NFL Draft Breakdown: AFC Winners & Losers

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Title: NFL Draft Breakdown: AFC Winners & Losers
Release Date: May 2, 2019

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1. Introduction and Community Updates (00:00 – 03:35)

The episode kicks off with the hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, engaging in their signature banter. They discuss their dedication to the podcast, with humorous exchanges about subscriptions and personal anecdotes. Jason Moore announces that it’s his birthday, leading to playful teasing from Andy and Mike. The hosts also highlight their community resources available on fantasyfootballers.com, emphasizing the extensive content and supportive community forums.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Moore [05:22]: "Happy birthday. Oh, you're darn right. My birthday wish is to see you in New York, Phoenix, Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco."

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2. News and Notes (07:26 – 08:38)

The hosts delve into significant NFL news, including the injury of Raiders running back Isaiah Crowell, who tore his Achilles and is out for the season. They discuss the implications for fantasy football, particularly Crowell’s long-term value, and the signing of Spencer Ware by the Colts. The conversation touches on the diminishing prospects for running backs recovering from Achilles injuries, citing historical examples.

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway [09:21]: "Do you see any type of way where this isn't the end of Isaiah Crowell's career?"
• Jason Moore [09:43]: "He will not be on my roster in the morning."

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3. AFC Draft Winners & Losers (13:40 – 63:56)

The core of the episode focuses on analyzing AFC teams' performances in the NFL draft, identifying which moves are poised to benefit or hinder fantasy football enthusiasts. Below is a breakdown by team:

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a. Buffalo Bills (14:11 – 16:35)

Draft Moves:

• Selection of Devin Singletary in the third round to reinforce the running back depth alongside LaShawn McCoy and Frank Gore.

Analysis: Andy expresses skepticism about Singletary’s long-term impact, citing the Hall of Fame struggles of running backs with similar injuries. Jason, however, holds a more positive view, especially for dynasty leagues.

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway [14:35]: "Devin Singletary could be a meaningful piece in a couple of years."

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b. Miami Dolphins (16:35 – 19:04)

Draft Moves:

• Acquisition of quarterback Josh Rosen and considerations regarding Ryan Fitzpatrick’s role and potential trade.

Analysis: The hosts debate whether Rosen will secure the starting position or be traded, as well as the implications for the Dolphins’ offensive strategy. They discuss the stability of running backs like Kenyan Drake and Caleb Belanger.

Notable Quote:

• Mike Wright [18:58]: "I took the under with Miami. I've done it before and they failed me, though."

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c. New York Jets (19:57 – 20:57)

Draft Moves:

• Selection of a tight end in the fourth round and speculation about potential trades involving running backs Jamal Adams and Cole Henderson.

Analysis: Andy and Jason evaluate the Jets’ efforts to bolster their wide receiver and running back positions, expressing mixed feelings about the depth and potential impact of new additions.

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway [20:15]: "They want to add some speed. They were unable to do so."

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d. New England Patriots (20:52 – 24:35)

Draft Moves:

• Selection of Nikhil Harry in the final pick to maintain depth at wide receiver despite holding seven early draft picks.

Analysis: The Patriots are praised for keeping Nikhil Harry, who is expected to thrive in their high-powered offense post-Gronkowski. Discussions highlight the balance between veteran performance and rookie potential.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Moore [21:47]: "I think it's a great landing spot for him."

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e. Kansas City Chiefs (26:14 – 33:09)

Draft Moves:

• Trading up to select rookie wide receiver Mecole Hardman and addressing running back depth with Damian Williams and Carlos Hyde.

Analysis: The Chiefs are seen as strong winners for securing Mecole Hardman to complement Tyreek Hill, despite the potential diminishing role of Hill. The running back situation is optimistic, focusing on Williams and Hyde as key contributors.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright [26:21]: "He deserves to be highly considered in your rookie drafts."
• Jason Moore [31:51]: "He's going to be very hard pressed to be valuable for fantasy."

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f. Oakland Raiders (34:26 – 39:56)

Draft Moves:

• Selection of running back Josh Jacobs in the first round and adding receivers Josh Renfro.

Analysis: Josh Jacobs is celebrated as a solid addition to the Raiders’ backfield, potentially increasing the team’s offensive versatility. The commitment to quarterback Derek Carr is debated, considering his current performance and future prospects.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Moore [37:38]: "He's got a job. Not only does he have a job, it's a pretty good job."

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g. Baltimore Ravens (40:28 – 43:57)

Draft Moves:

• Baltimore Ravens draft wide receiver Hollywood Brown and discuss Lamar Jackson's role as a fantasy asset.

Analysis: The acquisition of Hollywood Brown is scrutinized for its fantasy value, with mixed opinions on his potential contribution. Lamar Jackson's rushing ability is highlighted as a significant plus for fantasy owners.

Notable Quote:

• Mike Wright [42:34]: "He is one of the eight undrafted free agents that you need to pay attention to in 2019."

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h. Cincinnati Bengals (48:56 – 55:07)

Draft Moves:

• Focus on enhancing the offensive line with first-round draft picks and reinforcing the wide receiver corps.

Analysis: The Bengals’ strategic picks in the offensive line are praised for supporting Joe Mixon and Andy Dalton. However, certain receivers like James Washington are deemed less valuable due to increased competition.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Moore [54:24]: "I prefer him [James Washington] prior to them having Deontay Johnson, but I don't think that that's the whole picture."

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i. Houston Texans (55:29 – 57:56)

Draft Moves:

• Signing of running back Lamar Miller and discussions on offensive upgrades.

Analysis: Lamar Miller is seen as a veteran presence who can bolster the Texans’ running game, while concerns remain about younger players’ consistency and development.

Notable Quote:

• Mike Wright [56:56]: "He led the entire running back class in just saying bench reps."

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j. Indianapolis Colts (57:56 – 60:46)

Draft Moves:

• First-round selection of cornerback Dwayne Johnson and wide receiver Paris Campbell in the second round.

Analysis: The Colts are commended for reinforcing their secondary and wide receiver depth. Marlon Mack emerges as the standout fantasy asset, expected to flourish alongside Spencer Ware.

Notable Quote:

• Andy Holloway [59:32]: "Marlon Mack is by a mile, the biggest winner for the Colts."

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k. Jacksonville Jaguars (60:46 – 63:56)

Draft Moves:

• Selection of offensive tackle Jason’s favorite defensive player, Josh Allen, and investment in the offensive line to support Leonard Fournette.

Analysis: The Jaguars are seen as improving their offensive line, which should enhance Leonard Fournette’s performance. The stability in the quarterback position is expected to positively impact fantasy outcomes.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Moore [60:44]: "I'm drafting a lot of Marla Mack this year."

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4. Final Thoughts and Promotions (63:40 – End)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts announce winners from their Ultimate Draft Kit giveaway and promote their upcoming Ballers Live live podcasts in various cities. They encourage listeners to engage with their community and continue supporting the podcast.

Notable Quote:

• Mike Wright [63:43]: "Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for supporting. ballerslive.com get your tickets."

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Key Takeaways:

• Running Back Depth: Injuries like Isaiah Crowell’s Achilles tear significantly impact dynasty and redraft leagues, emphasizing the importance of scouting durable and high-upside backs.

• Wide Receiver Investments: Teams investing in wide receivers like Mecole Hardman and Hollywood Brown present both opportunities and risks for fantasy owners based on their integration into high-powered offenses.

• Quarterback Stability: Securing reliable quarterbacks, whether veterans like Derek Carr or newer acquisitions like Josh Rosen, remains crucial for team performance and fantasy relevance.

• Draft Strategy Insights: The Fantasy Footballers provide nuanced analysis on draft choices, encouraging fantasy owners to consider both immediate and long-term impacts of NFL teams’ decisions.

Final Quote:

• Andy Holloway [64:12]: "Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast."

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This episode provides comprehensive insights into the AFC teams' draft strategies, helping fantasy football enthusiasts make informed decisions for their leagues. The hosts balance humor with expert analysis, making complex NFL moves accessible and engaging.

Transcript

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I'm there with you.

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Thursday, May 2nd. We have the AFC winners and losers from the NFL draft on the show today. We've got news and notes. We got a lot going on. You can find us on Twitter. The FFballers, I believe. Brooks, do you have a count on how many articles went up on the website in the month of April?

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's pretty close to 30.

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[Andy Holloway]

Well, I am sorry it's closer to 50.

[Mike Wright]

Closer to 50?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say 30 seemed low from what I've been reading, but.

[Andy Holloway]

If it were not 50 and not 60 and it was somewhere in between, like 52. No, a little bit higher.

[Mike Wright]

55.

[Jason Moore]

55.

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All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Not forced at all.

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No, not at all.

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Yes. And the lyrics were. I don't know them. Something about Gasolina.

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[Jason Moore]

Hey, look, Bookland. Today is my birthday.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, happy birthday.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

He was baiting that.

[Jason Moore]

Happy birthday. Oh, you're darn right. My birthday wish is to see you in New York, Phoenix, Chicago, Los Angeles, and. And San Francisco.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you did it.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

How do you feel? How do you feel, mister? What 37 years old.

[Andy Holloway]

You are way past your life expectancy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I feel like I'm already in the plus. I'm in. I'm in the plus territory. This is all gravy.

[Andy Holloway]

Plus. That's what they call it.

[Mike Wright]

Just leave it there. You're in the plus in more ways.

[Andy Holloway]

It's my birthday, kid.

[Jason Moore]

You're fat. Shaming me.

[Mike Wright]

Listen. Okay, hold on. Let's come clean for a second. Sometimes it seems like we make one or two excessive jokes on the show at Jason's expense. But I want people to understand. When I walked into the studio this morning, there was one man here, and it was Jason. Actually, that's not two. Brooks, I think, was here.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks is always here.

[Mike Wright]

But Jason was alone in the office, and he looked like a. Like a dead man.

[Jason Moore]

I felt like a dead man.

[Mike Wright]

Just a corpse.

[Jason Moore]

It was not good.

[Mike Wright]

And the reason was is because he celebrated his birthday the worst way you can with a late night Postmates of Jack in the Box, full menu.

[Jason Moore]

This isn't even. Like, I'm not even shooting for the.

[Mike Wright]

Stars here, so it's kind of hard to, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

What time did this happen?

[Jason Moore]

So. So what you're saying is I deserve it.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not saying no.

[Jason Moore]

I hear you loud and clear.

[Mike Wright]

I deserve it.

[Andy Holloway]

What time did you order Jack in the Box?

[Jason Moore]

It was only, like, eight. I could have just drove right across the street, but I'm like, it's my birthday.

[Andy Holloway]

Had you eaten dinner yet?

[Jason Moore]

Of course I had. Don't be stupid.

[Mike Wright]

So this fourth meal, you don't deserve it. You don't deserve it, but you do set the table.

[Jason Moore]

I welcome it.

[Mike Wright]

No more ways than what?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, what is happening.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league presented by Sleeper.

[Mike Wright]

Lifelong friends. Lifelong friends. Happy 37.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks. I'll be dead.

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[Jason Moore]

I hope it's a box of donuts.

[Mike Wright]

All right. News and notes from Sleeper. Adam Schefter reporting that the Raiders running back, newly signed Isaiah Crowell, he tore his Achilles in practice. He is out for the season. I received some fantasy reaper notes on this one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I believe live on the show, you dropped Chris Warren.

[Andy Holloway]

I did.

[Mike Wright]

I did. Live cut. Chris Warren.

[Jason Moore]

Was that on our live stream?

[Mike Wright]

As we all said?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't remember.

[Mike Wright]

No, it was on the show on Tuesday. We all said that he wasn't worthwhile.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, that is correct.

[Mike Wright]

And that was the nail in the coffin for Isaiah Crowell. No, this, this sucks for Isaiah Cruel. Obviously the, the news right afterwards was that Krampus is returning. Doug Martin is signing a deal to return to the Raiders.

[Andy Holloway]

And let's just talk real quick about value, long term value of Isaiah Crowell. I have him on some dynasty teams. He was only able to find a one year deal this offseason after being cut by the New York jets in his mid-20s. And running backs just don't come back from an Achilles tear. Look how long they've been waiting for. Deontay Foreman, Mikel la. Sure. I mean, you can go on and on with names of guys who have ruptured the Achilles, torn the Achilles, however you want to say it, and they just don't come back. Do you see any type of world where this isn't the end of Isaiah Cruel's career?

[Mike Wright]

No, not really. Because you don't just as a dynasty owner, you don't just need a guy to recover. You need a guy to recover and be signed and be relevant. He has to be on a team where he would get carries and be influential. There were question marks about that this year already. They drafted Josh Jacobs. Isaiah Crowell was probably just a handcuff this year before the injury. Do you agree with that, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, 100%. I mean, I've got Crowell in the league that we had a startup dynasty draft in this season. He will not be on my roster in the morning.

[Mike Wright]

The Colts have signed. You sure? Not right now. Not right now here on the show.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, if Chris Warren's getting a.

[Jason Moore]

Cut, I'll live cut him.

[Mike Wright]

Do you feel a little more compassion because of how Crowell went down?

[Andy Holloway]

I like Crowell. I mean, the guy is a, it's a success story.

[Mike Wright]

I think it would only be appropriate to life cut him. That's all I'm saying. The Colts have signed Spencer ware to a one year, $1.3 million contract. It's interesting to me only because they kind of kicked the tires on a number of running backs this offseason, including Jay Ajayi. Apparently they settled on Spencer Ware. This is great news from all the Mac.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's a. This is more of an indictment on Jordan Wilkins. They don't think that he can be the proper backup or the proper depth piece. So it'll be Marlon Mack and Nahim Hines to be the primary guys.

[Mike Wright]

It's great news for Marlon Mack.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's. I agree. I think it's great news for him.

[Mike Wright]

Someone like Jaya Johnny. Even though it wasn't likely if you signed him. He has more talent and ability at this age of his career. Assuming his knees hold up that you know he was an influential player. He had big, big plays.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

He would have been more of a threat to every down work than Spencer Whale will be to Marlon Mack. And is Naim Heinz being undervalued?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I know Brooks, I know Brooks would say yes. He is a big Hines fan.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, after we had we dug in, we all really like Marlon Mack. We decided that he's my guy, one of my guys for this year. Jason was really on board with that. Looking at, looking back at the target volume. Marlon Mack is not catching any passes. They're all going to Hines at the.

[Mike Wright]

Running back position and it'll be a good offense. It's an offense in a team that I just went through and did all my over unders on win totals. I think you know I took the over. I took the over for the Colts as well. All right. The 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan suggests the third round wide receiver, rookie Jalen Hurd could eventually move to tight end. He talked about Jalen hurt a lot yesterday. We talked about Debo Samuel and Herd on the Tuesday NFC winners and losers. What are you guys thoughts about Hurd?

[Jason Moore]

I think he's just a really talented multifaceted player. He was, he's 65 yet was a thousand yard rusher and then he goes to wide receiver. Moving him to tight end. I don't think that that's an indictment. They're not going to have him in line blocking. That's just saying he's basically a fifth wide receiver on the field and you know, I think he's just a talented guy. He's not going to be. The problem is he's low in the pecking order. Right. He's behind Pettis, he's behind Kittle, he's behind Debo. So you know there's, there's offenses where you can go three deep but going four deep is really difficult.

[Mike Wright]

All right, that was today's news and notes. Be sure to switch your Dynasty league over to sleep or download the app. Today we're going to get into AFC winners and losers. Before we do that, I do want to announce the big ultimate draft Kit promo. There were four winners from that big giveaway that ended on the last day of the NFL draft. And I want to give a shout out to Tim. Tim, do we have. We don't have their whole name on here, bro.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, but you don't want it. You can't give a full name when people are getting prizes.

[Mike Wright]

Like, you can do it. No, because yes, you can.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't get doxxed. People will look them up.

[Mike Wright]

There are gonna be other Tim M's out there that think they won.

[Jason Moore]

There's a really cut. There's a lot of Tim M's getting.

[Andy Holloway]

Excited, but there's only one Tim M who got an email from Papa Josh.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Tim M, Joseph C, Rusty M and Nick L. Ooh.

[Andy Holloway]

Tim and Rusty are probably brothers because they do share.

[Mike Wright]

Congratulations. The Tim won the listener league spot. The VIP tickets to the show went to Joseph, and then the jerseys. One to Rusty, one to Nick. Congratulations, guys, on the big wins and we'll be doing more giveaways all off season. Let's go ahead and let's jump in.

[Jason Moore]

We're gonna win. We're gonna win.

[Mike Wright]

All right, AFC winners and losers, if you missed the NFC show, just click click the episode right below this one on your podcast app. By the way, we appreciate everybody who has subscribed on Apple podcast. It leaves us reviews on there. It helps support this show. Let's get into it. The Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills went out and further muddied the running back waters in the NFL draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Very strange.

[Mike Wright]

Devin Singletary, one of the players that was kind of a combine disappointment, highly productive in college lands in Buffalo. They came out and they affirmed LaShawn McCoy as the starter on this team. The team also has Frank Gore, has T.J. yelden. I believe they're trying to unlock an achievement. If you have five running backs that could all play, I think, I think you get a bonus point or something.

[Andy Holloway]

Like 25 to your gamer score.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay. Is that what it is?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, it's on Madden.

[Mike Wright]

How do people feel about Devin Singletary, the selection here? It's a third round pick. It seems like the Sean McCoy is not long for the Buffalo Bills, even if he is the primary guy this year. Frank Gore is not long for the NFL. Singletary could be a meaningful piece in a couple of years.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was really hoping Singletary went to a team that had an offensive head coach. He did not, but he did go to a team that has the player he is most commonly comped to in front of him. Devin Singletary earned a lot of Lashawn McCoy comps. So if they're looking at him as a Lashawn McCoy replacement because they know that they can't have Lashawn McCoy of yesteryear tomorrow, so maybe you Know, this is a, in a dynasty league. I've got him ranked a little higher, I believe, than you guys.

[Andy Holloway]

McCoy is, as they say, in the plus, right?

[Jason Moore]

He's in the plus life. Yeah, but where does that put Frank Gore? Oh, Frank Gore's in heaven. He's already, he's, he's in heaven right now.

[Mike Wright]

He looped all the way. He already reincarnated winners and losers from the draft. I mean all the running backs lose from the selection of a high draft. Capital running back, yardy. Didn't really feel confident with McCoy or any of those guys. We just talked about the mess there. I do think by mid season you probably have a guy you can start in Buffalo. I do believe that. That being said, their quarterback, Josh Allen, he runs the ball a lot himself. Was he a winner in this draft?

[Jason Moore]

You know, they got. Cody Ford is a good draft. I like him, so that helps. I mean, Buffalo did not have a good offensive line last year. So yeah, I would say he's an, he's an upgrade.

[Mike Wright]

I would say Robert Foster was a winner in this draft. Robert Foster is basically lined up outside at this point, locked in. They could have gone with another wide receiver to compliment John Brown. Cole Beasley. Foster should start and I think that matters. Foster's a burner. He had some good rapport. Josh Allen last year. Any other players, any other losers on this roster because of the draft?

[Andy Holloway]

No. Well, we'll just, we'll see if Shady's on the team when the league year starts, you think, or when the season starts.

[Mike Wright]

Question. I do. All right. The Miami Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins, they did acquire Josh Rosen in a trade. And one of the more interesting things that I have paid attention to is whether or not Ryan Fitzpatrick will actually be on this roster. Ryan Fitzpatrick had very interesting, very minimal guaranteed money. And there is an argument to be made that while he signed an 11 year, 2 year deal, 11 million, 2 year deal, only 1.5 million was guaranteed in that deal. And there's a train of thought that they need to put Rosen out there for the duration of the season to see what they have as to whether or not they have to draft a quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

He would still be a $7 million dead cap head if they cut him.

[Mike Wright]

Not if they trade him. And there's potential for injury, things like that. And if you read what's going on in Miami, there have been some talk about this. The team would rather see what they have in Josh Rosen because they could be in contention for TUA or some of the top quarterbacks next year. They probably will be, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Rosen's getting traded next year.

[Mike Wright]

Well, not if he performs. If he shows something on the field.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, if they have a top three pick next year. Josh Rose is getting traded because they're going to take one of these top quarterbacks from next. Next season. That's. That's my belief. As far as who was really helped this year in Miami, No.

[Mike Wright]

Kenyan Drake. Everyone who was Ken Drake, Caleb Belage, any of the core. All of the wide receivers and running backs that you thought weren't good enough this year to start in Miami will be starting.

[Andy Holloway]

Trust the process.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but we're not. I mean, are you drafting any wide receiver?

[Andy Holloway]

Albert Wilson. I'll take a flyer on.

[Mike Wright]

It's hard for me to say that because he's coming back from the injury.

[Andy Holloway]

I get it. But this is flyer. This is my last positional pick.

[Jason Moore]

He'll be there.

[Andy Holloway]

What's that?

[Jason Moore]

I said he'll be there. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I think Kenyan Drake has a pretty solid year based on the fact that they didn't go out and find somebody else to, you know, him and Bellange. That's all it's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

You still are on Team Drake or.

[Mike Wright]

I'm on Team Drake. I like Kayla and Blodge, but I'm on Team Drake to start the year for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Both guys will probably have an opportunity. I would say Ryan Fitzpatrick lost. Even if he's on the roster and he's starting, he didn't get any other weapons. So it's going to be let's the over unders in Vegas. The win totals. I took the under with Miami.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I've done it before and they failed, though. And they've, you know, they.

[Andy Holloway]

They failed by winning too many games.

[Mike Wright]

They failed me. They failed me.

[Andy Holloway]

You're such a disappointment winner.

[Mike Wright]

I think Dolphins fans, unlike years past, they know what they're in for this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Certainly.

[Jason Moore]

Certainly they have a plan. They want 2020 to be their Dolphins. I have a plan.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Is that ghetto?

[Jason Moore]

It involves Tahiti.

[Mike Wright]

What if Dave Gettleman took over as the commissioner of the National Football League at some point?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my good.

[Mike Wright]

What kind of stuff would happen with the third pick? Come on.

[Jason Moore]

It's me, Dave. I draft myself.

[Mike Wright]

Daniel Jones.

[Jason Moore]

How many running backs are in this draft?

[Mike Wright]

All right, we're moving on. The New York Jets. The New York jets, winners and losers that you take away from this draft. A tackle in the first round and end in the second round or I'm sorry, in the third.

[Andy Holloway]

Same. It's the Same thing as the Dolphins. They went pretty much status quo. I mean, they took a tight end in the fourth round, but it's, it's still Herndon locked in to be the up and comer at that position. And there was word, whispers from the bushes that the jets were trying to trade up for me, Cole, Henderson.

[Mike Wright]

What about Harmon?

[Andy Holloway]

Harmon? Thank you. I want Darrell Henderson and me, Cole in the same player. But the Chiefs beat him to the punch. So we know at least that the jets wanted to add some speed. They were unable to do so. So I think that Robbie Anderson and Quincy and Unwell are the, the big winners. I don't really care about Crowder.

[Mike Wright]

Would you have liked to see them add somebody else for Darnold's sake?

[Andy Holloway]

I, I mean, if you're, when you're talking, you're adding a 4:3 wide receiver, sure. I would like to see that happen. But I think that their wide receiver core is definitely competent enough for moving forward.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's move on to the New England Patriots, who had nine picks in the first five rounds, seven in the first four, and spent the first one for the second year in a row on an offensive player. Last year with Sony Michelle in the first round. This year with the final pick, Nikhil Harry.

[Andy Holloway]

You jerks.

[Mike Wright]

And Nikki jerks. Because the Cardinals had the next pick and we, we like, we wanted to keep him here in Arizona.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I will say I'm okay with it because at least you kept Nikhil Harry fantasy relevant.

[Mike Wright]

Nikhil Harry, a winner to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Big, huge winner, big time.

[Mike Wright]

With how many wide receivers went to questionable landing spots as rookies? Nikhil Harry ends up in New England with a plethora of opportunity. You have Julian Edelman, no one really on the outside. Hogan is gone. Gronkowski, a red zone threat, gone. Nikhil Harry could have very solid.

[Andy Holloway]

Nikhil Harry could have 10 touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, and Nikhil Harry, he's, you know, people have pointed out how good he is from the slot and if they're losing Gronk, who's running from the edge or in, you know, that slot area, they could end up deploying him downfield often like they did with Gronk. I think it's a great landing spot for him. I also think it's a good landing spot as far as for the player. More, more than a lot of people do for Damien Harris, the running back out of Alabama. But that is not good news to me for Sony Michelle. I've looked up the splits between Sony Michelle, when Rex Burkhead was active, and playing and when Rex Burkhead wasn't and they are almost double. I mean, when Rex Burkhead was gone, Sony got a ton more work. Obviously Sony has the need.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you contextualize those for when Sony was.

[Jason Moore]

No. So I realized.

[Mike Wright]

I don't go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

I realized it was rookie season. He's still getting into the flow of things. So later in the year they're using him differently with or without Blurkhead than they would have.

[Mike Wright]

Was that Blurkhead?

[Jason Moore]

Blurkhead. But the point is.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Blurkhead.

[Jason Moore]

Paul Blurkhead, Mall cop.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

But the thing is, is I think Dean Harris comes in. How much were you excited for Rex Burkhead last season? The season before that, the season before that.

[Andy Holloway]

Very last season, moderately excited.

[Jason Moore]

But you were talking about how now.

[Andy Holloway]

You'Re calling him a mall cop.

[Jason Moore]

You were talking last season about how.

[Mike Wright]

Lurked all over he.

[Jason Moore]

He was a red zone option and he was very good in the red zone and that they would use him in replacement of Sony. I think that they're going to have a good one two punch with Damian Harris and Sony, but that's not good news for the people like Andy. You've been all about Sony up until the draft. I don't know if it's changed for you or not, but you were talking Sony as pretty much a low end one.

[Mike Wright]

No, it hasn't changed for me. Really? The confidence they showed in Sony on their path to a Super bowl last year was what I needed to see. My excitement for him was based on that. I don't read much into the splits. One, because Burkhead has been very inconsistently available to the Patriots in general and two, because rookie running backs should take time to be involved and he was hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

But do you read into a third round running back when you got seven.

[Mike Wright]

Picks in the first four rounds? Not as much. I think Damian Harris is a really good player. Mike. You and I both like him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's excellent.

[Mike Wright]

That being said, I think you have to have depth for Sonny Michelle. Sonny Michelle was banged up last year. He was hurt multiple times.

[Andy Holloway]

You had depth. You had the mall cop Blurkehead.

[Jason Moore]

Who wants to have.

[Andy Holloway]

He's on his segue.

[Jason Moore]

He has never been healthy.

[Mike Wright]

Look, because he doesn't use the segue enough.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we get a petition that Rex Blurkhead is allowed to use a Segway on the field?

[Jason Moore]

Remember when he was goat head? Now he's Blurket.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not sure there's a worse name than Blurket. There's not when I say it. It makes me really sad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you feel stupid.

[Mike Wright]

Damien Harris is pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

This podcast sucks.

[Mike Wright]

All right, any other winners and losers you want to call out from the offensive side of the ball?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean Brady, because he gets to kill Harry, but not enough that I want Tom Brady anywhere near my fantasy teams.

[Mike Wright]

All right. The Denver Broncos use their first draft pick on Noah Fant.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes.

[Mike Wright]

Heralded, athletic tight end. We know that Joe Flacco adores throwing the ball to as many tight ends as possible.

[Andy Holloway]

Or just one. Just one.

[Mike Wright]

If he could throw it to two on one play, he would.

[Jason Moore]

He would. But I think you're referencing when Dennis Petta shockingly led the league at the tight end position. Receptions.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, you've seen that. Does no offense start from day one? Does he have an opportunity in the passing game?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, probably yes. Yes to all of the above.

[Mike Wright]

Sutton and Hamilton didn't get any competition. Six round wide receiver, that was it. Out of Colorado, Juwan Winfrey. But basically the incumbent. Sutton, Hamilton, Freeman and Lindsey, that's going to be your offense in Denver this year.

[Jason Moore]

And I will say this. I know Drew Locke fell in the draft isn't great, but from a Dynasty perspective, I do like the fact I think Drew Locke could be groomed into a decent player. I don't. I'm not calling that he will be. But at least there's something behind Flacco because my worry for Sutton, my worry for Daeshun Hamilton has been, look, I don't think Joe Flacco is going to be the answer. And so in Dynasty, where they've got good value as second year wide receivers, I've been more down on them. I like that there's at least someone there now.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's move on Kansas City. This will be a fun one to talk about.

[Andy Holloway]

Who could have been a big winner for the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Mike Wright]

I believe Nicole Hardman. I was gonna say Jason. And I want to talk about me, Cole Hardman.

[Andy Holloway]

I would love to talk about it.

[Mike Wright]

We'll wait. We'll save your Damian Williams victory lap of sorts. Whatever you want to call it, even if it's warrant, it's warranted. But we'll talk about me. Cole Hardman first. Me, Cole Hardman, drafted in the second round, traded up for by the Kansas City Chiefs. They gave up their second rounder and a fifth rounder next year to move up five spots to select Mikol Hardman ahead of the Jets. Hardman is a burner big play specialist. He's taller than Tyreek Hill. But he does profile as what Kansas City needs. If they don't have Tyreek Hill, which is someone to run as fast as they can so that when Patrick Mahomes uses the cannon, somebody's there to catch it on the other end. It's rare for a rookie to have the opportunity to walk into an offense, potentially start on the outside with an MVP quarterback that just threw 50 touchdowns. That's what he has before him. Whether he delivers on that promise, I don't know, but he deserves to be highly considered in your rookie drafts.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I 100% agree. And it's Andy Reid knew this, that the Mahomes is incredible. He's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the league for a long time. But Andy Reid knew the key to this offense was there was speed. Because if you take. If you take the burner away and you're left with Watkins, who can be a possession guy, Travis Kelsey, who can also be a possession guy. You lost Chris Conley to free agency. If you don't have the speed, this offense will not be nearly as high powered as it was last year.

[Jason Moore]

That's something I wanted to point out. I. So we're talking about me, Cole Hardman, as you know, he is a winner. But the reality is the drafting of Miko Hardman is essentially admitting that Tyreek is not going to be on the team. It's swapping out Tyreek. That's how we're all viewing it, at least right now. Am I correct to say that we're all viewing. Okay, so if that's the case, then Pat Mahomes is a loser here.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Jason Moore]

And the entire offense, from what that monstrous offense was last year, is they take a slight down, he's a loser.

[Mike Wright]

From the perspective of losing Tyreek, he's not a. Look, he'd be a bigger loser if they didn't draft a wide receiver 100%.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, me, Cole is great for Pat Mahomes losing, but we can't say that me, Cole Hardman is just going to come in and be Tyreek. I mean, he had 35 receptions last year in college. This is a guy who's very fast. He's not as good a route runner, doesn't have the same hands. We haven't seen the toughness yet that Tyreek showed on the field at that size. So, you know, I do see Sammy Watkins as a winner and Travis Kelsey as a winner, just from a standpoint of they are all the more important to the offense. And then we could talk about running backs.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if I view them as winners because I don't necessarily see the volume, the target volume going up for them.

[Mike Wright]

Demarcus Robinson would be a loser in this situation because he had an opportunity with Tyreek being gone. Hardman was drafted ahead of our Sega Whiteside, ahead of Paris Campbell, head of Andy Isabella, ahead of DK Metcalf to speak to Mike's point.

[Andy Holloway]

And they should have taken Paris.

[Mike Wright]

They were filling their need and they believed that Hardman offered. I mean they moved up to get Hardman over a guy like Paris Campbell. So.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. And this is a team they didn't have. I mean they sort of filled some defensive needs with their first round pick trading for Frank Clark. But that's where they had problems. It was on the defense and they said, oh crap, now we have a bigger problem at the wide receiver position.

[Jason Moore]

And that's part of why in this draft the Kansas City Chiefs were not able to pay high capital to get a running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Here we go.

[Jason Moore]

No, I mean that's just the case. They traded picks. They had to use one on two on me, Cole Harmon and so.

[Mike Wright]

So you're saying in a perfect world they really would have wanted to get a big running.

[Jason Moore]

I believe that that is true.

[Andy Holloway]

This is.

[Jason Moore]

Jason still spent a six rounder on.

[Andy Holloway]

His bedtime story as he goes to sleep to to shake off the the shadows and the demons that Damian Williams is about to become.

[Mike Wright]

Damian Williams is locked and loaded and here's, here's the, the reality of the situation. They did not draft a high draft capital running back. They are a team scrambling to fix the wide receiver position. Damian Williams and Carlos Hyde are both winners from this NFL draft without question, without question that is going to be the, the backbone of the offense at the running back position. Those two guys. I still think there's an opportunity for Hyde to make his mark in training camp. And I still think if you're a Damian Williams owner, you need to keep your eyes open. Or if you're a prospective owner. Not really. If you're already an owner, you're an owner.

[Andy Holloway]

But hold on tight.

[Mike Wright]

A prospective redraft owner needs to look at that situation and adjust what they want to spend on Damian Williams based on training camp.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I think that you can also say if you're, if you're already an owner, do you capitalize on the value that he is the perceived clear starter? Because I would. I still think the long term, the dynasty value is not there in redraft. He's going to be very high in my rankings. Probably be a top 15 running back because I still believe even without Tyreek that it's going to be a plus offense living the plus life.

[Mike Wright]

It will be. But I was going to mention losing Tyreek will have ripple effects throughout the offense. It's not just going to be the wide receivers, it's not just going to be Pat Mahomes. It'll be the running game too. What Tyreek Hill did cannot be replaced by a second round draft pick overnight.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

And I would say the whole, to.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason's point of do you trade Damian Williams now if you're in a dynasty league, if you are a rebuild team, 100% go get value, trade him to a contender because it could be a one year shelf life for Damian Williams. Yeah, he signed a two year contract. But even at I'm like I am firmly on team Damian Williams, I have him on my dynasty team. But I readily admit this could be a one year thing. But that one year is top 15 with top five upside. So if you are, if you're not in contention, go ahead and sell him. But if you have a chance to win this year, I would not sell him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, and you're only selling him if you get a haul. I mean that's my point is, is you don't just sell him because things worked out well for him. That makes no sense. It's sell him. If things worked out so well but you're probably someone else is willing to overpay.

[Andy Holloway]

You're probably only going to get like draft picks because you're not going to get a comparable running back, a top 15 level running back who's more stable.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think you could pivot to a wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, okay, you can maybe do that.

[Mike Wright]

I think this is, we've heard it several times today on this show and you heard it on the Tuesday show. This is why before the draft you were kind of looking at not just where these rookies went but what who came out unscathed.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Damian Williams came out unscathed most.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, they did sign Darwin Thompson out of Utah State and there's people out there who really like Darwin. I readily admit I haven't been able to dig into him just yet, but he was a sixth round draft pick. The probability of guys drafted in the sixth or later, it's so astronomical. And yeah, maybe you're riding the high of what Philip Lindsay was able to do last year. The reason why what Philip Lindsay did was so celebrated and so gnarly. Is because it doesn't happen.

[Mike Wright]

Do you think if he performs, your thoughts on him will evolve?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, very, very nice.

[Jason Moore]

It took me a second. Don't forget. Also. But real quick, Air Booby also went to the.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And look, Air Booby was someone I loved. I really wanted draft capital spent on him. But he was undrafted.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just going to leave Air Booby out there. I'm not explaining who he is. We're not telling you anything.

[Andy Holloway]

He was.

[Mike Wright]

He's a mythical character.

[Andy Holloway]

He was free.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Los Angeles Chargers, my team. Wait, what?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you have an announcement?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I've got a huge announcement. Undrafted free agent. I have signed with the Los Angeles Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

Jason Moore did sign. Oh, that is from Findlay College. That sounds like a college you may have attended.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I may or may not. I promise you. I may or may not have attended somebody college.

[Andy Holloway]

That sounds like a scandal your parents got you in.

[Mike Wright]

It's not Finland College. No. Bonjour here. All right. It's Findlay. What do they do? I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

You're a wide receiver, huh, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I am. Wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Why? Oh, my self shaming.

[Jason Moore]

Living that plus life.

[Mike Wright]

Said wide receiver. Oh, my goodness. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Sketch radius knows no bounds.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. Okay. Easton stick.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

We added Easton Stick in the fifth round. Quarterback out of North Dakota State. They say they want to use them like Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

No fantasy relevance. Realistically, everything stayed status quo on the offensive side of the ball. They used a third round pick on an offensive tackle. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

There's. There's no loser here for the Chargers. As far as offensive fantasy football, what you saw last year is what they're going to try to roll out there this year again. So I don't think the draft had any bearing and in fact it only could have hurt. I don't think there was a situation or an opportunity, a whole where had they drafted a wide receiver or a running back, we would have been excited about it. Only would have hurt their situation. And so it's smart that they focused much more on the defensive side.

[Mike Wright]

It reinforces Mike Williams significant role in the offense. Yes. Did you guys do your over unders on the.

[Andy Holloway]

I took the over for the Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

Did you? Yeah, I was gonna say I actually took the under.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they. Were they at 9?

[Mike Wright]

They were at 10.

[Andy Holloway]

10.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they were at 10.

[Andy Holloway]

I think a winner, a. A potential winner would be Justin Jackson, who. I know I just talked about how late round guys don't pan out, but Justin Jackson was able to get on the field and show something to the team. Austin Eckler's in the last year of his contract and they didn't add anybody at least this year. Just saying that Justin Jackson is. If he's on the fringe at like the low end of your bench on your dynasty team, make sure he stays there.

[Mike Wright]

All right. The Oakland Raiders. They drafted 1, 2, 3 Clemson Tigers in the first round.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Jacobs. Welcome to opportunity. First round pick by the Oakland Raiders. That's the headline here.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's locked in.

[Mike Wright]

He has a. He's been going to be given a three down roll. The high draft, capital, the skill set. And then Isaiah Crowell going down and not a lot of talent behind them. It gives the offense a lot of flexibility to be able to throw to Jacobs out of the backfield. And he is a huge winner with the landing spot. Derek Carr, big winner, huge winner.

[Jason Moore]

He's my biggest winner here because there was all the.

[Mike Wright]

Because he has a job.

[Jason Moore]

Because he's got a job. Not only does he have a job, it's a pretty good job. Like right now, they went out, they got Antonio Brown, they got Tyrell Williams, they got Josh Jacobs, who can catch balls out of the backfield.

[Mike Wright]

They even took Hunter Renfro.

[Jason Moore]

Hunter Renfro is a good wide receiver. I think it's not a bad spot for him to go for the future development. But the worry was, are they going to go after Kyler Murray or Dwayne Haskins and replace Derek Card? They didn't. Which means they're going to have the stance that that was nonsense. They would never even dream about replacing Derek Card. That's their guide. They're all in on him. Whether true or not, this season they're pushing all their chips in on Derek Carr and he is in a position to win, to be an actual relevant fantasy quarterback this season. And I think we're so just done with Derek Carr from the last year and a half.

[Andy Holloway]

I still am.

[Jason Moore]

That we don't see. I'd be valuable this season.

[Andy Holloway]

I still am. I'm out.

[Mike Wright]

Even if you don't believe he's. If you're in Game of Thrones, okay, and you've got to go fight the army of the dead. And you aren't sure whether that guy over there is a good fighter.

[Andy Holloway]

Cars in the front line. Get out of here.

[Mike Wright]

What I'm saying is maybe you're not sure that he's a great fighter, but then you give him a tool belt and it's got all the best weapons that exist in the whole world.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

At least you got a shot.

[Jason Moore]

Better. Better than being out there in the snow naked.

[Andy Holloway]

He's gonna be a little bit more.

[Mike Wright]

Say it once. I'd say it a thousand times.

[Andy Holloway]

A little more Tim Allen, little less Al Borland with that tool belt, if you know what I mean.

[Jason Moore]

So where do you stand? So obviously we, Mike and I are on different.

[Mike Wright]

Great opportunity for Derek Carr to have.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't argue with that. I don't. Of course he has opportunity as the best wide receiver in football on his team.

[Jason Moore]

And you don't think that's enough for him to be fantasy?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I still think he watched the draft with complete diarrhea, just panicking that he was going to get replaced.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Jacobs is going to help him out of the backfield. You know, Derek Carr likes to throw the ball short. That's where he looks.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Quick question. Because of the Isaiah Crowell news, the signing of Krampus Doug Martin once again relevant somehow. If you are the Josh Jacobs owner, would you rather, if you had to pick one, would you rather have Jalen Rashard on your team or would you rather have Doug Martin on your team?

[Jason Moore]

I'd rather.

[Andy Holloway]

One, two, three, Richard.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

You didn't say the whole name. It sounds stupid. I said Jalen. I use the whole name. You. You really messed that up, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, me, me and we're just. We're cool like that.

[Jason Moore]

You're on a last name basis. How friendly of you. You and my good buddy Richard on.

[Mike Wright]

A last name basis. All right, let's talk about the AFC North. The Baltimore Ravens invested their first overall pick on the first wide receiver off the board, Hollywood Brown.

[Jason Moore]

I remember previous shows in previous years where we could say something like be still my heart.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

When a player that we love gets drafted in a situation that we love. But this was breaking my heart.

[Andy Holloway]

I literally said on the pre draft show the one place I will be sad if Marquis Brown goes.

[Mike Wright]

Sometimes you go to Hollywood, you become a big star. Sometimes you go there and you work at Universal Studios waiting tables. Marquis Brown, look out for Jackson. Not a big winner.

[Andy Holloway]

Here comes King Kong.

[Mike Wright]

Lamar Jackson was. Lamar Jackson was a winner in this draft. Two big weapons in the first three rounds. Marquis Brown, Miles Boykin, two receivers that I really love. Lamar Jackson love. Every opportunity to improve on those passing numbers, the passing attempts. There will be opportunity for Hollywood Brown in this offense. What are we talking about fantasy wise? Three or four catches a game. That's what you're probably talking about. With, with Hollywood.

[Jason Moore]

And the nice thing is if he takes one across, you know, the formation, he can take it to the house. I would, I would say another loser in this draft is CD Lamb, his speedy small teammate at Oklahoma who will come out next year in the draft and they'll be like, oh, see those tiny guys, they might not work out. I feel bad. I feel like the. Another loser's.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow, you're calling for the future draft suck of his teammate.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, the 170 pound wide receiver. See, I'm not have a big. Let's say. Let's say Marquis Brown goes out. It doesn't do anything of note. You know, it's. It can't get the accurate deep passes from Lamar Jackson. That hurts the future stock of all these tiny wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

I don't agree. How about that?

[Jason Moore]

Then I disagree with you.

[Mike Wright]

Here's why. Because you're. If you would wanted to make that argument about fantasy players won't have faith in little receivers or something, that's fine because I don't think Marquis Brown is going to set the world on fire for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

But he's going to be great for.

[Mike Wright]

Lamar Jackson and that's just going to validate the little receiver because he's going to come out. I think Baltimore, they were a team that was competitive last year. You had the most dynamic receiver in the draft. It's going to help them win games.

[Jason Moore]

I think it is good for Baltimore. Well then you can Lamar Jackson. It's good for CD we'll see. We'll see. I mean the whole point is really like if Baker had come out and stunk it up this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

If he just failed and fizzled and it wasn't good, that'd be bad. I don't believe Kyler Murray is the number one pick in this year's draft.

[Mike Wright]

So are you then predicting Marquis Brown is going to come up and stink it up? Because that's what you're saying?

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's the thing. I mean he's, he's hyper talented. But this is the worst situation of all 32 teams that he could have landed in. So I think he's going to have a bad year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I don't think it's the worst situation because I think you.

[Jason Moore]

Where would you have put him?

[Mike Wright]

You can come in and be the one from day one.

[Andy Holloway]

But even if you're the opportunity so here, yes, there's going to be rookie improvement but just a snapshot of what Lamar Jackson actually did in the, in the games that he started. So he started Seven games of the regular season. His pace for a full year is 210 completions, just over 2,500 yards and 11 touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he ever passed 200 yards.

[Jason Moore]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

He let me.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe one time.

[Andy Holloway]

One time he hit 204.

[Mike Wright]

I understand that, but I don't want to. Me personally, I don't want to overemphasize the projected season on a rookie quarterback taking over an offense from Joe Flacco, leaning on what he's great at that you don't need to have a ton of training camp and practice with the first team with which is taking the ball and running. I think there's opportunity for improvement. So I'm not saying he will be amazing, but you would need. But you have to give a guy an opportunity to get better in year one to year two because no rookie quarterbacks go out and throw for a ton of yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. But I'm saying the jump that you need from 2,500 yards and 11 touchdowns, well, it's.

[Jason Moore]

It's.

[Andy Holloway]

You need a very.

[Mike Wright]

Did you stat out Hollywood Brown already?

[Andy Holloway]

I did.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's take a look at this because we're in the throngs of our full team by team projections. In fact, I believe that was the quick question of the day. And Jason, while we pull that out, maybe you can illuminate. Somebody asked, well, what process do you go through in getting your rankings for the ultimate draft kit?

[Jason Moore]

Well, you guys pulled that up. So the ultimate draft kit, you know, we come out early with our rankings where like a lot of people do, we look at the players we like and we sort them around and order them. Those are pointless to me. Those are fun little nuggets to talk about. But when we are prepping for the ultimate draft kit, we go through and we stat every single player on every single team. We're looking at the quarterback and how the target distribution works from position to position. From within the position group, we make sure things make sense. We can't have our wide receivers on a team projected for 40 touchdowns and the quarterbacks projected for 30. That wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. So we really take a look at a ton of different things, but then we go and look at our rankings and we actually get a much different order. Sometimes it's very surprising to ourselves, but much more accurate. It's part of how we have historically had such good, accurate rankings in the fantasy pros competitions because we are. We are truly stating out 2019.

[Andy Holloway]

It takes a very long time.

[Jason Moore]

It does. It's grueling.

[Mike Wright]

So I guess this would be to the point of Marquis Brown not having fantasy value. I don't project it for a ton of points. I haven't projected for a pretty good yard per reception. I only. I have projected under 40 receptions on the year. As do I. I'm at 37 receptions, 610 yards, four touchdowns, a handful of rushing attempts.

[Andy Holloway]

Very, very comparable to me. I have him. I have him started out for 92 points and a half point PPR, 92 points.

[Mike Wright]

I'm higher than that. I'm at about 115. But I just think he's a difference maker on the offense. But you're right, it's going to be one predicated on Ingram. Lamar Jackson's rushing.

[Andy Holloway]

Just saying. So for all the Baltimore people like, hey, don't. Don't crap on my team.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to win.

[Andy Holloway]

It just stinks for fantasy football. That's what we're saying now.

[Jason Moore]

We.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk about Justice Hill.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I was going to say.

[Mike Wright]

Well then say it.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say we need to talk about Justice Hill before we move on. Very, very fast running back. I was not in love with this film. He didn't seem to have a lot of shiftiness or moves but if you could open up a hole and get him going through it, it's going to be very difficult to catch him. I think it's actually a pretty good matchup for a team that wants to run the ball so much, that has a quarterback so good at running where when you do the run pass option with Lamar Jackson, if they bite on Lamar Jackson and that linebacker comes in and he'll gas you a five yard head start, then he could be really successful.

[Mike Wright]

That being said, Mark Ingram, the starter signed this offseason. Gus Edwards is still there. Kenneth Dixon. I think the opportunity for Justice Hill, what they want to do with him is going to come in the passing game.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree.

[Mike Wright]

I think he will have an opportunity to showcase whether or not he has skills. I actually projected him with the second most receptions out of that backfield behind Mark Ingram. I don't know how you projected him.

[Andy Holloway]

I have him just ahead of Mark Ingram. Justice, the reason that Mark Ingram was a loser in the draft to me.

[Mike Wright]

Where, okay, third downs.

[Andy Holloway]

What you were very excited for for Ingram is that he can do everything. He could be a three down running back but they have a guy who could be a. Who could specialize for the team in the, in the pass catching game. His sophomore year he had 31 receptions. He had 13 the following year. So he has that in his profile. So it's. It was a little bit disappointing for Ingram.

[Mike Wright]

Sounds like we had the same thought on him.

[Jason Moore]

And shout out to trace McSorley. He was drafted as the backup quarterback and I just got to say like congratulations because you became an NFL quarterback and I can't believe it. I just, I mean I can't believe it. The last couple years. So mean. But it's true. I'm giving him a shout out. I'm congratulating.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he would like is.

[Jason Moore]

An NFL quarterback and I'm a man. I mean good for you, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe you were McSorely mistaken.

[Mike Wright]

That's what he'll say.

[Jason Moore]

But when he gets done with you the last two years, look at Saquon film and look at a Miles Sanders film. Half of my notes are just man, that quarterback sucks.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

And that's for college in general. And then he was drafted.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we got to start flying the Bengals. Winners and losers from the draft for the Cincinnati Bengals. They spent the first first two picks, offensive tackle and a tight end. Look, Joe Mixon got help up front.

[Andy Holloway]

Excellent.

[Mike Wright]

Andy Dalton got help up front and the wide receiver core got no competition. So guys like obviously you already knew A.J. breen was A.J. green was locked and loaded. But looks like you're going to have real opportunity for the incumbents. Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I actually think, I know that they took a quarterback in the fourth round, Ryan Finley. But I still see Andy Dalton as a winner because similar to Derek Carr, there were a lot of.

[Andy Holloway]

They were sharing a modium.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. During the draft they were both worried about the diarrhea sweats and Yeah. I mean you didn't get one of the big name quarterbacks going there that is going to challenge this year for a starting spot.

[Andy Holloway]

My only loser from the draft would be Gio Bernard. And if you're talking long term of him being a Cincinnati Bengal took two running backs in the sixth round. Both guys who Travion Williams has prolific production. Rodney Anderson surely would have been a higher draft pick were not for his very massive injury history. But between those two guys, I think they can. They will have their backup for the future.

[Mike Wright]

And speaking of the wide receiver core not addressed in the draft, they did sign Nebraska wide receiver Stanley Morgan who also runs an investment firm.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But he is very fiscally responsible. He's getting me quality 5% returns. My muni ladders are out of control.

[Mike Wright]

Look, he is one of the eight undirected Free agents that you need to pay attention to in 2019. You can go read the article on the website by Kyle. Our editor in chief, Stanley Morgan will be responsible with the targets thrown his way. That's what we know.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely no risk.

[Mike Wright]

I think we can even hear Brooks on that one.

[Jason Moore]

Little to no risk.

[Mike Wright]

Little to no risk. Oh, become something, Stanley Morgan. Become something.

[Andy Holloway]

We are ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

Cleveland, the Browns. Hello. Let's. Let's go to the Browns. Not a pile of draft picks and nothing really invested on the offensive side of the football unless you're into place kickers. But hey, Antonio Calloway. Antonio Calloway doesn't get threatened by a new wide receiver. And they already had quite the offense. Now, Duke Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Duke Johnson is the winner slash loser in his mind. But I think. I think winner. I mean, the fact that they. Duke Johnson's wanting to get traded ever since Cream Hunt came to town. And the Browns are like, we have like real plans for you.

[Mike Wright]

They're like, we don't care.

[Jason Moore]

You are part of our offense.

[Andy Holloway]

No, they literally said we don't quote. Is this real, Brooks?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it is. I saw Freddie Kitchen talk about Freddie.

[Andy Holloway]

Kitchens regarding the trade request from his player, Duke Johnson. He said, quote, doesn't matter to me.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Woof. Every time Brooks says he wants to be traded, I say the same thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it doesn't matter.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it would matter if you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Pick up my trash, Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think Duke Johnson was a winner here. He's going to be incredibly undervalued this year in fantasy drafts. When I am late in my draft, I am picking up duke Johnson because 100%.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think a disgruntled third string running back is who I want the whole first half of the year.

[Jason Moore]

He's going to be the second string if you're in a PPR league.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but his face is going to look like this.

[Jason Moore]

That is true. But there's a lot of ugly, very successful fantasy players.

[Mike Wright]

That's true. Shout out to Andrew Luck. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

What is happening today?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

We are so mean.

[Mike Wright]

Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Andy Holloway]

I want no part of this.

[Mike Wright]

If I'm lying, I'm dying. Deontay Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

I got Trace. He's got Andrew Luck. You're up next, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

What for just a savage.

[Jason Moore]

Drive the bus.

[Mike Wright]

Well, Mike normally goes Eric Decker or Tyler Eiffel about positivity.

[Andy Holloway]

He brings handsomeness.

[Mike Wright]

He's about. He has the. He's the handsomest.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He's got to talk about.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Who's the best looking guy in the NFL right now, Mike?

[Jason Moore]

That's a good question.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, I got to think about it.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, Decker's gone.

[Jason Moore]

I know.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, ifrt. We're moving on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I.

[Mike Wright]

Give it some thought, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

I will. Jimmy G. Right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I was trying not to be basic. Yeah. But. Default answer, but you really can't argue with that face.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's talk about the Steelers. Deontay Johnson in the third round, top of the third round. Benny Snell, fourth round draft pick. I believe I said on this show I thought that a somewhat high draft capital pick would be spent on a running back in Pittsburgh, which the fourth.

[Andy Holloway]

Round four is perfect as somewhat high.

[Mike Wright]

If it had been fifth, I would not have taken credit.

[Andy Holloway]

Somewhat low.

[Mike Wright]

Do you read into it at all, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

I read into it for Jalen Samuel. I firmly think James Connor is a starter. We have enough history here where. You know, I've even read some articles from Pittsburgh that are saying maybe they'll go to a committee approach. And I'm. I don't buy that for one second. I will wait until it happens before I will ever project that. We have a ton of history of a workhorse role here for Mike Tomlin. It doesn't matter who it is, how many people have replaced them when they're injured, when they're suspended, it's always one guy up. But the thing is, Benny Snell can be the next man up and succeed. Like, he will become one of my favorite handcuffs because, I mean, I said this prior to the draft. He's good. He's really good. I know he gets made fun of because his last name is Snell and he ran a 4. 6. 6.

[Mike Wright]

A little too close to snail.

[Jason Moore]

I get it. But it's like he's actually.

[Andy Holloway]

We're above those types of judges on this show.

[Mike Wright]

He's got a great smile. Great smile.

[Jason Moore]

He does have a great smile. And the reality is very Benny smile. Le'Veon Bell ran a four, six. Okay. I think. I think Benny Snell is a very good back and a very good handcuff backup.

[Mike Wright]

Very good back.

[Jason Moore]

He is a. He is a backup. So I'm only. I think the loser here is not James Conner is more Jalen Samuel.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you've talked about them liking Jalen Samuel.

[Jason Moore]

I've talked about them liking Jalen Samuel in the past. Yeah. In the past when he was the starter. Because whoever is the starter, they're going to like and get.

[Andy Holloway]

When did Jalen Samuels lose the S at the end of his name?

[Jason Moore]

When I started Saying his name.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

When St. Jude's took the S away, we took it away from everybody.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

All right. The afc. Whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. You can't move on.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no. Winners and losers.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to talk wide receivers because they drafted Deontay Johnson at the very beginning of the third round. They brought in Dante Moncrief on a two year deal over the off season. I know you needed guys, but like, Ryan Switzer's there. Eli Rogers is still there.

[Mike Wright]

Those are the guys that lose the most value to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it. It's not James Washington.

[Mike Wright]

No. And it seems to take these guys a little bit of time. They end up great in Pittsburgh, but not everyone has started their career on fire. Deontay Johnson, to me, indicts the Ryan Switzer, Eli Rogers situation. Moncrief's got a role. James Washington, he may sit in the background, he may not have the opportunities that we thought he was going to have, but that was the case when they brought in Moncrief. That wasn't necessarily changing in my mind when they brought in Deontay Johnson. I don't know if you guys disagree.

[Jason Moore]

I agree for the most part what you're saying. James Washington is a loser from the draft, but that doesn't he. I preferred him prior to them having Deontay Johnson, but I don't think that that's the whole picture. You know, he can still succeed. I don't think he's just left for dead. But it's obviously not good when you go out and sign another player who's competing for your opportunities.

[Andy Holloway]

And Vance McDonald locked in.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they didn't go in and grab a high draft. Capital tight end, the Houston Texans, winners and losers for Houston. What do you think?

[Jason Moore]

Lamar Miller, every year what is dead cannot die. Every single year, he just comes out on top and says, oh, I got that big contract.

[Mike Wright]

Ironborn.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's impressive to me. And Lamar Miller, you know, for years he used to be my guy and I just thought, oh, he's done. He's never going to be done.

[Mike Wright]

Remember last season when he had that next Frank Gore? Absolute monstrous game. Broke the two long touchdowns in one game. And you just said to yourself, who is it?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, and you know, I would say that, you know, it's not just Lamar Miller. Deonta Foreman. He's coming off the Achilles.

[Mike Wright]

What about Devonta Foreman?

[Jason Moore]

What? Devonta Foreman.

[Andy Holloway]

Why are you changing who that is?

[Jason Moore]

But Deonta Foreman.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I thought you said Deontay.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

What did I say?

[Andy Holloway]

You said Devonte oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Deonta Foreman.

[Andy Holloway]

What about this incorrect name? Have you ever thought about that?

[Jason Moore]

What about Will Fullest? Does Will Fullest, that wide receiver get better or worse?

[Mike Wright]

I thought I was correcting Beyonce.

[Jason Moore]

No. But whoops. Yeah, I think Foreman is a winner as well.

[Mike Wright]

You will get your name pronounced correctly when you are fully recovered.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Well, there you go. Both running backs, it's a good situation for them.

[Mike Wright]

Will Fuller. Good situation. Kiki qt. Good situation.

[Andy Holloway]

And Watson, I mean, they upgraded the offensive line after seeing Watson get the crap kicked out of him, so. So he's a winner as well.

[Mike Wright]

All right. The Indianapolis Colts, they drafted the Rock with the first pick. Thoughts?

[Andy Holloway]

I would love to get Dwayne Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

On my team, but the Rock is a cornerback out of Temple, so their first investment on offense was Paris Campbell in the second round.

[Andy Holloway]

I love it.

[Mike Wright]

You guys both like Paris Campbell. I think he will flash here. I do not think he will flash all the time.

[Jason Moore]

I have not been in love with Paris Campbell.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm the only one who likes him. I feeling.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, I'm fine with him. And actually, this is a good spot for Andrew Luck. It's a good spot for him. It's great for Andrew Luck. This is. I mean, you've. You've got two guys now on this roster that have lightning speed. That's going to open things up for Paris Campbell to take those short screens like he did at Ohio State and be able to do a lot in the. In the yak category. So I really like it for Indianapolis. I like it for Andrew Luck. I don't personally think it takes anything. Like, I don't see Pierce Campbell coming in as a big loser for Devin Funches. I think that they are very different roles still.

[Mike Wright]

Chester Rogers. See Chester Rogers, I think Zach Pascal.

[Jason Moore]

Those guys have been destroyed by Devin Funches. Paris Campbell and Ty Hilton. Paris and Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

We just talked. We just talked about us being above jokes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that wasn't a joke. I'm just talking about Paris Hilton. Paris. Paris. And Hilton will be. Will be. I think the offense is great and because the offense is going to be better and they didn't bring in competition. We talked about Marlon Mack. Marlon Mack is by a mile, the biggest winner for the Colts.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

He goes from this fringe guy that if he gets the opportunity would be good, but you can't really be confident in to someone that. I'm saying, I'm drafting a lot of Marla Mack this year.

[Mike Wright]

He's been the answer to the who wants to be a millionaire? Question of who the starting running back on an Andrew Luck offense was, but you haven't been able to lock the answer in until now. Now you can lock it in. They brought in Spencer Ware. They didn't draft anybody.

[Jason Moore]

Final answer?

[Mike Wright]

Final answer. Marlon Mack. Sure. Jacksonville drafting Jason's favorite defensive player, Josh Allen in the first round. Jacksonville also invested on that offensive line helps Leonard Fournette. Fournette's a winner.

[Jason Moore]

Juwan Taylor falling as far as he did. I mean, I didn't see a mock draft where he went lower than the 12th pick and he falls to the third pick in the second round to Jacksonville. That is huge. This offensive line is very underrated for Jacksonville. That's why I think Leonard Fournette, I have him down as a Giant winner because that offensive line is going to be great and he has a quarterback now that is not going to have other teams at least right off the bat saying you do it. You know, they're stacking the box against Fournette.

[Mike Wright]

Did you take the over or under on the eight wins for Jacksonville?

[Andy Holloway]

I took the under.

[Jason Moore]

I will take the over.

[Mike Wright]

I took the over. I took the over for Jacksonville. I think they're going to have a bounce back year. Some stability on offense mixed with a defense that is capable of giving you top five performances I think will be pretty impressive this season. Raquel Armstead, is he the new handcuff for Leonard Fournette?

[Andy Holloway]

We'll see.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, he. So they took him as a running back big. Another big boy. Fifth round, very early in the fifth, but that's still pretty late. He was not one of the earlier running backs drafted. So I think this is just a depth piece. Whenever you've got Alfred Blue as your backup, you need help. And they got some.

[Mike Wright]

All right. The Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans took A.J. brown in the second round of the draft. The big offensive ad they did sign Alex Barnes. Mike's combine hero, Preston there.

[Andy Holloway]

I liked him before the combine. Thank you very much.

[Mike Wright]

Combine hero. He led the entire running back class in just saying bench reps. That's what.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want you to think is that I'm just like, oh, look at Barnes.

[Mike Wright]

No, the combine reinforced your love of Barnes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Which was then de enforced by.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it was gone.

[Mike Wright]

Passed on him.

[Andy Holloway]

Existence.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Landing spots for wide receivers. There could be better ones for AJ Brown. However, if you were sitting here right now, let's say you're in a dynasty draft, you're in a redraft league. AJ Brown. Or Corey Davis AJ Brown in both situations.

[Andy Holloway]

AJ Brown, Corey Davis is dead to me.

[Jason Moore]

I would take Corey Davis over A.J. brown. I would want neither. I mean I think this is a really bad situation. It's good for Marcus Mario.

[Andy Holloway]

I've had enough putting dollars into that slot machine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but the problem is you pass on the pitch.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying you've had enough dollars putting into the Corey Davis slot machine. What the reality is is you've had too many dollars spent on the Tennessee Titans Marcus Mariota slot machine and now you're going to take those targets and you're going to divide it up because Corey Davis isn't going away. They're saying we need more weapons. So now they're adding to it and you're splitting it. I think both are going to be hard pressed to be valuable for fantasy. I want nothing to do with either guy. I mean starting in a this was.

[Mike Wright]

A 9 and 7 team last year that gets hopefully a healthy Marcus Mariota back. Adds A.J. brown to the offense. Derek Henry, they figured something out.

[Jason Moore]

They want to run, run, run.

[Mike Wright]

They could be a surprisingly good team. That might not mean great things for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

Well said. That's exactly what I agree with.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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