
Fantasy Football Podcast for October 14, 2016. We're back again and breaking down the rest of the week 6 matchups, injury updates and start/sit questions, and diving headfirst into "The Daily Dose" with Chris Meaney from the FNTSY Sports Network. Don't
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
Oh, Jason. Now, your introduction to the show there, unfortunately, first try. No, it was called back on a holding penalty.
Andy Holloway
Oh, really?
Jason Moore
Yeah, I was actually called back.
Mike Wright
That was the C.J. anderson of.
Jason Moore
It was called back three times. See you never. Everybody out there hears Jason one time. We enjoyed hearing him three times.
Andy Holloway
I had a.
Jason Moore
You know, look, speaking is your forte.
Andy Holloway
I know that I talk for a living, but I'm not. The words are so hard to come out. Right.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it said. Said perfectly. Welcome to the podcast, the Fantasy Footballers back again. Andy, Mike and Jason. I was alluding to the insanity of being a CG Anderson owner last night.
Mike Wright
My goodness.
Jason Moore
I mean, it was comical on so many different levels. Only because I guess a coach matters. I mean, I guess if Gary Kubiak's there, do they get 17 second half penalties?
Andy Holloway
I can't imagine they do, but. But at the same time, I can't imagine that makes a difference. I was asking you while we were watching the game, like, can this really matter? Are they like, well, you know, we can do whatever coaching here.
Jason Moore
Right, Right. Like the coaches out. So it's party time. Look, they had a stat there on the game last night. It was like, like 30 seconds into the fourth quarter. Then like. And the Broncos have eight second half penalties. And Jason goes. It's 30 seconds into the fourth quarter. Like, that's eight third quarter penalties.
Andy Holloway
That's. That was. That was a whack.
Jason Moore
I did the math in our league and I would have had 18 additional points if C.J. anderson would not have had three major plays called back on.
Mike Wright
I have the stats if you want to hear them.
Jason Moore
Oh, they hypothetical.
Mike Wright
Yeah, so.
Jason Moore
And none of those. I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
Andy Holloway
No, you're not wrong.
Jason Moore
But it's seems like all of the penalty calls when I watched them were away from the play and didn't have anything to do with C.J. anderson.
Mike Wright
I completely agree. And so Pro Football focus tweeted out CJ Anderson on plays not called back by penalty. 11 touches for 46 yards. Anderson on the Plays where the offensive line got cold for holding three touches for 47 yards and a touchdown.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So basically, I mean, a huge difference in the performance. And I hate. I had a matchup last night where I was C.J. anderson versus Melvin Gordon and I thought I was just dead the way the game script was going. And then they pass that ball to Anderson. He makes a great move, fights into the end zone. I get up, I'm high five. And Jason. And I see the yellow again and I just fell to the floor in. I should have taken a picture.
Andy Holloway
I should have taken a picture of you.
Jason Moore
You really should have.
Andy Holloway
Face down on the carpet. On the carpet for as long as the San Diego Chargers coach was ham. Was McCoy. Yeah, McCoy was face palm in the. That was. That was.
Jason Moore
So this is the quick question today to talk about the game from last night. So we're already into it. I cannot believe Mike McCoy's reactions. Can you imagine Bill Belichick with his hands in his face?
Andy Holloway
He's a human being.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to crush him for it.
Andy Holloway
I understand feeling he's a human being and I completely understand feeling that way. I am going to crush him for that. Not in a mean way, but look, if I was the owner of the franchise, if I owned this as my entity and my leader of the players, my leader of the coaches, and the guy who is in charge of running my hundreds of millions of dollars I'm spending is reacting that way when times are hard. I can't. I can't believe that he can lead them to victory. And honestly, you've seen these collapses.
Jason Moore
Credit for defeating the super bowl championship.
Andy Holloway
Sure, right. They did win the game.
Jason Moore
And, and. But it is. It's a weird. It's a weird thing. You can tell that the pressure is breaking that guy over the last month.
Mike Wright
I mean, look, you know what.
Jason Moore
For his head and say, well, you.
Mike Wright
Know what he was looking at. If they lose that game. Is Mike McCoy employed right now by the San Diego Chargers?
Jason Moore
No, it's over.
Andy Holloway
No way.
Mike Wright
Exactly.
Jason Moore
And we, you know, you look at the injuries. Keenan Allen, you know, to start the year off losing Danny Woodhead, losing Teo. Like there's five key injuries on that.
Andy Holloway
Team that was last year.
Jason Moore
And having no Joey Bosa to start the year, which was not McCoy's fault.
Andy Holloway
I have no idea if McCoy is actually a good coach or not. I'm not saying that he's a bad coach. We haven't. It's not fair to judge him when he's had half of his team destroyed two years in a row. But he is broken now for this team in this moment.
Jason Moore
Fantasy headlines of the game. You know, it's not good for the receiving cores of either team when Jordan nor Jordan Norwood is in the headlines and Hunter Henry Lee, all receivers. If you had a receiver on either team, you're pretty disappointed with last night's performance. Whether it was Sanders, whether it was demarius Thomas, the fumble from demarius, I mean that drive went from a touchdown and a three point deficit, four point deficit to nothing in two seconds. With that holding call on the fumble, Tyrell Williams had three for 28. And that led the wide receivers on the San Diego side, which is just. You got nothing. I mean they went into full turtle mode and they, they got away with it. So the only thing I'm going to ask you one thing and that is.
Mike Wright
I think there should be two questions.
Jason Moore
Okay, two questions. Number one is Devonte Booker played well. Again, limited touches, but five for 46, 9.2 a carry. Is he a must own?
Andy Holloway
Oh, absolutely.
Mike Wright
He is a must own.
Jason Moore
Even if you're not the CJ owner.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Mike Wright
Just as a. I still think he's a handcuff, but he's one of those very high value handcuffs.
Jason Moore
Would be huge if C.J. went out.
Mike Wright
Yeah. But for C.J. anderson, we were talking about it before the show. Jason is a sell. I am going to try and sneak him away for extremely cheap. Look, if, if you have some, we should talk. Well, if you have someone in your league who did not watch the game and all they're looking at is a box score and they're like, wow, C.J. anderson was terrible. You heard me read the station. Three touches for 47 yards and a touchdown called back. You have, I think it was, it was not so much Booker, he was a nice spark. But you had Booker come in and rattle off a couple big runs. C.J. anderson came in immediately after those runs were happening in the middle of the field and broke off a huge run like the offensive line was finally rolling and that play got called back on a penalty. So these are things that are not showing up in his fantasy point at the productions.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
And then you, if you watch the whole game, C.J. anderson is still the man for them. He was in far more. I don't have the snap percentages in front of me, but what my eyes were telling me is Anderson was in far more. It was crunch time. Anderson was in during that two minute drill. That's where he padded his, his fantasy Production and saved people, saved me, saved me.
Andy Holloway
So here's. Here's my argument for why I'm. I'm selling C.J. anderson is because he got enough work with that garbage time to be able to still be seen as this top, top back. But the reality is what happened. The first two weeks, he was the only guy Booker was barely used. And when I watched the game, just eyeballing it, I mean, you know, Andy and I were calling it out every single drive, who's on the field, who's out there, and the amount that Booker was in. I know, I know that C.J. anderson, I think doubled him in touches. But Booker was in that game quite a lot. And the. And the truth is, you look and you go, okay, well, C.J. anderson had a lot of catches, but he was not looked at. He was wide open the whole game on those little screens, and he was completely ignored. It wasn't until that final drive where the game was pretty much over, that he started just dumping them off to him. You take those out, I mean, you could say, okay, sure, he got, you know, he got those other plays called back, but he also benefited from extreme garbage time. So those kind of a little bit wash each other away. And what I saw was an okay back. I would like to own him, but he's not that top five back that we thought. And if you can get good value for him, that's why I would trade him.
Jason Moore
The game script and the offensive line have not been conducive to Anderson the last few weeks. I mean, you've been behind.
Mike Wright
And so I'll say Anderson snap percentage according to Pro Football Reference, 78%.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he was. He was out there a lot.
Mike Wright
That's the guy I want on my team.
Jason Moore
Sure.
Mike Wright
It just didn't work out this week.
Jason Moore
All right, we need to move on today's show, we've got our matchups, the Part two. So if you didn't hear the first half of the matchups or you don't hear one today that you were expecting on yesterday's show, we also have our Daily Dose segment with Chris Meaney of the Fantasy Sports Network. So we're gonna. Towards the end of the show, we're gonna jump into that, give you some DFS picks that might be great for you this week and FanDuel. And again, if you need to sign up on FanDuel, do FanDuel.com footballers. You get some free entries if you do it that way. Also, guys, it's Foot Clan Friday.
Andy Holloway
Oh, we got a giveaway.
Jason Moore
So we Got a giveaway. That was very nice.
Andy Holloway
Unnecessary.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Michael Raines.
Andy Holloway
Yes, he does.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
News and notes from around the league.
Jason Moore
You know, we've done like, you know, 285 shows. Earlier in the week, Mike and Jason had a couple shows without me and I listened to those shows and I heard Mike at one point say that he couldn't push the button on the drops because of the depth. Like, yes, you're looking down and you very deceptive. You thought you were pushing. And this never happened to me in my life until just now. I went to push the button and because of how my microphones lined up.
Chris Meaney
I pushed the air.
Jason Moore
I did not push it. I never had that happen. And now I understand.
Andy Holloway
So falling apart mentally.
Jason Moore
Oh, it's Friday, you know. So some quick news for everybody. There is a weather advisory warning for the Atlanta Seattle game. We have a storm front coming in. We will update you on that as well on Twitter. But implications there when, you know, when a storm comes in, the passing game is affected. So I mean, you're in Seattle. I think that's advantageous to Seattle.
Mike Wright
To the woke one.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah, perhaps. What's going on with Ryan Matthews?
Mike Wright
Well, he's, he will not practice on Friday. Missing with an illness but still fully expected to play for weeks.
Jason Moore
All right, today is Friday, which means lots of injury updates. We're going to run through our in and out, let you know who we think is playing this week.
Andy Holloway
What's it going to payment fly?
Chris Meaney
Are you in or out?
Jason Moore
In or out? Cody Kessler, quarterback of the Browns.
Mike Wright
I'm going to go with. I'm going in.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, in. He, he was already named the starter. He's. He's in.
Jason Moore
It's better for other players on the team than it is for Cody Kessler. Obviously. He's my lowest rated quarterback this week. Eddie Lacy, in or out?
Mike Wright
This one is still tough to tell. I think it's going to Be game time decision. I think he will play.
Jason Moore
Okay, that's. That's what we're doing here.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to go in as well, but it will be a close one.
Jason Moore
So Mark Ingram, it's going to play.
Andy Holloway
He missed it with an illness. I'm not concerned yet.
Jason Moore
Do we think Latavius Murray misses a second straight game?
Mike Wright
Yes, I do.
Andy Holloway
I do as well.
Jason Moore
Rashad Jennings, do you think he's going to play this week?
Andy Holloway
I. I still don't think he's going to.
Jason Moore
So you're a no. Mike, what do you think?
Mike Wright
I would say yes, but there is no. No way I'm starting him in any fantasy league.
Jason Moore
All right. He takes on the Ravens this week. Arian Foster, Ltd. On Thursday. Is he back in business?
Mike Wright
He should be there for a couple plays.
Jason Moore
All right.
Andy Holloway
Jeremy Hill, are you saying because he's going to get in there, look great, and then get injured again?
Mike Wright
I'm just saying he's Aaron Foster.
Jason Moore
Yeah, fair enough.
Mike Wright
Jeremy Hill, I think he'll play, but he is a very dicey. Fancy.
Jason Moore
You said he's a big sit this week for you.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Yes, I agree with that.
Jason Moore
Theo Reddick missed another practice.
Andy Holloway
I think there's a. It seems like there's a legitimate chance he might not play. The fact that they went out.
Mike Wright
Wow.
Andy Holloway
And signed for set for set.
Jason Moore
Does that mean for set for set would be grabbed?
Andy Holloway
Yes. Four set should be owned because if the. If. If need. You know, I mean, look, Dwayne Washington's not going to play if Theo Riddick doesn't play. Amir Abdullah is obviously already on IR all of a sudden. Justin for sets. A real fantasy option this week.
Jason Moore
Now, it's not like he's an inexperienced rookie either. Coming in. I mean, they can give him a workload. They paid him the veteran minimum. Minimum. So they can do whatever they want with him.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
And he's happy about it because he's on a team. So who else are we talking about? Let's move on to wide receiver Sammy Coates. Do you think he's in or out?
Mike Wright
He's. He had swelling in the hand with the. The big laceration, but I would expect him to play.
Andy Holloway
I do as well.
Jason Moore
All right, how about Eddie Royal?
Andy Holloway
Look, he didn't practice all last week and he played. He's playing.
Jason Moore
Does that mean he's startable against this defense in Chicago?
Andy Holloway
I'm not going to start him if he doesn't practice again this week. Because what we saw last week was the targets were there, but he just wasn't as effective, as efficient with them. I think part of that's his injury.
Jason Moore
All right, Randall Cobb. Yeah, he's in or out.
Mike Wright
He's returned to practice. I say he's in.
Jason Moore
Willie Snead.
Mike Wright
He's going to be in. He's. And he actually said that he feels very close to 100%. So that's fantastic news.
Jason Moore
All right, what about. Let me think here. Let's go. Mike Wallace.
Mike Wright
Mike Wallace has been practicing with the non contact injury. He's upgraded to full and I think.
Andy Holloway
Mike Wallace, last practice he got in completely.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he's upgraded to full and I think he's sneaky.
Andy Holloway
I completely agree. He is a sneaky snart.
Jason Moore
That's going way back. All right, Eric Ebron, in or out?
Andy Holloway
He is officially out.
Jason Moore
Tyler Iford, in or out?
Mike Wright
Okay, I'm gonna go without.
Jason Moore
All right, fair enough. Are we getting into the forecast now?
Andy Holloway
Let's do it. Fantasy forecast.
Jason Moore
Somehow we're in. Week six. Very exciting. Very fun.
Mike Wright
Time flies when you're having fun. My man.
Jason Moore
That is right. We're going to jump back into the matchups. Let's kick it off with the Ravens heading to New York to take on the Giants, the disappointing offense. There were some reports that they're going to start moving wide receivers around in the formation to try to get the ball in their hands more. Yada, yada. Things aren't going good. Eli Manning, you can't start him.
Mike Wright
No, no. And especially not against the Ravens.
Jason Moore
And you really can't start a running back on New York, can you?
Mike Wright
No, no. There's. This is a kind of a. Just an overall gross matchup. There's not a lot going on that I want a part of.
Andy Holloway
The only running back that I would start in a pinch is Bobby Rainey. If Rashad Jennings is out and that's.
Mike Wright
That's scoring format, I would only start.
Andy Holloway
I agree.
Mike Wright
In a PR situation. And Terrence west is not a terrible play. I think that I'm trying to find him in my eye. So I have him just outside of running back 2 range. But like I talked about with Mike Wallace being sneaky, you had the whole offensive change. Tressman is out for Baltimore. So I. And I think a lot of that was because Terrence west was carving up the defense last week. But then they stopped giving him the ball. They just forgot about him. Like Mark Tressman is one to do. So I expect him to get more touches.
Jason Moore
Based on west success last week, how do you view Dixon moving forward? Because Dixon, obviously, he had a Big brace on the knee. He was first game back. You're not going to have a lot of work. Do you still think he has a chance to overtake west in that backfield, or do you think it's going to be at best a platoon down the stretch?
Mike Wright
He still has a chance. It's going to take some time. I mean, if it feels like in from just reading the rumors in the bushes that Dixon's their guy moving forward, he's the future of the franchise at the running back position. But it's going to take. You're going to have to hold him for a while. He's a like Booker. I think he's a very high value handcuff right now. But because west came out with those two monster games, it wouldn't be in like two weeks that we see Dixon take.
Andy Holloway
And one of the things that I think is worth noting is last week they got away from the run like you were saying, which caused. I mean, it was so bizarre that it. That it was part and parcel of firing their offensive coordinator this week. I think they're going to be much more dedicated to the run. And what that means is not just for Terrence west, but I think if they, if they had run the ball 10 more times, you wouldn't have seen, you know, Dixon only get a carry. They're going to have to use him. So the opportunity should be there for him to flash.
Mike Wright
Tough matchup.
Jason Moore
Now listen, the Ravens defense has been very good this year when it comes to yardage. You know, the. The Ravens are fourth against the run, fifth against the pass. They have been very good at preventing big plays. So is there a pass catcher on the Giants that you would feel comfortable starting outside of Ode? Beckham Jr. Dang it. Is that who you were going to.
Andy Holloway
I was totally going to go with Ode.
Jason Moore
You know, Cruz got shut out last week. Not a good game for Shepard. I don't think there is for me. Comfortable?
Mike Wright
No. But either. Are they startable? Yes. But you. I'd probably. I'd try to find a different option.
Jason Moore
All right.
Andy Holloway
If I had to pick one, it would be Shepard. But I, I completely agree. There's probably better.
Jason Moore
And we. Sorry.
Andy Holloway
I mean, who would you rather play? Sterling Shepard or Cameron Meredith?
Jason Moore
I would probably take a shot with Meredith.
Mike Wright
So would I. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
So that's. That's why we're saying you're probably not going to start now.
Jason Moore
We didn't mention him in, in and out. We should have Steve Smith.
Andy Holloway
Oh, he's out.
Jason Moore
All right. So C. Smith out. We Talked about Wallace. I think another opportunity is there for Perryman to have a better game, but not a fantasy relevant one. Let's move on to the Eagles and the Redskins. The over under in this game is 45. The Eagles are favored by two and a half points. Divisional battle, DeSean Jackson revenge game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Do you buy into that narrative? Do you think desean Jackson has a good game against the Philadelphia pass defense, ranked sixth in the league right now?
Mike Wright
I think it is very possible because you have. You had the blurb come out. Coach Gruden was saying we got to get to Sean Jackson the ball more. That's in. I feel like, I don't know if there's like someone has actually statistically done this, but when a coach says this guy has to get the ball, they get the ball. And then you, you factor that, you multiply that by Rule 86. Jordan Reed, I don't expect him to play. Have we got an update at all on Reed?
Andy Holloway
He's still in the concussion protocol, right?
Jason Moore
No update.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Jason Moore
It's not looking good, but yeah, I.
Mike Wright
Fully expect Reed not to play. So that boosts DeSean Jackson's value and you're taught the coach is already talking him up. Plus desean Jackson is the kind of guy I feel like wants to stick it to the Eagles. Even though it's not the. It's not Chip Kelly there anymore. He's still. It's. You get up. You get up to play your old team.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean he's going to have the opportunity to do it, but they are a very good defense with good corners and I think it's going to be difficult for him to really succeed. Especially considering the fact that without Rule 86, yeah, they might need to go to Desean Jackson more. But I think it hurts Kirk Cousins game quite a bit. That's his safety blanket. That's his, you know, first or second read on most plays. Without him there, you know, might be some tough sledding for Captain Kirk.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, based on the fantasy philosophy of staying in the flames or staying in the cold, so to speak. I mean, desean Jackson's had a couple bad games. Now he faces good defense. You can write the narrative that it's a revenge game. I don't start him. I think I'd rather start Cameron Meredith.
Andy Holloway
I wouldn't go that far. I would be willing to take the upside of DeSean Jackson over a Cam Meredith. But I do agree with you. I'm sitting him in my personal league and because he is so that's Only.
Mike Wright
You'Re the only team in that league.
Andy Holloway
Yes. It's my, it's my personal league. I'm undefeated.
Jason Moore
Wow.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Do you lead the league in points?
Andy Holloway
I do. And also my defense has been great. Shut out every opponent so far.
Jason Moore
Wow.
Andy Holloway
It's incredible.
Jason Moore
Wow.
Mike Wright
Points against very low.
Jason Moore
The Redskins defense has allowed 5.1 yards per carry, which is almost dead last in the league. This is why Ryan Matthews is Jason's start of the week. Let's talk about Zach Ertz and Carson Wentz. Are they startable quarterback, tight end this week?
Mike Wright
Yes. Okay. I think, look, Ertz was very disappointing, but Ertz is one of those guys that is. He's just one of a weekly start for me. You'll have highs and lows, but if I have him, I play him every week and it's a plus matchup for Carson Wentz. The Redskins are 21st against the pass, so it's, it's a situation where I'm still comfortable playing him. And as well as Jordan Matthews who has been after he came out on fire, has been a little bit disappointing. Before we move on to the Browns and the Titans, I want to thank today's sponsor, Mott and Bow jeans. Look, everyone.
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
Oh, that was great. I like the makeup kiss personally.
Mike Wright
I did.
Jason Moore
That was actually very fun as well. Done. All right. The Browns take on the Titans most exciting game of the week by far. Not really.
Andy Holloway
Whatever the over under is, you got to take the over, right?
Jason Moore
Are you being sarcastic?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
You were, like doubling down on my sarcasm and it confused me. The Browns, the Titans, Titan, seven point favorites at home. Look this. They've been a bit of a weird team this year. They had the upset over the Lions. Right. And they had a good game last week where Mario to. You know, I don't expect a repeat there despite these guys trying to make him my stream of the week.
Andy Holloway
Of the week.
Jason Moore
Which he's Not.
Andy Holloway
He sure is.
Jason Moore
But look, here's, here's the, here's the story, the fantasy, the fantasy tale when it comes to the Tennessee Titans in a world, in a world where you don't want to start anybody but you're very, very comfortable starting demarco Murray. Oh, demarco is an auto starting.
Mike Wright
I'm not comfortable. I am loving it. I am loving every minute of it.
Andy Holloway
DeMarco feels as good as those mountain bows.
Mike Wright
He certainly does.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Very nice. Honestly, though, I'm going out and I'm going to say that Marcus Mariota, I'm. I am fine streaming this week. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Mike Wright
There's other options. There's other options I prefer. But I agree that in a pinch, if you're a streamer and your options are really shallow, I think he's a fine play.
Jason Moore
Terrell Pryor busted out a couple of weeks ago with a huge game. They involved him in the running game. They involved him in the passing game. You know, he played three positions. I think they sent his jersey to the hall of Fame because of the numbers he had put up. But he's had some tough matchups.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And this is.
Jason Moore
He had New England and now he's got another one on the road against a Titans defense. That's really been good against the pass. I don't think I want to play Prior this week.
Mike Wright
I think that he's a, he's going to be on that fringe wide receiver two area.
Jason Moore
So a lot of people ask, you know, we give these comparisons with, with players at the same position, but you know, there are flex decisions being made every week. Let me give you one here. Would you rather play Terrell Pryor or Jonathan Stewart?
Andy Holloway
Stewart. Stewart. Stewart.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I knew that was coming after you both said it that way. Did. So you feel very confident in Stewart being able to put up numbers?
Mike Wright
Yes, I do.
Jason Moore
Okay, let me give you another choice here with Terrell Pryor because I think a lot of people went out and paid for him. I told people to do that and I'm very comfortable with him.
Andy Holloway
I'm fine starting Prior. I mean, honestly, the reason that I didn't choose Prior, there is not an indic. Is not indicative of what I think of Prior. It's. I really like Jonathan Stewart this week.
Mike Wright
I'll give you a couple names.
Jason Moore
We both have Prior, by the way, at. When I say we, I mean me and you, Jason. We have them right at the fringe of wide receiver 2, 3. So that's definitely start flexworthy.
Mike Wright
I'll give you a couple.
Jason Moore
Mike has him buried.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he might have to come up a little bit for me, but here you go. Prior or Chris Hogan?
Jason Moore
Oh, prior.
Mike Wright
Prior Or Mike Wallace?
Jason Moore
I would, I think I'd take Wallace this week.
Mike Wright
Prior or Robert Woods?
Andy Holloway
Prior.
Jason Moore
Oh, you know, I'm going to take Robert woods at home. I think I will.
Mike Wright
And I got one more, one last one because it's disgusting. But this is a guy we were talking about.
Jason Moore
No, I lied about that one. By the way. It's Prior. It's Prior over Woods.
Mike Wright
All right, take the antacid real quick.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Andy Holloway
Are you going.
Jason Moore
Are you going to bring up Julio Jones?
Mike Wright
No. No.
Andy Holloway
Devontae Adams?
Mike Wright
No Terrell Pryor or Kenny Britt?
Andy Holloway
Oh, you know what, I'm going Terrell.
Mike Wright
Pryor in A plus matchup.
Andy Holloway
I'm going Terrell Pryor. However, what you are bringing up, we'll.
Mike Wright
Get to him when we do the matchup. I just wanted to check him out.
Andy Holloway
Here's the thing with Terrell Pryor and then we can move past him. You know, he came out and was on fire. Like you said. That first game, 8 for 144. The second game against Washington, he caught 5 for about 50. He got the touchdown that game. And then last game he got another five receptions for another 50 yards. No touchdown. But you got to keep in mind Cody Kessler went out, you know, Clipboard Jesus came in. Yeah, I mean that, that was not.
Mike Wright
And he can't do that anymore.
Jason Moore
He's not on the team because he's.
Andy Holloway
Not on the team. So you know, there were other circumstances that made that game a little difficult for Terrell Pryor. I don't expect a huge blow up game, but I think he's still the centerpiece of the office.
Jason Moore
Need to get through this matchup. You comfortable with Crowell and Barnage?
Andy Holloway
No Barnage. Yes.
Mike Wright
Crowell. I'm still okay playing him.
Jason Moore
So you were disappointed in last week clearly by that.
Mike Wright
Yeah, but I mean you kind of knew that was coming. But I, I don't expect the Titans. While I think that they're. Mariota is a fine play. I can't see a world where the Titans just destroy them like the Patriots did. So Crowell will still be involved.
Jason Moore
Chiefs Raiders. Chiefs Raiders. Very excited about this game. Has a very. You are. I am.
Andy Holloway
I think it's going to be a great game.
Jason Moore
Divisional game, the 4 and 1 Raiders. The Chiefs, you know, with the way they finished last year, they have Charles back coming off the bye. I mean, you remember Andy Reid in the bye week, right?
Mike Wright
Yeah. I do, but give that over.
Jason Moore
Under 39 and a half. I'll take the over.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
I mean, I will, I'll take the over. Derek Carr has been on fire. He's the third ranked fantasy quarterback. Right now they're at home against the Chiefs. Coming in there, I think this game is going to be higher scoring than expected here.
Mike Wright
Very possible. I, I think that they, I would take the over because it's 39 and a half.
Jason Moore
But I mean, look, the Raiders are the 20, 32nd ranked past D, 27th rank, run D. They don't stop anybody. The Chiefs are coming off that atrocious performance in Pittsburgh getting just boat raced and I don't expect that out of them at all in this game. But you cannot lock down Cooper and Crabtree. They have a weak offside, you know, weak corner on the second wide receiver. I think this is an opportunity for this game to get up there. I certainly think that this is a game that I would start Jeremy Macklin in, I would start Travis Kelsey in and I think I have Smith kind of middle of the road in this.
Andy Holloway
Matchup in this game because there's one strong corner, one weak corner. Who is it going to be between Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree? Who would you rather start? You got both on your, on your roster for that, that last spot.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I take Cooper and I'll tell you why. It's not necessarily based on which corner covers who on which play. It's based on the fact that it looked like the Chiefs were very, very vulnerable on deep passes in that Pittsburgh game. They didn't, whatever it was, their zone coverage, they could not cover the deep ball. And Cooper's going to get downfield more often than Crabtree will. So I like both wide receivers in this game. I think they're auto starts right now. I mean they're 1A, 1B and you can flip a coin week to week, you know, four touchdowns starts, four touchdowns is what Cooper could have had last week. So I have Cooper very high this week. He's my number nine wide receiver. And Crabtrees, I have him in the wide receiver too.
Mike Wright
I do as well. I in the same, almost identical positions.
Jason Moore
Now if Murray misses, are you more comfortable playing Jalen Richard or Washington?
Andy Holloway
DeAndre Washington, it's certainly Washington. They're going to split the workload, maybe even 50, 50. But I think that Washington is the more talented back and I would rather have him. He's also been slightly more involved in the passing game, so he's safer games.
Jason Moore
Even with, even with Last week, Rashard outperforming him by a good amount.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah, that would be my. Just from what I've seen on the year, I think both guys look pretty good, but I would rather have DeAndre Washington.
Jason Moore
Now, there was some news that came out yesterday out of Kansas City with the offensive coordinator basically saying, look, we're going to sprinkle Charles into the offense wherever it's best for us. You know, I made Charles and I started the week yesterday and that was not on the basis of RB1 numbers. I'm still comfortable streaming Jamal Charles because he doesn't take a lot from Jamal Charles to give you flex numbers. But it doesn't make me excited to hear the offensive coordinator and Andy Reid kind of speak differently than Charles does. I think this is going to be a little bit of game script here. If they get ahead and it's not on the back of Charles, I don't know why they would use Charles is kind of what I'm saying. I think it's going to be Spencer Ware grinding the clock out if they do take a lead in this game. So that's my only concern with Charles.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I have far more concerns with Charles than I think either of you two guys. I said a week ago, I think it's going to be several weeks before he's really fantasy impact relevant. This is going to be the, this is going to be the game where we get to see one of us is going to be right as far as his involvement in the game. But that's where I just don't want to take that start while we're finding out what the truth is. I'm the more risk adverse type of guy. And if you have Charles, presumably you've had other players to plug in to start in his stead. So I would continue doing that.
Jason Moore
Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. The Cowboys take on the packers. Somebody on our YouTube channel yesterday. So we never, we intentionally never talk about the Packers.
Andy Holloway
So let's continue that. Let's talk about.
Jason Moore
Well, we talked about Lacey already, so I don't think we have to cover that situation.
Andy Holloway
Love the Packers.
Mike Wright
Of course.
Jason Moore
Of course. Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers. What do we do fantasy wise with the quarterback position? I know Rodgers is in, he's always in. But Dak Prescott is, you know, he's traveling up to Green Bay, hasn't been friendly lately to Mr. Eli Manning. So can we really expect a lot out of Dak Prescott this week?
Mike Wright
I like him. I named him my stream of the week because I think that the Cowboys are A far different team than the Giants. The Cowboys can actually run the ball. They have one of, one of the best running backs in the league because Ezekiel Elliott is in fact leading the league in average yards per game. Almost 110 yards per game on the ground. While I think that's a. This is a tough play for Elliott, he's an auto start. But going up against the first ranked packers defense, that is, that is a very difficult situation. I think Elliot can still get it done. But back to Dak Prescott because of that, the Green Bay passing defense is, is not strong though. The 24th ranked Sam Shields is out.
Jason Moore
Again, by the way. Who knows when he returns. Man, Sam, he's in trouble. He could miss the year.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's, that is situation. Poor Shields. But I mean that, that opens things up for the passing game when, when you had last week, the packers put everything into, into past defense and that's how they shut down the Giants because the Giants can't run the ball. You can't do that to the Cowboys or Elliott's going to run wild. So I think Dak Prescott with. He doesn't make mistakes. You've had DEZ Bryant practicing all week.
Jason Moore
He might say. I think he might des. Bryant plays in and out. I would say Bryant plays.
Andy Holloway
I would as well. I statted Bryant in this game already with that packers run deep.
Mike Wright
I'll say. But I mean, which is great. Then they'll have their number two wide receiver back.
Andy Holloway
You talk about Cole Beasley?
Mike Wright
Cole Beasley?
Andy Holloway
Come on, man.
Mike Wright
Number one wide receiver of my life.
Jason Moore
It's weird. What?
Andy Holloway
These bearded men, they just pick up on weird things.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And then claim them as.
Mike Wright
I know.
Andy Holloway
Like it's like, oh, nobody's, nobody's put a flag in him. I claim him.
Mike Wright
I mean his, you know, like really good statistics and fantasy numbers every week. That's super weird.
Andy Holloway
All right, well, hey, you know what?
Mike Wright
Maybe as long as Dak is the quarterback, Beasley is a good play.
Andy Holloway
All right, let's talk really quick, more in depth about The Ezekiel Elliott vs. The packers run D. Because this is fascinating to me. You have one of, if not the best offensive line in the league. The best or one of the best running games in the league.
Jason Moore
Something's got a kid.
Andy Holloway
But the packers, you look at it on paper, they've given up one touchdown on the ground the entire year. They have not given up 50 yards rushing on the entire year. That 46, 35, 47 and 42. However, look at the teams they've done that against. Okay. They did it in week two against Minnesota, who is a run first team. But we've seen all year that Minnesota has not.
Mike Wright
And Peter Peterson got knocked out of the game.
Andy Holloway
The other three teams are Jacksonville, they're known for not being able to run the ball against anybody. Detroit, not being able to run the ball against anybody. And the New York Giants, not able to run the ball against anybody. So maybe the Green Bay monster running defense is a little bit of a facade that could be shattered this week by the Cowboys.
Jason Moore
Well, what is the. What is the stat for Ezekiel elliott? He's averaging 109 rushing yards a game, number one in the league.
Andy Holloway
It's all right.
Jason Moore
So something's got to give. That's an interesting take on the packers run D. You know, I think I'd feel better about that if it was in Dallas, certainly. But look, Ezekiel, it's been great. It keeps the defense so honest and gives Dak the chance to succeed. I'm excited about this game. And look, Vegas has it at a 47 point over under. That's very high. So I think they're expecting points on the board.
Mike Wright
So let's talk packers pass catchers.
Jason Moore
Sure. Yeah, let's. Let's close that.
Mike Wright
Jordan Nelson is a must start every single week.
Jason Moore
I think he scored every week this, this year.
Mike Wright
I believe that's correct.
Andy Holloway
If he hasn't scored a single touchdown in a week, he has scored two.
Jason Moore
Right? Yeah. And actually what they do, the NFL will extend the game if he hasn't gotten one by the end.
Mike Wright
Randall Cobb finally came back to life.
Jason Moore
Got crushed.
Mike Wright
Well, yeah, I mean, he got at.
Andy Holloway
The very end of the game.
Mike Wright
I've been his fantasy production. He had a very strong game. I think he's going to play.
Andy Holloway
He had that really nice route down the seam for the touchdown that was also called back on an irrelevant penalty.
Jason Moore
Oh, they call that a CJ penalty.
Mike Wright
An old Lindberger. Devonte Adams.
Jason Moore
Lindberger.
Mike Wright
Lindberger.
Jason Moore
Cheese. Oh, my gosh.
Mike Wright
Look, he got it done. He's getting it done.
Jason Moore
Great catch on that touchdown.
Andy Holloway
He is a good wide receiver. 3. And that's kind of when coming into.
Jason Moore
The season, it's all the pressure, man. You take the pressure off of him and he doesn't make those mistakes.
Andy Holloway
But what do you do against the Cowboys? Against Cowboys D here because are they going to be able to replicate what they did last week against the Giants? Here's the thing. Aaron Rodgers, if you watch that game, Aaron Rodgers had five seconds to throw the ball every single play. And they had no pass rush. And it took five seconds to find an open receiver play after play after play.
Mike Wright
That's true. But you know who does not have a pass rush? Dallas Cowboys. So I love. I'm fine with all the. I'm fine with all three of the.
Jason Moore
Past catchers for Cameron Meredith or Devonte Adams?
Andy Holloway
Meredith.
Mike Wright
I'll go Meredith.
Jason Moore
All right. The Falcons take on the Seahawks. We talked about the weather in this game. You need to monitor that a little bit. Mostly just to temper, I guess. You're already tempering all your expectations for Atlanta pass catchers in this game. So maybe it doesn't even matter because I'm not starting Matt Ryan in Seattle. I'm not starting. You know, you have to start Julio Jones because he's Julio Jones. I mean, he will beat the coverage and he will make you mad if you don't play him. But I have him buried. I mean, I have him down, down my ranking list because I just don't think you're going to see the kind of performance that he's capable of because there's a cap there in Seattle.
Andy Holloway
There are a few teams that I have recommended this week to sit Julio. Whoa, you have. I mean, if you have the other options, let me ask you this, because this was like a cusp guy for me. Who would you start if you could only start one? Alshon Jeffrey or Julio Jones?
Jason Moore
That is a tough question. The answer for me is Julio Jones.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's.
Andy Holloway
See, and the answer for me was Alshon. So that was the form of a roster where I decided to sit Julio because that was their worst of the. You know, they had other great wide receivers.
Mike Wright
That's brutal, man.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I mean, it's tough. You got to make those decisions.
Jason Moore
All right. Devonta Freeman, Tevin Coleman. Mike, I heard you on the radio yesterday. The question being asked was, are both of these guys fantasy start worthy rest of season? Is there a world where that exists?
Mike Wright
Yes. The answer is yes. For me, Freeman is the better of the two. But Coleman, Coleman just continues to get it done. And let me.
Jason Moore
Let me ask you something. Is it better to think about Freeman and Coleman like you would, I don't know, Lacy and Cobb in the sense that, like, treat Coleman in your mind less like a running back, more like a slot receiver? Because what happens is people, they look at the workload of Freeman and Coleman and they say you can't have value because they're both sharing a position. But are they really?
Mike Wright
Yeah. And that's what I was going to say is they're such A key cog to, to this offense. The reason they were able to just beat the crap out of Denver is because they have fast running backs and they knew that that was the weakness. They could attack the linebackers for Denver, use the speed of the running backs. It wouldn't shock me if they try to go with an almost identical game plan against the Seahawks. I'm not sure if it will work as well, but when you have to, when a team has to be worried about Julio Jones and running backs that, that are great runners and great pass catchers, it's almost unstoppable. And that's. And now because Freeman has Coleman, Freeman can stay very fresh. We don't have to see him get worn down like he did last year. He can stay, you know, 100% during the game. And so I like both of them. Coleman getting the pass plays and the fact that he's the, the goal line running back, the opportunities are going to be there. So I. Wow. I said Freeman is the better start for me. Coleman is still in every week consideration.
Andy Holloway
So are you saying this week against Seattle, in Seattle that the backup running back Tevin Coleman, who's had a couple monster breakaway receptions that have made him fantasy relevant that you are starting him this week?
Mike Wright
I am.
Andy Holloway
I am on record opposed.
Jason Moore
We've got another something's got to give situation for Matt Ryan too. I mean, he's got the best passer rating in the league of 121.6 and the Seahawks defense has allowed a pass rating of just 60. So, you know, I again, this is that situation where I. Do you think I said I doubted Ryan last week against Denver. Was I right or wrong?
Mike Wright
Wrong.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
And the reason is the running backs.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I was going to say the reason you don't have Kevin Coleman got 132 yards.
Jason Moore
Maybe a lot of times we have running backs that are pass catchers and you say that gives them that baseline. If he can dump the ball to these running backs, that gives Matt Ryan more baseline.
Andy Holloway
You know, and I will say this, I completely agree. If, if Tevin Coleman can produce 132 yards and a touchdown on four receptions again, then yeah, you can go ahead and trust Matt Ryan.
Jason Moore
I think Mike is just saying, hey, it's time to jump into the flames regardless of the matchup on the other side of the ball. We have a lot of these starts of the week here. Mike had Kristen Michael as the start of the week at running back.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Jimmy Graham was Jason start of the week correct at the tight end position. And then Mike, I noticed you have Doug Baldwin as your number two overall.
Mike Wright
He's actually gone very down since there so you very down it would he compared to number two.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So where is Doug Baldwin in your guys mind Coming off the by Russell Wilson. They said he's completely healthy now.
Mike Wright
I at home in a half point I have bumped him down to 16. I did not factor in the or I said completely factor in true fonts. I don't know what the what that cornerback situation is going to be since Doug Baldwin, you know he's a more of a slot guy. Will. Will Trufont actually be covering him? But I just, I pulled him down a little bit. Plus you have the weather concerns also a factor now.
Jason Moore
All right, we're moving on Sunday night football. The Colts, the Texans and my.
Andy Holloway
Andy's almost upset of the week.
Jason Moore
The Texans are favored by three points. I think they lose this game or almost lose this game. I really do.
Mike Wright
Which one is it Andy?
Jason Moore
I really believe it. Okay. I was gone. I heard somebody give me credit for last week.
Andy Holloway
You're welcome.
Jason Moore
Every time that my almost upset is actually one it's been by one point.
Mike Wright
And that's not an almost upset.
Jason Moore
It is.
Andy Holloway
That is.
Jason Moore
It is just fine, Mike. It is just fine.
Mike Wright
You guys are crazy.
Jason Moore
All right, so the Colts, the Texans. Let's talk about this game. We have Brock Osweiler that looks like he is struggling and it is hurting DeAndre Hopkins. What do you do with DeAndre Hopkins rest of season?
Mike Wright
Rest of season. I think he's still a fine play. He. But you're knowing when there's going to be upside. It's going to be based on the matchup. Fortunately for DeAndre Hopkins, the Indianapolis Colts are the 28th ranked 28th in past defense. They have been just getting destroyed all over the place. Texans at home, Osweiler at home. I like Hopkins a lot this week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. If you want to cure you know what ails your offense, you play one of those teams that consistently gives up passing yards, running yards, touchdowns.
Mike Wright
You take the schedule, you alter it up.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, there you go. Playing the Colts at home. I agree. Vegas has this as one of the higher over under games this week at 48 points. I think there's going to be a lot of fantasy production. I am fine with Hopkins this week. I think rest of season. I am not convinced that Hopkins is a wide receiver. One, I think he is more of a high end wide receiver. 2 or if he's a wide receiver one, he's not a top five guy. I just don't think Brock Osweiler can get it done. And the emergence of Will Fuller kind of eats into Hopkins being just that monster percentage of targets.
Jason Moore
I think we talked about Justin, not Justin Forset, Philip Dorsett earlier in the week in the fact that, look, I'm, I'm off of Dorsett as any type of stream worthy guy. The reception quantity isn't there. You're basically just waiting to see if Andrew Luck can get the ball over the top to him one time in a game and I'm not willing to deal with that. Especially against the Texans past the at home. That's number one in the league. I think Andrew Luck is fine to start this week. I think he's an every week start at the quarterback position. One of the few.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean it is a tougher matchup for sure. But the thing that's nice about for Andrew Luck is that Ty Hilton, over the course of his career has been a Texans destroyer. He just, he seems to get up and play consistently very well in these particular matchups. We'll see if that continues this week. I would say that it does.
Jason Moore
Starter sit Will Fuller in this game start okay. The Colts are very bad against the pass and it's in Houston. I think this is the week where Fuller can get back on track. 48 point over under in this game. That's a lot of points.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
So what if, what if at the end of this game, lamar Miller has 48 yards and puts up a stinker against the Indianapolis Colts?
Jason Moore
Another gooser in the touchdown category. You go six games, no touchdowns and.
Andy Holloway
This game is, you know, one of those let's cure the ailments.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Right now he's 3.6 a carry on the year.
Mike Wright
If, if he comes out and stinks in this game, then I will actually be concerned. But much like my Alshon Jeffrey proclamation, he's going to score. Lamar Miller will score this week. You know, I'm putting it out there into the universe.
Andy Holloway
I think that, you know, I asked the question because I'm a Lamar Miller owner. It stinks right now that he hasn't done more with his opportunity. But I'm realizing that if he comes out and stinks, I'm still going to believe. I don't think there's anything that can happen, barring injury that's going to get me off of it. So either I'm incorrectly biased or I just believe the volume trumps.
Mike Wright
It's like, it's like Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon. I tweeted out Last night after the big run, I saw that Melvin Gordon getting what's blocked since 2015. Because that's what he gets.
Jason Moore
I mean, he should have scored on that 48 yarder.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
He couldn't cut back on one player.
Mike Wright
Do you know on wars, here's the numbers for Melvin Gordon. One rush for 48 yards or 26 rushes for 46 yards. So. And that that huge run was the Denver defense completely screwed up. But my point is just Melvin Gordon is still safe because the volume is there.
Jason Moore
27 carries.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Wow.
Mike Wright
Because there's nobody else there. And that's the same thing for Lamar Miller at every week the volume will be there. Throw the Minnesota game out. That's the outlier of the season.
Jason Moore
Let me ask you this, Mike. Lamar Miller or CJ Anderson? Rest of season? After what you said about CJ earlier.
Mike Wright
Today, I still like Anderson, but it's Miller. It's for me.
Jason Moore
Okay. Monday Night Football game. Mike and I will be there.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
On hand. Now, I need to take a minute here and I'm going to explain something that I hate about what happened yesterday. I've got a matchup in our league of record.
Mike Wright
Big one.
Jason Moore
A big one gets a good team. And this, this other team had Matthew Stafford at quarterback. I have Derek Carr. And yesterday morning these two hooligans across from me allowed him to sign Carson Palmer.
Andy Holloway
What?
Jason Moore
Yes. I'm blaming you.
Mike Wright
You could have picked him up.
Jason Moore
I know. So look in the mirror, my friend. But look, now I have to go to Monday Night Football. My home team is the Cardinals and my opponent has not only the Cardinals starting quarterback, but the Cardinals defense. What the crap am I supposed to do?
Mike Wright
You take your loss like a man and you cheer for the Cardinals.
Jason Moore
I know I have to, but man, that stinks, man. Like I need to go trade the farm for Palmer to sit on my bench so I can enjoy this game more.
Mike Wright
I didn't realize he had the defense.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it's ridiculous. And the Cardinals defense has been great.
Andy Holloway
And I think this is a great matchup for the Cardinals defense. You've got Ryan Pitts. Patrick picks Patrick. Look, with Eric Decker gone and Brandon Marshall having the Patrick Peterson effect, I don't see the jets being able to get a lot going this week against the Arizona Cardinals. They're going to be force feeding that ball to Brandon Marshall. I see at least one slip pick in that game.
Jason Moore
Slip pick?
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Where? Brandon. Brandon Marshall's been sliding all over this year. He's just been slipping a lot.
Jason Moore
Okay. And I'm So he falls down.
Andy Holloway
He falls down. Patrick Peterson.
Mike Wright
He should wear a cleat.
Jason Moore
I've never heard of fantasy. You slip pick projection before. That's what we bring you here.
Andy Holloway
Very specific breaking news.
Jason Moore
So here's a question. Do you think it's worth a cursory ad of Austin Safari and Jenkins this week? Because.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Decker now on ir. Would you rather take a chance with ASJ or Ladarius Green coming off of, you know, in a week?
Mike Wright
I would go green in that situation.
Andy Holloway
I would as well, but that's what.
Jason Moore
I did this morning.
Andy Holloway
Both are worth looking at and holding on to because while we're in this game, ASJ has been involved. Right. Brandon Marshall's taking him under the wing. There's never ever been a question of Austin Safari and Jenkins pass catching ability. He was drafted to be a pass catching tight end. It was his attitude and his practice and things like that that got him the boot from Tampa Bay.
Mike Wright
Insulting people's moms on Twitter.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean he is a doofus. Not recommended, but with Eric Decker down, I think that Austin's Ferrian Jenkins will be involved and he'll be involved almost more like a wide receiver.
Jason Moore
About time they had a tight end that could catch the ball there and actually run routes.
Andy Holloway
What does that say about Jason Morrow?
Mike Wright
It means I'll see you tomorrow.
Andy Holloway
Means he's no good.
Jason Moore
All right, here's the thing about the Jets. The defense has been terrible against the past 31st against the pass, they give up 12.9 yards per completion. This is why Mike loves. Oh yeah, John Brown loves John Brown.
Mike Wright
I love the Palmer John Brown stack this week. Love it.
Jason Moore
All right. You're starting Forte.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
It's not excited.
Mike Wright
The thing about the running backs is it's a bad matchup for both of them. David Johnson is going up against. This could be the toughest run defense he's faced. But why David Johnson becomes so safe, it's because he's not in for two downs and can get game scripted out. If they can't run the ball, he stays in. He gets everything because he's a great pass catcher. This is why David Johnson is an every week start and has no matchup that is too large for him.
Jason Moore
Yeah, yeah. I think you, I mean David Johnson's a must start. So you just have to see if he can overcome that run D with his passing numbers. So.
Mike Wright
And for the jets running backs, Forte, if you got him, you, you start him. But things are trending that they're just, you just need to adjust what you expect from Matt Forte? Hopefully he can catch a couple passes for you. Blal Powell is, is flashing again.
Chris Meaney
Wow.
Mike Wright
We said the mark of the beast, right? Because the straight three games of six receptions. So it was that wow for something.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I wanted to check. I was curious. I was, I was going to ask you guys like, who do you think has a better game here fantasy wise between Forte and blow Powell? And then I thought, I wonder who I have. I went and looked and I was surprised. I actually have Powell in PPR formats ahead of Matt Forte in this game.
Mike Wright
Because that's good because he's outscored Forte in the past three games in PPR formats.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean it's, it's one of those things that, you know, owners need to be aware of. I think Powell is a startable player in a PPR this week. You can beat the Arizona Cardinals in that screen game while they're so blitz happy.
Jason Moore
Before we get into the daily Dose, I have a few bits of not necessarily breaking news, but updates on what we said earlier because we're recording this on Friday morning. Steve Smith. Steve Smith did miss practice again. I'm sure he's going to be out. Theo Riddick missed again on Friday and so that is not, you know, he could play without practice, but that's not a good sign. And then Jason Garrett came out and said he is not so sure that Des Bryant will play in Week 6 against the Packers. And so very questionable does Bryant.
Mike Wright
So if, I don't know if we actually answered this question. If Des Bryant plays, are you taking that risk and starting him?
Andy Holloway
I probably am.
Jason Moore
No, I don't think. I think if you're a team right now, that is, that needs a wide receiver, that's okay. But I think you've probably made arrangements on your roster since Des has been out for most of the season that I probably give him another week. I mean, if he's active, yeah, I probably don't do it.
Mike Wright
I'd prefer to give him the other week, but I would flex him for sure.
Jason Moore
Dwayne Washington, by the way, for the Lions did return to practice. Really, you would expect a Dwayne Washington Justin for set timeshare in that backfield this weekend. If Theo Riddick is off the field and if Riddick is, you know, even if he's limited, you're probably going to see all three of those guys on the field. You know, not too excited, but you know, you can take a waiver wire shot in the dark on one of them. So we're Going to go ahead and get into the Daily Dose. Talk some dfs, some fan duel, some guys that you can start this week. Maybe some good values.
Mike Wright
Absolutely.
Andy Holloway
The Daily Dose.
Mike Wright
The fantasy footballers are very excited to bring back Chris Meaney, fresh from his vacation, tearing it up there for the Fantasy sports Network. How are you doing today, Chris?
Chris Meaney
Good, guys. Thanks for having me. Not a good time to take vacation here like week five of the season, but I'm back. I'm ready to rock.
Mike Wright
Well, I hope you're refreshed. I hope those that your football brain is firing on all cylinders because we're going to talk some fanduel picks. Let's start at the top. Let's start with the quarterback. You paying up? Are you. Are you cheaping out? What are you doing?
Chris Meaney
Well, last week I paid up for Brady, but it was a bit of a discount. He was under $8,000. This week he's the most expensive quarterback, but I have no problems rolling him out there. You're just gonna have to find some value elsewhere. I'm sure we'll talk about a couple guys, but Brady at the top. $9,000. I know big Ben struggles a little bit away from home. I know he only put. They only put up three points. I believe in Philadelphia that one road game. But I have no problem with Big Ben when those three guys, the Triple B's, Ben, Bell and Brown, they're the last three years when all three of them are playing Pittsburgh, they just roll their 11 games over 500 compared to only one over 500. One of them is missing. So I have no problem with Big Ben down the list. You can save some money, though. Drew Brees is $8,500. The six most expensive quarterback. Carolina can't stop anybody. Russell Wilson coming out off the buy at home against Atlanta. That's not bad. I think that could be a sneaky play too where not a lot of people would play him. So it's not a bad tournament play. And then Bortles down the list. $7,800 against Chicago. This seems like a good matchup. I know he struggles away from home on the road. I believe he only has like one win in the last year or so on the road, but I do like him that spot. And then Carson Wentz is not bad at $7,500 too, in Washington. I don't mind those. Those plays you can cheap up a little, cheap out a little bit at the quarterback position. But certainly Brady, he deserves to be right at the top.
Mike Wright
Love it. Let's move over to the running back position. How are you handling yourself when it comes to running backs?
Chris Meaney
Well, Bell, Murray, McCoy, they just all seem just so safe. Every week I see I just roll out Murray and I just. I get exactly what I've gotten from him for week one. It's just consistency. He's second league in touches. He just gets it done every single week. I like this matchup a lot. Elliott's got a bit of a tough one against Green Bay. They're only allowing 2.0 yards per carry. That's the best in football. So it's interesting to see how he's going to turn out. This has to be a Lamar Miller week, doesn't it, guys? I mean, he hasn't scored yet. I mean, let's see it from Lamar Miller against the Colts. He's still getting a lot of touches and opportunity and he's still getting fantasy points. Double digits every time out, but let's see him get in the end zone. I think this is finally the week. $7,900. Jamal Charles says he's 110% training camp. The training wheels are off of him. He's ready to go against Oakland. I don't think he's going to get a lot of carries, but I do expect like seven to eight targets from this guy and lot of people could shy away from him. I think he's a good tournament play. Ingram back to back games now with a touchdown. What I like about Ingram, just coming off, I know they're coming off a buy, but in the last game he had a receiving touchdown. He's got 10 receptions, 13 targets in his last two games. I mean, Carolina, they're just having issues stopping anybody. Sticking with maybe just sneaky plays that not a lot of people are going to play in tournaments. Brian Matthews, $6,500 against Washington. I know he had a fumble. This is a really good matchup for him, though. And James White, $5,700 against Cincy. 10.9 FanDuel points last week. Six targets, four catches. That's what you're going to get from White. As long as Deon Lewis is not around, he's going to be involved in that passing game. That's what you want on FanDuel.
Mike Wright
Love it. Moving over to the wide receivers. Are you. Are you crazy enough to start Julio Jones? Are you going to pay up for that stud this week against Seattle?
Chris Meaney
No, absolutely not. I'm not going to do it. I know he's dinged up a little bit. We saw what Denver was able to do. Just take him away. I expect the same thing. Seattle, I believe they've only given up touchdown through the year. This is not a good matchup for Julio and the Falcons. But I'm going to pay up even higher than him. $8,600 compared to 85 Alan Robinson. I like this a lot. I like Bortles and Robinson against Chicago. I'm willing to pay up there and then. And then Calvin Benjamin been a bit quiet lately, but Cam Newton expected to come back $7,800. The Saints just continue to pick on this team. They're not very good. And Baldwin same thing with Atlanta secondary a little bit shaky. They're giving up a lot of points at quarterbacks and wide receivers. I like put Doug Baldwin in there and just sticking with that New Orleans and Carolina game. Cooks a little bit more expensive than Snead. You're going to save $500 if you want to go Snead. Michael Thomas is the guy who leads that team and catches $5,400. You're going to save some money there. Again, just continuing down the list. I think some sneaky plays in tournaments. Funches hasn't been. He's been invisible really. He's got one touchdown but he hasn't got a whole lot of looks him check if coach is going to play. Big Ben is taking deep shots all the time with this guy. He's basically like Martavis Bryant 2.0 in terms of just taking shots. He's very speedy. I know he drops half those balls but the other ones he's reeling them in for touchdowns. Hogan much of the same thing. Brady is just taking deep shots. And then this could be a Kamara Aiken week, guys.
Jason Moore
Yeah, finally.
Chris Meaney
We've been waiting to see Kamara Akin. I mean he's only got a handful of targets, six catches. So the Giants have just had issues covering everybody in the slot. We saw Randall Cobb finally have a week last week. I think Aiken could step into this role. I know Wallace is still practicing with a non contact jersey. Steve Smith probably not going to suit up in this game. So it could be Aiken. $5200. In the flip side, I'm going to roll out Paramount in tournaments as well. $4,900. I think it's worth a shot.
Mike Wright
All right. For the tight end, let me give you one name. I want to see if you have the madness if you're willing to start this guy in the tournament. Let's say Jordan Reed is out. Are you going Niles Paul in that situation?
Chris Meaney
I don't Know, I don't think in a tournament play. Why not? I mean, you can certainly do that. No read.
Jason Moore
Absolutely.
Chris Meaney
But in a cash game, you want to be a little bit more safer. Of course you're sitting there. Greg Olson sitting at the top, averaging 16.4 fantasy points per game on FanDuel. $8,100 against the Saints. That just seems too easy. But I mean down the list a little bit. Colby Fleener, 56 Pitta. He's really cheap against the Giants. I mentioned just covering in the slot. Zach Ertz. There's something there with Zach Ertz in Washington. And I know Chip Kelly was the coach there for the past couple years, but his last three games against the Redskins, 38 targets and 30 receptions for Zach Ertz. That's crazy. And in one of those games was only three receptions. So there might be something there. Philadelphia has seen something with Zach Ertz and against that Redskins secondary, I know it's a little bit different, some changes there, but even Norman is not that healthy and he won't be covering a lot of Zachary. So I think there's something there. But I think you're on something as well. I mean, if there's no read, why not save up at the tight end position has been pretty mediocre this season. And that's the. That's the bare minimum. $4,500.
Mike Wright
All right. We do not have the auto start that is the Minnesota Vikings here on defense. You got a couple quick plays.
Chris Meaney
How good have the Vikings been, guys?
Mike Wright
Outrageous.
Chris Meaney
Yeah, that defense is ferocious. It's so nice. But I mean up at the top, I mean, the Steelers. 4800 against Miami. That's not. You're going to save a little bit more. I know Buffalo is the same price against San Fran. 4800. Tennessee, $4700. I think you just have to spend up at D. I mean, people getting too cute. But you've been rolling out the Vikings week in and week out. And if you've been rolling them out, you most likely been successful in all your lineups. So continue to spend up. I don't mind wash. I don't mind Philly. $4,500 against Washington. I know Kirk Cousins is a lot better at home, but that defense has been pretty good in Philadelphia. Continue. I think they'll continue that as well.
Mike Wright
There you have it. Chris Meaney, the DFS machine, getting it done. No more martinis because he's back from vacation. Giving you some good FanDuel tips and some good plays this week. Thank you so much, my friend. We will speak to you again.
Chris Meaney
Hey, my pleasure, guys. Have a good week.
Jason Moore
All right. Thanks to Chris Meaney again for joining us today from the Fantasy Sports Network. Talking some dfs. Remember, there are DFS articles, including Ben Cummins picks on the website the fantasy footballers.com and if you haven't jumped into FanDuel, you can do so@fanduel.com footballers and get some free entries that way. Thanks everybody that's supporting the show over@jointhefoot.com everybody that's writing in supporting us each and every day. We appreciate everything you've done for this podcast, all the reviews, things like that. And we will be back. Mike will be on Periscope live Sunday.
Mike Wright
Please join me on Sunday morning for the weekly Periscope. It is a ton of fun.
Jason Moore
It is. And there's always, I'll say this to your credit, Mike, there's always two or three nuggets every single Sunday morning that, you know, whether we don't have the news yet, things that have trended in a certain direction. Sunday morning is great to tune in on on Periscope because Mike, you know, last week he pumped up Sammy Coates. Two weeks ago he pumped up Steve Smith, both before huge performances that were weak, defining for you if you played those guys. So to his credit, you know, you're pretty smart. What is smart?
Mike Wright
What is happening?
Jason Moore
Smart guy there. So that is it on today's show. We'll see you next week.
Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 6 Matchups, Daily Dose, In-or-Out
Release Date: October 14, 2016
The episode kicks off with host Andy Holloway promoting the show's merchandise at shopballers.com, offering a 10% discount using the promo code "ballers" (00:00). The trio—Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright—engage in playful banter about Jason's delayed introduction, likening it to a recurring "holding penalty" in football (00:35 - 01:05).
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around C.J. Anderson’s performance and the impact of penalties on his fantasy value. Jason Moore highlights the frustration with Anderson having three major plays called back due to penalties, which he estimates cost him 18 additional points in his league (02:10 - 02:23). Mike Wright corroborates, noting that the penalties were unrelated to Anderson’s plays (02:39).
Andy Holloway debates whether to continue holding onto Anderson, considering the penalties and garbage time benefits. He concludes that Anderson is not a top-tier running back and might be traded if good value is available (06:04 - 08:24). Mike Wright, however, defends Anderson’s snap percentage and his crucial role during crunch time, indicating he remains a valuable asset (08:30 - 08:40).
The hosts move into their "In-or-Out" segment, discussing the availability and starter status of various players:
The hosts dive deep into Week 6 matchups, providing detailed fantasy analysis and recommendations:
Chris Meaney joins the podcast to provide Daily Dose insights, focusing on Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS) picks:
The podcast wraps up with reflections on player performances, upcoming game expectations, and promotional announcements for the show's sponsors. Mike Wright invites listeners to join his Periscope live sessions, and the hosts express gratitude towards their audience for support and engagement (62:44 - 64:07).
Andy Holloway on C.J. Anderson’s Penalties:
“I have no idea if McCoy is actually a good coach or not. But he is broken now for this team in this moment.” (04:21)
Jason Moore on DeAndre Washington vs. Lamar Miller:
“I would rather have DeAndre Washington. He's also been slightly more involved in the passing game, so he's safer games.” (31:20)
Mike Wright on Ezekiel Elliott vs. Packers Run Defense:
“I think Dak Prescott with. He doesn't make mistakes. You've had DEZ Bryant practicing all week.” (36:39)
Chris Meaney on DFS Quarterbacks:
“Brady at the top. $9,000. I know big Ben struggles a little bit away from home. But I have no problem with Big Ben down the list.” (55:32)
Jason Moore on Julio Jones:
“I'm not starting Matt Ryan in Seattle. I'm not starting. You know, you have to start Julio Jones because he's Julio Jones.” (58:36)
C.J. Anderson’s Value: Penalties significantly impacted his fantasy performance, leading to debate on whether to retain or trade him.
Player Availability: Critical updates on player statuses emphasized the importance of the "In-or-Out" decisions for lineup optimization.
Matchup-Driven Strategies: Detailed analysis of Week 6 matchups provided listeners with strategic insights for starting or streaming players based on opposing defenses.
DFS Insights: Chris Meaney’s DFS picks offered valuable suggestions for Fantasy Sports Network participants, balancing high-cost staples with strategic value plays.
Community Engagement: The hosts encouraged audience interaction through giveaways, social media, and upcoming live sessions, fostering a strong fantasy football community.
This detailed summary encapsulates the episode's primary discussions, strategic insights, and key player evaluations, providing both new listeners and regular fans with a comprehensive overview of the Fantasy Footballers' Week 6 analysis.