Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Mock Draft Episode!

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast 2016 - Mock Draft Episode! Release Date: June 16, 2016

In this engaging episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve deep into a comprehensive mock draft session. Aimed at helping listeners refine their draft strategies, the trio navigates through player rankings, positional value, and late-round gambles with their characteristic blend of expertise and camaraderie.

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1. Mock Draft Kickoff

The episode begins with light-hearted banter among the hosts, setting a relaxed yet focused tone for the mock draft. Jason Moore emphasizes the importance of drafting as a cohesive unit, highlighting moments of humor that ease into the strategic discussions.

Jason Moore [02:48]: "We're gonna be using fantasydraftwizard.com making the decisions as a unit, as a group, as the fantasy footballers, and walking you through some of our thought process."

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2. Draft Position and Early Picks

Drafting from the ninth position in a 12-team league, the hosts discuss the implications of their spot on the Snake draft format. They analyze the significance of early-round picks and the scarcity of elite running backs in a standard scoring format.

Mike Wright underscores the value of securing reliable running backs early, especially in standard leagues where touchdowns hold substantial weight.

Mike Wright [08:33]: "In a standard league, specifically where we've got two running backs, two wide receivers and a flex, the running back position is a little bit more scarce."

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3. Running Back Strategies

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to debating the merits of various running backs like Dion Lewis and Jeremy Langford. The hosts weigh the risks and potentials of each, considering factors like injury history and team offensive dynamics.

Andy Holloway [07:25]: "Lewis got to get a bump."

The discussion evolves into a broader analysis of running back selection, with Jason Moore advocating for Mark Ingram over higher-risk options due to his consistent performance and touchdown potential.

Jason Moore [14:11]: "I think Mark Ingram was the guy that kind of jumps off to me as a first-round running back."

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4. Wide Receiver Considerations

Transitioning to wide receivers, the hosts express concerns over the depth and consistency of the position. They discuss the challenge of finding top-tier wide receivers as the draft progresses, underscoring the importance of balancing running back and wide receiver selections.

Andy Holloway [17:49]: "If this was my team, I would go with a wide receiver here."

They explore options like Julian Edelman and Eric Decker, debating their reliability and potential to anchor the wide receiver corps.

Jason Moore [27:06]: "I'm looking for the same. Who's safer than Edelman and Decker from a reception and a red zone target standpoint."

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5. Tight End and Quarterback Picks

As the draft moves into deeper rounds, the focus shifts to tight ends and quarterbacks. The hosts deliberate on the timing of these positions, contemplating whether to secure a tight end early or wait for value in later rounds. The discussion also touches on the viability of drafting quarterbacks like Tony Romo and Matthew Stafford in the tenth round, evaluating their upside against injury risks.

Mike Wright [32:32]: "Tyler Eiferd is the pick right here versus a fourth wide receiver or a fourth running back."

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6. Finalizing the Roster

In the concluding rounds, Andy Holloway and Mike Wright assess the remaining roster spots, considering late-round gems and potential breakout players. The episode wraps up with a reflection on the team's strength and the strategic choices made throughout the draft process.

Jason Moore [50:15]: "If we have taken, like, I don't know, desean Jackson, Jeremy Macklin or something, and you look at this team, you don't really feel comfortable. But when you slide in guys like Deckard and Edelman to supplement the powerhouse running backs, you feel kind of comfortable."

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7. Final Thoughts and Takeaways

The hosts conclude by affirming their satisfaction with the drafted team, emphasizing the importance of a balanced roster and the foundation laid during the mock draft. They encourage listeners to trust their unique draft strategies and adapt based on league dynamics.

Mike Wright [50:43]: "Build your foundation. This is a good foundation team where we can go and win a championship."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore [04:48]: "It's always fun to be able to do like live research on the air because every mock draft you do, we encourage our listeners to mock draft everyone."
• Andy Holloway [23:29]: "That's what we'll have to do. You'll have to eat some bananas on the air."
• Mike Wright [46:22]: "If he plays a full 16, I've got a starter for 16 games."

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Key Takeaways:

• Positional Value: Emphasis on securing running backs early in standard leagues due to their scarcity and high touchdown potential.
• Flexibility: Encouragement to balance between running backs and wide receivers, adapting based on the draft flow.
• Late-Round Gems: Exploration of late-round options with high upside, such as Dante Moncrief and Torrey Smith, to bolster the roster without overreaching.
• Quarterback Strategy: Advocating for drafting quarterbacks in later rounds to maximize value, selecting reliable studs without sacrificing early-round picks on other positions.

This mock draft episode offers invaluable insights for fantasy football enthusiasts, blending strategic analysis with the hosts' trademark humor and teamwork. Whether you're a seasoned player or a newcomer, the Fantasy Footballers provide actionable strategies to optimize your draft and build a championship-worthy team.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Hey, this is David Johnson, running back of the Arizona Cardinals, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Welcome to the Fantasy Callers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the show. We've got a good one today, guys.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. Who doesn't love a mock?

[Jason Moore]

A mock. We love to mock. In fact, I was with my father earlier today having lunch, and believe it or not, out front, out front of the studio, your door, the trunk of your car kept opening up.

[Mike Wright]

I heard about this year. I saw your father.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the trunk of Jason's car, it.

[Andy Holloway]

Wasn'T just sitting open. It continued.

[Jason Moore]

No, we were sitting in the car ready to leave for lunch. I was gonna have a nice lunch with my dad, and Jason's car's trunk just opens.

[Mike Wright]

Hops open.

[Jason Moore]

And of course I go. I said, well, Jason probably sat on his remote and he said, you know, you guys give Jason a hard time? And I said, yeah, yeah, we do.

[Andy Holloway]

His trunk just opened and he's nowhere near here.

[Mike Wright]

Well, here's the best part.

[Andy Holloway]

Nor does he know the trunk is open.

[Mike Wright]

No. And then they went to lunch.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I think I said the odds of that happening increased because it was Jason like, that the car trunk would just randomly open. And then I came back from lunch and guess what?

[Mike Wright]

The trunk was open after you had closed it?

[Jason Moore]

Right after I had got out and closed it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The keys were in my pocket and.

[Jason Moore]

He wanted to, like, steal stuff out of the back and make a big deal. And I was like, well, you know, he's Jason. We'll give him a break.

[Mike Wright]

That's the first nice thing you've ever said. I love you too, Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

I would check your trunk immediately.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, check the trunk. But welcome to the Show Andy, Mike and Jason back again. We've got a standard mock draft on the show today. Always a fun episode. We're gonna be using fantasydraftwizard.com making the decisions as a unit, as a group, as the fantasy footballers, and walking you through some of our thought process.

[Andy Holloway]

Occasionally dangerous.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the dangerous picks or dangerous thought process or both.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I was picking together as a unit.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's occasionally dangerous. Yeah, that's. That's majority rules at that point when we. When we disagree and Jason wants Latavius with the first round pick. What else do we got going on, though? We got the podcast awards that just finished voting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The voting is done. We will not.

[Jason Moore]

Big thank you to everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, A huge, huge, huge monster. Thank you to all the Foot Clan for getting out there and voting daily. We know that the struggle is real of the daily vote we get.

[Jason Moore]

I hate asking for it, but I love our Foot Clan for it because we knew they'd deliver and we need.

[Andy Holloway]

We got to deliver. We got to get it done. We will not know of our impending victory. We won't know. Hopefully we get a victory here the 22nd, June 22nd. It is a Wednesday. That is the tentative date for a live stream of the awards. So you can watch with us.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And you can celebrate with us.

[Jason Moore]

Find out if you did enough.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you can either celebrate with us or know that I am dead in the street in a gutter somewhere.

[Jason Moore]

You know, Mike is gonna take it hard, so you can comfort him on Twitter ffhitman. You can follow the show at the ffballers on Twitter jasonffl. I am Andy Holloway. We're also on YouTube, the fantasy sports Network, as well as Facebook. And definitely check out jointhefoot.com we just got done giving away our first monthly giveaway over there. Gave away a David Johnson jersey, gave away a Jameis Winston McFarlane and a bunch of stickers and things like that. So I've got a good quick question for you guys. You don't know what it is and that makes it all the better because.

[Andy Holloway]

It is not in our notes.

[Jason Moore]

Nope. I'm going to make you pick right here on the spot. These are guys that you have really close in your rankings. Two running backs. And I'm going to make you. I'm going to make test your mic. Basically this is a pre mock test. You're on the clock. These two guys are sitting there. You got to draft one of them and their names are Dion Lewis and Jeremy Lankford. And now you got to make a pick Scoring format. The scoring format is.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just kidding. It doesn't matter. It's Dion Lewis.

[Jason Moore]

Dion Lewis.

[Andy Holloway]

Lewis.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you better change your rankings, buddy.

[Andy Holloway]

I will.

[Jason Moore]

You got them Back to back, 26, 27. But you do have Lankford ahead right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Dion Lewis right there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think I would go. Jeremy Langford, he's. He's the clear cut starter.

[Jason Moore]

And you'll need to change the rankings as well because you have them back to back. Well, we're opposite.

[Mike Wright]

We're back to back. Oh, you've got them in half. That's in half.

[Jason Moore]

This is half point. And I actually, I take Dion Lewis as well. I've got him 20, got length for 25 as of today.

[Andy Holloway]

That's really. Wait, we all have him that close?

[Jason Moore]

I have. I have Lewis 20 length for 25.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Mike, you have 26, 27 back to back. And then Jason, you're 17.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Lewis got to get a bump.

[Jason Moore]

But for us as a group, Lewis is the consensus 21 and Lankford is the consensus 22. So all of the closeness of those rankings, it came out to exactly what we really believe. And so I guess that means trust the consensus rankings.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep, I guess so.

[Jason Moore]

So Dion Lewis, I'm having more and more confidence in him coming back. It's interesting because I'll bring this up point. This point up as well. Thomas Rawls. Thomas Rawls is somebody who. We love the numbers. Last year, we loved what he did. But they drafted a bunch of running backs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And you're not hearing a lot. Dion Lewis, they paid. They didn't draft a bunch of running backs. It's starting to feel like maybe Deion Lewis is looking a lot safer from an injury perspective than Thomas Rawls is. And I just. If you're Seattle and you want to put confidence out there in Thomas Rawls, I think you need to work a little harder.

[Andy Holloway]

They're not doing it. And you know what this is starting to look like? This is starting to look like the face of regret of a man who had to decide between trying to keep Thomas Rawls or Deion Lewis.

[Jason Moore]

You're right.

[Andy Holloway]

And you made the choice of Thomas Rawls.

[Jason Moore]

I did. I chose the upside of a Seattle offense in the running game and what Rawls did second half of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

And a guy who's. I guess they're both injured. So I take that.

[Jason Moore]

Right. I could have chose Jonathan Stewart. So if you're picking today, do you keep Stewart or Rawls?

[Mike Wright]

If I'm Picking today, I pick Thomas Rawls, and I pick Thomas Rawls over both of those guys.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, Jonathan, so you're making me feel.

[Andy Holloway]

Better is I'm trying to think of a good food comparison because that's what we do. He's just. He's bland because you know that it's. It's safe and it's steady, which is great. You need those kind of guys on your team.

[Jason Moore]

But cabbage, you know, the cabbage in the backfield, the cabbage.

[Andy Holloway]

I love cabbage. I mean, it has its purposes.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's just. It will never.

[Jason Moore]

It'll get you from A to B.

[Andy Holloway]

And it can. If you have a great team or if you have a great sandwich, cabbage can take that thing over the top. It's got the crunch.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

But by itself, cabbage is never going to get it done.

[Jason Moore]

And when you're scanning your draft board and you see cabbage, you don't generally run to it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So I like it. I like that word cabbage. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Jason is totally.

[Mike Wright]

I'm really confused over here, mostly because I think cabbage is disgusting and I like Jonathan Stewart, so it just doesn't apply.

[Andy Holloway]

I like Jonathan Stewart. I just think that his ceiling is capped where week to week. You're not going to get this. You can't get a monstrosity of a game from Jonathan Stewart like you could from Rawls or Lewis.

[Mike Wright]

Since we brought Jonathan Stewart up, it is worth noting that he is not fully healthy yet from the Super Bowl. He hurt his foot in the Super Bowl.

[Jason Moore]

Well, re. Injured.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And so it's worth monitoring for a guy who's made of glass.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say it's really worth monitoring for a guy who is always worth monitoring. Yeah, pretty much. So, hey, before we get into now, we're going to do a. Let's go through what we're going to do here. A standard mock draft, 12 team league. One quarterback, two running back, two starting wide receivers, one tight end and one flex.

[Andy Holloway]

One wide receiver. Running back.

[Jason Moore]

Flex, one wide receiver. Well, yeah, I mean, that's the majority of them, but yes, we are. We are stipulating that in this mock draft, we're going to draft from the ninth position. So a little bit later, probably a spot. We're going to have to make some.

[Andy Holloway]

Tough decisions that I catch a niner in there.

[Jason Moore]

Where are you calling from? A walkie talkie. You're bringing me back, Mike. You're bringing me back. I watched that movie, like, over and over again for, like, years for some reason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's in the.

[Mike Wright]

For some Reason in the upper. Yeah, let me see. It's fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

That's a good reason.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Tommy boy, is, is. Is tops.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

The fantasy footballers mock draft.

[Jason Moore]

It's always fun to be able to do like live research on the air because every mock draft you do, we encourage our listeners to mock draft everyone. You do, you learn something. Yeah, you learn where guys are going.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasydraftwizard.com that's the place we always recommend. It's very, very easy to do drafts there. You can do it multiple times a day. It's free to do up to three a day. So do them all the time. And then if you, if you've got a dynasty or keeper league or something like that, you can actually, you know, upgrade to where you can put in your actual teams. And it's an invaluable tool for the draft season.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. So we're going to get started here. Like I said, 12 team standard draft, drafting from the nine position. You know, we're big proponents of the half point per reception. A lot of you guys playing in standard leagues. And we're going to do a standard today. To just see how it changes the equation. And so let's, let's kick this thing off. I've started the draft here on fancy draftwizard.com and the first pick was Antonio Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. No problem.

[Jason Moore]

Surprise.

[Andy Holloway]

No problem with it.

[Jason Moore]

Odell Beckham Jr. Went number two. You got Lev Bell going three. That Bell is sliding into three in a lot of mocks right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Including the one Jason just did.

[Andy Holloway]

The confidence is going up.

[Jason Moore]

Tell about that MFL10 you just did.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I just did an MFL10 where I took. I took Levy on Bell at the third spot behind Julio and Antonio Brown. It was a PPR. So otherwise, you know, in a PPR setting, Le'Veon Bell is just so far and away another tier in our tiers on our ultimate draft kit. Le'Veon Bell is actually his own tier at number one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So Lev Bell went three, Julio Jones went four, then Gronkowski off the board early at number five. David Johnson, six, Todd Gurley seven, and Adrian Peterson, well, who I consider a completely fine number one pick in a standard league.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I would agree.

[Jason Moore]

Gwent, number eight. And so that team, I think, has a great value there. I think number nine is a really tough place to be in right here.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it is because there's. I'm looking over the board and I mean, we have some. You could go. You go super risky, man. Pick up easy here and just hope for the best.

[Jason Moore]

Ezekiel Elliott.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Elliott. It's just. No one really like, just jumps off the page of says this is the pick which generally in the first round you like to have. I would say the closest to that for me would be DEZ Bryant, the touchdown machine. All signs are that the foot is looking. He will be ready for the season. And I think that he's in for a monster workload again.

[Jason Moore]

Jason, talk about a little about what you're looking for in a standard league at this position. What do you want from your elite player in a standard versus some of those other formats?

[Mike Wright]

Well, in my first round, I've talked about it before, I want to avoid the risk as best I can get someone that I can really put my confidence in. Because I'm giving up a lot of value in the first round. In a standard league, specifically where we've got two running backs, two wide receivers and a flex, the running back position is. I know wide receivers are all the rage, but the running back position is a little bit more scarce. And so generally, if I'm in this spot where those top guys are gone, I'm usually looking towards a running back because I think in a couple more picks, when you're late, you know, there are. I love A.J. green. I love Des Bryant. I love DeAndre Hopkins in a standard league. I like Alan Robinson in the second round. Jordy, there's plenty of wide receivers here that I really love where I.

[Andy Holloway]

You're fine as you. Number one.

[Mike Wright]

As my number one. Which means I can grab them in a couple more picks.

[Jason Moore]

So if you look chalk, if you go by our rankings right now, consensus rankings in a standard league, the picks were would be between Jamal Charles, Mark Ingram and Lamar Miller from the running backs. For running backs in a standard league. So you've got Charles on the board. Lamar Miller on the board. You got Ingram, who I think is a great standard play, but could slip to the next round on this draft. And then you got the high upside of Ezekiel Elliott in a standard league.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And I agree with you, Mike. I think Des Bryant is great pick, but we got to make the pick now. And so who. Who do you guys vote on here? Who do you think we should make the.

[Andy Holloway]

I vote Des.

[Mike Wright]

I would vote for, I guess Mark Ingram.

[Jason Moore]

You know what? I actually agree. I think Mark Ingram was the guy that kind of jumps off to me as.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Mark Ingram. First round running back.

[Jason Moore]

First round running back, ninth pick. That's what that's coming off the board. We'll see how that. That goes, and we'll see where Elliot ends.

[Mike Wright]

We know our friend Pat Mayo disagrees with us.

[Jason Moore]

He's so angry.

[Mike Wright]

But at the same time, you know, you gotta. You gotta put your flag.

[Jason Moore]

I think. I think a lot of people probably disagree with us.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I think that was a controversial pick. You had Jamal Charles, you had Doug Martin sitting on the board.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But I think Mark Ingram's volume in a standard league, his touchdown prowess is very high. And we're both big. We're all big fans of the Saints. Bounce back this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And with Kyrie Robinson gone, there were, you know, a handful of touchdowns that were vultured there that I don't think will be vultured this year. Ingram should be a top back.

[Jason Moore]

All right. You got DeAndre Hopkins that went number 10, Dez Bryant and Ezekiel Elliott. The Cowboys went off the board at the end of the first round. Devonte Freeman, AJ Green, and Allen Robinson started the second round. And now we are back on the clock with some tough decisions to be made. Guys, time to put. Look, this is tough because now you've still got Lamar Miller, Jamal Charles on the board. I don't pass on Jamal Charles in the second round, I don't do it.

[Mike Wright]

You know, here's the thing. Wide receivers, and we've talked about this a little bit, but this year is so different. Wide receivers are going in bunches. I mean crazy bunches. People are drafting them up to where when you get to the fourth round, if you haven't got a hold of a good wide receiver, a lot of times you are absolutely screwed. I mean there's just. Your number one wide receiver is going to be just flat not good enough. Which actually, because we're mocking it, tempts me to take Jamal Charles. Let's see what happens. This is when you have to experiment with that stuff and go, look, if I don't get a wide receiver in my first two rounds, maybe my first.

[Jason Moore]

Three rounds, yeah, I personally like taking him for that reason as well. Because so much of this offseason narrative have been the ride. Receivers, the wide receivers, the wide receivers. When, you know, last off season we were very much, you know, first two running backs in a lot of drafts. You're in the standard league here. I think you can take the chance. I'd like to see what wide receivers we end up in. We're happy.

[Andy Holloway]

I am okay going with it the way I would have done this. I would have gone with Charles if we were taking a running back in the first. Now Charles coming back is very interesting. I will say this to go along with your wide receiver thing. If we don't take a wide receiver here, there will be no more elite level, top tier wide receivers. And I think that's the deal with the wide receivers is I always talk about wide receiver points are easy to find, the lower end guys. But I think that the top, top who have separated themselves by a wide margin from the rest, I think that's kind of shallow. So that's why I would, if, if this was my team, I would go with a wide receiver here. But I like the idea of we're mock drafting. Let's experiment. Let's find out what our team looks like. If we take Charles right here last.

[Jason Moore]

Season at the wide receiver position, I'm going to pull it up to confirm you had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 wide receivers with double digit touchdowns. But I would say that four of those guys you didn't expect at all. And that would have been Ginn, Hearns, Decker probably and Baldwin. Everyone else is kind of an expectation. So I was just trying to speak into your point about elite wide receivers. I think we do Take Charles to see what we end up with.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's do it.

[Mike Wright]

If this were a real draft, there's no way I would.

[Jason Moore]

You wouldn't have taken Charles?

[Mike Wright]

I would have taken Alshon. Jeffrey there.

[Jason Moore]

That's interesting. I would have taken Charles.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I would have gone Alshon right there.

[Jason Moore]

Let's find out what happens. All right, so we took Jamal Charles, and now we've got a long wait here because we were picking at the nine spot, came back on the Snake draft, and now we got Miller, Jeffrey, Cooper, Nelson, Evans, Lacey, Martin and Marshall off the board in the second round.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, by the way, Lacy in the second. Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Let me say this. Before I get into the third round, I'm going to actually save the this draft and post it on the website. Last time we did the mock, I forgot to save it and I closed the win window and it did not save. I apologize and I will do it this time. And I'm saying it out loud now so that the two people across remind me to do this. I'm going to write it down in big letters here and then I'll get into the third round draft site. Okay. It'll go on the website. Demarius Thomas starts the third round. Keenan Allen, Brandon Cooks, LaShawn McCoy, Sammy Watkins, Ty Hilton, Carlos Hyde and Cam Newton. By my count, that is a ton of wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would call that 10 a boatload.

[Jason Moore]

Ten wide receivers, four running backs and a quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I was just talking about. I've seen it this whole off season, man. If you. If you don't end up with a wide receiver early, the pickings become slim. So that's why we're doing this. The listeners, I think this will be a valuable exercise so that we can see.

[Jason Moore]

You guys are thinking Matt Forte here, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. We got to keep going.

[Andy Holloway]

0 wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

So Aaron Rodgers is sitting there in the third round. Cam Newton did go in the last round. You also basically your best available wide receivers. Now you're talking about exactly what Jason just told me, which is Randall Cobb, Julian Edelman, you've got Golden Tate and Eric Decker. It's not elite level guys. It's not. In fact, I argue that the last one to go off the list, Sammy Watkins, was probably the last one that you could argue would be in that tier. So you had 17 wide receivers off the board in the first three rounds up to the ninth pick. So now what do we do?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, so here are the guys. Yeah, I mean, you named some of those wide receivers that are available do we fill out the roster and say we need a wide receiver so we have to take the Cobb Edelman, or do we, you know, keep going crazy and we take our rules to the limit?

[Jason Moore]

Here's what you do. Let's look at these guys at the wide receiver position and say who we believe could be elite.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

At that position. Because you got Randall Cobb, who was in the past super disappointed last year, but it's, you know, Jordy Nelson's back.

[Mike Wright]

You have Kelvin Benjamin, who was a touchdown red zone type of guy that would be less of a PPR option, more of a standard guy that some people are really high on.

[Jason Moore]

You have Eric Decker, 12 touchdowns last season. Nobody expects him or treats him like a one. But if Fitzpatrick is back, which I estimate he will be, Decker was a one.

[Mike Wright]

You have the number one wide receiver over the second half of last season.

[Jason Moore]

On the board, Tug Baldwin. You have Golden Tate. You know, no, Calvin Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

And you have Michael Floyd. I mean, there are.

[Jason Moore]

What about. Why is Julian Edelman not getting any attention here?

[Mike Wright]

Because it's a ppr. Because it's a standard and Julian Edelman is such a.

[Jason Moore]

We want. What about Jeremy Macklin? He's the number one on that team. He scores touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think third round is rough for me. For Macklin, he. I think we saw peak. I think that was ceiling last year, which was. It was good. But at this point, I mean, for.

[Mike Wright]

Me, in standard, I have. I have a lot of guys ahead of Macklin.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I was.

[Mike Wright]

I've got Tate Edelman, John Brown ahead of Jeremy Macklin and standard score is.

[Jason Moore]

Your, Is your thought process with Macklin. I mean, to say he was peak when he has put up better numbers than what he did last year is strange to me.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that was a completely different office. I think he peaked for the Chiefs.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, we're back on it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we're back on it.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think that he's.

[Jason Moore]

He had 85 for 13, 18 and 10 the year before. He had 87 for 10, 88 and 8 last year. That's not even that different in numbers. He could go double digit touchdowns. It's not peak.

[Andy Holloway]

He could go double digit touchdowns. You know what else he could do? He could drop two touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

He could drop two touchdowns, but he will score eight or nine. All right, I'm giving you the pick, Mike. It's your pick.

[Andy Holloway]

If it's my pick, I'm taking this thing to the limit.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, great.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm going, I'm looking at these I'm looking at these.

[Mike Wright]

I think. I know he's going.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm looking at these running backs here. And we are in the third round. So it. Man. Do we take that. That gamble on Mr. Thomas Rawls, the aforementioned.

[Jason Moore]

This is your pick, Mike. I'm not. I'm not going to argue with you.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, what do you think about going Thomas Rawls right here?

[Jason Moore]

I think Mike. I think Mike peaked last season.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I will say this. If we're not going to take a wide receiver and we're going to hurt.

[Jason Moore]

That spot, you're going to flex Rawls right here. If triple running back. Nobody's doing this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the fantasy footballers mock draft show, man.

[Mike Wright]

Let's get crazy. Let's take it to the limit, dude.

[Jason Moore]

Rawls, if I draft. If we draft Thomas Rawls right here.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me make sure that the YouTube.

[Jason Moore]

Comments will be double.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. What are you guys doing?

[Jason Moore]

Although the value of Rawls in a third round is great now, I will.

[Mike Wright]

Say this into the third round now. It helps with our flex position. But Aaron Rodgers, any temptation there?

[Andy Holloway]

No, there's zero temptation.

[Jason Moore]

We got too many.

[Andy Holloway]

Thomas Rawls, we need to move forward. Let's do it.

[Jason Moore]

We do. We have to draft picks in a mock draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. Thomas Rawls.

[Jason Moore]

I'm really happy with what happened here. So after we drafted Rawls, See, that's the thing to consider here. We drafted ninth, so we only had to wait six picks. And in those six picks, fortunate for us. Yes, A quarterback, four running backs and a wide receiver. Rogers, CJ, Anderson, Baldwin, Matt, Jones, Forte and Murray. Now we get a draft, a wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

The same guys that we were just looking at.

[Jason Moore]

Edelman, Cobb and, you know, Macklin, Benjamin, and right here.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go. Let's pretend that Tom Brady is playing a full, full slate of games that he. His suspension is lifted.

[Jason Moore]

What if he's. I mean, let's pretend the status. Status is right now. We're mocking right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, right now.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Because I was going to say that the pick is Julian Edelman.

[Jason Moore]

For me, I think it's Edelman. Either way.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I was gonna say. Even without Brady, I think Edelman is.

[Jason Moore]

Probably the guy that seven touchdowns through the beginning of the season before his injury with really no other weapons. With Tom Brady.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Now let's just look at the other guys that are available. If we don't go Edelman, we're looking at Randall Cobb.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we just.

[Mike Wright]

Jeremy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's the same.

[Mike Wright]

So Edelman Would be my pick.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Let's go, Edelman.

[Jason Moore]

Edelman slots in at a one and a standard on our team, which is little unexpected, a little bit of a.

[Mike Wright]

Reach to say Julian Edelman will be your wide receiver one. But it's just a little bit of a reach, really. And to start with three stud running backs, I'm not too disappointed so far.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so let's go ahead. Why don't one of you guys run back what we had off the board?

[Andy Holloway]

Can you see it from Edelman? Yeah. After that, we had Randall Cobb, Russell Wilson, Latavius Murray, Andrew Luck, Jeremy Macklin, Golden Tate, Kelvin Benjamin. My man Ryan Matthews, unfortunately went off the board there. Jordan Reed, Jeremy Hill, Dion Lewis, J. Ajayi, Frank Gore. Frank Gore moving up. Hey, getting some respect. Good for you. Frank Gore. Jarvis Landry, Jonathan Stewart, the fantasy cabbage. And Greg Olson.

[Jason Moore]

If you look last year to start the season, I'm just. I'm just looking at Adam.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that run was great.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was great for us because only four wide receivers went, and that was a long run where we were, you know, away from our turn. So now we get two of the next, you know, what is that in the next five picks or so?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I'm still staring at Edelman as the number one here, and I'm looking at. And seeing he started last year with six touchdowns in his first eight games.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Julian Edelman, number one wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Come on, Brady.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I don't feel great about it, but that's okay. All right, we're sitting here. You read it back. Ninth pick of the fifth round, Eric Decker, still sitting on the board. Michael Floyd sitting on the board, unfortunately for me, Jeremy Macklin's off the board. If you buy into Michael Floyd being a potential number one and you're not confident Edelman isn't more of a two, he's a risky number one here. I think the pick has to be Decker. Really, I do. I would love. Look, here's what you're doing in this draft as I smack my microphone.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

In this draft, you have taken. You're all in on running back. Standard league. You got touchdown machines on your team, right? Ingram, Charles Rawls, those are guys that should carry the load. At this point, I am not looking for high risk at wide receiver. I'm looking for the same. Who's safer than Edelman and Decker from a reception and a red zone target standpoint.

[Mike Wright]

I completely agree with that. You have to look at the makeup of your team. And normally what happens is I want My wide receiver one to be a huge blow up potential guy. My wide receiver too, to be more consistent. But that's, that's in a normal draft where I'm. I didn't just go running back, running back, running back. You explained it perfectly, Andy. You want consistency, you just need to get every week some production out of these guys and let your running backs carry you. If that's how this draft is going. I, Eric Decker, would be my pick as well.

[Andy Holloway]

My pick right here. I would. I have Decker slightly ahead of Michael Floyd in my rankings. But the upside that Michael Floyd could be the number one wide receiver for a team that had the most yards in the NFL last year was the second highest scoring team in the NFL. I would go for that upside. But I'm okay with Decker here.

[Jason Moore]

Decker it is with the 2/3 vote. I don't mind.

[Andy Holloway]

Floyd followed immediately by Michael Floyd.

[Jason Moore]

Feels scary. Yeah. Floyd went next, then big Ben. John Brown. It's interesting again. Michael Floyd, John Brown, two picks apart. Jason and I have talked at length on the show about our opinions about those guys. Clearly they are going very close. Drew Brees, six round. Is that a value?

[Andy Holloway]

It is. I think it is fair.

[Jason Moore]

I'd love to get him in the seventh or eighth.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fair value for him if you're wanting, if you want to take the quarterback earlier. Drew Brees in the sixth, it could be worse.

[Jason Moore]

Now you had Jordan Matthews and then Jeremy Langford, third pick of the sixth round. Went behind Gore.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a good value.

[Jason Moore]

Went behind Ajayi, went behind Jeremy Hill. That seems like a steal at that point.

[Andy Holloway]

I would be in on Jeremy Langford.

[Jason Moore]

All right, it's our pick now, guys.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it looks like there's actually still a couple wide receivers on the board that, that are valuable here. You've got Emmanuel Sanders on the board, Larry Fitzgerald. Larry Fitzgerald. And then it kind of trails off a little bit. We could pair Hearns with Decker and just go with the wide receiver too.

[Jason Moore]

I think at this point I have a different mentality with those two solid guys in there. I start to look at desean Jackson, I start to look at Emmanuel Sanders.

[Andy Holloway]

What about a Marvin Jones into a Dante Moncrief?

[Mike Wright]

Oof. You could talk me into a dog. Dante Moncrief to me is a guy who I think can be consistent but could be huge. He's one of these rare guys on a team where he could, he could end up near the wide receiver one. He's got that kind of potential.

[Jason Moore]

To me, when the waiter brings the menu. And Mike's picking somebody out. He always picks out a Moncrief. If you give him the chance to pick a Dante Moncrief out, he will.

[Andy Holloway]

So it depends. It depends on what time it is. I mean, how risky am I?

[Jason Moore]

You guys don't feel like you want the upside of a Kevin White or desean Jackson here.

[Andy Holloway]

Not Kevin White. You can't talk me into that. DeSean Jackson is a.

[Jason Moore]

Can you fly?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm okay with that.

[Jason Moore]

So what is the bus potential of Dante Moncrie?

[Andy Holloway]

What is the bus? I mean, we're. We're in the sixth round.

[Jason Moore]

We're in the sixth round, but this is a guy who we're going to potentially have to flex. There's risk with Rawls.

[Andy Holloway]

So we're talking about a guy who we have to flex.

[Mike Wright]

And I don't.

[Jason Moore]

In fact, we got three injury prone guys with Ingram and Charles and Rawls right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, because they're the running backs. They all are injured.

[Jason Moore]

We have three running backs.

[Andy Holloway]

The. In a standard league, Dante Moncrief. I don't remember if you remember recall it, Jason, but I think it was five touchdowns in the first seven games.

[Mike Wright]

He started off real hot.

[Andy Holloway]

So. And that's. That's where I would go. I would go with the upside of Moncrief. I think he is a monster. Breakout, candid.

[Jason Moore]

Kelsey Eifert, Fleener, any of those names entice Colby Fleener does.

[Andy Holloway]

But I think we can wait.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree. We should be able to get.

[Jason Moore]

So this is the Moncrief is the pick.

[Mike Wright]

Let's do it now. I could be talked into it, but just for prosperity sake for myself, posterity sake for myself.

[Jason Moore]

I would say for prosperity.

[Andy Holloway]

This is how we grow.

[Mike Wright]

I would say I've got desean Jackson, Marvin Jones and Devonte Parker ahead of Dante Moncrief. But I'm fine with all four of those if we want to go.

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Parker is interesting there.

[Mike Wright]

He's got the opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

You know that Moncrief is not the one. Moncrief is not. It's Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And I understand that, but I've seen Andrew Luck throw 40 plus touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. And I don't think Tannehill throw four plus.

[Mike Wright]

And to be fair to that point, we don't know that Parker's the one either.

[Jason Moore]

Very true.

[Mike Wright]

I mean the same way it's Ty Hilton. It could be.

[Jason Moore]

Looks like I'm drafting Dante Moncrie. Yes. I don't know if I. Mike, can you reach over and push the button.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't. But I can think about it.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I pushed it with my brain.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I did it. It was tough.

[Andy Holloway]

Certainly not.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so we got a nice mixture of a run between these picks. Large group of guys, lot of quarterbacks, quarterbacks, tight ends going off the board, running backs and wide receivers. All of them give you some highlights here. You had Blake Bortles, Tom Brady, Eli Manning and Carson Palmer go off for the quarterback position. You have Julius Thomas, Kobe Fleener, Delaney Walker and Travis Kelsey. So now tight ends, those have been gone. Now here's my opinion. If the guy you want at tight end that you think is a good mid round value is gone, then I'm going to wait for a long time because there's plenty of late guys that I like. So I'm going to hold off on tight end personally.

[Jason Moore]

You don't think Tyler Ifert with the ninth pick of the seventh round in a standard league with his touchdown potential is the pick right here?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

I do.

[Mike Wright]

Not only do I agree with that, I had no idea Tyler Eiford was still on this.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I assumed when we're talking about all these other guys in a standard.

[Jason Moore]

That is a can't miss pick to me.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you're not risking as much when you're.

[Jason Moore]

You got 14 touchdown year on a limited work. I don't care if he misses a game or two. You're in a standard league where IFRT's power is really felt. It's not PPR, it's not the Jordan Reed show. This is the touchdown show. I think IFRT is the is the shoe in pick right here versus a fourth wide receiver or a fourth running back.

[Andy Holloway]

We actually have a consensus pick I would take if it here.

[Jason Moore]

That's just a steal. I think that's the pick of the draft.

[Mike Wright]

If he had been gone and you moved to that next year, then you felt then what I'm saying is which I think was fair a long time.

[Jason Moore]

Very fair. All right. Melvin Gordon went next. Gary Barnage.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

Corey Coleman. So back to back Browns don't see that too often. Ledarius Green, Amir Abdullah and Zach Ertz. And now we're in fourth pick of the eighth round.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I'm going to need a better, a more clear shot of who is available.

[Jason Moore]

Sure thing. We've got. That's difficult to do but we got.

[Mike Wright]

Why don't you hide the guys that are.

[Jason Moore]

Kevin White.

[Andy Holloway]

Kevin White here is interesting. Michael Crabtree is also on the board. Ooh, Tyler Lockett and. Yeah, I mean, there's a few guys here who are the running backs that are available. Do we have. Can we pull that list up?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Running backs, we've got Gio Bernard, Danny Woodhead, Chris Ivory, Carlos Williams, legarrett Blunt. We've got Arian Foster and his impending signing of somewhere.

[Mike Wright]

Because we started so running back heavy. I kind of like being able to take some shots. I mean, this is where guys like Kevin White or Marvin Jones, those guys. We've got a core of wide receivers that we know are solid.

[Jason Moore]

Try to buy a one late in the draft.

[Mike Wright]

Try to buy a one and you can. Those, those two guys are the guys that stick out to me.

[Jason Moore]

Kevin White.

[Mike Wright]

Marvin Jones could run into that role. Kevin White could possibly run into that role. So those two guys are who stick as me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, those are the guys that stick out to me too. I mean, Treadwell is a little bit of a temptation if he can get the touchdown numbers. I'm worried about volume. But he's still a thought process here or he's just. He's still a consideration for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, what do you think?

[Andy Holloway]

I like the thought process of leaning between Marvin Jones and Kevin White. Of. We were just talking about Jones on the ADP show of he's going really late, like right now and he's. He had a game of four touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

That was probably a little bit of a fluke. But here's the thing. Actually being able to see it done, you know, that's. That's better than not. Am I right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Is a red zone option.

[Jason Moore]

I like Jones as an option here because White is going to need an injury to Alshon Jeffrey to be an elite one.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go with Marvin Jones here.

[Jason Moore]

So Marvin Jones off the board. We got to wait a little while. Again, Geo Gates went off the board big running back. Kevin White did go. A bunch of running backs. Isaiah Crowell in the ninth, Derrick Henry Legara Blunt Foster Dixon. Kenneth Dixon went off in the ninth. What do you think of that?

[Andy Holloway]

I would not personally do it, Kenneth. I mean, I'm not. It's not a gross pick at all to me. Kenneth Dixon, if you can hold him on your bench by the end of the year, he could be one of those second half type of guys we talk about. If he, if he gets into the starting position. He could be a guy that carries you over the. Pushes it over the top. But at the same time, I don't think he starts the year as the starter. So you're Gonna. I think you'd be waiting a while on Dixon. You be like a egg. You're trying to hatch the egg.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're at the ninth pick of the ninth round. So Kenneth Dixon, in this draft, went before Justin for set.

[Mike Wright]

That's bananas. That is absolutely ridiculous and stupid. Justin Forsett is their starter. He's the guy that I think is going to end the year with the lion's share here.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my gosh. We couldn't disagree more.

[Mike Wright]

So you're saying you would?

[Jason Moore]

I'm willing to hit the button right now.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, do it. I don't even know what the bet is. Dixon versus Bet.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That's be nanas, be bananas.

[Andy Holloway]

What section are the bananas found in?

[Mike Wright]

They're found in the crazy section.

[Andy Holloway]

That's where they are.

[Mike Wright]

They're found in the loony bin. So you're taking the guy who is currently slotted in as the fourth running back over the guy that is currently slotted in. Yeah, as the first running back?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, sir.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, sir. I'll take Kenneth Dixon over the long haul. Not saying he's gonna start the year now.

[Mike Wright]

We're not talking dynasty, right? We're talking. I just want to make sure.

[Jason Moore]

I don't mean, like a 10 year long haul.

[Mike Wright]

Three or four years, you're gonna say, I told you.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm talking about by the end of the year, you're gonna wish you had Kenneth Dixon.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, maybe by the.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, by the end of the year.

[Jason Moore]

And I'm gonna make you eat some bee nanas on the air.

[Mike Wright]

I will. That's what we'll have to do. You'll have to eat some beans.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me write this. Let me transcribe this.

[Jason Moore]

You will have to spend an entire episode eating bananas. That's what you're gonna have to do.

[Mike Wright]

Well, here's what we should do. We should mash up some bananas, and instead of water for the water banana, throw some bee nanas. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Like a banana smoothie.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's too late.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm in. It's insane.

[Mike Wright]

Smoothie.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the problem with the smoothie bet.

[Jason Moore]

I think Jason might want to lose the bet now because he loves bananas.

[Mike Wright]

Bananas are delicious. They belong in every dessert.

[Andy Holloway]

He just hedged like a master.

[Jason Moore]

He hedged the water bat with throw dessert in my face.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we're gonna use a banana cream pie here.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, there's no guarantee this is in your face. This could be in your crotchal region, my friend.

[Jason Moore]

This could be a banana's face. I don't even know what that means.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Because you know what's crazy is I'm looking at the board and I'm saying, Justin for set here is a really good value this late in a draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

So it's funny to have this conversation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Let's talk about quarterbacks on the board for the people listening. Tony Romo, Derek Carr, Andy Dalton, Mariota Winston, Ryan Cousins, Stafford, one of my guys. There's just so many quarterbacks I know. I don't want to draft one either. At the running back. You got four set, you got Coleman, you got pro size McFadden. Not seen a lot of names.

[Andy Holloway]

I love when. If you have Thomas Rawls, how do.

[Jason Moore]

You, how do you not take pro size?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not, I'm not saying how do you not. But how strongly do you feel about handcuffing Thomas Rawls with pro size? And we don't even know that pro size is the guy to own.

[Mike Wright]

That's my problem.

[Andy Holloway]

It could be C. Michael, it's really.

[Jason Moore]

Tough with a rookie like that. That isn't a consensus. Three down back. If it was just Collins, right? If you just knew, like, look, last year with Devonta Freeman, Tevin Coleman is the clear cut guy to own. Even though he's a rookie, he was drafted early. He's the guy to own. That's not the case with pro slides. You got Collins, you got Christine. Michael. I don't think you. I don't think that's the handcuff necessity.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. I would rather have Tevin Coleman here, who's on the board, because if, if Thomas Rawls goes out, I expect CJ Pro Size to do what Fred Jackson did, which is to stay in that role and have someone else come in to have Alex Collins come in or see Mike.

[Jason Moore]

But that's what someone asked me just today on Twitter. I don't know what impression they got of my thoughts on handcuffs, but they basically said, why is it better to have the handcuff than another backup running back.

[Mike Wright]

It's not.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I said. I said it's not better. There are certain situations that it is ideal to have the actual handcuff.

[Mike Wright]

We don't want any handcuffs. We only want handcuffs. And if you, if he's not one of those great guys, we don't want a handcuff. I don't want a handcuff.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't either. I'd rather have, like in this situation, like you said, the someone might jump and go pro. I got to get pro Size. Pro size has to be the guy I pick over Tevin Coleman because I have Rawls.

[Mike Wright]

Can I just ask you a question, though? Of all the.

[Jason Moore]

Ask me a question.

[Mike Wright]

Of all the running backs that are available, I mean, we're looking here. We're really late. We're ninth round. Is there possibly any starter left or is everybody on there still just a backup?

[Jason Moore]

Theo Riddick is on the board, and he could lead the team in fantasy points.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but he's not the starter.

[Jason Moore]

No, he's not. Chris Johnson immediately.

[Mike Wright]

No. Yeah. Who's starting the week one as the starter for their team?

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody in this list other than, I mean, Tevin Coleman.

[Mike Wright]

No, he's not the starter.

[Andy Holloway]

He would. He's the only guy in that list. Oh, I think could potentially.

[Mike Wright]

Justin Forsick, starter for the Ravens. That's my point.

[Andy Holloway]

Well done. I forgot he was still there.

[Mike Wright]

I know because he shouldn't be.

[Andy Holloway]

And I like. I'm with Jason. I like Justin for Said a lot.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we took him. We're coming around 10th round. Got to move it on. Got to move the train, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Pro size off the board. Jordan Howard. I want this next pick divorce down. You want it yourself?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Go for it. We are talking about who's on the board.

[Andy Holloway]

We are in round 10. So you're looking at a Marcus Wheaton, a Vincent Jackson.

[Jason Moore]

He said Marcus Wheaton's name so sadly.

[Andy Holloway]

Because it is here.

[Jason Moore]

Say his name again. Say his name again.

[Andy Holloway]

Marcus Wheaton.

[Mike Wright]

He's the guy left standing. That's not fair.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's true.

[Andy Holloway]

But you're sad in like Stefan Diggs. I mean, I guess Treadwell here is interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

When you're in the 10th round. But we are in the 10th round, and there is a player who I have as a 2. A wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

2. Are we going to give him Tory Smith here?

[Andy Holloway]

Andy, I was already given the pick. You can't take it back. So the pick here is. Is Tori Smith for me, I understand dancing with the devil here for one more round. Possibility with Smith, but double digits. A guy who is. I believe it was a good colleague of ours. Matthew Berry has just tweeted out criminally underdrafted Tory Smith. I am with you. I am with Matt Harmon.

[Jason Moore]

He's not the only one. I would say Matt Harmon applauds every time that you move him into that side receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

There are just. I love the upside of Torrey Smith. You're in the 10th round here. You got pretty much nothing to lose.

[Jason Moore]

Do you Understand, the Tori Smith talk is identical to the Carlos Hyde talk. There are those that will buy into Carlos Hyde and there are those that won't. And the arguments for Torrey Smith's success are identical.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

System opportunity versus horrible team if you.

[Andy Holloway]

Don'T know, plus talent if you don't know.

[Jason Moore]

San Francisco is favored in zero of their 16 matchups this year. No home matchup. Are they a favorite Vegas wise right now? Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Right now things change frequently. There's, there is high turnover in the NFL of teams improving.

[Jason Moore]

They're in a division with Arizona. I'm not predicting they will with St. Louis, but it's going to be tough sledding even if Torrey Smith gets, you know, many more throws.

[Mike Wright]

The nice thing about that pick is that we're going to see really quick if we can just cut him. You know what I mean? Like I'm not going to wait around forever on Torrey Smith when we're using 10 rounds.

[Jason Moore]

Look, you talked about drafting some guys with upside guys that are slotted in as a one. I mean Tori Smith still one. That's kind of good to have.

[Mike Wright]

So we're in the 10th round. Let's just look at the quarterbacks that are available. I really like Tony Romo when you can get him late double digit rounds. Tony Romo to me is a guy who has finished year after year after year when health he's finished as a top five fantasy quarterback. So to be able to get him and the tenth I'm happy with. Granted, I also like Andy Dalton a lot.

[Jason Moore]

I would take Matthew Stafford later and.

[Mike Wright]

I think you'll be outvoted 2 to 1 on that.

[Jason Moore]

Why we got Marvin Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I would push. I wouldn't take a quarterback here. There's, there is.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there's enough that we.

[Andy Holloway]

So many that I love.

[Jason Moore]

So how many picks do we have left? Because it's only a five bench league. We got one, two, three, four picks left.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa. So I got bench is done and.

[Jason Moore]

Two of them is.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, our bench.

[Jason Moore]

We got one bench spot left and I think we, we do roll the dice. We draft a running running back or a wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so we only have one more bench spot. I'm actually perfectly fine here taking the quarterback. If Romo is the guy that you want over all of these guys, then I would just take him for me.

[Mike Wright]

You know, I would want either Romo or, or Dalton.

[Jason Moore]

You don't want to, you don't want Christine Michael right here just in case Rawls doesn't start in week one or week two.

[Andy Holloway]

That is an interesting thing.

[Jason Moore]

Or is it? Because there's just so much. I think Christie Michaels the clear handcuff right now.

[Mike Wright]

You do, right? I do, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because he was last year and he's. He's taken first team reps and he was the guy that came in when Rawls was hurt last year. He knows the system better than Alex Collins or CJ Pro size. Pro size will not be a three down back no matter what. To start his career in Seattle. There's no chance of that.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like he's just a normal handcuff to me.

[Jason Moore]

And you're talking about Michael.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Michael. I'm not sure that it's him or Collins.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

So I'd rather spend the fab budget later in the year when I know who it is. The only tempting thing here of drafting just an average handcuff is that it is possible Thomas Rawls isn't ready for week one.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like that's what Andy was talking about.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I was saying. That's the point of Michaels having a starter in week one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I guess. Because it's week one and you can't pick him up on fab. I'm fine with Chris and Michael.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So this. Nobody's excited about this pick right now.

[Andy Holloway]

If I was taking the running back, I think I would just hedge there with Michael. There's. There's a good amount of wide receivers here who are very interesting though with major upside. Like Josh Dachshund Dorset, the old reliable Aiken. I understand that the upside is. Is capped with him. Ted Ginn.

[Jason Moore]

Ted Ginn is on the board.

[Andy Holloway]

You're moving a Jeff Janis, a Sammy Coates. If we want Kristen Michael, Josh Gordon, just in case.

[Mike Wright]

If we want Kristen Michael, he's going to be there next round. So we should take the quarterback we want.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, fair.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Who do you want? You pick the quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Then I'm going to pick Tony Romo. I think he is a fantasy stud. Throws a lot of touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

And we've taken Matthew Stafford. It looked like he was going to do it.

[Mike Wright]

That would be my.

[Jason Moore]

I would love to take Matthew Stafford. I think Matthew Stafford. Tony Romo is going to be a water bet we make soon.

[Andy Holloway]

Hold on, let me.

[Mike Wright]

But that will be based on 16 games.

[Andy Holloway]

Are they. Are.

[Jason Moore]

Wait. That you have to get 16 in.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because that's really fair. That's what all of our listeners do. They say, Tony Ro. Let's draft Tony Romo right here. Because you guarantee 16 games.

[Mike Wright]

Tony Romo gets injured. I'm fine. Streaming the position. That's my view. If he plays a full 16, I've got a starter for 16 games. If he's. He's an injury risk, he's not going to go out and just stink. Does anybody think that Clinton Romo is going to go out?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Play football?

[Andy Holloway]

Definitely not.

[Mike Wright]

Start in the game and then. And then really hurt me week in week.

[Jason Moore]

So let me show you what's going right now. Matthew Stafford is ninth on my board. He is 22nd on yours, and he's 18th on Mike's. Romo is 19th on Mike's. So he has Stafford one ahead of Romo, basically back to back. Jason, you have Romo 10, and I have Romo 18. And so we have Stafford. Romo, exactly. Inverse. Mike has him back to back. Mike make the quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Mike's got to pick it. Ooh.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go with Tony Romo.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And America has won. I have them so close on my rankings that I went with the guy who still has an elite level wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

So we're going to grab that. The hand. Maybe cuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe cuff. And Christine Michael.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey. Kamara Akin got drafted. We did it, everybody.

[Jason Moore]

And of course, America. Yeah. Kamara Akin got. We did it, America. The last position player in the draft looks to be Jeff Janis.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not bad.

[Jason Moore]

Alfred Morris went right before that.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not bad either.

[Jason Moore]

He went 13.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't like. Even you. You don't like at all taking a flyer on Morris?

[Mike Wright]

No, I don't like Morse at all. I think DMC is the better handcuff there.

[Jason Moore]

So there you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Do not get rid of the draft.

[Jason Moore]

I will not get rid of the draft. I will not. I will. All right, so that is it for our mock draft. We do need to go through our roster, do we not?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Let's read off the final roster. And we will also point out we have a lot of people, you know. Oh, man. Fantasy draft wizard. It didn't like my team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But here's the thing. Did you like your team? Because we're. Well, I guess we'll find out if we actually like our team, but fantasy draft wizard thought that team was not very strong.

[Mike Wright]

Well, and here's the reality. If you want to. If you want to have at the end of it, have your rankings say that it was high, it goes based off the rankings. So just take the guy they recommend every single time and you'll have the.

[Jason Moore]

The highest score.

[Mike Wright]

The highest score but that's clearly not going to work come draft day. So do not draft a team that you like and get a bad score and think, oh, I must have drafted a bad team. That's. I never have a good team.

[Jason Moore]

And that's human nature to see those rankings afterwards and question yourself. But you got to realize those are based on consensus rankings, expert rankings elsewhere. That doesn't mean it's the best thing for your team or your league and just be happy with making the right decision on every.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but you got to believe in your process.

[Mike Wright]

So the question is, did by going crazy, going running back, running back, running back, to start avoiding those wide receivers, did we end up with a, you know, a team that we can build a championship?

[Jason Moore]

Here's the team. Tony Romo, a very high upside quarterback with, with the injury history, Jamal Charles and Mark Ingram at the running backs. You've got two potential ones right there. I like that a lot in a standard league. Touchdown heavy. Julian Edelman and Eric Decker. I like the fact that those guys are, you know, consistent. Consistent. You got almost, almost 20 touchdowns between them. Last Edelman's injury, you got Tyler Ifert, a guy with 14 touchdowns at your tight end position. And you got Thomas Rawls in the flex as of today with options at the flex of Dante Moncrief, Marvin Jones, Kristen Michael if Rawls, Torrey Smith, Christine Michael. And so I really don't mind it. I like it.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought I was. When we were taking the risk, I thought, this is going to be garbage.

[Jason Moore]

I'm telling you right now, I like it. If we had taken, like, I don't know, desean Jackson, Jeremy Macklin or something, and you look at this team, you don't really feel comfortable. But when you slide in guys like Deckard and Edelman to supplement the powerhouse running backs, you feel kind of comfortable.

[Mike Wright]

In a standard league. I would love this team. I really would. And we say it all the time. I say it all the time. You don't win your championship at the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

You build your foundation.

[Mike Wright]

Build your foundation. This is a good foundation team where we can go and win a championship.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, the iferty we had a lot of things break well for us in the draft, which, though, you know, those things happen when you're, when you're. The bolts are flying in your life. That Tyler Ifer pick sets things over the top for me.

[Jason Moore]

And that's what happens a lot of times. If you can steal one or two players because your eyes are out for them in certain rounds, it defines the way your team looks and the way that your. Your draft ends up. So I was pretty happy with that considering how trepidatious. 3 Running back. This is the opposite of what people are doing right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's zero RB world right now.

[Jason Moore]

We were like, no, pretty much. So. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Very interesting outbreaking news. Our entire team is injured.

[Jason Moore]

That. That is true. Yeah. They all crashed into Mark Ingram, who crashed into Pat Mayo. So that is it for today's show. Again, I want to say thanks to everybody who supported the show on podcast awards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, thank you.

[Jason Moore]

It meant a lot to us to see. You know, it's so fun waking up and seeing the Twitter just explosion of posts and so, you know, if you won something, congratulations. If you didn't, we're gonna keep doing lots of fun stuff on there on Twitter. So stay tuned with us. We'll give you all the latest fantasy football news and if you want, say.

[Andy Holloway]

If you want to win stuff. Every month on our jointhefoot.com community, we're giving away hot ticket items.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we are hot. And be sure to check out football hall. Use the promo code BALLERS5. Any parting words, Jason, are you happy with that team?

[Mike Wright]

I am very happy with that team. My only parting words would be drop us that subscribe on YouTube.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, got show after the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Coming up very soon, Jason's YouTube goals continue.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, they do.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. So if you drop us that subscribe, you will see more of us right now today. It's coming right here. Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.the fantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter at theffballers.