Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - MEGALODON Episode - Week 12 Matchups, Trade Tips, Starts, + Much More!

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: MEGALODON Episode - Week 12 Matchups, Trade Tips, Starts, + Much More!
Release Date: November 23, 2016

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Introduction

In this special Megalodon episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve deep into the world of fantasy football, providing listeners with comprehensive analysis, strategic insights, and actionable advice to dominate their leagues during the crucial Thanksgiving weekend.

Ethics of Throwing Games [04:20 - 09:05]

The episode kicks off with a thought-provoking discussion on the ethics of intentionally losing games to manipulate playoff outcomes. A listener poses the question:

Andy Holloway [04:20]: "Is it wrong if I throw my next games to keep someone out of the playoffs?"

Jason Moore [05:50]: "It is wrong to throw it, but it is not wrong to field. Not your optimal lineup."

The trio debates the integrity of such strategies, ultimately concluding that while optimizing your lineup within the rules is acceptable, deliberately losing games crosses an ethical line. They emphasize the importance of maintaining integrity and fairness in league play.

Pump the Brakes Segment [10:50 - 15:08]

Sponsored by O'Reilly Auto Parts, the Pump the Brakes segment focuses on players who may have peaked or are entering tough matchups. This week:

• Jason Moore [11:11]: "I'm pumping the brakes on Jared Cook because... he's got the worst schedule imaginable for tight ends the rest of this season."

• Andy Holloway [12:53]: "I'm pumping the brakes on James White... he's progressively going to lose snaps."

• Mike Wright [13:44]: "Terrell Pryor has to take on The Giants... not expecting high-level production immediately."

The hosts advise listeners to exercise caution with these players, suggesting they might not deliver the expected fantasy points in upcoming weeks.

News and Player Updates [15:08 - 21:44]

The News and Notes segment provides updates on player statuses and injuries:

• Sammy Watkins: Returning to practice but uncertain whether to start him this week.

• Rob Gronkowski: Not expected to play against the Jets, affecting tight end strategies.

• Andrew Luck: Did not practice and is unlikely to play Thursday's game.

• Robert Griffin III: Designated for return; expected to play next week.

• Mark Ingram: Out of concussion protocol and returning.

• Ryan Matthews & Darren Sprouls: Injuries affecting their availability.

The hosts discuss how these updates impact fantasy lineups, advising on potential starts and sits based on player availability and team needs.

Thanksgiving Day Matchup Previews [23:09 - 85:43]

As Thanksgiving approaches, the hosts preview key matchups, offering recommendations on which players to start or sit:

Vikings vs. Lions

• Andy Holloway [23:54]: "I feel very confident about starting Eric Ebron at the tight end position in this game."

• Jason Moore [26:15]: Advises against starting Vikings' running back due to the Lions' defensive strength.

Redskins vs. Cowboys

• Jason Moore [28:44]: "Start Dak Prescott over Big Ben Roethlisberger."

• Andy Holloway [31:33]: Highlights the Redskins' ability to cover points and praises Rob Kelly's consistent performance.

Steelers vs. Colts

• Andy Holloway [33:01]: "Big Ben is my start of the week at quarterback position."

• Jason Moore [35:03]: Suggests caution with Frank Gore based on the Colts' defensive prowess.

Cardinals vs. Falcons

• Jason Moore [40:30]: "Carson Palmer is going to be slinging it around. Happy to start him."

• Andy Holloway [42:19]: Recommends starting Muhammad Sanu over Taylor Gabriel due to health and matchup considerations.

Bengals vs. Ravens

• Jason Moore [43:39]: "I would still start Jeremy Hill just because of necessary volume."

• Andy Holloway [44:50]: Advocates for starting Steve Smith Sr. over Brandon Marshall for consistency.

Packers vs. Eagles

• Andy Holloway [63:26]: "I'm going with the over."

• Jason Moore [99:04]: "I'm going to take the under."

The hosts provide nuanced strategies based on team defenses, player health, and matchup specifics, aiming to maximize fantasy points for their listeners.

Steaming Hot Trade Tips [56:20 - 62:48]

Focused on navigating the trade deadline, the hosts share strategies to enhance fantasy rosters:

• Jason Moore [56:47]: Emphasizes trading for teams in need rather than targeting specific players.
  "Don't trade for players, trade for teams."

• Andy Holloway [58:53]: Advocates for quality over quantity, encouraging trades that bring superstar players to win crucial weeks.
  "Now's the time to cash in on some of that... take advantage of 2 for 1 and 3 for 1s on hurting teams."

• Mike Wright [60:35]: Recommends not being stingy and being willing to give up depth for key playoff contributors.
  "If you are getting a key cog for the playoff run, would an example of..."

Together, they stress the importance of strategic trading to bolster teams for the impending playoff push.

Fantasy Forecast & Weekly Starts/Sits [63:20 - 121:54]

In the Fantasy Forecast, the hosts outline their recommendations for player starts and sits across various positions, integrating matchup analysis and player performance trends.

Key Recommendations Include:

• Josh McCown vs. Colts: Consider streaming quarterbacks based on Colts' defensive weaknesses.
• Robert Griffin III: Expected to play, potential start depending on the matchup.
• Gary Barnage vs. Giants: Flexible start based on team needs.
• Julian Edelman vs. Jets: Highlighted as a strong start due to increased targets.
• Zach Ertz vs. Packers: Recommended as a must-start tight end.
• Kyle Rudolph vs. Lions: Favorable matchup making him a solid start.
• Derek Carr vs. Panthers: Suggested starting quarterback based on favorable conditions.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore [117:39]: "Julian Edelman... definitely starting him."

• Andy Holloway [118:07]: "I'm going with Rashad Jennings. Cleveland's given up eight touchdowns in the last five games to running backs."

• Mike Wright [121:15]: "Derek Carr is at home... I'm going to send in the car with no hesitation this week."

The detailed analysis provides listeners with actionable insights to optimize their weekly lineups, emphasizing the importance of matchup exploitation and player consistency.

Conclusion

Wrapping up the Megalodon episode, the hosts reinforce the importance of strategic decision-making in fantasy football, especially during pivotal weeks like Thanksgiving. They encourage listeners to engage with their community, utilize the advice provided, and stay informed through continuous player updates and matchup analyses.

Andy Holloway [123:42]: "Enjoy your sourdough Jack. Wait till you see the rest of the forecast."

Listeners are reminded to join the Fantasy Footballers community for ongoing support and to participate in exclusive giveaways, ensuring they remain competitive and informed throughout the fantasy season.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway [04:20]: "Is it wrong if I throw my next games to keep someone out of the playoffs?"

• Jason Moore [56:47]: "Don't trade for players, trade for teams."

• Andy Holloway [58:53]: "Quality over quantity... take advantage of 2 for 1 and 3 for 1s on hurting teams."

• Jason Moore [117:39]: "Julian Edelman... definitely starting him."

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This episode serves as an essential guide for fantasy football enthusiasts looking to navigate the complexities of mid-season management, offering expert advice to enhance their chances of securing playoff spots and ultimately winning their leagues.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you ready for the Megalodon?

[Mike Wright]

I'm working on some breathing techniques, storing energy.

[Andy Holloway]

I pulled up to the studio in my Rolls Royce this morning.

[Jason Moore]

Stop. Stop it.

[Mike Wright]

The Wonka machine.

[Jason Moore]

You're making. You're making the Rolls Royce sound like a. Like a children's toy.

[Andy Holloway]

I am excited. Thanksgiving is upon us. Plenty to be thankful for inside. And outside of the fantasy football sphere, we are the fantasy footballers.

[Mike Wright]

This fantasy football sphere. Yeah, okay.

[Jason Moore]

Makes sense. I was with him.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just words, vocabulary.

[Jason Moore]

It sounded perfect to me.

[Mike Wright]

It sounded good to this guy within.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's a bad sign. Let me just say one thing, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

We're starting the show with that.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're gonna question my vocabulary. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Do you have.

[Andy Holloway]

We're watching your verification.

[Mike Wright]

Let me check.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, you're. You're checking yourself now.

[Mike Wright]

Is Mike verified calm.

[Andy Holloway]

You know how you know he's not verified yet? Because there hasn't been a parade down the street. Welcome to the episode. Oh, my goodness. I mean, this is. It's November 23rd, Thanksgiving's tomorrow, and we've got you covered through the entire four day weekend. I mean, it's gonna take you the.

[Mike Wright]

Whole time to listen to this show.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll see. We'll see how that goes.

[Jason Moore]

What all we got on today's show? Tell. Tell the people what all we're covering.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. We've got pump the breaks. We have all the news. We have our fantasy forecasts, the Thanksgiving Day games, and every other game this entire week. We have some steaming hot trade tips.

[Mike Wright]

Okay?

[Andy Holloway]

Trade deadlines for a lot of leagues are coming up this week, and people want to know what we think about last Minute trades. How do you look at trading now versus the beginning of the season? We have steaming hot trade tips. We have our starts of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Everything is on this show.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, don't forget we've got all of our giveaway stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, sure, yeah. With Megalodon, giveaway is over.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So we've, we've. Those winners have been picked. You can see those on the website as well. It is jam packed. We're excited. I think we're caffeinated properly.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

So hop into the sphere with us and we'll get started here in just a second. Oh, by the way, there are a ton of awesome articles on the website. The fantasy footballers.com including Turkey Day awards, fanduel picks for Thanksgiving day games, starts of the week and the matchups. And all the stuff we talk about on the show will be up there. It's just. It's just gonna be amazing.

[Mike Wright]

All I can think about now is that Sam Jackson movie, the Sphere.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's the Michael Crichton book. It's not the Sam Jackson movie.

[Mike Wright]

I believe it's the Sam Jackson movie.

[Andy Holloway]

I loved, loved that book that was like. Remember when you had to buy audio books and they were like $45.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you bought all the tapes. One of the first ones I ever had was Sphere and I remember listening to that over and over again. Ed Asner would read the book. Great book. Anyways, moving on. Quick question of the day. My playoff spot. This is from a listener. He says my playoff spot is secure. This is an ethics question.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it wrong if I throw my next games to keep someone out of the playoffs? By that I mean purposely losing to allow weaker opponents into the playoffs. I have a strong feeling on, on this one, but you guys probably have the same one, so go ahead and speak. What are you guys in question?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I do. I genuinely question because. No, no, no, let's talk this through. Okay. Because I imagine that your answer is that you can't lose games. You cannot. Is that your answer?

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so let.

[Andy Holloway]

My answer is that, you know, each man needs to look at his own integrity and make a decision based off of that.

[Jason Moore]

Sure, sure, sure. Okay, so let me ask you this though, because this is a game that we're playing based on a set of rules that you know, the league formation and the players and the rosters and all that. And you've got to play within this rule set to try to win. Now if you know that one of your opponents that is going to beat you in the playoffs is out there and. And you can help avoid meeting them. Aren't you still playing by the rules? Now, you included in the rules is you have to start a roster, right? You have to start a quarterback. You can't bench your team or anything like that. But if you put together a team that you think helps you win the championship, aren't you still doing what is right so long as you're starting a roster?

[Andy Holloway]

There is a line between. If you don't want to go out and sign a streaming defense and compete in that way because you know you've made the playoffs, that's. That's okay to me. But I mean, this. This. This applies to every major sport that exists right now. There are those conundrums in every sport. You know, I'm not going to play my player. I made the playoffs. So I'm going to sit on my stars for the next two weeks and let all these other. Here's all you do. All you got to do is this. Jay. Ready?

[Jason Moore]

And I.

[Andy Holloway]

And I appreciate the devil's advocate. All you have to do is put yourself in the other person's shoes, put yourself in the shoes of the other team trying to make the playoffs, and now you're throwing a game to keep them out.

[Jason Moore]

And if I was that other team, I would say, man, I'm really hoping this team wins because I need to get in. I mean, I would. I would want them to not do it, but that's not. I mean, I don't make my decisions based on, like, if I'm playing you. If I put myself in your shoes, I would want you to win, but I don't want you to win. I mean that. You just can't use that logic all the time.

[Andy Holloway]

You can use the logic of if. What if I did that to you in our league of record? What if you needed me to beat an opponent on the last day of the year?

[Jason Moore]

Which you do, I promise you.

[Andy Holloway]

But I throw the game to keep you out.

[Jason Moore]

That's tough.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'll go ahead and do it if you think it's.

[Jason Moore]

No, I know you will because you hate me.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I do not hate.

[Jason Moore]

All right, no, we love each other. But going back to what you said, this happens in the real world, in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

I was gonna bring up Greg Popovich.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like he was fined by the NBA for doing it. So the NBA found it to be an unethical type of.

[Mike Wright]

You think Greg Popovich cares?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

When he says kiss the ring.

[Andy Holloway]

You heard my opinion. I don't need to go I'm just saying it's.

[Jason Moore]

It happens in the real. And you brought it up.

[Andy Holloway]

Doesn't happen like that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it happens all. Every, Every single year in the NBA. Teams are tanking.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a difference. This is not a strategic move to get another team into the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to say I feel like I have. I could be completely wrong, but I feel like I have a memory of the spurs where it. Maybe they didn't try to lose because they bench players to rest them, quote unquote, but it's in a particular matchup that is. That would lead to a better playoff seed.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So Greg Popovich is your standard of ethics across all sports. And Greg Popovich is. That's really good.

[Mike Wright]

One of the best coaches.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't have to go on because I know what the. You love. I know what the poll would look like. Yeah. And I don't agree with any of the things you guys are both saying. So what is your final verdict? Are you just playing devil's advocate? Are you honestly saying you would throw a game on purpose to mine as a strategy?

[Jason Moore]

My final.

[Andy Holloway]

Not in a million years would I do that.

[Jason Moore]

My. Well, that's good to know because we're in this situation. My final verdict is that if you are fielding a playing roster and that that's what you need to do. But if you choose to start someone maybe with a worse matchup over someone with a better matchup, and that's what you want to do. I think it is. Okay. It's within the rules.

[Andy Holloway]

Slippery slope, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

It's definitely a slippery slope. I'm still going to play my best team.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, put it this way. Let's say you really want to take it to the extreme. Let's say you want to take it to the extreme and be like, oh, I'm going to go sign these guys that are going to stink. You got to cut good players to sign bad. You're just hurting yourself.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it wrong? Here's the question. Is it wrong to throw my next week's game to keep somebody out?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, it is wrong to throw it, but it is not wrong to field. Not your optimal lineup.

[Mike Wright]

You gotta rest your rest your good.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We must move on. This is the Megalodon.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's why I'm fine talking about it.

[Andy Holloway]

And I think you're Megalodon.

[Jason Moore]

There is no limit to the amount of words that come out of my mouth on this show. I'm gonna. This show will be 17 hours.

[Andy Holloway]

The Jason Morrism's account is Gonna go crazy. All right, before we get into pump the brakes, I want to remind everybody about our Twitter @ the FF Ballers. We might put a poll up just to see what you guys think about that question because I did not expect it to be as heated as it was. I expected it to be straight and narrow, but I was wrong.

[Jason Moore]

Not on Megalodon, bro.

[Andy Holloway]

You can check the website out the fantasy footballers.com and absolutely join [e-mail] our fantasy football community with tons of perks and special giveaways and things going on over there all the time. It is a fun community be a part of. And you know, as we get into next season, we have foot clan only leagues. So you get in with great listeners of the show that may or may not throw this week's game to get you in and out of.

[Mike Wright]

We've heard plenty of commissioner horror stories of people just changing rules in the middle of the season to benefit their commissioners.

[Jason Moore]

I had someone email that will not happen. I had someone email in today saying they really want to be in a keeper league but they can't convince their either of their leagues all with the same guys to go to a keeper league. And I gave them some advice on how to maybe convince them and if that fails, footclan leagues.com bro. Find, find out.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. That's right. All right. You know, it is Wednesday And Wednesday means one thing.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Alright, pump the brakes with O'Reilly Auto Parts today, we've each picked out one guy, one guy that we're pumping the brakes on. I'm going to kick it to Jason. Yeah. Who's your pump the brakes guy this week?

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to say I'm going to give a good old Whoa Nelly, slow down on Jared Cook.

[Mike Wright]

Is this a pump the brakes or a pullback on the, on the reins?

[Andy Holloway]

It doesn't. It's all the same either way.

[Jason Moore]

The wheels, if there's a carriage, they're stopping here because I am going to say Jared Cook. I'm pumping the brakes because we have a history, a long history of Jared Cook having amazing games and going away. We joked about it earlier in the weeks, I think. Who was it? Was it Jamie Eisenberg that tweeted. Yes. Someone tweeted something really funny about like a lot of people are going to go sign Jared Cook. A lot of people are going to be really upset next week after they played him. But this is a longer term pump the brakes on Jared Cook than Just that look, he had a great game back from injury. And I love the packers offense, we've talked about that because of how bad their defense is. But he has the worst schedule imaginable for tight ends the rest of this season. Over the next three weeks, over the next four weeks, he plays nothing but top 10 matchups, top 10 defenses against the tight end. He's got Philadelphia this week, second best tight end defense. Then Houston, the fifth best, then Seattle, the ninth best in Chicago, the eighth best in Minnesota. You're just not getting anything out of Jared Cook.

[Andy Holloway]

Jared Cook's career is the equivalent to the 2 liter bottle of soda you see in the back of the fridge. And you had one delicious cup and you see it in the back and you smile and you pull it out and you fill your cup and you take a sip and it's as flat as can be.

[Jason Moore]

You were so excited when you saw it. You went, oh, it's root beer. I could go for a root beer right now.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you can't. It's a flat sea.

[Mike Wright]

It's a one time deal with the 2 liter.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a one time deal with the 2 liter. That's what Jared Cook is. Okay, who you got?

[Mike Wright]

Andy?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm pumping the brakes on James White. If you didn't need more reason to. But look, the fact of the matter is last week he scored. He had a good fantasy day. He was over 15 points. But he's progressively going to lose snaps and did lose snaps to Deion Lewis. He didn't have any carries. I don't have confidence that, look, you roll him out there, you are 100% not going to get what you want if he doesn't get into the end zone. That is exactly what I believe about James White right now. And moving forward, it only gets worse. So I'm pumping the brakes on James White. I think you've got better options out there. I'd rather start Kenneth Dixon than James White, I'll put it that way.

[Jason Moore]

No, I completely agree. I think it's a great pump the brakes. In fact, I might, while we're in the middle of the show, depending on how waivers go, he is on my drop. He's one of the guys that I might be dropping if waivers go how I would like them to go. What about you, Michael?

[Mike Wright]

All right, so I'm not, I'm not blasting off the raid siren here. This is not a full panic alarm. This is as the segment of loose. This is just a pump the brakes. Terrell Pryor has to take on The Giants, they have only allowed seven touchdowns to wide receivers the entire season. Janoris Jenkins playing at a high level. And so I just, people are looking though, oh, McCown's back. Terrell Pryor, it's all systems go. Let's, let's have at this. But I'm saying I don't, I don't, I'm not expecting high level production immediately.

[Jason Moore]

So this is, this is like a one week, this match, correct. Against Jenkins, correctly tough because of the McCown coming in.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sure that there's people who are very excited for him and I'm excited for Barnage more than I am for Prior for this particular week. So just, and for people who have prior, there's, there's a good, good chance that you have a better option just sitting on your bench because of how Pryor was acquired just via waiver wire. That was a good ride.

[Andy Holloway]

Prior was acquired via the waiver wire.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just saying you may have a better option than Terrell Pryor this week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, that was pump the brakes with O'Reilly Auto Parts. Better parts, better prices every day with O'Reilly. Let's move on to the news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Ian Rapaport reporting. Bill's wide receiver Sammy Watkins will return to practice today.

[Jason Moore]

So let's say he starts this week and you want to know, what do you do?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I, Tyrod Taylor is my stream of the week. So that makes me feel a little bit better about Tyrod Taylor. I don't think you can start Sammy Watkins this week. He plays at a position that is very deep at the, you know, wide receiver. To me, I do not roll him out there unless I'm desperate.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was my initial thought. But I'm going to watch the, the practice reports here. If he's practicing in full with Robert woods not expected to play, I mean, the team is going to need him. So I'm leaning more and more towards. I'll start him.

[Andy Holloway]

The team is gonna need him. Would you feed him the rock?

[Mike Wright]

I'm on fire today. All right, tell Hallmark I'm ready.

[Andy Holloway]

I would love a line, a full line of fantasy hitman cards. And when you open the card, there's a rhyme and a few beard hairs that are just that, just poof out.

[Mike Wright]

It's like the explodes. Oh, that's my beard hairs on your face.

[Andy Holloway]

Dangerous sounds. Sounds unverified to me. All right. ESPN is reporting Rob Gronkowski is not expected to play this Sunday against the Jets. The Patriots are preparing the offense without him. The honest truth is they don't need him to beat the jets, but you might have needed him to win your fantasy matchup, which means pay attention to the starts of the week at the tight end position today, and hopefully you grab some guys on waivers this morning as well.

[Jason Moore]

And also, let's just throw out Martellus Bennett. Last week, there were huge expectations for him because Gronk was out and he put up one for seven or something like that on two targets. However, he ran 34 routes, which was his season high this year. Pat, you know, only blocked 10 times. That will, you know, that's one of those type of numbers that will probably start to swing back to what you expect on a guy running 34 routes for the Patriots who use the tight end. So I'm not completely off of Martellus Bennett this week just because he had a bad week last week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Andrew Luck did not practice on Tuesday. He. I just don't see any way he gets into Thursday's game.

[Mike Wright]

I don't either.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know what? That's a bummer. It is, because that would have. I mean, just from a Thanksgiving Day game, you're really looking forward to it. Now, look, I'm starting the Pittsburgh defense against Scott Tolzine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I can't disagree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know, they had a great game last week against the McCown Kessler project, and I think they're a streaming option. But if you're an Andrew Luck owner, it's a bummer. You're going to have to sign somebody.

[Jason Moore]

Else, so you're going to have to try.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to. Oh, my goodness. Jason is playing defense right now.

[Jason Moore]

Playing defense.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm playing against Jason this week. He's fighting for. He's fighting to pass somebody in the standings and he's taken me on and I have Andrew Lucky. And that glimmer in your eye says you have waiver claims, maybe paid waiver claims.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you know it. You're out of fab. I got three paid waiver claims. I'm dropping guys to get quarterbacks. You ain't playing nobody.

[Andy Holloway]

Do I need more than three quarterback claims in my.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's too late. You need to focus on this show.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. Welcome to this show. If you get something special here, you get an insight into actually playing in these leagues.

[Jason Moore]

I don't care about fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

You get some claims in Andy. I'll finish up the news.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, go ahead.

[Mike Wright]

Robert Griffin III has been designated for return and he is coming back to practice. We are going to see Robert Griffin before the season is done. I would expect him to play next week. The Browns need to see if he can possibly be the guy of the future. We don't. We have no idea since it was a half a game basically for Robert Griffin and he really needs this for his career to earn any kind of role moving forward. The Chargers have claimed Ronnie Hillman. He's still around everybody, so.

[Jason Moore]

But. But Mike, do I pick him up off of waivers now? No, no, no, no, no, of course.

[Andy Holloway]

Please don't.

[Mike Wright]

But I'll say this, the Broncos did have a claim as well, which.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, really?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I did not. I did not know that they might.

[Mike Wright]

Be a little bit disappointed in Mr. D. Booker with he had since taken over the starter job. Devonte has. I believe he's under three yards of carry and just. He's been not that guy that we saw in relief because I don't know, maybe his success was a little bit predicated that CJ Anderson was. Was wearing out some defenses. So just a thought. Mark Ingram is out of the concussion protocol. He should practice today. So that's all systems go for Mark Ingram. And then the final big news, right? Ryan Matthews, mcl, Not practicing. Darren Sprouls, broken rib, not practicing. I hope that you picked up Wendell Smallwood if you need a running back, because you won't know until Monday night because that's, you know, they play Monday night. But Wendell Small would. If these two guys are out, he turns into a very, very interesting likely running back to play.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Fantasy forecast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the forecast. There is nothing better than football and pumpkin pie.

[Jason Moore]

I would say disturbing.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you gonna do to that pie, Mike? Dangerous.

[Mike Wright]

You mind your business.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodness. All right, so we have three Thanksgiving day games we're gonna preview first for the fantasy football owners. Who to start, who to sit? The Vikings and the Lions, The Redskins and the Cowboys and the Steelers and the Colts. Very excited. I love Thanksgiving. It's just great. I love a holiday in which football is built into part of what you're doing. During that Day football and eating like this is.

[Jason Moore]

That's great.

[Andy Holloway]

And I have my extended family. Like, we're obviously Cardinal fans, but my. My mom's side of the family is all Cowboy fans. Huge Cowboy fans. Always have been. And so they're so excited about this season and how things are going for Dak and the boys. So let's start with the Vikings and Lions game. The Lions are two and a half point favorites at home in this matchup. This is Bradford. This is Stafford. This is the assortment of running backs that you have available to you in this game. And then you have. You have a lot of question marks. This game is filled with question marks to me. Mike talked earlier in the week about Eric Ebron being his rising star.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

And so you feel very confident about starting Eric Ebron at the tight end position in this game. And you feel confident about Rudolph on the other side.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Oh, the Lions, they're allowing just 2.2 passing touchdowns per game. You. You want in there Rudolph? Because look, Stefan Diggs, their number one wide receiver, he was limited Monday. He did not practice on Tuesday. If he does not get in a limited practice today, on Wednesday, you better expect Stefan Diggs to sit in a good matchup for him. So Rudolph is even more enticing.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, what are some of the big question marks from this game? Because I think. I think you're asking whether or not you could start Stafford at home in this matchup. I mean, the Vikings past is great.

[Mike Wright]

But I'd look elsewhere. Personally.

[Andy Holloway]

It hasn't been good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. And what we have seen. Mike mentioned this, but what we've seen pretty much this whole year is that the Lions kind of play to their competition. You know, if they're. If they're playing a really great, prolific offense, then they will be a really great, prolific offense. But against the Vikings, you know, I don't expect this game to be one that really gets out of hand. Unless the Vikings are scoring special teams and defensive touchdowns, I am still. Would you play the Vikings defense, special teams against the Lions?

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, the Vikings defense has been making big plays. Corduroy Patterson in the special teams game, I think that you can definitely do that. Theo Riddick had been limited this week, but I think he's the one guy that, you know, I'm very comfortable starting him in that running back two category this week. Do you guys agree with Theo Riddick completely?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you start Riddick or would you start at Ingram? If he was healthy, I would start Riddick. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The Minnesota Vikings run defense has not been good over the last, you know, four or five games. They have given up career highs to three different players on the ground. So I think Theo Riddick is a. Is a somewhat different running backs, though ridicule.

[Andy Holloway]

He had four carries last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's a different running back. So we'll see how they. They defend on there with decent linebackers.

[Jason Moore]

Against Theo, I could tell you who I'm not going to play in this game. I'm going to steer clear of the golden Tate Marvin Jones duo. I don't know who it's going to be. I'm sure one of them has a great chance of getting a touchdown, but I would like to avoid it personally. You just, you can't predict it. You've seen this year, players are getting burned by starting these Lions wide receivers. And in a matchup against Minnesota to boot, I'm staying clear.

[Mike Wright]

I'll say Adam Thielen, if Stefan Diggs sits Sneaky snort.

[Andy Holloway]

And Cordell Patterson.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, is he banged up?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I said if Stefan Dig sits. Cordell Patterson led the team in targets last week. He is a sneaky snart.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

As we would say. All right, Asiata, can you do anything with him in this game?

[Mike Wright]

You can play.

[Jason Moore]

I think so. I mean, can you steam?

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry.

[Jason Moore]

He doesn't do much, but he gets in an end zone often enough to be one of those. If you have to start a running back, you've got injuries. Yeah, he's got a much better chance at a touchdown than most of those. Like, you know, running back 30 plus out there on the waiver wire.

[Andy Holloway]

Can you stream or should you even be tempted to stream Sam Bradford against the Lions defense that has allowed 2.2 touchdown passes per game? I mean, that is if you get 202. That's your streaming standard, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's it.

[Andy Holloway]

Wonder if Jason's gonna force me into starting Sam Bradford this week.

[Mike Wright]

It's not terrible, but there are likely better options on your wire.

[Jason Moore]

You'll be lucky to play Sam Bradford.

[Mike Wright]

I hope he dropped his bench.

[Andy Holloway]

I hope he drops his whole bench and a couple starters. No kicker, no defense, 18 quarterbacks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The Redskins take on the Cowboys. Cowboys are seven point favorites in this game. I know that Jason and I have made a bet about Dak Prescott, but I love Prescott in this game. And then Kirk Cousins. How do you like me now? Yeah, you know you said that right? To the gm.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, as he should.

[Andy Holloway]

And then he gave the GM a noogie right at the end of that conversation.

[Mike Wright]

Did he?

[Andy Holloway]

That's an emasculating conversation for the gm. Two yells of how do you like me now? And a noogie.

[Mike Wright]

Did Cousins just stare him in the eyes and do the manzel real quick?

[Jason Moore]

You better pay me point of clarification, because I. I couldn't. I didn't see it, and I could not tell if it was a joke or not. Did he really give him a noogie?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, did he really like.

[Andy Holloway]

He did. He did the little kid rub on the top of the head to end the hug? He said, how do you like me now? Twice, right in his face. And then he gave him the rub on the top of the head.

[Jason Moore]

Talk about a team with players you can love. You got fat.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You got fat Rob making fun of himself, being a great, you know, player. And then you got Kirk Cousins. I am falling in love with Washington, Crowder, Crowders.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Garcon, who wants the ball in every single play because he thinks he's the best player in the league.

[Jason Moore]

He's pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

He's pretty good. All right, let's get into the fantasy questions of this game. Look, I wanted to pump the brakes on Rob Kelly because I want to pump the brakes on anybody who scores three touchdowns that runs similar to Matt Aziata.

[Mike Wright]

He's better than Ozzy.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he is. And I cannot pump the brakes on 20 plus carries. I cannot do it. It's illegal. It's not allowed.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you got to start.

[Andy Holloway]

So I love Rob Kelly. I mean, you have to play him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was going to say you have to start him until he proves otherwise, that he's not going to be productive. I think his usage is so high in an offense where you cannot focus on the run, you can't do it. There's just too many weapons for Washington. You're not going to be stacking the box. And that sets up. Not to mention Washington has one of the better offensive lines in the league. You combine all those things and you tell me, I get. You know, we've always said opportunity is greater than talent, and I can't imagine a much better opportunity than what Robert Kelly gets to run behind. And with the weapons behind him, it's kind of reminiscent. It's like a. It's like a poor man's Dallas situation. A slightly worse offensive line, maybe a slightly worse offense. Yeah, I mean, they're about to even.

[Andy Holloway]

Redskins Give up the 5th least sacks per game on Cousins. And look to me, 51 point over under. There should be a Lot of fantasy points in this game and I know it's early, but it's my.

[Jason Moore]

Oh already Andy is almost upset of the win. I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

7 points. Even the Cowboys 7 points in this game. I think the Redskins can cover. I think the Redskins can sure give them seven points. I think he can win this game. This is a look. I don't remember the last time we had a Thanksgiving Day game where every team playing was at.500 or better. Every single team playing on Thanksgiving is 500.

[Jason Moore]

Of course you can't remember that because the Lions always play on Thanksgiving. So it's been a while and.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Is it.

[Mike Wright]

Is there anyone in this game that you want to bench?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Vernon Davis, I don't think you bench Brian. I'm sure you're. You've got a case of the bezels.

[Mike Wright]

Wide receiver to Cole Beasley. You certainly do.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't feel. I mean, D Jacks, limited practice, expects to play. I don't think I play. Dj.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with that. I wouldn't play D Jacks and I wouldn't play Vernon Davis. After his goose egg last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play Whitten?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He was in consideration for when I was looking at the starts of the week. I think he's an okay play. It's not the best. I think you could get away with it.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Zeke could have a monster game.

[Mike Wright]

He could for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The last Thanksgiving Day game before we get into all the other matches. Scott Tolzine, who is now a nine point dog at home against the Steelers. I know that I am the biggest hypocrite on earth after talking about Big Ben the way I did and then betting on Big Ben and then hint, hint, he's my start of the week this week. But I just love this matchup. It's just too good to be true for me with Big Ben. I know it's on the road, but he's in the dome. He's got Scott Tolzine on the other side. You're going to get some short fields. His potential for a high touchdown game. Come on. The Colts defense.

[Jason Moore]

This is why you listen to this show. Because sometimes we just flat disagree with each other. I don't like Big Ben in this game. This is a perfect trap game for me. He's down a lot of his receiving weapons. He's on the road and he's against an offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Marcus Wheaton is not a weapon. How many times do we have to say that?

[Jason Moore]

You could say Darius Hayward Bay is not a weapon.

[Andy Holloway]

I do Say that.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. And you could say that Sammy Coates is not a weapon as well.

[Andy Holloway]

No. What? Coats is a weapon.

[Jason Moore]

My point is he has none of Broken finger. He has none of them. And it's. It's better to have them than to not. You just saw him go up against a great matchup in Cleveland and do nothing. Part of the reason he did nothing is because he didn't need to. You know, I mean, look left. Bell was amazing. He had 100 yards in the first half against the Colts with an offense that's not going to be able to score. I don't like this game script for Big Ben on the road. I think Le'Veon Bell is going to eat. Antonio Brown will be fine and Big Ben will probably be quarterback. 11 or 12.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I love our bet between Dak and.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. No, I'm double down. Look, a lot of what I have. The last two times that he's played the Colts, Big Ben has 10 touchdowns and no interceptions.

[Jason Moore]

And both of those games were in Pittsburgh.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. But, yeah, I don't think Tolzine and the Colts are going to do nothing in this game. But we see a funny tweet here.

[Mike Wright]

Someone had tweeted at Hasselbeck to bring him back, hey, you got any plans for Thanksgiving? And he replied. He said, it's tempting. It's like, I've got intense turkey bowl plans, but I'm not expecting an mri, X rays or any type of protocol afterwards with Scott Tolzine should be expecting. I hope the health insurance is good, my man.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Andrew Locke's been sacked 35 times. There's a reason he's not playing on Thanksgiving in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Are you? I think we're still starting Frank Gore, right? He's just been too concerned.

[Andy Holloway]

I love him, of course.

[Jason Moore]

Very good in this matchup. But the real question mark comes, I think, with Dante Moncrief.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. Start him.

[Jason Moore]

You would.

[Mike Wright]

I'd still start him as well, man.

[Jason Moore]

I'm, I'm. I think that he is an okay play, but I'm guessing that most teams have options. I would prefer over Dante Moncrief as the wide receiver too, with Scott Tolzine. And if you look, I think in the last 21 games for Moncrief, he's only had more than 65 yards three times.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's a three to me. I mean, he's a three. He's a three. Because the Steelers defense is not great. I mean, you got a 26 ranked passing defense. These teams are both 5 and 5, you're looking at the Bortles effect here for Tolzine at the end of the game. That's your hope if you're. If you're hoping for Moncrief and Hilton. But you have to. I mean, look. Look at what happened last year. I mean, we went through this with the Andrew Lux injuries last year. It wasn't pretty for the wide receivers.

[Jason Moore]

Right. And you have Mike's theory that the backup quarterbacks come in and throw to the wide receiver 2 more than to the wide receiver 1. I agree with that theory a lot of the times because they just avoid the best corner on the other team and that's why they're not throwing to the one that would. That would give a little bit more credence to Moncrief versus Ty Hilton. But it's a scary proposition without Philip Dorset. Come on, man.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. Thank you. We're going to move on now to the Sunday game.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Now, a reminder to all the listeners out there as we walk through all of these games in our matchup preview. This is a day earlier than we normally do our matchups and so all of our point by point rankings aren't completed and on the website until later today. And so you can go in there, you, you know, we update those, you see them individually, you see the consensus rankings on these players. So as we give some of these options, you know, we've looked at all these matchups, but the point projections aren't on the site until later today. So if you want to do that kind of this guy versus that guy, you can do it on the website. The fancy footballers.com all right. Cardinals, Falcons in Atlanta. The Falcons are four point favorites. It's a 50 and a half point over under. I like both quarterbacks in this game. I like the running backs. But do you. Do you feel confident in Coleman's return this week and how will that impact and Devonta Freeman. Does it hurt Freeman more than it helps Coleman owners this week?

[Mike Wright]

A little bit, of course. I mean, whenever the volume goes down, you would love to see Devontae Freeman in this high scoring game all by himself, even though the Cardinals defense is pretty solid. But I think Coleman can help Freeman. I think part of, part of what Freeman when he's elite is when he has got a full tank of gas. And last year you saw this when the, the fantasy production fell off. It's because no one was there for Devonta Freeman. And I know he's had a little bit of help the last couple weeks, but not like Tevin Coleman production. So I think that it's an overall boost to the Falcons overall boost to all fantasy people on that team, including Freeman, as crazy as that sounds.

[Jason Moore]

Dang it.

[Andy Holloway]

Did I get a quarterback?

[Jason Moore]

You got a quarterback. You got your boy.

[Andy Holloway]

I got my. I got Tyrod Taylor.

[Jason Moore]

No, I kept Tyrod Taylor. I got Tyrod Taylor. I got Palmer. You got Colin Kaepernick. All right, you're playing Colin Kaepernick against.

[Andy Holloway]

Me, and I like ironic chances to defeat you. That's fun.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry. Getting back to the people here.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I. What waivers just went through then, huh?

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

So what, you have three quarterbacks on your roster?

[Jason Moore]

I do what it takes. I need the. I need the W. So who'd you.

[Andy Holloway]

Drop that I need to go pick up now?

[Jason Moore]

James White. If you want him, you just pump the brakes. So go get him.

[Andy Holloway]

I won't do that. All right, back to the matchup. Here's something interesting. All right. The Falcons Defense has allowed 28.4 receptions per game, which is basically the. It is the Most in the league. The Cardinals wide receivers are targeted the second most in the league. So I think what this means plus the over under and Palmer and the defensive rank, you know, The Falcons the 31st against the pass. We know the Cardinals wide receivers will catch the ball. Do we know who's going to catch the ball other than Larry Fitzgerald?

[Jason Moore]

We don't know who it's going to be. But I think the real point of factor here is that Carson Palmer will be the one throwing the ball to those guys. He was almost my start of the week and I would be happy to start Carson Palmer. He hasn't looked as good all year, but you've got a guy who last week in his down week, the three weeks prior to that, he had thrown over 300 yards week after week after week. And then last week he played the Minnesota Vikings defense and was hit a season high for all players on 63% of drop backs. That's because of the Minnesota pass rush that Atlanta does not quite have. Now I will find it ironic when Dwight Freeney comes in and sacks Carson Palmer once or twice. However, Carson Palmer I think will be a great play in this game. It's going to be a high scoring. You just gave the numbers on wide receiver receptions. I don't know if it's going to be John Brown, Michael Floyd, J.J. nelson, Jermaine Gresham, oh, Big Grish. But I do know that Carson Palmer is going to be slinging it around. Happy to start him.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, Mike, any thoughts on the other wide receivers on the other side? We know Julio, you start him. Taylor Gabriel, we've talked about him.

[Jason Moore]

I've got a question.

[Andy Holloway]

Gabriel is so risky.

[Jason Moore]

Would you, would you rather start Taylor Gabriel or Mohammed Sanu, who is the better second wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons coming into this matchup against the Arizona Cardinals where Patrick Peterson will be on Julio and there's some, you know, weak spots elsewhere, especially with Tyron Matthew out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I probably start to new. I probably would. Despite Gabriel having three nice weeks. It's. It's quantity, right. I mean Taylor Gabriel had one catch on one of those weeks that was great. So I guess if I was having to start one of those guys, Sanu I know is going to get targets and catches.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would say part of it's going to depend on if Tyro Matthew plays. I think that changes things a lot for the Arizona defense. Saying if he is out then make.

[Andy Holloway]

Them worse or better.

[Mike Wright]

The Cardinals.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, worse. If Matthew's back.

[Mike Wright]

No, no. If Matthew's out, I'm saying if Matthew is out, this hasn't been himself then then Gabriel's. I mean you have a decent chance of one of those big plays, right?

[Jason Moore]

The big play chances is better without him. I agree. Mohammed Sanu is probably the better player, especially considering he's been banged up and now they finally got their bye week. So he had an extra week of rest. Coming back being a little bit healthier. I mean we saw right to start the year before he was banged up. He started the year with a five for 80 and a touchdown. So if he can come out a little bit more fresh, Mohammed Sanu is probably a sneaky snart that you could do worse.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about the Bengals and the Ravens. The divisional matchup here. This game has a 40 point over under. I don't expect a lot of scoring. I mean the Bengals just lost A.J. green and Gio Bernard 45% of Dalton's targets. I think everybody's afraid of Dalton this week and for good reason. The Ravens defense is good. I mean they're good against the run. I don't think Jeremy Hill has a monster game. I think he's a volume play.

[Jason Moore]

One of the problems.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather start Robert Kelly than Jeremy Hill.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah, I would as well. One of the biggest problems that I see is that the Ravens are one of the best teams against the tight end, which is now essentially the Bengals best weapon. With AJ Green out, you want to say, okay, Tyler Ifert gets the bump and he will as the season goes on, but this is a bad matchup for week one post AJ Green. I'm worried. I mean, I kind of find myself steering clear of all Bengals until after we see what happens this week. But a lot of people can't. A lot of people don't have the choice. I would still start Hill just because of necessary volume. With Geo out certainly tempered expectations because this is not going to be a high scoring game with the new ajless Bengals and the Ravens.

[Andy Holloway]

Steve Smith senior has done it week in and week out at this point. To me he's a must start guy. Since getting back from the injury, all he's done is 4 for 47, 5 for 60 and 8 for 99 touchdowns in the last two games and just continues to be incredible.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's almost like he's been really good for his whole career and always a great fantasy football player.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a big article about moving on from him when Carolina moved on from him to make, you know, Cam Newton the official quote unquote leader of the team. And you just have to imagine. I mean, look at Steve Smith. Look how he's playing now. I mean, Cam and Steve Smith. I was at the game, the first Cam Newton game that he ever played with Steve Smith and it was just like. Or did he. They didn't move on from him before Cam, did they?

[Mike Wright]

No, he was there for one season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's what I meant. He had that monster week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he had a monster year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Just keeps going.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Moving on.

[Jason Moore]

Are you starting? Who. Who would you start? Running back wise here it's all the Dixon West.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm. I recall what I was going to say. I am looking at the Steve Smithson. Your decision. I have him and I'm going to.

[Andy Holloway]

Play him over who?

[Mike Wright]

Over Brandon Marshall.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would do that too.

[Mike Wright]

Just saying like it's. I'm putting it out there in the. For the foot clan. It's officially sitting down. Brandon Marshall.

[Jason Moore]

If our trade deadline was not over, I would happily say you can have Brandon Marshall for Steve Smith. I would rather have Steve Smith right now. Far more trustworthy.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather start Brandon Cooks against the LA Rams or would you rather start Steve Smith Senior?

[Jason Moore]

Senior. I have more confidence in the floor. I think Cooks still has as high a ceiling as he ever does because, you know, he can bust that long one, but he could end up with three catches for 30.

[Andy Holloway]

Cooks is so funny because he has, I think the third most fantasy point since week five. But you don't think of him that way because when he blows up, it's like he had a 40 point week or something. Crabtree or Steve Smith Senior?

[Jason Moore]

I think you have to go Steve Smith. Senor Crabtree has had a couple bad weeks. However, we need to kind of pump the brakes on the negative thoughts on Crabtree. This last game was really weird. He dropped uncharacteristically. He dropped a couple passes. He had a touchdown where he caught the ball, dragged the foot and then just dropped it on the way to the.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he had.

[Mike Wright]

He had two hands on it and he thought, no, this is.

[Jason Moore]

That was too easy.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to one hand this.

[Andy Holloway]

That's like you don't want to land on your shoulder or something.

[Jason Moore]

He was slipping around the field. It was a really weird game for Crabtree, but he was still involved target wise. He just had a personal bad game.

[Andy Holloway]

The Jacksonville Jaguars Jaguars travel to Buffalo to take on the Bills, who are seven and a half point favorites in this game. It's going to be a cold one up in Buffalo. Tyrod Taylor, he's my stream of the week. I would like to see Watkins get back in there. But McCoy should play. We are waiting for confirmation on that.

[Mike Wright]

You're probably waiting up till game time.

[Andy Holloway]

That's classic LaShawn McCoy. But let's, let's talk about this game. You know, Tyrod Taylor does not throw for a ton of yardage. In fact, he's the 32nd rank. But he produces because he gets into the end zone with his legs and he does enough and I think he can do enough in this game. What are the big storylines here for you guys? I know McCoy. The weight on McCoy. Are you fine? Mike, do you own Gillislee in any of your McCoy leagues?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you just going to play the down to the wire McCoy or Gillisley game? If McCoy's active, start him.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. If he's not Gillisle, this isn't like the hamstring week.

[Andy Holloway]

This is.

[Mike Wright]

If McCoy is active, he's in for.

[Andy Holloway]

Me 100% and I think he will be with the thumb.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

This is not his legs.

[Mike Wright]

So we need a. We haven't gotten an eye in a TJ Yeldin update yet because Chris Ivory becomes interesting if he is alone in that backfield. You have the bills who are 20th against the run.

[Jason Moore]

The Bills have a pretty good run.

[Mike Wright]

Defense, but it's volume here.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

For when you're just. You're desperate for a running back and Ivory is possibly.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Ivory last week had 17 carries and six receptions and he did most of his, most of his damage through the passing game. Which is, which interests me a little bit against the Bills. The Bills defense, if you look at them and you just see their rank, it's a little misleading because they were eaten alive by Jay Ajayi. So you have that 235 yard week or whatever it was. Everything else kind of has been good the rest of the season. They just fell apart that game. But I do agree Chris Ivory is interesting. If Yelden is out because you. It's rare to get a guy who's going to touch the ball 20 times and Chris Ivory almost certainly will.

[Andy Holloway]

With the fact that Yelden had the ankle injury and didn't return to the game, I expect him to be. If he's active, I expect him to be limited anyways. So I think you could do worse than Ivory in this game. But this is a game where I overall like the Bills defense. Right. I like the Bills opportunity. Here is a streaming defense. I know Mike just spent a bunch of Fab dollars to pick up the Buffalo defense this week because you, you have everything you want. You're at home with a okay to good actual defense against a very turnover prone Blake Bortles. The regression continues for Blake Bortles and.

[Mike Wright]

I will also say just to piggyback real quick on the Bills, spoiler alert. They play the Browns and the Dolphins in weeks 15, 16 at home. So this is.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why you spent that night.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't just spend for this week, I spent because I plan to be in playing in week 15 and 16.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a great point. Alan Robinson's had some bounce back weeks. He's a start to me. I mean I don't think you have any reason to sit him.

[Jason Moore]

Alan Robinson has actually been okay fantasy football this year. The view on him because of what a terrible start he got off to was just like he is. He's already busted beyond the ability to come back. But in reality, Humpty Dumpty can't put him back together. All the King's men, it's just not, it's not happening. But he's actually been pretty productive.

[Andy Holloway]

He's with an umpty.

[Jason Moore]

He's, you know, in the top 10 for targets which is probably the most important, you know, stat that you look at when you, when you're talking about a pass catchers. How, how involved is he in the offense?

[Mike Wright]

He's wide receiver. 20 in half point PPR.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly, exactly. Last four weeks, three touchdowns, playing better, higher target percentage than he had been receiving. So you could do worse and I think they'll be down in this game. So you always have guards.

[Mike Wright]

When was Greg Olson fired?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. And that was one of the hopes. So the Titans take on the Chicago Bears.

[Mike Wright]

Matt Barkley.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, this is, you know, it's interesting because I was looking at the Bears defense and while they are 12th ranked for like I think yardage given up. They're like 32nd in fantasy points given up now to wide receivers. And so hint, hint. Rashad Matthews. Right in this matchup, I feel very confident starting Richard Matthews. I think nobody is questioning starting Murray. Stay in the flames with Mariota in this game. Oh yes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And Delaney Walker is a start as well. So suddenly we're starting all the tights.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, the exotic smash mouth is not so exotic or smashy mouthy.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they're just putting up points. They're putting up points. So is there any hope? Do we even. Do we just ignore the Bears offense for fantasy Football the rest of the year.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

I think you can. You can keep an eye on Jordan Howard. Their defense keeps games low, scoring for long enough before they tire out after having been on the field the whole game where the first three quarters. Jordan Howard or whoever the starter is right now it's Jordan Howard is able to be involved and I would still be willing to start Jordan Howard outside of him. I'm abandoning the Bears.

[Mike Wright]

We still the Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

D man, it's incredible what they've given up to wide receivers over the last six weeks.

[Mike Wright]

It is not yet. I don't think it's been announced that Jay Cutler does have the torn labrum. It's just in Rapaport says that's what they think is going on. Second for second opinion. So John Fox, I believe has said Jay Cutler is day to day if you have to.

[Jason Moore]

Is that serious?

[Mike Wright]

That's just the John Foxes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He'll be on. He'll be on IR and he'll say he's day to day.

[Andy Holloway]

I missed it completely too. I was like moving on to the next question. John Fox jokes just go over my head anymore. They're just. That's just life.

[Jason Moore]

You have permanently positioned yourself to ignore all things that start with John Fox said. So you don't. You don't even hear it.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

You're like. You're like one of the Westworld people looking at a, at a photograph of the current. You. You don't see any. You don't see anything.

[Andy Holloway]

That's exactly right. Stuck in my loop.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. If you had to pick one wide receiver to take a dart throw on for Chicago, it would be.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go with Cameron Meredith still.

[Andy Holloway]

But not without saying it in a sad tone.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that is for sure.

[Jason Moore]

That is. That is exactly right.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go.

[Jason Moore]

Cameron Meredith.

[Andy Holloway]

I wanted to check something real quick. Are you, are you verified, Mike?

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you're not.

[Jason Moore]

He's not.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm thankful for that. This Thanksgiving, the Giants take on the Browns. The Cleveland Browns. The woe is me. Browns, the seven point underdogs at home. Browns. So start your engines and start your Giants.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to do this as many times as I can in the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I thought you were going to start an engine like a normal car. Like Manning, Jennings, Beckham, can you start? Shepard, can you start? Tie on the Giant side of the ball. The Browns are 31st against the run. They're 22nd against the pass.

[Jason Moore]

They're 32nd in fantasy points against tight end. I realized that Will Tye has not had a double digit fantasy game yet this season. But he was almost my start of the week. And if you're needing a tight end, I think Will tie is a fine play because he has only been really the starter over Larry Donnell for the past three or four weeks. It started with a poor schedule. I think it started against Philadelphia, who's the second best team against tight ends. So he didn't do anything special. He's been involved. He caught a touchdown. I think this could be a week where he goes hog wild against the worst team in the NFL against the tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

Now McCown, I know, has thrown I think seven touchdowns to Barnage in his career. That's the connection that Mike is a fan of.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, yes, very much. He is. In fact, we'll spoil that that he's going to be my start of the week because I want to give people that the confidence that I'm okay playing barnage here.

[Andy Holloway]

Now Mike pumped the brakes on Terrell Pryor. I think, I think you can still start him if you have to start him. In my circumstance in our league, I'd start Steve Smith over him. I think I'd start Devonte Adams on Monday night over him.

[Mike Wright]

That's exactly what I meant. Where people, if you have prior, you likely have these other guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Now let me put you in a flex position here because I'm just going to keep my team up here. Drell Pryor or Mark Ingram in the flex.

[Mike Wright]

Man. I think I still would go with Ingram.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right, that makes sense. So we're gonna go ahead and move on and talk about some steaming hot trade tips before we get into the rest of the forecast.

[Jason Moore]

Steaming hot fantasy tab.

[Andy Holloway]

We actually have three of three of these. Three today. Yeah. With the trade deadline coming down to the wire in mini leagues, some you might be past them, but we wanted to give you some ideas of exactly how to approach trades at this time of the year or more. So just how we approach them and then if you believe in that, you want to implement that, go and do it. Jason, let's kick it off with you. What is your steaming hot trade tip for this point?

[Jason Moore]

Sure, sure. My streaming hot trade tip is streaming hot. Steaming hot is to don't look for what players you want to target. People always think, I need a wide receiver. Who should I target?

[Mike Wright]

And we say the answer is always Antonio Brown.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. The answer is always the same. So you don't need to ask anymore. Who should I target? It's almost not a which player should I target? It's which team, that's who you need to target. Instead of going to your wide receivers and sorting by who's got the most points and looking at guys you like or don't like. That's. That's nonsense. Because let's say what you've got to give up is you've got two great tight ends. You had Tyler Ifert come back and you had Jordan Reed and you need wide receiver help. This is just one example. And so you're saying, hey, I'm going to trade Jordan Reed or Tyler. I fort well, and so you want, I want Mike Evans, I want to get him. I want a package. And you go to Mike Evans team and he's got Gronk. You're not getting Mike Evans. Like, it's just, it's silly to target players. What you do every, every league out there, there is a page where you can look at the league rosters total at a glance Yon Yahoo, on ESPN, on, you know, MFL, all of those, they have those league roster pages. And what I do is I look at what I'm going to give up. I go, I got a lot of running back depth. I need to find a team that needs a running back. So I just go to that page and, and I control F and I type RB and I make sure the highlight all is on. And I scroll down through the page and I can just so quickly and easily look at every team's running backs and say, oh, they're stacked, they're stacked. Oh my goodness, they're awful. Let's see if they've got wide receivers. Oh, they've got three solid wide receivers. That's the team. That's how you find a trade. Don't trade for players, trade for teams. And then within that team, right.

[Andy Holloway]

And I was going to add that. I said maybe, maybe if you did identify three or four players that you really wanted based on playoff schedules and what your team needs, that's the tiebreaker of which team to approach and who to approach.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you agree with that?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, at some point you're going to need to know which player. I'm just saying the path should, should start, in my opinion, with what teams are good partners for me that I could get a trade done with and then see if there is that perfect match of a player you really like to target because of fantasy playoffs and things like that.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go with quality over quantity at this point in the year. Look, the value of depth goes down the longer the season proceeds Right. I don't need to. I want to win my league. I do not want to finish with the most bench points. Now, I understand, look, something can happen in the playoffs and having a good roster is important, but what do I want? I want those Mike Evans, the Odell Beckham juniors. I want the league winning type of players. And I've seen people send me in these trades and they go, well, I, you know, I just sent Latavius Murray and then, I don't know, Richard Matthews and a quarterback for Odell Beckham Jr. And I know, I feel like it kind of overpaid, but I just really wanted him. That's cool. I'm cool with that. Go get these big guys because you're at the point now where you got to win three weeks, you got to win three weeks in a row. And so quality over quantity. At this point, you've built up that depth by being smart on the waiver wire, by being smart in your trades and your draft. Now's the time when cashing in on some of that we've talked so much about two for one deals, three for one deals. This is the time to cash in on that. There are teams hurting. Look at all the injuries this past week. That's when you take advantage of 2 for 1 and 3 for ones is hurting teams. The Sprolls owner, the Geo owner, the AJ Green owner, whatever it might be. They need quantity and they're going to look at those trades. And that's how you overwhelm people and get a better player at the end. So that's my trade strategy for this time of year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, mine kind of piggybacks on that. It's just a. As you look to improve your team, don't be stingy. I know it's the time, it's the holidays. It's the time for giving. Understand that maybe on paper, if you looked at this trade in week two, you lost, you've lost this trade badly. But this is, it's different. The strategy has shifted. So do not be afraid to lose a trade when you're looking at overall points. If you're getting a key cog for the playoff run, would an example of.

[Andy Holloway]

That be trading somebody like Aaron Rodgers or Jordy Nelson with what they have as a playoff schedule coming up?

[Mike Wright]

Sure, that can factor in. And on top of that, maybe this isn't a trade strategy, but just a strategy for moving forward. Get your handcuffs, man. And that's involved with the. Don't be stingy. You're thinking, wow, I'm, I've really just overpaid for Mike Gillislee. So what if you got Lashawn McCoy and you're going into the playoffs and you know that you have the Bills backfield locked up because Gillislee, when he's the starter, he's going to produce points. So what you paid, you overpaid for the backup. You need him on your team right now.

[Jason Moore]

And the nice thing is both of what you're saying applies because if you need to go and trade for that handcuff, that matters, then you can. But on Andy's side, sometimes the handcuffs are out on the waivers. And so you go, I'm going to overpay. I'm going to give up, you know, this guy, that guy and this guy for the superstar stud.

[Mike Wright]

Clear a bench spot.

[Jason Moore]

And I cleared a bench bomb. I grabbed that handcuff. You're set up better for that three week stretch to dominate.

[Andy Holloway]

I will also say with the don't be stingy part, you're playing to win. Jason inadvertently modeled this today.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he just let a depth piece of James White. Because whatever you pump the brakes. And James white, he scored 15 points last week. He's a great depth running back to have if you need one. He just released him into the waiver.

[Jason Moore]

Pool to pick up a third quarterback in Tyrod Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

Just because he's in the playoff fight and wants to stop.

[Jason Moore]

I have to win this week.

[Andy Holloway]

See, that's the, that's the answer to the quick question. Nice job. That's how you get in the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You play with all the strategy you can within the rules. I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, back into the fantasy forecast. And just in case you need a reminder, this is the Megalodon episode and we've got a lot more. We've got the rest of the forecast. We have our starts of the week as well coming up very soon. 12 delicious Thanksgiving names for you this week. So we want you in the playoffs. We want you winning your league. Get that foot clan title. We're all about it.

[Jason Moore]

So let's eight games to cover. All right. 12 starts of the week. Yeah, we near done.

[Andy Holloway]

You're an eight course meal type of guy. You should be fine.

[Mike Wright]

We're, we're reaching that point where I'm an 8.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm an 8 course meal guy on Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe. Maybe the top button of the jeans. Maybe. You gotta make some room, dude. You gotta do what you gotta do.

[Andy Holloway]

You gotta drill a new hole into that belt. That's the, that's the ultimate concession point that I've done that two times in my life.

[Mike Wright]

Twice.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, I mean, not like a week later, but I've gone into the garage, I've pulled out the drill bit and I've drilled a new hole because I don't want to go buy a new belt because that seems even. I don't know what's worse. Right.

[Mike Wright]

Clearly the drilling is. Whereas if you go get a new belt, you just, hey, I need. I need a new, shiny new belt.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But that takes some time. What happens right when you're feeling it and you got the belt on, you got to go down and make a quick adjustment.

[Mike Wright]

But have you gone.

[Andy Holloway]

But I've run out of room.

[Mike Wright]

Have you gone just full on to suspenders.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's the ticket.

[Andy Holloway]

Not yet.

[Jason Moore]

Although you're not. You don't need any holes. That's just always perfect.

[Andy Holloway]

I asked Santa for some.

[Jason Moore]

Continue to grow. I'm gonna come in with suspenders.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Spenders.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You should really combine that. That's a new look for you. Yeah, that's special. All right, let's talk about the Chargers and the Texans. What players are going to be feasting in this matchup?

[Mike Wright]

Brock Osweiler.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no, no, I said what players are going to be feasting?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I thought you said famine.

[Jason Moore]

I thought. No, I thought. Okay. So on. On the Texans side of the ball, you've got the permanent question mark of DeAndre Hopkins of whether or not you start him. I see him as a low end wide receiver two, high end wide receiver three, which means you might have better options. And you're. You're okay to play him in a game that could be high scoring. With the Chargers and Philip Rivers, they've been able to score all year. Lamar Miller has, I think, established himself as. I mean, he already healthy again? He already has been, you know, a pretty much a must start all year long. But he's been very good. And a lot of owners of Lamar Miller feel like they were disappointed for their expectations.

[Andy Holloway]

Just missed a two touchdown game last week.

[Jason Moore]

Don't bring it up. This last week was brutal. These last two weeks have been brutal for me.

[Mike Wright]

This matchup is very.

[Andy Holloway]

You went inward real quick right there. You like completely abandoned your love for Lamar Miller because he didn't score a second touchdown. But he had 20 plus points. Really great week. What do you make of the situation?

[Jason Moore]

11 on the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Will Fuller did not start. It was Braxton Miller last week and Braxton Miller scored his first career touchdown as well, so.

[Mike Wright]

And Fuller had some dropsies.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. As which he Does. Right. So if he doesn't. At this point, Fuller is looking a lot more like a Taylor Gabriel than he is any wide receiver, too. He's looking like a big play guy who isn't making big plays because Osweiler can't find him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm personally, I'm not starting Will Fuller. I'm not starting Braxton Miller.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I would start CJ Fedorowicz.

[Andy Holloway]

I love him.

[Jason Moore]

And I would be willing to start DeAndre Hopkins. Definitely not a must start. And Lamar Miller. Those are the only three pieces from the Texan side of the ball. And my expectations are a little bit higher just because of the matchup against the Chargers, where I believe points can fly a lot easier than, say, this last week where they were playing, you know, Minnesota, and you knew it was just going to be a, a defensive low scoring game the whole time.

[Andy Holloway]

You want those points to jump right out of the nest and fly, just flying. Tyrell Williams has averaged 16.7 yards per reception. That is the second highest mark in the league this season. We know the Texans defense is very good. And so what push comes to shove here. What's the story with Rivers and his wide receiver core?

[Mike Wright]

I would still start him, but this is.

[Andy Holloway]

I love Mike's decision making grunts. You know, it's a tough decision when you get the.

[Jason Moore]

When you listen, when you listen to Mike, you don't. You can't read the transcript because then you have no idea what he's saying. You have to listen to know, like, okay, so he says, yeah, the transcript would say, yes, I would start Tyrell Williams. But you go, sometimes it's, oh, yes, I would start Tyrell Williams. And sometimes it's, yes, I would start Tyler.

[Mike Wright]

That's why I usually speak in GIFs and emojis.

[Jason Moore]

That's true, you do, and that's why you're not there.

[Andy Holloway]

Gifts and emojis are very effective on podcasting too.

[Mike Wright]

Look, this is very interesting because you have the run defense for the Chargers, fifth in the league. They're strong. They're going against Lamar Miller. And the Texans running backs are averaging over 100 yards per game. The Chargers passing defense is, is weak, but the chart. But the Texans can't pass the ball. So you have this weird diagonal strength versus, versus strength situation going on here in the Chargers versus the Texans. So I'm okay to answer the question. I'm okay starting Rivers here. Tyrone Williams is to me a more of a flex guy. I. You can wide receiver to him if you need to because, you know, the big Players big play as possible every single week. And then, of course, Melvin Gordon locked and loaded running back one.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you trade? Didn't we have this question on the show? The Ajayi Melvin Gordon trade, did we bring that up on here? Was that on the footcast?

[Mike Wright]

I don't recall.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Who would you rather have rest of the season?

[Jason Moore]

Melvin Gordon.

[Mike Wright]

Melvin Gordon.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, just making sure. How about the tight ends?

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

You talked about Fedorowicz being good. Now you have Gates and Henry together. Would you rather start Eric Ebron over all of the tight ends in this matchup? Yes. Okay. How about Gary Barnage or Antonio Gates this week?

[Jason Moore]

Ooh, I'll take Gates.

[Mike Wright]

That's close. I'll go.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to. I'm going to trust Philip rivers more than McCown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's when the rankings come out. They're going to be very close to me.

[Jason Moore]

One thing to note here, because when it comes to the wide receiver group for the Chargers, Tyrell Williams has been the guy that has excited me because it seems to be clearing up as Travis Benjamin got out of the way, was injured, wasn't sure if he was even going to be able to make it back this year, and Tyrell Williams bumped up mentally more and more for me, however, they had their bye week and Benjamin has gotten healthy. Apparently through that bye week, he was back at practice. So I expect Travis Benjamin to play. And if Travis Benjamin is playing against this Houston Texans defense that is really, really good against wide receivers, I assume because points are going to go up, someone's going to have a good game. But I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't feel confident in deciding who that is.

[Jason Moore]

And so because of that, what we see is that usually two thirds of this group, if you're talking about Benjamin, Williams and Inman, two thirds of the group have really poor games.

[Andy Holloway]

You know who they are. They're in the same boat this week with the somebody's going to score, but I don't know who as the Cardinals are because we did not get into like Floyd and Brown and Nelson in Arizona and the bat because we kind of moved on from that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but.

[Andy Holloway]

But I know Fitzgerald's gonna score.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's the thing is they. I know you got that one wide receiver that you could. You don't have it here, but there'll.

[Andy Holloway]

Be one guy here at least that has a good game and there'll be one guy in the Brown, Floyd Nelson has a good game.

[Jason Moore]

For me, if Benjamin is back, I am probably avoiding all the Options. And that's not to say that someone isn't going to have a good game. It's to say that you just can't possibly know that in advance the way that, you know, this year has gone.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, I know it's Thanksgiving, but Christmas has come early for Jai. The 49ers traveled to Miami to take on the Dolphins, who are seven and a half point favorites. The run defense for the 49ers, I believe they're playing a man down. I am not sure, but I'm not sure. I think that the counting is wrong.

[Mike Wright]

One of those symbolic. We're going to play with 10.

[Andy Holloway]

Iji is just a great start this week. Now, what I'd rather, you know, I think at this point, those that have them have been starting, right?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So on the other side of the ball, though, Carlos Hyde has been injured and now returned. And then Kelly comes out this week and talks about Hyde being the center of the offense. So where do you stand with Hyde? What is he this week? Is he RB1, A2, A3, A2?

[Mike Wright]

He's A. He's A2 for me. I mean, the. The volume is there for Carlos Hyde, the team. We talked about this. The 49ers have actually been better the last couple weeks. They're staying in games.

[Jason Moore]

The.

[Mike Wright]

The defense is holding up enough now. I mean, running backs are still. Still doing some serious work here. But Kaepernick, he's still keeping them to a point where the game is not just completely out of hand, where they have to abandon hide completely. So I just. I think he's. He's fine. He's going to get the volume. The Dolphins run defense is not as terrifying as it should be.

[Andy Holloway]

Carlos Hyde or Latavius Murray this week? Latavius Murray against Carolina.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go with.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to take Hyde.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

And actually, breaking news. This just in. Charles Sims has returned to practice off the ir.

[Mike Wright]

Come on, man.

[Andy Holloway]

So just after the waiver wire.

[Jason Moore]

Just after.

[Mike Wright]

No, he was. He was already owned in our league.

[Jason Moore]

So, I mean, I think by you.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I think you.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to be so impressed.

[Jason Moore]

You might want to look at possibly. Possibly picking him up if you've got a burnable bench spot.

[Andy Holloway]

I would just cuff Martin. I think that's all he is for me rest of season. But.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but we don't know whether or not he's been activated. This is super early news. So he might not be activated still for a couple of weeks. That's the process. But he is Back at practice, which is good news, means he will almost certainly be activated this year. And for those. That juicy fantasy playoff matchup that everyone's gone and got Doug Martin for, that matters. I was going to say on Carlos Hyde getting. Getting back to the Niners game, I see Carlos Hyde as a running back one. I think what he's done this year when healthy, you know, over those first five weeks, he had a bad week too, right? I mean, look at his fantasy points. 24. Then the week two, which was 6, 27, 15, 22. He got injured, went out, and now he got back this last game, got 19 carries and three receptions against New England. If he is the centerpiece of that offense that runs so many plays, I think he's an RP1 and I would certainly start him.

[Mike Wright]

Just to clarify for Sims, he. Because he was on IR, he's not even eligible to play until week 14, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what I mean. He's not going to be active. You get back to practice first and then you have three weeks to active.

[Mike Wright]

He's been. He has been designated as the return guy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, good.

[Mike Wright]

So that they're. They're expecting him.

[Andy Holloway]

There is a big question mark in this game about who will be these. You know we had the streamer, right? Tannehill and Kaepernick were streamers this week. Mike likes Tannehill. We know somebody's going to be the beneficiary at the wide receiver position. Everybody wants to jump onto Parker because he's making strides. He's very high draft pick, good pedigree. Landry still outperforming him. And we talked yesterday. Parker and Stills have the exact same per game average. So what in the world do you do? You got to start one, Mike. Gun to your head this week. It's a half point league.

[Mike Wright]

I'll start Parker.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'll go that way. I mean, he's. He's trending up for sure. And I mean, it's that narrative of he's the future for the franchise, a first round pick, a very high wide receiver draft pick. So I'll follow that and I'll start him.

[Jason Moore]

All right. I've got a similar question for you, Andy, because my streamer this week is Colin Kaepernick, which you are now unfortunately playing against me in our league of record. And Mike's streamer this week is Ryan Tannehill against the Niners at home. Both decent streamers. Nobody feels great about starting either of those guys. Gun to your head, Andy.

[Mike Wright]

You have to pick one A lot of guns.

[Andy Holloway]

There's so many guns.

[Jason Moore]

It's a squirt gun.

[Andy Holloway]

Squirt gun to my head.

[Jason Moore]

Squirt gun to your eyeball. Which one? Full of assets.

[Andy Holloway]

You're asking me which 49er?

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm saying which quarterback Ryan Tannehill or Colin Kaepernick in this game produces more fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

It has to be Tannehill, doesn't it? Doesn't it have to be?

[Jason Moore]

Not with the. Doesn't have to be. For me, it's. It's all about that O line. If. If Albert gets back. I don't think Tunsil is going to be here this week. If. But if Albert gets back, then I would lean towards Tannehill. If not, I would go Kaepernick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's really difficult. I think the chance for laying a complete egg is. Is higher for Tannehill than it is for Kaepernick. I mean, because Kaepernick's gonna have to run for his life now. Do we know. I wanted to get a progress on that. Is Tori Smith out? Do we know if Torrey Smith is out in this game? Because I knew that there was a chance that he would be inactive in this game. I know he's questionable right now. Oh, he did practice on Tuesday. Okay. That is good news for Kaepernick. That is very good news because the Jeremy Curley and Quentin Patton show, it's. It's not a good one. All right, let's talk about the Rams and the Saints. Strength versus strength here. You know, the Rams, aside from about a three minute period, were a great defense last week. They've been a good defense. The Saints obviously are at home. They're seven point favorites. They're in the dome. I don't think. I guess I've talked myself into the realization that there is no hesitation starting a Saints player in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

I thought you were going to go with it's weakness versus weakness.

[Jason Moore]

True.

[Mike Wright]

Jared Goff versus the Saints pass defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, well, there is that.

[Mike Wright]

What's going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

I think they're going to have to pass the ball in this game because unlike most of the Rams games this year, where the Rams have just been, you know, on. They've been holding opposing offenses to very few points. They're not going to do that in the dome against Drew Brees. So I think you're going to have to see Goff open it up a little bit more. I am fine because of that. Starting Kenny Britt this week. I think if you look at, you know, Kenny Britt or some of those players we named earlier, they're going to have to throw the ball more than usual. And Kenny Britt's been okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Kenny Brett's been great. He's the 25th ranked wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So what we saw last week with Goff was Kenny Britt was okay. And that was in a, in a game where there were like five points scored for three and a half quarters.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. All right, Fair enough.

[Mike Wright]

Lance Kendricks, seven targets last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure, sure. I'm fine with Kendricks.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Doyle or Kendricks?

[Jason Moore]

Kendricks.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go with Kendricks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think I will too. When you look at the statistics, I think Kobe fleeners like the 13th ranked tight end on the year and you.

[Jason Moore]

Don'T ever want to start him and.

[Andy Holloway]

You never want to start him, but you also never want to not start him because he's had a couple of those like 30, you know, 25 point games. Is it time to just, I mean, Kendricks are Fleener, let's put it that way.

[Jason Moore]

That's a great question. To me, it's really a matter of, I mean, between Kendricks and Fleener. That's a matter of what my roster looks like and what I need because I think the floor is higher than Kendricks.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

You're not going to get a, you know, a.

[Andy Holloway]

But look at last week, Fleener gave you eight points, but he had two catches or whatever it was.

[Jason Moore]

Right. And so, you know, it was a touchdown. Kendricks has nowhere near the ceiling that Fleener has. So if I'm going up against a great opponent and I need a high game, then, then that's where I'm going.

[Andy Holloway]

Fleener, Ingram or Hightower against a very stout Rams defensive front. But the potential for this game to get out of hand and somebody to run the clock out. Who do you take in this matchup? Because Eileen Hightower this week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

And I hate saying that, but I.

[Jason Moore]

Do Eileen Hightower as well. Because of the concussion protocol, Mark Ingram is out. He's cleared. Right. But we do.

[Andy Holloway]

You're saying out of the concussion protocol because that sounded not at all like what you meant.

[Jason Moore]

That is a great clarification. Yes, he is out of the concussion protocol, meaning he is in.

[Andy Holloway]

Outstanding.

[Jason Moore]

He is in the game.

[Mike Wright]

He did because he's out.

[Jason Moore]

But while he is in, he just now is coming off of a concussion. And we have seen teams, you know, we saw firsthand with the Cardinals when John Brown was coming out of the concussion protocol. Sometimes you, if you have the option and the opportunity to say, hey, let's keep this guy from getting another blow to his head unnecessarily.

[Andy Holloway]

So this game, Hightower ends the game then.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

I completely agree. I think in the beginning they're splitting, split, splitting reps, and that could mean enough for Ingram to get a touchdown or two. But the way this game script looks. Eileen Hightower.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Eileen.

[Andy Holloway]

There was targets going his way.

[Mike Wright]

I want to say Ingram. I mean, Ingram. Look, last week, before the concussion, he was having a solid week. There was a point of the game where he was the team's leading rusher and the team's leading receiver for a while. So I'm not scared off of Ingram.

[Jason Moore]

I am, but just because of the matchup.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. But if I have to choose between both, that gut tells me that it's.

[Andy Holloway]

How are you going to rank Cook, Snead and Thomas this week with points?

[Jason Moore]

Are you saying order of those three or generally how they stack up against other wide receiving options?

[Andy Holloway]

I am asking the order. Like, how are you going to rank them compared to each other?

[Jason Moore]

I will go cooks. Michael Thomas, Willie Snead. The Michael Thomas vs Willie Snead is Michael Thomas is getting closer to a big question. We've seen Snead involved down near the goal line quite a bit more, and we've seen a couple bad games post the two fumbles, maybe getting in Michael Thomas's head, but I would still rank Michael Thomas ahead.

[Mike Wright]

Surprised Sean Payton didn't bench him immediately. Oh, he's not a running forever.

[Jason Moore]

He's not a running back. It's okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the running backs are the ones that really need that. That put through their head. All right, The Seahawks. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This game's in Tampa. What are you key on the Seahawks offense? Okay. Okay. Well, when you say that you made it. Me think you thought Tampa would do something against the Seahawks defense.

[Mike Wright]

I think they can do something, but it's just Seattle's offense. They're getting it going. Russell Wilson's looking healthier and healthier. Doug Baldwin starting to. Starting to get it going. I just. I like. I like a lot of what's happening here for the Seattle offense. Doesn't help that the Buccaneers difference is very bad.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I am all about Thomas Rawls in this game.

[Jason Moore]

I am as well, which we will get to.

[Andy Holloway]

I just saw that you. He is. He's somebody you want to talk about.

[Mike Wright]

I don't have to walk a machine.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we'll talk about him. Let's talk about the passing game that Mike alluded to. Russell Wilson And Doug Baldwin. Or maybe you could say Doug Baldwin and Russell Wilson. Oh, it's interchangeable now because who's going to throw the touchdown to the other guy? We don't know. We don't know. It could go either way. Now this is a, this is a good matchup and it's, we've talked about it for the last couple weeks of what we saw last year with the Seahawks is coming true again. Now, you know, I'm expecting really big things this week from Russell Wilson, you know, three touchdown type of game. But Vegas still doesn't have the line very high. And we saw last week when the Buccaneers faced Kansas City, it was a very low scoring game by both teams.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they same thing with Chicago the week before. They didn't give up a lot of points to the opposing quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe that, maybe that defense is getting it together a little bit. Does. Do either of you want to temper some expectations on my Russell Wilson multi touchdown?

[Andy Holloway]

Not really.

[Mike Wright]

3. I'm not calling for 3, but a 2 is a strong possibility for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask you this on the other side with Winston, we know we love the playoffs schedule for Winston. You've got the San Diego, the New Orleans, Dallas and New Orleans. So you probably own him for that schedule. Now you've got the Seattle game and you're probably saying, do I waste a bench spot on another starting guy? So would you start Winston if you had the option of signing a Tyrod Taylor at home against Jacksonville?

[Mike Wright]

Nope. I would, I would bench him. I picked up.

[Andy Holloway]

You would bench.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would bench him. I picked up Kirk Cousins to stream last week and I'm going to play Kirk Cousins again over Jameis.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Cousins has the nice matchup against Dallas in what should be a high scoring game. We went over that one. Okay. That's the questions that people ask, though. It's yes. You know, would you go pick up the Eli Manning against Cleveland and play him instead of.

[Mike Wright]

Probably.

[Andy Holloway]

I probably would too. Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm going to sit Winston in most leagues here. You're not going to have a great game against the Seahawks unless you are a great quarterback. And Winston is a great quarterback in the right matchups, not in the wrong ones. And this is a wrong one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree with that. So then what becomes of Doug Martin in this game against this difficult defense? I mean, is he a 2 or is he in the 3 category?

[Mike Wright]

Volume keeps him in as a 2. I mean, he's, he's the main runner. He doesn't have a guy like Charles Sims or I Don't expect jock quiz back. You don't have a that kind of scat back to take away his receptions as well. So he's pure volume can keep him in that running back too.

[Jason Moore]

I completely agree. I mean last week, right? Kansas City has a great rushing defense, but he got 24 carries and had a fine fantasy day with 60 plus yards on the ground and then 40 through the air. So Doug Martin, he's a must start every week. Good matchup, bad matchup. He just has the volume that most guys don't get and talent.

[Andy Holloway]

Anybody else in this game. I mean there's a lot of names. You're starting Jimmy Graham, then with all of the fortuitous opportunities for the Seattle Seahawks, Cameron Braid, I'll start him still Mike Evans you're not benching, but you probably aren't going to get what you want out of Evans. I mean, the Seahawks have given up. They've had more interceptions and touchdowns allowed this year.

[Jason Moore]

Who?

[Andy Holloway]

Nine interceptions, eight touchdowns allowed. That's just, that's called a ceiling that you're putting on your players.

[Mike Wright]

I tell you, look, Jameis Winston, please, please don't throw Richard Sherman one of these free interceptions.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I know.

[Mike Wright]

Like getting them where the wide receivers just quit on the route and Sherman doesn't.

[Andy Holloway]

And then like a game of 500. Yeah, throw it up.

[Mike Wright]

And they're like, well, I'm not going to get it. Except Richard Sermon manages to track it down. Wide receiver, what are you doing?

[Andy Holloway]

They need to play Sherman on both sides of the ball. All right. The Carolina Panthers take on the division leading dominating Oakland Raiders. I love the Raiders.

[Jason Moore]

They are a lot of fun right now. And good news for the Raiders, bad news for the human Luke Keakley. Probably not going to be in this game, obviously dealing with his second huge loss concussion in two years. And he is the cog of that, of that defense. I mean there is.

[Andy Holloway]

They almost lost that game after he went down last week.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I mean they were a dominating defense last game. He went out and all of a sudden it was like, oh, this is a lot easier. We can run, we can pass.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, is this line correct? Because I feel like that can't be right. If this game's in Oakland, I will.

[Jason Moore]

Vet it right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, please check the line for me because I haven't opened.

[Jason Moore]

Oakland is favored by.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so this line was wrong. The Raiders are four point fair is at home with the 49 point over.

[Jason Moore]

Under literally has changed in the last few minutes. Oakland is favored by three now. Any updates since Then since we started the show to now, the line has moved a whole.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, any updates on your end?

[Mike Wright]

Moving along.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Not very.

[Andy Holloway]

Car, you're starting him?

[Mike Wright]

Love him.

[Andy Holloway]

Cooper, Crabtree, do they bounce back this week at home?

[Mike Wright]

I would expect they both will, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The Raiders, how many points do they give up to the other side? Because I love Cam Newton this week. Really?

[Mike Wright]

Look, the Raiders defense has been getting better. Okay, Look, I know that their numbers, their overall numbers on the season are very skewed.

[Andy Holloway]

You do not like Cam Newtons.

[Mike Wright]

It's not that I mind playing him, he's a weekly starter but look, I mean how many times do we have to be fooled by Cam Newton?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a tough situation. I think this game is tough in general because while the Panthers might not have Keakley, I don't want to over read into their improved defensive performance since the bi week either. Or as in I don't want to over read into Keakley being out and then think it's going to be a complete smorgasbord for the Raiders side.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean if you have Cam, you're probably going to start him because I doubt you have another great option. But I'm kind of with Mike here in the sense that since the buy.

[Mike Wright]

He stunk against the Saints.

[Jason Moore]

Since the buy when their defense has been improved, you have three out of four games where he didn't reach 20 fantasy points in a six point per touchdown scoring system. And if you're under 20 in a six point scoring system, you had a very poor week. And that's three out of the last four weeks. Honestly, Luke Keakley going down, I don't want to overreact but it does probably help Cam Newton and Calvin Benjamin because if there's an extra touchdown scored in this game then that just is more points that the Carolina Panthers are going to have to put up. And you know, the Raiders defense has improved but they're not, you know, a scary force. So I'm fine starting Cam in this game. Fine starting Kelvin Benjamin in this game.

[Andy Holloway]

What is going on with Greg Olson? He is not delivering that frontline tight end production.

[Jason Moore]

I know exactly what happened, Cam.

[Mike Wright]

What happened?

[Jason Moore]

I traded for him when he was on fire and since then he has done nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

If only. All of our players always played great, you know. I know, right?

[Mike Wright]

If only Derek Anderson was the quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh come on.

[Mike Wright]

Greg Olsen would be very happy.

[Jason Moore]

So Greg Olson, he's still I think a must start. I mean you, you compare him to any other tight end out there. And he gets enough targets and is involved enough where you're not going to sit him. Even if he puts a stretch of three or four bad weeks together, you're still throwing him out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Guys, we have three matchups left before our starts of the week.

[Mike Wright]

I mean. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm now leaning further back in my chair than I was.

[Mike Wright]

No, get it, get it.

[Jason Moore]

I'm telling you, that's not even enough.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys have already. Next week, you have already told me that I'm allowed to pass out in the last 15 minutes of the.

[Jason Moore]

Well, no, we just predicted it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's the.

[Jason Moore]

That's the Patriots slowly starting right now. I'm gonna. I'm gonna switch sides with you, so. So Mike and I could just keep.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm good. All right.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Patriots and Jets. Ryan Fitzpatrick back behind center. Brandon Marshall back. Back to being all alone running around the field. We talked about Matt Forte on the show yesterday, how good of a year he's having. Your. Your starting Matt Forte, but are you starting any other Jets? And I am including Marshall in the conversation because Powell. You're starting Powell. Yeah, I'll play him.

[Mike Wright]

I'll flex him.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

This is like common sense out of your mouth.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that I.

[Andy Holloway]

That you would do. I mean, there are a lot of guys like this. How high do you have, Powell?

[Mike Wright]

I haven't ranked it yet, but I'm just. I expect that the Patriots can decimate the jets, and we're going to need some dump offs to the law, pal.

[Jason Moore]

He's had 11 receptions in the last two weeks, including a touchdown reception, and he's been involved. He is an okay flex. Desperation start. I mean, he's clearly not the guy you don't want to be starting the backup running back for a team, but if you have to, I think Bilal Powell is in that situation against the Patriots, who are going to score that you could be okay with. I would rather start Powell than Matt Aziata. You know, if you're looking at guys like that, the real question in this game comes down to what do you do with Brandon Marshall? The Patriots are known for taking out the best weapon of the opposing team. Brandon Marshall has been pooping his big boy pants with Fitzpatrick.

[Andy Holloway]

They're together.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And Fitzpatrick has been a nasty, nasty situation.

[Jason Moore]

It's really tough to know what to do with him.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, dudes, one diaper.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Jason Moore]

I can tell you, you know, right this second, I have chosen, and it could change, but I've chosen to start Brandon Marshall over James Starks. James Starks going to Philadelphia. And Brandon Marshall in this game, I mean, he has not been good for a while and really it's because of Ryan Fitzpatrick. But with Fitzpatrick, I mean, he had several really good games this year. You know, eight for 114 and a touchdown. Four for 89 and a touchdown. Eric Decker gets six for 101. Brandon, I believe. I believe one of those was post Eric Decker.

[Andy Holloway]

Brandon Marshall or DeAndre Hopkins this week?

[Mike Wright]

Marshall.

[Andy Holloway]

Brandon Marshall.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I'll go Hopkins. I'm switching.

[Andy Holloway]

You mentioned Devonte Parker earlier. Do you start Marshall or Parker?

[Jason Moore]

I was.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't believe that you have to think about that.

[Jason Moore]

I know.

[Mike Wright]

That's why.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the world we're living in. Marshall, I would go Marshall too. What about Marshall? Crabtree.

[Mike Wright]

Crabtree.

[Jason Moore]

Crabtree for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Marshall. Edelman.

[Jason Moore]

Edelman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. By a mile.

[Mike Wright]

Question for you guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

Let's say that Chris Hogan is out again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Malcolm Mitchell against a beatable jets secondary is a wide receiver. 3.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. I love Michael Keaton.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I was making this point to Jason yesterday that I really do believe in Malcolm Mitchell's ascension based on how Tom Brady talks about him. That doesn't mean anything beyond what you just said, that he's a three. But you know, Hogan's involvement is not high quantity targets. So I think there's a place for Marshall or. I'm sorry, for Mitchell. Yeah, so. So that's my take on that.

[Jason Moore]

But basically we're saying Mitchell over Amendola. Is that. Is that what you guys.

[Andy Holloway]

I would, I would.

[Jason Moore]

Because, you know, that's because I consider.

[Andy Holloway]

Last week a bit of an emergence. So I would take. I would try to cap, you know, if you're. If you're in deep leagues. Flyer zone. I'm flying with Mitchell.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would as well. I mean, we haven't seen, you know, in the. The second half of the season, we haven't seen Danny Amendola with more than one game over two catches. So Malcolm Mitchell, he looked great early this season.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, if you're in a league in where you reward players for selling out on every catch to the maximum, Amendola is actually the number one rated wider starter.

[Jason Moore]

Must start.

[Mike Wright]

Mitchell played 85 and a half percent of the snaps.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that last week. That's great. So you're starting Blunt.

[Andy Holloway]

You're starting Blunt. Do you start Lewis or White if you had to choose between them.

[Jason Moore]

Lewis.

[Mike Wright]

Lewis.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree with that. I agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

Would you start Lewis or Bilal Powell.

[Andy Holloway]

Powell.

[Jason Moore]

I think I would start Lewis.

[Andy Holloway]

How much. Do you think that?

[Jason Moore]

No, Certainly not enough to water bet. Certainly not enough.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I owe it to Dion Lewis. He's been on your bench all year. Don't you owe it to him to water bet on him?

[Jason Moore]

No, I've got him currently on my bench. I'm starting Brandon Marshall over him and I don't feel good about it. So don't you put that evil on me.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't mess with my snack cat knowledge.

[Jason Moore]

I talked about it earlier with Martella's Bennett, but I still think Bennett is a startable player here. Don't. Don't read too much into last week's lack of production. Tom Brady went where the guys were open to Julian Edelman.

[Andy Holloway]

Say.

[Mike Wright]

We talked about San Francisco. Very susceptible to slot receivers. And that turned into 17 targets for Jules.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Chiefs, Broncos. What I think is a very interesting, exciting, low scoring Sunday night football game. Inept offenses, divisional matchup. I love watching players disappoint fantasy owners. That's just the most fun. No, it's not. Kelsey, though, is coming off a great game. I really like Kelsey. You know, last week you saw Tyreek Hill produce some pretty production.

[Jason Moore]

Well done, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

The Megalodon takes another.

[Andy Holloway]

Megalodon takes another. Yeah, that's good. You want to produce production. Goodness sakes. That's going to end up on a Twitter account that I don't want it to. Guys, what are you doing in this matchup? I mean, I don't like Smith. You can't play Smith. I don't like Simeon. You can't play Simeon. Spencer Ware, you can roll out there. I don't like any of the running backs on the Denver side.

[Mike Wright]

He doesn't. I'm okay with him.

[Andy Holloway]

With who?

[Mike Wright]

With Booker. Ah, look, he's.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess if you gotta.

[Mike Wright]

He's been disappointing, but he's still been the main guy. There was all those, oh, Capri bibs. He's gonna get more work. Yeah. Because Booker still.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason sitting over there. I don't know what he's thinking about.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I'm just. I'm looking up things on Travis Kelsey in the past. Defense for Denver. You know, when it comes to who you start from Kansas City, I think you look at the running game and you look at Travis Kelsey, I think you can start those guys and that's it.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know how many points that Kansas City is going to score in this game? Because I can tell you.

[Jason Moore]

Please. I would love to know.

[Andy Holloway]

13. 10.8.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Because the Broncos defense allows 10.8 per game and the Chiefs offense averages 10.8 per game.

[Jason Moore]

There you have it.

[Andy Holloway]

So it's 10.8 and Spencer Warehouse.

[Mike Wright]

We had big expectations for him last week. He was still okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Where's he been?

[Mike Wright]

Where? The Bahamas?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not been what you wanted.

[Mike Wright]

He's still a fine play this week. You can beat the Broncos on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. And to your point, the Chiefs have allowed four rushing touchdowns. Oh, no, not to your point. Yes. They've only allowed four rushing touchdowns, which is first in the league. So good luck. Booker, you better catch some passes.

[Mike Wright]

Are we still good with demarius and Emanuel?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm as good as I've been all year with those two. Would you agree with that?

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Feeling fine.

[Andy Holloway]

If Macklin misses again, you, I just bump. Tyree Kill?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Connolly?

[Jason Moore]

Nope. Bert? Keep going.

[Andy Holloway]

Kelsey.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

It's probably good we're at the guessing part of the show now.

[Mike Wright]

Go finish strong, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Monday Night Football. I think by then I will have digested some of the Thanksgiving Day meal.

[Jason Moore]

We're almost to the starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. Very soon. Very soon.

[Jason Moore]

Packers Eagles.

[Andy Holloway]

Packers Eagles.

[Jason Moore]

Eagles favored by four with an over under of 47 and a half points by Vegas first. What are you taking? You think more points than 47 and a half or less?

[Andy Holloway]

More?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'll take the over.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Wentz is going to have an okay game in this one. We've seen the packers defense, or lack thereof.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to take the under.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

It's. It's tough to take the under with how bad the packers defense has been. But I guess what I'm saying here is that the Eagles defense in Philly has absolutely just decimated some really good offenses this year. I mean, you saw it when Big Ben went over there and they trounced him. That defense, when they are at home, plays electric, and that scares me a little bit. For all of the packers love, I mean, you're still going to have. You're definitely starting Aaron Rodgers and you're starting Jordy Nelson and there's a lot of questions. I mean, you. You know, Adams, Cobb, do you start those guys because they've been putting up so many points over the last few weeks?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I do. I'm going to start Adams this week. I've made that decision already. I think that, you know, you're in a position here where I would take the over. That's just my side. Now, what is unfortunate for fantasy owners is the Wendell Smallwood situation, because if you went out and signed him today, you might have a great play, but it's Monday night, so if you aren't the Sprolls owner or the Matthews owner, what do you do with Smallwood? I mean, if you're in a flex position, maybe you can grab a, you know, an emergency guy from, you know, I don't know, maybe it's Nelson Aguilar or something.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Unless there's breaking news over the weekend, I'm with you that if you don't have Sproules or Matthews, then I'm not trying to play small, but I'm not counting on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's the thing is he could be great, but you're high risk. If you don't have those other guys.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you're looking at probably like Richard Rogers grabbing him off the Wave.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I mean.

[Jason Moore]

It's just.

[Andy Holloway]

Or maybe it's Cook. I mean, I don't know what it is. You're not happy.

[Jason Moore]

No. You're not happy. You know, the good pieces to play here are certainly your Jordan Matthews, your Zach Ertz. To me, I think both those guys should be fine against the Green Bays defense that has just become full blown inept.

[Andy Holloway]

The Green base, indeed.

[Jason Moore]

The Green Bay defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, I know what the Green Bay defense is. I don't know what the.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't say that.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know what the Green Bay's defense is.

[Jason Moore]

And here, just to speak quickly to the point of how different the Eagles defense has been when they are at home, I want to read you the fantasy points that quarterbacks have put up against them and whether it was home or on the road, because it started with Big Ben putting up eight and a half total fantasy points against, against them in Philly. Then they went on a road trip to Detroit and Washington where they gave up 27 and 23 points. Then Minnesota came to Philly. Granted, not the best offense, but still only 9.4 fantasy points scored in that game. Followed by another road trip to Dallas and New York where they gave up 32 both weeks. Then Matt Ryan, right, the number one offense of Atlanta goes to Philly and he only scores 18 points in a six point per touchdown league. They go on the road, Russell Wilson scores 29. Now they're back at home. I'm just, I am saying that the Green Bay offense that has been on fire is they will impress me if they put up another 30 points in this game.

[Andy Holloway]

The one thing about the Green Bay offenses, I feel like they can both struggle and produce fantasy points for Aaron Rodgers at the identical Moment.

[Jason Moore]

It's really true.

[Andy Holloway]

But very, very good points there. I mean, you may have to. Temporary. I would talk more about Zach Ertz, but I will in a minute. Are you gentlemen ready to move on here?

[Mike Wright]

As soon as you answer this question. Just came in off the presses from a friend because we're talking about Jordan Matthews. Jordan Matthews. Robert Kelly. Are done. Dante Moncrief.

[Jason Moore]

Robert Kelly.

[Andy Holloway]

Kelly.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, then. Moncrief or Jordan Matthews?

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Matthews.

[Andy Holloway]

Matthews.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Asking for a friend.

[Mike Wright]

Just completely unrelated to the lineup that I just said.

[Jason Moore]

Sweet starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm starting pumpkin pie. Clearly, at this point in time, my wife's pumpkin pie is something to be revered. It's a first round draft pick. If we were drafting. If we were going to draft Thanksgiving Day, we should do this after the starts of the week. We should do a Thanksgiving Day draft.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. Draft that. And I'm just saying I have to give a shout out. I have to, because I am. I am not always Mr. Homemake. Everyone's always, oh, you got to try my homemade. You know, sometimes. Look, Stovetop is better than your homemade stuff, right? Just.

[Andy Holloway]

I like the cranberry in a can better than any of that other stuff.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm so. The real cranberries. No, thank you. Give me.

[Andy Holloway]

Give me that.

[Jason Moore]

That wobbly gelatin sometimes delicious. Look, when a company like Stovetop has perfected it, they're done. Okay. And so I hear all the time, oh, you gotta try my homemade pumpkin pie. I love pumpkin pie. I love it. But give me the Costco pumpkin pie because it's just great. I know it's great.

[Andy Holloway]

It's pumpkin pie.

[Jason Moore]

And your wife was like, no, no, no. You gotta try my homemade pumpkin pie. I hear that all the time. You're like, oh, she. She makes it great. It's the best. And I'm like, I hear this all the time. Yeah, I. I was almost brought to tears with how good this pumpkin pie was. It was the best thing I have ever. I mean, it was.

[Andy Holloway]

I know you were hesitant because your first slice was. It was thinner than a normal Jason Moore slice.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't want to eat it because I didn't want to have to tell Brie, this is really good. Thanks. Instead, I got to be like, you're leaving this here or we're not friends. So anyways, shout out to your wife's pumpkin pie.

[Andy Holloway]

That voice you did was exactly what Big Ben does when Marcus Whedon catches a pass. Very, very good.

[Jason Moore]

Very good.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Starts of the week, for real. Before we do the impromptu Thanksgiving Day draft, I'm going with Big Ben. Look, I've put it out there already. I've made a water bet. Big Ben is my. Is my start of the week at the quarterback position. I know the numbers, I know him on the road, and I know I disagree completely with Jason, which was makes us great because one of us will be really right and really wrong.

[Jason Moore]

I can't wait to gloat over you.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, look, he's gonna have to do something different than the last two games against Indy when he had 10 touchdowns and zero picks. Look, I think Pittsburgh needs to win. They're in a dogfight for that division. The Colts have giving up 16 touchdowns to quarterbacks in the last seven games. So it's not just.

[Jason Moore]

Those are a lot of good numbers for your.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not just Big Ben's history with them. It is their history with all quarterbacks in the last seven. Never less than two in a game. And so I think he's safe with upside has it all the complete Thanksgiving package.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, I guess since we've been battling and we've got a water bet, I will go to my quarterback, which is the Dak Attack himself, Dak Prescott. You have to stay in the flames. When a guy is this hot, he's been absolutely on fire. And Washington should make for one of those high scoring matchups where you know Kirk Cousins and all those weapons, they're going to score. Dallas has a decent defense, but they're not a lockdown defense. This is going to be a game where Vegas is saying it's going to be over 50 points scored and Dax going to be able to keep up. And he's been on fire. He can get it done with his legs. He can get it a rushing touchdown. He could throw multiple touchdowns. And since Dakota, Des Bryant has been back, Dax fantasy production has been great. You got Dak, you got the Bezels. Start Dak Prescott. More importantly, start Dak Prescott over Big Ben Roethlisberger.

[Mike Wright]

Did you.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanksgiving battle. I love it.

[Mike Wright]

Did you both play tomorrow?

[Andy Holloway]

It's awesome. It's so awesome. I'll be watching that closely.

[Mike Wright]

You may have already known this. I didn't. I just never even thought about this. You know his real name is Dakota Prescott.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't know that that name is.

[Jason Moore]

What are you doing?

[Mike Wright]

Shortening to the. To Dak. Man, you gotta be Dakota Prescott.

[Jason Moore]

Are you kidding me? I. My name was Dakota. My name would immediately no longer be Dakota.

[Mike Wright]

Do you realize if you have that name Is great.

[Andy Holloway]

Doctor. The doctor walks in.

[Mike Wright]

That's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

The doctor walks in with a sheriff badge the day you're born, if you're born. Dakota Prescott. He walks in with a sheriff badge and a hat and he puts it on you and then you, you go to Westworld and a whip because you.

[Mike Wright]

Are an archaeologist extraordinaire.

[Jason Moore]

Dakota Prescott.

[Andy Holloway]

That's amazing. Thank you for that insight. Who's your starter?

[Mike Wright]

Ridiculous. Over here.

[Jason Moore]

Jason. I know.

[Mike Wright]

Speaking of ridiculous, the people like Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

That made him short it to Dak. That's what happened. All right, go on with your start.

[Mike Wright]

Derek Carr, he's been up and down. I pumped the brakes on him a few weeks back because the matchups were not for him. He is. He's not a must start guy for me. He is a matchup dependent guy. And I know the Panthers d, they're reemerging, but we talked about Luke Keakley. It's unfortunate he's not going to play or he's very doubtful to play. There's no timetable on his return. Derek Carr is at home. I think the matchup is plus for him. So I'm going to send in the car with with no hesitation this week.

[Andy Holloway]

I wish I could give you that drop right now. I feel so disappointed in myself. It's a bold play. What I love about the Raiders this year is that they at some point in the game he seems to make some ridiculously big play. Last week we saw with the fullback. You saw one to Cooper. I like it. Irony here. I'm going to go to my running back start of the week. Ironically, in me and Jason's matchup this week, we have made our start of the weeks the opposite players. Running back. I am going with Rashad Jennings. I don't know what else I need to say other than Cleveland's 31st against the run. Rashad Jennings is trending up right now. Cleveland's given up eight touchdowns in the last five games to running backs and this is a mind blowing. I had to put this in here. Here's the yardage. They've given up the running backs in the last five weeks. 271, 158, 109, 146. Oh one.

[Mike Wright]

Skipped 148.

[Andy Holloway]

I skipped 148. Yikes is all I can say. Rashad Jennings. You should be happy you have him on your roster. Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Jason Moore]

That's the Rolls Royce warming up.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no bubble machine in the night.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes it is. Yes, it is.

[Mike Wright]

Andy Holloway, Monster from Pitch black.

[Jason Moore]

It is all things. It is the Thomas Ross scenes that is coming. And it is coming for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And those Buccaneers are going to hop on their ship and they're going to sail away because the Thomas Rawls Royce is officially upon us. Look, he has the backfield to himself. Everyone else not named Alex Collins is gone. Alex Collins is not so good. Thomas Rawls last week he looked like a man running with a death wish. Not for himself, but for everyone who tried to tackle him. He was standing up after every play, acting. I was expecting him to just burst out of the clothes, turn green, because he was a monster. And now with CJ Prosise gone, with Kristen Michael gone, and with a nice matchup three out of the last four weeks, Tampa Bay has given up 100 yards on the ground. I am. If you got Thomas Rawls on the bench.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I won't State.

[Andy Holloway]

I won't. I'll have him in there against you.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. Gonna be so bad.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I'm going with. I'm going with another or not another. Sorry. Going with an old man. And I guess another old man with as Andy went with Rashad Jennings are going with Frank Gore.

[Andy Holloway]

You know his original name was Franklin Gorbachev. You did not know that?

[Mike Wright]

I did not know. Is that Wikipedia?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's his full name.

[Jason Moore]

You just get like a Russian.

[Andy Holloway]

You didn't know he's Russian?

[Mike Wright]

No, I did not know.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a rusher.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Mike Wright]

Very nice.

[Jason Moore]

Franklin Gorbachev.

[Mike Wright]

He's a Russian. For some touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

The puns are thick at the end of a megalodon, in case you're wondering.

[Jason Moore]

The wheels fall off.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Mike, what's falling off for Pittsburgh? Cameron Hayward, their best run defender. He's out. He's on to ir. Luck is out. We might see the Colts have to rely on Frank Gore a little bit more. He's been spectacular all year. I just read it off to. If you're not watching the YouTube, you're missing out. I just read off the numbers to these guys. I said, how many times in our scoring, our half point format has Frank Gore been under double digit points? The answer was once because he had 9.8.

[Jason Moore]

That's unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

He's been spectacular all round up. Yeah, you got to round that up to 10. He could get even more work, like I said, because Scott told Zine is if he's not worried yet, it'll take about two snaps before he's very worried and saying, frank or please take the ball away from Me?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Tolzine rhymes with ruptured spleen and it actually does. It actually does.

[Jason Moore]

That's funny.

[Andy Holloway]

I had to go to the rhyme master for his approval. All right, give it. Why don't you kick off the wide receivers then?

[Mike Wright]

All right, I'm going with. I gave the Seattle offense a big key. Doug Baldwin. We go by the NBA Jam Rules. You got one for me? Oh, look, he is. We go by NBA Jam Rules on here. The most solid, very official analysis. Very astute, scientific, but it's proven true three times. You are on fire. And he is definitely on fire. He's throwing touchdowns, he's catching touchdowns. He's doing everything possible. He's having monster games. I love him. Against the Tampa Bay defense.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm going to go with. Well, I'll let Jason do it first. He give us yours.

[Jason Moore]

My wide receiver is going to stay hot. I think this is. He is already heating up now. He's going to catch fire this game. That's Julian Edelman. Look, with Gronk out, with Hogan possibly out, we saw last week Julian Edelman had 17 targets. He was both one of the highest fantasy producers for wide receiver and one of the players who left the most fantasy production on the field with missed opportunities. You put those things together, and that is great. Coming up this week, I think I am fully on board. Julian Edelman. You've got the jets run defense where last time when they faced the jets, they decided that their game plan was just going to be to run through the air, as we say. And that's going to be your Dion Lewis, James Light, Julian Edelman. So Julian Edelman, to me, here is a great play. I'm definitely starting him.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm staying in the Flames with my guy as well. Richard, Matthew.

[Mike Wright]

Your guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, my selection for the day, not my guy as in I'm taking ownership of him.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the train.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I am impressed, though. Richard Matthews.

[Jason Moore]

We did it, Mike. We convinced him of.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, he's convinced me. It wasn't you guys. Look, he's already a wide receiver, too, overall for the year. The misconception about the Chicago pasty is that they're good because they're not. Not for fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

They were for a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Not for fantasy purposes. I mean, you go back and you look at the amount of points given up. We talked about how few touchdowns they gave out to wide receivers last year. It's through the roof this year. And they've given up the most fantasy points to wide receivers on the year at this point. Now and the wheels have fallen off. He's the number four fantasy wide receiver in total points since week five. Rashard Matthews is number eight in fantasy points per game. Do you know what that is? An auto start. Automatic auto start.

[Mike Wright]

Number four since week five. And he was available on about half of waiver wires on Tuesday.

[Andy Holloway]

Look. But they're for every Rashad Matthews case. And to make it, to tell the truth about this, for Shard Matthews, there's another inman, Benjamin. Whatever. Benjamin. Right where you go and you grab them and they don't, they don't pan out. So people, when you see that in the middle of the year after you've already struggled, people are hesitant to jump on board. If you get the right guy, you're happy. So Rashad Matthews started the week at the wide receiver position. And I'll finish out my starts with Zach Ertz. Eight catches, six catches. Six catches the past three weeks. You really. If I just told you that number for tight end, that should be enough for you to start a tight end. Last week he scored, which has been one of his problems. He also had a huge score called back thanks to Nelson Aguilar. The repetitive error of Nelson Aguilar.

[Mike Wright]

Poor guy.

[Andy Holloway]

And here you take that last three weeks and you mix it up with the great matchup against Green Bay, who was torched by Delaney Walker a couple weeks ago and been giving up double digits to tight ends. It's the Zach Ertz hour. I think it's going to be a great game for Zach Ertz. I'm very confident starting.

[Mike Wright]

I'm jumping in here. Gary Varnage, really. I talked about it earlier. Let me give you some splits which.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, don't, don't do the splits because I don't want to see that.

[Mike Wright]

These are not the Jean Claude splits. These are Gary Barnage with and without Josh McGowan, 2 for 27, 4 for 50. Okay, now we're talking about. It's. That's a low level tight end one. I can get behind those numbers. They're. The Giants are talked about. Their secondary is very good. I pumped the brakes on Terrell Pryor, Jenorris Jenkins. Very good. They're allowed their 20th against tight ends for points allowed. They've allowed 368 yards to the tight end position over the last four games. So they can be beat there. It's going to be Josh McCowan. We talked about. Seven of Barnage's 10 touchdowns are from Josh McCown. I think you can play him this week and have. And feel good about it.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, okay. I'm going to go with Kyle Rudolph as my start of the week. He has been very hot and then very cold and then very hot and then very cold. Well, he's coming off of a cold matchup which grants it.

[Mike Wright]

Like eating a hot Pocket.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, exactly. And you're about to get solid. You're about to get to that part that will destroy your mouth, as Jim Gaffigan would say. And that's Kyle Rudolph against Detroit. Detroit is the second worst team in the league against tight ends for fantasy production. They have just a hole on their defense that can be filled by Kyle Rudolph and he wants to fill it up. You also have Stefan Diggs fill it up. You also have Stefan Diggs we talked about earlier who might be or might miss the game. You know, two days before game, he's already complete. Did not participate in practice. That's a good sign. So I think Rudolph is one of those guys where Rudolph really usually the.

[Andy Holloway]

Holidays are his time, too.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you know it.

[Andy Holloway]

The red zone reindeer.

[Jason Moore]

You got him on Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

The Lions, in 7 of 10 games, 7 of 10 at tight end, has scored a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, his nose is going to be burning bright.

[Mike Wright]

Burning bright.

[Jason Moore]

Burning on. It's. It's late in a megalodon and Kyle Rudolph will score a touchdown. You hard at hair first to that end.

[Andy Holloway]

Guys, look real quick. We're each drafting. It's a two round. It's a two round Thanksgiving Day draft. We got to get this done before my head slams into the keyboard here.

[Mike Wright]

People are not going to like my second round draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Because look, I'm putting our names into a randomizer really quick.

[Jason Moore]

How are we doing this? With a little Rochambeau or what?

[Andy Holloway]

Hold on, hold on.

[Jason Moore]

See, Andy, just for all of our listeners, while you pull up a randomizer that is much more fair than Rochambeau. Andy would never Rochambeau. Because I beat him every time.

[Andy Holloway]

Snake draft, two rounds, Thanksgiving. Jason gets the first pick. But do you want the first pick? Because I got back to back.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely do not want the first pick because I know what these three teams.

[Andy Holloway]

Are going on to Twitter and we're voting for the best team.

[Jason Moore]

I know what the number one is and I think that I can get him. Even though that's going to then be the last pick of the draft. I think I can get it. Gonna. I'm gonna risk it and I'm going to punt my true number one because I think I'll get them. I'll never get this one. I'm taking the mashed potatoes smooth. Oh, no. They got to be smooth.

[Mike Wright]

Lumpy potatoes are an immediate cut.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, this is the perfect. This is my wife's perfect mashed potatoes. You can't beat them. Those are the number one draft pick.

[Andy Holloway]

I am. I'm stressing right now because I'm on the turn, but Mike picks before me, and if I. If what I want doesn't fall to me, I'm gonna be disappointed. Mike, what do you got?

[Mike Wright]

Look, I have no intentions of winning this on Twitter. I'm just gonna give some fire takes. That are my true opinions here.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoa.

[Mike Wright]

So my number one. We talked about it earlier. I'm talking about the canned cranberries.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Because real cranberries are the woat.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the woat. All. All cranberries are cranberries.

[Mike Wright]

Are the cranberries. Like, hey, we got a fruit.

[Andy Holloway]

So you got the cranberries.

[Jason Moore]

You could have got the cranberries in the seventh round.

[Andy Holloway]

I intentionally sit at the place at the table where the cranberries have been set, the canned cranberries, because they are delicious. They are good.

[Mike Wright]

They shake, they shimmy. Jason knows about that.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what I like to do? I like to win. And you know what I'm going to do? I'm a win with two picks real easy right here.

[Jason Moore]

Don't you do it to me.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got turkey and pumpkin pie.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Turkey and pumpkin pie have been selected because there is nothing more core. Look, nobody wants to draft Gore, but Gore wins. You. I'm drafting.

[Jason Moore]

That's good.

[Andy Holloway]

Turkey is the Gore draft pick, and pumpkin pie is the Julio.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, you. You've got. You've got the main dinner, and you've got the main dessert. I think you could win on Twitter, but the actual best is still out there, and I hope it's not what Mike takes right here.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to make a draft day trade and swap back to Jason because I know that I'm going to catch some flack for my picks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I love it. I accept your trade.

[Andy Holloway]

You just made a trade.

[Jason Moore]

I will take what should have gone number one. Number one in the draft because. Don't give me this turkey nonsense.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you going dry.

[Jason Moore]

It's nasty. I'm going ham. I'm going. This is a fantasy football show, and I'm going ham.

[Andy Holloway]

Why is that relevant?

[Jason Moore]

Because it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Why would ham make it.

[Mike Wright]

Players go ham.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the party, Andy. I'm going ham and mashed potatoes. I could be good with just that for life. I'm talking honey baked. Okay, this is. And that's a point of clarification. Honey baked ham and perfect mashed potatoes.

[Andy Holloway]

You got mashed potato and ham. I get that. I've got turkey and pumpkin pie. Locked and loaded.

[Jason Moore]

Let's find the disgusting Micah's cranberries.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm going to throw it out. Is it deviled eggs?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you deviled eggs?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I love deviled eggs.

[Andy Holloway]

They're awesome. I had to think about it.

[Jason Moore]

I'm lucky this isn't a three round draft.

[Mike Wright]

No, this is stuffing. This is a food that not. It cannot be found in the entire country. It can only be found in the western half. I am not a big fan of Thanksgiving. I've talked about beans. No, I'm not a. I'm not a huge fan of Thanksgiving food. I have a tradition. Every Thanksgiving for dinner, I go get jack in the box and I get a double cheeseburger meal to cleanse my palate of the worst food that is Thanksgiving. I stand by this. I knew it would be. I knew I'd get the head shakes. No, that's just.

[Andy Holloway]

He just killed Thanksgiving with that answer.

[Jason Moore]

He killed Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

You know, if I did. You're welcome, America.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness. You know what? I think we need one more gavel on there because. Definitely not verified.

[Andy Holloway]

Definitely. And on that note, we're closing this show out. I want to remind everybody the avast giveaway [e-mail] if you wake up in the morning and you want to win something, you pretty much can go to Footclang giveaway.com because there's always new stuff going on over there. Go check that out. Do not miss out on your trophies for your leagues. There's one place to get them in one place only, fantasyjocks.com so don't miss out on that. Use the promo code footballers to save some extra chaos.

[Mike Wright]

We've. We've never been louder than that Thanksgiving segment.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Mike has no hope, but I'm curious about the ham taters versus turkey and pumpkin pie. Enjoy your sourdough Jack.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I will.

[Jason Moore]

Sourdough Jack. Yes. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot. Com and follow us on twitter @the ffballers.