Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 6 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Updates

Summary

Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 6 Summary

Podcast Title: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 6 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Updates
Release Date: October 17, 2016

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Introduction

The episode kicks off with light-hearted banter among the hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright, setting a friendly and engaging tone for the discussion. They mention the forthcoming Monday Night Football game between the Arizona Cardinals and the New York Jets, highlighting their excitement about attending the game for firsthand analysis.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [01:04]: "The Fantasy Footballers back again, Andy, Mike and Jason. Monday, October 17th."

Quick Question of the Day

The hosts address a listener-submitted question from Craig on Twitter: "If someone in the league is not set their lineup, our commissioner feels it's his job to get in touch with them through a text message. Fair or foul?"

Perspectives:

• David Johnson [03:22]: Emphasizes the commissioner's role in keeping the league running smoothly but advises against setting lineups for others.

• Andy Holloway [04:06]: Suggests routine league-wide reminders instead of individual interventions to maintain fairness.

• Jason Moore [05:09]: Accepts the commissioner's approach if it's consistent but criticizes leagues that frequently need reminders.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [04:50]: "If this is the status quo for the league, that the commissioner always does this... then it's what it is."

Injury Updates

Ben Roethlisberger's Injury

• Andy Holloway [05:18]: Reports that Ben Roethlisberger has a torn left meniscus requiring surgery but remains optimistic about his return post-Week 8 bye.

• Jason Moore [07:55]: Highlights Landry Jones’ upcoming start and suggests targeting the Patriots' defense in Week 7.

Other Player Injuries

• Devonte Adams [06:50]
• Philip Dorsett [07:27]
• Dwayne Allen [08:28]
• Doug Martin [08:38]: Concerns about his availability post-bye week.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [05:47]: "If I were fantasy and a fantasy owner, I would grab the Patriots defense in week number seven."

This Week’s Fantasy Studs

Drew Brees

• Andy Holloway [10:26]: Praises Drew Brees for an impressive performance, noting his arm strength and decision-making.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [10:26]: "Everything about Drew Brees was impressive."

Matthew Stafford

• Andy Holloway [11:00]: Acknowledges Stafford's solid performance against the Rams but questions his consistency.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [11:22]: "He's been Matt Stafford."

Marcus Mariota

• Andy Holloway [12:16]: Highlights Mariota's impressive rushing performance, making him a top streaming option.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [12:27]: "Marcus Mariota, my stream of the week."

Case Keenum

• Jason Moore [13:43]: Celebrates Keenum’s monster game, noting his significant yardage and touchdowns.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [13:43]: "Case Keenum, you cannot ignore."

Rising Stars of the Week

Cameron Meredith

• Andy Holloway [40:12]: Commends Meredith’s consistent performance, emphasizing his potential despite being undrafted.

Notable Quote:
David Johnson [41:10]: "Absolutely, yes. Not only do I buy into the narrative... but he passes my eyeball test here."

Cole Beasley

• Jason Moore [43:08]: Advocates for Beasley as a reliable weekly start, highlighting his role in Dak Prescott’s offense.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [43:08]: "Cole Beasley is a weekly start… his floor is extremely safe."

Kenny Britt

• David Johnson [43:50]: Praises Britt’s consistent yardage and touchdown potential, recommending him as a valuable asset.

Notable Quote:
David Johnson [43:50]: "He shouldn't be on waivers. He should be owned because he can get it done in fantasy."

Pooped in Big Boy Pants

This segment humorously addresses underperforming players, termed as "super poopers."

Notable Mentions:

• Russell Wilson [45:55]: Criticized for a lack of touchdowns despite yardage.
• Derek Carr [47:45]: Discussed concerning turnovers and inconsistency.
• Aaron Rodgers [48:55]: Noted for a high yardage game but underwhelming fantasy performance.
• Mark Ingram [51:40]: Highlighted for minimal impact despite effort.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [45:45]: "Russell Wilson a super pooper this week because... didn't throw for any touchdowns."

Quarterback Analysis

Dak Prescott

• Andy Holloway [18:25]: Commends Prescott’s consistency and decision-making, contrasting him with Tony Romo.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [18:25]: "Dak Prescott really just gives you confidence."

Jonathan Stewart & Terrence West

• Discussion: Debates the value of Stewart versus West, ultimately siding with Stewart due to injury concerns and usage patterns.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [33:09]: "Would you rather have Terrence West or Jonathan Stewart for the rest of the season?"

Derek Carr & Matthew Stafford

• Andy Holloway [47:05]: Questions whether Carr should be a must-start over Stafford based on recent performances.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [48:07]: "Between him and Stafford, I would have to look at the schedule."

Wide Receiver Highlights

Brandon Cooks

• Andy Holloway [23:53]: Praises Cooks’ performance but cautions against overreliance due to inconsistency.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [24:09]: "Brandon Cooks seven for 173 and one."

Trevial Young & Michael Thomas

• Discussion: Covers consistency issues and potential for breakout performances.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [25:04]: "He'll win your week."

Julio Jones & Kendall Wright

• Andy Holloway [28:17]: Talks about Wright’s potential as a one-week outlier and Julio Jones’ reliability.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [28:43]: "Kendall Wright a one week outlier in my mind."

Cole Beasley & Kenny Britt

• Emphasis on Beasley’s reliability and Britt’s emerging consistency, making both valuable additions to fantasy rosters.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [43:08]: "Cole Beasley is a weekly start… his floor is extremely safe."

Running Back Analysis

Shady McCoy & Jay Ajayi

• Andy Holloway [29:56]: Discusses McCoy’s injury and Ajayi’s performance against Pittsburgh.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [30:26]: "Shady McCoy's dead."

Terence West vs. Jonathan Stewart

• **Debate on which back to start based on recent performances and usage.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [33:02]: "Terrence west definitely more involved in the passing game."

Spencer Ware & Lamar Miller

• **Celebrates Ware’s breakout performance and Miller finally delivering on his potential.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [37:03]: "Spencer Ware had a monster game."

Tight End Segment

Delaney Walker & Zach Ertz

• Andy Holloway [60:43]: Notes Walker’s satisfactory performance but expresses concern over Ertz's future contributions.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [60:37]: "Zach Ertz very worried."

Travis Kelsey

• **Acknowledges Kelsey’s reliability but mentions occasional low-scoring weeks.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [60:46]: "Travis Kelsey not worried."

Other Player Highlights

Antonio Brown

• Andy Holloway [56:27]: Advises caution in trading Brown, emphasizing the need for significant returns.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [56:44]: "Here's who trades the team that trades Antonio Brown is the team that needs to win in the next two weeks."

Demaryius Thomas & Emmanuel Sanders

• **Discussion on their underperformance despite high expectations.

Notable Quote:
David Johnson [58:38]: "Guys crapped my rankings."

Final Thoughts and Game Previews

The hosts conclude by previewing the Monday Night Football matchup, discussing key players to watch and potential fantasy impacts. They emphasize staying engaged with the community through their website and social media channels.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [61:54]: "Check out jointhefoot.com for a fantasy football community."

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Conclusion

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast provides an in-depth analysis of Week 6 performances, injuries, and fantasy implications. The hosts offer valuable insights into player performances, strategic starts and sits, and emerging trends in the fantasy football landscape. Notable moments include the celebration of rising stars like Cameron Meredith and Cole Beasley, as well as critical evaluations of underperformers and the impact of significant injuries on fantasy lineups.

Listeners are encouraged to stay proactive with their lineup decisions, monitor injury updates, and consider the hosts’ recommendations to optimize their fantasy football strategies moving forward.

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Note:
The hosts frequently incorporate humor and personal anecdotes, making the analysis both informative and entertaining. Notable quotes and specific timestamps provide listeners with precise references to the discussion points covered during the episode.

Transcript

[David Johnson]

Hey, this is David Johnson, running back of the Arizona Cardinals, and you're listening.

[Andy Holloway]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[David Johnson]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

What's going on, world?

[Andy Holloway]

Is that your way of not just saying America this time? That's right. It's very kind of you.

[Jason Moore]

I self corrected. Shout out to Europe.

[David Johnson]

Looking good, Kaneda.

[Andy Holloway]

Just Europe though, no?

[David Johnson]

Yeah, just Europe this year.

[Jason Moore]

The whole thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Still think you're against Australians? Europe. You're opposed to Australians. I don't know what it is.

[Jason Moore]

My downtown friends, they're. They're my.

[Andy Holloway]

My Southern BFFs down under, not downtown.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they're. They're the furthest you can go for downtown.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the podcast.

[Jason Moore]

Just keep driving down. You'll get there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, just keep driving south. Yeah, try that out. Try that out. We'll give you a couple weeks off. Welcome to the show the Fantasy Footballers back again, Andy, Mike and Jason. Monday, October 17th. We are fresh off of most of the week six games. We have Monday Night Football tonight between the Cardinals and the New York Jets.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike and I will be there absolutely in person. You know, for the analysis of the game, fantasy analysis purposes. I might, you know, analyze some hot dogs as well.

[Jason Moore]

I was gonna analyze a double cheeseburger.

[Andy Holloway]

Right, right. And a lot of analysis. Jason's got a look on his face. He wishes he could be there tonight. Not because of the game. He didn't have that look until the double cheeseburger.

[David Johnson]

Double cheeseburger.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you can't get those just anywhere. Oh, man. This is all just to make myself laugh and feel better. Fantasy football can be a cruel universe. When Cam Meredith and Terrell Pryor dominate on your bench and Doug Baldwin and A.J. green give you a stinky cheese on your starting roster. But that's the game we play. That is the game we play.

[David Johnson]

Life we live.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the life we live on today's shows.

[David Johnson]

Life, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Hard knocks. Yes. We've got this week's fantasy stud muffins. We've got pooped in your big boy pants. We got the Monday night preview and it's going to be a very good one. Happy to say, my almost upset of the week took care of business again. We got an overtime game out of it this time.

[David Johnson]

Yeah. Very nice. You're on a roll with those.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think I am undefeated. Wait, Undefeated and almost upset. And I am arbitrarily deciding what makes that a Victory.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, see, because you say if they win by a point, you win.

[Andy Holloway]

If they win by a point, losing overtime.

[David Johnson]

Two thirds of us agree with that, Mike. You. You keep your kids on the lawn, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. That's right.

[Jason Moore]

This is not an on the lawn situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Quick question of the day, as we always get the show started with a quick question. This one comes in off of Twitter at. Well, this is from Craig. Craig. On Twitter, he says, craig, if someone in the league is not set their lineup, our commissioner feels it's his job to get in touch with them through a text message. Fair or foul? What say you, gentlemen?

[David Johnson]

Yeah, I can understand both sides of the argument here in the sense that it's the owner's responsibility to know whether or not they're making their moves, but at the same time, it's the commissioner's responsibility to keep the league running well and that their owners are engaged and keep the league fair for everybody. What I would say is if I think that it is the commissioner's responsibility to let someone know, hey, you forgot to set this. He wouldn't. You shouldn't set it for him. You shouldn't make the move or suggest who to play or anything like that. But you should alert a player, say, hey, you got a guy that's not in your lineup ready to go? You might want to take a look at that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't quite take that approach. I think the right thing to do as a commissioner is to have a weekly reminder post to the league as a whole, even across the board, letting people know to get, you know, if you're in a league where this could happen, right. Like, ideally, you're not in a league where this is possible, but if you are, I think it. I think it crosses over a line when you're telling somebody, okay, you've got guys, as Jason just said, you've got guys on your bench that are ready. You might want to get in there.

[David Johnson]

Well, usually your motive or your application method is passive aggressive. Pictures on Facebook of players. Gronk, Smash.

[Jason Moore]

I'll say this.

[David Johnson]

What say, Mike?

[Jason Moore]

If this is the status quo for the league, that the commissioner always does this, and the commissioner does not pick and choose when they are going to or who they will alert that the lineup needs to be set, then it's. It is what it is. I'm okay with it. It sounds like a league that needs to get their act together, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Fair enough. Fair enough.

[David Johnson]

Weekly rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

The Pittsburgh Post Gazette reports Ben Roethlisberger has been diagnosed with a torn Left meniscus requires surgery. I believe the reports this morning said it was a cleanup procedure. And the optimistic viewpoint on Big Ben, which is the one I side with, know Jason does as well, is that he will be available after the week eight buy. So we have Landry Jones starting in week seven against the Patriots. If I were fantasy and a fantasy owner, I would grab the Patriots defense in week number seven.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, that's going to be. That's going to be nice. Cooking with Landry Jones after that week, that single week. Then that is their bye week. They come back against Baltimore in a matchup that is not that great. It is on the road, and we have seen Big Ben struggle on the road forever.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say before the injury, he was being rode Big Ben.

[David Johnson]

So, you know, you might not necessarily have him back in full. Full until week 10. But I do believe. I mean, look, we've seen Big Ben play through all sorts of injuries.

[Andy Holloway]

He played through this, right?

[David Johnson]

Yeah. That play, he just.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, he was on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he was. That's the definition of playing well. Right. Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

But I would say fantasy owners would have preferred that he did not.

[Andy Holloway]

It was, you know, Big Ben on the road did what Big Ben does in the road. Drew Brees at home did what Drew Brees does at home, and we told you that. So hopefully you started or set players based on that recommendation. Devonte Adams exited with a possible head injury. I saw that play look like a possible concussion. So stay tuned there.

[Jason Moore]

You know who got two catches after that?

[David Johnson]

Oh, give me a break.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you mean?

[David Johnson]

Jeff Janis. His next year. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[David Johnson]

If you want to actually bring someone up who looks good that game, I would say if James Starks is out again, you might want to keep your eyeballs on Ty Montgomery. Yes, completely agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't he have 10 catches?

[David Johnson]

Yes. And many of them were actually. He was lined up in the backfield. He wasn't used as a running back, but he was lined up as a running back and then would run routes out of there.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he did line up as a running back once and fumble. I mean, they handed him the ball and then he fumbled it. He's.

[Jason Moore]

He's a pretty big dude. 6, 2, 2, 16. So I agree that he.

[David Johnson]

I was.

[Jason Moore]

That was more of a joke.

[Andy Holloway]

Surprising to see a. You know, when he catches the ball and he can actually do something with it after the catch. Seems like they're having so much trouble on that offense. I guess that's another question for another time. But I mean, maybe we'll get into it in the pooped segment of the show. Jay Glazer reporting. Starks underwent knee surgery and will be sidelined a few weeks. Jason was just talking about time Montgomery be healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Eddie Lacy.

[Andy Holloway]

Philip Dorsett exited with a hamstring injury. Missed most of second half and overtime. So if you still have him, I think he's a clean cut at this point. Dwayne Allen left with an ankle injury. I think he might miss more time and if he does, Doyle rules. Doyle rules. So hey, Jack, Doyle scored again this week and so you have to pay attention to him. If you need a streaming tight end option, we have bi apocalypses starting up here soon. So a lot of bye weeks in in the schedule. Does Bryant says he'll be back after the buy?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Makes sense. It's there was rumors of him possibly playing this weekend. Did not happen. So getting a week off and then getting back into it makes total sense.

[David Johnson]

It makes. Yeah. I mean I just assumed he would play because that would be the wrong decision and usually does. Bryant and the Cowboys have really forced the issue too much in the past. Very happy he sat, but I wonder.

[Jason Moore]

Who his quarterback's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

So here, here's a very concerning story to me. Doug Martin didn't practice today and they are coming off the bye week. So this is your Monday practice off the by. If you're expecting a guy back to be your lead running back off of the by, why are you missing practice on Monday?

[David Johnson]

No, for sure. I mean this is one of those things where the hope and the guess was he's coming back from the buy. But we have to remember he was, he was injured and it wasn't like that was a week where the suspension was up or he was coming off of puppet. He's able. No, you know, that was just a hope. If he's not practicing, he's not going to play. So tomorrow I'm sure we'll have Jaquiz Rogers Wednesday.

[Jason Moore]

I think Wednesday will be the if he misses that Wednesday practice. I was very aggressive going after Doug Martin. If he misses Wednesday, then I will be starting. I will start to be more concerned.

[Andy Holloway]

What if he's limited on Wednesday?

[Jason Moore]

Then it's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you're automatically starting a guy. He's missed that amount of time.

[Jason Moore]

You're just locking loading against San Francisco. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, fair enough.

[David Johnson]

And otherwise, Jaquez Rogers is someone you should absolutely pick up. He's available on most waivers. Still pick him up.

[Jason Moore]

I'll say. The Bucks also did sign the Sensation, the old Atlanta Falcons sensation, Anton Smith. So maybe Michael Keaton, maybe they're. Maybe they're getting ready. But Wednesday will be a big day for Doug Martin.

[David Johnson]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we said it before. Drew Brees lit it up at home. And you know what was impressive about Drew Brees in this game? Everything. Everything about Drew Brees was impressive. His arm strength looked good to me. You know, moving in the pocket and being able to put the ball on a line down the sideline over and over again really, really impressed me. He was. He went for 465 and four with one pick, which was a pass up the seam that just overshot Brandon Cooks, who was, I believe, Jason start of the week, right?

[David Johnson]

Yes, he was.

[Andy Holloway]

And did he do all right? He was.

[David Johnson]

He was okay for himself.

[Andy Holloway]

Matthew Stafford, stud muffin this week. 23 for 31, 270 and four against the Rams. I don't know if we saw this kind of a week coming from Stafford, but Golden Tate got back on the. Yeah, on the scoreboard.

[Jason Moore]

That was a big deal.

[Andy Holloway]

Putting points on the clock, as Jason would say. Yep. Stafford's been really kind of up and down this year.

[Jason Moore]

He's been Matt Stafford.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, fair enough. I mean, but what do you think about Stafford moving forward? I mean, is he in that top 10?

[David Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. I would really like to have Stafford on my team. Their defense, you know, it's. It's very similar to what you see with New Orleans when you have a defense that gives up a lot of points every single game and you've got a quarterback that has the ability to air it out. It's just good for fantasy in the sense that, you know, you're not going to be in this game script where you choose to run the ball all game. And even if they're in that game script, they can't. So for those reasons, I think Stafford will have more good games than bad ones. And really, when you say he's been back and forth, you know, I. Look, he had that terrible week against Chicago where He threw for 213 yards, two interceptions. No, no. No touchdowns. But every other week he's been pretty. Dar Garn. Fantastic.

[Andy Holloway]

Dar Garnish. Look, I've been saying it all week. I said it on Tuesday, I repeated it. I really didn't stop talking about it. Marcus Mariota, my stream of the week.

[David Johnson]

Stream of the week, man.

[Andy Holloway]

70 for 24, 284 and three and ran one in on the ground. I just told Jason the last two weeks, he's been seven. Seven carries on the ground for over 60 yards, which changes the equation for my start of the week. My streamer, my number one guy.

[David Johnson]

Yeah. And if you. If he's out there, pick up Andy Dalton, because Andy Dalton will play the Cleveland Browns next.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[David Johnson]

So that's.

[Jason Moore]

Look, that's not a bad plan of action.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Just.

[Jason Moore]

Just line them up.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Cleveland got back in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

They got real close. They got within two points, which is.

[David Johnson]

That's always good.

[Andy Holloway]

It's called the Cleveland win. That's what that's called. You know, it's the Browns. They're struggling. But I don't. Cleveland has the Cavs. You've got the.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you're saying don't feel bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm just saying the Indians are playing great. They're in the alcs. I mean, I kind of was expecting maybe. Maybe the.

[David Johnson]

There's pieces in Cleveland that said that say that the future can be okay. And that's bright. That's pretty bright.

[Andy Holloway]

That's pretty bright. That's a Cleveland win. All right, we have another. You know, Tom Brady had a monster week. If you had the Brady Gronk stack.

[Jason Moore]

You bypassed somebody who we need to talk about.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Case Keenum, you cannot ignore what case.

[Andy Holloway]

Keenum has 27 for 32, 321, and three.

[Jason Moore]

And he ran one in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a monster week.

[Jason Moore]

That's a big game.

[David Johnson]

And that's actually, I think, what, two of the last three weeks where he's been a top performer. And that's so weird. I mean, put it this way. One of our writers pointed out on our Slack channel that I was the second highest rated analyst on him this week at 18. And I didn't feel good about it. I was like.

[Andy Holloway]

You felt embarrassed?

[David Johnson]

Yeah, I was like, yeah, I did have him up at 18. And even though he was like.

[Jason Moore]

But maybe it. Maybe it's not so much Case Keenum, but we talked about playing against the Browns. Start your quarterback against the Lions.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Seriously. I was just thinking about this, too. You know, Brock Osweiler. I know he brought the team back last night, and we didn't talk about that game, but is Brian Hoyer better than Brock Osweiler?

[David Johnson]

100%.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. They might have wanted to keep Hoyer.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I totally get what the Texans did. When you're trying to win a Super bowl and you watch your quarterback just. Just smeared in feces in the playoffs, you got to move on. I mean.

[David Johnson]

Yeah. And you take that stab at a guy that you think could be great who's out there? Because it doesn't happen from time to time.

[Jason Moore]

But so far, you shouldn't have given $72 million.

[David Johnson]

Brock Osweiler so far has looked pretty atrocious. He came back last night and in the fourth quarter in overtime, he did what he needed to do to get it done. And really that was on the the back of one long pass play.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you hear, though, who they signed?

[David Johnson]

No. Tell me.

[Andy Holloway]

Texans tight end. You didn't hear this?

[David Johnson]

No, I didn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Hakeem Olajuwon, then they can finally.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, I posted on Twitter, I said if all the Texans wide receivers were 7ft tall, this offense would be very good.

[Andy Holloway]

Olajuwon starting next week. They got Mutumbo coming in for a workout.

[David Johnson]

Why doesn't someone just tell Brock Ewing.

[Andy Holloway]

Will be here next week.

[David Johnson]

Why doesn't Brock is available.

[Andy Holloway]

Tim Duncan is available.

[David Johnson]

Just throw at everyone's feet, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Because they will end up right in the numbers.

[David Johnson]

Just throw at their feet every time and you're fine.

[Jason Moore]

It's like my golf swing. I have to aim completely off the side of the course. I'm aiming for that tree and then, oh, right down the middle.

[David Johnson]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

It doesn't feel good, but you end up in the right place.

[Jason Moore]

I do what has to be done.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. All right, I'm going to read off these guys. You choose who you want to talk about. Tom Brady, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, also known as Odell Beckham Jr. Had a good week. Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck.

[Jason Moore]

I say Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Matt Ryan balling out right now, the league in yards.

[Jason Moore]

We keep saying every week we give Matt Ryan a condition like, okay, you.

[Andy Holloway]

Got to beat Denver in Denver.

[Jason Moore]

If he could be. If he could be good against Denver on the road, maybe I'll think about starting him every week. Okay. If he could be good on. In Seattle, on the road, maybe I'll think about. I hope nobody goes back, start Matt Ryan. Every week we have, we're at the point you got to start him every week.

[Andy Holloway]

I hope nobody goes back and listens to that. Like, one week of me just ripping Matt Ryan a new one at the beginning, just saying how bad he is and how much I look. He's surprising everybody, you know, and their defense. Their defense is so much better than it was a year ago.

[David Johnson]

Will. Will there be a collapse like last year?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, no, because their defense is good enough. You don't. You're not leaning on now. They obviously lost this past week, but you're in Seattle. You played it so close and honestly.

[David Johnson]

You should have won.

[Andy Holloway]

You should have won the game or could have. Should have. But look, the defense is good enough. Matt Ryan cannot be put in the position where we saw Matt Ryan struggle a ton was this position where he is stuck. What do we used to say about him? He's a bad garbage time quarterback. Matt Ryan's a bad garbage time quarterback. He throws interceptions. Don't put him in the position where he has to throw for 600 yards. You know, let him do that over the course of a game with the right offensive game plan. You got two great running backs in the mix here and Julio Jones and that's all you seem to need in.

[Jason Moore]

Sanu is at least capable. That's the problem last year was they had Julio at wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

That's it. They had Julio and Kevin Coleman missed most of the year and the defense was not as good as they are right now.

[Jason Moore]

Much different offense.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, the condition I gave him this last week was that if Tevin Coleman can catch 132 yards again, then he was good. Tevin Coleman 7 yards. And so Matt Ryan is still pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll talk about Tevin Coleman very soon.

[Jason Moore]

That's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Mr. Must start. Andrew Luck, Cody Kessler. Yeah, yeah, Kessler and Keno and Hoyer. Oh my.

[Jason Moore]

It was a weird week, man.

[David Johnson]

And I believe both of our streams, Dak Prescott, Tyler, Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott were top 12 as well.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I this was the week where I officially am in the Dak Prescott cannot leave the the starting lineup camp. Yeah, I do not believe anymore that you can disrupt. I mean this team went into Green Bay dominated. Really. I mean they own that game. Ezekiel Elliott's amazing. I mean he's just so good. And Dak Prescott really just gives you confidence in. You know, I think Romo offers you, you know, several things different than Prescott. You know, I think you have more big play potential with Tony Romo. You have the ability for him to put up these monster games. But Roma also had those mistakes, those mistakes that just killed you and broke your back as a team. And I don't know, Prescott has been so impressive. Three touchdowns in this game. Smart decision making. Finally, the interception streak ended.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this, the nice thing about not being a Dallas fan is no matter what, if the Cowboys do not win the super bowl, they made the wrong choice. And that's the whole entire media firestorm is going to be why didn't you play quarterback?

[Andy Holloway]

X well and I was even thinking that type of thought. When we talked about Osweiler and Hoyer. Almost every team doesn't win the super bowl and whatever decision they made is the wrong one. Because of that, you know, you keep, you said, you know, Hoyer stunk in the class. You make a change because you let your fan base know you care about winning and you want to make a change. So let's get into the wide receivers now, guys. Odell Beckham Jr. Was limping his way to two and a half points. First he was negative and then off the field with an injury.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, Odell Beckham. I get the report that Odell Beckham is out and I'm very unhappy.

[Andy Holloway]

And then, and then ba boom. And you know, he almost cost his team the game with a penalty.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you know, it's all about Odell Beckham Jr. Who after every score now goes and lays down with the, the kicking it.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Over the penalty was he took his helmet off, right?

[David Johnson]

Yes. The penalty was that he took his helmet. I'm just saying that was just an example of his personality. And the reality is this, look, Odell Beckham, he is great. He almost cost their team the game. Instead he is the single handed, the only reason, the reason they won that game. And he is great. So you want to know what you need to do? You need to go get your Odell Beckham signed jersey over at Pristine Auction.

[Jason Moore]

There is one up today.

[David Johnson]

Oh, let's get it for here, please. Anyways, we want to thank our sponsor. Look, Pristine Auction. Those guys are amazing. Their website is the place where you need to like make that your homepage. Every day you check out these daily auctions. There is so much incredible stuff. You know, they've got signed jerseys, they got signed helmets, they got signed amazingly large, big canvas pictures of special moments with things written on them. It's just, look, if you're looking for a special gift, if you're looking to deck out your living room or where you watch games or any number of things like that, Pristine Auction has like the authority that they have on every signature, making sure that it is absolutely legit. The guys over there, we've met, we've had lunch with, they are great. If you haven't yet checked out Pristine Auction, you have to go to it. It's P R I S T I n e auction.com. check them out, see what's over there. And if you want to get a gift for someone that's not a sports fan. Yeah, I love that you could get stuff. You can get coins and collectibles and comic books. I mean, just go check out what they have. They're amazing. You will not regret it. And you won't believe how cheap you can get some of this cool stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

We also want to thank today's sponsor, seatgeek. You've heard us talk about them before as well. And Mike and I are heading to the Monday Night Football game Tonight, compliments of SeatGeek. Compliments of SeatGeek. Yeah, we hopped in the app. It took about three minutes. And we couldn't believe. We. Even though we talk about this, we couldn't believe how fast that was. It was like Mike's like, all right, we got tickets. I'm like, all right, we're going. So there you go. That's why I'm wearing my Patrick Peterson Jersey today. Look, SeatGeek is the smartest, easiest way to find tickets for the football games. You want to see up close in person this season. And there is nothing like being at the stadium. We always try to get out. You know, as fantasy analysts, we have to watch the Sunday games, but any Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night game, we try to get out there. And seatgeek is the easiest place to get guaranteed seats you want for a great value. So our listeners get $20 off their first SeatGeek purchase. To get your rebate, go to your app store, Download the free SeatGeek app, go to the settings tab, and click the add a promo code and enter the promo code. Footballers, SeatGeek will then send you $20 after you've made your first SeatGeek purchase. So download the free SeatGeek app and enter the promo code. Footballers today. And now we can finally talk about Kenny Britt. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Kenny Britt.

[Andy Holloway]

Years ago, I drafted Kenny Brett in the seventh round when he was a titan, and I threw him out there in week one. He scored three touchdowns. And then the next week, he tore his acl. And so we've seen what Kenny Ritt was going to be. Could be. Seems like, you know, half physical injury, half mental injury has held him back, but, man, he is a. He's a big boy. And he went for 7, 136 and 2 this week.

[David Johnson]

And we'll talk about him a little bit later. So let's. Let's talk about Brandon Cooks.

[Andy Holloway]

You took the air right out of that.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, sunk it. So what you're saying is.

[David Johnson]

I'm saying that.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, wait for your Brit moments.

[David Johnson]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Brandon cooks seven for 173 and one. This is what makes Brandon Cooks great to own the last few Weeks is what makes it difficult to own.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. I will say I did not believe in him even.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you play him at home all the time?

[David Johnson]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that the equation?

[David Johnson]

Every single home game you play him.

[Andy Holloway]

Put him on the track, you know.

[David Johnson]

Look, actually, let's, let's hold off there because I will say this. I believe they have a home game coming up against Denver. And in that game, in that game, to me, I, if I have other good options, you know, if I'm deciding between a Marvin Jones and a Brandon Cooks, I'm going to go with Marvin Jones in if they're playing, you know, Denver.

[Jason Moore]

It was a funny moment for me where I had talked about on the periscope of why I'm just not sure that Brandon Cooks is there yet for me as a wide receiver. I just, I watch him and I'm. I don't know, something is missing for me and I'm like, But you know what? He is very, very fast.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

And then on the, on his huge touchdown, it's just the commentators like, wow, he's very fast.

[David Johnson]

That's what he's got. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because that's, that's. He turned on the jets and you couldn't catch him. So that, that's where his value comes from. Which won't hit every single week, but when it hits. Yeah, it's very large.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. He'll win your week. Golden Tate. I almost signed him. I almost signed him on Sunday morning. Saw him on the waiver wire, eight for 165 and a touchdown. Back in business for the year.

[David Johnson]

You know what is interesting there? I think he, he benefited. He had a couple downfield targets, but he's had that all year long. He looked like he had his mojo going, but they were, they usually throw a ton of balls to the running back. And without Theo Riddick there, Justin Forsett was not very involved. Zach Zinner was the lead back and he was not very involved in the passing game. The receptions. I think that he benefited from the absence of Theo Riddick with extra targets. And I agree with you, situations like that.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you're absolutely right. Terrell Pryor, two touchdowns, nine for 75.

[David Johnson]

This dude is a beast, man. When I watched how terrible the throws were that he had to catch, I mean, he has some wide like there was. There was an important 4th and 5 or something near the end of the game where they ran this. They sell out to run and just to buy open a one on one situation with Terrell Pryor and they get him wide open, wide Open in the middle of the field and Cody Kessler runs around and throws it directly into double. He forces him to move into double coverage. But then Terrell Pryor just goes up over the top of the guys and grabs it. He's a beast. And so when, when you've got a guy that's got that kind of freakish athleticism, you're safer in some of these situations.

[Andy Holloway]

What is the impact of McCown and Corey Coleman's return? Because to me, I don't buy into Prior losing value with Coleman. I mean if the offense is improved. Look, you still had this monster game from Prior, but he only had 75 yards and they lost and a lot of this was last ditch effort here. Do you what is your thought, Mike, on Coleman and McCown?

[Jason Moore]

McCown I think improves Terrell Pryor. I love Josh McCown as my fantasy or when I have a wide receiver and Josh McCown's throwing the ball, I love it because he just throws it up and he's a much better quarterback than Kessler. We know that McCown has a monster strong arm. So I don't think Pryor loses value. Coleman, he had the one big game, I, I totally get it. But he's still, he's still a rookie. This missed time is not going to help that out. So I'm fine still with Prior.

[David Johnson]

The only thing that I would say is we've only seen one game with both of those guys there with Josh McCown and Corey Coleman there. Corey Coleman had a monstrous huge game in that game. Terrell Pryor was 3 for 32 and no touchdowns. So on the heels of this monster game and with Terrell Pryor being really good, if you can get top value for him in a trade, personally, because I think things aren't going right now. He is the center piece of that offense and there is just no other option. There will be other options as the season goes on. So I'm willing to look at moving him.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Kendall Wright had a big game. We'll talk about Cole Beasley by the way in a minute as well. He was one of our stud muffins of the week. Julio Jones, Kendall Wright, last two names on my list here. Monster game from Kendall Wright. He only played a limited amount of snaps in this game. It was very low. It was a very low amount of snaps. He was 8 for 133 in a tu.

[Jason Moore]

So you're saying you're not buying into Kendall right moving forward?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm just saying the potential for outlier is there because of the matchup. Right. We just talked about the fact that the Browns are sieve and because of the very limited. You know, you had. Delaney Walker basically did nothing. You had a complete goose, I believe, from Tajay Sharp, Walker, and you didn't have right on the field very much. I'm not saying he can't be something, but between the injury history and the low snap count, I'm just kind of throwing it up there as the outlier week for now could be.

[David Johnson]

You could also argue that his low snap percentage is because he's been coming off of injury. It's going to continue to ascend and if he ends up playing, you know, 70, 80% of snaps, that he would be what we had hoped Tajie Sharp could be. And we've seen it in the past from Kendall Wright. So it could be an outlier worth at least. Just keeping your eyes on.

[Jason Moore]

Wright was banged up on that touchdown catch, if you happen to see it. He. Because he had to go up to get it and landed really hard.

[David Johnson]

Has he ever not been banged up on.

[Jason Moore]

Just saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The scale is heavily tipped on the outlier side for me, only because Andre Johnson, Rashard Matthews, Tajie Sharpe, Delaney Walker and. And DeMarco Murray on an offense that just doesn't pass the ball a lot. So we'll see. We'll see. Running backs, Shady, the slippery fish. Slippery fish, man, he's good.

[David Johnson]

He was going downstream. This. This time he wasn't swimming upstream. He was just going, you know, super fast.

[Andy Holloway]

I wasn't watching that game. And I keep getting these texts and it's like, oh, you know, the Sean McCoy going crazy, going buck nasty, as Mike would say.

[Jason Moore]

As he was.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I get a message that his season's over.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it was. I believe, in fact, I said, Shady McCoy's dead. And then. Well, well, well, because he went down in a heap. The helmet was off immediately. He was clutching at the knee and the.

[David Johnson]

The play itself looked pretty bad. Yeah, he runs right into the knee, bends it sideways. He.

[Jason Moore]

But he went full Paul Pierce on us where this was a catastrophic injury. Everybody. I'm talking all of Twitter was, oh, crap. Like Shady was tearing it up, went down, goes off to the side. He's. He's able to kind of walk gingerly off. They starts doing drills on the side. What is. What is happening right now? And then he went back in the game. It was.

[Andy Holloway]

Tore it up some more and scored again. So it was 19 for 140 and three. Everybody saw this coming. Jay Ajayi, 25 for 204 yards and two touchdowns. Also. Nobody saw that coming.

[David Johnson]

Shout out to our man, our production manager, Brooks, who I had to play this week, who played Jay Ajayi. So he saw it coming and I had to deal with that nonsense.

[Jason Moore]

I will say on the scope, I was asked directly, do you have concerns about Arian Foster's workload? Not really. I mean, he. I feel like they waited for him to come back. He's not going to come back till he's healthy. The team has shown. Adam Gates has shown over weeks that he does not care for Jai's play. And then Jai was the guy.

[Andy Holloway]

So that got three carries. I for.

[Jason Moore]

Many apologies for that.

[Andy Holloway]

Three carries for Foster, 25 for a Jay. And they won at home against Pittsburgh.

[Jason Moore]

And Pittsburgh is.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

Pittsburgh is a solid run D, too. I mean, it was very bizarre. So let's say Jay, you moving forward.

[Andy Holloway]

Jay moving forward is one of many running backs on the team.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You're not saying he's the starting running back.

[David Johnson]

No, I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

Interesting.

[David Johnson]

He has not won me over with that performance. It was a very good performance. I need to see it again. If he's on waivers and I mean, like. And I have.

[Jason Moore]

You know, people are going to have to make the decision.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, I would stash him on your bench, see what happens.

[David Johnson]

There you go. I'm not going to start him next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, Terence west was 23 for 87 and two touchdowns, four for 36 in the air. Javorius Allen had absolutely zero touches, and Dixon was very limited. Terrence west at this point needs that. We need to have a conversation about him for fantasy owners. Is he a running back to the rest of the season at least. Is he a one?

[David Johnson]

He's a. I think he's a high end. Two.

[Andy Holloway]

They seem very committed to him now.

[Jason Moore]

And he looks fantastic.

[Andy Holloway]

He looks great.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, for now with him in the passing game, four receptions, he's. He's a weekly start.

[Andy Holloway]

Talk about turning your career around.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All you got to do is get out of.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have Terrence west or Jonathan Stewart rest of season?

[David Johnson]

Ooh.

[Andy Holloway]

Both of them had two touchdowns this week.

[Jason Moore]

I'll still go with Stewart.

[David Johnson]

I think I will as well. The injury concern would be the only reason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, Stewart, they just. Historically, back in the D'Angelo Williams days, Stuart was used a ton in the passing game. They do that. They don't do it at all. Now Fozzie Whitaker comes in for those passing downs at times. Stewart had zero catches this week. That's the only thing that's kind of frustrating about being a Stewart owner is you need goal line carries or he.

[Jason Moore]

Doesn'T give you and Cam Newton ciphers those frequently.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and I brought this up to.

[David Johnson]

Jason this week, talking through this, I think, because it's close, but I think Terrence west would be the better player to own. Interesting, because, you know, I've said this for a long time that those Cam Vulture touchdowns, they really limit Jonathan Stewart. And if Jonathan Stewart's mostly just a between the 20s guy, Terrence west is used in more situations, it's close. I'll say that. At the very least, I'm 50, 50 on that.

[Andy Holloway]

What I said to you this week came to fruition. They got on the goal line and the number, Jonathan Sewer's number was called.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, because you said that the worries over the concussion, they weren't going to call Cam as much around the goal line.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think that they were going to want to keep him a little safer if you've got it. And then if Stewart succeeds doing that, which he did this week, that changes the equation.

[David Johnson]

So how does their coaching change with Cam now that they're one in five and firmly out of the playoffs, do they continue?

[Andy Holloway]

I wouldn't call them firmly out of the playoffs.

[David Johnson]

I just did.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. They look, did you see Cam walk out of the. He walked out of the press conference again and he was moping and. Next question, next question. Look, it's tough, you see, when a guy is braggadocious and has so much bravado and celebration, people want to see the other side. And look, he looked like the super bowl loss. He was not happy. Walked out of the equation. I think he's good enough to get everything back on track. I'm personally in the market for Cam Newton. I mean, that's kind of my mindset because I think he just. I mean, look, he's still in this loss, but he's 24, 27 for 47 for 322 and two and a two point conversion. So it's tough. So we talked about Terrence West. James White had a monster game through the air, 8 for 47 and 2 through the air. He's a must. A must start every week in any PPR format. You know, what is he in a standard league? A three.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's definitely lower. The. The question for him. We have time. So maybe this conversation is a bit premature, but the Dion Lewis factor of. Or do they maybe do the Patriots say okay, James White's playing great. We don't rush Dion Lewis back. We let him take the season off.

[David Johnson]

We're going to have a lot more information this week because Dion Lewis should now be eligible to practice.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[David Johnson]

And so we'll push that forward.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's one of those things. As a fantasy owner, you don't want to overreact to the future. And I've noticed that with the way I'm thinking about Jordan Howard. Jordan Howard was somebody that I was like, well, he's got a bye week and a couple tough matchups coming up, so maybe I need to go sell him. But it's like when your workload is.

[Jason Moore]

Heavy, there's very few guys with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So I just think you can't overreact there. All right, I'm going to give you some other names. Talk about who you want to talk about. Spencer Ware, Lamar Miller. Finally. Yeah. Goodness. I got. I got half of them.

[Jason Moore]

I called for an ouch on td. We almost got there.

[Andy Holloway]

Christine. Michael Christian.

[Jason Moore]

Michael could have had three touchdowns. He wasn't getting checked for a concussion.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Jones and Ezekiel elliott. Matt Jones 16 for 135.

[Jason Moore]

He looked pretty good.

[David Johnson]

So fast.

[Jason Moore]

Matt Jones. The curious case of Matt Jones. I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you want to.

[Jason Moore]

No, I think.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you know what? Week five.

[Jason Moore]

It's week four. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And you are been wrong five times.

[David Johnson]

Let's get five times. Because Matt Jones has had some bad games. But let's. Let's give it a couple more weeks. If he's good for a couple more weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he'll get.

[David Johnson]

You will need to apologize to Matt Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

It might be Lamar Miller finally. Finally delivered on the promise of this season. 24 for 149 and 13 for 29 and a touchdown through the air. And then Spencer Ware had a monster game. Broke his, I believe his yardage mark for his career. 24 for 131 and one in that rainy day against the Oakland Raiders defense. Jamal Charles was. Was good. He scored, I believe, where this week out touched him two to one.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

We were having a heated debate before the show about where and Charles and I think it has to be brought up because fantasy owners want to know what to do. They want to know what they do with these guys. And look, you're going to. It sounds like you're going to have to side with myself or with Jason. No, I don't.

[David Johnson]

I don't think that's true because here's what I'm doing with both of those guys. Personally, I'm. I'm willing to buy both of those guys. I don't. I don't think that Jamal Charles, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Don'T disagree with that.

[David Johnson]

Is not worth owning. But what I had been saying beforehand is, you know, I was almost tempted to make Spencer Ware my rising star of the week because, you know, look, Jamal, once Jamal Charles is back, Spencer Ware is worthless. Has been the narrative in my brain that's been like coming into the season.

[Jason Moore]

And the public's brain.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, sure. I think that's what people think. And what I am starting to realize, how slow they've brought Jamal Charles back, how good Spencer Ware has been for them on the season, how important to that team, the past, where they used to have Jamal Charles, really, you know, infuriatingly. Who was the other running back there? Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Thomas.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you're going all the way back to Thomas Jones.

[David Johnson]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you thinking Niall Davis?

[David Johnson]

No, no, no. I was thinking of Thomas when Charles was splitting. Yeah. And Thomas Jones was the. Was the one. But Jamal Charles scored more fantasy points. I could see that kind of a situation happening here because Spencer Ware. Why would you take him off the field? Why would you not have that be like a 50, 50 backfield.

[Andy Holloway]

It could be a Coleman Freeman split where both guys have value. I do. I agree with your first. Maybe we are in more agreement. I agree with the contention you can buy both because Spencer where can be bought as a. As a handcuff right now.

[David Johnson]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe not after this week, though. Rob Gronkowski, Kobe Fleener, we are. We are not flying through these. Kobe Fleener, start of the week, six for 74 and it's rushing down superstar. He also had a rushing touchdown on a fourth down end around for the Saints, but scored twice. Big game. And then Gronk smash 7 for 162 and a touchdown. He's pretty good.

[David Johnson]

He was humiliating them.

[Andy Holloway]

Amari Cooper had a great week. Cameron Meredith had a great week. Tori Smith had a long ball from Mr. Kaepernick.

[David Johnson]

Yep. Do you see what the Buffalo Bills players came out and said?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that he stinks.

[David Johnson]

He's like, Kaepernick's done. He's terrible. Oof.

[Jason Moore]

That's brutal.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're moving on.

[David Johnson]

Raising Canes Rising stars of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Looks like a trifecta of wide receivers in our Raising Canes rising stars of the week this week. In this segment, we like to tell you about a guy that performed well so they. They qualify as a stud muffin. But we also want to Extend their value. We want to tell you these are guys we're buying into. These are not the. As I talked about, Kendall Wright a one week outlier in my mind. And so I'm going to kick it off. I'm going to go with. He was my start of the week last week. Trepidatiously, Cameron Meredith is my rising star. Second straight week of 113 plus yards this week, 11 catches on 15 targets. And once again Eddie Royal has his weekly injury. Now it's a toe to go with the calf look, Brian Hoyer storm for over 300 yards a week and it ain't going to Elshon Jeffrey.

[Jason Moore]

So Jeffrey had a good game, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeffrey did have a good game. But I'm just saying it's not exclusively to one guy. Cameron Meredith is showing that he can do it and Hoyer is basically saying, hey, I'm going to throw to whoever's open on this play. So do you buy into Cameron Meredith?

[David Johnson]

Absolutely, yes. Not only do I buy into the narrative of backup quarterback, is there going kind of more with the backup wide receiver. Plus Eddie Royal is gone. But I buy into the tape. When I watch Cameron Meredith, I'm surprised at his size and his speed. He looks, he looks good on the field for. He was undrafted, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Cameron Meredith, I believe was undrafted.

[David Johnson]

Yes. So I mean for. Usually when I watch an undrafted guy who's playing, he's. And you know, he doesn't really pass my eyeball test, but he passes my eyeball test here. So I do agree with you on Cameron Meredith. Worth owning, worth playing. Mike, why don't you take it off?

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna kick it off here with as a. I've affectionately started to call him the Dallas number one wide receiver and these guys just hate it.

[David Johnson]

I find it amusing.

[Jason Moore]

All right, but that's Cole Beasley, the heart ring. Look, Cole Beasley in a half point PPR situation has been under 10 points once and that was when he scored nine points. Like Cole Beasley is kind of that like, oh, you know, haha, he had a good game. Oh, he had another good game. Oh wait, he had another good game. You got to start paying attention to this trend. Cole Beasley is a weekly start. I'm not saying he's a superstar, but I'm saying his floor is extremely safe. When DEZ comes back, Cole Beasley's floor will be extremely safe because he's a, he doesn't play DEZ Bryant's position. That's Butler. Butler will be gone once DEZ Bryant is here. The Question for me is only is Romo versus Dak. And even when it was Romo and other backups last year, we saw Cole Beasley be effective. We saw the monster game with the two touchdowns. I'm not expecting that, but when you're talking, there's people out there. You got to start a third wide receiver every single week. And Cole Beasley is available in 55% of leagues, so people are not picking him up and playing him when they should be.

[Andy Holloway]

Both of his touchdowns came on goal line situations, play action, misdirection. He's a guy who gets separation. He always has. So now that he's more integral to this offense and to Dak Prescott, I look, you can't argue with the numbers.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, the offense definitely seems conducive to his skill set. My guy is a guy that we talked about earlier. It's probably no surprise. It's Kenny Brittle now, earlier this week. You know, I give credit to Mike here. Mike brings him up to me in the office. He goes, you know, you know who will surprise you when you go look at their numbers? And I was like, who? And he goes, kenny, Brick, go check him out. And I go look at his numbers. And I was really surprised because you've just. You've.

[Jason Moore]

If you're on the Rams and you're a pass catcher, we've buried you.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, exactly. Because the Rams. And you want to know a big part of that. The Rams, through the first two weeks of the season, they averaged four and a half points scored as a team. They managed four and a half points per game in those first two games. The last four games, they've averaged over 24 points a game. And the thing is, is, look, when I'm looking at Kenny Brett, I thought if he had had touchdowns, he would be, you know, one of the guys higher up on our waiver shows and things like this. How many games has Kenny Britt been under four receptions? Zero. On the season. How many times has he been under 50 yards on the season? Once. How many times has he been 75 yards or more through six games? Four of them. Four of six games, he's been over 75 yards. This game, he got involved with two touchdowns. I'm not saying they were, man.

[Jason Moore]

Touchdowns as well.

[David Johnson]

Well, he is a big, athletic dude, and when you watch, you're like, man, he needs to go to Kenny Britt more. So I'm not saying, look, you got to grab him. You got to start him every game. But he shouldn't be on waivers. No, he should be owned because he has shown in the past that he can get it done in fantasy case. Keenum is going more and more to him. He is capable of getting it done and if the trend continues, then we got to start him. So he's rising to me.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, those were the Raising Canes, rising stars of the week. And don't forget, game day tastes better with Raising Cane's tailgates full of fresh 24 hour marinated hand battered chicken fingers. That fresh brewed sweet tea.

[David Johnson]

Whoo.

[Andy Holloway]

So good. So visit raisingkanes.com check out your nearest location. Time to move on.

[David Johnson]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

I have a note here in our show, Doc from Brooks. I believe that says bolded players are super poopers. So you don't just have pooped in their big boy pants. You have a super pooper.

[Jason Moore]

You have the blowout.

[Andy Holloway]

I would call Russell Wilson a super pooper this week because you're at home in what seemed to be just a gorgeous matchup off the bye week against Atlanta and didn't throw for any touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

He's, he's still hobbled. You can, you can see it when.

[David Johnson]

He'S moving and, and the weather was a factor there. Sure.

[Jason Moore]

And I'll say this is, this is where in fantasy football the touchdown sucks. Like it can be glorious and it can be terrible. Russell Wilson, 270 yards. That's a fine game.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a keenum.

[Jason Moore]

That's a, that's a fun, that's what.

[Andy Holloway]

We call a keenum.

[Jason Moore]

No, because Case Keenan scored four touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's what I mean. But so Russell Wilson, anybody can have 270 yards passing.

[Jason Moore]

So it's, if you look through this list, the, the situation is lack of touchdowns. And it's just, it can be really brutal for a quarterback like Brian Hoyer. Over 300 yards. Again, no touchdown. So you're like, wow, he was, he was bad for fantasy, except he was a good quarterback. So that's just. Sorry for my tangent there that the touchdown could be a cruel mistress sometimes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Big Ben had a, had a tough game. Carson Wentz fell down to earth here. No touchdowns for Carson wins and Alex Smith had a bad game. The guys I want to talk about specifically are Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr. Now, Derek Carr, first drive of the game comes out, touchdown pass. It was raining. Maybe we throw that out. You know, it plays Kansas City where andy Reid is 15 and two off of the buy. So maybe a tougher matchup than we thought. But he was, you know, Derek Carr had two fumbles in an interception and only one touchdown. Is he a must start every week? I mean, is he. Would you rather have Carr or Stafford rest of the season? I guess. Oh, because before this week, Carr was the number three fantasy quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And I had said before this week that Derek Carr hasn't really played a defense where we saw this last year. Carr can light it up. If you were a. If you listen to the podcast, last year, we were frequently saying, sitting in the car, sitting in the car. Because when he's in A plus matchup, Derek Carr gets it done. But when he's in a negative matchup, you.

[David Johnson]

He.

[Jason Moore]

This is what he does. He hurts your team tremendously after building this base of confidence. So he's. I've. I've not moved him into must start yet. But between him and Stafford, it's. I would have. I would really have to look at the schedule. I know who I want more.

[David Johnson]

I like both guys. I think both guys are worthy of starting in the vast majority of matches.

[Jason Moore]

I'll agree with that.

[David Johnson]

I don't blame him on this one. If you watch that game, this was the rainiest game I can remember seeing. They were.

[Andy Holloway]

It was. Yeah, it was. Weather was bad.

[David Johnson]

Absurd.

[Andy Holloway]

So a lot of slipping around.

[David Johnson]

Yeah. And it's. It's not like, you know, it's not like Alex Smith had a good. You know, that just wasn't a good offensive game.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, and now the last guy from the quarterback pooped segment. A super pooper indeed.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Aaron Rogers.

[Jason Moore]

You mean Marin Rodgers.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean Aaron Rodgers. I get you were trying to say, man. Yeah, yeah, I noticed you've done a lot of puns lately, Mike. Like, I saw one on Twitter last night for Brock, but you tried to change it to, like, block. Like, he threw a lucky pass.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, that was Andrew Luck through. Through a terrible interception. And I was inferring, did Andrew Luck throw that or was that Brock Osweiler?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you got to follow the Twitter in real time. All I'm saying is that jokes are hard. Yeah, that's what I. That's basically what I'm saying is they're not good. Aaron Rodgers, 31 for 42, 294, one touchdown. Look, that's like the most yards he's thrown for in a long time. Still an underwhelming fantasy performance at home. Very disappointing game. And now, you know, I told Mike, I was texting him, I said, I no longer think it's just the receivers, you know, you've had now in the last two years. You've had Montgomery and Cobb Nelson, James Jones and Richard Rogers and Jared Cook. And you look, you've got enough. They're not all failing to get separation on every single play. I don't know what is going on.

[David Johnson]

With his offensive line is giving him time, as much time as humanly possible. So either every single wide receiver stinks or something is a little bit off and you saw a couple, you know, poor throws. And so, you know, here's the thing though is I'm not jumping off Aaron Rodgers. I'm not selling Aaron. Well, if I can sell him for the perceived superstar value, you always can. But I would do that any quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

You could do that all the time with Aaron Rodgers, you can always sell him for the name value. It doesn't go away. Think about it in your mind right now. Somebody offers you Aaron Rodgers, what do you think you're getting?

[David Johnson]

Well, I think I'm getting one of the top five fantasy quarterbacks rest of season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and you're always going to think that because that's what happens when a guy has been that for many, many years. And I'm not saying, look, he's going to have his games like against the Lions where he came out and he threw like four first half touchdowns on like 100 yards and it works out. It's just, it's not the consistent every week automatic Aaron Rodgers you used to know and love. I don't know if it has to do with the play calling that went from McCarthy to off of McCarthy to back to McCarthy. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the lack of a running game because the depth and the pain, you know, I mean the injuries there, you know, Starks out and Lacey hurt. I don't know what it is, but it's worthy of a pass. An alarm to me.

[David Johnson]

The next three weeks he's got Chicago, Atlanta and Indianapolis. He should be able to do some damage. If he, if he does there, you're going to be happy with him.

[Andy Holloway]

If he doesn't, I don't like him against Chicago, that's for sure.

[David Johnson]

I do.

[Andy Holloway]

Interesting. Very interesting. Chicago's been so good against the pass. Yeah, Blake Bortles did not have a good week.

[Jason Moore]

No, we did not.

[Andy Holloway]

Running back Mark ingram, you know, 900 points on the board. Mark ingram went 16 for 55. No touchdowns. Wasn't impressive to me.

[David Johnson]

This is what I was saying. I had been talking to you about Jonathan Stewart and I had said there's a situation that could happen where these two Teams just start airing it out, going back and forth and Stewart might not get his touchdowns. Well, he got his touchdowns. But what happened was Mark Ingram on the other side of the ball. They were just airing this thing out, throwing for a kajillion yards, and it didn't work out in Mark Ingram's favor. He still got 16 carries and two catches combined. 60 yards. You're not happy with them, but he didn't like completely crap your team.

[Andy Holloway]

It's one of the tough things about the Saints is because you have. Think about in your mind what you consider there to be fantasy options. You have Cooks, Snead, Fleener, Michael Thomas. I love Michael Keaton, Mark Ingram. I mean, you even have Taveras Cadet in the passing game. You have all these different options and it doesn't work out for all of them every week. It can't.

[David Johnson]

Can't.

[Andy Holloway]

So this was a week where Ingram didn't crap your team, but he didn't help you. I mean, maybe he did because he's in the poop segment. Eddie Lacy, 17 for 65. He looked really good for most of.

[Jason Moore]

The game, but still battling that age.

[Andy Holloway]

Has he scored this year? I do not think he has a touchdown. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I think he has zero touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to vet that one. I feel like he has one.

[David Johnson]

Eddie Lacy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[David Johnson]

I think he might be right there.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he has no touchdowns on the.

[Jason Moore]

He has no touchdowns on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

That'll make it tough.

[David Johnson]

That will change. I mean, it's. Look, he's getting enough carries every week. People said the same thing about Lamar Miller. If you're getting 16, 17, 18 carries a game, you're not. And you're the only running back there. You're not going to go touchdownless. It's just not going to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, I don't look at Lamar and Lacy the same because Lacey's touches have not been there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So, I mean, they have been improving.

[David Johnson]

With Starks having knee surgery. I think Lacy is a guy I.

[Andy Holloway]

Would buy right now, even with the injury.

[David Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, I'm going to get a great value on lacey.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, captain, 11 snap. Ryan matthews, nine for 60. He got 11 snaps. He was out touched by wendell smallwood by one and. Or he either out touched smallwood by one or small would out touched him by one. I know that for a fact. And then by far, the leader in snaps was Darren Sprolls.

[David Johnson]

Yeah. And that one. Yeah. The reason why is because if you Watch that game. Washington hopped out to the two score lead in the blink of an eye and so now they were behind and they were passing. That was Darren Sproul's game. He got involved, right. Matthews still ran well. I mean he got nine carries for 60 yards. That's 6.66 yards a carry. But he got game flowed out and what that says is important to understand. He can get game flowed out. His upcoming schedule isn't necessarily the best. So if you can get value for him. I was saying last week, yeah, he.

[Andy Holloway]

Plays Minnesota, Dallas and the Giants on the season. The last four games, nine attempts, two attempts, 11 attempts, nine attempts.

[David Johnson]

I'm out.

[Andy Holloway]

I am out. I was out before the season but I'm. And then the only game he succeeded in Cleveland, it was Cleveland at home. It's very well, he saved his second game. The 9:32 is still pretty good last week.

[David Johnson]

He had a great game last week was good because he was involved.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this, I do not blame you at all but I think this is. It's red alert for Ryan Matthews for sure. But the Eagles offense as a whole the last two weeks has been really bad. The only reason they were in this game because Wendell Small would ran a punt back and then they had to pick six. That's why they were in the game.

[Andy Holloway]

We are running out of time on the show today. So what I'm going to do here with some of these remaining poop candidates is I'm going to give you their names and I just want to know if you consider it an outlier bad week or something to be concerned about. So just tell me if you're concerned or not. Carlos Hyde, outlier. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not concerned.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah Crowell, concern, growing concern. Jeremy Hill, par for the course.

[Jason Moore]

This is what he is.

[Andy Holloway]

Rashad Jennings, outlier, not worried at all.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, is a good run D. He's back from injury.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're buying Rashad Jennings.

[David Johnson]

Yes, I just bought Rashad Jennings.

[Andy Holloway]

Antonio Brown, we're moving over to the wide receivers. Antonio Brown.

[David Johnson]

Hey, people need to know. I will say this real quick. People are worried because of the Big Ben thing and saying should I trade him? Should I trade him? Because without Big Ben he's not. He is not the same fantasy wise but Big Ben should only miss a couple weeks. I'm a little bit worried about Antonio Brown. Whether or not you should trade him as is this. You can trade him but you better be getting a David Johnson, a Julio Jones. There's like three or four guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's who trades the team that trades Antonio Brown is the team that needs to win in the next two weeks, like to save your season because one lander Jones and one bye week. So if you can flip him for a guy post by. Or, you know, you got to get a haul for Antonio Brown. But that's the person that I would categorize. Look, Will Fuller and Sammy Coates were both active and both did nothing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was. It was rough for Coats. I mean, he. We. We weren't sure if he was going to be active. And then they. He was a surprise active and then they scaled him way back and the entire Pittsburgh offense was bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Hypothetically, if you were somebody that went out and spent money on fab for Sammy Coates last week, you can't be liking your decision because you have.

[Jason Moore]

With the. With Big Ben out.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, I'm just saying you had this week the injury. You didn't get to play him. And if you did, you were burned and Which a lot of people did by the way. People played him because they saw him running out of the tunnel and the tweets were going out there.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So people played him. Then you've got. You still have the injury. You have Landry Jones and you have a bi week. Now you have to hold the guy you spent a bunch of fab money on.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, it's not. Not I can agree with. Not a great situation. Crabtree, not worried at all. That was a hurricane.

[Andy Holloway]

Demarys Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders, man, those.

[David Johnson]

Guys crapped my rankings. I'm just. I'm just saying I feel good about my rankings this week. Except the Broncos receivers on you. I'm not too worried, though, going forward. I think Trevor Simeon, he only had four days to get ready. He was still dealing with the left shoulder injury.

[Jason Moore]

I would say he had two weeks.

[David Johnson]

To get ready because he was not practicing for the previous. Right.

[Jason Moore]

But they had talked about it.

[David Johnson]

Okay. He had four practices.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the difference?

[David Johnson]

He had four practices to get ready. I think we can all agree on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Also under the spotlights. Hadn't been out there like that quite as much.

[Jason Moore]

We'll see the Doug Baldwin. I'm just saying the Broncos, the last couple of weeks, their offense, maybe people are figuring some things out.

[David Johnson]

I'm not worried about Doug Baldwin at all. If you are, I'm trading him to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk after the show. Julian Edelman.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Hasn't done it. Can't win with him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We've had two weeks at Brady and I don't know. I don't know what to think of Edelman right now because last week you had Hogan and Martellus Bennett where everything. And this week it was Gronk and Julian Edelman and James White. Right. And where in the James White touchdowns you thought, okay, well, maybe this is going to Edelman. I'm a hold for now.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know, I think Edelman might be more effective in those actual competitive games. Yeah, I agree. Where they need a catch. I don't know. Alan Robinson not worry. I want to know about Alan Robinson.

[David Johnson]

I have a little worry. Look, he beats up on. You know, you just said that the.

[Jason Moore]

Bears are a tough passing defense.

[Andy Holloway]

They are.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

But why did he disappear?

[Jason Moore]

These things happen.

[David Johnson]

Yeah, these happen a lot. I'm not crazy concerned. The one thing I would say I believe they've got a terrible playoff schedule. And so for a guy like that, that's going to give you boom games, going to give you crap games and not going to be there to really come through this year in the playoffs like last year. His playoff schedule was amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Ty Hilton and Jeremy Macklin, any concern for either of those guys?

[Jason Moore]

Ty Hilton still had nine targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Macklin was in the rain. They were up. They ran the ball like crazy.

[Jason Moore]

Macklin, that's no good. That's par for what I think of Macklin.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[David Johnson]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, real quick through the tight ends. Delaney Walker, what happened?

[David Johnson]

Seriously, man. Seriously. Come on. The Cleveland Browns, I'll tell you what happened is Kendall Wright took a couple of the entire offensive early offensive drives away from anyone else because he just ran touchdowns in from across the field and then they ran the ball, but it stinks. Delaney Walker not worried moving forward, but he crapped. I'm more worried about Zach Ertz moving forward.

[Jason Moore]

Zach Ertz very worried.

[David Johnson]

Ouch.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Julius Thomas, Julie Stahl, he's whatever.

[Jason Moore]

He's in the barfy tight ends.

[Andy Holloway]

Travis Kelsey not worry.

[David Johnson]

Going for it again. That was a complete hurricane game. I don't, I don't.

[Jason Moore]

This is Kelsey, though. This, this is what we get from Kelsey. You're going to get. You're going to get these 3 for 32s every now and then because that's what they're going.

[Andy Holloway]

We're going to get into more of these guys. We're going to talk, you know, if you didn't hear name like Tevin Coleman, we're going to get into these guys this week. So hang tight. We're over an hour here on the show, so we got to wrap it up. But the Monday night game tonight you've got everybody's favorite, the Cardinals. I was really looking for there guys.

[Jason Moore]

I did not know where you were going.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, you've got Fitzgerald, John Brown, Michael Floyd, tonight's game. And then you have Marshall matched up with probably Patrick Peterson for most of the game. On the other side. Is this a game where a new one would be a very sneaky start?

[David Johnson]

Yeah, I like a new here.

[Jason Moore]

Possibly. Possibly. I think Marshall will be okay.

[David Johnson]

Austin Severian Jenkins as well might do something here.

[Andy Holloway]

This is just a game to see what ASJ has on Monday night before you go out and right. Maybe he's. Maybe he's in waivers tomorrow because of that. So we got to wrap it up here. We'll be back tomorrow. Check out jointhefoot.com for a fantasy football community. Thanks for tuning in.

[Jason Moore]

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[David Johnson]

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