Fantasy Football - Keep/Trade/Cut + Shoot for the Moon! - Podcast for 4/9

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Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Episode Summary

Episode Title: Keep/Trade/Cut + Shoot for the Moon!
Date: April 9, 2026
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Brief Overview

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers centers around “Keep, Trade, Cut”—a segment in which the hosts debate which players should be prioritized, moved, or let go in fantasy football 2026, especially in dynasty and redraft contexts. The show dives deep into ranking dilemmas, “shoot for the moon” trade targets, and explores the rapid value shifts across running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends entering the upcoming season.

The hosts’ characteristic banter and on-the-fly humor are ever-present as they tackle big-name players’ uncertainties, discuss high-upside breakouts, and reflect on team news that shifts fantasy values. The central aim is to provide actionable, opinionated advice to help listeners gain a championship edge.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Welcome, Updates, and Community

• The show opens with comedic banter about Mike’s dental mishap and its social media aftermath.
• They celebrate continued independence (season 12) and plug their fantasy football community at JointheFoot.com (~04:25).
• Andy notes, “About 40,000 strong over there. … Still independent, fully independent.” (04:14)

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Quick Question: What “Shoot for the Moon” Trade Should You Offer for the 1.01 Rookie Pick?

Focus: Dynasty formats and leveraging enthusiasm for top rookies for established studs and assets
Timestamps: 05:17–13:16

• 101 (“Jeremiah Love”) is the prize pick for many managers this offseason.
• Jason: “If I’m looking to get rid of Jeremiah Love in a dynasty league, then I would want to get a young stud wide receiver. Plus … like Drake London and a ‘27 first.… That is shooting for the moon.” (06:16)
• Comparison is made between the 1.01 and various wideouts (London, Garrett Wilson, Malik Nabers, McMillan, etc.).
• Mike: “Would you trade the 1.01 in this year's draft for Garrett Wilson and a 2027 first?” (08:11)
• Andy: “Garrett Wilson is so tough.… Even with as terrible as it was for the New York Jets and for Garrett Wilson, he was absolutely balling out.…Before he got hurt, [he] was WR5.” (08:19)
• Consensus: If the return is an elite young wideout plus future picks, it’s a viable strategy.

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Dynasty Value Tiers: Where Does Jeremiah Love Slot Among Top WRs?

Timestamp: 12:08–13:00

• Jason and Andy run through a live ranking: preferring Neighbors, London, and McMillan over Love; swapping around with Wilson, Rice, and others.
• The “value proposition swaps” around the WR10 range (12:58)—by that level, a manager might favor Love over the next receivers.

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NFL News & Notes

Timestamps: 13:16–18:41

• CJ Stroud: Texans pick up his 5th-year option (13:25).
• Devon Achane: Did not report to first day of voluntary workouts.
  • Hosts discuss holdout and contract situations for pivotal skill players.
  • Andy: “If I were Achane for a moment … I’d be like, give me that money.” (14:30)
• Kyle Pitts: Signs the franchise tag.
• Malik Nabers: ACL/meniscus recovery—looks like a slow start into training camp; impacts dynasty and early season outlook (16:17).
• Isaiah Likely’s repeated offseason hype is joked about; Jason notes, “It’s the Isaiah Likely stuff. … Been holding on to Isaiah Likely in my dynasty team, waiting for that transition.” (18:25)

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Keep/Trade/Cut Segment

1. RBs: Ashton Jeanty (LV), Devon Achane (MIA), Omariyon Hampton (LAC)

Timestamps: 21:17–26:35

• All are top-15 running backs in current redraft rankings.
• Consensus “Keep”: Devon Achane for talent, opportunity, and upside (“He’s one of a handful of guys … for that top five.” – Mike, 22:21)
• Trade: Jeanty, as public excitement gives him the highest ROI.
  • Andy/Jason: “I have Hampton over [Jeanty] right now … but people want Jeanty.” (25:35)
• Cut: Hampton, only as a result of trade value—hosts actually rank him above Jeanty for practical production but recognize Jeanty’s trade market sizzle.
• Deep discussion on how Harbaugh’s “win at all costs” creates some usage volatility for Hampton (24:03).

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2. WRs: Garrett Wilson, Ladd McConkey, Emeka Egbuka

Timestamps: 27:36–36:16

• All ended last season deflated by injuries, poor usage, or poor QB play.
• “Keep”: Overwhelmingly Garrett Wilson—still profile and role as team WR1 with a proven high ceiling.
  • Mike: “It can be built around Garrett Wilson. No question it will be.… I’m going to cut Ladd McConkey.” (32:52)
• “Trade”: Emeka Egbuka, due to his wide range of outcomes and upside if situation improves.
• “Cut”: McConkey, seen as the safest but lowest-ceiling among the trio.
  • Andy: “He’s going to settle in the next five years as the WR21 to 29. … Not the kind of guy that’s going to carry the offense.” (32:10)
• Jason emphasizes that fantasy rosters need risky, high-variance players, not just “known assets” (32:52).

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3. Tight Ends: Sam LaPorta, Tucker Kraft, Harold Fannin

Timestamps: 36:25–42:40

• “Keep”: Harold Fannin for sheer difference-making upside.
  • Jason: “If I’m going to take a shot on a tight end…there’s only three guys … Harold Fannin, Colston Loveland, Tyler Warren.” (39:32)
• “Trade”: Tucker Kraft, coming off an ACL but was an in-season breakout.
• “Cut”: Sam LaPorta. Despite past TE1 season, seen now as a “middling” option versus having true league-winning potential.
  • Jason: “I despise middle round tight ends, and he is a middle round. He is the definition…” (39:58)
• Much laughter around “tight ends with yams” and irreverent positional humor.

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4. Quarterbacks: Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, Jackson Dart

Timestamps: 45:39–52:59

• “Keep”: Jason and Andy both lean toward Jackson Dart due to his mobile upside and unknown, with Jason noting, “The option of one of these guys finishing as the QB1 … I need you to rush for 700 yards.” (49:34)
• Dak identified as perennially undervalued—never misses as a QB1 in healthy seasons, but rarely gets draft respect equal to output.
• Herbert is the “safe” play, but lacking ceiling if surrounded by poor offensive weapons.
• Order debated, but consensus is Dart (keep), Dak (trade—due to name and draft value), Herbert (cut).

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5. Sweet Spot: Malik Nabers, Trey McBride, Kenneth Walker

Timestamps: 54:32–59:48

• All are considered “mid-second round picks” in best ball.
• “Keep”: Trey McBride, for unmatched positional advantage, locked-in volume; “He’ll be a top-three guy.” – Andy (55:25)
• Trade: Kenneth Walker—still riding the “potential Chiefs RB” hype train, though history has taught caution. Walker’s career has never quite lived up to annual hope, but a fast start could spike trade value.
• Cut: Malik Nabers, due to slow start/return from injury and uncertainty about return to elite form.
  • Mike: “That feels bad.” – on cutting Nabers, but the context makes sense (55:55)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jason: “There are going to be managers willing to give a Drake London and a ‘27 first for Jeremiah Love. That’s a foundational piece.” (07:30)
• Mike: “Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated. ... I just couldn’t come in here and host the show [with broken teeth].” (02:08, 04:24)
• Andy: On asset tiers—“Right around that WR10 range that you’re a little bit more interested in Love.” (12:51)
• Jason: “We’re all trying to find the guy who’s going to do this. Theo Johnson. Breakout year coming. That’s all that means.” (18:37)
• Andy: “It’s always because we think [Keenan Allen]’s gone until about 10 minutes before kickoff and he’ll sign a contract to be right back.” (32:14)
• Jason: “I despise middle round tight ends…and [LaPorta] is the definition of a middle round.” (39:58)
• Mike: “You just can’t draft all players you know what you have. You have to have some risk that it can go either direction.” (31:16)
• Jason: “Dak has total name fatigue … when the casuals come back he’ll tumble.” (50:24)
• Andy: “Walker’s storyline and Chiefs running back potential… Both have never matched up [since Kareem Hunt].” (58:52)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening Banter & Season 12 Announcement: 01:48–05:19
• Shoot for the Moon 1.01 Trades: 05:17–13:16
• Jeremiah Love Dynasty Value Among WRs: 12:08–13:00
• NFL News & Notes: 13:16–18:41
• Keep/Trade/Cut - RBs: 21:17–26:35
• Keep/Trade/Cut - WRs: 27:36–36:16
• Keep/Trade/Cut - TEs: 36:25–42:40
• Keep/Trade/Cut - QBs: 45:39–52:59
• Keep/Trade/Cut - Nabers, McBride, Walker: 54:32–59:48

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Tone and Style

• The show is characterized by irreverent humor, self-deprecation, and lively debate. Banter flows naturally between expert-level analysis and jokes about “yams” or “name fatigue.”
• Listeners are constantly encouraged to play aggressively, capitalize on hype cycles, and embrace uncertainty in draft and trade strategy.
• The original speakers’ energy and camaraderie infuse even the geekiest player debates with personality and bold takes.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Capitalize on “shoot for the moon” rookie hype to acquire proven elite assets, but don’t lose sight of team context and ascending talent tiers.
• Draft rosters with both high floors and high-variance upside swings.
• Keep an eye on injury updates (Malik Nabers, Devon Achane), holdout rumors, and depth chart shifts—especially for skill position stars.
• Recognize positional advantage at tight end is narrow; spend early only on proven dominators.
• Watch the trade market volatility for new Chiefs, Cowboys, and other high-profile teams with unresolved offensive roles.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome in.

[Andy Holloway]

He's back. Oh, look at that smile.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know what all this.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a million dollar smile.

[Jason Moore]

What all these rumors were about.

[Mike Wright]

Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated. I. Nothing was wrong. You guys just mixed up the recording time.

[Jason Moore]

Our bad. That's on us.

[Mike Wright]

As you can see, I have no problems by way of.

[Andy Holloway]

This one was much faster than the last one.

[Mike Wright]

You guys don't. You don't eat bolts. Kids don't eat nuts and bolts.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. I saw a real. The other day of a guy who eats couches.

[Mike Wright]

It could be me.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Too soft.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know, man.

[Mike Wright]

Too soft.

[Jason Moore]

I could still. That could still get your teeth.

[Mike Wright]

I just.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, this is a hideaway.

[Mike Wright]

There's just so many problems that you could have as your thing.

[Jason Moore]

Right? That's not.

[Mike Wright]

And they don't have to be like. Like you could have just, I don't know, massive foot fungus issues. You probably do. Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Gout.

[Jason Moore]

And you wouldn't know because I get

[Mike Wright]

to put a shoe over it for the podcast. That's not A big deal now.

[Jason Moore]

Warts all over my legs.

[Mike Wright]

I mean littered with boils.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe I do, maybe I don't.

[Mike Wright]

But no, I have to have my thing. Be some sort of genetically mis engineered teeth. Why do they keep breaking the bolts? I'm too intense. That's what it is.

[Jason Moore]

And to be fair to you, not at all to your teeth. No, the taco you were eating was a soft taco.

[Mike Wright]

It was a soft taco and it was my front tooth.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man. I thought it was really genuinely big yesterday. It was big of you to. Yeah. Your. Your profile on. On. You put it on X. I think you put it on Instagram.

[Andy Holloway]

Very funny.

[Jason Moore]

It was so funny. And you just put it out there for the whole world to see. Well, we put it out. I watched the show.

[Mike Wright]

You start the show and you guys just start laughing to yourselves profusely. And then one thing leads to another. I'm like, I got to get out ahead of this.

[Jason Moore]

What we need to do is get out ahead of the next time and figure out what we.

[Mike Wright]

There will be a next time.

[Jason Moore]

Sure will. I just hope it's.

[Andy Holloway]

We need to days since Andy's last.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Right now it's zero.

[Andy Holloway]

Like we could. This could go on the. On the screens.

[Jason Moore]

Easy.

[Mike Wright]

Look, it took it just four hours in a dental chair and I'm back. No big deal, right?

[Jason Moore]

We're glad to have you back.

[Mike Wright]

Oh my gosh. It was so ridiculous. It was moments before we were going to record too. I just couldn't. I thought about. I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't come in here and host the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I would have to look at it the whole time.

[Mike Wright]

It would have been well timed for Halloween if I wanted to be, you know. Mike Lloyd. Lloyd from Dumb Dumber. Welcome into the show. Thursday, April 9, the fantasy footballers Podcast. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway with all of his teeth. And we got a great show for you today. JoinTheFoot.com that is where the community of our listeners and supporters reside. About 40,000 strong over there. Bonus weekly episode. You get all of our in season tools. You get access to the ultimate draft Kit and the Dynasty Pass if you're an ultimate member and if you want to support this show. Now what going into our. What season is it?

[Andy Holloway]

This will be season 12.

[Mike Wright]

Season 12. Still independent, fully independent. And we appreciate you guys supporting the podcast. Join the Foot.com for that. Our quick question. I've actually seen a lot these questions come up frequently. Like what? Normally they're worded like this. What would you ask for if you. If someone wanted the 101 in the rookie draft from you.

[Jason Moore]

First of all, that is a very difficult question to answer generically for all leagues because you don't know what players are on other teams. I can't tell you a combination of players which oftentimes that's more what it would be. It would be two really good vets or a star and a younger prospect or something like that. You know my, my answer to the question to give like a value, a lay of the land on value. If I am looking to unload the 101, which is Jeremiah Love, like, so if I'm looking to get rid of Jeremiah Love in a dynasty league, then I would want to get a young stud wide receiver. Plus because I think right now, especially as you get close to the draft and people get hotter and bothered her like, so Drake London and a 27 first. The 27 draft class is great. I would do that deal. I would. I would be willing to, you know, say there you go, sign off.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like just to kind of, I mean that that would be an easy yes for me. I guess I'm surprised that like, is it. Is there not a world where you would rather have Drake London than the one on one independent of. I know, yes, you're going for value. I understand that. But like, yes, if that trade was coming your way and your depth at

[Jason Moore]

both positions notwithstanding, easy argument for that. In fact, the easiest way to think about this is in a startup draft. Where would you draft those guys? And I would take Drake London ahead of. Ahead of Jeremiah Love simply because of the position. A young wide receiver. I think he's 24 years old still. Versus a running back. To be clear. You didn't. I don't think you read the whole quick question, but the example was to ask for a shoot for the moon trade. So obviously Drake London and the 27

[Andy Holloway]

first is a lot.

[Jason Moore]

That's a lot. That is shooting for the moon. But there will be managers in leagues that would be willing to do that. They're running back Needy and they're going to say I'm going to get the next Bijan, the next Gibbs, the next, you know, superstar young running back. That is a foundational piece. There's just not a lot of them in the league. We pretty much know this is going to be one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we. I kind of jumped in too quick. Steve had written in and just asked about being on a competitive team. What would be a shoot for the moon type trade to float to league mates? You Want to get somebody that helps you right now? It could take time for Jeremiah Love to get going. Depending on where the draft destination is, you get the extra pick. Would you trade Mike? Would you trade the one on one in this year's draft? Allah. Jeremiah Love for Garrett Wilson and a 2027 first round pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Garrett Wilson is so tough. He will be turning 26 this year. I brought him up on this week's Dynasty podcast because like I'm, I am the Garrett Wilson guy and even I forgot how good it was like before. So he played his first six weeks. He got hurt in week six. But it's like I brought up weeks one through five last year. Garrett Wilson was the wide receiver five at that time before getting hurt. And once he got hurt, they completely shut him down. So even with as terrible as it was for the New York jets and for Garrett Wilson, he was absolutely balling out.

[Jason Moore]

I lean,

[Andy Holloway]

I think Garrett Wilson, I would, I'd rather have him in the pick. If you're just talking a one for one, I would. I think I'm going to go Jeremiah Love like Garrett Wilson. I was reading through our startup rankings and I got to Garrett Wilson before I thought, okay, if I'm in a startup, I might take Jeremiah Love over him. And the next name on the list, which is Jay. Interesting for our conversation on Dynasty pot is Rasheed Rice. Yeah, like if I have Rasheed Rice, we discussed on Dynasty pot of. He's in. Is he in the contract year?

[Jason Moore]

He's in the contract years. An unrestricted free agent because he wasn't a first round pick. This is his fourth season. He's asking for big time money.

[Mike Wright]

I could see him not showing up that more directly.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he said he's looking for JSN money, which you're not going to.

[Mike Wright]

You're not that guy, pal.

[Jason Moore]

That's what he wants. Which means you could end up in some holdout situation. But Rushy Rice, from a Dynasty perspective is the widest range of outcomes player possible. Because there is the reality where they resign Rushy Rice to a large, big time deal, a wide receiver. One deal could happen. That could absolutely happen. If that happens. Rushy Rice is a top five Dynasty wide receiver tied to Patrick Mahomes. You know, you can't look at season totals because he's usually suspended for half of the year and that comes with that risk. But on a per game basis, I mean when he was playing last year with, he was like the wide receiver 3 on a PER game basis, he's outstanding. He's Young. So that would be one of the best assets in Dynasty. You got to kind of got to call your shot. Because the other option that could happen is at the number nine pick in the NFL draft.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

They take the number one wide receiver if Carnell Tate falls to him, or if they, you know, Makai Lemon, Peter

[Mike Wright]

Schrager just had them taking Jordan Tyson

[Jason Moore]

at 9 and that in his mock. That was the first wide receiver off the board.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

If that happens, that can easily be seen as a replacement. Like, we can't afford to pay Rushy Rice with Patrick Mahomes with Chris. Or we don't want to. Or we don't want to with the headache. We're going to draft a replacement. We'll have two great wide receivers this year, and we'll let Rushy Rice go get a monstrous contract in the off season, giving us compensatory picks. And when Rushy Rice goes to another team that isn't Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed and a little gadgety, utilizing him perfectly, he's like, is he a wide receiver, too? He's not going to go out there. Yeah. I mean, so he's one of those guys where he's on my main Dynasty roster. And I'm like, should I be trying to get out? Because I see a lot on Twitter right now of, like, now that the suspension is lifted and we know he's. He's free to play. He's way undervalued. You should go trade for him right now. And I'm still like. I mean, I could see that out from both.

[Mike Wright]

It's the range of outcomes that's so tantalizing and terrifying for Rashi Rice. I mean, he could literally, like you just said, if he is the guy and gets a contract, he's.

[Jason Moore]

He's a top five wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Huge.

[Andy Holloway]

He still carries risk.

[Mike Wright]

But yes, on.

[Andy Holloway]

On field, there will be very little risk. So. So, like, wide receiver wise, who would you, you know, who would you take first? Jeremiah Love or this wide receiver startup? So it's just, you know, you know, the value. So we'll go. Malik. Neighbors.

[Jason Moore]

Neighbors.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Okay. London.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. London.

[Andy Holloway]

Still London. Okay. I think it gets a little more difficult here. Teterom McMillan.

[Jason Moore]

That was the name I knew I would take. And I would take Tet as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Nico who? Flip. Nico's 27 years old.

[Mike Wright]

That's raw.

[Andy Holloway]

Flip.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. George.

[Jason Moore]

I would. I would take love.

[Andy Holloway]

You take love. Okay. And then. So you'd probably take love over Garrett Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so it's right around that wide receiver 10 range that you're. You're a little bit more interested in love.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Where the value proposition swaps.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean that, that's where I think trading for one of those value switch proposition players like a Garrett Wilson, who I would take love above but Garrett Wilson plus a 27 first and a great draft class that would be utilizing the one on one. Well.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's get into some news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Mike Wright]

The Texans have picked up the fifth year option on their quarterback, C.J. stroud. The recently heavily maligned C.J. stroud. Will Johnson as well. Less maligned.

[Andy Holloway]

Just come on, Stroud. Come on, buddy.

[Mike Wright]

When the defense is back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Getting Tank Dale back. I mean. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he was much better with Tank.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean he was just much better.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's fair.

[Mike Wright]

Before. You know, I think when you have a defense as good as they do, the pressure is going to be squarely on his shoulders. Can he handle it? I don't know. We're going to be talking about our top 15 running backs and wide receivers on next week's episodes. This guy is in the top 15. Devon HN did not report to the first day of voluntary off season workouts. He is in the final year of his rookie deal. If, if I were to be Devon Hn for a moment and I had seen the entire off season of. We're building everything around you and he's one of the key.

[Andy Holloway]

Huh.

[Mike Wright]

Tent posts of the team. And I'd be like, give me that money.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Like I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

Where's my money?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not paid like a foundational player right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

This is lots of proclamations about how great he is and then no more.

[Jason Moore]

There were also rumors though that they might trade him as well. And considering they've traded everyone else and dismantled their team, I don't know that they want to pay for a running back on a second contract when you are a complete tear down to the nubs rebuild. So I don't blame him for, you know, trying to get that money. Not showing up to the voluntary portion of off season programs. This is not a big deal. But big deals always start with this. So it's a, it's a just pay attention and monitor.

[Mike Wright]

I think it could end up in a place where we're much happier, where Hn can navigate himself a better deal.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And you know, we didn't expect like we thought James Cook might have a hard time getting a deal. James Cook got himself a deal. I look at a Chan in the same breath, if not better. I've got him ranked very high. I think the highest of the three of us in terms of my, my top 15. He's just a machine. He's just that good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Stay tuned to Tuesday to find out

[Mike Wright]

where that sounded like a threat.

[Andy Holloway]

Or else.

[Jason Moore]

Or else.

[Andy Holloway]

Or else we won't tell you where we have him ranked.

[Mike Wright]

Kyle Pitt signed the franchise tag will report to otas. He'll get paid big money for one more year. John Harbaugh will be monitoring this all off season. Unfortunately, Malik Neighbors won't be on the field until into training camp and closer to the season it's going to be a while. It was acl. It was meniscus.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't love this.

[Mike Wright]

Matthew Betts, our injury expert said look for him to return to his, you know, to return closer to his pre injury level over the back half of the year. This was a place where I know because of this injury I don't have neighbors as high as you guys have.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I probably have them too high

[Mike Wright]

with this new we all have expectations and hopes and we know what the talent level is. It's just his surgery date was October. It's a big recovery. He could make some tremendous progress and we could be ready to see him on the field to start the year. But we'll see. That whole team is just going to be one of the more interesting storylines in fantasy football all year long. What does Jackson Dart look like with the new head coach? Is Malik Neighbors going to be back to his old self? Is Cam Scatter boo the guy? Do they add another big time wide receiver in the draft?

[Jason Moore]

I mean that seems Jeremiah Love actually going to be drafted.

[Mike Wright]

Oh gosh, no, no. Just stop saying that. Just stop mentioning that.

[Jason Moore]

To be fair, I am usually the one saying there's no way they're going to do that. I'm giving them too much respect. They cannot possibly do that. It will be the most. No, I really don't believe that they will draft Jeremiah Love. There's a lot of people saying oh they like them, they might draft him. Why would they possibly do that?

[Andy Holloway]

So I mean are you prepared to turn on Harbaugh and company?

[Jason Moore]

Oh yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I just want to make sure that we're talking like this. When actions show up, there must be a reaction for sure. Okay, good.

[Jason Moore]

Back will be turned.

[Mike Wright]

Did you see all the news about like Harbaugh?

[Andy Holloway]

You've been warned.

[Mike Wright]

The Isaiah likely utilization and expectations for his stats and things like that. Those comments from Harbaugh I don't know if you guys had brought it up on the show. I meant nope for no reason. But no. There was some conversation about just likely and him putting up the stats that fantasy players want to see.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh so.

[Mike Wright]

Oh again, another exciting storyline on this on this team.

[Andy Holloway]

Did John Harbaugh know he had Isaiah Likely on his team?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he did. And you know what?

[Andy Holloway]

For multiple years, you want to know what's been said all of them.

[Jason Moore]

You want to know what's been said for the last three years? Oh no.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it the Rashad Bateman stuff?

[Jason Moore]

It's no, it's the Isaiah Likely stuff. Isaiah Likely is going to be a Pro bowl is going to be so involved. I've been holding on to Isaiah Likely in my dynasty team, waiting for that transition.

[Mike Wright]

Going to be going to be. This is what we're waiting for.

[Andy Holloway]

We're all trying to find the guy

[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

All right guys, let's have some more fun conversations and dive right in.

[Jason Moore]

Keep, trade, cut.

[Mike Wright]

All right, time for some more strong opinions. We're going to play some keep, trade, cut some different categories for these discussions. A lot of these are dealing with positions and players that we are in the midst of ranking for next week's shows as well. So maybe some opinions will be shared a little bit early. Right now. Let's start with three names at the running back position. All top 15 picks in redraft leagues. Keep, trade, cut. Ashton Genty of the Las Vegas Raiders, Devon A Chan of the Miami Dolphins and Omarion Hampton of the Los Angeles Chargers.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man. And this is for just redraft just this season, who scores the most fantasy points.

[Mike Wright]

Yep, I. You guys had your top 15 running backs. The keep is in the dock easy before it's a chance.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, the keep is.

[Mike Wright]

We all agreed there.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, we are all agreed there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, HN is. He's one of a handful of guys that I think are in conversation for that top five like to finish. I mean could HN finish number one

[Jason Moore]

probably not on the Dolphins but I mean he has the talent, the pass catching ability.

[Mike Wright]

It's not impossible to me.

[Jason Moore]

I. Yeah, I would say. I wouldn't put it at 0%.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know if we would say yes to the Genti Hampton potential. Ashton, Genty, Amari and Hampton, I believe both of you had them back to back in your top 15. I do, I do as well. In an opposite order.

[Andy Holloway]

They are not back to back.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I misspoke.

[Andy Holloway]

They are currently two spots apart.

[Mike Wright]

You guys both put Hampton first.

[Andy Holloway]

That is correct.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Does that scare you at all?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it does scare me. I mean Genty is obviously the higher touted player but if you look at the situations of the two teams, I have a lot of high expectations, high hopes for the new, healthier and improved offensive line for the Chargers, better quarterback situation, just a better offense that Hampton should be a part of. And I think that coming into year two he will be the guy in that backfield. I'M very excited for him. But it's very difficult to say, you know, the guy who was drafted higher, the guy who has less competition, currently none in his backfield, who's, you know, going to be very involved and super talented. And I would say the majority of people, I mean if you look at rankings in general or, or average draft positions, Genti goes ahead of Hampton. So it's a take to say Hampton over Genti. But I want the offense.

[Mike Wright]

I love the offense too. I love the offensive line improvements. I think the difficult thing for me mentally is the fact that you could see the Raiders fundamentally building the entire offense around Genti. You saw games, isolated games from Genti where he was a fantasy force, especially towards the end of the year on a team that was absolute trash. You didn't get to see the sample size of Hampton or the usage of Hampton that make you say he's guaranteed to be the bell cow of this roster. Everything we think logically, rational coaching, he's the dude and he's going to get the opportunity. But Harbaugh scares me a little bit. Harbaugh is a win at all costs, win by any means necessary. We're going to play the players that we have the most confidence in. And because I didn't get to see Hampton be a three down workhorse for more than a blip, maybe one game, right? One game. And he still got banged up in that game. I feel like that's what puts a little hesitation in there for me where I know, I know Genti is going to be what this offense is all about, coaching wise.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Kubiak has come out and said he wants a split backfield. Coaching wise, I think it's a wash. I think both guys could go split backfield, both guys could lean on their star. The thing Genti has going for him right now is like you can want a 50, 50 timeshare all you, all you dream about, but if you don't have another running back worth anything on your roster and they don't, you can't do it.

[Mike Wright]

So for me, I'm a Chan as the keep, I'm Genti as the trade, I'm Hampton is the cut and it makes me stab it. You're going to do that too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's just that the trade value of Genti up, I still, I have Hampton over him right now over Genti. But people want to ask if we're

[Jason Moore]

really playing keep trade cut. I would trade Genty because he's going to carry more value than Hampton. So Hampton Gets the cut. But I would rather have Hampton over.

[Andy Holloway]

Ashton Genti is still

[Jason Moore]

the.

[Andy Holloway]

A fun unknown where it's like, you know, you feel like, hey, well, if Hampton has a great year, he's a top 10 guy. If Ashton Denty puts it together, he is. They took him what, fourth overall for fourth or fifth, I don't remember.

[Jason Moore]

Wherever.

[Andy Holloway]

For a reason. Because the dude is electric and he can. He can be your offense. But I will, you know the probability of. When do they switch quarterbacks? Running backs under rookie quarterbacks. The, you know, there's just the years of data on that one is I'm going to lean that I want the Justin Herbert offense.

[Mike Wright]

Did we. Did we talk? Did you guys talk? Kirk Cousins?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. You did okay. Yeah. I mean that. That could be. Kirk Cousins could be the dude for a good half a year there too. And obviously we're happy with QPI writing system.

[Jason Moore]

I genuinely think for. For Brock and for Genty that Fernando Mendoza senior is great for this team. I think he's going to start the beginning of the season and be very good. Yes. I am calling Kirk Cousins the father.

[Mike Wright]

I was putting father. I was trying to figure. So he's Fernando Mendoza senior.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I'm with you.

[Jason Moore]

Look at those two guys. They do look identical and they act identical. They are holding hands right now, skipping an Aspen and somehow wearing gold chains. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean there are two peas in a. Which of those three running backs scores the most touchdown?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a good question. I would take Hampton on the touchdown front.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Mike Wright]

Who sees the most total opportunities? That's hn right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, should be.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, let's turn the page here. Let's go ahead and hit a second group of keep trade, cut. And it's. It is a perfect group. They all hang out for sure. After the way that you're into. This is wide receivers from 2025 whose seasons ended on a sour note. Keep, trade cut. Garrett Wilson. I tried to come back, couldn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Lad McConkey. Woof. That was a letdown. Still a great player, just not for fantasy the way we would have liked. And then a Mecca Abuka. Everybody's darling to woof as well. I mean, this was to start the year. You're feeling good.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you. I mean, you were feeling like you had the next Justin Jefferson. Yeah. When you started the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Second most fancy points all time over his first five games.

[Mike Wright]

Let's listen to this guys, because I have to say, from week 11 on Abuka averaged three receptions and 33 yards. And McConkey averaged two and a half receptions in 26 yards. That is like, from. From Darlings. I mean, McConaughey was a monster the year before.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Saw his target share decline, and then both of those guys useless. That's not from, like, week 15 on. That's 11 on a deletion from your roster. And obviously, Garrett Wilson, with the injury deleted as well.

[Jason Moore]

At least with Ladd, you were able to bench him. You know what I mean? Like a mecca. Buka. At the end of the year, you kept going, like, I gotta play him. I've got. He's too good. He's. You kept plugging him in the lineup, and then he'd go out there and get his three catches. To me, the keep is Garrett Wilson. Garrett? Yeah. You're happy with that, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

Mike is. He's so happy, but he has no microphone.

[Andy Holloway]

Is my mute stuck on?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Check my mute.

[Jason Moore]

Josh.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm back.

[Mike Wright]

We're leaving that in, sir. All right. Mike was muted for a little while because Josh didn't like what he was saying.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you know, the thing is.

[Mike Wright]

Let me quote him. He said, huzzah.

[Jason Moore]

That was what she was. When I took. When I. When I. When I took Garrett Wilson with verbally just now as my keep. Mike Hazard. But because right now, Al Borland is on a cruise. We are. We are with the. We're with the backups.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You know what I mean? This is the new referees. And so we.

[Andy Holloway]

And we actually don't have a B team.

[Jason Moore]

Right. We're straight to the seat.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You guys are brutal.

[Jason Moore]

You think I'm a.

[Mike Wright]

Did you hit the mute button? Is that what happened?

[Andy Holloway]

I have, but I had let go. You want me to. Let's.

[Mike Wright]

You want to do a test microphone? I think he's terrified.

[Andy Holloway]

One, two, one. Oh, now it doesn't mute at all.

[Mike Wright]

Now.

[Jason Moore]

Now, you know, I know it's not their fault.

[Mike Wright]

I'll leave, but it could be sometimes. Look, just. Bar, is. Are we recording?

[Andy Holloway]

Josh, are we recording?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a great bar.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. His microphone is not working.

[Jason Moore]

He said yes into a microphone. We are falling apart. We're at the D team. We are. You guys are now the D team.

[Mike Wright]

He is sweating.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I can see he will knock his teeth out of here. Garrett Wilson, lad McConkey Abuka. I can tell you right now, it is. It is Garrett Wilson as the keep for me as well. With a. With a glance at a buca. You can't have I thought about this on the drive in this morning and this is all roster construction and philosophical differences between people. But I don't believe you can build a team where you know everything that you have. I just don't think you can do that. I don't think that the best idea

[Jason Moore]

for you're saying fantasy football roster construction.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasy football roster construction. You just. You can't draft all players. You know what you have, you have to have some risk that it can go either direction. Like a BUCA represents tremendous upside. And also, you know that it can go sour. To me, I feel like we do know what we have in lad McConkey. I do not see this guy. I don't think it's going to change for lad McConkey. He is not going to be your full offense. If anything, they're going to do more and more and more to take less, to take more off of him, to

[Jason Moore]

spread the ball around.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, the first year he was all that there was. You now drafted Hampton, you. You have more pass catch Gadsden, and he's just not prototypical. He's not the kind of guy that's going to carry the offense.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not. But there's a. There's 122 targets of Keenan Allen that will not likely be there.

[Mike Wright]

It's amazing that we always have Keenan Allen targets to talk about leaving no matter when.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's always because we think he's gone until about 10 minutes before kickoff and he'll sign a contract to be right back.

[Mike Wright]

No disrespect to McConkey. He's going to settle in the next five years as the wide receiver 21 to 29. That's what he's going to settle in as, in my opinion, if he. He might take over a game here and there. I don't think he's going to. The offense is not being built around him. It can be built around Garrett Wilson. No question it will be. And you have a quarterback now who, as much as I hate him, he's the best quarterback they've had in a long time. So Geno Smith. I'm going to take Garrett Wilson. I'm going to hope for the best for a Mecca Buca, and I'm going to cut lad McConkey.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I completely agree. And to speak to your roster construction point where you can't just take known assets. Yesterday on yesterday's Dynasty podcast, we were talking about when you're trying to trade low for people, you can't. When you think you're trading low for someone who had a down year, but the path towards success is just clear and obvious. Like, oh, okay, well, this guy was injured, his quarterback's upgraded, whatever. You're not going to really get to trade low. When you want to trade low for someone, it's because I don't know that it gets better. But you got to call your shot and that's when you're in the draft. There's going to be guys. Once you're after the first three rounds, there's going to be guys in each round that has a wider range of outcomes. You have to take some of those

[Mike Wright]

players for Tampa specifically, and there are a handful of other situations like this. When Mike Evans departs, you immediately go, hey, it's going to be better for a Buca. You also need to look at the other pass catching options that they have and say, hey, what do they have in Taz Johnson? What do they have in Jalen McMillan? Those guys, how can they get better? But Abuka's got an opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

We know that Mike Evans can't sign a contract with them and show back up like, you lost Keenan Allen, you lost Mike Evans, but Mike Evans is gone. So Ibuka has the opportunity to show that the beginning of the year was not a fluke and the beginning of the year was not. I mean, it might have been fluky, like touchdowns were really, really high, but they weren't fluky. Prior to the season, Baker was talking up how good this kid was. There's a reason prior to that, they drafted him in the first round. Prior to that, he was great at Ohio State. He had a bad stretch run down the second half of last year. He's a quality player. He. I think he will almost for sure be the wide receiver one Chris Godwin could be, but Meka Buka I think is their best.

[Mike Wright]

There's only one of these guys that won't be three for 33 ever.

[Jason Moore]

Garrett Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

Garrett Wills.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree with both of you guys. I would disagree of I think there is a stronger path forward for McConkey with their offensive line back to health and with Mike McDaniel in there, we don't like. How will the targets really shake out for that squad? I think it might get flipped on its head.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, I know you were. We've always, I think as a group really believed in lad McConkey as a talent.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Last year I was more out on him and I think it's good for you to speak positive of him. I just want people to Know you are the lowest on him.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fine, but not out loud.

[Mike Wright]

Just like secret ranking.

[Andy Holloway]

Not out loud, but it gives you. Right now, it's huge. Lad is Trey Harris. That's the starting three.

[Jason Moore]

Gadsden.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, I'm talking about the wide receiver position. Just so between those three guys, if they don't do anything else, I think there's a chance that Lad has the most targets in the room.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like fantasy value. Not play style necessarily, but fantasy value over the course of the career. Lad McConkey is Zay Flowers. He can have big games. He can. Zay surprisingly was a top 10 wide receiver this last year. Ladd was a top 12 wide receivers rookie year. But more than likely is going to be just a helpful asset, not someone you're. That you're winning a championship with because of.

[Mike Wright]

That's about how I feel. That's a good comp. Let's talk about some tight ends. If you want to talk tight ends. Tight ends with upside.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that ends with backside.

[Jason Moore]

That's why they call them tight ends.

[Andy Holloway]

Because of the yams.

[Mike Wright]

Because of their yams. Sam Laporta, Tucker Kraft, Harold Fannin.

[Jason Moore]

I know my cut.

[Mike Wright]

It's Laporta.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Fifteen red zone touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

We're already here with Sam Laporta. He was the dynasty tight end one like two years ago.

[Jason Moore]

Off the bridge. Oh, my God. My Things to Remember episode this off season was that middling tight ends absolutely don't matter whether you are the tight end 2 or the Titan 12 last

[Andy Holloway]

year, saying Laporte is already middling.

[Jason Moore]

100% he's middling at this point. He's. He's not going to be the tight end one ever again. He is not a target dominant. When I say middling, I basically on that episode was saying that there is. There's really two guys now that George Kittle is coming off an ACL. You've got Bowers and McKide. Sorry, Achilles. Even worse, Bowers and McBride and if not, then just punt the whole position forever. Now, the off season made moves that made it interesting. You have to get someone that can just be like the tight end one, otherwise they're irrelevant. And you had a showing from Tucker Kraft that was worthy of that. And Harold Fannin is.

[Mike Wright]

Sam Laporta was the tight end one.

[Jason Moore]

He was the tight end one. But that doesn't mean. At this stage I laughed because I

[Mike Wright]

thought I was going to go look and see a three or a two. He actually wasn't. No, I know.

[Jason Moore]

That was in his.

[Andy Holloway]

But it was with like 11 points a game. It was a real low scoring game.

[Mike Wright]

He's actually been almost the same point for game production. I mean, he's not been the same as year one, but, you know, he's, he's. We all agree that he is a. He's a trustworthy, competent contributor to the offense, but not. Is not going to be Travis Kelsey's Chiefs days with Sam Laporta. Yeah, Tucker Kraft, like, this is what I, this is my point that I was bringing up with the. Okay, a book has got an opportunity, but McMillan and Tez Johnson, these other guys pay attention to him. In Green Bay, everyone wants to. Oh, now Matthew golden can do something finally, because Dobbs is gone.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? The only thing standing in Matthew Golden's way was Romeo Dobbs.

[Mike Wright]

And then instead there's Tucker Kraft, there's Christian Watson. These are players that might be the bigger beneficiaries because they're proven.

[Jason Moore]

Jaden.

[Mike Wright]

What's that? Jaden Reed. Yeah, Jaden Reed. Tucker Kraft was on fire last year. Does he come back with the same ferocity? Because it was an isolated amount of games. It was some boom games.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's really tough. You could easily make the argument Tucker Kraft over Harold Fannin if it wasn't for the acl. But coming off of the acl, I know he's running in straight lines, jogging in straight lines. I saw the other day. His recovery, I'm guessing, is ahead of schedule.

[Andy Holloway]

Imagine not.

[Jason Moore]

Be so to me, if I'm going to take a shot in any early rounds, middle rounds on a tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

There are.

[Jason Moore]

There's only three guys I would take a middle round shot on and it would be last year's rookies, depending on what middle round is to you. But Harold Fannin, Colson, Loveland, Tyler Warren, you can see the path for them becoming absolute dominators. And Tucker Crafts, ACL gets in the way of that for me. So I would, I would keep Harold Fannin, trade Tucker Craft, trade Tucker Kraft

[Mike Wright]

and cut Sam Laporta, who you just. You really despise.

[Jason Moore]

I despise middle round tight ends. And he is a middle round. He is the definition of a middle round.

[Mike Wright]

If you could draft Harold Fannin in the sixth round or Tucker Kraft in the ninth round, which one would you take?

[Andy Holloway]

Tucker Kraft.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if it looks like he's healthy, I would take Tucker Craft. Like, if he's on track for week

[Mike Wright]

one, would you take Harold Fannin in the sixth round or Sam Laporte in the 11th round,

[Jason Moore]

sixth round for Fannin, probably. Fannin.

[Mike Wright]

There were rumors today about what? Cleveland and Kenyan Sadiq.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That they did a top 30 visit.

[Mike Wright]

That would be such a punch to the face.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, it would be terrible for both players.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

However, since I was telling, like, you

[Mike Wright]

have so many problems, Cleveland. Why. Why do this? You already hit on the. You hit on your tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I still hesitate a little bit more with Sadiq. So if you went to Cleveland, I'd be like, okay, that's. That's fine. But for my fan and it's fan.

[Andy Holloway]

It makes no sense where. I mean, they would have to, I don't know, move their pick. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

So we're all in agreement on this order or no. Are you considering keeping Tucker Kraft?

[Andy Holloway]

I am.

[Mike Wright]

You look like a guy considering that.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm willing to take on more risk. Tucker Kraft in. What do we have? Seven and a half games, scored 101 fantasy points. Harold Fannin played. I guess he got injured, so we'll put him at 15 games. In 15 games, he was 150 points.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, I. With a najoku the first seven weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Not. Not at the end, though.

[Jason Moore]

For Tucker Kraft, he had the seven. The seventh most points of any tight end over the last decade. So that, like, he was. The issue is he's not going to come back week one and be that same guy off the acl.

[Mike Wright]

How are his yams?

[Jason Moore]

His yams are. They're toasty. They're toasty. They're fine. They're not. Fannin's fan is. Got that fanny.

[Mike Wright]

You're saying Fannin's yams.

[Jason Moore]

Harold Fanning Jr.

[Mike Wright]

Harold Yams Yammy. Goodness gracious. It's so weird because it feels like Tucker Kraft had this big part. Like, he had such a big story.

[Andy Holloway]

The breakout was Kool Aid. Man came through the brick wall, and

[Mike Wright]

you were like, it was on a primetime crap.

[Andy Holloway]

I have Tucker Craft for. I got him for free.

[Jason Moore]

Seven for 143 and two touchdowns. And then he gets his ACL torn the next week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Just seven weeks of glory. All right, we'll take a break and we'll do a few more.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

I really want to know which of those tight ends Papa Josh would have kept. You know what I mean? Like, which one would you have kept?

[Jason Moore]

Can he talk? Yeah, I can talk.

[Mike Wright]

It was a setup. I don't care what you think about those guys.

[Jason Moore]

He's so.

[Andy Holloway]

I take it all back.

[Mike Wright]

I take it all back. Also, can you upgrade him?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you're back to the C team.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, if you. If he can talk and Mike can talk at the same time, then he's

[Jason Moore]

back to the C team is my mute.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Okay, we're back.

[Mike Wright]

This is B team stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

A mid show fix.

[Mike Wright]

A mid show.

[Jason Moore]

C team.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty impressive.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I got you, Josh. C plus.

[Jason Moore]

I'll go C plus.

[Andy Holloway]

C plus.

[Mike Wright]

You two. You two would love him to flunk him.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, for sure. You do anything else? I'm moving straight to an F9.

[Mike Wright]

Tension.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem with that, Jay, you're insinuating that there's like a B minus team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you. You open up a whole. You can't do that.

[Jason Moore]

That's fine. I am fine bringing pluses and minuses into this.

[Mike Wright]

I am fine with what I.

[Jason Moore]

This show is about nuance, you know?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there's fan fannies. Late round quarterback keep trade cut Dak Herbert Dart.

[Andy Holloway]

Which. These, these. This is best ball ADP right now. But Dak. Dak is the qb. Eight people finally woke up. Oh, hey, Dak, who when he plays the whole season is always awesome.

[Mike Wright]

So let me make.

[Andy Holloway]

We're finally allowing that to be the truth.

[Mike Wright]

Let me make a comp for Dak and see if you guys disagree with me. There was a period of Ben Roethlisberger's career.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Where he was perennially never drafted. And you just kind of knew in the right games, even for the right stretches, he could just like Big Ben. I hate to see him across on my opponent's team. Even though Big Ben was like, what, quarterback? 10 every year. I hated to see it because you knew you could just throw six touchdowns that game.

[Andy Holloway]

He definitely could. There was a. There was a couple years in there where they were throwing a ton, but it's just. But Dak has literally been great if he plays all season.

[Jason Moore]

He's never not been a quarterback one in his entire career.

[Mike Wright]

Which one of these three is coolest?

[Jason Moore]

Jackson Dart.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's pretty drippy.

[Mike Wright]

Jackson Dart.

[Andy Holloway]

Herbert's the nerd.

[Jason Moore]

Definitely

[Mike Wright]

Dax.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty cool too.

[Mike Wright]

Isn't he dating like Alison Brer or something like that? No, no, that's.

[Jason Moore]

That's the album someone.

[Mike Wright]

Who am I thinking about?

[Andy Holloway]

Madison Beer.

[Mike Wright]

Madison Beer. Oh, I got it close.

[Andy Holloway]

How does one get a last name of Beer?

[Jason Moore]

You just gotta have heritage of drinking. It's like old grandpa Beer.

[Andy Holloway]

Like that. Excuse me. That's Dr. Be. Mr. Beer.

[Mike Wright]

How do you come over here?

[Andy Holloway]

How do you get taken serious when your last name is Beer?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know, man.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Jackson Dar.

[Jason Moore]

Do they have to wait till they're 21 to like inherit that name? Can they be a little kid and be like Beer before they. Yeah, exactly. It's me, Madison Root Beer.

[Mike Wright]

We are dumb. Dak Herbert Dart. I feel like a similar conversation can be had here about Dart. Do you know what you have? Jackson Dart is the most enigmatic high upside. We don't know what we don't know situation. Herbert has some of that mixed in with Mike McDaniel's arrival and the potential for the offense. And then Dak. It was really, really good. I mean, George plus CD equals Dax going to be good. He's more of an injury risk. Than the other. Well, maybe not Than the other two guys. Yeah, than.

[Andy Holloway]

And Dart.

[Jason Moore]

Dart.

[Mike Wright]

He's got name fatigue then.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it's. It's interesting because there are different play styles here. I'm always going to prefer. Prefer

[Andy Holloway]

what? It didn't even sound funny. Did it sound funny to you?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, but it reminded. It reminded me of a stupid thing we do when we play pickleball whenever it's four to four.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's fur.

[Jason Moore]

Fur to fur. I said prefer.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

It brought me right back to when we're serving fur. Fur to fur.

[Andy Holloway]

Kind of a Swedish chef.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, exactly. So anyways, now the Foot clan knows how to properly score.

[Mike Wright]

Criticizing Josh.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, this is a plus work over here.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sorry.

[Jason Moore]

This is why they listen.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sorry.

[Jason Moore]

Anyways, I prefer the mobile rushing quarterback. So even though you know, I have always been a Dax Stan and I will never stop loving Justin Herbert, I would prefer to have Jackson Dart. The option of one of these guys finishing as the quarterback one. A real true like season winning performance. I need you to rush for 700 yards.

[Mike Wright]

I mean if I tell you that Neighbors is not himself until week 10.

[Jason Moore]

Oh well, then Jackson Dart will be the wrong pick. Jackson.

[Andy Holloway]

But what if I told you at pick number five they drafted Carnell Tate?

[Jason Moore]

But what if I told you, Andy, that when you are constructing a fantasy football roster, you sometimes need guys you don't know how they could finish?

[Mike Wright]

I just feel like you're gonna have to pay. You're gonna have to pay for that mystery with Dart.

[Jason Moore]

He's the cheapest of these three currently.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, on Underdog right now they are QB 8, 9 and 11. But in terms of ADP, it's Dak is at 79 and Dart is at 86. So they all go right next to each other.

[Mike Wright]

I'll tell you a secret. When his boy Cam Scatterboo is healthy and back at camp and when Malik Neighbors is running routes, they will not go in this order.

[Jason Moore]

I completely agree. Possible Dak will it tumble? George will absolutely tumble. You want to know why Dak is this high right now? Genuinely, it's because it's this time of year and we're getting the paid drafts. It's smarter drafters and they know what Dak is when. When the Casuals all come back. Dak has total name fatigue and is.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a guy who can't win playoff

[Jason Moore]

games and then I'll.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't care.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I might take Dak when he's the last of the Three of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Dak it.

[Mike Wright]

It's. I mean he did. He had a. He struggled to end the year. If you remember. He had a great run. And then if you needed him in the last like week 15, 16, those were. Those were tougher. But had a nice week 17 against Washington but not really crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

We need to know what's going on with George because he is like they franchise tagged him.

[Mike Wright]

I think he's happy. I think he's happy to come back and play.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not signed.

[Mike Wright]

No, he isn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh no.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh no.

[Mike Wright]

Pitts is the one who signed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. George is going to take this thing to the limit.

[Jason Moore]

Oh he's like, I don't have to practice.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And he is George Pickens.

[Andy Holloway]

George. Yeah. There's. George Pickens was a. Was waiting to be George Beer we're talking about. But he had. George has his own stuff that. I mean the Pittsburgh got rid of him for a reason. And it's what I honestly have. I have no read. I don't know what the Cowboys are going to do here. I don't know. Will we get a classic Jerry Jones? We wait until training camp. George Pickens still hasn't shown up. Then they finally give him the contract and he's not in shape to play football. Do they trade him? I think that that is still a possibility that could happen and that's a huge range of outcomes for just George Pickens the player. If George is not there, then I still like Dak. But he. But Dak would not be my choice if I knew it was just CD Lamb. So my answer is probably dart no matter what. But if I know that George is there, ready to go. I don't mind taking the safety of Dak Prescott and getting out of the Jackson Dart headbutting everybody.

[Mike Wright]

Remember when Herbert was the quarterback two to start the year with a monster 318 three game and everybody jumped.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Nobody would trade him if they had him.

[Jason Moore]

And then you remember he lost all of his offensive lineman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But that's the story. The truth is even though I love Herbert, I would. I would rather have Dak than Herbert. So it would go dart. Dak Herbert.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of like waiting to press the accelerator on Jackson Dart right now. Feel I want to but there are a lot. I mean there's new offense, injured weapons, draft picks to be had a lot going on there Last one here.

[Andy Holloway]

When was the. But it's like neighbors got hurt in week four. Jackson Dart started. Week four was his first Start.

[Mike Wright]

So, I mean, hurt on his sideline throw.

[Andy Holloway]

All the great things that Jackson Dart did last year were without a number one wide receiver or turning, you could say, oh, he turned Wondale Robinson into a number one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, Dart was, Dart was okay. He wasn't great. 17, 17 a game.

[Andy Holloway]

It was pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, for a rookie without weapons and you know he's going to run.

[Andy Holloway]

He had the one devastating game in

[Mike Wright]

7 for 13 for 33 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I remember that semi championship round. He had a weak losing performance.

[Mike Wright]

You had the zero points. Did it?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. But right before that was 22 and then championship week was 25.

[Jason Moore]

Those were playoffs. That's a season losing performance.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. Isn't that Scat's number? Isn't he?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, he is pretty fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Stupid.

[Mike Wright]

Last one. Malik. Neighbors, Trey McBride, Kenneth Walker.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I'm going. I recused myself.

[Mike Wright]

These are mid second round picks. Neighbors, Trey McBride, Kenneth Walker, wide receiver, tight end, running back. You know, it's, it's hard when you just play key trade cut. You're not considering anything other than these names. To not want the positional advantage that Trey McBride is going to represent with Jacoby Brissette and what he was able to do last year. Neighbors injury unknown Ken Walker. The sky's the limit. It's also, you know, he's, he's. I'm keeping Trey McBride as my answer. I'm going to trade.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the safe pick.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's, he's completely 100% safe. Trey McBride. Nothing can go wrong for McBride.

[Andy Holloway]

It can go wrong as in he doesn't get the amount of receptions.

[Mike Wright]

He'll be fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Like he'll still be fine. He'll be a top three guy.

[Mike Wright]

But yeah, I mean he will be 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

Will he make a difference?

[Jason Moore]

The way it goes wrong is he's injured.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he had 111 receptions two years ago. He had 126 last year. I don't even want 26. If you give me 111 and you don't.

[Jason Moore]

If you give him a.

[Mike Wright]

And you don't just score two times like he did two years ago.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Mike Wright]

He will be fine. McBride is the easy keep for me.

[Jason Moore]

I am 100% right there with you. Like I said, it's usually been Brock Bowers, Trey McBride and then check out at the position.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like I'm trading Ken Walker's hype and then I'm just going to cut the injured dude. That feels bad.

[Jason Moore]

I Am very curious where these two guys, both Neighbors and Walker not compared to each other, but independently. I'm so curious where they're going to be drafted at the draft. I think I would prefer to take Walker because I expect Neighbors to get off to a slightly slower start due to coming off of the ACL injury. But yeah, I mean maybe if the news is good and Neighbors is back on the field, he's going to have more hype than Walker and be, you know, a back of the first round pick.

[Mike Wright]

Let's have the Walker.

[Andy Holloway]

Neighbors won't make it to the first.

[Mike Wright]

Do you not. Do you not see a world where Ken Walker is just like the running back 18 this year?

[Andy Holloway]

Eight. Not 18.

[Jason Moore]

I would be surprised.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Not 18.

[Mike Wright]

Is this old, old issues I got with this dude?

[Andy Holloway]

It could be. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean let's just get, you know, when you. I'll get on the couch. Let's deal with this.

[Jason Moore]

What is this his fifth year?

[Andy Holloway]

Is that right?

[Jason Moore]

Four years on a rookie contract. It was in the first round. Yep. It'll be year five when, when you're going into year five and you have been basically disappointed by a player every single year, including this year where he was the super bowl champion. But for fantasy it was a disappointing year where he finally was stayed healthy. I don't blame you for being like not this time. Not this time, Ken.

[Mike Wright]

Isn't it like there's something ironic about a player that you've always had expectations for who's always been deserving of the production and who for four consecutive years has never given it to you to the degree that like you're just putting never matched hope. Yeah. So then you've got a bunch of new hope on another team. But in the back of my mind I'm going, well, like what shoe drops to make this not work.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying you have no idea what it's going to be but it will happen something. Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to bet on the money and that contract. If you look at when a running back gets a certain level of contract in the off season, they tend to perform well. And the fact that he's on Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid team, he doesn't have a lot of competition. Obviously he can get injured. We know that for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

For sure.

[Mike Wright]

Oh gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

All running backs can. I would say the. If you, if so, if you go just, you know what, we're playing this game. You keep Kenneth Walker. If Kenneth Walker has a great week one. Everyone believes like the way that fantasy football works with all of this, it's going to be months and months of discussing, I will believe, talking about Kenneth Walker. If Walker goes out week one, has 80 on the ground, has a couple of catches and a score. Everyone will push every chip in and then. And he will be.

[Jason Moore]

Are you saying trade him?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you could. I'm saying you could. But like you could set.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying Andy could because he's trying to get out.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't trade. I can't trade Walker ever.

[Mike Wright]

It is. It is all of Walker's storyline and then it is all of Chiefs running back, potential storylines and both have never matched up. The other than Kareem Hunt, who.

[Andy Holloway]

It's definitely matched up. It just hasn't for a while.

[Mike Wright]

Well, after Cream Hunt, we've been begging for it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

That's all I'm saying. Like Kareem Hunt started the storyline for it. Like Kareem Hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

I would say Jamal Charles started it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Shady.

[Mike Wright]

Well, ever since Cream Hunt departed, we've been waiting for the next Cream Hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

And it Clyde Edwards and then, you know, Isaiah Pacheco was mixed in there, but we also had other guys that were added to the roster. We had the Darwin Thompsons, we had the Rashad Smiths.

[Andy Holloway]

Damian Williams had a flash.

[Jason Moore]

I think the truth is if you look at the actual talent that they have had since Cream Hunt, it hasn't been good. Like Isaiah Pacheco we had high hopes for. He's a seventh round pick. That was like Damian Williams. We've had flashes, but Clyde Edwards allaire, they thought that they were drafting that dude, but turns out he's not that good. He's just really not that good. It wasn't the team letting him down. It was him just not being that good. If someone is actually talented, an above average top 10 type of talent, they

[Andy Holloway]

have a strong line.

[Jason Moore]

I think they will get a lot out of the position.

[Mike Wright]

Now I'm gonna work on this.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna do my best. It's gonna take some time.

[Andy Holloway]

And be enemy is back. Like, I think that really matters.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Is it more important that he's back or that Nagy's gone?

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh.

[Jason Moore]

Addition by subtraction.

[Mike Wright]

It's more important that Andy Reid's still there.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's a. Is perfectly balanced.

[Jason Moore]

Perfectly balanced. It's the knife.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yeah, it's the Thanos knife. Everything in balance.

[Mike Wright]

Next week we're going to get into our top 15 running backs and our top 15 wide receivers on the show, so that'll be a fun one. Anything Any parting words guys? Anything else you have to I'm excited

[Jason Moore]

to talk through the running backs and wide receivers next next week.

[Mike Wright]

All right. If you want to jump into the Dynasty Pass and the Ultimate Draft Kit, no better time than now. You can get it at a pre order discount at ultimate draft kit.com or become an Ultimate Foot Clan [e-mail] We'll talk to you on Tuesday.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter @the ffballers.

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