Late Round Gold, Best Ball Bonanza, Maaaailbag!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - "Late Round Gold, Best Ball Bonanza, Maaaailbag!"

Release Date: July 14, 2018

Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Introduction

The episode kicks off with the hosts welcoming listeners from Draft.com Studios. Mike Wright introduces a giveaway for a signed Keenan Allen baby blue jersey, setting an engaging and interactive tone for the show.

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2. Mailbag Segment

The primary content revolves around listener questions, offering expert advice on various fantasy football strategies.

a. Quarterback Strategies in Small Leagues (8-Team Leagues)

• Listener Question: Peter from California inquires whether to draft a top-tier quarterback like Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson early in an 8-team league or to wait and stream quarterbacks throughout the season.

• Discussion:

  • Andy Holloway [03:41]: Emphasizes that in smaller leagues, streaming quarterbacks is feasible due to fewer teams. However, he acknowledges that Aaron Rodgers is a consistent QB1, while Russell Wilson has been a top-three QB for several years.

  • Mike Wright [03:25]: Agrees with waiting unless a quarterback like Gronk is available, highlighting the importance of positional advantage in smaller leagues.

  • Conclusion: Both Mike and Andy recommend waiting on drafting a quarterback, suggesting that in an 8-team league, managers can effectively stream QBs without sacrificing potential positional advantages.

b. Favorite Last-Round Picks

• Listener Question: C. Brophy asks about favorite players to grab in the very last rounds of mock drafts.

• Discussion:

  • Andy's Picks [04:08]:

    • Antonio Gates: Andy believes Gates is undervalued and can secure 8-9 touchdowns with limited targets.
    • Geronimo Allison: If available, Anderson adds Allison as a preferred late-round tight end over Gates due to guaranteed roles.

  • Mike's Picks [05:33]:

    • Dez Bryant: Although not typically a last-round pick, Mike argues Bryant will secure a role despite past inefficiencies.

  • Additional Recommendations:

    • Kenneth Dixon [06:32]: Suggested by Andy as a high-upside running back for the Baltimore Ravens.
    • Dede Westbrook [07:24]: Highlighted by Mike as a dynamic receiver emerging as a valuable late-round pick in a "gross" situation with the Jaguars.
    • Other Notables: Keelan Cole, Dante Moncrief, Larry Fitzgerald, Emmanuel Sanders, Pierre Garcon, Amari Cooper, Chris Hogan, Sammy Watson.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Andy Holloway [04:47]: "If I'm doing more mock drafts, not necessarily best ball, I prefer Geronimo Allison over Antonio Gates because Geronimo has a guaranteed job."
  • Mike Wright [07:24]: "Invest in one of those gross situations with the last pick."

c. Expansion Draft Strategies

• Listener Question: Andrew from Twitter asks how to add two expansion teams to a 10-man dynasty league with 30-player rosters without significantly disadvantaging existing managers.

• Discussion:

  • Mike Wright [25:54]: Suggests implementing an expansion draft similar to the NFL, where existing teams protect a certain number of players, and expansion teams draft from the remaining pool.
  • Andy Holloway [26:13]: Recommends limiting how many players an existing team can lose to prevent disproportionate impacts.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Mike Wright [25:54]: "You need to have some situation similar to the NFL where there's a number of guys you can protect on your team."

d. Impact of New NFL Helmet Rules

• Listener Question: Brock from Twitter inquires about the impact of new helmet safety rules on the running back position and overall draft strategy.

• Discussion:

  • Andy Holloway [27:16]: Believes the helmet rules are unlikely to significantly affect fantasy strategies.
  • Mike Wright [28:00]: References an article from Bleacher Report discussing the subjective nature of the new rules but maintains that they shouldn't drastically alter fantasy perspectives.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Andy Holloway [28:11]: "I don't think it's going to be called very often."

e. Draft Position Preferences

• Listener Question: Aaron from the UK asks about favorite and least favorite draft positions.

• Discussion:

  • Andy Holloway [29:16]: Dislikes drafting at the turn (e.g., 12th position) due to the inability to strategize around picking the next available player.
  • Mike Wright [29:28]: Prefers being near the turn rather than stuck in positions with poor strategic options.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Andy Holloway [29:28]: "On the turn, don't throw ADP out the window. ADP is irrelevant if you're on the turn."

f. Comparing Team Scoring Potential

• Listener Question: Martin from Nebraska asks which pair of teammates is projected to score more combined PPR points: Alvin Camara & Michael Thomas or Odell Beckham Jr. & Saquon Barkley.

• Discussion:

  • Andy Holloway [30:12]: Leans towards Camara and Thomas for higher combined PPR points.
  • Mike Wright [30:31]: Supports the Saints duo but acknowledges the Giants' potential if Saquon Barkley outperforms expectations.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Andy Holloway [30:26]: "I think I would have to go Saints, too."

g. Personal Preferences: Beard vs. Tattoos

• Listener Interaction: Mike Wright engages with Mike from Jobu's Ghost regarding choosing between keeping a beard or tattoos.

• Discussion:

  • Mike [31:44]: Chooses to keep tattoos over a beard, valuing the versatility of hair styling.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Mike [31:45]: "I'll keep my tattoos then, because I can do cool things with my hair."

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3. Best Ball Bonanza Segment

The hosts transition into discussing Best Ball strategies, highlighting Mike Wright's unique approach.

• Mike Wright's Best Ball Strategy [34:10]:

  • Roster Composition:

    • Quarterbacks: Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston
    • Tight Ends: Rob Gronkowski and Luke Wilson
    • Running Backs: Melvin Gordon, Darius Geiss, Ty Montgomery, Latavius Murray, Kenneth Dixon, Kalen Balage
    • Wide Receivers: Larry Fitzgerald, Marvin Jones, Cooper Kupp, Randall Cobb, Dez Bryant, Tyrell Williams, Quincy Anunwa

  • Strategy Highlights:

    • Early investment in quarterbacks and tight ends.
    • Emphasis on securing high-upside players late in drafts.
    • Balancing locked-in starters with "lotto tickets" for potential breakout performances.

• Hosts' Analysis [35:43]:

  • Andy Holloway: Critiques the heavy reliance on Gronkowski and Russell Wilson, noting the high-risk nature of such a strategy.
  • Mike Wright: Acknowledges the strategy's divergence from typical advice but defends it as a high-reward approach.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Andy Holloway [35:08]: "Draft.com Ballers, the wild west."
  • Mike Wright [34:33]: "There’s a lot at stake, a lot of money, and they’re giving away a million dollars in prizes."

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4. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with reminders about upcoming live shows in Philadelphia and New York, promoting listener engagement and community building. The hosts encourage listeners to join their fantasy football community and follow them on social media for ongoing insights and updates.

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Key Takeaways

• Last Round Picks: Target undervalued players with guaranteed roles or high upside.

• Quarterback Strategy: In smaller leagues, waiting on QB can be advantageous, but securing a top-tier QB like Aaron Rodgers may still offer significant benefits.

• Expansion Drafts: Implement protection rules similar to the NFL to balance the addition of new teams.

• Rule Changes: New NFL helmet rules are unlikely to drastically impact fantasy strategies but should be monitored.

• Best Ball Strategies: High-risk, high-reward approaches like Mike's can lead to significant rewards but come with substantial risks.

• Draft Positioning: Avoid drafting at positions that limit strategic flexibility, such as being stuck on the turn.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Andy Holloway [04:47]: "If I’m doing more mock drafts, not necessarily best ball, I prefer Geronimo Allison over Antonio Gates because Geronimo has a guaranteed job."

• Mike Wright [07:24]: "Invest in one of those gross situations with the last pick."

• Andy Holloway [28:11]: "I don’t think it’s going to be called very often."

• Mike Wright [29:28]: "That’s true. That’s not fun. Martin in Nebraska…"

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Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Ah, welcome in little little longer today.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Of course, of course, of course. Dad.

[Mike Wright]

Over here.

[Andy Holloway]

Uncle.

[Mike Wright]

I prefer Danny Tanner, but whatever.

[Jason Moore]

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[Unknown Speaker]

To be fair, back when we were growing up and you had Nick at.

[Mike Wright]

Night, I didn't have cable, Mike.

[Unknown Speaker]

Okay, I'm speaking directly to Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm listening.

[Unknown Speaker]

When you had Nick at night because Nickelodeon was hijacked by the adults and they. They took over and they.

[Mike Wright]

Is that when Gilligan's island was on?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. And it was like I Love Lucy and the older sitcoms. Gilligan's island was a true delight. It's a great show.

[Mike Wright]

It'll. It'll feel like a three hour tour. Today we're going through the mailbag on this fine Saturday, July 14th. We're all here, we're all excited. I've got a great quick question. Or to remind you footclangiveaway.com giving away a sign Keenan Allen, baby blue jersey.

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

I sit down, I click a button, I go, what happened? And then I get a bunch of questions and I answer them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So YouTube.com fantasy footballers. The fantasy footballers.com is the website. All right, quick question of the day. Who is someone that you have been constantly grabbing in the very last round of your mock drafts? This came in from C. Brophy. He said he picks Brandon Marshall. He says he's got a chip on his shoulder and a lot to prove. What, like Adrian Peterson, Right? Yeah, but who.

[Unknown Speaker]

Brandon Marshall has nothing to prove. It's. Yeah, the only thing he's going to prove is that his NFL career is.

[Mike Wright]

Done touchdowns in neon. Mike, he hasn't done touchdowns in neon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think that's true. That holds up. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So who's your favorite last round pick right now? What do you think, Jay?

[Andy Holloway]

I will say this. The guy that is my truest. Like, I saw the question instead of just looking at adp, I went to all my best ball drafts and I looked at my 17th and 18th pick to see who I was actually drafting the most, and it was actually Andy's pick. So I will. I will hold off on saying that. And instead I went to kind of my second and third place. If I'm in best ball right now, which I usually am over@the draft.com ballers. My favorite last round pick right now.

[Unknown Speaker]

Is shocking to me.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Antonio Gates. Because look, if Antonio Gates gets what I expect him to do, which is a contract, a contract as the starting tight end, you know, he's with. With Hunter Henry gone, Antonio Gates is going to have eight, nine touchdowns this year, you know, on his 12 targets. Whoa. In the nine is good as a last round pick for tight end where I can kind of punt the position. I like that. If I'm doing more mock drafts, not necessarily best ball. The end of, you know, when you're around the 200th pick or so, if Geronimo Allison. Oh, yes.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

If he's on there, I mean, I'm 100% grabbing him. I would much rather have Geronimo, who has a job, than Antonio Gates. But I still do think that Antonio Gates is undervalued right now.

[Mike Wright]

I like that Mike took it upon himself to mock the fact that Antonio Gates does not have a contract, when in fact the answer to his question is DEZ Bryant.

[Unknown Speaker]

But the answer to the question is not DEZ Bryant because you can't get him in the last round. But here's. Here's my explanation for that. Dez Bryant, 100% will have a job next year. I believe that Antonio Gates, the signs point to that he's interested in the Chargers. The Chargers are interested in him. They passed the note back and forth with do you like me? And they checked maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

And he wrote back, I like you, minus training camp. That said no problem.

[Unknown Speaker]

Antonio Gates, very, very old. DEZ Bryant is not at. He is. No, no, no, no.

[Mike Wright]

You're getting a scolding look. He's not Gates.

[Andy Holloway]

He didn't look super young.

[Unknown Speaker]

Look, last year was not great, but DEZ Bryant will have a job. I just wanted to bring up that DEZ Bryant is an incredible value. We will be talking about him later in the.

[Mike Wright]

He's only a value, don't you think? He's only a value because he has no team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, yes.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh yeah, 100%. But we're going to talk about him in the Best Ball Bonanza segment. We're going to go over my. My team. While I was on vacation, I did a draft to enter the Best Ball championship where there's a lot of moolah on the line.

[Andy Holloway]

Des Bryant, Antonio Brown, Antonio Gates. Those guys remind me of when you're in basketball early in the off season before the NFL draft and rookies are in the draft because they're undervalued, always undervalued. It's a, it's a easy, cheap way to get a win, which is what I like.

[Unknown Speaker]

But my favorite last second to last round pick right now where I've been able to get him, it's Kenneth Dixon and running back for the running back for Baltimore Ravens. Jason once again shakes his head at me because of his infatuation with Alex Collins. I like Alex Collins too, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, it's not as much as.

[Mike Wright]

I zero sum game with Jason.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes. And here's There's a zero risk, massive, massive upside with Kenneth Dixon that he could not only earn a starting job if something were to happen to Alex Collins, he can actually play his way to be the starting running running back for the Baltimore Rangers.

[Mike Wright]

You mean the way Alex Collins did last year?

[Unknown Speaker]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Andy Holloway]

I will grant you that.

[Mike Wright]

And they run the ball well.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not a terrible pick at the last round. Risk versus reward. I just believe in Alex Collins, so I don't want to believe in Kenneth Dixon.

[Unknown Speaker]

But it's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

The logic holds up.

[Mike Wright]

My favorite last round pick, which apparently was one of Jason's favorites, is Dede Westbrook, wide receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay, Mike, brought up on the live show in Minneapolis. There are gross situations in the NFL right now and ones that you kind of want to avoid, but the reality is that somebody has to Emerge as a relevant fantasy option in Jacksonville. Maybe a couple of guys, say whatever you want about Dante Moncrief. It hasn't come to fruition. Just because he got changed teams and got a big contract for a one year deal doesn't mean that he'll be a fruitful fantasy player. Money doesn't do that.

[Andy Holloway]

We know every single season we have this. I mean, this is a guaranteed fact. Whoever gets off to a really hot start in a season, or conversely, whoever gets off to a really poor start in the season, that carries so much more weight through the rest of the season and the following season. Dede Westbrook last year started the year injured. Nobody cared about him, nobody drafted him, Nobody was paying attention to him. He didn't get in until Week 10. But from Week 10 through 16, he was on pace for 117 targets and 775 yards, which would be great numbers for a rookie. I mean, those would, you know, be much better than Corey Davis.

[Mike Wright]

Marquis Lee was very inefficient. If you look at the numbers, reception, perception, the results were bad. If you wanted to just take Dee Dee Westbrook out and substitute the name Keelan Cole, I'll let you do that. If you want to make that your last round pick, that's fine, too. He was dynamic. He was great in the very end of the year. Had some big games against big opponents. So if you, if that's your pick, I've seen that a lot, too. Keelan Cole, DD Westbrook. All I'm saying is invest in one of those gross situations with the last pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you be okay if they took Keelan Cole out and put Dante Moncrief in?

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're just saying a Jags wide receiver with your last pick.

[Mike Wright]

Take your whatever one your favorite is.

[Unknown Speaker]

Blake Bortles has been a top 10 quarterback twice and I got a snake man. Thank you. And he was 13 this past season, which in Jason's estimation, That's basically a quarterback one.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask, did he play 16 games?

[Unknown Speaker]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, Marcus Mariota only played 15 games, so he would have been a quarterback one. Go on. Moving on.

[Mike Wright]

All right, a reminder, we'll be in Philadelphia and New York on back to back nights July 26th and 27th. If you want to come and see a live show and be a part of this podcast, go to ballerslive.com before they sell out.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

It's harder to buy tickets once they're sold out.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a proven fact.

[Mike Wright]

More difficult.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

All right, guys, without further ado we're getting in the mailbag. We're going to do some best ball advice as well at the end of the show. Mike, you got them pipes ready?

[Unknown Speaker]

Me, me, meow.

[Mike Wright]

It's good to have you back. All right, if you have a question for the fantasy footballers, we want to help you out. Go to the website, click the Submit a question button or you can dial our voicemail hotline, 302-4464 TFF. Leave your voicemail question. I think Brooks enjoys it if you mess up on the first couple recordings. He certainly does and then get it right. But we'll start out with a voicemail question.

[Peter]

Hi guys, this is Peter in California. I'm about to draft an eight team league and I'm wondering what I should do at quarterback. Normally I wait on quarterback and stream throughout the year but I know you guys talk a lot about in smaller leagues you want that positional advantage. So should I grab an Aaron Rodgers or a Russell Wilson early in the draft or should I just grab a quarterback with my last pick and stream all year because it's going to be easier with more guys in the waiver. Thanks, guys. Love the show.

[Mike Wright]

Bye. All right, thanks for the question, Peter. I think my answer goes this direction with that. I mean I'm pretty sure I know these guys answer but if you have to say the word or when it comes to quarterbacks, you wait still. Okay. Unless there was somebody like Gronk is, there's no or.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

And so in a league that's eight teams you don't have to say or you know, he's the positional advantage and you can jump on him. Well, that fair?

[Andy Holloway]

That's very fair. I thought you were going to say exactly what what I was thinking which was Aaron Rodgers. Sure. Russell Wilson is not in the tier of. He doesn't have the history. He's got a long history of finishing as a quarterback one. But in an eight team league you're going to be able to stream a quarterback one blindfolded. Aaron Rodgers is the only guy with a history of finishing as the quarterback one over and over and over.

[Unknown Speaker]

However, Russell Wilson's been top three three of the last four years. Well, so that's a pretty solid recent history.

[Andy Holloway]

It's pretty solid. But now you've got Brandon Marshall. I'm just saying instead of Paul Richardson now you've got in Schottenheimer as the offensive coordinator. Wanted to run the ball. I just, I'm not huge on.

[Mike Wright]

I would wait. That's what I would do. Mike, would you wait.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, 100% I would be waiting. But I, in an 18 league, I do prioritize Gronk and it's not a Gronk or this because Kelsey Ertz are not in the same tier as Gronk. But I do prioritize getting one of those guys in, in that small league.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you're not going to give up. Your team's still going to great.

[Unknown Speaker]

Everyone's team is going to be incredible. So you got to find those slight advantages.

[Mike Wright]

You got to be, you got to be incredible. Or Jason would say if your league.

[Andy Holloway]

Has not started yet, which I assume it has not, you're talking about the draft. I would recommend if you're in an eight team league, add a couple extra flex positions. It's going to make the league far more fun. I would love, I would much rather play. And then you know, an eight man league that's got three flex spots, then a 12, you know, 12 owner league that has two poor owners and that are, you know, not.

[Unknown Speaker]

That changes things that don't have a lot of money changes things for the, for Gronk's advantage. If you, you want to kind of take that out of the equation, add more flex spots.

[Mike Wright]

Let me ask you a follow up, Mike, because last week when you were gone, the question came in about small leagues like this and whether you would extend or reduce bench spots to make it more competitive. And I think we kind of answered oppositely because I was thinking if you have fewer bench spots then it's easier for people to just quick stream and if you have more bench spots, you know, maybe it's more competitive on the waiver wire. Which side do you lean on?

[Unknown Speaker]

For a smaller league I lean for more starting positions. So instead of one flex, I'm going, I'm going to go three flex. And one of those is a super flex because. And I want to make the quarterback more valuable. In an 18 league everyone's going to have an incredible quarterback make it. So you have to start two quarterbacks, make things deeper and have a larger bench.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Dustin in Michigan says hey ballers. On this day He In 1963 my mother was born.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, congratulations.

[Unknown Speaker]

Happy birthday.

[Mike Wright]

Guess how old that makes her. That one snuck up on me a little bit. Also I'm a huge long suffering Lions fan. So he's enormous. I think there's a real possibility.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge. He said he's huge.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not. There's a real possibility that Kenny G is Lions wide receiver one this year. This is what he's, I think there's okay what he thinks. I try not to reach for players but I might not be able to keep help myself with all of those smooth.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh look, the routes.

[Mike Wright]

They're smooth, smooth routes.

[Unknown Speaker]

They are. They are oh so incredibly smooth.

[Mike Wright]

But are they smooth enough for a.

[Unknown Speaker]

One Happy birthday to your mother Dustin. But there is not a real possibility of Kenny G being the number one wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

That'd be a big leap.

[Unknown Speaker]

That would mean Marvin Jones suffered a season long injury in training camp. If you want to reach Golden Tate decided to retire.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't, I don't have a staying.

[Mike Wright]

With him at the hospital.

[Andy Holloway]

I see a lot of upside with Kenny.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'll never leave you, Marvin.

[Andy Holloway]

With Kenny Golladay I see the upside there. I'm fine with you believing that he relevant player not to the wide receiver one but reaching for him. He's going in the 12th round. So if you reach for him, don't take it before the 10th. The 10th round is a reach and at that point take the guys you like. When I get to double digits, I want the guys that I like and so that's where I would recommend taking.

[Mike Wright]

I was digging into some stats yesterday and saw that Matthew Stafford, he was in the top five quarterback wise and throwing the go route, you know, the fly.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

And he was the most efficient by far. Like the most go routes converted into completions. That's because of Marvin Jones.

[Unknown Speaker]

I was going to say so in.

[Mike Wright]

My Kenny G and Kenny G. But more, I mean far more to Marvin.

[Unknown Speaker]

In my scenario where Marvin Jones is not playing and Kenny G is the number one, Matthew Stafford's efficiency is going to go way down.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Neil from Twitter has a question. Maybe this is lame, but who are some solid wide receivers that can fill your third wide receiver position and contribute weekly?

[Andy Holloway]

Larry Fitzgerald, first guy that comes to mind. He's just one of those.

[Unknown Speaker]

Did you say third wide receiver? You can't get him as a. As a third.

[Mike Wright]

He's going Emmanuel Sanders if you want to bring his name up as a wide receiver. 3.

[Unknown Speaker]

Larry's going in the back of the third because people are giving him at least some of the respect they listen to our show.

[Mike Wright]

Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

A month ago he was in the fifth round.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, not anymore.

[Mike Wright]

By the way, just because we like Larry Fitzgerald does not make us homers. If you don't go look at his stat line, people.

[Unknown Speaker]

Wait. The guy who's coming off.

[Mike Wright]

I saw we got a. We got a four star review for liking Larry Fitzgerald, the Hall of Famer.

[Andy Holloway]

The guy who's been a top 10.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasy wide receiver who had 100 receptions.

[Unknown Speaker]

Or whatever, led the lead multiple years in a row. Sure. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Homer's all you Pittsburgh fans of Antonio Brown, Right?

[Andy Holloway]

I know if we were in Green Bay, we would still be allowed to like Aaron Rodgers, right?

[Mike Wright]

That would be permissible. But so other. Other Emmanuel Sanders tier type of players that fill that third wide receiver position.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got one later. I'm not a huge fan. I know you two will go, oh, that's great. He's seventh round, but if you're looking for the weekly starter, I just. I believe something could fall off or change. But you guys like him a lot. Pierre Garcon.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, yes, I do.

[Andy Holloway]

Nailed it.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What's wrong with that?

[Unknown Speaker]

That's a Pierre Garcon.

[Mike Wright]

What a great name, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks.

[Mike Wright]

Way to bring him up.

[Unknown Speaker]

It's a great third wide.

[Mike Wright]

The more you bring Pierre Garcon up, the better.

[Andy Holloway]

And I will say this. I have seen Amari Cooper. His average draft position is like fourth round, but his variance is very wide. I've seen him drop to the fifth round where I guess that could be your.

[Unknown Speaker]

Technically your third.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Two running backs, three.

[Unknown Speaker]

Chris Hogan.

[Andy Holloway]

Very easy, Chris. Oh, Chris Hogan. I'm rising on Chris Hogan like crazy.

[Unknown Speaker]

Back of the fifth, almost six round. Chris Hogan. Sammy Watson.

[Mike Wright]

Chris Hogan.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So funny right at that turn. Listen, what do you make.

[Unknown Speaker]

He's got a lot of heroes.

[Mike Wright]

What do you make of the reality. That was a bad joke.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I liked it.

[Mike Wright]

What do you make of the James Washington and two wide receiver sets? That. That is going to be a reality in Pittsburgh this year.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, because reality is.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no.

[Unknown Speaker]

There's talks of it though.

[Mike Wright]

I'm feeling pretty confident that juju's going and they'll. They'll line up three wide most often. But if James Washington is on the field with Big Ben for the majority.

[Unknown Speaker]

Of snaps being Martavis, you're saying.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I'm just. Yeah, I'm just saying he's a talented. I mean, he's the. The reigning wide receiver of the year in college football. I know you and I like him.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I liked him a lot coming in. Now he's on a team where what, he's the fourth option? I just think it's interesting. If a guy's going to get that many snaps, James Washington starts to look like a very interesting name to me and he could be the reason why juju doesn't deliver on massive expectations.

[Unknown Speaker]

It's very possible that's those concerns as well as Some others. That's why juju is such a a scary proposition for me. At his current adp, I know Jason talked about being ashamed and not necessarily that he's a bad player, but that's.

[Mike Wright]

I sometimes cloud comes in front of the star.

[Unknown Speaker]

Jason, just how risk averse you play those early rounds. Your favor of juju is shocking to me.

[Mike Wright]

No, he was ashamed.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why I was ashamed because it goes against how I normally draft. I did however just write down a great new segment idea from this conversation. Did you know or maybe a quick question. Okay, but it's hard headed like which players are we just hard harded? I don't know but like all I hear's where it comes from. James Washington. I know I am in the vast minority. I mean I am sitting by myself on the playground watching all the other kids play where they all love James Washington and his college film. I couldn't stand it.

[Unknown Speaker]

The Steelers loved it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. I just thought, you know, he's a one trick pony that's too short to actually succeed at that trick in the NFL. Not fast enough. So there was to me I thought he was going to fail. I don't like him. I don't want to like him because I love juju. So many reasons. But I do recognize like you could not have gone to a better situation for his one trick skill set than to go into the Martavis Bryant role. So I'm kind of hard headed. I don't want to like him, I refuse to like him. But there are things that say.

[Unknown Speaker]

You just ran the segment. All right, Congratulations.

[Mike Wright]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Comes in from Facebook from Jordan L. He says our commissioner just switched our standard league to a fab waiver system. Fabulous for tiebreakers. Do you prefer continually rolling list, reverse order, or weekly rolling list? And my answer is reverse order. I believe if it's a tie, it should go to the team with the worst record.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree completely. Reverse order of standings is one of the reasons people say, how can I convince my league to change? And one of the big hurdles is that people believe that reverse order of standings is actually the far more fair, more balanced, it's going to help the bad teams. The issue that I always bring up is the week that it matters the Most is week one, right? And all these 01 teams get higher priority when they're not necessarily bad. They just lost their first week. And I've been in leagues where people try to tank week one just so that they can have the better priority on your waivers. That's silly.

[Mike Wright]

But if I ever lose week one, I want you to know it's because I tanked it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. On purpose. Yeah. But the reality is, as a tiebreaker for fabric to still have reverse order of standings, it does help balance. That's my preferred method as well.

[Unknown Speaker]

I like reverse order. And honestly, I think it's happened in our league maybe a handful, really of times. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Tied. Fab.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's happened.

[Andy Holloway]

It happened.

[Mike Wright]

Definitely happened quite a bit.

[Andy Holloway]

But the thing is, I disagree.

[Mike Wright]

It happens with like a one or two dollar bids all the time.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. With cheap bids.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Late in the season, all the $0 bidding, that's where it's like. Yeah, okay.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's for. I'm thinking of those like the actual players that people are focusing on.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to get the guy who's, you know, just come into the best position and. Yeah. That. Those are rarely ties. Someone spends $30 more than second place.

[Mike Wright]

Guess what, guys, Andrew from Twitter has a question.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, Andrew.

[Andy Holloway]

I love Michael Keaton.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. Well done. I'm the commissioner, he says, of a 10 man dynasty league with 30 player rosters. We're looking at adding two expansion teams. How do I add two teams to the league without forcing pre existing managers to give up too much of their talent? That is a tough situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean that's a lot of players. That's 300 players distributed. Obviously some of those players need to be exposed for an expansion draft. And it would be as simple as what, forcing each owner to have three players available to expansion draft or something to that extent.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think the problem is what you would need.

[Mike Wright]

How do you tier them?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean you'd have to have some situation similar to the NFL where there's a number of guys you can protect on your team. So you could say, okay, whatever that is, whether that's five guys or 15 guys. You look at your league and your owners and come up with the number that says you protected this many guys. And then those two expansion teams come in and they draft from the pool of everyone that is left. And then you put a cap on a certain team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was gonna say you don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Let your team can't lose more than whatever. Whatever number makes mathematical sense.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And you could, you could force the expansion teams to work their way up. You could force them to have, you know, 10 of their 30 players could come off of the existing waiver wire. You could force that too, and then let them do an expansion draft to not affect the other teams as much. All right, Twitter question from Brock. Do you guys think that the new helmet rule is going to take away even more value from the running back position for those who are not pass catchers? And how does the new helmet rule affect your draft strategy?

[Unknown Speaker]

In fantasy, I'm not letting it change anything for me. The new helmet rule, it's a safety rule. It's. They pretty much.

[Andy Holloway]

It's so overblown.

[Unknown Speaker]

It could be they already kind of had something like this. Whereas the running back, once they're in space, cannot lower the head. I don't remember.

[Mike Wright]

It wasn't called very often.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right. And so now they're trying to protect that, even protect the players even more, which in my opinion, good. We need to protect the NFL and keep everything, keep these players healthy. They're going to figure out a way to play without going head first. They're going to go shoulder first. I'm just, it's, it's not going to change how I look at Thumpers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I will be, I will be blown away, shocked if come week four, week five of the season, we're going, man, I can't believe what a difference this rule made. We're not going to even know.

[Mike Wright]

There have been some high profile articles that have come out and if I'm wrong on the source, I'm sorry, but I think Bleacher Report had a pretty big article that came out about the gray area of this rule and the way it's written into the NFL rule book and the fact that because of that it could massively change based on enforcement, like the way that the NFL is played. Because it's completely subjective. Right. Like you go back and you look at all the plays from last year and you could have called this rule on a large majority of them.

[Andy Holloway]

That's exactly why I don't think it's gonna be called very often.

[Mike Wright]

Well, and I hope you're right. I hope you're right to the degree that, look, we're not changing the game so much that it's not recognizable. That's what the article was trying to, to make the point of. Let's go to Instagram here. This question comes in from Aaron Matthewman. One.

[Unknown Speaker]

Wait, Aaron Matthewman?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Aaron Matthewman.

[Unknown Speaker]

Aaron Matthewman.

[Mike Wright]

Number one. Of course, he says, bonjour, Aaron from the uk.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, bonjour.

[Mike Wright]

We've heard you all talk about your preferred place to draft in the top 12, but where's your least favorite place to draft?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, I'll Be honest, my least favorite place to draft is the 12. I don't like being on the turn in general.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And you're going to get the worst player in the first round, so I hate it.

[Mike Wright]

I actually would. I would rather be on the turn than at 10.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh. See, I like when there's that gap of only one or two teams between me and the turn, because that allows me to kind of play that Strat when I'm coming up on my short turn.

[Unknown Speaker]

But.

[Mike Wright]

But there's no Strat to play when you're back to back. You get to just pick the next guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but you've got to reach. I mean, that's one of the things I've learned over the years. On the turn, don't throw ADP out the window. ADP is irrelevant if you're on the turn. When you're on the clock, if there's a guy you want, don't try to get cute and think he's going to come back to you. Because it's 24 picks.

[Unknown Speaker]

You're waiting two rounds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Not one. Just.

[Mike Wright]

That's true. That's not fun. Martin in Nebraska, which teammates score more combined PPR points this year? You ready?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

Alvin Camara and Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas or Odell Beckham Jr. And Saquon Barkley? Oh, I will say the former. I believe that Camara and Thomas.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, give me the Saints. I love Michael Thomas so much this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think I would have to go Saints, too. Which is interesting if you compare adp. Right. Because Alvin Camara, you know, and Saquon are going back to back and in any order, but Michael Thomas is always going behind Odell Beckham, so.

[Unknown Speaker]

As he should.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, as he should. But it's just interesting where you say, okay, we all three expect that the Saints duo will score more fantasy points, but the average, the draft capital, acquire those guys.

[Unknown Speaker]

And honest, I'm going to stick with the Saints. But just thinking through it some more, will it shock any of us if Saquon Barkley outscores Alvin Camara? No, it would not shock me at all. It would surprise me a little bit if Michael Thomas outscored Odo Beckham would. So maybe it should be the Giants.

[Mike Wright]

But one team is much better than the other.

[Unknown Speaker]

But that's where I'm gonna go.

[Mike Wright]

Odds are there.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm gonna take the offense.

[Mike Wright]

Here's an important one. Mike from Jobu's Ghost on Twitter. Specifically for you, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

If you could only choose between the beard or your tattoos, which would you Choose.

[Unknown Speaker]

Okay, so as in, I either have to shave my beard or my tattoos vanish.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'll keep my tattoos then, because I can do cool things with my hair. I've been blessed with a rock star's head of hair.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Jesse.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, yeah. Me and Uncle Man. So if you haven't seen this photo, Jason's wife nailed the archetype of our personalities and our show.

[Andy Holloway]

She came running into the room, and our upstairs master, I like to imagine.

[Unknown Speaker]

She just in the middle of the night did the full sit up.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's basically like, imagine I'm sitting there, you know, in there, and she just kicks down the door. Just, boom, I did it. I did it.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

I did it. She goes, I finally figured out who you guys are. And I was like, what are you talking about, crazy lady?

[Unknown Speaker]

I know who. We were trying to figure that out.

[Andy Holloway]

And she just. She says two people before she says a third. My jaw drops. She goes. She goes, uncle Danny, Uncle Jesse. And I'm like, oh, my God. And Uncle Joey from the Full House. If you watch Full House and you listen to the show, you don't even have to know who's who. You don't have to guess.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

We are perfectly.

[Mike Wright]

There's one musician, one dad, and one comedian.

[Unknown Speaker]

But we put the post up, comparing our pictures, and I've never experienced. You've gotten this level of Twitter grief of. Apparently the public perception of John Stamos is still at a peak level because people were destroying me, saying, oh, Mike wishes he could be Uncle Jesse.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm really. I was surprised.

[Mike Wright]

Who is, in fact, a musician on the show, which you are as well.

[Unknown Speaker]

Look, Musician Mike wishes is the first reply. Cool. Devastatingly handsome. I mean, like, did I describe myself or Uncle Jesse?

[Andy Holloway]

I.

[Unknown Speaker]

Who's. Who's to say.

[Mike Wright]

Have mercy.

[Andy Holloway]

Cut it out.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, goodness gracious. I'll bring you your very kind moment at the end of the show with the soft music. Oh, guys, let's talk some best Ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Best Ball Bonanza brought to you by draft. Yee haw.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yee haw.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, give it. I got to get there.

[Unknown Speaker]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

That's. That's Best ball. It's the Wild West. You can grab Des Bryant, Antonio Gates late in your draft.

[Unknown Speaker]

So, like I hinted at the beginning of the show, entered the the Best ball championship on draft, which I highly recommend you get in on, because this. There's a lot at stake, a lot of money, and they're giving away a.

[Mike Wright]

Million dollars in prices.

[Andy Holloway]

One might say a million Dollars?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, well, you can't win a million dollars, but that's the total prize pool. But so I went with a, a different strategy, a different approach. So I want to read through this roster, then we'll, we'll talk through how we think it went for me as I went to quarterback to tight end.

[Mike Wright]

So that's it, real thin. No, no matching bye weeks.

[Unknown Speaker]

Correct. And in order to do that, I went very early on both of those positions. And roster construction is such a huge part of best ball. People always ask you what's the best way to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

We're going to discuss that next week.

[Unknown Speaker]

Sure. But reminders for this, I only have two of each. Two of the onesies.

[Mike Wright]

So who do you got?

[Unknown Speaker]

So at the quarterback position I have Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston. And I know Winston is suspended, but I felt like I can get if I'm spending a six round pick on Russell Wilson, he's my guy. My other quarterback better not be outscoring him or that's just a complete waste of a pick at running back. Melvin Gordon. Darius Geiss. So those are my two locked in what I perceive as my weekly starters.

[Mike Wright]

And because I want to know your other two position first, your other two tight ends. Because you said you went two tight ends at quarterback. So I just want to know your limited position.

[Unknown Speaker]

Rob Gronkowski.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I've heard of him.

[Unknown Speaker]

And Luke Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

That's concerning.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh yeah, but Gronk is.

[Mike Wright]

Let's say Gronk goes down like every career, every year of his career.

[Unknown Speaker]

If that happens, then my team is post anyway.

[Mike Wright]

So basically you're banking your entire basketball season on Gronk's health.

[Andy Holloway]

That is correct.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

But that's what you got to swing for the fences and the million dollar reps. Sure, sure.

[Unknown Speaker]

And so that's exactly what I did. So those are my onesies.

[Mike Wright]

Gordon Geiss.

[Unknown Speaker]

Those are my two locked in studs. And here's all my lotto tickets. At the running back position, Ty Montgomery. Latavius Murray. Kenneth Dixon. Kalen Balage. And then I felt like, man, I've got a lot of just pure lotto upside guys there. I need someone who I think can give me at least some steady points.

[Mike Wright]

You need one of those guys to take over a job? Yes, at least.

[Unknown Speaker]

And so I really only had two locked in starters and there's Darren Sprols at the end. Now he's not going to be best.

[Mike Wright]

Ball, whatever, that's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker]

But Darren Sprouls is good for at least a few points a Week. Then at wide receiver I got Larry Fitzgerald, Marvin Jones, Cooper Cup. That's my trifecta of weekly starters, perceived starters and then my upside guys, Randall Cobb, DEZ Bryant, who I talked about, I grabbed him in the ninth round of, of this tournament. Tyrell Williams, Quincy Anunwa. So my depth because of going with Russell Wilson and Gronk is definitely questionable.

[Mike Wright]

Like I said, it feels so different.

[Unknown Speaker]

I feel like I have two starting running backs and then really hoping that one of those guys takes over the starting job. Which between the. With those four guys, I think there is a decent shot that one of those guys can emerge to be a fantasy asset.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask you this, what round did you take Russell Wilson?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I want to know. The same six rounds and where did you take Winston?

[Unknown Speaker]

Very late.

[Mike Wright]

Because I feel like Winston and Wilson could have been anybody for your decision making. Like you basically went Wilson and Gronk.

[Unknown Speaker]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

And then you need a bi week fill in otherwise you're not going to win this thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker]

And it was when I took made the decision to take Russell Wilson. It was. This is not how I advocate playing fantasy football. This is not what I tell people to do on the podcast. This is not how I actually play.

[Mike Wright]

But you're going for.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm going to take a shot at this for, for one of these lineups.

[Andy Holloway]

And see how it, see how it turns out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

And then see my end results. So it.

[Mike Wright]

Well, finishing middle of the pack in that is not the goal.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

You needed to go right first, you last. And Russell Wilson and Gronk could both be number one at their positions. And yeah, your running backs are concerning certainly. But interesting. Very interesting. I had a lot of success in best ball last year with what I called the pile of rookies. Yeah, I went, I mean it looked like foolishness to start the year, but I remember I had a best ball league against you guys.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Where I went four straight rounds. It was like Camara and Hunt and I don't even remember all of them, but I went like four consecutive rookie running backs. I mean you obviously have Balaj in this mix here. A player that on Twitter, Matthew Berry and myself were facing off against what Mike Clay and myself.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Yeah, we need to get that to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not a big Balaj fan, however, in best ball, I do think if Balaj has, you know, three or four just breakaway, straight line, can't catch, stop touching straight line.

[Mike Wright]

Every time you use his name.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know how to not. It's.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's a Fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So but if he has, you know one of those track meet straight line runs a few times, I'm thankful that.

[Mike Wright]

The NFL fields are straight. They're not curved at all.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's not cross country that's good but you know you get those scores if he has the 40 yard touchdown breakaway. So I do like him better as a late round, you know guy. The one thing I'll point out if you are going to play the million dollar tournament is that it's different than all the other best balls by the fact that come week 12 towards the end of the season they kind of eliminate. You've got to be in that top and then you basically go tournament mode for those last playoff basically like fantasy playoffs.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So you actually have to. This is the only time, the only situation where I would ever look at playoff strength of schedule because you're probably, probably going to be wrong on a lot of the strength of schedule numbers by the end of the year. There's a lot of change over there but I will look at least right now. And so just to give you an idea of some of the teams that have really good schedules during the playoff weeks. You've got Denver. So if you want a late round quarterback, you know Case Keenum is cost you nothing on that and he might have a great playoff run. Indianapolis, you know, if you're going to take that swing for the fences, Andrew Luck pick, he does have a great schedule. Carolina with Cam Newton. So you know that that's the passing games and then if you're looking at running back you've got New England up top. If you want to go rookie Sony Michelle as Andy loves to do Chicago New York jets so you can get some cheaper running back options there that might be able to pop in the playoffs.

[Unknown Speaker]

And I will say during the draft, I mean so Gronk was second round. Russell Wilson was sixth round. So just watching Trey Burton go in the eighth and then Andrew Luck went right around there too was. It was a, it was a punch in the nethers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean I don't like.

[Unknown Speaker]

It was like I don't like this strategy. I was one of the. It was late at night and I'm like I'm going whatever. Yeah, I'm going for it. And then just by.

[Mike Wright]

That's the fun thing about mistakes were made. Yeah, that's the fun thing about it is you do get to take, you get to roll out different rosters, you get to take different shots. If you've got a feeling on a couple players that you think can win you a league? Take that shot. Take that opportunity. You got something on your notes there, Jason. You doing all right?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I was just looking at his team again. I don't love it, but I understand the idea, the genesis, the swing for the fences. And it's always good to try those things out. And if it proves out to be a good team, then you win a lot of money.

[Mike Wright]

We'll see. You're sharing, though, right?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

You're sharing that money. The winnings.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Not your test, the actual winnings.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, sure. It's in the mail, fellas.

[Mike Wright]

You guys got any other closing thoughts? Draft.com Ballers, by the way, to participate in basketball. All right, thanks for tuning in. Don't forget ballerslive.com if you want to come see us in Philly and New York in the next couple weeks. What you do, and we'll catch you soon. Have a good weekend. Bye.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.