Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Todd Gurley, AFC South, Fantasy News

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Todd Gurley, AFC South, Fantasy News
Release Date: July 21, 2016
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Guest: Todd Gurley, Los Angeles Rams

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AFC South Division Overview

The Fantasy Footballers delved deep into the dynamics of the AFC South, analyzing each team’s strengths, weaknesses, and key players poised to impact fantasy football outcomes this season.

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Houston Texans

Quarterback Analysis: Brock Osweiler
The discussion began with Brock Osweiler's role in the Texans' offense. The hosts debated his potential as a fantasy asset, considering his integration with Lamar Miller and the wide receiving talent like DeAndre Hopkins.

• Andy Holloway (05:00): “Brock Osweiler is being overlooked as a quarterback, too.”

Running Backs: Lamar Miller and DeAndre Hopkins' Impact
Lamar Miller was highlighted as a significant asset if healthy, with projections placing him potentially in the top ranks of fantasy running backs.

• Mike Wright (24:03): “If Miller is healthy and gets the workload, it would not shock me if he’s a top three running back.”

Deep Dive on Lamar Miller
The hosts discussed Lamar Miller’s workload under Coach Bill O'Brien, projecting around 240-250 carries which could position him as a top-five back in fantasy rankings.

• Jason Moore (25:33): “He can be a top five back. He just needs to stay healthy.”

Sleeper Pick: Tyler Irvin
Tyler Irvin was identified as a sleeper, offering potential late-round value due to his role in the Texans' backfield.

• Mike Wright (23:56): “If you're looking at a late pick flyer, I would throw Tyler Irvin on your watch list.”

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Indianapolis Colts

Key Players: Philip Dorsett and Josh Ferguson
Philip Dorsett emerged as a key point of discussion, with the Colts adopting a three-wide receiver offense under Mike Wells. Josh Ferguson, an undrafted running back, was recommended as a must-grab late-round pick with potential to contribute.

• Jason Moore (28:35): “Josh Ferguson is a must grab late on in your draft.”

Fantasy Strategy: Drafting the Colts
The hosts encouraged drafting the Colts due to their high offensive potential and undervalued running back depth, despite last season’s offensive struggles.

• Mike Wright (30:08): “You need to draft the Colts. They were drafted high for a reason.”

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Jacksonville Jaguars

Quarterback Performance: Blake Bortles
Blake Bortles was scrutinized for his high turnover rate last season. Despite his explosive potential, his consistency remains a concern for fantasy managers.

• Jason Moore (36:13): “Blake Bortles had 26 turnovers, which can get old for fantasy quarterbacks.”

Wide Receivers: Rashad Green vs. Philip Dorsett
A debate ensued over drafting Rashad Green versus Philip Dorsett, with a consensus leaning towards Dorsett for his more consistent fantasy production.

• Mike Wright (36:56): “I choose Philip Dorsett over Rashad Green by a country mile.”

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Tennessee Titans

Running Back Choice: DeMarco Murray vs. Derek Henry
DeMarco Murray was favored over Derek Henry due to his involvement in both the running and passing game, enhancing his fantasy value.

• Mike Wright (42:37): “I would rather have Murray than Carlos Hyde because Murray can catch the ball.”

Wide Receiver Strategy: Kendall Wright vs. Rashad Matthews
The discussion highlighted the uncertainty surrounding Kendall Wright’s role, with Rashad Matthews emerging as a more reliable option for consistent targets.

• Jason Moore (42:27): “I want Rashad Matthews over Kendall Wright.”

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Todd Gurley Interview

Adjusting to Los Angeles Rams
Todd Gurley shared his positive experiences adjusting to the move to Los Angeles, emphasizing team dynamics and his role within the offense.

Breakout Performance and Role Evolution
Reflecting on his breakout game against the Arizona Cardinals, Gurley discussed his aspirations to enhance his receiving role in the Rams' offense, mirroring his college versatility.

• Todd Gurley (49:04): “I definitely want to get better in the passing game.”

Leadership and Team Dynamics
Gurley highlighted the influence of veteran teammates like Roger Sappho and the emergence of younger players stepping into leadership roles.

• Todd Gurley (50:08): “Having guys like Roger Sappho on the line definitely helps out a lot.”

Fantasy Football Perspective
When asked about his stance on fantasy football rankings, Gurley confidently positioned himself as a top fantasy pick, challenging other players like David Johnson.

• Todd Gurley (51:12): “Tell David to sit down.”

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Key Takeaways and Fantasy Insights

• AFC South Potential: The division is ripe with fantasy opportunities, especially with undervalued running backs and emerging wide receivers.
• Sleeper Picks: Players like Tyler Irvin (Houston Texans) and Josh Ferguson (Indianapolis Colts) present late-round value with upside.
• Quarterback Decisions: Balancing turnovers versus potential upside remains crucial, with quarterbacks like Brock Osweiler and Blake Bortles under scrutiny.
• Influence of Player Roles: Understanding player roles within their respective offenses is essential for maximizing fantasy output, as seen with DeMarco Murray's dual-threat capability.

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Notable Quotes

• Andy Holloway (05:00): “Brock Osweiler is being overlooked as a quarterback, too.”
• Mike Wright (24:03): “If Miller is healthy and gets the workload, it would not shock me if he’s a top three running back.”
• Jason Moore (25:33): “He can be a top five back. He just needs to stay healthy.”
• Jason Moore (28:35): “Josh Ferguson is a must grab late on in your draft.”
• Mike Wright (30:08): “You need to draft the Colts. They were drafted high for a reason.”
• Mike Wright (36:56): “I choose Philip Dorsett over Rashad Green by a country mile.”
• Mike Wright (42:37): “I would rather have Murray than Carlos Hyde because Murray can catch the ball.”
• Jason Moore (42:27): “I want Rashad Matthews over Kendall Wright.”
• Todd Gurley (49:04): “I definitely want to get better in the passing game.”
• Todd Gurley (51:12): “Tell David to sit down.”

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Conclusion

This episode provided comprehensive insights into the AFC South's fantasy prospects, emphasizing the importance of identifying undervalued players and understanding team dynamics. The interview with Todd Gurley offered a unique perspective on his role in the Rams' offense and his value in fantasy football. Whether you're a seasoned manager or preparing for your draft, the Fantasy Footballers delivered actionable advice to enhance your fantasy strategy.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Foot Clan. Before we start today's show, I want to remind you about ultimate draftkit.com that is the place where you can find the official Fantasy Footballers draft kit to prepare you for all of your fantasy needs this offseason. Look, we got a hundred video profiles, we have our expert rankings. We dive inside and give you full on projections for all these players. We give you a top 200 list, eight risk ratings on all the players, sleepers, breakouts, busts, and this. The great news about this Foot Clan, this is a living document. This thing is constantly alive because it is being updated. Look, Aaron Foster just signed in Miami. Boom. Jjayi, Kenyon, Drake, Aaron Foster, all updated. This thing is going to be updated all offseason to get you all the best up to date news for your drafts. That is ultimatedraftkit.com hey, what's up, y'all?

[Todd Gurley]

This is Todd Dillon, LA, round two on the back and you'll listen to Family Tree Football, this podcast, Foreign.

[Mike Wright]

Footballers Podcast, coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Ah, yeah. In a world. In a world where Todd Gurley joins the show. Yep, the Fantasy footballers are Thursday, July 21. Todd Gurley is going to be on the show today.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. And I'm gonna, I'll say another shout out to our man Willie Snead, who joined us on Tuesday. If you've missed that, head on back in the old podcast queue because it's there.

[Jason Moore]

How do you go back?

[Andy Holloway]

We've got to go back.

[Jason Moore]

You just click. Oh, you just click the one below. Yeah, I, when I was in California, I went to the Universal set and I got to stand next to the old Lion Estates from the movie.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh.

[Jason Moore]

I could feel the energy. Could feel. Doc Brown was actually there. He's sleeping back behind there.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not up to much these days.

[Jason Moore]

No, he's not up to a whole lot. So, no, we've got a good show for everybody today. We are going through yet another division. We're talking AFC South. A lot of, a lot of changes have happened in that division. Got the up and coming. Jaguars, Jaguars, Jaguars. I get, we get criticized, we get criticized for two pronunciations that are just, I guess, built in. One is Jaguars instead of Jaguars. I probably saying that wrong. And the other one is Bengals, like as though we said it with an A.

[Andy Holloway]

Like Bangles, because, well, the Bangles are a band. What is a rock band from the 80s that's saying about walking like an Egyptian?

[Jason Moore]

What's that. Aren't those called bangles?

[Andy Holloway]

No, those are called. Are those also Bugles? Bugles?

[Mike Wright]

Come on. That's not even close. Don't mess with me on my snack knowledge, okay?

[Andy Holloway]

You're talking the ones you make, you put them on your fingertips and you.

[Jason Moore]

You look like every time somebody says we say bangles, I'm picturing those snacks.

[Mike Wright]

That's a weird thing.

[Jason Moore]

You were way off. All right, we got news and notes. We're gonna talk through a few more breaking fantasy tidbits today. Today, I'm going to jump right into the quick question before we get to the division overview. As well as Todd Gurley, I'm going to also warn everybody. Todd Gurley interview was a good interview, but the, like, reception on the phone was a little bit rough. Now Mike has done some good work with it.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm doctoring up the best of my abilities.

[Jason Moore]

But when you have Todd Gurley on the phone, you don't, you don't hang up.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not like, Mr. Gurley, could you call me back on a better connection?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So just a fair warning there, but it's a good interview and he's got some interesting things to say about A one David Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

This is the first episode where I hope our good friend David Johnson is not listening.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, we need to get him back on the wall.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

No offense to Jordan Reed, but Jordan Reed's been out there too long.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

All right, quick question of the day, guys. This one comes in off of Twitter @Tom Morrison. 4. What is the better backfield to own, the Dolphins or the Bears? So that's an interesting question because when I read it the first time, I kind of think, I thought, you know, who's the better? Which back would you want overall? But this is more like which whole backfield you want.

[Andy Holloway]

Which situation would you rather lock down? Oh, and I'm going to lock up the. I'm going to go with the Dolphins. And just for the reasons I talked about it on the Tuesday show, diving into Adam Gase and his. His historical usage of a running back, I believe that it's. There is a good chance by the end of the season that somebody will be the guy. Maybe Aaron Foster is the magic man and can come back from a ruptured Achilles. Or maybe Jay Ajayi just proves to them why he was such a highly touted rookie coming into the draft besides his. His knee problem. So I would, I would personally go with the Dolphins.

[Jason Moore]

Can I take the Rams backfield? Is that an available choice here? Because I'D much rather have the Rams backfield than either.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't believe that everyone would.

[Mike Wright]

Well, because in that. In that situation, you get Todd Gurley. I'm going to Cunningham. Yeah. Well, if it comes with Todd Gurley, it's a better combo. I would say that if I had to take an entire backfield, I would also side with the Miami Dolphins. Just because you have Jay Ajayi, who fell to the fifth round because of knee concerns, and Arian Foster, who. I mean, you've got three guys there that are extreme injury back there, injury prone. But if I'm being realistic and going into a draft, I'm not doing either of those things. I would draft Jeremy Langford and I'm probably not going to draft any of the other people for where they're going.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, pop quiz. Jeremy Lankford in the fourth round or Jay Ajayi in the eighth round.

[Jason Moore]

A Jai, that's too big of a gap. I take a Jay in the eighth.

[Andy Holloway]

J. J in the seventh round, or Matt or Jeremy Langford in the fourth round.

[Jason Moore]

If you said four or five, yeah, I would have taken the higher Langford pick.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think I would take Langford in the fifth, which I have seen. So I think that's realistic that he gets to the fifth. He's been dropping a lot lately. I would take Langford in the fifth. I'm not going to take him in the fourth. Not because. Just because of him. But there's a lot of guys in the fourth. I like. Matt Jones has really risen for me after the Arian Foster signing because I was worried, oh, man, someone's going to come crash that party. But now he's. He's it.

[Andy Holloway]

The. The Abdullah lover on this show was sweating a little bit with that nonsense of maybe, maybe that Foster is going to go up to Detroit. But thankfully, that did not happen.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, if you want to follow the show on Twitter, if you've heard of Twitter before, we're at the ffballers. You can follow Mike at FF Hitman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Follow Jason at jasonason. Ffl. You can follow me at Andy Holloway. I'm the coolest of the three. We're also on YouTube. This is my read. Mike, will you please.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you're right.

[Jason Moore]

Just step away. We're also on YouTube, the fantasy sports Network, and on Facebook as well. And if you have a question for the show, we do mailbag episodes every week. We try to get those on quite a few of our shows. And you can send in your question at the fantasy footballers. All your information on there. If you need a super fast question, you can get those answered on there as well. You can connect with us on jointhefoot.com our fantasy community. And you know what we're gonna do today?

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Jason Moore]

We're gonna break. Oh, do I even have it on here?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We're gonna break a segment that we haven't done in a long time. We're gonna break it back out. Cause people have been asking, you know, where's the reviewasaurus? And you know what? I found it. I found it.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah. Footclantitle. Well, thank you.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

I think I have cracked the code on this forest character.

[Jason Moore]

Is it an actual American forest?

[Andy Holloway]

It. No, it's not W Forest. It's Forest W. It's actually Forest Whitaker, the Hollywood actor.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, from the USA though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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That's putting your money where your mouth is.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. That's true. You know, hey, you know what? I'll put this out there for the Foot Clan if you, if you don't make the playoffs listening to this podcast, we will return your all the money. Your podcast entry fee.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Well, to listen. To listen to the podcast, which was free. So I've tricked everyone.

[Jason Moore]

You might have just tricked yourself. Welcome. Welcome to the news. The Lions team reporter Tim Twentyman has said Steven Ridley is the favorite for the number three running back spot, presumably behind Abdullah and Riddick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, this is one of those interesting.

[Jason Moore]

The Zach Zinner discussion comes up here.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

A backfield to watch where let's say maybe you're not an Abdullah believer or. And you think one of these guys is going to be the big back. Ridley and Zenner. And if you don't believe in Abdullah, one of them is going to get some, some work. Allah Joy Bell and so there could be some fantasy production there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Do you buy into this?

[Andy Holloway]

I buy, I buy that it's Ridley.

[Jason Moore]

You lean more on the Ridley side.

[Mike Wright]

I do, yeah. If Ridley is looking good in camp, he's the more experienced and has been successful in the NFL versus the Zach Zenner.

[Jason Moore]

Back when it was black and white.

[Mike Wright]

It was only, you know, two and a half years ago and but in the middle of that was in, you know, he tore his acl. Of course he's going to kind of have a hard time playing with a torn acl. So if he's back and healthy, that's good.

[Jason Moore]

Another point in his column, a torn acl.

[Mike Wright]

The problem that I have with this is if he is in that guy in that role, if he's that goal line, short yardage, Joy Bell type of role, I think it just says that nobody's going to really be valuable there. The hope is that Amir Abdullah starts taking on that kind of work and that Zach Zinner and Steven Rizzo.

[Jason Moore]

Do you ever really expect Abdullah to be a goal line consideration? I mean, I certainly didn't, no.

[Mike Wright]

No. But there have been, you know, reports out of other beat writers from the Detroit area saying that they expect him to get three down work and if that's the case then, then he is more valuable. This report says Water's muddied.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, well I, to me it doesn't change Abdullah Riddick. It just changes the Zinner Ridley situation to me. Any other thoughts, Mike?

[Andy Holloway]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Appearing on Mike Clay's SiriusXM show, ESPN Colts reporter Mike Wells has said that Indianapolis is quote, definitely going to be a three wide receiver offense moving forward. Is this a, an indication of. Let's keep our eye on Philip Dorset.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. And this is kind of what you expected to happen or what we expected.

[Jason Moore]

To happen with no Kobe Fleener anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

Fleeners gone. And so the Colts are no longer trying to emulate that old the Patriot offense where they're running the double tight ends and look the three wide and with a team that likes to throw and Andrew Luck is an above average quarterback. Philip Dorsett is being left for dead essentially. This is what happens a lot. You know, he was a first round pick so there's huge hype and he didn't do very much in his rookie season and on top of that he got hurt, missed a bunch of time. But if he's out there, look, we, it's, it's not as I would say as strong a situation. But Green Bay, I want to know who the third wide receiver is there because that person has fantasy value.

[Jason Moore]

Well, look at Arizona.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Nobody thinks three, they're all three guys are getting drafted in Arizona. You got Andrew Luck.

[Andy Holloway]

If a team is going to run a three wide set frequently and they pass and they have a great passing attack, why would you not draft that guy? That's so it's. Keep your eye on.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he is being drafted. Mike Phil is currently the, he's the 178th player off the board.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there you go.

[Jason Moore]

Where is Dante Moncrief right now?

[Mike Wright]

Moncrief round I think is. Yes. Back of the six, 72nd overall, and.

[Andy Holloway]

That'S perfectly fine to me. I'm just saying.

[Jason Moore]

No, I know, but I'm just trying to decide whether I'd have, you know, if I had to choose if I'd rather have a free door set or a six round Moncrief.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, honestly, I think both of there is far more realistic than trying to grab like two of the three options in Arizona. You know, because it's so expensive, you could actually grab both of those guys and. And see who's going to break out.

[Jason Moore]

And if they're in 3 wide, I think Dorsett is firmly in the sleeper category.

[Andy Holloway]

And on top of that, if Hilton or Moncrief are to go down, Philip Dorsett, man, come on, get on the wagon.

[Jason Moore]

Very high pick invested on Philip Dorset. All right, this is interesting. I think a lot of people know Jamal Charles will be carrying the load in Kansas City as long as he stays healthy. But maybe they've wondered if it's gonna be Char west or Spencer Ware back behind. It looks like it's going to be Spencer Ware, according to Chiefs reporter Adam Teicher.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyker.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, both of them. So Spencer Ware, the number two. Do you consider him a handcuff?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

What do you consider him?

[Mike Wright]

I do not. I think he's just dominant.

[Jason Moore]

Last year they ran so much.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, this news isn't surprising to me that he's the number two. I don't think what we hear when we hear this news is we jump to, oh, if Jamal Charles goes down, Spencer Ware's the man. But that's not what this news was. This news is, while Jamal Charles is there, Spencer Ware is going to be the other guy. And that makes sense. He's kind of the complementary back. He's a bruiser. He's that short yardage guy just like they used to have, you know, before those guys were there. But if Jamal goes down, I don't think Spencer Ware is necessarily the guy. I think shark Hendrick west will take over that Jamal Charles role. Spencer Ware will keep the role that he's in.

[Jason Moore]

That's a really, really good point. It's the same type of thing you could see in Seattle. If Rawls went down, Collins could get first and second down where even though CJ Pro size might end up the two.

[Andy Holloway]

How dare you overlook Christian Michael?

[Jason Moore]

Like I said. Exactly what I said. Okay, so that. I think that's a really good point, Jason. When a guy goes down, it's not always the very fantasy friendly on paper. Just slide the depth chart up into the system. They like both guys, they offer different things. Obviously, Char west is a little bit more explosive, better in the passing game doing the things that Jamal Charles does. So we are going to talk about the AFC south next and have Todd Gurley join us for a interview here in a minute.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Mike had a real job at 1.1.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it was. I like music for video games.

[Andy Holloway]

I like that I was called Elite talent.

[Mike Wright]

You sure are, bud.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you guys want to hug over there?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

It's your turn to say something nice, Andy.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk about the Texans. Brock Osweiler, let's start in the AFC south with the Houston Texans. I'm a big fan of the Texans this year.

[Andy Holloway]

The offense or just them as a team?

[Jason Moore]

Just them as a team.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

In fact, didn't I.

[Andy Holloway]

You called the Texans to win the division.

[Mike Wright]

I believe last year you did. We had a water.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that was this year.

[Mike Wright]

Well, last year you did it and you might call them to win again this year.

[Jason Moore]

I'm trying. This is how many things we go through. I'm trying to remember if I called them as A potential super bowl team.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you said that as well.

[Jason Moore]

I think I said that. So I like them a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

I think losing credibility. By the moment.

[Jason Moore]

By the moment. All right, you've got Lamar Miller joining the, the Red and Blue in Houston. Basically a trade with Miami because he came over underutilized in Miami.

[Andy Holloway]

I think they won the trade.

[Jason Moore]

I think they won the trade, but we don't know yet. Lamar Miller has to perform in a, in a workhorse role here. You got Alfred blue behind him, DeAndre Hopkins, the fantasy darling of the first half of the season and throughout the year, obviously a huge high upside pick, first round draft pick. You've got a lot of different options behind him we need to talk about. And you got Brock Oswald, the new quarterback for Houston, coming in. This is a team that made the playoffs and was very successful with very little at quarterback last season. Dominant defense, you know, last year they were middle of the pack in all the offensive categories. 15th in rushing yards, 18th for passing yards. You know, they, they kind of protected the quarterback. They kind of, you know, kept him free from being hit just right in the middle of the pack across the whole gamut of offensive ranks. Let. Who's the headliner for you? Who do you want to talk about the most?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's not who I want to talk about the most, but he's the person I want to talk about first. And that is the Brockness monster. That is Brock Osweiler. Look, we don't know if Brock Osweiler is a, is a good or a great quarterback yet. We got a very small sample size and he was very.

[Jason Moore]

We know he's tall.

[Andy Holloway]

We know he's very tall. And he was the game manager last year when he came back. When he came in to replace Peyton Manning was, hey, Brock, don't lose. And you know what he's doing in Houston now? He's getting paid a lot of money. I think they're going to say, hey, Brock, don't lose because our team will take care of you. And I got a pop quiz for you guys and just what are your thoughts? Is Brian Hoyer a good quarterback?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Average.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. Average.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Average.

[Jason Moore]

Low. Low.

[Andy Holloway]

End starter Brian Hoyer last year with the Texans posted a 91.4 passer rating because, look. And he had great fantasy games because DeAndre Hopkins is there. So to me, I think that Brock is possibly being overlooked as a quarterback, too. I'm not calling him a QB one right now, but.

[Jason Moore]

Like an Alex Smith type.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

But if you're in a two quarterback league and you want to wait and take Brock as your second guy. That's perfectly fine with me.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they did what they could to equip him with weapons with Miller, with Will Fuller in the draft. They also brought in names escaping me third round. Braxton Miller.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

So they're trying to give him weapons.

[Mike Wright]

And they have last year's Jalen Strong coming back. Jalen Strong has lost a lot of weight.

[Jason Moore]

Wonder what this year's Jaylen Strong is going to do.

[Mike Wright]

He can't do last year is. But better than last year, right? Well, I'm saying you were talking about.

[Jason Moore]

Oh no, I like Jalen Strong. When they first turned.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a lot of buzz about Strong right now out of camp or from their OTAs and everything.

[Mike Wright]

The truth is for me is that because they brought in so many wide receiving options this year, they still have Cecil shorts. It's a hard one to say only after lunch. Jalen Strong. I feel like it's DeAndre Hopkins and then I don't want to. I don't want to deal with the rest. I think that's just. This is not a prolific passing offense that's going to spread the ball around and create a second and third wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Kansas City, Jeremy Macklin. And I don't want to mess around with another wide receiver even though there.

[Mike Wright]

Are other good wide receivers. City the system says from a fantasy standpoint, you don't want that.

[Jason Moore]

You don't get high production out of that second role.

[Mike Wright]

No. You want to know the guy I want to talk about the most from the Houston Texas because look, the Houston Texans, you got Lamar Miller, DeAndre Hopkins. Those are the guys. Right. So the question is, is there anything else there that matters? And I want to throw the name out of Tyler Irvin because he has not got a lot of publicity or love for.

[Jason Moore]

Not got a lot.

[Mike Wright]

Not got a lot of love not received from the. From the rookie running back core. Right. I mean we talk Kenneth Dix and we talk Kenyon Drake, obviously Ezekiel Elliott.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Howard and yeah, I mean the.

[Mike Wright]

List goes on and on. But Tyler Irvin is an. Is a name that I think when I just said it, a lot of our listeners might go, who in the world is Tyler Irvin? Tyler Irvin is a very good player who was brought in as a rookie drafted behind pretty much only Lamar Miller. I know Alfred Blue is there, but I think Tyler Irvin will be used even while Lamar Miller is healthy in the passing game in the kind of that Dion Lewis role. So I would just. If you're in a deeper league and you're looking at a late pick flyer, I would throw Tyler Urban on your watch list.

[Jason Moore]

Where do you guys have the carry totals for Lamar Miller? Projected. Are you able to pull those up?

[Mike Wright]

I think projected on the fantasy footballers.com website. Were you asking the location?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, I wasn't, but thank you for that.

[Andy Holloway]

This is what I'll say.

[Jason Moore]

Well, how many, how many do you have in projection?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we're, we're trying to pull that up. What I will say about lamar Miller. Bill O'Brien has been the head coach of the Houston Texans for two years and here is where he is ranked in rushing attempts, first and fifth in. Last year, that was fifth in rushing attempts despite Aaron Foster playing just a handful of games. So he was throwing Alfred Blue Grimes out there and saying, we're still going to run the ball a whole bunch. So to get a talent like Lamar Miller, if Miller is healthy for all 16 games and gets the workload you expect, would it shock you if Lamar Miller is a top three running back?

[Mike Wright]

No, not at all.

[Jason Moore]

No, not if he gets the workload. I'm a little concerned about whether they believe he can do the Arian Foster style workload because you gave examples of them rushing a lot, but they were spreading the ball around to different guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Because of the talent?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, because of the talent. Well, I mean, if they have talent in Irvin and Lamar Miller, I just, I don't know how many, how many do you.

[Mike Wright]

I have him down for 240 carries.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I had him. I had him around 250.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And when I look at 240, then the thing that pops out to me is that that might be a little.

[Jason Moore]

Low and he's going to be involved in the passing game. So I think to answer your question, Mike, he can be a top five back.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He just needs to stay healthy. So I'm sure he's licking his chops at the chance at more than 12 to 14 touches in a game.

[Mike Wright]

Well, probably think about this. When Lamar Miller went out into free agency, he said he wanted to be the guy he wanted workload that mattered to him. Where did he go? He went to a team that gave the running backs massive workload. And what did he do the last time he played that team or from the other, you know, vantage point when you were Houston and you played Miami and you had Lamar Miller go absolutely ham on you. That was that game where Lamar Miller ran for 2,000 yards. Remember that?

[Jason Moore]

In a game one game, one single.

[Andy Holloway]

Thousand, two thousand.

[Mike Wright]

But my point, look it up. Bill O'Brien, you know, he went out. They're going after a guy that they believe can fill that Arian Foster role is my thought. I don't think they're thinking, hey, now we split it up. I think they're thinking we've got the next Arian Foster.

[Jason Moore]

So right now Mike has Eddie Lacy, Ezekiel Elliott, Mark Ingram, LaShawn McCoy ahead of Lamar Miller. Do you still feel comfy with that?

[Andy Holloway]

It's. Lamar Miller is going to be a guy I re evaluate. I have him down for 245 carries.

[Jason Moore]

We have him at RB6. So I think that's a good consensus position.

[Andy Holloway]

And he is, I mean, he's within a fraction of a couple points behind those other guys.

[Jason Moore]

All right, last question. Sleeper from this, this roster, Houston's team. Is it Brock Osweiler?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Of the people we have talked about, it would be Oswalter.

[Mike Wright]

For me, it's Tyler Irvin and I'm.

[Jason Moore]

Going to throw out Will Fuller. I think Will Fuller actually establishes himself as the two. I just want makes enough big plays.

[Mike Wright]

To remind myself of that game. This is what he did against Houston. Lamar Miller put up 175 yards on the ground with a touchdown. Oh, and he also added 61 through the air with another touchdown. And then they go out and sign him.

[Jason Moore]

That's probably what Houston gave up in like total offense over the last eight games. Something like that. All right, let's. Let's transition here. Let's talk about the aforementioned Philip Dorsett and the Indianapolis Colts. The Dorset led the Dorset led Indianapolis Colts. We just talked about three wide receiver sets there. You got Luck, you got Hilton Moncrief. Dorset, you got Frank Gore. You've got the Josh Ferguson. If you don't know who he is, we'll tell you about him. You got Dwayne Allen. No more Kobe Fleener. And this is a team that, I mean, look, you can't even really look at their offensive ranks last year because Andrew Luck wasn't in the picture. I mean, you kind of have to throw those things away other than maybe the fact their offensive line was just atrocious. I mean, just giving up the second most hits on the quarterback. Tons of sacks. Matt Hasselbeck had no shot. He's like, I'm old and I'm supposed to be a backup. I probably should have signed with a team that can protect the quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

He was valiant, though.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he was good. I mean, he was borderline good. You're. You're in a situation like this. Yeah. So they spent a rookie first round pick on Ryan Kelly at center trying to build that Andrew Luck and Ryan Kelly tandem up for years on end here we talked about Dorset. So let's talk about Josh Ferguson. Tell everybody who Josh Ferguson is.

[Andy Holloway]

So Josh Fergan is an undrafted free agent running back. What?

[Jason Moore]

Fergen.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Ferguson.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, these things happen. Josh Ferguson, undrafted free agent running back.

[Jason Moore]

And nicknamed Fergie is the Duchess. Yeah, we'll just go Fergie.

[Andy Holloway]

So allegedly the Colts were looking at him as early as the fourth round. They obviously didn't take him there, but they the all reports that they were extremely happy to grab him. Right. Currently slated behind Frank Gore, old man strength Frank Gore. Robert Turbin. Robert Turbin just got in trouble with the law for I believe a drug issue. So that's there. There will be consequences coming for bicep Robert Turban. And behind him, I mean you have Jordan Todman, which he's, he's had value here and there. But if they like Josh Ferguson and he can rise up the depth chart, he's going to get playing time. And Frank Gore, there's no way that they can work him the way that they did last year with, with his age and just how many carries are on Frank Gore's body. So somebody in that backfield besides Gore will have I think standalone value. We saw a couple years ago when it was Bradshaw and I can't remember the other running back who was there at the time.

[Jason Moore]

Richardson.

[Andy Holloway]

Was it Richardson? Well, Richardson and Donald Brown and then. And Bradshaw keeps getting worked in. But they've had multiple running backs where they were all, they all had fantasy value because of the passing game and the high scoring offense. So Josh Ferguson to me is a guy that you. That is a must grab late on in your draft.

[Jason Moore]

The one thing I really like about Indianapolis is if you talk about the top five teams with young talent in the league offensively, it has to be, has to be in the Indianapolis. I mean you have Andrew Luck, then you've got the trifecta of Hilton Moncrief's what, 22 Dorset and you have Dwayne Allen and you've got, you know, Frank Gore. Well, that I was going to say one of these things is not like the other.

[Mike Wright]

He makes the average age 29.

[Andy Holloway]

He's throwing off the bell curve.

[Jason Moore]

He's throwing it off. But I just say that because Ferguson could be somebody they bring into that role. You know, I'm not expecting a ton from him other than to Detract from the Gore numbers.

[Mike Wright]

Here's. Here's what you need to do with the Indianapolis Colts in this year's draft. You need to draft them. Let me tell you some differences. Hot tip, hot tip. Draft the Colts. Because like you said, Andy, this past year, you kind of have to throw it away from our mind. It's hard to do that. We are so biased by recent events. We think that whatever happened last year will happen again. But last year, Andrew Luck, you know, had no offensive line and got destroyed and was injured and out, and the team was in complete shambles. But think about this last year at the draft. Perfect example, Dwayne Allen. Dwayne Allen was drafted in the 12th round. Dwayne Allen was drafted in the 12th round this year after losing Kobe Fleener. He's in the 13th round. He's lower than he was last year when they had Kobe Fleener. That's ridiculous. You start the draft out last year with guys like. Do you remember where Andrew Luck went last year? First round? On average, he was the 10th pick off the board. Ty Hilton was in the second round, Frank Gore in the third round. These guys were drafted this. This re. This way for a reason.

[Jason Moore]

Right?

[Mike Wright]

They were drafted high because the Colts are a great offense, but the offensive line struggled. Luck got injured, and. And now everyone has fallen too far.

[Jason Moore]

$140 million over six years, $87 million guaranteed to Andrew Luck this offseason. They don't believe that that was a sign of his normal play last year before the injury. So it's a good take. Those numbers that you just threw out there are incredible to me, especially Dwayne Allen, you know, the hype around Dwayne Allen and then for that to be. For him to.

[Mike Wright]

For him to be lower this year than last year is what in the world.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. And that, I mean, that's so much of fantasy football is seeing through the haze a little bit and finding the values in the late round. A guy like Dwayne Allen in the 13th round, you don't need to draft.

[Mike Wright]

The tight end early.

[Jason Moore]

So we were talking about Gronkowski last show, about the fact that maybe he's not really worth that first round pick anymore. Losing. Losing Brady for four games. Would you rather have. You know, I don't know who's going around eight or nine in the first round right now. Do you want to throw deander Hopkins? Sure. A.J.

[Mike Wright]

Green? Let me tell you exactly who's going.

[Jason Moore]

Does Brian.

[Mike Wright]

The guys going next to Gronk These are perfect. AJ Green on one side, Lamar Miller on the other side.

[Jason Moore]

Combine one of those guys with Dwayne Allen for free.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Would you rather have that combo than you would Rob Gronkowski?

[Mike Wright]

100% of the time I would rather have AJ Green with a Dwayne Allen than Gronk with. Let me see who's going around Dwayne Allen here. We've got. You can have. You compare him with probably Frank. Darren McFadden.

[Jason Moore]

No Darren McFadden or Victor Cruz.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Mike Wright]

That's nice.

[Jason Moore]

You said Victor Cruz's name in the like the nicest sense that it's been uttered in years.

[Andy Holloway]

Dwayne Allen in 2014 was basically last year's effort on 29 receptions. He had eight touchdowns. He only played 13 games, but he had eight touchdowns in that time. The guy can get it done in the red zone.

[Jason Moore]

All right. This might be the most fun division to discuss because now we're moving on to Jacksonville.

[Mike Wright]

These are your favorite. I think this is your favorite division.

[Jason Moore]

Jacksonville is a team that if you had to argue about best young talent with Indianapolis in the league, it is hands down. Jacksonville's in that top five.

[Andy Holloway]

They steal the show.

[Jason Moore]

They steal the show.

[Mike Wright]

Certainly do.

[Jason Moore]

Blake Bortles, Alan Robinson, Alan Hearns, you've got Yelden and I don't know whether they're going to make the playoffs this year. I think that I, I like the roster. I think we'll see some regression from Bortles. I, I have a hard time deciding what to do with the running game, but I still lean Yelden. This is a team that could pass the ball. Last year they really couldn't run it. They couldn't run it in the red zone. What, what say you about these Jaguars?

[Mike Wright]

I say they do not make the playoffs. That's not fantasy. But there's no way Gus Bradley will. Oh, sorry, Gus. Don't worry. Andy loves you. But from the realistic standpoint of this is a good division to be in, you only have the Texans that are a very difficult defense. So you're going to get a lot of easier games to play against. High scoring games like against the Colts. So the whole offense looks great. Blake Bortle showed that he, there was a reason why he was taken so high. He is a legitimate, above average quarterback in the NFL. Alan Robinson is going to get his targets. They re signed Alan Hearn. So you've got an offense that's going to be putting up points. The difference this year is that they hopefully won't be trailing quite as much as they did this past year. And if they're not trailing as much, they're going to be able to be a little bit more balanced. They were extremely unbalanced last year. Pass heavy, minimal running.

[Jason Moore]

There's not a whole lot of guys in the league I'd rather have in a were winning situation than Chris Ivory.

[Mike Wright]

Right. Chris Ivory, if you're up, he's going to be able to smash those 3 1/2 4 yards of carry and keep the ball moving. Hopefully he'll get some touchdowns which will obviously take away from some of the passing touchdowns you have Julius Thomas we haven't even mentioned.

[Jason Moore]

So if you want a refresher on Blake Bortle season, He was a 58% passer. He had 4,400 yards, 35 touchdowns, but 18 interceptions which I believe either led the league or was tied for league leading total. He also fumbled eight times. So you're talking about 26 turnovers, which, you know, if you've had Drew Brees in one of his high interception years, Eli Manning, that can get old. From a fantasy quarterback perspective.

[Andy Holloway]

It was the most in the league.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was the most in the league. So we did. Let me, let me bring this up. We talked about Philip Dorsett. We talked about Arizona. You got Rashad Green, who should be the three in Jacksonville.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Prolific offense or at least an upper, upper echelon offense. Do we need to put him in this leaper category? Would you rather have Rashad Green or Philip Dorsett?

[Mike Wright]

Dorsett.

[Andy Holloway]

Dorsett. Dorsett by a country mile.

[Jason Moore]

Philip Dorsett or Tony Dorsett?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go Tony.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, all right, Philip. But Rashad Green, I like the tad. When we had Alan Robinson on the show a couple months ago and he was talking up Rashad Green as a guy that the public needs to pay attention to. I just don't know if there's enough to go around for him. Especially with the addition of Chris Ivory. You have another guy eating away at touches and Julius Thomas was not a huge factor last year. If you remember, he missed a whole bunch of time being injured and then.

[Jason Moore]

He kind of being injured. It's just a funny way to put it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, sure.

[Jason Moore]

Like what am I going to do today? I'm going to be injured. I'm going to be injured today.

[Andy Holloway]

I've looked into it. You do a lot of sitting sounds like a drum.

[Mike Wright]

And then when he's injured, people are what are you doing? He. His response is wasting time. I'm wasting time being injured. Right. And that the words you use.

[Jason Moore]

Mm.

[Mike Wright]

All right. This has been Make Fun of Mike hour, brought to you by Andy and Jason. Continue, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we had such a good thing going. You said I was elite talent and now you've just crushed me.

[Mike Wright]

That's okay. I'm going to give you another compliment later.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the compliment sandwich.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

But look, Julius Thomas, I expect him to be far more involved. And so I just don't see a scenario where Rashad Green does is putting up any kind of a consistent level of fantasy production.

[Mike Wright]

What we saw from Rashad Green last year was when he was healthy and in the game, they would use him on a lot of short passes. He's more of that, you know, older Edelman type of role. The older Edelman?

[Andy Holloway]

Edelman?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. I don't mean age wise. I mean a couple years ago, Edelman. Last year they moved Edelman to the outside and they started kind of stretching.

[Jason Moore]

Green average like five yards a catch. Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

He's Cole Beasley.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, totally. But he's still the third guy and they like him a lot. So I mean, it's just a matter of PPR leagues, guys that are relevant on that plane. I mean, I think he's somebody to watch at 23 years old, very explosive. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

A name to watch. Just. He's not a sleeper for me.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that's fair. You don't have to, you know, be elite. The Tennessee Titans, we're going to get to the final team in the AFC South.

[Andy Holloway]

How can the Jaguars be your favorite team when the Tennessee Titans are your favorite team?

[Jason Moore]

I did not say they're my favorite.

[Mike Wright]

And how can the Tennessee Titans be your favorite team when the Texans are also. This is clearly your favorite division.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with you. I don't necessarily think I've been pronouncing any Titans love in a while. I think I told you I believed Marcus Mariota is a very good quarterback. I still like Mariota a heck of a lot. I think this is going to be a very run heavy run heavy offense. I'm pretty high on demarco Murray. I believe Murray will carry the load.

[Andy Holloway]

So you believe like there's all the reports right now are DeMarco from the Titans are DeMarco Murray is the guy. We think he'll return to form. He's going to be our superstar. He will carry it. But they spent a second round pick. Am I right there on Derek Henry?

[Jason Moore]

They did, yeah. And I do believe DeMarco Murray will carry the load.

[Mike Wright]

I completely agree Derek Henry will not be all that involved this year, in my opinion. The downside, though is kind of like what we just saw from the Jaguars. I don't think the Titans are going to be a good team this year. And it's you can want to run the ball all year, all day, but if you're down and the game script says you're down by two scores, you're not running the ball over and over.

[Jason Moore]

With the Marco Murray well and last year they couldn't run or pass. This is not a team that you're looking at and you're going well. They succeeded in one area of the offense. No, they failed in all of them. They were 25th in rushing, 25th in passing. There were times when you'd start a guy like Green Beckham late in the year thinking they have opportunities and the wide receivers for Tennessee would get two targets in a half. So that's a problem.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let me ask you.

[Jason Moore]

And making the jump from that level to fantasy elite is nearly impossible.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you, what kind of stock do you put into the all. There's still the whispers in the bushes that Taje Sharp, rookie Sharp is running in front of Dorial Green Beckham, I.

[Mike Wright]

Think, and in front of Kendall.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Which is what are you doing?

[Jason Moore]

Titans malarkey, you're moving on. It's, I mean, it's an exotic. Right. Look, I buy into that the best man's going to play and that Dorielle Green Beckham doesn't get anything handed it to him. I mean, this is, is this quarterback Patterson. You know, there have been guys drafted very high that if they don't evolve as a pass catching wide receiver, running better routes, being smarter, building a rapport with Mariota, that's what's going to happen. I don't think that Green Beckham's elite. I think he's an elite athlete. But I also think that he's the kind of guy that has historically needed motivation in the NFL. And so maybe that's what this is.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you have, if you have to draft any of these wide receivers, I'm easy.

[Jason Moore]

I'm taking Rashad Matthews because I think he's going to be the most balanced, even receiver. Even if his ceiling is like Reuben.

[Andy Holloway]

Randall last year, that's a good ceiling.

[Jason Moore]

Then that's what I'm saying. Like his ceiling is to be used. Right? Like that's what I believe about Matthews. I think he catches the ball, you know, in the middle depths and he's, he's consistent.

[Mike Wright]

So for me I am. I am definitely going to go with Kendall. Right.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

Kendall, right, Is the guy I want for sure. Mostly because he's going the latest. He's pretty much free in most leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

I think they're all close to free.

[Mike Wright]

But I think when it, when it comes to consistency, we've seen Kendall Wright be productive with Mariota, and then he got injured. You also saw, you know, he was drafted as an elite player. Kendall Wright was. So I think there are some tools where he could explode this year if he ended up being the guy and he's free. He's the only guy that I'm going to try to get here. I'm not really trying to get anybody. The only other player on the Titans I like is demarco Murray. For all the shade that I throw on him, I think his legs looked half dead last year. I think his value in the late fourth is, okay, I would rather have. I would rather have Murray than I would Carlos Hyde because Murray can catch the ball. And if the game script, you're talking about two bad offenses that both want to run the ball but might not be able to, but when it turns out that they've got to pass the ball, I actually believe DeMarco Murray will be involved in that game script. And I don't think Carlos Hyde will.

[Jason Moore]

I just don't understand why you can say something so smart like that last take on DeMarco Murray and something so dumb like your Kendall, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, champ, champ.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you can't go back in time here and tell me that Kendall Wright is a lead. I mean, he's got four years in the league. He's got one year where he was over 700 yards. I mean, it's one season. To me, you just can't hearken back to that. They brought in different guys. Green, Beckham. And you got Hunter and you got Matthews and you got Murray. Come on, I'll water bet you right now on Matthews. Kendall, right?

[Mike Wright]

No, I don't want to water bet.

[Jason Moore]

Of course you don't. Yeah, because you don't like water bets on. Because you just went back to 2013 and tried to back up Kendall, Right?

[Mike Wright]

Let me tell you this. If Kendall Wright and Rashad Matthews switch position in a draft, then my answer will be Rashad Matthews. I want Kendall.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Or Rashad Matthews.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Rashad Matthews.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

And the last guy correct. We got to talk about Walker. Of course.

[Jason Moore]

Delaney.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, Delaney. Walker was unbelievable last year because he was getting all the targets for Tennessee. Is that a situation that we can expect Right now, he is currently going in the seventh round and he has the sixth tight end off the board. He's going in front of Kobe Fleener, Ladarius Green and Maximum Barnage.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, those are all gross.

[Jason Moore]

I love Delaney Walker. He's got the best rapport with Mariota, and Mario is the future. When you have that, it's the Greg Olson and Cam Newton situation, it's something you want, but it doesn't mean he has to repeat those totals. And there's other. There are other pass catchers there named Kendall Wright, named Rashard Matthews, named DeMarco Murray. That will necessitate a reduction of targets.

[Andy Holloway]

So when. When are you jumping in on Walker?

[Mike Wright]

I'm not ever getting Walker.

[Jason Moore]

I would happily take Walker before a guys like Dwayne Allen.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

I take. I take Walker in the. Like when I say, where's Barnage going? Because I take him after Barnage.

[Andy Holloway]

Barn is going in the eighth.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was going to say probably 19th round. Yeah, I'm fine with that. I like the totals for PPR.

[Mike Wright]

If I can get Delaney Walker in the 10th, I am also fine with that. My point is, you're not going to get Delaney walker in the 10th. And the reality is, if he's there, yeah, sure. But the reality is, last year he had his career high by a mile. So let's applaud him. Yes, let's applaud him for what he did when everybody else on his team was injured. But this year he's not going to have anywhere near to the year that he had last year.

[Andy Holloway]

You are just a rhyming machine today.

[Jason Moore]

Can't get near to the year.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't get near to the year.

[Jason Moore]

We should definitely have him record this. Drop it down. All right, we've waited long enough. It's time to talk to Todd Gurley, star running back for the. Everybody catch this. Not the St. Louis Rams, the Los Angeles Rams.

[Mike Wright]

You talking to me?

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy footballers are very excited to bring on our next guest. On behalf of Gatorade, we are talking to Mr. Todd Gurley from the Los Angeles Rams. How are you doing today, Todd?

[Todd Gurley]

I'm doing good. How you doing?

[Andy Holloway]

We're doing all right over here. How's the offseason been treating you? What kind of things have you been up to?

[Todd Gurley]

Oh, man, we've been burnt. Thanks for playing. You know, relaxing, going out, traveling and just. It's been. It's been pretty busy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. How about the move to la? Has that been. How has that been a distraction for you at all? That's It's a pretty big thing.

[Todd Gurley]

No, it's been a while, man. Definitely keeps you busy for sure. I think the move actually been great.

[Andy Holloway]

That's good to hear, man. So what we love to do from when a player comes on the show. We love to hear the draft story. What was that day like for you? The running backs in general had been going much later in the draft until you came up and you got. You were a very high selection. What kind of emotions and things? What was that day like for you?

[Todd Gurley]

It was cool, you know I was just excited to be. I always wanted to go to Chicago so you know, just to be there for the draft and to be able to get picked. It was a good day. My family there, I didn't expect to be such a lot. So you know I was just kind of there just joking around and the next thing I know I got.

[Andy Holloway]

You had this huge breakout against our Arizona Cardinals. That that's our home team. So what was that like for you as a player to basically your real first game of action, you come out and you just absolutely destroy. Did you have any kind of celebration after that?

[Todd Gurley]

No, I don't really remember. I remember the game that I was. I know we had a flight back so we had to take the flight back to St. Louis. But it was a great game, man. I definitely never forget that game. Just to be able to go in Arizona and get a win from a great team, that was what only one of the two losses of those teams. That was definitely cool.

[Andy Holloway]

Talking about just referencing your college career. Your sophomore year. You were dominant in the receiving game and you weren't used a ton in the passing game last year. But when you take a look at the hole none of the Rams running backs were really high highlighted in the passing game. Have you talked, has the team talked at all about increasing your workload in the pass catching game?

[Todd Gurley]

I mean obviously, you know I definitely want to get better passing game but I don't call it play. So.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Todd Gurley]

We'll see when we get the champion during the game. But you know, right now I'll just keep running the ball. But as. And you want to cutie hard to hurt nobody.

[Andy Holloway]

I got a personal question here. I'm a man with a very large beard and I've noticed that your coach Fisher, he always has a spectacular facial hair situation going on. What's he currently wearing? Is he got the mustache, the goatee or has he got a full beard right now?

[Todd Gurley]

I'm pretty sure he's still got the mustache. I don't know. I haven't seen him in, like a month and a half.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. He has a majestic mustache.

[Todd Gurley]

Oh, definitely has a mustache.

[Andy Holloway]

So you, the Rams, you guys kind of have. You have a lot of youth on your offense. What kind of who's. Who is stepping up into the leadership positions for you guys right now?

[Todd Gurley]

A lot of guys, you know, just having, you know, veteran like, you know, Roger Sappho on the line, you know, it definitely helps out a lot. Just from him, his experience, and then, you know, for him to be able to talk to me, Rob and Jamon, just the younger guys. I'm seeing Greg, just to, you know, just to step up a little bit more each season or each week, you know, whether it's going to work out on the field. So just having guys like that on my own definitely helps out, but, you know, I think everybody knows what they have to do, and a lot of guys know they have to step up.

[Andy Holloway]

So we are a fantasy football program. So we took notice when you were asked candidly, for fantasy football, should you be chosen first, which you correct. I mean, you rightly said, yeah, take me, maybe. Maybe behind Antonio Brown or Cam Newton. Well, we got to tell you, we had David Johnson on our show a few weeks ago, and he said he should be the first pick.

[Todd Gurley]

Tell David to sit down.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. All right. So that's your official rebuttal is David, sit down?

[Todd Gurley]

Yeah, I was trying to steal my penis.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, man, I love it. So how is the fantasy football community treated you so far? I hope it's been positive.

[Todd Gurley]

Honestly, that's all. That's all you get is fantasy football. That's basically what you hear, you know, all day, every day. But it's cool. I know the players can see football, so I definitely don't know how it works, but used to hear that all the time. It's cool. Like, I told them I did this earlier. I was in the bank yesterday, and the lady, the cashier was like, oh, yeah, you got you on my fantasy team. I mean, my lead. So it's always good to hear that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's great, man. I'm glad to hear that. And so, Todd, we hear that you're the newest member of the Gatorade family. So, you know, a big congratulations. Can you tell us about the Gatorade Beat the Heat program and the role Gatorade is playing in your athletic career?

[Todd Gurley]

Yeah, this is the Beat the Heat program. Educated athletes, you know, about the importance of staying hydrated throughout the summer. You know, here in California, it's pretty Hot. And just being in Georgia and in North Carolina, it's pretty hot in here. So, you know, when you lose sweat, you want to replace it with electric light. Being able to drink Gatorade, fuse your body to help you get through those workouts and stay hydrated through the day.

[Andy Holloway]

Tremendous. And so we're in Phoenix here, so it's extremely hot. I know about the heat.

[Todd Gurley]

Gatorade.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was going to say. So we have told our listeners we have vowed to compete in a combine, our own combine. And it may not be the most beautiful thing, but. So you're telling us we need to get the Gatorade because therewater is important, but there's some things in Gatorade that just. That put it over the top to keep you healthy and hydrated.

[Todd Gurley]

Yeah, for sure. Just having the carbohydrates and electrolytes definitely helps feed the body. Y'all gonna have that combine of faint. Y'all might need to start drinking about three, four days before you are right.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, well, then, speaking of that, Todd, I don't know if Gatorade has ever sponsored a fantasy football show, but if you want to put in a good word for us, we would really appreciate that.

[Todd Gurley]

They hear you. They definitely hear you.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, man. Hey, Todd, thank you so much for your time. We really appreciate it here. Hope you have a great year. We know you will because you're a fantasy football monster and an NFL star. So thank you so much, Todd.

[Todd Gurley]

Thank you. Have a great day.

[Jason Moore]

All right, special thanks to Todd Gurley for joining us on the show. Taking a few minutes out from his busy schedule, you know, traveling across the country, probably because those moves, those take, like, what, weeks at a time, Oregon Trail style? Is that how they do that?

[Andy Holloway]

That and a lot ford rivers.

[Jason Moore]

And I have dysentery.

[Andy Holloway]

No, a lot of. A lot of squats. Todd Gurley does a lot of squats.

[Jason Moore]

You travel that way. Jason, I. You probably don't know this. You travel that way very slowly on the ground with the, like, wagons and things, because you're hoping Nick Foles is left behind.

[Andy Holloway]

He's the kid. All right, before we end real quick, where did you go? Was the banker or the farmer Oregon Trail or. I can't remember the guy who was in the middle.

[Jason Moore]

I was probably the banker.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you seem like a banker to me, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Was there a hunter?

[Andy Holloway]

There was. There was a couple.

[Jason Moore]

Hunting was the best thing, was my.

[Mike Wright]

Favorite part of Oregon Trail, shooting 400.

[Jason Moore]

Bison to take, like, a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Of meat back to the like, you killed 1500 pounds. You can only carry 100.

[Mike Wright]

Sounds good.

[Andy Holloway]

What have I just done to nature?

[Mike Wright]

And this is why the bison is almost gone.

[Jason Moore]

I like it. And you sold all of their pelts for profits.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Put it in your bank at least.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't waste it.

[Jason Moore]

All right, before we close, I want to remind everybody about fantasyjocks.com definitely. Check them out. The best trophies, draft boards, championship rings, championship jackets. I mean, these guys are the absolute best. What's our promo code, Mike?

[Andy Holloway]

Ballers.

[Jason Moore]

Ballers. If you guys need a trophy, engraving, whatever, that type of thing. Fantasyjocks.com check that out. Join us on. Well, after the show today. We'll have the show. After the show. I think Mike wants to talk some esports.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And then on Saturday we're going to have a mailbag episode and some other special things. We'll probably talk about the listener league a little bit on Saturday.

[Mike Wright]

Get your questions in and then Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Heads out of town for a little.

[Andy Holloway]

While and I gotta get ready, man.

[Jason Moore]

And we get a real analysis begins.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, five times a week is coming, my friend.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Check out jointhefoot.com, connect with us on there. Connect with the community. We'll catch you on Saturday. Take Bye.

[Mike Wright]

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