Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 9 Matchups, Election Results, In-or-Out

Summary

Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 9 Matchups, Election Results, In-or-Out

Release Date: November 4, 2016
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Podcast: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast

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I. Introduction and Community Updates

The episode kicks off with the hosts encouraging listeners to join their thriving community at JoinTheFoot.com, boasting over 3,000 members engaging in fantasy football discussions and accessing exclusive content. Andy Holloway highlights the benefits, mentioning, “There are new articles up, including the week by Ben Cummins and Week 9 Daily Dose Article by Brandon” (02:38).

II. Election Results

The hosts discuss the results of their mid-season elections, which included breakout candidates and rule changes voted on by the community.

A. Second Half Breakout Candidates

• Nominees: Jeremy Hill, Kenneth Dixon, Alshon Jeffery
• Winner: Alshon Jeffery
  "Alshon Jeffrey ran away with the second half breakout election" (10:16). Jason Moore concurs, noting, “Makes sense. He's the best of the three” (10:36).

B. Second Half Slowdown Candidates

• Nominees: Jordy Nelson, LeGarrett Blount, Ty Hilton
• Winner: LeGarrett Blount
  "LeGarrett Blunt took the cake with 53% of the vote" (10:36). The hosts suggest he could be a fantasy MVP contender.

C. Rule Changes

Several proposed rule changes were up for a vote:

1. Team Defensive Points: Only the opposing office should score them.
   • Result: Passed with 87% approval (11:02).
2. Quarterback Rushing Points: Assigning one point per 25 yards (proposed) vs. the existing 10 yards.
   • Result: Rejected with 83% voting no (11:35).
3. Touchdown Points: Changing touchdowns from 6 points to 4.
   • Result: Failed with 78% voting no (11:53).

Jason Moore humorously remarks on the resistance to change: “People fear change. I get it” (11:19).

D. Fantasy MVP

• Nominees: Philip Rivers, Tyler Ifert, Mike Evans
• Winner: Mike Evans
  "Mike Evans rewarded us for his election with his evolution from last night's performance" (12:33). Evans' consistent performance makes him a standout choice.

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III. In-or-Out Segment

The hosts engage in their popular "In-or-Out" segment, debating whether to start or sit specific players based on current performance and injury status.

Quarterbacks

• Ben Roethlisberger (Big Ben):
  • Decision: In
  • Quote: Jason Moore praises Big Ben's resilience: “He's been practicing this week, and he is made of a different meat than most people” (13:39).

Running Backs

• Spencer Ware:
  • Decision: Out
  • Reason: Still in concussion protocol (14:12).
• LaShawn McCoy:
  • Decision: Out
  • Reason: Injuries and questionable performance (14:24).
• Carlos Hyde:
  • Decision: In
  • Reason: Expected to play and benefit from DeJuan Harris’s involvement (14:43).

Wide Receivers

• Ty Montgomery:
  • Decision: In
  • Reason: High upside against particular defenses (15:48).
• Travis Benjamin & Tyrell Williams:
  • Decision: Benjamin Out, Williams In
  • Reason: Benjamin has a grade 2 PCL sprain, while Williams is expected to play despite inefficiency (17:34).

Tight Ends

• Delaney Walker & Dwayne Allen:
  • Decision: Walker In, Allen In
  • Reason: Both are back at practice and expected to play (18:22).

Defense

• Various Defenses Discussed:
  Detailed evaluations based on matchup specifics (19:00).

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IV. Injury Reports and Updates

The hosts provide insights into key player injuries affecting Week 9 lineups.

• Mike Evans:

  • Status: Concussion protocol with 10 days
  • Discussion: Importance for playoff runs (09:56).

• Jameis Winston:

  • Status: Out with a concussion, replaced by Blaine McKown
  • Impact: Significant for fantasy matchups (09:47).

• Antone Smith:

  • Status: Injured and carted off the field
  • Impact: Decreased fantasy value (08:51).

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V. Matchup Analysis

The trio breaks down several key matchups for Week 9, offering strategic advice for fantasy owners.

A. Panthers vs. Rams

• Key Players: Todd Gurley (RB, Carolina), Frank Gore (RB, Green Bay)
• Advice: Start Gurley over Gore due to favorable defense against running backs (24:18).

B. Saints vs. 49ers

• Key Players: Cole Kaepernick (QB, 49ers), Mike Evans (WR, Tampa Bay)
• Advice: Start Mike Evans and consider shredding Kaepernick for his inconsistent passing game against a weak Saints defense (27:04).

C. Chargers vs. Titans

• Key Players: Marcus Mariota (QB, Titans), Derek Henry (RB, Broncos)
• Advice: Consider starting Derek Henry for high upside against the Chargers' defense (36:05).

D. Bills vs. Seahawks

• Key Players: Tyrod Taylor (QB, Bills), Percy Harvin (WR, Seahawks)
• Advice: Favor defensive strongholds; start players like Jimmy Graham and Jeff Janus for Buffalo (44:05).

E. Broncos vs. Raiders

• Key Players: Derek Carr (QB, Raiders), Amari Cooper (WR, Raiders), Michael Crabtree (WR, Raiders)
• Advice: Start Carr despite Denver's strong pass defense, capitalize on Cooper and Crabtree's opportunities (42:37).

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VI. Fantasy Forecast

The hosts provide tailored predictions and recommendations for Week 9, emphasizing strategic plays based on matchups and player performances.

• Jonathan Stewart (RB, Carolina):

  • Insight: Expected to continue scoring two touchdowns per game (26:30).

• Philip Rivers (QB, Colts):

  • Insight: Strong performance expected against Tennessee’s recently improving defense (35:10).

• Derek Henry (RB, Broncos):

  • Insight: High pick for flex due to favorable matchup and consistent performance (36:53).

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VII. Daily Dose with Chris Meaney

Returning after a brief hiatus, Chris Meaney offers Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS) advice focused on FanDuel strategies for Week 9.

A. Quarterbacks

• Aaron Rodgers (QB, Packers):

  • Recommendation: Top pick due to high target volume and consistent touchdowns (49:16).

• Drew Brees (QB, 49ers):

  • Recommendation: Value pick at $8,600, beneficial against the struggling 49ers defense (49:16).

B. Wide Receivers

• Antonio Brown (WR, Eagles):

  • Value Buy: Priced at $8,700, considered a steal for his high target volume (50:36).

• Dez Bryant (WR, Cowboys):

  • Recommendation: Solid choice with recent multi-touchdown performances (50:36).

C. Running Backs

• Zeke Elliott (RB, Cowboys):

  • Recommendation: High stability and volume make him a reliable RB2 (52:51).

• Derrick Henry (RB, Broncos):

  • Recommendation: Suggested as a flex option due to matchup and opportunity (36:53).

D. Tight Ends and Defenses

• Nick Foles (TE, Eagles):

  • Recommendation: Minimal involvement; opt for alternatives or stack with Aaron Rodgers (54:13).

• Philadelphia Eagles (Defense):

  • Recommendation: High-value defense option due to offensive consistency (53:50).

Chris Meaney emphasizes targeting high-volume players and leveraging favorable matchups to maximize DFS lineups.

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VIII. Conclusion

The episode concludes with the hosts recapping their key recommendations for Week 9, urging listeners to make informed decisions based on the analysis provided. They also acknowledge their community members and reward a listener with a $50 gift card, reinforcing the supportive and interactive nature of the Fantasy Footballers community.

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Notable Quotes

• Jason Moore on Election Predictions:
  “And Brandon ran away with the second half breakout election” (10:36).

• Andy Holloway on Mike Evans:
  “I think he's going to play. But I'd want to be able to make that decision as late as possible” (16:54).

• Mike Wright on Rule Changes:
  “When you have a team defense like the Rams, in case Keenum throws a pick six, it shouldn't hurt your Rams D” (11:02).

• Chris Meaney on DFS Strategy:
  “Aaron Rodgers up against the Colts, he just throwing the ball a ton. 38 times. 56, 42, 45. That's the last four games” (49:16).

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and strategic advice offered by the Fantasy Footballers during their Week 9 podcast episode. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy manager or new to the game, the analysis provided can guide your lineup decisions effectively.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Foot Clan. Before we start today's show, I want to take a second and remind you about JoinTheFoot.com our growing and thriving fantasy football community. There's over 3,000 Foot Clan members over there bouncing ideas off of each other, getting extra stuff from the show, an extra episode every single week. Get your questions answered, get in a raffle, get a live stream. There's all kinds of great things from the fantasy footballers [e-mail] foreigners podcast coming.

[Jason Moore]

To you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the show Friday. It's Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

Was that like you were welcoming Friday to the show?

[Jason Moore]

That's what it sounded like.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, Friday, come sit down Friday, check out the show.

[Jason Moore]

Take a special show.

[Mike Wright]

Pull up a chair.

[Jason Moore]

It's special 301.

[Mike Wright]

Not as exciting as yesterday's 300 episode. And shout out to just everybody in the world.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. The tweets were fantastic.

[Mike Wright]

We had a couple of very impressive music videos.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Highlighted by me being turned into the solo man.

[Mike Wright]

I think we gave away about $500 worth of swag legitimately. Just fantasy footballers gear from shop ballers.

[Andy Holloway]

Glad to do it.

[Mike Wright]

Very exciting, very fun. We have a great show for you today. We have the second half of the matchups. We have Daily Dose, Chris Meaney back in action by popular demand. By popular demand. And if you need more DFS information, you can go to the website the Fantasy footballers dot com. There are new articles up, including the week by Ben Cummins and Week 9 Daily Dose Article by Brandon. So one of our staff writers. It's going to be a very good day. Yes, very good day. We will talk about last night's game. I have a quick question of the day that I want to jump into. First, this is a commissioner question that was written into the show from Jerry, Jerry B in Washington. Now, you've reviewed this, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I have.

[Mike Wright]

You know what's going on. Do you want me to read the entire question or do you want to summarize it?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, let's.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Says, hey, hey, guys. I love the show. I'm a huge fan and my big money league. I think the commissioner cheated.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

He's in second and I'm in third. We play where the leader at the end of the regular season takes all the cash. So every game counts. This week I'm up against the player that is one in seven. He has no chance at the cash or the playoffs. He hasn't set his lineup in weeks. He's done he doesn't care anymore. And I bragged to the commissioner that I was going to get an auto win this week because my opponent isn't playing anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

There's your first mistake.

[Mike Wright]

Someone then goes in and sets his lineup. I know it was the commissioner, but I cannot prove it. Oh, and quote, the guy didn't add or drop any players. Somebody just set the best lineup with what they had, capital letters. What do I do?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, that's. That's a sticky situation here because you're. I'm sure you're talking about your friends, your good friends. You're playing against them for cash. Like I said, your first mistake was you don't. You don't poke the bear. You never poke the sleeping bear, because bad things always happen when you do. Now, whether or not the commissioners set the lineup, maybe the commission sent a text to the friend and said, hey, go. Go set your lineup. There's.

[Mike Wright]

There's nothing that you can.

[Andy Holloway]

You can do.

[Jason Moore]

No, there is absolutely something you can do.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

You can ask that owner if they set their lineup.

[Jason Moore]

No, you can just beat the guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

There we go.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, look, you should be playing a guy with his lineup set. You poke the bear. The lineup got set. Be happy that he didn't make any waiver moves or hasn't been that involved. He's 1 in 7. His roster can't be that good. Just go out there and beat the guy and then look at your best friend, commissioner, lock eyes with him and.

[Mike Wright]

Say, oh, yeah, I know what you did.

[Jason Moore]

I know what you did, and I beat you. And I'm coming for you. And when I win the championship and take all of your money this year, I will reign it over you and then proceed to pick it up off the ground because you can't have any. It's mine. That would be my recommendation to this fine gentleman, Jerry B. Yeah, that's a.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a tough lesson learned right there.

[Mike Wright]

All right, I think we covered. I think we covered that pretty well.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's all you can do. If you want to follow the show on Twitter, you can do so at the FF Ballers. We're also on YouTube, the Fantasy Sports Network. You heard about JoinTheFoot.com before the show, and the Fantasy Footballers.com is the website, so.

[Jason Moore]

Our website has been getting so many upgrades, Andy, and I just want to say thank you because it's mostly your doing, but people have been writing in and saying they really, really like the. All the new stuff there. You see Some changes on the site if you're. If you're there. All the new premium rankings and access to the foot cast, all those cool things. So if you're not used to going to the fantasy footballers.com upgrade your life.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I appreciate you. I appreciate you thanking the entire web development team.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, thank you to all out there, whoever you are.

[Mike Wright]

If you missed it yesterday, we had a periscope. It's actually a fun one to go back through. So if you follow us on Periscope. We just talked to everybody for about an hour. A lot of questions about how the show got started, questions about how we.

[Jason Moore]

Met each other, questions about inside jokes. A lot of people don't know where.

[Mike Wright]

You know certain things.

[Jason Moore]

What is the Michael, I love Michael Keaton thing? Or where do. Withstanding victories, all those things.

[Mike Wright]

A lot of medical questions related to your grammar issues, like, what is going on there?

[Jason Moore]

A lot of people calling me fat.

[Mike Wright]

There were a lot of people who called you fat.

[Jason Moore]

That's all right.

[Mike Wright]

There were a lot of people who just asked casually why we don't work out. I find that very offensive.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the truth is, I need, you know, look, I'm not recommending you do this to anyone. This is wrong and rude. Thankfully, I have, as we know, very thick skin, multiple layers. But I need. I need a little bit more fat shaming to get my life in order. So I welcome.

[Mike Wright]

So you welcome it.

[Jason Moore]

I welcome.

[Mike Wright]

To motivate.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think that's gonna change you. You gotta look inside.

[Mike Wright]

You're right deep inside.

[Jason Moore]

It's way down there. Beneath the layers. The layers and layers.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so the game last night, Thursday Night Football.

[Andy Holloway]

What a game.

[Mike Wright]

Matt Ryan, Jameis Winston. I had Matt Ryan, my number one quarterback on the week. Winston, number six. I'm feeling really good about that right now, which is sometimes you have those rankings and the Thursday doesn't go the way you think. But Matt Ryan is balling out. Jameis Winston's getting it done thanks to that very large man named Mike Evans.

[Andy Holloway]

My. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And we have talked on the show extensively about Mike Evans and what he could mean to the playoff run for a lot of fantasy owners. Clearly he's that situation. Much like Stafford with Calvin Johnson back in the day, where, look, every play when he's coming back into the pocket, there is the first read. Is the tall man.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The way that it seems. It seems like he's the odd reads. He's the first, and then he goes to a second and then he's the third.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And Then he goes. And then he goes.

[Mike Wright]

He's every other.

[Jason Moore]

Every other. He's every Odd read. Is Mike Evans, is he open yet?

[Andy Holloway]

I got to double check. You open? No.

[Mike Wright]

Are you sure?

[Jason Moore]

You open. It doesn't matter. I'm throwing it.

[Mike Wright]

Made arguably the catch of the year down the sideline.

[Andy Holloway]

That was the unbelievable one hander, compounded by the absolute shot which if it was any one of the three of us, our limbs, including our head, would.

[Mike Wright]

Have just popped off.

[Andy Holloway]

Just shot off, rocketed into the upper deck.

[Mike Wright]

So here's the reality of this game that I see the summary, if you will. Every fantasy player that we projected or thought could do well, did well, minus one. So if we, you know, we talked, we talked about the upside of Hooper. He scored. The upside of Brait. He scored. Humphreys scored.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Jason Moore]

Brait.

[Andy Holloway]

You got it. You got to give something to Brait.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, Brait scored, but he did it in garbage time. But let's be honest, the majority of the game was garbage time for Tampa Bay of the second half. I mean, this game, I failed the almost upset of the week. I took a risk and I failed. And I'm sad because I feel like I had a nice streak going. But that was the wrong call. The one player that I think disappointed fantasy owners in this game that you counted on was Antone Smith.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

If you picked him up and you started him, the game started very poorly for you with the early fumble. You had more carries going to Peyton Barber and really not very many carries going to any running back at all. You had 11 for Barber, five for Smith. Smith, then you know, he was carted.

[Andy Holloway]

Off the field, which is bizarre. I was talking to the guy. Nobody, no one's not Roto World did not mention this. I'm not getting any updates. I'm searching as I want to know what's going on with this situation because I saw it. The man went down, had to be helped off. But no one, no one's talking about it.

[Mike Wright]

Michael Irvin was on the sideline comforting Antone Smith on the cart as though it was a season ending type of injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Looked real bad. So.

[Mike Wright]

Which makes Peyton Barber the de facto starter.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he'll be a hot pickup if or when something is announced.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. And then injury news. Jameis Winston went out with an injury, went full McCown.

[Jason Moore]

He said he feels fine today, but if he's in the concussion protocol, it doesn't matter how you feel.

[Mike Wright]

But Winston was concussion. I thought it was knee. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Evans.

[Mike Wright]

Mike Evans was.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Sorry, sir.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, so Evans was a concussion protocol guy. You need to pay attention. But he's got 10 days. It helps a lot. As opposed to getting injured. Like that Monday night game where Carson Palmer got a concussion or no, it was Sunday, but then he had the Thursday game. Makes it a lot more difficult. I wanted to give an update. A couple days ago we had the mid season election.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

On the show. We nominated players and some. We nominated some rule changes and. And those results are in. You voted on Twitter. The second half breakout candidates were Jeremy Hill, Kenneth Dixon and Alshon Jeffrey. Alshon Jeffrey ran away with the second half breakout election.

[Jason Moore]

Makes sense. He's the best of the three.

[Mike Wright]

The second half slowdown. We nominated Jordy Nelson, LeGarrett Blunt and Ty Hilton. LeGarrett Blunt took the cake. 53% of the vote. Took the cake and ran with it. LeGarrett Blunt would do fantasy MVP. Well, let's go to the rule change.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

So we had people vote for the rule changes. We had you vote yes or no.

[Jason Moore]

And we kind of knew these were going to be the outcomes.

[Mike Wright]

Team defensive points against should only be scored the opposing office. So basically the argument that I made was when you have a team defense like the Rams, in case Keenum throws a pick six, it shouldn't hurt your Rams. D. That passed with a 87%. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

A super majority.

[Mike Wright]

A super majority vote. The fantasy rule change number two, these.

[Jason Moore]

Two were more also had a super.

[Mike Wright]

Majority but for the negative. Yeah. Quarterbacks should get one point per 25 yards rushing. Also not 10 yards. They had an 83% no vote. I was firmly in the no vote camp.

[Jason Moore]

Look, people fear change. I get it. Sure. Come talk to me in 10 years when this.

[Mike Wright]

You have to get it on the ballot early and then slow increment it. And then the last one, Mike had suggested that touchdowns should be worth 4 points instead of 6 and that failed within 78% no vote. Because people like their touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not everyone's ready for the Dreamers.

[Mike Wright]

The Dreamers. All right. And then the final one with over 3200 votes, the fantasy MVP. Also we, we made the argument that this would be the player on the most championship rosters. By the way, do you know who that was last year?

[Jason Moore]

Who was on the most championship?

[Mike Wright]

Who was the player with on the highest percentage of championship roster?

[Andy Holloway]

Can I go three guesses?

[Mike Wright]

No, you can go one.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would guess. I'll guess Cousins.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go David Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

David Johnson was the one mentioned he was on he was the second highest.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, then I'm switching to Jordan Reed.

[Mike Wright]

No, it was not Cousins of Reed. I only brought it up again because I actually looked at this. It was Tim Hightower.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes, of course.

[Mike Wright]

He was on 35% of championship rosters. I believe David Johnson was on 25%. But back to the vote. The fantasy MVP. We nominated Philip Rivers, Tyler Ifert, and Mike Evans. And far and away the winner was Mike Evans, who rewarded us for his election. The evolution with last night's performance, which.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this, I believe he did not win the vote when I nominated him preseason as fantasy mvp, but he was my pick. Preseason fantasy mvp.

[Andy Holloway]

No one cares. Cool story, bro. Where's the toot?

[Mike Wright]

Toot for that Goodness. So we have a great show the second half of the matchups. We're going to get into the injury reports right now and talk about the guys that are kind of on the bubble. We don't know if they're playing a lot of decision make. A lot of questions that I've been seeing have been Buffalo backfield related. Do I start? Quote the Buffalo backfield, like, whoever starts or Terrence west or Isaiah Crowell or all these different choices. So let's go ahead and. Let's go ahead and get into the injuries.

[Jason Moore]

What's it gonna be, McFly?

[Chris Meaney]

Are you in or out?

[Mike Wright]

All right, we're playing in or out with Big Ben at the quarterback position. In or out?

[Jason Moore]

In. He's been practicing this week, and he is made of a different meat than most people.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

He's made of a different meat.

[Jason Moore]

He sure is, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go in.

[Jason Moore]

I. You know, normally I'd say he's like, made of metal, but Big Ben?

[Mike Wright]

No, A different meat.

[Andy Holloway]

Like an Al.

[Jason Moore]

He's just a really solid meat.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Okay. We're off to a good start. Running back. In or out? Spencer Ware.

[Andy Holloway]

Going out.

[Mike Wright]

You're going without.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think so as well. He still hasn't got out of the concussion protocol, and we're getting close.

[Mike Wright]

So start Chuck Hendrick west.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

LaShawn McCoy. In or out?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna. I lean out.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

But if this is. That's really tough because it's Monday night.

[Jason Moore]

Ooh.

[Andy Holloway]

If you don't have Gilly, you need.

[Mike Wright]

To go else insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

Then I'm going to go elsewhere to be safe because I want to make sure I get points.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

And I lean out as well.

[Mike Wright]

Carlos Hyde. In or out?

[Andy Holloway]

Still in the non contact jersey. I think that he's going to play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean the, the writing out of the 49ers can't beat. Writers are talking about how they expect Dejuan Harris to be the change of pace back with Carlos Hyde. So they're expecting him in. Definitely close, but I would say in.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Jonathan Stewart was back at practice on Thursday, so we expect him in, don't we?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Turns out they were telling the truth. Two days of rest.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Jerick McKinnon.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that he's in. He's returned to practice.

[Mike Wright]

Terrell Pryor in.

[Jason Moore]

He's fine.

[Mike Wright]

Ty Hilton.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he upgraded. A full participant in Thursday's practice.

[Andy Holloway]

Ty Hilton is joined. That cast of characters that they just don't practice on Wednesday.

[Mike Wright]

How about someone that I'm being asked about more than just about everybody, Ty Montgomery. Oof.

[Andy Holloway]

He's practicing. I think that he will play. I mean the him being at actual practice speaks a lot. Although we expected him to play last week. So be prepared.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm going to say in based on the John Brown timeline with the same exact issue of sickle cell trait.

[Mike Wright]

Here's what I do with time Montgomery, if you want to know my opinion, which I hope you do, let me have it. The Green Bay game is the latest. It's the afternoon game, the 425 Eastern game. And so you take on Indianapolis, the Green Bay packers take on the Colts. You also have the San Diego and Tennessee game starting at the same time. If I had time Montgomery, the upside plus baseline of him playing is very high to me, especially with Randall Cobb now being declared a game time decision. So what I would do is I'd want to make sure that my roster has a wide receiver available or running back. If you're playing Montgomery at running back from those late game teams, whether the the night game of Oakland and Denver, which by the way, I'm looking forward to that game. San Diego, Tennessee or Green Bay and Indianapolis. I mean whether that's signing, you know, bottom of the barrel top, you could go Dontrell Inman, you could go Kendall Wright. If you have Moncrief. There are other options that you have to ensure the Montgomery play because I think he's going to play. But I'd want to be able to make that decision as late as possible as opposed to just rolling out. I don't know. Devontae Parker earlier in the day not having the upside of Tom Montgomery later.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's a good strategy. And it reminds me also since we already brought up Lashawn McCoy. The same strategy kind of applies. If you don't have Gilly and you have no other waiver options, you might be able to pick up CJ Pros.

[Mike Wright]

That's the guy that comes who plays.

[Jason Moore]

In that game who's widely available in most leagues. And then if Shady plays, you plug him in. And if not, at least you got somebody in that same game.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Travis Benjamin and Tyrell Williams, both of the San Diego wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Travis Benjamin we talked about has the grade 2 PCL sprain. I don't think he'll play this week. Tyrell Williams says that he's going to play. I think he will, but he's been ineffective when with with this injury.

[Jason Moore]

Travis out. Tyrell in.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll say Dontrell Inman is a sneaky snart, as we would call him.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Do you lean less sneaky?

[Mike Wright]

Do you lean. That cob will be out, by the way, because I lean out.

[Jason Moore]

I lean in. He was back at practice limited. Yeah, limited. That's going to be a game time decision is what they're saying.

[Mike Wright]

And lastly, Steve Smith, he's back at limited practice.

[Andy Holloway]

So maybe, but I lean out and.

[Mike Wright]

Then some tight ends. Delaney Walker, Dwayne Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Walker will play. Allen's back at practice, so the Jack Doyle ride may have maybe over. Also, Hunter Henry is still not practicing, so I don't expect Henry, but Allen and Walker will play.

[Jason Moore]

Walker to me is a guy you just need to monitor. Yeah, you got to be careful when you're added on Thursday and we've already had a week this year or where earlier where Walker was expected to play and then he missed. So it's not out of the realm that he could just repeat that. And if you're completely unprepared, if you've got Delaney Walker, make sure you've got a backup plan in case he. He misses. And pay attention to Friday's practice report.

[Mike Wright]

All right. And then Ladarius Green.

[Andy Holloway]

Who knows? Who knows what's going on with him?

[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

I remember my parents, they used to talk like that.

[Jason Moore]

How you doing? This was from the Renaissance.

[Mike Wright]

If it was really expensive, the voice got deeper, too, right.

[Jason Moore]

Look over here at this piece of art. Moving along.

[Mike Wright]

Bill Elliott was elderly in those times. All right, moving on. Fantasy Forecast. Back into the matchups. We're going to break down the big fantasy football decisions. Help you on your way this week. Week nine. It was funny though, you guys said, I mean, with the amount of fantasy points scored last night, there are teams either in a very big hole or a very big lead.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I saw one. Normally we would say, you know, you never. You're not going to win or lose your week on Thursday. You're just going to get an idea.

[Mike Wright]

I think a couple gives you an advantage.

[Jason Moore]

Well, there was one that I saw. I had Matt Ryan, Julio Evans and Matt Bryant, my boom boom kicker of the week, and they had 119 points scored against them.

[Mike Wright]

I especially love that you push off the boom boom kicker until you got the pick. Right.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I hope that you slow. I was gonna say, I hope that that becomes who you are. You're just known in the industry as the kicker expert after.

[Jason Moore]

Don't do that to me.

[Mike Wright]

After Matt Bryant.

[Jason Moore]

Don't you put that evil on me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, seriously. So let's move on to the matchups.

[Jason Moore]

Panthers at Rams.

[Mike Wright]

Panthers at the Rams, 44 and a half point over, under Cam Newton, Case Keenum, a match made in heaven. Look, I think the Panthers showed us something last week with their defense coming out of the buy, doing some things differently. Definitely an impressive win over the Cardinals. Right now the Panthers run defense is third in the league and we know Gurley struggles with the yards per carry. I don't see the potential for a monster game from Gurley. But the question for fantasy owners is would you start somebody else in the.

[Jason Moore]

Game from the Rams?

[Mike Wright]

No. Would you start somebody else over? Would you make. Let me give you some opportunities here to make a decision. Would you start Frank Gore at Green Bay or would you start Todd Gurley at Carolina?

[Jason Moore]

I would go Gurley there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would, too.

[Mike Wright]

What about Matt Forte at Miami after the couple good weeks? Or definitely. What about Melvin Gordon against Tennessee? Or Todd Gurley?

[Andy Holloway]

Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Gordon.

[Mike Wright]

All right, last one. Devonte Booker or Todd Gurley?

[Andy Holloway]

Booker.

[Mike Wright]

Really? Okay.

[Jason Moore]

That one. I think I'm going to go girly on.

[Mike Wright]

We have those guys basically back to back in the rankings. We talked about Jonathan Stewart. He's going to be in the lineup and he scored two touchdowns each of the last two weeks, delivering a high value at that position. Something that we've wanted to see was as soon as that concussion happened, we speculated maybe Jonathan Stewart gets those goal line carries to keep Cam Newton safe. We know Newton's still trying to do that. But last week Newton's fantasy numbers were down. People asked us on the mailbag yesterday, is he just a. Is he no better than his streaming option right now? And when you think about what Russell Wilson and Cam Newton did last year.

[Andy Holloway]

At the position, I was just going to bring that up. So go ahead. That Cam Newton's numbers at this point compared to last season, actually pretty comparable. Pretty similar. It was the second half when Cam Newton, everything just erupted for both him and Russell Wilson. So don't give up on Cam Newton at this point for me.

[Jason Moore]

No, I agree. And the Rams, while they are a decent defense, a little bit better against the run. They're just completely middle of the pack against the quarterback. You've had big games, you know, Stafford put up the four touchdown game against them and then you've had games where, you know, they shut down Russell Wilson, but Russell Wilson was injured. I think the Panthers are all fine plays here. I don't expect huge gains from Jonathan Stewart. I actually do think Kelvin Benjamin is a. Is a very solid play. If you look at the amount of touchdowns given up in the red zone to wide receivers combined with Kelvin Benjamin's red zone wide receiver touchdowns, they four red zone. Four. Which is near the top, if not the third. Yeah, it's third in the league. I think that is a match made in heaven for Kelvin Benjamin. The only other player that I would really kind of, I think I would be willing to start him here would be Kenny Britt. Kenny Britt's shown that he's, you know, here to stay.

[Mike Wright]

And the Carolina defense, secondary for Carolina. J.J. nelson just put up two touchdowns on him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So that's an interesting play. Does your system allow you to put Kenny Brett into your lineup?

[Jason Moore]

Well, I've got much better wide receivers, so no.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

But if you are in a pinch, I think he is serviceable. Now, would you rather have Tavon Austin.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Or Kenny Brett here in a PPR league?

[Mike Wright]

I would take Tavon Austin all day over Kenny Brett.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take Kenny Brett.

[Mike Wright]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You want to do a ugliest of Water bets. PPR though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

[Jason Moore]

Never thought I'd see the day where we had a Kenny Brit Tavon Austin.

[Mike Wright]

Just a Kenny Brit Tavon Austin Waterback.

[Jason Moore]

Saints at 49ers.

[Mike Wright]

Saints 49ers, 52 1/2 point over under in this one. I've told you all. I've went out on the limb and said Colin Kaepernick's a top 10 quarterback for me this week. Oh, me, oh my. The Saints the 28th best past defense, 28th best, 28th best, 28th Best. And Colin Kaepernick at home off the by, might get Carlos Hide back, read option opportunities with his legs. Just got to throw a touchdown and run the ball and he's going to give you a serviceable week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, if, if.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you'll be biting your nails the whole game, but I think he'll do it.

[Jason Moore]

If Prop 25 was enacted, yeah. He did not get absurd amounts of fantasy points for running the ball. Colin Kaepernick would have a bad game, but he is. He's going to run for 50 yards, which will make his production fine. He'll get a couple touchdowns because it's New Orleans. I don't have him top 10, but he's certainly a streamable option this week and better than a lot of other guys. You know, I would. I would play him over Matthew Stafford this week as an example.

[Andy Holloway]

The 49ers defense are allowing over two touchdown passes a game. They're allowing over almost one and a half rushing touchdown per game. So start your Saints.

[Mike Wright]

The world wants to know how many, though, Mike. They want to know. Ingram, Hightower, Cook, Snead and Thomas.

[Andy Holloway]

How many combined?

[Jason Moore]

You just named them.

[Mike Wright]

Do you start all those guys?

[Jason Moore]

I find starting? Absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

Kobe, Fleener. How do you feel about Fleener?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm fine starting him.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so that is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 saints.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, not all seven of them will you start hit. But 52 and a half over under against the worst defense in the league.

[Mike Wright]

You're willing to roll Sean Payton in there, too?

[Andy Holloway]

Not if he's going to be a dumb dumb and bench people. You get negative points for that kind of decision making.

[Jason Moore]

This just came across the wire. LaShawn McCoy practicing again on Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

So that means they're.

[Mike Wright]

That's a really good sign with the extra day.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So that leans me more towards being willing to grab CJ Pro size and wait out LaShawn McCoy. But come on, go on. Rex Ryan. Don't do it. You got your bye week.

[Mike Wright]

You have to play him eventually. He has to be well eventually.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. Let. Let him. You get.

[Mike Wright]

You are fighting for the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

So much extra rest.

[Mike Wright]

Have you seen him? He's very good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Was he good last week when he was played too early and then re. Aggravated his hamstring?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Is that okay?

[Mike Wright]

No, he wasn't. All right. Anything else from this game?

[Andy Holloway]

You don't have to get better ever.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. If Carlos Hyde plays, you certainly play him. The question if he's out, I think we're all in agreement. It's dejuan Harris is the running back that you want to start. The question is if Carlos Hyde is in, could you still start Djuan Harris?

[Mike Wright]

Deep leagues?

[Jason Moore]

I would say maybe.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe if they don't want to overwork Hyde, bad defense.

[Jason Moore]

I would not.

[Mike Wright]

If he's the change of pace. Yeah, I wouldn't either.

[Jason Moore]

Colts at Packers.

[Mike Wright]

Packers seven and a half point favorites, 54 point over under. This one has all the makings of a fantasy feast. Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, you're starting both of those guys and you don't look back. You have Frank Gore who just keeps getting it done on the. On the Colts side of the ball. Including the. This recent news from Rod. Rob Rodinsky.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Chadzinski.

[Mike Wright]

Chadzinski. That he absolute shutty old Chuddy.

[Andy Holloway]

My chuddy buddy.

[Mike Wright]

Chuddy buddy absolutely wants to get Frank Gore more touches this week. He's been doing things with the touches. He's been doing things with the ball out of the backfield in the passing game. Look, he's. He's. He's the best RB2 you could have.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, because he finishes as an RB1.

[Mike Wright]

Right, right. The best RB1 you could.

[Jason Moore]

He's the worst RB1 you could have and the best RB2 you can have because he's always at that 12, 13.

[Mike Wright]

He's just very consistent. You know you're going to get something.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a succubus.

[Mike Wright]

He's a succubus.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just stealing everyone's life force and continues to play and be great.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to start every Niall Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

You're.

[Jason Moore]

You're going to start everybody in this game. I think I'm. I'm fine. I believe that Montgomery's playing. Devonte Adams was my start of the week this week. Jordy should be set. Ty Hilton. Is there a single player. Is there anybody in this game on either side of the ball that you would hesitate to start? I'm not starting. Jeff Janus. If we're going.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to ask if Cobb is out, are you going to. Is Janice playable at all?

[Jason Moore]

Not for me, I'm not. He was on the field 90% of the time and did almost nothing last.

[Andy Holloway]

Game except scored a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

I think you hesitate on any tight end from Indianapolis right now. Allen and Doyle. I don't know which guy start there. I'm not starting Alan. And so the question is, do you start Doyle with Alan back?

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm streaming Doyle.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm okay with that, I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't really like it.

[Mike Wright]

I'd rather have played Bright last night, for example. Well, of course, my. By the way, if you play. Historically speaking, my accuracy and predictions is incredible. When you go backwards, like my ability to read a stat line, it's. It's elite.

[Andy Holloway]

I've heard there's a service that allows you to pay. Pay money and switch your bench and basically do that.

[Mike Wright]

You hear about this out there, you can.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not gonna name any names, but.

[Mike Wright]

Rhymes with Schmidt.

[Andy Holloway]

What is going on over there?

[Jason Moore]

You can't have that. Look, if that's a feature where you want to. If you want to add a feature where, hey, you get to make one bench to starter replacement at the end of the week, that's a cool feature. If the league wanted to turn that on and say, hey, you get one, like, roster move, do over, and everyone in the league agreed I wouldn't want that. But it's. It's a neat feature to add as an option. But if it's like, hey, you can.

[Mike Wright]

Do that for money as many times, I want to know where the.

[Andy Holloway]

It is disgusting.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the money goes back to the players, though, in a pot.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no, it doesn't.

[Jason Moore]

No, it doesn't.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a vacuum that. You know those bank tubes?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It actually, there's a tube that goes right into Roger Goodell and it just dumps it on him.

[Mike Wright]

All right, you see, Sherman came out this morning and said the NFL ratings are down because it's no fun. You don't let anybody have any personality doing anything on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't disagree with that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there has to be a balance, but you have to let players. You have to enjoy the game. I mean, this is ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Norman, do an arrow.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You know, after he.

[Mike Wright]

How dare you.

[Jason Moore]

It's just. Arrows are slow.

[Andy Holloway]

Guys, guys, there's children watching.

[Jason Moore]

It's gotten to the point. I mean, it's just ridiculous. I am. I don't like the guys, you know, wearing, you know, putting Putting the marker in the socks and having phone and.

[Mike Wright]

Going extravagant going and sitting on the star.

[Jason Moore]

But come on, let him have some fun.

[Mike Wright]

Loosen up, Roger. Papa Bear. Here we go.

[Jason Moore]

Titans at Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Marcus Mariota stringing together a number of quarterback one performances. Does it continue against this Chargers defense?

[Andy Holloway]

It's certainly very possible. The Chargers are 23rd against the pass while they are sixth against the run. So I mean this is a pretty solid run defense going up against Marco Murray, one of the best running backs this year. So there's a situation. I was going to throw this out there. Mariota's stretch, while it's not as scorching, he's reminding me of Russell Wilson end of year last season where he just. The numbers don't make sense. His touchdown efficiency with, with the volume doesn't make sense to me. But sometimes these streaks happen like that and you just, you got to ride it out until it, until it finishes. So Mariota is a fine play this week.

[Jason Moore]

The Chargers past defense has been vastly improved with Joey Bosa. And so for me, when I look at their entire defense, yeah, Mariota is not quite as good under pressure. I think he's okay. He's a low end quarterback. One for me this week. But I don't see the Chargers passing defense the way I saw it, you know, three weeks ago. You got to stay current with these defenses. Same on the other side of the ball. Real quick to just talk about, you know, Philip Rivers coming up against Tennessee. There is the idea that Tennessee has this very pretty good defense against quarterbacks. You know, through the first, what was the first five weeks of the year they hadn't given up more than 254 yards. Only gave up two touchdowns once in the, in the first five games. Do you know what they've done the last three weeks? I don't know if people are aware of what's happened to the Tennessee.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's hear it.

[Mike Wright]

I know they've given up a lot of touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Well, three weeks ago, 336 yards and two touchdowns. That's great for fantasy. Two weeks ago, 353 yards and three touchdowns. That's better. And then last week, 337 and three. However, a lot of that was the most epic garbage time of all. All time. That was Blake Bortles. But they are, they are susceptible and Philip Rivers is no Bortles.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask you about Derek Henry because there's the rumors in the bushes that they want to get Derek Henry more involved, more touches. Are you willing to take that information and his past performances. He had a good game last week. Maybe that was the breakout and at least flex him.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. I think you probably, I think you'll probably get enough production. You know, San Diego gives up a touchdown every 20 carries. That's seventh worst in the league. I think you saw last week a willingness to bring Henry in for parts of drives in the red zone. I'd rather have DeMarco Murray.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, I'm not asking that.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just. I just don't know what.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, would you, would you guys rather have in a week or Nile Davis?

[Mike Wright]

Okay, well, in a week like this, in a week with these, the bye weeks, the injuries, the dejuan Harris of the world. Give me Derek Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Those type of decisions. Give me Derek Henry. I'm curious where we have Henry. We have him. Well, he must be higher than that.

[Andy Holloway]

My search function did. We have him 24. Our consensus 24.

[Mike Wright]

That's, that's pretty high.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think I've got him the highest at 21. The, the San Diego.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're confident as a running back, too? As of right now, yeah, I believe that.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, he's, he's low end RB2. I think his opportunity to score a touchdown like he did last week is as high as ever against the Chargers passing defense. When you add in the fact that DeMarco Murray had an injury, he's played through it. He's fine. I mean, DeMarco Murray very well could be the number one running back this week, but should he get injured, you also have just an absolutely enormous upside. And I think it's somewhat safe on this bye week to throw Derek Henry in as a flex.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Other storylines from this game you want to pay attention to. We talked about Hunter Henry probably not playing. Antonio Gates is a great start this week.

[Jason Moore]

Completely agree. We also talked about the question mark with all the wide receivers there. The only healthy guy is Dontrell Inman. And if you don't know Inman, you know, a lot of times Inman is thought of as like this six foot average, whatever receiver. Boring. Yeah. A big boring receiver. He's 6 foot 3 and ran like a 43 in his, in his pro day. He's a, he's a physical freak.

[Mike Wright]

He's a weapon.

[Jason Moore]

He's a weapon. That's a, that's the best way to say he's a weapon. And we've, we've seen games where he's, he's exploded. This could be one of those games because the Chips are falling. Right. Or rather wrong with the other wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you say that George and Mark are in town?

[Mike Wright]

Perfect storm situation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think one of them has arrived, but I think the other one's delayed. Yeah, the other flight is delayed. Not a perfect storm. Because Tennessee, you know, if garbage time didn't happen last week, we'd probably still look at Tennessee's defense with a little bit more respect. So it's. It's a half a storm.

[Mike Wright]

Last guy here I want to ask about. Flex worthy or not, two out of the past three weeks has been very good. One dud in between, though. Kendall, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You know Mariota loves Kendall, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I would.

[Jason Moore]

I love Kendall.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. I think I'm okay starting him as a flex.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

As a. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Mike Wright]

Would you start CJ Prosise or Kendall Wright?

[Jason Moore]

That's a good question. I think I would go Kendall.

[Chris Meaney]

Right. I'll go.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

He has a much longer history of getting it done. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I had to close my eyes and think hard.

[Mike Wright]

You did.

[Jason Moore]

Broncos at Raiders.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Welcome back to earth. Derek Carr, you get the. You get the Denver Broncos, the number one pass defense in the league. You have a Keep Talib. A game time decision. Obviously it bodes better for Derek Carr's.

[Andy Holloway]

There was. I was listening to the radio this morning. There was rumors in the bushes that Tom Khalid might be missing the whole rest of the year. Really? Yeah. I need to follow up. These are just rumors at this point.

[Mike Wright]

That's a far cry from game time decision.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he could be a game time decision every week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's. That's scary. I mean, he's. He's one of the best in the game. A difference maker for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Especially at poking eyeballs.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Gouging more like devonte Booker must start this week. You're rolling out Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders without hesitation against the Raiders 27th ranked pass defense. Even if we haven't loved everything we've seen out of Trevor Simeon.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think the real question that people have with this game is, is the Oakland passing game. Can you start? Can you trust Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree? And. And how low do you. How. Oh, oh, dying here. How low do you push Derek Carr below other quarterbacks? So let's talk about those.

[Mike Wright]

You start smoking?

[Jason Moore]

No, man. Maybe I need to smoke it.

[Mike Wright]

Back when they were showing off the artwork in the olden days, they'd have a.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I'd have a pipe in one hand.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Look at my artwork.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree. That's the storyline from this game. The Broncos defense, this is that something gotta get.

[Andy Holloway]

It's contagious.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

What is happening?

[Jason Moore]

Our throats are dying.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my gosh. The Broncos defense is allowed just 19 receptions per game. Derek Carr has averaged 40 pass attempts per game. So what do you do if you are. If you're figuring out what to do on offense for Oakland? Are you. Are you trying to lean on Latavius Murray, Deandre Washington? Are you trying to think different?

[Andy Holloway]

I think you have to. I pumped the brakes on Derek Carr because I don't. He's not a plug and play guy to me. I've seen too many of his failures.

[Mike Wright]

Oakland is favored.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to be kidding me.

[Mike Wright]

No, they're at home.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't care.

[Mike Wright]

They're six and two.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't care.

[Mike Wright]

I think this is.

[Jason Moore]

Let me make an argument real quick. This is for Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree.

[Mike Wright]

Do it.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the thing with Denver. The reason you have this kind of these two unstoppable forces is because the passing, the passing offensive line, when they are just incredible in Oakland, Derek Carr has very little pressure on him and he has had the time. The reason that Denver's, you know, passing defense is so good is because they put on the pressure on the quarterback. They don't stop runs in the backfield because they are pinning their ears back and going for the quarterback. This game is going to be determined by whether or not Derek Carr will get pressured like he has not been this year by that Denver D line. That's what it comes down to. And so there is. There is a situation here where Oakland's offensive line actually wins out just in that situation. And if they do and you're down, keep to lib, then one of those wide receivers can actually have a decent game.

[Mike Wright]

Now, I'm not saying the Raiders win this game at home. They got real still. They. They take a stranglehold of the division and put themselves in a. In a totally different circumstance than they've been in a long, long time. This is. This is a big game. This is why I'm looking forward to this game maybe more than any game this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Big implications for sure.

[Jason Moore]

So I have both wide receivers as.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, where do you have them? Where do you have Cooper and Krabji? People freak out. They bench those guys against him.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, you can't bench them. But I expect lower things out of them. But I'm not like grabbing a waiver guy.

[Mike Wright]

I'm rooting for the Raiders.

[Jason Moore]

I have Cooper 29 and Crabtree 22 this week. So you've got them right on that. Wide receiver 2, wide receiver 3 range where you're probably. You should be starting them and tempering your expectations.

[Mike Wright]

We're going to move on to the Monday night game and then get into the daily dose with Chris Meaney.

[Jason Moore]

Bills at Seahawks.

[Mike Wright]

All right. The Bills take on the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle. The piece together wide receiver core in Buffalo does not bow. You know, it does not bode well for an offensive performance here from Tyrod Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

They got Percy.

[Mike Wright]

He's back. Yeah, that's kind of my point. Percy Harvin.

[Jason Moore]

When you need to sign Percy Harvin, things ain't going well.

[Andy Holloway]

So if it was like 2011, it'll be okay.

[Mike Wright]

So Jason, you said that McCoy played again.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, McCoy was practicing today again.

[Mike Wright]

Go up to Seattle and play against Seattle. Coming off an injury.

[Jason Moore]

So stupid. Don't do it, man. Don't do it, Rex. And it's not.

[Mike Wright]

Do they even get on the plane then if they, if they have to go to Seattle and play with Gillislee and Woods and Harvin, do you just, hey, we're going to skip this one.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, you could check out the Space Needle. It's Starbucks. I would still go just throwing it out there.

[Jason Moore]

The more that I think about this, the more that I am actually convinced McCoy's going to play because Rex Ryan is going to listen to his players, he's a players coach and McCoy is going to say he's fine to play. It's the wrong decision. I am adamant. The question now becomes you don't. Do you really play McCoy injured against Seattle. In Seattle like we've been talking about. Oh, hold on to. Hold on to Gilly, you know, and start McCoy if he plays. But let's say McCoy plays. Do you really want that? How did McCoy do last week in Miami?

[Mike Wright]

Well, how did he do the week before?

[Andy Holloway]

He at least does when he was healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Great.

[Mike Wright]

And you have to presume health.

[Jason Moore]

I do not have to presume health. Coming off of a hamstring injury that he just re aggravated the last time he tried to come out on it on one week. But he did not presume health there.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he didn't play last week. You're thinking two weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Two weeks ago. Yeah, he took a week off.

[Mike Wright]

He took a week off.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, two weeks ago.

[Mike Wright]

So I'm going. I am choosing to presume health after a one week absence. If he plays. Had the extra time this week. I don't think you could possibly sit Sean McCoy.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. I mean I have him. I have him statted like he's going to play and he's still at 12 for me because of the volume.

[Mike Wright]

What is Doug Baldwin rest of season?

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receiver 2 I think here's a problem for, for the Seattle Seahawks. The Bills defense are averaging over three sacks a game. That's number one in the league. The offensive line for Seattle is not the best unit in the league. They are in fact one of the worst. And Russell can't move and Russell cannot move. I mean you have a situation here where you want to talk about. It's a crazy world. A team is favored at home and possibly the best home field advantage for the Seattle Seahawks. If I had an almost upset of the week, I would click it right here because the Bills defense against an immobile Russell Wilson, all they need is a couple big plays from Tyrod Taylor and Percy Harmon.

[Mike Wright]

Revenge game for Harvin, by the way.

[Andy Holloway]

They didn't even play him in Seattle.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but Arvin comes back so I.

[Jason Moore]

Just, I'm over under on Harvard.

[Mike Wright]

Harvin get hurt in the second quarter or the first?

[Andy Holloway]

Come on. I'm presuming hell, Percy. All right, so I'm just. Jimmy Graham is a play for me. Baldwin. I mean you play him and then I guess the, the bigger question for me is the woke one but that's Christine Michael. Yeah, that's not even a big question because I'm playing him.

[Mike Wright]

He's touchdown machine and then CJ Pro size we said is a. He's a desperation play. He actually produced last week. He almost scored on a 45 yard reception. I think he put up 12 fantasy points because of four catches, four opportunities behind center running the ball and they said they want to give him more opportunities. So look, you drafted him. He. There's opportunity there. With CJ Spiller out, it seems like Prosis is going to get the chance. Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

He's a talented player.

[Mike Wright]

Right, Right. So we're going to move on now. Talk to Chris Meaney, give you some DFS knowledge.

[Jason Moore]

The Daily Dose.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we've been gone for a couple weeks here but we got in contact with Chris Meaney. We have located him. I think he was at the North Pole or something. Now that was of course what was going on but we brought him back because people need their fanduel advice. How are you doing today, Mr. Meaney?

[Chris Meaney]

Doing pretty well. Looking at this schedule though, guys, I'm not in love with it. I don't like the six teams on by.

[Andy Holloway]

So let's start at the top. We got quarterbacks. What are you looking at doing this week?

[Chris Meaney]

Up for quarterbacks this week, guys, like I. Like I mentioned with, you know, some of the buys and some of these quarterbacks. I know Dak Prescott's got a pretty good matchup against Cleveland. Everybody always wants to play against Cleveland, but this could be a run game and it could be in the situation and the second half where they just run the football. He's 7, 600 on FanDuel, but I'm just looking at Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees at the top. I mean, it just. It's so safe. I mean, Aaron Rodgers up against the Colts, he just throwing the ball a ton. 38 times. 56, 42, 45. That's the last four games. Seven touchdowns in his last two. You're going to have to pay up for him at 91, but I have no problem with it. And then Drew Brees, The San Francisco 49ers are just a joke. I mean, they're just awful in every aspect of the game, especially defensively. So Breeze at $8,600. I like him and I'll get to a couple wide receivers, but his favorite target seems to be Michael Thomas lately, so I'm definitely on board with that. And then on the flip side of that, I just kind of, you know, was given a lot of heat to the 49ers. Colin Kaepernick, 140 rush yards in the last two games. I think he's more of a GPP tournament play. I wouldn't trust him in a head to head in a 50 50, but I think it's $7,200 against the Saints. Maybe he can connect with Torrey Smith and a deep ball. You know, maybe Carlos Hyde is completely healthy in this game and he can catch a few balls for him, but Kaepernick is just making things happen with his legs and that's what we love.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's move it over to the wide receiver position. Who are we going up? You're going big. You got some cheapies.

[Jason Moore]

What are you.

[Andy Holloway]

What's your plan this week?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, I'm not really spending up again. I did mention Dak Odell Beckham. He even said himself he's not 100%. He's more like 85%. That Eagles defense has been pretty good this year. Antonio Brown is Antonio Brown. $8,700 if you're going to get Big Ben back here this weekend. I know it's a divisional matchup and those teams Play each other pretty tight, but you can't go wrong with Antonio Brown. Usually this guy's up in the $9,000 range. So at $8,700, that's a. That's a steal. Dez Bryant, 14 targets last week, four receptions, 100 plus yards, scored a touchdown. Probably would have scored two or three if it was Romo throwing the ball, not Dak. But I'm fine with those guys. A little bit cheaper down, though. Devonte Adams, $7,100 against the Colts. I'm just looking at that game in particular guys, the total. Saints 49ers, 52 and then Colts, Packers, 54 points. You got to look at that stuff. 30 targets in the last two weeks for Adams. I don't even care if Montgomery or Cobb are playing. I like Adams. Sanders at $6,800. 75 targets this week. He's got Oakland or 75 targets on the year. He's got Oakland. Imagine, 75 targets, that's a must play. Everybody's down on Allen Robinson, so this is a perfect time to maybe play him. I know against the Chiefs, it's not great, but they've been giving up some big plays here and there. $6,700. Bortles has just been a joke so far. And Dante Moncrief, guys came back last week, nine targets, scored a touchdown, $6,100. In fact, his last 10 games with Andrew Luck, he's got seven touchdowns. In those three games, he didn't have a touchdown. Two of them came against Denver. We know what they do. And then last year against Carolina when they had a good defense. And then I mentioned Michael Thomas. $5,800, 42 receptions, leads that team. Six targets, six grabs, 63 yards against Seattle in a tough matchup. The week before that, 10 grabs, 130. And there's a lot going on in San Diego. You know, if. If there's some injuries that Benjamin doesn't play. Tyrell Williams is 50, $600. Two of his last three games have been bad. But again, against Denver, you saw what he did against Atlanta. 140 yards and seven grabs. And then Inman is $5,500, 13 targets in his last two weeks. So there are a couple little sneaky plays there. If there's no Benjamin and I don't think he's going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Love it. Let's move over to the running back position. How are you addressing it?

[Chris Meaney]

I'm just. It's kind of chalk, actually. I know west or Kendrick west is going to be popular. You got to keep that in mind. If you're playing in a head to head or 50, 50s, you're most likely going to go up against West. 50 $600. He was okay last week. 14 for 52 couple catches, looks like. Well, actually it is. Nick Foles is going to play a lot of checkdowns. West was good last year, over 4 yards per carry. He had three games in a row with three touchdowns when he was the guy. Devontae Booker is a little bit more expensive, but 80 total yards in the last two games, two touchdowns. He caught five balls last week against Oakland. And then Zeke again. This might be the game script where he just runs a lot, especially in the second half. I'm sure Alfred Morris is going to get sprinkled in there, but at $9,200, you're going to have to pay up. But it's a great matchup against Cleveland. That guy just runs so hard. And then in another tournament play, you can go theoretic. Three games over 20 plus points and six games this season. He's got 43 targets and 34 catches. I like him a lot. At $6,600, sports is not a guy you can trust. But it seems like he's the guy that Doug Peterson likes and not Ryan Matthews.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's. It's been much maligned on this show. All right, let's strap on the the sewer boots. Let's wade through the tight ends. What are you doing? We know Jordan Reed is on by, so one of the big dogs is. Is out. Are you just. Is this Gronk or die?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, well, Gronk is out too.

[Mike Wright]

Gronk's out. Of course.

[Andy Holloway]

Everybody's out.

[Mike Wright]

What is the NFL?

[Andy Holloway]

What are you doing to me? What are you doing?

[Chris Meaney]

And this is why I think I'm so bummed about. I mean, Mike, we've been talking about this all year, about how the Titan positions has been so bad. And then you got ride out Ifrto Gronko.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So Olson or bust. That's what I meant. That's where I was. That's what I meant to say. Of course.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, they're all out. So Pitt has got the most targets without a tight end, without a touchdown. That's not bad. Kelsey was good last week. 10 targets, 7 catches, 101 yards. Nick Foles, I mentioned him. Maybe he relies on his tight end a little bit. I'm going a little bit deeper. The narrative on Detroit, it's actually a thing. Eight touchdowns allowed. We saw C.J. fedoric get a Touchdown last week. Rudolph is a decent play at five, but I'm going to go just the bare minimum. I hate this position. I know you hate it, too. $4,500 is the minimum for Lance Kendricks. I know it's not great. Oh, this is what we're talking about here. The tight end position. 15 targets, 12 grabs, 89 yards, a touchdown his last two weeks. He's got seven plus targets in three of his last four games. Maybe there's something there. Case Keenum is not great. Carolina is good at stopping the run, but they've had some issues with, you know, stopping the pass. So maybe there's something there with Kendrick. I mean, who knows? It's $4,500.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I like that approach. And then do you have any tight end or, I'm sorry, defenses that you like this weekend?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, I'm just paying up. Bortles, I mentioned how awful he's been. So kcd, Denver D against Oakland. I know Oakland was so good last year, but you can't just rely on, you know, Cooper and Crafter to have games last year, week 16. I mean, Cooper had eight targets, zero catches against that defense. So Oakland probably going to struggle against Denver, Dallas, against Cleveland. And I like the Eagles. I've been liking them all year. I mean, they just score points. 12.6 fantasy points per game on FanDuel. That's the second most out of anybody going this week and the most is Minnesota. So if you want to save a little bit of dough, you can do that with Philadelphia at $4,600.

[Andy Holloway]

Love it. The Foot Clan, I'm sure, is very happy that you are back. Thank you for joining us and hopefully there are no interferences for next week and we'll get to talk to you again. So thank you once again to Chris Meaney. We'll talk to you. Talk to you a little bit later, my friend. Love having.

[Chris Meaney]

Love being on, guys. Thanks for having me. Good luck with all your plays.

[Mike Wright]

All right, special thanks to Chris Meaney once again for delivering some of that DFS goodness. If you like playing FanDuel, I believe you can go to FanDuel.com footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

If you haven't tried, if you haven't.

[Mike Wright]

Tried FanDuel before, you want to give it a shot, you get some free entries. We forgot something at the top of the show that we just plain shouldn't forget. Or did we? Or did we?

[Jason Moore]

But Clan Friday.

[Mike Wright]

Because we haven't given enough stuff away for free.

[Jason Moore]

It's true.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Is that. Isn't that what we normally do?

[Jason Moore]

It's too late.

[Andy Holloway]

You already said it.

[Mike Wright]

No, what do we normally do?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. $5.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

For supporting the show. We really appreciate it.

[Mike Wright]

All right, that does it for Friday's episode. Hopefully you're well on your way to a victory last night. Didn't hurt you too bad or you had those guys on your team. Good luck in week number nine. Thank you for listening to the show, supporting the show. We'll be back here on Monday as always with more fantasy football goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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