Fantasy Football - Midseason Review + Trade Targets, TNF Preview - Podcast for 10/29

Summary

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Fantasy Footballers Podcast: Midseason Review + Trade Targets, TNF Preview

Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Episode Overview

In this high-energy midseason special, Andy, Jason, and Mike review the fantasy football landscape at the season's halfway point, providing actionable takeaways, rest-of-season predictions, and keen trade advice. The trio also previews Thursday Night Football and highlights under-the-radar backup options that can help managers survive tricky bye weeks and injuries.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Backup Options and Waiver Reactions

[Starts ~05:05]

• Trending Waiver Drops:

  • Kirk Cousins and Joe Flacco topped drop lists due to injury or bye week fills.
  • Mike is shocked at Flacco getting dropped:

    "People dropping Joe Flacco is insanity to me." – Mike [05:50]

    • Argument: Flacco had two great games and one good game this year. Andy and Mike view him as rosterable, unless you’re super-solid at QB already.

• Underrated Pickups:

  • Brashard Smith (now valuable with Isaiah Pacheco’s MCL injury; likely out at least a week).
  • Mike on Brashard Smith:

    "He has juice... we've seen Jerick McKinnon have dominance on a small amount of touches. If [Smith] got dropped, he should be picked up." – Mike [08:06]

  • Indianapolis Colts Defense (top-3 in many formats, facing favorable matchups vs. Pittsburgh and Atlanta coming up).
  • Cleveland Browns Defense (good to stash, even though entering bye week).

• Deep Bye Week Starters:

  • Nick Chubb (described as a “gross” but logical backup option for the desperate).
  • “If I have that many guaranteed touches, something good can happen.” – Jason [11:58]

2. NFL News & Injury Updates

[Starts ~13:39]

• Quarterbacks:
  • Joe Flacco (AC joint sprain, day-to-day). Bengals owners should be nervous about skill players if Flacco misses time.

    "If you have any Cincinnati Bengals skill player, you better be lighting prayer candles." – Mike [14:20]

  • Backup: Jake Browning steps in if Flacco sits.
• Running Backs:
  • Isaiah Pacheco: MCL sprain, "week-to-week".
• Wide Receivers/Tight Ends:
  • Michael Penix likely returning for ATL, Drake London expected to practice.
  • George Pickens (DAL) contract talk: Unlikely to re-sign, likely to chase top market value.
• Other:
  • Deonte Johnson working out for the Giants ("Super desperate" move).

3. Thursday Night Football Preview: Ravens vs. Dolphins

[Starts ~18:37]

• Matchup Overview:

  • Ravens favored by 7.5, over/under 51.5.
  • “This is a juicy one, the highest [O/U] of the week.” – Jason [19:05]

• Key Fantasy Plays:

  • Must-starts: Lamar Jackson, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Waddle.
  • Zay Flowers: Solid WR2 with upside in this shootout.

• Notable Notes:

  • Both teams are last in pace; still a likely high-scoring game.
  • Dolphins’ rush defense is bad, but can surprise (recently stymied Bijan Robinson).

• Tight End Speculation:

  • Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely both viable; Lamar’s return may sway target distribution.

    "We're going to see what they might have planned coming into the season." – Andy [22:04]

• Deep Flex Consideration:

  • Ollie Gordon: Good insurance for Achane, but not enough volume to trust as starter unless Achane is out.
  • Malik Washington: Pure desperation play; raw speed but not consistent.

4. Midseason Review – Positional Leaders & Surprises

Quarterbacks

[Starts ~25:29]

• Top 5 in Points/Game:
  1. Patrick Mahomes ("Unbelievable" year)
  2. Lamar Jackson
  3. Josh Allen
  4. Jalen Hurts
  5. Drake Maye (impressively historic completion % and YPA for a rookie)
• Drake Maye Praise:

  “There’s no hole in his game right now.” – Andy [26:36]

• Bo Nix as a Rollercoaster:
  • “He can do more on the move than he can [in the pocket].” – Jason [29:02]
  • Preference: All would take Jaden Daniels, Justin Herbert, or even Dak Prescott over Nix rest-of-season.

Running Backs

[42:42]

• Top 5 in Points/Game:
  1. Jonathan Taylor (“Anti-curse,” league-winner) [33:17]
  2. Christian McCaffrey
  3. Bijan Robinson
  4. James Cook
  5. Josh Jacobs
• Trade Takes:
  • All would currently prefer Taylor over McCaffrey.

    “Jonathan Taylor, just because… nothing more fun than this.” – Jason [33:17]

• Surprising Standouts:
  • Javonte Williams: Top 10, dominating snaps.
  • Bucky Irving: Hoping for post-bye return, was 15.6 PPG before injury.
• Rest-of-Season Risers:
  • Kamani Vidal, Ashdon Genti, Rico Dowdle, and Breece Hall as potential top-15 finishers.
  • Derrick Henry highlighted as a must-buy/trade-for as NFL weather turns colder.

Wide Receivers

[Continued ~47:53]

• Top in Points/Game:
  • Puka Nacua & Jaxon Smith-Njigba (both 18.6 PPG)

    “[JSN] has a 38% target share… you just can’t cover him.” – Andy [48:38]

  • Amon-Ra St. Brown (“My confidence level — highest of any receiver,” – Andy [49:20])
  • Ja’Marr Chase – But high volatility tied to Flacco’s health.
  • George Pickens, Garrett Wilson, Davante Adams
• Trade Talk:
  • Despite injury and QB issues, Justin Jefferson favored over Pickens, Adams, and Garrett Wilson rest-of-season.
• Notable Sleepers For Second-Half Jump:
  • Devonta Smith, Tetairoa McMillan (“He will come through…,” – Andy [55:06])
  • Rashee Rice as a small-sample leader (20.4 PPG in 2 games).

    “Rice is averaging 20.4 in two games. Super small sample, but… currently the number one in points per game.” – Andy [55:59]

Tight Ends

[57:23]

• Leaders:
  1. Tucker Kraft
  2. Trey McBride
  • Others: Dallas Goedert, Jake Ferguson, Tyler Warren, Travis Kelce (Kelce expected to surge second half).
  • Darrick Gadsden (high “belief” score among hosts for strong finish).
• Outside Looking In:
  • Brock Bowers & Fant likely to enter end-of-year top 5.

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Trade Targets & Strategy

• Rest-of-Season Buys:
  • Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry highlighted given cakewalk schedule across all positions for Baltimore.

    “Rest of season… Number one easiest schedule for QBs, seventh for RBs, 10th for WRs, number one for TEs. Juicy.” – Andy [19:53]

• High-Volatility Players:
  • Chase (Tied to Flacco’s health; JSN may be safer).

    “The odds of Flacco finishing the season… I’d be really surprised. So… this is JSN for me.” – Andy [60:44]

• Fair-Value Trades:
  • Ashdon Genti for Emeka Egbuka seen as “fair,” but depends on team needs.
• Caution:
  • Don’t leave trade offers pending during active games—can cause disputes if a player gets hurt mid-game and trade is accepted.

    “Do not let trade offers be sitting for players who are actively playing.” – Mike [69:07]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Injury Risk/Backup Importance:

  “If you have any Cincinnati Bengals skill player, you better be lighting prayer candles.” – Mike [14:20]

• On Puka Nacua & JSN:

  “When they throw the ball, it runs through JSN… you can’t cover him.” – Andy [48:06], [49:06]

• On Indy Colts Defense:

  “They’re the number three defense right now…getting it done every week…” – Andy [09:12]

• On Jonathan Taylor's Dominance:

  “He carries your team. He is the anti curse. He’s the anti ring.” – Jason [33:18]

• On Fair Play in Trades:

  “If a trade offer was made and then a player gets injured… and then you accept it—oh no, no, no. That’s pure bush league.” – Andy [68:37]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |---|---| | Baseball Banter / Intros | 01:13 – 03:06 | | Backup Options/Waiver Recap | 05:05 – 13:30 | | News & Notes | 13:39 – 18:37 | | TNF Preview: Ravens vs Dolphins | 18:37 – 25:29 | | QB Midseason Review | 25:29 – 32:34 | | RB Midseason Review | 42:42 – 47:12 | | WR/Tight End Midseason Review | 47:53 – 57:23 | | Notable Trade/Mailbag | 59:07 – 66:24 |

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Tone & Energy

Upbeat, humorous, and insightful, with classic Ballers banter and inside jokes (“triple nasty Nick Chubb,” “button mash better”), but always circling back to actionable advice with a streak of realism and commiseration with fantasy managers’ pain and stress points.

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Summary Takeaways for Listeners

• Backup options matter more than ever through injuries and bye weeks—don’t be afraid to get “gross” if it guarantees touches.
• Now is the time to target stars on teams with easy schedules—especially Baltimore players.
• Several fantasy “stars” may regress (Pickens). Others like JSN, Rashee Rice, and even backup RBs could smash the second half.
• Don’t leave trade offers hanging during games, and play fair—it’s what keeps your league fun for everyone.
• Actively manage your IR and bench, and use smart waiver stashes to get through the chaos of November and December.

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Transcript

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome in the Fantasy footballers podcast. Wednesday, October 29th. I thought you had a Dodgers shirt on, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

It's not. It's a no effect shirt in the World Series.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Who's the other team?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. It's not the Marlin.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't know who it was until yesterday.

[Andy Holloway]

I know the Marlins were close.

[Jason Moore]

And you guys don't know who's in the world.

[Mike Wright]

No, I do now.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I also know it's two.

[Jason Moore]

Two? Yes. It's two to two.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Yeah. I'm so knowledgeable about baseball.

[Andy Holloway]

What is. So what is this other mystery?

[Jason Moore]

The Toronto Blue Jays.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that doesn't count.

[Jason Moore]

Name some of their top players. Historically.

[Andy Holloway]

Historically, yeah, Bo. Name it, Bo. Name it.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, we're good. We're not a baseball show. We are a football show. And we got a busy one today. Thursday night, preview backup options.

[Andy Holloway]

I think there's probably like three or four franchises in Major League Baseball that I could name any player from any time.

[Jason Moore]

Like, you're saying there's only a few. That you could name a player that.

[Andy Holloway]

I could name a player. And almost all of the historical players I could name were from the Yankees.

[Jason Moore]

Roy Halliday.

[Mike Wright]

Roy Halliday. Yeah. And he. He passed. Right. He had like a. I thought he had a tragic past.

[Jason Moore]

You know, I think you're right, but if you're wrong, it's even funnier.

[Mike Wright]

No, he had a. He had a. Well, it's not funny. The man had a tragic passing, but I know him because he was back when I actually played baseball, video games. He was in there. He had a, I think a circle change that was just so dominant. Oh, man, that's a good time.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. Well, there's your baseball segment. NFL News to catch you up on as well.

[Andy Holloway]

I have a problem.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, we know I have a problem.

[Andy Holloway]

In one of our leagues, our League of Shadows that we play with Rich Eisenhower. I did not bid enough. I'm looking at the waivers that just went through. I did not bid enough for Tyrone Tracy. I was the second highest bid. I did not bid enough for Cream Hunt. I was the second highest bid.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But my running backs this week are currently Omarion Hampton, Quinshawn Judkins. Bye, Saquon Barkley.

[Jason Moore]

Bye.

[Andy Holloway]

Shoe. I have to start.

[Mike Wright]

So that's your problem.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Looks like I will be starting Emmanuel Wilson and Samajp right.

[Jason Moore]

I would still can't get better than that.

[Mike Wright]

I would start the best of my bye week players.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They have genuinely might score.

[Mike Wright]

They have the best chance of scoring this week.

[Jason Moore]

We have our. Well, Pook Newcomb still in the lead for the Megalobol. I think that's two weeks in a row.

[Mike Wright]

Impressive.

[Jason Moore]

On Wednesday we check in with the 20,000 plus of you in the megalobol puk nukem in the lead. Smokey the Bear still in second. Unless that wasn't updated. I think there's a chance. There is a chance. There's no way those two. We're still in the lead. So you're going to have to tell.

[Mike Wright]

Me there's a chance someone didn't do their job.

[Jason Moore]

I want to know who to yell at.

[Andy Holloway]

The leader right now it's correct is.

[Jason Moore]

Puke Newcomb and the second place team, Smokey the Bear.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone did their job at doing their job.

[Jason Moore]

You're so good at two weeks in a row.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Good work.

[Jason Moore]

Unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Good job, everybody. Good work, Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

Man, I really wanted to bury someone over on X. You can follow us at the FF Ballers. Jason is at Jason ffl. Mike at FF Hitman. I'm at Andy Holloway. If you want to follow us individually, we have backup options to kick off today's show.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Waiver wire went through this morning.

[Mike Wright]

It did. Which we have. We do have terrible news about our Chopped league. Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

The person with Brock Bowers, AKA the ring, AKA seven days until you get chopped was second.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, they were. They were going in. They were the Touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Away from losing and getting chopped with Bowers but that curse is currently on hiatus. Oh it's happening next week.

[Jason Moore]

The most dropped players on sleeper over the last 24 hours obviously Kirk Cousins. We know why Joe Flacco.

[Andy Holloway]

This one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was talking to Jason because we have the segment every week. Think it's very helpful of you. Don't always get the waiver guys you want waiver guys you want people dropping Joe Flacco is insanity to me.

[Jason Moore]

I know why though.

[Mike Wright]

I understand that he's hurt.

[Jason Moore]

No, no that's not it.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, please enlighten me.

[Jason Moore]

This happened because there were six teams on by with quarterbacks. People had Flacco was the pickup for the one week and they're going back to their staple at quarterback now you're saying you should roster two quarterbacks. I don't know if that's the case in every one of these situations.

[Andy Holloway]

I think in most situations it is the case. What we have seen from Flacco in his three games are two great games, one good game and the last time he was a starter in 2023 he had nothing but good games. So there's, there's kind of he's at least someone that you should be holding.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think that's the case. If you have Lamar Jackson, I don't think that's the case.

[Mike Wright]

That's fine but I mean if you're.

[Jason Moore]

Looking and that would have been one of the situations that maybe he was a fill in for.

[Mike Wright]

Let's go to the bi weeks. Kyler, give me Flacco. Jared Goff, give me Flacco. Trevor Lawrence, I'll take Flacco. Gino.

[Andy Holloway]

Gino is already on.

[Jason Moore]

Please don't mention his name.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going through the quarterbacks who were actually on by Stafford. I mean I think it's Flacco maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think, I think the Jaden and the Lamar managers were the ones filling in a lot. But yeah, I agree with you. Like Joe is a but he's hurt now.

[Mike Wright]

He will be back.

[Jason Moore]

Compounds the issue of rostering multiple quarterbacks. Like I don't and you know I.

[Mike Wright]

Get sometimes you need a spot but it's like dropping him to a potential opponent. I just because of the ac, because of the shoulder. We got the report that he is day to day. I think it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

With the AC joint I would not be dropping Joe Flacco.

[Jason Moore]

People dropped Kyle Manangai which I don't understand because he's getting over 50% of snaps.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

People drop Bashard Smith, which again, you have an injury now to. Did you guys mention this on the show?

[Andy Holloway]

We found out right afterwards.

[Jason Moore]

MCL issue for Isaiah Pacheco, which will week to week. I mean, it looked like Cream Hunt was done, done. And then he scores twice last year like a bad penny and now just keeps coming back.

[Mike Wright]

So I'll just jump.

[Jason Moore]

They honestly need to trade for somebody. They're the number one.

[Mike Wright]

There are rumors. There are rumors for who? Just somebody of them trading for the running back. But I'll jump in here. My backup option is Brashard Smith. If people dropped him, that's a. Now a big whoopsie. With the Isaiah Pacheco injury, we don't know if Pacheco will miss time for sure. But when someone is classified week to week, you have to imagine it's at least one if. If not multiple weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's an mcl like he's not going to play.

[Mike Wright]

Right. And then the split between Kareem Hunt and Smith, we don't know how it's going to shake out. I mean, Kareem Hunt, I think is still the more valuable of the two. However, like Burchard Smith, he has juice. He's been. We've seen Jerick McKinnon have dominance on a short or a small amount of touches for the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. So I think that he. If he got dropped, he should be picked up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I'll hop in then. Mine is one of the three most dropped players. It's. It's a defense. It's the Indianapolis Colts.

[Mike Wright]

That's a lot of players and I dropped.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I don't understand why the Colts are getting dropped across many, many leagues. This is a team that has. I mean, they're playing good ball in all three phases of the game, but in our scoring in the league of record, we are. They're the number three defense right now. They're scoring a lot and the way that they're scoring matters. I realize the other team's going to have to go for it on 4th, catch up maybe. They end up giving up a lot more yards, a lot more points, but they are getting after the quarterback. I'm looking at the last few weeks since week three. Four sacks, three sacks, four sacks, two sacks, three sacks, four sacks. They're getting it done every week and then they're going on the road to Pittsburgh. The Steelers offense is not some juggernaut that I'm afraid of. And then they're at home against Atlanta. So look at you. Look at Your leagues, they are getting dropped everywhere. I don't really understand why. When you pick them up, when you.

[Mike Wright]

Have a defense, or. I'm sorry, when you have an offense that is scoring the way that the Indianapolis Colts do, which they currently have the most points per drive of any NFL team since 2000, the way that things are going right now for them, that turns into a negative game script, which is it can be a positive for your defense if you know that the other team has to throw. That's the. That's when it's much easier to get a quarterback sack.

[Andy Holloway]

That's when yours back and go.

[Mike Wright]

That's when interceptions happen. That's when interceptions for touchdowns happen. So I'm with you. I think the Colts should be picked back up.

[Jason Moore]

I think you're going to see Cleveland hit tons of waiver wires because they're going into the bye week. And that's another defense. That's the highest point defense that you could stash away. I got a gross one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you do.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, but.

[Jason Moore]

But this is the game of football. I mean, yeah. Double nasty Nick Chubb.

[Andy Holloway]

So I didn't know who you were going with, but if I may look for a button.

[Jason Moore]

There you go. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a trip. That's a trip.

[Jason Moore]

Triple nasty.

[Mike Wright]

Disgusting.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it is. It is something you need to pay attention to because you can be disgusting and gross, but you're talking about who you're starting this week in a bi week situation.

[Andy Holloway]

I would love to have Nick Chubb.

[Jason Moore]

And by the way, I got him in one of our leagues and you were bidding behind me. He had 17 carries. When this team is playing at home or they're playing ahead, Nick Chubb is their guy. There's no comment about Joe Mixon ever coming back. He's not running well, but he. 17 carries.

[Mike Wright]

He's running.

[Jason Moore]

He's running. He's actually outpacing Woody Marks in yards per carry, in rush success rate, enforced missed tackle rate. You look at last week, that game script in particular. If they are ahead, you know they're at home three of the next four weeks. Do you know that they're once again against Denver? Yeah, we talked about it at home.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

They are in a tremendous defense. There are a lot of game scripts that happen for this team where they get it going. I mean, Nico comes back, they're at home, their defense gets cooking. Against Denver, we know Denver's offense randomly turns off 17 carries. Is 17 carries. It's all I'm going to say about that because nobody wants him on the roster. But you could go out there and you can play what, like a Manon guy or a Tajay Spears, Rashad Smith. If I have that many guaranteed touches, something good can happen. And it has happened for Chubb this year. He's had games where he's been productive from a fantasy perspective. He's been the top a top 20 running back two times. I mean, this was the most opportunities he's had on a season. I don't want to ignore that.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. The. I found a funny stat here that I had not realized because Woody Marks had a great game. His, you know, the counterpart here for the Houston Texans, rookie Woody Marks, who was, I mean, scored 13 points and a half point scoring format good enough for running back 19 on the week, solid. But the funny stat is he had four catches, including a monster 50 yard reception. Woody Marks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I saw that play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Do you know his final receiving line?

[Andy Holloway]

It's got to be sub 54 for.

[Jason Moore]

49 with a 50 yard reception. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's.

[Mike Wright]

That. That just tickles me when that's.

[Jason Moore]

It's not going to be easy to predict either of them ever being productive, but I don't think a player that can get 19 opportunities should sit on a waiver wire. That's all.

[Mike Wright]

I can agree with that. Even though it's disgusting.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Jason Moore]

We talked about Joe Flacco dealing with an AC joint sprain. He leaves his status up in the air for this week's game against the Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

This is usually one of those injuries. You can take a shot, go out there and play through it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it does. It was the first time since the trade, though, where you do have that momentary panic with like, Chase and Higgins. It's like, oh, my gosh, what would happen if their hero went down and didn't play? Like joint sprain is one sack. I mean, it's one sack.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true.

[Jason Moore]

That's true. And you come down on the shoulder and you're out of the game.

[Mike Wright]

It's a very fragile situation. But if you have any Cincinnati Bengals skill player, you better be lighting prayer candles. Yeah, Joe Flacco plays.

[Jason Moore]

It is a fragile situation.

[Mike Wright]

Guess who's back if he's gone?

[Jason Moore]

Browning. Yeah, that's how you say it.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Browning.

[Mike Wright]

That's how they call him up, too.

[Jason Moore]

A Browning.

[Andy Holloway]

Get in here.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

And take off your blindfold. Isaiah Pacheco, considered week to week with a sprained mcl. We just talked through the implications there. Dan Quince, A Jaden Daniels will practice on Wednesday. He looked like a happy guy on the sideline of that game. There's a lot of optimism he'll be back for my matchup against Al Borland, the Falcons, some updates from head coach Raheem Morris, Michael Pennix, I feel really good about. He feels really good about Pinnock's coming back. Says Michael's in the building and in meetings. We'll see how he does in the walkthrough. Yeah, yeah, they'd like to not have Kirk. Can you fail at the walkthrough?

[Mike Wright]

I guess if.

[Jason Moore]

Can you limp through a walkthrough?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. When you got a bum leg or foot, whatever it is.

[Jason Moore]

I don't remember Drake London expected to practice this week. That'd be good.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we like that.

[Jason Moore]

George Pickens and the Cowboys have not engaged in contract extension talks of any kind.

[Mike Wright]

Of course not.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you.

[Mike Wright]

This is. Guys, this is Jerry Jones. If anything, if George Pickens gets resigned to the Dallas Cowboys, it will be way too late and cost them way more than it should.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If you're the agent for George Pickens, you're not even remotely considering an extension. This is. I want that mark.

[Jason Moore]

I actually think it's pretty likely he's gone.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, the mark. Exactly. He is going to make so much money the way he's playing this year. And wide receiver, needy teams. He'll top the market.

[Jason Moore]

It does seem that way.

[Mike Wright]

Trying to pull up the wide receivers who are free agents right now. So you got Evans, Kirk, Debo, Jacoby.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Trying to scroll to see if there's anyone George Pickens close to noteworthy as Pickens, but doesn't seem so.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Deontay Johnson, the free agent himself, the eternally free agent. Deontay Johnson visiting the Giants and then full practices for Lamar Jackson. He'll be back on Thursday.

[Mike Wright]

Giants, hallelujah. Super desperate.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, we'll see.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you've got it. I know coaches are competitors, but they're buddies. They all know each other. They're in a fraternity.

[Jason Moore]

And he's played for all of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you're like, they got to be like, dude, you don't want.

[Mike Wright]

You can call.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't want none of that.

[Mike Wright]

You can call three of your buddies and be like, hey, what? What. What happened with Deontay? And they're going to tell you and you're going to not want to sign him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's the arrested development bit, which.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe it'll work for us.

[Mike Wright]

It never works, but maybe it'll work for us.

[Jason Moore]

No, I doubt he sees the light of day over there because once he. Once he visits a team, that's when they get to know him. Yeah, that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage, subjects, policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll hit the Thursday night preview. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. Join Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreet and Kaylee Hartung this Thursday as the Baltimore Ravens take on the Miami Dolphins. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with football's best party, TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member. Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Ravens and Dolphins Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Wanna try the cheese pull? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

And another entree plus an Appetizer for just 25 bucks. That's why I always come to Applebee's for their 2 for 25 deal. Limited time price, participation in selection may vary. Tax and gratuity excluded. The Baltimore Ravens 2 and 5 traveling to Miami. But we, we're not talking about that yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Thursday night breakdown.

[Jason Moore]

Mike's giving me the button. Like you got to start your segment officially. And I thought that, that I honestly.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought the same thing.

[Jason Moore]

I thought that the button was you saying that I was going to almost upset this.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Which I do kind of believe because like I know we do our picks here in the office. Like I took Miami in our little picks thing. It's a seven and a half point line. Baltimore on the road. The over under is 51 and a half.

[Mike Wright]

Juicy.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, this is the highest it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Gone up since I took the under.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I did hear about that.

[Andy Holloway]

If you missed that story, you listened to the end of yesterday's episode.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Jason. Jason, do you just scroll in that up and smash buttons?

[Andy Holloway]

I was trying to be quick.

[Jason Moore]

Are you a button?

[Andy Holloway]

You have no idea how quick I was. That news came out and I was on top. Actually, it was so quick that I didn't even get the right game.

[Jason Moore]

The button mash better. That should be your Instagram Baltimore heavy favorites on the road here against Miami. The, you know, the offense is going to get Lamar Jackson back. We had the defense perform better last week. You know, Lamar came out and said what we all know at 2 and 5. Every week's going to be a win or go home game. It's do or die every single week. It's the position that the, that the rival Bengals were in last year with Joe Burrow and the slow start that they had.

[Andy Holloway]

And I really think if there's anything you can do, you don't have much time. The game is tomorrow. But if there's anything you can do to trade for Lamar, to trade for Derek Henry, I think rest of season these guys will be. They're like the scariest people that I don't want to face rest of season. Number one, easiest schedule for quarterbacks. Number seventh easiest for running backs. 10 for wide receivers. Number one schedule for tight ends. It is juicy. Their defense is not going to stop people and they're going to win. I mean, they might win every game here on out.

[Mike Wright]

It's all business. Jason. You see they got, they got rid of the games.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I didn't, I didn't see that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Lamar said, get this stuff out of here.

[Jason Moore]

What games? Like games like the lockdown.

[Mike Wright]

They're doing ping pong and I think there was maybe some arcade machines.

[Jason Moore]

It's all gone. So he's hurt but he gets rid of their games.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's right.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, well, look, I do think Miami could keep it close. They've been playing well. It is confusing because Miami has been a tremendously bad rushing defense and then they go and shut down Bijan last week on the road.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like Atlanta shut down Bijan.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Kirk, Kirk shut down. I mean, it was a mess. Both teams are tied for dead last in offensive plays per game, but the Ravens now have an implied point total, the highest of the entire week. You play Lamar when he's healthy. You do that every week. Just like you do with Devon Hn in this game. Derek Henry in this game. You know, Waddle, he's an every week start.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. I mean, since Tyreek has gone down, he's the wide receiver 4, the wide receiver 17, the wide receiver 4. And he had one down game at wide receiver 87. But every wide receiver has down games. You're going to be involved. This defense isn't good. But even in tough matchups, I'm going to be starting Jalen Waddle, Zay Flowers.

[Jason Moore]

I think he is what wide receiver two category. He's going to be started with Lamar with this awesome over under. Now Jason, you made a comment before we started the show that you had picked up Mark Andrews to play in this matchup. I know that you have been playing this. It's like a roulette game with six bullets in the six chambers.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean it's just not a really.

[Jason Moore]

Good odds for you and the tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

That is exactly how I feel like.

[Jason Moore]

You have probably no optimism for this week.

[Andy Holloway]

No. So I picked up Andrews. This is a good matchup for tight ends. Lamar is coming back. Touchdown opportunity is there. He will absolutely wreck me. That means this is an Isaiah likely game. I have been saying this is where I'm going to be paying attention. Is Isaiah likely. We have not yet seen one game where Lamar and likely are together. This was to start the year. There's a lot of conversations like who would you rather even roster going into the season, Andrews or likely? Well, likely got hurt. Then Lamar got hurt. Now we're going to see like what they might have planned coming into the season. Now obviously I just put my chips on Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews is, you know, 60% snaps, has been really involved in the offense. Obviously had a career high in touchdowns last year. I think you do we need to.

[Jason Moore]

Try to talk him out of this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So you know his points, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Mark Andrews?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. I mean he had tough man.

[Mike Wright]

He had the one game with 24 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean I don't care about anyone's points when Lamar Jackson wasn't playing. Like I couldn't care less about.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

We could talk about Zay Flowers and.

[Jason Moore]

No that. So you think this will be one?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I just think this, this is a game where I would take the over. I think a lot of points will be scored with Lamar Jackson back against the Miami defense and so I want pieces of this game.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Any other. You know, have you been watching Ollie Gordon? Do you think he's going to become a player you care about at any point?

[Mike Wright]

I don't think so.

[Jason Moore]

He's. I think he's a good player. He was RB18 last week. I asked. He had 10 carries for 46 yards. He has the potential to get into.

[Mike Wright]

The end zone like a 20 yard touchdown reception. I think it was pretty fluky.

[Andy Holloway]

It was fluky. He's still not getting enough opportunity. I mean he played 30% of the snaps. He is a good insurance option for Devon. Hn is an undersized back and if he goes down it'll just be Ollie Gordon there. So he's a fine backup. But no, I don't think he's not going to break out Wall Manon guy.

[Mike Wright]

Where I'm, you know, in desperate times you could put Manangai in as a flex. I don't think you can. I wouldn't do that with Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah, I was just curious about that.

[Mike Wright]

What about Malik? Did we talk him?

[Andy Holloway]

Ma ma leek okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's pretty risky.

[Mike Wright]

I knew he was in the top 20, but it was, yeah, 4 for 36. I mean he's just. That's disappointing. Yeah, I mean 22 yards, 30 yards, 36 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

I did a film studio. I thought he would do that after Tyreek went down, watched a bunch of Malik Washington. I was just so disappointed. He's very fast. He's. He is. I said he is very f will be big plays that he has this year. I just don't know that you can predict them. I mean you could say, hey, this is the Ravens high over under. They're going to need to throw the ball a lot. Maybe this is the, this is the game where he has one and that's fine, but that's all you're doing. You're just kind of like guessing that he might get a straight line, speedy play. I don't think he's a very good wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

You're going to keep Jameson Williams or Alec Pierce on your roster.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Move on.

[Andy Holloway]

Review a source Rags all right, we.

[Jason Moore]

Are getting into a mid season review.

[Mike Wright]

Here at the midpoint.

[Jason Moore]

I know looking at, we are cruising. Yeah. Looking at the top players in each position. After eight weeks, what we think will change, what is surprising, it's, it's super interesting. I mean these lists are great to review. At the quarterback position, Mahomes is number one. He's tied right now for the second most fantasy points per game he's averaged in his career.

[Mike Wright]

Unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

So Mahomes is one, Lamar Jackson is two. Obviously has missed time. So. But you had QB three and three and five for his missed games. Allen at three, Jalen hurts at four. And then you get some new faces. I mean it's Drake May at number five. He is the only quarterback in NFL history with a completion percentage above 75% and nine plus yards per attempt. He did it again last week in an impressive fashion. Where you start this game, you're being slowed down by Cleveland, you're getting sacked by Miles Garrett. You commit a turnover, you commit a fumble and then you just bounce back and dominate the rest of the ball game. He's been outstanding. I don't think any of us really have doubts about him rest of season. No.

[Andy Holloway]

At this point he's shown enough. His schedule is also very good going forward. I know on the Falcons team in the league of record, they have. They have Drake May, and I was really worried.

[Mike Wright]

You mean Josh.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no, I don't. That was not a misspeak.

[Jason Moore]

I understand. What.

[Andy Holloway]

People don't know who you're talking.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. When you say the Falcons, they think.

[Andy Holloway]

The Falcons the team that's fair. I mean, Matt Pingree, who we call the Falcon, anyways, their team is one of the super teams in our league of record. Very high odds to make it to the championship. And I thought that their weakness was Drake May. And now I look at. That was, you know, a month ago. Like, oh, maybe he'll falter. He has been flawless. Like, not only is he great in the pocket, his downfield shots are so accurate, but he gets out, he runs the ball. I mean, there's, there's really. There's no hole in his game right.

[Jason Moore]

Now if you want to know what it looks like on a season. Because I think that's helpful sometimes when you look at how they're performing. He's on pace for 4,300 yards and 32 touchdowns while also running for 530 yards and four more touchdowns. So that's where he's at. It's been awesome. Daniel Jones, he's been a top 12 quarterback in six of eight weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Just embrace it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, when you're scoring at the rate that they're scoring, it's so much upside and they're getting healthier. You know what I mean? Like, they've had a lot of weeks where they were missing players. Josh Downs has been hurt. Alec Pierce got knocked out with a concussion. They have weapons to give you big plays, and then they have, you know, Jonathan Taylor to play action too. It's just, it works well. Bo Nicks is sitting at 7. It's been more. He's the roller coaster y with him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. He's the weird name of the list so far. He's the one where you're like, do.

[Jason Moore]

I feel great locking him in rest of the season?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. He's. His play has been really erratic.

[Jason Moore]

Last two weeks have been amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, but even the last two weeks, like two weeks ago, he was the quarterback one, but also he had four points going into the fourth quarter and looked like a trash quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but he can do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. No, absolutely. I mean, I love Bo Nix the man. And coming into this season, I was pretty high on him in the quarterback rankings. But just the eye test. And it's so weird how he can play very well and then really poorly under throw guys, throw it behind him. Throw picks where he's not seeing the defenders.

[Jason Moore]

He can do more on the move than he can.

[Andy Holloway]

That is exactly what it feels like. Like he gets on the move and he thinks he's Superman and he's trying crazy stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Adrenaline going. I There are quite a few quarterbacks I would take over. Bo Nicks locked into my starting position.

[Mike Wright]

Who are ranked after him that are ranked after. It's the.

[Jason Moore]

Jaden Daniels is the first one I'd much rather have. Daniels is at number nine in points per game right now.

[Mike Wright]

My one note for Bo Nix as we're going through the second half of the year and I've mentioned Pat Bryant a couple times, but he. Pat Bryant is getting more integrated into the. Into the offense. He had a super boss touchdown catch.

[Jason Moore]

Super boss.

[Mike Wright]

So if. If he can truly step into a role as a three. And then. And now you're talking. It's Cortland Sutton, the breakout of Troy Franklin and the upside of Pat Bryant. That would make me feel a bit more comfy. They're just for those championship weeks.

[Jason Moore]

They're so deep at the pass catcher position, in my opinion. You know, you have Mims that at any moment can give you a big play. You have Evan Ingram who's been targeted eight, eight, seven times. I mean, he's been targeted a lot. Their versatility throwing the ball to RJ Harvey, like, it gives Knicks a really nice baseline that, you know, whether or not, I mean, I would take Jaden Daniels over him, certainly.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would do that too. But how about. How about Herbert?

[Jason Moore]

I think those are neck and neck. Yeah, I would probably take Herbert.

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather Herbert over Knicks.

[Jason Moore]

I would probably take Dak over Nicks. I would probably take Love rest of season. My second half sleeper over Knicks. I would probably take Baker Mayfield over Nicks, although his schedule is a little rough.

[Mike Wright]

So is Dak.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they are.

[Mike Wright]

The Dallas Cowboys passing schedule coming up. It's got a rough stretch. We highlighted it. Now it's at home for. For a few of those difficult matchups. But they're still tough, no question.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then rounding out the top 10, Herbert, Daniels, Stafford and Dak tied. And outside of the top 10, Jordan Love is the next closest one at 18.7 per game. Then Baker, Caleb Goff and Rogers.

[Andy Holloway]

The best one is Justin fields sitting at 16 and a half points per game. He has never scored anywhere near that. No, it's like he's 5 or 30. So it's like 16.

[Mike Wright]

That is the perfect average.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's like of course he's 16 points per game. He will continue being 16 points per game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's like a hit once, fail twice type of average. Right. Because that's on the lower end. So 16 puts him at 18 at quarterback position. That's about a hit.

[Mike Wright]

He's. So we got.

[Andy Holloway]

It's kind of an every other guy we had.

[Mike Wright]

We got four hits, three misses. As far as last week, fantasy points plus 20 point. Last week he was good. He was the. It was against the Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

So 20 points.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So that's certainly around eight.

[Mike Wright]

But he fields and the jets looked much better. They're going into the bi week but then it's Cleveland.

[Andy Holloway]

I would say if there's any quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

He'S going to get destroyed.

[Andy Holloway]

There's any quarterback that hasn't done hardly anything this year that for fantasy purposes that I believe could have a strong second half, it would be Sam Darnold currently sitting at the quarterback. 20. He's looked really good.

[Jason Moore]

What about Kyler?

[Andy Holloway]

Kyler I hate.

[Mike Wright]

No, thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

He plays Dallas this week, so he should be started. And I think I'll have a good fantasy week.

[Jason Moore]

Start Kyler this week against Dallas or Bo Nicks this week.

[Mike Wright]

Bo.

[Andy Holloway]

I would start Bo. I don't care.

[Mike Wright]

I was against Houston on the road.

[Andy Holloway]

I would still start Bo.

[Jason Moore]

I think that one's a tough one, actually.

[Mike Wright]

It's tough for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I just hate Kyler. I don't want to watch it.

[Jason Moore]

Right. But that's not the best analysis I've ever heard.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Hatred based.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

That's some fight based analysis.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Just for the Cardinals. 31 out of 32. I'm good.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Running backs. Top running backs on the year, I think. You know who's number one? Jonathan Taylor, who is putting up 25 and a half fantasy points a game dating back to 2007. That is the second highest per game average compared to what was CMC 2019. Jonathan Taylor. Just because it's. There's nothing more fun than this. He is on pace for 1800 rushing yards, 26 rushing touchdowns and another four through the air with 430 receiving yards.

[Mike Wright]

He is carrying people.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean there are. In our chop league, there's. There's somebody who's had piles of injuries, but they have Jonathan Taylor and they're alive. They're not chopped. He is the anti curse. He's the anti ring. He carries your team. It would be hard to say, hey, this guy can keep up 26 touchdown a year average. But it doesn't feel like he can. Like sometimes it feels like he should score more. You watch games, he scores 30 plus fantasy points and you're like, he should add more in that game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but they, I mean, genuinely, some of his best games like this last week against Tennessee, he didn't play as much as he could have played because they, you know, walloped him and they brought in the backups at the end of the game. He is three different times this year been the running back one on the week and another two times been in the top three. So dominant. This is every year there are, every single year in fantasy there is a player or two players that lap the field that they're positioning.

[Jason Moore]

Saquon last year, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. And Jamar Chase last year he lapped the field at the wide receiver position. This year it looks like it's going to be Johnny Taylor four points ahead of second place in points per game. It's just wild.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to put this to the test though, with Mike right here. Christian McCaffrey is number two on this list. So first of all, victory lap for Mike, 21.1 fantasy points per game on pace for 455 opportunities. I don't know what happened last week to Everybody on the 49ers, but. But like I mean, you just said the lapping the field of Jonathan Taylor. He is scoring significantly more fantasy points per game than Christian McCaffrey on a significantly better offense. You're going for a title this year. Would you trade Christian McCaffrey to the Jonathan Taylor manager for Jonathan Taylor?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, and we had our draft, what our redraft a couple weeks ago. I took Taylor one and of course my heart and I want to be like, yeah, I told you, Christian McCaffrey, but no man. Jonathan Taylor, the what the Colts have become. I think you could not even the most diehard of Colts fan could not have predicted or predicted seven and one.

[Jason Moore]

With this kind of scoring that the.

[Mike Wright]

Colts would be one of the best offenses we've seen in modern NFL history.

[Jason Moore]

The Colts were legitimately. You just look at the odds. This is not a subjective opinion. You look at the odds of coaches that could be fired. Shane Steichen, oh, yeah, was on that list because of how upside down the management of the team was last year.

[Andy Holloway]

Even this year going into training camp in the off season in the program, it's like, who's the quarterback? And it felt so silly. It's like, oh, it's going to be Anthony Richardson. Remember how much it went back and forth this offseason during, like, preseason? It was like, oh, Anthony Richardson is in the lead. He's going to get the job. No, Daniel Jones is playing great at, you know, it went back and forth and it just seemed a mess until game started. And Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones said, watch, check this out.

[Jason Moore]

Said that they made the right choice with Daniel Jones a lot. And so CMC's number two, Bijan's number three, James Cook, number four, Josh Jacobs, number five, Jameer Gibbs, 18.1 a game. That's great. I mean, he is. He is less than a point away from being the fourth overall. And yet Gibbs feels a little bit like he didn't. He isn't quite delivering on the draft selection spot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, people were taking him as the running back, too. In some leagues, it is a little disappointing. And having, you know, Dan Campbell come out and say, we want to get David Montgomery the ball more.

[Jason Moore]

It'S.

[Andy Holloway]

It's tough. But he still has the complete nuclear option of, you know, he's doing this with David Montgomery there. Either one of those players ends up getting injured, missing time, then the other guy will, you know, be in that league winning category.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he. When you look at who was drafted at the, at the tippy top of the draft, he was. He's probably okay. I mean, Bijan. It was Bijan, it was Barkley, and it was Gibbs. Normally the three first ones off the board. Bijan sitting at 3 with 19.2, Gibbs at 6 with 18.1, and Saquon is sitting at 11 at 14.5. So Saquon was certainly the more damaging pick than Gibbs was. I was trying to go look at the opportunities. They said they wanted to get David Montgomery the ball more, and then they gave Gibbs the second most opportunity on the year. So maybe that's something you say to make David Montgomery feel better and you're.

[Mike Wright]

Just like, yeah, dude, you got him. We said we were going to give you the opportunities.

[Jason Moore]

You got him.

[Mike Wright]

You got him.

[Jason Moore]

David Devon HN sits at 7 at 17.2 fantasy points per game. He's averaging 20 opportunities a game. Last year it was 17. He has been just a.

[Mike Wright]

He's been awesome.

[Jason Moore]

An amazing player for fantasy teams.

[Mike Wright]

What? RB17 at worst.

[Andy Holloway]

He has been great on a weekly basis. He scares me. He really does. Like, when you are undersized and you get that much work. It's very difficult to just stay healthy. That's all. That's the only fear. I mean he looks great, is explosive, the offense is scoring points, but it's just like, you know, that was the fear with Bucky. The fear with Bucky Irving is when you're like a 200 pound back and you are like a bell cow.

[Mike Wright]

Bucky runs a little more injury prone than Achan does.

[Andy Holloway]

I would, I would agree with that. But he's more of between the tackle.

[Mike Wright]

Tries to play really big, which he does.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Very successfully for his size.

[Jason Moore]

But hn has started 32 consecutive games without injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm just saying I would rather have. I'd take him a world like Ollie Gordon if. If ATN could be a really efficient guy getting 1415 touches a game. It feels like better than him being for long term. Yeah, exactly. 20 touches a game. Just. Just stay healthy. I love a Chan.

[Jason Moore]

Javante Williams is number eight on the list.

[Mike Wright]

Finally found a guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

To the top seven. That's. While the order is, you know, a little bit mixed up. That's whatever that happens every year. Javante sneaking in here. Pretty, pretty incredible season. What a bounce back for him to be. I mean he's averaging. He's averaging a rushing touchdown per game and he is. That's pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

He is clearly their entire run.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Jane Blue concern.

[Andy Holloway]

77% of snaps, 72% of snaps, 80% of snaps, 77, 85, 72 and 69% of snaps like that is incredible for a running back.

[Jason Moore]

He's the Rico Dowdle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he really is.

[Jason Moore]

Bucky Irving, don't forget about him.

[Mike Wright]

Rico would have 10,000 yards on the Cowboys.

[Andy Holloway]

Javante.

[Mike Wright]

Per game.

[Andy Holloway]

Javante.

[Mike Wright]

I know, I know.

[Andy Holloway]

Actually, I know.

[Mike Wright]

Good.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think any of us believe that it's going away for.

[Jason Moore]

I'll give you this, Mike. I think Rico would have as much production as Javante if he was the starter.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I'll take it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Bucky Irving is number nine. Don't forget about him. He hasn't played since week four. He was averaging 15.6 a game. I say don't forget about him because I really hope we can. We don't forget about him. I hope he comes back and he's healthy. They need him bad, bad, bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The running game hasn't been the same and honestly, Baker hasn't shoulder right same either.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's been and I mean four weeks. Seems like they probably gambled and lost on the IR thing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because they're supposed to get him back after the buy. Hopefully.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. But we. Yeah, they're in the bye week right now. I would, I would think he'll be back. Week 10.

[Jason Moore]

DeAndre Swift is number 10 on the list. He's on pace for 53 red zone rush attempts. His previous career high was 37. They keep going to him. They have worked. Monongai and you look at the snap counts for Manangai. I think it's two straight weeks above 50%. Maybe that. Let me double check if I can spell Monongai, which I can't.

[Mike Wright]

It's. No, no, no. It was 45 and 46.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. So. Right.

[Mike Wright]

Two straight 45%.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's a lot of work compared to where he was at. So it's just working for them to rotate both guys in. Swift has been really efficient there. Barkley and Scatterboo. There was some encouraging. We should say this.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, yes.

[Jason Moore]

Like the reports right now are that like the Giants and everybody reporting it are expecting him to be back for the offseason training program.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Four to six month recovery was what I just saw reported, which is. That's an awesome timeline. If you know, if that's what their expectation is. That gives you hope that because we don't know the details of ligament damage and you know, we did get an.

[Jason Moore]

Update that comes out now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there was. And it was not just a dislocated ankle.

[Jason Moore]

No, they did report on that and it was, it was a lot. And again being back for the off season program. Yeah, it's a fibula fracture and a deltoid ligament rupture.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

How can that be four to six months?

[Jason Moore]

Well, because it's not. And that's what I wanted to caveat. It's four to six and they expect him back in the program. But medical experts that I trust, that I've been reading, they're saying it's more like a 10 month situation to be really back to a full degree. But being able to be back in camp and start working towards getting back to your old self, look, that's all you want. We need this guy in the game of football.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we do.

[Jason Moore]

We thought it'd be a head injury, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I knew it wouldn't be a head injury.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's impossible. That things titanium, it is made of.

[Andy Holloway]

It's filled with cement.

[Jason Moore]

How do you guys feel about Kyron Williams who is sitting at number 13 overall, 14.3 fantasy points per game? It feels like, you know, Kyron feels like you're driving by the luxury car dealership and then he's like the Ford Taurus of the running back room. It does feel like reliable. Always gets it done. But like nobody's. Like, he's not got the flashy features that make people go trade for him.

[Mike Wright]

I think the issue is the highs have been high. But I mean, you, not Kyren, like at least, you know, the true breakout season, week two, week four and then week seven, it was. It was nine points or fewer.

[Jason Moore]

He's only on pace for four touchdowns. He's only scored twice.

[Mike Wright]

No, that's on the ground. He does have three receiving touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Right. But I mean, on the ground, that's.

[Mike Wright]

What you used to get and that's. That's where it is. More.

[Jason Moore]

No 100 yard games.

[Mike Wright]

It's more troublesome for, for Kyron, for the future if they're. I mean, Devonte Adams, what was it?

[Andy Holloway]

That's what it is.

[Jason Moore]

Like three, three goal line.

[Mike Wright]

Three goal line touchdowns for Devonte Adams in one game. The fact that that is now a possibility just. It's not like, I mean, Kyron's a. I think a. Where is he right now?

[Jason Moore]

What did you got? Number 13.

[Mike Wright]

I think that's fine. You know, like that 13 to 10, like, he'll still be solid.

[Jason Moore]

But last year he had eight rushing touchdowns by this time and he has two.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the dream of top five, I think is not.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a. He's a very good back. The Rams look like a good offense, but I see him as an RB2. And if you look ahead, now that we're halfway through the season and you say, okay, well, what's the playoff schedule to open up for him? Or does it not. It's not good. You've got the Detroit Lions, who are very difficult to run on. So if you're talking about a, you know, will he get rushing touchdowns? That's difficult. You have on the road against Seattle, which has been a good rushing defense, and then on the road against Atlanta, which so far has been a mostly good rushing defense.

[Mike Wright]

He is past his buy. So if you were to trade for him with a player who has not. I mean, you. Can you get yourself an extra game.

[Jason Moore]

The. The next man up on the list, Amarian Hampton in the games without Najee before he got hurt, RB6, RB5, and then got hurt and still ended up in the top 24 in week five and now is out for a prolonged period of time. It's so disappointing. This is a player that was going to majorly impact fantasy football and it's just another one of these injuries that is, you know, taking a good, quality player off the field that we don't get to watch play. He was averaging 17.6 opportunities a game. Judkins comes in at 15 right now.

[Mike Wright]

Say just the Kamani Vidal Sassoon. What were the. Read me the Hampton opportunities.

[Jason Moore]

17.6.

[Mike Wright]

So he. Vidal in his three start, whatever you want to call them. He's at 16.7 attempts. I'm sorry. So he's at 20 opportunities a game.

[Jason Moore]

Their head coach came out and said he's playing like a number one running.

[Mike Wright]

Back and averaging over 15 points a week in those. In those three contests. I mean, it's. And Tennessee is this week, man.

[Jason Moore]

And I mean, when is.

[Mike Wright]

And then Pittsburgh.

[Jason Moore]

When is Hampton even back?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, man. The Vidal pickup, if you got him, enjoy it.

[Jason Moore]

Judkins at 15 and then just outside the top 15. If you want to ask the question, who could be a top 15 rest of season from this group? Henry, Genti, Dowdle, ETN, Breece Hall. These are all guys outside the top 15 right now. You know, the one that jumps out to me, obviously, I think, you know, Genty would be one that I think I feel comfortable about.

[Mike Wright]

He could.

[Jason Moore]

Genti and Breeze hall are kind of the same to me in the fact that bad team, bad offense, don't want to watch them, but they get. They're going to get a ton of work and it's going to work out. A lot of them. They're talented players and Jinty catching a lot of passes.

[Andy Holloway]

I would agree. Those two names are fine. I still, I mean, I said it in the Thursday breakdown. I think Derek Henry is a monster. Rest of season.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Personally about to start snowing. Yeah, there was snow in Vermont this. This last week and. Oh, weird. Yeah, weird. And then Derek Henry was good. Go figure. Other names. You know, I'm curious. The trade deadlines coming up and that could change the landscape for a couple of running backs. I don't know if you know Breece Hall, Tony Pollard. If a team makes a move to go get a guy, that'll be interesting rest of the season.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk wide receivers and tight ends.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Wanna try the cheese pull?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'll take this side. Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Now this is a cheese pull. Sorry.

[Mike Wright]

I can't believe you get this. And another entree like the chicken parmesan.

[Jason Moore]

Fettuccine, plus an appetizer for just 25 bucks. Excuse me.

[Mike Wright]

This is incredible.

[Andy Holloway]

Incredible.

[Jason Moore]

That's why I always come to Applebee's for the 2 for 25. Deal. What? Limited time, price, participation in selection may vary. Tax and gratuity excluded. All right, we're continuing our midseason review. Let's go ahead and blitz. The wide receivers here tied for number one in points per game. Puku Nakua and Jackson Smith and Jigba.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Jackson Smith and Jigbam Naku at 18.6. JSN has been unbelievable. Like, we knew Puka was great. He's been hurt. Should be back soon. JSN, though, averaging 117 receiving yards a game. 11 plus fantasy points in all seven games played. Machine like.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he is. His target share is. Is otherworldly. If you have a 30% target share, you're pretty much locked as a wide receiver. 1. It's very difficult to not finish as a wide receiver 1. If you can be one of the elites. At a 30% target share, he's at 38%. I mean, when they throw the ball, it runs through jsn and you know, the question that people might have had this time last year is like, is he good enough?

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

The answer is yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You can't cover him.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Almond Ross St. Brown comes in at number three. Ho hum. He just gets it done. He's on pace for 148 targets, 121 receptions, 13, 17.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. I don't know who I would like. I might prefer Amon Ra. Of all fantasy wide receivers genuinely like Jamar Chase will be way, you know, bigger games, more volatility. He'll have some down games too. Puka gets injured. To me, Amon Ra is like the most consistent every single week. I am. So it's just like plugged in and my confidence level in him just having a great game every week. I think he might be the highest of all wide receivers. For me.

[Jason Moore]

Chase comes in at four. The targets have been out of control with Flacco. It was really bad with Jake Browning and you know, we're talking unusable territory. Six fantasy points, four fantasy points. And then boom. 26, 20, 30, 15. And we talked about the insane Target pace with Flacco. I mean, he'd be on pace for 357 targets the last two games. George Pickens comes in at number five. 15.8 fantasy points per game. Certainly took advantage of the opportunity. When CD Lamb went out the last two games, he settled more into probably like this is one player that if you say, hey, who's going to drop out of the top 10, it would easily be the Pickens pick for me. Because while he'll be good, he won't be great. I mean, the last two weeks, wide receiver 27, wide receiver 23. That's about, you know, the 20 range is about where I'd have him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, those, those are great. His, you know, he's going to. His yardage has been fantastic. Even with CD Lamb back 82 yards 70. Those, those are, those are good numbers. But when he was the wide receiver one. When he was the wide receiver two on the week, those were CD Lambless games.

[Jason Moore]

CD Lamb's list. CD Lambless. Garrett Wilson at six, Devonte Adams at seven. Really close.

[Mike Wright]

Garrett is. He's dealing with that bull crap.

[Jason Moore]

It's like running rounds with a chain around or a. Like a big old.

[Mike Wright]

He's got like a weighted vest on.

[Jason Moore]

Just a. I was thinking around the ankle. He had like a cement block of the team dragging him down. He gets it done. Hopefully back soon as well. Tied for eighth. We have three names. Addison, Abuka and Odunze.

[Mike Wright]

The Addison one sneaking in there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, we brought this up last week a little bit, and he.

[Andy Holloway]

He has more points per game than Justin Jefferson, his teammate. Also the best wide receiver in football.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he does.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan addison.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. 13.3.

[Mike Wright]

No, the best wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Oh. Pittman's at number 11, Metcalf at 12, Drake London at 13, Jefferson at 14, and CD Lamb at 15 in points per game.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not fair.

[Jason Moore]

Because of his.

[Andy Holloway]

You're averaging a goose in there. When he, he got injured in the beginning of a game, I'm going to see how many he really is averaging per game.

[Jason Moore]

You want Lamb to have his respect.

[Mike Wright]

I'm guessing it'll be about. Be about 15, 16, which would put.

[Jason Moore]

Him right at four or five range. So you let me know. Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

It is 15.2.

[Jason Moore]

That would put him at number six.

[Andy Holloway]

Not good enough.

[Jason Moore]

Just ahead of Garrett Wilson. I mean, I think, you know, Metcalf, I think he's been a wild story because he feels not great, but still being a wide receiver one. At this juncture, he's had three of the last four weeks, he's finished inside the top 12. So maybe we don't complain. Maybe we just accept the touchdowns that are coming our way.

[Mike Wright]

As long as those keep coming.

[Jason Moore]

How do you feel about Jefferson? Do you feel like you.

[Mike Wright]

Optimistic?

[Jason Moore]

You know, the schedule is great, which is great for Addison, too.

[Mike Wright]

And I'm a J.J. mcCarthy apologist of. We talked about him, I think, on the Dynasty show, but of just. We really. You haven't seen anything from JJ McCarthy?

[Jason Moore]

The vibes are weird, though, aren't they? The vibes are weird in the fact that, like, you're right. And I don't know why the team and, like, all the vibes aren't around that he's played.

[Mike Wright]

He played Week one, three quarters were a disaster. It was his first start ever, and it's the opening weekend, and then his fourth quarter is great. He brings the team back against the Bears. Week two, he gets hurt in the third quarter, and he's playing on a bum ankle for.

[Jason Moore]

That's all we've seen.

[Mike Wright]

And that's it. That's all we've seen of J.J. mcCarthy. So there's not either. I mean, if you. If you like McCarthy, you're like, hey, he's played one and a half healthy games in the NFL. If you didn't like McCarthy, like, look how bad that was. So I think we're still very much in limbo. I'm hopeful, just based off of Kevin o' Connell's past of being able to maximize these quarterbacks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I would still rather have Justin Jefferson, even though he's the wide receiver. 14 right now. I'd have him over most of the guys ahead of him.

[Jason Moore]

Garrett Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would rather have him.

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Adams. Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, there's a lot of George.

[Andy Holloway]

Pickens, all those guys that are ahead of him. I would still take Justin.

[Mike Wright]

So you've got him at, like, probably like four, five.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

CD Lamb or him.

[Andy Holloway]

CD?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would take CD2.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, who's the most likely to jump into the top 15 rest of the season from the group of. You know, I'm looking at these names. I don't really think any of them are in there, but maybe Devonte Smith to.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, to drop.

[Jason Moore]

No, to jump in.

[Mike Wright]

Jump.

[Jason Moore]

Devontae Smith is sitting at 20 right now. There's a lot of room around A.J. brown being shopped.

[Andy Holloway]

I would put Tetaroa McMillan there, who's at 33. Yeah, he's low, but, you know, this is a very talented guy who's had so many great Flashes.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like you are the biggest tattoo McMillan fan in the world because you bring him up constantly as like you view him a lot higher than what he's doing so far.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I. Yes, I view him much higher than what he's done. And I think at the end of the season he will be coming through. I've seen enough on film to know he can get it done. We have history of even Bryce Young getting it done with Adam Thielen is a rookie. He's figuring it out on a mediocre offense. And you expect the second half of the year to be better than the first.

[Mike Wright]

Also Rasheed Rice. Yes, yes, I'll take him.

[Andy Holloway]

What is.

[Mike Wright]

Do you want Jefferson or Rice?

[Andy Holloway]

I would take Rice. I don't. I mean there's not many. There's not many people. I mean, he's not in this list because only two games played. But Rushy Rice right now.

[Jason Moore]

Offer that trade Mike is. Go offer that to Jefferson for Rice. You won't do it. See Deucer's Alley.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think they would do it.

[Jason Moore]

They would not trade Rice for Jefferson.

[Mike Wright]

No, because you have Patrick Mahomes balling out.

[Andy Holloway]

Rushy Rice is a great name to bring up. He's averaging 20.4 in his only two games. Super small sample. But as a reminder, number one, when we talked about wide receivers, was Puka and JSN tied at 18.6. So, yeah, I mean, Rushy Rice is currently the number one in points per game.

[Mike Wright]

And so. And then you would. So what's the average, jay?

[Andy Holloway]

You said 20.2. Is that what I said?

[Mike Wright]

And then if you tack that on his, the first three weeks of last year he was averaging 17.6. So that's a five game run of just being not good, being elite tight ends.

[Jason Moore]

Tucker crafts at number one, Trey McBride at number two. Dallas Goddard at number three, on pace for 16 spectacular rushing or receiving touchdowns. Jake Ferguson sitting at four, Tyler Warren at five. You know, from that group, if we are redoing this at the end of the season, it's like Kraft could easily be there. McBride could easily be there. Warren could easily be there. Yeah, I have my doubts that Goddard and Ferguson would be there, that's for sure. I was on the opposite side. I believe Kelsey's going to have a pretty significant second half compared to Jason's view of Kelsey. I still like Kelsey a lot. He's at six right now. Gadson's at seven with the points per game.

[Andy Holloway]

But over the last three games, when he's really Been utilized and the snaps have been there. He's averaging 16.8, which would be 2.8 higher than number one.

[Jason Moore]

If you have to rate your belief in Gadson rest of season, 100 is full. Maximum belief, 0 is I don't believe.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

What number?

[Andy Holloway]

I got my number.

[Jason Moore]

Are you at with Gadson for the rest of the season?

[Mike Wright]

I'm at 75.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh, we're very close. This is. We didn't talk about it in the wide receivers, but it's comical to me that wide receiver 17, wide receiver 18 and wide receiver 25, all in that exact same range as Keenan Allen, Quinn Johnston and Ladd McConkey. So you are going to have.

[Mike Wright]

Lad could jump up.

[Andy Holloway]

You're going to have bad games from Gadsden, but he is. He has established it. He's to going. He's very good.

[Jason Moore]

He's very good.

[Andy Holloway]

So is Lad. Yeah, very nice. All those guys are.

[Mike Wright]

Don't push it.

[Andy Holloway]

Talented wide receivers on a good offense. You just can't have all four. Be consistent.

[Jason Moore]

Darren Waller is at number eight, Kincaid at nine, Laporta ten, tied with Pitts there at 8.6. You know, I looked at the pits like game log the other day and I'm just like, yeah, all right. You know what I mean? Like, he's a player that you. If you started, he's not really murdering you, but he's never giving you anything special.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Outside that group, Brock Bowers is the obvious name that's going to be there. I think Fannin could definitely be there. Both those guys should probably pass a handful of the other names we mentioned.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And I'm also curious what happens with the Ravens tight end between Likely and Mark Andrews and whether they can become relevant when Lamar Jackson is playing.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. Let's talk some mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag, Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.

[Jason Moore]

All right. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com, click that submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB. Our first question here today comes from. Randy says, I've been offered a trade to give up Jamar Chase and I get jsn. JSN has already had his bye week and Chase is about to have his buy. Should I take this trade in week nine? Now I. I'm going to bring something up, man. There was a point in the season where Jamar Chase had Jake Browning as his quarterback and he had put up two or three horrific games and the idea of trading him for Cuuge was brought up on the show. And at the time, Cuje was the wide receiver three, I think. And it was like before he got hurt. Before he got hurt. And we didn't see a path for Chase to become good for the rest of the season with Browning. And so that we were thinking Q was probably a good decision at the time. You look at this situation, Jason's on top of the world. Jamar Chase has Joe Flacco. But I still look at it and say, hey, Jamar Chase has more volatility. And I have some fear that if Flacco's hurt, the odds of Flacco, he becomes nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

The odds of Flacco finishing the season with the current injury to the shoulder. Like you said, Andy, he gets tackled, you know, really hard. He's going to. At some point in time. Is he getting through the next, you know, eight weeks without re. Aggravating that injury and having Bradley's time? I would be really. I'd be really surprised. So.

[Jason Moore]

So what is your answer?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, this is JSN for me. The bye weeks. If both of them had the same bye week, I would rather take JSN over Jamar Chase.

[Jason Moore]

We're going into week nine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Is that right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So we're going into week nine. So 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and then playoffs. Right. So when you're after the. Buy six more games before the playoffs, six games of jsn, you get. And you get five of Chase and then it's. So to me, it's JSN as well.

[Mike Wright]

It.

[Jason Moore]

But it doesn't mean it's an easy call.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's not an easy call. It's JSN for me, too. It's the. It's everything. Is Flacco like if Joe Flacco, let's say he's good this weekend and then he just. And he manages to not get hurt if Flacco is there. Jamar Chase is better than jsn, I think points per game, but you're more. Your risk factor is much higher of something happening to Joe Flacco than Sam Darnold.

[Jason Moore]

Would you trade. This is a question from. I don't know what platform it is.

[Mike Wright]

It's from Log.

[Jason Moore]

Is that Logan?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Or is it Log?

[Andy Holloway]

That's Log in North Pack Alacki. It's better than bad. It's good. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Rolls downstairs and over the chairs.

[Jason Moore]

This is from the website. Would you trade away? Also your neighbor's dog, Ameca Abuka for Ash and Genti.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, this. I think it is a. I think it's a fair value.

[Jason Moore]

Mike said no.

[Mike Wright]

No, I would not.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. I mean, it's got to be in a vacuum. This is. Whenever you're talking about a running back for a.

[Jason Moore]

For a wide receiver, please don't question Mike again.

[Andy Holloway]

Obviously, this is a depth and a need situation. I do think that it's fair.

[Jason Moore]

That's the question.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, fair is fine.

[Jason Moore]

When trades like this happen. It's, you know, you have a lot of depth at running back and you don't have it at wide receiver or vice versa.

[Andy Holloway]

So, yeah, I could easily see myself being a team that trades away a Mecca Igbuka for Ash and Genti. I could easily see myself being a team that trades Ashan Genty away from. This is just an easy.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. Thank you. Do you think that there are people that trade. I think there are people that trade to get the better end of the deal, and there are people that trade and just want to make sure that they don't get taken. Sometimes the questions we get. We get so many trade questions. And a lot of the times you just want validation that that is fair, that I'm not getting taken advantage of or that I'm not getting the raw end of the. Because maybe you really want Ash and Genti. Well, this trade's fair. If you really want Astro, our trade.

[Andy Holloway]

Tool will help you. It is in development getting closer and closer by the minute. So if you are part of the foot [e-mail] then that tool will be able to answer those questions for you. From us. Without us.

[Jason Moore]

Isaac in Miami, would you rather have. Who would you rather have rest of the season, chase Brown or DeAndre Swift?

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, that's a.

[Jason Moore]

My first reaction is Swift.

[Andy Holloway]

That was my first. I think that that is fearful. Like, I agree with Mike that I would want Joe Flacco. The Joe Flacco looks great and this Bengals offense with their weapons, they can be great with Joe Flacco. But it does feel like a house of cards. It feels very fragile because we are relying on an older guy to sustain a football season while he's currently injured and has no offensive line in a.

[Jason Moore]

Tough division against tough divisional opponents. I see them very similarly in the fact that, like P. Ryan's getting snaps for Cincinnati, you have Manangai getting snaps for Chicago, you have an offense that we believe in with Flacco. We have seen a lot of good stuff with Swift.

[Mike Wright]

In three games, the three Joe Flacco games, Chase Brown is averaging 14.3 fantasy points, so. And we got almost 14 opportunities a game. And I think most importantly he where's the yards per carry? Yards per attempt is at seven. Well, you can, it's, it's crazy. Like you can't always go box score hunt and see things easily. You can see where Joe Flacco joined.

[Jason Moore]

The team after the bye week, which you guys have said maybe they figured out what to do with Swift. He's averaging 19.6 fantasy points a game. I think the answer is 6.7 an attempt. It's wild. Crazy. Yeah, I think they're very similar but I again risk aversion a little bit, which is a crazy thing to say with DeAndre Swift.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Tim in Sacramento says, hey guys, give me the argument to convince my league mates to change our IR rules. Currently a player has to officially be on the IR to be able to be placed on the fantasy ir. Their argument is if it's not a team's IR then he can't be on yours. My argument is currently that is dumb.

[Mike Wright]

It's strong. It's a good starting point to say.

[Jason Moore]

That'S dumb because it is. I mean if the purpose of an IR spot, let's start there, is to give a roster the flexibility if your league desires to manage injury and if you have to cut players or not have enough players on your bench, it's a choice. Right? You can make that choice in your league. I think we all find that to be not as fun, not as enjoyable. If a player goes to out or soon, doubtful or out, we think you should be able to go stash them in that spot. If they become active in that spot, you are locked out of doing anything on your roster until you fix your roster and make it right.

[Andy Holloway]

So well and that's self regulating. That's the crux is that it has to still be a platform based automation. So like I know on Sleeper you can check the box that says doubtful players can be allowed in ir. You can't just be like because even if you've turned that feature on, you can't see a report that says I don't think this player's playing this week but he's not even moved to doubtful and be like ah, I should be able to put him there. It can't just be a anytime you want. But yes, the we tried in our league of record we tried to push that through mid season. We don't really do that very often. It just, it's got to the point where yeah, if they're doubtful they almost never play. And the entire purpose of the IR is to give yourself that freedom when you lose a player and you've lost them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. That's the thing is injuries. Injuries of fantasy football are the. It's the worst. It's the worst. And it will happen to every single person who plays fantasy football. You will have someone that you love and someone that you're counting on get hurt. And if a. If a bench is like five players, it's. It's. To me, it's like a double punishment. Like, you don't get that guy, and now you're hamstrung of. What are you going to do? Well, you only have four bench spots now because you can't move that player to ir. So to me, it's just about trying to alleviate injuries the most that we can.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they already suck so bad.

[Mike Wright]

And having. And just having grace for each other as fantasy football players. I'm not like, oh, yeah. Oh, man. You see, Andy got his guy's hurt. Ha ha. That sucks to be you. Yeah, yeah, we know it sucks. Don't.

[Jason Moore]

It already sucks. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Don't double punish people.

[Jason Moore]

Ryan in North Carolina, is it fair to accept the trade after a player in the trade gets injured?

[Mike Wright]

Is it fear? It's disgusting.

[Andy Holloway]

You cannot do that. Not with. Not unless, obviously, if both sides. If you find a trade an injured player, like, away or trade for them, that's fine. But is absolutely. If a trade offer was made and then a player gets injured and it was just sitting there, and then you accept it.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

I had that situation in. In our listener league. I had an offer where Jaden Daniels and Rushy Rice for Josh Allen and they were sitting there. I hadn't accepted it or declined it, and Jaden Daniels got injured. I would never have been like, ha, ha. Gotcha, Gotcha, sucker. That's. That's pure bush league.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Can't do it. All right.

[Mike Wright]

Also, that. That is a psa. Avoid this.

[Jason Moore]

Don't let them hang.

[Mike Wright]

Do not let trade offers be sitting for players who are actively playing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, pull them down on Sunday.

[Mike Wright]

We get tweets on this all the time of the. Hey, this just got accepted and this guy got hurt. And it's like, because you now have. Because you didn't prevent it, you have created a terrible problem where someone's going to feel like they got hosed.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. No, it's completely true. All right. That was today's mailbag. Watch every game, Every Sunday with NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV. Visit YouTube.com fantasy footballers. Local and national games on YouTube TV, NFL Sunday Ticket for out of market games. Base plan required. Excludes digital only games. Commercial use excluded. No refund. That'll do it for today's episode of the podcast. Thank you for following the show, supporting the show, leaving those wonderful reviews. I forgot to mention it at the top. We are giving away a signed James Cook jersey right now. A bit of a listener appreciation giveaway. You can go over to footclan giveaway.com enter for free and we'll give away a signed James Cook jersey coming fresh off of his 216 yard performance. And tomorrow we'll get into starts of the week, more matchups, Halloween show on Friday and the Wheel of Shame, which is awesome. I love the Wheel of Shame. It's so fun. We'll catch you then. Thank you for tuning in. Enjoy the day. Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Wanna try the cheese pull? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I can't believe you get this.

[Jason Moore]

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