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Foreigners Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway and Mike Wright. Oh, yeah.
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What's up, everybody?
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What's going on? All the footballers out there, all the.
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Footballers across the nation, welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
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Week four is in the books.
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Yeah. Good week. By NATO.
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By NATO.
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A lot of big players on. Bye. So we had a lot, you know, you had to show your fantasy prowess. Yeah. Your prowess, your strength, your gumption this week and who you put in your lineup, who you left out of your lineup. Anything stand out for you this past week?
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The. There was a lot of big numbers from quarterbacks this week. A lot of big numbers.
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Quarterbacks we didn't expect, some quarterbacks that we didn't expect.
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Right. But I just think across the board, it was a very strong fantasy number.
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It's almost like it's becoming a passing league. Almost.
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We're almost there, right?
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No, that's. That's good. I think this is that time of year now when all the preseason hype about players starts to come either to fruition or you start to get worried about guys. Yeah, that's fair, you know, because those first couple weeks, you got excuses, you got reasons, and honestly, you can't evaluate. You know, if we were basing everything off week one, you know, Kevin Ogletree from last year would be the beast of the, of the wide receiver core. But, yeah, I mean, you can't judge on game one, but game four.
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Yeah, I think you're about. You're 25%.
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You're starting to get. You got to make some decisions about guys. And so for fantasy owners, it's got to be things like, do I buy low on this guy or is he going to be, you know, Eddie Lacy? Right, right. Eddie Lacy, top, you know, a top five prospect at running back.
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Top five overall pick.
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Right. Top five overall pick. What do you do with them now? Are you, Are you in the buy low camp?
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That is a very good question. I, I think it's probably safe to say that, that this is a. It is a very pivotal point of when like a season. I don't know why, maybe that's too. Speaking too much in hyperbole, but this is a season making decisions can happen. Right.
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Important time, too, because depending on what kind of league you're in, you're making. You're making moves based on. Are you the. At the top of the pack right now? Maybe that puts you in a position where you can buy low on some guys. Wait a little while. Are you at the bottom? Are you. You know, I wonder, I wonder what.
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The the numbers are like for redraft leagues. How many people have quit now?
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Oh, as far as like those, like the randomly assembled leagues that you have on.
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Not even just random, just. I mean, even family friend leagues. The. Well, a lot of people go. If they go own four one and three, they'll just quit.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's sad though. That makes. It is not my leagues. Those owners are gone before they can quit. That's what I. But yeah, let's. Let's take a look around the league.
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News and notes from around the league.
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Well, let's start with some injuries that might impact owners this week. What do you got?
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Let's see what would the most impact. I don't know what the most impactful one. I don't even want to talk about that.
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Yeah, you have. You have guys coming back. Certain guys are coming back. Like Jamal Charles came back and he came back. What'd you like from him? I mean, man, obviously he.
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He looked really good.
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He said, remember me? That was the number one pick.
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I mean, he looked. He looked just very good. There was a. That brief moment of panic when on the. I think his third score when he.
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Oh, yeah, when he went down, it was like, oh, he didn't have Nile Davis. You were probably freaking out.
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But then it was. It was just cramps. Yeah, luckily. But that was. Oh, yeah. But I mean, he just. He looked shifty and it would not surprise me. And I also think it would be beneficial if Reed would play them both and not just run Charles into the ground and let Davis have some carries. He did last night.
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Yeah, he had 17 last night. And, and that's a good point. I mean, sometimes you, you do that mix and match and the fantasy hunter doesn't like to see the guy off the field, but we also don't want to see him get hurt and we want to see guys run on, you know, six yards of carry and not two and a half.
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So I just think Charl with Charles, his home run ability keeping him a little bit more fresh during the game.
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I think fantasy owners can expect that too for these next few weeks at least seeing him eased back into that role.
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And there was an interview after the game where they were talking to him and he was. His ankle. He said his ankle was very sore. So it's. He's not over it yet. But you're starting.
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Sure looked really good. Yeah, that wasn't a high ankle sprain recovery game last night. Yeah, some other guys, you know, Teddy Bridgewater got his first start, looked really good. What. How Would you gauge his fantasy relevance, if any, right now? Because he's also questionable for this week, this Thursday.
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I am not. When he. Not only is that a. You don't. The injury is not good, but you have a rookie quarterback who has to figure out how to play short week, figure out to play the Green Bay packers in two days.
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Right.
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So it's just. That's a very tough situation, I think for him. But for the rest of the year, I, I think his is not bad. Especially I mean he's with that when he, when he ran, I think was a 15 or 20 yard score, something like that. I mean it looked good.
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Yeah, he looked really good in the pocket and mobile.
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He's a lot more mobile, I think than people. Then we. We didn't really talk about him.
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My concern is what he's got right now, which is little nicks and bruises because he's not a big guy. He's not Cam Newton.
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He is a little frail.
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Felt. Yeah. And so Bridgewater is questionable this week. Got to keep an eye on some other guys.
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That Vernon Davis is having back spasms. That's not good.
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No, he's questionable right now. Keep your eye on him. If you're relying on him, that's a tough thing to do right now. Another tight end that's tough to rely on is whoever's starting for Washington. Man, Niles Paul.
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That Niles Paul hit was just brutal. Brutal.
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He got lit up. Concussion. Not practicing today. So right now, Logan Paulson is the starting tight end for the Washington Redskins, which you might have to pay attention to because of Kirk Cousins propensity to throw tight. Yeah, he likes throwing those underneath.
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But the, the play in the Giants game, which the whole game was a debacle of. Of. Paulson had a catch and I don't remember who the defender was, but he literally just took the ball out of Paulson's hands.
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Yeah. While he was standing there.
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He just.
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That should not happen.
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It was like a gift exchange where Paulson was. Here you go. Yeah. How do you let someone just take it from your hand? It didn't get punched out. He just grabbed the ball and said, I'm stronger than you and I'm going to take the ball.
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Yeah. That was embarrassing.
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Give me your milk money. Logan Paulson is.
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Are there any running backs left in Carolina? So what's the situation there? What should fantasy owners be looking for at the running back position in Carolina?
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You should not. You should not be looking there.
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So who's the next man up? Who's Darren Greaves. Right, Greaves.
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And then they just picked up off the street. My main man, Chris, as we call him. Chris Oingo Boingo. Yeah.
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I don't want to pronounce that name again. I thought he was out of the league.
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Oh, we call him Oingo Boingo. It's all good to go.
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So he's. Yeah, that's a nasty situation. I. That's one of those backfields where you looked at it and you're like, oh, Tolbert and. And Jstu and D. Will and Whitaker and all four are down. So stay away from that. Stay away from that offense in general.
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Yeah, they look. Greg Olson. Keep Greg Olson in your lineups. I still like it, I guess.
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Yeah.
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The good news is that he can catch touchdowns from both Cam and Derek. Bullet Arm Anderson.
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Oh, right, right. Well, there's not many pass catchers to go around in Carolina, and they got. They got a home game this week against the Bears, but. Yeah, tough sledding matchup, too. Tough sledding. When you have a quarterback who is known for his mobility and getting out of the pocket and keeping people honest with the run, that just can't do it right now. Other than that. Arian Foster's day to day. Ben Tate's practicing today. If you are the Terrence west or Isaiah Crowell owner, be expecting.
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Crowell.
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Crowell.
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Have we.
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Yeah, you're right. It's Crowell.
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Crowell the Crow. I heard they're calling him the Crow up in Cleveland. I like it, man. The Crow.
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Undrafted free agent. He's looked good.
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He has looked good. His. You know what looks good? His physique.
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He's a. What you saying?
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I have noticed his physique.
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Of course you have. He's got. He's got the Marshawn lynch about him, doesn't he?
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He looks like a running back.
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Yeah, he's strong. Keep your eye on Tate coming back, though, because they said he will start if he. If he practices. He will start. We've got our own little bet about.
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How he will get two carries and he will break.
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Wow. He does break. Other guys that stood out this week. I got a couple guys on my list.
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Who you got?
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Steve Smith.
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Yeah.
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Senior.
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Yes. Oh. Must qualify.
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He is just really fun to watch.
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Yeah.
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You. You keep giving him no credit because of this.
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No, no, I. This week's explosion where he has an outlier stat line from this week with a fluke.
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You have to be good enough to get an outlier.
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The. On his second touchdown, the. The play where Joe Flacco I can't remember if it was a botched snapper, if he fell down, but he's about to get hit. Flacco, and he doesn't even look. He just throws the ball to Steve Smith in the end zone.
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He just trusts him.
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Yeah, he's like, hey, save me, Steve Smith. And Steve said, dude can still play, no problem.
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Joe Flacco, yeah, he's a. I mean, to me, he's a wide receiver right on the 2:1 line. Now. I think we've seen enough through 4. He's a guy that you can make a decision on here. Nobody drafted him to be a wide receiver. One Wide RECEIVER two and he's performing like it week to week. And the trust is only building when you have games like this. Fluker, not on the long touchdown. He still had a big game. He's still been in the top 10 wide receivers in fantasy so far this season. And I think you have to eventually take the step and say he's here to stay with Flacco because Flacco trusts him. I saw them. I saw Flacco go to him four consecutive times inside the red zone. That's the kind of trust that that offense has. And you see them succeeding by trusting him. So big week.
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The only thing that can stop Steve Smith at this point is would be a Sunday night or Monday night primetime game, because he will at that. By that point, he's already hit the buffet and he's in bed 35 and kicking.
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Unbelievable.
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I heard he's upset that his AARP card hasn't showed up yet.
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Exactly. Him and Fred Jackson. Right. Other guys that we already talked to all about. Jamal Charles. Antonio Brown continues to be an absolute monster consistency. Monster. What's the stat on him? 20 straight games with five catches. Five catches and 50 or more yards. Unbelievable. That's what you want in a fantasy wide receiver. Right. We don't want that desean Jackson boomer bust. We want Antonio Brown.
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You want boom non stop.
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Yeah, Just boom boom. Just boom.
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Nick Novak was boom boom. It's now Boom Boom Brown.
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Well, and even in the past couple years, I mean, don't get me wrong, Calvin Johnson is Calvin Johnson in the fantasy world. But in the past couple years, we've had these little injuries where they're willing to use him as a decoy.
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Yeah.
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Like, yeah, Antonio Brown is consistent in terms of health and he's consistent in terms of production.
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He's sneaky. Good.
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And because, yeah, he doesn't get big wide receiver credit.
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No, he doesn't.
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Because he's not a big wide receiver. Yeah, he's like Steve Smith.
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His. His play style fits so perfectly with Big Ben's ability to keep a play alive. His ability and willingness to keep a play alive.
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Yeah.
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And so Brown's going to get open. That's just what he will do. And I mean well.
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And he's first and second, third read for Big Ben right now.
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You can't imagine the touchdowns are going to keep up, but they are very nice while they are coming.
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I think he's on pace for 20 right now. Yeah, but. But still that offense is able to move the ball and Antonio Brown is continuing to. I think the.
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The newly trimmed up Le'Veon Bell. The Leviathan. Leviathan Brown. Or wait, is that you?
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Did you give him that name?
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I just did. Can we get that going? Hashtag Leviathan. He hit the run game, I think is really helping Brown to be even more than he was last year.
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Absolutely. And then Andrew Luck, DeMarco Murray, they continued on their ascent. They're both number one right now.
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Just. Oh man, he is a vulture of.
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Just picking on the week, team wise.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. I mean they, they just are a pass. I think they've just kind of finally said, which is, oh, Andrew Luck's our.
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Best player, which is what we've been waiting for of last year.
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Right.
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Why are we not unleashing Andrew Luck on the world?
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Yep.
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And they are. And he is just running it up.
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What I like about him is he. He's kind of like Breeze in the fact that, you know, The Colts, they're 2 and 2. They can have a bad game, a bad half, a bad three quarters. And Andrew Luck can still give you a fantasy performance in those last three or four drives.
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Right.
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Of. He's got that comeback gene in him and you've seen that so far this year, especially early when they were. I think they played Denver.
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He also has the Buffalo Bill voice gene.
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Yeah. More attractive on the field than off. Let's go to everyone's favorite segment.
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Pooped in his big boy pants.
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Oh, let's introduce this one again, huh?
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So for the new listeners. Pooped his big boy pants. We take a look at players who are expected to produce. They are starters and sometimes studs. And then they get on the field, they do not produce.
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They poop their big boy pants. That's right. So this week we've got big names or at least one really big name.
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Yeah.
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Shady.
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Can we hit the button?
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Wait, the panic alarm. Are you. Are you that worried about Shady? McCoy.
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Man, I. I flip hourly on. Am I. Am I buying this guy low or is he. There's something really wrong. There were reports in the beginning of the year. It was really, really short, so you may have missed it, but just a report that Shady's dealing with turf toe and then it got downgraded. Oh, it's just minor turf toe to. Oh, there's nothing wrong. And I mean after this is.
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These weeks fantasy owners paid for no shady McCoy.
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His entire game is quickness and agility.
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So you think you see something that lends you to these. These performances back to back. You don't think it's all offensive line that I. You think a little bit.
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I'm very conflicted because the line is so bad. Lane Ped Johnson's going to be back, right? This week. It helps. I don't know if it fixes everything.
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You know, what was concerning for me in that regard was late in that 49er game having drives or series with him off the field and sprawls in the backfield.
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And that's. That's what I'm saying. Is something going on with the toe?
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Yeah, I mean just whether he's. Whether he's healthy and Sprawls is getting a rotation. That's just worrisome. I guess so. So if it's you right now, because this is what matters is there's a fantasy owner out there that has Lashawn McCoy on the roster. You holding? You holding? Course I'm. Because you're not gonna get value for him the way you would. I mean, maybe now you'll get more than you would, but I might sell.
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For like 90 cents on the dollar. Okay, but that's as about. As.
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Because of the signals that are out there right now.
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Right?
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The warning signs.
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So if people are the, the. Some of the trades that were posted. Just awful trades. I'm blanking now.
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What they were people looking to get Shady trying to pick up Shady.
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But trades that happened.
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Oh, okay.
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And just awful, awful trades of people giving him away for free. And you even.
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You can't do that.
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He could. He could be hurt and be garbage the rest of you, but you still can't trade him for.
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For nothing. For nothing. Yeah, but he's. He's worrisome. Those two wide receivers in Washington did not perform this week. They both Their big boy pants.
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That was very.
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That was hard on you.
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That was. Yeah.
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That was really hard on you. Did you.
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I had. In my really important league. I watched as I started captain Kirk Cousins versus Captain Kirk Cousins, the newly picked up Eli Manning. And I got to watch that happen to me where I lost my whole fantasy week on Thursday night. And that is just soul crushing.
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You were absolutely in love with Kirk Cousins and that must have just been heartbreaking.
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Yeah. In the. And as far as I'm not. Have. I have not completely bailed off him. I still. I think he'll still have good games. But he. It was. It was coming out that he stares down his receivers.
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Well, it snowballed.
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Thinking back on. It was the. The sack fumble. That's right at the beginning of the game. And I think he does not have the. I guess you've mental toughness. Call it something else, but whatever. As soon as he gets rattled, he's done. Where?
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Well, right now that's definitely the case. And it was a. I wouldn't, you know, the primetime game.
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Yeah, there's that too.
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You know, the focus is on him. I think the one player, the one person who's really happy with performance was Robert Griffin iii. Because all the talk can just simmer down now because I think RG3 is probably coming back. So not that he'll perform, but he'll probably be coming back. They just invested too much in him. And so Kirk Cousins is on the on the bus list this week. Now, not that he's got big boy pants to poop yet, but some other guys. Here's another one.
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Toddler paints.
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Oh my goodness. Tom Brady. Dude, is Tom Brady. Let me ask you legitimately, is Tom Brady hitting the waiver wire in leagues?
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Oh, yeah. Absolutely is. Yes. I mean there's.
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This is. This is not what I expected from that offense because they always find a way and right now they are not finding a way.
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And I will go at this moment, toot toot. Because this is really.
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It is what you talked about.
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I expected this from Tom Brady. I just. They are their offense.
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How much of it is Tom Brady? How much of it is offensive line? How much of it is no weapons? I mean Danny Mandola has caught a pass in two weeks.
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It's a goulash of everyone's fault where Tom Brady is not good enough anymore to just get it done with crap.
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He did it for a long time and.
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And his line stinks there. I don't know why Bill.
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I think Logan Mankins maybe losing him.
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That was not why we.
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Yeah. You're seeing a major effect on.
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That's like when they traded Seymour.
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Yeah. A couple years.
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You just. Why I know you. You don't want to have you'd rather.
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Smart for his own.
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You'd rather trade a guy a year too soon than too late. But he just, I don't know. Belichick is.
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Yeah.
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Made some strange choices.
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Just so fantasy wise. You're done with Brady.
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I can think of so many quarterbacks.
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That you start already. Yeah, yeah. I think right now if you have another guy, you got to put him out there. Whether it's the Andy Daltons. What about Joe Flacco?
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Absolutely. I'd rather play Joe Flacco. Carson Palmer, if he ever plays.
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Oh, if he ever plays again.
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I mean that's a whole different story because I'm very high on Palmer.
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If he would, if he played that.
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Off, if he ever came back.
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Absolutely. So let's, I think we should probably move on here and put me in coach. Let's talk some waiver wire.
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All right.
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This is a very sparse waiver wire week so we.
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Oh we completely neglected to mention for the new listeners. Andy and myself are. We're correspondent writers for fantasypros.com that's right. So we have grabbed the waiver wire list from fantasy pros.
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Fantasy Pros is a great resource for your fantasy football needs. They have an abundance of statistics, accumulation of expert rankings. If you don't have yourself set up because they'll import your league, they'll give you statistics, they'll give you information. If you're not set up there, you need to do that. That's a prerequisite for your fantasy league in my opinion.
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Yes. If you know about fantasy pros and your, and your team does not, you have a great advantage because they.
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Your league. You're saying if they're league. Yes.
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I mean they take just countless experts. So it's, it's not just. You're buying one person's opinion. You're getting an average and a consensus pick.
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Yeah. You're not going to fly off the rails and you're not, you're not going on your own. You're. You're taking a look at what the consensus rankings are for experts all over the the country.
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I'll tell you who, who's who you should pick up on your waiver wire.
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Well, yeah, that's we're looking at right now.
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The system is very integrated with your league once you import. But however. So the, we took their, their, their waiver wireless, their hot commodity list.
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Yep.
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And so we'll just grab a couple names off of it.
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But number one, big exciting name at number one.
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Yeah.
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He might be the only significant waiver wire name this week.
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It's a little thin this week.
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Yeah, it's thin. But Jerick McKinnon. Yeah, he showed up Adrian Peterson's replacement. Right. He's the same, isn't he? The exact same.
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Oh, but the. What I have held on to when I.
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You're pretty tied into Minnesota too. Right. So you know McKinnon a little more than most.
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Well, he's just. His athletic freakishness is really off the charts.
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I read something that him and Calvin are the two highest scores ever when they do the athletic metric.
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Right.
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They have the two highest in terms of just pure athletic freak talent.
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And so I've. I held with. I agreed with the. The people were saying that if you need a running back right now, grab if you want. If you have a stash spot, you take McKinnon. And the reason I believe that is why. I mean, they drafted him. He's a freakish athletic talent. But if Minnesota is legitimately planning to move forward, like these new reports without Adrian Peterson, which I'm still not completely buying those reports.
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Right.
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But if they are, why would they keep playing Asiata? He. He is who he is in.
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Right, Right. And he's a plotter. Right?
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Right. I mean he.
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Is this a Gio, Bernard, Ben Jarvis, Green Ellis situation from last year or could it become that?
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Yeah, I guess.
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Is that best case scenario for McKinnon? What's best case scenario? Best case? Every down.
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No.
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Okay.
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No, best case though is 50. 50, I think.
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Well, that's about what we saw this past week, I think.
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Was it when they.
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42. But I mean they had a lead and they were running the ball. I mean Teddy Bridgewater changed that offense a little bit, but so I, I just.
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I don't think they'll give it to him completely. But there's no reason in Minnesota for you not to see what you have in McKinnon. And now I will and I will say this. And this is my little Adrian Peterson piece of the. The show.
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Sure.
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The worst thing that can happen to McKinnon and Asiata is the Vikings winning.
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Because they'll be incentivized to.
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Because let's.
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Peterson, let's.
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Let's. We don't. And for all Peterson owners, don't drop him. Or I mean maybe if you trade him and you can get something. But don't drop him until he has his case, whatever it is that. It's coming up on October 8th, so we should have more news by then, but timeline wise. Yeah, but let's say he. He plea deals or something. He gets six games at the most from the NFL, and the Vikings are winning. Adrian Peterson's coming back.
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Yeah.
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I mean, as a. As a franchise use, you have to do that. But losing, then you don't probably back.
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Well, because he's got a huge cap number next year, too.
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Yeah.
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So if he's mired. If they're losing, they're rebuilding, they're mired in this legal battle, they might move on sooner rather than later because he's not coming back for that cab number no matter what.
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I don't think maybe.
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Yeah. So stay tuned. But Right now, Jerick McKinnon is the number one waiver wire pickup. So if he's available in your league, grab him, stash him. He might not be a guy you start this week, but he's a guy that you can. You know, he's got explosive talent. You know what he reminds me a little bit of is when Jamal Charles broke out at the back half of the year a few years ago with three or four long runs. McKinnon's got the kind of.
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Yeah. I mean, he's big playability. When he goes. He is. He is strong.
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Yeah. So who's in? Let's go through a few more guys here.
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Crowell, the Crow, my man.
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Okay. Yeah. You like.
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I am big on. I am big on cruel. The.
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But he's. What. What is the fantasy relevance of picking him up right now?
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He. He's not a guy you're starting. He's more of a.
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He's probably available in most leagues. He probably High. High. High percentage of leagues.
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The. The. The news coming out over the bye week, which if you're not familiar with, with.
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He's owned in 5% of leagues right now, by the way.
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But teams do. Teams make a lot of changes during the bye week. Would you agree with me?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because we all. We all thought that the kind of. The. The pivotal Hoyer, Johnny football moment was the bye week, that if Hoyer was struggling, that's when the change would happen.
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Just gives teams an opportunity.
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Teams reevaluate and they make some changes. Well, over the bye week for Cleveland, it was coming out that Crowell was running ahead of Terrence West.
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Right.
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And Ben Tate, he fragile. He can't stay healthy for anything. So the. In. Crowell is averaging. He's averaging over five yards of carry. I think the stat, which, it's ridiculous because his carries are so low, but he's averaging a touchdown every nine carries.
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Yeah, he was 11 for 55 the last game he played, but he Just he touchdown.
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He. He produces when you give him the ball. And if he has really passed Terrence west, you're looking at. You're looking at a potential high RB2. If Tate goes down.
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Sure. And there's with some upside that we haven't seen because we don't know. We haven't seen him in that role yet.
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And let us not forget. So the coach speak is that Ben Tate's going to be the starter when they come back. This is the same coach who was going to give C.J. spiller the ball last year so much. He was going to give him the ball until he threw up and then he gave him the ball like eight times a game.
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Yeah, I think. I think Cruel fits in that stash category right now, like you said. And he has upside and he's got potential. He's a young guy, so I like him.
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If you have a spot, I would pick him up.
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Some other names out there for those coming out of the buy. Marvin Jones is actually coming back to Cincinnati this week. Yeah, I think he's not necessarily a you have to pick him up guy, but that offense is humming and you've had some problems with A.J. green, injury foot, things like that. So Marvin Jones is a guy that put up big touchdown numbers last year.
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Yeah, I think it's going to take a little bit for him to get.
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Going, but yeah, I agree. What is Eddie Royal?
A
He did the same thing last year.
B
I know September touchdowns. Eddie Royal. Is he somebody that you got to pick up and just give him the shot because that offense is performing, or is he just like you ride that slash in the pan, you ride the.
A
Wave until it crashes at the beach?
B
I was so happy I saw my opponent in one of my leagues this week throw Eddie Royal out there because Welker was on a bye. I'm like, oh, this is it. I'm set. And then these bombs start dropping. I was just so upset. This fantasy football, right? Like you think you've got the easy matchup and then a guy like Eddie Royal comes out of the woodwork again. That's four touchdowns in two weeks.
A
Tell me your thoughts on Jerrius Wright, Minnesota Vikings wide receiver.
B
Well, they sure force fed him this week and the fact that he has chemistry with Teddy Bridgewater, you know, is huge. The question is, is. Is are you going to get enough snaps, snaps going forward? Is it the Corderell, Patterson, Jennings, are they going to throw the ball enough going forward? I don't think he's a. To me, he's not a Anything more than a wide receiver. Four or five right now.
A
Okay. In this, he goes back to my theory of backup quarterbacks. Love backup wide receivers.
B
Right. We just talked about this and he.
A
Jarius Wright was a guy who I was not like I'm drafting this guy really high. But I had my eye on him last year as a guy and it was even Adrian Peterson at times. I. I heard him talking up. Right. So I thought, okay, well, let's keep an eye on this guy. Nothing really happened. But he is.
B
He's talented.
A
He is one of those sneaky guys that you. I would not pick him up this week, but you really should monitor him.
B
Yeah. A couple other names. A name that keeps popping up in the headlines every week. Devin Hester.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, he just keeps performing. That was a heck of a touchdown run after the catch. And with the propensity for Roddy White Julio Jones to get hurt. He's got to be on your radar. You've got. Harry Douglas is banged up, so you can't ignore him. He gets special teams work and he's made an impact.
A
And do you have any thoughts on the hyphenated Austin?
B
I've got big thoughts on him. Yeah.
A
Okay. I did me here. Let me see if I.
B
Here's what they start with. Hundred percent of snaps. That's what he played this last week.
A
You gotta like I love volume.
B
Like 100% of snaps.
A
I love volume and I love targets.
B
Timothy Wright is gone safari and Jenkins is getting healthy. And Mac and Glennon's in the. In the backfield throwing the ball.
A
And they had an injury last week.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
And so Mr. Evans.
B
Yeah. Evans is out for two to three weeks at least, I believe. Is that the report you heard?
A
Yeah. Two to three and their buys.
B
Keep your eyes on Safari and Jenkins.
A
Yeah.
B
That's one of those names that you have to. 100% of snaps. You don't get that. If you're looking to pick up the wider or the tight end out of Green Bay, you're fighting the snap count among three different guys over there, whether it's Bostic and Richards and who's the name I'm forgetting?
A
Corliss.
B
Corliss. You know, you'd. Some of these guys are good, but they're not out there all the time. And so keep your eyes faring. Jenkins, I'm with you. If you like him.
A
I like him a lot.
B
And this is bye weeks for tight ends. I mean, you're gonna need a guy. He is come in and give you a week.
A
He is a rookie. So you have that it takes. I don't. Tight ends aren't usually the guys who get in the system and then they just flourish. But he's got. His measurables are he is a monster of a human being. He is humongous. Like 65250 plus or something like that.
B
Very bad boy.
A
Very athletic.
B
He.
A
He's got three names.
B
It has to be good. Right? Look at what happened to Steve Smith when he added senior to the back of it. Fantasy explosion.
A
My mind just exploded.
B
Somebody should be signing Green Ellis immediately. Oh, he's got four. That's the problem. No.
A
Yo.
B
The law firm dad.
A
Yeah. So. But keep your eye on Safari and Jenkins. We like him.
B
Well, we should probably move on from the waiver wire. Although I do want to say one quick thing and I know you're going to agree with me on this. Another couple things to think about with waiver wire this week is if you are an owner of one of those running backs getting so many carries. The DeMarco Murray's, the Rashad Jennings. This is time to think about handcuffing those guys.
A
You.
B
If you don't want to be locked into having to pick up Alfred Blue hoping he gets something in, you know, Darren Reeves of Carolina. You want to be able to just move in the Joseph Randall in place of demarco Murray if you have to. Yeah. You don't want him to get hurt, but you got to protect yourself.
A
Murray is on pace for over 400 carries.
B
Yeah. And he's a historically healthy man. Right.
A
Murray's been hurt every year.
B
Yeah.
A
And maybe he doesn't ever get hurt, but with that kind of a volume, you better. You better be prepared.
B
Yep, I agree. And with Rashad Jennings, Andre Williams Jennings.
A
Also admit he's gonna feed the ball.
B
Yeah. So keep an eye. I mean, even. Even if you're, you know, some of these other guys. Le'Veon Bell, if you have a chance to get Legarette Blunt, protect yourself.
A
Oh, yeah. And Bell or Blunt has looked good. These aren't just garbage.
B
Exactly.
A
You have a body. I mean, these are guys when they.
B
Go in Nile Davis, they'll be able to come in and they'll perform at a high level and. And running backs are too premium in this league. So let's move on here.
A
Start of the week.
B
All right. Let's go through and get starts of the week for both of us at every position here. Who is your start of the week at the quarterback position for week five this week?
A
I like my man Russell.
B
Russell Wilson. Steady. Steady Eddie.
A
He's coming off the bye. He has very. His. His pass attempts are not something you want to see from your fantasy quarterback.
B
Terms of quantity.
A
Yeah, but he's just so productive. Yeah, with he. It's. He's everything he does. He just. He reads. Is a incredibly intelligent and how do you mess up a word when you're saying how smart.
B
Yeah, somebody is a smart one.
A
You sound like.
B
Like an idiot. So if you're.
A
He's a telemachine.
B
Try that again. Try that again, buddy. He's fantasy correspondent analysis alert.
A
He's wicked smart.
B
He's wicked smart.
A
So we're. Dude, I cannot find. I can't find him on here. Who are they playing? Oh, they're playing the Washington team.
B
Yeah, the Washington team.
A
Yeah.
B
Is that what you call them now after South Parker?
A
No, but I went. I was just trying to be nice. Yeah, but they are playing Washington on Monday night off of a bye week.
B
Nice.
A
We saw what happened to Washington the last Thursday.
B
Yeah, we did.
A
He. Russell Wilson's going to have a big game.
B
Russell Wilson is the kind of quarterback who you consistently can start at fantasy. And he'll get the short field. You know, their defense will turn the ball over. They'll get the ball at the 20 and he'll get a quick touchdown.
A
And he runs.
B
Yeah, and he runs the ball. And he's intellimagint intelligent, super smart, smartish guy. My start of the week at quarterback is Big Ben Roethlisberger. He's got Jacksonville this week, the dumpster fire that is Jacksonville. So I like Big Ben. I like. I like what they're putting together. I like that he gets yards out of Le'Veon Bell and I like that he has. He's got weapons. I like my tight end. Start of the week I'm gonna. I'm gonna just cheat. Sure is connected. Heath Miller versus Jacksonville as well. So I like that offense this week. Other guys I like at the quarterback position if you're looking around for somebody. I got Russell Wilson on my list too.
A
If you're looking around.
B
Well, if you're making a decision. So I should say that like I.
A
Really like that Drew Brees guy. Yeah, yeah, pick him up.
B
I think Rivers will be big this week and I think Breeze will be big this week, especially in a bounce back game for New Orleans. So what about your running back start?
A
Well, well, you did your tight end, so I'll do mine real quick. And we weren't sure if this was cheating.
B
This is not a Start. I mean, a guy who starts every week doesn't count as a start of the week.
A
He's.
B
Yeah, Julius Thomas.
A
Here's the reasoning.
B
It's so good that you'd start him twice. Is that what it is? Could you put him in twice?
A
I'm hearing big things about this Julius Thomas kid. You might want to see an up and run. Look around, see if you can pick him up. But he's playing Arizona. He's going to score three touchdowns.
B
Arizona is not good against the tight end. And we know that firsthand.
A
All right, so.
B
All right. So running back.
A
And these guys are much smarter.
B
Heath Miller. Yeah, I like him this week. And you know Logan Paulson if you have to.
A
Logan, milk money.
B
Yeah, milk money.
A
Paulson, running back. I really like Rashad Jennings this week he is. They're playing the Falcons. The Giants are playing the Falcons. The Falcons defense is not good. They. The Tampa Bay game was just a complete anomaly. Why can't I talk today? Extra ends are just coming out of my mouth.
B
It's a complete.
A
Man. So.
B
Say that again. You got Rashad Jennings.
A
I got. I got Rashad Jennings.
B
Yeah, you take over. My start is Geo big Gio Bernard versus New England. They look like a sieve. Last night they were just an absolutely hashed ripped apart by the combo of Nile Davis and Jamal Charles. I just don't know if that defense is going to be able to survive the 12 Jeremy Hill geo combo.
A
Here's what I will say the about geo in the situation, the what I'm hoping for because I've been predicting it all year by week. Magic bye week. The teams reevaluate. We already talked about this. I have a hunch, a gut hunch that this is where Jeremy Hill is going to start to get a little bit more involved.
B
I think both of them are very good starts this week.
A
So that's good because I'm going to.
B
Have to start Jeremy Hill in one of your leagues. Yeah. So at the wide receiver position, my guy is Brian Quick. If you're looking for a sneaky little Snart. Snart. Now you can't talk if you're looking for a sneaky start. Oh, man.
A
Brian Quick, the guy from the Thundercats, right? Yeah. Your turn.
B
Keenan. Keenan.
A
Oh, yeah, my wide receiver.
B
I wanted to start him, but you.
A
Start of the week is Keenan Allen. Not that you weren't gonna start him, but he. He started so poorly and then he came out last week.
B
Snart, Snart, snart. He's a good Snart. Keenan Allen.
A
Snartan Allen. So the jets, we all know the jets are just. They're really nasty up front. No one can run. And here comes Donald Brown. Oh, man, can you imagine Donald Brown? One yard per carry.
B
He's gonna find a way to run for less. I know that there was.
A
There was a breaking news blurb this morning from Donald Brown.
B
From Donald himself. This was the Donald Brown.
A
Donald Brown. He came out and he admitted he needs to start running better.
B
Is this a career arc or a. Yeah, it's.
A
To which he got paid.
B
After that, man, the, The.
A
The pizza boy could carry.
B
If I could snarp somebody different, I would snort somebody other than. Than Donald Brown.
A
So that. My point is Keenan Allen and Philip Rivers are going to.
B
Oh, yeah, they're gonna be.
A
They're have a fantasy feast.
B
Some streaming defenses, some starts this week that you like on the defensive side.
A
I really like the Chargers. They're probably picked up in your league.
B
They've been really good this year. Consistent.
A
And if there was a smart owner because they saw the. The string of really good games for the Chargers. But my, My other sneaky play would be the Green Bay packers, especially if. If Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah.
B
It's possible that Christian Ponder is back in the backfield. Yep. No, that's. That's a sneaky play. I like that. I. I'm staying with Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh's available, you want to play him against Jacksonville this week. I also, I also like what I saw from the 49ers defense last week. They just seemed infinitely more disciplined than they've been. We know that they can be a top tier defense. They're at home this week. And even though it's the Chiefs who just had that kind of offensive onslaught on New England, I really like San Francisco's defense this week.
A
So there can. There's always that emotional. They're on short week riding really, really high.
B
Because you still don't have any wide receivers. No, they just ran it down.
A
Big boy Kelsey is coming. Yeah, we've. We've talked about him, I think weekly and I think that might have been the week. So if you didn't really get. If you did not buy him. You're the price.
B
Get him now.
A
The price is gonna keep going.
B
They're not listening to us. They might trade them to you.
A
Who's not listening to us.
B
That's a good point. If you're not listening, you better snart fantasy forecast. All right, let's move on and answer some questions that people have sent In.
A
All right. Our buddy Frank.
B
There you go.
A
Buddy Frank is asking, should I trade Reggie Wayne for Michael Crabtree, the foot man?
B
Crabtree, that is a really difficult decision to make for me. Is that difficult?
A
It's really hard for me, too.
B
To me, what I think I will say is no. And I'm gonna say that on the basis of the quarterback play. And so I'm gonna stay with Reggie Wayne. If, you know, Crabtree has all this upside, but he's also got. He's been banged up, and I just don't like it.
A
Yeah, but Crabtree had a good week and was one start of the week, Kaepernick terrible throw away from a touchdown. He ran a quick slant and it was wide open and Kaepernick missed him.
B
Yeah. So for you, are you in the same boat for Frank should hang on to Reggie.
A
I'm gambling on Crabtree.
B
You're gambling?
A
Yeah.
B
Well, that's not helpful. So do whatever you want to do.
A
Well, you got to pick your favorite analyst and you side with him.
B
Here's a question coming in from Steve. He says, throw in the towel on Torrey Smith and pick up either Eddie Royal, Andrew Hawkins, or Golden Tate.
A
My boy Golden Tate finally showed up last week.
B
Your towel has been thrown on Torrey Smith.
A
Oh, we're not even gonna talk about Torrey Smith? Torrey Smith, finally.
B
So if you had to pick, maybe the better thing answer there is Eddie Royal, Andrew Hawkins, or Golden Tate?
A
Golden Tate.
B
Yeah, me too. I would go Tate Hawkins, Royal, actually in that order.
A
I would go Tate Royal Hawkins.
B
Okay.
A
But Tate, absolutely. I mean, he had a great game. He didn't score. But the.
B
Well, the injury to Calvin mixed with the quarterback play, I think is why you go Tate there.
A
Yeah, absolutely.
B
What else we got?
A
Bobby. Bobby Jr. Has asked us, do I trade Jerick McKinnon for big boy Travis Kelce?
B
That's an interesting trade. You got two guys that you're completely betting on unknown. In a sense, this is a complete. This is depending on your team. I mean, you can't. If you're a team that has strong wide receiver play and you need a tight end, I don't have any problem with this trade. I. I love Travis Kelce. I love him as an up and coming tight end and I love him as a pass catcher in Kansas City. But if you're a team that needs a spark at running back, I wouldn't ship McKinnon out before he explodes.
A
I think McKinnon's.
B
What would you do here?
A
I think Kelsey's the safer guy. So I would make the trade. I would make the trade.
B
You would do it.
A
I agree. It depends on my team. Let's say if McKinnon is my third running back, I'm not making the trade, but Kelsey is. He's coming. And McKinnon is still unknown. I think I. I think he is ascending, but I think he's ascending while Travis Kelce, I think is here. He's here for fantasy relevance.
B
Yep. Greg Olson. This comes from Dennis. Greg Olson or Delaney Walker this week?
A
Oh, man. Greg Olson has been great all year, except for last week, and Delaney Walker has been very good all year. Let's see, what are the. What are the matchups? Who are the Titans playing? The Browns.
B
This is a tough one.
A
That is a very difficult question. I'm going to lean Walker.
B
Okay. Yeah, I think. I think that I'm going to lean Olson. And that's just based on consistency this year and the situation at quarterback right now in Tennessee. So what else do we have here? Do you have any more questions?
A
Yeah, so we'll just do a time check real quick. Oh, okay. We got time for one more question. One more question and let's go to the defense question. This one's coming in, says, is it time to drop the Carolina D?
B
Is it time to drop the Carolina defense? Yes. Yes, it is time to drop the Carolina defense.
A
If you're in a.
B
This is what we're talking about from last week. It's really nice to pick up that quote, unquote, great defense in the back half of the draft. Unless it means you start them every week against your better judgment because you drafted them. Carolina's defense has not performed. Their offense is not putting them in a good position to perform. And if you are still running them out week after week, you are making a mistake. Oh, I've been a complete dumpster fire.
A
If you're in. If you're in one of those vicious leagues like we are, Carolina's actually scored negative points back to back weeks.
B
Yes, that is pretty bad.
A
And I'm no mathematician, but.
B
You're not.
A
There's one thing worse than getting a zero, and that's a negative number.
B
That's right. Hey, let me give you some perspective on your Greg Olson, Delaney Walker question as well, because if you hop onto fantasypros.com you can actually compare any player week to week start. And sit. Who should I start week 5? If you look at the expert ranking, 73% of experts agree with me. Oh, and say Greg Olson versus Chicago.
A
I would have checked I didn't know the they were fantasy pros was running some site maintenance while we were recording.
B
You weren't able to take a peek?
A
Yeah, it was not.
B
But yes, Greg Olson right now is ahead in the expert rankings, so if you have more questions, we'd be happy to answer them. How do they get a hold of us here? Got the email address.
A
Let's find out the fantasy footballersmail.com or. I mean, we got a Facebook page, the fantasy footballers.com it'll get us. It goes directly to our. Our page. And I think you can submit a pod or question for the podcast right there.
B
Yep. It's not too hard. You can. You can also send them in on the Facebook page, which is facebook.com the fantasy footballers.
A
That's easy.
B
Yeah. That's simple. Now you know. Yes. And if you want, subscribe to us on itunes, Leave us a review, tell us what you like, what you don't like, and we'll be bringing more news and notes from around the league. More starts and sits, more information to help you win your league each every week.
A
And from me, you're going to get a lot more of the letter N.
B
In your general analysis. You're just gonna be.
A
It's like Sesame street with the letter of the day. Was N. Yes.
B
Well, we'll count on you to bring it next week. So otherwise, that's all I got. See you back here next week.
A
Unique New York. I didn't warm up.
B
Keep practicing.
A
Red leather, yellow leather. See? I didn't warm up.
B
All right, enjoy week five, everybody.
A
Take it easy. Thanks, everybody. Thank you for listening to another edition, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 4/5 (Released September 30, 2014)
Hosts: Andy Holloway and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
In this episode, Andy Holloway and Mike Wright delve deep into the happenings of Week 4, transitioning into Week 5 of the fantasy football season. They reflect on the strong performances across the board, particularly highlighting the impressive numbers posted by quarterbacks.
The hosts discuss the evolving nature of fantasy leagues, suggesting a shift towards a more pass-heavy format as the season progresses.
Injuries continue to play a pivotal role in fantasy decisions. The hosts highlight several key players whose availability could significantly influence their fantasy teams.
Jamal Charles: Making a return, Charles impressed with his performance despite a scare with cramps (03:03). Andy emphasizes the importance of balanced usage to keep Charles fresh:
Vernon Davis: Facing back spasms and listed as questionable, making him a risky starter.
Niles Paulson (Washington Redskins): Suffered a concussion and is out of practice, raising concerns about his reliability.
Teddy Bridgewater: His performance is under scrutiny as he's questionable for the upcoming Thursday game, adding uncertainty to his fantasy relevance.
Several players have emerged as consistent or breakout stars this week, providing valuable insights for fantasy owners.
Antonio Brown: Continues his streak with five catches and over 50 yards for the 20th straight game.
Steve Smith: Despite minimal touches, Smith delivered a high-impact performance with multiple touchdowns.
Andrew Luck and DeMarco Murray: Both players are on an upward trajectory, becoming top choices in their respective positions.
The hosts provide strategic advice on potential waiver wire pickups to strengthen fantasy rosters.
Jerick McKinnon (Minnesota Vikings): Recommended as the top waiver wire pickup due to his athleticism and potential role increase.
Ben Tate and Terrence West (Carolina Panthers): With injuries to primary backs, Tate emerges as a viable RB2 option.
Eddie Royal: Continues to impress with multiple touchdowns, making him a valuable up-and-coming receiver.
Andy and Mike offer their top choices for starting players each week, guiding listeners on optimal lineup decisions.
Quarterbacks:
Running Backs:
Wide Receivers:
Tight Ends:
Defenses:
The hosts address questions submitted by listeners, offering personalized advice based on their expertise.
Frank's Dilemma: Reggie Wayne vs. Michael Crabtree
Steve's Query: Dropping Torrey Smith for Eddie Royal, Andrew Hawkins, or Golden Tate
Bobby Jr.'s Trade Proposal: Jerick McKinnon for Travis Kelce
Dennis's Choice: Greg Olson vs. Delaney Walker
Is it Time to Drop the Carolina Defense?
Andy Holloway and Mike Wright wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to engage with their content through subscriptions and social media. They emphasize the importance of staying informed and proactive in managing fantasy teams to secure weekly victories.
Notable Quotes:
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and recommendations from the Fantasy Footballers Podcast for Week 4/5, providing valuable guidance for fantasy football enthusiasts.