
Fantasy Football is over for many people, but for the true awesome fantasy fans, it's never over. If your league still plays fantasy football this week, it's definitely in championship mode. Who will be the best players from the Denver Broncos, Kansas Cit
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Foreign to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway and Mike Wright.
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Welcome, welcome.
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That's the championship horn.
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Is that because we're in the championship game?
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Well, yeah. I mean.
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Or for all of our listeners that have made it.
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Yeah, it was more for everyone else that was a little early to start talking about us.
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No, it's never too early to talk about us.
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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you live. Ish.
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Live ish.
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Live ish. Recording.
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It is Tuesday, December 16th at 2:07pm in the afternoon Arizona time. So if you're listening right now, then it's live.
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Yeah, my name is is Mike the fantasy Hitman Wright. I'm joined by my co host, my fantasy compadre, my the destroyer of Destroyer dreams, Andy Holloway.
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Yeah, yeah. Welcome to the show. I am Andy Holloway and it's our privilege and honor to be with you once again in week 16 of the NFL season. Oh my goodness. We're here.
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Some say it's the best week of the season.
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Yeah. About what percentage would that be?
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The 5% or so who make the fantasy title games.
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Yeah. I mean the nice thing is in a lot of our leagues we have players that are maybe they're out of it, but they're in another league. So a lot of people play more than one league. So a chance of being fantasy relevant down the line here.
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If this is not your championship week and week 17 is your championship week. Stop it.
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I was gonna say there's only one thing to say to that. Enjoy playing backups to the backup next week to decide a title that you.
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Should never have to worry about that for your title.
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If you're the commissioner of a league that has a championship game in week 17. Go home.
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Just stop. But week 16, that's where it's at.
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Yeah. So for most, most leagues nowadays, this is your championship week. And so for us this is. We're bringing it yet again. Going to deliver some of the news and notes from around the league.
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We do. We do some writing for fantasypros.com going to. Have you seen the. The rankings, the top correspondence lately?
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That's you. You're the top correspondent.
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I'm actually I dropped down to number two but I've been killing it lately.
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Yeah.
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With the football coverage over at Fancy Pros. If you do not know what that is. It is fantastic tool online where you can get all kinds of advice from multiple sources, multiple experts where they will take a consensus of the of experts around the league and kind of average them out. So you're not Just taking one person's opinion. You can get the views of. Of kind of the fantasy community and see what. Where people's heads are at with rankings. Who should I start? Who should I sit? All kinds of fantastic, juicy information.
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Yeah. And they have lots of news and information. So break.
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They do have that as well.
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Breaking news and things like that. You can get on.
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Lots of good news on the Cardinals from yours truly.
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That's right. That's right. Mike is a fantasy correspondent for the Cardinals. Is this too early to talk about ourselves yet, or.
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No, no, now is the time.
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That's the appropriate time to let people know that all I do is win, win, win, no matter what. That's right.
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That's all we do for the third.
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Consecutive year in our main league. Mike and I are taking each other on in the championship game.
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I like that pause. It was nice.
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Yeah. Pretty good, right? So kind of against all odds, we were the 5 and 6 seed heading into the playoffs, but we face each other again, which is pretty. Pretty validating for our podcast and things like that. And it's fun. It's fun to face off. We looked at it. We're a lifetime three and three against each other in the. In the fantasy league. So.
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And it's tremendous for us because the. Like you said, it's the third time in a row consecutively, and our league mates are just so discouraged.
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This is the best part of fantasy football. It's gloating over a team that you quote, unquote, own. And.
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And this. Let's say, I end up getting second. It would be the most satisfying second place of my life. Just because the rest of the league is so fed up with our crap.
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Yeah, it's. It's pretty funny.
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And if you can imagine, we are very vocal about winning, especially me. Everyone, when I win, everyone knows it.
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You're the New York Yankees of the fantasy world, where maybe one or two people are your fan that live close to you, and then everybody else wants you to die and never win.
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So, yeah, it's very valid.
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So, yeah, maybe we. We'll talk a little bit about our matchup.
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Let's get in there helping everybody else.
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Sounds good to me.
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News and notes from around the league. All right, let's start with the injuries from this previous week. 15.
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Yeah. Take a look at some things that might affect you heading into the championship week.
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Peyton Manning, who was. He was also dealing with flu, apparently a really bad flu.
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Yeah. Ran off the field.
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Yeah. He hurt his quad at some point during the first half, and it's not thought to be serious or limiting him at all. But it's just something to keep in mind when you're making your decision for your champion quarterback.
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Yeah. Ty Hilton actually left the game on Sunday, much to the dismay of his owners with a hamstring injury. And you'll want to keep an eye on practice reports.
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Right. I have not heard anything yet.
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Yeah, I haven't heard anything that. That said he's going to be out this week, but those type of injuries, them heading into the playoffs. I'd be watching those reports closely because we've had guys like Hilt or I'm sorry, Julio Jones this past week who, you know. All I know about Hilton is his MRI was negative, so he should practice this week. It's just a matter of is he. Is he good enough to go.
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Hamstring injuries kind of suck for wide receivers.
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Yeah. Certain guys respond differently, too.
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So Frank Gore. I'll do both these because they're kind of connected, but Frank Gore got a concussion. He was knocked out and then his backup, Carlos Hyde hurt his back in the game.
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This is like the second time this year where you remember this happened with fred Jackson and C.J. spiller.
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Yeah.
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Where like the first guy goes down. So all the owners of the. Of the handcuff probably rejoice.
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Yeah.
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And then. Oh, dang it. I don't even know who the third string guy is. I'm embarrassed to say that I do. You do, huh?
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Yeah. It's our good. Our good buddy.
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Oh.
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Alfonso Smith.
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Is it really?
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It is.
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Ex Arizona Cardinal.
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So we'll talk about him because I actually. He's got some juice.
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Well, if he's the only guy going.
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If he's got the opportunity.
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How funny.
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Keenan Allen. This was. This news apparently broke today. He. He was dealing with an ankle injury that we knew about and I guess you're saying he broke his collarbone. He did.
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They said he broke his collarbone. Which is kind of unexpected. And so what's ironic or not ironic? Wrong word. What's weird about this is they haven't ruled him out for this week, but that's expected to happen any day because of the dual injuries.
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So Rashad Jennings continues to.
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Wow, he's hurt.
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Provide me fodder. And to.
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You said it all year.
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To rejoice in my proclamation. Not that he's hurt, but I just didn't trust him for an entire year. His ankle, he re. Injured it. I don't know if you can. I would not be trusting Rashad Jennings in my championship game.
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Yeah, I agree Ryan Fitzpatrick went from six touchdowns to a broken leg in record time. He broke his leg this past weekend. And then Tom Savage came in, looked horrible.
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Looked like a Savage.
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Yeah, he looked like a blind Savage. And he went down as well and hurt his knee. So this week it is going to be a wonderful opportunity for Thad Lewis and Case Keenum to compete for playing time.
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Unfortunately, I hear it's going to be Thad Lewis.
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Yeah.
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It's ridiculous that you have the only.
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Scream the Ravens defense.
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You have a quarterback on the Texans who is won the. The only Houston Texan playoff game in history in Mr. Keenan.
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Yeah. This is not convincing. Not convincing. Yes. The guy off the practice squad of the Redskins or wherever he was. Jake Locker, another stalwart of health, is injured yet again and his days in Tennessee are over because he's an unrestricted free agent and he's been put on IR.
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So Colt McCoy re injured his neck, which gave. That was much to the chagrin of Jay Gruden, who was forced to put Robert Griffin back in. Man, does that guy hate Robert Griffin.
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And Jay Cutler, he's just ruthless.
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Jay Gruden is a. Oh, you said.
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Okay, I'm sorry, I was thinking of. I thought you said John Gruden.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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I was listening to Monday Night Football and listening to him completely destroy Jay Cutler.
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I'm talking about his clown.
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Oh, yeah.
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Brother who is masquerading as an NFL coach.
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He did not like him either.
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I do not like him. The only thing that. The only thing that I like about Jay Gruden going forward is the hopes and dreams they've committed to him going forward.
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Yeah, he has a five year deal.
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Is the hopes and dreams that somehow he trades for Giovanni Bernard so he can leave my sweet, sweet Jeremy Hill all by himself in the Bengals.
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There you go. He wants to ring him over from when he coached him.
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So that's the only. The only use I have for Jay Gruden the clown. We need a clown sound effect on this board.
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I agree. Because we call people clowns all of the time. One of the biggest injuries, which for some reason is at the bottom of our list. DeMarco Murray, the number one running back because I wanted to build up to it in AC. Number one in fantasy or Le'Veon past him.
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Le'Veon has passed him.
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Okay. So he's been one of the best running backs this season. He has a finger fracture.
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Yeah. He has not been ruled out, which is just. That's fantastic.
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Something that Emmett Smith missed one game on, but it's not on. His dominant hand injury isn't. So I just, I just, I don't think he'll play this week.
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Yeah, I don't think so either. I don't know how you play him.
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So Joseph Randall needs to be. Needs to be right at the top of your list. Which takes us to our next section.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Alright, let's do it. Let me in, coach. Like I briefly went over at the beginning, we like the website fantasypros.com so we go to them for our waiver wire information. Fantasy pros gets together, I think four or five experts and then just has them make a list and then they rank it. So let's take a look at the list. On top, of course, is Joseph Randall.
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That's right.
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If he. If you're. Now if you're a DeMarco Murray owner and you are listening to our podcast at all and you still didn't have Randall on your bench, shame on you.
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Yeah. Not good. Not. Not good. Fantasy playing. Not good there. General managing.
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There may or may not be a fellow in our own fantasy league who was right to mark Murray and did not have Joseph Randall on his bench.
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Yes. And had he been going to the championship game, he'd be in a world of trouble because he'd have to start somebody else because Randall would be picked.
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Up probably another guy from this list.
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Yeah. So that's, that's rough. But Randall is the guy who will get the carries if DeMarco misses. So if you have him handcuffed, just be ready. Watching that right now. Jerry Jones came out today and said game time decision.
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Yeah. It's ridiculous.
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Why, why Jerry Jones came out and said it. I don't know. Because he's.
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Because he's the MC man.
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Yeah, I know. So Carlos Hyde is on this list, but he's not a guy I'm looking at. He's got MRI coming on his ankle back.
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Yeah. Because he. It was actually double injury. We just talked about the back, but he got, he got all mangled up in there.
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Yeah. Both are very. You know, he and Gore are super uncertain for this upcoming week. So keep watching the reports. But I don't think Hyde's gonna play.
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Yeah, I don't really have.
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I don't think they're gonna.
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I don't have a sense on it yet.
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Okay.
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Charles Johnson. Charles Big Bird Johnson. Have you seen that guy's hair? Yeah, it is amazing.
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Yeah, he. And he had another good game.
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Yeah.
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He's the Premier number one for Mr.
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Bridgewater for Minnesota I like. I suppose I like him if you are in need of a wide receiver. So Lance Dunbar is also on the list. He's the other running back in Dallas. He'll most likely get the passing down work. Dallas takes on the Colts. So here's. Here's something that I would factor into my decision if I'm gonna go. Randle or Dunbar. If. If. Let's say they're both available. It's very possible that Dallas is playing catch up in this game because Andrew Luck has been a monster all year. Now. He kind of was just halfway decent last week, but the Colts usually pile up the points. If Dallas has to catch up at all, it might be Dunbar in there. Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Yeah, they definitely trust Dunbar. And I think you've got that situation where, yeah, if they're ahead and they need to grind out, grind out the clock, it's going to be Randall between the tackles.
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Right.
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And like you said, if it's a. Probably. If the game's competitive or they're behind. Yeah, you're going to see it at minimum a split with Dunbar and Dunbar has some juice. So if DeMarco's out. Yeah, he's, you know. Yeah.
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A difficult thing is not just only playing the matchup, but. But in your head trying to guess what the game flow is going to be.
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It's kind of.
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It's.
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It's like Pierre, Thomas and Ingram.
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Right.
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You know, in this situation.
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So, ah, let's see.
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Harry, Douglas, of course, this list is filled with handcuffs. So to spe, you know, Douglas, Randolph, Dunbar.
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If Julio is out, fire up Douglas again. He always produces when one of the big guys is out in Atlanta. An interesting guy. He's back.
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Toby.
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Toby. Yeah, Toby. Toby Gerhardt. Denon Robinson's on the ir. Toby finally looks healthy. Ish.
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Yeah. As healthy as a Jacksonville runner.
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What's unfortunate for Toby is everyone has piled on him for probably his whole career and he finally had an opportunity and he got what looked it in the first game, it looked like he might be out. Like when he got a really, really bad horse collar tackle. His ankle got stuck underneath him. And he's tried to grid it out, but clearly has been hobbled because he's starting to flash a little bit now.
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He plays Thursday night.
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Yeah.
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So if you want him, grab him.
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You're going all in on Toby, which we're gonna talk. I'm gonna talk about Toby a little bit later in the show.
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There you go.
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Let's run through this list. Alfonso Smith, there He is.
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Yeah.
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On the list who could actually be.
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The sneakiest play because both of those guys are very questionable, so.
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Right.
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I also think Cecil Shorts is a guy that if Henny starts, they have a good rapport.
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Mm.
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And.
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And I believe Henny is starting. What? Oh, we didn't even.
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No, it's not. It's not done.
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It's not done.
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Yeah. It could be coach Speed because it's an early game, but they said Bortles is not rolled out.
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Yeah. We didn't go over him in the injury.
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Yeah. We try to stay fantasy relevant. Here's a guy really like Nate Washington.
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Nasty Nate is getting it done again.
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Yeah. I mean there's. He's got skill and he's performed. He's actually like in the top 20 over the last five weeks and performed well again PPR wise this past week. And you know, Kendall Wright, I don't think he's going to play again. And Justin Hunter's out for the year. So there's just limited options in Tennessee and Jacksonville can be beat. So I don't think Washington's the worst play if you're stuck.
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Matt Haziotta. This guy will not go away.
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I wish he would. I wish he would because he's a guy that. Does anybody have a big smile and grin on their face when they start Matt Asiata or do they just go crap when he produces?
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You look like the smartest guy in.
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The room when he has his three touchdown game every eight games. Anybody else on this list that's really.
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Kind of gonna go, Yeah, I will go homer for one for one second here and talk about Kerwin Williams. Now I'm gonna bring this to you with a first hand observation. I.
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You were in St. Louis.
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I was lucky enough to attend the St. Louis game with my father and I would. Kerwin Williams, he passes an eye test. He.
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With quickness.
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Yes. His. His initial burst is very good and.
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Averaging about five a carry so far since he's come in.
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And the. Our first. Our sorry. Arizona's first round pick from a couple years ago, Cooper, Jonathan Cooper has finally made his way back into the starting lineup after an injury to one of our guards or to our left guard. And since that happened, all of a sudden we can run the ball the past two games and it's going to.
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Be tough against Seattle.
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This is where I'll say I thought the Chiefs game was just the Chiefs can't stop the run. But Kerwin Williams looked pretty good against the St. Louis Rams who were coming in nuclear hot and Their specialty is stopping the run.
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You probably bring up the fact San Francisco ran against Seattle pretty well last week.
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Right.
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Something. So we're not going to have Lindley throwing the ball every place and that.
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That's exactly the point is he's going to get carries. The old line seems to have found some kind of magic. They're at home. So if you are in desperate need of a running back. Yep. Kerwin Williams. You can probably do worse than him. What are you shaking your head at over there?
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I just, just saw some. Some news come across on Jonathan Cooper.
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Oh, no. Are you serious? Yeah.
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With a wrist injury.
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Oh, scratch everything I just said something.
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Between a break and a sprain.
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Are you kidding me?
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No. That really sucks. Sorry to blow up your Kerwin Williams hype. One last name I want to mention is just Malcolm Floyd. If San Francisco's kind of given up on this season, you might see. And you know, San Diego has not.
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Maybe Malcolm Floyd with Malcolm Floyd is like that. The. The C list celebrity that an actor or actress that you don't know their name, but they just keep showing up in movies.
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Yeah.
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And you know.
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Yeah.
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You're like, wait, I know that.
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And the occasional commercial.
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And because no one talks about him.
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But now another guy that you don't. You're not really super excited about if you're starting. But you're, you know, he is what he is.
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He's Malcolm Floyd.
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He's Malcolm Floyd.
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Malcolm in the middle.
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So let's, let's get away from the sad Jonathan Cooper news for us Arizona fans and move it on down the road.
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Starts of the week.
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Yeah. Did pretty good last week.
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I will go on the record. I will throw myself to the feet for forgiveness from the public.
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Yeah.
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As I was on Bad Bro, I was on the Johnny Football bandwagon like a lot of other fantasy experts. Now. I was on it because I thought his floor was going to be raised from running, which he did nothing of that. But the. I hit pretty good on some other ones. Eric Decker, Peter Thomas, Panthers.
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Pierre Thomas looked real good. I think they figured. Figured some stuff out last night as a. Just to quickly rant on the Saints because they have a lot of fantasy relevant players. Colston Breeze, Graham Ingram, some people with Thomas, things like that. I stills. I just think they figured some things out about their offense last night and they got a little bit back to their roots of what they were with Darren Sprols hitting that screen game. Yeah. They just have not paid attention to it. And so I was really impressed. I felt like, you know, Brees was on his game. So if you have, I don't know, let's say Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham heading into your championship week, you should be in pretty good shape.
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Yeah. Yeah, Jimmy.
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So let's, let's get into the starts of the week. Who do you got here at the top of your list at quarterback?
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So I should. Before we get into these starts, because these are. I'm trying to find outliers. Yeah. People who I think have a chance for success if you are desperate.
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I would say that the nice thing about these is we were just talking about this today. These are also really good because we don't. We're not going to come out and say, okay, Aaron Rodgers is your start of the week. Ooh, yeah. You know, Peyton Manning.
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If I would have said that last week, I would have looked like an idiot.
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It's true. But the reality is we want to point out guys that are kind of at the middle tier of the kind of the scoring we think are going to have good weeks, which for. If you play in.
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That's how you win.
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Yeah. And if you play in FanDuel or DraftKings.
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Yeah.
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And the week to week, these are great bargains for your one week fantasy.
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Yeah, that's. That's a good way to bring it. We haven't talked very much daily in here and that's because we probably should.
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Yeah.
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When we play daily, we have to play through California. We have to play through our family members who live out of town.
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Yeah. They're like a handful of states in which you cannot play. I mean, you can play DraftKings. You just can't do it for money.
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You know that you can possibly play the free.
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Just play all the free games. So.
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And this is. Sorry to get off topic for just.
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Are we gonna get political?
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No, no, no. Not at all.
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That you were gonna make.
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No, no, no, no. I was gonna say that I'm kind of surprised that like ESPN the Mo, the main providers of fantasy aren't doing that. Don't have this option. As a, like, I would love for our league to have a separate. A separate thing where every week we do. We set our lineup with the, with the budget. I think that would be. That's an extra. Just because we all want more fantasy. That's what we want.
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We want more with the same people. Yeah. And getting to compete in other ways.
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And if we could start a salary league, maybe this is in here and I just don't know about it. So if it is someone hit Me up.
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If you want to give us a call, let us know.
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Matt. Yeah, I don't know if we'll get another email from him. I don't know. We normally steer him, but the back to my point, I think that would be really, really fun for people to do if they had that as an option to have as a separate way to run leagues. So anyways, my start of the week, I'm going with Kyle Orton. There's the Bills. They do have to travel there, but they're taking on Oakland, who are 22nd against the pass, or I should say quarterback scoring fantasy. Kyle Orton has shown that if he's up against a bad opponent, he can put up some points. He the Bill's defense is monstrous. Latavius Murray owners beware. That's a message directed toward my co host.
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Yeah, their defense puts their offense in a position to score points and Orton is capable, so I don't mind that start. And he's probably good in your daily leagues. I've got Alex Smith. We saw him still yet to have thrown a touchdown pass to a wide receiver. Two games left for that. But he threw one to Kelsey this past week. He threw into Nile Davis. And that team is still, I believe. I think they're in the playoff hunt.
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I think they're actually masters of their own domain too.
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Are they really?
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Yeah, I think they're at the top of the heat.
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Okay. Yeah, I knew it was. It was close. So Alex Smith going up against Pittsburgh. We know about their past defense. It's abysmal. And so, yeah, my running back.
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We were talking about him. I'm gonna give him one more try. I'm going with Toby. Toby.
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He must really appreciate it.
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Denard is out. Tennessee is ranked 30th against running backs. They did kind of slow down the. The jets last week, but just Toby looks healthier. And Tennessee is just awful. They are. They are just awful.
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Not a good team. And by the way, Kansas city sitting at eight and six. Pitt and Baltimore are both eight.
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Six. That's not met.
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Wait, what?
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They should have 15 total games.
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They are eight and six because there are seven. Oh, yeah.
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I was doing the math wrong, but.
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You might have heard that because they play Pittsburgh on. In the final week of the year, Kansas City, that could be for the wild card. So. And I'm guessing that Pittsburgh. So Pittsburgh and Baltimore have already played twice.
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Yeah, I believe that's correct.
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Sidetrack. Okay. My running back start of the week is Fred Jackson.
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Yeah.
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For Oakland.
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He got Oakland.
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Yeah, I mean, he looks kind of back and he. He takes a lot of screen passing.
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He got a lot of work.
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Passing game. Yeah, he got a lot of work. He's finally kind of feeling healthy. So I think that Fred Jackson is a really good bargain this week and.
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He may have fallen out the last couple weeks. I don't think so. But I believe he's still in the top five for passes caught by a running back.
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Yeah. And they use them that way all the time.
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My wide receiver, a little bit of a blast from the past. Vincent Jackson, they're finally getting him into the offense.
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He's for the. He plays for the Chargers.
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Which is ridiculous that it took the. The Buccaneers this long to figure out, hey, maybe we can throw to Vincent Jackson. That guy and Mike Evans. What both they're saying Green Bay is coming to town. Green Bay gives up points through the air and McCown is. Is able to get them the ball. He's. He's pretty good at saying, hey, there's a big guy. I'm going to throw the ball up and see if he can grab it.
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I like it. I've got Brandon lefell versus the jets as my start of the week this week. I went through a bunch of guys, but I think that this is actually going to be. I don't think there's anybody doubting New England's going to beat the jets up it on the lafell bandwagon, but I think lefell is going to do it this week. And I think that when you have these two teams match up, it's inter divisional, it's normally heated and I don't think that. I don't think Belichick's gonna take his foot off the gas for a little.
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Oh no, not Belichick.
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Not against. Not against these guys.
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For tight end. I am really scratching here for this one. This is.
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I didn't expect this.
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I'm going with Brent Selleck.
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Interesting.
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He. Part of it is the. Just the matchup of Washington is so bad against tight ends.
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They're 30th now they have two tight end.
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Yeah.
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So. But I like Selleck.
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I like Selleck more because he's gonna be on the. He's on the field a little bit more because he's the blocker and they got him a little bit more involved last week. I think he had four catches for. I don't remember the yardage off the top my head. But I. If I'm, you know, I'm reaching for a tight end who I think has the ability to put up a touchdown this week, but I like Brent Selleck this week.
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Okay. I'm gonna go with Martellus Bennett, and this is simply opportunity. He's the check down for Chicago.
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King. King D. Gaff is what we're calling him around the.
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Yeah. And Cutler is just going to be destroyed by that defensive front line of Detroit.
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I hope you stash the Detroit Lions.
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Yeah. If you stash the train D for your playoff game, you're going to be in great shape. So. And then I'm going to just jump in and give you my defense real quick. I'm going to grab the Giants defense. I'm going to stick them with streaming them. Yeah. Against St. Louis. The St. Louis offense has a cap on what they can score. I mean, yes, you got Sean Hill running or throwing the ball, and you've got Trey Mason and a team that just. They're just not explosive at all.
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The Giants are. They are sack masters right now.
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They had a huge week last week. I think eight sacks, something like that.
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Yeah. And the. I'm going with Green Bay against Tampa Bay. I went with them because they were the A defense who I like this week, and they were also only 30% owned. So I was trying to find a defense who I think almost everybody should be able to grab. I wasn't really sure where to put this in the show. I just wanted to run through defenses who I really like because we're at. We're at that time of the year where you got to make the right stream. If you don't. If you don't have a top tier like a Seahawks. Oh, man, I wish I had the Seahawks versus Ryan Lindley.
B
Oh, my goodness.
A
That's gonna be turnover. But defenses who I like, this is not necessarily the order, but these are just guys who I like. Buffalo Bills, the Eagles, the Lions, the Patriots, the Ravens and the packers are. That's six defenses who I really. I would feel comfortable starting any of those six in my championship game.
B
How do you feel about the Dolphins?
A
They. I like them. They're taking on Minnesota.
B
Is that right in Miami?
A
Oh, yeah.
B
They've been really bad as a defense over. They were like one of the top defenses in the league. First 11, 12 weeks of the season, but they put up three negative scores in our league in the last four.
A
And going into the half, they were. They were actually holding the Patriots in check. And then there was the. Whatever the. The backup running back dropped the wide open touchdown and it was just momentum really shifted. But they were whole. They were handling the Patriots for a good while. So I would think they should not have a problem handling Teddy Bridgewater at home.
B
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So hopefully those starts help you. They're in your daily leagues which anybody can be playing right now or in your championship game. And let's move it on.
A
Fantasy footballers versus the world. Oh, let's play.
B
Yeah. So this is. This is everybody's favorite section. Sorry, I just jumped in. I was so excited to introduce the section. You know, this is a section where we go in and we look at some start sit questions, some things that might apply to your fantasy league. And we also pull them up on fantasypros.com their expert rankings and we see which direction the experts lean and whether we match with their decisions. And then you go with whoever you want.
A
Yes.
B
But yeah, it's kind of fun. So the first question we have here is DeAndre Hopkins or Isaiah Croat. You cannot let that name go by without con like a.
A
And I grabbed this one because Hopkins will be going into the the matchup with the Ravens with their who fourth quarterback.
B
Yeah. I think both of these guys have those variables. Right.
A
And Crowell can Johnny Manziel be that bad again and limit what Crow can.
B
Do and both facing tough defenses.
A
And the. So Hopkins says the Ravens. The Ravens secondary is bad, but do they have a quarterback and get him the ball? So in this particular instance I think I would have the running back bias and go with the guy who I know the ball is actually going to get in his hands 10 or 15 times instead of I don't know if Thad Lewis can get.
B
Yeah, I agree with you. Do we know if Andre Johnson's playing?
A
I think what I've heard is he's going to be back. Yes.
B
Yeah. I'll lean Crowell's side. So let's see what fantasy pros the experts seem to think on this one. And it's really close. They actually have DeAndre Hopkins 53% to Crowell's 47%. So that's almost a pick them if obviously if you're in a PPR league Crowell does not catch a lot of passes. So you're gonna go Hopkins direction.
A
That's very interesting to me because the. That's an extreme jump off of the Crowell ship where yeah people were including myself. I still really like him.
B
But I think part of that's just facing a defense that's going to at home. Carolina is going to stack the box against the run.
A
Understandable.
B
So here's a good question. Justin Forsett who takes on Houston or Jeremy Hill, who faces one of the top 10 run defenses in the league, the Denver Broncos, for set had a bad week. Hill had a huge week. So do you chase the points?
A
Oh, man. If I'm in this particular instance, I think I go with four set. And that hurts me to say because I'm Jeremy Hill, number one guy. I think Hill's gonna get. What the. A big question is. You have the bungles. You know, they're probably going to screw it up where they. Because they had already figured out that if they ride Jeremy Hill that they win.
B
So why would they do that?
A
And then they're like, oh no, let's have Andy Dalton throw the ball 50 times and then lose.
B
And well, this could be really is going to depend too on how the Broncos come out. Are they going to come out running? Is it a low scoring game or, you know, it has playoff implications for both teams. So for me, I'm actually gonna lean the Jeremy hillside. Oh, I know.
A
Interesting.
B
Crazy. I think both guys are okay. Both guys have down downside more than upside this week, but because of just. Well, I think four set is. Oh, man, this is tough now that I'm. Now I'm starting to backtrack a little.
A
Bit because the Houston offense, I'm not expecting. Good. Although I don't know, this could be. This could be the Arian Foster domination where he.
B
Yeah, I'm gonna stick with Hill. All right, who do you.
A
I'm going with four set.
B
Okay. So eight. It's actually 80, 20 to four set. So most people are expecting Hill to struggle against timber. So I hope so. That's a biased statement. Julius Thomas or Jarvis Landry? This is a no brainer for me.
A
Really, it is. All right. Yeah. I want to hear what your no brainer is.
B
My no brainer is Jarvis Landry. He is a PPR machine right now. And jus. Thomas is as untrustworthy a player as you can put on the field.
A
Okay.
B
So that's. That's purely the only reason. I don't think Landry's gonna explode. And Thomas could catch a couple touchdowns, but he's been untrustworthy. And Landry's caught six or more balls for like eight straight weeks.
A
That's why I put this one in here. I really liked how it was a floor versus ceiling.
B
Totally agree. Julius Thomas has the higher ceiling.
A
And so what do you. I guess this would depend on your team. How is your team built? Who's your opponent?
B
That's worth bringing up as just the general fantasy thing. Here is one thing that players I don't think do enough of, or at least I didn't do when I was a. An early fantasy player is look at what you need from a position and don't just. Not even just before the week, but as the week progresses because you have the ability sometimes to see how your team is doing on Thursday night, on Sunday morning before you get Sunday afternoon, Sunday evening, Monday night games. So if you have the ability to make this decision. An example for this case would be, okay, I'm. I'm in a matchup and I need something safe. Jarvis Landry's who I want to start if I need to be safe. So if I get off to a good start, both these guys have a later game. Maybe I, maybe I score a bunch of points on Thursday night. Right. Well, then Landry's gonna be that start because I can't risk a zero or a low score. But if it's the other way around, if I get off to a slow start, I need to gain points back. Star Julius Thomas.
A
Yeah, that's very valid. So the question for this is I would. If it's. If I have to pick out of these two, I'm gonna go with Landry because I like. I think his floor is very high. Especially if you're in any kind of ppr, half ppr. His floor is going to be seven or eight points from a guy who's likely your flex. So I would just take the safety of that for my championship week.
B
Yeah, yeah. That's a tough decision. And the experts in a standard league have Julius Thomas at the top of that because of potential for touchdown. It's 59, 41. You move over into PPR and it turns into 75, 25. Landry. So read your league. Both guys are interesting and it just depends on what you need.
A
So the next one we're going to go with Charles Big Bird Johnson or nasty Nate Washington. Johnson is taking on the Dolphins and Washington has the Jaguars.
B
I'm. This is. I'm going to go with Nate Washington, but I still see this very similar to the last question. I think Charles Johnson has the higher ceiling and I think Nate Washington's much, much safer. Johnson is going up against a pretty good defense in the Dolphins in Miami, he has the higher potential to score to me, but I think Nate Washington is a better play.
A
I am going to lean with. I think I'm gonna go with Charles Johnson. I'm just gonna ride that heat.
B
You don't know. I just pulled it up. You don't know what this percentage is 50 50.
A
Wow.
B
An exact 5050 split.
A
So that's how you pull the start sit question.
B
There you go. And if you jump over into PPR league, Nate Washington is significantly higher.
A
Okay.
B
79 to 30 or 79, 21. But 50, 50 in a standard league. So well done. The last question we have here is a tight end question. And I already know the answer to this one for me too. It's Jordan Cameron or Michael Rivera. For me, it's Michael Rivera all the way to the bank.
A
The. The reason I would go through Rivera is because he is the target monster for Derek Carr. But how, how accurate is he going to be with that? Builds pass rush in his face.
B
Yeah, I don't really like either guy as a dependable option this week, but I lean Rivera's way just because of again, Cameron. Cameron's like Thomas coming off an injury, hasn't been very involved and I would lean.
A
I'll go Rivera. Just because I've lost so much faith in football. And Johnny, Johnny Football.
B
Johnny College football man. That's his nickname.
A
What do we got?
B
5,000, 545. Rivera. Rivera. So, yeah, pretty fun. So that, that wraps it up for Fantasy footballers versus the World. Some start sick questions. Pretty good. Pretty good questions there. Some tough decisions. So let's see. Let's turn it over to our listeners and answer some questions for them.
A
Mailbag. Mail bag. Yeah, if you want to be in the mailbag.
B
Yeah, these are, these are really the last set of listener questions we'll be answering because.
A
Well, for.
B
If we have a week 17.
A
Yeah, we have. We don't know what we're doing moving forward, but we might be talking. Well, there could be keeper questions.
B
Yeah, I think we'll probably. My guess is next week will kind of be our final show for the time being. And we'll, we'll make that a little bit of a prep for some terrible Week 17 leagues. But mostly look at keeper questions, look at dynasty, look at rookies, look at some guys to keep on your radar and maybe some ideas for fantasy leagues and stuff for the off season.
A
So if you want to get a hold of us, we are the fantasy footballersmail.com you can reach us on Facebook, facebook.com thefantasyfootballers and there will field your questions as usual, per the rules of the show. If you have a name that we think is funny, witty, punny, makes us giggle, you. You're gonna get moved up the list.
B
That's right. And we normally answer about five or six questions on every show. If we get a ton of questions in, we will. We might sneak a couple more in or just answer you via email ourselves or on Facebook. I also want to say that you can subscribe to us on itunes. That's kind of our locale for the podcast. You can also listen online at the fantasy footballers.com or subscribe on Stitcher. And we're excited. This has been a fun year.
A
Yeah. And please give us a five star review. It really helps our show. It helps us get some more eyes on the show.
B
We will give you $100 of fantasy advice if you give us a five star review. That's what. That's what this shows valued at per week. You get a hundred dollars. Yeah, that's a hundred dollars worth of advice. So.
A
All right, well, let's get to the questions.
B
Let's do it. This one comes in from Don't Screw me right after we say how valuable our show is. Yeah, the pressure's on, bro. Don't Screw me wants to know in a PPR league. Choose two. I'll let you answer this one. And choose two. Jeremy Hill, Marshawn lynch or Aryan Foster.
A
Foster is absolutely in.
B
Locked and loaded.
A
Yeah, he.
B
The other two are 40 carries coming. No, dude, that's it could.
A
That's not an exaggeration. That might happen. The other two are really hard. Marshawn lynch against Arizona. Really, really stout run defense. And then Jeremy Hill against Denver who have a. Not as equal as Arizona's run defense, but they have the ability to put up a bunch of points, screw up the game flow, get him out of the game. And because of that, I would go with Lynch. I know that he's going to get carries. If they get anywhere inside the five yard line. That's a 80% lynch touchdown. So just.
B
That's definitely the right call because lynch also does not have a Giovanni Bernard problem.
A
He has a Robert Turban problem lately.
B
I wouldn't call it a problem.
A
Well, you're not. You're not a Lynch owner. Watching these games very closely and getting furious every time lynch is off the field.
B
But I think if you're going into your title game, you can feel pretty good with lynch or. Yeah, lynch imposter.
A
So the next what? The next question is from Fut Bumble. That reminds me so much of Buck Futter. Yeah.
B
So wait, you don't get this one.
A
Oh, I get it.
B
Okay. I thought it was pretty.
A
Yeah, it's good.
B
I thought whoever wrote this is pretty funny.
A
Fuck Bumble.
B
Bumble says QB question.
A
Who should I Start Mark Sanchez or Matty Snapback Stafford.
B
Why do we not talk about Matthew Stafford on every show? Because he's way too fun to. To make fun of. And my goodness, at least his team's 10 and 4. When we make fun of Cutler, his team's abysmal. Who do you start this week?
A
So Sanchez.
B
We didn't.
A
We don't have the games pulled up here. The Sanchez takes on the Washington.
B
No, no. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stafford takes on Tampa.
A
Bears.
B
Bears. That's right. We're retarded. Mark Sanchez or Matt Stafford? I'm gonna go Matt Stafford.
A
You're gonna believe in. In Denver or not in December? Matt Stafford.
B
I'm gonna believe enough. Yeah, actually, man, that. That's a toss up, but I'm gonna go Matt Stafford.
A
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Sanchez. Okay. I have.
B
You're gonna go with Fat Bumble?
A
Yeah, I just. I have this incredible non. Belief in Stafford December.
B
The thing is, is they might not need to run or to throw the ball in that game against Chicago. So I. I'm gonna switch. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna come back on the Sanchez Washington.
A
Washington stinks. They actually have a strength of run defense, but their past defense is awful. So to me, Philadelphia is Macklin and. And Matthews, man. Matthews. The goose eggs. Yeah, that killed some people. I. So I like Sanchez out of this choice.
B
All right, our next one comes in from Johnny Bench. That could be the baseball player or that could be the quarterback for these two players.
A
The baseball player?
B
Yeah. Johnny Bench. You never heard of Johnny Bench?
A
No.
B
You don't know baseball?
A
No.
B
This must be like, you know me and Creed is me and baseball.
A
I'll tell you what I mean.
B
Johnny Bench is one of the most famous catchers in the history of major league.
A
When did he play?
B
40S, 50s?
A
What team?
B
Yankees. I'm gonna be right too. Hold on a sec.
A
He's going to Google.
B
Johnny Bench. Welcome to the official website of baseball's greatest catcher, Johnny Bench.
A
Joe Maurer disagrees.
B
He played for the Reds. I got Yogi Berra and him mixed up. Okay, for those listeners out there, I got the two old catchers mixed up a little bit. No big deal. And I was also way off in when he played. He played in the 60s to the 80s.
A
My knowledge of baseball is really relegated to.
B
That's why this name is funny is because Johnny Manziel becomes Johnny Bench becomes the pun on Johnny Bench the baseball player.
A
My baseball information is. Yeah. What is late 90s Minnesota Twins Kirby Puckett. Oh, yeah, but Kirby Puckett was actually earlier, But I'm talking later. 90s. When?
B
Why? Because you had a window of your life in which you.
A
I watched almost every Twins game. This was the Johannes Santana years.
B
Oh, really?
A
Oh, man, how weird. I was mad, but.
B
So you just jumped in and jumped out? Yeah, I sell a Twins fan.
A
I. No, I'm still a Twins fan. I just really dove into football.
B
Huh.
A
It just. It was skewed.
B
That's funny. Johan Santana, he burned brightly for a little while.
A
Monster.
B
Johnny Bench wants to know, so this, I think this is Johnny Manziel, Josh Gordon. Josh Gordon or Isaiah Crowell. Who would you start?
A
I'm going with the guy who's getting the ball. For sure.
B
I guess we had this question kind of earlier, didn't we? It was a running or Crowell versus Hopkins. So this is both on the same team. Sheesh. Manziel looks so bad. I'm. I'm gonna go Josh Gordon.
A
Really?
B
Yeah, I'm gonna go Gordon. I'm just gonna go talent on this one.
A
And Crowell is very talented running back.
B
Yeah, I. You know, this is. Neither is not an option. So I'm going to go Josh Gordon.
A
I'm taking. Taking the crop. The next question is Henny. For your thoughts.
B
Chad, Henny might get.
A
Start.
B
Get a start this week.
A
PPR question. You got Doug Martin against Green Bay, Steadman Bailey against the Giants, or Alan Hearns against the Titans.
B
In order this goes. Hearns, Bailey, Martin.
A
I completely agree. I. I am not. I'm not playing Doug Martin. He's not fooling me.
B
No, no, I. I think PPR really seals the deal on that one too. So this next one comes in from Jonathan Stewart from the Daily. From the Daily show, it's the host. The host with the most, John.
A
How you doing, John? Thanks for emailing. We love to Gideon.
B
We get like, we get one celebrity email a week every week. Yeah, that should be another requisite. Not just punny, not just funny, but celebrities. If celebrities email us, they go, we are. We play the favorites. If you've got a lot of money and you're rich.
A
Yeah.
B
And you're in movies and you drive fancy cars or wear snapback hats, you.
A
Know who else could get. Do you know who moved to the top of this list? Who would be a high ranking executive at Peter Piper? Because Pizza.
B
That's right. That's right. Wait, what was the name of that segment we were gonna do?
A
The Peter Piper Pizza PPR Pick of the Week.
B
The Peter Piper Pizza PPR Pick of the week. Oh, man.
A
So Peter Piper. Mr. Peter.
B
No, that's not his name.
A
Mr. Pizza.
B
Mr. Piper. Maybe. Maybe it's a Mrs. You just call Mr. Pizza. Yeah, Mr. Pizza. That's just like Mr. Carr, who owns the local dealership.
A
Look, all I want is some free Peter Piper pizza.
B
Really?
A
Well, not free. Well, it's a trade.
B
No, no, as you say, we. We don't need money for this. This specific sponsorship.
A
We would take pizza.
B
Catered podcasts.
A
Yeah, I'll take pizza.
B
Yeah. And then we'll bring you the Peter Piper PPR pick of the week. All right, so question from Jon Stewart is about Jon Stewart. He wants to know if he should start Lamar Miller versus the Vikings or the Daily Show Jon Stewart of Carolina against the Browns.
A
If. If D'Angelo's out again with his finger.
B
Right.
A
Which we still. We don't know.
B
Yeah, that's the big news right there.
A
If he's out, Johnny Stewart, I'm riding it again.
B
Yeah, why not? Lamar Miller ceiling seems so capped.
A
But if D'Angelo's in there, I'm. I'm going with Lamar Miller.
B
Yeah, I agree with you. So hopefully those questions helped. Do you got any sweet championship game advice? I mean, I know that you and I have been there three straight times.
A
Step one, make it to the championship game.
B
Yeah. You and I still need to figure out a bet.
A
We do.
B
If you have an idea for a bet for Mike and I, because we want something to be costly potentially in our head to head matchup this week. So if you. If you've got an idea, send it in.
A
We. We both are allegedly.
B
I tried to get Mike to shave his beard.
A
That's just not gonna happen.
B
No. How about half your beard? Like, left side.
A
We both are allegedly done creating children.
B
Right.
A
The loser becomes a eunuch.
B
Hmm, that seems a little. You just turned down a beard bet to go. Eunuch. I'm all in. So many things they could say. So let's move it on.
A
What if you were a eunuch and you lived in Munich?
B
You'd probably write into our podcast with that as your name. I'm the eunuch from Munich. I don't think eunuchs are quite as prevalent as you believe they are. From Game of Thrones.
A
Hey, according to Game of Thrones, there's one in five people.
B
According to Game of Thrones, they're the smartest and most clever because you don't.
A
Have to worry about certain things.
B
No, you don't. You're not distracted by.
A
You're the greatest Fantasy football player of all time.
B
Wait a minute. Are you really committed? How committed are you, Mike? What? Do you have to tell us something?
A
No.
B
So a reason you haven't been afraid of having a fourth child because you're super focused. Well, I didn't expect it to turn that direction.
A
Yeah.
B
Anything else? I mean, just the.
A
The fantasy footballersmail.com want to get a hold of us? Please subscribe to the podcast.
B
Let us know what you want to see next year too. We're gonna bring in, hopefully really bring a lot more to the table next year in terms of maybe a couple times a week.
A
Right. What I'm actually really hoping is to. I'm gonna put it on the air so we actually are accountable. I want to get. We want to get an actual home based site where we can do things like articles and rankings, general musings or whatever, blog posts. So it's not just the podcast. This the one or two times a week.
B
Maybe get a forum on there too for people to be able Right. Put their questions right on there. So. Sounds good to me.
A
Yeah, but that's about it, really. Good luck everyone. If you are still alive and you can taste the sweet, sweet nectar of.
B
Victory, then you can rejoice and.
A
Well, good luck. I'm sure you guys will hear all about who is the victor between the hitman and the holloway.
B
All right, there we go. Have a good one, guys.
A
See ya. Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode Summary: Week 15/16 Championship Edition
Introduction
In this special championship edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve into the pivotal Week 15/16 of the NFL season. Released on December 16, 2014, this episode offers a comprehensive analysis tailored for fantasy football enthusiasts aiming to clinch their leagues' titles. The hosts combine their extensive expertise with engaging banter to provide listeners with invaluable insights, strategic advice, and a glimpse into their own fantasy triumphs.
Hosts’ League Update
The episode opens with Andy and Mike celebrating their unique position in their fantasy league's championship showdown. Both entered the playoffs as the 5th and 6th seeds but remarkably face each other in the championship game for the third consecutive year.
Mike (00:30): "Consequent year in our main league. Mike and I are taking each other on in the championship game."
Andy (04:11): "It's tremendous for us because... our league mates are just so discouraged."
Their repeated success underscores their deep understanding of the game, setting the stage for the expert advice that follows.
NFL News and Injuries Impacting Fantasy
A significant portion of the podcast is dedicated to dissecting the latest NFL injuries and their implications for fantasy lineups heading into the championship week.
Quarterbacks and Running Backs:
Injuries to Key Players:
Andy (05:32): "If you're the commissioner of a league that has a championship game in week 17. Go home. Just stop."
The hosts emphasize the importance of monitoring injury reports meticulously to make informed decisions and safeguard championship aspirations.
Waiver Wire Recommendations
Navigating the waiver wire is crucial, especially with key players injured. The Fantasy Footballers highlight several promising free agents:
Joseph Randall: Touted as the top waiver wire pickup, especially for those with DeMarco Murray on their roster. Randall stands ready to step in and secure carries if Murray is sidelined.
Mike (11:43): "If he's. If you're a DeMarco Murray owner and you are listening to our podcast... you should have Randall on your bench."
Alfonso Smith and Lance Dunbar are also recommended for their potential to exploit favorable matchups and compensate for injured starters.
Other notable mentions include Charles Johnson, Lance Dunbar, and Toby Gerhart, each bringing unique advantages based on their team’s offensive dynamics and matchups.
Weekly Start/Sit Recommendations
The hosts provide strategic start/sit advice for key positions, focusing on maximizing points during the championship week:
Quarterbacks:
Running Backs:
Wide Receivers:
Tight Ends:
Defense:
Andy (21:25): "Jarvis Landry is a PPR machine... his floor is very high."
"Fantasy Footballers versus the World": Expert vs. Expert Picks
In a dynamic segment, Andy and Mike tackle start/sit scenarios posed by external questions, comparing their choices against expert consensus from FantasyPros.com.
DeAndre Hopkins vs. Isaiah Crowell:
Mike (31:46): "In this particular instance I think I would have the running back bias and go with the guy who I know the ball is actually going to get in his hands."
Justin Forsett vs. Jeremy Hill vs. Arian Foster:
Julius Thomas vs. Jarvis Landry:
Charles Johnson vs. Nate Washington:
Jordan Cameron vs. Michael Rivera:
The segment underscores the importance of aligning choices with league formats and personal team needs.
Listener Q&A (Mailbag)
Engaging with listeners, Andy and Mike address submitted questions, offering tailored advice:
Jeremy Hill vs. Marshawn Lynch vs. Arian Foster:
Mark Sanchez vs. Matt Stafford:
Josh Gordon vs. Isaiah Crowell:
Chad Henny vs. Doug Martin vs. Steadman Bailey vs. Alan Hearns:
This interactive segment reinforces the hosts’ commitment to listener engagement and practical advice.
Closing Remarks
As the episode wraps up, Andy and Mike share their aspirations for the future of the podcast, including potential enhancements like a dedicated website with articles, rankings, and forums. They encourage listeners to subscribe, leave five-star reviews, and engage with them on social platforms for continued support and feedback.
Mike (41:26): "We will give you $100 of fantasy advice if you give us a five-star review."
The hosts conclude with good wishes for the championship game, fostering a sense of community and camaraderie among fantasy football enthusiasts.
Notable Quotes
Andy (04:11): "It's the most satisfying second place of my life. Just because the rest of the league is so fed up with our crap."
Mike (05:32): "If you're a DeMarco Murray owner and you are listening to our podcast at all and you still didn't have Randall on your bench, shame on you."
Andy (11:43): "Joseph Randall... if DeMarco misses, so if you have him handcuffed, just be ready."
Mike (31:46): "In this particular instance I think I would have the running back bias and go with the guy who I know the ball is actually going to get in his hands."
Conclusion
This championship edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast serves as an essential guide for fantasy football managers navigating the critical Week 15/16. With expert analysis, strategic waiver wire recommendations, and interactive segments addressing listener queries, Andy Holloway and Mike Wright empower their audience to make informed decisions and vie for their league titles with confidence and style.