NFL Draft Breakdown: AFC Winners & Losers - Fantasy Football Podcast

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: NFL Draft Breakdown: AFC Winners & Losers
Release Date: April 28, 2020
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Introduction

In this episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve deep into the NFL Draft, focusing specifically on the AFC teams. They analyze the draft picks to determine which teams emerged as winners and losers, offering valuable insights for fantasy football enthusiasts.

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Opening Banter and Setting the Stage

(00:00 - 03:29)
The hosts kick off the episode with casual conversation about their experiences over the NFL draft weekend. Mike shares his enthusiasm:

• Mike Wright (00:45): "Delicious. It was a delicious sports weekend... I need it, baby. Come on."

Jason humorously suggests resetting 90s basketball to watch games live:

• Jason Moore (01:47): "We should just have just reset 90s basketball and just played the games, play them live on the air as though they're happening."

Andy mentions being deeply involved in research for their dynasty leagues:

• Andy Holloway (03:05): "Toes are out of the water I'm underneath. I'm drowning."

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News and Highlights

(10:07 - 17:34)
Before diving into the AFC analysis, the hosts touch upon significant NFL news, including contract signings and team transactions.

Saints’ Moves:

• Jason Moore (10:16): The Saints signed Taysom Hill to a two-year, $21 million contract with $16 million guaranteed and added Jameis Winston on a one-year deal.
• Andy Holloway (10:38): Praises the Saints for acquiring Winston as a quality backup and potential future starter, noting the strategic advantage it offers.

49ers Transactions:

• Jason Moore (12:02): The Eagles acquired wide receiver Marquis Goodwin from the 49ers, while the Dolphins picked up Matt Breida in exchange for a fourth-round pick.
• Andy Holloway (12:43): Expresses disappointment in the 49ers' wide receiver landing spots, particularly with Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper.

Cleveland Browns:

• Jason Moore (14:40): The Browns exercised a fifth-year option on tight end David Njoku while also retaining Austin Hooper, raising questions about their tight end strategy.
• Andy Holloway (15:04): Highlights that while Njoku remains tradable, his future with the Browns might be uncertain.

Patriots’ Quarterback Situation:

• Mike Wright (13:57): Discusses the Patriots not drafting a quarterback and speculates they might proceed with Nick Saban-like defensive strategies due to uncertainty at the quarterback position.

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AFC Teams Analysis: Winners & Losers

The core of the episode revolves around dissecting each AFC team’s draft choices to identify winners and losers from a fantasy football perspective.

1. Kansas City Chiefs

Winner: Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Loser: Damian Williams

• Andy Holloway (19:17): Initially skeptical about Edwards-Helaire but acknowledges his perfect fit in KC's offense, especially with Patrick Mahomes.

• Jason Moore (21:09): Praises Edwards-Helaire’s potential and laments having to downgrade from Damian Williams.

Key Quote:

• Andy Holloway (20:08): "You couldn't have matched a better specific player with a system for fantasy."

2. Denver Broncos

Winners: Jerry Jeudy, Drew Lock
Losers: CD Lamb

• Andy Holloway (22:21): Approves of Jerry Jeudy’s draft selection, highlighting the Broncos' strategy to surround their quarterback with talent.

• Mike Wright (22:32): Enthusiastic about Drew Lock, citing the Broncos' investment in offensive talent that could enhance Lock's performance.

Key Quote:

• Mike Wright (22:53): "Jerry Jeudy is going to be interesting as a late-round flyer for fantasy purposes."

3. Las Vegas Raiders

Winners: Darron Ruggs III
Losers: Darren Waller

• Andy Holloway (26:01): Expresses skepticism about Henry Ruggs III’s fit, comparing him unfavorably to previous Raiders’ receivers.

• Mike Wright (27:07): Labels Darren Waller as a potential loser due to diminished target volume with the addition of new wideouts.

Key Quote:

• Mike Wright (28:52): "I 100% put Darren Waller as an unfortunate loser when it comes to target volume."

4. Chargers

Winner: Austin Ekeler
Loser: Justin Jackson

• Andy Holloway (31:42): Considers Justin Jackson as a "little bit of a loser" compared to the more promising Joshua Kelly.

• Jason Moore (31:55): Highlights Austin Ekeler's secure role and predicts Justin Jackson will have limited fantasy impact.

Key Quote:

• Andy Holloway (32:12): "He's a loser, you know, but yeah."

5. New England Patriots

Winner: Limited, with potential for Devin Ozzy
Losers: Nikhil Harry, potential undervaluation of offensive weapons

• Andy Holloway (34:35): Criticizes Patriots for not addressing the quarterback position and expresses disinterest in their wideouts without a reliable QB.

• Jason Moore (35:14): Agrees with Andy, expressing minimal enthusiasm for New England's offensive arsenal.

Key Quote:

• Andy Holloway (34:30): "No one is interesting here to me until they have a quarterback that I can rely."

6. Buffalo Bills

Winner: Zach Moss
Loser: Devin Singletary

• Jason Moore (38:04): Considers Devin Singletary a draft loser due to the addition of Zach Moss, expecting both to underperform in fantasy.

• Andy Holloway (38:31): Predicts Singletary will have a diminished role, making him a primary loser in Buffalo’s draft.

Key Quote:

• Andy Holloway (38:54): "I think one of the biggest losers in the draft was Singletary because it looked really promising for him."

7. Indianapolis Colts

Winner: Jonathan Taylor
Loser: Marlon Mack

• Andy Holloway (58:56): Applauds Jonathan Taylor’s draft selection, citing his perfect fit with the Colts' offensive line and playstyle.

• Mike Wright (48:00): Enthusiastic about Taylor’s synergy with Lamar Jackson and foresees a bright future in the backfield.

Key Quote:

• Andy Holloway (58:56): "Jonathan Taylor's skill set, it is a perfect, perfect match for me."

8. Jacksonville Jaguars

Winner: Josh Jacobs
Loser: Leonard Fournette

• Andy Holloway (62:11): Disappointed by the Jaguars' failure to address the running back position, leaving Fournette as the default fantasy option.

• Mike Wright (63:09): Expresses concern over reliance on Fournette without meaningful additions to the backfield.

Key Quote:

• Andy Holloway (62:23): "Unless major things change in free agency, the rest of the [running backs]... Fournette. This seems."

9. Tennessee Titans

Winner: Darrin Evans
Loser: Minimal impact

• Andy Holloway (64:33): Views Darrin Evans as a suitable replacement for Dion Lewis, expecting him to carve out a decent role.

• Jason Moore (64:22): Labels Tennessee as stable but not particularly exciting in their draft moves.

Key Quote:

• Mike Wright (64:51): "He'll probably have more fantasy relevance than Dion Lewis did at the [Titans]."

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Final Thoughts and Conclusion

(66:30 - End)
The hosts wrap up the episode by reiterating the fun and analytical approach to breaking down the AFC draft picks. They tease the next episode, which will focus on the NFC winners and losers, maintaining enthusiasm for ongoing fantasy football strategies.

Andy Holloway (66:36): "Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Mike Wright (00:45): "Delicious. It was a delicious sports weekend... I need it, baby. Come on."
• Jason Moore (01:47): "We should just have just reset 90s basketball and just played the games, play them live on the air as though they're happening."
• Andy Holloway (03:05): "Toes are out of the water I'm underneath. I'm drowning."
• Andy Holloway (19:17): "You couldn't have matched a better specific player with a system for fantasy."
• Mike Wright (28:52): "I 100% put Darren Waller as an unfortunate loser when it comes to target volume."
• Andy Holloway (32:12): "He's a loser, you know, but yeah."
• Andy Holloway (34:30): "No one is interesting here to me until they have a quarterback that I can rely."
• Andy Holloway (38:54): "I think one of the biggest losers in the draft was Singletary because it looked really promising for him."
• Andy Holloway (58:56): "Jonathan Taylor's skill set, it is a perfect, perfect match for me."

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Conclusion

This episode offers a comprehensive analysis of the AFC teams' draft strategies, highlighting standout picks and questionable decisions. The Fantasy Footballers provide actionable insights for fantasy managers, emphasizing the importance of understanding team dynamics and player roles post-draft. Their balanced discussions, enriched with humor and expertise, make this episode a valuable resource for anyone looking to gain an edge in their fantasy football leagues.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hi, this is Eric Dickinson, NFL hall of Famer, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Ah, welcome in, Andy, Mike and Jason, the fantasy footballers. Back with you, fresh off a spectacular NFL draft.

[Mike Wright]

Delicious. It was a delicious sports weekend. We had the NFL draft the entire weekend. We had parts three and four of the last Dance documentary. Look, this is. In a world where I am. I have no sports whatsoever. I, I just mainlined everything I could possibly get. I was up at 8:30 or what was it, nine at 9am watching rounds four through seven. Just like just, just give it all to me, man. I need it. I need it, baby. Come on. Come on.

[Jason Moore]

You're giving me an idea now, Mike. I don't understand. You overstocked. I think you talked the other day about the fact that there's just nothing on that people are just talking about nothing.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

You know, on the sports channels, they're just, they're just arguing to argue. We should just. We should have just reset 90s basketball and just played the games, play them live on the air as though they're happening. I don't remember what happened in any of those games. That'd be fun.

[Mike Wright]

I honestly think people have been doing that. Like they're just throwing random arrows of sports on and they're watching because they don't. I don't remember. We.

[Andy Holloway]

We're.

[Mike Wright]

We're going. We're starting to stack guys out and Arizona just happens to be the first team. And I'm going, I'm looking. All right, recap what happened last Michael Crabtree, what was he doing? I'm like, oh, man, he was on the Cardinals for like five seconds.

[Jason Moore]

All right, it's Tuesday, April 28th. The fantasy footballers AFC winners and losers episode today. Appreciate you joining us. You can find us on twitter @ the FF Ballers. Appreciate the subscribes. Reviews on Apple podcasts, Spotify ad free on Stitcher Premium. We're on YouTube. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. Make sure you subscribe. Over there, click the bell. Mike is waving both hands.

[Mike Wright]

That's a great wave.

[Jason Moore]

Kind welcome. Jason, how are you doing today?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm doing great, man. I am so in stating mode, in research mode, in just like I'm toad toe, toes. Toes are in the water.

[Jason Moore]

The toes are in the water.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not here in the sense that.

[Mike Wright]

We are toes and water is not afraid. That means your barely dipping in.

[Jason Moore]

You're opposite one toe out of the water.

[Andy Holloway]

Toes are out of the water I'm underneath. I'm drowning. But look, this is one of my favorite times of the year. Like, we've got our rookie drafts going on in our dynasty leagues. We have already gotten our dynasty rankings, our rookie rankings for the ultimate draft kit. Those are live now. And I am, I am so in the mode of.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's out, bro.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm toes out. I'm toes out of the water.

[Mike Wright]

Toe up. He's toes out. Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

No, I get it. We're in the midst of. We're able to now stat out each team. The draft has happened. We know the depth chart. Lots of surprises from the draft. Lots of winners, lots of losers, lots of dynasty teams that are happy, lots of dynasty owners that are sad with what took place. What was the biggest surprise from the NFL draft for each of you, player wise?

[Andy Holloway]

For everyone, you mean? I don't know how anybody has an answer outside of Jordan Love being traded up for by the Packers.

[Mike Wright]

Well, if you want, you could just say the Green Bay packers draft, sure. You could package that thing together. But the main event of that was Jordan Love. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, you know when you're, when you're a game away from the super bowl and you're right there and you've got Aaron Rodgers, a 13 win team, what you want to do is you want to get players for three years in the future. You want to make sure that you don't add anyone that's going to play right now or help the team now because you're kind of in a little bit of a rebuild here is what it seems like.

[Jason Moore]

That's why I actually, I don't know. I know you guys are working on the ultimate draft kit for this year, but I'm starting to stat out for 20, 24.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm not Jordan Love in there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm just stating out I want to be way ahead of the game like the Packers.

[Mike Wright]

It was absolutely wild that the packers not only did they decide they needed to spend their first round pick on a quarterback, they needed to also light their fourth round pick on fire at the exact same time to pass a bunch of teams that certainly had no interest in Jordan Love. I guess the paranoia that perhaps somebody else had the same idea to go in, which to be fair, I get it. It's not the first time we've seen teams kind of sneak back into the, the end of the first round for a quarterback because then you get that fifth year option. It is just, I read that they.

[Jason Moore]

Were true to them, that they were true to their board. And when I heard that, when that was the quote, I said, but wait, you traded up. Like, is it being true to your board just drafting who's on your board at the time you're there?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, 100%. That is not being true to your board. Unless maybe Jordan Love was number one on their board. Like, maybe, you know, he was should have been the first picking at this point. You got to go get him. But yeah, that. That did not make any sense to me. I mean, in the. The deepest wide receiver draft in modern NFL history, rivaling the 2014 draft, the Green Bay packers, who seemingly are desperate for another wide receiver, said, we're good here. We're not taking one. I mean, how much do they love funches? They've got their wide receiver more than me. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I will say that the. The Jalen Hurts draft pick by the Philadelphia Eagles. That one, while surprising, makes total sense top to bottom, in my opinion. I mean, this is a team that struggled with. Carson went staying upright. He was given the big extension. But backup quarterback on the Eagles is a pretty important position.

[Mike Wright]

It has been the last couple of years. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And Hertz is not, you know, he's a player that you can utilize in other capacities. Be creative with him. A lot of people have compared him to a guy we'll talk about in News, Taysom Hill, where you may be able to create some packages for him, depending on what you want to do with your quarterback depth chart on game day. At least I could kind of understand some of the logic there. You don't have to go out and pay a bunch of money for a backup quarterback for the next handful of years with wins. So that was a surprising pick. It's always interesting to see where these top quarterback options go when it's not somebody drafting them to start right away. CD Lamb. It was a bit of a surprise.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you know, it was.

[Mike Wright]

It was excellent. And what's funny, honestly. So we're as fantasy people as we're watching the NFL draft. You know, like we. We're projecting every team is going to take a skill position player because that's. That's just what we want to have happen. But there was this weird feeling as soon as they put Jerry up. Like his. His video was up where he's broadcasting from the yacht. And it was like the Eagles. All the chatter, like, online. All the chatter with my Eagles buddies are like, holy crap, move up.

[Andy Holloway]

The.

[Mike Wright]

The wide receivers are falling. We have to go and get it. Ceedee Lamb is available as soon as Jerry Jones face was on that television. It was, this dude's gonna take CD Lamb. He doesn't even need him. And he's going to do it to stick it to the Philadelphia Eagles. And as a reminder of, hey, guys, maybe we're trading up right past us so you could grab Dallas Goddard when we needed a tight end. We don't need CD Lamb, but you can't have him.

[Andy Holloway]

It was awesome.

[Mike Wright]

It was amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

But it sucks for fantasy. It really does, because a little bit, you know, it hurts. We were all big fans of Michael Gallup, his potential, obviously Amari Cooper being a super highly drafted guy. And now you go to a team where it's like he's presumably the. The third best option is rookie year. And so, yeah, the wide receivers and their landing spots, I think in this NFL draft were really negative for fantasy. There was no, like, at least for.

[Mike Wright]

Right away, it feels like, yeah, the.

[Andy Holloway]

Main guys, I mean, Rager had a good landing spot, but, you know, I felt like at least with Jerry, Judy and CD Lamb, I was disappointed. On running backs, on the other hand, I think there were several excellent. You know, they got a big boost. After the draft.

[Jason Moore]

We're going to go through the AFC teams and identify winners and losers on today's show. Jason is the big winner of our draft bet.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, give me another one.

[Jason Moore]

Ended up getting three picks correct. Made him the winner. Mike and I now have to buy him a mail order box of meat.

[Mike Wright]

Make it special, Omaha.

[Jason Moore]

And you've already, like within minutes of knowing you won, you were starting to tell us what you prefer in the box. So we'll get it. Yeah, we'll get sorted out. Which I think was a lot of filets and that's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Fillets and caramel apple tartlets.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. He just boat equal proportions. And did you just drink out of an entire pitcher?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. This is my steam.

[Jason Moore]

That's a very large cup, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

This is my brusky mug from. What's that? Knights of the Round Table? Medieval Times.

[Jason Moore]

This guy's out about everything.

[Andy Holloway]

Water got. Stay hydrated.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

All right, the Saints have rewarded Taysom Hill a two year, $21 million contract. Good for Taysom Hill. 16 million guaranteed.

[Mike Wright]

That's so crazy.

[Jason Moore]

The Saints also signed Jameis Winston to a one year deal, allowing them to have some more innovative Taysom Hill usage this year. Potentially.

[Andy Holloway]

It is to me, such a brilliant signing to bring Jameis Winston on board for both parties. Jameis Winston gets his foot in the door to be the replacement of Drew Brees should things work out well for him on the and likewise, the Saints have a legitimate option to see in practice week in and week out work with groom him up to be a replacement. I think we all expect this to be Drew Brees last season. Let's say it doesn't happen and Jameis Winston goes out and signs somewhere next year you get a nice compensatory pick because he's a quarterback. The money's going to be there. So no matter what both, no matter what the future is, this is a great signing and it's a quality backup. Now that you lost Teddy, I just thought this was brilliant from the Saints and from Winston's side as well.

[Mike Wright]

It's brutal for Dynasty. I was talking to Jason earlier because I like I have Jameis on my Dynasty squad and it's. I can't drop him. And somehow Jameis Winston simultaneously holds absolutely no value and tremendous value at the exact same time, which means I just have to keep him on my bench there. And so it's kind of obnoxious for that.

[Andy Holloway]

Could you imagine Michael Thomas's future when they still keep having to come back from all the interceptions? Yes.

[Jason Moore]

All right. I don't have a mediocre trade of the week, but the Eagles have acquired wide receiver Marquis goodwin from the 49ers. This was a transaction, one of two that the 49ers made to kind of get rid of players that still have value but they don't want anymore at all. And that includes the Dolphins acquiring Matt Breida from the 49ers in exchange for the number one 53 overall pick. So Goodwin, Breida gone from the 49ers. Your reaction to these two moves? Does Burrida have an opportunity in Miami now that you are paying attention to for fantasy?

[Mike Wright]

I will be paying attention. I'm not going to be super high on him. It was interesting because up till that point, which was, I mean that's very late in the draft, Jordan Howard was one of the big time fantasy winners. Where, you know, it was. It was a pretty unanimous projection that Miami would use one of their thousand picks to grab one of the running backs because there's a lot of really good players in this draft and they chose not to. Instead they trade a really low pick for Matt Burrita. So he will be somewhat interesting, but I will still project Jordan Howard to be the leader of the timeshare.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a nice change of pace for Howard, but I think Howard was a was still A major winner here. I'm not too worried about Breeda for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

All right. And then looking at another surprise from the draft. The Patriots, they did not draft a quarterback. If you saw their comments today, they said that was not by design that it had the right quarterback been there at the right situation that would taken them, just didn't fall that way. A lot of people speculating that Cam Newton, who's still a free agent, Jameis Winston now signed, who was also rumored as a potential Patriot, Cam Newton, no interest thus far from the Patriots. Do you think that they're going to go into the season with Stidham?

[Mike Wright]

I do.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. That's my belief. I mean I joke that Brian Hoyer is going to be the starter, but it's a joke. They're going to see what they have instead of and I think they'll find out quickly they don't have what they want at quarterback. And yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe not. We haven't seen enough on the field, you know, but when you say that it wasn't by design that they were not going to get a quarterback means, you know, it was in their plans to make an effort to do that. But they weren't going to draft someone they didn't believe in just because they.

[Jason Moore]

Or reach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the Browns for whatever reason exercise their 50 year option on tight end David and Joku. This is after they what they spent a draft pick on a tight end and they also have Austin Hooper.

[Andy Holloway]

That is correct. They've kicked him to the curb and then said but we're going to keep you around. We don't want you to be.

[Jason Moore]

I did not read on this one. Was there logic behind it? I didn't read any news that told me why. Like this is where you guys break the news to me that oh, by signing him to the fifth year option, that means David and Joku can be.

[Mike Wright]

Is he more tradable now?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

He is tradable now in the sense that he's not going to end up being a free agent and if someone wants him, if someone was looking at him, they're going to have to pay this franchise now. So maybe that's the thinking. He's obviously still a physically talented guy and tight ends at a, you know, at a young age don't usually do much. So I still think in Joku has a career ahead of him. But this sucks if he stays on the Browns now for that fifth year.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

All right, AFC winners and losers. On today's show, we're going to walk through each of the teams, pick out some situations that have changed thanks to the NFL draft. That was a lot of fun. I mean, getting the opportunity to enjoy sports of any kind. And the NFL did a great job. This was one thing that I think we all reacted to and said we were kind of hoping there'd be some tech snafus, maybe some memeable moments, which there were. However, it's not to the agreement of a draft, not to the degree that we wanted.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the biggest winners and losers show. Well, the NFL was a big winner. They came off strong, they looked great, the production was great. The biggest loser was the audience who didn't get to watch things collapse and have people unmuted at the wrong it. Honestly, it felt like the exact same NFL draft that we have every single year, minus the, you know, 10 seconds of a walk up and cheering from a crowd. So kudos to the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

They're a big fan of the Roger Goodell meme though, where he's like kind of slouched over in his recliner, if you haven't seen that one being used Around. It's very funny and it's very applicable for a lot of stuff.

[Jason Moore]

He was also cutting some sweet Eminem jokes.

[Mike Wright]

I missed the Eminem joke. What was the joke?

[Jason Moore]

It was just this real stiff. Like, I've got my jar of M&M's and it's getting much lower now.

[Mike Wright]

It was not a joke. That's a statement.

[Jason Moore]

It was so stiff.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a pretty good robot joke. I mean, you know, robots are used to that.

[Mike Wright]

Look, I've got a bag of Doritos and it's getting much lower every day.

[Jason Moore]

See, that was infinitely more entertaining. Mike, what you just did, nailed it. All right. In the AFC west, let's start with the defending champion Kansas City Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

The biggest loser was me. The biggest winner was Clyde Edwards.

[Mike Wright]

The biggest winner was me and all the other people who have the 101 pick in rookie drafts.

[Jason Moore]

So Clyde Edwards Allaire goes in the first round, the first running back off the board. Jason and Damian Williams share the huge loser prize in this one. Explain why you feel that way, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So pre draft, I was not as enamored with Clyde's Edward Clyde Edwards Allaire as most people. He wasn't in my top tier of running back the way that a lot of people viewed him. I thought he benefited just tremendously from the system that he was in. Having Joe Burrow, having the. Just that. That crazy offense that scored as. As many touchdowns as they did. And I didn't think it was he was going to have that kind of a path in the NFL. What he does. And here's the thing, like, I'm on record why Leah's saying, I don't think Damian Williams is a very talented running back. Also on record saying he's an excellent fantasy option. And that's what I see here with Edwards Alaire. You couldn't have matched a better specific player with a system for fantasy. Goodness. You've got a guy coming in who caught 55. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. Caught me mid Google. Sorry about that.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for the apology on behalf of the foot clan. But yeah, I mean, he catches 55 passes and now he comes to a team. There it is. He comes to a team that wants to throw the ball and they wanted him more than anybody.

[Jason Moore]

That's for the next. No, that's preemptive. That's for next time.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Just so I'll miss it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So, you know, they had their choice of any running back here. With the last pick of the first round, no running back had been taken yet. And Andy Reed had Talked that morning to Mahomes and said, all right, no, no thinking, you know, just top your mind. Who's the, who's the guy that you want first? He said Clyde. And so they went and they got him. And when Pat Mahomes says he wants Clyde and you spend your first round on him, I mean, I'm all in. He's my one on one. I think he's all three of our one on one. So he's got a great shady McCoy like future ahead of him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I tried to find a reason not to make him the one on one after the second day of the NFL draft. Trying to find some different stories, narratives, ways that he wouldn't be the number one pick. And you know, there are a few shots that you could take, you know, if you believe that Jonathan Taylor's going to take over from day one or something of that. But I couldn't find them. Clyde Edwards Allaire is going to be tremendous. I wonder how much it helps Patrick Mahomes to have another weapon. You know, Damian Williams was injured last year and Mahomes missed him. That was one of the things that happened on the field is you missed the wheel routes, you missed the reliability out of the backfield with the pass catching of Damian Williams when he was off the field. So from a stability standpoint, it has to help Patrick Mahomes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean this is an upgrade over Damian Williams, whatever. However down I was on Edwards Alaire pre draft hype, I still think he's a much more talented player than Damian Williams is.

[Jason Moore]

Let's move on to the Denver Broncos. The Broncos, well, they did what they could to get Drew Locke. Some weapons woofed up, man. Jerry Judy in the first round. K.J. hamler, another wide receiver in the second round. Jason, what tight end did they draft?

[Andy Holloway]

They got Albert O, man. Albert O is who they drafted. He's a great option. Where they got him, I wouldn't even have the foggiest.

[Mike Wright]

I believe it's Ogwebunam. Ogwebunam Okuwei, because I looked him up. Okuwe, I know, but I tracked him after because he was one of the. I think he was maybe the fastest tight end at the combine or one of them. Like his adjusted speed score is outrageous. A guay bonam is what I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

But foot clan if you're new to the. You know, not everybody listening to the show knows all these college players. It is spelled ok. W U E G B U N A M. That is a name.

[Jason Moore]

That is a name.

[Andy Holloway]

Alberto.

[Mike Wright]

But there's a name and he is big, strong and fast. Like the biggest winner from the Denver Broncos is Drew Locke because the team has gone all in. They pulled an absolute anti packers here with this draft. Oh, and they, and they said, what's the best way for our young quarterback to succeed? And the answer is to just drown him in talent at each skill position. And that's including grabbing Melvin Gordon during the off season. Like if, if Drew Locke fails this year, they know it's on Drew Locke and then they need to go get a another quarterback. Drew Locke has just become interesting as, as a late round flyer for fantasy purposes. I don't know that he'll be my favorite of that bunch. But when you, when you have this level of draft capital and talent around you like Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton alone, like those two guys, like, okay, I'm pretty interested in that quarterback who's throwing them the ball. Then you throw in KJ Hamler, who is an absolute burner. And no offense, I mean, the situation around Drew Locke is pretty close to as perfect as you can get.

[Jason Moore]

Cortland Sutton owners want to know if they are, oh, you're fine losers. And I do not think that they are. No, I think it's only beneficial to Cortland Sutton to have that guy on the other side as he continues to develop. And that's what they got with Jerry Judy. Does anybody disagree with that? Is anybody looking at Sutton with a negative light for Dynasty or Redraft?

[Mike Wright]

I am not, no.

[Andy Holloway]

No. I think all three of us think his role is what it's going to be. You know, I, I comp this to the former Broncos reign when you had Demarius Thomas as that big strong guy and Emmanuel Sanders as the, you know, proficient, elite route runner. And now you've got those two in Cortland Sutton and Jerry Judy. You know, whether Judy's a winner or not is entirely dependent upon Drew Locke. So the real question is, do we expect Drew Lock to fail or succeed?

[Jason Moore]

Well, you mentioned you didn't like the landing spots for the big wide receivers, so speak to that for a second before we move on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, when you talk about the big two, Jerry Judy and CD Lamb, you want them to go to a place with a great quarterback. That happened with CD Lamb. You want them to go to a place where there's a path forward to a lot of targets. That happened with Jerry Judy, but neither player were able to obtain both of those. A needy team with a good looking quarterback, you know, and a path to the targets. I think that the only spot that that really happened was Jalen Rager with the Eagles.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying Drew Locke's not attractive? Is that what you're saying? That's what I heard. I heard you.

[Mike Wright]

He's not good looking.

[Jason Moore]

He's not good looking.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, good looking.

[Jason Moore]

What's got good?

[Andy Holloway]

It's one of those things where he's going to be one of the most difficult players to project this year. He will be tough, and you need to take your shot. You need to go in with a belief that he will succeed or fail. I think you either you're off of the Broncos offense or you're all the way in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the Las Vegas Raiders, we'll talk about them. Now they drafted Henry Ruggs iii, is the first wide receiver off the board. The ghost of Al Davis lives on.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he does, as.

[Jason Moore]

That was not your best ghost.

[Andy Holloway]

Hayward Bay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Darius Hayward Bay.

[Mike Wright]

Come on. This is better than Hayward Bay. Stop.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very similar, though, because in that.

[Jason Moore]

Draft, very different players.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just saying, in that draft, there were highly touted wide receivers that were expected to go ahead, but they drafted the fastest guy.

[Mike Wright]

You had catch, you had Jerry Judy.

[Andy Holloway]

And you had CD Lamb. This would have been a spot where, if CD Lamb were drafted here, I would have loved it. Because while Derek Carr gets maligned, he's. He's an acceptable quarterback. He's had fantasy relevance for Crabtree, for Amari Cooper in the past. I just don't see Rugs as a possession guy, so I wasn't excited here. But they didn't stop at Rugs. I mean, they went out and they just, they're like, well, we need a wide receiver, so let's go get all of them.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Two more in the third round. And you look at Tyrell Williams. Now you look at Darren Waller, Hunter Renfro. Do you put those three guys into murkier waters now? Projecting with Rugs and Edwards and Bowden Jr.

[Mike Wright]

I do. I 100% put Darren Waller as an unfortunate loser when it comes to target volume. Like, yeah, he's great and he'll still be one of the better fantasy tight ends. But he was, he was the right guy in the right place at the right time last year where the team lost their number one wide receiver right before the season and Waller was there to pick up the pieces. Now they've. They went out and they've. They really have equipped Derek Carr with. With a lot of players, including one of those third round guys, Brian Edwards. Go watch tape of Brian Edwards from South Carolina, he's. He is a very interesting player. He's not an elite athlete but he looks like an absolute top notch wide receiver. He played his played four years for South Carolina. I believe he is the leading receiver from that college now. Like he is a very, very good player. Yeah. And Darren Waller last year third most targets among the tight end position. I just, I don't see a world where that repeats.

[Jason Moore]

Now let me ask you two questions here. One, are these additions, these three wide outs from the draft, are they enough? Are they the right type of weapons to make Derek Carr interesting to you? That's question one and question two is if you had to pick one wide receiver to lock into your lineup from the first day to the last day of the season, who are you picking on this team from Vegas? Correct.

[Mike Wright]

He, Derek Carr becomes sort of, I mean like he's, he's interesting to me still the same way that that Drew Lock is interesting. He, I guess a little bit more so just because he actually we've seen proof that Derek Carr can be successful in the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

Is Carr a higher dynasty pick than Locke in your mind?

[Mike Wright]

No. Ok. Not to me. I.

[Andy Holloway]

When you go outside Marcus Mariota, I mean, you know, if you get Derek Carr these weapons and he doesn't do what you know Gruden is wanting him to do with all these new tools because they're rookies then you know, you could end up halfway through the year going to Marcus Mariota to just see what the future holds. So you know, if I had to lock in one wide receiver for the whole season, I would still go Rugs because the talent, the upside, the draft.

[Jason Moore]

Capital you over Renfro or Williams? Not just one of the rookies but any wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Just solely because, you know, who do I expect to have a better season at the end in total? I would, I would say Hunter Renfro. But if I had to lock one in, I don't think Hunter Renfro is going to be special. He doesn't. But Rugs has at least the chance to be excellent.

[Mike Wright]

Renfro is like Cole Beasley. Like are you excited for a Cole Beasley for fantasy purposes? Sometimes. Every once in a while he's going to give you like a.

[Jason Moore]

You get, you get excited about. You get excited about players like Cole Beasley when they have quarterbacks like Derek Carr sometimes because that's why Darren Waller had success last year is those shallow targets. And Renfro did have some big plays towards the end of the year on the shallow Targets, but be hard to predict. It'll be interesting to see how, you know, we won't. We might not get to observe camp the way we have in years past, which means trying to weed through some of these situations is going to be new to us this year.

[Mike Wright]

I will say Tyrell Williams, guaranteed money runs out after this year, so he likely will be a cap casualty next year.

[Jason Moore]

The Chargers. The Chargers ended up drafting a new quarterback, Justin Herbert in the first round. Spent a fourth round pick on Joshua Kelly, running back out of ucla. A bigger guy, a compliment to Austin Eckler, but not a running back drafted in those top three rounds. To greatly concern you about Echler having his normal role, if not a better role than the one he had last year. So we have to say Eckler is a winner.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Justin Jackson, is he a loser? Anybody out there in the Dynasty world trying to look at Justin Jackson with some potential? Jackson's about the same size Eckler is. Joshua Kelly's a lot bigger than both of those guys. Could steal the goal line work.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think Justin Jackson is, is a little bit of a loser. I mean, you know, it's, it's one of those.

[Jason Moore]

Whenever we do winners, whenever we do winners and losers and you casually say it, it sounds worse than. If you like pronounce it, it's much worse to say like, he's a winner. To me, he's a little bit of.

[Andy Holloway]

A loser, you know, but yeah, you know, here, obviously if they went out and they drafted someone super high, then he would have been a giant loser. But right, right now I, you know, I would put Joshua Kelly ahead of Justin Jackson. I mean, it's a fourth round pick which isn't, you know, super high, but it was, it was very, very early. The six pick in the fourth round. And he is a talent. You know, I spent a lot of time.

[Mike Wright]

He's well rounded.

[Andy Holloway]

Watching him play, watching the tape, and I think he could succeed there. And I agree, when it comes to, you know, needing a little bit more of a north south pounder, goal line situations, you know, I could see it being Kelly. It's, it's a really good role for him to come into. Right. You lose Melvin Gordon and so there's a giant hole there. Is it all going to be filled by Eckler or Justin Jackson? No, they went out and got Joshua Kelly and I expect him to inherit good opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

All right, the New England Patriots. Let's move over and talk about the AFC East. The Patriots. I don't know what you can say about this draft for fantasy purposes, basically nothing. Some head scratcher tight end picks in the third round to me, dude, honestly those.

[Mike Wright]

The tight ends that they picked up, especially Devon Ozzy. Ozzy, he is, he's interesting to me, especially in this rookie class of like I didn't just put Cole Comet as my number one tight end because he was the number one guy taken. Like, I don't like, I don't really like him for fantasy purposes but I think that Devin Ozzy. Ozzy and Dalton Keane, they both have a chance to come in here and establish like who longer term for the Patriots. They need to turn into a brand new team yet again. You have a, you have a new quarterback. Julian Edelman is not long for this team. And then who do you have? Who are the weapons? Nikhil Harry still there, first round pick. Like what's going on there? And Ozzy, Ozzy, he's a, he's a big dude and he's got pretty good body control in hands as well. So he is, he is interesting to me especially because the Patriots took him in the third round. That doesn't hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

No one is interesting here to me until they have a quarterback that I can rely.

[Jason Moore]

I took the words right out of my mouth, Jason. I'm not interested, I'm not interested in one of them.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean Nikhil Harry is lost in this draft, you know, because they didn't go out and get a upgraded quarterback. If Stidham, you know, is excellent, then great. But I don't believe that. That's not how I can project it. That's not what I believe. I don't believe that The Patriots were showing incredible confidence in them by not drafting a quarterback like we talked about earlier. It was. That just is how the draft fell.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't have a lot of enthusiasm speculating about offensive weapons in New England right now.

[Andy Holloway]

And James Devlin just retired. So the running game takes a massive hit. You saw the first three games last year with them and then the rest where it was like oh man, it looked like Sony was going to be a beast. I'm not into the Patriots offense at all.

[Jason Moore]

We didn't mention it in the news, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Mediocre signing of the week.

[Jason Moore]

The Patriots did sign another quote unquote weapon, former Jags wide receiver Marquis Lee, a one year deal to the Patriots. So we didn't mention that one.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We have raised eyebrows at many Patriots wide receiver that have come in on one and two year deals. I even went through Jason, I don't know if you saw this list. Aiken, Salas, Collie, Tompkins, Dobson, Wayne, Washington, Hogan, Floyd, Mitchell, Britt, Patterson, Decker, Matthews, Barrios, Fowler, Coleman, Meredith, Inman. Those are all Patriots wide receivers. Sanu, I left him off to be nice to him. I left Sanu off to be nice. We could leave Jacoby Myers off to be nice and. But the truth is, is raising an eyebrow at tight ends and wide receivers on New England's roster is not going to happen for me until we have a quarterback that gives me a reason to do so. It's going to be very interesting to see this team work to develop and like you said, you know, James Devlin retiring. What were you saying, Jay?

[Andy Holloway]

I was just thinking it really sucks for the Patriots that they have such a good defense because they won't be able to get that number one pick and that's the right play.

[Jason Moore]

They also might not need much of an office to win.

[Mike Wright]

That's exactly where I was going to go is they, they made things easier for Stidham by just loading up more guys for that already outstanding defense. Like they have a plan and it's, we're going to beat you with 10 points.

[Jason Moore]

Did you guys watch the Pittsburgh Steelers last year? They did. They did not have a quarterback and they toed the line.

[Andy Holloway]

They would have been in the playoffs with the new rules. They, they were the first team on the outside. Yeah, no, that's a really good comp.

[Jason Moore]

All right, The Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills ended up drafting a running back in the third round, Zach Moss out of Utah. One of the, you know, speculative rookie additions that we've scouted, looked at. We assumed that it was a possibility. I think, I bet that they wouldn't take one or at least assume that they wouldn't take one. But they did. They took Zach Moss. This hurts the Devon Singletary shares to some degree. If you look at Moss just like a one for one replacement of Frank Gore, you still have to discern whether that's first half of the year Frank Gore or second half of the year Frank Gore, because one or the, you know, that made a huge difference in Singletary's production.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, they've already come out and talked about that. They've. They've basically out of their own mouths said that he's going to have that Frank Gore role and Devin Singletary will have that role. I fully expect that. They mean the first half of the year, you know, or towards the middle when it was more of a one, two punch. At the end of the year, it was pretty much all singletary they didn't spend a third rounder to not use Zach Moss. But this is. I mean, you want to talk about.

[Jason Moore]

Biggest rookie to start the year in.

[Andy Holloway]

That role, though, not at running back. I mean, running backs usually are granted that opportunity. They come right in. They don't have to learn like the tight ends do. And I think that you're going to have Zach Moss and Devin Singletary both be mostly disappointing in fantasy. And I think one of the biggest losers in the draft was Singletary because it looked really promising for him. Zach Moss was really the last name there that could have come on that day to get in his way. And I think this is going to be a real.

[Jason Moore]

Can I play?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, please do.

[Jason Moore]

The pick gap between Zach Moss and Joshua Kelly was really not that large. Joshua Kelly was the sixth pick of the fourth round. Zach Moss was the 22nd pick of the third round. We looked at Austin Eckler as a winner. We're looking at Devin Singletary as a loser.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Austin Eckler, you know, I mean, I think the difference of losing Melvin Gordon to losing Frank Gore is pretty significant. And also, you know, I've tried my best post draft to go through and watch all of the general managers and head coaches responses, reactions, their little press conferences to see what the situation was about drafting the players, specifically the running backs, because I think that's telling for rookie year. And the way that Zach Moss was talked about by them versus the way that Joshua Kelly is, is that Zach Moss is coming in to be the Frank Gore role and Devin Singletary, I mean, when they say that, I just have to go by it.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, did you have anything you wanted to add there?

[Mike Wright]

I mostly agree there with what Jason's talking about. I think Singletary will be. I think he'll still be a fine running back, too.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The Miami Dolphins, they drafted Tua in the first round. The fifth pick, new quarterback in town. Whether he takes over, gets an opportunity at all this season is yet to be determined. They did draft a tackle on the first to protect him eventually. And we're looking at. We talked about Jordan Howard as a potential winner in this draft because they did not. They were one of the teams that, on paper, I know Mike and I both had. I think we both had DeAndre Swift ending up in Miami. I don't know if Jason, you projected any of the rookies going to Miami as well, but this was a team that had an obvious need for a future running back. I don't think we consider Jordan Howard their future. So for Them not to invest in one to just trade for Breida. Howard ends up in a position where, you know, look, Breeda Howard, they're probably not going to be exciting options next year. We've been down the Bellage road before. It was not a great road. It was actually as bad of a road as it gets.

[Andy Holloway]

It's true.

[Mike Wright]

But Howard's actually a good running back.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he is an okay running back. Yeah, I think good, good running backs don't, don't shift teams thrice, you know, like the way he has. He was. They got rid of him in Chicago, they got rid of him in Philadelphia. And you know, I would not have supreme confidence in Howard having great opportunities because this offense last year, you're not going to pass the ball to Howard. And sure, Balaj couldn't catch the ball and we were disappointed in kind of the, hey, Balaj is the guy. So he'll be something.

[Mike Wright]

That highlight clip of Bellage dropping off. Oh, I need to go find that thing again. That'll cheer me up.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, so I'm not, I'm not that enthusiastic about Howard to begin with, but he was certainly a winner in the fact that his role is carved out.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he's a winner as far as when you draft Jordan Howard, you're not going to be happy about it. But he, I think he will still see a ton of opportunity. I think he'll see over 200 carries. Miami to me, did an excellent job in this draft. If I were running the Dolphins, I would, I would not have taken someone like DeAndre Swift either. I mean, they took two linemen within basically the first round that they got Robert Hunt here at the seventh pick in the second round. Like, I think they are building the team the right way to can completely redshirt this year. And the team is absolutely fine.

[Jason Moore]

They didn't take another skill player until the seventh round.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and that wasn't real. I mean, Malcolm Perry was, you know, the 32nd pick in the seventh round. They had 11 picks in the deepest wide receiver draft in a long, long time and they didn't take one. And to me, the biggest winner on the Dolphins is Preston Williams. I mean, sure, we already had, you know, Devonte Parker coming in as kind of the one here. But Preston Williams, a really good looking rookie last year who unfortunately had the knee injury, should be fine and healthy for this season. He's the clear too on this team. There's, you know, to me there, they didn't even try to bring someone in to compete. And when you got that Albert Wilson still there, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jason Moore]

Albert Wilson I think is still on the roster. But I mean he Devontae Parker Wilson and.

[Mike Wright]

And Gasicki Gosicki big like that's true. Gasicki is really going to be very, very interesting as your late round dart throw.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, that'd be very. They did not. They did what you said, Mike. It looks like they are sitting there realizing they get to retool the interior defense and then come back next year. And if they want to grab a bunch of skill players and just load up, they can do it. The New York jets now this isn't nice. This isn't nice. We the show Doc Kyle snuck in here, Adam Gase as a loser. But just because that's not. I'd actually. I think they had a good draft. I'll be honest with you.

[Mike Wright]

How much of that is related to them simply drafting Denzel Mims in the second round?

[Jason Moore]

Well, I think I love their first round pick. A going tackle there and then Mims I think has the opportunity to be maybe the most productive rookie wide receiver of the entire class this year. I am very possible, very excited about Denzel Mims opportunity with Sam Darnold and them drafting o line to start this draft. If you look at the rest of their wide receiver core, you're picking, you know, Jameson Crowder, Bashad Perryman. So there's opportunity there for Mims and he's a player that I think is just look if yes, he could be a Green Beckham of sorts, but I like the talent and ability and I just don't see clear path for some of these rookie wideouts the way I do for Mims. But winners and losers on this team. Is Darnold a winner? It didn't really feel like he's a winner. They didn't load up.

[Andy Holloway]

I think so, yeah, Winish. I think that he is a winner.

[Mike Wright]

In the sense the Winish.

[Andy Holloway]

The Winish in the sense that they got him, you know, their first two picks, right?

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. A highly rated offensive lineman and then a guy that Indidzel Mems we all really liked. Now it's crazy because he. He was the 13th wide receiver drafted, which is like.

[Jason Moore]

It felt like he dropped, I mean significantly. But then you look at the draft capital and it doesn't feel that way.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean it was a second rounder for the jets so that meant something to them. But obviously a lot of teams out there chose to pass on Mims over and over and over. Twelve of them, you know, so but, but yes, Sam Darnold is a winner here. His the first two rounds were giving him pieces.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The Baltimore Ravens coming off a 14 and two season they end up going JK Dobbins with their second round selection, running back out of Ohio State. Dobbins was the man. Dobbins was the fifth running back off the board. Went behind what Clyde Edwards, Allaire, Jonathan Taylor, DeAndre Swift and Cam Acres. Cam Akers but walks himself into struts himself into what seems to be a very, very good situation. And with that draft capital I can't help but really, really like him in rookie drafts.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah. I mean he. First of all you're going to a team breaking the you know team rushing records here because this is. Where do you want a running back to go more than the Baltimore Ravens. You've got Mark Ingram who's 30 years old. He's not going to be there forever and in fact they can basically it.

[Jason Moore]

Should be the last year for him, I think.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly. And in the meantime, you know, so if you're talking about a dynasty draft, I know Mike and I we co own and one we just drafted Dobbins, you know and so it was one of those like this season Mark Ingram is going to run ahead of Dobbins. You know that that's his role. He's the vet. He was fantastic last year. But I don't think Gus Edwards will run ahead of Dobbins. And you know Gus had 133 carries. So if you're talking about Dobbins being involved rookie year getting 150, 175 carries assuming everybody is healthy, I think that's realistic. Which is which you, you can be somewhat relevant there. But then long term the future on this team for such a productive running back. I just love the long term outlook for Dobbins.

[Jason Moore]

Anything to add Mike?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm very excited. Dobbins, I loved the talents of it of the player and the fact that he will get to run with Lamar Jackson on those read options. That's a part of the game that Dobbins is very, very successful with. He is a perfect fit at the running back position.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The Pittsburgh Steelers, they only had six picks in this draft. They invested two of their first three on skill players. Chase Clay, their first pick in the second round, 17th pick of the second round wide receiver out of Notre Dame. And then you have Anthony McFarland Jr. Running back out of Maryland in the fourth round. What was your reaction to those picks and who are the winners and losers on the Steelers roster.

[Mike Wright]

So I'm, I'm very interested in Chase Claypool. He was the, he went to the combine and absolutely just destroyed it with. We're talking Calvin Johnson size and speed. I'm not calling him Calvin Johnson, just saying the athletic measurables that was, that was the guy that he compared to where it was really, really eye opening for some people where Notre Dame, Notre Dame, they, they get. They have some wide receivers that go out and have very successful careers, but they never have like insane college production. You know, like Golden Tate, like Golden Tate Boykin last year went to the Ravens. Will Fuller, I mean like good wide receivers who. But they don't pop off the chart when you're just looking at their production and the fact that the Steelers grabbed him with their first pick where wide receiver wasn't seemingly one of their top needs. I mean, maybe, sure the team felt differently, but the fact that they went and got him, they have a very strong track record comparatively to the rest of the league of just they've really had some major, major hits at the wide receiver position. So Claypool rose on my draft board and especially the fact that at the draft it was announced Chase Claypool wide receiver. That was kind of one of the big things was will Claypool be forced into becoming a tight end and Pittsburgh did not view him that way.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Pittsburgh has a pretty good track record of drafting wide receivers. They're certainly not all hits. We were talking about that before the show, you know, 5050 on their track record, but that is still a pretty plus track record compared to most of the league. So when they took Chase Claypool is a little surprising. It was ahead of some other guys, ahead of Denzel Mims, you know, sorry, Jabe.

[Mike Wright]

And this is coming off the heels of the news before the draft was the team's going to let juju walk.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And obviously if juju were to walk and Claypool steps up, there's a massive value to be had here. So he is interesting.

[Jason Moore]

Just to be clear, that team has not said anything about juju Smith. There was rumors, one beat writer speculated that that could happen. This might position the Steelers in a better place. It's ironic because the Claypool draft pick could mean, you know, the end of the road for someone like James Washington, who was a high draft capital pick by them two years ago. Deontay Johnson last year. I think Deontay Johnson has a great future in Pittsburgh. So it'll be very interesting to watch this. I'm not, you know, we all know that the future at the quarterback position in Pittsburgh is going to, you know, Big Ben's not the guy.

[Mike Wright]

They still need to find it.

[Jason Moore]

They still need to find it. And this is a defensive team. I'm not enthusiastic about anything short term with Chase Claypool myself because of the quarterback situation and the guys above him. Kind of reminds me of the Jalen Hurd pick by San Francisco last year, which I believe was a second round pick as well. Or am I wrong?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think it was.

[Mike Wright]

I believe that's right. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And both kind of similar guys that might toe the line between wide receiver, tight end, be another asset to this team. They added Ebron, so in terms of year one, it's hard to see Claypool fitting in yet, but for the future, it's very possible.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then James Conner. Let's talk about Connor and Anthony McFarlane, because Connor could have been supplanted by an earlier pick, but they just didn't have the picks to do it. That's what it looks like to me.

[Andy Holloway]

So, I mean, this is a team that, you know, the two of their first three picks were focused on offense. They knew that they had a great defense and they needed to get some more explosive weapons. You just brought up Ebron in free agency. It's just ironic to me that you're replacing, you know, if. If you're saying we're going to bring another running back in here because obviously James Conner was injured all the time. You go out and you get Anthony McFarlane, who's not big, he's a little boy, and he's always been injured dating back to high school. Basically every year of his career, he's injured, but he's electric. Like, when he's out there, he is so fun to watch. Mike, you brought his name up pre draft as someone to watch. The Steelers are a really good landing spot for running back in general because of the health of James Conner. So I'm excited to see what McFarlane does here, but I didn't get too hyped, you know, it wasn't.

[Jason Moore]

He's a complimentary back. I think that that's the biggest thing. He's. You didn't have them, you know, draft a replacement for James Conner in this situation. The Cleveland Browns, okay. I mean, they got Baker some help on the offensive line if.

[Mike Wright]

Love it.

[Jason Moore]

You know, you. You talked a little bit about the Broncos, Mike. The fact that they're putting themselves in a position to see. Look, it's. It's Drew Locke's fault. Look, there's no way that this is not a make or break year for. For Baker Mayfield. If you have reinforced that offensive line, you have the weapons that you have on that team. Hooper, an off season acquisition. Beckham, Landry, apparently in Joku's back.

[Andy Holloway]

They also drafted Harrison Bryant. Another tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, tight end. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And so they. And they. And they ended up with an offensive tackle in the first round to help keep Baker upright. So this is a very make or break year for Baker. When I'm looking at my dynasty rankings, he was one of the biggest challenges because I have to decide when I'm ranking Baker. Does this guy have a long term future of the NFL or not? Am I taking him above an Aaron Rodgers in a dynasty league right now? And that's a difficult decision. Those guys fell in at the back.

[Mike Wright]

Of the Green Bay made it easier for you?

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah. Moving on. But was there anything else from the Browns that you guys wanted to talk about or.

[Mike Wright]

No. Is Baker is the big winner? To me, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The offensive line, left tackle in this draft and right tackle in free agency. So it's great.

[Jason Moore]

Not enough. We need at least three or four more tackles to keep Baker. The Bengals, they ended up with Joe Burrow. We know it number one overall. T. Higgins was their wide receiver pick of choice in the second round. So AJ Green, Tyler Boyd could have been worse for their situation, but I mean, Higgins feels like a compliment. In year one, you got Joe Mixon not being challenged by any running back draft picks. What were your takeaways from the Bengals draft?

[Andy Holloway]

I think that they're going to do their best to have an explosive offense. I mean, if you get A.J. brown back, A.J. green back on the field, you add T. Higgins, which is a huge play type of guy, to a team that has a great possession receiver and Tyler Boyd and the speed in John Ross. Joe Burrow to me looks set up to succeed. And you know, obviously Joe Mixon could catch the ball even though he didn't do that much last year. So I think they want an explosive offense here and I think Joe Burrow will eventually bring that. Will it happen year one? I don't know. But T. Higgins was also a really nice pick to pair with Burrow. You know, you had andy Dalton and A.J. green come in on the same year, and now you've got Joe Burrow and T. Higgins drafted together many years later, it feels similar. And listening to the Colts draft and watching Chris Ballard talk, you could tell that Michael Pittman, who went right after this to the Colts, it seemed like they were hinting that you know, they were eyeballing Higgins. They were sad. As soon as Higgins went, they knew they had to take their, you know, their other guy that was, you know, big, strong, fast wide receiver. So that, that, that honestly gives, I really respect Chris Ballard. And so you know, if they were eyeing him, that gives me even more confidence in Higgins as a prospect.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The Houston Texans only had five selections in this draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Arizona Cardinals GM Bill O'Brien didn't have, he didn't have too many picks to work with here. As far as fantasy goes, there was, you know, pretty much nothing. A fifth round wide receiver. They got a tackle in the, the mid rounds. But yeah, I would say, I would say biggest winner here is the Cardinals.

[Jason Moore]

All right. A team with much more draft capital here. Indianapolis Colts. Mike, you just talked about it. Their first pick was Michael Pittman Jr. Wide receiver out of USC. He's a big boy. He's a beast. He's going to be a very nice compliment for Ty Helton in another foundational piece for this team and its future. They also invested a second round pick on Jonathan Taylor out of Wisconsin. We have a couple of excited gentlemen here.

[Mike Wright]

Well, like the night of so round one, the draft ends. I posed the question to Twitter, you know, like where, where could someone go that has the possibility of unseating Clyde Edwards as the 101 pick in rookie drafts And Jonathan Taylor didn't get there for me. I still have Elairs, my number one guy, but Jonathan Taylor, after what seemed like a slam dunk 101, Jonathan Taylor made it a little bit more difficult. It's not necessarily this year. What's, what's, what's wild about these running backs and I wonder if Jason feels the same way as I do. Like five guys. I love the landing position for five players but it might not be this year that those five players become really fantasy relevant. And Jonathan Taylor's one of those guys. Marlon Mack will still be there. He's in a contract year. It's, it would surprise me if Marlon Mack gets completely beat out by Jonathan Taylor. And we're looking, it's just Jay Taylor and, and Nahim Hines as the two main guys. I think it'll be three guys. But long term, this team, this philosophy, this offensive line and Jonathan Taylor's skill set, it is, it is a perfect, perfect match for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So Jonathan Taylor was my number one as far as a prospect went pre draft. This offensive line is excellent. Obviously Marlon Mack been a thousand yard rusher was last year, almost the year before. And so you know there is competition in the backfield. He doesn't just come in and inherit it. However, listening to Chris Ballard talk this was really enlightening because they were considering Jonathan Taylor at the second pick of the second round at the Pitman, he was one of the guys they were deciding between. And I think the T. Higgins going is what made them take Pittman. But then they still had a chance. And what happened was, and this is interesting, Irsay, the owner, he had it on good authority that the Jaguars were at least that's the insinuated team because he said, you know, it was in division and that's the team they traded right up ahead of. We're going to take Jonathan Taylor. And so you know, they, he called, he called Chris Ballard and said, hey, this guy, you've been talking about him all off season, go get them. And so when you, when you hear that this is someone that they were considering taking with their first pick, which was basically a one, and then they trade up to get him still early in the second. And now some quotes coming out about, you know, you need multiple running backs but you know, it's really advantageous to have a three down skill set where you can be on the field all the time. I mean to me on this offense that I like, I love Frank Reich, I love the offensive line, I love the talent of Jonathan Taylor. It's a near home run. And I agree with you Mike, this year you've got Marlon Mack still involved, but he won't be there next year.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you still have Jordan Wilkins on the roster, Naim Hines as well. And we saw this last year with when Mack went down, you saw when Mack went down, Jonathan Williams was in the backfield too. So they kind of mixed and matched behind them. They needed another big guy to come in that can carry the load. It'll be interesting to see what this year looks like with Mack and the rest of the backfield and then moving forward. You know, Phillips, Philip Rivers is not going to be there forever. So it'll be interesting what they do at the quarterback position with this offense.

[Andy Holloway]

They did draft Jacob Eason.

[Jason Moore]

He could be the quarterback of the future.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's, he's actually.

[Jason Moore]

We'll find out for a, for a.

[Mike Wright]

Low draft, capital quarterback. It's interesting.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Jacksonville, let's talk about the Jags first round pick. They did not spend it on a skill position player, no running back, no wide receiver off the board. They did take a wide receiver in the second round. Chenault.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they grabbed Leviska and you know.

[Jason Moore]

They did not make a splash at the running back position despite trying to give Leonard Fournette away. What's. What's funny is last year, Leonard Fournette seemed to be the default offensive weapon. Not necessarily by choice, but they didn't have anybody else and he just took up the mantle. And for fantasy owners, I don't care if you like. It doesn't matter if the team likes him or not. Then the draft comes and goes and they have tons of draft picks. 12 draft picks, and they don't take.

[Andy Holloway]

A running back, not one.

[Jason Moore]

So you're in this position again where it's like, if there's smoke and there's fire to this, we don't like Leonard Fournette. Evidence.

[Andy Holloway]

It don't matter because.

[Jason Moore]

Because he's going to be default okay for fantasy again unless they find a free agent running back to.

[Mike Wright]

That's my concern, honestly, like, the Jags will be a team that I expect.

[Andy Holloway]

What free agent running back like, well.

[Mike Wright]

They had Hyde a little bit ago. Maybe he comes back shady. McCoy says he still wants to play a few more years.

[Jason Moore]

Lamar Miller's still out there.

[Mike Wright]

Lamar Miller is coming off of his.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, none of those names to me are going to worry me about the fantasy relevance of Fournette. This to me seems.

[Jason Moore]

Well, if he's cut, his relevance.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yes, I would completely agree with you there. If he's cut, I will change my opinion of his fantasy outlook. But as it is now on this roster, currently post free agency, currently post the NFL draft, I mean, he is the guy again and it's kind of shocking. And he's in the, you know, they won't care about, you know, saving his legs or just run him into the ground because, you know, you don't necessarily expect him to be there. So I think he'll, you know, unless major things change in free agency, the rest of the.

[Jason Moore]

Devonta Freeman's still out there, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

They're just, They're a team I'm going to watch. I'll agree with you guys if we just de facto into Fournette as the guy. All right, fine. I'll be interested again for fantasy purposes. And then Gardner Minshew.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they didn't take a shot at another.

[Mike Wright]

They traded Nick Foles away. They. And it was. That was like a hypothesis of, okay, they're on the board in the top 10 and one of the QBs is there. Do they. Do they take that shot and they said no and they're all in on garter they got him another weapon. They got another lineman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would not be excited about the long term situation for Dede right now with the higher draft capital pick of Chanel and having chart there. So that would be somebody that I would consider to be a dynasty loser. Not seeing D take advantage last year and the team seems to want to get another weapon. Let's talk about the Tennessee Titans. Is this the final team we have, Brooks?

[Mike Wright]

It is, yes, sir.

[Jason Moore]

The last AFC team. Winners and losers, Tennessee. Okay. I mean Darrington Evans, interesting third round pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he goes into that Dion Lewis role. So, you know, I think that's the replacement. Younger, faster, not Dion. Yeah, it's a decent role. He'll probably have more fantasy relevance than Dion Lewis did at the, you know, last season.

[Jason Moore]

That's not saying a whole lot, but yeah, they just chose to replace him in the draft and he's a. He's a pretty good complimentary player.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Is Corey Davis still alive, like physically?

[Mike Wright]

As far as I know. I haven't heard any rumors.

[Jason Moore]

Well, no, Mike, I didn't mean physically. That's not a. We don't joke about things like that, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean they took a right tackle in the first round, which is important because they lost Jack Conklin. So, you know, trying to replace that for the most part. I think what you're going to see for Tennessee going forward is the same exact offense that you had last year. Now, whether or not they'll succeed as much, they certainly probably won't when it comes to just their touchdown rate in the red zone, things like that that were outlandishly high. But I think you're going to have the same desire. So is Cord Davis alive? Well, he's probably going to be similarly used as he was last year, which is.

[Jason Moore]

We know what he is now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly. We know what he is. This is A.J. brown's and Derek Henry's offense.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Stay tuned, Book man. We'll be back in a couple days. Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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