
Fantasy Football Podcast for November 15, 2016. Week 10 is in the books and it's time to turn our fantasy football attention to the waiver wire. What do Andy and Jason think about Kenneth Dixon, James Starks, Cameron Brate and many other big waiver wire
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Andy Holloway
Hey, everyone. Before we start today's show, we want to remind you all about the Megalodon episode coming up. And in celebration for our Megalodon episode next week, we're having a Megalodon giveaway for free. Just go to footclangiveaway.com and enter for free. We're giving away, like, tons of stuff. David Johnson, signed jerseys, Carlos Hyde gifts, certificates to shop ballers. So go to FootClangiveAway.com right now.
Eric Dickerson
Hi, this is Eric Dickinson, NFL hall of Famer, and you're listening to the fantasy footballers Podcast.
Andy Holloway
Welcome to the fantasy footballers Podcast coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Well, two of us are here.
Andy Holloway
The Verified Two.
Jason Moore
The Verified duo.
Andy Holloway
You know what? You almost had our first ever solo show. Are you aware of this?
Jason Moore
What do you mean? I almost had to do the show by myself.
Andy Holloway
Had to do the show by yourself.
Jason Moore
I'm not. How would I be aware of this? I didn't know.
Andy Holloway
I almost jumped off a bridge last night.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Andy Holloway
I was so angry.
Jason Moore
Somebody on fantasy football. Tilt.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man. I quit. I quit. Fantasy football. All really?
Jason Moore
That's amazing, because our. Our quick question kind of has to do with that.
Andy Holloway
Well, all right.
Jason Moore
So you. You. You almost jumped off a bridge.
Andy Holloway
Well.
Jason Moore
And I would have been the last Verified member alive.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, it's really more of a joke because there are no bridges in Arizona because there are no bodies of water to put a bridge over.
Jason Moore
Right. You could have jumped off a mesa.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Jason Moore
Well, welcome to. That's a great start. Welcome to the show. Tuesday, November 15th. We are the fantasy footballers, or 2/3 of us at least. Mike is out of town this week, and so Andy and Jason taking care of business. If you want to follow our very, very, very verified accounts on Twitter, you can do so at Andy Holloway, at Jason FFL. The show is at the FFballers. And that Mike guy is at FF Hitman.
Andy Holloway
We don't know if it's him.
Jason Moore
The Verified, it's taken on a life of its own. It's permeated our itunes reviews. It's every other notification on Twitter. Everybody loves taking shots at Mike. I mean, it is just so much fun to take shots at the unverified one.
Andy Holloway
I love. I love our listeners. They see a glimmer of something they can take advantage of and they hop on it.
Jason Moore
That's important.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
All right. We have Eric Dickerson on the show today.
Andy Holloway
We sure do. A lot of good comments that he has good insight I really look forward to that.
Jason Moore
You will find out whether or not he believes Ezekiel Elliott will break his rookie rushing record.
Andy Holloway
Put him on the spot.
Jason Moore
We did. And so you will hear that interview later on in the show. This is the Tuesday show, which means we're talking waiver wire pickups. Jason is angry.
Andy Holloway
You darn right, yeah.
Jason Moore
And so here's the quick question of the day. If your team is not making the playoffs, this came in off of Twitter at Keith Justice. I hope that's his last name. I really do. And I hope he's a sergeant.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
He in the police.
Andy Holloway
He better be wearing a cowboy hat. Keith justice at all times.
Jason Moore
Sheriff, if your team is not making the playoffs, what is your motivation for the rest of the season? We're at the point now where, hey, look, I've got a league where I'm 2 and 8. I do. I have a league where I'm 2 and 8, and it's not cool. So what's my motivation rest of the season? What is your motivation rest of the season? If you're in a league like that? Especially if you're in, like, a redraft.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Where it's not a keeper, not a dynasty league. This is actually a great question, and I think there is a great answer to this question that I learned a long time ago, before we were professional fantasy football analysts, when I was a casual fan first starting out.
Jason Moore
Used to be a grammar teacher, right? Used to teach at grammar school.
Eric Dickerson
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
That's all I did. All I did. I learned people how to talk.
Jason Moore
How good were you at that?
Andy Holloway
I was so good at it that I said, here's how you're gonna speak. Well, for good.
Jason Moore
Yeah. That was your old motto as a teacher. All right, continue.
Andy Holloway
That made me want to.
Jason Moore
Because teachers have mottos. That's what they do.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. But what I learned was every year when I was a casual fan, I would do all right. I would draft a pretty good team because I would, you know, pay a lot of attention during the draft. And as the year went on, my willingness to pay attention and listen to everything kind of waned. And I wasn't as good at the end of the season, every single year in those first few years, because I didn't pay enough attention, as soon as I started to kind of be off, my interest waned. And what happened to really change it for me was once I continued to pay attention, if I was out of the playoffs, once I continued to pay attention and followed the game, it made me so much better for future years to know what happens the second half of the year, because fantasy things change and you've got to pay attention to how, how, how the second half is so different than the first half, and you can't do that without having experienced it before. So if you're out of the playoffs, keep listening. And I would say even more so than. Than the rest of this year, the off season where we're still doing a couple shows a week, even when it's, you know, when football's.
Jason Moore
And those are fun shows. Those are great.
Andy Holloway
Those are so fun. Just, you know, a lot of entertainment. However, they're really important to keep up with the trends and the little nuances of what coaching changes are happening, what, what player changes are happening, directions, where teams are going, good vibes, bad vibes. They help you win in fantasy football.
Jason Moore
In subsequent seasons and beyond that, disrupting the playoff hopes of my friend Jason would only bring me great joy. So that is my goal. I know we face off head to head very soon. Even though I'm out of the mix in that league, I will do everything I can to defeat you.
Andy Holloway
I should have locked my playoffs up last night. I'm so angry.
Jason Moore
You did come in quite angry. Let's talk briefly about last night's game. Then you had Eli Manning, three touchdown passes, one to Beckham, one to shepherd, one to Adams. And then you had Andy Dalton on the other side. They just. There wasn't a sense of urgency on that team. I couldn't believe they didn't give themselves another opportunity to win that game. Really, you know, what can you say? I mean, IFRT 96 yards, the majority of it on the 71 yard gain. A.J. green's. A.J. green, he was great.
Andy Holloway
But they look like they were having major offensive line issues, both running the ball and passing the ball, especially at the end of the game when they needed something to happen. They just, every time they snapped the ball, when it was a passing play, Andy Dalton, that pocket collapsed in around him. And that last drive where it was like three, three in a row, where he just got one of those plays was. Was really incredible there. His entire offensive line just sandwiched him as they were compacted like they were in a trash compactor. And what can you do as a quarterback when. When you snap the ball and you've got six guys in your face?
Jason Moore
Paul Perkins, Rashad Jennings. Jennings had 15 for 87, the best he looked all year. Couple of important runs. Does this put to bed the Perkins hype for a couple weeks?
Andy Holloway
No, I don't think it does. Because if you watch the entire game. What you saw is that they used Jennings when it was time to run the clock out. I don't know if that was because of fumbling fears of rookies in general, but before that point, before it was time to run the ball, run the game out, Jennings and Perkins kind of had split usage. Perkins looked every bit as good, if not better than Jennings. And Jennings actually had a pretty darn lousy game. And then he was able to get I think like a 24 yard run at the end in the. I mean, he looked good finally, but I just don't think that that was. You look at the box score and you go, okay, they decided on Jennings. That wasn't how I felt watching the game.
Jason Moore
I will say one other observation I made of the game was that Will Tai was heavily involved. He had a bad drop. He also had an end zone target where there's some miscommunication, but he still was 5 for 53. Larry Danelle is not on the field. This is Will Tye's opportunity. He's somebody that, you know, look, there are a lot of tight end options out there. There are a lot of guys that are, you know, they're meh. So I think Ty is somebody you could consider because to me, he looked like the second target behind Beckham in this game for sure. So. All right, we'll move on into the news. A reminder again, head over to foot clangiveaway.com giving away a ton of autographed gear, some gift cards. Just our way of saying thanks for supporting the show this season. The megalodon giveaway@footclangiveaway.com and a reminder, join our fantasy community@jointhefoot.com if you want to get involved with that year round community. We're over there. We're having fun. And let's get into the news.
Andy Holloway
News and notes from around the league.
Jason Moore
Sometimes, Jason, I don't know if you feel this. The weight of being verified. It's just a heavy weight on the back because you have to carry Mike. You know what I mean?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And he's not a light guy.
Andy Holloway
No. He's been putting on some weight.
Jason Moore
He's been putting on a lot.
Andy Holloway
He's been using the Jason Moore diet.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Do you think it has to do with his verification issues?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, depression is a. Is a big reason for weight gain, so certainly. Sorry, Mike.
Jason Moore
Okay. All right. Adam Schefter reports that Rob Gronkowski has a chest injury, not a punctured lung as was originally reported. And that it is not considered overly serious, however, could miss a week, could miss two weeks, probably a week.
Andy Holloway
Anytime you miss a game with a superstar, that's a serious injury for your fantasy team. You know, he's going to be out at least this week, and I wouldn't be shocked if it turned into two. So you got to have other options. We just talked about Will Tye, and we'll talk about some other tight ends on this waiver show. Pick, pick one up.
Jason Moore
Big news yesterday, Alshon Jeffrey suspended four games for performance enhancing drugs that I think, like, maybe they were expired. The bottle was expired. The performance enhancing part didn't seem to really. I mean, he didn't get hurt. He said to his credit, he took responsibility. He said he took an inflammation supplement, but he, you know, it's his fault and now he's out.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's not good for your contract year, Alshon. It's also not good for fantasy football. You can't trust. I mean, obviously we couldn't trust Jay Cutler with Alshon. You certainly can't without him. The only beneficiary of this. I mean, you could argue, okay, Cameron Meredith, maybe he's worth a look. Eddie Royal, maybe.
Jason Moore
I think a lot of people are going to want us to or expect us to say in the wide receiver segment today, go get Cam Meredith.
Andy Holloway
And I, you know, I don't, I don't ascribe to that. There are other wide receivers I would rather have. I think the biggest bump here is probably for Zach Miller. He's a necessary target, a target that Jay Cutler has looked for so far. In Cameron Meredith's two games back with Jay Cutler, he's had one catch in both games, and that one catch this last game was a Hail Mary pass that was to Alshon Jeffrey that got tipped to Cameron Meredith.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So basically he locked into a target there. To me, if I'm taking a flyer on these guys, deeper league, ppr, whatever, I, I'd rather have Eddie Royal. He's got a longer track record with Jay Cutler going all the way back to his time in Denver. I think Royal's past target quant. You know, the targets are going to be higher for him. So if I was taking a shot at one of them, it would be Royal. But I think the cheapest guy, whichever guy's cheaper in your waiver wire, is the one I would take the chance on. I mean, what category are they in? Probably the Don Troll, Inman category. The, okay, you've got a shot to have a good game, but when, what game is that going to be.
Andy Holloway
I think that's fair.
Jason Moore
Todd Bowles declined to name a starting quarterback. Hooray. Hurrah. Brandon Marshall is running in the streets screaming.
Andy Holloway
I mean, you know what, I'm a little, this is a mess. So I've had Brandon Marshall on my team for several weeks because I traded Larry Fitzgerald to get him. That's worked out well. No bitterness here.
Jason Moore
No, none.
Andy Holloway
But I'm really happy he's on by this week.
Jason Moore
So you don't have to start him without guilt.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, exactly. Now I can just go ahead and put someone else in that will produce. Oh.
Jason Moore
So we're going to talk with Eric Dickerson coming up after our waiver segment. Talk about a number of the young running backs, their short term and long term outlooks. So very good conversation coming up. So stay tuned for that. Right now. It's time to talk waivers.
Andy Holloway
Let me in, coach.
Jason Moore
All right, a reminder for everybody. Week 11 Bye weeks, Atlanta, Denver, New York, in San Diego, San Diego. So you know, Matt Ryan, owners, you're gonna have to find another option, stream a different quarterback. I've been asked that question a couple times this morning on the radio. Who do I start? Who do I stream? We're going to get into that, our full stream Ahead segment on the show today. What position do you want to start at with waivers?
Andy Holloway
Jason, let's start with kickers. I make a joke, but I will say this pro tip, and you know, we've said this in the past, but a lot of times when you have these waiver weeks, look, if you've got a burnable bench spot, look for Matt Bryant to hit the waivers as some people are just going to have to drop them. He's been a great kicker that's made a defense and I think that those are sometimes worth picking up.
Jason Moore
I know you spend a lot of time on kick.
Andy Holloway
Oh gosh, so much.
Jason Moore
All right, let's start at the most important position in fantasy football and that's not kicker, that's running back. So let's talk about the running back options that are out there because look, this is a position where regardless of what you have starting on your fantasy team, you need depth, you need flexibility, you need somebody that can provide an insurance policy during your playoff run. So to you, who is the number one waiver wire ad for the running back position?
Andy Holloway
The number one waiver wire ad for the running back position to me is going to be Rob Kelly from the Washington Redskins. There was a report coming out, I believe this morning talking about how Matt Jones might Be another healthy scratch. I don't see why you wouldn't have Matt Jones be a healthy scratch. He doesn't help out in special teams and he isn't as good. You know, so far from what you've seen, proof is in the pudding as Rob Kelly. Rob Kelly almost got 100 yards against the Minnesota Vikings. He looks good on 100 carries. He's only lost yardage on two of them. He looked great in preseason. He's already broken more tackles than Matt Jones has on the year. And, and I think he takes a hold of a starting running back role going forward. And there's just not the only other person that's out there possibly on the waivers. Actually, he's, he's available in more waivers, but the only other guy that I see who could take that stranglehold rest of season starting from this current week is James Starks.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, I think Rob Kelly's a good pick, but I think he's a 50, 50 chance that he's on your waiver wire right now.
Andy Holloway
Correct.
Jason Moore
And so if you're looking at somebody more available, James Starks is at the 30% mark. I think, you know, look, he came out first game back, scored a touchdown. He'll be targeted a little bit in the passing game. He only had seven carries. But I think he is one of the top guys this week. I think the reaction that a lot of people are going to have is, hey, do I spend a lot of my fab dollars on CJ Pro size?
Andy Holloway
No.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean that's your take is. No, my take is maybe my take is he might be if he's the best guy available on your waiver wire. I think he's going to be involved rest of season. He had 153 total yards against New England. I am definitely in the camp that thinks Thomas Rawls comes back this week and is the first and second down back very soon for sure. But pro size, you know, if Rawls is re injured, process is probably the guy. Even if he's not re injured, he's on the out going to be out there on third down. That might be enough.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, Pete Carroll was talking about, you know, the matchup this week. It's good matchup for running backs. He was talking about his running backs and he talked about Thomas Rawls, he talked about C.J. prosise. He didn't even mention Christian Michael. So it is a two man. I agree that Process is going to be utilized and in the Chris Thompson style. Exactly. And that's where I say I wouldn't spend too much money on him. I wouldn't do it for Chris Thompson. He's worth owning, worth having. I think you can start him in a flex position on bye weeks and get points out of it. But it looks to me like, and I guess this means we should mention Thomas Rawls is still available in about 50% of leagues.
Jason Moore
It's crazy.
Andy Holloway
That's not a lot of leagues. You know, when it comes to more hardcore leagues, however, check sometimes I'm blown away. Sometimes in our leagues that are super competitive, I don't even check for guys, you know, and.
Jason Moore
Well, think about it. If you're not in a league that has an IR spot and you've gone through bipocalypses week after week, there are guys that are dropped because they have to be draft.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
So yeah, I think Thomas Rawls, you have to keep him in mind. The other names I want to throw out there for you, Jason, Kenneth Dixon, who is only owned in 10% of ESPN leagues, 20% of Yahoo leagues.
Andy Holloway
That's crazy to me.
Jason Moore
He has taken the cake as the is the best of that kind of.
Andy Holloway
Rookie crop that's fighting through The Paul Perkins, DeAndre Washington. Yep, yep.
Jason Moore
So I mean, Kenneth Dixon last week, seven targets, five catches, six for 38 on the ground. He also had like a 25 yard run called back.
Andy Holloway
He also has put him at 8.
Jason Moore
Yards of carry on the game.
Andy Holloway
He also has Terrence west ahead of him who has looked atrocious the last two games.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he's more of a Terence south right now because he's going backwards against the offensive line.
Andy Holloway
I think Kenneth Dixon would have been even more involved in the running game this last week if it wasn't for the slight injury concern they had with him. We saw him missing a few practices that week.
Jason Moore
He was banged up.
Andy Holloway
And so I think going forward, Kenneth Dixon is certainly a guy to have. If he's, you know, these other guys, they're already owned. I would, I would spend a first waiver claim position on Kenneth Dixon personally.
Jason Moore
So does that make him the most your kind of number one pickup if Rob Kelly's not available?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, I would. Order.
Jason Moore
Would you take Dixon over Starks?
Andy Holloway
I guess I would. I would go Rob Kelly, James Starks, Kenneth Dixon.
Jason Moore
All right, two other names that people want to know about. Jeremy Langford. If Jordan Howard was to miss time, is Langford worth owning?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, I think he is worth owning because you're going to have a starting running back for at least a week and you View him over carry. I do. I think Jeremy Langford will have the role over Kadeem Carey. There's no reason now that Linkford is healthy. I mean, we saw, in the beginning of the year, we saw all of them healthy. We saw Kadeem Carey healthy and Jeremy Langford healthy at one point. And Jeremy Langford was the guy. So I don't see why that would change now. And he was productive for Fantasy enough where I think if you need to start him, you could certainly do worse than that.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
You only pay if you win.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
Absolutely.
Jason Moore
All right. Wide receiver pickups. We have a wide range of guys here that are in ownership percentages. The one I want to throw out there, the two names really that I want to throw out there at the top. And I realized that, you know, the first name might not be available in your league, but he is available in 40% right now. Steve Smith, senior.
Andy Holloway
Senior.
Jason Moore
He was 5 for 16, a touchdown last week. The first week back from the injury, he was back at 85%. Snap count. He scored this past week. Joe Flacco loves this guy. And why not? I mean, he's a gamer. He fights for every ball. Steve Smith, if he's available to me, he's a two. Already.
Andy Holloway
I was going to say.
Jason Moore
I mean, he really is.
Andy Holloway
See, to me, he is an absolute 2. As in the way that I look at Steve Smith is. He is. He's basically almost a wide receiver one. If he's not a wide receiver one in most weeks, then he will be a two. And that's the lowest he will go. He is so reliable and consistent. And you can't usually find these guys on waivers. So it is worth mentioning, if he's.
Jason Moore
Not there, he's probably not there. But who are you looking at now?
Andy Holloway
You know, it depends on kind of what I need for a team. Do I need a play this week or am I looking at a longer term, you know, good option? Because to me, there's different options there. So if I need a play this week, and I'm saying, yeah, give me.
Jason Moore
Your best this week play on the waiver wire.
Andy Holloway
My best this week play, I think I'm going to stay in the Flames right now with Rashard Matthews. He's got a great matchup against Indianapolis. He. He's got, like, you know, six touchdowns in the last six games, four in the last three. He has become. And I've always said this, I've said this for the last two years. I think Rashard Matthews is a really good wide receiver.
Jason Moore
You have, you have. You have continued to say that over and over again in spite of me.
Andy Holloway
The problem is that he doesn't get enough targets, and he still doesn't. Right. I'm not, I'm not, you know, banking on him the way I'm banking on Steve Smith, because he's still getting it done with like, okay, he caught three balls, but he got a touchdown. And that being said, he has been on fire. And when I say on fire since week four, since week four, he is the number five wide receiver.
Jason Moore
That's like Doug Baldwin, second half.
Andy Holloway
That's number. Exactly right. So I'm going to stay in the Flames. I'm going to throw him out there.
Jason Moore
Against six touchdowns in the last six weeks, I think.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's right.
Jason Moore
Listen to the. You know, we talked to the beginning of the year and it, and it came to fruition. The first few weeks, you couldn't own a wide receiver for Tennessee because they couldn't score enough points. Listen to the last five weeks or six weeks of them. This is the points that they've scored. They've won, by the way. Four of six weeks. They won with 30 points. They won with 28 points. They lost with 26 points. They won with 36 points. They lost with 35 points. They just won with 47 points.
Andy Holloway
That's a nice.
Jason Moore
That's very nice.
Andy Holloway
I like it.
Jason Moore
So I'm with you on that. I think at this point, he's a stay in the flame circumstance. Other names I want to throw out there. Two guys that are on by this week. You talk about the opposite of that this week play. These are guys to pay attention to. They may get dropped this week. They may, you know, in. In one of their cases, they are on waivers. Tyrell Williams, he may get dropped. He's only 70% owned right now, but people may drop him for the start.
Andy Holloway
If he's dropped, pick him up.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean he was 5 for 125 and a touchdown. Again, he seems to be that number one guy. Especially with Benjamin out.
Andy Holloway
I'm not confident that Benjamin's getting back.
Jason Moore
Yeah, yeah.
Andy Holloway
I'm not saying he's going to be done, but if he, if he doesn't play another snap this year, I'm not going to be surprised.
Jason Moore
And then, you know, you can't ignore three straight snaps, 16 point games and half point leagues for Taylor Gabriel. You know, Matt Ryan is on fire this year.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, their offense looks great, but he's.
Jason Moore
A very kind of Marquis Goodwin plus type of play. You're hoping for the big play, but he can fly. And then Eli Rogers the last two weeks has 10 catches. He plays Cleveland this week 20% owned.
Andy Holloway
Eli Rogers is a nice mixture of both.
Jason Moore
To me, I'd rather have Tyreek Hill than almost all these guys.
Andy Holloway
Really? Yeah.
Jason Moore
Because Tyree kills only 10% owned. He takes on Tampa Bay this week. He just caught 10 passes in this last matchup and he's been flashing all year long. He's probably their best wide receiver, tyreek, and he's 10 for 89 this past week. To me, I would pick up Tyree Kill as a play this week and be very fine starting him.
Andy Holloway
What if Jeremy. I assume Jeremy Macklin is going to play this week.
Jason Moore
I think there's enough to go around against Tampa. I do.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, you might be right. I mean, Tyree killed.
Jason Moore
Tyree Kill this year.
Andy Holloway
Tyree Kill is very talented. What he's flashed both in special teams and as a wide receiver, has been electric. He is worth a play against Tampa Bay. But you know, in their offensive system that does not usually produce a lot of fantasy relevance from the wide receiver position. If Jeremy Macklin is back. I just don't know that I can trust a start with Tyree Kill. I don't think there will be enough to go around personally.
Jason Moore
Yeah, and I Eli Rodgers. But Tyree Kill gets one to two carries a week too. That's the nice thing about Tyree Kill.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. One to two.
Jason Moore
Yeah. It's more than zero.
Andy Holloway
It sure is.
Jason Moore
But it's.
Andy Holloway
But it's less than three.
Jason Moore
All right. Double digits in three out of the last four. So I'm happy about that. All right. And then some other. You know, we talked about Meredith and Royal earlier in the show. Both guys are probably available in your league. You know what, you can take out a really, really Dirty, grimy coin, which it comes from being a Bears fan, and just flip that coin and pick your favorite guy.
Andy Holloway
Let me give you.
Jason Moore
I'm not going to pretend to say that I think Royals is going to dominate Meredith. I think both those guys have some value though.
Andy Holloway
Meredith is, has the better body size, you know, the better.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, he's a prototypical outside wide receiver. Right, but Royal's the target guy.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, exactly. And then, and then Royal, you've seen with Jay Cutler, he has had a relationship where he's locked on him in the past. So you, you have reasons to believe in both. You have reasons to avoid both. Meh.
Jason Moore
Yeah. All right, tight ends, let's talk about some tight ends. We're always talking about tight ends because you don't know who to throw out there from week to week if you don't have one of the premier guys. Before we get into the waiver, the three names that I have in mind, let's talk about Vernon Davis for a second.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Because Vernon Davis is out there in almost all leagues and the thing about him is he's produced double digit fantasy numbers for three straight weeks as the quote unquote, second. Yeah, maybe four straight weeks, the quote unquote second tight end on that team. So how confident are you enrolling out Vernon Davies and staying in the Flames with him?
Andy Holloway
Man, I am, I am afraid to do it. I don't buy in. But I think that I might, full disclosure, I think I might have blinders.
Jason Moore
On because he's currently the 18th ranked tight end on the year in the last four straight weeks with double digits.
Andy Holloway
In the last month of games. The last actually a little bit longer than that because they had a bye week in there. Right. Their last four games he has not had less than 50 yards for a tight end. That's, that's great. He's had 50, 70, 93 and 66. Plus he's added two touchdowns in that stretch. Now, some of those games were without Jordan Reed, some of them have been with Jordan Reed. Jordan Reed being back is why I don't really trust the second tight end. It can happen and I think he will have several good games left, but I just don't think I can trust him week in, week out. Now this matchup against Green Bay this coming week, you know, leans me more to the side of I think maybe we can trust him if you got to put up a lot of points, especially, you know, if desean Jackson is, is not in there. Oh, let me just throw this out as well. Because another one of those, we normally try to go a little deeper, but if for some reason Jameson Crowder is a wide receiver that's on your waivers, that's ridiculous. And pick him up.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Two tight ends that are mentioned in that same category probably owned, but not owned. In about 25% of leagues, Martella's Bennett and Zach Miller are the two top pickups. If they were somehow available with Gronk potentially missing a week, Bennett would be the guy against San Francisco. Zach Miller, 69% owned, and he may receive more targets with Jeffrey out. The three tight end names I'm going to bring up now are Cameron Brait, ladarius Green, and C.J. fedorowicz. Okay. These guys are probably available in your league. Brait is the most heavily owned, so he may not be. Who do you like most of that bunch?
Andy Holloway
Of that bunch? It's definitely Cameron Brait. We've seen him utilized throughout the season, unfortunately, you know, he's had some weeks where I think people started to buy in, and that was the week where he didn't perform. So he's left kind of that, you know, bad taste in their mouth taste. But he has scored in the last three games. The last two weeks, he's had five and seven receptions. Those are great numbers for a tight end. I feel like you can really rely on him. He's been utilized more and more in the passing game, and he's talented.
Jason Moore
Let me put you on the spot.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Jason Moore
You have to choose the tight end rest of season between Cameron Brait and Travis Kelsey. Oh, and we've talked a lot about Brait's. Not Brait, but the Tampa Bay schedule. You know, getting to face New Orleans twice in the playoffs. Kelsey's last five weeks, 4, 3, 19, 8 and 6 braids. Last four weeks, 4, 8, 12, 18.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, I get the temptation there, but I'm certainly still sticking with Travis Kelsey.
Jason Moore
Okay. I just wanted to ask.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, the talent, the size, what we've seen before. I'm going to stick with him and his, you know, his playoff schedule. He does have Denver in week 16, that championship week, which, you know, is not probably as good as having New Orleans, but the tight ends have won against Denver in the past. So I'm going. Kelsey there.
Jason Moore
Okay. And then Ladarius Green, first week back, 3 for 30, gets to face Cleveland this week. I mean, he might be worth a cursory pickup to see what you have there. And if his role increases, I'd start him. All right.
Andy Holloway
He's playing against Cleveland. Cleveland at the tight end position has just. They're the worst in the league by a mile.
Jason Moore
And so I'd play him over Sammy Coates right now.
Andy Holloway
Just an obligatory shot to coach.
Jason Moore
This is an obligatory shot to Sammy Coates and his multi week goosers. CJ Fedorowicz, don't forget about him. He's fourth and fantasy points per tight end. I'm sorry, fantasy points per game for tight end since week four. Four before this last week where the touchdown went to Ryan Griffin. But it's normally been Fedorowicz, so you got to pay attention to him as a possible pickup. We're going to talk about quarterback streamers here in a second. I'll give you some defensive names first and then we'll talk to Eric Dickerson, hall of Fame running back for the. Formerly of the Los Angeles Rams and the Indianapolis Colts. So defenses to stream this week. Everybody needs a defense streamer. Jason, give me a couple names.
Andy Holloway
There's quite a few that I like this week. Just like last week with the Rams. You could play the Rams or the jets in the same game. I think you can play the.
Jason Moore
You mean the Rams or Miami?
Andy Holloway
No, last week you could play the Rams or the jets against each other. Both were good. I think very similar to that this week. The Rams or Miami in that same game. You've got two good defenses facing each other. I like both of those. I also like the Patriots defense against San Francisco. I know you might disagree on that one. You have.
Jason Moore
I think. I think that Kaepernick is. He meets everybody's needs. He meets the opposing defense's needs for mistakes and he meets the streaming quarterback needs for baseline. So I'm not opposed to that. I think you can dance with the devil with the Raiders defense.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Off the by, they're at home and they get Brock Osweiler.
Andy Holloway
He's so good, though. Andy.
Jason Moore
No, wait, I said Brock Osweiler.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I meant he's so tall.
Jason Moore
Yes, he's very.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, okay, I got that one wrong.
Jason Moore
Very tall. He can Top shelf stuff. He can get it down.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. If you.
Jason Moore
He can dust, you know, very high cabinets.
Andy Holloway
He's actually, honestly, really helpful if you were to wallpaper, because sometimes it's hard. You got to get like, I don't know, scaffolding or something. But no, he just reaches right up to the top.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Not good at football, though.
Jason Moore
No, not very good.
Andy Holloway
I saw a stat. I forget who posted. I wish I could give you credit. It was. It was on Twitter and it was over the last few weeks. Lamar Miller has a better yards per carry than Brock. Osweiler has yards per completion. That's ridiculous.
Jason Moore
That's insane.
Andy Holloway
That's absurd.
Jason Moore
Oh, my goodness. Steelers, they take on Cleveland. They're another streaming D. And then the Cowboys take on Baltimore. You could probably do worse than the Cowboys at the quarterback position.
Andy Holloway
We'll just throw out a few names before we give you our streamer options. And really, these are just guys that were on by Stafford and Carr. They're normally owned in all these leagues, but they were just on buy and were dropped by a lot of, you know, they're still about 20% of leagues now that they're available in because of that buy. They were owned in 100% of leagues before that. So make sure you check them out. They both have winnable matchups this week. Full stream ahead.
Jason Moore
All right. I was receiving a little bit of flack on Twitter for what I said about Colin Kaepernick, but what'd you say? Well, I mean, I think what came across was that I was somehow in love with him. But you heard it here.
Andy Holloway
Andy loves Colin Kaepernick. Twitter, let him know how much he loves him. All right, well, you don't love Colin Kaepernick anyways. Andy, who is your stream of the week this week?
Jason Moore
I'm going to go with Colin Kaepernick.
Andy Holloway
And he loves Kaepernick.
Jason Moore
He's at home against New England. New England is the 19th best defense against fantasy quarterbacks I've made my case for. Kaepernick is one of those guys due to his schedule at the end of the year that could be a streaming playoff quarterback. He has a couple of great playoff matchups. He's been running, running over 70 yards three of the last four games. You don't need him to do a whole lot through the air to get it done. And yet he had a 398 yard game. He had over 200 against the Cardinals. Now he's at home against New England. And guess what? Here's a little surprise for you. I believe New England will be winning in this game. I believe that the 49ers need to come back.
Andy Holloway
Oh, and I cool off, brother.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So that's a hot take there. Kaepernick. To me, he's my streaming quarterback of the week. You know, Jason, it's your turn.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
That's all I'll say.
Andy Holloway
All right, I'm going to say this on Kaepernick. Remember, we wanted to put in to vote for rule changes, and my rule change was, you know, you know, I think that Pat, for a quarterback passing and running yards, they should be scored the same, Right?
Jason Moore
It was really a dumb suggestion.
Andy Holloway
Everybody downvoted it. I just rest my case on Colin Kaepernick here because he's not a good real quarterback, but he is a good fantasy quarterback.
Jason Moore
How dare you?
Andy Holloway
Sorry. All right. I'm going to stick in the same vein for fantasy.
Jason Moore
I was going to say. What?
Andy Holloway
Well, because this is a fantasy fantasy.
Jason Moore
I know.
Andy Holloway
So I'm going to go with Tyrod Taylor this week. He is actually. He is available in half of the leagues. Because he was on by this week, people had to drop him. Look, he looked legit good last game. Not just running the ball. He looked good passing the ball. They have had a lot of injuries to their wide receivers this year. Lingering small stuff to Goodwin, to Robert Woods. This bye week has been good for them, even to shady with the hamstring. If they get a little bit healthier and they keep their momentum up, they're playing against Cincinnati, who we have seen all year. Last year, you. You didn't want to play against Cincinnati. This year, their defense cannot get it together. Eli Manning had three touchdowns against them last night. I think Tyrod Taylor is a. Is a great play. He's going to be a top 12 quarterback this week and you could pick him up off of waivers right now. Breaking news.
Jason Moore
It's really exciting. There have been discussions about Robert Griffin III returning to practice this week. So.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Excited.
Andy Holloway
I'm super excited. We can make a lot of good jokes out of it.
Jason Moore
So you've got Tyrod Taylor, I've got Colin Kaepernick. Now, Mike, he didn't submit a streamer this week, but I think he was deciding between Kessler and Keenum.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he's hard to know. I got a text from him. He said Robert Griffin might be coming back.
Jason Moore
So he might go to Griffin.
Andy Holloway
No, he's saying I got a last chance to take Kessler.
Jason Moore
Sure. Also, also ignore that advice.
Andy Holloway
Please do not sign cast.
Jason Moore
No, no, no. Taylor and Kaepernick are two guys. All right, we're going to talk to Eric Dickerson, hall of Famer, talk about some of these. This is a great segment to listen to if you have an interest in what's going on at the running back position right now. So let's talk to. Let's talk to Eric.
Andy Holloway
You talk.
Jason Moore
All right. The fantasy footballers are excited to welcome in NFL hall of Famer. You know him, Eric Dickerson. Thanks for joining us.
Eric Dickerson
Thank you. Thank you guys for having me.
Jason Moore
Absolutely. So look, there, there are a lot of exciting young running backs out there, a lot of fantasy football decisions for the short term and the long term. And, and I want to talk to you because I don't know if there's anybody who knows running backs better than Eric Dickerson. So let's start with these youngsters. Let's talk about, you know, you've got these guys right now, Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott, David Johnson, and now Melvin Gordon this year that seem to be these every down type of backs where the NFL seems to be bending towards a lot of these two and three back rotations. So how hard is it to be in every down running back in today's NFL?
Eric Dickerson
I don't think. I don't think it's hard at all. Because you got to understand, a lot of these guys came out of college after every down back and they get to the pros and when you the guy high, he expects to be that guy. So I don't think it's a stretch at all. I think the league has kind of stuck into people's mind, make the public believe that the running back position is dying. It's a dying beat. It's all about the passing game. Even though, you know, football is almost like seven on seven now, you know, you can't hit anybody. But the running back is a very important factor in playing a football game, as you see, you know, with Ezekiel down in Dallas.
Jason Moore
Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, that's one of those things. You know, you do hear people, and I've heard you say the opposite, and you hear people say, oh, you can just plug and play. You can just put anybody in, in this type of system or that type of system. But, you know, look at Ezekiel Elliott. Do you disagree with the fact that Alfred Morris would not be doing this in that offense?
Eric Dickerson
No, I don't. I don't think Alfred would do exactly what Ezekiel's doing. I think Zeke's a little bit more dynamic, but I know this much effort would have a great year. Let me tell you something. An offensive line that the Cowboys has is such a big plus for a running back. The big thing is not getting hit at the blind of scrimmage, not letting penetration come into the backfield. And the Cowboys are good at that. I see the Steelers are good at that. Where the back gets a chance to kind of slide and pick and choose his hole, or sometimes the hole is there. Like the last play yesterday that Zeke ran, that touchdown, a 32 yard touchdown. I mean, that hole was there. All you do is Just run. So, you know, when you got a great line, it makes it easier on the back and makes it. It makes it easy for the football team too, because you want to control the clock. When you got a big offensive line, a line that can block, run, block and pass blocks, you can control the clock.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you've definitely seen that in Dallas. Now, look, I know everybody wants to talk about this. I know you get asked it a lot. They want to talk about 1808. And so I'm going to put it to you straight. Do you think Ezekiel Elliott breaks the record?
Eric Dickerson
No, I don't. I don't think he takes it right. You ask me straight if you don't want the truth, don't ask me.
Andy Holloway
I want the truth.
Eric Dickerson
If he breaks the record, he breaks the record. I'll just say that myself. But do I think he'll break it now? Yeah, I think that they'll try to cut back on some of his carries, you know, possibly get into the playoffs. Because, look, it's more about winning football games than records. It really is about, you know, accomplishing the team goals and that's the Super Bowl. And being healthy, you know, being beat up is not going to kind of going to profit you anything. I know they want to try to keep him as healthy as they possibly can get the carriage they want to get out of him, but also protect him at the same time. I can tell you when I went out my rookie season, around when I came in, I came in at like 225. That was my playing weight. And when you come out of college, you play a 12 game season. You're not used to a 20 game season in the NFL really with the preseason. Back in the days, we played preseason games for real. And then you got the 16 game regular season. When I got to around week 11 and 12, you can look at my numbers, they start falling off. I could only. I got like 90 yards, 80 yards, maybe, maybe 100. But it was tough because I was beat up and I was just tired and so. And also I dropped. I went from 225 down to 12. So that, that's one of the factors too, that they're trying to keep him healthy, to rotate him and Alfred Morris in the game, you know, to give him a break.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Eric, this is, this is Jason. So I wanted to, I wanted to ask you a little bit. We say for fantasy football purposes that it usually matters more the opportunity that a running back has, their team, their system, their offensive line rather than the talent of the running back. So would you agree with that for fantasy purposes and production standpoint, or do you think that talent trumps the opportunity?
Eric Dickerson
Oh, that's a diamond. That's a great question. I mean, if the talent is just superior and you've got the opportunity there, that makes it even that much better. It's like if you've got a great offensive line and you've got an average back, okay, well, he's going to be good, but he's not going to be great. You have a great offensive line and a great back. Well, that's really what you want. That works. That's, you know, that's really a tough one. But me personally, I mean, I would rather have that great offensive line. I mean, I give you them guys up front because sometimes you can put. If your main guy gets hurt and you put a guy back there, that may be in any other system, he may be a guy that gets 700 yards in his best years, but behind a great offensive line or a great defense, playing a great defense, he may have, you know, 80 tackles. You know, with a great offensive line, he may have 1400 yards. So I would say, you know, give me that system.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So let's. Let's shift and look at another one of these stud young running backs who you have to be more familiar with than most. Nobody knows the Rams running game better than Eric Dickerson when it comes to Todd Gerd.
Jason Moore
That's a strong point there. Yeah. What running game?
Andy Holloway
So the opportunity there, right. Is not that great. That offensive line, the quarterback is a mess. But here's the reality. I was looking at some stats. Todd Gurley right now on the season has 167 rushing attempts. He has zero carries of 20 or more yards, where Benny Cunningham, he only has 18 carries on the season and he has rushed for 20 or more yards on two different plays. What do you. What insight can you offer us on what's going on with Todd Gurley? Should we be scared the rest of the season or not?
Eric Dickerson
No, you shouldn't be scared. Look, when teams play the Los Angeles Rams, even if I'm a defensive coach, 30 is not going to beat us. That's their mindset. He got us last year. He snuck up on us. But this year we know who he is. 30 is not going to beat us. We're going to let 17 beat us. We don't believe he can beat us. He might throw a touchdown. He may even throw two if he's lucky. But we don't believe it. So we're going to stack the box. The offensive line isn't that good. They can't block us, so we don't worry about it. And that's what's happening. That's what's happening down right down here in LA is that, you know, they don't really worry about Case Keenan throwing the football because, you know, he's. I mean, I hate to say it, I like Case. I don't really know him. I just feel bad for him. He's a backup quarterback. He's a guy that comes in when the starter gets hurt, and he manages the game for three or four weeks. Not 10 weeks, not 14 weeks, but three or four weeks. And the Rams offensive line is not good. They're just not a good unit together. They haven't been together that long. They've got a lot of high draft picks that are not panning out. They're not playing well together. And it's showing. So for Todd, it's just a struggle. I mean, I watch it every week. You know, even getting back to the line of scrimmage is a struggle. I mean, getting hit in the backfield is no fun. I got a text, I think, in week two from. From my friend Thurman Thomas, another Hall of Famer. He said to me in the text, that offensive line is going to get girly. Kills me. I mean, I'm. And I. He's watching on television, I'm watching it live. So he's seeing what I'm seeing.
Jason Moore
Does that. Does that become demoralizing to a running back then? Because Gurley, you know, we know the talent. We could see it flash last year, and now you go game after game of, you know, he wants to carry that load for them, but all of a sudden you've got 10 in the box.
Eric Dickerson
It's first. It's frustrating. I mean, it is. It's so frustrating, especially when you can't. You can't block them. I mean, and if you plan against another team, like we played the Bills, I went up three, four weeks ago, we played the Bills, and LaShawn McCoy is laying all over the field. I said to my buddy, I know that's killing Todd, because another back. You watch another back get all you like, man. He said, man, why come I can't get hold like that? That's exactly what you're saying, man, look at that. Oh, my God. You don't say it to anybody else, but you said to yourself, why come I can't get that?
Andy Holloway
So. So then I guess the question has to be asked, can anything change the rest of the year? I mean, I agree with you that the deep. If I'm the defensive coordinator, I'm saying I'm stopping 30. But that's going to happen every week the rest of the year. So can Todd improve?
Eric Dickerson
You know what? You know, I'm just going to be honest with you. It's going to be tough on Todd to have a great year this year. He's just going to pop some big ones, if that, if that's possible, you know. You know, some of those guys come get caught up too close to the line of scrimmage. If he can, you know, maybe get by. They say six can't block eight, six can't block nine. But you have to make sometimes two and three guys miss it. That can happen. He can salvage his year as a player, you know, have a good year. Especially for fantasy football. I mean, the fantasy people are looking at him like, man, it's a bus. I mean, golly, I knew I shouldn't have did this, but really, it's not his fault. It's just he doesn't have the opportunity. I mean, I watch it, and I keep saying this week after week, if they keep letting these guys get into the backfield so fast, they're going to get him hurt. Because one thing, when you get into the backfield that fast, you know, you barely getting the ball. That's when black guys, you know, fall on your knee or, you know, you throw your ankle. And I'm just hoping that doesn't happen.
Jason Moore
Yeah. You know, out here, we're. We're Cardinal fans. We've had David Johnson and Todd Gurley on the show before. They seem to have a playful rivalry. And one decision that fantasy owners have to make, you know, in dynasty leagues and keeper leagues moving forward, is. Is Todd Gurley or David Johnson. So I want to put you on the spot. From what you see, who do you think is the better Dynasty running back? Is it David Johnson? Is it Todd Gurley right now?
Eric Dickerson
David Johnson, you know, especially because the system he's in, the blocking, he gets up front. He has a. He has a real veteran quarterback. I mean, a real veteran quarterback and a veteran football team, but most definitely is David Johnson. I mean, for his talent wise, I mean, I think I might have to go with Tart Gurley, but, you know, and it's even. I mean, I'd say it's very close. I mean, it's not. I would take. I would take A or I would take B. I mean, I'd take a one, I'd take a two. It didn't make a difference.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Eric Dickerson
You know, for right now, for fantasy players, I would have to take David Johnson because what he's able to do. The system is working. You know, they can score points. I mean, we can get in the red zone, we can't score any points. But you'd have to take David Johnson as a fantasy player.
Andy Holloway
Certainly. Certainly. Right now. I guess the question is, over the next five years, what's your.
Jason Moore
What's your Jeff Fisher confidence level?
Andy Holloway
Oh, that's a great question.
Eric Dickerson
The next five years, I mean, if they don't change, if they don't. If they don't get a true offensive coordinator in here. Yeah, it's going to be rough. I mean, I mean, I'm just being honest with you. I don't. And we don't know what our young quarterback can do because we haven't seen him in the preseason. And I mean, in the regular season, preseason, he didn't look very good. I mean, Jeff Fisher gave him the A minus. I gave him a D minus at best and has played in the preseason. I mean, I'm just being honest. What I saw. I mean, and I'm like, I say, I mean, I'm not. I'm not a quarterback guru, but I know when, when the quarterback position is clicking, and it just wasn't clicking in the. In the preseason.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Eric Dickerson
So that's what I saw.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it's one of those things. This year we came into the season worried about that offensive line and hoped that somehow Gurley could completely overcome what took place there in the quarterback play. And it doesn't seem to have happened yet. Eric, we want to thank you so much for coming on the show. You can follow Eric Dickerson on Twitter at Eric Dickerson. That's easy to remember.
Andy Holloway
It's a good, good Twitter handle.
Eric Dickerson
You got it.
Jason Moore
Oh, and he's verified, too.
Eric Dickerson
Thank you, guys.
Jason Moore
All right, take care. All right. That was fun.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that was really cool. Thanks for coming on, Eric.
Jason Moore
Absolutely. So let's spend. Let's spend a couple minutes in the mailbag.
Andy Holloway
Oh, mailbag, mailbag. I didn't. I didn't know it was happening and.
Jason Moore
No, you didn't.
Andy Holloway
I don't have the vocal.
Jason Moore
No, you're much better than I am, I can tell you that. All right. If you have a question for the show, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click the questions button. You can also dial Our voicemail hotline, 302464, TFFB you're going to throw a.
Andy Holloway
Mailbag on like every show this week, aren't you?
Jason Moore
I'm going to try. Here's a great question about the Vikings defense from Shauna in Florida. When is it time to quit starting the Vikings defense? Every week. I looked at this earlier today. I think at this point you need to just treat them like any defense because I don't love all of their playoff matchups. So if you can find somebody better to play this week. I know they have the Cardinals. That doesn't make me excited. I know they're at home. I don't think you have to drop them. I think you can start them. They're not going to be devastating to your team. But at this point, if I had the Vikings D, I'd, I'd be streaming them based on some of the matchups they have in the upcoming weeks. Do you agree or would you just start them?
Andy Holloway
No, I do agree. They're, you know, much has been made about their offensive struggles while they've lost four in a row, but their defense has waned a little bit as well. You know, I just talked about the fact that Rob Kelly almost got 100 yards against them. And the reality is, you know, the two weeks ago Jordan Howard went full ham on them. So maybe they're not the defense that they were for their five game winning streak. I do still think they are a talented, very above average defense. But they're. I agree they're not locked and loaded. I'm not playing them against Arizona the next week in Detroit. I think that's iffy. You know, they've got Jacksonville to start the playoffs. You're just going to have to play the matchups with them.
Jason Moore
All right, Cole in Boston says what's up, ballers? Thanks to the Ultimate Draft kit, my team is looking nice. I'm sitting seven and three and in the number one seed. It's three days until the trade deadline. I've been offered a huge trade. I would be sending Melvin Gordon and DeAndre Hopkins for Amari Cooper, Jay Ajayi and Brandon Cooks. Would you do that trade? I think I would do that trade. I do.
Andy Holloway
I will say this.
Jason Moore
If you have a need at wide receiver at all, I would do that trade.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, if, if you are going to be starting both of those wide receivers, both of those wide receivers are probably better than DeAndre Hopkins.
Jason Moore
Yes, they are.
Andy Holloway
DeAndre Hopkins is a, is a nice name and a bad fantasy option right now. He's just not getting it done because of Brock Osweiler. I would say 100% because of Brock Osweiler. Yeah.
Jason Moore
But he's going to be see the.
Andy Holloway
Paper at Hopkins house.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he got it.
Andy Holloway
Brock has helped him with that to the ceiling.
Jason Moore
12 foot ceilings.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. No, I. And you know, look, I buy in a little bit more on Jay Ajayi every week. You know, I said when I when I went and watched film, he looked great when he could get ahead of steam and he looked bad when he was met in the backfield. Their offensive line has been getting it done now. Did they just lose an offensive lineman? I'm going to have to look that up. I had very vivid dreams last night and I'm thinking maybe that was in my dream. I'm going to bet that it's been.
Jason Moore
A while since you've had a dream that you've shared as a fantasy prognostication.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Too long.
Jason Moore
Maybe you dreamed something about their offensive line.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I'll look it up.
Jason Moore
All right, let's move on. Drew in Taos, New Mexico, I have Thomas Rawls in my IR spot. I need to drop a player to move him into my roster. So do I drop Rawls, Derek Henry or Kristen Michael? Who gets the boot?
Andy Holloway
Kristen Michael.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to boot him with confidence, a confident boot. Yeah. Slip him the Ambien and the woke one can go back to sleep.
Jason Moore
Okay. Rich in Charlevoix, Missouri. Should I drop Landry for Parker in non PPR format leagues, Parker's coming off a 5 for 103 game against San Diego.
Andy Holloway
Wait, wait. Was the question drop Landry for Parker?
Jason Moore
It was in non ppr. It was.
Andy Holloway
Oh, okay. Well, in standard then I would definitely not do that. No. In no format would I do that.
Jason Moore
Okay, look, I agree with that.
Andy Holloway
By the way. If Parker has a game or two better than Landry, whatever that happens. I've got two seasons of Landry being a really quality first read target. Good fantasy option, good real life NFL wide receiver. I'm not dropping Landry under any circumstance.
Jason Moore
Okay. So I think we're done. I think that's the show.
Andy Holloway
We did it.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
And what was not a dream, Brandon Albert. Remember their tackle, he dislocated his wrist in the game, popped it back in, kept playing. He's visiting a specialist to check on that risk, see if there's future damage done. This is something we'll monitor and make a note of to check back in with you on. We did see earlier in the year when the Dolphins had struggles with injuries on their offensive line. Their offensive line looked horrific in those first three weeks. If. If they have lost Brandon Albert, I do think that matters for them. I don't think they have the depth at offensive line to really have. Have starters lost that. That's. Some teams can lose a quality starting offensive line and shift people around, which the Dolphins will have to do. I don't think the Dolphins can withstand that easily. I'm not saying, like, kill Jay Ajay.
Jason Moore
No. But it seems like Albert's going to miss at least a week.
Andy Holloway
Probably.
Jason Moore
I mean, probably they're evaluating that. Thanks for tuning into the show, for subscribing, for liking us, for being our friend.
Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
That's right. All right, we'll see you later. See you tomorrow. Keep Drake cut.
Andy Holloway
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 11 Waivers, Eric Dickerson, Streams of the Week
Release Date: November 15, 2016
In this episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Jason Moore take the helm as Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright is out of town. Their chemistry is immediately evident as they engage in light-hearted banter about almost having a solo show and Andy’s humorous exaggeration about “jumping off a bridge” due to frustration with fantasy football (00:56–01:19). This sets a relaxed and entertaining tone for the episode.
a. Rob Gronkowski Injury
Adam Schefter reports that Rob Gronkowski has a chest injury, initially feared to be a punctured lung. The injury is deemed not overly serious, but Gronkowski could miss one to two weeks (09:11–09:41). Andy emphasizes the impact on fantasy teams, stating, “Anytime you miss a game with a superstar, that's a serious injury for your fantasy team” (09:41).
b. Alshon Jeffery Suspension
Alshon Jeffery has been suspended for four games due to performance-enhancing drugs, possibly expired supplements. Jason notes, “Alshon Hopkins is a bad fantasy option right now. You can’t trust him” (10:26–10:45).
c. Brandon Marshall Addition
Andy shares his experience of trading Larry Fitzgerald for Brandon Marshall, highlighting Marshall's potential despite the team's ongoing issues: “I'm really happy he's on by this week” (12:06–12:23). Jason notes the strategic benefit of not having to start Marshall without guilt.
a. Running Backs
Andy and Jason delve into the best running back pickups for Week 11:
b. Wide Receivers
Key waiver wire pickups discussed include:
c. Tight Ends
The hosts evaluate several tight-end options:
d. Quarterbacks (Streaming Options)
Options for streaming quarterbacks include:
NFL Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson joins the show to provide expert insights on the running back position.
a. The Role of Running Backs in Modern NFL Offenses
Dickerson discusses the evolving use of running backs, emphasizing that having versatile, every-down backs like Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, and David Johnson is becoming standard:
“I don't think it's hard at all… the running back is a very important factor in playing a football game” (40:40–41:15).
b. Ezekiel Elliott’s Rookie Rushing Record
When asked if Elliott will break Dickerson’s rookie rushing record, Dickerson responds candidly:
“No, I don't. I don't think he'll break it now” (42:40–42:46).
c. Opportunity vs. Talent in Fantasy Football
Discussing whether opportunity or talent is more crucial for fantasy production, Dickerson advocates for the importance of both, leaning slightly towards opportunity provided by a strong offensive line:
“I would rather have that great offensive line” (44:30–45:29).
d. Todd Gurley’s Struggles with the Rams
Analyzing Todd Gurley’s diminished performance, Dickerson attributes it to poor offensive line play and increased defensive pressure, suggesting that Gurley’s situation may not improve significantly:
“It’s going to be tough on Todd to have a great year this year” (46:23–49:57).
e. Dynasty Running Backs: David Johnson vs. Todd Gurley
When choosing between Johnson and Gurley for dynasty leagues, Dickerson leans towards David Johnson due to his system and consistent production:
“For fantasy players, I would have to take David Johnson” (50:24–51:04).
Listeners submit questions which Andy and Jason address:
a. Vikings Defense:
Shauna from Florida asks when to stop starting the Vikings defense. Both hosts agree to treat them like any other defense, emphasizing the importance of matchup considerations:
“If you can find somebody better to play this week… start them depending on matchups” (53:31–54:19).
b. Trade Decision:
Cole in Boston debates trading Melvin Gordon and DeAndre Hopkins for Amari Cooper, Jay Ajayi, and Brandon Cooks. Both hosts support the trade, citing DeAndre’s underperformance and the value of the incoming players:
“If you have a need at wide receiver… I would do that trade” (54:32–55:23).
c. Dropping Players for IR Spot:
Drew in Taos faces a dilemma on whom to drop to move Thomas Rawls into his roster. Andy advises dropping Kristen Michael over Derek Henry or Christian Michael, emphasizing Rawls' value:
“I’m going to boot him with confidence” (56:18–56:27).
d. Dropping Landry for Parker:
Rich in Charlevoix questions whether to drop Ryan Landry for Parker in non-PPR leagues. Both hosts unanimously advise against the trade, highlighting Parker’s current inconsistency:
“In no format would I do that” (56:39–56:59).
Andy and Jason wrap up the show by encouraging listeners to join their fantasy community at jointhefoot.com and follow them on Twitter. They also promote Pristine Auction, highlighting its unique sports memorabilia offerings, and originalgrain.comfootballers for exclusive watch discounts.
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This episode provides comprehensive insights into Week 11 waiver pickups, strategic streaming options, and expert analysis from Eric Dickerson on the running back landscape. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy manager or a newcomer, the Fantasy Footballers offer valuable advice to optimize your team and navigate the complexities of the season.