Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Two QB Mock Draft Episode

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode Summary Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Two QB Mock Draft Episode
Release Date: July 7, 2016
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Introduction to the Two-Quarterback Mock Draft

In this engaging episode, the Fantasy Footballers—Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright—delve into a live two-quarterback (2 QB) points-per-reception (PPR) mock draft. A popular format among fantasy enthusiasts, the 2 QB league requires strategic adjustments compared to traditional one-quarterback leagues. The trio emphasizes the importance of understanding these nuances to gain a competitive edge.

Listener Engagement: Ideal League Settings

Early in the episode, Andy addresses a listener named Ryan who inquires about the hosts' ideal league configurations. Jason enthusiastically responds, highlighting their preferences:

Jason Moore [04:43]: "12 teams would be our preferred. Half point PPR is the scoring format that we like."

They discuss various league components such as keeper spots, bench positions, and specific scoring nuances like 0.1 points per carry for running backs. This detailed breakdown serves as a valuable resource for listeners looking to optimize their league settings without sifting through multiple episodes.

Executing the Mock Draft

The core of the episode revolves around the live mock draft conducted from the 9th spot in a 12-team 2 QB PPR league. The hosts select players while discussing their strategies in real-time.

Early Rounds: Navigating the Quarterback Surge

The draft kicks off with a surprising influx of quarterbacks being selected early. By the first eight picks, six quarterbacks have been drafted, a stark contrast to standard drafts where QBs are typically selected in later rounds.

Jason Moore [07:17]: "You have to get those off the board because this is not something you would normally see."

Faced with a rapid depletion of available quarterbacks, Andy and Jason decide to prioritize wide receivers over quarterbacks, selecting A.J. Green and subsequently Todd Gurley. Mike contemplates balancing his roster by opting for running backs like David Johnson or AJ Green.

Andy Holloway [10:34]: "I would not take a quarterback in the first round. If it were up to me right here, I would take A.J. Green."

Jason echoes this sentiment, expressing a preference for wide receivers to maintain roster flexibility:

Jason Moore [10:39]: "A.J. Green would be my pick as well."

Mid Rounds: Building Depth and Flexibility

As the draft progresses into the third and fourth rounds, the hosts continue to evaluate the best available talent, balancing immediate performance with future potential. Mike opts for Mike Evans, valuing his PPR upside, while Jason remains content postponing his second quarterback choice.

Mike Wright [15:35]: "I'm looking at Jordan Reed. I'm also thinking about LaShawn McCoy here."

Andy introduces additional strategies, emphasizing the importance of having multiple quarterbacks to exploit weekly matchups:

Andy Holloway [19:51]: "Now you have no quarterbacks. They're all gone. They're practically gone."

Late Rounds: Finalizing the Roster

In the later stages of the draft, the hosts fill out their rosters with a mix of running backs, wide receivers, tight ends, and a backup quarterback. Jason selects DeAndre Washington to bolster his running back depth, while Mike focuses on securing a reliable wide receiver in Kamara Aiken.

Jason Moore [41:37]: "I would pick DeAndre Washington."

The final team compositions reflect a balanced approach, prioritizing depth and versatility to navigate the complexities of a 2 QB league.

Strategic Insights and Final Thoughts

Throughout the mock draft, the Fantasy Footballers share valuable insights into managing a 2 QB roster. They highlight the importance of:

• Flexibility: Waiting on quarterbacks allows early rounds to stockpile high-performing skill positions.
• Depth: Securing multiple running backs and wide receivers mitigates the risk of injuries and bye weeks.
• Matchup Play: Utilizing a rotation of quarterbacks provides the ability to exploit favorable weekly matchups.

Mike Wright [46:23]: "I love it. I would be super happy with this team going into a draft."

The hosts conclude by reaffirming their strategy of delaying quarterback selections while focusing on building a robust and flexible roster.

Community Engagement and Support

Before wrapping up, Andy extends gratitude to their supporters and encourages listeners to engage with their community through various platforms. They highlight the benefits of their website, fantasyfootballers.com, which offers a wealth of resources, past podcasts, and interactive leagues.

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This episode serves as an insightful guide for fantasy football enthusiasts navigating the intricacies of a two-quarterback league. By showcasing a live mock draft and discussing strategic decisions, the Fantasy Footballers provide listeners with actionable strategies to enhance their draft approach and optimize their team performance.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in, everybody, to yet another episode of the podcast. I'm Andy Holloway, joined by Mike the fantasy hitman himself. Oh, it is. It is. I. And good grammar. And Jason Moore, not known for his grammar.

[Jason Moore]

Not known for my grammar. But you want to know what I am known for? Keeping a clock on that NFL season. 62 days to go. 62 days until the regular season kickoff.

[Mike Wright]

Which really means the Thursday night.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the Thursday night.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Which means we're weeks, weeks away from, like, the prime fantasy football drafting season.

[Andy Holloway]

My son keeps a clock on his birthday, and he asks me every day how many days until his birthday. But you're talking in the, like, 40s and 50s, and every single day, he has to know the exact amount of days till his birthday. It's a hard labor. As a father, do you do days?

[Mike Wright]

Because for my kids, it's always how many sleeps?

[Andy Holloway]

How many sleeps?

[Mike Wright]

How many times do I have to sleep before something great happens?

[Andy Holloway]

Is that what fantasy owners are doing right now?

[Mike Wright]

That's what I'm doing.

[Andy Holloway]

How many sleeps before the hall of Fame game?

[Jason Moore]

My little one is always minutes, Always. Oh, you got minutes until my birthday. Like, I don't know, 10 million.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that one. You have to figure that one out for the next show, Jason. Right. You'll have to figure how many minutes until kickoff. But welcome in to another episode of the podcast. It is July. It is July 7th. So hopefully you had a good holiday earlier this week.

[Mike Wright]

And safe.

[Andy Holloway]

And a safe holiday. Talking to you, Jason, Pierre Paul. This is a good show. We've got a two quarterback mock draft. PPR mock draft we're doing live on the show today. These mock draft episodes are always a hit because you get to kind of listen into the mindset that we have as we approach a fantasy draft. And this time we've got a two quarterback draft. We have not done a live two quarterback mock on the show.

[Mike Wright]

The People. This season the people have demanded that we go with the two quarterback. The system is growing in popularity, so we want to make sure that we can get our thoughts out about that as well.

[Jason Moore]

And people always want to know, like, well, how does that change? We're always talking about draft quarterbacks late. Do you have to do it? Are you supposed to do it in a two quarterback? Well, you're about to find out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it'll be very, very educational for everybody involved and entertaining, I'm sure, because we'll have some disagreements on who to take and where to take them. It's a 12 team mock draft, so we're going to get to that very shortly. I want to make sure you can find us and you can do that on the [e-mail] actually have a brand new homepage up there. A lot of our articles, the fantasy football resources, lots of free resources on the website, including all the podcasts from the past. If you want to go back and listen, they're really great in the offseason to go back and listen to former shows, previous shows, because this is not content that's expiring. You're not talking about week four in week five, that type of thing. So the offseason has a, you know, if you want to do some things around the house and you need something to listen to, go subscribe on itunes. Listen to the show. You can follow us on twitter @the ffballers. We're also on YouTube, the fantasy sports network. We're on Facebook, so you can find us everywhere. And if you have a question for the show, you can go submit them on the website as well. I have a quick question for you guys. Going to direct this one to Jason. This comes in from a listener. He says he's been a listener since last year. He said there have been several shows in which we've talked about the best league format and setup in our opinion.

[Jason Moore]

Ah, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

However, he wants to know if he, if we can create some sort of document that includes all the facets of our ideal league. So this could be keeper spots, bench spots. And then he says in parentheses, everything. So everything. All the details. He said it would be really helpful and would not require sifting through multiple episodes to pull out the relevant data.

[Jason Moore]

You know what listener whose name I have already forgotten. I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't mention it. So you're in good shape. His name was Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Ryan, you are such a beautiful, smart man. Actually, we do have this content up. One of the things that we do Here is you know the fantasy footballers. We want to bring people together our foot clan community over at Joint the foot they have access to the foot Clan Leagues FootClanLeagues.com and with access to that they can like join in these leagues. I'm going to take the. We have our what we refer to as the ballers preferred and we've got every detail of it posted there but that, that is restricted. I'm going to put an article on the site with just that content because everyone should be able to have that. I agree with you Ryan and so we will post an article soon on the website but here it is really quickly. 12 teams would be our preferred. Half point PPR is the scoring format that we like. We feel like that levels the playing field very well. Usually one quarterback, six point passing for quarterback touchdowns levels of the field. Again I would get rid of the kicker but I believe our ballers prefer has a kicker spot. Two running backs, two wide receivers, a flex. Anything I'm missing maybe stuff. Yeah we very much like keepers. Like keepers. I know some people feel like that lowers the quality of the draft but I can tell you the way that we do it. Our draft is still the pinnacle of the year and keepers just keep the offseason going. So there's a lot of great things and there are more details and a few surprise like kind of little. If you look at the small details there's a few scoring things in there like a 0.1 points per carry for the running backs that's a little bit different than what you might have out there. So go to the fancy footballers.com probably tomorrow and I will post all that information on there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah that's, that's really good information. And again this is more of the curiosity of the listener wanting to know our ideal format or wanting to kind of set up a league without doing all of the thought process behind every micro setting.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe you're new, maybe you're new to the game but yeah we want some guidance.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah we play in a lot of different leagues with different scoring formats hence the two quarterback mock draft we're doing today. And so it's kind of whatever your flavor is. Right. Let's go ahead and get, let's get into it.

[Jason Moore]

The fantasy footballers mock draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Alright, let me set the table again. We're going to kick it off right away. We're drafting from the nine spot in a 12 team 2 quarterback PPR mock draft. We're doing it right now. I'm going to start the mock and Antonio Brown comes Off the board at number one. Cam Newton goes to Aaron Rodgers goes three, Julio four, Russell Wilson five, Lev Bell six, Odell Beckham Jr. Seven and Andrew Luck eight. I will keep this mock draft so I people can reference it on the website. You can go and look at all the picks because as we get into the draft we're not going to be reading every name from every single round. That would make that impossible and not entertaining whatsoever. So here we are. You can already see the huge difference. When you have two quarterbacks in a league, you have four that have gone off the board now in the first eight picks. This is not something you would normally see.

[Jason Moore]

No, not, not in a normal draft. And so that's why a lot of times people are like I waited till the 10th round like you say in a two quarterback draft and all the quarterbacks were gone. It's not just a matter of where you draft them. It's. It's also dependent upon what the other people in the draft are doing. So right here it's not what's the value of costing you a first round pick. But okay, we're taking, if we took a quarterback here, he'd be the fifth quarterback off the board. We have to get value there in order to take the fifth quarterback off the board. So I would say we've got to have like our number two or three quarterback at least if we were to take the fifth quarterback off the board in the first round, which I guess is there's kind of a guy that is in the running at least. Drew Brees to me is my number three.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you got Drew Brees still there. And then I think some people might consider Tom Brady if he's not suspended. Suspended. But otherwise I don't think there's anybody that I would jump at in the first round. I like the fact we're doing this because we are such big proponents of late round quarterback drafting. And so our standard methodology is waiting on quarterbacks until you can get value. And generally for quarterbacks in a 1 quarterback leave value comes later in this type of league. Now, now it's really different. We really have to look at the quarterback position and put off the bias that we have or maybe the kind of the habit that we have of just waiting and waiting and waiting. Now Mike, I know generally wants to wait here too.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I still, even in a two quarterback league I wait a little bit. I'm not saying I wait till the eighth or ninth round but you know, usually around that three, four is where I will, I will start looking so for me here in this first round with all. All the big guys are gone, I'm looking at taking a. Either a David Johnson or an AJ Green. Those are my top two choices right here.

[Andy Holloway]

So David Johnson, Todd Gurley, both on the board. DeAndre Hopkins, Des Bryant, A.J. green on the board at the wide receiver position. And like Mike said, David Johnson an option here for sure and a full ppr.

[Mike Wright]

So it just depends on how do we want to play this. Do you. Do we want to go with the route of taking the quarterback right here or do we want to wait till. Wait a couple rounds and I'm fine going either way. I know. I believe the two of you generally prefer a quarterback a little bit earlier.

[Andy Holloway]

I would not take a quarterback in the first round. If it were up to me right here, I would take A.J. green.

[Jason Moore]

A.J. green would be my pick as well. Looking at, you know, Drew Brees is a little tempting, but, you know, to me, I do plenty of these mocks with two quarterbacks where I go both of them later, and I'm still happy with it. I think I would be disappointed if I missed out on AJ Green here.

[Andy Holloway]

A consideration is this is a snake draft, so we are drafting 9th out of 12. So we'll come around to our pick very soon. Let's go ahead and select AJ Green as our first pick off the board in this mock. Drew Brees drafted immediately after AJ Green, followed by David Johnson, Devonta Freeman, Demarius Thomas, Tom Brady, and DeAndre Hopkins. I should remind people we are doing this mock draft live on fantasydraftwizard.com and you can do these every single day. I think they give you three or four that you can run through every day.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you must if you want to prepare yourself for your draft because it gives you such a gauge.

[Mike Wright]

Very ominous.

[Andy Holloway]

And obviously Jason will enforce.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

We used them last year. It's great.

[Jason Moore]

I've used them for many years. Super easy to remember. So next up on the board here, there are a lot of guys that I still like at this spot. Before we get to that, though, we got number two. Before number two, we got to take One second and give another shout out to our awesome sponsor, Football Hall. That's H A U l dot com. We just got our football haul about a week ago and it was awesome. Every single month we are getting one of those awesome boxes with $75 plus in value. Every time we open the box, there are things for the whole family. Decorations, games, prizes. You've got literally limited edition stuff in there and also exclusive stuff you can't even buy if you want to get it anywhere else. If you're a football fan and you want sweet gear, you want some?

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Oh, Tom Brady blew it.

[Andy Holloway]

Tom Brady went in the second round. Wait, who blew it? Tom Brady.

[Mike Wright]

Tom Brady blew the string of d.

[Andy Holloway]

Names because DeAndre Hopkins was next and DeAndre Hopkins. So this is very interesting because now you did see one, two, three, four, five, six quarterbacks off the board in the first 15 picks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you have any regrets, Mike, on not taking Drew Brees?

[Jason Moore]

Zero.

[Mike Wright]

I have zero regrets.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was gonna say ask me. I have zero regrets.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, all right. So what's the best available on the board right now in your guys opinion?

[Mike Wright]

So for me we, because we are in the ppr, I'm maybe I'm looking at a running back. Sometimes I like to go balanced, you know, get, get a. Lamar Miller. Elliott is on the board. Ingram and Charles are the running backs I'd be looking at. But I'm taking a gander, a quick gander over there at the wide receivers and still left elite elites like DEZ Bryant, Allen Robinson. Keenan Allen is elite for me and PPR. Brandon Marshall 1 of Andy's favorites. I mean this is a, this is a very tough decision for me at this spot with the elite guys who are still left.

[Andy Holloway]

Rob Gronkowski's on the board. Any temptation with Rob Gronkowski?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there is temptation. That was the name I was actually going to bring up here. Usually we talk about this all the time. If you're in a standard redraft league, you do not ever want to take a tight end early and a quarterback early. That will just ruin you by comparison to other teams. When it comes to the important depth it seems like we are going not quarterback early and we're kind of punting that a little bit. So I question whether or not Gronk would be a good positional advantage here.

[Andy Holloway]

We're taking it to the limit. That's what we're doing with the quarterback position.

[Jason Moore]

We're going to try to see how late we can push.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, here's the deal I'm looking at. Let me tell you my reaction to the quarterback on quarterbacks on the board. You have Big Ben, who none of us are very high on. I've met 10 overall. Okay, so that's fine.

[Mike Wright]

I mean he'd still be a great one for me.

[Andy Holloway]

I was called Haiti H A T E Y for having Big Ben at number 10.

[Mike Wright]

These things happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Carson Palmer, Blake Bortles, Eli Manning, Tony Romo. These are all options. I'm kind of okay with any of them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's why I'm so.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't really want to take a guy. This is an example of, you know, we have the tiers on the Website for the ultimate draft kit. This is an example where, okay, I have a number of quarterbacks in the same tier. Why would I take the top of that tier or one of the guys when there's six remaining? And that's my problem here is if you told me, okay, your first quarterback is going to be Tony Romo instead of Big Ben, I. I'd be like, all right, that's fine.

[Mike Wright]

And it's playing the draft right here.

[Andy Holloway]

So I don't see how we let Gurley get biased here at the second pick.

[Jason Moore]

I completely agree. The reason it drops is because it's ppr and people say, well, he doesn't catch the ball and so you don't want him. Look, he's still going to be a phenomenal asset. And to get him in the second round, that would be my pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, there's only three quarter three running backs off the board so far. Le'Veon Bell, David Johnson and Devonta Freeman and all of those guys makes. Since right in the PPR format, I think Gurley is the right pick here.

[Mike Wright]

And personally speaking, I would go Jamal Charles because we're in ppr, but I'm perfectly fine taking Gurley.

[Andy Holloway]

What would you like to do, Jay?

[Jason Moore]

Let's draft Gurley.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so Todd Gurley off the board. Our team is AJ Green and Todd Gurley. And now we get to wait a little while. We're going to see more quarterbacks come off the board here. Gronkowski went right after Gurley, and you had Des go. You had Roethlisberger and Palmer go in the second round. And then we get into the third round. And you also had Blake Bortles and Eli Manning go, and Mark Ingram was the last pick. I think Mike would have just maybe freaked out if Mark Ingram made it around to the ninth pick of the third round.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that would have been some absolutely unbelievable value. But there is a name that immediately jumps off the list for me.

[Andy Holloway]

So we're sitting here, third pick, which is the ninth pick of the third round.

[Mike Wright]

And there are still, with the amount of quarterbacks that have gone off, I believe it's 10. So I'm playing the draft. I don't think people are going to start taking their second quarterback yet. Which leaves the list of guys that I find acceptable as a quarterback, one in the range that I can still get one in the next round. And Mike Evans is on the board for me here in round three. So that's. That's where I'm looking. I think PPR machine guy with 74 receptions. I'm trying to pull up his targets here. 147 targets last year, and I think that's going to go up. So that would be my pick.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's the clear runaway, highest guy on our consensus rankings here. There are a lot of running backs and wide receivers who are very juicy. So this is where, when you're going against the grain and not picking that quarterback, you better have an advantage in your running backs and your wide receivers, which we will by grabbing, you know, a Mike Evans in the third here. And really, there's quite a few guys I still like there.

[Andy Holloway]

I won't linger too long on this selection, but Amari Cooper is a guy that is also on the board. We have him. That's a pretty big gap in our consensus. So I think the pick is obviously Evans. We like the upside of Evans and the target numbers of Evans. And I think in a ppr, as long as he can catch the ball next season, he can.

[Mike Wright]

You know what? I don't care. He can drop all those passes. That's fine. He's just. He's going to get the targets in the production.

[Andy Holloway]

It sounds like Mike Evans is our pick.

[Mike Wright]

He is for me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Universal.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so we're coming back around to our fourth pick. Or it's our fourth pick and it is the fourth pick of the fourth round.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's like golden, golden pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Now we're staring down guys like Philip Rivers, by the way, went off the board. So just if you're keeping track of how light we're waiting on quarterbacks, you're talking about Tony Romo still there. Carr, Dalton, Mariota, Cousins, Winston Stafford, Ryan. But you're certainly in other. A different tier than the top of the quarterback board. So is Romo. Is this the place that Romo could go for us if we wanted to? Because it kind of seems like we're nearing the end of a tier to me because I would take Romo significantly over Derek Carr or Andy Dalton or Mariota. Yeah, I'm pretty. He will be gone is the story.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he probably will be gone. Philip Rivers would have been a strong contender for me here at the pick. But just going through my. My rankings, I like guys like Jamis and I'm trying to think who else I have.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't possibly want Jameis as your. As your first quarterback in A two quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

I would. I would have no problem with that.

[Andy Holloway]

And in fact, you would have no problem with it.

[Jason Moore]

I would have no problem taking Jameis as my first quarterback. And that's a quarterback. A lot of these drafts that I've been doing. My first quarterback in a two quarterback league has been Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, just because you've been doing it doesn't mean it's a good thing to.

[Jason Moore]

Do at the end of the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, I've been drafting and I got my first quarterbacks, Ryan Tannehill lately.

[Jason Moore]

So yeah, clearly that's what I meant is I've been doing terrible drafts and that's what you should do. No, at the end of the draft I've really been liking the depth on my teams and the quarterbacks that I get late. So I'm not personally here. I don't see Tony Romo. Like I pulled up our UDK and according to our udk, Tony Romo is in basically one of our largest tiers, the tier five. And I think that there's a lot of guys there that are, that are still in that tier of player name. Some of them Jameis Winston, Derek Carr, Matthew Stafford. Obviously Fitzpatrick is, would be, I think if he actually signed. Come on Jets. Tyrod Taylor is even in this in the same tier. And I think we can, we can grab one of those guys in another round.

[Mike Wright]

So you're, you're willing to push another round?

[Jason Moore]

I am.

[Mike Wright]

So who is your.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to get outvoted and I just want it on the board that I really would like a two quarterback team solidified with Romo here. So Eddie Lacy, Lashawn McCoy on the board. Ty Hilton, Randall Cobb. What are your, what are your thoughts here? I've still got Jordan Reed sitting there in a ppr.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, Jordan Reed here is interesting. Greg Olson for me, Jordan, my picks. I'm looking at Jordan Reed. I'm also thinking about Lacey and Shady McCoy here. We're talking PPR. Shady was still peppered with targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would take Shady over last year.

[Mike Wright]

So I, I would, I think I lean Shady McCoy here, but I want to hear some thoughts.

[Jason Moore]

I would love LaShawn McCoy with this pick. I think he's in a PPR. He was used in the passing game. He was excellent in the passing game last year and he's one of my guys. He might be, you know, in another month or so we're going to have our famous my guy episode. You know, Lashawn McCoy could end up being the my guy at running back. I find him in draft after draft as a good value.

[Andy Holloway]

Some say in nightclubs. You find him in nightclubs?

[Jason Moore]

Well, he's there too.

[Andy Holloway]

This is so jarring in a way to See the, the level of talent available in the fourth, fifth, sixth round here because you can see how many guys are on the board and who is going to fall because of how many quarterbacks are coming off the board in the beginning of this draft. So McCoy I'm fine with. He's the one guy that jumped out to me other than taking a quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

And the way I'm probably going to play this, we're on our big weight here. I'm taking Shady McCoy here and then I'm going to go quarterback. Quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So that's, that's what I was going to ask you is we had Romo, Carr, Dalton, Winston and Taylor all go off the board.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

In between the McCoy pick and now where we're at the ninth pick of the fifth round, you also had Eddie Lacy, Dion Lewis, I think an interesting PPR play in the fourth round there. Latavius Murray went off a guy I moved up today. He made my RB one. He's a, he's number 12 on my board right now. Laugh it up.

[Mike Wright]

No, it's just Latavius Murray is so interesting. Here's the thing, because he was. The production was there last year, the opportunity is still there and I just can't buy in. And maybe it's just me, maybe I got this weird bias against him, but I just, I can't feel myself buying into the team.

[Jason Moore]

So does that mean that you, if you don't believe in him the way that last year you didn't believe in Joseph Randall? Sure. Does that mean that you are buying stock in DeAndre Washington at the end of drafts?

[Mike Wright]

100% I will be. DeAndre Washington is one of my late round targets completely. But that's. Sorry we're off tasks. Back to the mock draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, actually I was going to take a brief second just to say in light of these rankings changes, you know we do a lot of shows every year we record all year long and so we, we established these beginning rankings in the off season. But I want everyone to realize these things are going to change maybe drastically as the season approaches and we get into camp and we see these battles. You know, it's very easy to take DeAndre Washington and like Mike just said.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. In.

[Andy Holloway]

Late in, in the later part of drafts. Well, he might be in the middle of drafts pretty soon if things change and those are going to drastically change. That's one of the things that's nice about the rankings on the website or the UDK is that they are always changing. But we are not afraid to make the change is the point. We're not necessarily going to, you know, die on a hill for a guy that we've put high in our rankings in the middle of May just because that's where they're at. We want to react and be smart.

[Mike Wright]

Win.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, God.

[Mike Wright]

It's gotta be my.

[Andy Holloway]

Shouldn't have picked that.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so what quarterbacks are left here?

[Andy Holloway]

There are no quarterbacks. They're all gone.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, okay. Well, then let's go with a running back.

[Andy Holloway]

They're practically gone.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you are, like, madly in love with Matthew Stafford.

[Andy Holloway]

I see his name and he's by far my favorite guy on the board.

[Mike Wright]

Now, to me, because, like I said, so I'm drafting. I'm probably going. I'm going to go QBQB here.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

This is our short wait. So the. I would say that the two preferred guys I would want here would be Cousins. Is one of them Kirk Cousins? I still believe Kirk Cousins. And then a Stafford or Ryan would be the My two and I. But I don't know. I don't know who to pick first on who's more likely to make it back.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say this, even though I'm sad that we didn't get Tony Romo in the round before having Gurley McCoy, A.J. green, and Mike Evans. And then if you told me Stafford and Ryan, see, I'm okay with that. If you told me I had to have Winston and. And Ryan or Winston and Fitzpatrick, then I'm really. I'm dancing on this risk line on both guys that I wouldn't feel comfortable about. It's not like I'm going to be able to go to the waiver wire and snag somebody viable. These guys are all going to be gone at the end of a two quarterback. I feel like, well, Stafford has a track record. Ryan, those guys are probably going to start 16 games.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And so if we ended up with Stafford and Ryan, I think I'd be happy that you guys pushed me to wait.

[Jason Moore]

Stafford and Ryan are the two guys that I prefer out of this list. Kirk Cousins would be next. So I would say we draft Matthew Stafford first.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so let's do it. We drafted Stafford and Tannehill and Mariota went off the board, but Matt Ryan and Kirk Cousins are still there. Just to give you the other names. Golden Tate, Kelvin Benjamin, Thomas Rawls in the sixth round of this draft.

[Jason Moore]

Whoo.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy Macklin.

[Mike Wright]

That's good value. That's good value right there.

[Andy Holloway]

On Rawls.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, on him and Matt.

[Andy Holloway]

I got offered A Thomas Rawls trade in our keeper league the other day.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, why don't you tell the listeners what it was, please, they want to know.

[Andy Holloway]

I was offered the 21st and 49th.

[Jason Moore]

Pick for Thomas Rawls and that's a quick turn down.

[Andy Holloway]

I said no.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's a pretty easy turn down for me.

[Jason Moore]

Turn down for what?

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so our second quarter, like how.

[Andy Holloway]

Revealing things to the, to the listener has become. Like, like there's no need. There's no. I guess, I guess it helps. I guess it helps.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, let's just go with that.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Greg Olson's on the board, so.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you thinking about going crazy and.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, look, Stafford is there. I like, if you told me my quarterback two was Ryan, Cousins, Fitzpatrick, I would be okay with those three guys. That is it, though. If all those go off the board in our long wait, I'm going to be very sad to be drafting Joe Flacco or Jay Cutler.

[Jason Moore]

I completely agree with that, which is why we have to take one of these guys now. You play the draft and you look at your position, you know, we were just a couple picks away from our next pick, but now we're, you know, we're 18 guys away from our next pick or however many it is. And so we've got to draft one of those guys. The question is Kirk Cousins or Matt Ryan. They're back to back in our rankings. They're in the same tier.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm okay with either guy. I'm trying not to think of Cousins like a risk because I don't think he's as much of an actual risk as he seems. In my head, the way I look at a two quarterback draft where you wait is these quarterbacks need to at least get you. They can't get you these zero weeks, they can't get you these dead weeks. They need to get you a baseline with upside so that the rest of your lineup that you've capitalized on, all those early picks can make up the points for you. And that's the Gurley, McCoy, Green and.

[Mike Wright]

Evans if you want a baseline. I believe that Kirk Cousins was the only quarterback to throw at least one touchdown in every single game last year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but he was super hot and cold. He had terrible. He might have thrown.

[Mike Wright]

Just saying you want a baseline.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the baseline is what Jason said, not what you're saying a baseline is. You don't get hot and cold games. It's not throwing one. A baseline is not one touchdown. That is more like the Teddy Bridgewater universe. Like, I don't want the Teddy Bridgewater universe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think the baseline here would be Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

I vote Matt Ryan as well.

[Jason Moore]

You know that he's going to play 16 games barring injury, whereas Kirk Cousins. I mean, I expect he will, but they still haven't signed him to a contract and there's no movement in that negotiation. So you want to take the guy that's a little bit more sure in the, in the way that we've drafted here.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so we took Matt Ryan by way of majority rules and Mike, I'm sorry, Kirk, two picks later.

[Mike Wright]

That's. That's fine. I'm more sad of.

[Andy Holloway]

So we Bernard going off at the.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that would have been 9th pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Of the 7th year.

[Mike Wright]

I love Geo this year with fantasy draft wizard. You know, because we're going real quick. I would have loved to at that spot break down every single person's roster, see what the chances of a quarterback falling through or not because only two quarterbacks went in that huge run. So if we were able to wait there, that would have been great. And then grabbed.

[Andy Holloway]

If we had grabbed Fitzpatrick now and been able to take one of those other players, you know, in hindsight I agree with you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, that's a very good point. And if Marco Murray was on the board, I think he would have been very valuable at that point.

[Mike Wright]

And the last, the last couple guys.

[Andy Holloway]

That could have taken Olson too were.

[Mike Wright]

Gio, Bernard Moncrief and Ryan Matthews. All, all three guys who I would have loved to have taken there. But still on the board, we're looking at Duke Johnson, PPR machine. Duke Johnson is still there as well as a John Brown and Tyler Lockett. Those are guys who I'm considering.

[Jason Moore]

Let's review our lineup here just so that we know. So we've got the two quarterbacks filled with Matt Stafford and Matt Ryan and then our two running backs, Todd Gurley, LaShawn McCoy. Our two wide receivers, A.J. green, Mike Evans. That's a really solid team. I love it. And it's built in a way that we really take best available here. You know, we don't need a wide receiver, we don't need a running back quarterback. You if with the type of quarterbacks we have, we're going to want to draft at least a third quarterback so that we can, you know, play the matchups. So really who's the best guy on the board?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, let's that let me tell the listeners who's on the board at running back other than Duke Johnson. There's Jonathan Stewart, Matt Jones, Jeremy Langford, Frank Gore, Melvin Gordon, TJ Yeldin, Amir Abdullah. So you have a number of starters there that all have scars, I think, and all have some upside. Johnson is obviously the, the PPR option, but I'm still, you know, you have the Cleveland offensive change. Josh McCown, probably not the quarterback like he was during parts of last year. I'm not sure where I lean on this one. I really am not. And at wide receiver, Devonte Parker, John Brown, Michael Crabtree, Tyler Lockett, Kevin White is there.

[Mike Wright]

And you know what I do when I'm in a draft and I. These lulls, these happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Where you're looking at the board like, I just don't know. I find the guy who I love and I think has monster upside. And that to me would be Tyler Lockett.

[Andy Holloway]

Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

It would not be Tyler Lockett for me. I know we just disagree a little bit on this. I think he is talented. I like the offense, but I don't think that he's going to produce the level that would.

[Mike Wright]

But I'm saying, what do you, what do you think of that strategy at the point?

[Jason Moore]

I agree with that strategy. I'm going for high upside here. I'm going for a guy we're deep enough in the draft, we've got a solid enough roster. I'm going for a guy who could finish as a monster top end guy. I just don't believe that's Lockett. I think there's two guys on the board that could finish as a really, really top end guy at their position. And that would be the question marks of Matt Jones and Jeremy Langford.

[Andy Holloway]

It's funny because I would say Melvin Gordon's in that category.

[Mike Wright]

No, they.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

He caught some passes last year. He should be the guy. It's a, it's. It's a matter of. Basically we're picking our guy for upside here. It could be Lockett for upside. It could be Gordon. It could be Jones or Langford.

[Jason Moore]

I think I tell you what our UDP says.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, tell us what the consensus is.

[Jason Moore]

Our consensus rankings and it's not very close. I guess technically Langford is in the same tier, but Matt Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was going to say, is.

[Jason Moore]

Our 18th running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He's a better pick here than.

[Jason Moore]

The only worry I have with Matt Jones at all, to be quite honest, at this point, if I'm drafting today is Arian Foster. If Aaron Foster doesn't come, Matt Jones is almost a guaranteed lock for 250 carries by necessity and catching passes. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So before you click the draft button real quick, what are the tight ends that are available?

[Jason Moore]

That's a very good point.

[Andy Holloway]

Travis Kelsey, Delaney Walker, Kobe Fleener, Tyler Eifert and Barnes and Barnage.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so are you willing to push that and take Matt Jones?

[Jason Moore]

I am. Just because I liked a lot of the guys you just named. I assume then, Eric, we are going.

[Andy Holloway]

To circle back very quickly.

[Jason Moore]

So I would love to get Matt.

[Andy Holloway]

Jones and I think we can end up with Kobe Fleener. I think we could do both of.

[Jason Moore]

Those Beautiful for me.

[Andy Holloway]

So let's go ahead and let's take Matt Jones for Mike and then let's circle back around here and take Kobe Fleener.

[Mike Wright]

We did it, America.

[Jason Moore]

He is still available.

[Andy Holloway]

We got Kobe Fleener and Matt Jones with those two picks. Now you have a number. The tight end run has begun. All the tight ends just flew off the board after we took Kobe Fleener. You had Tyler Ifert, LA Darius Green, Jerry, Gary Barnage, Antonio Gates, Julius Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

Now, in that giant run of picks there, there was only one quarterback taken. So I think it's worth at least looking. But a lot of the guys that we wanted last round. So, you know, you want a Tyler Lockett. Mike Tyler Lockett still on the board here. And at this point, two picks later, I think this is where he could be a value.

[Andy Holloway]

Every team has a quarterback one and quarterback two at this point.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

In the league. So there's nobody else that is searching for that quarterback too yet.

[Jason Moore]

But the question and when you're on the board at this point, the question is how many legitimate starting options are left.

[Andy Holloway]

I missed what you were saying. Were you saying to take Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Jason Moore]

I was saying to look at quarterbacks to see how many are left, just to know, okay, people aren't searching for that quarterback. But if there's only, you know, three or four starting quarterback options left, then we need to be aware of that. But I was saying that Tyler Lockett is still on the board here, which Mike wanted two picks ago.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And so there's Lock It.

[Andy Holloway]

There's Ryan Fitzpatrick, Alex Smith, Teddy Bridgewater and RG3. So there's almost nobody.

[Mike Wright]

The way I play it is I actually disagree the way I play it as I go lock it and I see if I can get Smith on the way back. I think Alex Smith is a great third quarterback for your team. He is a guy that.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he qualified in the Almost Nobody.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Alex Smith is a great pick.

[Mike Wright]

In the right matchups. Alex Smith. So.

[Jason Moore]

And I would say this, I would take Alex Smith over lock it here. Because there's very, very few options at quarterback. But if I look at the other wide receivers on the board, sure, I might like lock it best, but which I don't actually out of these guys, Marvin Jones, desean Jackson, Kevin White, Willie Snead, you guys are. Lockett goes there.

[Andy Holloway]

You would take Alex Smith over Ryan Fitzpatrick, though. I would not.

[Mike Wright]

No, I would take Fitzpatrick, but I.

[Andy Holloway]

Think we take Fitzpatrick here and then take the best available wide receiver option.

[Jason Moore]

If this was a real life draft that I was doing today, I wouldn't take Fitzpatrick genuinely because he's a free agent and it could be a waste of a pick if we're going to play the game where is a mock. I'm going to assume he's on the team, but the truth is, if he.

[Andy Holloway]

Was, the only reason he's here is because.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. Right. So this I think we have to.

[Andy Holloway]

That leads me towards Lockett.

[Jason Moore]

No, but did you hear the point?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We lose Tyler Lockett, there's so many good options.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so Alex Smith has been drafted. And for the listener, we did not lose Tyler Lockett. And so goodness, now we get to draft him because Mike and I will majority rules. You.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you can make.

[Andy Holloway]

So Alex Smith and Tyler Lockett off the board. So we have Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan at quarterback, Todd Gurley, LaShawn McCoy and Matt Jones at running back. A.J. green, Mike Evans and Tyler Lockett a wide receiver. Alex Smith is a backup quarterback and Kobe Fleener at tight end. You have to like what we have here.

[Jason Moore]

I love this roster. And I was going to speak to the Alex Smith pick. It's a really important pick and it looks really ugly. Like nobody wants Alex Smith. But the truth is.

[Andy Holloway]

The truth is Andy Reid does.

[Jason Moore]

You know, when you play quarterback, Alex.

[Andy Holloway]

Smith's like a saltine. That's his food equivalent.

[Mike Wright]

They are necessary.

[Jason Moore]

He goes with a lot of different meals.

[Andy Holloway]

He goes with a lot of things, but you need to, like, put something on it to make it palatable.

[Jason Moore]

Too much saltines by itself and you just got to dry mouth. That's all.

[Andy Holloway]

You just choke.

[Jason Moore]

So. But the important part here is that with quarterbacks, their matchup makes a huge difference. When we pick our streaming quarterback pick of the week, I mean, Alex Smith is oftentimes a guy we like. Matt Ryan is a guy we like. Stafford is a guy we like. And so we're going to be able to play the matchups here and actually put together a really good starting quarterback roster, even though we don't have Drew Brees that we could have taken in the first.

[Andy Holloway]

You might say that in a two quarterback league, having three like this in the middle rounds is the equivalent of the streaming quarterback strategy in a true quarterback leave because you're not going to be able to actually take it from waivers. But now you can play matchups with the rotation of three guys and not spend early picks on them. You end up with Gurley and McCoy and Green and Evans because you took multiples.

[Jason Moore]

Later, there will still be in the season a couple really important quarterback pickups. Just like Tyrod Taylor was, just like Kirk Cousins was. Those people, they come every single year. And Josh McCown will be on this team at some point.

[Mike Wright]

Remember 40 quarterbacks last year? 40 posted a top 12 week.

[Jason Moore]

That's such a ridiculous number. I can't even believe it. But it's true.

[Mike Wright]

So at this point in the draft for me, I'm looking to. I want to pad the running back depth a little bit. My man Torrey Smith, T. Smith is on the board, so I would really strongly consider him. But I know that we need running back depth.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so what is the option here? I think Chris Thompson would be very interesting because of our ownership of Matt Jones to ensure that position, to have a PPR option. If things don't go Jones way. I think he's interesting. I don't know if he's a better pick than Derek Henry or Jordan Howard or some of these other rookies like DeAndre Washington taking a flyer with him. You know, Washington could be the third down guy in Oakland. So where do you lean? Because I'm not. I'm in that situation again, Mike, where I'm staring at the board. You got Laquan Treadwell, you've got Tory Smith, Tavon Austin, who I'm pretty high on as a value.

[Jason Moore]

Read me our running backs again. I want to.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Jones, Todd Gurley and LaShawn McCoy. So we need a running back, but I just don't really know who to take.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Because they're all pretty much the same. You can go with super handcuffs, which won't do you much good for our, you know, if a starter goes down. Unless of course, it was Chris.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's just the ensemble of rookies. Jordan Howard, DeAndre Washington, Paul Perkins, Kenyon Drake, Wendell Smallwood, Devonte Booker, Derek Henry. Those are all the rookies we could.

[Jason Moore]

Handcuff with Arian Foster.

[Andy Holloway]

I won't make that mistake again if.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to take a running back here. And what about Darren Sprols? Do you even consider him?

[Jason Moore]

No. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So, Darren Sprouls.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather take one of those rookies. I just.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Like a Dion. If I'm taking a Rookie, I'm taking DeAndre Washington. And the other name I'll throw out there is Jerick McKinnon, who really came on strong in the passing game for Minnesota towards the end of the year. That could be.

[Andy Holloway]

I think McKinnon will absolutely be the passing game.

[Mike Wright]

We're in a PPR, so there's value there. Just. Just throwing it out.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, you finalize this for us so.

[Jason Moore]

We don't linger too long to finalize this pick. I agree that McKinnon could be good, but I'm going to go with DeAndre Washington. I said it last episode. I'm rising on him. Just in this situation. The reason I love Latavius Murray is not Latavius Murray. It's the situation. I promise. You promise, promise, promise that the Oakland Raiders, if you put their running back together, you know, and you put every single team's running back core together, Oakland Raiders will have a top 12 running back. I believe that fully.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that they will have a top eight running.

[Jason Moore]

Right. No, I'm just maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe better.

[Jason Moore]

And so there's really only two guys there, latavius Murray and DeAndre Washington, that are going to put that together.

[Andy Holloway]

Marcel Roy.

[Jason Moore]

Hello.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on.

[Jason Moore]

Good boy. So, yeah, I would. I would pick DeAndre Washington.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we got a couple picks left. We need to make these ones snappy. So I'm going to hand this one off to Mike. He's got some options here. Marcus Wheaton. Lacan Twadwell. Laquan Treadwell. Tavon Austin. Kamara Akin. Keep going, Josh. Dachshund.

[Mike Wright]

Keep going. Oh, you passed him. You. You intentionally passed my man.

[Andy Holloway]

Who's your man? I actually said his name out loud so I didn't pass him.

[Mike Wright]

I was waiting for Vincent Jackson so I could say, stop it.

[Andy Holloway]

You're gonna take Kamara Akin over Treadwell?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

If I'm taking wide receiver, that's what I'm taking.

[Jason Moore]

Name my wide receivers real quick. We got AJ Green, Mike Evans and Tyler Lockett. And Tyler Lockett. Okay. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So I would balance it out with a Kamar Aiken right here. That's what I would.

[Andy Holloway]

That is the pick. So we're going to take our. We need a defensive kicker and one more bench spot. And we are now in the 13th round. The ninth pick of the 13th round. You do have Blaine Gabbard on the board at quarterback, who Appears to be a starter. I wouldn't need a fourth. Tavon Austin is one of my value picks this year. He jumps off the board to me here. Unless you guys want to take another running back.

[Mike Wright]

I think I would take another running back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I lean that way as well.

[Andy Holloway]

So would you take another rookie shot or would you take a guy that's okay?

[Jason Moore]

So you would I like at the back end of a draft. Like people really get too high on rookies. But when you're talking about this point in the draft, rookies are great, you know, because this, this pick could be cut and I have no problem with that because waivers week one. I'm going to want to open up a couple roster spots.

[Andy Holloway]

But who has the chance to impress you in week week one or two that you're not going to cut? Is it Paul Perkins?

[Mike Wright]

I'd say the two guys that I'm looking at, not necessarily for week one, but guys who could have opportunities because they got older, older gentlemen playing in front of him. And that is Paul Perkins and that is Josh.

[Andy Holloway]

But are you going to hold those guys in your roster?

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the problem. I think looking at your last pick is Paul Perkins. You're going to drop him and I might.

[Mike Wright]

But who else are you going to pick up that you're not going to drop?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. CJ Spiller might show me that he has a third down role in week one.

[Jason Moore]

I'll tell you who, I'm going to throw a name out there that you'll both be surprised at. And I'm just saying if you want to take a flyer at a week one, hey, maybe he is actually the guy playing the role last year. Andy, you love Joy Bell because that role. I'm just saying Zach Zinner could end up being their first down type of guy, their goal line type of guy. If not him and we go rookie, then my vote would be for Wendell Smallwood because we don't know how that breakdown is going to go. There's not as many guys, you know New York, there's like 17 running backs. I'd rather go with a team like the Eagles that I don't feel like there's a lot of good options. I don't think Widow Smallwood is good though. That's my problem there.

[Mike Wright]

You think he's small good.

[Jason Moore]

I just don't think he's, he's, he's okay running routes to catch passes, but I don't like him as.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Jay. Well, who's. Who is not Taking a pick. Jason. Did we give Jason a pick? I don't remember.

[Andy Holloway]

We have given Jason a pick.

[Mike Wright]

All right, well, Andy, you take.

[Andy Holloway]

But I don't. I don't need to make one. I mean, I have no idea who to draft here.

[Jason Moore]

I'm drafting Arian Foster here then, because we're talking about a bunch of guys that are maybe. And garbage. I'm going to go ahead and take the guy that is going to sign on a team and is going to have some kind of value, who has always been a fantasy stud. And Andy, he's like your love affair.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I might as well just have Arian Foster on my team, right?

[Mike Wright]

He's good. Mojo.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so we'll finish up the draft with the Carolina Panthers defense and a random kicker named Adam Vinitari.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, that's not bad. I'll take him.

[Andy Holloway]

And so, just to give a rundown of the roster, here we have Matthew Stafford and Matt Ryan starting at quarterback. Todd Gurley. LaShawn McCoy starting at running back. Wide receivers of A.J. green and Mike Evans. Our tight end is Kobe Fleen. Our flex at the moment is a rotation of Matt Jones and Tyler Lockett and whomever else we decide to throw in there. And then we have Alex Smith on the bench to rotate in at quarterback, and Deandre Washington, Kamara Akin, Arian Foster on the roster.

[Mike Wright]

I love it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I love it. I would be super happy with this team going into a draft. And I was. I will say this, I was a little scared to bypass the quarterback at that point, but I think it worked out for us.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So I think that was very interesting. Did you guys. You guys have any final thoughts on the mock draft itself? Any. Any kind of summaries or things that you regretted?

[Mike Wright]

I don't have no raw grets, as the tattoo would say, but I think this can just show you can wait at least a little bit at the top of your draft. And maybe you can't. Maybe it just. In your two quarterback league, your first two rounds are just full of quarterbacks and you get hosed. But I'm just saying it's at least some proof that it's an option for you. So don't. Don't be. Don't be backed in the corner and feel scared like you have to do this.

[Andy Holloway]

All right?

[Mike Wright]

Draft a certain way.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to take a second and thank everybody that voted for us for the Academy of Podcasters Award.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

When we recorded this, we won't know the results of that. I mean, we will in real Life. But this show was recorded a little bit before the awards ceremony for in Chicago. So thank you to everybody who contributed again and voted for us on the Academy of podcasters [e-mail] we really appreciate your support. Thank you to Everybody from the Foot Clan [e-mail] that has given us feedback on new parts of the website and the new article section and those things. We appreciate your support of this podcast and if you want to help us out, you can go on itunes, you can leave us a review. If you enjoy the content, go on to YouTube, subscribe. You know, if you're a listener on the phone and that's how you normally listen, go on to YouTube, check out the video. You know, you'll see things like the studio, you'll see the different jerseys we put up here and kind of what takes place on a day to day basis and connect with us on social media and we just enjoy interacting with listeners and answering questions about your teams, helping you build kind of. You know, Jason alluded to this earlier, we are all about winning, but we are also about enjoying the process and enjoying your league and kind of what fantasy football does as a game for friendships and for family and for the social aspects of your life. That's why we started doing this podcast to begin with was okay, we were in these fun leagues together for 10 years where it was, you know, a core part of your day to day life where you're talking to people about picks and you're talking to people about keepers and you're mocking one another and all the things that are enjoyable.

[Jason Moore]

Talk about keeping friendships alive that might not, I mean, people that you love from back in the day, if you're in, you know, in school now and you're making these relationships, I mean B Mcg shout out there, love that guy, but I don't know, without this league would we have stayed connected? So thank you, fantasy football.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, so, and as a final note here, we do want to remind everybody to head over to fantasyjocks.com, use the promo code Ballers. Ballers. And get some trophies, some rings, things like that.

[Jason Moore]

So, oh yeah, it is Ballers. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter. Twitter at theffballers.