike Wright]

Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

I think this is exactly what we said on the show, which is look, they know how to utilize skill position players whether it is Harvin for half a year, Tyler Lockett, they want to use players in unique ways and put them around Russell Wilson and let them do what they can do. And if you can, if you can put him in, on, on the field as a wide receiver and have Thomas Rawls on the field, why not have more weapons on the field? But this does to me affirm what we believe, which is that process isn't going to threat threaten Thomas Rawls for first and second down work. Yeah, I don't see a situation where that happens at all. I am, I can't really foresee one Sands injury.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I can agree with that. Just to me, I really think that pro size will, it might just be small, but I think that he will have his fantasy impact this season. I don't think that we're, we're a year in wait for pro size. I think this year he will have at least a few games of note.

[Jason Moore]

Let me ask you this. If you had to decide between pro size right now and Bilal Powell as a fantasy draft pick, who would you actually choose in that situation? Because you've got Forte and Kyrie Robinson and Powell in New York and now you've got Rawls, you've got pro size, you've got what, Alex Collins.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with Powell here for this reasoning of we've, we've seen how the jets want to use him. So either Ryan Fitzpatrick comes back and Powell will get some dump offs or it will be Geno Smith running the offense. There will be close to no rushing attack for the jets because teams will know that Geno Smith stinks and then Bilal Powell will get on the field for dump offs.

[Jason Moore]

I want you to know how relieved I am in some degree that I am no longer waiting with bated breath for Ryan Fitzpatrick to sign with New York the way I was when. Oh because when in one of our major leagues Brandon Marshall was going to be my potential keeper. Like I still obviously am concerned about it. I believe Fitzpatrical will be back which will help Marshall owners, help Decker owners.

[Andy Holloway]

Your concern just shifts in your personal league from the resigning of Ryan Fitzpatrick to the health of Thomas Rawls since he was kept in Brandon Marshall's place. But there's good news here which also speaks to CJ Pro size and his value. A doctor on Rotoviz wrote up a good article kind of going over his exact injury and his talking about Thomas Rawls thinks there won't be any problem at all with him being ready for Week one is kind of what the Seahawks are saying, but it seems like that's just kind of worst case scenario. He believes he'll be ready far before then. So Thomas Rawls looking good from that doctor's perspective, that's very great.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Matt Jones is another guy that is. I had a note to myself because I do this frequently throughout the week, make a note about moving a guy up or down. Matt Jones is on my move up list. And then we got news here from the. What is that? CSN Washington's Rich Tandler said that he could see 15 to 20 carries per game, not touches carries per game. Look, they didn't do anything to make you think he's not going to be the guy and that they don't have confidence in him. Matt Jones is going to go behind where he belongs in the draft because he's not. He's just not really sexy.

[Mike Wright]

You think he'll fall?

[Jason Moore]

I think he will be. I think he'll go higher. Yeah. Well, I don't think he's going to fall to a value. I think he's a value right now.

[Mike Wright]

So where. Where about is he a value?

[Jason Moore]

I'll give you the actual average draft position for Jones as of today. Pulling it up here. I think that he has a value now and I don't think he's going to move up very much. I could be wrong.

[Mike Wright]

I think that Matt Jones right now he is eight.

[Jason Moore]

Where do you think he is?

[Mike Wright]

I think he's in the fourth round.

[Jason Moore]

What do you think, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

I would guess right now he's in the fifth, but I think he'll move up.

[Jason Moore]

He is the currently tied. He's going where Jeremy Hill is going. Second pick of the fifth round.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, that's fair. The hard part about Matt Jones is read, read a couple names around.

[Jason Moore]

I know, I know it's hard to move them past guys. I'm not going to move them past Jonathan Stewart.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Dion Lewis, C.J. anderson, Jeremy Langford, Tavius Murray, Matt Forte. I take, I think I take Matt Jones over Matt Forte.

[Mike Wright]

I think I would too.

[Andy Holloway]

I would take DeMarco Murray, Matt Jones over C.J. anderson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's in that discussion for me.

[Mike Wright]

But the point of me bringing that up is just saying if you're in the early fourth or whatever, you're going to have to make that choice of you're saying I take Jones over all these guys. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And I don't think I take him over the upside of Hyde. I don't think I take him over Stewart.

[Andy Holloway]

The reality is.

[Jason Moore]

But I might take him over, you know, Anderson, Langford, Murray Forte.

[Andy Holloway]

The whole conversation with Matt Jones is he looked terrible last year. You take out a couple of big plays and he looked awful. He fumbled the ball four times, he ran for 3.6 yards of carry. But coming into this next year with a year under his belt and he does have a bunch of physical tools that are impressive, you know, on those big plays you can see he's got the talent and the capability. There's only going to be a handful of running backs next year that have 250 carries.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And he is going to be one of those guys with 250 carries. So it's hard to from a fantasy perspective say, well, I don't like the talent. He didn't show it last year. If you get the ball 250 times, you're scoring some fantasy points.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, absolutely. And the thing is, I'm thinking about it right now with Jones. Will he do better with with momentum in learning, getting the into the game flow? If you watched the Washington games, I mean you had Morris and Jones were just constantly going in and out. I just remember the face of Alfred Morris when he would go in for one run and get pulled out. You could see him just like, seriously, you're pulling me out. So maybe if Matt Jones is given that role, then he will be, he'll. His efficiency will go up.

[Jason Moore]

When I see the average draft position of some of these guys and maybe it speaks to some depth at the running back position beyond the top tier guys, it makes me think more and more about those elite wide receivers early because if I can actually get, let's say I walk into the season with Jonathan Stewart and Melvin Gordon, but I've drafted two elite wide receivers. I'm okay with that. I really am. I mean Gordon here, here's the thing is sometimes when you play 0 RB or you play a strategy like that, you end up taking a chance on low volume guys. What I'm seeing in these mid rounds are guys that are higher volume, they're not sexy. But Jonathan Stewart had what, eight, nine straight weeks last year with 20 carries? Yeah, you've got Melvin Gordon's gonna get the Rock a lot. Jeremy Hill is gonna get the Rock a lot. I mean you're normally playing with guys like Gio Bernard or Amir Abdullah or Justin Forsett, somebody who you're not positive about the workload. I just think it's interesting now that I'm looking at who's there, it just seems like there are more names in the mix, and maybe some of those fall by the wayside. I don't know. But I don't see them. And this is why TJ Yelden in the seventh.

[Mike Wright]

This is why we like to mock draft, which we're.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Thursday, Right?

[Mike Wright]

Thursday. This Thursday. We're gonna do a live mock.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And see how it shakes up. So, okay, the next bit of news where if you've been following the show, you know that. That we've been talking about the drama, the.

[Andy Holloway]

The.

[Mike Wright]

The legend that is growing in San Francisco of Colin Kaepernick. Will he. Will he not be traded? And it was firmly behind team Kaepernick putting him. Oh, he's gonna be in San Francisco. Well, Andy got that part right. However, according to.

[Jason Moore]

That's the horn of Gabbard.

[Mike Wright]

According.

[Jason Moore]

Did you know that that's many sources.

[Mike Wright]

The team is pulling for Blaine Gabbard to beat out Colin Kaepernick.

[Jason Moore]

What is. What does it mean to be pulling for a guy? Do they go to him? Like, I really hope they pull him over to the corner. I really, really hope he.

[Mike Wright]

I think you can't.

[Jason Moore]

I know you can't tell him to.

[Mike Wright]

His face because otherwise you're just saying you have the job.

[Jason Moore]

Is this like Brian. People rooted for Brian Hoyer instead of Ryan Mallet?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, exactly.

[Jason Moore]

You're just not liked in the organization right now.

[Mike Wright]

But. So Blaine Gabbard is.

[Jason Moore]

Isn't Kaepernick better than Gabbard? Isn't he just a better player?

[Mike Wright]

I feel like his upside is you have to have Kaepernick on the field.

[Jason Moore]

As an Arizona Cardinals fan, I'm glad this conversation is taking place.

[Andy Holloway]

But it.

[Mike Wright]

But. So San Francisco, get ready, because Blaine Gabbard could be your starting quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not sure which one is better for Chip Kelly's system. You know, we talk about the running quarterback that he always had at, you know, in Oregon, but you haven't seen that in the NFL. I'm not sure that Kaepernick can play quick enough from the quarterback position as far as making the reads, throwing the ball to really capitalize on Chip Kelly.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, seriously, it really is. And some of the times when you're, when you're browsing on there, looking at the daily auctions, you can find things that are so cheap you can't even believe it there. So here's what you do. You go to pristineauction.com that's P R I S T I N E auction.com right now and find your new swag stuff.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. And Listen, we only recommend products we believe in on this show. That's one of the things, you know, they help support this podcast. Let us do it year round. We only recommend the ones that we really believe in. And so let us know. Let us know your experience with them. Go on to Twitter. Let us know what you get on Pristine Auction. Let us know how SeatGeek app works out for you. We like hearing that stuff. So is there any other news we want to grab before we hop into our interview with Mr. Allen Robinson?

[Mike Wright]

Because I'm getting my body ready.

[Jason Moore]

You're getting. Look, I do want to say this. Delaney Walker signed a two year extension.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

To cement himself in Tennessee. There are some concerns about him blocking more this year. There's a lot of talk about the way they want to run the power.

[Mike Wright]

Offense with the Marco Murray exotic smash mouth.

[Jason Moore]

Exotic smash. Well, exotic smash mouth. You need Delaney Walker in there. And Danny Amendola has decided that being a part of the Patriots is better than not being a part of the.

[Andy Holloway]

Took a pay cut to stay and Danny, that was a wise move.

[Mike Wright]

Kevin Hogan still good?

[Jason Moore]

No, I know Kevin Hogan's looking good. All right, let's go ahead and let's bring in Alan Robinson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you talking to me?

[Mike Wright]

The fantasy footballers are ecstatic to bring on a fan favorite, a favorite of our show, Mr. Allen Robinson of the Jacksonville Jaguars. How are you doing today, Mr. Robinson?

[Al Robinson]

I'm doing well, man. How about you?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, we're doing great. This is a really a huge privilege for us. You were a guy that just speaking fantasy football. We were really excited for what you could possibly do. And then we'll be real. You blew everybody away with a monster year. So you dropped 14 touchdowns, which is just incredible. Do you have anything like a feeling of that your team schemed differently? How did you get to the end zone so frequently as compared to you only had the two touchdowns your rookie year. Then you just exploded.

[Al Robinson]

You know, for sure. Got to give credit, you know, to my teammates first and foremost and our coaching staff for sure. You know, I mean, I mean, Blake, you know, by him being able to. Being able to give me the ball and our line for, you know, holding up for him and also, you know, our coach for scheming up some things, you know, but for us, you know, I just think, you know, what helped me out a lot as well, you know, just playing with so many weapons, you know, so once we get to the red zone, you know, it's so many things that. That you got to cover, you know, so I Mean, I was just fortunate enough to be put in some pretty good situations, you know, and make some plays, you know, but I think it's just a real testament, you know, to our whole offense. Like I said, you know, we have so many weapons and so many things that people have to. Have to be worried about.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely. So this past off season, did you do anything different? I know you were, you were rehabbing the foot, but to make the jump from 11 yards of catch to over 17, I mean, that's just absolutely tremendous. So did you, do you feel like you did anything different over the off season, besides the rehab?

[Al Robinson]

Oh, you know, I had a main focus of getting stronger and faster. I don't think that was my number one point, you know, coming to the, coming into the offseason last year, my number one goal was, you know, to be able to create more exploits for my team, you know, that was the main thing, you know, so it was, it was watching a lot of film, you know, being able to, being able to figure out how to, how to execute and get those things done, you know, rather just, you know, getting off the ball, you know, better this year, you know, being more elite at the line, you know, and just some small things like that, you know, so that's kind of what I, what I focus on, you know, to be able to put myself in that, in that position.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. Well, you, you know, coming out of college, people were saying you weren't the fastest and last year you were actually one of the fastest track. I want to thank you personally, Alan, because in our league of record in the championship week, your 90 yard touchdown was a thing of beauty. So thank you on behalf of all fantasy fans. Do you play fantasy football? I know the Jaguars.

[Al Robinson]

I did not. I did not. I did not play fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

Do other teammates. Obviously, Maurice Jones. Drew was a big player when he was there. Is it something that's ever talked about in the locker room between players?

[Al Robinson]

You know, it's joked around a little bit, you know, but I mean, we mostly hear it for sure, you know, outside of football, you know, everyone, whether it's on Twitter, you know, talking about their fantasy team or in person, you know, but I think it's pretty cool, you know, especially, especially being able to be, to be recognized, you know, just, just around the country, you know, for, for you guys to have that common, you know, thing being fantasy. You know, you may take a person who's in California, you know, who traditionally may not be a Jaguars fan, you know, but it's. Tune in to Jacksonville Football Weekly because they have three or four players on their fantasy team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, we have done our, our best to make sure there are a lot of Allen Robinson fans out there. You are known, yeah, you're known as the target monster around here. So let's talk about some of your teammates on the Jaguars and what you think you are as a team. One of the teams that we expect a big leap forward from this year. We feel you've made some great off season moves on the offensive side of the ball. You haven't made many improvements, but a lot of times keeping things the same is the best way to take a step forward. What, what would you say for yourself and for Blake Bortles are the two things that you want to see improved this year?

[Al Robinson]

Well, you know, for me, it's just being more efficient, you know, I think that's a big part of, you know, like you said, we didn't, we didn't have too many, too many acquisitions in the off season in our offensive room, you know, but we feel like to become a better offense, like offensively in our room, we got to just become better. You know, I think we have all the talent that we need in our pieces in the right places, you know, offensively. So we got just continue to get better in our scheme and just better in our techniques and things like that. You know, I mean, it's such, and it's so hard to say, you know, to speak on Blake, you know, he was such a good leader for us last year, you know, and improved his game a good amount, you know, so, I mean, it's so hard, hard to say, you know, I trust that Blake's going to come in, you know, and be, you know, and be the best player he can be. You know, I think that we have that trust with each and every position and a group on our offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Who wins in a foot race, you or Alan Hearns?

[Al Robinson]

I'm not sure. I have to take my. I had to take myself.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like that.

[Mike Wright]

All right. And then. So follow up to that for. Let's just. In a make believe world, it's weird. I can only have one Allen on my team, on my fantasy team. Am I supposed to draft Alan Robinson or Alan Hearns?

[Al Robinson]

I mean, I, I think it just comes down to your preference. I mean, I mean, of course I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say draft me, you know, but at the same time, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't think, you know, you could go wrong drafting Hearns. And also, you Know, I don't think. I think if you do Marquise in that foot race, too, you know, I don't think anybody. Anybody's touching him in there. You know, he's a. He's a. He's a real burner.

[Mike Wright]

No, that's. That's great stuff. Alan Hearns was. Was actually very tremendous. I mean, there was a time period where he was scoring every single week, and it was fantastic for fantasy players. And then, so it's a quick, who was the best or I guess of your career so far, who has been the best defensive back that you've gone mano e mano with?

[Al Robinson]

Darrell Revis, you know, playing against the jets, you know, I was able to go against him 97 and 99% of the snaps, you know, so we were matched up pretty much the whole game, whether it was from the slot, you know, outside, you know, and then he just has such a. Such a great skill set, you know, and such a. So many things on this tool belt to use in the game. You know, I mean, coming into that game, you really got to be prepared for each and every technique, you know, that a corner can give. You know, sometimes you may play corners, you know, left one particular technique and things like that, you know, but, I mean, he. He's really a jack of all trades, you know, he does it all.

[Mike Wright]

So let's. We're going to get personal here real quick with Allen Robinson seen. I've seen the Twitter game. The Twitter game is strong. And you are a man who is no stranger to the ink, to the tattoos. And I'm speaking as. As a man who is also very personally, very tattooed up. I mean, you even had a guest spot on Ink Master. And for those who don't realize, tattoos often have either a great meaning or a great story behind it. So do you. What is your most meaningful tattoo or the one that you love the story behind it the most?

[Al Robinson]

Oh, it was gonna have to be my. My Michigan catch tattoo, I think, for sure, you know, I think for me, you know, it was. It was one of the biggest things, you know, at Penn State as far as, you know, that play in the game, you know, and how the game. How the game went down, you know, for me, being against Michigan, you know, that was my only time playing against them, you know, So I would say that for sure has the most. Has the most history behind it and the biggest story behind it.

[Mike Wright]

Is it all done? Have you gotten it all shaded up?

[Al Robinson]

It is for the most part. I still got to get a few more things done to it, but it's all done for the most part.

[Andy Holloway]

So what you said something a minute ago about Marquise in a foot race, and you've actually got quite a few. You know, you and Alan Hearns were the guys last year that were the big fantasy producers, but I feel like you've got some other wide receivers there that might be able to make some noise this year. You know them better than we do. What do you think about, you know, last year's rookies and Marquise? What can we expect from some of the other guys this 2016 season?

[Al Robinson]

Oh, a lot, you know, I think, you know, especially for Marquise, you know, I know, I know a lot of people we know haven't saw too. Too much of him, you know, but I mean, I'm excited for him this year, you know, by him getting back healthy, you know, being able to come out there with us, you know, I'm really excited to. To see, you know, I mean, not to even see, but, you know, to know what he brings to our office. You know, I think it's an excitement, you know, through our whole offensive room knowing that we have that element out there of just that big playability. At any point in time, any point in time, you can. You get the ball in his hands in the game. He could. He can take it the distance, you know, and also Rashad Green and TJ Yoda, you know, TJ was. Was real big for us last year, especially, you know, catching the ball at the backfield, you know, and things like that. And then Rashad, you know, same thing with him. You know, he's able to do a lot, you know, whether it's returning force, you know, or, you know, holding down the slot, you know, he's really. He's really a versatile part of offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, that's. I think that those are some exciting players watch out for.

[Jason Moore]

And.

[Andy Holloway]

And Julius Thomas, you know, next year, being able to hopefully play 16 games, we'll have to see how the red zone work splits up between so many great weapons. All right. So do the Jaguars make the playoffs this year?

[Al Robinson]

I'd have to say yes, you know, and I don't think it's, you know, even, you know, that's for sure our goal, you know, So, I mean, for us, we know it's gonna take a lot of hard work and things like that, you know, but I mean, talent wise and Phil around here, you know, I mean, we're ready to take that next step, you know, so we gotta put in the work throughout the spring and throughout the summer to get us to that point, you know, But I mean, I think we have, I think we're just as talent as any team out there, you know. So I think, and I think that this year is the year we take that step.

[Andy Holloway]

We agree with you on talent. Okay, so we ask every player on our show what their coming stat line is going to be. What do you project for the 2016 season for Allen Robinson?

[Al Robinson]

Oh, you know, that's hard to say. You know, I don't, I'm not, I'm not a big guy on predictions. You know, I feel like if I just go out there and I'm available, you know, all 16 games and stay healthy, you know, everything else is going to pan out, you know, I mean, I'm putting myself in a position, you know, to have another good year.

[Andy Holloway]

So a true pro answered like a true pro indeed.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Al, we'll get you out on this one. This one is a, this is a tough one. All right, I'm going to grill you. Who do you got making the NBA Finals and who wins NBA Finals?

[Al Robinson]

You know, I had, I had, I had tweeted it out. You know, I went with the unconventional, you know, matchup and I went rematch between the spurs and he so will. So, so we'll see, man. I mean, hopefully the Heat, I believe they play tonight. Hopefully they don't let me down. You know, I mean, they've kind of. I feel like they should be 30 in this series that they're in right now, but we'll see. You know, that's why, so that's why it's Eastern Conference finals, you know, but spurs, you know what, I feel like it's just so tough to beat those guys in seven games.

[Mike Wright]

Right. So for our, for the Foot Clan, for our listeners out there, is there anything where can people kind of find you in your. Your musings about the NBA?

[Al Robinson]

I'm always on Twitter. You can follow me at the underscore AR15. You know, I'm always ranting about the NBA playoffs and things like that. So you can definitely find me on there.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Alan. Seriously, seriously, big, tremendous. Thank you so much for coming on with us.

[Al Robinson]

No problem.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Allen Robinson, we did it was kind enough to come and talk to us. I enjoyed that conversation quite a bit. Clearly, the two Allens are going to have a great time in Jacksonville this year. That's a young team. That's a team that has pieces at every position. They brought in Ivory, who we didn't get to talk about, but they brought an Ivory and they have Yelden and Hearns and obviously Thomas. You know, Thomas and the young. There are young receivers outside of those two guys that made all the fantasy splashes last year and then the defense got so much better. I just think they're going to be in a position to where I don't know how that translates to the fantasy numbers because of the garbage time success of Blake Bortles and Alan Robinson with the touchdown numbers. Look, if you're winning games instead of losing them by, by double digits in the second half, I mean, that's what it comes down to. But it's a competitive division. There's probably going to be a lot of shootouts in that division.

[Mike Wright]

They're coming. I mean, the Jaguars, long term, in the next few years, it looks like they should be great. I mean, tell me, why didn't I.

[Jason Moore]

Ask him about Gus Bradley for the entire interview and how amazing Gus Bradley is? Because you two have given me the Gus Bradley grief.

[Mike Wright]

It's baffling years.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, I will say this Gus Bradley, you know, he's a nice guy, always has a smile on his face like him. And I have not been the kindest him. I think he has done an okay job and will do much, much, much better than Mike Malarkey.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so I'm glad that you didn't have the courage though, to say, hey, Alan, you know your coach, you guys would be better off without him. Like you've said so many times in.

[Andy Holloway]

The show, it depends on who they replace him with. Speaking of replacements, I was unaware that Kevin Hogan now went to the Patriots. Did they say Chris Hogan?

[Mike Wright]

Did I say Kevin?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's on the Chiefs.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know why that name was in my head.

[Andy Holloway]

That's all right. My producer was telling me, hey, we need a correction. So gotta, gotta, you know, egg is on my face.

[Jason Moore]

That's all right. You can make up for it by answering some listener questions.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's do it. Mailbag. Mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I love Gus Bradley. I need to get an autograph. Gus Bradley picture on the wall.

[Andy Holloway]

You need to go to pristine.

[Jason Moore]

I'm making note.

[Mike Wright]

Gus bus.

[Andy Holloway]

Gus.

[Jason Moore]

Gus bust.

[Mike Wright]

No, not a bust a bus. Like you're riding the Gus bus.

[Jason Moore]

I am. And I'm going to be proven right, just like everything else I say on the show. All right, Mailbag time. If you have a question for the show, go to the website, the Fancy Footballers.com. click on the Submit a question button. You can also call us on the voicemail hotline [phone]-TFFB. We love answering listener questions, doing what we can to help you win your leagues, each and every one of them. I love Foot Clan titles. Hashtag Foot Clan title. But I even more enjoy them when there are multiple. There's no like cap there. You can have as many as possible and it only gets better. So as many leagues as you're in. Trade veto question from Brian in Stillwater, Oklahoma. He says, hey, guys, I was curious about your process on approving trades. I'm in two leagues right now. Both are a mixture of close friends and just people I know. In one league, I am a commissioner, and when a trade occurs, a deputy commissioner and myself decide whether or not the trade is fair. Most of the time we let it go through, but if we disagree, we bring in a third outside party to help decide. In another league, however, it's by league vote. And I feel like most of the time trades are vetoed because of the owners involved, not the actual players. Other than collusion. This bothers me because I feel like if some owners just haven't done their research, AKA listen to your show, or veto trades based upon their feelings towards the other owner. In your opinion, what is the best system for trade approval?

[Andy Holloway]

I love this question, Brian, and here's why I love it. And I'll let you guys answer his actual question, but I'm going to take the question and give a public service announcement. Okay. Because everybody who's listening needs a PSA on approving or vetoing trades. Do not vote no on a trade that you just don't like. That is so silly. The trading veto is there to make sure that a team is not colluding with another team. To make sure that a team is not just giving up and they don't care. Hey, here, trade me all your crappy players for all my good players. Here. Trade. You know, just those. Those things that are like, okay, this guy's has no idea what he's doing at all. He's trading a superstar for an idiot. It's just things that wreck a league. Now, there will be trades all year long in every league that are a little lopsided. Somebody smoked someone. There's not a reason to veto a trade.

[Jason Moore]

And the reality is, is when you say that they're lopsided, what you mean is that they appear lopsided.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? You think?

[Jason Moore]

Because you don't necessarily know. And we, we might have been on this show, Mike just pulled the wool over one of the owner's eyes. In my opinion, in our league, in our.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And he traded a third round pick in a keeper league draft, Ryan Matthew, six. So it's like a six round pick. Now, that being said, we were up in arms emotionally. We hated that Mike had gotten this great trade. We did not for a minute talk about vetoing that trade in the league. Because more often than not, if you've played fantasy for a long enough time, you know the ball can bounce another direction, a player can get hurt. And unless the trait is specifically collusion or I would say taking advantage of some sort of. Or having an advantage in some sort of unfair way, and I don't necessarily know what that could be. That could be like one player just heard that somebody tore his acl, Right. And then the other player has heard it before the other day. That's not taking advantage. I mean, that's not a good trade. That is for the league integrity.

[Mike Wright]

That's ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

So other than that, I think that what you do, I think what you set up is okay in the first league. I think that's fine. I think it's fine in both leagues. But you need to set that precedent. If people don't understand that, then that's your problem. It's understanding the league.

[Andy Holloway]

I like the idea of having the kind of deputy trade commissioner who they just kind of decide for the league, is this fine. And then if it's not, I would then put it to a vote. If you're in a good league. Right. With close friends you've been in a long time. Like our league of record. We've shared this before, but a couple years ago, we got rid of the trade approval process and it is way cooler than I thought it would be.

[Jason Moore]

I've done that in every league I'm in.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

From here on out, it's gone in every league.

[Andy Holloway]

Get rid of it. Because you can always go and undo a trade.

[Jason Moore]

You know, you can veto a trade.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Afterwards, if, if, if everybody's up in arms over something on your Facebook channel or whatever you're using to communicate you, then you put it to a vote and you undo the trade if it happens. But it lets you do trades. You can make a trade Sunday before the game, get it done, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, absolutely. All right. Jeff in Columbus, Georgia has a question. In a $400 cap auction draft, what is the maximum amount I should bid on a number one overall player in the first round?

[Mike Wright]

Hmm.

[Jason Moore]

400 cap.

[Andy Holloway]

400. Well, normally I would say, you know, I try to stick somewhere around $60. If it's, if I'm looking around in a 200. So you know, you double that 120, 130, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So would you say you spend about 50, 50 to 60% of your budget on two studs?

[Jason Moore]

Is that a strategy if you're going after studs? That's a strategy I like. I think that's the right budget is what I mean.

[Mike Wright]

And would you prefer the stud scrubs where you do that you go all in on these two or three guys, you're spending 60, 70% of your money or go after the, like that second tier of guys. So you're gonna get a discount compared to the elite.

[Jason Moore]

I take the studs because I, I'm gonna lock in a couple of players that I feel like are as guaranteed as it comes in fantasy football. And then I want to take advantage of values because I feel like the well educated player in an auction league. They know, you know, the one that listens to this show and does the research and knows the level of value. I think that's when you, you steal the guys later on. And so I put myself in the boat to do that and have a couple of horses.

[Mike Wright]

Next question.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, sorry.

[Jason Moore]

I thought Jason was going to add something, but nope, next question.

[Mike Wright]

This drew in Columbia. I'm coming off of a last place finish and I'm in dire need to redeem myself. I will be drafting 10 of 12 this season and I'm trying to decide if I should go running back or wide receiver for the first round. Assuming Gronk has already taken what position should I prioritize first? And it is a full point PPR.

[Jason Moore]

With two running back, two wide receivers starting.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, the only thing I was thinking about adding to the last question, I will add now because it actually goes with this question, which is be water. We talk about that. Be willing to change. Mike posed the question of do we do studs and scrubs. And for me, I go in with maybe that as an idea first. But if the chips don't fall right, goes up too high, then I change and I adapt. And so it's the same thing's going to happen here. It really depends. If you're drafting 10th of 12th, that is the exact position where you cannot predetermine what you're picking because there's nine players picked ahead of you. And if, if it's all wide receivers being picked ahead of you or all running backs picked ahead of you, it changes who drops to you. It changes how many people are left in the draft tier at that spot. It's really difficult to give you any kind of advice that we could take to the bank and say it is the right call to draft a running back or a wide receiver at that spot.

[Mike Wright]

There was a really high level of busting for running backs last year. It's generally when you're talking those first round top 12 guys, it's about a 50% bust rate. Last year was extremely high. But I'm just going to read through the wide receivers real quick. These are the top wide receivers taken who are considered safe. You know, I'm. No matter what, I'm safe. If I take a wide receiver from last year. From last year. This is based off of last year's average draft position. Antonio Brown, great. DEZ Bryant, Bust. Julio Jones, great. Demarys Thomas, disappointing. Odell Beckham, great. Calvin Johnson, pretty much a bust. He had a couple of good weeks here.

[Andy Holloway]

Very disappointing.

[Mike Wright]

Randall Cobb, bust. A.J. green. Okay. You know, okay to good. Then Ty Hilton, not his fault. And then Brandon Cooks was a bus for half of the year and then great for the about 50.

[Andy Holloway]

50.

[Jason Moore]

In other words, the perception. The perception that wide receivers are so safe is carried along by the foundational player like Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham Jr. And Julio Jones. It's because there's three names there and then the big names on the other side didn't produce last year. The Eddie Lacy's, the Le'Veon Bell with the injury.

[Mike Wright]

Charles got hurt.

[Jason Moore]

I think you're onto something there.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's what I would say. You're drafting 10th. If Le'Veon Bell, Todd Gurley, Adrian Peterson, David Johnson, Odell Beckham, Antonio Brown and Julio Jones. Those a lot of names. No, I know, but those eight guys, you're at 10. If any of those guys falls to you at 10, those, you know, you.

[Jason Moore]

Got to be able to take any of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Any of them.

[Jason Moore]

Not Zeke.

[Andy Holloway]

I wouldn't put him in that group. I would consider him personally. I would not end up drafting him by just the way I draft.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Too many rookies. Question from Josh in Ooh. Mata Media, Minnesota.

[Mike Wright]

I had one of those once. It was delicious.

[Jason Moore]

Sounds good. The NFL draft has got me watching NFL football, so I've always had a bias towards drafting rookie players. Last year he took Abdullah, David Johnson and Devonte Parker. The problem is he's in a redraft. How many rookies is too many to have on a redraft roster? Look, you're. You're in the wrong kind of league. If you like drafting rookies. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Getting that dynasty more than two is usually A bad idea, I think. And really it's not a number so much as where you grab them. If you're investing middle and high picks in them, that's a really scary proposition. If at the very end of your draft you spend your last two picks on them this year specifically, which is really, if you're in a redraft league, the only thing that matters. I don't believe in a lot of the rookies every year. By the end of next year, there will be several rookies who produced because there always are a few. But so often those guys are guys that weren't even drafted. You didn't know whether, you know, they came out of nowhere, they came out of an injury ahead of them. And so as far as going into this year's draft, I am really not high on a lot of rookies. So I don't know, target your favorite or maybe two, but, but don't worry so much about that as drafting the best value at every round through the draft.

[Mike Wright]

This year, I would lean my later rookie picks to running backs as well. I mean, you're like the Kenneth Dixon, Devonte Booker, Kenyon Drake. I mean, these guys are, these are guys who can get, if an injury happens, they will have a huge workload. I just don't see the, the high level rookie wide receivers that were taken. I'm not seeing a huge fantasy year from any of them.

[Jason Moore]

And let's be honest, it's May. And so if there's any. It's gotta be May, it's gotta be May. It's the month of May, thank goodness. And if there's anybody that time. And you know, drafting as late as you can in your leagues matters to these rookies are who you get to see in training camp and in preseason. That might, that should be the indicator of these guys. You might take a flyer on. I mean, look, you've got a new stable of 47 wide receivers in Cleveland. There could be somebody that takes, you know, a leap in the preseason and you go, wow, that guy's gonna have an impact on the team. And that's when you can make those kind of split decisions on, you know, don't necessarily determine now. At least I'm not going to.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Which of the two, which two wide receiver Flyers I'm gonna take. That's gonna happen as late as possible for me.

[Mike Wright]

But just don't overload.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

And I would say this just as another psa, another public service announcement, if you're planning your drafts, a lot of leagues right now are like when Are we doing our draft? We got to find the date. Do it late. Do it as late as possible. Do it after the. At least the third preseason game. Maybe do it after the fourth preseason game. I know it's hard to do that, but it's best for your league.

[Jason Moore]

And one final thought there. The other thing that's challenging about rookies is you might make the right picks, but they're rookies. So it might take six weeks for them to come into their own. And you'll probably have dropped them by then, which makes it frustrating. So timeshare question from Shane in Sudbury. I'm going to pretend that's out of the country. Mike, Bonjour. I kept Yelden at the end of last season and with the acquisition of Ira, I was wondering if I should risk it and hope Yelden holds on to the number one spot or try to get Ivory or try to trade him and let someone else deal with it. If I did trade them, what are some names and levels I should be looking to get in return? Thanks and keep up the quote. Hard work. Just kidding. Great job, guys. Enjoys listening.

[Mike Wright]

How dare you, Shane. How dare you.

[Jason Moore]

Look, I think we have a difference of opinion on this topic in the studio. I have come even further to the side that believes that TJ Eldon will carry the load for this team and that Ivory will be a short yardage and supplemental running back. And so I have the workload at 60, 40 yelden, I would say right now.

[Mike Wright]

So then you would. You would advise just hold on to him and don't. Well, look, what about Ivory? Should he try to acquire Ivory?

[Jason Moore]

I think the price for Ivory is too high. So, no, this is one where this is like Hill and Bernard. You know, I'm going to pick the one I believe in and I'm not going to try to stable both and try to figure out which week to start him because there will be weeks that Ivory will outscore Yelden, but there will be weeks when Yelden outscores Ivory and I think there'll be more of those. So Jason obviously disagrees. So I want to give him the floor.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to be. I very much disagree. I don't think Yelden is going to carry the load there. He wasn't able to get the short yards away they want. Obviously didn't get touchdowns on the ground. And so they bring in Chris Ivory to be that first and second down type of back. Use Yelden as a compliment piece. I would rather have Yelden because he's younger and because he is the pass Catcher, generally speaking, as the year goes on, those guys become more valuable. So I'm not high on Yelden. That being said, I agree with Andy from the standpoint of if you've got him, I don't think you go after Chris Ivory. I don't think you try to trade him now because his value is low. I think the best thing you can do is hold on to him and hope that Andy is right or hope that something happens to Chris Ivory ahead. Chris Ivory has been notoriously injury prone. So in that sense, you know, TJ Yelden could be fine coming later. But if you're saying, like that's your plan to keep him and you have not yet kept him, I think he special notes that you've only got three keepers. I would hope that you could have a better keeper than TJ Yeldin.

[Mike Wright]

I got it.

[Jason Moore]

It's interesting because I feel like you and I are probably going to get, you know, this would be one of our mano e mano battles for the year of seeing how these guys perform.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll have some water bet surrounding.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no doubt about it. Question for Andy.

[Mike Wright]

Would you roll the dice so you're holding on to Yelden and see what it shakes out to, let's say two to three weeks go by Ivory. It seems like what you are talking about, where he's a complimentary guy. Do you consider him a high enough level of handcuff that you would then once the market has gone down on him, would you try and acquire him to have the Jacksonville backfield locked up?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if the market goes down on him, it would. I would have the same philosophy I did last year with acquiring Bilal Powell to back up Ivory so that I had the jets backfield. I don't. I don't know what will take place with that value. But he's a handcuff. Yeah, he's the kind of handcuff that, you know, could, you know, carry the load if Yelden got hurt.

[Mike Wright]

So I think there's handcuffs and then there's like a handcuff.

[Jason Moore]

You want. He's the second one hand.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but I think the big difference, the big difference is last year, Bilal Powell never, ever, ever had the value in the eyes of. Even when he was dominant.

[Jason Moore]

No, no.

[Andy Holloway]

That T.J. elden has because of this, his rookie year hand.

[Jason Moore]

But I think last year, I think last year Bilal Powell was a handcuff. You know what I mean? As opposed to handcuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Totally know what you mean.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, like a modern western handcuff.

[Andy Holloway]

So, so if you're. So let me ask you this. Charles Sims, which kind is.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Charles Sims is a hand.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so. So the modern western. So if this is a valuable guy, then we need him to be a handcuff. But if he's just like, you know, he's the backup, that's just a handcuff.

[Jason Moore]

Nile Davis is more of a handcuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Not okay.

[Jason Moore]

Nile Davis is like.

[Mike Wright]

Nile Davis isn't even a handcuff now. Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

So let me ask you this because I'm genuinely curious on this. Chris. I'm getting so sweating. Chris Johnson, handcuff. All right, so. All right, he's a western handcuff. All right, we've got this figured out. We need to have a handcuff show or do we need to have show? This has gone on way too long.

[Jason Moore]

We may never want to have that show. If we want to have this show continue. All right, Mike. Mike is gone.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, next question.

[Jason Moore]

Right, we're on to Sam Elliott on the show next week. By the way, Nick, in Massachusetts, is eight teams too small for a league?

[Andy Holloway]

No. No, it is not. People will mock you. People will say, oh, that's not a real league. But we have said this time and time again, it is so much better to be in a league with fewer people who care than to say, well, I'm supposed to be in a 10 or 12 man league. So let's get two or four people who have no idea what they're doing are going to after week two quit and not care. I'd much rather be in a dedicated eight team league than in a undedicated 12 team league.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And if you're looking for a good league and you want to be with competitive players, I'm just waiting for you.

[Andy Holloway]

To say, hey, like work it in here. If you want to do that, then yeah, just handcuff yourself with.

[Jason Moore]

You're. You're ruining the. The pitch.

[Mike Wright]

You blew my joke, man. I had a good one coming.

[Jason Moore]

You did well, I. Look, let me tell Everybody about FootClan Leagues.com. you get access to FootClanLeagues.com if you are a member of our fantasy football [e-mail] and so there are literally hundreds of people going on to foot clan leagues, joining leagues together. There are local leagues so you can be with people that are in your general vicinity. There are Internet leagues, there are committed leagues, dynasty leagues, all sorts of different leagues. And so you need to be on jointhefoot.com and then that will give you access to the Foot Clan leagues. And look, we all want to play in fun leagues like that so that we can have the kind of stories that matter as opposed to, hey, you know, Ernie from accounting just dropped Adrian Peterson to sign hometown hero. And there's. Our league is ruined.

[Mike Wright]

There's an all Canadian league.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

They've named the league the Boot Clan.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's got the logo for it.

[Andy Holloway]

I love it.

[Jason Moore]

Fantastic.

[Mike Wright]

What I was just gonna say, you know, in the nice thing about an 18 league is you don't have to.

[Jason Moore]

Ah, that's right. A team. Leagues have their perks. So hey, that is it for today's show. Definitely check out the new draft kit. You can get it on the website. The fancy footballers.com we're going to be. Jason wanted me to make sure to mention this. We're going to be doing some article stuff. Yes, right. Do you want to talk about that for a second?

[Andy Holloway]

We have been asked to do this for a long time and we have also had numerous, numerous people say that they want to write for our website. We want high quality analytical work on our website and so if you are somebody that is wanting to get in on that as well, go to our website, submit your work and we are going to be.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you can't do it yet. You'll be able to do it soon.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we need to.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to put an actual way, you know, a form to do that. Otherwise we're going to have be flooded through different.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but if I tell them that it's up now, you got some work to do.

[Jason Moore]

That's how it always works.

[Andy Holloway]

Alright, so go immediately to the website.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man.

[Andy Holloway]

And submit your work. Well, they gotta write the article, do some good solid work first and maybe you can be a part of what we're doing here going forward.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, thanks again to Alan Robinson for joining us on the show today. Check him out on Twitter ar15. And that's Twitter, love.

[Mike Wright]

Seriously.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter @the ffballers.