Final MOCK DRAFT of 2020 + New Nicknames Emerge - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/28

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - Final MOCK DRAFT of 2020 + New Nicknames Emerge

Release Date: August 28, 2020

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Introduction to the Final Mock Draft

In this episode titled "Final MOCK DRAFT of 2020 + New Nicknames Emerge", the expert trio of Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright dive into their eagerly anticipated final mock draft of the 2020 fantasy football season. The hosts set the stage for an engaging and strategic drafting session, infused with their trademark humor and camaraderie.

Nicknames and Team Dynamics

The episode kicks off with a playful exchange about new nicknames for the hosts, highlighting the camaraderie and light-heartedness that define the Fantasy Footballers' dynamic.

• Jason Moore earns the nickname "Big Shimmy" after showcasing a memorable dance move:

  Jason Moore (00:43): "That's why they call him the Big Shimmy."

• Andy Holloway embraces his new moniker with enthusiasm:

  Andy Holloway (03:45): "It's shiny to me. So it's new. It's nice. And I can now have a power move. Give me that Big Shimmy."

The hosts laugh and banter over the nicknames, setting a fun tone for the mock draft ahead.

News and Updates from Around the League

Before diving into the mock draft, the hosts touch upon recent news affecting fantasy decisions:

• Philadelphia Eagles' Injury Update:

  Andy Holloway (08:12): "The Eagles placed left tackle Andre Dillard on injured reserve, torn biceps ending his season."

  This injury impacts fantasy considerations, particularly concerning running back options like Miles Sanders and Aaron Jones.

• Los Angeles Rams' Running Back Situation:

  Jason Moore (11:30): "Cam Akers could establish himself as a breakout star in the high-powered Rams offense."

• Jets' Acquisition of Caleb Blanchard:

  Mike Wright (12:07): "The Jets traded Caleb Blanche for a conditional draft pick to manage his move."

These updates provide valuable context for the upcoming draft, influencing players' strategies and selections.

The Final Mock Draft

The heart of the episode revolves around the trio conducting their live mock draft, pick by pick. They each select players based on their strategies, team needs, and league formats.

Draft Setup

• League Format: 12-team, half PPR
• Roster Positions: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 DEF, 5 Bench

First Round Selections

1. Jason Moore (Pick 1):
   Selects Christian McCaffrey, prioritizing an elite running back with high PPR upside:

   Jason Moore (14:37): "I'm just going to take this, this particular chance to actually draft Clyde Edwards Allaire."

2. Unknown Picks by Andy and Mike
   The transcript does not specify Andy's initial pick, but Mike indicates his selection at pick 4.

3. Mike Wright (Pick 4):
   Chooses Clyde Edwards-Helaire, aiming for a dynamic RB with breakout potential:

   Mike Wright (15:02): "I'm going to take Clyde Edwards A'lair in the fourth spot."

4. Andy Holloway (Pick 9):
   Selects Miles Sanders over alternatives like Aaron Jones and Nick Chubb:

   Andy Holloway (10:19): "I already was looking at, say Josh Jacobs and Miles Sanders as near equals where I didn't know who to draft."

Subsequent Rounds and Strategies

• Running Back Depth:
  The hosts prioritize securing strong RB options early, considering injury risks and performance consistency. For instance, Jason Moore leans towards Dalvin Cook, whereas Mike Wright balances between Clyde Edwards-Helaire and Kenyon Drake.

• Wide Receiver Focus:
  Late in the first round and into the second, the conversation shifts to WRs like DJ Chark, Tyreek Hill, and D.K. Metcalf. Mike Wright opts for Tyreek Hill despite the heavy run on RBs:

  Mike Wright (19:28): "I'm going Tyreek Hill. It's in the same tier."

• Tight End and Quarterback Considerations:
  Jason Moore and Andy Holloway discuss the value of early tight end picks versus waiting for depth later in the draft, balancing the need for elite TE options against the broader positional needs.

Humorous and Memorable Moments

Throughout the draft, the hosts intersperse their picks with humorous remarks and playful jabs:

• Nickname Banter:
  The exchange about Big Shimmy and the playful rebranding of Mike Wright adds levity:

  Mike Wright (03:54): "It's also a move... Take that, fantasy hit man."

• Mock Draft Mishaps:
  Jason Moore accidentally selecting D.K. Metcalf:

  Jason Moore (36:34): "That was. I was. I clicked on the player and I thought they would instantly move up to the top of the mock draft, but it didn't change the order of them."

Final Team Rosters

At the conclusion of the mock draft, the hosts recap their final team compositions:

• Andy Holloway:

  • RB: Christian McCaffrey, Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones
  • WR: Kenny Golladay, Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin, Jerry Judy, DeSean Jackson
  • QB: Lamar Jackson
  • TE: Noah Fant
  • DEF: New Orleans Saints

• Mike Wright:

  • QB: Drew Brees
  • RB: Josh Jacobs, Le'Veon Bell
  • WR: Tyreek Hill, Cooper Kupp
  • TE: Evan Engram
  • DEF: Los Angeles Chargers
  • Bench: AJ Green, Deontay Johnson, Zach Moss, Naim Hines, Justin Jackson

• Jason Moore:

  • QB: Cam Newton
  • RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Kenyon Drake, Chris Carson, Cam Akers, Antonio Gibson
  • WR: DJ Chark, DK Metcalf, Will Fuller, "The Flying V" (Tyler Boyd), Golden Tate, Jalen Rager
  • TE: Blake Jarwin

Best Ball Strategy Segment

After completing the mock draft, the hosts transition into a Best Ball Tips segment, focusing on the Pareto Principle (80/20 rule) and its application in best ball fantasy formats:

• 80/20 Rule in Best Ball:
  The hosts explain how 20% of players often contribute 80% of the team's success, emphasizing the importance of drafting high-impact, "difference-maker" players:

  Mike Wright (59:28): "When you're playing basketball you see this principle carried out in daily life."

• Risk vs. Reward:
  In best ball drafts, taking calculated risks on high-upside players can pay off, as the auto-optimized lineups maximize each player's potential:

  Jason Moore (61:02): "When you're talking about best ball, you're talking about risk in general."

Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes

The episode wraps up with a recap of the mock draft and anticipation for future content:

• Final Team Overviews:
  Each host shares their complete team roster, celebrating strategic picks and discussing potential strengths and weaknesses.

• Upcoming Shows:
  The hosts tease future episodes, including the "Fantasy MVP Show" and the "Bold Prediction Show", promising continued expert analysis and entertaining discussions.

• Community Engagement:
  Listeners are encouraged to join the Fantasy Footballers' community through their website and social media platforms, fostering a sense of camaraderie and shared passion for fantasy football.

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Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright (00:35): "Say goodbye to the talking heads of the Fantasy Football world and hello to The Fantasy Footballers."

• Jason Moore (03:35): "It's mock draft time. Yay."

• Andy Holloway (08:12): "The Eagles placed left tackle Andre Dillard on injured reserve, torn biceps ending his season."

• Jason Moore (14:37): "I'm just going to take this, this particular chance to actually draft Clyde Edwards a lair."

• Mike Wright (19:28): "I'm going Tyreek Hill. It's in the same tier."

• Jason Moore (36:34): "I clicked on the player and I thought they would instantly move up to the top of the mock draft, but it didn't change the order of them."

• Mike Wright (59:28): "When you're playing basketball you see this principle carried out in daily life."

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This episode offers a comprehensive and entertaining dive into the final mock draft of the 2020 fantasy football season, blending strategic insights with the hosts' unique personalities. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy manager or a newcomer, the Fantasy Footballers provide valuable takeaways to elevate your draft game.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

It's mock draft time. Yay.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey. Hey.

[Jason Moore]

Got a little shimmy out of Jason over here.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm jacked, man.

[Jason Moore]

Or a big shimmy, I should say.

[Mike Wright]

I was gonna say any shimmy from.

[Jason Moore]

Jason is a big shimmy. It's a big shimmy.

[Mike Wright]

That's why they call him the Big Shimmy.

[Jason Moore]

New nickname.

[Andy Holloway]

The Big Shim.

[Mike Wright]

The Big shimmy.

[Jason Moore]

Big Shimmy.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. Yeah, that was Shimmy, shimmy, Cocoa Pop. That was something. Not the way I like to start my mock drafts, to be honest, but welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

It wakes you up.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah, it does. It wakes you up. Andy, Mike and Jason, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. We welcome you into this Friday episode of the show. It is our final mock draft episode of the off season, so we are very excited. We're each picking in this mock draft, so we're not sharing a team. And I believe Mike is at pick four.

[Jason Moore]

That is correct.

[Mike Wright]

Jason is at pick one.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm starting it off. I'm not revealing who I'm going to take.

[Mike Wright]

The options are honestly endless. At your position.

[Jason Moore]

They are. They are infinite. And it's really chapping our hides that he's sitting on the 101 here and.

[Andy Holloway]

We, they want to know, but I'm not saying.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the big shimmy is chapping our hides. Right now, I'm at pick nine. I heard Judge Giamatti, big fan of the Big Shimmy nickname. Judge. Oh, I love it. You love it. Okay. Jason is. He's laughing, but he's also realizing what his future holds on Twitter.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, I've got thick skin, if you know what I mean.

[Mike Wright]

Now, you used to be. I mean, when you go way back. I just had somebody mention on YouTube. They saw the introduction on YouTube, which you can [e-mail] the fantasy footballer.

[Jason Moore]

Very nice.

[Mike Wright]

We are almost at 200,000 subscribers. A very arbitrary benchmark that means everything to us in this present moment.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

But they said, why are the Oreos in the intro? And that really is. We've distanced ourselves from your old Double Stuff nickname.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So what do you think of Big Shimmy?

[Andy Holloway]

Look, it's. It's shiny to me. So it's new. It's. It's nice. And I can. Now I've got a power move. I'm in. Give me that Big Shimmy.

[Jason Moore]

Yet. Not only is a name, it's also a signature move.

[Mike Wright]

It's also a move.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right.

[Jason Moore]

This is incredible. I'm envious.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And we can.

[Jason Moore]

If you didn't have it, I would be taking the name Big Shimmy. But it's too late.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's too late.

[Jason Moore]

It's already claimed.

[Andy Holloway]

Take that, fantasy hit man.

[Mike Wright]

You have a nickname that we can gift. We can gif your nickname.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, today is a bad day. Today.

[Mike Wright]

Was Double Stuff ever shiny.

[Andy Holloway]

Double Stuff was very matte. It was no shine on those cookies.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness. This is a special Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

Put. Clan Friday.

[Jason Moore]

It's like a. Oh, my gosh. It's like a smelling salt.

[Mike Wright]

I can't get over something being called very matte as opposed to shiny either. This is. This is good. It is Foot Clan Friday. That means our weekly giveaway to one of the many wonderful supporters [e-mail]. this week's item from pristineauction.com they're giving away. This is cool. Assigned Calvin Ridley jersey. And the winner is. Well, their name over on Patreon. Brave little stove.

[Jason Moore]

I see what you did here. This is a little. Seems like a play on the Brave little toaster.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably unrelated. Probably unrelated. This is a stove and it's not.

[Jason Moore]

The guys ever see that as a kid.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It's terrifying.

[Mike Wright]

Mike does not like appliances that come alive.

[Jason Moore]

No, there's just. There's a particular scene. If you saw it as a kid. You know what I'm talking about.

[Mike Wright]

We appreciate Your Support over there. JoinTheFoot.com Congratulations on the Calvin Ridley jersey And you can check out some other sign sports [e-mail] use the code ballers on your first item. We do have another significant meaningful announcement. So 200,000 subs it could be. We can shoot our shot like by the time people listen to this, it could be. But that's not the announcement. The 2020 Sleeper bowl is upon us.

[Jason Moore]

Let's go.

[Mike Wright]

If you followed it last year we took home that hashtag footclant title.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh that's right. We did win the championship and I forgot all about our dominant victory.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, yes. And we are trying to run it back this year. We're going to be drafting live tomorrow, taking on Juju, Smith, Schuster and some other big name celebrities in the second sleeper bowl. I'm excited. And that'll be on YouTube, Twitch, Twitter, Facebook. And that'll be what, 1pm Eastern. Brooks. Yes sir.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, go subscribe on YouTube. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers click the bell. It's last year was, it was incredible fun. The draft has all kinds of twists and turns and seeing how these, you know, like these are, they're not. People are hosting a fantasy football show seeing how they, they draft, making changes, how we have to react. It's, it's like us, if you want to see us draft in a home league, this is what it's like.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And you know, we could talk through our picks. Last year we had Ninja stream sniping us Watch.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Watching us talk through our picks and then grabbing our guys.

[Mike Wright]

We could not be stopped. Despite the fact that he did that. Despite the fact that, I mean this, this proved that you don't win your league at the draft because we did make the decision to steal Juju from himself.

[Jason Moore]

Look, when you got a chance in.

[Mike Wright]

The first round last year and we still won the league, it had to be done. So it's possible to troll somebody and win a league, I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's the best, is the best way to win.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. If you're ever playing with, you know, one of the players. Follow us on Twitter at the ffballers. You'll see the notifications for that on there as well. There is a little bit of news we want to get into before the mop.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Mike Wright]

All right, this was some more bad injury news from Philadelphia. The Eagles placed left tackle Andre Dillard on injured reserve, torn biceps ending his season. He was the number 22 pick in last year's draft. They've already Lost the right guard. Mike, you talked about this before the show. This is significant. If you're heading into the draft this weekend, is this a difference making injury to you?

[Jason Moore]

It has to at least give you pause because losing your left tackle. Would you just.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Andy. Andy just doused himself.

[Jason Moore]

He forgot how to drink.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I blame.

[Jason Moore]

You got a drinking problem.

[Mike Wright]

I blame Brooks. This, this, this mug was a little too slippery.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Brooks is Brooks. Come on, man.

[Jason Moore]

Look, you never want to lose your starting left tackle a week and a half before the season starts. Now, they were, I believe that Jason Peters, who they. They brought back, he'll go back to left tackle. Let's see if Jason Peters can say that he's. Can he stay healthy. But it needs to give you pause where Miles Sanders is being drafted. He is also banged up. His offensive line is banged up. Where I'm usually a pretty risky guy in the first and second round. I don't. I go all out, man. While Jason. His strategy has always been I am avoiding all risk in the first two in the first two rounds. And I'm closer to that point now with Miles Sanders of. Do I take Josh Jacobs over Miles Sanders? Do I make sure I get Austin Eckler over Miles Sanders? It's.

[Andy Holloway]

It's really.

[Jason Moore]

It's a, it's a. It's a little bit of a sketchy situation now.

[Andy Holloway]

I view it as a tiebreaker for those in the same tier. I already was looking at, say Josh Jacobs and Miles Sanders as near equals where I didn't know who to draft. I'm not moving Miles Sanders down and making him a worse player. He's in the same tier he was in. But now it's a tiebreaker of saying, you know, the offensive line.

[Jason Moore]

Aaron Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I would still take Miles Sanders over Aaron Jones, but Aaron, I'm Aaron.

[Mike Wright]

Jones in that camp in that question.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Nick Chubb.

[Mike Wright]

Nick Chubb.

[Andy Holloway]

Nick Chubb.

[Jason Moore]

A little bit lower in the tiers.

[Andy Holloway]

But Chris Carson, definitely Miles Sanders.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

See, Andy's with me.

[Mike Wright]

It's close. I mean the Carlos Hyde work and things like that. And I guess I'd probably lean Miles.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I like that PPR upside. I feel like it's higher with Miles.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

But Sean McVeigh came out. Darrell Henderson is expected to be available for week one. Available is not necessarily active. It's certainly not starting. And this could be a quick opportunity for Cam Acres to establish himself.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Cam Makers is an exceptionally dynamic player. Love him. Believe that he should be in conversations about rookie breakout. You know, the Jonathan Taylor. Conversation exists for Cam Acres. We can't just live in a one year bubble in Los Angeles with the Rams and not recognize just the power of that offense when it's functioning the right way.

[Andy Holloway]

They have a great offense that has had a very fantasy relevant running back for the existence of the Sean McVeigh era. And Jonathan Taylor is being drafted well ahead of Cam Acres. And Jonathan Taylor is not the starter. He's behind. Marlon Mack presumably has to deal with Naim Hines. Cam Akers is a value right now in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree.

[Mike Wright]

Last bit of news. Just because. And that was actually the justification for the move. It was just because.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

The jets have acquired running back Caleb.

[Andy Holloway]

They signed them from the waiver wire.

[Mike Wright]

No, no.

[Jason Moore]

They could have because we had the news that, you know, Caleb Blanche was going to get cut. Right. Everyone knew about it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was. But then. Hold up, wait a minute. Number two, the Dolphins actually managed to trade him for a conditional draft pick to the Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they were worried that when. Oh, I actually finally get it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Mike Wright]

Did you figure something out?

[Andy Holloway]

I genuinely figured it out.

[Mike Wright]

Big shimmy breakthrough.

[Andy Holloway]

Now was Caleb Bellaj. Big shimmy breakthrough here. We need that as a drop. Now. Was Caleb with Adam Gase?

[Jason Moore]

I believe that is correct.

[Andy Holloway]

So if that's the case, then he knew if he was a free agent, he would never go to the Jets. Caleb would never sign with the Jets. He's been with Adam Gaze before and they're like, well, I want him, so we got to trade for him.

[Jason Moore]

I can't remember who it was. I'm going to take a shot. I think it was our friend on Twitter, Fantasy adhd. I think maybe you're getting credited for a good joke, but someone threw out there that Caleb Bellage owes Adam Gase money and this is the only way he's going to be able to recoup.

[Mike Wright]

There have been many a joke. Adam Rank also.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The biggest joke of all was when the jets traded a seventh round pick for Kalen Balash. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Adam, what are you doing? Adam Rank said that Adam Gase pays for free samples at Costco.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I don't. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm going to get it in front of me just for the, for the fun of it. Caleb Bellage. Last year he had a 1.8 yards per carry. Was that on like 20 carries, Andy? No, it was on 74 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, he's good.

[Mike Wright]

That seems impossible.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so we're moving on. Anything else we should be talking about in news Brooks. Anything breaking, any big shimmy. Breaking news. Let's mock, let's mock.

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy footballers mock draft.

[Mike Wright]

All right, 12 team half PPR. Jason is in the first spot. Mike at the fourth spot. I'm at the nine spot. One quarterback, two running back, two wide receiver, one tight end, one flex, one defense, five bench. Pretty standard situation. Jason, you're on the clock and I know that you're just name after name after name you're considering.

[Andy Holloway]

I usually am risk adverse, but I'm going to go nuts this time. New head coach, new quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

That is risky.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm risky business. I'm going to take Christian McCaffrey.

[Mike Wright]

Christian McCaffrey. Saquon Barkley goes next. Ezekiel Elliott at 103. Hitman is on the clock.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

This is a tough, tough little.

[Jason Moore]

It's. It definitely is because I have the pick for me is it's Clyde Edwards Allaire or Dalvin Cook. I guess it's one of those two guys.

[Mike Wright]

And what are the emotions going through your head between those picks? Because I, I can feel them. The excitement of Clyde Edwards Allaire, the vague like, you know, what Dalvin did with the last two games and the injuries and the contract.

[Jason Moore]

I am a dandelion in the wind. I am just, just back and forth between these two players of. Look, I don't even know what I'm going to do when, if I'm even.

[Mike Wright]

Right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't know right now. I don't know in a real draft which direction I'm going to go. I will say I have drafted Dalvin Cook a lot in, in my real drafts. So I'm just going to take this, this particular chance to actually draft Clyde Edwards. A lair. But blam, it is done.

[Mike Wright]

Is there any change in the way you approach your draft philosophy from this point forward because of that decision? When you look at those two players?

[Jason Moore]

I don't have to prioritize Alexander Madison.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. That's true. And so after Mike took Clyde Edwards Alaira at 104, Alvin Camara at 105, Michael Thomas at 106, Derek Henry at 107 and Dalvin Cook at 108.

[Jason Moore]

Which to give some context to that, so we did our, we're doing our family draft with our kids. We took team Right, took Dalvin Cook in the first round and we were in, I think it was the 9th and it was this is Alexander Madison time. And you, the people at home know my undying love for Antonio Gibson and it was oh crap, I have to pick one. I know one of these players is not going to make it back. I ended up taking Gibson and then of course, lo and behold, Jason took Alexander Madison. So it was big shimmy. I got, I got big shimmied in the draft and oh man, it's so bad. But it was so it was this decision where all of a sudden my back was against the wall and it, and I knew I was, I had to sacrifice getting one of these players because I didn't prioritize them earlier. So it's saying when I go Edwards a layer I'm avoiding that situation.

[Mike Wright]

Am I a psychopath that I don't prioritize medicine the way you guys do with the Cook situation?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

I'm like, I don't consider that a necessity. The way that you guys have talked about it all off season, not one time have I thought I have to have Alexander Madison if I get Dalvin Cook because I feel like my season is submarine if Dalvin Cook's hurt. Regardless of that investment. That investment's costing me more and more these days. If, and last year we didn't get to see Madison all alone. It was, it was Mike Boone and at Madison was banged up.

[Andy Holloway]

And if you were in a best ball league, I would agree with you in the sense that you don't get to make all the weekly transactions and you're not just doing a one on one matchup on a weekly basis. Alexander Madison could get you win after win after win in a one on one matchup. So I do personally prioritize it.

[Mike Wright]

I worry about that Cook goes out split time backfield, you know, it's not going to be as good as Cook. That's my concern.

[Jason Moore]

I, I guess I really believe in the player Madison. I don't think he's Dalvin Cook, but I think you're getting 85 to 90% of Dalvin Cook's production.

[Mike Wright]

I wish we would have got to see it last year.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, that would have been nice.

[Mike Wright]

I took Josh Jacobs at 109.

[Andy Holloway]

Shocker, you're my guy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean there were other choices. Joe makes a Miles Sanders, Aaron Jones in that category. But I'm taking Josh Jacobs. Patrick Mahomes actually went in the first round next, which, you know, you might roll your eyes out there listening. Don't roll your eyes. This will happen everywhere.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

This will happen all over the place. Our family league, two quarterbacks in the first round. It just happens somebody has watched the Super Bowl. And so Mahomes mixing Miles Sanders to round out the first round. Aaron Jones, Julio Jones, Devonte Adams. Jason shaking his head.

[Andy Holloway]

I just. I know how, you know, early in the offseason, the previous mocks we've done running backs fall even more than they do here. But now, now that real drafts are happening, I mean, these running backs are going to be gone, the ones that I actually want for my running back to. By the time I'm. I'm back on the clock at the 212.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I'm back on the clock at 204 right here. After two wide receivers went off the board. Julio Jones, Devonte Adams. And I can take running back. I can go Nick Chubb. I can go Kenyon Drake. Jason's my guy. Big fan of Nick Chubb. I traditionally go to running backs. I'd like to do something a little bit different today.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

And I have a very good wide receiver on the board waiting for me at 204. His name is Tyree Kill. So I'm going to take Tyree Kill in the second round and see what it's like splitting running back, wide receiver today.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's interesting. Tyreek is there because the running backs are starting to go hot and heavy or earlier and earlier. I think that that will be a very tough decision. Do you go, you know, Nick Chubb, who. I have him, you know, right around that RB1 fringe. But meanwhile, Tyreek Hill is a top five wide receiver. It's a little bit. That's a tougher decision.

[Mike Wright]

The multiverse situation we brought up earlier in the week, like more of the multiverse. Multiverses have me taking Nick Chubb than Tyreek.

[Jason Moore]

Right?

[Mike Wright]

Ordinarily. But I'll go Tyreek Hill. Austin Eckler went next. Nick Chubb. So Eckler ahead of Chubb, and then Deandre Hopkins and Travis Kelsey.

[Jason Moore]

I don't mind it. I have Eckler ranked higher than Nick Chubb. So right now, I am the available wide receivers. Chris Godwin, Kenny Golladay, really like those guys. But look, when you have a. When you have a chance and you're in your draft and you're looking at your good friend who has been throwing big shimmies into my face.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you're much closer to those shimmies.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

It feels like. I mean. And look, my top two wrangled them at you.

[Jason Moore]

My top two running backs on my board are Kenyon Drake and Chris Carson.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Chris Carson. So good.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Carson is excellent. He absolutely is excellent. But trying to make a grown man cry is also part of fantasy football. I love Both of these players equivalent. So I'm taking Kenya Drake.

[Andy Holloway]

It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough to be the big shimmy you had to take.

[Jason Moore]

This episode is just squashing you like a bug.

[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

Look, I don't know where you're at.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

All right, Jason, you've got. You had a couple moments there to calm down. You have Christian McCaffrey. That's a comfort.

[Andy Holloway]

That is a comfort which is necessary. I'm standing at the volcano right now.

[Jason Moore]

This is a nice blanket.

[Andy Holloway]

This is worst, absolute worst case scenario for me. I did several mock drafts recently and I would not take the one on one anymore. The way that drafts are happening now, I can't stand this. Here's the players I dreamed to drop to me, any one of the running backs of the tier. Aaron Jones, Austin Eckler, Nick Chubb. I never thought Drake would make it, but I've had those players drop there. They're not dropping there anymore.

[Jason Moore]

So Chris Carson is not in that tier.

[Andy Holloway]

Not in that tier. To me, that's fine. I'll take a Travis Kelsey if he drops or Drake, George Kittle. Both of these drop. Well, all right, then I will take Chris Godwin and wait a minute, he didn't drop either. This is worst case. But I do know who I'm going to take. Kenny Golladay. He's got smooth routes. He's a, you know, the wide receiver. Seven on my board. I like it. And now I'm stuck with a real hard question and I know my answer.

[Jason Moore]

And before you answer that footcoin, this is why we talk about mock drafting. Because the tilt is real. Like this is an actual emotion that is happening with the big shimmy right now. Yeah, you don't want to do that in your real draft. You need to know, like, you know the players that you wanted to drop to you. You need to have your backup plan for these early rounds ready because a tilt pick in the first round is setting your draft up for devastating.

[Mike Wright]

But you're chasing it from then on you realize you make a bad pick and everything else beyond that point is making up for the bad pick. Which means you're making the wrong pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. And I have prepared for this situation. It is worst case scenario but I have prepared and when I look at the board and I say okay, if I take Chris Carson who to me is another tier down or Todd Gurley or Leonard Fournette, these, these other tier running backs, I'm not going to be able to compete with Mike who's got Clyde Edwards a lair Kenyon Drake combo that is better and then gets better picks before I go again. So I'm going to take a difference maker. It is not on brand for us.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. I was going to say are you going to take hearing third round?

[Andy Holloway]

I am taking Lamar Jackson and I realize all the but we're late round quarterback Lamar Jackson is a difference maker that I think will give me an advantage and if I have the chance to draft him in the third round and I don't like anyone else there as a true difference maker for the position I would much rather have taken Travis Kelsey, George Kittle or any of those running backs I name.

[Mike Wright]

But I'm excited on multiple levels for you having done this, I want to see what happens the rest of the way. Because you've been so pronounced in your middle round wide receiver world but now you've invested on Kenny Golladay and Lamar Jackson. I'm excited because look, the psychology of fantasy football. You have the best running back in football. You've now potentially secured the best wide receiver. The temptation to combine Christian McCaffrey and Lamar Jackson and then figure the rest out. I get it. I mean I'm excited to watch you figure this out. Not me, but it's Christian McCaffrey, Kenny Golladay, Lamar Jackson. After Lamar Jackson, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham went Mike is on the clock. And this is interesting because I know Mike is staring at Chris Carson's name but he has Kaido Drizzle errand Kenyon Drake. He's in the third round. Is he willing to go through running back here?

[Jason Moore]

So this is a two wide receiver, one flex format. That's the format that we generally play in. If this was a three wide receiver league, I would 100% I'd be taking DJ Moore here. He's a, he's my number seven wide receiver currently. And I know there's a discrepancy of saying well I'm going to pass my number seven wide receiver to take my number 12 running back. But leaving the first three rounds with three running backs that I project as RB ones. It's to me is an advantage over everyone else inside of this league of things have really opened up here for me. Quarterback, tight end, it doesn't matter. I'm. I am set here at running back until I choose to start grabbing some backups.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that is quite the start. And then you get to put into practice that middle round wide receiver find the value that you like. I would assume somehow some way you end up with DJ Chark on your team. I should always do should get at.

[Jason Moore]

Least one of my my guys here.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Yesterday we had a very big discussion. Was it a discussion? I don't know what you would define it as. We talked about Le'Veon Bell and I received messages on Twitter basically finding it our conversation which was a bus show. Jason brought up the name. There's a lot of negative press feeling like our discussion was incongruent with our ranking of Le'Veon Bell that is still in the UDK. I told you I don't have him in my top 10 anymore. But I'm looking at options that running back here after Carson went Alan Robinson, juju, DJ Moore. I was hoping Mike would pass on Carson and he could sneak through Leonard Fournette just before me at 308. My running back options which I would love to secure a running back here. It's Le'Veon Bell that's the decision for me. I mean there's James Conner, there's Todd Gurley.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say the if. If I were you and I'm looking at Lev Bell, Todd Gurley, James Conner. Right now in my projections I might have to update here. I have Connor two spots behind Le'Veon Bell. I think I would be taking the chance personally on Connor now.

[Mike Wright]

So my decision making here is I believe that there are players that I'm content with alongside Le'Veon Bell at this pick. So. And I don't have a long wait like I'm at 309. I got to wait six picks and then I like left Bell. But I would be content with David Johnson or Mark Ingram as my running back too. I think that there's a tier difference at wide receiver here.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

And that pick is Amari Cooper for me. So I'm going to take amari Cooper at 309 and gamble on the return of a running back I'm happy with. James Conner went next, Robert Woods, Adam Thielen, Mark Andrews, A.J. brown and then David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

So had I taken gambled and won.

[Mike Wright]

Had I taken Le'Veon Bell there, it would have been a mistake. But I'm going to take them right here. So I end up with Amari Cooper and Le'Veon Bell. I do not think I have any shot at Amari Cooper if I went love Bell in that third round. So, hey, sometimes you win.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, sometimes you gamble, sometimes you win. So I will be looking at my first wide receiver off the board here. Both my my guys are here talking about DJ Chark and Terry McLaurin, Calvin.

[Mike Wright]

Ridley, Cooper Cup, Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Off the board now. There's another wide receiver on the board who is one of Jason's my guys. Good.

[Mike Wright]

Some of the options, read them out.

[Jason Moore]

So Tyler Lockett, that's what I'm talking about, is Jason's my guy.

[Andy Holloway]

You're going to have a great team.

[Jason Moore]

Nick Lauren, DJ Chark, Metcalf Sutton, Keenan Allen. That's kind of the wide receiver crew that I am looking at now. Jason, this is where he is lucky that I grabbed Chris Carson because had I not drafted Chris Carson, I was.

[Mike Wright]

Going to ask you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it would have been really fun to just take another one of Jason's players right in front of him. But like, I've been doing it all off season, you know where I'm going. Shark Wing Duck, DJ Chark, baby Shark, whatever you want to call him, he is now my wide receiver one and I'm very happy about it.

[Mike Wright]

DJ Chark, you're taking him over Terry McLaren in all situations.

[Jason Moore]

I am. He is. He has ranked higher for me by a little bit. It's. It's tough. It's. To me, the difference maker is simply a little bit more trust in or a lot a bit more trust in Gardner Minshew than Dwayne Haskins.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so you went DJ Chark, you would have gone locketed. You just didn't want to stack Seahawks.

[Jason Moore]

I would. The only reason to do that would be to troll Jason. DJ Chark is much higher in my rankings.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, Jonathan Taylor next at 410. Jason, were you thinking about Jonathan Taylor if he came back to you?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't think so. So when I look at the board, this isn't how, you know, if you've listened for a long time, you know, I'm heavy running back early wide receiver in the middle, and then, you know, that's usual. But we stay water and the draft didn't fall to me. This is the situation if I'm on the one on one where I go to a modified zero RB. I have Christian McCaffrey. One of my running backs is locked.

[Jason Moore]

Down one and a half. Really?

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. But I just have to fill one running back spot by the end of this draft.

[Mike Wright]

This is called CMC and Chill.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Shout out to Smiz.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Is that what he's called?

[Mike Wright]

That's what I saw on Twitter. CMC and Chill.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want to take an injured David Montgomery or a Raheem Mostert type over dominant wide receivers, in my opinion, like Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin, Cortland Sutton. I'm not going to do that. Now, I would normally take Zach Ertz here, but if you go quarterback early, which I've done, do not take a quarterback and a tight end early. You cannot do that unless you're going full 0rb. But no, that's just going to make my depth at the important positions not good enough. I'm going to take my guy, Tyler Lockett. Thank you, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

You're welcome.

[Andy Holloway]

I love that. I'm going to take your guy, Terry McLaurin.

[Jason Moore]

That's a great pick. And so that is a great pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you. I'm pretty happy with the triad of wide receivers Golladay. Tyler Lockett, Taryn McLaurin. That's pretty awesome.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty hot.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got Christian with McCaffrey and Lamar Jackson.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Have you perked up? Have you risen out of your baby?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Big Chevy. Big Chevy Time. And there's a couple of running backs that I am hopeful could make it back to me that I do. Like, I'll say their names out loud, you know, even though it could obviously let you draft them. But if either Cam Akers or Kareem Hunt could make it back to me and I would throw Ronald Jones into that mix as well, I'd be super happy with the lineup. I have to plug that player into my RB2.

[Mike Wright]

So Jason went Lockett McLaurin. Russell Wilson went next at 502, Zach Ertz at 503. Mike back on the clock with a team of Clyde Edwards, Alaire, Kenyon Drake, Chris Carson and DJ Chark. What's your thought process here, Mike?

[Jason Moore]

So the why I'm. I'm looking at wide receiver. I would be deciding between Sutton, DK Metcalf, Keenan Allen, or if I want to assess the risk that I feel about my team right now. AJ Green is in the mix for me. I know he's. He's back. It's. Andy smirks because it brings him joy. Like it's it's funny how perceptively on the show like players get associated with the three of us and AJ Green is clearly associated with Andy and I.

[Mike Wright]

Only when healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Only when healthy. And I've. I've been there the whole time.

[Mike Wright]

You have been there.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just not as vocal about it like A.J. green.

[Mike Wright]

But you've said it before.

[Jason Moore]

I completely agree with everything that Andy has said of A.J. green is an elite player.

[Mike Wright]

Please clip that out. Just that sentence. I completely agree with everything Andy has said, period.

[Jason Moore]

AJ Green is an elite player. We haven't seen him not be elite when he's on the field. It's risky business here though, to pair him with DJ Chark.

[Mike Wright]

That's true.

[Jason Moore]

When I feel much safer in Metcalf. Cortland Sutton. Keenan Allen I think does get a bump with Mike Williams. Going to be missing some time. Maybe get off the line.

[Mike Wright]

I thought you meant with his incredible skills. Keenan Allen and quadriceps.

[Jason Moore]

Keenan Allen is very good. I'm gonna stick with my board here though. Right behind Terry McLaurin on. Oh no, I'm taking DK Mech by accident.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Did you really click something?

[Jason Moore]

That was. I was. I clicked on the player and I thought they would instantly move up to the top of the the mock draft, but it didn't change the order of them. I meant to take Cortland Sutton.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Do we have the. We don't have the ability.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if we have the ability to do it.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Brooks is shaking his head no.

[Andy Holloway]

We will mentally associate Cortland.

[Mike Wright]

So good thing the word mocks in front of this, huh?

[Jason Moore]

Well, and also here, don't be so clicked so fast to just click buttons in your draft. Or maybe you end up with two Seahawks when you don't want to do that.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's a shame. Ty Hilton.

[Jason Moore]

That is unfortunate.

[Mike Wright]

Ty Hilton went next. That's a shame.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Andy Cortland Sutton would be a sensational pick right here.

[Mike Wright]

I agree with that. I am excited about Coralyn Sutton, Ty Hilton, Dak Prescott got Kyler Murray Devonte Parker. What I was smirking at when you brought up AJ Green's name, Mike was not so much that you're agreeing with me. It was actually that I was thinking about AJ Green before your pick and I was thinking about how I would approach it because ADP wise, the way people look at him, do I need to take him in the fifth round or can I do the same gamble I did before? Because there are Your.

[Jason Moore]

For your short wait to come back, correct?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, for my short wait. And my, my thought process was I'm going to wait, I'm going to see what I can get in the fifth round here. I'm going to try to add a little bit of depth to my running back core with some players that I like because I could go, you know, Cam Akers is an interesting name that I could take here. Has an opportunity to start and take that gamble in the fifth round, Ronald Jones, but also Raheem Mostert, somebody that I've believed in, that has been a breakout candidate for me. So I'm going to take Raheem Moster and see if I can grab AJ Green in the sixth. I take Mostert, then Sutton Waller, Watson, Keenan Singletary and Stefan Diggs. You did it again off the board. So the gamble pays off. Now I have to make the decision here. Hollywood Brown or Hollywood or A.J. green. And the pick is A.J. green. I'm taking him here in the sixth round and I will prepare myself for the hate.

[Andy Holloway]

I had. I had dreams of Hollywood falling. I. I was very hopeful, but it did not happen.

[Mike Wright]

So after AJ Tom Brady, Michael Gallup, David Montgomery drops to the sixth here. He'll probably go lower than that in your draft. Hollywood Brown at 608. And then Mike is surveying the board for additional Seahawks that may be available.

[Jason Moore]

For me to inadvertently click on.

[Mike Wright]

Inadvertently click on.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, let's see if that's possible. I was, I was hoping that one of AJ Green, Michael Gallup or Hollywood Brown would make it through. Unfortunately, that is not the case. So now we are. I guess I'm still pretty balanced. I think normally I would like to take a wide receiver here, but now we're looking at the tier of Jarvis, Tyler, Boyd, Julian Edelman, you know, slot receivers that have to get the volume. I will say that Will Fuller is interesting to me right here. We had a very funny moment. We had a very funny moment in the draft, in our family draft where I've, I've really, as much as I can. I've turned over all the picks to my son who's never played fantasy. So he was pining for one of his favorite players, Emmanuel Sanders, in the second round. I had to at least be like, we don't need to do that. Right. Right now, tap the brakes. But one of his favorite players is Fuller V. As he calls him, because so will Fuller V. So he knows players because of Madden and he's not familiar with. It's Fuller the fifth. No.

[Mike Wright]

So he is The Flying V, Fuller.

[Jason Moore]

V. He is Fuller V. And now he is apparently the Flying V. Flying.

[Andy Holloway]

V. Because that's what he does.

[Jason Moore]

The V will fly down the field. And now I feel like I have to take him. You know, I'm talking him up so much.

[Mike Wright]

And in what I said, Flying V. The Flying V. The reason I hate this is because I'm not getting Will Fuller anywhere. I love him. But everybody's starting to buy in to the potential of Will Fuller, which I believe is top 12 potential in will Fuller.

[Jason Moore]

I think it is definitely in the range of outcomes. Look, Watson's going to ball out. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

He is 100%.

[Jason Moore]

Someone on that wider and maybe it turns into just an equal distribution between the three guys. I don't believe that's going to happen. I think that one of them will rise. Jason has been more on the Cook side. Andy and I believe in the Flying V. Which is why I'm going to draft Cam Acres running back for the Los Angeles Rams. Because the tier of wide.

[Mike Wright]

I love it.

[Jason Moore]

My tier of wide receivers there no one is like jumping off the page of I have to get you and and I'm with you guys that Cam Acres is shaping up into an incredible value. My RB4.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

A rookie loaded with talent on a high powered offense. And I don't. And I could, I can sit on Cam Acres and wait a couple of weeks and see if it's actually there. I'm very pleased with that.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you've, you've got, you know, just initials at wide receiver. That's pretty much all you need. DJ and dk. So going with Cam Acres, I love him as a value right now. Tyler Boyd, Jarvis Landry. We are going to do some best ball tips at the end of this draft as well. Jason's on the clock. Back to back picks. His team is Christian McCaffrey and the rest, Kenny Golladay, Lamar Jackson, Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin. Two picks. Jason, what are you going with?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, so I was really, really hoping Cam Acres fell to me here. That's where I've got him when I'm at the one spot from time to time. But it doesn't always work out. Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones II are there.

[Jason Moore]

I'm also looking Ronald Jones I I thank you, Ronald.

[Andy Holloway]

According to your son, Ronald Jones I the captain, the question for me, I was looking at the same wide receivers you're talking about. Except instead of Will Fuller V, I do have Brandon Cooks ahead. I think Brandon Cooks, who has pretty much always been a wide Receiver one in fantasy his entire career until last year and now becomes the one for the Houston Texans or has the chance to be sure. I love the value of Brandon Cooks. I do like the running backs here.

[Jason Moore]

I can't believe you haven't auto picks Cream Hunt here.

[Andy Holloway]

No, Kareem Hunt is in, so I will pick him. It's just a matter of would I rather have Ronald Jones II or Brandon Cooks here. And when I look at my team, that's what you need to do. And I say, okay, I've got Christian McCaffrey.

[Mike Wright]

You need to look at your team.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got Christian McCaffrey, Kareem Hunt. So that running back two is okay, but not fantastic. I've got Kenny Golladay, Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin. This is a two running back, two wide receiver and a flex. If this was two, three and a flex or two, two and two flex, I would go Brandon Cooks. But because it's an even split and my RB2 is okay, not great, I'm going to take Ronald Jones I I and that will give me a balanced team that I really like with Lamar Jackson still.

[Mike Wright]

Deandre Swift goes next. Carson wins. Mike, you're on the clock.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, that makes the pick pretty easy because I was willing to take the Flying V there, but Cam Acres was too, too shiny. I needed to get him.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, you, don't worry.

[Jason Moore]

You've been gambling and winning this whole draft. I finally did and I got him.

[Andy Holloway]

Actually, Andy just gambled and won again. Because now you can take Brandon Cook.

[Jason Moore]

The Texans wide receiver 1.

[Andy Holloway]

The Texans wide receiver 1.

[Mike Wright]

In our family league, this is the exact round in the exact situation where I did not get Will Fuller the Flying V and you took them directly ahead of me. Josh Allen goes next. Julian Edelman, Marvin Jones, Christian Kirk. Running back options. On the board right now, I have Love Bell, Josh Jacobs, Raheem Mostard. I wouldn't mind picking up another running back here, but I'm looking at my options and I'm not, I'm not really thrilled. I mean, J.K. dobbins is there. That feels like a bet on an Ingram injury more than it does an every week startable player. You start to get down the list. You have players that I'd like to see. Like, I'd like to have them, but I'd like to have them later. You know, Naim Hines or Antonio Gibson or Adrian Peterson or some of those names. I'd rather wait on them. Quarterback options, it's Matt Ryan, it's Drew Brees. Wide Receiver feels like the pick here, especially when I have AJ Green. And as much as I love him, there is some risk. I'm not going in on Brandon Cooks. He has injury risk as well. Concussion issues, switching teams. I'm going to take Deontay Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say Deontay Johnson hasn't gotten, you know, the love that he had been getting through the off season. It's finally back at practice after missing quite a bit of time. So you're still in on the Deontay Johnson sleeper love?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, I am. I think he's a great player and you have to make. I think everybody's trying to make a bet, at least having some exposure to Big Ben, being old Big Ben. And that's where I want my exposure there. With Deontay Johnson, I've got another pick here having a hard time. I'm looking at Evan Ingram with the upside at tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Ingram here is very interesting. In most mock drafts, I mean, I'm not in real drafts. I'm not even thinking I'm going to get Angrom because he's, you know, he's one of those fifth round picks, the six round tight ends. And I would much rather take my guy, Blake Jarwin at the, at the very end. But Evan Ingram here in the 8th feels like a. Whoever gets him has gotten an incredible value at the tight end position.

[Andy Holloway]

You talked him into it.

[Jason Moore]

Did I?

[Mike Wright]

Evan Ingram? I took him, yeah. I mean, I looked at.

[Jason Moore]

I'm with it.

[Mike Wright]

I looked at running backs and another tough decision. It's like, oh, Tevin Coleman sitting there. Well, I could take Tevin Coleman in the eighth round and have Raheem Moster and then be in that old Mike Davis, Chris Carson, Seattle backfield boat from a couple years ago. I don't want to do that. John Brown, Tevin Coleman, J.K. dobbins, Tariq Cohen went next. Mike back on the clock, eighth round.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so the wide receivers, I would be looking at these. The safety net. Jameson Crowder, I think he is. He's interesting. If it was. If this were a PPR league, he'll be far more interesting. He probably would have already been drafted. But Mike Williams, he's going to miss time. I do love Golden Tate, but I think I can probably wait maybe even a few more rounds. Maybe till the wafer wide.

[Mike Wright]

The golden weight.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the golden weight, sure.

[Jason Moore]

And we're getting into the position where if I want to get Antonio Gibson, I do need to draft him. I've got my eye on Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. No, you do if you want him.

[Jason Moore]

You are a turd. Why are you doing this?

[Mike Wright]

Mind games begin.

[Jason Moore]

Well, here's the thing. I would be really upset with myself if I didn't get him at this. But look, we're in Flyerville. We're, you know, soaring at 30,000ft already. So let's fly. Antonio Gibson. He's on my bench.

[Andy Holloway]

All righty. The player that I was hoping now.

[Jason Moore]

Confess, would you have drafted him?

[Andy Holloway]

He would have been in consideration 100%. The player I was eyeballing, hoping gets back to me because I just am in love, love, love with the talent is Jerry Judy. I get him pretty much in every, you know, in the later rounds. I'm drafting him ahead of where his ADP is. I don't think he's a good route runner. I think he's a great route runner. So he's in. And now I'm contemplating. Okay. Do I look at Hayden Hurst? He's kind of the last tight end left that I'm confident in volume. People might notice Tyler Higby is on the board. That would be more of a Mike belief. I'm more on Andy's side where I think Higby and Everett are both going to be very involved and eat into each other's workload at running back. I'm looking at possible options. Kerryon Johnson is currently still taking the first team reps as DeAndre Swift has been injured. He's always been someone that I've liked, but I don't know if I'm allowed to draft him anymore after all these years.

[Jason Moore]

Any consideration for Zach Moss here? Buffalo rookie running back?

[Andy Holloway]

No, the value is certainly there. We talked about, you know, he's being utilized in camp, he's getting good press, and the combination of possibly being a pass catcher and possibly being the goal.

[Jason Moore]

Line guy means he gets the high value touches.

[Andy Holloway]

He could absolutely be the surprising good option for fantasy. The truth is I don't really want Singletary. I don't really want Zach Moss. I know they want to run the ball, but I think that, you know, I'm not sure that the fantasy value is going to come from either guy without an injury to the other. So I'm sitting here and based on everything we just described, I'm going to take a guy who I think is extremely talented, is currently getting all of the first team reps and could very well be the starter through the season who I love. I'm going to carry on.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, wow.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't even have I archived this drop.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

All Right, Mike back on the clock, 9th round pick.

[Jason Moore]

All right. I was making the jokes on how I can wait on him, but my team is just, it's full of running backs. And with Shark, Metcalf, Will Fuller, I do have a need for a smash glass wide receiver that I could put in my lineup. And I know he's going to get at least some points. Maybe he would make it back, maybe he won't. And just my belief in Golden Tate being the top wide receiver option for the Giants, I'm going to draft him right here.

[Andy Holloway]

Also, for the record, based on talking through Carry on and the other options, I 100% would have gone Antonio Gibson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, then the gamble has won.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Mike went Golden Tate, then Mike Williams, Higby Rugs. I'm going to play the game again. I'm going to play the gamble. I like the value of Drew Brees. Late, late, late in drafts. He's still on the board at the quarterback position. I don't want him in the ninth. I want to add some running back depth in the 9th.

[Jason Moore]

I want him in the 10th.

[Mike Wright]

I want him in the tenth.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have taken him in the 9th. I looked at his name. He. I would have drafted him at my last pick if I didn't have Lamar Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to, I'm going to take the shot and I'm going to go, I'm going to go with Zach Moss over Marlon Mack over Adrian Peterson. Moss arrow pointing up. Marlon Mack, arrow pointing down. So I'm going to take Zach Moss for my running back depth and gamble on Drew Brees making it back to me in the 10th.

[Jason Moore]

Snake eyes.

[Mike Wright]

Let's find out.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you did it again. Ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

CD Lamb, James White, Philip Lindsey, Darius Slayton, Michael Pittman, Jared Cook, and oh, look at this. Drew Brees in the 10th round. Feeling pretty good. Feeling pretty good. I got the depth I wanted at running back with Zach Moss and got the quarterback I wanted, so hooray.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that, that is, that is not bad. I'm looking at the. I know I'm tracking positions to see who has filled the quarterback slot and it is 11 of the 12 teams. Certainly someone could take a backup. But that to me, that says I don't have to take my quarterback here. I've got my eye. There's still several. Stafford, whoa. I mean, Aaron Rodgers is there. Ben Roethlisberger, Goff, who I highlighted yesterday. Cam Newton, who's shaping up to be my favorite late round quarterback these days.

[Mike Wright]

That was the one thing that made me consider Passing on Drew Brees was just trying to get Newton in the next round, but knowing you two wasn't going to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I've got Lamar.

[Jason Moore]

And this is where I actually cry some tears because the player that I was gambling silently, I didn't even want to mention his name. I didn't want to jinx it. He went right in front of me.

[Mike Wright]

Damien Harris.

[Jason Moore]

Damien Harris, running back for the New England Patriots. I get it. Playing the game with the New England Patriots, it has burned many, many people out there. But to be my final bench player. Damien Harris, who has. His drumbeat has been just getting deafening over the training camp. Even with Sony Michelle back, they're saying Damian Harris is still getting all the work with the ones he is. He looks outstanding. His pass blocking is improved. His pass catching is great. Everything is. The arrow is way, way up on Damien Harris. I really wish I could have taken him here. So now I have to change my plan.

[Mike Wright]

And you still need a tight end, a quarterback, and a defense. So this is. I do know, depth piece outside of those positions. If you don't go, sounds like the Blakeouts coming.

[Andy Holloway]

Unless you think you get them later. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I definitely could get Blake Charlie later. That's whenever I please. That's the best part about Blake Jarwin, honestly, the. The difficult decision that. And I think I'm going to have to make it in our family league as well. Look, I love Blake Jarwin. He's a my guy. I believe he's going to break out. But I also have full confidence in Mike Gasicki, who is going very late in drafts as well. And in our family league, I think I'm gonna have to make that decision. Oh. Oh, goodness gracious. But at this point, we're looking at, you know, real upside. Guys that can make some noise in week one. I'm going to take another rookie. Apparently, I'm just filling my. My bench with or my team with rookies, but I'm going to take Jalen Rager, wide receiver for the Philadelphia Eagles, who could quickly emerge as the number one option.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Duke Johnson, Keyshawn Vaughn. Two picks for Jason. The 10th and 11th round here. Jason, what are you going with? I had a tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

I had him as a breakout option. I'm going to draft Noah Fantastic and see if he can break out. If not, I'll pivot on the waiver wire to a Chris Herndon or a special postman named Dan Arnold. And then I'm looking at my team here. You know, I've got Kenny Golladay Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin and Jerry Judy. A four pack of wide receivers that I think is good. Christian McCaffrey, Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones, carry on Johnson. Four pack of running backs who I think is good. So I'm just looking for the most solid piece out there that could be used on a weekly basis. To me, that's DeSean Jackson, who could very well be the number one wide receiver for the Eagles.

[Mike Wright]

That sucks. I was hoping he'd make it back.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

I am taking the approach of the later Eagle wide receiver, Rager Djax.

[Jason Moore]

Interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Let one go. Take the second one if you want to shoot your shot.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you finally came up. Snake eyes there.

[Mike Wright]

And then you took Mike. You took Cam Newton in the 11th.

[Jason Moore]

I did. It's the situation of who would I. Who will I be more upset about missing out on? I don't think I'm going to miss out on any of the tight ends. I want to come back, but Cam Newton is. He's already in my top 12. I know he's not officially the starter, but I've been to the future. Cam Newton is the starting quarterback for the New England Patriots.

[Mike Wright]

All right, I'm going to take a shot here in the 11th round on the player I talked about on yesterday's show. He's running back for the Indianapolis Colts, has a great opportunity with Philip. Had a bit of a discussion with tags on Twitter about the viability of Naim Hines in the offense, but I'm going to take Naim hines in the 11th. Basically a dart throw at an Echler style value, but getting him in the 11th round. Tony Pollard went next. LaShawn McCoy. Okay, there's a name that we hadn't talked about and then we're coming back with the 12th round pick.

[Jason Moore]

I do, I like LaShawn McCoy as a. As a very, very late round pick.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Just, just in case Ronald Jones, if he messes up and then Bruce Aarons just has faith in McCoy, especially as a pass catcher and a pass blocker. He could be on the field way more than we believe.

[Mike Wright]

All right, I could go Chris Thompson, another sleeper name he brought up here in the 12th round. But I'm going to actually go with Justin Jackson. Justin Jackson is a player that I can see in week one. Does he have a much larger role than fantasy football players are expecting? If not, I can cut him, I can move on. I can use that spot. But if he has that bigger role and we're missing out on him, 12th round value is Incredible. So that's my final position pick before defense. Mike. Jason, you got your final pick here. Mike went with Blake.

[Jason Moore]

It's time to Blake out, baby. Let's get it.

[Mike Wright]

And Jason, your final pick here before we wrap this thing up is done.

[Andy Holloway]

I took Chris Thompson.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, just to add another pass catching depth. If running backs get injured, I can throw him in and get some points. At defense, I believe in the Saints bringing back a ton of the same. You know, they've just. They had a great defense last year. Their defense has been balling out in camp so far.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. That was the end of your.

[Andy Holloway]

That was the end of.

[Mike Wright]

All right. All right. Didn't realize it sounded like the middle of a.

[Jason Moore]

No one cares who our defenses are.

[Mike Wright]

No, we'll just take some defenses here in the last round and we'll share our teams on Twitter and you guys can contribute your thoughts. Jason, why don't you run back your whole team? Mike after him, and then I'll run mine back before we get into best ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. Running back, I've got Christian McCaffrey, Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, and Chris Thompson. At wide receiver, I have Kenny Golladay, Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin, Jerry Judy, and Desean Jackson. And then, of course, I have Lamar Jackson at the top of my board with Noah. Fantastic.

[Mike Wright]

All right, I have Drew Brees at quarterback, Josh Jacobs, Lev Bell as my starting running backs, Tyreek Calamari Cooper, Evan Ingram at tight end, flexing with either like most dirt or AJ Green, Deontay Johnson, Zach Moss, Naim Hines, Justin Jackson. And I went with the Chargers defense, which I am so excited to watch. Yeah, that's not bad with Chris Harris and company on that Chargers defense. So that is a mock draft in the books.

[Jason Moore]

At quarterback, I have Cam Newton. My running backs are Edwards Allaire, Kenyon Drake, Chris Carson, Cam Akers, Antonio Gibson. At wide receiver, D.J. chark, D.K. metcalf, Will Fuller, the Flying V, Golden Tate and Jalen Rager. And then the Blake out. Blake Jarwin is my tight end.

[Mike Wright]

You always know you had a nice mock draft if you accidentally draft DK Metcalf and if Emilio Estevez likes your team, which is certainly the case with Will Fuller.

[Andy Holloway]

Best ball breakdown presented by Underdog Fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

All right, this is your weekly best ball segment brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you are not a part of the best ball mania, then you have. You're not a part of a million dollars worth of potential prizes. Underdogfantasy.com or you can search for the Underdog fantasy app. This is the new Best ball place to play. You can go find the app on the App Store. My tip for today, this is something that I have seen both Jonathan Bales talk about when it relates to DFS play. Seen Chris Raybon talk about this when it comes to best ball play. And this is a principle that we apply here just to the way that we run our business, which is the Pareto principle. Also some people call that the 8020 rule. That rule is essentially that 80% of the results come from 20% of the causes. And this is huge. When you are playing basketball you see this principle carried out in daily life. In society, things like 20% of the criminals commit 80% of the crimes. 20% of all drivers cause 80% of all accidents. 20% of company products represent 80% of sales. And in best Ball here's what happens. You're drafting your best ball team. Every player of relevance is going to be drafted across the entire best ball draft. And because you aren't setting a weekly lineup, the way best ball works is your lineup is auto optimized. So the majority of players that production evens out. When you apply this principle to best ball, you are taking your shot at blow up potential in your draft. You are looking to find that 20% of players that make 80% of the difference in basketball leagues and who wins those leagues. You're looking for every week. QB ones, RB ones, wide receiver ones, tight end ones. Those are the players you want to draft. Good example. We just did a redraft mock Mike went with Golden Tate later in the round. Darius Slayton. If I'm in a basketball league, Darius Slayton represents that upside potential that Golden Tate doesn't. In a best ball yeah, certainly format you want the chance of a player separating. So when you're talking about best ball, you're talking about risk in general. You're looking at those difference makers. But the later your draft goes, the less risk averse you need to become. Take the huge shots. Take the Jalen Rager or the D Jacks over the Alshon Jeffrey. Maybe he comes back and gives you the ho hum performances. Take the shot. In my opinion on a player like Anthony Miller who has unseen ceiling potential versus the ho hum Tyler Boyd type of pick late in drafts. So that's, that's kind of the tip I wanted to bring to the table today. Realize that the people who win at best ball, they do it on the backs of guys that are difference makers have potential to be that breakout guy.

[Jason Moore]

It's really a good life tip, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, certainly.

[Mike Wright]

So, yeah. When I brought up using it in our company. We do not.

[Jason Moore]

That's not a joke. No. We run everything through the filter of the 80 20.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, you have so many opportunities to do stuff, but we try to invest most of our time on the 20% of things. That makes that matter. Yeah, that matter. That makes the biggest difference in our business or in your life. Because I don't know, there's. There's nothing quite like carving away all the needless crap in your life.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes.

[Mike Wright]

The Golden Tates of your everyday. I know. That is. That was rude. That was rude. Golden Tate deserves your respect. He's just on the back end of his career.

[Jason Moore]

That's fine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, it is fine. Larry Fitzgerald, I mean, he's a great player. Tons of respect. Not drafting him in basketball.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Mike Wright]

You can, like I said, sign up for Underdog Today, underdogfantasy.com or search for the Underdog fantasy app in the App store. We did it, guys. Our final mock draft in the books. DK Metcalf, Mike's signature player of this draft.

[Jason Moore]

Next week, the fantasy MVP show. Our bold prediction show. It's going to be hot. Stay tuned.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the Ffballers and Foot Clan.

[Mike Wright]

Make sure you join us tomorrow for for the sleeper bowl live, 1pm Eastern, 10am Pacific. We're drafting live against Juju, Smith, Schuster, some other big names, and we're going to bring home that Foot Clan title once again.