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MEGALODON Episode - Week 13 Matchups, Turkey Day Awards & More - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/26
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Fantasy Football show for Nov 26, 2025. The MEGALODON is here! It’s a fantasy football Thanksgiving feast! Starts of the Week, Backup Options, and more. Plus, Turkey Day Awards and a preview of every Week 13 matchup with start/sit advice! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.
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Don't miss the movie event of a lifetime. On December 19, visionary director James Cameron presents the greatest chapter of the biggest saga of all time. Fire and Ash. A new threat will rise in the character of Varong, who leads the ruthless Ash people. And a stunning new discovery will threaten to change the world of Avatar forever. Fire and Ash in theaters, iMacs and 3D screens everywhere. December 19th. Get tickets now, guys. It's fantasy football season, which means you might have crazy dreams where you're trying to pick up a new wide receiver, but the only options are your childhood dog or your first grade teacher, who have shockingly impressive yards after the catch. If this describes you, that means you're sleeping well enough to dream. But if you have sleep apnea, you might not be. That's where Inspire therapy comes in. It's an implant that's proven to treat sleep apnea without a mask or hose and gets you sleeping well enough to dream. View safety info@ inspiresleep.com. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
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Welcome in. Is that Richard Nixon?
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I'm not a shark.
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It's one way to start it off. Welcome in Wednesday, November 26th. The Megalodon episode is back.
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Jason, have you had your caffeine this morning?
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Always. I'm ready to rumble.
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There is two caffeine sources on this table.
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Oh, Jason has two.
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No, Jason, I have my coffee.
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Oh, you got to be. I mean, this is going to be hours. Yeah, boys. I mean, we've got three days worth of content to jam into one show. I mean, we will be. Let me. Let me set the stage here. By the way, I only introduced Jason, but Mike Wright is here. I'm Andy Holloway. Great show today. It would take so long to just go through all the things we're going to talk about, but it'll be, you know, we're going to get you ready for week 13. We got fantasy playoffs on the horizon. But, you know, the point is, is it's going to be a very long show and we've got a long. You know, we're just going to be.
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Here a while by the end of this show. Like, I feel so good right now. I feel great.
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Yeah.
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By the end, I hope I'm just a sweaty mess.
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Yeah. Just a puddle.
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Just a puddle. Just like I've given it all I have.
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Right. No, we will have. I don't hope that at some point during the show we will have a special hashtag that we'll share. And if you go to twitter @ the ff ballers. You tag us and you let us know the hashtag. You'll be entered to win a Jamar Chase signed jersey, a Josh Jacobs signed jersey, and a Colston Loveland signed mini helmet.
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Mr. Loveland.
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Mr. Loveland, I do declare.
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So just stay tuned. We don't know what this hashtag is.
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No, we never know. It'll come from the depths of our souls.
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So we got a lot today. Now, last week, Mike wasn't here.
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Correct.
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And just to kind of set up this day, Mike wasn't here. And we did our prize picks Fantasy Face off, which we'll do again today because it's part of the Friday show and everything's in today's show.
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Turkey dude special.
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Turkey Day special. I mean, we got. Thank you. And the Doosers got voluntold.
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They got.
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They got voluntold.
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They got the opportunity.
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They got the chance to come and.
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Shame show what they got.
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They could have shamed you.
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They could have shamed you.
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Yeah, but they shamed themselves. And I felt like on a mega show, maybe mega shame would be appropriate.
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Yeah. No waiting. No waiting.
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We didn't want to wait till the end of this show because who knows if they're even employed at that point, Right? And they are right now. So we said, hey, we'll go ahead and spin that wheel a little bit beforehand. So let me go to Deucer's Alley over here.
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Oh, look at how beautiful.
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We've got turkey one, turkey two, turkey three.
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Oh, you losers.
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Josh is thrilled.
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Josh is just.
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They. When I was saying I hope I'm a sweaty mess, what I really meant is, I can't wait to see what a sweat. You know, how hot are you three gentlemen in those turkey outfits?
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It's very warm now.
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They're very snuggle. Oh, no.
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I mean, yeah. And you do have to produce the megalodon.
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We realize your snood is looking great.
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Yeah, nice snood, bro. Also, the. The. Because we gave these guys their costumes this morning, and you look amazing. It did say one size fits most. Are you all in. Are you all in the most category today?
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I think looking at it, only Matt the falcon fits his costume. The other two guys, I'm just outside of most. Yeah.
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So the shame today is to do a. Do an entire show dressed up as three incredible turkeys. We'll. We'll pan the camera back at random times today, but very excited. We better get this thing going. First thing we'll do, shout out our Megalobol leader, M. Taylor, 97 in the lead right now going into week 13. Out of 20,000 plus entries into the.
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Megalobol, two weeks left, be in the top six in your league. I'm in second place right now. So I will be in the playoffs and everybody in the playoffs.
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Yeah, that'll be fun. And then each week of the playoffs, the top half will move on. And our final week, the number one scorer of the week will be your Megalo bowl champion and be in the listener league for 2026.
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Yes, I will.
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Yes, you will. You can go ahead and follow us on X at the FF Ballers. Jason's at Jason Moore. Mike at FF Hitman. I'm at Andy Holloway, soon to be at Mike. Oh, you're still.
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I'm working.
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You're still trying to get that Mike?
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Yeah, I'm working on it.
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Oh, now you want to get it out there. Get it out there.
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Let people at Mike. I'll be so jealous. I mean I was so happy I was able to change to Jason Moore.
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That's your name.
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Yeah, that's, that's great. And then you tried to do at Mike, right? Didn't work. They're like, nah, that's like this guy's.
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Got an account, he doesn't use it.
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But we can't take it. But then they're like, but wait a.
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Minute, maybe what about App Mike?
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Mike? That would be so awesome.
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That'd be pretty great. That would be a real hearkening back to your non verified days. If you remember to go from that to At Mike, that'd be legendary. You can go ahead and follow us on Instagram. Instagram.com fantasy footballers as well. And if you want to see three turkeys producing a show and you do, you can go to YouTube.com/the fantasy footballers. Make sure you subscribe. Click the bell. Mike will be live with you on Sunday for week 13, answering your last minute questions or freaking out about the injury reports or both. So let's get our first segment started.
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Backup options presented by Progressive Insurance.
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Well, your waivers went through and we're looking at the most dropped players on sleeper over the last 24 hours. Joe Flacco leading the way at the quarterback position. Well, that makes sense. We know Joe Burrow is going to start on Thursday. People letting go of Sean Tucker baseball. Tudin, I'm not sure when Bucky Irving will be back, but your window, I.
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Think it might be, it might be happening.
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You know what's, what's crazy is in part of the news today, Omarion Hampton also coming back to practice. They might both be back at the same time.
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Right.
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But we don't know. Jakori, Krasky, Merritt, people letting go of him on the wide receiver front. Pierce, all one of the most dropped. Keon Coleman, Darius Slayton. The Slayton thing hasn't happened for, you know, there have been opportunities.
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It's just injury.
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It just hasn't worked out. Yeah. And that's happened to him before when he's had opportunities, been a little banged up, but let's get into some backup options. You didn't get the player you wanted on the waiver wire.
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So I'm going to. I'll jump in here first because for some reason this player is on the most dropped list. I think we talked him on our waiver show and it's Yoshivas.
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I totally understand why I made the mistake. When I was looking at waivers originally, it was like, oh, Chase is back and you forget about T. Higgins. Like, this is a great pick, Mike.
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So look, is it Yoshivas or Yosivas?
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Yoshi. It's Yoshi.
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Yoshi Voss. Because do you remember?
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Yeah, I always call him Yoshi. No, I remember.
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I remember.
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Yes, I remember calling him Yoshi. But just saying there's no.
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I'm not sure which one is correct, but I know which one is right. Yoshi. Yoshi.
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All right, so Yoshi apparently is being dropped out there and he is a. To me, you could pick him up and you could play him the tomorrow like he's got the Thanksgiving game. We're actually going to be talking about him again later on this show because Chase was out. He saw 83% of the snaps, seven targets, four for 61. And the big one is T. Higgins is out. He's already been ruled out as of yesterday with the concussion. And with Joe Burrow back, there will be plenty to go around, plenty of opportunities at least. And while the Ravens the defense has gotten better as of late, it's. I'm still like with Joe Burrow at the helm, I'm not scared to put him out there as a replacement type of a player that is available because we all run into situations where we need someone right off the waivers, right into the lineup. And I think Yoshi fits that bill.
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Well, my backup option, I'm going to keep throwing his name out there. You need to pay attention to it. Especially with Cam Ward playing a lot better right now. It's Jim Ray dk, the wide receiver for the Tennessee Titans. This is kind of wild since week seven. So the firing of their head coach. He leads The Titans in receptions, receiving yards, first downs. And only Tetaro McMillan and A. Mecca Abuka are the. Those are the only two rookie wide receivers with more receiving yards since week seven than Chimray dk. He is a super explosive player. Like you have potential for a score in the, in the return game from him, but also if you get him the ball in the screen game and he can break something loose, I mean he is entering the flexible territory but you kind of run away from the Titans. So I just want him.
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I love, you know, he's a rookie. I love this call because Chimray DK has. He got off to a slow start. The Titans did, Cam Ward did. And so you just, sometimes we just discount and we just go, well I'm, I'm out, out on that whole situation. Jim Ray dk, you mentioned it yesterday, Andy, but he's on pace right now to break the all time all purpose yards. Like he is that good of a punt returner. And you're not just that good of a punt returner because like man, the blocking scheme is excellent. I mean they're doing good work, but it's because he's a really good athlete in the open field. So I love paying attention to a rookie in that situation.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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All right, I'm going to name more.
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Yours is insane and yet it's not at all.
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It is not.
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That is, it's not insane.
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It's not insane at all.
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But when you hear it, you're going to be like, I'm not doing that.
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What a terrible podcast.
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Just the pick, I mean, it doesn't ruin the whole podcast. The New Orleans Saints defense, I'm telling you, you should pick them up. Yeah, you look at the New Orleans Saints, one of the worst teams in the league, one of the worst records, you think, okay, you don't want to touch that with a, with a 10 foot pole right now. And I know every, every league is so wildly different with defensive scoring. I'm going off our league of record, which is, you know, standard enough. We kind of nerf it a BIT. They're the 16th points scored at the position. So they're not like, they're not 25th, 28th, they're not like one of the bottom dwelling defenses. They've put up points and when you look at their actual game log of who they've played, like they played the Rams good offense, the Bucks good offense, Chicago good offense, the Patriots good offense and they didn't put up any points there. But then they played last week, Atlanta bad offense, 12 fantasy points. Carolina, bad offense, 11 fantasy points. The Giants, bad offense, 19 fantasy points. Like when they've had a good matchup, they've shown out.
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Oh, they can't possibly have like a run of the three best matchups in football.
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Well, let's take a look at their playoff schedule. Their playoff schedule is Carolina again, who they put up double digit fantasy points against the New York jets, who are way worse than Carolina, and then the Tennessee Titans. Two of those. The first two are at home. I mean, it's a perfect schedule for a defense that I think is definitely good enough to put up points against bad matchups.
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It's also one that your league mates will dismiss immediately and is sitting out on waivers and no one will pay attention to. And that's how you win championships.
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Assuming that my saying this on this show right this second doesn't sway you guys. You jerks. I have a $0 bid in $0 on the Saints right now because who's putting a bid on the Saints?
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He's got a five dollar bid. Mike. He's got a $5 bid.
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I'm just. That was a setup. I am being honest.
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Yes, he's being so honest.
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Because there's no way that anyone out here put a bid on the Saints prior to this.
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No, no, you got it. I mean it's, it's, it shocked me. And then you see the schedule and you see the evidence and it makes sense. So that was backup options sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today@progressive.com let's talk news.
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News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.
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I am oh so happy for, oh, Marion Hampton. The 21 day practice window has been officially opened. The celebrations in the streets. Omarion Hampton, Buck Irving. Are they here to save your fantasy season?
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Maybe they're not here to save your fantasy season, but they're here to bring you a championship if you've had a good season with them.
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You know what I mean?
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Like if you're going to the playoffs, I think that their playoff run will be special and worthy of a championship run. It was funny yesterday on the foot cast, I was talking to Mike, I was like, I've been scouring for any Omarion Hampton news and there was none. And then mid shows like, oh, his windows opened up.
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Yeah, it's. I'm watching video of him at practice.
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Oh, what's he doing?
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Everything. Oh, well actually I'm just watching him run through some of those little like the things.
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Jason, the drill.
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But he looks, he looks healthy.
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So we'll See, from what I've heard, it's tough running through those things.
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Yeah. They fight back.
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Yeah. What is this Quote Greg Roman on Hampton's ankle injury back on October 9th. The injury is easily corrected, easily fixed. It's not a complicated type of things. That was back in October. It was more complicated than Mr. Roman anticipated.
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Things can be easy and still take a long time.
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Yeah. We did have a comment from Jim Harbaugh on the carry split between Vidal and Amarian Hampton after his return. He said, quote, we'll see how this week goes or the week goes, but we'll see. Hampton's on his way back. Brandon Cooks has been.
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I'll just throw it out real quick. Like, I thought about saying, Vidal should be the backup option because we don't know 100% that Hampton is going to play this week.
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Oh, for sure. So I would say that I'm still very.
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Just keep it in. Keep it in the back of your mind that Kamani Vidal is one of the most dropped players in the last 24 hours. And it's not a guarantee that Hampton plays.
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It's a great point. And they're heavy favorites. I think they're seven and a half point favorites this week.
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Nine and a half.
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Oh, nine and a half.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I feel like that line. Yeah, I think that went up. Yeah.
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Maybe because of Hampton. So if. If Hampton plays, what's the matchup? Miami or. I'm sorry, Las Vegas. Totally different city, right?
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No, they're right next to each other.
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No, I mean, pretty close, but, like, they get confused for each other a lot.
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If. And. And it's. It's not in Las Vegas.
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Vegas. The Miami of.
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In Los Angeles against Las Vegas. But if Hampton is active this week. Are you plugging him?
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Oh, yeah, immediately.
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I know you. Okay. Mike, would you. Your roster is desperate for him to play.
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Roster has Chris Rodriguez in it right now.
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More than likely.
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We had.
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We fielded a question on the Footcast yesterday. It was like, is Hampton gonna, you know, just. Is he going to be back? But because they were talking about guys like Alec Pierce at the Flex, too. And so, yes, I would put Hampton right back in.
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All right. I've got two names I'm curious about.
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Okay.
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He's not even looking at me anymore.
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Okay. Rico Dowdle, who didn't get a lot of work, now plays the Rams this week. One of the toughest matchups, but he's been great. Hampton, first game back, which way you go there.
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I'm now happy he's not looking at me.
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Wow. I've got another hard name after that.
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I would honestly would need more news, but I would probably just play Rico as of now.
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And then Kareem Hunt, Pacheco.
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I play Hampton.
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Okay. All right. Squeeze them in between them.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yep, that's the.
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The Hampton Hampton sandwich.
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Okay. Hey, guess what? J.J. mcCarthy not expected to play this week due to the concussion or ever again.
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Oh, man.
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There was. There were.
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We got the off season for J.J. mcCarthy. I know we got to get out of this, man. It's not good.
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I think he's got one of those paper chains. It's like every day taking one off.
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Yeah. But I think the off season ends his career, so I think we actually need to play now because I don't think he. Because they don't go into the off season without a fix or a potential fix.
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No, they were already get a fix. There were already ridiculous rumors that they were going to go after Daniel Jones, which they're not going to be able to. It seems impossible, but yeah, they're. They're going to. Look, they're not just saying, well, we drafted him and he's our guy forever. Seattle, Washington, the next two weeks. If maybe he misses a couple.
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Seattle in Washington. Seattle and Washington. Yes.
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The two next matchups are Seattle, this, the city and the franchise against. And then Washington, the commanders after that, Dallas and the Giants. Maybe that's a good time to bring him back, give him a chance.
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Yeah, you've got to show them something before this season ends or they will show you the door or you're going to be a backup for sure. And that could be. I mean, that's just like. I see that as the most likely outcome. The most likely outcome is JJ McCarthy's the backup next year for the Vikings. And that is just what a complete change in every dynasty.
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Yeah, I'm not ready yet to make that declaration. I still think that there is a large percentage that can get it fixed. I don't want to be too recency biased because recent I test, I mean.
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That'S all you have. It's also his entire career.
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Fair.
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Unfortunately, it's just a short period of time. I just don't understand what you can even do from this point out. You don't play this week. So you got weeks 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. You got five weeks better show something right then and you better do it like multiple games for them to have a chance of making you the starter. They have too many good players. You think Justin Jefferson and Addison are going to stand idly by and you say, yeah, next year we're going to go with the same dude. It's more of a Rosen situation is what it is.
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I wonder if they should go after Josh Rosen.
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Yeah, you know what I mean. Kevin was going to make a comment. No, Rosen season was way better.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. It's not a pile on thing. It's just realistic teams don't have time and when you have hall of Fame wide receivers and you got a defense like that and you got. Yeah, it's just, it's rough. Bucky Irving, he's going to practice all week. Who will be cleared to suit up on Sunday versus the Cardinals if he avoid setbacks. That is reporting out of the Buccaneers official site. Scott Smith and Todd Bowles comments on Monday. So Bucky Irving, welcome to the party, pal.
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A
Last week when they sat him down, they basically said they expect him to play this week.
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And then Jeremy Fowler says there's a realistic possibility, realistic possibility that Jaden Daniels returns to play in week 14.
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Commanders have lost six in a row.
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I get the verbiage when you're talking about what we saw happen to Jaden Daniel's arm and to think that he's going to play football again this year. You have to say it's a realistic possibility.
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I know it's his non throwing arm but don't, don't RJ3 this thing like let RG3 or.
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Yeah, you said J but.
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Oh, did I.
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It's not a big deal.
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Robert Griffin, Robert Driffin. I just don't want, you know, don't rush him back. This team isn't making the playoffs.
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See that, that, that was a big comment about the Burrow situation too. It's like, I don't know if you watched the press conference with Burrow because he talked about, he sees all these things about like, well, why are you bringing me back if I don't have a chance to make the playoffs? He's like, I'm a football player.
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Yeah.
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He's like, I get. You get hurt. It happens in football. Then you rehab and then when you're ready to play football, you come back and play football.
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Yeah.
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He's like, this is all the other stuff doesn't make any sense. This idea that I'm not going to play just because of this or that. And I, I get it. Like, I mean it's the same thing with Jaden Daniels. Like you, you're a football player.
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I agree 100% with that. Like, like you shouldn't not play just because you're out of the playoffs. Like, teams that aren't making the playoffs don't just bench all their starters. But what you shouldn't do is rush a timeline back from injury that could potentially make things worse. This if he. Both of these guys, like, let's say the timeline, you know, Burrows playing this week, that is astronomically ahead of the optimistic timeline that he was giving injury.
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B
They didn't play him on Sunday, so they didn't rush him back. Right. You could have played him Sunday. They lost the game. They probably don't lose that game with Joe Burrow. Joe Flacco made some bad mistakes in that one and it was close. So I feel like they're doing what you're saying because they could have tried.
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I mean, I hope so. I just don't want to see either of these guys get injured again.
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Yeah, that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Did I miss something? Oh, Josh.
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A
Oh, this is a big one.
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My bad. Josh Jacobs expected to play on Thanksgiving.
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A
Yeah.
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Gobble. So. Yeah. And then Jaden Reed, basically a game time decision. Head coach said, you'll find out on Thursday.
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I mean, what if he didn't have sunglasses on and like lower them down? Like you'll find out Thursday.
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Yeah.
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Then he did it wrong.
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He's a spicy individual. Mr. LaFleur, that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. Let's take a break and then we're going to get into the Turkey Day Awards, a tradition unlike any other.
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Oh, yeah.
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Awards.
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C
Yeah.
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B
And you'll kind of. You'll understand that when you hear the intro to the segment. A tradition unlike any other. Well, we're back. We. We do this everywhere every single year.
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C
Just so people are clear, that is. That is Jason doing the voiceover of the turkey.
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Yeah. Yeah. Amazing impressions that this guy could do of farm animals. See, what did I do? Is there a cow in this room?
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C
Holy crap.
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It was incredible.
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A
Yeah. There's more to come.
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Yeah. Oh, frightening. All right. Every. Every year, we do some Turkey day awards. This is. We're playing along with you. We don't know who the. You know, who Kyle and Brooks picked for these official awards last year. Well, we'll start here. The Thanksgiving meat, right? Some. Some of you is turkey. Some it's ham. Jason. I knew you're a ham guy.
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No, Jason's a tenderloin now.
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Yes, I am.
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Are you?
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I got two ready to cook. They're brining now.
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B
Okay. Just cook them.
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Oh, I cooked the last.
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C
The problem is eating immediately after the cook.
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Well, the problem on the counter.
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I think two hours is fine.
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B
Why do any hours?
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Yeah, I mean, you're gonna. You're saying you don't go back for leftovers at Thanksgiving. You eat, and then, you know, the food's still out. It's fine at that point. Okay.
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Eight hours. Yeah. You play. You play the game and win the prize. All right. Last year's Thanksgiving meet, which we call the Showstopper. And MVP of Thanksgiving Day, last year's winner on this show, Saquon Barkley. Play along at home. We don't know who they picked, but who's the answer for you guys on the 2025? Showstopper. MVP.
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Right now, there's three guys.
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Oh, yeah, there are.
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Well, so there's Jonathan Taylor.
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There's Christian McCaffrey, and JSN JSN.
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Those are the three.
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And, like, I was Going to say.
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John making a late push towards. Towards it.
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Well, that's. I was going to say it's. It was Johnny Taylor, but I'm wondering if this particular week I know, was like, was that enough to sway the.
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Jury of the turkey for the JSN side? I don't think. I don't think it's going to be cmc. I think it's going to be Taylor jsn.
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So I'm, I'm going to stick with. Because.
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Stick with Taylor.
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I'm going to go Jason, because this is the meat. I think you're forgetting about them mashed potatoes, but we'll get there. I'm going to go with the meat being jsn. He's a big, honking, meaty man.
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What?
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A
Jonathan Taylor.
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B
Okay. That's a different name.
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Yeah, Jonathan Taylor. Andy and I are in lockstep. You're going jsn.
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Let's hold on. What are the mashed potatoes?
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The.
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The mashed potatoes.
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Is the next one dependable. They could all be.
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No, just make the pick.
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I'm going Jason.
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All right, the pick. The winner is. Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor.
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You know who's loser? Last week's Jonathan Taylor. Jason. How was that?
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I got a big L last week.
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All right, the mashed potatoes. A rich, buttery glob of mashed potatoes. Jonathan Taylor of mashed potatoes is what everyone needs to add body to the plate. The most consistent, dependable dish for a Thanksgiving Day last year. The winner was Derek Henry.
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Has to be JSN. He's had like one game outside the top 13 at wide receiver, something I think you could.
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Okay, I want to go cmc.
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I mean, it's one of those two for sure.
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I'll go CMC.
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I'm going Christian McCaffrey.
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The winner is Jackson.
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A
Come on, man. Two for two, baby.
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C
Who made up the stupid game?
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B
Not you. The burn dinner rolls. Gosh, you put in so much time and effort. You prepared the meal, but unexpectedly, the rolls were burned. Sometimes you just have to scrape the carbon shavings off and throw it away in sadness. This is not a good award. Last year it was Travis Etienne, who was maybe the biggest bust in fantasy this year.
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I've got my name.
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I've got my name.
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I think he's burnt right now. He's literally in the garbage. I'm going Brian Thomas.
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Brian Thomas.
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It does feel like that's got to be the pick.
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C
Let's see. He was like a second rounder. Consensus.
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B
Yeah, it is Brian Thomas Jr. Which. Congrats to Jacksonville on two consecutive wins. Jacksonville doing work at the Burn dinner roll.
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They're really hoping they get to play the Cardinals again.
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We've got the Mike Wright special, which is the Jack in the box here. The random dish somebody brought because, well, they're convinced Thanksgiving food is trash and outdated. Time to stop with the old way of thinking, open your eyes, and realize this could be the best thing ever. Last year, it was Baker Mayfield. This year, it's a tie between two winners.
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A
Oh, was there, like, voting? I thought Kyle just picks all this. I have no idea who picks these.
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It's two win in the.
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I have two. That's good because I got two nominees.
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I think it's. I think Rico's one.
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Rico is one for me.
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I think Rico's one.
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A
I've got. So I've got two names. Yeah.
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And my second name I'm trying to think is Michael Pittman.
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A
Oh, I love that. I don't think that's it, but I.
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Love that Rico's more of a headline maker.
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A
I'm going Rico and I'm going Stafford.
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B
Okay.
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A
Stafford is not been a fantasy star.
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But apparently this means Brooks and Kyle couldn't agree on this one, so they.
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Both demanded that it was their guy.
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I think Stafford and Rico.
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Okay, we all agreed on Rico.
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B
Yeah.
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I'm going to stick with Pittman.
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B
Okay. The answer is Javante. Yeah, of course.
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A
Goodness, That's a good answer. Javante is a better answer than Rico and Rico.
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B
Yeah, both of those are perfect.
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A
Okay, well, one out of two and.
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B
Yeah, funny. All right, one more award. Is that right? We have the pumpkin pie guy. So delicious. You don't want too much of it.
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C
Apparently on the YouTube there was a legend.
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B
Oh, that's just a new one, Right?
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C
There was a legend made last year where someone talked about eating an entire Costco pumpkin pie and then just really, really caught on in the YouTube comments. Weird stuff happens at those YouTube comments.
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B
So what is the definition of the pumpkin pie guy, though?
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Delicious.
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It's delicious. But you don't want too much, so.
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You need it for a small amount of the season.
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I don't know.
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I don't know. Kyle, do you have a better day? Do you have a summary?
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A
Someone explain what this represents.
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If you get too much of it, you will throw up. Okay, so Kyler was the winner last year, so. Okay. Too much, you'll throw up. I have no idea.
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I. Boom.
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Bust. Is that what.
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Yeah, I mean, that's how I feel. I feel like it's James freaking Williams and Williams Is who came.
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C
He will make you throw up.
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A
He's delicious. He can have great performances.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
He's like. He's like. But he takes care of you. He's like, don't have too much.
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B
Okay. Yeah, that's my pick.
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A
I'm going to take that plate back. Yeah, I'm going to give you a plate. There's nothing on it.
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B
Right.
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I think we're going to go with jmo, but I will also throw somebody else out there. Roma Dunze.
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B
Okay. Oh, it was a tie again. Quentin Johnson and Jameson Williams.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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Huge.
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B
Boy, they are going goose for goose.
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Yeah, the goose eggs, really?
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B
Who'd you rather have rest of season between those two?
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C
I think James. James who?
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B
I think it's Jamo.
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C
I think it's Jamo because of the Laporta.
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I'm going to go huge.
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C
It's very close.
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A
Yeah.
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Okay. Well, there you go. There's your Turkey Day awards. We will jump into our starts starts.
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Of the week presented by Tostitos.
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Okay, it starts of the week time, week 13. We got games on Thursday, Friday, Sunday. I don't think we're playing in a different country this week, so there's that. But every team is playing no bi weeks. I'm going to start with my start of the week at quarterback.
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Dak.
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I'm going Dak.
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A
Oh, I need to hear this.
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Andrew against Kansas City.
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A
I know.
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C
That's why I need to hear this. You let me know I don't need.
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Underpants this week, okay? No, no, he doesn't. When you have George and you got CD catching the football, please learn to catch you. Yeah, you see his comments? He's like, no, he made some comments in the press about like, he gave all the like, political answers of like, you know, it doesn't do you any good to focus on the negative, you know, and figure out, you know, and focus on the problem. You need to move forward. And he goes, but we know what the problem is. I need to catch the blinking ball, but I'm gonna go with Dak. This is a home game for Dakota. Crucial part of the season. Highest over under of the week. I think Dak and Mahomes are going to be incredible in this game. This is Dak, you know, for all the ups and downs and all arounds, it's quarterback four and fantasy points per game on the season. He is playing great football. He has two elite pass catchers. A must win game that I think, look, Dallas, your defense is getting better. You're not stopping Patrick Mahomes in this game. I think it's going to be match or surpass that 52 and a half points and I love that. I want, I want the hot. You're into this.
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I'm just so happy to. Because I have to start him. It was. It was basically him or Purdy and Purdy's got a terrible matchup and was terrible last week. So I'm starting Dak and I'm happy.
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B
I saw Purdy hit the old waiver wire for you.
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A
All right, I'm going to go with a revenge game narrative. A well deserved start. Sam Darnold. Yeah, Sam Darnold at home against those Vikings who said we don't need you.
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We've got J.J. mcCarthy, 11 and a half point favorites.
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They are 11 and a half point home favorites. So that's one of the reasons I like this. You. You expect them to score points. He's been an efficiency monster all year with JSN number one in in yards per attempt, fifth and passer rating six and passing yards. He's completing 74% of his passes at home. And the Vikings, they are reeling. Lost five of their last six. They have no quarterback and they're going to be looking across the field longingly at Sam Darnold. They're going to be like, I remember you.
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Who would have thought?
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A
I know.
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B
If you told us in the beginning of last year while we were talking about Darnold being the starter in Minnesota that a year from now they'll desperately miss this dude.
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Wild. I'm going with Bo Nix off of the bye week.
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B
I actually put Bo Nix in first and then I scrolled down and saw you. Very nice.
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He's playing at Washington. He's coming off with a bye week. We like that. A little bit of extra time to prepare the Commander's pass defense. 27th and schedule adjusted points to the quarterback, dead last in passer rating allowed. And even though it has not been anything consistent for Bo Nix, he's still the quarterback 10 because he has spike week ability. And I think that this is one of the weeks.
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B
All right, moving on to running back. Start of the week, I'm going Woody Marks. Going Woody Marks against Indianapolis. This is a huge Mungus game. Officially it.
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C
Dude. It's crazy.
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B
It's a huge game. If Houston wins this ball game one, they'll move to what, four straight wins. You will be seven and four and then that will put Indianapolis at eight and three.
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C
So Houston would be seven and five.
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Okay, seven and five.
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C
And the Colts would be eight and Four.
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Yeah.
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If Houston wins like they'd be.
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If Indy wins the game, that puts the division. They have it.
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It's insane.
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But Indianapolis, if Houston wins. Yeah. And they could do you.
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I mean, genuinely like if you're on a four game winning streak, do you go back to Stroud in the middle?
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Yes.
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Right?
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Yes.
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I mean, I know you're going to go back Stroud. He's your future.
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I do.
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C
I do too.
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B
Yeah. Because you want to win a Super Bowl.
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Man, I want to make the playoffs.
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But Woody Marks is the pick since their week six by he's averaging six opportunities a game, 61% of the snaps. And over this win streak, he's been a key part the change at running back. The Nick. Nick Chubb has one red zone touch in three weeks. Marks has 14. I mean, Indianapolis is on a really, really bad run right now. Like you use our schedule, our schedule tool strength to schedule tool and you limit it to the last five weeks. Indianapolis is 26th in schedule adjusted fantasy points to the running back position. That has been a major trend. Is Indy not stopping the running back and Woody Marks gets all the opportunities. I want to give people confidence to play in this week.
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All right. Mine is not a confidence play. Mine is a must play. R.J. harvey at Washington.
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C
Oh, man. Yeah.
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A
Telling you you want to start him. He's coming off the buy. I expect Harvey to see the lion's share of the workload this week. He saw a season high 61% of the snaps last week. Wasn't a great fantasy output, but that was against Kansas City in their last game. The Chiefs have an awesome defense Washington right now, look. The Broncos are a touchdown road favorite. The commanders are 27th in rushing yards allowed, 24th in explosive rush rate, 27th in yards before contact. That is perfect for RJ Harvey to have his post by breakout rookie game. And I'm starting him.
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You're thinking it going to be huge Mungus too.
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I think it's going to be huge Mungus. I'm starting him over Kenneth Walker. If Bucky's back, probably Bucky Quinn. Sean Javante, It's Harvey time.
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C
Wow.
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A
He's a top 15 guy for me this week.
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C
All right, this one's. Hey, it's a little scarier.
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B
You need to put on a pair.
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C
I don't think we do.
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B
Okay.
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C
It's Kenneth Gainwell against the Buffalo Bills. Oh, hey there.
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B
Sorry.
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C
What are you looking at there, Jeremy?
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B
I want to check in here. I'm sorry. Gainwell's card ready to bring up on the screen. Oh, no, we don't have. We don't have time to do that. Just checking in though. How's the temperature checked back there in deucer's alley?
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C
How's the Kenneth Gainwell on the board?
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B
It's very hot.
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C
Okay.
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B
How's the comfort?
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The nether regions are very. Josh has been complaining about that a lot. The seam on this thing is a little toit.
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Not good.
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C
Like a tiger.
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Okay. Sorry. Kenny Gain.
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Here we go. Kenny Gainwell. And this is just trying to figure out what the Pittsburgh Steelers are doing. Like, Jalen Warren is still a good play this week, but even go back to the game that Warren got injured, Gainwell was already taking a huge amount of the work. Like this is a. This is a full timeshare situation and both players can get it done. Kenny G has been a top 12 running back back to back weeks. He has four games of six or more receptions on the season. It like I would have for sure thought that that would be Jaylen Warren's job locked up. But they have really gone to gain well in that situation. Only McCaffrey, HN and Bijan can match the four games or six or more receptions. The Bills are a run funnel. 28th and yards before contact allowed. 30th and schedule adjusted points to the running back position. I think you this is not a time to shy away from what Gainwell is putting on the field.
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I have a question for you then.
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C
Between the two of them.
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No.
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C
Okay.
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A
So I have this decision. I saw this in the DOC and I made a swap. I put Kenneth Gainwell back in the lineup, but that was over Yoshivas. So Andre Yoshivas or Kenneth Gainwell?
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C
Oh, man. I think between the two of them probably, I'll probably play game. Well, although the fun play.
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A
I'm playing game.
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C
The fun play is Yoshi on Thanksgiving for Thursday.
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B
Yeah. Wide receivers.
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C
Yep.
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B
Michael Wilson is my start of the week for sure. Tampa Bay.
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C
You mean Calvin Johnson.
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B
I do mean Jerry Rice. You're right. Yes. The Cardinals, they are cooking on offense. It's just they're so much productivity in this offense right now. Michael Wilson, you know, you might say Harrison. He's coming back. I don't care. I don't care. They're playing Tampa Bay 27th in schedule adjusted fantasy points to wide receivers over the last five weeks. You can take the targets down from 18 or 15 to 10 and you can be content there. This is something they've unlocked in the offense. The Cardinals have the second highest rate of 15 plus yard pass plays over the last month. That's where Michael Wilson's been great. He can go compete, he can go high point of ball, competitive catch guy, touchdown threat. I think you stay in the flames with Michael Wilson. Slash Jerry Rice.
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I went to put him in the dock because if, you know, assuming that Marvin Harrison is back, which I think is fair timeline, he should be back. He could miss. But I think it's important in Marv's first game back you continue starting Michael Wilson. He has been too good in sync with Brissette. My start of the week at wide receiver Christian Watts.
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B
By the way, the first thing I see on Twitter about Marvin Harrison is a letter from a fantasy player saying, dear Marvin Harrison, please take the time you need to get your body where it needs to be and come back in week 14 with a vengeance. Sincerely, A. Michael Wilson manager.
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A
Yeah, do you see Gannon's comments on it? It's like he'll be ready whenever he's physically ready and mentally ready to play football again.
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B
What?
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A
Huh?
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B
Physically and mentally healthy to play. He'll play.
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C
I get it.
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A
Yeah, you gotta have confidence.
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C
You had an organ hit removed from your body.
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A
Yeah, but it was just a funny like I hadn't seen that one before. It's like you calling him weak.
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B
Next week it'll be like when he's mentally ready to play, he'll be back out there.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
He just cut the physical part out.
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A
Dude. He's physically ready.
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B
They're really doing a good job of sitting all their best like stars.
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A
Christian Watson at Detroit. Since returning, he's averaging 71% of snaps.
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B
This one's interesting.
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A
57 receiving yards per game. He's been the most consistent packers wide receiver over the last five weeks. He is, I think their best wide receiver. He leads all packers in wide receivers in in zone targets and deep targets. So basically the the targets you really want, those are the ones he's getting. This is a high over under in Detroit. They're going to have to passed to keep up with the Lions. And Detroit plays man coverage at the highest rate in the NFL. 42% of their drop backs are in. Man Watson leads the team in first read target share versus man one on one. He will be a problem for the Lions.
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B
I also am independently and not impacting the Watson start of the week. I just hope that Reed is back because I want to be able to think about Jordan Love in the world of fantasy football again. And right now you can't with just Watson and no Tucker Kraft and so I'm looking for. I want him back. So that game is fun. I think that'll make the Detroit game more exciting.
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A
Well, you'll find out Thursday.
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B
Thanks.
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A
Yeah, that's true.
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B
That's true, Mike.
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C
It's. I alluded to it. It's Yosh Voss versus Baltimore Ravens, so I'll keep it quick. He's just. He's going to be on the field for almost every single snap. And referring to the Ravens against the wide receiver position over the past five weeks, no, Chicago, Minnesota and the jets all scored above their expectation in terms of wide receiver scoring. So it's not. It's not completely solved yet for the Baltimore Ravens. And I think that if you are desperate for a guy, he's right there on the waiver wire for you.
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B
All right, well, this one is. This is Mark Andrews. It's Mark Andrews at the tight end position. And it might be real, real good because Cincinnati can't see the tight end position. They don't know what it is.
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C
His. His aunt Mark Andrews line at the end of the week is going to be 2 for 17 and 2 and 3 touchdowns.
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B
No, I think Mark Andrews is as much of a lock for a receiving touchdown this week as any player in the game of football for week 13. And you know, how bad is Cincinnati's defense against the tight end position start, Isaiah?
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A
Likely. That's how.
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B
I mean, that's how you probably could. They are on pace to allow the most fantasy points to the tight end position in the history of the NFL.
- [45:03]
A
Yeah.
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B
And this is not like. Like we're enough weeks in where they probably know this is a problem and can't fix it. Like last week, you made Hunter Henry the start of the week. Hunter Henry hasn't really been startable at all for weeks.
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A
And he was the tight end one.
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B
He was the tight end one.
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C
So Andrews is minus 105 for a touchdown. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
That's saying it's going to happen.
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B
Are you playing him, Jay?
- [45:24]
A
Yeah, I am.
- [45:25]
B
Okay.
- [45:25]
A
Yeah, of course.
- [45:26]
B
Over Gadsden, though.
- [45:26]
A
Over Gadsden and over Pitts and over.
- [45:29]
B
Waller and over all your other.
- [45:30]
A
And over Waller who isn't playing yet. Yeah, I'm playing.
- [45:34]
B
I've heard of a taxi squad. He's got a tight end squad.
- [45:36]
A
Yeah, my tight end start of the week, Dalton Schultz, the doctor who Andy pooped all over yesterday. I'm here to inform the public that the doctor is tied to for third most tight end targets over the last month. Last week we said to not play him. The Buffalo Bills are One of the best defenses against tight ends. But if you look at the five games prior to that bad matchup, his pace was over 100 catches and over 1,000 yards at tight end. The Colts, on the other hand, are 28th in schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to tight end. And Andy, you brought up how important this game is. The doctor will be heavily involved. He's going to have tons of patience this week.
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C
Okay, I'm going with Juwan Johnson. The New Orleans Saints taking on the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins are 29th and schedule adjusted points to the tight end 27th in receiving yards per game allowed to the tight end position. And since the. The trade of Rashid Shahid, since the move over to Tyler Schuck is like, it's Juwan and it's Chris Olave. They are. We are of a pretty consolidated target tree in New Orleans.
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B
What did he do last week?
- [46:44]
C
Last week, seven targets, six for 46.
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B
Okay. So, yeah, I thought about starting him last week. I was a little nervous still.
- [46:49]
C
Yeah. And like, he's. It won't be beautiful or I'm like, I don't think Juwan's going to be the number one tight end of the week, but I think he'll be a top five guy.
- [46:59]
B
You like him more than Loveland this week.
- [47:01]
C
That's. That's a tough call.
- [47:03]
B
Loveland's against Philly.
- [47:05]
C
I. Yeah, I think I do. The process would be. Would be Juwan over Loveland, but, like, he's Mr. Loveland. Mr. Love. I'm sorry, Mr. Loveland. Juwan has the fourth most receiving yards at the tight end position this year. Right now he's been solid. We haven't really had our super Spike week yet, so maybe it's this week.
- [47:25]
B
He had a little injury blip.
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C
Yeah, he did.
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B
You've had the trade, and maybe it's time to get back on board. That was starts of the week presented by Tostitos. Tostitos is the proud chip and dip sponsor of the NFL again this season. Sold nationwide online or at your local grocery store. Visit tostitos.com for more information.
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A
Dude, I love them. I love. I love the juicers, but the Megalodon episode, I enjoy it because, you know, we're usually trying to keep this tight, like, not go too long. And I feel like I don't care at all about the time in this episode. They do. Yeah, they care. They want us to hurt.
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B
Every time I hit the Doosers camera, it's a slow head shake from Al Borland.
- [48:06]
A
Yeah, he's just like who is.
- [48:08]
B
Who is really committed to wearing the hat no matter what? Well, he's got the hat on.
- [48:12]
A
Yeah, it's even extra hot with the hat.
- [48:16]
B
I mean, you are just a shadow man.
- [48:18]
A
But before we move on, okay, since it's the Megalodon, I got one special thing for the Foot Clan out there. Hit it, Jer.
- [48:28]
B
What? What?
- [48:32]
A
That's right. Jason Moore's ironclad, locked and loaded, 100% guaranteed. Boom.
- [48:38]
B
Boom. Oh, my gosh.
- [48:40]
A
That's right, baby.
- [48:41]
B
All the people are gonna be so happy.
- [48:43]
A
Oh, yeah. Like a true ranch hand, I mounted the mega and began screaming and flinging his poop.
- [48:51]
B
Oh, my God.
- [48:52]
A
Armed with two tons of Duka, and I, his trusty bazooka, we laid waste like the Ravens. Tyler Loop.
- [49:06]
B
Oh, I did not expect that to ever return to this show.
- [49:10]
A
And it will never come back again.
- [49:12]
B
I do wonder how much of this was you discovered a kicker's last name was Loop.
- [49:16]
A
Yeah, I could. I could rhyme that. I could work with that.
- [49:18]
B
You could not.
- [49:19]
A
Finally, someone gave me something to work with. The Tyler Loop. Yeah.
- [49:24]
B
Okay, well, that was. I'll be honest. You know what I thought you were going to do? Because I saw you whisper earlier right before the show.
- [49:32]
C
Do you know, I had a guess.
- [49:34]
B
I thought you were going to put yourself in the Ring of Honor.
- [49:35]
A
I thought you were going to put.
- [49:36]
C
Yourself in the Ring of Honor.
- [49:37]
A
I thought you were coming to the Ring of Honor. Oh, I should have. Oh, my gosh.
- [49:41]
C
I thought that was 100% what was going to happen.
- [49:44]
A
I got to make a note, but.
- [49:45]
B
You did a great job, and, well, shoot. Let's take.
- [49:49]
C
Guys, it's just me.
- [49:50]
A
Yeah, I know. Footballers.
- [49:52]
C
Ring of Honor.
- [49:53]
A
I don't have that gumption.
- [49:54]
B
You got a cell phone? Introduct yourself. All right, we will take another quick break and come back with our fantasy forecast.
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A
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B
Well, it's the midpoint of the season, and Thanksgiving is just around the corner. But that doesn't mean you should be stuffing a waiver wire, no name into your turkey of a fantasy team. Smart managers always have a backup plan. It's like having the right insurance switch to progressive. Progressive Casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. I mean, I can. I can see the Twitter comments. They're going to be thrilled. You brought it back for the people. For the people on the Megalodon Show. Full of poop, as always.
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C
Yeah.
- [51:13]
A
Fantasy forecast presented by Prize Picks.
- [51:18]
B
You were his trusty bazooka.
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A
Mm.
- [51:21]
B
Very, very nice. All right, we said it already. No bye weeks. This week we have three Thanksgiving Day matchups. So we'll jump right into the Thanksgiving Day slate. The Green bay Packers is seven, three and one going to Detroit. Detroit seven and four, the Vegas line. Detroit minus two and a half. The over, under 48 and a half. I feel like I was pretty wrong about Detroit coming out and kind of doing what they wanted to do last week. I thought after the loss they would do that. They end up in overtime.
- [51:54]
A
Slow start. But then Jameer Gibbs was like, I got this.
- [51:56]
B
Yeah, but it took overtime. I mean, they should have lost. That game shows me that, you know, it's kind of like it's not Buffalo because Buffalo, I think we've seen more significant issues. Yeah, but it's a little bit like Buffalo in the fact that not every game has gone the way Detroit's games went last year. They've struggled a little bit. They're figuring things out on offense. They've had to change play callers. And I think this game is going to be pretty exciting. I think the two and a half point line. Green Bay did win in week one. 27:13. This division is tight. Eight and three, Bears seven and three, packers seven and four, Lions. That tie might come into play in a big way this year, but you know, you look at what the Detroit offense has done with Dan Campbell calling the play. 64% neutral pass rate. It was only 51% with John Morton. He's a big fat liar. Also about David Montgomery's workload.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because when push comes to shove, Gibbs gets it done.
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A
Yeah. I mean, last week I thought would be a good week for Monte. The same way that you thought it would be a good week for Detroit. Yeah, I think if things are going.
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B
In control of the game.
- [53:03]
A
Yeah, exactly. But this ironically projects to not be one of those games. And so you would not think this is a good game for David Montgomery, that they will require Jameer Gibbs to have the bulk of the work.
- [53:18]
B
Jameer Gibbs has been targeted on 38% of his route since Dan Campbell took over. The highest rate of any player in.
- [53:24]
C
The National Football league makes sense.
- [53:26]
B
That's not the problem in this game in terms of your start sit decisions. You play Jameer Gibbs and if Josh Jacobs is active, you play him with a slight terror in your soul because it's Detroit and it might not be a full workload.
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A
Yeah, I mean, I've got, I've got Jacobs right now and it's like I'm starting him over definitely over David Montgomery. But he's in that category where I'm looking at Chris Olavi, I'm looking at Roma Dunes A currently I have Josh Jacobs started over Roma Dunes and that hurts.
- [54:00]
B
Yeah. I mean it. I feel like I would do the same. Is there a world where, you know, Mike, you talked about Kenny Gainwell. Right. And that committee situation. Do you see any world in the that you would play Emmanuel Wilson after what he did last week if Jacobs is active?
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C
Oh, I can see an argument for it. But I would expect that if they timeshare that when they get close to the end zone, like the high value touches will still go to Jacobs. So I think that I wouldn't be excited to play Wilson.
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A
Yeah. And it's a tough matchup. I mean, the Lions have for years been one of the most difficult rushing matchups.
- [54:38]
B
Yeah, these are, you know, the packers defense is great. The running defense for the Lions has been great. Christian Watson, Jason, you made him your start of the week. I am curious if I pan over to Mike here. If you're looking at the boom bust of Christian Watson and the boom bust of Jameson Williams, last week was very painful. For those that had the three straight weeks of Jameson Williams dominance, which of those two players would you play in your lineup this week?
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C
Eileen, still Jameson Williams do remember he had multiple big plays called back because of dumb penalties. I'm with Jason. I like Watson. Like I'm playing him as, you know, a wide receiver, 2, 3 type of a play this week. But Jameson Williams is there too. And I think the ceiling is still higher for Williams. And I mean, maybe it's just narrative and stuff, but Jared Goff has been pretty good on Thanksgiving, you know, over his last four or five years.
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B
Are you making a Jordan Love decision this week?
- [55:40]
A
No, no. Jordan Love and golf?
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B
No, because of the packers defense, I.
- [55:44]
A
Think golf could be in play. I'd certainly start him over. Jordan Love them going to home, but there's, there's probably better options out there.
- [55:52]
B
Anybody else from this game you guys think are worthy of talking about other wide receivers on Green Bay that you care about?
- [55:57]
A
I mean, if Jaden Reed comes back. Are you willing to play him?
- [56:00]
B
No, no, but I'm. I'd be a lot happier for Jordan. Love. Yeah. And then Monty is hitting the bench. Jason?
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A
Yeah, Monty.
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C
I would play him.
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B
Percentage of rushing attempts at running back for him, 48%. 33%. 25%.
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A
I mean, he hasn't been inside the top 20 at running back since week five. It's wild because he is probably the most valuable insurance back should something happen to Gibbs. But outside of that, he didn't used.
- [56:29]
B
To be an insurance back.
- [56:30]
A
No. No, he didn't.
- [56:32]
B
You always had the amazing strength to start him. Like I've been expecting this to happen in this backfield for the last two years. For two years. And it's always been Monty finds a way to score. And that's a little bit of why the offense doesn't seem the same, is because they'd have those first drives of the game and you'd have the touchdowns by Monty. It's been a little off.
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A
I agree.
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B
The Kansas City Chiefs at 6 and 5 take on the Dallas Cowboys 5, 5 and 1 re.
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C
Get that over. Under.
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B
I mean, this one is important. Kansas City minus three and a half in Dallas over, under 52. Case. This is exciting. It was a fun game for Thanksgiving.
- [57:12]
A
I hope so, man.
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B
I mean, you're going to end up with either. You know, Kansas City could be back at 500 after this one. Dallas, they're fighting for their lives. Huge comeback win last week. I mean, I don't know. The defense is improving, so we'll see what happens. Dak is my start of the week at quarterback. Mahomes, you have to play him in this game.
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C
Yes.
- [57:37]
B
And the news, we had some reports of George Pickens injury, knee, calf. But he was limited on Tuesday. A kneecap. Yeah, his kneecap hurted.
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C
That's how I like my coffee.
- [57:49]
B
Okay.
- [57:50]
C
Swish.
- [57:52]
A
Oh, swish.
- [57:54]
B
Jason just took four seconds to get it.
- [57:56]
A
Yeah, I was trying.
- [57:57]
C
Yeah, but he's dumb. It's also. I don't.
- [58:03]
B
Let me hear you.
- [58:04]
C
I don't actually like my coffee like that, so I don't even.
- [58:06]
B
And of course the Falcon love that joke. All right. So.
- [58:08]
A
Yeah. How does that make you feel knowing that the Falcon enjoyed.
- [58:12]
C
I said swish. And I will say nothing else.
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A
All right.
- [58:15]
B
Do you have a prediction in this.
- [58:17]
C
Game of a winner?
- [58:19]
B
Yeah. Every time I've tried to pick Dallas to be the almost upset and pull it off, they always have that let down game. That's what I'm worried about in this one.
- [58:28]
A
I am Terrified of the massive letdown game from the Cowboys because the Chiefs defense is really good now. The Eagles defense is very good. But there is, whenever there's a divisional game, Cowboys, Eagles, they're used to seeing each other. They get up for that. Obviously you get up for the Chiefs and Mahomes and all of that, but I think there's a world where the Chiefs come in here and shut down the Cowboys. That's my biggest fear.
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B
Spankopotamus.
- [58:53]
A
I love the 52 1/2 point over under. Gives me more confidence to play the Cowboys players. I think the hardest one right now is probably Javante.
- [59:03]
B
Yeah, I'm playing the Chiefs number two against running backs. Only giving up 13 fantasy points a week. But I think you probably start your.
- [59:09]
C
RB7 on the year like Javante or Trevo Henderson against the Giants.
- [59:15]
B
That matchup is really good for Trevo.
- [59:17]
C
Okay.
- [59:19]
A
And like I said, I would play R.J. harvey over him. So I'm not saying like bench Javante, but I do think if you have good options there might be in consideration for.
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B
So can I make a counter argument?
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A
Yeah.
- [59:33]
B
Philadelphia was the running back four. So I'm looking at his tough matchups on the year. Green Bay.
- [59:38]
A
Are you talking about week one?
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B
Yep.
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A
Okay.
- [59:40]
B
Green Bay, he was the running back 14. That's a tough matchup. Denver tough matchup, running back 10. And then last week against Philly, running back 19. So I guess he's going to be.
- [59:55]
A
Involved and you feel like you're going.
- [59:56]
B
To have a decent floor that isn't going to go away.
- [59:59]
A
I would agree with that. He's got a floor of 7 1/2 points.
- [60:03]
B
Kareem Hunt was dominant last week. 30 opportunities and 100 yards and a touchdown. Isaiah Pacheco should be back. Are you still going Kareem Hunt over Pacheco?
- [60:13]
A
I would definitely go Kareem Hunt over Pacheco. I think if they get around the goal line, it's going to be Hunt. Hunt is great there. And you're looking for touchdowns. I don't really want to start any of them, but definitely it would be Hunt as the first man up.
- [60:28]
B
Are you in agreement, Mike?
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C
Yeah, I lean that way.
- [60:31]
B
But do you feel a little bit hesitant on both of them or.
- [60:33]
C
Yes.
- [60:33]
B
Okay. Yeah. The rushing defense in particular for Dallas, they were 25th in terms of fantasy points allowed. They've been number. They're number 10 now in terms of the last six weeks. So they have shored that up receiver wise. Is it Rashi Rice and no one else?
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A
Yep, it's definitely not Xavier Worthy. He had eight targets last week. That was his most in months and it still was an irrelevant game. He's an explosive athlete that could get a touchdown. The matchup is great against him.
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B
I can tell you. He's my touchdown guarantee for the week.
- [61:02]
A
For real?
- [61:03]
B
Yeah. Xavier Worthy is.
- [61:04]
A
Well, then you got to play him.
- [61:05]
B
What's my touchdown guarantee?
- [61:06]
A
If he gets the touchdown, you're going to be happy. You played him and you heard it here. It's a guarantee.
- [61:09]
B
It's been a while.
- [61:10]
A
Andy is personally guaranteeing right for your lineup.
- [61:14]
C
I feel like if, man, if Worthy gets a touchdown in this game, it's a. It will be a big one. I. Wow.
- [61:21]
A
I'm changing my opinion and I'm definitely starting.
- [61:24]
B
That's my touchdown guarantee of the week. Xavier Worthy. I have a strong conviction on that one. Jake Ferguson would be the one player the Chiefs have struggled against tight ends over the last six weeks. Would you play Jake Ferguson or would you go back to Kyle Pitts after a down?
- [61:39]
C
Ferguson, you'd go Ferguson. Yes.
- [61:41]
A
I. Yeah, I agree.
- [61:43]
B
Just love the over, under and situation in this one. All right. Cincinnati is 3 and 8. They take on the 6 and 5. Baltimore Ravens are last Thanksgiving Day game. The Ravens have the highest implied point total of any team in week 13 at 29.3 against Cincinnati. Baltimore minus seven over. Under 51 and a half. You're. I mean, for Thanksgiving Day games to have a 48 and a half. 52 and a half. 51 and a half.
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C
Yeah, we're. We are loving it.
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A
Thanksgiving's gonna be awesome.
- [62:14]
B
That is three sick turkeys right there. Three sick turkeys on Thanksgiving. I'm all for it. Let's. Let's get the points. Cincinnati 3 and 8. It'll be Joe Burrows return. So are you excited about that? Yeah.
- [62:35]
A
Is that. Is that the.
- [62:37]
C
It's just the. I mean, the dude hasn't played football in a very, very long time.
- [62:41]
A
That's the. Saved by the bell.
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C
Yeah. You're so scared. Yes.
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B
Yeah.
- [62:45]
C
Yeah. You must be. You must be excited and scared for Joe Burrow hasn't played in a very long time. Historically, not a fast starting quarterback at the beginning of the season. So I wonder if that hangover happens to him against Baltimore. But if I have him, I'm playing him over. I mean, it's like golf or Burrow. I'm playing Burrow.
- [63:08]
B
You're playing Jackson dart over Burrow. If he's healthy and back out there.
- [63:12]
C
Man, I will have to make that decision. But as of right now I would just play burrow.
- [63:15]
B
The crazy thing is Baltimore's defense number three against fantasy quarterbacks in the last six weeks, number four against running backs, two against tight ends. It has.
- [63:25]
A
Their defense has been great.
- [63:26]
B
It's been a big deal and it.
- [63:28]
A
Needs to be because Lamar is banged up. He has not been running the same. I mean he's dealing with now the toe injury. So yeah, their defense has stepped up and I worry a little bit about this game. Usually when you see the Bengals and the Ravens a high over under the Ravens defense being as injured as it was early this year, the Bengals defense being what it is, you just want every piece in the game and this is a prime time turkey day game. It has everything you want but man, Lamar just scares me with the way he's been playing lately.
- [64:08]
B
This is a pretty important game for getting back on track for Lamar for your like if he struggles at home with the highest in play point total.
- [64:16]
C
Of the year it will feel against.
- [64:17]
B
Cincinnati you will have trepidation towards the fantasy playoffs. Yeah.
- [64:21]
A
And they these two teams play each other in three weeks.
- [64:25]
B
Wow. Yeah. Lamar, right now in this matchup I don't see how you sit him down even with the bad performances. Derek Henry. It's cold outside. Say no more. I mean Derek Henry, at this time.
- [64:36]
A
Of year, if you adjust for schedule, The Bengals are 32nd of 32 teams given up to the running back, just 31st. So yeah, I think that the snow, I mean stay safe if you're in Vermont because you're going to get snowed.
- [64:55]
B
In start of the week. Mark Andrews in this game at tight end you won't have T. Higgins. So Mike, you have your start of the week of Andre Yoshivas. We've talked a lot about this game. You're playing Chase, of course and you're playing Chase Brown who's been a top 15 running back in five consecutive weeks.
- [65:11]
C
Yeah. The question will be samaj P. Ryan, who is fully practicing. He's going to play. I mean it was not hard to see an uptick of work for Chase Brown while P. Ryan has been out. I believe with the ankle injury. I don't think P. Ryan comes in immediately and takes all of his work back. But that will be the thing to watch if you got Chase Brown.
- [65:33]
B
Okay. And then the zay flowers. Every week we say the same thing which is yeah, high floor and a six foot ceiling. Which works for him. It does work for him.
- [65:45]
C
Give him a seven. I'll give him a seven foot ceiling.
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B
He's Comfortable in six? Yeah, he's fine. All right. Black Friday game. Chicago eight and three. The Eagles eight and three. Oh boy. This is when things could really get wild for Chicago. If they could find a way here.
- [66:04]
C
Yeah.
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B
Which I can't do. Find the way that they find the way. But you don't know. I mean Philadelphia seven point favorites over under 44 and a half. That's not a lot, man. The, the. This is a battle between teams that have been awesome in one score games which I could see this being Chicago 6 and 1, Philly 7 and 2. The 2 and 3 seed in the NFC right now behind Los Angeles. I mean Chicago already is a great story. Chicago as a possible bi week contender. Yeah, that's an incredible story. And these are two teams that turn the other teams over a lot. Chicago's number one in turnover differential. If you win one score games and you turn the other team over, your quarterback can run like his tails on fire. I mean the frenetic Mike you were. You guys had been in here and had your little like, oh crap, oh.
- [66:55]
A
Crap, oh crap, oh crap.
- [66:55]
B
Yeah, like the way Caleb plays quarterback. I saw it this past week with Jason. It was like, oh my gosh. Every play feels like there's one second on the clock. It's crazy.
- [67:05]
C
Yep. So sorry. Now we got to take a break for real life because sometimes on this show we hate giving our advice. We give it, but we hate it because this is what we're going to be doing.
- [67:22]
B
Oh my gosh.
- [67:24]
C
And I last on this Saturday. I had messaged Kyle and I was like, I put the receipt in there. I said, am I crazy to think that the Saints might be our playoff dst?
- [67:35]
B
This is league of record. Jason brought it up on.
- [67:38]
A
Just because you said that doesn't mean you made a bid early.
- [67:40]
C
I already had a bid in. I 100% had a bid. Jason, so happy my bid went up.
- [67:45]
A
Yeah.
- [67:46]
C
But my bid was. My bid was already three bucks and yours was zero, so.
- [67:50]
B
And then I made the joke that his name was really five.
- [67:52]
C
Yeah. So I went to six.
- [67:54]
A
Six?
- [67:55]
C
Yeah.
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B
So you just took the Saints D. Yeah. And Jason, you don't have them.
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A
I don't have them now.
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B
I didn't realize what was happening.
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A
What a terror. What a. The Saints suck, Mike.
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C
Trust me, I know. I was very hesitant. I wasn't so mad. I wasn't even going to pick them up this week. I was going to.
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B
Wait, you said something and.
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C
Well then I saw.
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A
No, no, no.
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C
I saw it in the. I saw it in the doc.
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A
And I'm like, until I put it in the dock. And you're like, oh, yeah, Well, I got to do it now because you.
- [68:22]
C
Put in the dock, I knew that you were going to be in on them. And I was like, well, so had.
- [68:26]
A
I not done that, I would have got them for zero. Just like I expected, because I very possible.
- [68:30]
B
Hey, hey, hey, brother, brother. You got a lucrative fantasy football podcast that you help run.
- [68:35]
A
I don't care. I want a championship and league of record. Okay, I trade it all.
- [68:40]
C
Yeah, no, but the bid was already in. It got increased, so.
- [68:43]
B
Hey, fight.
- [68:44]
C
You siphoned Fab away from me for nothing.
- [68:47]
A
Okay, well, farts.
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B
You need a turkey outfit for Mike. Okay. All right, back to this game. Chicago, Philadelphia. Caleb Williams. This is wild. He's been a top 10 quarterback six times. He's been QB 20 or worse five times and nothing else in between.
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A
I would.
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B
He's never been quarterback 11 through 19.
- [69:12]
A
It's really tough to think that he's going to be top 10 this week against the Eagles defense.
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B
The.
- [69:18]
A
You know, Caleb can get under pressure, can get rattled. We enjoy watching him, you know, when he. When he drops back and gets pressure just going like, oh, no. Oh, no, no, no. He's been playing great, making plays, passing touchdowns, finishing well for fantasy. But the matchup really is difficult to say. This is a week to plug Caleb in your lineup. I would be trepidatious. I mean, they're only implied for 18.
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B
Points and he's had his big games, a lot of them, against bad defenses.
- [69:51]
C
So the ultimate streamer. Jacoby Brissette. Oh, okay.
- [69:55]
A
I don't think Brissette is a streamer anymore. I really don't. He's just someone you need to be starting every week.
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C
I agree with that, but roster percent. I'm sure it has to have gone up.
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B
I mean, there wasn't like, Brissette is in lineups for me this week everywhere, and I'm not even thinking about the Jordan Love Brissette, those type of questions. Golfer Brissette. I'll just play Brissette. Jalen hurts, though. You play him, you play sake one, you play AJ Brown, and then you make sure devonte Smith is okay.
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A
Right. He's dealing with a shoulder chest injury. He did not participate.
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B
Shoulder chest.
- [70:27]
A
Shoulder chest. Did not participate in practice on Tuesday. So just monitor that. If he plays, you play him. It's a great matchup against the Bears. They give up a lot of fantasy points to wide receivers. The real question is the wide receivers just all the receivers, all the pass catching, all the pass catchers. Roma Dunes A DJ Moore, Colson Loveland. I'll say Luther Burden's name but you shouldn't be starting him.
- [70:51]
C
I'm still on team stash him. I agree that the most likely outcome is it doesn't happen for Burden this year. But he is the type of player in a situation where over the last four or five weeks he could really take.
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B
I can't. I don't. I just don't agree.
- [71:06]
A
What do you do with Odunes? The first month of the season he was the wide receiver 3 in fantasy. He has continued since that time to be the target leader on the team. And yet he is the wide receiver 44 in fantasy and he's pulling a CD lamb. Apparently when I bring guys onto my roster, they don't know how to catch the ball.
- [71:26]
B
That's true.
- [71:26]
A
He's dropping it like it's hot.
- [71:28]
B
You put too much pressure on your guys. Well, that's what it is.
- [71:31]
C
They need to a real variable.
- [71:33]
A
That's fine. Vrabel gets it done. They need, they need to, you know, perform under pressure.
- [71:40]
B
Well, they're not for you. I look, I still look at a Dunes as a must start type of guy. Now this matchup, if you.
- [71:46]
A
Would you start him over?
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B
What tier are we in? Would I start a Dunes? No, I would not start a Dunes over Jacobs earlier I agreed with you. I'd play. I'd play Dunes I or I play Jacobs. Christian Watson, Roma Dunes A Is that a question for you? Troy Franklin, Roma Dunes. Michael Pittman, Roma Dunes.
- [72:02]
A
I would play Michael Pittman and Christian Watson ahead of Romaines.
- [72:04]
B
Houston's not a good matchup for Pittman either. Those are back to back in our rankings.
- [72:08]
A
That's true.
- [72:09]
B
Pittman, Troy Franklin though I might play him over both those guys this week.
- [72:13]
A
Yeah, I thought about making him a start of the week.
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B
Troy Franklin.
- [72:17]
C
Troy just all Broncos all the time.
- [72:21]
A
Yeah, I mean it should be a good offensive.
- [72:24]
B
Would you play Shakir with how much of a target share he's been getting or would you play Roma Dunes A Mike.
- [72:29]
C
I would play Rome.
- [72:31]
B
Okay. It's going to get better, Jay. It's going to get better. Colston Loveland or Britain strange against Tennessee.
- [72:38]
C
As Mr. Love Loveland.
- [72:40]
B
The Lovemaker. Hashtag love maker.
- [72:44]
A
Did you say or Britain Strange?
- [72:45]
C
No, don't search that one.
- [72:47]
B
Okay. Britain Strange against Tennessee or the Lovemaker.
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A
This week I'm going Britain Strange. I completely agree with what you guys said yesterday on the waiver wire. Show though that if you, if you need to roster one tight end the rest of season for Loveland is far more valuable than Strange. So I, you know, on a weekly basis I would start Strange, but I'd rather have Loveland.
- [73:12]
B
One thing that is working in Strange's favor is the, the way the wide receiver room has changed since he had left. Right. You have no Hunter, No Brian Thomas Jr. Parker Washington can't carry it all. I'm kind of interested in that and I think I would go, I think I'd play him. He'd be the one over. The upside of Colston Loveland this week, Philly's just such a good defense. The other receiving options, DJ Moore just randomly shows up at times and then is gone at other times, I, I just hesitate. And the running backs, I feel the same way. It's just a little nerve wracking this week. Everybody on Chicago. It feels a little bit scary.
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A
Yeah, I mean it's funny. DJ Moore is a guy that you really can't play. I mean he was two touchdowns last week, 20 points. And then a month ago he was 21 points with a touchdown, a big game. And outside of those two games he's pretty much been irrelevant the entire season.
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B
Yeah. Anybody else from this match we want to Talk about? Mike?
- [74:08]
C
DJ Moore is three games over 10 points.
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A
Yeah.
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C
That is.
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B
How many games does I guess a dunes? They probably is a lot more than that.
- [74:15]
C
Rome. Yeah, he's got to have more. So six.
- [74:19]
B
Okay. Yeah, we. That's it for the, that's the Black Friday game. That one will be fun too.
- [74:26]
C
Yes.
- [74:27]
B
That one is an early game though, right about 1 o' clock our time, 3 Eastern. That's what I'm seeing.
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C
I guess I've never, I haven't considered the time.
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A
As a reminder, we talk about it every time that there is a, you know, Thursday night matchup to get those guys out of your flex and put them in your lineup. But with so many games being early this week, double check and make sure all your Thanksgiving and your Black Friday players put them in the running back and wide receiver slots. Leave your flex open as the week goes on.
- [74:57]
B
Yeah, that's a big deal this week. So what we'll do is we'll take our, we'll take another break and we'll get into the Sunday matchups.
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A
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C
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B
All right, into the Sunday matchups we go.
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A
The doozers look so stupid. I was thinking so stupid.
- [76:28]
B
One of them's got their mouthful.
- [76:30]
A
Tell me how it feels in the costume right this second. Pretty good.
- [76:35]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
Caught red handed.
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B
Little megala snack.
- [76:39]
A
Yeah, Just eating. Munching away on our dime over there.
- [76:42]
B
On our dime. Like our employees can't eat.
- [76:45]
A
Well, you can't eat on my watch.
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C
Who dare you eat?
- [76:49]
A
Who sucks? Hey, who paid for that snack, huh? You did. Yeah. So what is the.
- [76:56]
B
You're trying to attack him? You just have nothing.
- [76:59]
A
Look, we're in the middle of a show.
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B
You could say he's got too big of a bite or whatever he's eating over.
- [77:03]
A
He's been chewing that for 12 minutes. I've been watching only a bit on.
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B
Break for like 10 seconds. All right, we are back into the Sunday game. San Francisco seven and four, Cleveland three and eight. Vegas line. San Francisco minus four and a half. The over unders 36 and a half. The line opened at 40, but it's down to 36 and a half.
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A
Oh, I think that makes sense.
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B
We do have some weather.
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C
Oh man, we got some weathery concerns here.
- [77:32]
B
Just a nice 38 degrees out. Rain, snow, wind, potential cool. You got Shador. Two weeks of practice for Shador.
- [77:41]
A
He grew up kind of living that hard knock life. I don't think this weather is really going to affect him much. He's. Yeah.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Well, I'm excited that he's playing again.
- [77:52]
C
Yeah.
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B
But wasn't the most impressive week for Brock Purdy. We know this and it probably won't be again like if you have the Browns defense, like they're in like I just. I let Jacksonville's defense go. I'm playing the Browns. The Browns are just too good. They sack the quarterback. They have the weather situation. I still don't understand how Christian McCaffrey is open on every play for a pass whenever they want to do that for all of eternity. But, yeah, I don't know how complicated this game really is. For fantasy purposes, I'll be excited to see Shador start. But Christian McCaffrey, you know, you're playing him. Quinshon Judkins.
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A
Yeah, he's a good start. He's at home.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Bad weather. You're going to have to run the ball and you can. The 49ers defense is really middle of the pack. They're not terrible, they're not great. So I don't view them as anything but an average defense at this point.
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B
You could argue they're on the more terrible side.
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C
Yeah, they've tested a lot of injuries, but. Yeah, I agree.
- [78:49]
B
No, because of the injuries, sure. George Kettle, you play, and I don't know if you touch another player in the game. I don't think you mess with wide receivers from San Francisco against the number one past defense in football.
- [79:02]
A
Yeah, it's not a great matchup, obviously. I think most everybody would say that Juwan Jennings would be the player to target.
- [79:10]
C
Yes.
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B
Is he doing okay?
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A
Kittle is. Kittle is the.
- [79:14]
C
Gotta be recovered by now.
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A
Deep breath, deep breath, Juan. Yeah, I think it's Kittle McCaffrey on that side, Quincean Judkins on the other, and that's it. This game is real easy.
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C
No, Fanning?
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A
No, I don't think so. I don't. I don't want Shador in bad weather. I mean, Shador, I feel like could end up throwing for 100 yards. And so it's like, okay, great. Maybe Fanning gets, you know, 40% of all the yards.
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C
That would be good. Last week he was 4 for 40.
- [79:50]
A
Yeah, Najoku's back as well, so I'm not excited about any pass catcher.
- [79:56]
B
Have you guys. Have you punished me by just like, removing the button from my screen? Is that what it is? I don't get a button.
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A
Andy's almost upset of the week.
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B
I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't blame you for taking it off the board. It was not intended to get me clear, to be clear, but I'll go with the almost upset here in the. In the weather game for Cleveland and that defense. And after we saw that from Purdy. All right, the Jacksonville Jaguars, winners of two consecutive awards for the burnt dinner rolls. If you don't know who the Jacksonville Jaguars are taking on the 1 in 10 Tennessee Titans. Vegas line here. Jacksonville minus six and a half over, under is 41 and a half.
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A
So has there ever been a least like, less impressive 7 and 4 team? Like, I look at the Jaguars and I think their defense is, is. Is pretty good.
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C
They're one game out of the division.
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A
I know, but it's like I don't view them as this really tough opponent. Now, obviously here going to play Tennessee, they're probably going to be 8 and 4. The Titans have only beat the Arizona Cardinals at a game that the Cardinals gave away. But the Titans are playing better football. It's just an interesting. Like, when I look at Jacksonville, they feel a little phony to me.
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C
They're putting up points, you know, 30 against Vegas, 29 against Houston. They lost, but 29 points, 29 against Houston is 35 against the Chargers and 27 against Arizona.
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A
They did. Maybe I need to give them a little bit more respect because they beat the tarnation out of the Chargers.
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B
Yeah. They would be in the midst of a great winning streak if they hadn't blown a huge lead against Houston.
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A
Yeah.
- [81:44]
C
That was all in the fourth quarter, right?
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B
Pretty much.
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C
Maybe they're okay.
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B
Yeah. But I get. I think they're as funny as Mr. Like, I think he's done a great job and Travis ETN has been awesome. He's been a top 12 running back in four consecutive games. He's too important to the offense. I feel like right now with the absence of Brian Thomas, Travis Hunter, I feel like you can be like, are you feeling confident about Travis etn, Jason, or are you worried about the. When the shoe's going to drop?
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A
No, I mean, it's a matchup thing to me. So I am feeling confident about Travis ETN this week. Playing against the Titans in a game where you're, you know, favored by basically a touchdown. Travis etn, it was scary. A couple weeks ago. Tutin seemed like he was the hot hand was running ahead of him. Then he got banged up. He practiced though, and played last week and he was very much not.
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C
It was etn.
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A
It was the ETN show. So I'm not sure if that's entirely because of health and just kind of resting Tootin a little bit more. But I'm not worried about etn. I think he is a good play this week and most weeks he's going to be a good play. I mean, what is he. He's. He's a running back one right now on the season.
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C
He's top 12. So the last month has been fantastic.
- [82:59]
A
And then I think the big question is Brian Thomas Jr. We talk about it a lot. Usually with a high ankle sprain. You missed three games. He didn't go on ir. He has missed three games.
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B
I think we had a comment, Liam Cohen saying they'll take it day by day with Brian Thomas Jr's ankle return. Definitely need his presence.
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A
Yeah, I think Brian Thomas should be back this week.
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B
Okay.
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A
Are you.
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B
If he's not, I'm very confident in Parker Washington, let me put it that way.
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C
Are you immediately playing Brian Thomas?
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A
I would play Brian Thomas if he's back. I mean, it's obviously a matter of who do you have. But if we want to look at some Alex Pierce, Alec Pierce against Houston, I would go Brian Thomas.
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C
The new hotness, Wanda Robinson against the Patriots. That's disgusting.
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B
Yeah, I'll go Wandale.
- [83:51]
A
Yeah, I think I'll go Wandale.
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B
There was a Quentin Johnson or Brian Thomas Jr. Question on the site. For those nauseated that want to become more nauseated.
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A
Johnson against the Raiders.
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B
I think it's huge.
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A
I'm going to go.
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B
You play Michael Wilson over Brian Thomas.
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A
Jr. Yeah, I'm going to stay in the flames of those guys, the Wondales and the Michael Wilson's, the guys who have really come on strong. I will play them and give Brian Thomas a week. But if I don't have a. I.
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B
Don'T think he's going to play, man.
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A
Yeah, I don't think so.
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B
You really don't know.
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C
And where are you at on Jacoby? I mean, we've been.
- [84:23]
B
Jacoby's all right.
- [84:23]
C
We've been ramping up 44%, 65%, 84% of the snaps.
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B
I'm fine.
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C
Four for 50 with the touchdown.
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B
Tennessee is 30th against wide receiver.
- [84:33]
C
Is it contingent on Brian Thomas or you just.
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B
Yes.
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C
Okay.
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B
Yeah.
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C
So if Thomas is out, Jacoby's in.
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B
Yeah. Honestly, like if Brian Thomas is back, it gives me a little bit of.
- [84:41]
A
You don't really want to play anyone.
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B
Sort of. And even Brenton Strange gets a little more nerve wracking for me because I like the consolidation of targets and that would make me a little nervous. We talked about Jim Ray DK in the backup option section on the other side. I don't. If you want. If you're desperate. If it's a bigger league, you need somebody. I think he's okay to throw in there, but not with high expectations. Sure. And then if you're in like nasty boy deep dynasty leagues, please pay attention to the involvement of their young rookie tight end Gunner helm. The last two weeks it's been pretty good 6 for 51 this past week. So just keep an eye on him for deeper leagues. Maybe somebody you pick up off of the waiver wire and stash in that situation.
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C
But would it. Does it surprise you guys like it does me that Tony Pollard is like he played the last two weeks.
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B
It's like he didn't.
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A
He's.
- [85:36]
C
I haven't really thought about Tony Pollard in quite some time.
- [85:40]
A
He is getting so much opportunity. I believe he's on pace for 260 plus opportunities.
- [85:45]
C
That's 16 against Seattle, 13 against Houston.
- [85:47]
A
I mean that's wonderful. If you tell me I get a running back with 260 plus opportunities on a season who hasn't missed a game, then he's got fantasy value and there's none. He's on pace for 800 yards on.
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B
The season since they fired their coach. He's on pace for 600 0.
- [86:03]
C
Kyle's message he's currently on pace for what? The lowest fantasy points per game of any running back with 250 touches.
- [86:11]
B
He's the invisible man. He really is.
- [86:13]
C
That's what I mean.
- [86:13]
B
He's the invisible. He's like he's on IR while he's playing.
- [86:16]
C
And that does not mean that Spears is getting anything done.
- [86:19]
B
No goodness.
- [86:20]
C
Which is weird. How is no one doing anything.
- [86:24]
B
Bad team. Bad, bad team.
- [86:27]
C
But they scored 24 points.
- [86:30]
B
Yeah. Tim Ray DK returned to kick.
- [86:33]
C
Oh yeah. I guess that's fair.
- [86:35]
B
Anything else from this matchup?
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C
No.
- [86:37]
A
Please, no.
- [86:38]
B
Houston six and five, the Colts eight and three. This is more fun. Vegas line here. Indy minus four and a half over under 44 and a half. Implied point total of 20 for Houston, 24 for the Colts. There have been a couple of games this year where Indy just doesn't feel overpowering. Right. Like they've had the games where they seem like a machine. You've had a little bit of a down spell for Jonathan Taylor at least not really. I mean you had the bye week and then you had to come out of the bye week and he didn't win you your week and that's considered a downspell for him. But sure was all of the.
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A
What a pathetic loser.
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B
All of the losses for Houston on the entire year, all five of them are one score losses. So they have been in literally every single game and really the underperformance of the offense has probably been the difference. Couldn't make big plays at the end. They have been making them. All their losses have been against playoff teams. The Rams Buccaneers, Jacksonville, Seattle and Denver. So Houston, I think is much better than people give them credit for. And you're starting to see it now with the way the defense has played and the fact they're above.500. And then this game is a. What would you call, Jason? A litmus test?
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A
Litness.
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B
Litness test with an in down with the litness.
- [87:47]
A
Yeah. So I'm seeing a note. CJ Stroud is expected to return for this game. Does that, I mean, does that give you more confidence or less confidence?
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B
I'm still on team Stroud's better for you.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Mills, not for the Texans. I'm saying like Nico Collins.
- [88:02]
C
Yes.
- [88:03]
A
If you're starting Nico, you're starting Dalton Schultz. Like Dalton Schultz has really been much better with. You know, it could just be happenstance of the time and the specific.
- [88:14]
C
There was a couple good games in there with Stroud, though.
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B
Yeah, I was going to say that he actually, he put up a quarterback for a week against Baltimore when they were still struggling, but he also put up a quarterback four week against San Francisco in week eight. So out of his last four starts, you had two top five performances. I think it's probably being overplayed. Like their defense has been carrying. Stroud is. I mean, Davis Mills has definitely executed the offense very well, but I think it's a lot like Mac Jones and Brock Purdy. You could kind of be like, oh man, we've won the games with Mac Jones was like, where do you. Do you get to where you need to go with Mac Jones or do you need to bring Brock Purdy back for that? So I don't, you know, I like Woody Marks in this game. You always play Nico Collins. Jason, you like Dalton Schultz in this game, which, you know, I think those.
- [88:59]
C
Are all matchup makes sense.
- [89:00]
B
Those are all exciting matchup plays. On the other side, Jonathan Taylor, Daniel Jones. Like, where are you with Daniel Jones right now? And the other options that you might have.
- [89:08]
A
There has not been one quarterback, one performance and they've played against Houston. They just made Josh Allen look inept. I mean, they were in his face every single play. And you know, he had one of his worst games of the season. I can't imagine playing Daniel Jones in this matchup.
- [89:26]
B
I got two names that are in the start sit tool for Daniel Jones versus Joe Burrow on Thursday.
- [89:31]
A
Burrow for sure.
- [89:32]
B
And then the other one is Jordan Love against Detroit. I'd be willing to go Jordan Love.
- [89:39]
A
I'm going to go Jordan Love there. Yeah.
- [89:41]
B
So does that SAP your confidence for Pittman and Pierce.
- [89:44]
A
Yeah. I mean, Tyler Warren, the matchup is definitely one where, like, I've got Michael Pittman. He's in my lineup, but I'm holding my breath. I don't expect it to be great. The matchup for Pierce, probably even lower. Lower confidence. Looking elsewhere.
- [90:01]
B
Pierce or Slayton?
- [90:04]
A
Slayton's just been dealing with the hamstring issue.
- [90:06]
B
I think you've got Pierce or Michael Carter in a flex.
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A
Pierce, you're going real low. I'm going to my live. I don't know.
- [90:15]
B
Mike knew it right away.
- [90:16]
A
Who has these disgusting questions.
- [90:18]
B
Yeah, why? Who's grossing me out, man?
- [90:20]
A
Of course.
- [90:20]
B
You're playing Pierce over Michael Carter.
- [90:23]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [90:24]
B
Just making sure that's. That's how I have it set up, boys.
- [90:27]
A
Congrats.
- [90:28]
B
Trying to survive. Okay, so Tyler Warren, he's your tight end. You're going to play your tight end.
- [90:35]
C
Yeah.
- [90:36]
B
And I think. I think Warren can have a pretty instrumental role in fantasy championships this year. I think you're going to have some opportunities there. When you get into the fantasy playoffs, Tyler Warren is going to be right there for you. Anybody else in the receiving room? I mean, six targets last week for Christian Kirk, Jaden Higgins been making some plays. Are you going beyond Nico?
- [90:59]
C
I think that Higgins is an okay play, but I'm not going to force him in.
- [91:06]
A
Yeah, I agree. And to speak to your point, Andy, in the playoffs, the Indianapolis Colts have the third best strength of schedule for the playoffs at the tight end position. So Tyler Warren's been kind of a little bit down after his hot start to the season, but he is. He's got that dog. And the schedule will open up.
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B
All right, Mike's fantasy defense. Mike Wright. In the league of record, the New Orleans Saints at 2 and 9, take on the Miami Dolphins at 4 and 7. I was waiting for the head shake. Oh. Does this make you feel any better?
- [91:37]
A
Hey, that does make me feel better. Hey, Doozers, you guys, look.
- [91:41]
B
Can we get your best gobble? I can't believe we didn't ask for that.
- [91:44]
A
Well, one at a time. One at a time.
- [91:47]
B
All right. That was Al Borland.
- [91:48]
A
That was pretty good. That was not as good. And you never disappoint.
- [91:55]
C
Oh, all right.
- [91:57]
B
I'm going to put hashtag triple gobble.
- [91:59]
A
Into the triple gobble.
- [92:01]
B
Triple gobble. Okay, that might be it. I've got something.
- [92:04]
A
The only problem with triple gobble, it's like a. I know this is my problem and mine only, but I always want to put two P's in the word Triple.
- [92:13]
C
Oh, triple.
- [92:14]
B
You're the only one that will do that though. I don't think that'll be a problem for the rest of the world. So we'll consider that one as well. We'll announce that that hashtag soon enough. I've got three in consideration right now. So we'll see. The saints two and nine, Miami four and seven. Miami minus six in this one over. Under 41 and a half. Okay. Not a lot of start state decisions coming out of these next two matchups but let's go to the big names. I think that is, you know, H hands in every week start. You don't have to talk about it. I think on the other side you're having the Devin Neal conversation, right? You're going to see Devin Neal with opportunity. I think the five catches on seven targets last week was interesting. One of the reasons that you like Joanne Johnson is this has been consolidated, right? It's been Olave and Johnson. Devin Neal can get worked into that rotation.
- [93:03]
A
They're heavy underdogs but I like Devon Neal a lot. I think if you picked Devin Neal up, you probably are going to play him this week. I see him as a running back too. Not that he's got some crazy ceiling this week, but the involvement. He should touch the ball 15 times in a game against a middle of the road defense against the run. And I believe Devin Neal is talented. So not that he's, you know, elite by any means. He's a sixth round rookie pick but he's not, he's very competent.
- [93:37]
B
Olave is in your lineup. Waddle in your lineup.
- [93:40]
C
Yeah.
- [93:42]
B
Juwan Johnson is Mike start of the week at the tight end position. The Miami storyline this year has been so weird because they are still fighting for their coach. The over under in this one is just 41 gross. So you know, HN, you know is going to be fine. He just gets so much work. I hope we get another bounce back game from Waddle. I hope that's, you know, I think he's been. You're shaking your head. You're not so sure.
- [94:11]
C
I mean he's a, I'm playing him pretty much no matter what as a top 15 option. But the Saints defense, like we pointed out, they're, they're, they're not the worst and right now, I mean they're 11th against fantasy wide receivers over the past six weeks. So it's been tougher.
- [94:28]
B
Let me ask you some Devin Neal questions because four of the top eight start sit questions on the entire week are Devin Neal.
- [94:35]
A
Yeah.
- [94:36]
B
So These are the names that people are deciding on. Devin Neal or Woody Marks.
- [94:40]
A
Mark.
- [94:44]
B
I'm very much on the Woody.
- [94:45]
A
Woody Marks. He's got more experience right now.
- [94:48]
B
I'll lean woody Tyrone Tracy Jr. Or Devin Neal.
- [94:52]
A
I have Devin Neal one spot ahead.
- [94:54]
B
Christian Watson or Devin Neal.
- [94:57]
A
I'll go Christian Watson and then Devin.
- [94:58]
B
Neal or Aaron Jones senior.
- [95:01]
A
That one's pretty interesting. I'll go Aaron Jones senior.
- [95:05]
C
Yeah, the. Yeah, maybe the split between him and Mason was interesting. Last week of Mason finally looked like he was okay on the ground.
- [95:20]
B
Yeah. I think you start to get that office. Just had to find something.
- [95:25]
C
Sure.
- [95:26]
B
Atlanta's four and seven. The jets are two and nine. The Vegas line here. Atlanta minus two and a half in week 13 over under 39 and a half. Gross. Okay. Aaron Glenn.
- [95:41]
C
Thanksgiving is just siphoning all the good games.
- [95:43]
B
Yeah. The Falcons jets battle is not one that I'm going to be glued to. The Kirk Cousins to Rod Taylor matchup. These teams, these quarterbacks faced off against each other in 2015.
- [95:58]
A
What? Yeah, that was a minute ago.
- [96:01]
B
They were both top five quarterbacks that week. Boys. It was just ten years ago.
- [96:06]
C
Just. Yeah, you know, it's. You know, just 10 years. Yeah, it's a lifetime.
- [96:12]
A
Honestly, how impressive is it that to Rod Taylor is still playing 10 years later? Like he's. He's had a. Still around long career.
- [96:21]
B
Yeah. How old is to Rod Taylor? Is he older than Brissette? Oh, yeah, way older. 36.
- [96:27]
A
36.
- [96:27]
B
Yeah. You know, Brissette's only 32.
- [96:30]
C
Interesting.
- [96:31]
B
He feels like he's been around forever.
- [96:33]
C
Taylor has made over $82 million.
- [96:35]
A
Oh, yeah. He got a starting contract.
- [96:38]
B
There's an Instagram handle. This guy only does reels and all he does is say things like if you had made, you know, $50,000 a year since George Washington was born, you still wouldn't have made as much money as third string backup. This guy like he's got. He just. Every day it's one of those guys that you like. Holy. Like Lu all dang. Has made more money than if you made this much per minute since George Washington was born. But Trot Taylor's done good work.
- [97:06]
C
Good for you, Taylor.
- [97:08]
B
Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. All right, Bijan, play your bijon. Play your Breeze Hall.
- [97:14]
A
Yeah, it's a. It's a good matchup for Breeze Hall. The Falcons run defense has kind of evaporated. Early in the season, it seemed like they were going to shut people down.
- [97:21]
B
Who, what are they? Who, what are they?
- [97:24]
A
Nobody knows why with Kirk Cousins. And do we have an update on London Drake London, he's doubtful. Okay. So without Drake London, that version of Kirk Cousins, which is the only version we have seen so far, is going to set the jets up to be a little bit more competitive in this game, have more opportunities for Breeze Hall. So I'm happy to play Breeze this week.
- [97:44]
B
If you want to strap on a pair of significantly protective underpants. John Metchie could be okay. He's been the wide receiver 17 and 13 the last two weeks. There is, it is a little bit enticing with how bad the Falcons have been. And you look at a situation like Alec Pierce, for example, or a more, you know, even Christian Watson. Watson I'd play. But when you look at a matchup and you say, hey, do I want to go for the one big play type of guy or do I want to take a shot at John Mechi getting more targets?
- [98:21]
A
No, I agree. If you, if you look at what happened. So he got traded to the jets three weeks ago. The first week, 16% of snaps was not involved. Makes sense. He just arrived at the team. The last two weeks, 82% and 86% of the snaps. Both weeks of touchdown, both weeks decent yardage, 45 and 65 yards. They need him. And you know, he came in as a good player. He was a second round pick. Maybe a little bit overdrafted. Missed the beginning of his career with the cancer situation, but he's still a young guy, 25 years old. I like taking a shot at John Mech.
- [98:59]
C
I got a nasty one for you. Mechi or Jordan Addison?
- [99:06]
B
I play Matchy.
- [99:07]
A
I think I'm going Metchie there.
- [99:09]
C
Yeah, that's where we are.
- [99:10]
B
Yeah. No, and Kyle would like you to know Mason Taylor, zero force tackles on the season. What do you mean? Forced tackles, missed tackles. That's probably what he.
- [99:19]
C
Forced miss.
- [99:20]
B
Yeah, he said forced tackles.
- [99:22]
C
Mason Taylor forces tackles all the time.
- [99:24]
B
Yeah.
- [99:25]
C
Even when there's not a defender around.
- [99:27]
B
Yeah.
- [99:28]
A
Meow. How about Mechi vs Chimray DK?
- [99:33]
B
I see them about the same.
- [99:35]
A
Okay.
- [99:36]
B
I don't pick. I'll play them both. With my roster, probably Darnell Mooney on the other side. Or Metchie Mooney. Kyle Pitts or Metchie. No, just Kyle Pitts. I'm just saying the name out loud. Kyle Pitts. It's not even a question mark. It's just the name.
- [99:55]
C
Okay.
- [99:55]
B
He plays, he's there.
- [99:56]
C
He is.
- [99:57]
A
The punctuation after Kyle Pitts, his name is a frown Emoji.
- [100:01]
B
Right.
- [100:02]
A
It's just Kyle Pitts frown.
- [100:03]
C
If you. Kyle Pitts last week was 2 for 25. The team scored 24 points against New Orleans.
- [100:11]
B
He is so.
- [100:12]
C
There was no Drake London.
- [100:13]
B
Remember we had Mr. Necessary at tight end. Yes, he is truly unnecessary. He's Mr. Unnecessary.
- [100:19]
C
It I. He makes no sense and he honestly.
- [100:22]
A
He had a couple big plays that he dropped in that game.
- [100:25]
B
And Kyle. Who could they have drafted instead of Kyle?
- [100:27]
A
Yeah, I can't remember.
- [100:28]
B
I can't remember, man. Every person on planet Earth.
- [100:32]
A
No, but who went like those? Who was the point two?
- [100:36]
B
Some wide receiver for the Bengals. Oh my gosh. I can't remember his name. What is it?
- [100:40]
A
It's Jamar something like we're chasing that name.
- [100:44]
B
Yeah. Okay. He didn't want to say it. He's still hurting. Arizona is 3 and 8, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6 and 5. Tampa Bay is struggling right now. Yeah, Tampa Bay. They are favored three point favorites at home over under 44 and a half. Some optimism that Baker Mayfield will be able to play in this game. He is a tough son of a gun.
- [101:04]
C
He is a dog. He is. But I. If he plays, I think that's a tough start. The Cardinals on the season and over the last six weeks are 10th against fantasy quarterbacks.
- [101:18]
B
You know who's out now? Walter Nolan.
- [101:21]
C
Oh, are you serious?
- [101:23]
B
Already declared out.
- [101:24]
C
Oh, yeah.
- [101:25]
B
So I don't think Will Johnson or Walter Nolan will be out.
- [101:27]
C
The bit of say of the. The Cardinals defense against quarterbacks has been good. And you are. I mean you're one hit. One. One good hit and then you've lost your fantasy quarterback.
- [101:40]
B
That. Yeah. Playing Baker versus being happy. Baker's playing for the other players are two different things.
- [101:45]
C
Right.
- [101:45]
B
I would not try to play Baker. I would try to find another option. The over under, it's pretty low. But I want him to play. I want to see him behind center with Bucky Irving returning with a mecca Buka. They have a connection with Godwin being back out there. He only played a very small percentage of the snaps are working him into the rotation. It's just better for the game. And the Cardinals did a really good job of giving Brock Purdy his confidence a couple of weeks ago. So we will see what happens. The other report is that Bridgewater is going to get the majority of the first team reps as they wait on him. Both of those teams things should happen like Baker can play without him and Teddy needs them. So we'll see. Teddy's not the worst. Right. From a Backup quarterback perspective. He's okay. Where are you with a buca?
- [102:32]
A
If Teddy started, I'm still starting Abuka. If Teddy's starting, he targeted him enough. It didn't work out. They didn't connect a lot. But also in that last matchup, you know, it was much more difficult for Bridgewater and Baker. The Rams rush, the past defense was just annihilating that offensive line. With Walter Nolan out, I don't think the Cardinals are going to really make it as difficult for Teddy. So I'm fine. I'm not starting Teddy, I'm not starting Baker, but I am starting a Buka regardless of who the quarterback is.
- [103:06]
C
By what I can see here, Teddy hasn't started a game since 2022.
- [103:12]
A
We took some time off from football.
- [103:14]
B
Yeah, he was. Well, yeah. To coach football.
- [103:16]
A
Yeah, coach football.
- [103:17]
C
But I'm just, just saying, I mean, he, he was on the Detroit roster at least for a little bit. That's saying I'm just that like that's a long time for us to have not seen Teddy throw.
- [103:30]
B
Tampa has been statistically quite awful. Giving up 25 points a game to running backs. What do you do with the Cardinal running back room? This is why I brought up Michael Carter earlier, because you know, Bam Knight and Michael Carter, as of right now, that seems to be the guys that are going to play in this game.
- [103:47]
A
You don't think it's Trey Benson?
- [103:48]
B
I haven't seen a single report about Trey Benson playing in this game. Has anybody seen anything?
- [103:52]
A
Competitive advantage.
- [103:54]
B
I don't have any reason to believe Trey Benson's playing.
- [103:56]
A
The reason I have to believe that he could play is that at the end of last week, it seemed like there was a real chance for him to play. So given that he basically has to start this week or next week, based on the 21 day window and that he almost played last week, I would not be shocked if Trey Benson plays. If Trey Benson plays, I'm happy to start him.
- [104:16]
C
As am I.
- [104:17]
A
If Trey Benson is out. You know, there's.
- [104:20]
B
You're unhappy to start other players.
- [104:22]
A
Yeah, exactly. Yes.
- [104:24]
B
Michael. Michael Wilson. Not Michael Thomas. He's much better than Michael Thomas. Michael Wilson, the start of the week for yours truly. Would you play Michael Wilson or a buca?
- [104:34]
C
Oh, my goodness.
- [104:36]
B
That's right. That's right. Hard hitting question.
- [104:39]
A
I would go.
- [104:40]
B
Let me go to the Deucer Cam. What you think about it?
- [104:43]
C
I know what the answer is. I just don't know if I'm strong enough to say it right.
- [104:47]
B
Yeah, I'm not strong enough.
- [104:49]
A
If Marvin Harrison is inactive, I will go. Michael Wilson. If Marvin Harrison is active, I will go see.
- [104:57]
B
You know what I find interesting here? And this is really going to hit just the YouTube crowd. We've got the Cardinals, right? And we've got Tampa Bay. They look very similar, but we didn't go, like. We don't go home road on the matchup jerseys, huh?
- [105:09]
C
No.
- [105:10]
B
Okay.
- [105:10]
C
You know how much does double the work?
- [105:12]
B
It just looks like it's red on red.
- [105:14]
A
Helmets are different. Yeah.
- [105:16]
B
Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I mean, it's a long show, guys.
- [105:19]
C
I mean, do you want to. Do you want it to be like the alternative uniforms as well?
- [105:23]
B
I think it's a home and road jersey, Mike. I think that's just the way the slippery slope, the way the world works. I don't feel like it might.
- [105:28]
A
Thank you.
- [105:29]
B
That's not that hard.
- [105:29]
A
We're trying to be efficient here.
- [105:31]
B
You're wanting. Then you're like, oh, we're gonna get the color rush.
- [105:33]
C
Yes.
- [105:33]
B
No, I don't need that. I don't need color. I just want home and road.
- [105:36]
C
The graphics guy is shaking his boots right now.
- [105:39]
B
This is like a.
- [105:40]
A
Don't make me do it.
- [105:41]
B
When we do graphics for the YouTube, we did it Apple style. We limited the total package so we could release an update.
- [105:48]
A
Ah, nice.
- [105:49]
B
You know what I mean?
- [105:50]
A
Yeah.
- [105:50]
B
Could have done it right the first time, but whatever. Check out iOS27. Trey McBride. Play him, please, all the time. And then if Harrison's back, I'm moving away from Dortch. If he's not, I think Dorch is still a dart throw. If there's no Harrison, would you play Dortch or Mechie?
- [106:08]
A
Dortch or Mechi. Probably Dorch. I mean, last week, nine targets, six for 53, a touchdown again.
- [106:14]
B
So, yeah, nobody gets up in a square in a game where they're down by a bunch. And it's more excited about a nine yard catch than Greg Dorch.
- [106:22]
C
Greg Dorch, he stunts on them when they're down big.
- [106:26]
A
It's so tough because if you're not a star player, if you're not, like, part of the core of the team, then it really is about you to some degree. And so you score this touchdown. How are you not celebrating even though you're down a ton?
- [106:40]
B
I don't know.
- [106:40]
A
I. I simultaneously, I watch a guy celebrate when he's down and go. That is embarrassing.
- [106:48]
B
Like, if you catch 100 passes on the year or you catch 10 passes on the year, the 10 you catch are 10 times more valuable to you.
- [106:55]
A
And so then on the other side I'm like, I get it, man. Go celebrate. You just got that touchdown.
- [107:00]
B
That's what George does. The rams, the number one seed in the NFC at nine and two take on the Carolina Panthers who are six and five. The Rams are ten point road favorites. The over unders 44 and a half. And I enjoyed the Rico Dowdle social media tweet yesterday of just the befuddled emoji. Just the face of like I don't understand why I got six carries.
- [107:24]
A
Yeah.
- [107:24]
C
That was a coaching catastrophe to you had the first and goal on the one or maybe even the half yard line and you don't give Rico any chances. That's ridiculous. The second half opens up. Maybe they, maybe they will actually look and be like why aren't we giving Rico the ball? They give Rico the ball. Huge chunk gain. No more Rico. That was it. What, what are we doing here, man? This.
- [107:52]
B
The.
- [107:52]
C
The reason that your team is in the position is in is not because of Bryce Young. Is because of Rico Dowdle. So don't let the one game last week of the 400 yards be like, no, this is who Bryce is.
- [108:04]
B
It just makes you nervous this week.
- [108:05]
A
Yeah.
- [108:06]
B
Because the Rams are such a big great defense and a great running defense and it's like they are number one.
- [108:11]
A
On the season of fewest fantasy points given up to the running back position. They average if you, if you adjust for the schedule they've played 13 and a half fantasy points and half PPR to the running back position. So now you know Chuba is going to get some of that and it's going to be split with Rico. It's. It's a worrisome start for me where I do look at other players.
- [108:30]
B
I'm sorry, I'm. I'm looking at the start sit. Questions. This one makes sense, right? Rico Dowdle or Woody Marks, what would you do? I could see going Woody Marks. I'm fine with that.
- [108:38]
C
I can see.
- [108:38]
B
I see DeAndre Swift or Rico Dowdle. Another reasonable question.
- [108:40]
A
Sure.
- [108:42]
B
And then I go down to one of our more recent ones and somebody out there. I'm looking at you. Somebody just typed in. This is recent.
- [108:48]
A
Okay.
- [108:48]
B
Jonathan Taylor or Rico Dowdle.
- [108:50]
A
Oh man, that's tough.
- [108:51]
C
My guy, my guy, my guy.
- [108:53]
B
What do you. You're in the streets, man.
- [108:56]
A
Yeah.
- [108:56]
C
What do you.
- [108:56]
B
Come on.
- [108:57]
A
I'm going to lean. Jonathan Taylor.
- [108:59]
C
Yeah.
- [109:00]
A
Just because of the matchup.
- [109:04]
B
Teterom McMillan scored again last week, saving the week. He scored in two straight. He's on pace for about 80 and 1107, I think. Tetaroa, you. You just play him.
- [109:13]
A
Yeah, absolutely.
- [109:14]
C
Did you know now he hasn't had a bye week. Okay, so that does factor in that Tedro McMillan is a top 10 fantasy wide receiver on the year.
- [109:23]
A
He's wide receiver?
- [109:24]
B
No, no. Bye week.
- [109:25]
C
Correct.
- [109:26]
B
But just what's his points per game? I Bet he's about 18, 19, 11.4. Yeah, well, no, no, I meant rank. Sorry, sorry. Jason gave me the points for game number. Really bad guess. I meant where did he rank compared to. Because you said he was 10 or nine on the season. I'm just curious if somebody has that.
- [109:46]
C
I'll figure that out.
- [109:47]
A
He's 18.
- [109:48]
B
Yeah. That's how he. There you go. That's how he feels. And that's great. That's fine.
- [109:52]
C
Is that some.
- [109:52]
A
Ahead of Rome, Ahead of Roma. Dunes a. Gosh darn it.
- [109:56]
B
It's not amazing. It's good. It's. You didn't let me down as a rookie, but your top 10 pick, like I could see being a little disappointed. I think the hype is.
- [110:07]
A
You want to know what I love about it? We haven't finished this season and he's going to finish really strong. I mean, well, if they give Rico.
- [110:14]
B
Six carries a week, he really will.
- [110:15]
A
Yeah. I'm thrilled to start Tetaroa rest of season and I do think he's going to be special down the stretch.
- [110:23]
B
Puka Devante. Play them, Kyron, play them. It's not hard. The Stafford decision also, you can play him. It's a ma. It's looking like a magical year. They are by far the favorites to reach a Super bowl in terms of the Vegas odds.
- [110:38]
A
They have the best combination in the league right now of offense and defense. They're.
- [110:43]
B
Yes.
- [110:44]
A
They just. They don't have a weakness on either side of the ball. They can run the ball, they could pass.
- [110:48]
B
You can look at Philly and Kansas City and they've got great defenses and you're like, well, their offenses are okay.
- [110:52]
A
Right?
- [110:53]
B
This is like a cruising offense. Minnesota's 4 and 7, the Seahawks 8 and 3. This should be interesting. Seattle minus 11 and a half over under is 41 and a half. And the Vikings are just. Their season's done. It's done. It's very, very done.
- [111:11]
C
Yeah.
- [111:12]
B
So what does that mean for the fantasy production in the playoffs? We had talked at the trade deadline time about the amazing schedule for Jefferson. This is why I think it's devastating that he's got the concussion. Now, maybe missing the Seattle game in Seattle is okay, but beyond that, you better line up JJ McCarthy for four straight. Five straight weeks and cook with the. Or you're be cooking at an hour.
- [111:37]
C
The implied total for Minnesota at 15.
- [111:40]
B
Is not 15 points.
- [111:43]
C
Yeah, there's not a lot of faith coming in here for the other quarterback.
- [111:47]
B
Jefferson had the lowest line he's ever had in any sports book. Last week. Oh, it was like 69 yards. Yeah, it is 62 this week, which is his new all time low. The switch to Brosmer not encouraging when you're not at home and you're playing Seattle in Seattle it is. It's really hard to start any Vikings with any confidence this week, including JJ.
- [112:07]
A
For me, from Aaron Jones to Devin Neal.
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B
Because of just how overwhelming this feels.
- [112:15]
A
Yeah, the matchup, the projected point total, it's not a good look for Minnesota right now. It hard to imagine. I mean, unless Max Brosmer comes in here and just really surprises and you go, oh, okay, there's a quarterback competition. But keep in mind, when J.J. mcCarthy was not active, Carson Wentz was borderline dead. Couldn't move or use physically. Yes. The left half of his body.
- [112:44]
C
He already had the injury to which.
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A
He then immediately afterwards, you know, had seasoning surgery. And they're like, yeah, you got it, Carson. We can't go to bronze. You got to get back out there, Carson. So I, you know, I don't think they were sitting there going, we got something special back here.
- [113:01]
B
It seems like because of the way the game script is. 26.5 implied point total on that low over, under, like Kenneth Walker is really in play again.
- [113:10]
C
Kenneth Walker unfortunately has not translated to really special production.
- [113:17]
B
But bro, I'm pretty happy.
- [113:19]
C
Well, I mean, just, yeah, double digits. You had a top 12 weeks.
- [113:23]
B
Let's go.
- [113:23]
C
You had a top 12 against the Rams.
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B
Six and a half a carry last week.
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A
They did it again though, last week.
- [113:28]
C
Yes. And that's what I was going to bring up is the snaps and the opportunities. They have really shifted to Walker.
- [113:36]
B
They did give him chances. I mean, they gave him red zone opportunities last week. He had three attempts inside the red zone.
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A
Yeah, he had one inside the 10.
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B
He had one inside the five.
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A
Yeah. But he did have drive where he got him down there and then they switched to Sharps and Sharps got in.
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B
Yep. No, it's. That's.
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C
Yeah, yeah. I mean, Walker is. I love Walker is a good play, but are you playing Charbs? Like, are you going to chase.
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B
No.
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C
The touchdowns? I'm not okay.
- [114:04]
B
I think the workload, seeing him out there so much. I mean, six carries for Charbs. You are. You are playing for one carry.
- [114:11]
C
Yeah, you are.
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B
What?
- [114:12]
C
I'm just saying in this matchup where Seattle is at home favored by 11 and a half points.
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B
Yeah. I'd lean more.
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A
You would imagine. Yeah.
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C
I would walk over. Yeah.
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A
You would imagine that. There's a good chance Sharps could get a touchdown.
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B
Manangai or Charbs.
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A
Charbs. Charbs or Jordan Mason. Charbs.
- [114:32]
C
Yeah.
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B
And all that is non guy. More. I couldn't say his name right. But I like him more. Jsn. I would play him.
- [114:41]
C
Yeah.
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B
This week is a tough decision.
- [114:43]
A
Mashed potatoes like that. Yes, sir.
- [114:45]
B
Yeah. And Jefferson, I think that's the biggest. I'm going to go look at the start sit tool right now.
- [114:50]
C
Yes.
- [114:50]
B
With Jefferson and I'm going to see his name. I just imagine people are going to be worried about Jefferson. I mean, are you?
- [114:58]
C
I got one in my 24 right now.
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A
I've got one for you. Without looking at what people are asking, but. Justin Jefferson or Michael Wilson?
- [115:09]
C
Yeah.
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B
Let me go to this camera here while I. Yeah.
- [115:11]
C
What are we doing here, Turkeys?
- [115:13]
B
What would you guys do?
- [115:14]
C
Get on the record.
- [115:15]
B
What would the Turkeys do in that one? Michael Wilson. Justin Jefferson. There's zero chance I could sit Justin Jefferson for Michael Wilson, personally.
- [115:23]
C
Do you know how to use a mic? Josh?
- [115:25]
B
He's trying.
- [115:26]
C
Josh's microphone doesn't work.
- [115:27]
A
Oh, fantastic. Good work, producers. And I mean that. Good work in muting Josh. That's. That's what we always dreamed of.
- [115:34]
B
Yeah, it'd be great if we reversed his mute button so every time he tries to talk, he's muting himself.
- [115:41]
A
You're doing it to yourself.
- [115:42]
C
Come on. Come on, Max.
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A
You got it.
- [115:45]
B
No, I don't want to play Jefferson in this game. And I would have the guts to sit him. I'd play a Buca.
- [115:50]
C
We could move the camera back.
- [115:51]
B
Oh, no, we can't. Oh, yeah, there we go.
- [115:54]
A
Wondale or Justin Jefferson?
- [115:57]
B
Playing Wondale.
- [115:59]
A
Troy Franklin or Justin Jefferson?
- [116:01]
B
Well, I'll play Jefferson there. Christian Watson, Jefferson. Okay, no more further questions. We'll take a break. More matchups. And don't forget, we have our fantasy face off as well. The holidays are back at Starbucks, so share the season with a peppermint mocha, Starbucks signature espresso, velvety mocha and cool peppermint notes topped with whipped cream and dark chocolate curls together is the best.
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B
How many games do we have left? I don't know how many games?
- [117:11]
C
Just make it stop.
- [117:13]
B
Buffalo 7 and 4. Pittsburgh 3 games.
- [117:16]
C
Okay, we could do this.
- [117:17]
B
Oh, is that it?
- [117:18]
C
We can do it.
- [117:19]
B
The Vegas line. Buffalo minus three and a half over under.
- [117:22]
A
Quick nap, guys.
- [117:23]
B
Are you running out of gas?
- [117:25]
A
I have been out for a while.
- [117:29]
B
Get this guy a smelling salt. We have a smelling salt over there.
- [117:32]
A
Throw me the salts.
- [117:34]
B
Oh, wait, that's all.
- [117:35]
A
That's a whole. Oh, oh, oh.
- [117:37]
B
Definitely hit me in the face. Here you go, Jay. Let me get you to get you through the last three. Mike, you want one?
- [117:42]
C
No, I don't.
- [117:43]
B
Mike's shaking his head. We'll share, Jay. I'll share. You take the first sniff.
- [117:49]
C
I know, I know. They don't. They don't make me feel energized.
- [117:54]
B
I love that smell, though.
- [117:55]
C
They just make my nose and my eyes burn.
- [117:58]
B
All right, I'm back, baby. Buffalo seven and four, Pittsburgh six and five. Buffalo minus three and a half over under 47 and a half and. Okay, well, they signed. Who'd they sign at wide receiver? Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks.
- [118:15]
C
Yeah.
- [118:15]
B
That'll fix it.
- [118:16]
A
Our problems are solved.
- [118:17]
C
What is Buffalo doing?
- [118:19]
B
If you could smelt down a bunch of receivers into one, right. Like a metal.
- [118:26]
C
Sure.
- [118:27]
B
You get. I just making sure you smell.
- [118:30]
C
Yeah, you dealt it.
- [118:32]
A
I swish.
- [118:33]
B
So I just feel like they need. They might need like to not waste Josh Allen's prime is all I'm saying. You play Allen. This is an interesting game. You play James Cook. Of course. And then I'm starting to feel more confident around Khalil Shakir right now. Ever since we saw. I mean, last week was big. It wasn't great the weeks before, but from a target share perspective. Like over the last five weeks, he's on pace for 125 targets. And so if I get 125 Josh Allen target pace, I'm okay with that. I don't know if you guys are like Shakir or Justin Jefferson. Apparently that's the question.
- [119:08]
C
I'd play Jefferson does. Does Brandon Beans. Television only. Are you still smelling them?
- [119:15]
B
Sorry, I wanted one more whiff. There you go, Jake.
- [119:17]
A
Yeah, my left nostril is way too open. I gotta open that right one now.
- [119:21]
C
Does Brandon Beans Television only play games, Like, NFL games from, like, five years ago? Is that why they get those wide receivers?
- [119:29]
B
Yeah, he only. He only watches Brandon Cooks.
- [119:33]
C
He's doing great work.
- [119:35]
B
They're just adding Gabe Davis coming back.
- [119:37]
C
And, I mean, it's weird.
- [119:39]
B
Yeah. So. So I don't. I don't think it's complicated, though. Start sit wise on Buffalo side, right? It's Allen and it's Cook and then Shakira in an emergency. Yeah. Coleman. Is he going to come back?
- [119:49]
A
We don't even know if he's playing ball, but if he is, he's not going to be in my lineup.
- [119:53]
B
Oh, I forgot we have mailbag, too.
- [119:55]
C
Yeah, yeah, we'll get.
- [119:56]
B
We'll get a triple gobble Mailbag.
- [119:58]
A
Oh, yes.
- [120:00]
B
Yeah, we will. You remind me we had mailbag. We're going to do that. All right. Kenneth Gainwell got Mike start of the week. The little pat on the butt, Jaylen Warren is, of course, in your lineup too, right? Yeah, yeah.
- [120:09]
C
Both of them are in play, and.
- [120:10]
B
Then we expect to see Aaron Rodgers back out there. But does it mean much? I don't know if this offense really functions much differently. I don't think you look at Metcalf and go, oh, thank goodness. Thank goodness he's got Rogers instead of Rudolph.
- [120:23]
A
No, but you still. If that was Rudolph, is it Metcalf or Justin Jefferson?
- [120:29]
B
Oh.
- [120:33]
A
Jefferson. I would go Justin Jefferson.
- [120:34]
C
Yeah, yeah. Eight targets, two weeks in a row for D.K. metcalf. Eight targets, 2 weeks in a row turns that into 5 for 49 and 5 for 22.
- [120:44]
B
Can we call him the Candyman? Because he only eats candy for food? I mean, it makes me feel better.
- [120:49]
C
I feel like that's the Candy man or a Dunez. It's killing him. The Candyman's too good.
- [120:56]
B
The Candyman can.
- [120:58]
A
Yeah. On the podcast yesterday, we basically said he was. He was turkey. He's like the big, beautiful, special thing that's really overrated.
- [121:07]
B
Yeah. I don't know why people feel like they have to attack turkey just because they like ham. No, no, no.
- [121:11]
A
I'm not attacking. I still like turkey.
- [121:14]
B
Overrated.
- [121:15]
A
Just. Yes, he's very overrated. DK Metcalf got a $150 million deal. He is not a true wide receiver.
- [121:21]
B
A big part of turkey is the dressing.
- [121:24]
A
Yeah.
- [121:25]
B
Like putting the gravy on it. I mean.
- [121:26]
A
Yeah. So putting on a good team.
- [121:28]
B
His gravy is Aaron Rodgers.
- [121:31]
A
The gravy's going bad. Gravy's a little old.
- [121:34]
B
That's like some gravy's been sitting out for 40 years. Yes. So Metcalf is a scary start. I mean, Shakir or Metcalf in the same game? I'll probably go Metcalf. Jacoby. Myers against Tennessee. Metcalf.
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A
Metcalf.
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B
Okay.
- [121:49]
C
That one's closer than it should be.
- [121:51]
A
I'd go Shakira over Myers.
- [121:53]
C
Okay.
- [121:55]
B
Any other questions from this game? Any other thoughts? We've talked through all the main players.
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A
No.
- [122:00]
C
The Bills are good against tight ends.
- [122:02]
B
You want to know why he's.
- [122:03]
A
Which is actually good news for DK Metcalf? Because. Okay, when it comes to John. John. Ooh. And Pat Friarmuth and big old Darnell Washington. And more than any of those three, Arthur.
- [122:17]
B
Remember Darnell Anderson?
- [122:18]
A
Oh, yeah. Arthur Smith wanting to get his tight ends involved. This is not the matchup where he's going to be able to do that. So DK Metcalf should have a few more targets going his way.
- [122:26]
B
Shout out to Ben Fennell for this stat, but this will. This is why Metcalf sucks. Steelers did not complete a pass of 20 air yards in the month of November.
- [122:37]
A
But the month of November is four games. It's almost over.
- [122:41]
B
Zero completed passes of 20 more yards. Winston did it five times against Detroit by himself.
- [122:47]
A
Did he catch one?
- [122:47]
B
James should be. Jameis should be everybody's quarterback.
- [122:50]
A
I agree. We talked about this.
- [122:52]
B
The NFL is so fun.
- [122:53]
A
James should be the backup to all.
- [122:56]
B
Games, to all teams.
- [122:57]
A
And if any starter gets injured, he comes in and goes go deep. Yeah.
- [123:02]
B
The Las Vegas Raiders at 2 and 9 take on the 7 and 4 Chargers. The Vegas line LA -10 over under 41 and a half. The Chargers, correct me if I'm wrong, their last game was a spanking Jacksonville. Then they go into the bi week. So not that all the Raiders games aren't a spanking for the Raiders, but they're heavy favorites here. 10 point favorites. That implied point total for The Raiders is 15 points. That's wild. That's. That's low.
- [123:30]
A
That is a lot more than the Raiders scored against these chargers in week two when they put up nine.
- [123:35]
B
Yeah. 20 to nine game in week two. Geno was once again hot farts in that one. 56% completion percentage, three picks, bad passer rating. And it's not getting better for Las Vegas. They're just firing coordinators until Pete runs out of them and then he runs out of town. Justin Herbert Though, like, are you revitalized with your confidence with the Chargers because of the matchup? Even though they were so disappointing?
- [123:58]
A
The matchup along with the buy, I think they really needed the bye week. I'm hopeful that Omarion Hampton comes back, which will open things up. Their issue is they've lost their two left tackles. I mean, their left tackle and then their right tackle who became their left tackle. And their offensive line has been a real problem for Herbert. Max Crosby will be an issue, but he's really the only one. The Raiders don't have a great pass rush despite having Max Crosby, so I expect better things from Herbert. I'm okay with starting pretty much all of the Chargers. Not all of them are going to hit, but yeah, I mean, it would go in the order of Lad. I'm thinking it would go lad. Huge. Gadsden Keenan, I'm fine with.
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C
I'm okay with that.
- [124:47]
B
That order. It's.
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C
Yeah, it's lad at the top.
- [124:49]
B
Yoshi Voss. Where does he fit into that order though? Like somebody like Andre Yoshi, I think.
- [124:53]
A
Probably above Quentin, ahead of huge. Yeah.
- [124:56]
B
So then it's lad.
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A
Yoshi Yoshi. Yeah.
- [124:59]
B
So, yeah, I want to see Hampton back out there. I want to see the split. Like, I wouldn't. Let me put this out there. If Hampton plays, don't freak out if this game isn't the game.
- [125:10]
C
Right, Right.
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B
For Omari and Hampton, I think you could see a lot of Kamani Vidal as well. He's. He's really earned the respect of the coaching staff. And you know, Hampton, they could ease him back in to the situation is all I'm saying. Ashton Genti hurt his ankle. We think he's okay. This is Wednesday, right? We're early on the week, but I mean, you don't. Other than Bowers, do you?
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C
No, I mean Bowers and Genti. Yep, that is it.
- [125:36]
B
And you will not get plenty. Probably.
- [125:40]
C
Probably not.
- [125:42]
B
Sunday Night Football Denver. Do we have a Monday night game too? Oh, they straight up lied to us when we were. When they said three games left, it was four. And I'm looking. I'm looking at the Deuces over there and they're nodding. It was four.
- [125:54]
A
I realized it matchups ago. Hot in that costume youe know what.
- [126:00]
B
Turn your masks around. I don't want you to be able to see. Oh, that toy. That actually works.
- [126:06]
A
Yep. Oh, it does work.
- [126:07]
B
Turn them around rest of the show.
- [126:09]
A
There you go.
- [126:10]
B
That's it. Oh, my goodness. Triple gobble over there. Let's move on. We've got 100 games left. Denver nine and two, Washington three and eight. Denver six and a half point favorites over unders 43 and a half. Weird game to me. Both teams coming off the buy Commanders have lost six in a row. Broncos have won eight in a row. There is a non zero chance that Jaden's back in this game.
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C
I don't think it's very high.
- [126:38]
B
I don't think it's very high either.
- [126:39]
C
I'm still going under 10%.
- [126:40]
B
They're at home in Denver. I don't know what you are on offense. I know what you are on defense and I love you. You're a great defense.
- [126:47]
C
Defense is elite. Their offense is going to be just fine in this week.
- [126:51]
B
Yeah, you don't, you don't think Dan Quinn can get this thing going on defense coming out of the bye week against Denver?
- [126:56]
C
I do not find the weaknesses in.
- [126:59]
B
This offense and shut them down because.
- [127:02]
C
Despite any weaknesses, the, the commanders can overcome that with their lack of personality and let their weaknesses become their strength.
- [127:10]
A
Yeah, if you've got Mariota, it hurts their defense as well. That's going to set, you know, the Broncos up for potential shorter fields or more time of possession. So, yeah, I do. I think we all like the Broncos offense. We're all very, very hopeful that the Broncos can come here to the Washington commanders who are 30th against quarterbacks, 30th against wide receivers, 27th against running backs and put up an offensive performance. We are all extremely hopeful.
- [127:39]
B
But also in the back of your.
- [127:40]
A
Head, in the back of your head, you're going. They've had these opportunities before Vegas and the Vegas game. You come and just fall on your face. So it is scary. I believe in RJ Harvey. I think he's going to be outstanding this week.
- [127:55]
C
RJ Harvey Dent.
- [127:56]
A
Yes. I believe in RJ Harvey dental. And I am. I believe that he will be a big cog to this engine running.
- [128:08]
B
Well, Bo Nix is your start of the week at quarterback, Mike. I agree with that. Take there now. Are you playing Franklin over Sutton?
- [128:14]
C
No.
- [128:17]
B
Is that a. Was that some sort of train? It was a. Nah.
- [128:25]
C
I'd play Sutton.
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B
Jason.
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A
I would play Sutton.
- [128:30]
B
Sutton or Bucky Irving.
- [128:32]
A
Sutton or Bucky Irving?
- [128:33]
B
It's a top question.
- [128:34]
A
Oh, I would play Bucky Irving if he's.
- [128:35]
B
Yeah, it's like a top.
- [128:36]
C
Would you just write to it?
- [128:38]
A
Right to it.
- [128:38]
C
I think I'd play Sutton straight to.
- [128:41]
B
Starting Pity City or Troy Franklin.
- [128:46]
A
Oh, man. This week.
- [128:50]
B
I got two buttons.
- [128:51]
C
I can push Pittman against Houston, I.
- [128:53]
B
Got a good pity or a bad pity? Which one you want?
- [128:55]
C
I'll push this one.
- [128:57]
B
Okay. All right. All right. On the other side, Debo, he's kind of had a couple of nice weeks in a row, right? Wide receiver, 28 and 10. I would feel better with Jaden back out there. And I'm still on the Chris Rodriguez side at running back right now for Washington. He was the most impressive runner of the year.
- [129:19]
C
Chris Rodriguez. I think we mentioned it on the way of, like, I want to pick him up. I don't really want to play him this week.
- [129:26]
B
We do have breaking news. Dan Quinn saying that Terry McLaren will practice this week. Oh, so this is where I'm forgot about him. This is where I'm like, if Jaden's back out there with Terry, like, you got to remember they have not had that this year.
- [129:36]
C
Right?
- [129:37]
B
Any. Any, like, lack of. I feel like the Jaden Daniels excitement wore down. It's been injuries, but it's also. You have had no Terry all year, so it should look worse, right? It should be more of a struggle. So that would be nice. That would make this a much more exciting game. So Jayden Daniels is returning to practice, but has not been cleared for contact yet, and it is unlikely that he's going to play. So it'll probably be Mariota with. But he's been good. Mario's been.
- [130:07]
A
Mariota is pretty good. Mariota is a decent streamer. With Jaden Daniels gone this week, it's probably the week you want to avoid it. The Broncos defense has just been so.
- [130:17]
B
Outstanding, let me tell you. Last three games for Mariota, 213 passing yards, okay? Against Kansas City, he also threw for 213 against Detroit.
- [130:26]
C
Oh, no, wait.
- [130:27]
B
But then against Miami, he threw for 213.
- [130:29]
C
No way.
- [130:29]
A
No, he didn't. Yes, he did. He's 213 and he stops. The governor is on there. It's like, I hit him. I gotta run now, guys.
- [130:37]
B
But 49 rushing yards last game, I mean, that is a. That was a quarterback nine finish. I think Mariota, you don't probably do it in this one against Denver, but you got to know that he can provide a little bit for the offense, which gets him in the red zone. Get some Chris Rodriguez opportunities. Debo, he's throwing for a touchdown in every start.
- [130:51]
A
So Minnesota next week, the Giants after that. Depending on Jaden Daniels.
- [130:55]
B
Yeah, yeah. Jaden could have a little bit of an impact on the old fantasy playoffs, as could McLaurin. Who knows? Monday Night Football, this is the last one right before the fancy face off. Monday Night football. The Giants 2 and 10. The Patriots 10 and 2. New England 7 point favorites over unders 46 and a half.
- [131:13]
C
It's all right. Despite the records, this is actually an exciting game.
- [131:17]
B
Yeah, I'd be looking forward, I mean, to Jackson Dart being back out there against Drake May.
- [131:22]
C
Yeah.
- [131:23]
A
Oh, that'll be exactly.
- [131:25]
B
That's awesome.
- [131:26]
A
And the best part is if Jackson Dart doesn't play. Still awesome.
- [131:31]
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [131:32]
A
James Winston.
- [131:33]
B
Oh, yeah. That's so much more exciting. Why don't teams use him? Yeah, because he's crazy. Jackson Dart, Drake May though both fantasy options this week that you should play if they're out there. You want to get word on the concussion protocol situation for Jackson Dart.
- [131:49]
C
He's practiced. He's listed as a full practice. He's still technically in the concussion protocol. But you got to think if you're playing Monday night and you're practicing in full on Wednesday, you are trending in the right direction.
- [132:01]
B
Tyrone tracy in his two starts, 19 and 20 opportunities, running back, 14 and 13. I have watched these games with an eye on his performance and I actually think he has looked pretty good.
- [132:13]
C
I agree.
- [132:14]
B
Pretty tough running. I kind of think he's all right.
- [132:18]
A
Yeah, the running game. And the thing is, is it's still a split. Like Singingletary has had 16 and 14 rushing attempts in the last two weeks at the same time that Tracy's getting all that work. They've been in these games and so that's the question is like, are they going to be in this game as well?
- [132:33]
B
I don't know.
- [132:33]
A
They seem like they're similar to the Dolphins. There's a team that is not.
- [132:40]
B
They're not 2 and 10 in effort.
- [132:42]
A
Right. They're actually going out there and giving it the old college try.
- [132:46]
B
You know, regular season MVP right now, Stafford, the heavy favorite. Drake May right behind. And it's not. Nobody else is particularly close in this moment.
- [132:55]
C
Makes sense.
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Travion Henderson, you know, going up against the Giants defense, I was very close to making Henderson my start of the week.
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Yeah, I would love to start Henderson.
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B
I did it last week, so I wasn't going to do it again. But I don't have as much confidence in Diggs right now. Obviously, last week they took advantage of Cincinnati not knowing that tight ends play. But cash on booty's back. The snaps will be near 100% this week. I think case on booty is close to my touchdown guarantee too. I think three pack, why don't you make A three pack.
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C
Well, you gave.
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B
Oh. Because I said Andrews might have a shot at one.
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C
Yeah. Andrew's worthy.
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Those two are just, like, high odds. There's only one guarantee, and it's worthy. Oh, I'm just saying Booty is up there on players that I have confidence in this week. Like, I'd play. I'd play K. Sean Booty in this game.
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Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. You've got a team at home favored against a matchup that's not. And Booty's had a lot of good games this. This year. We were worried with him coming back off of the injury. How long will it take to get involved? And he had 80% snaps last week. So I think you. Whatever you thought he was before the injury is what you should look at him as, you know, going forward.
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B
And then I look, Wondale, you can play Wandale Robinson. And I think you might be even more excited if it's Winston versus Dart.
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Yeah.
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B
Because Dart's going to run the football a little bit more, and I think Winston's going to go right back to the well. And the well is Wanda.
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If Winston is starting, Wandale becomes. I feel like a borderline must start.
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B
So you agree with that?
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C
Yeah.
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B
Anybody else in this game? Hunter Henry. Are you just kind of letting that be a blip on the radar? And are you playing him?
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A
I mean, there is one league I'm playing, but it's. I'm not. He is not someone that I would recommend to play this week.
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B
He went seven consecutive weeks since his last top 10 performance before he gave you this past week.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Henry's a. He's a solid matchup play, but this isn't the matchup.
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B
Okay. All right. We. We did it. We just got through all the matchups, and the show's not even over.
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C
No, no, we're not done yet.
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B
Two more segments.
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C
We thought we were done.
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B
When do we announce the hashtag?
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Whenever we want. Whenever we want.
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C
You want to give it right now?
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B
I feel like. I feel like we should.
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C
Okay. Because you don't want people to just go to the end of the show.
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B
I feel like it's between huge mungus, boom boom and triple gobble. And my vote is triple gobble.
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C
Oh, triple gobble.
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B
Gobble, I think Hashtag triple gobble.
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A
Yeah. And for those that don't know, there's only one P in triple.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Yeah. Well, how many. How many Bs are in gobble? There's two. Sure there are.
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B
You're a 1B gobble.
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A
Yeah. It's a troopable gobble goble.
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B
You don't have vowels work, do you?
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A
It was.
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B
You never learned how vowels were Double, dribble, double, triple. Yeah, Nick Nicola Jokic leads the league in triple gobbles. That's what it is for me. All right, there's your hashtag triple gobble. Go on to X, tag us at the FF Ballers and let us know you got through the entire show. Hashtag, triple gobble. And there. There they are. There's the triple gobble right over there. And if I knew their mics were working, I'd make them do it again. Now, is that a strategic mic break so you don't have to do the mailbag in a minute?
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C
Nah, I fixed it.
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B
Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, we've got the. The Fantasy Face off first.
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A
Fantasy Face off presented by prize picks.
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B
All right, well, let's jump right into it. We have already put the shame on the deucer, so. So let's get into it. Quarterback position. Last week, I think Jason, you and I both went 3 for 4 on the pick, correct? I don't know. You missed the Diggs one. Is that what it was?
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It's also correct.
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And then I missed the Higgins one. This week at quarterback, I'm going to start with Jordan Love, and I am going to take more than ten and a half rushing.
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A
Oh, you go back to the.
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B
Well, dad Gummet, that is my favorite.
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Oh, I should have done it.
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B
Favorite play of the entire year has been the rushing yards for Jordan Love. It has worked so many times.
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A
Oh, we've been. We've. I.
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B
And it's. It's the Detroit game.
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A
I do have Jordan Love. 10 and a half rush.
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B
I was hoping I'd be alone on that one. I know Al Borland loves it.
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A
That's. That's wonderful. So all of our. All of our picks this week are on Thursday, Thanksgiving. So we are doing a triple gobble here. My quarterback is your start of the week. Dak Prescott. Prescott.
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B
Prescott.
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Prescott. Dak Prescott at home against Kansas. I'm taking his completion percentage. His projection is a Very nice 69.8.
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C
Okay.
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A
And I am going to say less than okay.
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B
I wasn't sure which way you'd go.
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A
That's a high bar against Kansas City. He hasn't really been throwing for 70% most weeks, so that'll be fun to watch.
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C
Every.
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Every pass.
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I know the completion percentage. If you haven't played with one of the completion percentages. It's so fun. You're so invested on every single Pass. You're like, oh, yes. It got called back to penalty.
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B
All right, Mike, your Price picks projection.
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C
I'm going with another one of the sneaky prize picks. Fun ones. I got Jordan Love.
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B
Oh, you got Jordan Love.
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C
Completions in his first 10 pass attempts.
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B
Okay, how many?
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I'm going to guess the line.
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B
Six.
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I'm going to guess. Projection is.
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The projection is six and a half.
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A
Seven and a half.
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C
Six and a half.
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A
Okay.
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And you took the.
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C
I'm going more.
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B
Okay.
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C
I'm going more.
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B
Okay.
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A
My running back screen game going with Jaden Reed. Maybe.
- [138:35]
B
Well, this is cool. Yeah. Yeah. My. My lineup has two running backs in it.
- [138:42]
C
Perfect.
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A
Oh, boy. But at least you got four for players. Give me a moment.
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B
Yeah. Unless you want to consider one of these to be. Look, look. My running back.
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C
Who's running back are you taking?
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B
My running back is going to be Keaton Mitchell, my Green Goblin. More than nine and a half rushing yards.
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A
That's one attempt. That's one attempt, brother.
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B
And I've got plenty of time to grab a tight end here.
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A
Okay, that's funny.
- [139:13]
B
Nobody flagged this.
- [139:14]
A
I was going to say we send these over ahead of time, so why not? Team effort.
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B
Why not?
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A
It's on me.
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B
My bad.
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A
My run. I'll share the. It's probably on me too, a little bit with Andy. My running back is Derek Henry against Cincinnati. His projection is 17 and a half rushing attempts. He is annihilating that every week. I think that they are going to win with defense. Lamar is not the mobile Lamar that we're used to right now. So I'm taking more than 17 and a half from Derek Henry.
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C
I have Javante Williams. The projection is two and a half receiving targets.
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A
Is this a Goblin?
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C
Nope. Oh, no. I was very happy. I'm taking the more.
- [140:00]
A
That projection feels very low.
- [140:03]
B
I just realized we probably sent. We probably sent all this over to Price Picks already too. No, not that one.
- [140:10]
A
We only send one of each.
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B
Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
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A
Oh, that is worth mentioning on Price picks. They now have the. Are we in? Yeah, I think so. You can scroll down on the homepage and find like one.
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B
What do they call that?
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C
Al?
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A
Yeah. Player pack.
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B
Player pack from the ballers. Okay. My wide receiver, maybe unsurprisingly because of my touchdown guarantee, I'm going Xavier worthy. More than 36 and a half receiving yards.
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C
Okay.
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A
All right.
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C
This is a good find.
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A
Real quick.
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B
And I do have a tight end.
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A
My wide receiver is my Green Goblin. I'm Taking Jamar Chase at 59 and a half receiving yards.
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C
Beautiful.
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A
I'll go more net.
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C
Good work.
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B
Okay, layup.
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C
I got Christian Watson, Jason's start of the week. His projection for the Thursday night or Thursday morning matchup. 48 and a half receiving yards. I will take the more and this.
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B
One I've thought about all week long and definitely, definitely convicted about it. I'll go Mark Andrews More than 0.5 touchdowns and I do get it on receiving or rushing, which.
- [141:17]
A
Oh, that's important.
- [141:19]
B
He could take a little.
- [141:20]
A
Speaking of rushing, my tight end is Mark Andrews more than 0.5 rushing yards. He is being used as one tush push as the tush push guy right now without Lamar. So I just need an Andrew. I just need a fourth and one.
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C
Yes.
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A
Give me a four. That's a one for the Baltimore Ravens.
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B
Little Thanksgiving fun, my green goblin.
- [141:41]
C
Hopefully it's a layup. It's Travis Kelsey, 39 and and half receiving yards.
- [141:45]
A
Oh, that feels more easy.
- [141:47]
B
All right. Every week we've been building lineups based on projections on the prize pick app. We all do. Quarterback, one running back, one wide receiver, one tight end.
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C
Usually.
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B
Usually. And the reason we have doosers dressed up as turkeys this fine Thanksgiving episode is because they lost last week. So that was Fantasy Face off presented by prize picks. Play along with us on Thanksgiving and check out our fantasy footballers player pack live on the app right now. Use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups. When you play $5. Well, it's triple turkeys, triple gobble time.
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A
Mailbag presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.
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C
I wondered who was going to do the.
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B
Yeah, we got some gobbles in there. Let's jump into the mailbag here. We got a voicemail question to kick it off. If you have a question, you can go to the website the fantasy footballers.com or dial our voicemail hotline. 302464 TFFB. That's 302464 TFFB. First question here. Voicemail looks like it's about George Kittle. Happy Thanksgiving, ballers. Quick question.
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A
Do I sit Kittle for Gadsden? Little concerned about Kittle playing on the road in Cleveland in bag winter weather.
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B
Thanks. Nope, nope.
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C
I understand it being afraid of the weather, but if Purdy is in, then I'm not going to with Kittle.
- [143:18]
B
You'll win.
- [143:18]
C
I will. Yeah. I was. I will not settle the kiddo.
- [143:21]
A
Kittle's been. Kittle's been amazing.
- [143:24]
B
I was going. This show is going, going a While.
- [143:27]
A
Fumes Gadston doesn't have. I realize the weather is much better, but Gadsden, the Raiders is a good matchup for the Chargers, but not necessarily for tight ends. They're top five against Titans.
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B
Yeah. Next question. It's a Wondale question. Chad in Virginia. I can't believe I'm asking this, asking this, but Metcalf versus Buffalo or Wandale versus Wow, New England.
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I am going to go Wandale.
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C
I think it's Wandale.
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A
I think it's Wandale and it's full PPR.
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C
Is there anything else about DK's injury? Because I mean he tweaked the. I think his ankle. He came back in the game but I wasn't sure if maybe that was. I haven't seen enough going to hinder him yet.
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B
No, but you don't. You just don't want to mess around with any variables with the Candyman. Matt in West Virginia, non people, it's.
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C
Way better than dk. Mike Calf that our website still has on.
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A
Oh yeah.
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B
Wait, that's a nickname for him.
- [144:25]
A
Oh yeah, Mike Calf.
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B
I don't even remember what that's from in non ppr. Javante Williams or RJ Harvey? Javante Williams or RJ Harvey?
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I said this earlier. I gave him as one of the examples. I would play RJ Harvey over Javante this week.
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C
I They're very, very close in my rankings as of right now. Javante's at 12, Harvey at 15. I don't mind though, going with Harvey.
- [144:51]
A
Yeah, they are close. I've got Javante just two spots behind Harvey in my rankings.
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B
Okay. Jerry in Long Island, New York, Hay Ballers, huge fan of the show with Lamar banged up and honestly playing like doo doo for fantasy for me of late. Am I crazy to bench him for Stafford? Now? That is a good question.
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A
It is. Because when you say am I crazy to bench him? I want to say yes. You don't bench Lamar Jackson the highest overrunner of the year against Cincinnati on Thanksgiving. You want that? But Stafford has been, you know, a revelation. He's top five quarterback right now against Carolina. If I had both of them, I'm not going to watch Lamar Jackson on Thanksgiving without him in my lineup. It's close and I think you, you have full permission to go to Stafford. That's not a crazy decision. I would, I would be going Lamar. What about you guys?
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C
It's. I'm looking at my opponent. How many points do I need? Safe points.
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A
The crazy thing is what you're saying.
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C
Is as safe as Stafford Yes, I am.
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B
This question is a little bit. Maybe not the one to end with, but we're going to do it anyway. Drew, in the United States of America.
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C
Oh, punch your.
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B
Why are you guys trying to act younger than you are?
- [146:05]
A
What?
- [146:06]
B
Your dislike for cats has really turned me off to the show. All three hosts should get. This should get tested for early dementia, especially Jason.
- [146:13]
A
Yeah, mine's not early dementia. I was born this way.
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C
Hold on. Young people like. Wait, old people like cats?
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B
Nobody likes cats. I think that's my understanding.
- [146:26]
C
There's cats people.
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A
Kittens are great.
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C
I just don't know what the correlation.
- [146:31]
A
Between being young and hating cats. So young people hate cats is what this guy's saying.
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B
Is that what that is? Young people hate cats?
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C
I don't know. I'm saying old people, Drew.
- [146:44]
B
Old people like cats. And that's how you have, like, the cat ladies and stuff like that.
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A
Right? That makes sense. Cat ladies are never young. Cat ladies are sad old ladies with a dozen cats.
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B
Here's a little Thanksgiving message for the world, the whole. For the United States of America and beyond.
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A
Oh, Thanksgiving's just awesome.
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B
If you like something. If you like something or you don't like something cool. Yeah, I don't have to like. Or somebody else doesn't have to like what you like.
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A
Why are you trying to act so young? With your opinions.
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B
With my opinions.
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A
Okay, stay young, everyone. Stay young.
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B
All right?
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A
Never grow up.
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B
That does it for our Gobble gobble mailbag. Right now, new users can get NFL Sunday ticket for the rest of the 2025 regular season for only 48 DOL. Offer ends December 1st. New users only. Terms and embargoes apply. No refunds, commercial use excluded.
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A
Now, don't you dare say the hashtag.
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B
Oh, don't say it again.
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A
No, luly not. Because people skip to the end.
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B
I almost. You knew I was going to.
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A
I knew it.
- [147:41]
B
That's my host.
- [147:42]
A
That's the host. I put the finger up. Not happening. You listen and you get rewarded. You skip, we skip you.
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B
Okay. All right. On that note, thank you once again for joining us on the Megalodon episode. I'll go to Deucer cam here as we sign out and say, have a wonderful Thanksgiving with the families, a wonderful break for so many of you out there, and hope you enjoy.
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A
I'm grateful for.
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B
Me, too. I'm on the way, Jack and the producers.
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C
See you soon. Goodbye.
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A
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