Fantasy Time Machine + Credit, Blame, and Brown Spots - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/21

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Fantasy Time Machine + Credit, Blame, and Brown Spots
Release Date: August 21, 2020
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Introduction

In the August 21, 2020 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright embark on their signature segment, the Fantasy Time Machine, where they project breakout players for the upcoming fantasy football season. Alongside this, they delve into current news, player updates, and offer strategic insights to help listeners optimize their fantasy rosters.

Fantasy Time Machine: Projecting Breakout Candidates

The Fantasy Time Machine segment is the highlight of this episode, with the trio analyzing potential breakout players for the 2020 season, drawing parallels to past successes to forecast future performances.

Calvin Ridley as the Next Chris Godwin Jason Moore identifies Calvin Ridley as his top breakout candidate, likening his potential to that of Chris Godwin from the previous year.

Jason Moore [27:25]: “If you look back at last year, his second year, the first part of that season, he wasn't... then he actually saw Ridley have a lot of fantasy success towards the end of the year.”

Andy Holloway concurs, emphasizing Ridley's increasing involvement and end-zone prowess.

Andy Holloway [28:14]: “I think Calvin Ridley is the most clear example of a player that could do that...”

Will Fuller vs. Brandon Cooks Andy introduces Will Fuller as a prime candidate for a breakout, highlighting his rapport with DeSean Watson and his role in the Houston offense.

Andy Holloway [28:47]: “I think Will Fuller is the best with the most rapport built in...”

However, Jason brings a counterpoint, advocating for Brandon Cooks based on his consistent performance, despite Will Fuller’s injury concerns.

Jason Moore [30:51]: “But, like, if you have a chance to get a part of that offense...”

Mark Andrews and Breakout Tight Ends The discussion shifts to tight ends, with Andy and Jason exploring candidates who could emulate Mark Andrews' breakout performance.

Andy Holloway [36:01]: “... Hayden Hurst is desperately needed without Austin Hooper...”

Jason suggests Hayden Hurst from the Falcons as a potential Mark Andrews equivalent, given his role in the offense and opportunity for targets.

Jason Moore [37:15]: “He came in heavier, stronger, new trainer... he's been a player that has gone out there and he is such a difference maker for Houston.”

Mike Wright introduces Johnny Smith from the Tennessee Titans as another breakout tight end prospect, noting his ability to avoid tackles and make significant plays.

Mike Wright [41:47]: “Johnny Smith... he's the number one overall fantasy wide receiver... His average yards after catch…”

News and Notes: Player Updates and Team Developments

The hosts transition to the News and Notes segment, providing listeners with the latest updates from training camps and player statuses.

Injury Reports and Player Concerns Andy discusses Tyreek Hill's minor hamstring strain and its implications for fantasy managers.

Andy Holloway [12:52]: “Tyreek Hill diagnosed with a minor hamstring strain...”

The conversation then turns to the Denver Broncos' running backs, Melvin Gordon and Philip Lindsay, debating their roles and injury concerns.

Andy Holloway [15:01]: “Melvin Gordon had to be pulled from practice early yesterday...”

Jason raises concerns about the Patriots' quarterback competition, questioning whether Cam Newton will maintain his starting role over Jared Stidham.

Jason Moore [19:58]: “I would be so blown away if Jared Stidham wins the job.”

Coaching Changes and Health Updates Andy shares the significant news of Washington's head coach Ron Rivera being diagnosed with lymph node cancer, ensuring listeners that Rivera plans to remain in his position.

Andy Holloway [22:10]: “Washington football team coach Ron Rivera announced yesterday he's been diagnosed with a form of lymph node cancer.”

Quick Question of the Day: Credit Without Blame

In this interactive segment, each host names a player they wish to credit for their performance without bearing any blame if things go awry.

• Jason Moore champions Jerry Jeudy, expressing unwavering faith in his talent despite uncertainties.

  Jason Moore [09:12]: “I want credit because I believe in Jerry Jeudy...”

• Andy Holloway points to AJ Green and Will Fuller, hoping their consistent excellence continues.

  Andy Holloway [10:05]: “A.J. Green and Will Fuller...”

• Mike Wright selects Sterling Shepard, anticipating his rise despite the presence of more prominent receivers on his team.

  Mike Wright [10:55]: “I think that the overall feeling... I think that Golden Tate...”

Best Ball Breakdown: Strategies for Underdog Fantasy

Sponsored by Underdog Fantasy, the hosts discuss strategies specific to best ball leagues. Mike Wright emphasizes the importance of drafting elite tight ends early to gain a positional advantage, which can free up valuable draft slots for other key positions.

Mike Wright [35:50]: “... drafting an elite tight end in best ball in the second round pick...”

Jason Moore adds that in best ball formats, investing early in a stud tight end can pay dividends, as these players not only anchor the tight end position but also offer flexibility in the flex spots.

Jason Moore [56:14]: “... you're drafting a tight end and or a flex when you invest early...”

Andy promotes the Underdog Fantasy platform, encouraging listeners to participate in their best ball mania for a chance to win prizes.

Andy Holloway [54:02]: “... go sign up underdogfantasy.com...”

Conclusion and Community Engagement

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts remind listeners about their live stream event, giveaways, and encourage engagement through social media platforms.

Jason Moore [57:11]: “Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.”

Notable Quotes

• Jason Moore [27:25]: “If you look back at last year... Calvin Ridley have a lot of fantasy success towards the end of the year.”
• Andy Holloway [28:14]: “I think Calvin Ridley is the most clear example of a player that could do that...”
• Mike Wright [35:50]: “... drafting an elite tight end in best ball in the second round pick...”

Final Thoughts

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast offers a deep dive into potential fantasy football breakout players, enriched by insightful analysis and strategic advice. Whether you're a seasoned manager or new to the fantasy realm, the hosts provide valuable perspectives to enhance your draft strategy and in-season management.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Great Scott.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

I've been to the future and those.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wr.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, welcome in. My calculations are correct. It's Friday.

[Jason Moore]

It's one word, Andy, one word.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, great Scott. Welcome in.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, great friend of the show, Doc Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not even the actor, it's Doc Brown, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Doc Brown's the good friend of the show's friend.

[Jason Moore]

Good buddy.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, it's Friday, August 21st. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Excited to be with you. We are entering the time machine today and I really like this show, I like this episode because everybody, last year's fresh on your mind. You have all the breakout candidates and we're going to take time today to look at those players and who we project is maybe taking on those roles for this upcoming year. And thankfully we have the ability to travel to the future and see that. So these are just stone cold locks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, fantastic news.

[Andy Holloway]

From what I understand, last year we did okay on the time machine. We had.

[Mike Wright]

Of course we did because we were in a time machine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we, we tried to go to the future and find the. George Kittle found Mark Andrews. Oh, that was the projection last year.

[Mike Wright]

Excellent.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason tried to go to the future and find the 2018 Robert woods for 2019.

[Jason Moore]

I found him.

[Andy Holloway]

He went with Robert Woods.

[Jason Moore]

It was Robert woods again because he's. Guess who the 2020 Robert woods is going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you took an easier route. Like that one is genetically true, but.

[Jason Moore]

It was also Fantasy true and will be again. Please draft your Robert Woods.

[Andy Holloway]

And Mike was trying to find the 2019 version of Nick Chubb running back that came along swiftly back half of the year. Well, with Devin Singletary who really had a nice, nice finish to the year. So it's proven we can travel into the future now. We had a fun time yesterday on the My guys episode. Hopefully you, hopefully you caught the Blake out and the Drake out. So it was fun. You can find us on YouTube and watch that episode, the Jake out. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Friday. I'll take it. Yeah, the Josh Jake out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's Friday. You are getting C grade material at best.

[Andy Holloway]

It also means something else.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Are we really?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you see that whole thing, we thought we might, but then we realized it might just be a big racket. I mean, they. You got to pay an application fee, I think. I don't think there's any limit on the amount of world records that can exist. So what if someone comes along and.

[Mike Wright]

What if we had a piece of paper from Guinness?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be pretty.

[Mike Wright]

We have a world record.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we're gonna pursue it. Yeah, we'll pay the money, but no, you can Support [e-mail], get into the Megalo bowl tournament right now. And we are giving away today on foot Climb Friday a signed Keenan Allen jersey.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Whoa.

[Mike Wright]

Congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is a person or a team? Could be a team of people. You can use the code [e-mail] Get $10 off your first item signed Keenan Allen jersey. Congratulations, Bannertown Fruit Bats. You can follow the show on twitter @the ff ballers. I recommend that you do find us on Instagram instagram.com fantasy footballers and appreciate everybody that is leaving the show. A review on Apple Podcasts, subscribing on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you're listening. Thank you very much. We are right in the thick of it. You can feel the energy for the season.

[Jason Moore]

You really can. I mean, you know, it was a little slower starting this year with kind of the nebulous unknown and the call.

[Mike Wright]

AAA to get in here. Jumpstart the car.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Need a locksmith. You know, break in, break back in. But now the floodgates are open. Friends and family and, you know, co workers of yours, our coworkers have been into fantasy for quite some time now, are all flooding back in. And the conversations are starting. The draft talk, the messages on Twitter, on Instagram. It's wonderful.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason's especially excited because he received an invite from yours truly to get into the family league that last year I set up a father son league and we had some people in it from the foot clan, last minute thing. My two sons learned how to play fantasy last year. So first year they came and said I wanted to learn, so they. They jumped in and Jason's got his whole family in it.

[Jason Moore]

I am very excited because for the first time ever, my family is starting up in fantasy. And the idea of, like, if my boys actually love it because I'll never force them to, but if we could just chat Fantasy football day, that'd be awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

I know that's what you say you're excited about, but I expected the words out of your mouth to be the idea that I could take advantage of my two sons in a trade and really load my roster. That's what I thought you were going to say.

[Jason Moore]

That will be year two. That will. Year two. I will. You're setting the table.

[Mike Wright]

Training wheels off, boys.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. Daddy has let go of the bike seats. You're going to fall. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

And what you said your youngest son really into. He wants Lamar Jackson right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Got him into the ultimate draft kit and he saw that he had the most points, so he's like, he's. He's telling everybody I want Lamar Jackson. Okay. I gave him a little warning about.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's the funny thing. My son drafted Aaron Rodgers in the first round last year, and it was like, hey, I just let him. I let him go. I let him go. Let him. He got the ultimate draft kit and that's. Somehow he knew that name and he won the league. All right, quick question of the day. We did My guys yesterday. I wanted to throw this at the end of the My guys episode. We ran out of time, so I wanted it as the quick question today. My guys, those players are put up on a pedestal. They're associated with you. If things go south, you know, ultimately, it may or may not reflect on you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I get it. I get it. I deserve it. I get it. I deserve it.

[Andy Holloway]

But, yeah, I mean, and I took Dante Pettis away from my. My guys And I still every 13 seconds get a tweet about Dante Pettis. But today's quick question. Name a player that you want credit for, but no blame. Okay. So you can take a different kind of, a different kind of pick here because maybe you're picking somebody a little bit more risky.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You want credit, no blame.

[Jason Moore]

I do want credit because I believe in Jerry Judy. I wanted to make him my, my guy, I think a world class.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't know it got that serious for you with Jerry Judy.

[Jason Moore]

It did. I think he's a world class wide receiver. I've been waiting for him for a couple of years. Just watching the film, being like, this guy is better than NFL wide receivers. That was two years ago. Now right off the bat in camp, he's torching guys, everybody. The defenders are like, this guy is for real. And honestly, if it wasn't for this kind of weird, shortened offseason where I just don't know how much you, you can trust the beginning of the year. For any rookies not named Clyde Edwards Allaire, I might have picked him. But, you know, I think it could be tough sledding. I don't know about Drew Locke. There are so many ways it goes wrong. But I want my name associated with Jerry Judy because I do believe in the talent 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

I will throw two injury plagued wide receivers out there. A.J. green and Will Fuller. Those are two players that I believe in. We'll talk about Will Fuller a little bit later on the show today. But no, I don't want the punch in the face when AJ Green goes down during the year. And yet I want the credit if he does well because I still believe that we have never seen AJ Green anything less than spectacular on a football field. And so, yeah, I want credit. No blame. Jay. No, no, no, no blame.

[Jason Moore]

This is a good practice. This is cathartic and awesome. This is a good practice for everyone. You at home figure out who you and claim it. You should, you should tweet it and say, this is the guy I want full credit for if he does well. But please, like, no, no blame if he doesn't. Everyone should get one. Or in Andy's case, two.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, who's the player?

[Mike Wright]

I get three.

[Jason Moore]

There are no rules. It's a Friday.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go with one. And because he was nowhere near a my guy, but you've heard me talk about him several times on this show and I get the guff. I get the guff from my co hosts here. I'm talking about the Yak king up in New York. I will talk Golden Tate. Look, someone from the New York Giants in the wide receiver core is going to make fantasy noise and everyone is picking and choosing who they, they think it is. I think that the, the overall feeling of the, the industry is it'll be Sterling Shepard. Shepard's a great wide receiver. I just, I still trust in Golden Tate and his ability to get it done. So that's my, that's my free pass.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know, Mike, I don't blame you for it.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Right now on this show, I can't blame you.

[Mike Wright]

You can't blame me in the future either.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's true. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

The whole point of the segment, that's true.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we are moving on to news and notes. A lot has been happening around training camp. Before we do that, we are doing a live stream. We are answering your questions. This afternoon, we're having a party. We are going to be with you for Quite some at 6 Eastern and we are giving away an ultimate draft kit for life plus an Alvin Camara signed jersey. We're doing that today. I'm very excited. Everybody's, everybody's ready to go for this season. And what's better than winning a UDK for life? Nothing. Nothing is better.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. And all who pre ordered are entered.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Ultimate Draft Kit.com youm got to get the Ultimate Draft Kit for 2020 before the end of that live stream to be eligible to win. If you already have it, you're eligible to win.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Great news.

[Andy Holloway]

Great news.

[Mike Wright]

You're in.

[Andy Holloway]

My calculations are correct.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Every bit of news brings a little joy, a little hype, a little terror to fantasy football players. Yesterday, Tyreek Hill diagnosed with a minor hamstring strain. He will go towards the team by team quota. You must have at least five players with hamstring strains right now or the league will remove your team.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's a matter of how fast are you. If you're really fast, then you hurt your hamstrings.

[Andy Holloway]

Obligatory like AJ Green, huh?

[Jason Moore]

Or how old. There are two ways. There are two ways you can hurt yourself.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you almost walked into a compliment there. Be careful.

[Jason Moore]

That was dangerous. You know, I don't think we should be worried. So this is true about how I view it and tell me if this is wrong or foolhardy because or if it's just hypocritical. The way that I look at some of these little hamstring tweaks is ageist when it's A younger guy, I feel like their ability to bounce back and be healthy and be fine is. It doesn't worry me at all. DeAndre Hopkins tweaks his. Tweaked his hamstring. Tyreek Hill tweaked his hamstring. And I'm not worried. Whereas I am worried about AJ Green and Ty Hilton. Same exact problem. And I'm not treating them all the same. Do you think that is wise or foolish?

[Mike Wright]

I think it's the correct. The correct decision to make. You got to be worried about a guy who's a little bit older. I know right now if I tweak my hamstring, I'm out for months. Months.

[Andy Holloway]

Years. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You might possibly get.

[Mike Wright]

I may never rip up to a hundred.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think. I think the age plays a big role. If Julio Jones went down with a hamstring right now, I'd be concerned. Even though he's been on the field now for three, four years, pretty consistently, it still lingers. The concern lingers. But I think teams are also being smarter. I think teams are just getting these guys, no preseason games. No reason to go wild with them. Let them recover. Sammy Watkins hasn't practiced in several days. He's got a groin injury. Yeah, that's not good. And he is just always banged up and hurt and dealing with injuries.

[Mike Wright]

Come on, Sammy.

[Andy Holloway]

Melvin Gordon had to be pulled from practice early yesterday. There is more to this Melvin Gordon talk that I want to bring up. He tweaked his ribs, so they pulled him out. Doesn't know the severity. That's head coach Vic Fangio. Melvin Gordon. There was also some other beat reporters talking about Philip Lindsay and Melvin Gordon. And you know, at least the rhetoric out of the mouths of the Detroit or the Denver coaching staff is these guys both deserve to be looked at as the number one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think the quote was talking about how no one, we don't need to name a starter because they are both starters to our team, which is.

[Jason Moore]

Yikes.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, absolutely. And this is how I've been looking at this situation. And this. I guess I'm coming off a little Jason Tooty over here, but Melvin Gordon is a fine player. Philip Lindsay, though, back to back 1000 yard rushing seasons, like he is a good player. Just because you're able to get Melvin Gordon on a. On a reasonable contract. I mean, it's. Melvin Gordon made some money. You didn't have to really overpay the veteran. They're both going to be used on the field, which is. It's troubling. For fantasy. I still believe Melvin Gordon is the far more likely guy to get the goal line carries. So that that's.

[Andy Holloway]

And he'll get, he'll get all the third down. Philip Lindsay graded out terribly in pass protection last year and Gordon has experience there.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's. It actually concerns me.

[Jason Moore]

It should.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it concerns me because I have a choice in my draft of going Melvin Gordon with the, you know, a late third round pick or I can go someplace like David Montgomery, who has more opportunities to himself. 275 plus opportunities in that offense. We haven't seen Gordon in Denver. It does concern me a little bit. He. Gordon does have a way to, you know, even if they're splitting time, like you said, if he's catching the ball and he's scoring, he'll deliver on his adp. But now he's banged up.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's one of those true like coach speak moments where you have to decide, do you believe. Because I was not where Mike is right now, I was believing that the money they gave him and the fact that they, you know, had been trying but unsuccessfully to have the running game that they wanted and they go out and they sign Melvin Gordon to be the guy and then. And then Philip Lindsay will be relegated to a backup who is used. But, you know, not an equal opportunity here between, you know, these two guys and this coach Speak says no, it's. They're both going to be utilized.

[Andy Holloway]

But do you believe the coach? Because.

[Jason Moore]

And that's the question. And I do. And when you combine that kind of talk at the same time that Melvin Gordon misses, you know, reps right now and is injured and Philip Lindsay is running with the ones. I think that helps seal that coach speak into place.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a very popular thing to do though, as a head coach.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Is not separate somebody not tell Philip Lindsay he's a two. Not tell Michael Gallup he's a two. Don't go telling Tevin Coleman he's a two. This is why label. We don't need labels. That's kind of a. Because why would you demotivate Lindsay? I mean that. It doesn't do you any favors.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

The fact though that Philip Lindsay is in fact very good at football and like he was good enough that he came in off the street, not drafted and beat out a third round pick. He beat out Royce Freeman, who, you know, Division 1 Pac 12, one of the all time leading rushers in college football, drafted to be their guy. Philip Lindsay was. He outplayed him and he took the job. So to say to me, to think that Melvin Gordon is just going to come in and get 60, 65% of the work, I don't. That's far too high for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Philip Lindsay was the number 19 overall fantasy running back last year year. Jared Stidham battling discomfort in his leg. So he wasn't at practice today at his Patriots quarterback that we don't consider to be real competition for Cam Newton's.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's had the interception problems as well. If you've been following the beat reporters, it's. I'm not sure why they are taking so long up in New England. I mean they have access to information that we don't. But to me it's. If Cam Newton's going to be the guy and lead your offense, you better, you better just tell him he's the starting quarterback and start getting to work. Of your starting quarterback. Is getting all the first team work?

[Andy Holloway]

Is the fact they're not doing that indicative of more of a competition than we think?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's at least a little bit more of a competition. I, I have no doubt that Cam Newton is going to win out. Do you guys have any concern with the, the length that this quarterback competition is going that maybe Jared Stidham does win the job?

[Jason Moore]

I would be so blown away if Jared Stidham wins the job. I can't even imagine that outside of Cam going down to a new injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'll say this. If Jared Situm's a better quarterback will win the job. Unlike other teams that may feel a loyalty to Cam Newton's name and pedigree.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

New England has more. They're going to put the better player out on the field.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with you. I think you and I just said the same thing though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you could be right. But we don't know. We don't know with Cam right now. But we all agree that we're stating Cam to be the starter. Where are we with Justin Jefferson right now? In camp he seems to be quote, the clear number three option. You have B.C. johnson, you've got Tajay Sharp added to the offense.

[Mike Wright]

We are all over the place with the Minnesota Vikings rookie wide receiver because the athletic who they were the ones that had the report that said it's between Jefferson and B.C. then there was another athletic report at least reported by Rotoworld saying he's running with the second team offense in. So as I, I don't know where to go with Justin Jefferson if I'm taking a draft chance on a rookie wide receiver for redraft. It's not going to be Justin Jefferson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's where I'm at right off the bat. When camp started, he was running with the Twos. He's still been with the Twos. That's not to be unexpected in a shortened season. He's still a rookie coming in. But when you combine that with them, talking about, oh, we're trying to maybe we're seeing if Irv Smith can turn up outside, like, you know, they're looking for a solution. They're not assuming it's Justin Jefferson. And that leads me to believe, look, if Justin Jefferson has a phenomenal career and is a great fantasy option, it's not going to be in the first half of his rookie season. It's just not happening. So he's pretty much off my redraft boards. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The other side of the coin is he's competing with Tajie Sharp and BZ Johnson to get opportunities. So cream rises. Sure. Well, I mean, but it might take.

[Jason Moore]

AJ Brown was competing with Tajie Sharp and it took him half a season.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't disagree that it'll take time, but I believe it will happen.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Washington football team coach Ron Rivera announced yesterday he's been diagnosed with a form of lymph node cancer. Very treatable and curable. Going to stay the head coach. Going to stay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's coaching. The current plan is Rivera will keep his job. They've Washington's reported there is a backup option in place should Rivera need to take some time off. But get after it, Ron.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Get healthy. Go after that championship. And listen, foot clan, if you are going after your championship, we want to make sure you know where to get all of your glorious. Your hardware that you can shove in people's faces. And I don't mean that that's violent. I don't mean that literally. Because like those championship rings, if you put that on and you shove that in someone's face, you go to jail. Because these things are like brass knuckles. They're beautiful and they're huge. You got to stop short of the punch, but you got to make sure that you're putting it in their face.

[Mike Wright]

I have no idea where you're going on.

[Andy Holloway]

This one is on a ride, man.

[Mike Wright]

Where we're going, we don't need r.

[Jason Moore]

Listen, ain't no road if you're a champ, if you're going to be a champ, if you've got a league, there will Be a champ.

[Andy Holloway]

Trophies, rings, belts.

[Jason Moore]

Trophies, rings, belts. Fantasy champs is where you get your hardware. And here's the thing, my favorite personal free ring, the thing I like the best. Goodness. Is the championship ring. That's my favorite. All right.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we're back.

[Jason Moore]

If I was to buy something, it would be a championship ring. Those are 60 bucks. Right now they're doing a deal where if you buy a trophy or a belt, you get a free championship ring. So why not have both? It's a great deal. You use the code free ring at checkout and you receive a $60 ring for free. With the purchase of a trophy or a belt, go to fantasychamps.com I get mine for free.

[Andy Holloway]

When Jason's putting it up in my face, when he holds that ring, I just take it off his finger. That's how I get mine.

[Jason Moore]

You should really wear all of mine for the shows.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that'd be great.

[Mike Wright]

Jon Gruden style.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, man.

[Jason Moore]

Marty, you've got to come back with me.

[Mike Wright]

Where?

[Jason Moore]

Back to the future.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's some wind chimes.

[Andy Holloway]

I forgot. It's been a year since I've heard that drop. It's so good.

[Mike Wright]

As Jason was eloquently completing the read for Fantasy Champs, I mean, that was the best read of all time. We were getting to the point of this segment, and in my head, I went, holy crap, did I forget to do a drop for this segment? What is our transition going to be? And guess what? I. I made one.

[Jason Moore]

You crushed it.

[Mike Wright]

I went to the future or went to the past.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Bill and Ted style brought it back. I said, I got to remember to make a drop. And then it just appeared.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, this was a live show last year on our Fantasy for the People tour, and we're bringing it back for 2020, and we're on the hunt. We want to find the 2020 version of a few players. Last year, Chris Godwin broke out. He was a wide receiver outside the first three rounds, he was a wide receiver perceived as the number two on his team behind Mike Evans, a wide receiver that ended up with loads of targets last year and has that contested catch ability. And he also had a quarterback in Jameis Winston that was willing to go full. I don't care. On the passing attempts.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So Jameis was what, 30? 30 for 30?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I believe that's correct.

[Andy Holloway]

5,100 passing yards. So when we look towards 2020, who is this year's Chris Godwin for you?

[Jason Moore]

For me, I think there's a pretty obvious archetype out there, it's another wide receiver who was drafted high who looked so many flashes of brilliance in his first couple of years, but had not truly broken out. And now it's coming into year three with all the stars aligned. That is, you know, the Chris Gardwin archetype for me is Calvin Ridley this season. Calvin Ridley, if you look back at last year, his second year, the first part of that season, he wasn't. His snap counts were in the 50, 60%. There was a change that happened over the course of that season where he got more involved. And all of a sudden you actually saw Ridley have a lot of fantasy success towards the end of the year. He's 80%, 89%, 80, 85, 94%. He became the guy that got rid of Mohammed Sanu. That opened things up for him during that stretch. I don't know if you realize this from weeks five through the rest of his season, because he didn't play after week 15 with an abdominal injury. He was the wide receiver 11. He was already a wide receiver one. And you also have the other side of the field, right, which is Chris Godwin had Mike Evans. Right. It just seemed impossible.

[Mike Wright]

It was an impossibility.

[Jason Moore]

It was an impossibility that coming into this year, you could say Chris Godwin will be the guy drafted over Mike Evans. And, you know, next year, if we come in and say that Calvin Ridley is being drafted ahead of Julio Jones, that sounds blasphemous. It sounds wrong. But I think that could be the case. You have a guy in Calvin Ridley who has already shown great flashes, especially around the end zone. I mean, he had 10 touchdowns his rookie year, seven touchdowns in only 13 games last season. So you have the between the 20s numbers that he's. He's great at. And then if he actually splashes in the end zone, making up for Julio, that's where you have true fantasy success.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think Calvin Ridley is the most clear example of a player that could do that. I mean, the parallels are similar and the hype is similar. I mean, it wasn't like we weren't coming into last year with Chris Godwin hype, and we're coming into this season with. With tremendous Calvin Ridley hype. And so. But I think he can pay off on that hype. And it's still hard for people to take him in the place that he belongs. Just like last year. No one would take Godwin in the place that he belongs in fantasy drafts. And if you took him, it paid off. So I think Ridley has a great Chance of doing that, no doubt. I'm going to go with Will Fuller here.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Will Fuller is a. I think we've talked about it. Mike, you brought it up as one of the most nebulous situations because everybody on Houston feels like a maybe yet. You know, Sean Watson is going to be great and you know that somebody has to fill the gaping target vacuum void of DeAndre Hopkins, and I think it will be Will Fuller. The struggle for Will Fuller has always been the injury concern and it remains to be until he proves otherwise. If you listen to him talk coming into the season, you listen to the way DeSean Watson's talking about him, which again, that's just speculative. But he came in heavier, stronger, new trainer, and he's done a lot to change the way he at least is trying to work on the injury problem. He talked about his mechanics and how he's rebuilt them, how he's got a different posture in the way he runs because these are things that could have been leading to the lower leg type of injuries. He's also on a fifth year option this year. And so he's playing for that cheddar and he's been a player that has gone out there and he is such a difference maker for Houston when he's been on the field over the last four seasons, they score almost six points a game more than when he's off. He's. When we've seen that too. Like they are just a better team with Will Fuller on the field. So many targets available in Houston, but He's got the 20 missed games out of like 48 career games that he could have played. And that's been the big problem. But he's not being drafted. I mean, he's a seventh round pick because people don't know who to decide between. In my opinion, he's the best with the most rapport built in. Obviously with desean Watson, he's who I'm banking on. I've put this in play in my dynasty league. I went out and actively pursued Will Fuller looking for the breakout. So, you know, we've, we've had, we've had Rule 86 before. Yeah, it's. It's the same with Will fuller in Rule 15 or whatever number he wears because he, when he's on the field, he has DeSean Watson's eye.

[Jason Moore]

So I can attest that Andy has certainly become a Will Fuller believer. He has been making those trade offers and trying to get him. He believes in him. I do want to argue for the other side, though. Because I feel like when you look at Will Fuller, here's a guy that has not been able to do it for a. He's not been able to have great fantasy success outside of monstrous games. Whereas Brandon Cooks has just been a superstar every year of his career until this past year, when injury derailed him. And he was the wide receiver 62. But before that, and this is for all sorts of different teams and quarterbacks, he was the wide receiver 14, 9, 12, 13, dealt with a bunch of concussion issues, and he was not on the field that much last year and was a huge disappointment. But, like, if I have to bank on one of these guys, because someone. I think we all. We are all in agreement, someone's going to score a lot of fantasy points for Deshaun Watson. He's not going to, you know, just get blown out in games and not come back. And I feel like both of these guys carry injury risk, but one of them has a much better proven track record. Sure. Although he is new to the team, whereas Fuller has the report. That would be the argument to me on the Fuller side.

[Mike Wright]

That's where I give the edge to Will Fuller. So I'm going to bring my this year's.

[Jason Moore]

Chris.

[Mike Wright]

God. When I want to read you guys a couple numbers real quick, I want you to tell me who the number one wide receiver is from these numbers. Okay? Player A averaged eight targets, 4.7 receptions and 79 yards a game. Okay. Player B averaged 7.4 targets a game, 4.9 receptions and 74 yards a game. Who's the number one wide receiver out of those two guys?

[Andy Holloway]

I know this. I know the trap that's being set. I know. I see the palm fronds laid over the hole. I see you holding some Hostess apple pies on the other side of the trap and trying to.

[Mike Wright]

You're avoiding the punji pit very well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And that's Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper. And I'm not saying that you. The reason I bring those numbers up is because those numbers don't dictate that one of those guys is a number one wide receiver for the team. You look and go, that's. That's the same picture. Those are the. Those guys are putting up very equal production. The difference is one of those guys is making $100 million, as in is an early draft pick, and Michael Gallup is. He's being drafted in the seventh, the eighth round. Michael Gallup was actually in strong consideration for my guys this year. I don't want to leave a draft without him now it brings me like he couldn't be a my guy because I'm all in on the Blake out, Blake Jarwin and I'm not going dub Cowboys and my guys. I'm not, I don't want that type of pain inside of my body. But Michael Gallup at wide receiver 32 is absolutely ridiculous. He, he would have been getting the, the, the, the Calvin Ridley bump that he probably. He broke out last year over 1100 yards in 14 games. And he would have been that guy, that wide receiver too, who's going to make the next step. But they drafted CD Lamb and I get that. I get it. CD Lamb is an excellent wide receiver. He's an excellent rookie prospect, but he's a rookie prospect. Meanwhile, Michael Gallup is going into his third year and is a proven NFL wide receiver. I'm not allowing a first round wide receiver to take all of the shine, all of the sparkle off of what Michael Gallup has been able to do.

[Andy Holloway]

I would say that he's a perfect candidate for this Fantasy Time machine segment as a perceived wide receiver too. I would also say that while those that comparison and the trap you craft fully laid. That's not a word. Was nice. Michael Gallup had a very incredible week 17 where he's the number one overall fantasy wide receiver. He also scored half of his entire season's worth of touchdowns in the final game of the year, which, you know, we talk about how that affects your perception on the whole year. He was not as consistent as Amari Cooper and he did not have any stretches anywhere close to what Amari Cooper had put up. But he was a great wide receiver. I mean I, coming out of college, I was a big Michael Gallup fan. I think he's a great player. I think his seventh round draft cost is indicative of the perception that the $100 million man is the only wide receiver that matters in Dallas, which is not the case at all. So I like him as a candidate to be able to step forward. Being drafted as the wide receiver 32 a year after he had a, an incredible, you know what, number 22 overall last year, that's a CD Lamb downgrade. That's not fair.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Looking at how back into the time.

[Mike Wright]

Machine am I.

[Andy Holloway]

We'Ve always enjoyed. Scott. We're going to find 2020's Mark Andrews, which is I think the most fun thing to do every off season, try to find that breakout tight end. Last year you had Mark Andrews, you had Darren Waller the year before George Kittle, you know Just broke out. And really it's somebody that has to be drafted late. It has to be somebody after the eighth round. Like Mark Andrews was not a rookie tight end because they generally just don't produce. They're not going to have that breakout season. Maybe it's a tight end in an under the radar offense. Not everybody saw Baltimore doing what they did last year.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, nobody saw that.

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody saw Baltimore doing that because it was unprecedented.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe a tight end that flashes some yards after the catch capabilities that's always nice to see and somebody that's going to soak up a large percentage of the market share for an offense the way Kelsey and Waller and Andrews and Kittle do. So what are some candidates for a 2020 version of Mark Andrews?

[Jason Moore]

I think there are so, so many late round guys that we haven't even brought up. Ian Thomas could fit this bill.

[Mike Wright]

The postman, Dan Arnold.

[Jason Moore]

That's what you get when you mess with the postman. There are so many great options. But if I have to look at who I think will break out and you know, he's been in the league a couple years, hasn't got it done, now has an opportunity to really have a ton of usage. I'm going back to the Falcons. It's Hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst was a first round draft pick in the NFL ahead of Mark Andrews. He was drafted that way because he's a talented fellow. But Mark Andrews is better. I mean, Mark Andrews dominated and won that job and they shipped Hayden Hurst off. But Hayden Hurst is desperately needed without Austin Hooper and Matt Ryan has always utilized his tight end. I mean, we forget how dominant Austin Hooper was as a tight end through the beginning of the year before he got injured. He was the tight end one by a wide margin. This is while Julio is going off. This is while, you know, I talked about from week five on that Calvin Ridley was the wide receiver. 11. In fact, once they got Calvin Ridley more involved, you saw the three of them and Matt Ryan really start to catch fire. Weeks five and six, when Matt Ryan put back to back weeks of being the quarterback two and then he got injured the following week, it kind of derailed that. Then Austin Hooper got injured. You know, we've talked a little bit about Matt Ryan in his rubber band. You know, first year, second year with a coordinator. I think the Falcons offense could really, really explode this year. And the opportunity for Hayden Hurst to come in and fill that Austin Hooper role, the amount of vacated targets and utilization, and if you look at the depth chart, there's nobody here that's going to eat into Hayden Hurst's role. So he's, you know, he's near the eighth round and I think if I'm looking at a late round guy and I have to take a probability check, I don't see how Hayden Hurst doesn't score a lot of fantasy points. They just don't have. I'm not Russell Gage is not going to come in here and take all the targets away from the tight end position. I'm not worried about that. And coming into the NFL, I did like him as a prospect. So it takes a couple of years for a tight end to break out. There's a lot of markers that say he's going to get a lot of work. And I don't think that Hooper was anything special. I think he was a perfect fit for the role. And Hearst is a very similar prospect to Austin Hooper.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Hurst at least has the athletic profile to be able to do that. I mean, Matt Ryan muddled through. I think Austin Hooper deserves some credit and some respect. Levine, Toy, Lolo and those that came after Tony Gonzalez couldn't become what Hooper was. But Hurst has the profile to do it. He's also in the offense. When we talk about that offense that, you know, could at least be in the upper echelon, that's the one major concern with my potential 2020. Mark Andrews wanted to make him a my guy. Too scary. Chris Herndon. Chris Herndon.

[Mike Wright]

Why is it scary to make the starting tight end for the jets of.

[Andy Holloway]

My guy Andy, because of his head coach. I've got a little drop I'm going to try out for oh for his head coach. Ready?

[Jason Moore]

Number two. Oh, yes. Oh baby.

[Andy Holloway]

I can hear Al Borland from across the studio. Are you a big fan, Al? Do you approve? You approve that message?

[Jason Moore]

I had no idea where you were.

[Andy Holloway]

Going, but I love it.

[Jason Moore]

Number two. Oh man.

[Andy Holloway]

So there is a bit of a number two problem and I, you know, but we're talking under the radar offensive capabilities. Do you believe in Sam Darnold?

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

The necessary argument Jason just made for Hayden Hurst. Chris Herndon is the quintessential post type sleeper tight end candidate. Over 500 receiving yards in his rookie season. Had a stretch of games where he was very fantasy relevant in his rookie season. Very hard to do for a tight end last year. You throw it out, it's gone. Drawing rave reviews at camp. Also very, very necessary. Jameson Crowder cannot carry this offense. Rashad Perryman, he's not going to carry this offense. And Sam Darnold has, you know, a rapport with Chris Herndon. I think he has great upside ability. So I'm going to go with Chris Herndon to break out.

[Mike Wright]

All right. And you, you all know I like Blake Jarwin as a breakout tight end. I also like this guy.

[Andy Holloway]

I had no idea, but go on.

[Mike Wright]

I like this guy as a, as a breakout tight end and he's more of a Mark Andrews type of a player to me. Where Andrew's got it done. Low volume efficiency, just being Mark Mandrews like out there, just dominating with huge. With huge touchdown plays. I want to bring up. Thank you. I want to bring up Johnny Smith, starting tight end from the Tennessee Titans. And here's the first number I want to go to is avoided tackles. So last year Travis Kelsey was number two in avoided tackles. He avoided 15 tackles on 97 receptions. Jonah Smith, number three, he avoided 14 tackles, 35 receptions. The dude is elusive. The dude is super strong. He was second in average yards after catch. Like he is a Mark Andrews type of player. And the Tennessee Titans are a Baltimore Ravens type of an offense. It runs through, they want to slow it down, win with defense. And Smith won't have high volume, but he will when he touches the ball. Big things are going to happen. So if he can really remove himself from the shadow of Delaney Walker who was just a stalwart for the Tennessee Titans offense for years, which. And Delaney Walker is now gone. It's Smith's job. I think that, I think that Jonu can come through as a, as a potential breakout guy. Low volume but big twice.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And that was what we saw last year. The games that he was fantasy relevant were games he scored in. He had three touchdowns last year. All three of those weeks he was the top 12 tight end. You know, he's been in the league a little bit of time, sure. But he's moved forward in fantasy finish each and every year as well. Definitely fits the big play role. One more fantasy time machine for you. We also have some best ball we're going to get into 2020's Devonte Parker. Oh my. Late round dart throw, good luck type of pick. Younger but been in the league for a little while. Surprise everyone in the fantasy space to the point where you know, there wasn't anybody who once Devontae Parker had a good game, started him the next week and then he had a good game and then he got started the next week. It was wait, is this real? Like the mirage for three or four weeks before you had to finally believe it. So what do you guys think who's, who's the 20, 20 dart throw? And I'm going to throw that out. Dart throw at the wide receiver position coming out of nowhere.

[Jason Moore]

For me, the name that seemed obvious was Prashad Perryman. You know, he's, I like it. He was, he was drafted to be great just like devonte Parker was first round pick. He was not great just like devonte Parker was. And then as the years went on, he was known to be not great. Just. Yeah, this guy is washed. He's never going to become anything. And then all of a sudden there's a flash of brilliance. And it took a couple injuries to superstars Mike Evans and Chris Godwin last year, but when he was given that opportunity, Bashad Behrman just caught fire the last month. And you. I mean, I don't believe it. I still don't believe it. Like, I don't hear what I'm not saying. I think it was a mirage.

[Andy Holloway]

I heard you believed it.

[Jason Moore]

I heard it was, I think it was a mirage. What we saw, and here's what we saw the last month of the season. Last year he was the wide receiver two for fantasy. And it wasn't, you know, sometimes you have that in a month stretch, it's because someone had some singular, dominating, unfathomably good game. But Jason, yes, voice of public opinion number two. Yes, there is a brown spot on, on this tape. Oh, no, there is certainly a stain here. And, and yeah, Adam Gase is an issue, but the reality is I don't think anybody looked last year at the Dolphins offense. And yeah, there was a problem.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a brown spot, there was persisting from year to year.

[Jason Moore]

Right. It was one of those things where the offense looked bad, the quarterback situation looked bad, but it became about, well, there's nowhere else to go with the ball. Preston Williams went down, Gasicki was there. It was basically those, those three players. Well, if you look at the jets, it's very similar. I mean, you brought up Chris Herndon. Okay, maybe he's the guy, maybe he's Gasicki. Like you've got Jameson Crowder who's, you know, short yardage close to the line. Maybe that's the great William, but so.

[Andy Holloway]

Different than Brashad and Brashad Perryman, the.

[Jason Moore]

Downfield option, if Sam Darnold just starts, you know, chucking it deep, it's going to be to Perryman and maybe he breaks out. And when that does, like if that happens for a couple of weeks, I will believe it earlier than I Did last year with Devontae Parker.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think, out of curiosity, do you think jets fans are happy that we've picked two jets in this fantasy time machine section or unhappy because I've hit that drop three times.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I think they are neither number two.

[Andy Holloway]

Four times.

[Jason Moore]

They're.

[Mike Wright]

They're realistic people.

[Jason Moore]

They probably. Here's right, here's what they're saying when we're picking these. Here's what their answers. Nope. Rashad Peregrine, not happening. Chris Herndon, he's a Jet. We know what it's like to be pessimistic about our home team. But the reality is a lot of times these bad situations, especially these nebulous ones, where you don't know where the value is going to come, those are where the breakouts come from. Precisely because it's a murky situation.

[Andy Holloway]

I. When we got into the show, doc, today and we were putting in our projections here, I went to put Bershad Perryman in and Jason had won the prize of Rashad Perryman. I think that's the best answer. It just fits the bill so much the player that you given up on like Devonte Parker, became a laughingstock, broke out. I think that's the right answer. But I have a. I have a suggestion. What if it was.

[Jason Moore]

I want to hear it.

[Andy Holloway]

What if it was Dante Pettis? Yeah, look, you forget Dante Pettis's draft pedigree. I mean, second round pick, second round.

[Mike Wright]

Pick had had some breakout games toward the end of his rookie season. Lost the favor of his. Of his coach. But they are dealing with some injuries over there.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't talk about him too much because I open myself up to potential litigation. But what if it was? I mean, the camp reports on Dante Pettish are positive right now.

[Mike Wright]

It would be great.

[Jason Moore]

It would be awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not going to be, though. Probably not.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, we're talking in the world of low probability right now. This is a time machine.

[Andy Holloway]

Just remember, nobody believed in Devonte Parker at the beginning of last year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if we had brought that name up, it would have been laughed at. And that's why we bring up Rashad Perryman and Dante Pettis.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, who do you think? Oh, my.

[Mike Wright]

I'm bringing up a player who has also been in the league for quite some time. I was trying to go, you know, like a little really more literal with the comparison of the players where Parker had been in forever and had really not done much. This player has. He's got a little bit more on his resume than Devonte Parker had coming into this year. But no one's expecting anything from the lizard king, Sammy Watkins. Oh, blooded. Look, I get it.

[Andy Holloway]

I ran the spell check on this show, Doc, and it said. Did you mean McColl Hardman?

[Mike Wright]

I get it. But he just, it's hard to quit the Lizard Man. He, he just put that up. When you, when you have completely given up on Sammy Watkins, as we finally did, it looked like the Kansas City Chiefs had finally given up on Sammy Watkins after the week one explosion. He goes into the playoffs and he's like the most productive player on the team through that stretch of games. Sammy Watkins was a huge reason why Kansas City was able to win the Super Bowl. He helped with the comebacks early on and it's, it's wild. It's a wild place we live in where I'm trying to endorse Sammy Watkins again.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Sammy Watkins has always had the 37 bullet points of why he should be great.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

There's never been a time now, I mean, he's got the best quarterback in football. He's the number two on the best offense in football. He has always had the reasons why it should happen and he has always deceived us.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Well, it's, it's. I mean, the blood type, he can, he can change there. He can't change the temperature of his body, so he has to just go with the flow. The reasons are there. Like you said, the bullet point is there. He's best offensive football. He was willing to take less money to come back to the team. Once again, wow. This whole segment is about a time machine. I will. I'm going to be honest with the listeners at home where you've been to the future. No, I don't actually have a time machine. If I did, I would not be using it for these purposes.

[Jason Moore]

Here's.

[Mike Wright]

I'd be living large.

[Jason Moore]

Here's my friend. Here's the reality. Last year, you know, we Talked about the 2019 version of George Kidd, Robert Woods, Nick Chubb. The only issue with this trying to pick the next Devonte Parker is that those don't happen every year. The Devonte Parker. I went back to 2018, 27, trying to find these guys who have been in the league a long time and then finally broke out and they were uns. You know, they were, they were totally surprising. And, you know, there's always a late tight end that breaks out or, you know, an undervalued wide receiver. I do believe that our answers here are really in line with what could happen. I mean, Prashad, Perryman, Sammy Watkins, even Dante Pettis. They do fit the bill of what Devonte Parker is and did and what could happen. But I would say the probabilities that there is a devonte Parker low this season is probably very low.

[Andy Holloway]

Well said. Also, how many consecutive weeks does Sammy Watkins have to give fantasy football managers before you start him? Before the the boy who cried wolf situation?

[Mike Wright]

I want to make a joke and say eight, but honestly, two. If you got two strong games to open, you would be playing Sammy Walkins. I would be advising you to play Sammy Watkins.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the.

[Mike Wright]

He's heating up.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the Chiefs effect too. If you have a chance to get a part of that offense and just.

[Mike Wright]

To, you know, help out producer judge Giamatti. Brooks wants people to know his pick would be New York Giants Sterling Shepard. He's always had a soft spot in his heart for the Shepherd.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, four years. Is this his fifth year now? Same as Parker.

[Jason Moore]

That's actually a really good pick. The only reason I don't think it applies is because coming into last year, Devonte Parker sucked. And I think most people look at Sterling shepherd and say he's a really good wide receiver just as he's been.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's been solid.

[Andy Holloway]

He is an 11th round pick at least.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, certainly draft wise, value wise. I do like throwing that name out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think people look at him as like maybe we've seen the best of Sterling Shepherd. So that would be a situation where maybe with a fully healthy year, we have it.

[Jason Moore]

I like it. I like it. Thanks for the addition.

[Andy Holloway]

Not a lot. All right, let's do some basketball.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

I know we had the time machine drop, but that drops really good too.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

It is a ton of fun. And on Underdog Fantasy, look, they've got the best ball. Mania for a chance at a million dollars in prizes. Underdogfantasy.com Go sign up or you can download it on the app Store the tip I want to give today. It's short and sweet. I feel like I've been talking about these, my strategy of going after these tight ends a little bit more. But drafting an elite tight end in best ball in the second round pick. I know there's a, there's an opportunity cost of going in on Travis Kelsey or George Kittle. And for this tip, I'm even going to include the other two guys, Mark Andrews and Zach Ertz. The thing about using an early pick on one of these guys, one, I mean, you know, you know what they're going to do. They're going to give you a positional advantage at the tight end position. But it opens up things for an opportunity cost later on in your draft. If I draft Travis Kelsey, I'm drafting one backup tight end. You got to fill up this roster with a whole bunch of players. I'm taking my Blake jar when I'm taking Chris Herndon.

[Andy Holloway]

You're saying you're basically by investing in an elite advantage at tight end, you're buying a roster spot.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I am buying a draft pick later on that I can take a chance on another running back sleep or another wide receiver sleep. Jerry Judy instead of. Yeah, Jerry Judy. Perfect. Instead of having to spend three of my draft picks on tight ends who I'm hoping one of them comes through, I think that it is pretty wise to invest early a draft pick on Travis Kelsey or one of those top four guys.

[Jason Moore]

I love grabbing one of those four guys. The one thing I will say that is in addition is that let's say someone falls in, you know, in value and you, you do see a third tight end. You want one of the nice things that's different than a redraft league because you're never going to take this tight end that you know has maybe a low probability of scoring. So you're never going to take them and plug them in your flex. But if these guys hit, they also can go into your flex spot.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

So you're, you know, you're drafting a tight end and or a flex when you invest early. Whereas in a redraft league, you're not really doing that. Even though your flex spot allows you to play a tiny. You're not going to do it because you would never know when. You don't have to know when in best ball. I love grabbing a stud tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Next week. Oh, let's get into it. See you next week. Or see in a couple hours. Either way, goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

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