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Mike Wright
Foreigners podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway and Mike Wright. Those that was the fox.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I guess.
Mike Wright
Welcome to the fantasy Footballers podcast. It is October 28th. The NFL trade deadline looms.
Andy Holloway
So like anticlimactic. Especially, especially because we like in fantasy football there's so many trades flying around.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And in the NFL not so much.
Mike Wright
And every year we make a big deal of it and then nothing happens.
Andy Holloway
I wonder if Goodell really wishes like if he bribes a couple bad teams to just make a trade.
Mike Wright
He probably wishes the news there was trades. But as we said, my name is Mike Wright.
Andy Holloway
My name is Andy Holloway.
Mike Wright
Did you forget your last name?
Andy Holloway
I did, but.
Mike Wright
So we are, we are beat writers. We are correspondents for fantasypros.com and we host this lovely, lovely, very lovely weekly, currently weekly podcast show.
Andy Holloway
Could be more eventually.
Mike Wright
Eventually we would love to do more.
Andy Holloway
If the feedback that we get continues to be good. People seem to enjoy it. I've got actually a few itunes reviews if you do you mind if I read one?
Mike Wright
Oh, absolutely. I love to hear how good we are.
Andy Holloway
Here's one from C. Fennelly. Five star review. He says this podcast is great. Of course, real dudes talking about fantasy football love it. Too many fantasy podcasts are garbage and this is a needed raise. Ray of sunshine. Amazeballs.
Mike Wright
Two dudes.
Andy Holloway
Here's one simply, simply Draven. My first round podcast pick is what he what he calls it. Oh, great mix of quality fantasy football content and humor. Mike and Andy are a great team that have put together a great podcast.
Mike Wright
We are two real dudes. We are two dudes.
Andy Holloway
We are a kneaded ray of sunshine.
Mike Wright
I'm not gonna get over that. Two real dudes.
Andy Holloway
But if you enjoy the podcast, we ask that you go give us a review please. 5 star review on itunes so that we can move up the charts and replace some of those inferior, less beneficial to you podcasts that exist.
Mike Wright
It does make a difference to us because we move up. There's all these weird analytic things that it, it helps our show out, gets us.
Andy Holloway
The better we do, the more shows we'll do. Probably that's true if we have more people listening, sending in questions, those type of things. And so go we ask. Please give us a review, a good review.
Mike Wright
If you have a bad review, just leave it at home.
Andy Holloway
Right. We don't really care about those. So let's get into it.
Mike Wright
News and notes from around the league.
Andy Holloway
Oh yes, that's right. What do we got going on in the world of Fantasy Football?
Mike Wright
Week 8. Not Not Too bad. Not too bad on the injury front, but let's see. We'll leave the blockbuster one for the end, but we'll start out. Jordan Cameron has another concussion.
Andy Holloway
Not good.
Mike Wright
He has a history of concussions, so we will not be surprised if he is out from even two to three weeks. If you are a Cameron owner, I sincerely apologize because he's not been very well and now he's out for a couple games.
Andy Holloway
That's right. Yeah. Brian Quick, flash in the pan. Brian Quick is out for the year. See you later. Goodbye. Look for those targets to probably go Kenny, Britt, Stedman, Bailey's way, I. E. You're in trouble if you're relying on a wide receiver from St. Louis. But no more Brian Quick the rest of the year, which is too bad. He had a good start to the.
Mike Wright
Year and he had shoulder surgery. He was out.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Mike Wright
Giovanni. Now, just a Quick. I've heard that it's actually pronounced Giovanni and we all call him Giovanni.
Andy Holloway
I didn't know that.
Mike Wright
I cannot confirm or deny this.
Andy Holloway
Does that mean that if we pronounce it correctly, he'll come on the show?
Mike Wright
I hear we've got him lined up for potentially sometime in the maybe future.
Andy Holloway
Does that matter how bad his hip injury is?
Mike Wright
Yes. So we bring him up because he has a hip injury. He left the game. He missed almost the entire fourth quarter. They are. The Bengals are claiming it is not serious, but that is a situation to monitor. If you are not a Jeremy Hill owner, you're going to want to look into that.
Andy Holloway
Absolutely. Doug Martin, the Doug Martin boy, how.
Mike Wright
He did he get traded yet?
Andy Holloway
He's either hurt or running for less than three yards. No, he did not get traded yet. We are sitting 16 minutes from the NFL deadline. I doubt he gets traded, but he has been miserable this year. Out with the leg injury. We don't know necessarily. I know Levy Smith came out and said, hey, he needs to get more carries, but Chris Sims is coming, making his debut this week, and he is a.
Mike Wright
Is that confirmed?
Andy Holloway
It's pretty. Pretty confirmed, yeah. And he's the rookie that was actually drafted by the Levy Smith regime. And you also have Chris Rainey or, I'm sorry, Bobby Rainey in the mix. Not Chris Rainey. Bobby Rainey in the mix. So Doug Martin, he's just not a guy you want to start.
Mike Wright
He's not a Quick. Fun fact that I saw somebody had tweeted out and they said since the game and I think we all know is that the four touchdown the Martin game against I think it was the Raiders. Since that game, he has averaged 3.3 yards of carry.
Andy Holloway
Ouch.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So not good.
Andy Holloway
And even, even if Sims doesn't start.
Mike Wright
This week, it's just he's probably going to take over.
Andy Holloway
Doug Martin's not the guy that. No, that's going to carry the majority of the.
Mike Wright
Robert Woods, Buffalo Bills wide receiver, left the game with a back injury. We don't have very much information on that yet, so look for that.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I didn't even see the Nate Washington injury, nor do I believe it's relevant to fantasy football.
Mike Wright
Well, it's relevant that if you're a.
Andy Holloway
Justin Hunter, strained AC owner or AC.
Mike Wright
Joint, then Justin Hunter is going to get more targets on him.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he's already starting.
Mike Wright
Yeah, but I'm just saying.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Nate Washington was actually a guy that was brought up in trade rumors as well. Stephan Taylor, goal line back, backup for the Cardinals for Andre Ellington is out for two to four weeks with a calf injury. And then the big one from last.
Mike Wright
Night, big one, Tony Romo, he hurt his back during game. He was able to come back.
Andy Holloway
He probably.
Mike Wright
If you were watching the game, he should not have come back.
Andy Holloway
Brandon, I think we probably disagree on that one. By the way.
Mike Wright
You think he should have come back?
Andy Holloway
I think your quarterback, if he can play, he plays.
Mike Wright
See to me, if he tell.
Andy Holloway
If he comes up to the coach and says I can play, you play him. I mean just because Whedon had a half decent drive and got a 60 yard screen pass by Demarco Murray, he.
Mike Wright
Had two half decent drives and you. Well, Romo came back and they saw.
Andy Holloway
Just think about if Whedon doesn't win the game, what does everybody say to me that's fine.
Mike Wright
I don't know, I just.
Andy Holloway
They say, why wasn't Tony Romo allowed back in the game?
Mike Wright
Yeah. And now.
Andy Holloway
So, I mean it's what we're playing.
Mike Wright
What if. What if news comes out today, Tony Romo should not have gone back in because now he's out for the year.
Andy Holloway
Right. Yeah.
Mike Wright
So. But so he did come back in. They're calling it a back contusion.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. He looked like he was in a ton of pain.
Mike Wright
Yes. They're running scans.
Andy Holloway
Do you think, I mean, just gut feeling. It's Tuesday, so unfortunately we don't have end of week practice reports. Do you think that there's any chance he misses this game on Sunday against Arizona?
Mike Wright
I think he plays. I think Arizona saw what Washington did of just jailbreaking essentially every play and he's gonna get hit and it's not gonna be good.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he. He looked very bad after the injury. He had no mobility. He had about 20 yards he could have gained on that last play for the first down. So keep your eye on the practice reports about Tony Romo if he's your quarterback and if you're a DEZ Bryant owner. If you're a Witten owner.
Mike Wright
I'm not. I'm not too concerned, actually, about Des Bryant. I think we didn't actually might force.
Andy Holloway
Feed him a little bit more. Yeah. But probably means nothing new for demarco if anything more carries.
Mike Wright
So he's fine.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
He's a beast.
Andy Holloway
Let's move it.
Mike Wright
This week's fantasy stud muffins. Stud Muffins.
Andy Holloway
There's a lot of interesting names in terms of guys that kind of played above their fantasy pay grade this week.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
And I'd love to kind of hear your opinion on it.
Mike Wright
The muffins. The muffins are fluffy and studly.
Andy Holloway
Yes, they are. I don't know if I'm making too much about the Nick Foles performance. 411 yards, two touchdowns, two picks. I don't think. I just don't think it's going to continue. Arizona gives up a lot of yards. They do.
Mike Wright
I was taking a look back at Nick Foles. He's actually had pretty good numbers throughout the year. He had one just stinker of a game which has killed his average. His average in his position.
Andy Holloway
He's turning the ball over.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Unlike last year, where he was last year. He was just getting away with weird things. But he's okay if he's. If he's your starter, then I probably keep rolling with him.
Andy Holloway
Let me. Maybe we should. In this section. This is just an idea.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
Maybe we should say whether he's a stud moving forward or not. Maybe that should be kind of the determiner for some of these.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
What do you think?
Mike Wright
I will continue.
Andy Holloway
Okay. So you think I was.
Mike Wright
I think he stays muffiny.
Andy Holloway
The stud continues. Yeah. Stud muffin continues for Foals. Mark Ingram had a monster game. 24 carries, 172 yards on the ground, and a touchdown. He looked the same way he looked in the beginning of the year, which is like a different running back.
Mike Wright
Yes. He looks. He is.
Andy Holloway
Does he seem thinner to you? Did he lose weight? You're the Saints correspondent.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Lose weight. This offseason.
Mike Wright
That was. That has not been confirmed, but that is a lot of. A lot of the beat writers are talking about.
Andy Holloway
Are they.
Mike Wright
He just Looks the way he looks. He's moving much better.
Andy Holloway
He looks like he has a different body than the last.
Mike Wright
He's also playing for a contract.
Andy Holloway
All about that money. All about that money, money.
Mike Wright
Contract years do tend to change how.
Andy Holloway
Guys play and running backs get about one of those. So.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So you got to go for it.
Andy Holloway
So what is he going forward? Because his Kyrie Robinson, Pierre Thomas were out this week.
Mike Wright
I think he remains. He'll go back to his running back to status because Sean Payton will screw it up because he.
Andy Holloway
I think he does have a good matchup this week against Carolina and they.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And it's a short week. Thomas is still going to be out. I don't expect Kyrie Robinson to be back.
Andy Holloway
So he's probably another solid start right at this week. Again, I'm going to let you take the next one just because Lorenzo.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he.
Mike Wright
So he. His yardage wasn't huge, but he was 7 for 27. He got two touchdowns, two catches for 42 yards. The.
Andy Holloway
The bigger story here is what you were about to say, I think, which is that Bernard Pierce was a healthy scratch.
Mike Wright
Exactly. That's a big deal.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. This means tell if Taliaferro, if they keep things as is is the compliment to Justin Forset.
Mike Wright
And he is. He's the big back. He's gonna get the touchdowns. Now is Harbaugh going Cleveland on us where they scratched west one week. So we thought it had it all figured out and then they decided no, Crowell is now below West.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Like that situation could happen.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Based on the week of practice.
Mike Wright
Right. But I don't. I. I would keep this muffin in the oven and I would let it simmer at 350 for some more touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I like that. I like the way you tied that all in there. And you know, the nice thing is he's a young guy. Young guys are exciting. Speaking of another young guy, Theo Riddick had a really good game. If you watched, if you were awake, if you're on the West Coast, I don't know.
Mike Wright
Ridiculous, man.
Andy Holloway
I thought it was spectacular to wake up to football. But if you watch that London game, Theo Riddick came in and he. He made a couple impressive catches out of the backfield. And the report, he went 8 for 6, 74 through the air with a touchdown. He's definitely not the between the tackles runner. Neither is Reggie Bush, really. And these two guys are going to split time. Theo Riddick and Reggie Bush, they're on by this week. Riddick is a guy that I don't think you have to pick up.
Mike Wright
No, I would agree.
Andy Holloway
He's not a guy I expect to continue to put, to continue to put up numbers like this. If Reggie Bush has relevance, but he's a young guy and if, if Bush is out for extended period of time. Reddick is a guy you could, you could put in there.
Mike Wright
I would expect because they had. Like we said, the lines are on by this week. I would expect the. That Reggie Bush is back.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
When the, when the buy is over.
Andy Holloway
So Riddick is the guy. Probably you can take him out of the oven. Right.
Mike Wright
You get, you pull him out. But whenever Reggie Bush goes out and gets dinged, he's what she tends to do.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
You fire up Theo Riddick and reports are there.
Andy Holloway
They're gonna share time probably with an interest of Reggie Bush not getting hurt. So couple of Brandons we can go through really quickly. Just give me the.
Mike Wright
We got Brandon and Brandon.
Andy Holloway
Brandon, Brandon. Brandon Lafell had a monster game target wise and catches 11 for 124 and a touchdown. Brandon Cook 6 for 94 on a touchdown and also had a four yard touchdown run. Studs going forward, Brandon Lefell, Brandon Cooks.
Mike Wright
Do you think that Brandon Lefell is sad that he. He doesn't have Cam Newton throwing him the ball anymore?
Andy Holloway
No. No.
Mike Wright
Who was the other guy that I'm trying to think of, the other receiver who went to New England. But anyways, Lafel, we'll just stick with him. He. I actually really like lefell. That offense, the New England offense has gone Franz Kafka on us. That is metamorphosized.
Andy Holloway
I can't read Brandon Lafell's name without getting pissed off. That's because I dropped him. I signed him last week in our, in our league, in our dynasty league and then I dropped him for Justin Hunter and he had his breakout game. So Stud, going forward, you like Lafeld. What about Cooks?
Mike Wright
I do like him. Cooks is going to be completely hit or miss. It was just happened to be his turn. Kenny Stills didn't have the bomb. Touchdown. Cooks got it this week.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Mike Wright
I am not relying on Cooks. If you got him, that's great. I'm not going to dump him or anything like that, but he's. I have little faith in Cooks right now.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. To hit or miss. Allen Robinson had a big game. Five for 82 and a touchdown.
Mike Wright
Larry collected that garbage.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he did. Garbage time. Touchdown from Blake. Interception Man, Bortles. I read today that they want Bortles to not throw more than eight interceptions. The rest of the way.
Mike Wright
Yeah, good luck with that.
Andy Holloway
I like that. The bar is you're allowed to throw eight. It's not go out there and don't throw any.
Mike Wright
I mean it doesn't really matter.
Andy Holloway
I mean Alan Robinson is the best of the worst.
Mike Wright
I still like him.
Andy Holloway
No, he's good, but you can't count on him.
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
Larry Fitzgerald had a turn back the clock performance. Seven for 116, a touchdown, 80 yard bomb, 80 over.
Mike Wright
That was one.
Andy Holloway
But still if you take that away, he went six for 80 and a touchdown with six for 80.
Mike Wright
So which is not bad at all.
Andy Holloway
Different for him. John brown his counterpart. Five for 119 and a touchdown. Arizona's wide receivers there any value going forward.
Mike Wright
I think John Brown is going to be. He's similar to Cooks.
Andy Holloway
Where would you rather have John Brown or Larry Fitzgerald?
Mike Wright
I would rather have Larry Fitzgerald.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
I think that he's going to be more involved in the game plans. And when you would say John Brown is good is when you. If you watch the entire game as us Arizona Cardinal fans did they. Carson Palmer and Bruce Arians, he loves going deep and he and Brown's, that.
Andy Holloway
Guy'S a deep guy.
Mike Wright
So potentially for our, for our next segment where we talk about poop, you could talk about Michael Floyd, but he was very close on a couple plays because the Cardinals just, they will go deep constantly.
Andy Holloway
You will have one or two attempts at getting John Brown deep a game at least so because Arians likes to, to air it out. So if you need a home run guy like I think that would be the best example for this.
Mike Wright
That's a good.
Andy Holloway
If you're a guy that's like you're losing in your matchup and you need a chance at a 25 point fantasy game, you're going to go with a guy like John Brown over somebody maybe like, well even even over Larry Fitzgerald probably. But more so over a guy like Alan Robinson. Like a guy like Marcus Colston, a guy that's gonna give you more run of the mill catch numbers. Rumen Randall, those guys, I'd rather be rolling John Brown out there and say hey, hit a home run for me.
Mike Wright
Yeah. John Brown extreme ceiling. Equally as extreme.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Basement.
Andy Holloway
Yep. So let's move it on down the road.
Mike Wright
Hooped in his big boy pants. Skin smelly.
Andy Holloway
Oh, who do we got here that have pooped the big boy pants? Guys that we expected to do better this quarter.
Mike Wright
Quarterbacks. Maybe you didn't hear, maybe you didn't expect them to do better, But Joe Flacco 195 yards, two picks, no touchdowns. So that was a abysmal fantasy performance. If you started Flacco Cam Newton the hype train and the hope was riding high two weeks ago. It is. It's not doing so good anymore the past two weeks he's not big good this week. 171 passing yards, no touchdowns, one interception, one fumble. And then he ran.
Andy Holloway
He was against Seattle.
Mike Wright
He ran 12 times for 24 yards. Yeah but I don't Gino Jonathan Stewart could run against Seattle.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Geno Smith.
Mike Wright
He's on here just because it's funny that I think he had a quarterback and negative five and a half points. Not that anyone played him but can you imagine.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. If I go through these guys real quick I say Joe Flacco still a startable fantasy quarterback.
Mike Wright
What about Cam Newton?
Andy Holloway
I think Cam Newton is too both of these guys that take off the poop list because Cam Newton had for the and we'll talk about this a little bit later. Cam Newton hat is my start of the week I believe.
Mike Wright
Wow.
Andy Holloway
And he is. Yeah he's run for this is a stat I was going to say for them but he's had 10 or more rushes in two of his last three games and yes the production wasn't there in this specific game but I think you're going to get a pretty high baseline on the way out from what I can see. So we'll see.
Mike Wright
Hit the button for Marshawn Lynch.
Andy Holloway
You're worried I'm man third straight game without a score. 14 for 62.
Mike Wright
What is going on?
Andy Holloway
Something's happened to that offense now he.
Mike Wright
Did drop a touchdown catch which would.
Andy Holloway
Man for the second or third week in a row he's had one that was called back or didn't happen.
Mike Wright
Well he. He had a touchdown called back last week but this one was it literally bounced off of his chest at the end of the half which for Russell Wilson owners was a 8 point turnaround because 8 point swing because it was a touchdown and he should have caught it.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Mike Wright
But it turned into a pick but he's. They're not giving him work. Is the the bigger thing another.
Andy Holloway
So let me ask You Marshawn lynch vs. Ronnie Hillman Rest of the way.
Mike Wright
Wow, that's a really tough question. I still have to lean lynch because he. He should still get the touchdowns where Hillman was vultured twice this week to much chagrin of me in multiple leagues where that both if he scored on those two touchdowns that changes. That changes two of my leagues. I win.
Andy Holloway
So bitterness is clouding your.
Mike Wright
No. Never. Never. But I don't know what's going on with lynch and just Seattle seems to have lost their magic and their luster. They are going back home. I think they have a good match of this. Oh yeah. Oakland's coming to town. So this is. I will say this. I'm already very concerned about Lynch. If nothing happens in the Oakland game, I'm going. I'm jumping off a bridge.
Andy Holloway
You're going to be really, really worried. Yeah. Makes sense. Lynch has had a rough go of it of late, but I think more of it just has to do with that offense is just not. Looks like something's wrong.
Mike Wright
I can agree with that.
Andy Holloway
So now they're still 4 and 3 and winning. So some wide receivers. Any of these guys. Let me just ask you this. Are you worried about any of these guys? These four moving forward? Jordy Nelson?
Mike Wright
No way.
Andy Holloway
Julio Jones?
Mike Wright
Mildly concerned. Yes.
Andy Holloway
Steve Smith, senior.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think the market correction is starting to happen for Smith. He did. He had a huge touchdown call back right on his controversial sketchy offensive pass interference. But he just, he was one of my top surprises from, from the first quarter of the season where I just. I did not see that coming. And I don't think anybody else really saw it coming. I don't think defenses saw it coming. So they have. Oh, trade was there while we're, while we're going. Adam Schefter has reported the Bucks finalized a trade of safety Mark Baron to the Rams.
Andy Holloway
Oh, okay.
Mike Wright
So not really super fantasy relevant, but that's still fun to have. Breaking news while.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I was trying to catch something.
Mike Wright
But I scooped you.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, you did. I think the deadline just passed too, so I'm too busy looking at the fact that our Arizona Cardinals are number two in the power rankings.
Mike Wright
Oh, delicious. Ian Rapaport did say the Cardinals tried to add edge help but nothing materialized. So back to the fantasy show. So Steve Smith. I actually if you. If you were counting on Steve Smith and not just benefiting from him where you have other guys.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
And you just have to be. You were riding it. If you are depending on Smith, I think there is a. There is a danger coming for you. There is a what is deep rising sized wave coming for you.
Andy Holloway
Well, it's hard. It's hard with a guy. You see this with veterans. A lot of times they might start off a little higher and then come back down to earth because nobody had seen him with Baltimore. I still like him more than Torrey Smith.
Mike Wright
Now a another veteran, Brandon Marshall. Brandon Marshall. What is your concern level with Brandon Marshall?
Andy Holloway
It's fairly high. I still think he's going to be productive, but I'm starting to drop him down into the Larry Fitzgerald category where not only is he aging and that offense is struggling. Now, those don't both apply to Arizona, but you have Ashon Jeffrey on the other side. If Brandon Marshall was all alone, I would expect a correction quicker. Honestly, I, I'm concerned because I would have expected it this last game after he complained, but he only had three catches for 35 yards, no touchdowns. And the more I watched them, he.
Mike Wright
Was targeted in the end zone a few times this week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean and that happens pretty much every week. But the more I watch, the more I see Cutler skittish throwing to Martellus Bennett and throwing to Forte. Matt Forte dumping it. So, yeah, some concerns there. You also had some. The only two downer weeks really of the year for Greg Olson and Julius Thomas. I wouldn't expect either of those things to continue, but if you were an owner of one of those guys, you were probably pretty disappointed.
Mike Wright
I was an owner of three of those guys and it ruined my weekend. I will say this about Julius Thomas, the. Which I don't know if we've actually talked about it on the show, but just what how touchdown dependent Julius Thomas really, when you break down his numbers, how he does rely on that touchdown.
Andy Holloway
Which of all the teams to rely on it for.
Mike Wright
Right. I mean you can. That's what we said. You can probably count on it. But when you roll with a guy like that, you are gonna get weeks like this.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, absolutely. It happens.
Mike Wright
Where Emmanuel Sanders is on the. The opposing fantasy team that you're playing so he can catch three touchdowns. Put me in, coach. Let's talk waivers.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Let's see if we can get you some guys to win your week or.
Mike Wright
Better yet, turn it around.
Andy Holloway
Win your league.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Get your championship set up. We.
Andy Holloway
A lot of trade deadlines are coming up, so waivers are a place that you're gonna be able to get a lasting impact.
Mike Wright
So as we said, we are. We write for fantasypros.com which is a tremendous tool on the Internets. Tons of stuff on there is free too, where you can get all kinds of information. They, they like to take opinions from experts all over and then they kind of average them out. I mean so it's. You're not just getting one opinion. You're getting. You're getting a lot of experts from around the. The globe.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. No A good compilation, a good consensus rankings. And so that's every week when we do our waiver wire section, what we do is we just take the consensus waiver wire rankings and talk about those guys.
Mike Wright
Exactly.
Andy Holloway
Which guys we think are going to make the biggest impact going forward. Which ones are maybe Tre Mason, like flash in the pans, potentially. Mason was one of the top signings last week. Now he looks like he's stuck inside of a pretty bad rbbc. So top few guys here. I'm gonna read you the top five names off of this waiver list. I want you to put them in order for me.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
Brandon lefell, Jonathan Stewart, Alan Robinson, Bobby Rainey and Charles Sims.
Mike Wright
Okay. Of this list, lafail is going to top my list. The news broke maybe 20 minutes ago. D'Angelo's playing for the Panthers and he's starting. So Stewart probably.
Andy Holloway
He looked good last week.
Mike Wright
He did look. He looked good. I would assume that these people were weighing in on waivers before they knew for sure if D'Angelo was coming back fair. So second, I would actually go. I would be torn between Sims and Rainey. Now. He's a. Sims is a rookie. He was a later round draft, later round pick. And I mean, he's, he hasn't played at all. He's also has not how. I don't know how much practice he's gotten in, but is Lovey Smith really ready to say, hey, rookie, you know, get in there. And Bobby Rainey, when he's been given the workhorse position, has produced pretty good fantasy numbers. He's had a couple. He has some ball security issues, but you know who else has ball security issues? Demarco Murray.
Andy Holloway
No one cares either.
Mike Wright
Get over yourself. Just.
Andy Holloway
No one cares.
Mike Wright
Just because you're running back fumbles a couple times. If he's doing great, you don't kill him by putting. I'm talking to Lovey Smith.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I thought you were talking to Bill Belichick.
Mike Wright
No. Oh, him too. But I'm just saying, look at. Look what Murray's doing. Yeah, he's lost five fumbles already.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, well, you saw it in the post game interview with Garrett yesterday too. Garrett, like, barely had a negative thing to say about it. He actually was. It was probably to the detriment of DeMarco Murray owners that he didn't condemn the fumbles a little bit more because he was just kind of like, yeah, he, you know, he runs pretty aggressively and, you know, he's a beast.
Mike Wright
You just, you have to me, that's some of the stuff that you just have to take if you're going to get all that good.
Andy Holloway
Well, you still expect the guy to improve upon it. I mean, whether you're Tiki Barber or, you know, Tiki Barber had a problem like that too.
Mike Wright
And so did Peterson.
Andy Holloway
You know, you do get concerned more so towards the end of games. Yeah, but. Yeah. So if you had to start one of these five this week, who do you start?
Mike Wright
Lefell.
Andy Holloway
Brandon.
Mike Wright
Absolutely. He's a target of mine in quite a few of my leagues where I need a wide receiver. So. And I. And we talked about Alan Robinson. Let's read a couple more guys on here.
Andy Holloway
Jonas, he's another name that you might or might not know. He is the running back that took over the big back role. New England.
Mike Wright
And I was trying to remember why didn't we talk about him last week? And it's because the. Was that the Thursday game the week before the Thursday. I don't know. I don't know why we didn't talk about them. Him because I actually, it's a secret. Don't tell anyone.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
But I'm in a league. When my wife is in the league, I'm running her team.
Andy Holloway
Don't. Don't tell any of those other people.
Mike Wright
Don't tell the rest of the.
Andy Holloway
Really?
Mike Wright
Well, she's. And what's funny about it is my team is awful. I'm one in seven in that league.
Andy Holloway
Don't admit that. Is your wife beating you?
Mike Wright
Oh, my wife just beat me this week handedly. So I guess I beat myself. But. But I snuck. I snuck Jonas Gray on her team before. Before Sunday. So that was one of those.
Andy Holloway
Ha ha.
Mike Wright
I feel so smart because I grabbed Gray right before he had a punch.
Andy Holloway
Grabbed Gray.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean. Shh.
Mike Wright
Don't tell anybody.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's funny.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Jonas Gray is a guy.
Mike Wright
He's Steven Ridley.
Andy Holloway
Now I was gonna say he's a guy that you play in games. You think the Patriots are going to run the ball in.
Mike Wright
Exactly. If you.
Andy Holloway
If you think I don't like him this week, for example, I can't remember who that was. Dimasher.
Mike Wright
Oh, no, no.
Andy Holloway
This is the type of game where Shane Marines on the field. You also saw James White get some.
Mike Wright
Carries, which is exactly why you should play Jonas Gray.
Andy Holloway
Right?
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
But I like him. If you need a back Lorenzo, to me he's the.
Andy Holloway
Honestly, Lorenzo is back on the top of my waiver list.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm surprised because of long term value.
Andy Holloway
Telly Afaro is two touchdowns this week. Came in. The reports from the coach after the game were positive on Telefiero. So I don't think it. It's going to change. Another guy that I was impressed with just with my eyes.
Mike Wright
Is it the next guy on the list?
Andy Holloway
It's not.
Mike Wright
Okay, we'll get back to him.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, we'll get back to him. The guy that impressed me this week is devonte Adams because he caught everything thrown his way and he looked like a guy that Rodgers depended on. Now he was the beneficiary of a. Of a kind of.
Mike Wright
Of Jordy getting Jordy dud game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. But it just shows how valuable Adams will be moving forward if Cobb or Jordy goes down and perhaps still flash in the pan like James Jones used to be. Now he's not as much of a red zone threat, but he does score touchdowns. A guy that will give you a really good game every once in a while. So do you want to count on him?
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
But if you are going into the playoffs with one of those other.
Mike Wright
And if you have Kobernet. We've talked about this, I think every week.
Andy Holloway
So pick him up.
Mike Wright
You could do. You could do much worse. And it's strange to handcuff a wide receiver, but when you hear. When you're. The receiver is going to get the ball from Aaron Rodgers, it changes everything. Martavis Bryant was the guy I wanted to talk about Pittsburgh.
Andy Holloway
Let's talk about him and Marcus Wheaton in the same breath.
Mike Wright
Okay. So they, they basically shared snapshot. I saw he played 33 of 80 or something.
Andy Holloway
Snaps a lot of snaps when you have a game like that.
Mike Wright
Bryant we're talking about now he's a fourth round rookie and clearly if you didn't notice a Big Ben had the game of his career with 6, 500 yards, six touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
So I put a little bit of. Yeah, I mean that throws a little bit of.
Mike Wright
So that skews things. However, what the. The takeaways from the game when I was watching it looked. And it's funny because it's following the same path as last year where the Steelers towards the second half of the year, it's like Big Ben just gets fed up with Haley's play calls and he says enough of you. You get on the sidelines and stay over there and I will take care of the offense. And they ran the. They were going no huddle and it looked like Big Ben was in charge.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Which is what happened last year when Big Ben really became productive. So perhaps they had forgotten that that worked so well. But it Just in the way that Wheaton has been playing. I know he's had a couple productive games.
Andy Holloway
He was productive this last game.
Mike Wright
He was too. But two touchdowns, I think Bryant has now had. No, I think, I think Wheaton had one.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
Maybe because Bryant had two, Brown had two, Miller had one.
Andy Holloway
That's a lot of touchdowns.
Mike Wright
Wheaton had one. So I think Bryant's gonna be the guy going forward. And there was a little blur you'd rather have over. There's a little blurb that came out that said from, from Pittsburgh. Tomlin was saying he thinks that Brian. You know, it just could be coach speak, but I think Bryant's gonna be the guy going forward. He, he might still be splitting some snaps, perhaps this week, but it's not going to take long until it's. It's gonna be Bryant and Brown.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So is there anybody else that jumps out? I mean, a question for you is, is Big Ben a top 10 startable quarterback here on out? Isn't that the literally the hardest question you could be asked in fantasy football anymore?
Mike Wright
Ridiculously hard because he's. His ebbs and flows are so extreme. But if they, you have to imagine they take to heart and, and this was against the Colts.
Andy Holloway
Now, solid defense were historic.
Mike Wright
I mean, over the year they've been a great defense. What's his face? Cornerback. Who's their, who's their good quarterback?
Andy Holloway
Vonte Davis.
Mike Wright
Davis. Davis got hurt in the game, so you have to factor that in. However, you would think the Steelers watch the film and go, now why was this so successful?
Andy Holloway
I just, I think you put Big Ben in the same category as Flacco. Flacco had a five touchdown game two weeks ago. He had a zero touchdown game. The difference between Rogers, Breeze, Luck, those guys is they don't have off games.
Mike Wright
Oh, I'm not calling him.
Andy Holloway
No, I know you're not, but I'm just saying if somebody in your league is jumping all over, he wants to trade you for Big Ben, I say trade Big Ben.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, if you can get something good, sure, why not?
Andy Holloway
Don't count on six touchdowns, everyone. Any other thoughts or should we move on?
Mike Wright
No, let's move it on starts of the week.
Andy Holloway
We're starting to hit home runs in this section.
Mike Wright
We are. And we.
Andy Holloway
If you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers podcast, every week you're getting starts of the week that most of these are hitting.
Mike Wright
Yes. And the. We. We did pretty well. And once again, these are not obvious starts. We are not saying Aaron Rodgers is my start of the week.
Andy Holloway
No, we're trying to pick guys out.
Mike Wright
That they might be on your bench.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Or even the waiver wire.
Mike Wright
And you're torn between some people. So we haven't done this before, but I thought we should actually. Let's have some humility, accountability. Humility and accountability. And talk about our starts of the week and how they did last week.
Andy Holloway
All right, let's go through these. I'll go through yours real quick.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
And you can go through mine. Your start of the week at quarterback was Ryan Tannehill. He actually had a disappointing game, I would say, for his matchup.
Mike Wright
He did.
Andy Holloway
For his matchup, he didn't kill you, but he was just under 200 yards in a touchdown. Jerick McKinnon was your.
Mike Wright
He didn't. Look at you.
Andy Holloway
You got to qualify it.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Well, I'll just say he didn't get the second touchdown, which is really disappointing. But when your defense scores two defensive touchdowns, it really changes.
Andy Holloway
No excuses, Mike.
Mike Wright
Yeah, excuses. It's been excused.
Andy Holloway
Jerick McKinnon, I would say disappointing as well, simply because he didn't.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean, he was 16 for 83. He certainly got all the bulk of the carries. Still an okay start.
Mike Wright
Just didn't score.
Andy Holloway
Just didn't score. Sammy Watkins was your start of the week. That was a big home run. He had a monster game.
Mike Wright
Should have been even bigger than bigger.
Andy Holloway
Had he not been a rookie.
Mike Wright
And Dan show, but he went to Sean Jackson.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So Jeremy Whitten was your tight end. Start. Hit a home run on that one. Absolutely. Good game. Touchdown. Long touchdown. I saw that. It was nice. You still have him written down as Jeremy Whitten, so that's pretty funny. And then you had the Texans defense, which they were.
Mike Wright
They were good.
Andy Holloway
They were. Yeah.
Mike Wright
They weren't Buffalo or Miami this week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. There you go.
Mike Wright
All right. And then let's hold you accountable, my friend. My. My coach.
Andy Holloway
I didn't have as good of a week as you, I don't think, but.
Mike Wright
No, but let's see. So Carson Palmer was a slam dunk 329 with two touchdowns. So he was. He was great. Joy Bell, 14 for 39 and 2 for 22 in the air. Now, this one is. Oh, yeah. Where it's.
Andy Holloway
They were down 21.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Why did this happen? Because they were down 21 0. So Theo Riddick came in and they were going scat back. Doug Baldwin versus Carolina. He went 6 for 61, which is a. Yeah, if that's. If that's your flex guy, you're you're okay. I suppose your tight end was Owen Daniels.
Andy Holloway
Hey, this is Tuesday, man. Nobody knew he wasn't gonna play.
Mike Wright
And the. The Ravens tricked us all.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Where they just said, oh no, he's missing.
Andy Holloway
Call that a miss. And then you started him. You suck.
Mike Wright
And then Friday, like, oh no, he had a hit a knee scope. That's why he's not practicing. What? Why would you not just say that? It's frustrating. And you went on a limb.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
And you took the Jaguars versus the Dolphins. And the Jaguars, they were actually okay. They were just, I think a couple points.
Andy Holloway
Not terrible. Texans so did okay last week.
Mike Wright
Yeah, they were startable.
Andy Holloway
All right, let's see who we got this week. Who's your quarterback?
Mike Wright
My quarterback? I'm taking pretty bold. I'm taking my bearded brethren. Fitzmagic.
Andy Holloway
Ryan Fitzmak.
Mike Wright
Ryan Fitzpatrick. He was 227 with the touchdown. He is playing Philadelphia now. Why am I doing this? Why am I streaming this? Philadelphia has given up multiple touchdowns in all but one game.
Andy Holloway
Nice.
Mike Wright
You're moving my microphone.
Andy Holloway
I know. I just stepped on your microphone. Yeah, that's a good start.
Mike Wright
So I like him to. To come in and stream for maybe. Maybe Romo owners are gonna need a guy or it's also Bipocalypse Part 2. So there's a lot of people who need a. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Rogers owners. Cam Newton's my start of the week as I mentioned before Thursday night football game which I know can be dangerous.
Mike Wright
It can.
Andy Holloway
Facing New Orleans their 27th versus the pass. Newton has 10 plus carries in two of his last three games. So in more of a. I'm expecting him to come out and get a better performance this week. So. I like Cam Newton. I wouldn't hesitate in starting him if you're an owner.
Mike Wright
That's bold considering the.
Andy Holloway
He just pooped his big boy pants.
Mike Wright
Well, he did do that and they actually played pretty well against the Packers.
Andy Holloway
What about against the Seahawks? Which the oh are you talking about?
Mike Wright
I'm talking about New Orleans.
Andy Holloway
Oh yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying.
Mike Wright
Where considering that they came out with a 70 yard. The game started with a 70 yard touchdown pass.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Mike Wright
And then I think Green Bay ended the game with 22 points or something like that. So that I think that's decently bold. My running back. I am. I'm taking him. He's gonna shut it down with his last chance. I think this is his last chance to be the main feature back. Brandon Oliver, San Diego Chargers. Now I'm going with him last week was average for him. 13 for 36 on the ground, 7 for 27 in the air. I'm going with this. I want, I like San Diego to bounce back. They lost. Right. Am I remembering that you're. Am I on the right week?
Andy Holloway
Correct. Yeah.
Mike Wright
And Miami just gave 100 yards to Denard freaking Robinson. Are you kidding me?
Andy Holloway
Two weeks in a row for him.
Mike Wright
I know Miami had some linebacker issues, but if Denard Robinson can do that, then Brandon Oliver, by golly, he better have a decent too good game.
Andy Holloway
I like it. I like it. I'm going Alfred Morris at Minnesota.
Mike Wright
Who? He looked 50% good yesterday.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think the play actions back a little bit in Washington with Colt McCoy, who is the quarterback. Whether it's McCoy or whether it's Griffin, you have a guy that can move a little bit more.
Mike Wright
You left out Cousins.
Andy Holloway
I did on purpose.
Mike Wright
He's not coming back.
Andy Holloway
No, he's not coming back. Captain Brutal. I saw him grinning on the sideline with that win yesterday. I was like, oh, my goodness. But yeah, Minnesota is 26 versus the run. I just think Morris is a talented running back that is probably the one suffering the most from the quarterback carousel right now. So I think this is an opportunity for him to break out. So if you have him, I'd start him.
Mike Wright
Wide receiver. I am taking the aforementioned Allen Robinson.
Andy Holloway
You are an Allen Robinson fan.
Mike Wright
There's his targets. Man, I love the targets.
Andy Holloway
You like the ball being thrown in the general direction.
Mike Wright
And the Jaguars are playing the Bengals, who have really been lousy.
Andy Holloway
I'm impressed if he has a good game.
Mike Wright
I admit this one's a bit bolder, but I really do think I am. I have a couple spots where I have him and I'm choosing to play him over some more conservative plays. I'm going to go Alan Robinson because I think he has a big week against.
Andy Holloway
Go for the glory. I'm going with Andrew Hawkins. This guy's been playing great. Double digits in his last three games. Going up against the worst passing defense in football in Tampa Bay.
Mike Wright
That's for Tampa Bay.
Andy Holloway
That's for Tampa Bay. They're awful and he's there. He's the go to guy for them when they need a big first down. When they throw a screen pass. Andrew Hawkins is the guy. And you know, I'm not gonna argue with production. I think he's a good start this week. I think people have been afraid to start him.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Andy Holloway
But I like him this week.
Mike Wright
So Jordan Cameron Yeah. Jordan Cameron will not be there. Tight end. I'm going with Zeus.
Andy Holloway
Travis Zeus is that they call him.
Mike Wright
That's what Evan Silva calls him. And I agree. If you look at him, it's good. Who was robbed?
Andy Holloway
Have you said his name yet?
Mike Wright
Travis Kelsey.
Andy Holloway
You do that a lot. Sometimes you think that you're. You already said it.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
You start talking about him.
Mike Wright
He was robbed of a touchdown last week. And I know this specifically because I played against a Jamal Charles. Owner. Kelsey got in and Reed called the timeout because he wanted to look at the play more. But for some reason he called the timeout instead of just calling a challenge.
Andy Holloway
Did he challenge it?
Mike Wright
No, he ended up not doing it.
Andy Holloway
Sounds like Andy Reid.
Mike Wright
Yeah. He was too cowardly to do it. I don't know why you would do.
Andy Holloway
It because he knew that Charles would just get in the next play.
Mike Wright
But that hosed me big time. But so I'm taking Travis Kelsey.
Andy Holloway
Bitterness is kind of the overarching theme for you. A lot of your feelings towards these guys get a little bit marked by how they defeated you.
Mike Wright
In fantasy of the week, the listeners, if you don't know me personally, I talk at length about my RAF problem.
Andy Holloway
You have an RAF problem.
Mike Wright
And that means I have a resting angry face.
Andy Holloway
You look like you're an angry, angry man.
Mike Wright
Where I will be sitting, I could actually be in a very pleasant mood, but apparently because of my face, I just look angry all the time.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah. You. Your first impressions? You know, angry.
Mike Wright
So a lot of things come out. They appear to be angry, but they are. I am not an angry person. I am like Santa Clara. Yeah, please like me. But anyway, so why am I taking Kelsey? The jets have allowed a touchdown in five of eight games to the tight end and four of those were multi touchdown games.
Andy Holloway
Boom.
Mike Wright
So I'm taking Kelsey.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Nice start. I have Tim Wright. I'm going bold again. Watch him get inactive. No, Tim Wright, the.
Mike Wright
He scored height in score.
Andy Holloway
The tight end for New England. Three out of the last four games. He scored a td. More targets are going his way. Denver can't cover tight ends. This game is going to be a.
Mike Wright
It should be.
Andy Holloway
It should be a fantasy bonanza. If I don't know what the over under is in Vegas on this game, but it's got to be a lot of points because. And I think a guy like Tim Wright can benefit from coverage rolling Gronkowski's way.
Mike Wright
I just noticed our defensive starts of the week are playing each other.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I know. I know that. I Saw yours.
Mike Wright
So I'm going with Washington and my.
Andy Holloway
Reasoning, I think both of these are good starts.
Mike Wright
By the way, my reasoning for going with Washington and they actually played. I thought they played very well. They did yesterday against the Cowboys.
Andy Holloway
Knows what he's doing.
Mike Wright
But the overarching theme of I'm starting Washington because Minnesota stinks.
Andy Holloway
That's a good reason. It's ironic because my D is the Vikings D and the overarching reason is because Washington stinks.
Mike Wright
This is really hard to me they're.
Andy Holloway
Two really bad offenses that are probably going to throw interceptions. A third string and a second string quarterback, a rookie quarterback and a Colt.
Mike Wright
What's the over under of defensive touchdown scored?
Andy Holloway
Oh my gosh. It's like two. It's like two. Yeah. So if you got Washington or Minnesota, I'm fine starting both of those defenses. So any other thoughts?
Mike Wright
No. Let's move it along. The fantasy footballers versus the world. All right, we take on the world here. We we go through five start sit questions and we check them out on fantasypros.com, which you can. They have a start sit feature where you type in the names of the players and they will tell you what the expert consensus is of who you should play. You can tell the fancy pro system. I have a standard half PPR or full PPR system. So whatever you need, they got it. So I go on there.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, this is always fun.
Mike Wright
And I do my best to pick what I think should be tough questions, difficult to answer questions. So we're going to start it off with Mark Ingram or Ahmad Bradshaw. Mark Ingram is playing the Panthers and Bradshaw is playing the Giants.
Andy Holloway
This is a tough one for me. I lean on the Bradshaw side now.
Mike Wright
I can, I absolutely can see that. I'm going to. Especially if the other two, two characters in the running back committee of the Saints are not playing. I would tend to lean Mark Ingram just because. Although Sean Payton will screw me because he'll say, hey, Travis Cadet, let's get you some carries, buddy.
Andy Holloway
No, I, I can see both. I, I can see both guys winning this matchup pretty easily.
Mike Wright
Do you got to know it?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Andy Holloway
Interesting.
Mike Wright
The Experts have spoken. 63% are going Mark Ingram.
Andy Holloway
That's true. However, just for the record, if you flip that over to PPR, 89% like Ahmad Bradshaw.
Mike Wright
Whoa. Let's split the difference and go half point ppr.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
And it is still overwhelmingly for Bradshaw.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So if I say that and check that because you know, doesn't catch any passes. So if you're in a half ppr. PPR league, Bradshaw's your guy because he catches everything Luck throws out of the backfield.
Mike Wright
All right, question number two versus the world. Torrey Smith versus Pittsburgh or Andre Holmes versus the the lusterless Seattle defense?
Andy Holloway
I don't know. This is a horrible question. This is a tough, pretty bad one Tori Smith had.
Mike Wright
Although.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I'll just take Tory Smith and Tori Smith.
Mike Wright
Pittsburgh, I know, has allowed their bottom five, I think, in the league of allowing pass plays of over 20 yards. Holmes had a garbage touchdown last week, and Seattle did hold the Carolina passing game in check. Yeah, I got a lean Torrey Smith. Both of these games are on the road, but because Oakland is going to Seattle, I will lean Torrey Smith.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And we are. You know, didn't Tory Smith get banged up? Didn't he get banged up? That's overwhelmingly affecting this.
Mike Wright
That's possible because he put up a goose egg. Yeah. Was it because of a concussion? Do we not talk about this?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, I just. He's undergoing concussion tests right now, so I think that's impacting this. I think this is a terrible decision that you made to compare these two guys.
Mike Wright
I forgot completely that Torrey Smith had gotten that concussion.
Andy Holloway
So the overarching consensus on fantasypros.com, their start sit feature is Andre Holmes, and that is because of the hesitation with Torrey Smith. If these guys are both healthy, I think Tori Smith probably wins that. But you never know because he's my man.
Mike Wright
Mike Clay still going. Tori Smith, though.
Andy Holloway
There you go.
Mike Wright
That makes me feel good.
Andy Holloway
Shout out to Mike Clay.
Mike Wright
He should listen to our podcast.
Andy Holloway
He should tweet the fantasy footballers. Oh, there you go.
Mike Wright
If we ran our Twitter.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, we ran our Twitter.
Mike Wright
Gotta get that thing going.
Andy Holloway
Next one. Mike Wallace versus the Chargers or Alfred Morris versus Minnesota. And obviously, I'm gonna go off Morris. He's my start of the week.
Mike Wright
Yes. And this. So this is a flex question, and I usually like to have a running back in my flex because I know he's guaranteed to get some carries. Minnesota. I don't like Minnesota's defense very much, but I think they're actually. They're serviceable. And the I'm man.
Andy Holloway
Make a choice. I'm gonna make a choice.
Mike Wright
Okay. Wallace. I'm gonna take Wallace to have a bounce back week.
Andy Holloway
Wallace is the consensus choice. 67% to Mike Wallace over Alfred Morris.
Mike Wright
Not. Not seen on the podcast. Was me fist pumping. Fist saluting. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
What do you call it, like, pulling the fist pump? By definition, you're literally.
Mike Wright
No, because a pump is out.
Andy Holloway
So what are you, like. You're like.
Mike Wright
I'm pulling a diesel horn, right?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. You look like you're on a. You're a train engineer. Mike Wallace takes the cake there. Here's another flex question for you, Kelvin. Big man Benjamin or Brandon Oliver?
Mike Wright
No, I specifically.
Andy Holloway
The big one.
Mike Wright
From the Phoenix Suns.
Andy Holloway
No, just Oliver Miller. Last name's Oliver.
Mike Wright
Specifically did this because I have habitually.
Andy Holloway
I thought you're gonna say because you have this decision in your league and you needed some help.
Mike Wright
No, say because I by accident, always end up putting my start of the week in the. In the versus the world section.
Andy Holloway
So you did it on purpose this time?
Mike Wright
I did it on purpose because I did a running back versus a wide receiver who I also like very much.
Andy Holloway
There you go. Who are you taking?
Mike Wright
Am I. Am I. I think I'm fraudulent if I don't take Brandon Oliver.
Andy Holloway
This one's not even close.
Mike Wright
Really?
Andy Holloway
No. And for me, it was Calvin Benjamin, and then I looked it up, so I should have said it first, but I was too eager. Calvin Benjamin, 81%.
Mike Wright
Ooh. Say. I was gonna say I. If this was my choice of Benjamin versus Oliver going in my flex, I would want to lean Kelvin Benjamin just because the match is so good.
Andy Holloway
Brandon Oliver.
Mike Wright
But I'm going to start with my. Keep up. My start of the week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Let's go through this last one here on Fantasy Footballers versus the World and see what we get.
Mike Wright
We got Terrence Williams versus Arizona or Andre Johnson versus Philadelphia.
Andy Holloway
For me, this is pretty tough. Pretty close. I bet it ends up close. On fantasypros.com I take Andre Johnson.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So Andre Johnson probably gets more targets. The seeing when I was grabbing this, I wasn't really factoring in the Romo injury, but.
Andy Holloway
Well, neither are they, so they're not.
Mike Wright
It's not in there.
Andy Holloway
I don't think that they're really factoring that in.
Mike Wright
Okay. Well, either way, I would actually. I'm gonna take the. I'm gonna go with the star and take Andre Johnson. Even though Terrence Williams has been a touchdown machine, I'm still gonna take Andre Johnson against Philadelphia.
Andy Holloway
What's your prediction on that, on the percentage?
Mike Wright
Well, judging from your reaction, I think it's probably pretty high. So I'm gonna. Andre Johnson, 78%.
Andy Holloway
No, not even close. Terrence Williams, 58%.
Mike Wright
Whoa.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's the. Arizona has given up so many yards that I think that people Are leaning on that side. So interesting. That is Fantasy Footballers versus the World.
Mike Wright
Mailbag.
Andy Holloway
It's that time. It's that time. Send in your questions to the fantasy footballersmail.com start sick questions, trade questions, anything you got us.
Mike Wright
Hygiene questions.
Andy Holloway
You get priority on your question being answered if you use a funny name. Yeah, because it's our show.
Mike Wright
It's our show. We don't like regular names. So let's get to the questions we have. Barry. What? This is ridiculous. Barry.
Andy Holloway
I don't even know what he means. Is that Bobo or Boo Boo?
Mike Wright
Barry. Bobo. Oh, so hairy. It's like a little nursery rhyme. He has a. He has a start. Sit question. He wants to know, would you go Doug Baldwin or. Or Brandon LaFell?
Andy Holloway
Doug Baldwin or Brandon?
Mike Wright
So Doug Baldwin against Oakland and Brandon lefell against Denver.
Andy Holloway
Yes, I am going to go Doug Baldwin. I am a big Doug Baldwin fan in this offense. I think that the matchup is great. Baldwin's going against Oakland. Baldwin is the number one. He led the team in targets again last week. And since Percy's been gone, I like him. And I think lefail takes a step back because Brady takes what's given to him. And so sometimes it's going to be LaFell, sometimes it's going to be Edelman, who only had one catch in that monster game. So for me, it's Doug Baldwin. Do you think Barry. Oh.
Mike Wright
So, Harry, do you think Doug Baldwin sits in the Seattle locker room and sings that Kelly Clarkson song about Percy Harvin? He's like, I get all the targets.
Andy Holloway
I. You know, he's the. Three or four years ago he was relevant and then all of a sudden he's relevant again.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I like, but.
Andy Holloway
I like, but I take Baldwin, I.
Mike Wright
Take Brandon Little fell in this match.
Andy Holloway
Oh, we didn't help you at all, Harry. There you go.
Mike Wright
Well, no, we did because we got. I got the link. We can go check the. What a fantasy pros have to say about this.
Andy Holloway
Oh, dear.
Mike Wright
I do not know the answer, by the way. I just grabbed the link and I threw it in there. Brandon lefell is. I like the shootout.
Andy Holloway
It's LA foul. Because you know what? These experts, they just ride the wave too quickly. Dr. Bob. Dr. Bob has a defensive streaming question. He's looking at Indy versus the Giants, the Chargers versus the Dolphins, or Washington versus Minnesota. And I think I know what we're both going to say on this.
Mike Wright
I'm taking Washington.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, me too. They're just.
Mike Wright
Minnesota stinks.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
And this is a fact.
Andy Holloway
Giants are coming Off a buy, and you never know what to expect. Not against Indianapolis, but they're not coming off of. By against them. Yeah, they're coming off a buy against it.
Mike Wright
I'm saying I'm not playing a defense against Indianapolis.
Andy Holloway
No, it's Indies D against the Giants.
Mike Wright
Oh, I read that backwards.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. But either way, I'm still gonna go.
Mike Wright
With Washington because Minnesota stinks.
Andy Holloway
All right, what's the next one?
Mike Wright
This is a treat for us as a show.
Andy Holloway
I pulled it up.
Mike Wright
Now, I couldn't believe that he rode in. One, that he. That he's a listener. Two, that he would. Would have the. The self awareness to even ask our opinion on this. But Cam Newton wrote into the show the. Yeah, it's Cam Newton. He sent a picture of him opening his imaginary Superman shirt to prove that it was him.
Andy Holloway
What did he want to know? Did he want to know?
Mike Wright
He said fantasy. He want. He had a question of, should I start myself Cam Newton against the Saints, or should I start Eli Manning against the Colts?
Andy Holloway
Well, clearly you start yourself because you're my start of the week, Cam, and I believe in you. And I think the rest of the world's gonna believe in you, too, Cam Newton. Absolutely, undoubtedly, unquestionably. 100 out of 100 times.
Mike Wright
I'm starting Eli Manning.
Andy Holloway
Well, you're in the 8% because the number on fantasypros.com is 92 to 8, my friend.
Mike Wright
That's fine.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Well, you know what? If you're starting Eli Manning, you'd water bet me on that.
Mike Wright
Would I? What's the bet? Lay out the terms fantasy points in our league.
Andy Holloway
Cam Newton vs. Eli Manning this week.
Mike Wright
Let's do it.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Mike Wright
Put it on otter.
Andy Holloway
Bet on the board. Have we even. Have we done any of those on this show?
Mike Wright
We have not.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Mike and I have a tradition where if we are diametrically opposed on a fantasy opinion, we will have what's called a water bet. And that equates to the loser getting doused with water in a humorous. In a humorous fashion. We have a wheel of water here that we spin, and sometimes that means the water gets poured in your pockets. Sometimes it means it gets splashed on your head.
Mike Wright
Sometimes it means the crotch.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Sometimes it's. It's wet down under, so.
Mike Wright
But. Yeah, so I will.
Andy Holloway
Cam Newton versus Eli Manning. Yeah, I'll take that way all the way. Let's go to this next one.
Mike Wright
Question four from Cordon Jamron.
Andy Holloway
This is my favorite one so far. Gordon Jamron.
Mike Wright
I assume that's a mixture of Jordan Cameron and Cameron Jordan.
Andy Holloway
No, that's what Jordan Cameron's name is after he gets concussed.
Mike Wright
That's from.
Andy Holloway
That is Cordon Jamron.
Mike Wright
That would be a great test for him after the hit.
Andy Holloway
What's your name? What's your name?
Mike Wright
Are you Jordan Cameron? Are you Cameron Jordan?
Andy Holloway
No. No, you just said Cameron Jordan, not Cordon Jamron.
Mike Wright
Well, I'm saying they ask. They ask Jordan Cameron after he gets hit, are you Jordan Cameron or Cameron Jordan?
Andy Holloway
And he says.
Mike Wright
That'S what I mean. So he had a waiver question. Should I pick up Gennard Robinson, Andrew Hawkins or Brandon lefell?
Andy Holloway
For me, knowing nothing about his team whatsoever, it's in that order. It's Denard Robinson, it's Andrew Hawkins. It's Brandon Lefell.
Mike Wright
Now for me it is.
Andy Holloway
I just.
Mike Wright
I understand that Denard has done it two weeks in a row. I just. Something about me still will not.
Andy Holloway
You want to know what that is? That's your hatred for the running game there because you had Toby Gerhardt drafted in the second round this year.
Mike Wright
We got to qualify that. It's the second round of a keeper draft. So don't make me sound like a bunch of people are rolling.
Andy Holloway
They're going, what am I listening to? Yeah, that's good.
Mike Wright
Second round equates to a fifth round pick of our.
Andy Holloway
Somewhere around there.
Mike Wright
Thank you. But I just.
Andy Holloway
A bad pick now, I suppose. And then it was a bad pick then too.
Mike Wright
It was a great pick back then.
Andy Holloway
My gosh.
Mike Wright
I have those guys in the inverse order. I'm going to go Lafel, Hawkins, Denard, because I'm just not buying Dennard.
Andy Holloway
So we both have Hawkins, but you're selling Denard. You know, you never have been a fan of 100 yard games from running backs.
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Mike Wright
I have not.
Andy Holloway
Fifth and final question for the mailbag section. If you have your own question, go ahead and mail it in. You can also visit us on facebook@www.facebook.com. the fantasy football guys. That's right. Right. That's the right address. The fantasy football. The folk. What did I say? The fantasy football guys.
Mike Wright
You just pubbed another show.
Andy Holloway
The fantasy footballers.
Mike Wright
You're a Benedict Arnold.
Andy Holloway
Can you cut that?
Mike Wright
What just happened, happened.
Andy Holloway
I was talking too fast.
Mike Wright
Do you have news for me? Are you leaving?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I'm on the way out. I registered the wrong address for us. No, if you go to facebook.com thefantasyfootballers you can post a question there during the week and we'll answer it before your Start happens on Sunday. The last question is from Triple T, Thomas.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's like Triple H, but it's a Triple T. Yes.
Andy Holloway
Start question. I'll let you handle this one before we wrap up.
Mike Wright
Who should I start? ODB versus the Colts, Brandon Cooks versus the Panthers or Keenan Allen versus the Dolphins? Now to. After we answer this, I have set up a system of check and fantasy pros.
Andy Holloway
That's funny for their.
Mike Wright
Just two players. Start. Sit.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I. I take Keenan Allen here. I'm going to go.
Mike Wright
Even though you're back on.
Andy Holloway
I'm not back on, but I'm taking somebody that I feel. I mean, ODB is starting now, but he started a game.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
Cooks is not a starter or he's not a starter. As far as. What is it? Colston Stills, he's in the slot. I just. I just lean. Keenan Allen here with Cooks second and ODB third.
Mike Wright
I actually 100% agree with, unfortunately.
Andy Holloway
Someone take a picture.
Mike Wright
I have agreed with what you said I would go. Keenan Allen, Cooks, then ODB.
Andy Holloway
Now, fantasy pros experts have Keenan Allen 83% over Odell Beckham Jr.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
And then Brandon Cooks versus Keenan Allen. They have Keenan Allen 83%.
Mike Wright
Okay. So clearly Kenan Allen's the number one.
Andy Holloway
Keenan Allen's the number one. And then Brandon Cooks versus Odell Beckham. They have cooked 71%. So yeah, we aligned with the experts.
Mike Wright
On that one because we are experts.
Andy Holloway
For the fantasy footballers. That is our name. You can check us out on itunes. Do you have any concluding thoughts, my friend?
Mike Wright
This is a memo to Andy Reid. Don't be afraid to throw a challenge flag. Yeah, there's. There's fantasy players who depend on you.
Andy Holloway
Yes, this is true. All right, well, that's it for the fantasy footballers. I am Andy.
Mike Wright
I am Mike.
Andy Holloway
And we are out of here.
Mike Wright
I was just trying to think what else. I probably owe Ty Hilton an apology.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he's. He's on pace for a big time, big time year. 1700 plus yards right now.
Mike Wright
Ty. Mr. Mr. T. Mr. Ty.
Andy Holloway
Mr. Ty. Mr.
Mike Wright
I'm sorry that I.
Andy Holloway
You are good. You are really good.
Mike Wright
I'm sorry I doubted your speed and your ability to have good catches and your touchdown dance still sucks. So let's get rid of that and then I'll jump on your bandwagon.
Andy Holloway
There you go.
Mike Wright
It's just obnoxious. I don't know why it bothers me so much.
Andy Holloway
I don't know why either. He's really good.
Mike Wright
But that's it for me.
Andy Holloway
See you later.
Mike Wright
Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast (Week 8/9)
Release Date: October 28, 2014
Hosts: Andy Holloway & Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
In the Week 8/9 episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Mike Wright dive into the latest happenings in the world of Fantasy Football. They kick off the show by discussing the looming NFL trade deadline and contrasting the flurry of Fantasy Football trades with the relatively quiet NFL activity.
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Andy and Mike take a moment to highlight positive feedback from their listeners, showcasing appreciation for their insightful analysis and entertaining delivery.
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The hosts delve into the latest NFL news impacting Fantasy Football:
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A segment dedicated to players outperforming their typical fantasy expectations (“Stud Muffins”). Andy and Mike analyze standout performances:
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Andy and Mike review their previous week's start recommendations, assessing their successes and shortcomings:
Mike's Picks:
Andy’s Picks:
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A comparative analysis between Andy and Mike’s start recommendations and the expert consensus from FantasyPros.com:
Mark Ingram vs. Ahmad Bradshaw
Torrey Smith vs. Andre Holmes
Mike Wallace vs. Brandon Oliver
Calvin Benjamin vs. Brandon Oliver
Terrence Williams vs. Andre Johnson
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Andy and Mike tackle listener-submitted questions, offering personalized advice on start/sit decisions, player comparisons, and trade dilemmas.
Question 1 (Barry): Doug Baldwin vs. Brandon LaFell
Question 2 (Gordon Jamron): Andre Holmes vs. Torrey Smith
Question 3 (No specific name): Start Owens vs. Cooks vs. Keenan Allen
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In closing, Andy and Mike reflect on the week's discussions, reiterate the importance of strategic waiver wire pickups, and encourage listeners to engage via mailbag questions and social media for ongoing Fantasy Football success.
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This episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast offers a comprehensive analysis of Week 8/9 Fantasy Football strategies, player performances, and insightful comparisons with expert consensus. Hosts Andy Holloway and Mike Wright blend expert advice with humor, making it a valuable resource for Fantasy Football enthusiasts aiming to optimize their teams and navigate the complexities of the game.