Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Injuries

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Injuries Release Date: September 26, 2016

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Introduction and Show Overview

The episode kicks off with a brief promotion of the Fantasy Footballers' Draft App by Mike Wright (00:00), encouraging listeners to join weekly Snake drafts to enhance their football weekends. Jason Moore (00:40) then welcomes listeners to the show, awakening the hosts and setting an energized tone for the discussion.

Early Banter and Team Reflections

Andy Holloway (01:38) and Mike Wright (01:44) engage in light-hearted banter about their fantasy teams, highlighting struggles with their lineups. Jason Moore (01:57) introduces a humorous perspective on Kristen Michael, positioning himself as the anti-Michael within the group. The hosts discuss recent changes and performances, emphasizing Kristen Michael's unexpected breakout (02:51) and Mike Wright's anticipation of his success.

Episode Structure and Segments Preview

Andy Holloway (03:00) outlines the episode's structure:

• News and Injury Reports: Reviewing the past weekend's developments.
• Studs and Duds: Evaluating top-performing and underperforming players.
• Rising Stars: Highlighting players showing significant potential.
• Pooped in Their Big Boy Pants: Discussing disappointing performances.

Injury Reports and Team News

Key Injuries:

• Willie Snead: Confirmed out for the week (09:08), impacting the Saints' offense.
• Russell Wilson: Suffered a sprained knee (09:23), limiting his availability for the Seattle Seahawks.
• DEZ Bryant: Ankle and knee injuries; undergoing MRI (09:53).
• Ryan Matthews: Ankle stiffness, leading to a restricted role (10:48).

Adrian Peterson Discussion:

Andy Holloway (12:01) urges listeners to stash Adrian Peterson, highlighting his commitment to returning and the lack of legitimate competition in his backfield:

"We need to discuss this Adrian Peterson, if he's available on your waiver wire, I would stash him. Really, I would."

Jason Moore (12:27) counters, suggesting dropping Peterson if not on IR to free up bench space:

"I would drop him if I don't have an IR..."

Amir Abdullah Update:

Reported done for the year by Adam Schefter (13:37), leaving his future uncertain.

Studs, Duds, and Player Evaluations

Running Backs:

• Jamal Charles: Rated highly despite injury concerns; Jason Moore ranks him first (07:19).
• Carlos Hyde: Discussed as a consistent underperformer despite occasional strong games (06:46).
• Jeremy Hill: Noted for his explosive performances, but questions linger about his long-term value (38:33).

Andy Holloway (34:30) recommends selling LeGarrett Blount, citing lack of offensive support and inconsistent usage.

Quarterbacks:

• Trevor Siemian: Emerged as a clear starter, delivering impressive performances (22:48):

  "He was the number one quarterback and everyone saw coming the Trevor Siemian..."

• Carson Wentz: Mixed reviews with high potential but consistency issues noted. Andy suggests streaming Wentz (18:22):

  "I don't think you're going to be seeing prolific games regularly from Wentz."

• Jason Michel: Praised for his unexpected performance and strong potential, Mike Wright expresses high expectations (42:24):

  "Christian Michael looks like a next-level running back."

Wide Receivers:

• Marvin Jones: Highlighted as a top performer despite team losses (29:15):

  "He is legit. He is currently the number one wide receiver in all of fantasy football."

• Emmanuel Sanders: Identified as an outlier with explosive potential when utilized effectively (29:23). Andy refers to him as the "human nine route" (29:23).

• Allen Robinson: Emphasized as a reliable target with strategic usage in bad matchups (30:23).

Tight Ends:

• Travis Kelsey: Continues to perform consistently, recognized for his playmaking ability (39:27):

  "There's no more stylish player in the league than Travis Kelsey."

• Cameron Bright: Rising after Austin Sferrian Jenkins was cut, becoming a weekly starter option (40:07).

Rising Stars of the Week

Rushing:

• Terrell Pryor: Highlighted as a versatile player with significant upside, commanding starts due to his central role in multiple phases of the game (41:05):

  "He gets snaps at quarterback, which can make his points rise very quickly."

• Marvin Jones: Named Jason Moore's rising star for his consistent performance (42:24).

Receiving:

• DeAndre Hopkins: Continued strong performance, although some inconsistency noted (31:00).

Pooped in Their Big Boy Pants

A segment dedicated to underperforming players, including:

• Ryan Fitzpatrick: Criticized for turnovers and poor quarterback play (46:06).
• Spencer Ware: Noted for a negative performance resulting in a fumble (50:09).
• Jonathan Stewart: Highlighted for inconsistency and poor performances.

Trade Advice and Strategies

• Alshon Jeffery: Discussed as a high-risk, high-reward player prone to injuries. Andy Holloway considers trading him early (15:31):

  "If you're a competing team in the playoffs and you get to pick up a guy that might get the workload..."

• Jason Moore advises maintaining flexibility with quarterbacks like Jameis Winston, emphasizing not to be swayed by single-game performances (28:30).

Promotions and Sponsors

• Draft App: Continues to be promoted, with hosts sharing their weekly draft standings and encouraging listener participation (19:00):

  "Download the draft app, get your life in order, put in the promo code ballers..."

• SeatGeek: Another sponsor offering a $20 rebate for first-time ticket purchases with promo code footballers (20:23).

Final Thoughts and Monday Night Football Preview

The hosts provide a brief preview of the upcoming Monday Night Football game, expressing skepticism about a high-scoring affair due to key injuries and defensive strengths (56:20). Andy Holloway (56:20) mentions taking the under, citing Willie Snead's absence and Julio Jones being banged up:

"I'm going to take the under tonight. I don't even know what the over is, but it's the highest of the week."

Closing Remarks

The episode closes with reminders to join the Fantasy Footballers community at jointhefoot.com and follow them on Twitter @FFballers. The hosts encourage listeners to engage with the show through the Draft App and SeatGeek promotions, wrapping up with a lighthearted farewell.

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Notable Quotes

• Jason Moore (28:30):

  "You can't be so biased by last week that you... need to come, you know, with a fresh slate."

• Andy Holloway (12:01):

  "If you can stash him [Adrian Peterson]."

• Jason Moore (22:48):

  "He was the number one quarterback and everyone saw coming the Trevor Siemian."

• Andy Holloway (29:15):

  "He is currently the number one wide receiver in all of fantasy football."

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Key Takeaways

• Injuries significantly impacted player performances and fantasy lineups.
• Kristen Michael emerged as a surprising standout, boosting his fantasy value.
• Marvin Jones and Terrell Pryor were highlighted as top performers.
• Adrian Peterson remains a contentious yet potentially valuable asset if stashed correctly.
• Strategic streaming of quarterbacks like Carson Wentz is recommended.
• Trade opportunities may arise from underperforming players, especially with injury concerns.

This episode offers comprehensive insights into managing fantasy football teams amidst injuries and fluctuating player performances, providing listeners with actionable advice and strategies to enhance their league standings.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

Hey, foot Clan. Before we start today's show, I want to remind you that every Sunday we are taking it to the limit with the draft app. Look, you can join us and thousands of other Foot Clan listeners in a weekly Snake draft that is enhancing everything about the football weekend. You can download it right now. That's the draft app. Use the code ballers. That's going to get you set up, put you right in this week's draft. You can play for free. Maybe you make some water bets or you can even play for, for money if that's how you want to do it. IOS Android. The draft app has you covered. Download it right now and put in the code ballers.

[Jason Moore]

There has been an awakening. I am awake. Have you felt it? Wake up. Wake up. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it happened.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I, I, I can't even.

[Andy Holloway]

You didn't focus on one other thing this entire weekend, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Look, my teams were in the toilet. The Cardinals lost.

[Andy Holloway]

You didn't care one bit.

[Mike Wright]

I did not care. The woke one.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, you know what's crazy is I'm, I'm the, the anti Kristen Michael guy of this group. I had him ranked the highest.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you changed late in the week. I mean, obviously once Rawls was inactive, you, you went all in on Kristen Michael. I don't know how these things keep happening to the show where, I mean, last year, Kristen Michael, and now you have this day happen. I know many are looking forward to the intro to this show because, my.

[Mike Wright]

Goodness, I mean, you'll get some hits. I don't, you know, I don't always have to take the victory lap like, oh, man, I call this one. But when I've been waiting a year and a half for this to happen, finally every star lined up. All the planets went full. Aquarius, Jupiter was aligned with Mars.

[Andy Holloway]

And that's what it took for Kristen.

[Jason Moore]

Michael to have one good game.

[Mike Wright]

But the woke one, he came through in a big way.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we did rank him high, so hopefully you started him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And if you, if you believe you can find him on my team and we can work out a good trade.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. It is Monday, September 26th. Week number three nearly in the books. We have a Monday night football game this evening. We are the fantasy footballers back again with yet another show. We will be going through all of the news injury reports from this past weekend's action. We'll jump into the stud muffins. We'll jump into our rising stars and we'll share share our thoughts on the players that pooped their big boy pants this weekend.

[Mike Wright]

There's a lot of them.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a lot of them. And so you will have questions, we will have answers, and this will be a great show. You can find us on Twitter at the ffballers. Mike was once again on periscope. Did you almost pass out again this weekend?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no. I'm getting in the groove now of calm handle.

[Andy Holloway]

How many people were in there?

[Mike Wright]

You know, I like 10.

[Jason Moore]

Over.

[Mike Wright]

Over the periscope. Something like 11,000 people showed up.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Jason Moore]

Awesome.

[Mike Wright]

Awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you answer 11,000 questions?

[Mike Wright]

At least.

[Andy Holloway]

At least. Okay. So very excited about today's show and for this week. Anything else going on that you guys want to get into before we jump into the quick question? My almost upset of the week was looking disastrous with the lions and the packers. And it kind of got look for me. I want the team that could upset to have the ball with a chance to win on the last drive. That didn't happen. So I let the world down. But it got kind of close up in Lambeau.

[Jason Moore]

My upset. Those vikings. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

What I mean, that defense is legitimate.

[Andy Holloway]

Best two coaches in football right now. Zimmer Belichick winning against all odds. Both lost quarterback. And you know, you lost quarterback running back in Minnesota.

[Mike Wright]

You lost quarterback running back.

[Andy Holloway]

They lost running back and tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And two quarterbacks. I mean, really? In new England.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would say.

[Andy Holloway]

And they're dominating.

[Jason Moore]

I would say the best two quarterbacks right now are Bill and Belichick. He's on his own tier.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are the two.

[Jason Moore]

Don't you move anyone up with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are both quarterbacks. You said those are the best two quarterbacks.

[Jason Moore]

He could succeed if he went out and played quarterback. He may have to.

[Mike Wright]

He would.

[Jason Moore]

They would win the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Can you imagine him going out there? Sure. That curmudgeon face.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's got to wear the hoodie. You could throw a touchdown over the pads.

[Andy Holloway]

Hoodie over the pad.

[Mike Wright]

James Jones hoodie. So he could do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. James Jones did hoodie. All right. So I do want to remind you, if you go to footclangiveaway.com youm can get in on that Eddie lacy jersey. That deadline is almost here. We're giving away that Eddie lacy jersey along with fandings. Yeah. Partnering up with them on that. And Mike, I beat you on the water bet this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. I took the under in the lions match and then the Rogers Explosion that everyone had been waiting for. It finally happened in the first half.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, quick question of the day. This one comes from art vandelay.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

You know that reference? Come on.

[Jason Moore]

I don't have it.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm so sad. I mean, beyond sad right now.

[Mike Wright]

It's in my head.

[Andy Holloway]

But I can Art vandalay give me the reference. That's the name that George from seinfeld. Oh, that always calls himself when he's a pretending to be an architect.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, the. The Art seinfeld was in my head, but I couldn't narrow it down.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, rest of season, rank these guys in order. Kind of a fun question here.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my.

[Andy Holloway]

Rest of season, Kristen michael, jamal charles, Jeremy hill or carlos. Carlos hyde is the worst because here's what happens with carlos hyde every week. And you guys rank, think about your rankings while I say this. Every single week, carlos hyde sucks. And every single week he doesn't suck for fantasy owners.

[Mike Wright]

He doesn't suck week one.

[Andy Holloway]

I know, I know. You're right. He was bad last week. Got into the end zone. He just was not having a great game against seattle. And then eventually, you know, two eight yard touchdown runs. So. All right. Rank them.

[Jason Moore]

All right. For me it's easy. It's going to be jamal charles number one, Carlos hyde number two, Jeremy hill, number three. And the woke one's going to take a nap eventually here. And he comes in number four. For me, if I were ranking these rest of season, not necessarily. It will definitely not this coming.

[Andy Holloway]

No concern that jamal charles is not going to get back into form.

[Jason Moore]

I definitely have concern that jamal charles is not going to come back into form. But I think that he will be into enough form to be better than carlos hyde, jeremy hill and kristen michael.

[Andy Holloway]

That's all it takes for that ranking.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. I'm going to put charles number one. I'm struggling here with number two between hyde and the woke one because the situation with seattle. Seattle is the perfect place for michael to be in because Pete carroll, peach cobbler, we haven't called him that forever, but peach cobbler up there, he plays the best guys. And right now michael is light years ahead of where rawls has been and shown this entire year. I know rawls, maybe you're going to fall on the injury thing, but can rawls get back into form? I don't know. So I'm going to, you know, I'm going to go jamal charles. I'm gonna go with the woke one and then hide and then hill, Hyde.

[Andy Holloway]

Then hill yeah, I'm gonna go. Jamal Charles, Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Chris. Chris and Michael, then Jeremy Hill. And the thing about you saying he plays the best ones, he also has a long term look to it. I mean, they know that Rawls is a huge part of this team moving forward and you have to give him confidence to get out there and to play now he has to be healthy and can he stay healthy or is this going to be a lost year for Thomas Rawls? That's the question to be answered. Think they probably will split some time and that's why I don't have them at the top of the list. But remind everybody you can go to the fantasy footballers dot com, find all of our articles, all of our content, submit questions to the show and obviously you can find our foot clan, our Listener [e-mail] Let's jump into the weekend. Rewind.

[Jason Moore]

Weekly rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, a lot of news going on. Big news this morning. Willie Snead is out. O u t out.

[Mike Wright]

Is this confirmed or is this.

[Andy Holloway]

It's confirmed. It is confirmed.

[Jason Moore]

It's being reported that he's out, but he's not officially listed as out. But yes, I mean, the guys around the Saints are saying he's not going.

[Andy Holloway]

To play tonight and it is. It has been reported as an official thing on Rotterworld as well. So Seahawks coach Pete Carroll confirmed after Sunday's win that Russell Wilson has a sprained knee. This is the opposite leg that he hurt two games ago against the Dolphins. If you saw the injury that was nasty, didn't look very good. He came out of the game. He says he could have came back in if it was a closer game. They were wise to keep him out unless they were thinking about my fantasy team. DEZ Bryant. What's the latest on Des does going.

[Mike Wright]

To have an mri?

[Andy Holloway]

We saw what came back in the game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it looked like a pretty scary injury there for DEZ Bryant as his ankle and his knee bent a way that they're not supposed to bend. But he came back in, had a good game and they're, but they're going to mri, make sure everything's all, all good in there. Structurally sound.

[Jason Moore]

This looks very reminiscent of what we experienced last week with Brandon Marshall. He has that nasty looking injury, comes back plays because everything's warm now you got to go make sure that it's okay. And you might see him a little bit slowed down this week. Brandon Marshall looked a little slowed down for his normal self. But we'll report tomorrow on the results, which Will probably come back negative.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. All right, let's talk about Ryan Matthews, the most disappointing, one of the more disappointing players. Let's just talk on the injury front because we can discuss his role later on because he's certainly a member of the pooped in their big boy pants segment. But Ryan Matthews. What is the latest? Does he have an ankle injury?

[Mike Wright]

So it came out eventually that Ryan Matthews, that his ankle stiffened up. This is the ankle. He's kind of been dealing with this since training camp, so it's. It's never gotten quite right. And that's why they pulled him out. And they. The Eagles have. I mean, they got some weapons at the running back position.

[Jason Moore]

Always nice when the news comes out after the game.

[Mike Wright]

Man, that was really nice. So frustrating.

[Jason Moore]

In the eternal words of the Wedding Singer, something you could have told me yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

And, like, I saw a couple tweets and they're like, yeah, he's. He. It was a tough week of practice for him with the ankle. Come on, beat reporters, let us know what is happening. I can't fly up to Philadelphia and look myself.

[Andy Holloway]

It's actually Winsylvania now. Oh, it's Winsylvania. Where they're.

[Mike Wright]

This.

[Jason Moore]

This did just come out, right. The second from sleeper bot, though. Doug Peterson is saying that the team's going to continue to use complete backfield rotation when Ryan Matthews is healthy.

[Mike Wright]

Well, maybe because last time he said he was going to feed him carries, then they went to the rotation.

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Mike Wright]

So now he's calling for the rotation. That's when Matthews will get 20 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

We need to discuss this Adrian Peterson, if he's available on your waiver wire, I would stash him. Really, I would. He's committed to coming back this season. There was another report this morning. I've heard that he can get back. I've heard that he can get back on the field. And look, nobody's gonna run away, literally or figuratively, with. With that backfield while he's gone. So if you can stash him.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just saying there are a lot of people who have dropped him, and there are a lot of people who ask if they should drop him. And my personal professional advice is, no, do not drop Adrian Peterson.

[Mike Wright]

I would drop him.

[Jason Moore]

I would drop him if I don't have an ir because I'm not going to waste a bench spot for the next two months where, you know, if.

[Andy Holloway]

You'Re telling me back in eight weeks.

[Jason Moore]

That would be two months. If you were to, say six weeks from now, hey, you know, pick up Adrian Peterson once it's coming closer, if you got to hold them for a week or two. That's. That's amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

That was completely accidental.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Perfect.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought that the. Yeah, that was a complete accident.

[Mike Wright]

That's an over.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. That's all.

[Mike Wright]

The initial reports were three to four months. And even if it's two months, I'm not going to burn an entire spot on Adrian Peterson on my bench.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I understand. I lean towards the IR only or deeper bench situation. I'm just saying, if you're a competing team in the playoffs and you get to pick up a guy that might get the workload, just throwing it out there for now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You can always drop him in a week or two if you have more clarity as well. Let's talk about Amir Abdullah, done for the year. Adam Schefter is reporting. Done for the year.

[Mike Wright]

They said he. The lines think, yeah, it keeps going back and forth.

[Jason Moore]

I think we got to wait for more information. But this is the last report because if this is. I mean, sure, this one might be the right one, but the previous one could have been the right one. That yesterday was like, oh, he's going to be back in week 10.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. We don't know. So the answer is we just don't know yet.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Eli Rogers left the game with a toe injury. No big deal. Jordan Cameron, concussion, he's going to miss Thursday. Jeremy Langford, carted off with an ankle injury.

[Mike Wright]

There's a big one. There's a big one. It immediately came out that you had an Achilles problem, which is that's going to send fear and panic to everywhere. And Jordan Howard immediately skyrockets to the top of the waiver wire. Foot glan. I hope, I hope that you were stashing Howard. We talked a little bit about it last week that Howard has appeared to be the much better running back. We don't have a complete handle on Langford's injury at this moment.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not. I don't think it's Achilles because he was in a walking boot after the game. So that's not something you do with a ruptured Achilles.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

So.

[Mike Wright]

But all reports right now are he's at least going to miss some time. So Jordan Howard is still going to be a good pickup this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Alshon Jeffrey is the master at producing fantasy points while partially injured, and he put up another nine or 10 points last night, but he was clearly hobbled. He was in a knee brace after the game. Look, welcome to life with Alshon Jeffrey. You just have to do the stupid dance every single week with Alshon because he's just not. He's prone to injury. He's prone to injuries that aren't severe enough to take him completely off the field all week of practice, but limit him during the game and make him annoying to play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if you want to trade him, trade him early in the week because reports are going to come out this week that he's not participating in practice. And people will see that late in the week. I mean that honestly. I say that as a mass.

[Andy Holloway]

I already got a trade offer for him this morning. Smart Dynasty League trade. What would you do in my shoes?

[Jason Moore]

Ooh, I like him.

[Andy Holloway]

I was offered Devonta Freeman and Jordan Howard for Alshon Jeffrey.

[Mike Wright]

Pass. Yeah, that's an easy pass.

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather see Arian Foster. Adam Gase came out, said he won't play on the Thursday night game this week. They're going to give him more time off. So it'll be the Kenyan Drake show and then Jay Ajay will come in for all the overtime touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

That was so upsetting to me. Drake. Drake was playing.

[Andy Holloway]

Imagine if you started Ajayi, he saved your day on the last play of the game.

[Jason Moore]

And what was crazy was so Ajayi or Drake got the largest share of snaps and he performed the best with the carries that he was given. Of the entire. Of the four, there were four running backs used. But then in overtime, it was like it started and I go, what? Why is a jai out there? And then he gets that touchdown. I was so sad.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Rashad Jennings was a late scratch. They said because of the hand injury, he couldn't catch the ball. So they didn't, you know, they couldn't use him in the passing game.

[Mike Wright]

I thought it was a little strange that he had a cast on the hand. They were always going to play. You're going to play a running back with a cast. I mean, that just hard to hold on to. That sounded a little bit strange to me. So the scratch was not that.

[Jason Moore]

So if that's the case, do you think he's, you know, gonna miss another week?

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's gonna miss more time. We'll need to pay attention, but I think he will. You know, those of you that scooped up Shane Marine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That you're the lucky one. Lev Bell's gonna be back. You get it? We get a rank him this week.

[Jason Moore]

I know where he's gonna be.

[Mike Wright]

Spoiler alert. Lev Bell, my number one Year, my number one running back.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not sure about his matchup yet, but he'll probably be number one no.

[Andy Holloway]

Matter what on the first week back.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he. I mean, he's been healthy for a long time. They played him into the third and I think even into the fourth quarter in the preseason.

[Andy Holloway]

Apparently they could use him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I.

[Mike Wright]

That was a rough week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was a good. A good trap game. And the Eagles, man, apparently the Eagles are good. Carson is for real. Carson Wentzville, their defense is pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I. They're going crazy up there over. Carson wins. And he. Look, I would if you saw the play, the play that impressed me the most in that game. What I mean, there were many. And again, he hasn't thrown an interception is he steps up in the pocket and he had such athleticism. Reminded me of like Andrew Luck bursting through the pocket, comes out the right side and then he goes, Russell Wilson run on the run, hits sprawls in stride for the 73 yard touchdown. I mean, if you watch whether it's Russell Wilson or Luck or anybody else, if you can get out of the pocket and throw on the run in this league, that's when your opportunities come.

[Jason Moore]

Aaron Rodgers does.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, the athleticism, the accuracy and not making mistakes, it's just been really impressive. And their defense, unbelievable performance by their defense, giving up three points to Pittsburgh. This, you know, vaunted Pittsburgh offense, look, they gave up a bunch of yards to Antonio Brown, but it didn't matter.

[Mike Wright]

So are you adding Carson Wentz anywhere?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, because I think that team wins in a. In a fashion that is just too rounded in the Alex Smith fashion. So I think Wentz is streamable in the right matchup just like Smith is. But I don't think you're going to be seeing prolific games regularly from wins. He may have a few, but that's my take. Do you guys have different opinions?

[Mike Wright]

No, I agree. I just wanted to see where you are. I'm not gonna freak out over three games, but I've certainly been impressed. Been impressed with him.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Almost time to get to the stud muffins. Before that, though, we want to share.

[Andy Holloway]

Delicious.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, stud muffins are delicious.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

They come with a lot of points.

[Andy Holloway]

Lot of points.

[Jason Moore]

A lot of points. Yeah. No, we want to remind everybody about our good friends over draft. The draft app. We.

[Andy Holloway]

We are battling right now.

[Jason Moore]

We are.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to pull up the draft app right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we've been playing every week. It is A blast. If you. I mean, most people listen to the show, have been playing on draft with us. If you have not yet, then get your life in order and download the free draft app. It's available on all of your iOS and Android, both platforms. Another way to say that we've got I know I've got tonight, Brandon Cooks and Drew Brees.

[Andy Holloway]

Right now I am up 94 to 43. Mike's out to 41.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you drafted Carson Palmer, but Breeze.

[Andy Holloway]

Julio, and Cooks are still remaining for you, Jason. They're going to have to match what I did with Landry and Brown, Gordon and David Johnson and Philip Rivers, and.

[Jason Moore]

I think they'll get it done. So anyways, download the draft app, get your life in order, put in the promo code ballers, and you'll be put into our weekly leagues with us. And then you could play head to head. You can win some money.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Mike Wright]

Do you.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you Bake. Jason, are you a baker? I mean can you bake a mean pan of muffins?

[Jason Moore]

I don't bake extraordinarily well but I eat baked goods as good as anyone. I would say I'm expert level at eating baked goods and other non baked goods as well.

[Andy Holloway]

So just any food but no preference?

[Jason Moore]

No, I prefer baked edible.

[Andy Holloway]

That's it?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Jason, for Sundays football though, that people want to know, how was your snack count? Did it remain high?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Snack count this week was 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, good. Snack count for the fourth consecutive, third consecutive week.

[Jason Moore]

Third consecutive week, 100% snack count.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, well, we always run through those numbers.

[Jason Moore]

Let's start with the clear cut winner of this week. Everyone started him. He was the number one quarterback and everyone saw coming the Trevor Simeon.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Jason Moore]

I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask if you started Trevor Simeon in your league, will you please tweet us with a screenshot?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They're ashamed. They're ashamed at their 700 points.

[Andy Holloway]

They got Trevor Simeon, the Trevor Endeavor, 312 yards, four touchdowns, no picks against the Bengals.

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

And really, you know, really nice throws. These were not. This was not a screen pass the demaries that he took to the house. This was an over the top ball to Emmanuel Sanders.

[Jason Moore]

Squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak. Yeah, squeaky Will.

[Andy Holloway]

Marius Thomas saves the day with a 50 something yard touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Got the oil. When I was looking up the game splits for Denver, they definitely have a tendency to throw more on the road and run more at home. So it's something. Look going forward to keep in mind.

[Andy Holloway]

Would that just be explained? I'm just asking simply by the fact they're probably winning at home and they're probably competing in games on the road.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean factors in it definitely makes sense. But for a team that you just assume is only going to run, run, run and barely throw when they're on the road, we might be able to look at Emmanuel Sanders and Marius Thomas with rose colored games, as you would say. As I would say.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Matthew snapback and Aaron Rodgers battled it out. Unbelievable game for both of them. Stafford had 385 yards and three touchdowns in the comeback attempt. Aaron Rodgers, he never needs more than about 200 yards to throw his touchdowns. Four touchdowns for Rogers.

[Jason Moore]

He only, he only threw 15 completed passes in the whole game. Fifteen. Four of them were touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

This is Rogers.

[Andy Holloway]

They're still figuring this offense out and you saw it in the second half. They did not put this game away. I mean this was interesting and there were reports coming out that they're retooling that offense. Did. Did you guys see those.

[Jason Moore]

Ty Hilton trying to get or. Ty Hilton's trying to get on the line. Ty Montgomery trying to get a little bit more.

[Andy Holloway]

Talking about changing and look, I would. I mean, I don't know what it is. If you're a Randall Cobb owner. Oh, you're probably done with it. I'd be done with him. I mean, there's nothing consistent there. Yeah, I don't want to roll that out.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, he's going to have. He'll have his big gains, but that's not a player I'm going to start every single week.

[Andy Holloway]

Ryan Tannehill, Kirk Cousins, Carson Wentz and Jameis Winston all had very big fantasy games. You know, what do you think? What do you think about these guys? Who has the long term value here?

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Tannehill was one of our starts of the week. I think we saw the team coming, so it was nice that he actually performed. He does well when he's favored at home. Carson Wentz was the biggest surprise for me. Pleasant surprise. But we've talked about him and Jameis Winston, man, he can.

[Andy Holloway]

They lost.

[Jason Moore]

He can ball it out.

[Andy Holloway]

58 passing attempts.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, 58, 400 yards, three touchdowns, only one pick. So does that mean next week he stinks and then the week after that he's great?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I need to. I need to figure this out.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I was going to bring that up and I'm glad you did. I want you to. You know, we talk about late round quarterbacks, we talk about streaming quarterback plays, but your team in one of our leagues has had that scenario where the starts have been flip flopped, where you've had the right guy on the bench and the wrong guy. Explain, because everybody's going to go through that too as a process of streaming quarterbacks. So explain kind of what's happened and. Yeah. And maybe how to avoid that or what. What is the. So I have.

[Mike Wright]

I've had Flacco and Winston on my bench now for a couple weeks. Last week I went with Winston because I needed the. I needed some huge upside.

[Andy Holloway]

Like 36 for 58 and 403 yards.

[Mike Wright]

That's exactly. That's exactly why I started him over. Flacco. Flacco would have been the right play. This week I went with Flacco against Jacksonville and Winston was the right play. I think that for me, Winston is very close to becoming just. I'm going to start him no matter what and I'll take my lumps with the bad games. Even the Great.

[Andy Holloway]

You know who Winston is?

[Mike Wright]

Who's that?

[Andy Holloway]

He's this year's Blake Bortles. Maybe because the team isn't good enough to ever put him in the position where he's just going to be sitting on elite.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, and so that.

[Mike Wright]

That's not a bad point.

[Andy Holloway]

The attempts are going to be there, and that's how they want to build this offense, too.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was going to say. So for the Winston look, you're going to get bad games. Aaron Rodgers gives you bad games every once in a while, so I think I might just put him in the. In the starting lineup and deal with the consequences.

[Jason Moore]

I'll tell you, I think part of why you. And this is good for our listeners as well is sometimes a guy burns you in a week, right? And just like, you know, Jameis Winston did the week prior, every week, you need to come, you know, with a fresh slate and forget the emotional losses that you've taken and just look at, you know, look at things afresh and don't be off of a guy like, you know, a lot of people are going to bench Big Ben this week because he stunked in their lineup, and they're going to be two recency.

[Andy Holloway]

Stunked. Did you say stunt?

[Jason Moore]

Of course I said stunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Stunt, big bin, big beans.

[Mike Wright]

You did?

[Jason Moore]

I did. I did. I said it.

[Andy Holloway]

I was like. I was doing some research over here, and to be honest, I was tuning you out for a second. And nothing breaks the silence in my mind like the word stunt.

[Jason Moore]

But the point is, you can't be so biased by last week that you. Yes, you make those. You make those bad decisions like Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

The rubber band type.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it was. I mean, it was Winston against the Rams and Flacco against the Jaguars. So I don't. I, I overthought it. I should have got you.

[Jason Moore]

You can just look at my rankings next week and thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Appreciate it.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I want to move on to the wide receiver Stud muffins of the week. If you were like me and you got Marvin Jones, you probably didn't win. And I got Marvin Jones in two of my four leagues. I had to put my eight head in my hands and just weep because six for 205. Two touchdowns. Look, when you watch Marvin Jones play, he. He owns the sideline. And he just. All year long, all preseason, you can throw him the ball anywhere in the sideline, and he owns it. It's just impressive. He is the number one on that team by far. You know, they lost this week. But you have to be all in on Marvin Jones at this point, do you not? And we can talk more about him because he's going to be in another segment. Is that right?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. All right. Emmanuel Sanders, the squeaky wheel, nine for 117, two touchdowns. Where do you put him? Is this outlier or pattern?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go outlier here because if you. You have Samian, who had the great game, which it ended up putting CJ Anderson in our not so good segment because the touchdowns went to Samian, which means that a wide receiver is going to get him. I expect that to be more skewed towards the running backs than Simeon balling out with 304.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. He must have heard me call him the human nine route. Yeah, he did because Trial Pryor came out and did everything on the field. He ran, he passed, he caught eight for 144.

[Jason Moore]

There was a point in the game where. Where he was leading the team in passing in rushing and receiving. Yeah, I don't know if that's ever happened before. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So I want to talk about him at length too in our raising cane segment a little bit later. So I'm not going to get into it, but he had a great game. Huge fantasy day. Other wide receivers, you guys pick who you want to talk about. Jarvis Landry and Jordy Nelson.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to pick Allen Robinson to talk about. This is a guy that we kept saying over and over and over on the show last week and on Twitter everywhere. Do not get off of Alan Robinson. He spent his first two weeks with great defensive backs in his face and good target numbers. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Especially week one.

[Jason Moore]

And so, you know, we all. This was a game we saw coming. Seven for 57, two touchdowns, 11 targets. He was highly ranked for all owners go. So he is good. So watch him in bad matchups.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordy Nelson, touchdown magnet.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Four touchdowns and three.

[Mike Wright]

And he did. He had a catch where it almost looked like. Almost looked like vintage Jordy Nelson where he's getting. Rogers had a nice dime over the middle where I feel like 2 years ago Jordy might have taken that to the house, but makes sense that he.

[Andy Holloway]

Needs a few games to get into the process there. Mike Evans, Doug Baldwin, Ty Hilton. Ty Hilton undressed Vermette all game.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he did. And what's Verrett?

[Andy Holloway]

I think I called him Vermette again.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, for me personally, I had Hilton just body buried in my rankings. And over. Over the course of the weekend, I raised him up like Josh Groban.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

So hopefully you followed the rankings and the periscopes and things because things change things guys, eventually. Guys move up, guys move down.

[Andy Holloway]

I moved them up on Sunday morning too.

[Jason Moore]

Public service announcement Sunday morning. Our rankings change a lot. There's so much news that's coming out and so you want to make sure you're checking the website and being up to date with the changes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. So. All right. Doug Baldwin, 8 for 164 and a touchdown. One of the best catches I've seen all year. The left handed, full laid out dive.

[Jason Moore]

That was very nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Now Baldwin's touchdown came from Boykin. Baldwin also had, you know, eight receptions where Tyler Lockett had zero targets. So I mean, this is the Baldwin show. This is becoming the Jimmy Graham show.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to say the, the Jimmy Graham who will absolutely be in the, in the, the tight end portion of this show. If Graham is going to get targets, then Lockett is going to be done well.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to be a big play guy.

[Mike Wright]

He's going right. He won't be a key cog of the offense because.

[Jason Moore]

Which makes him just too difficult to start fantasy lineup. And then Mike Evans, I know you mentioned his name, but he's doing it every single week. His targets are there. He's big. He's a red zone option. 10 for 132 and a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

He could be the number one guy. I mean he's that good.

[Jason Moore]

One of our breakout candidates before the season. I know a lot of people have him and they're happy that they, that they picked him up in their leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

Carrying on the comparison of Blake Bortles, he's the Allen Robinson on the other end where if they are down and they're throwing for 400 yards a game, it's impossible for Evans to not be at this echelon. And you know who's not performing?

[Mike Wright]

Vincent Jackson.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah. I call him Roddy White.

[Mike Wright]

Oh no.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he looks like Roddy at the end of the career. I mean I look, he's, he's, he's done.

[Mike Wright]

It didn't. And Humphreys had over 100.

[Jason Moore]

Been good on the season and he looked great in preseason.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys have Humphreys in your rankings?

[Mike Wright]

I did, I did.

[Andy Holloway]

That's Good. Running backs. LeGarrett Blunt, we talked about Thursday night already two touchdowns. I think for me I said this. I don't even remember the context of where I said it, but I am selling leguerra. I think somebody just wrote in and asked me, what do you think of Blunt? I'M like, sell him. And here's why. When Brady returns, Blunt will still have a game or two like he did last year where it's three touchdowns because they decide to feature him. But what they're not doing with the offense right now in the carousel of quarterback play is they're not implementing the passing down James White. Heavy utilization out of the backfield. You don't see that right now because it's better to lean on the volume and the defense. I think he's a great sell high. If somebody's willing to pay you. Now, look, if they're not going to give you the value you're supposed to have, I think you're fine with Blunt rest of the year. But if they pay you running back one value because he's a running back top five guy, right now, I'm selling him. Do you disagree with me?

[Mike Wright]

No, I can agree with that. If you're going to get the value. Otherwise, you know that Legera Blunt is a great start this week. He's going to be great until Brady is back. Which brings up a good another psa. We got to do it for me. And Jason was talking about this as well. By Julian Edelman. Yes, by Tom Brady. Right now. Tom Brady still has another week, so it's possible that that owner who drafted him is By Gronk. Yeah, by Gronk, if you can.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm just saying all of the passing. Yeah, exactly. After the goose egg he played. See if you can get him buy.

[Andy Holloway]

Orders for all Patriots.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, that's what we're saying.

[Andy Holloway]

And maybe a sell for Blunt.

[Jason Moore]

How about David Johnson? Did you know that he is, after three weeks, the number one running back in fantasy football? This third week has not completed.

[Andy Holloway]

Who is that?

[Jason Moore]

David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

It had been a while. When he does well, he deserves the song.

[Mike Wright]

Sure, sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Now David Johnson did well, but the team is struggling.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was. It was a really bad week on.

[Jason Moore]

The road against Buffaloes are really playing down to their competition. I mean because even though you could say week one it was like, oh, it's the Patriots. But it was. I mean we had one of the largest lines. The, you know, you, you had no Brady, you had no Gronk, you had no offensive line. I think they were missing like three of their offensive linemen. It was just assumed the Cardinals were going to win and they came out flat. And let me ask you, against the.

[Andy Holloway]

Bills, if the Cardinals lose at home next week against the 2 and 1 LA Rams, will this show ever. Will we do it? I mean, is it over? Is the show done?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think everyone in the world needs to root for the Arizona Cardinals if they want.

[Andy Holloway]

If they want the show us to be alive.

[Mike Wright]

My buddy was talking to me about this. Did Carson Palmer, did he get full on Jake Delomed in the playoffs of where. What I mean by that is the Cardinals went into Carolina in 2008, destroyed Jake Delome. His career was done after that and he was. He was playing very well. Carson Palmer has that game against the Panthers and his just 2/3 of this.

[Andy Holloway]

Year is very hot. It's very possible I want to chalk.

[Mike Wright]

It up to just a couple bad games.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and the fact that there is a with John Brown coming back now John Brown had a good game this week, but he was only 57% of the snap count. And I want to believe that there is a game plan problem here where he is just does not look on the same page. One, one interception came because of David Johnson. One interception came because of Michael Floyd. But there are so many of these plays where you don't know who's wrong. Is it Palmer or is it the wide receiver?

[Jason Moore]

And the third, the third interception because he had three interceptions. That third one was an unbelievable defensive play. So. So I don't think Carson Palmer has been Jake Delomed. I think that this game just went really poor at home for the Bills. They got up for the game.

[Mike Wright]

Well, back to positivity. LaShawn McCoy.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, there you are.

[Mike Wright]

Shady showed us some. Some just. Oh man, he was unbelievable.

[Andy Holloway]

17 for 110, two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Amazingly elusive. He showed why you start Shady every single week, even in a what is considered to be a bad matchup because he gets the volume and he can get it done like this.

[Andy Holloway]

DeMarco Murray, big game 16, 114 and a touchdown. 5 for 41 through the air. Absolutely. The feature back there and somebody that we all had rated very high this week, Darren Sprolls, or as I like to call him, the running back version of Tyler Lockett where you never know when to start.

[Mike Wright]

The guy, when we've been asked is, is Darren Sprouls the heart ring now.

[Andy Holloway]

As opposed to Beasley?

[Mike Wright]

Cole Beasley.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think, I think Sprouls was the OG heart ring. I mean he's been heart wringing for.

[Mike Wright]

He passed it to Danny Woodhead.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean he bequeathed it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I completely agree.

[Andy Holloway]

But if Woodhead gets hurt, maybe Sprouls. I know, I know. I'm saying, does it go back to. That's fair. I think that's fair. I mean OG Hartring, Jaren Sprouls, Jeremy Hill. What? What?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was on. He was on two of my benches.

[Andy Holloway]

What's his start percentage this past week?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it has to be minimal. Jeremy here going up against one of the best rush defenses in the league and you go off for almost 100 yards, two touchdowns. This is a great moment for people that own Jeremy Hill for his value to be high. For me, I am now. I have been trying to trade Jeremy Hill and his value has been too low. I think that there are going to be people willing to buy him now.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

Todd Gurley, 27 for 85 and two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome back. Todd Gurley.

[Andy Holloway]

Carlos Hyde 21 for 103 and two touchdowns. That's a good game. That's a really good game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, surprise, surprise, garbage man.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I had him rated really low this week going into Seattle. Yeah, tight ends. Travis Kelsey went deuce. Oh, his dance was so good. Did you see Travis Kelsey's dance?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Six for 89 and a touchdown. There's no more styling player in the league than Travis Kelsey.

[Mike Wright]

When he, when he gets featured, it is so great.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of great. Yeah, braid, Braid is great.

[Jason Moore]

And the nice thing about braid, we all, all three of us moved him very high up in our rankings. After the ASJ news. After the ASJ dui, Austin Sferrian Jenkins was cut. And that's what I love. I had a problem with both of these guys because they were eating into one another's targets. Now that Cameron Bright is the only guy, I think he is a rosterable almost weekly starter going forward until proven Otherwise. He had five for 46, two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

He had four end zone targets.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, if you're trying to just find a tight end who might score a touchdown every single week there. The love connection between Jameis Winston and his tight end goes all the way back to college. He likes to look for the tight end. So if gamer Brady is that guy, maybe you get a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

We are, we're behind clockwise today, so I'm going to give you. I'm just going to throw out some honorable mentions because when we don't say a guy that succeeded, we hear about it on Twitter. So I'm going to throw out some honorable mentions here. Lacey Vereen, Sterling Shepard, Jameson Crowder, Desean Jackson, Demary Thomas and Tavon Austin all had good weeks. You also had huge. Huge. Speaking of which, that's tonight, by the way. There's a presidential debate. So huge defensive performances by the Chiefs.

[Mike Wright]

And the Viking by the Vikings. They're on your waiver wire, I imagine. Pick them up, start them every single week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's move on.

[Jason Moore]

Raising canes rising stars of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Raising canes rising stars of the week. I'm kicking it off. I never think. I never thought I would say this. I also never think I would say this. To put it as Jason would. Terrell Pryor.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, Nando.

[Andy Holloway]

Rising star. And here's why. And I. And I say this for at least next week. He is now the centerpiece of an offense in all three phases of the game. He gets snaps at quarterback, which can make his points rise very quickly. Without Corey Coleman and without Josh Gordon for at least one more week, he's definitely worth his start because he's so central to what the Rams, to what the Browns are doing right now that it just what a week for Terrell Pryor, you know, to put up 144, you know, receiving yards and then get opportunities behind center to run the ball. You know, he has that. That record for the longest touchdown run from a quarterback when he was with Oakland. He can do it all. He's an athlete extraordinaire. So I think trial Pryor as a rising star right now is somebody you can roll in there.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receivers right now if you need a weekly play. And I believe we're coming up on bye weeks. Terrell Pryor is a great addition for this week, and if he goes off again this next week, which I could see him doing, that is where I would trade him. I want him one more week and then I would trade.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. I might go long haul with.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Gordon returning will not get rid of Prior's value in its entirety. So I'm curious to see what happens. It all depends on if McCown's back sooner than later, which they're saying he may be. That will change the.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The equation more than Gordon for me. So that's it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You know what I'm going with. You know, I'm going with the woke one. Chris and Michael. I've been waiting for this forever in a legal obligation.

[Andy Holloway]

I've designed your soul over to him.

[Mike Wright]

I talked about it at the beginning that Pete Carroll plays the best players on his team. We saw Matt Flynn come in and sign for millions and millions of dollars. They draft Russell Wilson the third round. They said, okay, Matt Flynn, get out of here because we don't need you. This third round quarterback is going to be our starter. And Christian Michael has been great. They talked about him all offseason. The Awakening. You watch him with your eyeballs. And Christian Michael looks like a next level of running back. He was playing behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league. No one else is getting it done for them except from the running back position besides Kristen. Michael, why would you move away from him? So he's my rising star this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, he certainly passes my eyeball test and I am Mr. Anti Michael. I don't believe he's. I think that him and Rawls are going to eat into their carry long term. But I wouldn't be surprised if they're like, hey, Rawls, take your time, take your time. Get healthy. We got C, Mike. My rising star this week is Marvin Jones. Marvin, he has to be there. He's going to get me wet. I had a water bet before the season of a golden tape versus Marvin Jones. I'm going to go ahead and say it three weeks in. I'm getting wet because Marvin Jones is legit. He is currently the number one wide receiver in all of fantasy football. I'm happy that despite my water bet against him, we, we recommended him a lot before the year. So hopefully the Foot clan are enjoying their shares of Marvin Jones. I mean, he won't be able to be on the raising canes rising stars next week because he's, he's there.

[Mike Wright]

He will be arisen.

[Andy Holloway]

He's arisen.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

There were the rising stars. That's it. I wanted an honorable mention for Hilton because he dominated and I wonder without Moncrief if Hilton is a buy candidate.

[Mike Wright]

It's gonna be expensive. And we talked about how delicious the stud muffins are. But nothing's more delicious than raising canes.

[Andy Holloway]

Rising stars of the week. So remember, game day always tastes better with raising canes tailgates full of fresh 24 hour marinated hand battered chicken fingers and fresh brewed sweet tea.

[Jason Moore]

So sweet tea is good.

[Andy Holloway]

Check out raising canes.com youm'll be able to find your nearest location.

[Mike Wright]

The tweets coming in. People are like, I'm getting pictures of people and they're getting their. Their combos and letting me know how good they are. And I'm loving every minute of it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I kind of think we should probably do that for lunch today.

[Jason Moore]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, there are some bad ones.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not sure that segments timed up appropriately.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, these things happen.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's run through. We're going to have to make up some time here. And you know what? I don't like dwelling on the. On the poor play of anybody. But you have to dwell on Ryan Pitts, Patrick or picks Patrick. Is that what I saw? Six interceptions from Ryan Fitzpatrick did his best. Matt Ryan in the red zone. Impression from last year. It was a terrible performance. Ryan Fitzpatrick is. This is what he is. This is what he is. He will give you solid play from week to week and he will do just enough to help you not make the playoffs because this was pathetic. They could have won this game. They were down two scores for the last half of this game.

[Mike Wright]

How do you know?

[Jason Moore]

I played the Jets D and they were good. Except they weren't good because the offense kept turning the ball over and putting them in bad situations.

[Mike Wright]

How do you not pull him?

[Jason Moore]

Good thing they didn't have Gino as their starter, huh?

[Andy Holloway]

No, listen.

[Mike Wright]

How do you not pull him?

[Andy Holloway]

Jason brought something up I want to talk about and I think we might want to change this in our league of record. I'm going to bring it up to a vote next year. You just said you played the Jets D and what did they suffer from? They suffered from the pick sixes. Right. I think that our defensive scoring in our league should be yardage based.

[Mike Wright]

That's funny.

[Andy Holloway]

And that is it.

[Mike Wright]

We went to that in my. In my keeper money league we took out defensive scoring because it just sucked. It's only yards because look, I had.

[Andy Holloway]

Houston's D on Thursday. You saw the special teams two fumbles on kickoffs. All of a sudden the Houston D is in the red zone already. What are you going to do now?

[Jason Moore]

To be fair, those. Those are usually listed as defense slash special teams. So that's kind of. That's on them.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, fair point. Fair point. But my. There have been a pick six. If Case Keenum throws the ball into the flat and it gets returned by Tampa. The fact that count the Rams against the Rams defense is ridiculous to me. It should be yardage based. That's what I say. All right. Carson Palmer, we already talked about this. Disaster of a game killed you as a fantasy owner.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was super high for me this week and he stunk.

[Andy Holloway]

Marcus Mariota had a pathetic game.

[Mike Wright]

I'm done with all Titans except for demarco Murray. I'm just. I'm done. If you can't get it. If you can't get it done against the Raiders who have been through the first two weeks, have put up historically bad numbers. If you cannot get it done against them, I'm not playing you. I'm not ranking you highly.

[Jason Moore]

Mariota Stonk Sharp. Done with you. I think that their. Their offense did hurt more than expected from the slightly surprising missing of Delaney Walker. I expected him to play as the week went on, but, yeah, he was.

[Andy Holloway]

A Sunday surprise out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So, you know, everyone needed to move down because of that.

[Andy Holloway]

Did we talk. I hate to go back, but did we talk about the fact that Russell Wilson had an MCL sprain?

[Mike Wright]

No, we said he had a knee injury and was going to get an mri.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he has an MCL sprain. And so. Goodness. I mean, he's really tough for me because I drafted him in a lot of leagues. I don't know whether to play him without the mobility or not.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Ben Roethlisberger.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, I mean, just called it. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

No, there's nothing else to say. Terrible game. Brock Osweiler. Those are the guys that stunk this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. At running back, you got the announcement that Matt Aziata was going to get the start.

[Jason Moore]

That made a lot of people move him into their starting lineups and Sadly.

[Mike Wright]

And then McKinnon got all the work well.

[Andy Holloway]

And stunk.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Six for 15.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I think better days are coming for asiata, though.

[Andy Holloway]

So T.J. eldon and Chris Ivory are both in this. Pooped in their big boy pants. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You cannot play any Jaguars running back.

[Andy Holloway]

12 for 14 for Chris Ivory. Is that good?

[Mike Wright]

No, it's better than Yelden, but it's.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's actually no better than. It was worse than yeld.

[Andy Holloway]

Yelden was 6 for 17. So they combined for. What is that, 18 for 31 yards.

[Jason Moore]

Correct. Impressive.

[Andy Holloway]

Really good running game, Good math.

[Jason Moore]

It's impressive with those kind of numbers that they could actually get to 18 total carries.

[Andy Holloway]

People probably lost this week due to D'Angelo Williams and CJ Anderson, who both had very poor performances. D Will game script, all that did not go in their direction, and he wasn't very good. And then C.J. anderson, 14 for 37. You know, we talked about it on the road. It was a Simeon show.

[Jason Moore]

This is why I agree with Mike that there's an. It's an more of an outlier for Emmanuel Sanders because I don't expect this to be the Trevor Simeon led Broncos. I expect this to be the C.J. anderson. He did get 14 carries. It was a tough, tough matchup there with the Bengals.

[Andy Holloway]

It really was.

[Mike Wright]

And those of you who had Spencer Ware and you were loving that touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that stunk.

[Mike Wright]

And then it turned into a fumble.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you see espn? Their system messed up when that happened. So it showed. It showed. Spencer Warehead ran 94 yards backwards and then fumbled. So if you, if you. For about a 10 minute period, I had like negative 3.5 points for Spencer Ware on the day and a fumble. And so I assumed, because I was following that game on the phone and watching another game, I assumed that the touchdown head was going to stand and all of a sudden I look and Spencer Ware has no. You know, he's really good though, man.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he's very good.

[Andy Holloway]

Is really good. And you know, Char west is just not.

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

So we'll see what happens with Jamal Charles next week or where it could get another start. Lots of wide receivers let you down. I went out on a limb and told you not to start Stefan Diggs this week because I just. It was time for that to come down against Carolina. Now. They won the game, but he was only 4 for 40. This is the thing that's going to happen with Diggs. I just cannot buy into him as an upper echelon guy. I think he's an upper echelon talent in a system that won't allow it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's a wide receiver too for fantasy over the course of the year because they'll have good matchups, he'll have bad matchups and he's not going to have enough volume to ever take him into that wide receiver one range.

[Mike Wright]

Would you. He's a weekly flex play for me though.

[Jason Moore]

He's a weekly flex consideration. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Last week was all about the Benjamins. This week not so much. Travis Benjamin 2 for 19. Calvin Benjamin 0 for 0.

[Mike Wright]

That Kelvin Benjamin, that's. That's the. Takes the cake.

[Jason Moore]

I'll tell you right now. For me, I'm going and trying to buy Kelvin Benjamin after a 0 for 0. The Minnesota Vikings defense are not who the Carolina Panthers are going to play every week. Cam had no time to develop anything.

[Andy Holloway]

Kelvin, he got punched in the mouth.

[Jason Moore]

This is a great time. Look, you put up a goose egg. That's awful. Owners hate that and so many owners react way too much. So don't pay up for him, but see if you can trade him on the cheap.

[Andy Holloway]

Not every day you see only four receptions from Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall combined.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, did you see the stat?

[Andy Holloway]

So the stat, the stat by Jason.

[Jason Moore]

And Brandon Marshall combined for. What was it, 58 yards and four receptions. The Kansas City DBs combined for five receptions and 56 yards and a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

My goodness.

[Jason Moore]

So Ryan Fitzpatrick actually had a better day throwing to Kansas City DBs than he did to Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall.

[Andy Holloway]

That is amazing.

[Mike Wright]

Hilarious.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy Macklin did not have a good game. 4 for 35. He had two plays on back to back plays that both look like they were going to be huge gainers. Maybe a touchdown on one of them. One bounced off the shoulder pads, the other he didn't get his head around on. A little bit uncharacteristic of Jeremy Macklin, but not a good game for him. Then DeAndre Hopkins, 4 for 56, but we already talked about him. And Fuller didn't get it going. This was, you know, if you look at every one of these, you know, the teams just couldn't get anything going. These are all loser teams. I mean, the jets lost, you know, the San Diego lost. I guess not all of them. Macklin struggled in a winning effort, but most of them were game script and losing teams. Tight ends that stunk this week. Not a lot. I mean, really, the guys that were out there performed. Jason Whitten let you down. He didn't do much last night. Julius Thomas didn't do anything. I don't think you were expecting much from Bennett if Gronk was back.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and also with Beef Brissette as your quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Honorable poopers. Tanjay Sharpe was only 3 for 48. I expected more from him this week. Philip Dorset, nothing. Yeah, really expected more from him. And then Golden Tate for 440, starting to fall down the range on a weekly basis.

[Mike Wright]

What do you do with Golden Tate?

[Jason Moore]

You hold them.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that. Is that the. What's the opposite of staying in the flames?

[Mike Wright]

Something in the ice. He's frozen over.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You hold on to Golden Tate. If you look at his total target numbers, you know, he had six targets, he had good targets the week before and. And the week before he had some downfield targets, but you can't start them right now. You can't trade them, you can't cut them. So I think you have to hold them. If. Yeah, I was, I was going to try to say, you know, would I drop Golden Tate for some waiver wire?

[Andy Holloway]

Would you drop Will Fuller, Golden Tate rest of season.

[Mike Wright]

Breaking news. Hit the button.

[Jason Moore]

Breaking news.

[Mike Wright]

Peach cobbler says Thomas Rawls will miss multiple weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Un freaking believable.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

My life can't get any better here.

[Andy Holloway]

Thomas, did you hear that? Did you hear Mike? Celebrating your injury?

[Mike Wright]

I'm not celebrating his injury. I'm celebrating his missed time, which.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Just go take a victory.

[Andy Holloway]

Not to mention, you mix that with Russell Wilson's limited mobility and all of a sudden you have A perfect storm.

[Mike Wright]

I know. Who's in Seattle?

[Andy Holloway]

Clooney.

[Mike Wright]

Clooney and Marky Mark. They're booking their flights.

[Andy Holloway]

Are they ordering? Jason Moore's at the local establishment? I cannot believe the amount of. If you. I cannot believe the amount of tweets we've had. There was a tweet from a receipt in Amsterdam.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that was the best.

[Andy Holloway]

Where he ordered a Jason Moore and it was $5.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. See, the thing is, is it's like.

[Mike Wright]

That'S a high class.

[Jason Moore]

When you go to the places where you're making, you know, you're making your drinks. Try it out. The Jason Moore, you got the half Sprite, the half Lemonade. That's great. But it's got to be a place where you order if we're gonna really proliferate this brand.

[Andy Holloway]

And do you know, I mean.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I know.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you hear Arnold Palmer passed away?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was gonna say we gotta. Gotta give a shout out to the OG Drank.

[Jason Moore]

The OG Drank.

[Andy Holloway]

Arnold Palmer was an amazing man, too. I mean, just an amazing golfer. Amazing man. And he originated his own drink. You would be so lucky to be 1/100th of the man that Arnold Palmer is.

[Jason Moore]

If I can have one. One.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, not physically. You're at least two times the man that he was. But that's how you humble a man who has a drink named after him now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you okay?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, I'm good.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you make it through the gauntlet of whatever was just said out loud?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, last thoughts here. Preview the Monday night game. You expect big things tonight. I don't. I would take.

[Mike Wright]

You don't.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't. No, I don't. Willie, you've got.

[Jason Moore]

Being out hurts.

[Andy Holloway]

You've got Willie Snead out. You have had okay performances from the Falcons defense this year. It's a divisional game. Julio Jones is banged up even though he's playing. I'm going to take the under tonight. I don't even know what the over.

[Mike Wright]

Is, but it's the highest of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Dude, out. I'm just throwing it out.

[Mike Wright]

That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

I don't. I don't blame you on that. With. I'll probably be wrong with Willie Snead being out with this is the time Julio being a little hurt. I still think there's going to be enough points put up where you're going to have a lot of good production from a lot of pieces. Brandon Cook should go off and I'm going to go ahead and call it. Yes, I think I think we see Fleener start to step into that role. I think he's going to have a good game.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm saying if Fleener does not have a good game, I'm cutting bait tonight.

[Jason Moore]

Or 4 for 55 and hopefully a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's not good enough. That's not good enough for what you want to see?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm cutting him if I get that.

[Mike Wright]

I'm with Andy.

[Jason Moore]

You're cutting him if you get 4 for 55 and a touchdown. No, you're not.

[Mike Wright]

That's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Starting them. Gary Barnes. Okay, let's say he gets 4 for 55. Would you rather have Barnage or Fleena next week? Yeah, you're just saying that.

[Jason Moore]

I'm sure.

[Mike Wright]

4 for 55 in a touchdown. We'll put him as a top.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay. With a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

That's what he said.

[Andy Holloway]

He said hopefully a touchdown. Oh, I was saying maybe if it was 4 for 55, I'm not very happy. He's. He's no Josh Hill, no Willie Snead. If you don't do it tonight, buddy.

[Mike Wright]

This is the time.

[Andy Holloway]

Fleener, you've cut your hair off.

[Mike Wright]

Reverse. Sampson, you've cut your hair.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're done. This show, this show's over. Thank you for listening. Check out jointhefoot.com to get a become a part of our community and we'll talk to you tomorrow.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Tomorrow we'll have our streams and waivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Waivers, yes. Don't miss it. Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

See ya.

[Jason Moore]

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