Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 14 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Playoff Madness

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 14 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Playoff Madness

Release Date: December 12, 2016
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Introduction

In this engaging Week 14 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve deep into the tumultuous world of fantasy football, analyzing the week's standout performers, disappointments, emerging talents, and pivotal playoff implications. Skipping the usual banter and advertisements, the trio offers listeners astute insights and actionable advice to navigate the high-stakes fantasy playoffs.

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Disappointing Performances

The hosts open the discussion by addressing the week's myriad of underperforming players commonly referred to as "poopers." Andy Holloway reflects on the unpredictability of players like Mike Evans, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, and James Winston, emphasizing the difficulty in forecasting these performances:

Andy Holloway [01:07]: "You cannot predict epic failure in these guys. But you can assemble a roster that affords you some margin to survive."

Jason Moore concurs, sharing a listener's sentiment about a particularly lackluster playoff matchup:

Jason Moore [02:10]: "Someone sent me a message and said this is the worst playoff matchup they've ever seen."

The trio highlights the importance of depth and strategic roster assembly to weather such disappointments, ensuring that struggling players are counterbalanced by equally underperforming opponents.

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League Management: Introducing Rule Changes

A segment of the conversation focuses on enhancing league dynamics through rule modifications. Responding to a listener's query from Twitter about gently introducing new league rules and scoring changes, Jason Moore and Andy Holloway provide a step-by-step approach:

Jason Moore [04:50]: "Step one, you've already got out of the way which is do it now. And I would always put it to a vote."

Andy Holloway [05:37]: "Don't be reactionary about the rule change... do a little postseason write-up and summarize how all the teams did and then introduce a few ideas and take a vote early so that people can prepare their draft based on the new rule changes."

Mike Wright adds, underscoring the necessity of assertiveness when proposing significant changes:

Mike Wright [06:25]: "Sometimes you need to be gentle like a baseball bat though. Just..."

Andy Holloway [06:30]: "...it’s not always gentle."

The hosts advocate for transparent communication and unanimous decision-making to ensure smooth transitions and maintain league harmony.

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Weekly Rewind: Injuries and Key Events

In the Weekly Rewind, the hosts recap significant injuries and events that impacted Week 14 performances:

• Melvin Gordon exited late in the game with leg and hip injuries but remains "okay" pending an MRI.
• Dion Lewis anticipates stepping up amidst injuries to teammates.
• Matthew Stafford battled a dislocated finger yet secured a victory with a game-winning touchdown.
• Alshon Jeffrey returns from suspension, available on waivers in 63% of leagues.

Jason Moore emphasizes caution with injured players:

Jason Moore [08:29]: "If they do play him, you're not worried about him being iffy because why would they play him iffy?"

Andy Holloway and Mike Wright discuss strategic decisions regarding active injured players, highlighting the balance between opportunity and risk.

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Stud Muffins: Top Performers

The Stud Muffins segment spotlights standout performers who excelled during Week 14:

• Matt Ryan delivered three touchdowns without relying on Julio Jones.
• Le'Veon Bell dominated with 38 carries, totaling 236 yards and 34 receiving yards.
• Bilal Powell showcased his versatility with 29 carries for 145 yards and two touchdowns, alongside five receptions.
• Carlos Hyde impressed with 17 carries for 193 yards, demonstrating elite efficiency.

Andy Holloway praises Matt Ryan's consistent performance:

Andy Holloway [14:13]: "He didn't need Julio."

Jason Moore highlights Bilal Powell's potential as a valuable waiver pickup:

Jason Moore [29:18]: "Bilal Powell can get the job done. ... he's going to be the type of waiver wire pickup ... that can help you win a championship if Matt Forte stays out."

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Raising Canes Rising Stars: Emerging Players

In the Raising Canes Rising Stars segment, the hosts identify emerging talents poised to impact Week 15 and the playoffs:

• Tevin Coleman stands out as a reliable option, especially with potential Julio Jones absences.
• Atlanta Falcons DST emerges as a strong defensive pick with favorable playoff matchups ahead.
• Zach Ertz and Tyreek Hill receive commendations for their performances, though concerns loom over upcoming strong defenses.

Andy Holloway underscores Tevin Coleman's importance:

Andy Holloway [31:25]: "Tevin Coleman can get his way into the end zone next week... he's my raising canes rising star."

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Pooped in His Big Boy Pants: Disappointments

This segment focuses on the week's most disappointing performers who let fantasy teams down:

• Drew Brees struggled, going nine quarters without a touchdown.
• Jameis Winston underperformed against the Saints despite expectations.
• Devonte Booker and Jimmy Graham missed crucial plays and touchdown opportunities.
• Terrell Pryor was harshly criticized by Pacman Jones and deemed "garbage" by the hosts.

Andy Holloway lists several underperformers, emphasizing the need to reevaluate or drop these players:

Andy Holloway [43:23]: "Terrell Pryor, Mike Evans, Larry Fitzgerald disappeared. Nothing from Alan Robinson, Kelvin Benjamin, nothing."

Jason Moore advises caution, urging fantasy managers to monitor player performance closely:

Jason Moore [45:27]: "If you're in a keeper league, make sure you go pick up C.J. Anderson."

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Monday Night Game Preview: Ravens vs. Patriots

As the episode nears its end, the hosts turn their attention to the highly anticipated Monday Night game between the Baltimore Ravens and the New England Patriots. They discuss fantasy implications, potential disappointments, and strategic plays:

• Disappointment Predictions: Andy Holloway predicts Smith as a potential letdown, while Mike Wright focuses on Senor Mitchell, and Jason Moore zeros in on Malcolm Mitchell.

  Jason Moore [52:19]: "Malcolm Mitchell."

• Performance Predictions: Mike Wright expresses cautious optimism, favoring the Ravens defense's ability to limit scoring:

  Mike Wright [52:35]: "I want to pick the Ravens. I don't think I have the courage to do it. But I will take the Ravens to cover."

• Player Focus: The discussion highlights key running backs like Dion Lewis and how defensive strategies might influence their fantasy value.

  Jason Moore [53:10]: "Talent is the only way to beat that defense. And so Dion Lewis has it over James White."

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Conclusion

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts encourage listeners to engage with the forthcoming Waiver Wire Show and utilize resources like fantasyjocks.com for winning strategies. They reiterate their commitment to helping fantasy managers secure the "Foot Clan Title" through insightful analysis and dedicated support.

Andy Holloway [54:25]: "Good luck this week. We'll be back with you all week long. Very excited to get you that Foot Clan title."

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Notable Quotes

• Andy Holloway [01:07]: "You cannot predict epic failure in these guys. But you can assemble a roster that affords you some margin to survive."
• Jason Moore [04:50]: "Step one, you've already got out of the way which is do it now. And I would always put it to a vote."
• Mike Wright [09:00]: "He would have a light jaunts and."
• Andy Holloway [14:13]: "He didn't need Julio."
• Jason Moore [29:18]: "Bilal Powell can get the job done. ... he's going to be the type of waiver wire pickup ... that can help you win a championship if Matt Forte stays out."
• Andy Holloway [43:23]: "Terrell Pryor, Mike Evans, Larry Fitzgerald disappeared. Nothing from Alan Robinson, Kelvin Benjamin, nothing."

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For more insights and to join the Fantasy Football community, visit fantasyjocks.com and follow the hosts on Twitter: @AndyHollFF, @JasonFFL, and @ff_hitman.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, welcome to the show.

[Mike Wright]

Pick yourself up off the floor, maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, just hold on, hold on. Hang in there.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Hang on to the ledge. I don't know what's going on.

[Jason Moore]

Or celebrate.

[Andy Holloway]

Or celebrate. This is a. Just a crazy week. I think the predominant assumption in the fantasy community is that we will spend the entirety of the show on the pooped their big boy pants. But you know what I say? I say this. Flush it away.

[Mike Wright]

Sit down.

[Andy Holloway]

Flush. Flush those thoughts away. No, we will get into all of the disappointing performances.

[Mike Wright]

We now have a toilet sound effect.

[Andy Holloway]

I just added it this morning.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, after a week like that. Here's my. Here's my whole take on the week. I tweeted something last night. I said, basically, you won fantasy football by having Lev Bell or the Atlanta Falcons defense or some random allotment of players. That just worked out. But here's the honest truth about the week, because many of you won. Many of you may not have won if you went up against those opponents or some of the plethora of great fantasy options this week. Disappointed you like Mike Evans or Drew Brees or Russell Wilson or James Winston or. The list will go on and on, including Mr. Moncrief. But here's the honest truth. You cannot predict epic failure in these guys. But you can assemble a roster that affords you some margin to survive. And the hope is that if you had a struggling player, your opponent had a struggling player. I saw you played Big Ben, even if you had Breeze.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I saw. Someone sent me a message and said this is the worst playoff matchup they've ever seen. And it was. Every play, every single player in our pooped in the big boy pants segment coming up was on both teams. And this was a playoff. And the rosters were loaded, man. I mean, these were good teams full of great players. And the final scores, like 40 to.

[Andy Holloway]

41 in our dynasty league. Jason is in a matchup on one side of the bracket in which I have. It's like 130 to 129.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Tom. Tom. No, it's 130. So people can root for this. I need Tom Brady to not score 10 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Or I'm going to lose with 130 points.

[Andy Holloway]

The other side of the bracket, the. Both teams are in the 40s.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So that just to illustrate the point you're making.

[Jason Moore]

Ridiculous and ridiculous. Thanks, Levy. I'm Bell.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully your depth changes helped, your last minute changes helped. I know a lot of people that did ensure Julio with Taylor Gabriel survived and thrived and but yeah, I mean even the David Johnson's of the world, the Jordan Reeds of the world did not carry you this week.

[Mike Wright]

Well, to be fair, David Johnson still had a solid game. I mean he was over 100 yards from scrimmage again.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Mike Wright]

And Jordan Reed was, you know, on the field for like 10 snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

Everything this week is measured in percentages of a Le'Veon Bell. Wow. Le'Veon Bell is now a full mathematical measurement form.

[Jason Moore]

If Le'Veon Bell is 100% right then we are going to use some small.

[Andy Holloway]

Numbers for everyone else the figures are going to be small. So studs and duds on the show today. We've got rising stars. We're going to get you ready for week 15. Obviously you got the Monday night game tonight. That's going to impact a ton of fantasy outcomes. I mean you got Brady and you have Edelman and you know Kenneth Dixon.

[Mike Wright]

And Terrence west, the new hotness, Malcolm Mitchell that everyone wanted to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Yeah. So a lot of fantasy implications decided tonight. But if you are looking ahead now, we'll also get you ready for that with injury reports. Everything you need to know it's going to be look, you're on your way to a foot clan title. That's the goal here. We're going to try to get you as ready as we can. So we've got rising stars, we've got guys to pay attention to for next week. Quick question of the day From Twitter @JMR Tennis Jimmer Tennis Jimmer Tennis writes in how would you gently introduce new league rules and scoring changes for next season? What method would you take?

[Jason Moore]

This is a very good, well timed question because part of how you introduce new rules is win. And now is a very good time to do that. Not all the every player is still kind of paying attention to what's going on. It's not the off season yet but you need to do it before the next year. You can't do it mid year. So step one, you've already got out of the way which is do it now. And I would always put it to a vote. Hopefully you have some communication channel, Facebook messaging group or a slack channel or some kind of if you guys use the forums on whatever website that hosts your fantasy league, bring up this rule change, say why you want to do it. Like hey, let's get rid of kickers that would be my highest recommendation.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say this though. Don't be reactionary about the rule change. If it's something that is directly affecting this week's performance, it will seem like sour grapes. If you go out and try to introduce a rule change. If that's the case for what you're trying to adjust, I would just. I do a little postseason write up and summarize how all the teams did and then introduce a few ideas and take a vote early so that people can prepare their draft based on the new rule changes. That's the problem. You introduce it late in the season or during the season. People didn't draft based on those scoring changes.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So you want to give people a chance to. You don't introduce a keeper league in Week 9 because people didn't draft and plan around a keeper league. You want a keeper league. Decide it, you know, in the off season, prepare people for it. And if it's unanimous, it doesn't matter when you do it because everybody's on board.

[Mike Wright]

Sometimes you need to be gentle like a baseball bat though. Just.

[Andy Holloway]

Just saying as a commissioner or as.

[Mike Wright]

A bringing up a rule change, you got to fight.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If there's some ridiculousness in there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Just. Just saying it's not always gentle.

[Andy Holloway]

No one's allowed to have Levy on Bell. That's the.

[Jason Moore]

That's a new rule.

[Andy Holloway]

New rule.

[Mike Wright]

If the games in the snow, I get a bonus. 13 points.

[Andy Holloway]

A snow bonus. Yeah, that's very common. If you want to follow us on Twitter you can do so at the FF Bonus Ballers. You can follow me at Andy Holloway, follow jason at jason ffl and follow the unverified one at ff hitman. You can check us out on YouTube as well. We are a year round fantasy football podcast. We are debuting some interesting things on YouTube during the off season as well. We have a regular shows but we'll do some show after the shows and have some fun on there.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, it's back.

[Andy Holloway]

It'll be back. And check out the website, the fantasy footballers.com youm can submit questions to the show. Check out everything we have to offer our awesome group of writers submitting things like. I mean that weather article was so valuable this week. Jason's dabbing. Jason just dabs. Sneeze.

[Jason Moore]

I had to sneeze. Got a dab. You got to do what you got to do.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, not a lot of dabbing done by some of the studs this week. So we're going to get into that. But first, first guys, let's do the rewind.

[Jason Moore]

Weekly rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

In things you didn't want to see. News. Melvin Gordon didn't have the decency to go down late in the game.

[Jason Moore]

Oof. No good.

[Andy Holloway]

Carded off the field with the leg and a hip injury. Did not return. Source said he is okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

It's getting an mri.

[Andy Holloway]

Being okay doesn't really help your fantasy team.

[Mike Wright]

Him being okay doesn't mean that he's. He's healthy. I mean, you could just say, hey, hey, Gordon. How you doing? I'm doing okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's too early to know. He's getting an MRI today, so we will have word as to how severe the hip injury is.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's what you don't do. You don't rush back your future. Your stalwart running back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

If you're out of the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Out of the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with that. Which means to me that if he's back this week, I have no concerns in playing him. I would. I would throw him right in there.

[Andy Holloway]

That's it. No, that's a good take. So if they do play him, you're not worried about him being iffy? Because why would they play him iffy?

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. If they play him, then he really is good to go, and it shouldn't be a case where he's going to react.

[Andy Holloway]

Kenneth Farrow.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. If you got it. Anything left in the old fab tank?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, would you sign him or.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Bilal Powell. Oh, if you knew Forte was out because Forte left the game with a.

[Mike Wright]

Knee injury, that would be my man.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason is like, oh, we'll talk about.

[Jason Moore]

Him in a minute. That's not even a question.

[Mike Wright]

But for the people in the Charger situation, it's Kenneth Farrell. He's. He would be the guy to pick up. And this is why we do talk about saving at least a couple bucks of the Fab, because right around the playoffs, weird things happen. And let's say maybe you saved a dollar and your opponent next week, the Melvin Gordon owner, does not have any dollars. You're out of luck there, my friend, because you're gonna get blocked.

[Andy Holloway]

Couple of concussion reports. CJ Fedorowicz left with a possible concussion. And Shane Vereen, he's back.

[Mike Wright]

He's back out.

[Andy Holloway]

He's back out. Yeah. Shane Vereen suffered a concussion that meant a little bit more passing down work for Rashad Jennings and Paul Perkins. So monitor those situations. Ryan Tannehill is likely done for the year with an ACL injury despite. Despite defeating my Cardinals.

[Jason Moore]

Now, you're the Dolphins. You're, you're an eight win.

[Andy Holloway]

I got to be honest, that stunk for Cardinal fans yesterday losing that game. I'm going. My son turns 8 years old tomorrow and I'm taking him to the Cardinal game on Sunday and I really wanted that game to matter.

[Jason Moore]

Chandler.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it does matter. It matters for fantasy players. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Is the worst.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that your, that's your takeaway?

[Jason Moore]

That's my takeaway. But Matt Moore now will be thrust in to the lineup.

[Mike Wright]

He's capable and their, their schedule just for real life playoffs type of a situation. It could be worse.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this. I, I can't imagine wanting to rely on Matt Moore. He's got a lot going on right now. He's having a baby today. Did you guys know this?

[Mike Wright]

Congratulations.

[Jason Moore]

Wife is being induced today. So it's a big day for Matt Moore. He's becoming a starting quarterback in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

Well, here's just because I want to follow up on that. Next week they play the Jets. A team that is phoning it in. They quit.

[Andy Holloway]

They won.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but still.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, they beat, they play.

[Mike Wright]

They beat the 49ers.

[Andy Holloway]

I know it was quit versus quit.

[Mike Wright]

Someone had to win and then the.

[Andy Holloway]

Next not have allowed that.

[Mike Wright]

The next week they play Buffalo. Maybe they have a head coach. And then they play the Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

Hamstring. Dante Moncrief left the game with a hamstring injury.

[Mike Wright]

Not before he dropped a couple passes.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the worst Hoopers of the week. Matthew Stafford. Dislocation, torn ligaments in the middle finger. Played with a glove the final three quarters and will have to play with a glove the rest of the year. Still pulled out the victory with his legs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Ran in the game winning touchdown and we'll have to see how he does in practice this week. I think he will be out on the field rest of the season and probably someone you can still play even through the injury. Really I think I, depending on the matchup, you know, I think Matthew Stafford can fight through it. But we'll have to see how he does in practice.

[Mike Wright]

I believe it's his middle finger. It is on his throwing hand, correct?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

No thanks.

[Andy Holloway]

No thanks.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm just saying I'm. We've. We've seen quarterbacks with dislocated fingers and it just does not end up well.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this to support your, your issue and it's not a guarantee that these are the causes when Carson Palmer.

[Mike Wright]

That's exactly what I'm thinking.

[Jason Moore]

Hurt his finger last season. It certainly seemed to Affect him. Derek Carr has had a couple of bad games. I don't. I don't say that that's because of that pinky. Since.

[Andy Holloway]

That pinky one. Since the pinky. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Was not a. Was not a good game.

[Andy Holloway]

What about that surprise and active for Theo Riddick? We didn't expect just.

[Mike Wright]

His injury was a little worse than we thought. Yeah, I mean, he'll. He should be back next week.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want to have to watch Dwayne Washington play football anymore in his stead. I mean, that's.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it's either Dwayne Washington or Joy Bell. Pick your poison.

[Andy Holloway]

Zach Zenner.

[Jason Moore]

Give me Zach.

[Mike Wright]

Zach Zenner was. I think he had a concussion. He did as well.

[Jason Moore]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

He left surprisingly high amount of positive feedback over our Val Kilmer Mark Twain discussion. I know that's not news. I'm about to get into the stud muffins. But I've seen a ridiculous amount of positive. Like Val Kilmer apparently needs to be a slightly larger focus on the show.

[Mike Wright]

Hey. More Val. I'm fine with that.

[Andy Holloway]

He had that, like, run of movies where he was everything.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then poof.

[Mike Wright]

And then poof. He ends up in McGruber.

[Jason Moore]

That's funny. Last piece of newsworthy information. Alshon Jeffrey is returning from his suspension. He's only owned right now in 63% of leagues, so he is available on a lot of waivers. Granted. He's got Matt Barkley throwing.

[Mike Wright]

Doesn't matter. I'd pick him up.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll start with the good. We'll start with the good. And that was Mr. Matt Ryan. Three touchdowns. Carving them up.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't need Julio.

[Mike Wright]

I doubted you, Matt Ryan. And you made you prove you doubted him. I did.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of people. I did not.

[Jason Moore]

I see. I think as soon as Julio was ruled out, a lot of people looked.

[Mike Wright]

No Julio, no Sanu.

[Andy Holloway]

No. I was asked that a lot. And I actually took the other approach. I just. I basically just said, he'll make his hay through the. The running backs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Which he kind of did. Kind of didn't.

[Mike Wright]

I had when I was explaining and I said, I mean, of any year, this year is far more different for Matt Ryan that he's not force feeding one target. But the couple years back when Julio Jones or Matt Ryan was a fantasy force. Julio Jones goes out for the year with his foot. Matt Ryan just fell apart.

[Andy Holloway]

San Francisco next week for the Falcons. Then Carolina, New Orleans. I mean, that looks great regardless of Julio Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Aaron Rodgers and Ryan Tannehill is in this segment.

[Mike Wright]

Aaron Rodgers. It should have been in the news that, I mean, he left hobbled. He has a calf situation. It's not expected to be serious, but it's a situation to pay attention to.

[Andy Holloway]

I found it interesting that Brett Hundley was throwing the ball as much as he was at that point in the game. I found that that could have been indicative of giving him reps and running plays in preparation of a possible start.

[Mike Wright]

Jic.

[Andy Holloway]

But they won the game. They're fighting for the playoffs. I can't imagine Rogers not playing. Not playing, but interest. You're right. It's worth bringing up, but he had three touchdowns and carved him up in three quarters. Basically. Yesterday, a couple of times, Jason was sitting there watching the games with me, and he. And he's telling me, do you know who the top five quarterbacks in fantasy are right now? And it was like, Sam Bradford, Trevor Simeon, Ryan Tannehill.

[Jason Moore]

It was gross. I told you at one point because I was really worried. My. My start of the week was Matthew Stafford, and my stream of the week was Trevor Simeon. Trevor Simeon. And I'm like, man, these guys are sucking. I feel so bad. And then I'd look them up. I'm like, oh, they're the number five and number seven quarterback. The whole league is sucking.

[Andy Holloway]

I wanted. I wanted to say this at the beginning, and I hope you understand this out there. We all have our teams that we're rooting for here. I can tell you there is nothing like the pressure. And it's good, right? But the pressure that I feel in delivering for you guys as listeners of the show during the playoffs, when Sammy Watkins caught the touchdown, that was the single most jubilant moment of yesterday for me because I hung so much on him having a good game. And he didn't, you know, he didn't take blow up, but he had a. He had an all right game. But for me, like, if you're doubting out there that we care about your teams, do not doubt it. You should have seen the trepidation. Jason was just saying he felt bad about his starts because he's sitting there and we're all doing the same thing. We're all going. We're rooting for these guys that we've planted a flag on, you know, and when one goes wrong, you know, Russell Wilson's terrible game, I'll take the lumps and I'll weep with you because I, you know, you didn't see that coming.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we want 10,000 hashtag Foot Clan titles out there.

[Andy Holloway]

10 million.

[Mike Wright]

Let's start with 10 billion. You guys are.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, Ryan Tannehill was one of the best quarterbacks of the week with three touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Number three on the week.

[Andy Holloway]

How many people started Ryan Tannehill against the Cardinals?

[Mike Wright]

I imagine it's two people.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The running backs. Stud muffins.

[Jason Moore]

There's a. There's its own tier here.

[Andy Holloway]

I. Yeah. There's love bell. 38 for 38 carries.

[Mike Wright]

And that is correct.

[Andy Holloway]

That's correct.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't even believe it.

[Jason Moore]

He had almost 300 all purpose yards.

[Andy Holloway]

That's real.

[Jason Moore]

As a running back. 38 carries.

[Mike Wright]

Because it was. He wasn't even. It's not like he was just getting smashed every carry. I mean he would. He would have a light jaunts and.

[Andy Holloway]

Then maybe he actually walked into the end zone once. Yeah, he did. 38 for 236 and 34 for 62 through the air. Maybe one of those rule changes isn't to take him out, but he counts as two running back spots with that many carries.

[Mike Wright]

Like inventory in an rpg.

[Jason Moore]

Crazy is that. You know, I believe he even finished where the second highest fantasy producer. If you doubled his score.

[Andy Holloway]

All right there.

[Jason Moore]

Not really. If he. If you doubled his score, then you get Le'Veon Bell. So if you had Levy on Bell, you basically won.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. It was a heck of a game for him. And the game stayed close enough to where they didn't need to pull him. Like the game just was teetering on that line. Bilal Powell had a monster game after 14. Went down 29 carries for 145 and 2. And on the other side. Talk about efficiency. Carlos Hyde, man alive. He looks 17 for 193. And just in case you want the math on that.

[Mike Wright]

Did we.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a solid 11.3 a carry.

[Jason Moore]

That's a first down every time you touch the ball.

[Mike Wright]

Did we mentioned the Matt Forte injury?

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like I did. I did mention the Matt Forte. He went down with the knee injury.

[Jason Moore]

We'll talk about it even more in.

[Mike Wright]

Because he. He heard a crackle and popping and he was in his knee.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to be having an MRI today.

[Mike Wright]

He'll. I think he'll miss some time. He was one snap away from Rice Krispies.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Not good.

[Jason Moore]

I got you. I was with you on that.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Carlos Hyde. Every time we looked up we were watching these games together. And you know, when we looked over to the Niners game, it was just Carlos Hyde was running free.

[Andy Holloway]

It seemed like every play he had about 11 yards and he did.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, and I've been saying this for, you know, I don't know, about two months. I think he is an absolute RB one. Next week, he gets Atlanta. Their defense is looking better and better, but I'm starting Carlos Hyde against any matchup right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy Hill had a good game against Cleveland. 25 for 1. 11 and 1.

[Mike Wright]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

This is Cleveland. His two best games of the year. A bunch of. Here's a bunch of players that did not let you down. Shady got. Got it taken care of through the passing game and scoring at the end. Lamar Miller.

[Jason Moore]

There's my boy.

[Andy Holloway]

Big game. Not a lot of confidence in the injury concerns. Alfred Blue.

[Mike Wright]

Blue was running a ton. I felt like every time I looked up, it was Blue. I'm like, oh, crap.

[Andy Holloway]

Tevin Coleman. Latavius Murray. Ty Montgomery. Todd Gurley. Got it done. So, yeah. Robert Kelly. Yeah. Doug Martin.

[Jason Moore]

Lot. A lot of good guys. I mean, for running backs. Running backs were not the position that lay you down. Your stalwart running backs, for the most part, did their job.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they did enough.

[Mike Wright]

Is there anyone in that list who you think. Yeah, this is. This won't continue.

[Andy Holloway]

Ty Montgomery.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So it's. You're not all back in on.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, I think he'll be all right, but I'm not. He had the least amount of carries of this group.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I believe c. Michael had 10 carries.

[Jason Moore]

So Starks, if they would make Ty Montgomery just their lead back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because he looks great as a running back when they hand him the ball up the middle, out to the side. He looks great.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he kind of is, but they just don't want the workload.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

You've got to use those little pinching fingers.

[Jason Moore]

Pinch zoom.

[Andy Holloway]

Gotta use beach. Is that how it sounds? Pinch zoom.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what I. Well, that's what I say when I do it.

[Andy Holloway]

So Mike and I, we're going to talk wider series. Mike and I are in a listener league playoff. We are battle right now.

[Mike Wright]

Mono Emano.

[Andy Holloway]

What do I need? I need the Baltimore defense To not score, what, seven or something?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, five or six.

[Andy Holloway]

Five or six?

[Mike Wright]

Five, six, seven.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you think, Jason? What's the. You going to handicap this one for us?

[Jason Moore]

You need the Baltimore defense to not score six. This is Patriots. I'm going to say 55% chance they do not.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're. You're in my favor.

[Jason Moore]

I am. I am in your favor, but just.

[Andy Holloway]

Score is 69.5 to 76.4.

[Mike Wright]

We're good.

[Jason Moore]

That is not. Yeah, I had a lousy Week 1.

[Andy Holloway]

Touchdown from the Ravens and all.

[Jason Moore]

Thankfully, I'm on the buy, so I'll see one of you guys later.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, maybe next week. So wide receivers that delivered. Man, Ty Hilton looks good right now. And you know what else? Dorsett looks so bad.

[Jason Moore]

He. He is so bad right now. And I want to bring this up because remember how. How bad devonte Adams was last year with the hall of Fame quarterback throwing the ball and he dropped it all the time.

[Andy Holloway]

You heard it here first. MVP 2017. Not MVP, Philip Dorsett.

[Jason Moore]

But I agree. I have this temptation when I watch Philip Dorsett drop these passes. I just want to. I want to just write him off.

[Mike Wright]

Bury him, cut him out.

[Andy Holloway]

You should ever.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you should for this year.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you should for next year, too.

[Jason Moore]

And maybe you're right. But I'm going to. I'm going to stay open to him next year.

[Andy Holloway]

The only way that next year matters to me is if Moncrie for Hilton are injured. I don't see why you would bank on Dorset coming back into the fold as a wide receiver. 3.

[Jason Moore]

Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson are not injured.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they're the one and two.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I'm saying. They're the one in zooms.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they were hurt. Cobb was out.

[Jason Moore]

What, for a game or so?

[Andy Holloway]

For a couple games.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, all right. No, fair enough. I mean.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's a thought. Just saying. Don't bury him yet.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just looked really bad. And you somehow turn that into a point in his favor for next year.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. He. He stinks. I'm just saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Ty held nine for 115 and one touchdown. Emmanuel Sanders. Mike start of the week, delivery. Delivering the goods. Tyreek Hill. We talked about him. Six for 66 and a touchdown. Don't forget about Tyreek, the freak. Jordy Nelson. Monster game again. Two touchdowns. J.J. nelson, his brother.

[Mike Wright]

You realize that J.J. nelson is on this list from one carry with two touches.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, both touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

So fantasy football people, like bad beats are out there. Yeah, there you go JJ Nelson, one of the top scoring wide receivers of the week. Two touches.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

A 56 yard touchdown run and an eight yard reception.

[Andy Holloway]

Three touchdown, three, three touches for DJax, but 102 and a touchdown. And Devonte Adams again, efficiency four for 104 and a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

What about Kenny Stills? Are you buying into no Stills at all?

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's not far away.

[Jason Moore]

Especially not without Ryan Tannehill now.

[Mike Wright]

Yep, very fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Other guys that did not let you down. Odell Beckham Jr. Finding that slant, slant and go and he means go. 4 for 94 and a touchdown. Demarius Thomas, 10 for 126.

[Jason Moore]

That's nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Him and Sanders both delivered for you. I had them back to back in my rankings too.

[Mike Wright]

I think I did as well. I mean it was the Titans secondary. You can beat them.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you think about the Sammy Watkins game? They have Cleveland next week. Watkins was 4 for 54 and a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

I like it. I mean, he's healthy, he's looking better, he's getting snaps. And that was for him to even finish 4 for 54 and one in that, in those conditions. I mean, if you looked at, look at Big Ben. I mean, he was throwing interceptions just all over the place. I mean there was wacky stuff going on in that game.

[Jason Moore]

And Dontrell Inman, I think is worth pointing out as well, he had another good game. Six for 71 and one. That's three weeks in a row with a touchdown for him. And if you go back, you know, to week eight or so, he's pretty much catching five balls a game. What do they got next? Coming up against Oakland, followed by Cleveland to finish out the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's not bad.

[Andy Holloway]

I think if you did not have the Falcons defense and you did not have Le'Veon Bell, one of the guys that won you this week was Tyler Ifer. Yeah, big performance from Tyler Ifr my.

[Jason Moore]

Start of the week. I'm just. No, I'm just saying because a lot of people and. What's funny? What's funny?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

I said, I said, you know, look, I know this guy's probably obvious, but there's going to be people who have Tyler IFR and someone else. And Mike, you played against one of them and you were so happy.

[Mike Wright]

He had, he had Zeus on the bench and after Thursday I thought, what a sucker. Zeus over 100 yards.

[Jason Moore]

I told you, I was like, I think I would still rather play Eifert. And he did pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Other efficiencies at tight end Zach Ertz had a great game. 10 for 112.

[Mike Wright]

He is balling out, man.

[Andy Holloway]

It made sense this week. It made sense. You know, Green, Beckham was going to be out. Matthews first game back from injury.

[Jason Moore]

So. So this coming week, every week, every week, Zach Ertz is, is on fire right now. He's got a great rapport going with Carson Wentz now. This coming week, though, he goes up against Baltimore, who's pretty much best against tight ends. So you've got good, hot on fire tight end against a great defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Against them at tight end, you don't know. I mean, it's hard to have other great options if you're already locked into. Zach hurts, you know, we'll talk about our matchups and tight ends to start this week. And maybe there's an option on your waiver wire that is better than Zach Ertz.

[Mike Wright]

I doubt it.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's hard to imagine four of.

[Mike Wright]

Six of the last weeks for Zach Ertz.

[Andy Holloway]

And what's bad, double digits. If he plays Baltimore and catches half as many passes, you're probably still pretty happy with Zach Ertz.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyle Rudolph delivered. Charles Clay had a good game.

[Jason Moore]

Finally got a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. And he made a big deal out of it. Travis Kelsey, we talked about him. Great game as well. So let's go ahead and talk about some of our favorite guys this week by clicking the breaking news button.

[Jason Moore]

Raising Canes Rising stars of the week.

[Mike Wright]

I'll tell you what, on the Twitter sphere, there is great joy. I've received great joy. I'm talking numerous, numerous tweets of people. Like, there is a cane's popping up.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I've gotten so many, so many Cane's construction tweets. And I said, you better prepare your mouth.

[Andy Holloway]

You're right.

[Mike Wright]

Prepare.

[Andy Holloway]

They're great. And now I. Now I'm distracted by food. Raising Cane's Rising stars of the Week. Some guys that we really like this week that can have a fantasy impact on your Week 15 matchups and your playoff matchups. For me, it's Tevin Coleman, guys.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, welcome back, Tevin.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Tevin Coleman. I told a lot of people that I felt pretty good about Coleman this week. If you wanted to start him, look there. There's only so much to go around without Julio Jones. But Coleman's an integral part. And look, Mike was facing Devonta Freeman, one of the poopers of the week. They gave the ball to Tevin Coleman. We just saw what Bilal Powell did to San Francisco. He ran hard and he ran well. And that's what Kevin Coleman can do.

[Mike Wright]

See what everyone is doing to San Francisco.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, and Coleman was an early season powerhouse. So if Julio misses more time, I think it's even more reason to love Tevin Coleman in next week's matchup. But even if Julio's back, I think you have to give him consideration. I mean, this is a juicy, juicy matchup. And if there's one thing we know about the Falcons, they're scoring touchdowns. It's hard for me to see Tevin Coleman not find his way into the end zone next week against San Francisco. So he's my raising canes rising star.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'll piggyback off of that because you just mentioned my rising star.

[Andy Holloway]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

You did?

[Andy Holloway]

San Francisco.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes. Oh, Play them. Play them early and often. No, it's Bilal Powell. Bilal Powell is a guy. If you remember back, if you were part of our ultimate draft kit and you had that you saw in our sleeper section. Bilal Powell was one of our sleeper selections in the draft season because he is extremely talented. And we thought, hey, Matt Forte is in a new location. He's a little older. If he can't get it done, watch out for Blal Powell because he can. We all know he has the talent to get it done. He showed us last year. Now we are wrong on Matt Forte. Matt Forte has been okay this year and he's been young enough to get the job done. But this knee injury could be serious. It's looking like it's way too early to tell if he. If Forte's out there this week, I'm not going to be shocked. But early indications are people would be surprised if Forte plays this week. This week they play the Dolphins. And if Bilal Powell is the only guy, he will be a workhorse back. And, and Bilal Powell can get the job done. We I know it was San Francisco, but you don't luck into 29 carries for 145 yards and two touchdowns, plus five receptions for 34 yards. That's talent. And when you match talent and opportunity against the Dolphins, who are just, they're a middle of the pack run defense. I love him. I think he's going to be the type of a waiver wire pickup like Tim Hightower was last year, that can help you win a championship if Matt Forte stays out.

[Andy Holloway]

If you had to start Cole, let's say Julio's out next week. Tevin Coleman or Bilal Powell.

[Jason Moore]

Assuming also that Forte is out. For me, it's Blal Powell. Without interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think it's just an opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

It's a matter of play.

[Andy Holloway]

It's efficiency versus I would play Tevin Coleman.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's fine. I think both will be nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Just reds. Yeah. Red zone versus quantity. But yeah, it's a. Both. Both great. Both great options.

[Mike Wright]

And this is, this is a first for this section that my rising star is not a single character. It is a multi group. It is the Atlanta Falcons dst. What we talked about these guys. The thought, the, the playoff schedule for the Falcons dst. Well, everyone's getting ready for the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

You know.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, the Patriots, they have a great schedule and they're a good defense. You have the Falcons, they have a great schedule, but I don't know, they're not a good system. Then they, they've been playing well. They've been playing well enough and then they come out and they just smash, smash the Rams. You think, oh well, it's the Rams golf next week. We've talked about. It's the 49ers and then the Panthers. So I have confidence now, I have confidence to start the Atlanta DST next week. Maybe you've missed out on, on stashing the Bills against the Browns. I think the Falcons are going to be a. Another great option here. Would you have Kaepernick who's likely to turn the ball over at least once or twice and then same with Cam Newton. I'm talking. This is a multi week type of a situation for the Falcons. You could ride them to the championship. It's very possible.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, those were the raising canes. Rising stars of the week. Feed your holiday party with a raising cane's tailgate. This year their 24 hour marinated cook to order chicken fingers will make anyone have a holly jolly holiday. Holly and jolly. And while you are there, don't forget to pick up raising canes gift cards for the perfect holiday gift. Right now by a $25 gift card, get a $5 bonus for free. That's a raising cane's kind of jolly. Mmm. Delicious. That's what I'm talking about. All right, moving on from the more delicious topics. We need to get into it now, guys. Are you ready?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I. Here's what I want to share with you guys.

[Mike Wright]

This is what everyone's been waiting for.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me, let me share some members of a special club and they're called the single digit quarterback clubs. Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, Jameis Winston, Derek Carr, Marcus Mariota and Philip Rivers.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Oops. Those are some pretty good quarterbacks there, Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

I hope you purchased some Kleenex to mop up the tears that these guys caused this week. And I hope, honestly, if you played one, which chances are pretty good. Chances are pretty good. If you played one, hopefully you played against one, because these guys let you down in a big way. I mean, the most disappointing. Who's the most disappointing for you?

[Jason Moore]

The most disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just gonna let it go. I'm gonna let them use.

[Jason Moore]

The most disappointing to me is Drew Brees. He led people to the playoffs, and this is two weeks in a row where he is yet to throw a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Eight quarters without a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Nine.

[Andy Holloway]

Nine.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on.

[Jason Moore]

Nine quarters without touchdown. He threw one to Brandon Cooks, but it got called back on review.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, because he dropped it.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. So it wasn't a touchdown. Well, so, Drew Bre. I mean, what do you do? Yeah, I'm letting it go all the way through. You got 20 seconds left, James.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. My, my, my poopiest pants of the week is Jameis Winston taking on the Saints. The.

[Jason Moore]

I got lured in the long play, the long stash. Waiting for this week. It didn't. It didn't.

[Mike Wright]

It worked out for Doug Martin, who the Buccaneers were crapping all over this week. Then Doug Martin goes out here as has a pretty solid game.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't work out for Mike Evans.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't work out for Jameis Winston. Dak Prescott last night. A lot of people counted on him. Mike, you won because Dak Prescott could not deliver in league of record.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So, I mean, where do you go from here? Because people want to know. I mean, let's say you survived the Drew Brees situation. Now you got to go play in Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you don't. I don't think you start Drew Brees on the road in Arizona. That being said, I am looking Forward to Week 16. Drew Brees at home is very different than Drew Brees on the road, and I expect that that game will be high scoring. The Jameis side as well. If Drew Brees is getting it done, then Jameis is forced to throw more.

[Andy Holloway]

So best bounce back candidate of this group.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, the best bounce back for me.

[Andy Holloway]

It'S probably Russell Wilson at home against the Rams.

[Jason Moore]

That's exactly what I was going to say.

[Mike Wright]

Against the Rams?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, against the Rams.

[Mike Wright]

Trap game.

[Jason Moore]

No, I know. The Rams played the Seahawks very well.

[Andy Holloway]

Seahawks just lost. They're coming home the Ram.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, just.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, you planted my flag, and I'm going down With Russ.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Because you're. I think you're going down then.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so who's your bounce back?

[Mike Wright]

My bounce. My bounce back of this list is. I wanted to say Big Ben, but he goes on the road against the Bengals. I would say my. The bounce back for me would be rivers of this group at home against Oakland. That's. That's why I would bounce back with.

[Andy Holloway]

If we're talking. What's yours, Jay?

[Jason Moore]

I said mine was Russell Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you agree with that? Okay, I did. Running backs, there were some that did let you down. Jason said most of them didn't. But Devonta Freeman, clearly six for six.

[Jason Moore]

Now, that was so bizarre. It wasn't that bizarre in the sense that what happened in that game was they got up early, the defense took over, and they didn't really need Freeman at all. I remember late into the game, it was like he had four carries, and that was just because they didn't need him. And so I don't expect that to be. I don't. I mean, we've seen. We've got a whole year to look at how they've used Freeman. They just didn't need him. They didn't give him the work. So more of the carries went Tevin Coleman's way. I don't think that that's a prescription. I think that was based on what happened. That being said, this coming week, you could see that game script happening again against, you know, another terrible team where Tevin Coleman does take over, like, like you spoke about in the Rising Stars. You know, I would still be happy to start both of those guys next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Ingram, Hightower. Terrible. Just terrible. Game script was awful in that one.

[Mike Wright]

On the Tampa Bay run defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

They're great. They're fully great. Devonte Booker, Jai and Spencer Ware let you down. Let me ask you guys this. Do you think that Thomas Rawls let people down this week?

[Jason Moore]

I don't think so.

[Andy Holloway]

Thomas Rawls, the game script hurt him bad.

[Jason Moore]

He might have disappointed 12 for 67 or something, especially while you watched, because he was running fantastic. He looked great. Every carry. He looked like what you hope for. But then the Seahawks were down so much. I mean, they lost the game 38 to 10. I remember at halftime telling you, Andy, like, you don't think that the Seahawks are actually going to get blown out. They just don't finish games getting blown out. And they did. So the game took him out. But he played well and he did enough. You know, in our. In our league of record format, he was basically at about 10 points where definitely a disappointment for what he could have done but didn't completely poop your team.

[Mike Wright]

The guy I want to talk about is rip for fantasy. Devonte Booker. Three for one.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

He had two for 10.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

Here's the problem with Devonte Booker and the confidence that the team has in him. Justin for set off the couch. He had the bag of Doritos. He's just chilling on the couch. And then Coops calls him up, says, hey, I need you, my man. I need you. Comes in, fumbles on his first carry. Justin for set. And they still go with Justin for set. Kubiak goes with Justin Forset after the fumble.

[Jason Moore]

This is just.

[Mike Wright]

You can't. You can't start Booker.

[Jason Moore]

This is one of those situations where no book Booker is. Is done. You're right. I think you probably. I mean, I mean, the schedule does not look good right for the Broncos coming up run wise. They're playing New England and Kansas City to finish out these next two weeks of playoffs. I'm not really starting Justin for set, even though he seems to be the guy. I think what this says is that if you're in a keeper league, make sure you go pick up C.J.

[Andy Holloway]

Anderson.

[Mike Wright]

C.J. anderson, meanwhile, is just laughing hysterically.

[Andy Holloway]

I doubt it. His team's losing. They're not gonna make the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

All he cares about is fantasy. You know that, Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

It's funny because he's the one guy that hates fantasy so much.

[Jason Moore]

It's all a ruse.

[Andy Holloway]

I. You know what, listeners were right. We could have spoke about poopers the entire show.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I'm looking at this wide receiver list. You guys. Did you guys hear.

[Mike Wright]

Still scrolling.

[Jason Moore]

When the quarterbacks were that bad, Obviously even more wide receivers are bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you guys hear Pacman Jones talking about Terrell Pryor?

[Mike Wright]

I heard he referred to him as garbage, I believe.

[Andy Holloway]

Garbage. Listen, Garbage, aside from Terrell, how big.

[Mike Wright]

Is it for you?

[Jason Moore]

Garbage.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm happy we won.

[Mike Wright]

All right, cool.

[Jason Moore]

Terrell Pry, Garbage.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he had some strong opinions.

[Mike Wright]

Come on now.

[Andy Holloway]

That was exactly accurate. If you talk about fantasy production. Terrell Pryor, Mike Evans, Larry Fitzgerald disappeared. Nothing from Alan Robinson, Kelvin Benjamin, nothing. Now those are DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, do I have to. I'm going to keep talking until you interrupt me.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you finish.

[Andy Holloway]

Randall Cobb, Brandon Marshall, Mari Cooper, Jameson Crowder, Jeremy Macklin, Devonte Parker, Rashad Matthews. You might. You might toss in Doug Baldwin.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was a disappointment for sure. 6 for 46.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, this is a long list of. Of names.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So let's pick out some guys to talk about first. If you didn't watch the Miami Arizona game, it was full monsoon. You can't really rain much more than it was raining there.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you're worried about if you're going to rain, you can't rain more than that.

[Jason Moore]

So if you're worried about Larry, I think that that was really just the sloppy conditions. I mean there's rain and then there's. What happened there that was like a hurricane is right next door.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a hurricane throwing the ball to trial prior and it. I have no confidence in Pryor moving forward after what I saw.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think, I don't think you can. The guy that I have now no confidence in, I mean zero. It's done. I cannot possibly recommend that you start him. Is Brandon Marshall good?

[Mike Wright]

That's the one I want to talk about.

[Jason Moore]

Brandon Marshall. You know, look, this was a great matchup against San Francisco. What Bryce Petty could not get the ball to him. 3 for 33 in the best matchup imaginable. And now he goes to places not San Francisco. So you've got Miami, New England and Buffalo the rest of the way. Brandon Marshall is droppable. You don't need him. Please tempt your opponent.

[Mike Wright]

You're dropping him.

[Jason Moore]

I'm dropping. Unless it's a keeper league. And even then I, I mean, Brandon Marshall could retire. For all we know, they don't have a quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Meanwhile, Robbie Anderson 11 targets 6 for 99. I mean it's. That's just the worst situation for fantasy players. Is Brandon Marshall the seasoned vet? You know that he's elite when he's on. He's an elite wide receiver. But opportunity is the king of fantasy football and Robbie Anderson is getting the opportunity. Would you play Anderson over Marshall?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, Anderson is not a good player and Marshall is great. But Marshall can't throw himself the ball.

[Mike Wright]

Or can he?

[Andy Holloway]

No, you're that. I mean, that's well said. Oh, Calvin Benjamin, I mean he's useless.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Alan Robinson is useless. I think Larry Fitzgerald is an easy bounce back. Mike Evans is an easy bounce back. Although he has a tough matchup in Dallas next week. But he's Mike Evans, so I'm not worried about him.

[Jason Moore]

I think Jameson Crowder is a good bounce back candidate. I definitely think Rashard Matthews is a great bounce back candidate. We forget he was playing Denver.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't forget that. I don't forget that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I will say that the Chiefs are not, you know, exactly A great matchup this next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm holding off on Matthews, but yeah, I agree about Crowder. I agree about Mike Evans. Larry Fitzgerald. Larry Fitzgerald should be able to turn it around in a big way at home against New Orleans.

[Jason Moore]

And I would say Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree. Kansas City, you know, in Kansas City, they were primed for that game and neither one of those wide receivers got it done. But the next two weeks of your playoffs, you got San Diego and Indianapolis. Those are not defenses that frighten me. And I think one or both of those guys should have a big game the rest of the way.

[Andy Holloway]

Just a reminder, tomorrow's the waiver wire show, so hop on. Get some insight there. I need Mike to, to speak to this next name. We're moving to tight ends.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Good.

[Andy Holloway]

And this has never happened before. I don't know if you want to make an entry.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, to the diary.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, you're all right.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, Jordan Reed was 1 for 10.

[Mike Wright]

And so here's the deal with Jordan Reed. All information coming from Washington, coming from Beat Order beat writers, people who are plugged into the team, they said, yes, he is in very noticeable amounts of pain during practice. But in practice, you don't, you don't get the special sauce. You don't get the special game day sauce that makes function into the muscle, that makes owie's go away.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

And they said he's going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that available for fantasy owners, by the way, that sauce?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, there's a sauce that makes owies go away.

[Jason Moore]

Not recommended.

[Andy Holloway]

Not recommended.

[Jason Moore]

They said.

[Mike Wright]

They said not only is he going to play, he is going to be massively involved. The Washington look, they're in the playoff hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

They're fighting for their wild card lives. He is active. And according to Pro Football Focus, that.

[Andy Holloway]

Rule has never been broken.

[Mike Wright]

He is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

The Rule 86 of if Jordan replays, you play him. According to Pro Football Focus, he was in for just 10 snaps. So this wasn't. This is what makes this so baffling, is it was. He wasn't even a decoy. They didn't have him out there. Just. Let's pull some. The linebacker over here with Jordan Reed.

[Jason Moore]

He didn't really play because he didn't play.

[Mike Wright]

So they kept, they activated him and then just didn't use. They wasted his active roster spot. It was perplexing.

[Jason Moore]

So what do you do with them next week, Carolina?

[Mike Wright]

I'll play him.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I'm probably going to play him.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to monitor the beat reporters because they're a bunch of liars, but they weren't liars of how he was doing. Doug Peterson, Gazette and so I'm going to focus more on how Jordan Reed is doing and if Jordan Reed seems this week in practice that he is still majorly injured as was kind of described and I'm going to steer clear.

[Andy Holloway]

Jimmy Graham just missed a 58 yard touchdown. His week reminded me a lot of Amari Cooper's where there was one play that could have redefined the entirety of the week. It didn't go his way. Russell Wilson, same with Doug Baldwin.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, those guys missed. Russell Wilson overthrew both guys on a long touchdown by about 2 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

But maybe you should introduce some like hypothetical points to your league, like near misses.

[Mike Wright]

So you would have Jimmy Graham and Doug Baldwin as easy bounce back guys for next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. Absolutely. Ladarius Green, this was a case of 38 carries to Le'Veon Bell. He did have an end zone target. He was 2 for 25. He has Cincinnati next week had an end zone target. Honestly they just didn't need to throw the ball and Ben Roethlisberg was terrible.

[Mike Wright]

He was not throwing it.

[Jason Moore]

Well this, this is what I was describing last week when you are.

[Andy Holloway]

He was on the road by the way and I told you how much I didn't like Big Ben in that game.

[Jason Moore]

When, when, when you are in the snowy conditions and the very cold in the 20s, the, the total points at fantasy Production, I said this last week, it does not go away. The points are there, the fantasy points are there. But it shifts from the passing game.

[Andy Holloway]

To the run to Le'Veon Bell.

[Jason Moore]

I know that's. Well I told Mike last week I was like I have to move Le'Veon Bell up to number one. David Johnson was. But I go Le'Veon Bell's going to go full ham in that weather. And and so that's what happened with Ladarius Green. That's what happened with Antonio Brown. With Big Ben it just all went to the running game.

[Mike Wright]

But for Ladarius Green, if you're panicking, you're saying I'm getting rid of him. He was in for just 37% of the snaps. So I mean that's his number went way down on those snaps though. It just running on the, on the field nearly 20% market share of the targets. That's what in shout out to our man late round QB who tweeted about that. But so his if he's on the field, he's probably getting a target.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. I just think the game I'm not scared to use did not bend. So let's, let's move on and talk about Monday night. We can. We can officially wipe the slate clean.

[Jason Moore]

Wipe.

[Andy Holloway]

Wipe. I want to know what you guys. We are six year old. Yes, we are. Look, there's no choice. When you wake up and you need to find a toilet flushing file, it's, you know, you're having a bad week. All right, the Ravens and the Patriots tonight. Guys, I want to know your take on this game. Who do you think wins this game? First of all, Patriots are six and a half point favorites.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not going against Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

Me neither.

[Mike Wright]

I want to pick the Ravens. I don't think I have the courage to do it. But. But I will take the Ravens to cover.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I can see that. Close game, low scoring. Sounds like a little bit of boom, boom opportunity.

[Andy Holloway]

If you, if you have one of. If you have one of the big fantasy names in this game. So let's call them Brady. Let's call it Blunt Adelman. Senor Mitchell, Senor Wallace, who is the most likely to disappoint you tonight?

[Mike Wright]

For me, it's Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

For me, it's same position, other side of the ball. Malcolm Mitchell.

[Andy Holloway]

For me, it's like I Blunt with the Ravens only giving up four rushing touchdowns on the year. I like how I framed it. Not in who's going to deliver you a championship? I just said who's going to disappoint you?

[Mike Wright]

Negative today.

[Andy Holloway]

No, we're trying not to be. I just flushed it away. Let's go positive. So you guys, you think that Smith senior is the one that may struggle? Is there somebody in that passing game you have confidence in?

[Mike Wright]

No. And it's more of just a. The expectations for Smith as the one for that team. I'm just saying when I factor all that stuff in. That's why I think he could be the biggest disappointment.

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you start running back from? Baltimore.

[Mike Wright]

West.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. I think west has, has done enough to hold on to that starting job.

[Mike Wright]

He's the goal line guy. When in the timeshare. Give me the goal line guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Is there any chance Dion Lewis breaks out tonight without Gronkowski?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, there is.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, with the inability to maybe run on the Ravens like you would normally with Blunt.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I was going to say with, with how good the Ravens defense has. Has looked as of late. You actually need to make sure you're getting it to your most talented players. Talent is the only way to beat that defense. And so Dion Lewis has it over James White, in my opinion. I don't think that's hidden from Bill Belichick's eyes. So this is a game I could hopefully see Dion Lewis breaking out for.

[Andy Holloway]

You know how sometimes there are those fans that when their team's doing well, they go and they get the super bowl tattoo and they do it, like to call it, they do it early.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I wanted to let everybody out there know that I just. We just added the hashtag foot clan title 2016 t shirt to shopballers.com it.

[Mike Wright]

Wasn'T the Footclan tattoo.

[Andy Holloway]

No, the tattoo is not on there. You can't buy that online. You can get one, though. Please, please go do that. But the T shirts up. We do a T shirt every year for a hashtag Foot Clan title. It's up there if you want to, you know, the equivalent. If you want to call your shot, you want to point to the left.

[Jason Moore]

Field bleachers, show up to your, you know, week 16 viewing party, and you're in your championship.

[Andy Holloway]

If you want to do that, then.

[Mike Wright]

If you do it like a boss.

[Andy Holloway]

And if you don't win, you can just wear it inside out.

[Jason Moore]

You just know. You wear. You wear it with the zip up hoodie.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then you just wait until you clinch and you take that hoodie off, you unzip, go Superman around. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Good luck in tonight's game, everybody. Thanks for listening. We'll be back with the waiver wire show tomorrow. Much, much waiver wire show. Very important. And good luck this week. We'll be back with you all week long. Very excited to get you that Foot Clan title.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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