Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - More Free Agent Madness, Mailbag

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Episode "More Free Agent Madness, Mailbag" (March 14, 2017)

Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Release Date: March 14, 2017

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1. Introduction

The Fantasy Footballers kick off the episode with friendly banter celebrating PI Day, sharing personal anecdotes, and acknowledging Jason Moore's twins' birthdays. This light-hearted start sets the stage before diving into the core topics of the day.

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2. Free Agent Madness

The trio delves into the whirlwind of free agency activity, emphasizing the volatility surrounding running backs during this period.

a. Running Back Market Struggles

• Andy Holloway (02:31): Expresses concern over the challenges running backs face in the free-agent market, likening their situation to cowboys not being allowed to grow up.

• Mike Wright (03:02): Highlights notable running backs like Latavius Murray, Jamal Charles, Adrian Peterson, and Eddie Lacy being available, signaling a tough market for managers.

b. The Tyreek Hill and Terrell Pryor Trade

A significant portion of the discussion centers on a peculiar trade between Jason Moore and Mike Wright involving Tyreek Hill and Terrell Pryor.

• Jason Moore (04:34): Details the trade mechanics, explaining his desire to strengthen his running back lineup by acquiring Terrell Pryor in exchange for Tyreek Hill and Theo Riddick.

• Mike Wright (06:23): Comments on the swift execution of the trade, noting the community's mixed reactions with a poll showing a 56-44 split favoring the Tyreek Hill side (Poll Timestamp: 06:27).

• Andy Holloway (07:15): Supports the trade, stating, “I believe in Pryor over Hill,” and questions if Jalen Richard is merely a throwaway piece or a valuable asset.

• Notable Quote (Jason Moore, 07:32): “I believe that Terrell Pryor will finish next year as a top wide receiver.”

• Poll Results (06:27): 56% favored keeping Tyreek Hill and Theo Riddick, while 44% supported trading for Terrell Pryor and Jalen Richard.

Analysis:

• Pros of Trading for Terrell Pryor: Potential for a red-zone threat and synergy with existing receivers like Jarvis Landry and Jameson Crowder.

• Cons of Trading Away Tyreek Hill: Loss of a high-impact wide receiver in favor of someone who may not consistently perform at the same level.

• Community Sentiment: Slightly favors the retention of Tyreek Hill, but opinions are divided based on team-specific needs.

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3. NFL News and Free Agency Updates

The hosts provide updates on various NFL movements impacting fantasy football players.

a. Le'Veon Bell's Surgery and Steelers' Future

• Mike Wright (09:28): Reports on Le'Veon Bell undergoing surgery for a core muscle injury with an estimated six-week recovery timeline. Discussions revolve around whether the Steelers will offer Bell a long-term deal beyond the franchise tag.

b. Seattle Seahawks' Running Back Moves

• Jason Moore (10:37): Observes Seattle's pattern of visiting free agents like Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles, and Latavius Murray, indicating potential upgrades to their running back corps.

• Andy Holloway (12:15): Suggests that Thomas Rawls' value may decline as Seattle seeks to bolster their lineup, advising fantasy managers to consider trading or releasing him.

c. Rex Burkhead Joins the Patriots

• Mike Wright (13:08): Announces Rex Burkhead signing a one-year deal with the New England Patriots, speculating on his role as a potential special teams contributor or offensive player.

d. Cowboys' Off-Season Challenges

• Andy Holloway (15:53): Criticizes the Dallas Cowboys' off-season moves, highlighting the loss of key offensive linemen and questioning the team's ability to maintain depth and performance.

e. Alshon Jeffery Signs with the Eagles

• Mike Wright (16:53): Reports Alshon Jeffery's one-year "prove it" deal with the Philadelphia Eagles, expressing concerns about his value due to injury history and the Eagles' quarterback situation.

• Jason Moore (17:13): Notes that Jeffery’s move to a team with an unproven quarterback like Carson Wentz may impact his fantasy value, preferring him to land with an established signal-caller.

f. Terrell Pryor Joins the Redskins

• Mike Wright (19:23): Discusses Terrell Pryor signing with the Washington Redskins, evaluating his potential under Kirk Cousins and contrasting it with his previous performance.

• Andy Holloway (23:15): Optimistic about Pryor's future, stating, “Terrell Pryor, this next season on FanDuel is going to win someone a million bucks.”

g. Eddie Lacy's Move to the Seahawks

• Jason Moore (34:22): Shares breaking news about Eddie Lacy agreeing to terms with the Seattle Seahawks, pondering his fit and potential impact compared to other running backs like Jamal Charles.

h. Martellus Bennett Signs with the Packers

• Jason Moore (37:43): Analyzes Martellus Bennett’s three-year, $21 million deal with the Green Bay Packers, predicting he might be an overdrafted fantasy tight end due to Aaron Rodgers' limited tendency to utilize tight ends effectively.

i. Kenneth Dixon's Suspension and Baltimore's Backfield

• Mike Wright (30:24): Announces Kenneth Dixon's four-game suspension for PED violations, discussing its implications for Baltimore’s running back depth and fantasy managers’ strategies.

• Andy Holloway (33:55): Advises caution, noting the uncertainty around Dixon's role and performance post-suspension.

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4. Free Agent Winners and Losers

Throughout the episode, the hosts identify key free-agent signings that could positively or negatively impact fantasy teams:

• Winners:

  • Terrell Pryor (Redskins): Potential high upside under Kirk Cousins.
  • Rex Burkhead (Patriots): Versatile role in New England’s offense.

• Losers:

  • Thomas Rawls (Seattle): Reduced value due to increased competition and signings like Eddie Lacy.
  • Eddie Lacy (Seahawks): Uncertainty about his role compared to potential alternatives like Jamal Charles.

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5. Mailbag and Listener Questions

The hosts address listener-submitted questions, offering tailored advice for different league formats.

a. Taking Terrell Pryor in Dynasty and PPR Leagues

• Ryan Porter’s Question (45:09): Where to draft Terrell Pryor in a dynasty versus a half-point PPR league.

• Andy Holloway (45:55): Recommends taking Pryor in the fifth or sixth round in dynasty leagues, praising his talent and future potential.

• Jason Moore (46:23): Expresses regret over the trade, believing Pryor will excel as a top wide receiver, especially in Washington.

• Consensus: Pryor is viewed as a valuable asset with high upside in both league formats, albeit with some uncertainties.

b. Keeper Decisions in PPR Leagues

• Sam in Canada’s Question (47:24): Choosing between keepers like Michael Thomas, Lamar Miller, Adrian Peterson, Eddie Lacy, and Latavius Murray.

• Andy Holloway (47:49): Prefers Michael Thomas over Lamar Miller due to the PPR format, valuing Thomas' target share.

• Jason Moore (48:55): Advocates for Lamar Miller in dynasty settings, despite past underperformance, citing his potential with an improved offense.

• Mike Wright (51:48): Concerns over Kenneth Dixon's suspension affecting his long-term viability, suggesting caution.

c. Draft Position for Michael Thomas

• Michael Thomas Draft Strategy (50:35):

  • Andy Holloway (51:12): Advises avoiding drafting Michael Thomas in the second round due to inflated expectations and potential overvaluation.

  • Jason Moore (51:54): Agrees that Thomas may not live up to his draft position, suggesting he might be overdrafted.

  • Mike Wright (53:21): Highlights Thomas' high volume and second-half season performance, maintaining optimism about his fantasy prospects.

• Recommendation: Exercise caution with Michael Thomas' draft position, potentially waiting until later rounds to avoid overpaying for his current value.

d. Dynasty Trade Proposal

• Ross in Eureka's Question (49:26): Proposes trading a high draft pick and either Matt Stafford or Kirk Cousins for Jordan Howard.

• Andy Holloway (49:42): Rejects the offer, emphasizing the potential value of the draft pick, especially if Alvin Fournette or other high-value running backs are available.

• Jason Moore (49:40): Supports Andy’s stance, suggesting that trading away a high draft pick for Howard is not worthwhile.

• Conclusion: Trading high-value draft picks for individual players like Jordan Howard may not provide sufficient return, especially in dynasty formats where future picks hold significant value.

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6. Conclusion

The Fantasy Footballers wrap up the episode by reinforcing their community engagement, encouraging listeners to join their fantasy football community and participate in upcoming debates and discussions.

Key Takeaways:

• Running Back Market Volatility: Fantasy managers should navigate the challenging free-agent market carefully, prioritizing high-upside players while mitigating risks.

• Trade Evaluations: Critical assessment of trades involving star players versus emerging talents is essential to maintain a balanced and competitive fantasy roster.

• Draft and Keeper Strategies: Adapting draft positions and keeper decisions based on league formats and player potential can significantly influence fantasy success.

• Awareness of NFL Moves: Staying informed about NFL free-agent signings, injuries, and team strategies helps in making informed fantasy decisions.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore (07:32): “I believe that Terrell Pryor will finish next year as a top wide receiver.”

• Andy Holloway (23:15): “Terrell Pryor, this next season on FanDuel is going to win someone a million bucks.”

• Andy Holloway (51:37): “We don't know if he's a three down back yet.”

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Resources:

• Website: fantasyfootballers.com
• Community: Join leagues and engage with fellow listeners at jointhefoot.com
• Follow on Twitter: @theffballers

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Thank you for tuning in to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Stay connected and may your rosters be ever competitive!

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, coming to you from the fantasyjocks.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike wr.

[Mike Wright]

It's Tuesday.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a day.

[Mike Wright]

It is pie day.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it is.

[Mike Wright]

It is not. No, no, Jason, no, no. Not that kind of pie.

[Jason Moore]

You don't have to tell me, bro.

[Andy Holloway]

This is.

[Jason Moore]

This is three, one, four. This is my.

[Mike Wright]

I just didn't want. It's not banana cream day.

[Jason Moore]

I do love that kind of pie. You know, I think it's actually both. I think because it is PI day, it's also like, go have pie day.

[Andy Holloway]

You head down to the village inn.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Get some pie.

[Jason Moore]

Also, more importantly, shout out to my twins who were born on PI Day, turn 8 today. Happy birthday.

[Andy Holloway]

Happy birthday.

[Mike Wright]

That's exciting.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What are you doing? Are you going to celebrate it?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, we're letting them out of the cage today, so it's a big, big deal for them.

[Andy Holloway]

Cage days.

[Mike Wright]

Cage day.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We're gonna go to the big new aquarium.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

See fish.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Arizona was missing.

[Mike Wright]

Was a desert aquarium.

[Jason Moore]

A giant. A giant place for fish and dolphins.

[Mike Wright]

And do the tanks have just, like, cactus and like, tumbleweeds in them?

[Jason Moore]

I'll find out today.

[Mike Wright]

That would be. They should thematically design that aquarium. Welcome in, everybody. It is Tuesday, March 14th. This is the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Glad you're joining us today. Whatever you're doing, we're glad you've decided to tune in. We have a good show today. We're going to get into more of the free agent madness.

[Andy Holloway]

It was madness over the weekend.

[Mike Wright]

So much has happened for so many players that aren't running backs, because running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Everyone's holding off till the draft.

[Mike Wright]

They have it rough.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a song, right? It's like, parents, don't let your kids grow up to be cowboys. We need a new version for 2017 GMs.

[Jason Moore]

Don't let your team send parents.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's, don't let your kids grow up to be running backs.

[Mike Wright]

Impoverished running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you're, you're not going to make the money that other players get. You're going to take a beating worse than any other position.

[Mike Wright]

It's, don't do it. Nobody wants them. Latavius Murray, Jamal Charles, Adrian Peterson, Eddie Lacey sitting out there on the market. But we'll get into all the other signings. A lot of good discussions. We also have frequently asked fantasy questions later this week and we'll get into the mailbag and we'll, we'll just be talking fantasy football. That's what we do.

[Jason Moore]

That's what we want to do. That's what the people want. They want to know the takes on all of these.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I, I want to know some opinions on this show. For our quick question here, if you want to follow us on Twitter where we posted a poll about this question, you can do so @the ffballers. We're also on YouTube, we're on the Fantasy Sports Network and the website is the Fantasy footballers dot com. We have tons of articles hitting the website all the time, including Matt Harmon's reception perception. Mike is wiggling his finger.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, Fookland, if you're not following Andy Holloway on Twitter, he has. I don't know where he's found these news sources lately. He's getting just absolute incredible things that I'm not seeing these anywhere else.

[Mike Wright]

No, at Andy Holloway, it's. Yeah, I'm Schefter levels.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you are. You're getting the scoops.

[Mike Wright]

All right, quick question of the day. A trade went down in the most peculiar fashion yesterday between Jason and myself in a Dynasty league. However, this trade begs a bit of a debate. I think I traded Tyreek the Freak, who I have been very publicly supportive.

[Jason Moore]

Of, only 23 years old.

[Andy Holloway]

And you shipped him out of town.

[Mike Wright]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

To a guy who's been very not supportive of Tyreek Hill.

[Mike Wright]

I ship Tyreek Hill starts well and then now this trade. Explain what happened.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah, I guess. Mike, you don't even know what.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I was not a runner.

[Jason Moore]

The trade I was, I was looking to secure a slightly better running back. My running back two is a little weak and the rest of my team is championship caliber. So I just wanted someone to plug in. And Terrell Pryor was on my bench and I really liked Terrell Pryor. We'll talk about him today, coming up. And so I had Looked at trade opportunities with Andy, and I kind of had on my. On one of my tabs that were open, Terrell Pryor and I threw in Jalen Richard, just, you know, throwaway piece for my team.

[Andy Holloway]

Possibly.

[Jason Moore]

Possibly. No, sure. And then from him, Tyreek Hill and Theo Riddick, so I can get, you know, a younger wide receiver, you know, and then I can get Theo Riddick as a startable option on my bench to get that running back two spot. I did not offer the trade because I was not sure that I wanted to actually do that. I'm not sure that I like that trade for me. And Andy turns to me a couple minutes later and says, how can I get Terrell Pryor from you? And I go, oh, that's interesting, because I had a trade up. I go to my computer, I click the send trade button, basically, so he could see the trade. I was like, I literally had one up that I was looking at. He takes a look at it, and I'm thinking, well, I don't know that I actually want to offer that. I go to the page to look at canceling the trade. I go to look at, like, maybe I should cancel this trade offer before he accepts. And I hear Brooks from the other office go, a trade has been accepted in your league. I was like, what?

[Mike Wright]

I did pull the trigger very quickly.

[Andy Holloway]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. So in your infinite wisdom, you thought I could tell him with my mouth, using. Using the English language, this is what I was thinking about offering. Instead, you thought you would send a binding contract?

[Jason Moore]

There was a novelty. There was a novelty to it. It was like, how funny that I had something up. I want you to see it. I want to prove to you that I was looking at a deal and we made it. So that's.

[Mike Wright]

The deal's done. Terrell Pryor, Jalen Richard. Or do you like the Tyreek Hill, Theo Riddick side? We put the poll up on Twitter. It was currently 56, 44 in favor of Tyreek Hill and Theo Riddick. However, I like the replies. That said, this is team specific.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, certainly is. I mean, this is the classic running back upgrade for a wide receiver upgrade type of situation.

[Mike Wright]

So you believe in Prior Overhill?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I do.

[Jason Moore]

But it's.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very interesting because like I had alluded to earlier, I think that it's. It's a possibility that Jalen Richard is not a throwaway piece if they don't.

[Jason Moore]

Draft another running back or sign another running back.

[Andy Holloway]

And he was great.

[Mike Wright]

You know, Derek Carr once compared him this Past year to Barry Sanders.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, it's just he says he has his sights set on being legendary.

[Andy Holloway]

He was. He was tremendous. I mean, the guy's shifty. The guy earned playing time over an actual draft pick, right?

[Jason Moore]

That is true. Do you know how many times he got 10 carries last year?

[Mike Wright]

I looked this up. Zero.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah, but five.

[Mike Wright]

5.9 a carry? Less.

[Andy Holloway]

How many times did Theo Riddick get 10 carries?

[Mike Wright]

Well, solid.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Different type of running back.

[Mike Wright]

So.

[Andy Holloway]

No, they're the exact same running back.

[Jason Moore]

No, not at all. When you come to pass catching ability, that's. That's Theo Riddick's game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's Jalen Richard's game, too.

[Mike Wright]

They didn't catch a lot of passes. It's an interesting trade. I took it. Some people might. Someone in our league said, hey, I'm kind of confused. You love Tyreek Hill. Why'd you do that trade? And it was about team makeup to me. My team has Jarvis Landry and Jameson Crowder. Terrell Pryor represents red zone threat. To me, he represents that big bodied receiver that can do some things that, you know, Jarvis Landry historically can't do. And so for me, I took it as an opportunity to get one of the bigger athletes in the league. But I definitely understand the perspective. I feel like I paid a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Rashard was tied for low, low carries, but with those low carries, was tied for second in yards per carry. 5.9.

[Jason Moore]

Also, just to answer your question, six times is the answer for Theo Riddick, who did not play a full season.

[Mike Wright]

Neither did Amir Abdullah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Say, how many of those games were Amir Abdullah playing?

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's get. Let's get into the news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around.

[Andy Holloway]

Numbers are so fun.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they are.

[Andy Holloway]

You can just make them say what you want. This is what I want the numbers to say today.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. That's how I get trades done. All right. Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell finally had surgery today to fix a core muscle injury. This was yesterday, so not today. Normal timeline for recovery on this is about six weeks. He's tweeted that he's feeling good, thanked everybody for their support. Anything of note to worry about here with Lev?

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean, in six weeks, he'll be perfectly fine for OTAs training camps. The bigger question for Lev Bell is this period while he's franchise tagged, do the Steelers give him an actual long term deal?

[Mike Wright]

When my wife and I went and celebrated our anniversary last summer at Universal Studios, we got on one of those backlot Tours. It's starting to feel like Seattle is giving those tours to all of the aged running backs. With Adrian Peterson leaving the Seahawks, leaving Seattle without a contract, Jamal Charles is visiting tomorrow, Wednesday. Latavius Murray was going to visit Seattle. And so it seems that we, we can't say who's going, but it sure seems like Seattle would like another running back.

[Jason Moore]

Someone is going. Someone is. I mean, I doubt that they bring all of these guys in and then say, nope, Thomas Rawls is our guy. It just doesn't seem that way. In fact, this news is part of the reason I made the trade offer, because Thomas rawls was my RB2 and I'm worried. He's. He was a guy that was not drafted to be the heir apparent. He had a very good back half of the rookie year and then they gave him the next year as a shot and he couldn't stay healthy. And now Seattle is saying we got to fix this. So it's worrisome to me at the very least.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree. I have him as a potential keeper in another league. I'm very concerned. I believe that if you're a fantasy owner right now, my best advice is to cash in on any name value that Thomas Rawls currently has in your league because he does have some. Because he was an attractive piece at the beginning of last year and he had a, a pretty good playoff game. I think he had over 140 yards, something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think that Pete Carroll is taking bids like to play for the Seahawks?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, I just think they need look pro size. Rawls both hurt last year. Yeah, no production there. Lynch was a stalwart. He played through injury constantly but played always played. So, yeah, we're going to do a show probably next week that'll be called free agent. Winners and losers, upgrades, downgrades. We'll get into, you know, we'll let some of these running backs sort themselves out and we'll talk about the impact. I mean, Thomas Ralphs is a potential loser of the free agent period.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's already there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, you're probably right. You're probably right. So. All right. Latavius Murray visited with the Jaguars, the Jaguars on Monday. So I mean, you know, they, they are in this similar situation. Chris Ivey wasn't healthy. TJ Yelden wasn't perfectly healthy. Neither was productive. And here we are looking at another three horse backfield potentially where I don't think Yelden's going to get thrown by the wayside. I think he'll be used just enough to hurt somebody else's value.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This is another one of those teams that I think they're not spoken of when you talk about, well, what, what teams are drafting these great rookie running backs. I don't hear the Jaguars thrown out a lot, but I believe that they are in the running to upgrade that position.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The fact that they're bringing in Latavius Murray shows that it is at least on the radar.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you need depth. I mean, to me, I still have that, like, slight belief in Chris Ivory. If the guy could just stay healthy, he'll be okay. But I don't know if he can stay healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Never has.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Here's some news that might excite Mr. Mike the fantasy. Oh, right. ESPN's Field Yates reports that free agent running back Rex Burkhead is visiting with the Patriots. He visited with them yesterday on Monday. Rex Burkhead is a name that has been thrown out as kind of a sneaky running back signing potentially. I started to think about him and say, well, where can he really land that would make a difference? That's one place he could land and make a difference. We saw Dion Lewis did not come through at the end of the year. James White has obviously been playing a role, but LeGarrett Blunt's potentially out of town. So Rex Burkhead, is he a sneaky keeper dynasty pickup right now?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I assume he's owned in your dynasty leagues.

[Jason Moore]

He should be. If he's not, grab him.

[Andy Holloway]

If he's not, I would pick him up. Hopefully you did when I been talking about Rex Burkhead. But Deion Lewis is actually a very team friendly contract. They could cut him and only absorb a $200,000 dead cap hit if they wanted them move on from Lewis and his injuries. Not saying that's necessarily going to happen, but there's just, there are, there are ways and situations that Rex Burkhead could go there and not just be an ancillary, he could be part of the offense, but it's also, it's the Patriots. So it's also possible they sign him and then all of a sudden he's just like a special teams guy.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Doug Free has retired from the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

He's free.

[Jason Moore]

You know, a lot of the Dallas fans, I tweeted out that I think it's a bigger deal than at least the Dallas fans think it is. They're going, oh, this is good. He was always good for, you know, holding call on every important drive or, you know, they've got depth but the reality is you cannot lose two important, really good offensive linemen and have it make no difference whatsoever. Because even if your starters are okay, depth matters. In the NFL, you lose the depth. I mean, they needed that depth last year when Lel Collins.

[Mike Wright]

Nobody is a bigger Cowboys fan than our producer Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And so Brooks, let's put it to you this way. If the Cowboys off season was a, was a plate of food, how's your stomach feeling right about now? I'm a little queasy right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he's the Pepto.

[Mike Wright]

I've talked to a few Dallas fans and they're feeling that way.

[Jason Moore]

Well, part of the problem for Dallas's off season is the other teams in the division. I mean, the New York Giants to me right now, are winning the free agency this year just like they did last year. They've added Brandon Marshall, they added to their offensive line, which was extremely important. They're looking good. And then you've got Alshon Jeffrey going to the Eagles. Thankfully you have a top down mess in Washington for Cowboys fans.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, maybe it's an illusion.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, maybe it's fine. I mean, I still like Gruden. They've got, you know, Kirk Cousins. They could be an okay team. But things seem.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you have disorganized. I won't get into it, but you have Ezekiel Elliott popping up on TMZ again. So that's always a fun activity for him. So let's go ahead, let's move into all of this free agent craziness.

[Jason Moore]

Madness.

[Mike Wright]

We were waiting for the shoe to drop on a number of players and they have now signed and some big trades, Brandon Cook's trade. But let's talk about Alshon Jeffery first. Alshon Jeffrey signed a one year deal, heads to the Eagles.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very interesting.

[Mike Wright]

You actually saw Alshon Jeffrey and Torrey Smith land in Philadelphia. Now, what are the implications here? I mean, if you were an Alshon Jeffery owner, are you excited? Are you happy? What I mean, it's a one year deal. This is a prove it deal again for Alshon. Maybe because the market really wasn't there.

[Jason Moore]

It wasn't because he is now. This will be his third contract year in a row essentially because his first contract year resulted in just a franchise tag then. So he's playing for his contract last year and now he gets a one year prove it deal. I'm a little worried as far as Alshon's value now. The things that make me feel a little better about it. Carson Wentz last year was fifth in attempts as a rookie, throwing the ball over 600 times, seventh in completions. And he did not have a good wide receiver core. So it is possible that they develop a really good connection there. But I would prefer if I was an Alshon Jeffrey owner to have him go to a team with an established quarterback versus a second year, you know, hopefully up and coming quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it'd be nice if he had an established quarterback. It's strange to me that, like you guys were saying, maybe the market dictated this, but Alshon Jeffrey, who has not stayed healthy the last couple years, has bet on himself with a one year deal thinking he can go back into the free agent market next year and really cash in. Certainly it could work.

[Mike Wright]

He probably can. I mean, the way wide receivers get paid in the NFL, they're the ones that generally I look at Terrell, not Trial Pryor, but Pierre Garcon.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, went out and got paid. It's an interesting gamble on his part, but he really is the best weapon on that team by a long shot by the.

[Andy Holloway]

For the Eagles. I love it. Yes. Pairing your franchise quarterback with a possible franchise wide receiver. Get that out of the way. Let Jordan Matthews kind of return to the slot and. Which should be, you know, a big upgrade for Jordan Matthews in his production. And like Jason said, the passing attempts are absolutely there to maintain value for Alshon, assuming that Doug Peterson continues to call the game that way.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Terrell Pryor has signed a one year deal. Now, I've seen reports that it's 6 million, but then Adam Schefter tweeted that it was an $8 million deal, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

6 with a 2 million incent.

[Mike Wright]

Ah. So it's both.

[Jason Moore]

I think if that's the case. If that's the case, then I believe it's an $8 million.

[Mike Wright]

Ah, okay.

[Jason Moore]

Because despite the fact that I just traded Terrell Pryor and I have major.

[Mike Wright]

Terrell Pryor senior, by the way.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I apologize.

[Mike Wright]

He's the new senior.

[Jason Moore]

The new senior. Look, he is. He's coming into a great situation. We just talked about Alshon. He takes a one year prove it deal. But he goes with, you know, an unproven commodity in Carson Wentz, who last year threw a bunch to other receivers that are. That are still there. They still has Zach Ertz. He still has other terrible receivers. Plus they brought in Torrey Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

They have them, right?

[Jason Moore]

They're still there.

[Mike Wright]

They're still three of the bottom five.

[Jason Moore]

Now that Tory Smith is there. Yeah, three.

[Andy Holloway]

Three of the bottom Five the Scott Barrett's tweet.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but with Terrell Pryor he's coming to Kirk Cousins who has proven himself in my opinion at the very least, I think in all three of our opinions that he is a quality quarterback in the NFL and certainly for fantasy he could get it done. And unlike the situation with the Philadelphia Eagles, you have DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon who were the only two wide receivers to have more than 100 targets each. On the Redskins, they're gone.

[Mike Wright]

That's the first time ever by the way that 2000 yard receivers and two guys with 100 plus targets have left one team in the off season. I actually think it's over hyped the loss of those two guys. When you have prior you have Jameson Crowder, in a third year you have Jordan Reed. I actually think that this, the loss of those two guys is overhyped From.

[Jason Moore]

A team perspective I agree. From a Terrell Pryor perspective, I disagree.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I mean the numbers are the numbers. I mean you lose that many targets, they have to go somewhere, right? And I'm with you.

[Jason Moore]

Let them go to the 6 foot who just had 1000 yards with the Cleveland Browns.

[Mike Wright]

Six different quarterbacks of quarterbacks, not counting himself.

[Jason Moore]

And this is why I regret the trade already. I believe Terrell Pryor will finish next year as a wide receiver. One he'll be a top wide receiver. I mean he was in the 20s last year with a garbage offense. He's only going to get better.

[Mike Wright]

The focal point that is the, that's the argument we brought this up last.

[Andy Holloway]

Night is Washington's target share. They just no one ever gets force fed the majority of the targets.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with that. But you still have a lot of fantasy production there from the Redskins and I would rather be. I mean you've seen it before, we've talked about it recently. The Devonte Adams and the Amari Cooper, Michael Crabtrees and you know there's plenty of teams where when you've got a good quarterback and a good offense, you're going to produce more for fantasy than being the focal point of a terrible team.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Cleveland averaged 204 passing yards per game last year. Washington averaged 297, third in the league. Cleveland was 28th in the league. That's a basically 100 yards of passing for Washington that Cleveland didn't have. You lose all the targets and then you add in that type of production, there is at least potential for Pryor. I think he's one of those guys that you the price for Pryor is going to be lower than the potential. It doesn't mean the upside is guaranteed. But he's one of the guys that you could buy like I did. If you're looking for a gym, sure.

[Andy Holloway]

And I tell you what, Terrell Pryor, this next season on FanDuel is going to win someone a million bucks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Scott Barrett, our good friend Scott Barrett, he tweeted this out. So Terrell Pryor, when he went to his pro day wasn't a wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

He wasn't tested.

[Andy Holloway]

He was in the league as a quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Had he been in the wide receivers at his combine, his speed score from his Pro Day in 2011 would have ranked him second best since all wide receivers since 2006. I would have put him just after Calvin Johnson, just ahead of Julio Jones. And if you look at the whole list of everyone that's in that top, they are really, really good. I mean it's like a who's who list of productive fantasy receivers.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know if people agree with me on this, but he reminds me a lot of Brandon Marshall with his catch radius. You know, the quarterbacks last year in Cleveland didn't put the ball right where it needed to be all the time. But Pryor made something out of nothing a lot of the time. So I'm very excited to see what happens in Washington. I certainly hope as a trial prior owner and a Jameson Crowder owner that Kirk Cousins is a is a Washington Redskin for next year. He has come out and said today, this morning that he did not demand a trade, that the only thing that happened was he asked Dan Snyder whether the the Redskins were shopping him. He has since signed that tender. So it's very likely he remains in Washington for at least one more year. We will see what happens with that. But if you're an owner of trial Pryor, that trade I just did, I don't want to see Kirk Cousins going anywhere or I might be weeping in the corner.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. For this season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

No one even guaranteed that it's a real signature. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Shock.

[Andy Holloway]

I was shocked.

[Mike Wright]

Look, the rumors about a Brandon Cooks trade have been there. And so this. This let us talk a lot about the fantasy implications. I have been very open in saying I didn't believe that Brandon Cooks can land anywhere in the NFL. That would be a better situation than New Orleans. New Orleans. He was indoors for half his games. Drew Brees is Drew Brees and he lands in New England. Now, if you had told me, hey, go ahead and rank the spots he could land in, I probably would have put New England and Green Bay right up at the top because of the quarterback situation. That being said, they're outdoors. You have Malcolm Mitchell, Rob Gronkowski, Chris Hogan, Julian Edelman, and whoever comes out of that backfield, whether it's a Burkhead and a Lewis and a white. Look, he spreads the ball around. In my opinion, Brandon Cooks is going to have some big games. He's going to have some disappointing games.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, my. My game plan right now. So the kind of. After the trade happened, I'm really thinking about why would. Why would they make this move? And because Brandon Cooks does. He plays a good amount from the slot. Right. But they already have a slot receiver in Julian Edelman. Except Julian Edelman is in the last year of his contract. He's 30 years old. The Patriots are not the sentimental type. They will not keep you around just because of what you have done for the team. If it's time to move on, it's time to move on. I don't know if that's what's happening with Julian Edelman, but to me there was a. There's a possibility they brought Brandon Cooks in to be Julian Edelman's replacement, which in the long run would be incredible for fantasy purposes. My plan right now is I don't have Brandon Cooks anywhere because I was. I've never been a huge believer of what he can do. It's too hot and cold for me. But if he becomes that focal slot receiver for the Patriots, who. It's not just Adam and you have West Welker Amendola. You've seen tons of guys be awesome for the Patriots in that spot. But I think it's going to take Brandon Cooks a while, a while to catch traction. I agree with Andy. He'll have some big games here and there. But I think that the people who are going to pay up for Brandon Cooks in redraft dynasty, people are going to get start getting nancy after a few games. That's when I'm going to pounce for the future of Brandon Cooks because I think it's. This is a long term play.

[Mike Wright]

I love that take. I think that's well thought out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I like it as well. I definitely think he's the heir apparent to Julian Edelman. The question is, what's he going to be able to do this year? And so for redraft leagues coming into this season, I think people will be too hyped. He'll be overdrafted on Brandon Cooks because they think, oh, he's going to Tom Brady, which is like, so what? He had Drew Brees. I am down on Brandon Cooks. You know, I would probably move him down a few spots from where I had him. However, I think this is great news for Tom Brady. I mean, it is.

[Mike Wright]

It's a more of an upgrade for Brady than it is anything else.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, you're not just adding, you know, another piece. Too many pieces. You're adding a really special piece that can take any and break it. 80 yards for a touchdown. It's hard to know when to start the Brandon Cooks, but he makes it much easier to know when to start Tom Brady, which is every single week.

[Mike Wright]

No doubt about it.

[Andy Holloway]

If he doesn't just immediately start Playing slot, which he won't. Who do you think he hurts more, Chris Hogan or Malcolm Mitchell?

[Mike Wright]

I think he hurts Hogan more. I think Hogan will have his spots. We've seen that with some wide receivers in New England over the years. You know, Danny Amendola here and there is featured in a game plan, and then he's not. I think that's. I think that's what happens with Hogan.

[Andy Holloway]

Do they get tired of those double catch. Chris Hogan's patented catch the ball twice, single time it's thrown at him.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's talk about Kenneth Dixon, guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

I was literally just about to make that sound with my mouth.

[Mike Wright]

Suspended the first four games of 2017 for violating the NFL policy on PEDs. You mix that with Danny Woodhead. And Danny Woodhead's contract is not a little contract. I mean, he's a little guy with a big contract.

[Jason Moore]

I like Danny Woodhead this year and.

[Mike Wright]

He says he's 100% back from injury. Certainly opportunities in that backfield with the passing volume that we've seen out of Baltimore, I don't know what else they're doing at the running back core. But Terence West, a suspended Kenneth Dixon isn't going to get it done between the tackles. So it's going to be Danny Woodhead. It's probably going to be another piece, whether through the draft, through free agency, who knows, Maybe a Legarette blunt type of player lands there and mixes all together with this gross, disgusting.

[Andy Holloway]

They already had Terrence West. They've tendered him. He's going to be. He should be back.

[Mike Wright]

He'll be competing.

[Andy Holloway]

And it was last year it was Terrence west and Kenneth Dixon. I mean, no one really took over to be, you know, that 65% snap type of a guy. So now with Kenneth Dixon in the dog. Oh, what?

[Mike Wright]

Wait, really?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We got breaking news.

[Mike Wright]

Hold on, hold on. You know, I'm a little slow today. So.

[Jason Moore]

Breaking news. I hope that you traded Thomas Rawls the second we told you to because Eddie Lacey has agreed to terms with the Seattle Seahawks, according to Ian Rapaport.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

That is breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

And we got. We'll go back to that, but. So Terrence west was already splitting time with Kenneth Dixon. Now you're in the doghouse of the four of the four game suspension. Jason's very upset with himself.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You're left holding the bag. But Danny Woodhead, I mean, is. He is a. He's a passing down specialist. He is actually excellent on the goal line. Baltimore's running backs accounted for over 20% of the targets that had them tied for eighth. So, I mean, they, they love even.

[Jason Moore]

More the year before.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. So they just, they like to throw it to the, to the, the running back position. I agree. I like Danny Woodhead. I think that he will once again be underdraft, underdrafted, and will give you a very, very solid return.

[Mike Wright]

I mean. No, look, let's just face facts. I don't. Nobody wants to draft any Woodhead and start every year. They don't want to start him.

[Jason Moore]

Most people don't, but I do.

[Mike Wright]

Look, you just. Yeah, okay, so most people do. Maybe you've learned. We learned our lesson over the years.

[Andy Holloway]

But running back one multiple years, it's really hard.

[Jason Moore]

The Foot Clan will draft Danny Woodhead late because it won't cost you much. And you will have a guy that you can play on many weeks that you'll have the opportunity to start, and you'll be happy to have that on your bench.

[Andy Holloway]

How are you feeling on the Kenneth Dixon temperature for Dynasty?

[Mike Wright]

Not good. No, I'm not feeling good about it.

[Jason Moore]

I want to see what happens in the draft this year and see if they do add a running back or not.

[Mike Wright]

Fair. Fair.

[Jason Moore]

But if they don't, I'm still okay with Kenneth Dix. I mean, he was the one thing. He showed enough when he got the ball that he can be productive. He's going to miss the first four games. People are going to be, you know, murderously off of him. He's just. He's dead to them.

[Mike Wright]

Murderously.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's what I mean.

[Mike Wright]

Like danger.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Super hardcore. But in the long term, I think. I think he.

[Mike Wright]

Does he have a good running back potential up crease?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, yes, he could. He could have a significant upgrade.

[Andy Holloway]

Does anyone.

[Mike Wright]

Hold on, hold on. Here's what I. Here's what I will say. Jim Harbaugh came out and made the comments, the positive comments about Kenneth Dixon. He already knew all about the suspension. They've known this suspension for a while.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was going to ask.

[Mike Wright]

So the comments being positive at least are a check in the right direction. Now, you say things to motivate a player if, if they find somebody else that can get it done. He's not, you know, he's not going to be loyal to Kenneth Dixon. But he did come out and say that as opposed to, hey, we need to, you know, we're moving on from Kenneth Dixon.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, performance enhancing drugs.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I'm sure it was a. He had that brutal injury right in the Preseason. I think he might have been doing some things just to heal up.

[Mike Wright]

Talk to Antonio Gates.

[Andy Holloway]

Getting that Wolverine blood.

[Mike Wright]

All right, circling back to this Eddie Lacy news. Let's give some live commentary and opinion here. We didn't. I certainly didn't think Lacey was the one that was going to land in Seattle. I thought it would be Jamal Charles. So I'm going to, I'm going to miss on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, we didn't even talk about the first thing for Alshon signing. That put me at, at two of the free agents of the year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, let's not talk about it. I need Romo to go to Houston bad or I'm going to just be going to be off this year. But Eddie Lacy, I mean let initial gut reaction pro size Rawls initially, Lacey.

[Jason Moore]

Collins without really looking into the statistics and looking at the scheme and all of that because I was not expecting any Lacey to go there. I feel like what they are trying to do is find a Marshawn lynch and you look at the guys that are available and you say okay, this guy is young enough. I think in Eddie Lacy compared to the Adrian Petersons and the Jamal Charles where he can be their back for the next few years. He runs hard and aggressive and hits people the same way that Marshawn lynch did. The problem that I have is. Yes, exactly. I don't know that he is good enough a la Marshawn lynch with a bad offensive line to really be as productive.

[Mike Wright]

Do we have contract information on Eddie Lacey yet? Because I'm intrigued.

[Andy Holloway]

Not yet. To me this is a, to me this is, this is bad news for Thomas Rawls. I think Eddie Lacey can be okay, but it's CJ Pro size time, man.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean it looks like it's one year, five and a half million.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not bad.

[Jason Moore]

That's a very good for you running back with 3 million fully guaranteed. So they are, they're committing at least for this season to Eddie Lacey on a.

[Mike Wright]

On a one year start to wonder with that deal and with what pro size showed last year. All of a sudden Rawls goes from is he a keeper, is he a starter to is he just a backup? I mean look, Lacey's going to get the rock. Pro size is going to be better on third down by far, far than Thomas Rawls.

[Jason Moore]

I.

[Mike Wright]

All of a sudden Rawls is third in that depth chart to me because the first and second down roll was what he did. Pro size isn't going to get taken off the field in place of Rawls on Third down.

[Jason Moore]

No Rawls. I agree with you. I think Rawls is irrelevant now. Fantasy. Oh yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That's why I'm like things change so quickly. This is why we're going to do winners and losers next week because you're going to see three or four more running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Who's a loser? Mike, you were correct. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

How's the Rolls Royce sounding right now?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the Rolls Royce. I don't even think it makes noise. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

It's going that.

[Jason Moore]

What's that?

[Andy Holloway]

The battery sound? Was that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there you go.

[Mike Wright]

Someone taking the wheels off on the side of the road. Oh, goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk about down for parts.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk about Martellis Bennett three year, 21 million dollar deal with the Packers.

[Jason Moore]

You got a good fantasy productive tight end going to play with Aaron Rodgers and therefore you have a guy that's going to be overdrafted in my opinion because I wasn't sure where you were going. I went back and looked at the entire career of Aaron Rodgers. Every single season that he's been there, who has been his tight end one. And where have they finished for fantasy football?

[Mike Wright]

Break it down, brother.

[Jason Moore]

He's had Jermichael Finley before five of Aaron Rodgers seasons. Jermichael Finley was the number one tight end for the team for fantasy five. Yeah, I know. I was shocked. The reason why we're shocked is because.

[Mike Wright]

Every year he was hyped. I remember the Jamaica Finley over and over. Oh, this is the year.

[Jason Moore]

Here's Jermichael Finley's finishes. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

He was Eric Ebron before. It was cool.

[Jason Moore]

He finished 37th. 37th. Which was the their number one tight end that year.

[Andy Holloway]

That's really good.

[Mike Wright]

Solid.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, like the fantasy tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy tight end 37, 19, which is also terrible.

[Mike Wright]

Terrible. That's Fedorowicz level.

[Jason Moore]

In 2011 he was the number five tight end and that's where all the hype came from. So he had a number five tight end once in 2011. The year before that, 37, 13, 21. And coming forward with the, you know, tight end 26, tight end 36 last year. And Richard Rogers was tight end nine. So in his entire career off of one play. Yeah, exactly. Twice has he had even a tight end one. And usually, I mean it's just not Aaron Rodgers game plan. It's not the packers game plan. And that's not to say that Martell's. Bennett can't be a tight end one. He's great. He's a good player.

[Mike Wright]

He'll have tight in one Weeks. Yeah, but he, we already have the example. He already played for Tom Brady.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Without Gronkowski. And he wasn't consistent enough as a pass kit. Now, you know, what can he do for Green Bay? He makes him a better team. I think he's a better tight end than Jared Cook. So they also added Lance Kendricks. They could play two tight end sets now. So it'll be, it'll be interesting. By the way, with the Lance Kendrick signing, pay attention to tyler higby in st. Louis.

[Jason Moore]

I think all three of us love Higby.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we do. So. But last year for Green Bay, 103 targets went to the tight end position. That has green bay at 23rd for percentage of targets to the tight end. 16.6% of targets went to the tight end. And if so if you're wondering like what's a strong team? Well, let's see. Tennessee was 10th and they were at just under 25%. So you're talking a major discrepancy of. Aaron Rodgers just doesn't consistently throw the ball to the tight end.

[Mike Wright]

I want to get into the mailbag and answer some listener questions. It's important that we do that on today's show. I'm going to go through some quick hitting kind of other free agent news that's maybe not as prolific. Cardinals resigned Andre Ellington to a one year deal. The Buccaneers are giving Jacquiz Rogers a two year deal.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they. So they got their starting running back.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you said that before. That's true. Beware of Tampa in the draft for running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

Robert Turban's back in Indianapolis also, you know, he was the ultimate vulture on the goal line of Frank Gore two year deal for 4.1 million. That's not chump change. So he'll be utilized right now. That's another team that I'm looking at to strengthen their running back core in the draft. Terrence Williams resigned. Four year deal, 17 million.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't digest this earlier, so.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it was, it was interesting. I think that he took, I feel like he took less money than he could have gotten to stay in Dallas.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's not good for his fantasy value.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he's.

[Mike Wright]

He's a fantasy vegetable at the wide receiver position too.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he's, he's fantasy mold.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't go that. He's fantasy celery. It's a vegetable, I think, but it doesn't give you much nutritional value.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, fair enough. That's a pretty good one.

[Andy Holloway]

Put the ants on the Log.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Well, then it becomes delicious. Well, he does.

[Andy Holloway]

Every once in a while he gives a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

If you want to play with fire. Saints have agreed to terms with Ted Ginn. Ted Ginn said he believes Drew Brees can help extend his career.

[Jason Moore]

I bet he's right.

[Andy Holloway]

He is correct.

[Mike Wright]

Run fast, Ted.

[Jason Moore]

He's been playing with Cam Newton.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's going From a sub 60% completion passer to Drew Brees. One of the most accurate quarterbacks in the history of the league.

[Mike Wright]

Kendall Wright, one year, $4 million contract with the Bears. Who by the way paid.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my.

[Mike Wright]

Marcus Wheaton more money than Brandon Marshall.

[Andy Holloway]

No one wants to go to Chicago. Nobody.

[Mike Wright]

If you had to rank the wide receivers in Chicago starting today, this is what they go into the season with. Kevin White, Cam Meredith, Kendall Wright with Kevin.

[Andy Holloway]

With Cam and Kevin White, you could be okay. We still have no clue what Kevin White can be.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to say this right now. I'm sorry. If you're a Bears fan, I think you. I think you're the second or worst team in the league.

[Andy Holloway]

It's going to be tough.

[Mike Wright]

It's going to be a rough year. Raiders have signed Cordero Patterson. I, you know, I love Cordell Patterson for what he. He brings to a team, to special teams, gadgetry and special teams. I mean, that's all it is. But he's a great piece to add to Crabtree and Cooper and that offense. I mean, I like it.

[Jason Moore]

Has Seth Roberts resigned?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I believe he's good to go.

[Jason Moore]

So I was. I mean, that's probably one of the most hidden free agents I wanted out of there so, so bad. 20 red, 20 red zone targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Andy, you did gloss over the Mike Wallace will be back with the Baltimore.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, and we will, we'll get into that. I think extensively on our free agent winners and losers. But he is back with the Ravens. He's a winner and he's a winner. Jason, this next news is really.

[Jason Moore]

This is the greatest free agent signing of the off season. The Arizona Cardinals have signed former 49 kicks 49ers kicker Phil Dawson, who is a great kicker and they have gotten rid. He was born in 1949. Who is the worst?

[Andy Holloway]

He was actually in the gold rush.

[Jason Moore]

And in proof that the jets are trying to lose, the jets have signed Chandler Catanzaro.

[Mike Wright]

Are you still ranking him 32nd every week?

[Jason Moore]

You know, I think I'll let him be where he actually deserves, which will be more like 28. Okay, so he's not 30 seconds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Jets. He's he's gonna cost you a game.

[Jason Moore]

Or three or two.

[Mike Wright]

It's time to dive into the listener mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag, mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

All right. If you have a question you want to submit to the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click the questions button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB. Leave us a voicemail question. We try to get into as many of these as we can. Obviously we get a lot of questions submitted through, but we try to answer them, help your team out, help you get that foot clan title. The first question. I love the first question. Perfect. And we had no clue this news was going to break today, but Ryan Porter in Texas says, where should I take CJ pro size in my dynasty league and my half point per reception league? I'm interested to hear your answer, Mike, because I want to know if it's different for both of those situations in a regular half point league or a dynasty league.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. In a dynasty league. In. So in for context, in startup last year when rookies were included in the startup draft, I believe I took pro size in the seventh round. Seventh or eighth round. I would probably look at him in the fifth or sixth round now. I would. He's young, he's great. He's young, he's massively talented. I have stood by the fact that Thomas Rawls is not very good for years and now Seattle tends to all their moves at least say that they agree with me. And I think that pro size is very, very good and will be very good for years to come.

[Jason Moore]

I agree that pro size is good, but I think most, you know, when you look at most rankings, pro size would be in a dynasty setup like in the 80s as far as total, total player. I think this move with Eddie Lacy coming hurts pro size because his upside to actually I'm taking over the role. Right? Like that's the hope. When you draft pro size in the fifth, you're not hoping that he is the third down back. You're hoping that his third down back excels and he takes over. He's not taking over the role.

[Mike Wright]

Despite all of Mike's opinions on CJ pro size, the world agrees that he's not a three down back.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't, we don't know that.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with Andy and I am the world.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't know that yet. And it's, I mean that's, it seems strange for someone who has hated Eddie Lacy for years that you feel like him coming in, he's just going to take the job.

[Mike Wright]

$5 million puts him at top 10 paid in the. In the running back market. Yeah, you're top 10 paid running back. I think he's going to come in and take the job.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, to be fair, the sal. Well, the salary cap goes up every single year, so of course a new contract will put you in near the top. I mean, that's. You're talking. Tavon Austin is one of the highest paid wide receivers. Whenever you get a new contract, you're immediately one of the highest paid.

[Mike Wright]

See here, pro size is, you know, he's two in the bush to me, not one in the hand. Lacey's one in the hand right now. Chris Miller in Whitehall, Pennsylvania. Hey, guys, new Foot Clan member here. Question.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, welcome to the Foot Clan. I'm in a PPR league and I have the option to keep one of these players. Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas, Lamar Miller, Adrian Peterson, Eddie Lacy and Latavius Murray. Our keeper is in the third round. So what do you think here? What would you do there in a keeper league? PPR keeper league.

[Andy Holloway]

It's between Lamar Miller and Michael Thomas for me. And because it's ppr, I will go Michael Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

That is my pick as well.

[Jason Moore]

I just want to throw this out there. Lamar Miller. I tweeted this yesterday and yeah, I liked it. I believe Lamar Miller is a great pickup right now in dynasty settings. I know he. People feel like he burned you last year because he didn't come in and capitalize on the hope, but he still wasn't bad. He was an RB2 and he didn't even play the last two weeks. He had enough production where he didn't completely crap your team. But he had Brock Osweiler.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to say that Brock Osweiler had the diaper on and the poop particles leaked over onto Miller. Yeah, I mean, and Miller smelled bad because of Brock.

[Jason Moore]

You're stacking the box against Lamar Miller because you know Brock's not going to beat you. But if Tony Romo goes there, which I think right now is the expectation Lamar Miller is going to be productive, the offense is going to be fine. They've got DeAndre Hopkins on the outside and you've got a guy who's going to be getting the ball and he's going to be out there three downs. And I think once again, Lamar Miller is one of my guys.

[Andy Holloway]

With Billy O'Brien saying we gave him too many carries, especially early.

[Jason Moore]

No, not really because break down late. If you look at what he said in that he wasn't saying we gave him too many carries and we need to. We need to have him. He was talking about how, like, he's still going to get a lot of carries. Literally. This is what he's. He said he's still going to get a lot of volume, but they'll probably try to keep him away from the 30 touch mark, which is probably good.

[Andy Holloway]

Right?

[Mike Wright]

All right, Dynasty trade question from ross in Eureka, California.

[Jason Moore]

Eureka.

[Mike Wright]

I have the 101 pick in the upcoming Dynasty draft.

[Jason Moore]

I know you do, Andy.

[Mike Wright]

That's true. I do as well. Looking to trade the pick along with either Matt Stafford or Kirk Cousins for Jordan Howard. Good deal.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Probably not.

[Andy Holloway]

No. I like Jordan Howard, but hold on to that pick. We don't know if a Fournette goes.

[Jason Moore]

To the right spot. If Fournette goes to Tampa Bay or Dalvin Washington or. Yeah, I mean, then I would rather there was a Dynasty startup. I would probably take one of those guys ahead of Jordan Howard because, you know, the Bears situation, I mean, we got to wait till the NFL draft plays out. But I mean, to package.

[Andy Holloway]

But I would. I would certainly not.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would not.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's get into one more here. Let's do a PPR keeper question from Sam in Canada.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, bonjour.

[Mike Wright]

Ppr Keep five no penalties. Wow. Gurley. Where obj, Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, Martavis Bryant, Kevin White, Martellus Bennett. It's the first five.

[Jason Moore]

First five.

[Mike Wright]

Garly. Where obj, Keenan Allen and Michael Thomas.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's do one more. That one was too easy.

[Mike Wright]

Michael Thomas draft position question. Where do you draft him now? With Brandon Cooks being traded from Dugan.

[Andy Holloway]

In Pearland, Texas, TJ Hernandez has been tweeting out some. Some pretty fiery stats considering Michael Thomas current draft spot of. He is about the 10th wide receiver off the board. And just historically speaking, there's almost no way that he's going to like really return value at the 10. So I'm with TJ. I'm avoiding him that early.

[Mike Wright]

The problem.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem. It's because of market share of target percentage. And so third round would be great, but he's going to go in the second round. So it's. If you are taking Michael Thomas in the second round, you are creating this bed of expectations that he's probably not going to live up to.

[Mike Wright]

What about a dynasty league in a startup? Yeah, he's.

[Andy Holloway]

Then he probably is.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's going to be overdrafted in all formats personally.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And I've said this for a while.

[Mike Wright]

You don't think he's good for 100 receptions next year?

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's going to be great. I think he will be solid. He could absolutely be a one in dynasty leagues. If you think that Drew Brees has, you know, at least a couple years left, then Michael Thomas is a very high draft pick.

[Jason Moore]

I don't necessarily think he's good for 100. I know he had 92 receptions last year as a rookie and that was with Brandon Cooks there. But he also caught 76% of the balls thrown his way. That's not happening for his career. Otherwise he's, you know, first ballot hall of Famer. I mean, that's just one of those things where now with Brandon Cooks leaving, what does that mean for defenses lining up across the field? Michael Thomas, you have a year of tape on Michael Thomas that you didn't have last year, obviously. And now Brandon Cooks is not, you know, I know they've got Ted Ginn, but no, no offense to Ted Ginn. You're not Brandon Cooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's say, you know what you do? You pass on Thomas, you wait quite a few rounds and then you grab my man Willie Snead.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, Willie Snead is looking really good. And I. And it's not to bash on Michael Thomas or say he's not going to be good, but I do agree that where Michael Thomas is going right now, I would be hard pressed to think he's going to return value.

[Mike Wright]

I kind of buy in, I don't know, I buy into the volume there. I mean, the second half of the season he was on pace for about 110 receptions, 11 touchdowns. Obviously turned it on in the second half of the season. I guess I buy in that there will be enough volume for him.

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm looking at ADP from fantasy football calculator and I don't think it's had enough time to, you know, to reboot after the Brandon Cooks trademark. So Michael Thomas was already going at the back or right at the middle.

[Mike Wright]

Talk about some guys around.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. So here's the two guys right in front of him. Ty Hilton, Dez Bryant. After Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, DeAndre Hopkins, Devonte Adams, Keenan Allen.

[Mike Wright]

I would take Michael Thomas over all those guys easily, sure.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'm saying I think that's the.

[Mike Wright]

Perfect spot because I would not take him.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are the over.

[Mike Wright]

Des Bryant.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are the wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. No, I would not take him over DEZ Bryant and I would take him over the four guys. You said Ty Hilton. Ty Hilton. I might take him ahead of. I would because I. I'm looking. Ty Hilton just doesn't score the way Michael Thomas could score, so. And I. You said you definitely take Ty Hilton. Welcome to fantasy football.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

That is it for today's show. I want to invite you to check out jointhefoot.com or fantasy football community. You can join leagues with listeners of the show. Dedicated, great commissioners, great listeners. And look, we have an awesome community. I don't know how we ended up three knuckleheads like us getting such a great.

[Andy Holloway]

Two knuckleheads and one outstanding gentleman.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I thought you were saying two verified and then one unverified man of the people. Man of the people. By choice.

[Andy Holloway]

By choice. No, I. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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