Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Top 15 Wide Receivers, Fantasy Updates

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Top 15 Wide Receivers, Fantasy Updates
Release Date: August 16, 2016
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Introduction

In this episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve into their newly updated rankings for the top 15 wide receivers for the 2016 NFL season. The trio provides insightful analysis based on preseason performances, roster changes, and emerging trends in the league.

Keep, Trade, Cut Segment

Time Stamp: [02:45] - [05:24]

The hosts kick off with their signature "Keep, Trade, Cut" game, presenting Jason's challenging scenario involving Sterling Shepard, Michael Crabtree, and Marcus Wheaton.

• Mike Wright:
  "Crabtree, to me, is a very good fantasy football player who has no respect. He's not going to be drafted high. You’re not getting traded Crabtree for value."
  [03:10]

• Jason Moore:
  "I’m gonna cut Michael Crabtree just cuz I like cutting Michael Crabtree because I have something against wide receiver twos. No, not really."
  [04:17]

• Andy Holloway:
  "I thought I could get you."
  [05:00]

Ultimately, each host decides to keep Michael Crabtree, trade Sterling Shepard, and cut Marcus Wheaton, emphasizing Crabtree's undervalued status in fantasy leagues.

News and Notes

Time Stamp: [07:34] - [47:22]

Major Trades and Player Updates

• Dorial Green Beckham Trade:
  [07:55] Jason Moore announces Beckham’s trade to the Philadelphia Eagles, critiquing the Eagles’ decision and labeling Beckham as a potential bust, particularly in fantasy contexts.

• Rising Stars and Injury Updates:

  • Jamal Charles Activated:
    [09:40] The activation of Jamal Charles from the PUP list signals increased opportunities for fantasy managers.

  • Rob Gronkowski Injury Panic:
    [11:11] Gronkowski's minor injury sparks fan concerns, reflecting his high value and injury history.

• Latavius Murray Named Fantasy MVP for 2016:
  [11:32] Jason Moore shares excitement over coach Jack Del Rio’s confidence in Latavius Murray, predicting increased carries and fantasy production.

Listener Engagement and Giveaways

• Listener Appreciation:
  [05:23] The hosts express heartfelt thanks to their listeners for support and engagement across various platforms.

• Giveaway Announcement:
  [06:51] They announce a giveaway featuring a David Johnson autographed jersey, a Fantasy Footballer sticker pack, and an Ultimate Draft Kit from UltimateDraftKit.com.

Top 15 Wide Receivers

Time Stamp: [15:58] - [46:15]

The core of the episode revolves around the hosts breaking down their top 15 wide receivers with detailed analysis for each pick.

1. Antonio Brown (#1)

   • Jason Moore:
     "195 targets caught, 136 passes, 1834 yards and 10 touchdowns. He had a 33% target share."
     [16:21]
   • Insights: Brown is lauded for his high target share and red zone efficiency.

2. Julio Jones (#2)

   • Jason Moore:
     "He had more targets, nine more targets, led the league in yards... You can draft the number one if you want."
     [17:04]
   • Insights: Jones’ consistent yardage and touchdown potential make him a top-tier pick.

3. Odell Beckham Jr. (#3)

   • Jason Moore:
     "He is a touchdown monster. He just finds a way into the end zone despite his size."
     [19:03]
   • Insights: Beckham's explosive plays and touchdown capability secure his position in the top three.

4. A.J. Green (#4)

   • Mike Wright:
     "He represents almost a tier of his own... consistency and situation make him stand apart."
     [21:16]
   • Insights: Green's proven talent and high target volume place him firmly in the elite group.

5. DEZ Bryant (#5)

   • Andy Holloway:
     "DEZ Bryant is an absolute monster... Do not fade DEZ Bryant because of last year's mishaps."
     [23:32]
   • Insights: Bryant's health and hunger translate to significant fantasy value this season.

6. Brandon Marshall (#6)

   • Jason Moore:
     "174 targets last year, put up 1500 yards and 14 touchdowns. Age is not an issue for WRs."
     [24:09]
   • Insights: Despite being 32, Marshall's experience and target share make him a reliable option.

7. Allen Robinson (#7)

   • Jason Moore:
     "An ascendant talent whose production is partially dependent on Blake Bortles staying consistent."
     [25:13]
   • Insights: Robinson's potential growth and rapport with his quarterback enhance his ranking.

8. DeAndre Hopkins (#8)

   • Andy Holloway:
     "Weeks one through 11, he was the wide receiver one in fantasy scoring... only getting nine and a half targets a game in later weeks."
     [27:32]
   • Insights: Hopkins' early-season dominance and strong offseason moves keep him in the top ten.

9. Mike Evans (#9)

   • Mike Wright:
     "He’s never been the super cut up; he’s large and that's his big thing. Expect double-digit touchdowns."
     [30:30]
   • Insights: Evans’ physical attributes and improved offensive line suggest a breakout year.

10. Alshon Jeffries (#10)

    • Jason Moore:
      "I cannot count on Alshon Jeffery to stay healthy for the entire year."
      [30:36]
    • Insights: Despite injury concerns, Jeffries remains a high-value target if he maintains health.

11. Demaryius Thomas (#11)

    • Andy Holloway:
      "Gary Kubiak loves to feed his number one guy, which is Demaryius Thomas."
      [32:13]
    • Insights: Thomas’ consistent production and supportive offensive environment bolster his ranking.

12. Keenan Allen (#12)

    • Jason Moore:
      "Allen is a PPR monster... he's the fifth wide receiver."
      [34:32]
    • Insights: Allen’s role in the offense and PPR format suitability make him a valuable asset.

13. Jordy Nelson (#13)

    • Andy Holloway:
      "How much do you believe that Jordy can return at his age from an ACL?"
      [36:45]
    • Insights: Nelson’s health and potential return to form are critical for his fantasy viability.

14. Sammy Watkins (#14)

    • Jason Moore:
      "Sammy Watkins will not be able to compete with the top tier wide receivers from a... 60 receptions won’t get it done."
      [39:05]
    • Insights: Watkins’ target distribution and offensive dynamics question his ability to stay in the top tier.

15. Brandon Cooks (#15)

    • Jason Moore:
      "Brandon Cooks is like Ty Hilton... dynamic weapons who score in different ways."
      [42:30]
    • Insights: Cooks’ consistency and role in a high-powered offense keep him solidly within the top 15.

Conclusion

The Fantasy Footballers provide a comprehensive and nuanced evaluation of the top wide receivers for the upcoming season, balancing past performance, current team dynamics, and potential for growth. They offer strategic insights that can help fantasy managers make informed decisions during their drafts and throughout the season.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway:
  "I thought I could get you."
  [05:00]

• Mike Wright:
  "Crabtree is very undervalued for fantasy purposes."
  [03:30]

• Jason Moore:
  "I’m gonna cut Michael Crabtree just cuz I like cutting Michael Crabtree because I have something against wide receiver twos."
  [04:17]

• Jason Moore on Latavius Murray:
  "We're still editing that video, but we'll let everybody see it very soon."
  [06:42]

• Andy Holloway on Sammy Watkins:
  "I think there is a very, very realistic situation where Sammy Watkins is, I'll put it at top eight. Top eight."
  [41:47]

Resources Mentioned:

• Website: fantasyfootballers.com
• Giveaway: footclangiveaway.com
• Join Community: jointhefoot.com

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Foot Clan. Before we start today's show, I would like to thank our sponsor, Head to Head Sports at [e-mail]. look, you want a different way to play some fantasy this year they have a salary cap format that goes the entire season and this is what they're doing for the Foot Clan, their complete package salary cap that is normally $24.95. But you know what? You head over to headtohead.com and you use the promo code ballers and you're going to save 40%. That is head the number two. Head dot com. Hey, this is Al Robinson from the.

[Jason Moore]

Jacksonville Jaguars and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in, everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, everybody.

[Jason Moore]

Hey. Welcome to the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Good morning.

[Jason Moore]

It is a good morning.

[Andy Holloway]

Good morning.

[Jason Moore]

It's a Tuesday morning.

[Mike Wright]

It's a topless show.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Mike Wright]

It.

[Jason Moore]

Top. Top.

[Mike Wright]

T O P. Top list.

[Jason Moore]

Show Top list.

[Andy Holloway]

Annunciation Professional Top list.

[Mike Wright]

The Human Torch was denied.

[Jason Moore]

We have a wide receiver top list also. We could just say our wide receiver rankings.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but saying it's a top list show sounds so much better.

[Jason Moore]

We're gonna have to mark the episode for a different user rating.

[Mike Wright]

It is what it is.

[Jason Moore]

We're doing an awesome top list D for dangerous. We don't want any of that. Hey, we welcome to the podcast, the fantasy footballers, Andy, Mike and Jason, back again as always, five days a week from here through the entire season. Excited to talk fantasy football with you today. We're going through our top 15 wide receivers on the show today, debuting those rankings. In fact, they have. If you have been to our website and you've looked at these rankings, they're different than what they were the last time you looked. I actually, I spent a lot of time this morning. I changed over 45 different players in my rankings, adjusting some up, some down just based on some of the preseason. A lot of it's just how the depth charts are shaking out some of these green.

[Andy Holloway]

Beckham is out of your top 10, right?

[Jason Moore]

I finally took him out of the top 10. That was prudent. Prudent move. Yeah. So we're going to get into a little bit of news as well before we get into the wide receivers. So I'm excited about that. We're going to kick the show off with a game of keep trade cut for a quick question.

[Mike Wright]

Keep trade cut.

[Jason Moore]

Tough one here. Well, I know Mike's answer. But Sterling Shepherd, Michael Crabtree, and we've got Marcus Wheaton. Keep, trade, cut Shepherd, Crabtree, Wheaton.

[Andy Holloway]

I wanted it to be as difficult as possible for you guys.

[Mike Wright]

This one is quite easy for me. Really?

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Well, and I can. I'll explain why I think it's easy because Crabtree, to me is. We talked about it last show. He's a very good fantasy football player who has no respect. He's not going to be drafted high. You're not getting. You're not trading Crabtree for value. Nobody's going to be like, oh, I got to get my hands on him.

[Jason Moore]

Or Wheaton.

[Mike Wright]

Or Wheaton. So who can I trade? Sterling Shepard. Someone out there is going to be super high on him. I think Crabtree ends the year ahead of Shepard fantasy wise. I think I can get more out of shepherd trade wise. So I'm keeping Crabtree, trading shepherd, and I'm gonna cut Marcus Wheaton.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought I could get you.

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna go ahead and keep Sterling Shepherd. Whoo.

[Andy Holloway]

There we go.

[Jason Moore]

You talk about my ranking. Sterling shepherd is ahead of Crabtree in my rankings. I think I will try to take advantage of some Martavis Bryant sad person that wants Marcus Wheaton. And I'm gonna cut Michael Crabtree just cuz I like cutting Michael Crabtree because I have something against wide receiver twos. No, not really. I have. I move Crabtree up as well in my rankings. I just. I'd rather hang on to Shepard and see. See what happens in that office.

[Mike Wright]

I actually want to verify whether I have Crabtree or Shepherd higher in my rankings.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, you can go ahead and do that.

[Mike Wright]

Mike, who you got?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna keep Crabtree. I completely agree that he is very undervalued for fantasy purposes. I'm not actually sure who you would get more for if you're trying to trade Wheaton or Shepard because I think that both of these guys have a little bit of hype, but I think Shepard will maybe fetch a little bit more. So I'll cut Wheaton and trade.

[Jason Moore]

I thought he might be. I thought it'd be a done deal. I mean, Marcus Wheaton is your Jerome Simpson.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, if it's just you just said.

[Jason Moore]

Sammy Coates's two fumbles were good for him yesterday.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't say that.

[Jason Moore]

That's how it sounded to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, we should go back to the tape. That's a. That's an interesting tape. If it was like, hey, you could hurt Marcus Wheaton's feelings by Cutting him in this game.

[Jason Moore]

You would do it.

[Andy Holloway]

I would do it. Take that. But I. Yeah, I think those guys are close of what you could fetch, so.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

I do indeed have Crabtree three spots higher than Shepherd.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

How high is Shepard for you?

[Mike Wright]

36.

[Jason Moore]

I have Shepard.

[Andy Holloway]

I should say. How low is Crabtree for you?

[Jason Moore]

I have Shepard at 29 now.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Got him inside that top wide receiver three zone for Shepard. I'm impressed by him, and I just don't think Cruz can get back. And you're talking about a lot of targets. All right, before we get into the news and notes, have some exciting things that happened this morning. I want to give a shout out to all the listeners out there. We really appreciate you subscribing to the show, leaving reviews on itunes, supporting the show on social media and the ways that you do that. We really appreciate it. That's why we do this show. And we. We don't want you to think that we forget that the Foot Clan is the best. Yeah. That is the refrain Jason repeats over and over, and it's the truth. We really appreciate all of the listeners, all the ways that you support us. And so we. I just wanted to say thank you to everybody out there that's been doing that for us. Shout out to everybody on our community [e-mail] and their support and make sure you guys all follow us on Twitter. We got a lot of good stuff going on. In fact, I got to see. I was able to see some of the early footage from our combine.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

And it looks pretty good.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And so I'm very excited to. We're still editing that video, but we'll. We'll let everybody see it very soon. Unless, you know, unless it's not done. Unless it's not.

[Mike Wright]

Also, as a thank you for our listeners, aren't we giving away jersey right now?

[Jason Moore]

We are. We're doing a free [e-mail]. we got a David Johnson autographed jersey we're sending out there. We're giving away a fantasy footballer sticker pack and photo. Yeah. And we're giving away an ultimate draft kit From Ultimate Draft Kit.com.

[Mike Wright]

We love giving things away.

[Jason Moore]

It is kind of fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of David Johnson. Saturday, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're in Arizona, check it out there. Pristine Auction is doing a meet and greet with David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

We'll be there.

[Andy Holloway]

And we will be. Well, it's not a meet and greet with the.

[Mike Wright]

Sure, it is. It is now.

[Andy Holloway]

We're taking it over.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So you can check that out. Let's go and get into the news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. If you want details about that, I tweeted them yesterday. Information about meeting David Johnson and hanging out with us, so. All right. The big news that broke this morning, Dorial Green Beckham has been traded on August 16th to the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Mike Wright]

Reuben Randall.

[Jason Moore]

That is a horrible indictment of Reuben.

[Mike Wright]

Randall and of Dorial Green Beckham.

[Jason Moore]

And of Dorial Green Beckham. Look, this is the problem that people thought might exist for Green Beckham in the NFL. He's got the physical tools. They told him to come into camp ready to go. He came in out of shape. He didn't display any consistency. You notice the coaches after every single practice and game. Well, you, you know, up and down, up and down. And so Philly comes in and they grab him, trying to turn him around. They don't have a lot at the wide receiver position, it seems. So Dorial Green Beckham traded the Eagles. He's. He's in our ultimate draft kit as a bust. So I guess nailed it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, now we got to think about whether or not he can actually have value in Philadelphia because I doubt that they're going to trade for him and, you know, put rookie wide receivers ahead of him on the depth chart like Tennessee did. This is also, I think, good news for wide receiver value in Tennessee. Even Delaney Walker. Yeah. Just takes one more mouth to feed out of that offense.

[Jason Moore]

I gave Walker a few more receptions today. I moved Kendall right up a little bit and I moved Rashard Matthews up a little bit.

[Mike Wright]

I really hope Kendall Wright can get healthy and get out there for week one, because if he can, he's a, he's a sneaky sleeper. I'm still, I still believe that.

[Jason Moore]

I definitely believe that in a PPR format.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Because I think he, I think what we saw last year when he was healthy was that Mariota likes to go to him the way he likes to go to Delaney Walker, you know, underneath. And he's got safe, sure handed receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Underestimating the sneakiness.

[Jason Moore]

Underestimated. Jamal Charles has been activated from the pup.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's great.

[Jason Moore]

Mike slams the desk. Enjoy.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I was very, very happy to see this.

[Jason Moore]

Is this just now? You don't to be as nervous.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would say so.

[Jason Moore]

We just talked about Spencer Ware yesterday.

[Andy Holloway]

And I believe that the, the way that this functions is he is. He cannot. Now that was a weird sentence. He can't be put on the pop to start the season right so they're activating him because they, they think that Jamal Charles is going to be ready for week one, which means I am ready for Jamal Charles Week one to feast.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

On the charges run.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to be great this year. And this is what we were talking about, you know, a week or so ago when he was still on the pup, was. He's. I doubt he plays in preseason games, but that doesn't worry me because he is off the pup. He's going to be practicing and doing things with the team. They're just going to keep him healthy. I love it. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Adrian Peterson doesn't even know there are preseason games. Nobody's actually ever told him. The Seahawks say that CJ Pro Size returned to practice on Monday. I saw a report breaking this morning from beat writers in Seattle believing that Thomas Rawls was firmly entrenched as the starter, thinking that he would lose maybe 6 to 8 carries a game to Michael. Okay, just another kind of.

[Mike Wright]

Every running back loses five to six.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, if you, if you want to know the numbers, I mean, look back at Arian Foster's heyday, and I think he was in 65% carry percentage, something like that. So everybody loses some. But just some information from there. It doesn't, it's not.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That's good stuff.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we have Rob Gronkowski went off a practice yesterday. Probably put some fan panic.

[Andy Holloway]

Twitter exploded.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They say it's minor. I know he's not at practice today, but I mean, it's Rob Gronkowski. They handle him with kid gloves.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. When it's Gronk, it's news because of his injury history and his value and.

[Jason Moore]

Being a first round draft pick. Yeah. And last bit of news, I think I did some major fist pumps in the office when I saw this yesterday. You guys know I went out on a limb making Latavius Murray My fantasy MVP for 2016. At least the news is trending the right direction. Coach Jack Del Rio said Monday that one of the Raiders goals this season is for Latavius Murray to finish with even more carries than he had last year, which is always a nice thing to hear when you've got an improved offensive line. And Latavius Marie was like the third most touches last year.

[Mike Wright]

And it goes in line with what you saw in that first preseason game that, you know, in on first down and on second down and on third down just really got the work. So hearing that from a head coach is great.

[Andy Holloway]

When you see it, it's a warm blanket. You Wrap yourself in that blanket.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, and we've had so much up and down news about Latavius and his bell cow status and the way the coaches talk about him. So this is great to me and to my Antony the Tiger as well, Tony the Tiger.

[Mike Wright]

So I love Latavius Murray and never forget that.

[Jason Moore]

And by the way, yeah I look Jason, I'm going to come out and I'm going to make sure that just because he's my fantasy MVP does not mean you don't get the credit.

[Mike Wright]

You know I've liked him for a long time but honestly I'm going to throw the credit back to you because it was actually the year where he had the two carries for 107,000 yards in a game where you fell in love with him. That, that really kind of.

[Jason Moore]

And let's keep in mind it's a lot harder to make somebody else's pick your fantasy mvp. You have to humble yourself and you have to allow Jason to be right about something and that's hard.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you're a humble man also. I will remind you and everybody that I am the champion in our league of record. You guys want to talk about wide receivers? Get to our top list of wide receivers certainly, because I sure do before we do want to remind everybody we said it at the opening of the show but Head to Head sports is a great place to play fantasy. You could play all sorts of sports but if you are looking for another fantasy football league to get in, they're good friends of the fantasy footballers and they are a great cool place to play. Season long salary cap type systems. You get in a league with 32 teams it is a very cool thing. In fact they've been around for 22 years with this game. We heard from some of our listeners when we advertised for Head to Head saying oh that's where I got my start in fantasy. I love it. And look when you, you play Head to Head you stick around and they are giving a great deal for you. You can play the complete package salary cap league which is usually 24.95. They're giving you 40% off.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

Wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's do it.

[Jason Moore]

Let's do it. We're going to break down our top 15 wide receivers. Little bit of shuffling. I'll let you guys know when we get to the spot in this list where some names changed around. We're going to go with Antonio Brown at number one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, spoiler and big shocker here. Antonio Brown, back to back world champion of the wide receivers.

[Jason Moore]

Just barely.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, wins a win.

[Jason Moore]

A wins a win. So look, you know, you know about Antonio Brown. 195 targets caught, 136 passes, 1834 yards and 10 touchdowns. He had a 33% target share.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh man.

[Jason Moore]

Which is number one in the league.

[Mike Wright]

That's for how much was he on the field?

[Jason Moore]

100% of the time.

[Mike Wright]

That's a good number. That's a real good number.

[Jason Moore]

He also led the league in red zone receptions with 17 at the wide receiver position. So they, they go to him anywhere between the One end zone and the other end zone.

[Andy Holloway]

The one in the zero and the.

[Jason Moore]

Zero, the zero and the zero. They throw him the ball. Not a complicated guy to introduce, but Andy. Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

With Martavis Bryant being gone, won't. Won't the coverage be harder on Antonio Brown?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's it. You never said that about Jerry Rice and you don' Say that about Antonio Brown. It doesn't matter.

[Mike Wright]

And we have proof from last year.

[Andy Holloway]

They tried it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean that. That's all there is to it. Antonio Brown, he's our number one consensus wide. Receiver. Number two, Julio Jones, all he did was have the same amount of receptions as Antonio Brown. He had more targets, nine more targets, led the league in yards, basically 13 targets a game. You can draft the number one if you want.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

I think there's no problem with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. I have absolutely no problem and would have.

[Jason Moore]

Would have beat Antonio Brown if it were not for two less touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And that's the thing for Julio. He's never really been a huge touchdown scoring machine, which is insane. Yeah, it really is. But with the second year for Matt Ryan, who we've. We've talked about.

[Jason Moore]

You're talking about the second year in that offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, For Kyle Shanahan's offense. We, and we talked about the numbers for Matt Ryan of how everything is spectacular. Completions, yards, completion percentage, yards per attempt. Everything was great except for, except for touchdowns. So in the second year of that system, I expect that can, it can increase. There is. We're not looking and saying, well, Julio is going to go down. It's very possible. Julio Jones is over double digits this year.

[Jason Moore]

There will be a positive regression for Mount Ryan. In the touch.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

In the touchdown totals. And the reality is, if you looked at Ryan's numbers last year, I believe they were bottom five in terms of, you know, throwing the ball deep, throwing the ball downfield, which is an odd thing because they used to do it a lot with Roddy White, and for some reason, when you give them Julio Jones, who you can just throw the ball up to and I'll find a way to get it, they didn't do it a lot last year, so I expect that to change this season. No reason he can't finish number one. I completely. I don't blame anybody in a dynasty league for making him the number one pick. Let's go to number three, Odell Beckham Jr. I moved Eli Manning up in my rankings this morning.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Makes sense. Eli Manning is my number seven quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

I have no Problem.

[Jason Moore]

I just really like that offense now.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. At the end of the year, Eli will have great, great stats. Are you worried about having him as a weekly starter?

[Jason Moore]

I think not. I think I'm okay with him as a weekly starter. Otherwise I wouldn't have. I don't think I would have made sure he's number seven there. You've got Shane Vereen out of the backfield and Rashad Jennings. You got Sterling shepherd coming into the fold. You got two good tight ends and you got Odell Beckham Jr. And you got an offensive system that is, you know, quick hit, very accurate. I like everything there. You know, Odell Beckham Jr. Showed me last year that, you know, there was no mirage to his performance he could beat last year. It was about can he beat the good coverage. He had the advantage of in his first season, having people learn who he was over a 5, 6 game period before he got. Before he received the major coverage. So now last year he beat it all. He had 160 targets, 96 for 1450. He is a touchdown monster. He just finds a way into the end zone despite his size.

[Mike Wright]

And one thing people forget when they look at those numbers and they go, wow, he was, he was all. He was right there with Antonio Brown and Julio Jones is that he played 15 games.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

He missed the whole game. I mean, what, what would his numbers if he didn't miss that game? I think, you know, there'd be a lot more people taking Odell Beckham number one this year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he probably would have. Probably would have been over. I mean, he would have been over 100 receptions, which would have made. That's the big difference. 130, 635 receptions for the top two guys. That's why I take them. But Odell Beckham Jr. Comes in at number three.

[Andy Holloway]

And to be clear, we get people asking us, who should I take number one and pick one of these three guys? To me, if it for me personally, it's Antonio Brown. But if you are saying, hey, am I crazy? I want Beckham number one, I want Jones, that's not crazy at all. These guys are fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

If you're indifferent, trade down.

[Mike Wright]

Agreed.

[Jason Moore]

If you're at number one and you really are indifferent, you know, you could pick up a fourth round pick to go from one, the first pick to the third pick. Maybe, possibly, if somebody really wants Antonio Brown. All right. A.J. green is our number four wide receiver on our consensus rankings. We're all huge A.J. green fans.

[Mike Wright]

To me, he represents almost a tier of his own. I Don't think we have him specifically as a tier of his own in our tiers, but that's kind of how I mentally view it. I feel like there's the top three guys, then there's AJ Green and then there's a huge group of really good guys that could all finish, you know, in that top five, but I'm not sure what, what order. But AJ Green stands apart because of his consistency, because of his situation. We all, we already know that he's an extreme talent. He's never had less than 1,000 yards in his career. He's had double digit touchdowns three of five seasons. And now you lose Mohammed Sanu and you lose Marvin Jones and I for.

[Jason Moore]

For a couple weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, he's going to get a ton of targets and he's as talented. He's as talented as any of those other three.

[Jason Moore]

I've wanted to. I have Julio in a lot of leagues and if somebody really wanted Julio and they had AJ Green and they would throw in something else on top of AJ I would look. I would look at that.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you trying to facilitate a trade.

[Jason Moore]

On the air, Brian, if you're listening, if you're listening, Julio can be had for AJ Green.

[Andy Holloway]

We all knew what you were doing. You might as well call him out by name.

[Jason Moore]

I'm telling the truth. I have Julio in a lot of leagues and I'm willing to take AJ Green and something else.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, that's the insight you get from our show. You get genuine. What would we really do?

[Jason Moore]

Hit me up on Facebook, Brian. All right. DEZ Bryant is our number five. He is back, baby. You saw it in preseason game one. He is a touchdown machine. I would not be afraid to bet a lot of money on him leading the league in touchdowns this year.

[Andy Holloway]

DEZ Bryant is an absolute monster. Look, everything kind of fell apart last year with the foot injury. With Romo out the previous three seasons, this is a. That's a large sample. Three entire seasons he was. He has averaged 91 catches for over 1300 yards and 13 and a half touchdowns for three years in a row. The guy is a proven monster. He is healthy. If you're seeing these snaps coming out of training camp. If you watch the preseason game, DEZ Bryant. Look, please do not fade DEZ Bryant because of last year's mishaps.

[Mike Wright]

And he's hungry. The thing I love about the preseason game is.

[Jason Moore]

You understand that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, look, I know hunger. The thing that I love about the preseason game is the fact that he talked himself into playing. He wasn't supposed to play in that preseason game. And he's like, no, I'm playing. I want to get the reps. I want to get out there. He is. I mean, I love that version of dez. I worried in the offseason that with the time off for healing on the foot surgery, maybe he'd come in out of shape. He looks like a beast.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Number six on our consensus rankings. Maybe this is where some people will be surprised. Maybe not.

[Andy Holloway]

Shouldn't be.

[Jason Moore]

Brandon Marshall's number six finished number three in fantasy last year. All he did was get faster. It seems this offseason. Lost a little bit of weight. Had 174 targets last year, but put up 1500 yards and 14 touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

But Andy, he's 32 years old.

[Jason Moore]

That works for me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. It's not too old for a wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's fine. Especially somebody who is just. His catch radius is the best in the league, in my opinion. He can manhandle people. He can still get down the sideline, and he's a go to receiver and a red zone receiver. So check, check, check, check, check. Ryan Fitzpatrick's back.

[Andy Holloway]

Brandon Marshall has had under 1000 yards twice in his 10 year career. That was. That was the rookie season. And then 2014 when he was hurt the entire year and the Bears thought, oh, we don't need Brandon Marshall anyway anymore. So they trade him away for pennies, which is a mistake. Last year, Brandon Marshall, extremely consistent. In 14 of 16 games, he either had 100 yards or at least one touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

I can tell you from experience, he was a delight to have in your lineup because you just never worried about a dud game ever.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Even games where it seemed like his yardage totals weren't there, you'd look up and he'd catch a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And for me, Brandon Marshall, I think there is possibly a slight down regression of the numbers. That's why he's number six for us. But when I say down, I'm not saying I'm plummeting him by any means into the base.

[Mike Wright]

You're saying he might get a dozen touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Maybe he only gets 11.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All right. Allen Robinson's our number seven. He was not here this morning before I made some adjustments to my rankings. He was actually behind DeAndre Hopkins. He is now above him. Allen Robinson is an ascendant talent whose production is partially dependent on Blake Bortles staying consistent. If the thing about Bortles, just like Cutler was for Brandon Marshall, is willing to be a gunslinger. Throw the ball Downfield, put it in a position where Brandon Marshall, guys like, you know, Alan Robinson, they go up, they make the play, they make up for you not being maybe as accurate as you could be. That's what's nice about Robinson. Look, he's just a really, really good wide receiver and he's very young.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. When you can run routes the way he does and then you can catch errant balls, I mean, you make separation and then if the ball isn't even on, you catch it. You're. You're a great red zone target. First of all, I mean, go watch. Just, just Google. Do yourself a favor and google Allen Robinson back to back catches, Week 1 preseason, and watch the video that comes up. And in one drive, he just had, you know, back to back catches that were stupid, just ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he. Maybe we call Blake Bortles, Errant Rogers. Oh, his accuracy leaves a little to be desired, but at least he's willing to take those shots downfield. And you liked seeing the building rapport of that wide receiver core in Jacksonville and hopefully an improved defense, a team that is a lot better this year. Allen Robinson has a lot of upside and he caught what, how many touchdowns last year? 13.

[Andy Holloway]

14.

[Jason Moore]

14 touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

He was 14, 14 touchdowns. He made it nice and even.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Which I can, I can get behind that, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He really worked his stats out.

[Mike Wright]

He's only 22 years old.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's what I mean.

[Mike Wright]

I mean that's ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Anyway. And he comes to work. He comes to work. So number eight, DeAndre Hopkins. Probably somebody's number four. Yes. Probably somebody's number three.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

192 targets last year. 1500 plus yards, 11 touchdowns. Very interesting breakdown though, first and second half of the season. Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Weeks one through 11, he was the wide receiver one in fantasy scoring because he was getting 13 and a half targets a game. That coincided with the Houston Texans defense. Just, it was so bizarre how bad they were to start the year. And then eventually they got it turned around. They turned into the defense we were expecting all year. So weeks 12 through 17, DeAndre Hopkins was only getting nine and a half targets a game and he was the wide receiver 22. So I mean, and what I thought was really interesting going through all the numbers for Hopkins of being the 192 targets. He only had over 10 catches twice.

[Jason Moore]

It's also. They didn't really have a running game. You bring in Lamar Miller.

[Andy Holloway]

Why, why do we got to say these things about all for Blue?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. Because it's True.

[Mike Wright]

Low hanging fruit.

[Jason Moore]

Didn't really, you know, you bring in Lamar Miller, you draft Will Fuller and Braxton Miller, you have Jalen Strong coming into another season. Nothing wrong with DeAndre Hopkins could absolutely finish in the top five.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Just some reasons to think, you know, after the second half of the season, plus some of those moves, the way they want to play on offense, the way the defense plays, pretty much what.

[Mike Wright]

We just said about the other three guys are the, those are the reasons why the order is this way for.

[Jason Moore]

Our consensus number nine, Mike Evans, the drop of source Rex. But despite his drops, he still caught 74 balls for 1200 yards, only three touchdowns. That is the big, the big story for him. Mike Evans, young like Alan Robinson needs to be more consistent, but should be able to positively regress in the touchdown category.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you saw his rookie year. He comes out and scores 12 touchdowns. So for him to only get three touchdowns last year, 148 targets, I mean that, that has to go towards that median number. And so I fully expect him to have the thousand plus yards and the 10 touchdowns. And I love what I've seen in the offseason this year because he's, he's never really been the super cut up. You know, he's large and that's kind of his big thing. He's six, five. But he and Jameis this year have really worked out hard together. They've come in looking hungry. I think that offense can take a step forward. I expect huge things from Mike Evans this year. And if he gets double digit touchdowns and a thousand yards, you are a wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

One Alshon Jeffries, our number 10 consensus wide receiver. I moved him down today.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's the truth.

[Jason Moore]

I cannot count on Alshon Jeffrey to stay healthy for the entire year.

[Mike Wright]

Why? Because of last year?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I will say that, I will give you this. The fact that he.

[Jason Moore]

And the beginning of camp, I was.

[Mike Wright]

Gonna say the fact that in camp he had that injury. However, last year when he, when he, you know, tweaks his hamstring, it kept lingering through camp, through, through everything. He was back in like two days. He was in the preseason game. He's already over that. So to me, I feel like Alshon might be a value this year in the sense that I think your, your opinion is, the common opinion is that Alshon, you're not going to get 16 games from him. And so it's hard to take him high. But in the games he played, he was, you know, basically a top five wide receiver. And he's played 16 games. In his previous, you know, the year before he was 16 games. The year before that he was 16 games. So I feel like he can play. He's also on that franchise tag playing.

[Andy Holloway]

From playing for a contract. And in those years when he played a full season 2013, Alshon Jeffrey was the wide receiver 8. 2014, Alshon Jeffrey was the Wide receiver 11. So he had back to back wide receiver 1 seasons. And I understand the concern of the soft tissue for Alshon Jeffrey, but I agree with Jason that if you're willing to swallow that and make the leap, then Alshon Jeffrey could turn into a huge value for you in your drafts this year.

[Jason Moore]

All right, number 11 is Demaryius Thomas, who is tried and true at the wide receiver position. People probably have concerns about the quarterback. We've talked about it on the show. You've got Sanchez or Simeon or lynch. He had 176 targets last year, put up 1300 yards, only six touchdowns. I think I haven't projected for high 90s. Still in the receptions and eight touchdowns, he's kind of been a double digit touchdown guy. I think the targets are still going to be there. I'm rising on Demarius Thomas. I just think he's not a sexy pick compared to people who want to go out and draft Mike Evans. But I don't think there's any reason why demarius Thomas can't finish with with high target, high reception totals.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I completely agree with this. His down year last year, you know, over 1300 yards, he was the wide receiver 13. So I guess because he finished out a wide receiver one and people are thinking, oh, Peyton Manning is gone. You know, they've upgraded the quarterback position this year. If Mark Sanchez is the starter, he is an upgrade over Peyton Manning last year. And I feel very confident saying that watching Peyton Manning play, looking at the actual breakdown of how abysmal Peyton Manning played last year. So I just, I have, I don't have the quarterback concerns for Demaryius Thomas. Gary Kubiak loves to feed his number one guy throughout his career and that's going to be Demary Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And Demarius Thomas has not lost anything. I mean, he's a superstar, he's young still. He, if you watched him in preseason game one, he's still very fast, looks strong, no problems with Demarius. Keenan Allen is our number 12 consensus wide receiver. Obviously had the major injury last year. Before the injury, he came out in eight games at 89 targets, caught 67 passes for 725 yards. And four touchdowns. This is an offense that if you looked at last year, I believe Philip Rivers was the second to last in average yards per attempt. It's an offense that Allen fits into very well. He needs to obviously be healthy for the entirety of the year. But the injury that he had last year wasn't something that we're worried about recurring. And Allen is a PPR monster to me. I don't think the touchdown tolls are going to be there to make him a wide receiver one this year, but I'm sure you guys disagree.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, I think we disagree with each other in the sense that this is probably one of those players that we have in our top 15 that we have the largest split on. I have him as a wide receiver 15, so he is outside of wide receiver one. Mike has him as the fifth. He's the wide receiver number five. So there is a wide range of outcomes. If you give him what he did the first half of last year and say he does that for the whole year, then absolutely he's the fifth wide receiver. I just don't believe that that would have happened. I don't think that his type, you know, that short, you know, 10 yards, 11 yards per reception is going to be able to be that true upper echelon fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

I don't want him as my one. I would love to get Keenan Allen as my two, but I don't want him as my one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and I can understand that. The where I'm going of why I love Keenan Allen is what Jason was talking about.

[Jason Moore]

You should talk. You got him at 5.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that he is the focal point of the offense. He's going to be among the target leaders in the NFL. And look, his rookie season, right, he was, he was almost 15 yards of catch. So it's not that that is impossible for Keenan Allen. It's. We're not looking at like a Jarvis Landry situation where you think, okay, that's all he is. Keenan Allen can do everything.

[Jason Moore]

But just because he can do it and did it back then doesn't mean that Philip Rivers, right, he's in an offense now. It'd be like if Brady was there. You know what Rivers can do now, right? Well, Rivers doesn't take the ball downfield.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Rivers still can. And you have Ken Wise and Hunt, you have a. You have a slightly different offense coming in. So I think that there will be a little bit more deep shots happening. And I just, I. The way that I see the work Keenan Allen getting, I think that the touchdowns can be there. He had four touchdowns in eight games. Maybe he doesn't get to 10, but I certainly see a scenario where he's at eight or nine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I could see him getting eight, eight touchdowns. But again, when compared to these other wide receivers we've just talked about, all of the other wide receivers I think have a much better chance of getting double digit touchdowns over Keenan.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's go back in time with number 13 here. Let's go back to 2014. He had 151 targets, 98 receptions, 1500 plus yards. If we're going back 13 touchdowns, are.

[Mike Wright]

We talking about Hordie Nelson?

[Jason Moore]

Oh my God.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe the J is silent.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. Wow, you're going way back for that one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Horty Nelson.

[Mike Wright]

Horty Nelson. Julio Jones. Those are my guys.

[Jason Moore]

Julio Hones. Yeah, yeah. Jordy Nelson at number. Jordy Nelson at number 13. All right, so what do we think of Jordy?

[Andy Holloway]

It's. It's all health, man. It's. How much do you believe that Jordy can return at his age from an ACL? Because in 2014, if you happen to be one of those lucky Jordy Nelson fantasy owners, you know that he carried you likely to a championship. He, man, he was so good in 2014. But it's.

[Mike Wright]

The question is not just 2014.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

13, 12.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I'm just saying the most recent we've seen him play. But it's the health in. I don't know where, I don't know where else you can. What else you can even really talk about with Jordy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. If he is healthy and he's able to do what Jordy has done, which at his age, we have plenty of history of people at his age coming back off of the acl. Fine. So if he comes back fine, he should be great. Let me see where Hordy is going right now. You can get him in the second round, but you're going to be taking him right now he's going above Mike Evans, Keenan Allen. It's tough with that injury.

[Jason Moore]

I'm fine. If you want to take him above both those guys.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, because if he's healthy, I think he finishes above those guys. You're talking about a guy who very well could be, you know, the fourth best wide receiver this year with a hungry Aaron Rodgers who's.

[Jason Moore]

You've got a lot of hungry players this year. I'm so you've been mentioning about a lot of hungry players.

[Mike Wright]

We got to record like after lunch.

[Jason Moore]

Have you had enough? You Know what I did yesterday? I had four regular double stuffed Oreos and then I had four of the blueberry pie Oreos.

[Mike Wright]

You had a good day is what.

[Jason Moore]

You said the Blu Ray pie were better yesterday. You know that Mike won't try them.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I will not.

[Jason Moore]

Because my Frankenstein monster, you know nothing, Jon Snow.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I know. I know some things.

[Mike Wright]

You won't even try them.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's the problem.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I will not.

[Jason Moore]

But he will disparage them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

It's just like Devontae Freeman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, kind of.

[Jason Moore]

He won't try him, but he'll disparage him. All right, Sammy watkins at number 14. We've got 95 targets last year. I will not back down from my contention that Sammy Watkins will not be able to compete with the top tier wide receivers from a. I don't care how many bombs you can attempt to catch. If you have 60 receptions, you're not going to get it done. He's a great, great player. That is competing in an offense that likes to run the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, they do. But you can look at. There was. There was a clear shift. Look. Sammy Watkins came out, he decided he was going to be the squeaky wheel. And he said, if you want me to be a top wide receiver, you need to give me the ball. And there was just. There was reports of him sitting down on the aeroplane with Tyrod Taylor, who is now his quarterback. Tyrod Taylor. And from weeks eight through 17, Sammy Watkins was the number five wide receiver for Fantasy, above your beloved Julio Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

So to say he can't do it, I think is. Is clearly unreasonable. But the reality that we have to.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm saying he won't.

[Mike Wright]

Right. Sure. When we project long bomb touchdowns, that is the least predictable type of. You know, we can't.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Jordy went from 13 to what, 311 year? I mean, Jordy was that kind of guy as well.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Horty. Sorry. Sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's. It's not just. It's not just the bomb touchdowns for me. If you look at the. The target trend for Sammy Watkins up through the first half of the season, he wasn't. He didn't even hit double digits in targets. And then in the second half of the year, he has four. He has a game of 10 targets. 12, 10 finishes out the year with 15 targets. I think that they. I think there was a very distinct change that they said, okay, we're a running team, but we also need to get Sammy Watkins the ball. A guy that we traded our first round pick or a future first to move up a couple spots to claim him in the draft. So. And combine that his dynamic talent. I think Tyrod Taylor as is a good quarterback. I think there's. To say he won't, I think is a bit hyperbolic. I think there is a, there is a very, very realistic situation where Sammy Watkins is, I'll put it at top eight. Top eight.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not going to call him a top three guy, but top eight, he's.

[Jason Moore]

In the category of Kenan Allen to me, where I'd love to have him as a 2, not a 1.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he's, he's close and he's going to give you these boom games. But I'm just, I haven't seen the consistency yet from, you know, look at Ryan, you know, Rex. I just don't know if he's going to commit to it.

[Mike Wright]

Well, right now, Sammy Watkins, all this debate back and forth as to whether or not he can be the top five, top eight type of guy, which I definitely think he can be top eight and I think he will be a wide receiver one this year. He's going in the third round behind Kelvin Benjamin, you know, just ahead of Randall Cobb and Jarvis Landry. Sammy Watkins is a much better talent than those guys and I would draft him over them 10 out of 10 times.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree with you. Brandon Cooks at number 15 to round out our wide receiver top 15 today. You know, do we have a lot to say about Brandon Cooks?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think there's a ton to.

[Jason Moore]

Say other than the fact we kind of just think he'll end up here.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a, it's Drew Brees. To me, Drew Brees is leading Brandon Cooks. I know there are a, there's plenty, plenty of people out there who love Brandon Cooks. They firmly believe in him. I just, when I watch, when I watch Brandon Cooks, I just, I can't fully buy in and maybe that's a ridiculous thing of me. Maybe I, maybe I should buy in. I'll need, I'll go back and I'll look at some more Brandon Cooks because he's a guy that a lot of, a lot of fantasy people out there are pegging to be this year's explosive guy to make the big tier jump. But for Brandon Cooks, you want to talk about a consistency problem for the first half of the year, he was not, he was not good. And maybe, maybe that completely linked up with Drew Brees and his shoulder problem in the offense. Of New Orleans.

[Jason Moore]

Didn't you just make an argument about the first half of the year being bad for Watkins being irrelevant?

[Mike Wright]

Well, that was a shift in.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

That was a very specific event.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm trying to make the argument for Cooks like, I'm trying to talk through both sides of it, but when it comes to the, to the end, I just can't, I cannot firmly buy into Brandon Cooks.

[Mike Wright]

Look, I think anybody would want the number one target for, for a high passing Drew Brees led offense. That will be Brandon Cooks. The question is just, you know, a question of value. You know, if you look at last year, yeah, he was the number one target with 129 targets on the team. But then, you know, Ben Watson was right behind him with 110. Willie Snead was over 100 targets. You're not talking about a huge gap between, you know, targets on the field but where, you know, Willie Sneed's being drafted in the, this, you know, double digit rounds.

[Jason Moore]

Brandon Cooks is Ty Hilton. People had the same problem getting on board with Ty Hilton. They're the exact same size. That's the exact same type of player. It's just like John Brown too. They're all the same. They're the same guy. Where you look at them and you say, is he really because of the size, because of the way they're utilized, is he really able to be a one? That's what, that's what people say about him. I mean him and Hilton are perfect comparisons to me because super speedy for years and the same argument. You just said you want the number one guy in a Drew Brees led offense. You want the number one guy in an Andrew Luck led offense. It's true. And I think both guys are probably, probably deserve more credit than less because they're doing it with a different, you know, physique than some of these top tier guys. But they're dynamic weapons. They can still, they score in different ways. They score on a 15 yard in Route that they take to the house as opposed to a jump on the back of the end zone. So I think Cooks deserves credit. I think you do put a lot of the confidence in the quarterback for both Hilton and Cooks. And we'll get into, we'll get into Hilton on the next show as well as the next, I don't know, 10 to 15 wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

How many times do you think Brandon Cooks went over 100 yards?

[Jason Moore]

That's a really good question because I. Last year he had, last year he.

[Andy Holloway]

Had over 1100 yards. 84.

[Jason Moore]

I would say he probably went over 100 yards five times.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, do you want to get in on this?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to say I know he had some monster games so that would, that would skew it. I'm going to say four times.

[Andy Holloway]

Four times, yeah. So it's Cooks. Cooks is very, very baffling to me.

[Jason Moore]

So.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he's still our consistent. He's our 15. Oh yeah, we're not, we're not crazy down on him.

[Jason Moore]

He's ranking up ahead of Hilton and Michael Floyd Edelman and those guys. So that is it for our top 15. If you want to see the full rankings, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com that's where you can check out everything we have to offer. There was a really, really good article that came out on our website yesterday, actually several, but I'm going to highlight one of them that showed what the ADP was for the different leagues. Espn, Yahoo. Compared to our rank showing, depending on the league you're in, what kind of value you might be able to get for players. Because a lot of players, if you're drafting online, maybe they're paying attention to the kind of the order and the ranking of ESPN or Yahoo or cbs. And so it kind of just is a really eye opening thing where, oh my gosh, I might be able to get real good value on this player if I'm playing in this type of league. So check that out on the website. We've got a lot of articles going up every single day trying to provide you as many amazing free resources as we can to make your 2016 fantasy football season big time.

[Andy Holloway]

Big time.

[Jason Moore]

Big time. So big time, big time. Yeah, big time. And go enter the [e-mail] Go get involved with that David Johnson jersey.

[Andy Holloway]

That giveaway is big time.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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