NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers

Podcast Information:

• Title: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast
• Host/Author: Fantasy Football
• Episode: NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers
• Release Date: April 30, 2020

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Introduction and Announcements

Andy Holloway kicks off the episode with a warm welcome, introducing his co-hosts, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. The trio delves into the latest NFL Draft news, emphasizing upcoming clan events and celebrating their ongoing community support.

Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway [00:25]: "NFC winners and losers. On today's show, gonna talk some news, couple exciting announcements."
• Andy Holloway [07:01]: "We're here to break down all the latest going on in footballers world."

Buy or Sell Dynasty Edition

The segment begins with Andy introducing a "Buy or Sell" segment focused on dynasty leagues. They discuss the prospects of various players based on their recent performances and team dynamics.

1. Aaron Jones

• Jason Moore [09:17]: "I was already selling Aaron Jones because of his touchdown numbers and not believing that he will repeat as well as he did last year."
• Mike Wright [09:47]: "I don't think he will be back. The market for free agent running back doesn't have big money contracts anymore."

Conclusion: Both hosts agree to sell Aaron Jones, citing concerns about his future performance and contract prospects.

2. Keenan Allen

• Andy Holloway [10:22]: "If I knew he was back in Green Bay, he'd be a buy for me. But I don't think he's back. So I'll sell it."
• Mike Wright [13:00]: "I'm going to buy into the talent of Allen, hope that Herbert is good enough."

Conclusion: Mike Wright opts to buy Keenan Allen, valuing his talent and potential low draft price, while Jason Moore views him as a sell due to uncertainties about his performance consistency.

3. Tyler Lockett

• Andy Holloway [13:52]: "I think I'm trying to move Tyler Lockett if I can."
• Mike Wright [14:12]: "I'm going to buy him. I'm not buying him as a foundational piece, but I think Metcalf is legit."

Conclusion: Mike Wright decides to buy Tyler Lockett as a flex option, whereas Andy Holloway considers selling him, prioritizing DK Metcalf's ascending trajectory.

4. Juju Smith-Schuster

• Andy Holloway [16:01]: "I'm going to buy him because regardless of what happens with his contract... his talent is better than the value right now in Dynasty."
• Jason Moore [17:04]: "I'm right there with you, Andy. I still believe juju is extremely talented."

Conclusion: Both hosts agree to buy Juju Smith-Schuster, highlighting his established talent and potential despite contractual uncertainties.

5. Evan Ingram (Evan McPherson)

• Andy Holloway [18:07]: "All the talent, all the entries in the world. What do we think? Buy, sell."
• Mike Wright [19:11]: "I will buy because there aren't many tight ends that can be the focal part of their offense."

Conclusion: Mike Wright chooses to buy Evan Ingram, valuing his role in the Giants' offense, while Andy Holloway opts to sell due to injury concerns and limited fantasy impact.

News and Updates

Taysom Hill's Position Change:

• Andy Holloway [20:52]: "Taysom Hill is now tight end flex eligible in ESPN, reflecting his versatile role."
• Mike Wright [23:15]: "I think the change should be made when a guy has 22 targets and threw the ball six times."

Conclusion: The hosts agree that reclassifying Taysom Hill as a tight end flex reflects his multifaceted contributions to the Saints, though Jason Moore remains indifferent to drafting him for fantasy purposes.

NFC Winners & Losers Analysis

The hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the NFL draft's impact on NFC teams, categorizing players and decisions as winners or losers based on their potential fantasy impact.

NFC West

San Francisco 49ers:

• Winner: Bijan Robinson - Jason Moore [25:30]: "Mostert is actually a winner in the draft."
• Loser: Dante Pettis - Andy Holloway [26:43]: "Him. Would you rather have Jalen Hurd... or Dante Pettis on your bench."

Seattle Seahawks:

• Winner: Lack of significant picks makes identifying winners difficult.
• Loser: Absence of a running back draft pick - Andy Holloway [27:54]: "They did not draft a running back."

Los Angeles Rams:

• Winner: Cam Akers - Andy Holloway [28:03]: "Akers has the ability to carve out a large share of this offense."
• Loser: Darrell Henderson - Andy Holloway [29:43]: "Darrell Henderson didn't establish himself."

NFC East

Philadelphia Eagles:

• Winner: Miles Sanders - Jason Moore [36:50]: "He is the biggest winner for the Eagles."
• Loser: Desean Jackson - Jason Moore [35:41]: "Desean Jackson feels like a huge loser for the Eagles."

Notable Pick:

• Jalen Reagor: Jason Moore [34:33]: "He can still have success in redraft leagues."

NFC North

Green Bay Packers:

• Winner: Daniel Jones - Jason Moore [42:21]: "Daniel Jones is a winner whenever he can stay upright."
• Loser: Aaron Rodgers - Jason Moore [45:35]: "Aaron Rodgers is the biggest loser because he has had no help."

Chicago Bears:

• Winner: David Montgomery - Jason Moore [52:28]: "He's going to carry the ball and outperform expectations."
• Loser: Evan Ingram - Andy Holloway [19:19]: "I'm out on Evan Ingram."

NFC South

Washington Redskins:

• Winner: Terry McLaurin - Andy Holloway [43:40]: "Terry McLaurin is a very big winner here."
• Loser: Antonio Gibson - Mike Wright [43:40]: "Gibson is going to be like an Austin Ekeler."

Carolina Panthers:

• Overall: Limited impact from draft picks; focus remains on team needs rather than fantasy relevance.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers:

• Winner: Tom Brady - Mike Wright [60:57]: "Tom Brady's a winner."
• Loser-ish: Ronald Jones - Andy Holloway [61:10]: "Ronald Jones is a temperamental running back."

Notable Pick:

• Keyshawn Vaughn: Mike Wright [63:45]: "Vaughn is a first-round rookie pick with high upside."

Team-Specific Highlights

Dallas Cowboys:

• Winner: Dak Prescott - Andy Holloway [40:13]: "So he's one of the biggest winners in the draft."
• Loser-ish: Michael Gallup - Jason Moore [39:16]: "He's definitely a big loser from being able to step into a dominant role."

New York Giants:

• Winner: Miles Sanders - consistently highlighted as the draft's biggest winner for the Giants.
• Loser: Evan Ingram - Due to injury concerns and limited fantasy impact.

Detroit Lions:

• Winner: DeAndre Swift - Mike Wright [55:36]: "Swift will be up in the fourth round at least."
• Loser: D'Andre Swift is seen as a potential future asset rather than an immediate fantasy impact.

Trade Discussion

Mike Wright discusses a trade involving Odell Beckham Jr., swapping draft picks for DeAndre Swift and Michael Pittman. The hosts evaluate the fairness and potential outcomes of this trade.

• Jason Moore [56:34]: "I think it's a completely fair trade and I would go with Odell Beckham."
• Andy Holloway [57:25]: "If you were building for the future, Swift and Mims are preferable, but Beckham offers better immediate value."

Conclusion: The trade is deemed fair, with Beckham providing immediate value, while Swift and Pittman offer long-term potential.

Closing Remarks

The hosts wrap up the episode by thanking their listeners, highlighting their ongoing support during challenging times, and teasing future episodes centered around dynasty leagues and further draft analysis.

Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway [66:43]: "Pristineauction.com use the code ballers when you head over to pristineauction.com to get a $10 credit and that'll help you."

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Key Takeaways:

• Sell: Aaron Jones, Keenan Allen, Tyler Lockett, Evan Ingram.
• Buy: Juju Smith-Schuster, Keenan Allen (depending on perspective), Tyler Lockett (from Mike Wright's view).
• Winners: Miles Sanders (Eagles), Daniel Jones (Packers), Cam Akers (Rams), David Montgomery (Bears), Tom Brady (Buccaneers), Dak Prescott (Cowboys), Justin Jefferson (Vikings).
• Losers: Aaron Rodgers (Packers), Michael Gallup (Cowboys), Desean Jackson (Eagles), Evan Ingram (Giants).
• Trades: Discussion on Odell Beckham Jr. trade highlights the balance between immediate and long-term fantasy value.

The Fantasy Footballers provide a comprehensive analysis of the NFC draft, offering valuable insights for fantasy football enthusiasts looking to optimize their teams based on the latest NFL developments.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

This is hall of Fame and Marshall Falk, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah, welcome in the Fantasy Footballers. Back with you, Thursday, April 30th. Mike the fantasy hitman, right? Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway, NFC winners and losers. On today's show, gonna talk some news, couple exciting announcements. How are you two fine, quarantined gentlemen doing?

[Jason Moore]

I'm doing excellent. How about you, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

I'm doing all right.

[Jason Moore]

The.

[Mike Wright]

My draft buzz is definitely wearing off.

[Andy Holloway]

A little bit coming down off the draft.

[Mike Wright]

I am. So I'm very excited for the show because as we talk through the winners and the. I guess the losers as we have dubbed them, I don't know, maybe I can. Maybe I can get a little bit more of that juice flowing through my body.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, I mean, it's been a very fun week of NFL chatter, and then that's been combined by some rookie drafts that we've been a part of.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, my rookie. Maybe that's where I'm. I'm like, I'm on my rookie draft hangover. They're done. I've got my guys, and now I have to wait forever to see if they pay off.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, not everybody does that. That's actually one of the questions we get a lot is when do I. When do you know? When should your league do a rookie draft? Should it be a part of the big startup draft and those type of things?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the advice we always give is that it has to come after at least. You cannot do your rookie drafts or even your startup drafts until after the NFL draft. But that advice to us means as soon as the NFL draft is over, we're like, let's go. So not everybody does it this quick, which, to be fair, I think a lot of leagues probably want more time. They want to be able to listen to shows like this the week after, get the takes on the rookies. So if you haven't had your rookie draft yet or you don't even play in Dynasty, you know, you're new to the show and you're just wanting to have information on rookies. This is a great primer. And we've already been through our rookie draft, so we're good to go.

[Mike Wright]

It's probably better to wait on your rookie draft because things in August look a lot different than they do right now. Like, even as confident as we are in certain players right now, I'm sure August will shake up some depth charts and guys will Move around, but this is as long as I can wait.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the draft is done in our leagues. I mean, we do this professionally. This is our full time gig for, you know, half a decade now. We kind of want to get this thing going before all the league mates have a chance to catch up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, we do.

[Jason Moore]

I am not lying. Like, if we could get this up before our ultimate draft kit rankings are up, that's great. Give me who I won't.

[Mike Wright]

We do kind of force the rookie draft to start on Sunday before you.

[Andy Holloway]

Release your rookie rankings.

[Mike Wright]

The rookie rankings are coming out on Monday. Like you buttholes aren't getting this.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say one of the other things that is really fun in our main league of record is we have a three keeper league. And every year, the way our keeper format is, some people I think like hearing about this format. And we have a franchise player that you select and then we have three keepers that go into a keeper lottery for that team and only two of those three get selected to stay on your team. So we have a big fun league event. We did it this year live on Zoom and everyone was there.

[Jason Moore]

How'd it go for you, Andy?

[Andy Holloway]

This was the first time I've actually just taken it on the chin. I took the rules for our league is you have the ability to franchise a player, but you cannot put any player of a of that same position into your keeper lottery. So this year against, I mean, I was down to the wire saying, do I franchise Joe Mixon and then have a keeper lottery of Mahomes and Woods and Debo Samuel? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Often the decision you make is do I make sure I have my best player?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Or do I, do I spin the wheel and see that I can get the best possible keepers as a group?

[Andy Holloway]

And I took the chance. This year I franchise Mahomes. I have a bunch of picks and I said, let's throw mixing into the keeper lottery with David Montgomery and Robert Woods. And look, this was not an easy decision. You know, it's not easy. If I go to Twitter with the question, like, that's not a good outcome for a situation. And I went to Twitter, I explained it. The vote came in on the Mahomes side. I'm like, ah, it's only a 1/3 chance of losing mix and I'll be fine. I'm fine every year when I take this chance and I finally, my luck ran out and it was inevitable at one point in time, you know, for it to do that. But unfortunately, you know, Jason's happy. He's in my division, I lose Joe Mixon. I love Joe Mixon too, and you guys know that. And it makes me so sad now.

[Jason Moore]

My only hope is that he gets to pick eight.

[Andy Holloway]

My only hope is that he holds out now because I don't care anymore.

[Jason Moore]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Just hold out and make me happy. But hey, big news. We've had our ultimate draft kit prize pack winner selection. So I want to announce those winners. Kevin W. You are the winner of the listener league spot in ours. Yeah, Listener league winner. Emails have gone out to these people. So if you are another Kevin W. But didn't get an email, you lost. This is a winners and losers show. And unfortunately there was only one spot. Jesus M. Won the video draft review. Ben S. Won the Julian Edelman jersey and William D. That must be Defoe. William Defoe.

[Jason Moore]

That is correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no, that's Willem. Huh? Devonte Adams, mini helmet.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. It is Willem.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Willem, right?

[Mike Wright]

It is. I'm just laughing.

[Andy Holloway]

There's taking letters out of normal names.

[Mike Wright]

I'm glad I didn't chime in because.

[Andy Holloway]

You looked the fool when I said.

[Mike Wright]

William don't know Willem Dafoe. I corrected pretty Gary Hollywood Honk.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know the hunk.

[Andy Holloway]

The hunk part. Mike, you jumped the shark on that one.

[Mike Wright]

I like alliteration. Willem Dafoe is one of the most giftable people of all time. Like his reaction gifts where his eyes are going insane. Yes, those are fantastic.

[Andy Holloway]

He's terrifying. Twitter @ the FF Ballers. You can follow the show. All the latest going on in footballers world. YouTube you can find us YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. Make sure you subscribe. Click the bell. We like to go live with some special events on there and then the episodes are on there. Highlights are on there. And I did want to say this at the top of the show. We've got Buy Sell. We're going to get into answer some questions here in Dynasty. We'll do some Dynasty Buy Sell. But I just want to say thank you to all of the supporters that joined the Foot.com this is a difficult, strange time for our country. This is a difficult time for a lot of people financially, their jobs, all of the things that people are facing. And what's interesting too is like this show and podcasts in general are very much a part of routines in people's lives. And a lot of those routines are the commute to and from work and we're all at home. But I don't know, I've just been personally humbled and blown away by the people that have come and supported our little business and our employees and our people supporting the show over there. Just genuinely thank you for all that you've done for this podcast over the last five years. I mesmerized.

[Jason Moore]

Is undefeated in every which way. And just so you really are the best people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you really are. So I'm just blown away. Really appreciate it. I know I speak for all of us when I say that. Let's do some Buy.

[Mike Wright]

Sell.

[Jason Moore]

Buy or Sell. Presented by Pristine Auction.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I thought this would be fun. We're going to do a five pack of Buy or Sell Dynasty Edition.

[Mike Wright]

I'm glad you picked a bunch of easy names.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say you don't get to linger very long here, Mike, because we've got to get into the NFC winners and losers. So this is quick reaction, some insight and then we'll move on. But we're doing Buy or Sell Dynasty Edition. The NFL draft just happened. Aaron Jones. Buying or selling Aaron Jones.

[Jason Moore]

So I was already selling Aaron Jones because of his touchdown numbers and the, you know, not believing that he will repeat as well as he did this last year he was the running back three and half point scoring format. So I was already a sell. Now they spent a day to pick on A.J. dillon. Questions about whether you know, they'll resign him long term. I do. I know you two do not think that they'll sign him to a big contract. I think Aaron Jones will get paid and we'll get kept. But I, I'm definitely a sell on, on Aaron Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Interesting. So if you think that's tough for me to put together, the reason he's a sell for me. Yeah, that's why he's a sell for me is I don't think he will be back. And we've just seen it too many times now. The market for free agent running back, don't buy into it. Don't, don't gamble on that. Like the big money contracts don't exist anymore. Teams are getting savvier and just replacing that position in the draft. So that, that's why he's a sell to me. So I think it's interesting that you think he will be back with Green Bay but you still want to sell him. Is that just because you think he's at peak value?

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. I mean it's irrelevant. If he had, if he had a four year contract right now, I would say he's a sell to me because I think his value from last year won't be repeated. Especially considering the fact that where his value came from was touchdown dependent. And A.J. dillon, that's kind of at least the projection of his NFL career as that giant, you know, 240 pound bruising goal line guy.

[Andy Holloway]

If I knew he was back in Green Bay, he'd be a buy for me. He's 25 years old and I think the identity of that team is going to be running the football. I think that's what they want to do. But I don't think he's back. So I'll sell it. Keenan Allen Buy. Sell. Dynasty edition. 28 years old Herbert at quarterback most likely for some part of this season. I know I said earlier in the off season that I thought Herbert would win the job out of camp. I'm going to partially retract that prediction because I don't know what camp's going to look like. So if there's not a lot of time, then Herbert may not have the time to establish himself the way a normal off season would go. That being said, okay, Keenan gets Tyrod, Keenan gets Herbert. Keenan gets some combination of not Philip Rivers and you know, he's been okay, but you look back to Last year weeks five on wide receiver 27 with Philip Rivers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Keenan Allen is also a sell to me. I'm looking at this list and he's a guy that I wasn't super high on. I don't think Tyrod or Herbert, I'm not, you know, I was kind of anti Herbert in the scouting phase. So I just, I just don't believe that he is going to get the volume and the accuracy that he's had. And that takes a lot for me to speak fondly of Philip Rivers.

[Mike Wright]

I that the rich were he paid your guys' stance. That's why Keenan Allen is a buy to me right now. I feel like the dynasty is just soured on a guy who, yes, he was the wide receiver 27 from weeks five on but finished as the wide receiver 8 wide receiver 12 wide receiver 3. The two years before this. I Keenan Allen is a is a great wide receiver. So I'm just going to buy into the talent of Allen, hope that Herbert is good enough. Meanwhile, while everyone out there is like ah, I got to get Keenan on off my team. If I can pick him up for something relatively cheap, then I'll buy.

[Jason Moore]

You bring up a good point that you're buying into the talent because I don't think any of the three of us think Keenan Allen has lost anything or isn't a great Route Runner isn't a great receiver. He is very good. So if you can buy him low, I mean that's. All of these buy sells are relative to, you know, the value you're getting back.

[Andy Holloway]

You've seen Alan Robinson's talent win out fantasy production wise despite bad quarterback play. So there are those players that can do it.

[Mike Wright]

Well, the Keenan Allen thing too is also like as of last year, I think people were still concerned that Keenan Allen just could never be healthy because you had those, those two seasons where he played half, then he played one game, but since that time he's appeared in every single game.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Tyler Lockett. Tyler Lockett. Buy. Sell. I man, I think I'm trying to move Tyler Lockett if I can.

[Mike Wright]

Interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

He's obviously a valuable piece of this team. A low passing volume situation. I think DK Metcalf is legitimate and will continue to ascend in this league. And so Lockett will have his big games, but I don't know if I want to lean on him. So I'll go ahead and sell.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to buy. I'm not buying him as a foundational piece of my team, but I think that Metcalf is legit.

[Andy Holloway]

But would you rather have Lockett or Keenan Allen in a dynasty league today?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's a, that's a fascinating question. I think it's still Keenan Allen just because of the possible outcome of him still being the one where Lockett and Metcalf will split in that split will become more and more even and honestly the split could favor DK Metcalf sooner than later. But, but, but I still think Lockett has his value, but much, very, very similar to Russell Wilson. I know what I'm getting into. I don't think I'm getting into a weekly consistent, a consistently high producer on a week to week basis. That's why he's not the foundation of, of my team. But if he's like the third wide receiver or he might flex or something like that, then I'm buying.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, to me I still think Tyler Lockett is a good receiver with a great quarterback. But when I made my dynasty rankings this last week, I had DK Metcalf like if I, if I have to choose Metcalf or Lockett on that own team, I'm taking Metcalf higher. He's younger and I think his, his ceiling is higher going forward. So I, you know, to me Tyler Lockett's a hold, but if we have to say buy or sell, I would be selling him because I think he's going to turn into the two.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike and I were just a little bit distracted. We thought, we thought you were saying he had a very nice quarterback but.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Russ, that's what I was saying. Russell Wilson, he has a very nice quarterback but juicy booty.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess that's possible. I don't know as well as you're more the be the more the expert in that department.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You got to get a peak ski of that. That Wilson derrier power.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a famous quote. Now Juju Smith Schuster, probably one of the more polarizing decisions for fantasy owners to make. In fact, when I have done some exploratory trade offers in a number of leagues, Juju is the player that I don't know what people actually think about him when I approach for that trade. I don't know if you are still in. I don't know if you're trying to get out of juju. And so you know, for me I'm going to buy. I'm going to buy the fact that a player at his age put up a 1400 plus yard season. That's not easy to do. I don't care if you have Antonio Brown on the other side of the field. I don't care if you're in a very conducive offense. That is not normal. You don't put up 1400 plus yards in the NFL at his age. If people are going to downgrade him in Dynasty considerably, which is what I have seen in Dynasty startup rankings where this guy was what, a top three pick last year?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yeah. He was stepping up to be the overall number one wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

What? I don't know exactly what rankings you're looking at but I think he's down in the low teens now. Maybe lower.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm going to buy him because regardless of what happens with his contract with Big Ben, I believe that the talent of juju is better than the value right now in Dynasty.

[Jason Moore]

I'm right there with you, Andy. It's tough. There's the rumors floating of will they not even extend him. They draft Chase Claypool. But I'm going with the talent. I mean I still believe juju is extremely talented. You know, Deontay Johnson looks like the real deal. But juju I believe I want to vet this because it seems impossible is still younger than Deontay Johnson. Juju is such a young wide receiver who's already had two dominant.

[Mike Wright]

He's still younger.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

He has always.

[Jason Moore]

He has always been. I will, I will vet that as.

[Mike Wright]

We go, he was older last year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he just got.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he took a year off because they lost the quarterback. So he's like pause life. But yeah, I mean, look, he's super talented. If Big Ben comes back, I think he is a buy.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I'm going to buy to Evan.

[Andy Holloway]

Ingram, tight end, New York Giants. All the talent, all the entries in the world. What do we think? Buy, sell. Dynasty league.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like the eternal optimist right now, which is a little strange to live in this land. But I'm going to buy him for the reasons you said. In eight games he was the tight end seven in points per game. Was the tight end seven points per game the year before that and had the rookie breakout year. He hasn't been able to stay on the field, but like I just mentioned for Keenan Allen that he had two years in a row where he was written off as this dude's just going to be hurt his entire career. Daniel Jones looks like a stable franchise quarterback who was going to Evan Ingram. So I will buy because they're just. There aren't many tight ends that can be the focal part of their offense.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm out. I'm out on Evan Ingram. If I get at best tight end 7 in points per game and I get the injury concerns, I'm out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the injury concerns are there. I would sell him. I think he still think he can net you good value and I do. I worry just like the Giants do of whether or not. Whether or not he's. He's going to be on the field and be able to help me. And he, you know, because when he's been on the field, he's been good. I think he'll still carry value. I don't think he's like a super bi low candidate right now. So while he's not at peak value, I'm willing to sell him. Also, I have vetted the date of births for Juju and fluctuating date of births. Yeah. And according to today, juju Smith Schuster is still younger than their rookie last season, Deontay Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

So we'll see what happens with those ages moving forward.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

We'll check back in next year. That had the weird birth, was it Cameron Artist pain?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Got way older over time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. A couple years in, it came out that his birthday was wrong on everything. Like, it's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

I think it's a fine call. I just don't care, you know, he's not going to be someone I draft to play. Maybe, you know, Andy, in your situation or in a deeper dynasty league where you've got tight end problems, that's a situation where maybe in a pinch you could play Taysom Hill. But it's not going to be a relevant player for most people. So I, whatever.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that can change. I think that can change like you saw towards the back half of last year. And you are going to benefit in the tight end position of his passing work if he gets an opportunity to throw the football. Do you think Sleeper should make the change? Other platforms like Yahoo should make the change. Mike.

[Mike Wright]

I think the change should be made when a guy has what we had 22 targets and he threw the ball six times. Like, yeah, he's not, he's. He's not being played as a quarterback. I get that. His, his designation by the team is that. But we play walks like a duck.

[Jason Moore]

And it quacks like a duck.

[Andy Holloway]

Right?

[Mike Wright]

Like we play a silly game based on another game. It's, it's okay if we change some things around on our side, but I'm, I'm with Jason that I mostly don't care. I don't see him working his way up to being a player where you're like, I'm starting Taysom Hill every single week as well.

[Andy Holloway]

They did just move. They, they signed Jameis Winston and they paid Taysum Hill. So they don't have the flexibility issues about Taysum Hill being the backup and not being able to be used as much. So there's the possibility of snap count goes up. Lynn Bowden, number 80 overall pick from the Raiders, has been designated as a running back. Is that correct?

[Mike Wright]

That is.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to mention that, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, because people are doing the rookie dress. When he was picked, he was kind of a similar real Swiss army knife type of guy where you're like, are they going to make him a RB wide receiver, quarterback? What are they going to do with Lynn Bowden? But so now you know, he will be categorized it as their third string running back.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get into the NFC winners and losers.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, rookie, welcome to the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's start in the NFC west, the San Francisco 49ers, they spent a first round pick on Brandon Iuk out of Arizona State. Wide receiver. Lots of wide receivers to choose from in this draft, in my opinion, and as a Cardinals fan, I'm annoyed by it. But of the ones that they needed to pick, a little strange that they didn't jump at CD Lam early and they traded down. So I guess in that sense I'm happy. But Brandon Iuk, where they got him, the player that he is, the average depth of target of Jimmy Garoppolo, it's a perfect fit. To me, who's the winner. Who's the loser in this offense? Based on their draft selection, I think.

[Jason Moore]

The winners, you know, Mostert is actually a winner in the draft. They decided to trade Matt Burrida. Now, granted, they also have Derek McKinnon.

[Mike Wright]

And yeah, McKinnon is still around.

[Jason Moore]

My name is Jeff. I mean, Tevin Coleman, it's a giant group, but getting Burrito out of there I think helps Moster and Tevin Coleman the most. Outside of that, I mean, I don't, I don't see Debo as a winner or a loser. This was fine. You knew they were going to pick up another wide receiver in this draft. It's a good landing spot for iuk. You know, I think you could argue that Jimmy Garoppolo gets, you know, gets a touch up because they drafted a first round wide receiver that he doesn't.

[Mike Wright]

Really have to throw the ball very far for.

[Jason Moore]

Right. It is perfect for him. Right. He's like a CD Lamb type in the sense that. Just so great after the catch. And that's what the Niners want. They want that ball to either be handed to someone or virtually handed to someone. Or virtually handed to someone.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks, do you want to say, I mean, you want to say anything about Dante Pettis right now? I know that. I really don't. You really don't. Are you willing to. Are you writing a goodbye letter? Are you still on team Pettis?

[Mike Wright]

If I have him in a dynasty.

[Andy Holloway]

League, which of course I do.

[Mike Wright]

He's. He's hanging out on my bench.

[Andy Holloway]

Him. Would you rather have Jalen Hurd, who's now recovered, or Dante Pettis on. On your bench in a dice?

[Mike Wright]

I'll stick with Pettis.

[Jason Moore]

In that case, I take her.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this. I have Dante Pettis on. On. You know, Mike and I, we co own a team and we were looking at drops and he's. He's still on our team after this, but obviously, you know, we'd love to.

[Andy Holloway]

Replace not on purpose.

[Mike Wright]

We looked and he was just still there.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, I agree with you, Jason. I think the most are Mostert's a winner. It gives me more confidence to acquire him in leagues knowing that. Look, McKinnon has to overcome a lot to come back and have a big role. Jeff Wilson has a limited role. Mostert and Coleman are going to be the two that are the focus of this offense in the running game and that's.

[Mike Wright]

Enjoy it.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a lot of handoffs. So Seattle, the Seahawks, what do we think of this draft? You got Any winners and losers. I mean they didn't replace. I think the big storyline with Seattle is that they did not draft a running back. It should say something. Yes, correct. They did not draft on high fourth round pick D.J. dallas.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they got D. Yeah, they got D.J. dallas and I really feel like should.

[Andy Holloway]

Have gone to the Cowboys just for sure. That's a rule.

[Mike Wright]

But I see, I see what should.

[Jason Moore]

Have happened with Goddard too. But you know the NFL has no respect for the Cowboys.

[Mike Wright]

The like Dallas becomes an interesting third round rookie pick because like Rashad Penny is hoping he's ready to go in September. Chris Carson might be ready come training camp. I agree with you guys that the.

[Andy Holloway]

Team is showing feel confident in Carson's return.

[Mike Wright]

The team is showing confidence, but this is also a team that when if a player shows up, they don't care about their, their draft pedigree. They don't care how much a player is getting paid if they are the better player and they're ready to go. Like so. So I'm saying Chris Carson, yes, I have some more confidence that he should be ready to go. But if all of a sudden week one shows up and DJ Dallas is the starter of this team, it won't, it won't shock me.

[Andy Holloway]

That would shock me.

[Jason Moore]

That would shock me as well.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The Rams Cam Acres, their first selection in the NFL draft, running back out of Florida State, jumped off the screen to me as, as one of my favorite running backs in this rookie class, has a great opportunity here coming into Los Angeles. You know, the loser on that side of the equation is Darrell Henderson, somebody that we also liked coming out of college last year. Didn't establish himself last year behind Gurley. So it looks like a little bit of a 2, 3 headed monster heading into 2020. I believe acres has the ability to carve out a large share of this offense at some point in time. What was your reaction to them going running back so early?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was indicative of what they believe they have in their current group because you know, a lot of people wanted them to go forward with Malcolm Brown and Darnell Anderson, AKA Daryl Henderson. You know who they traded up for last year in the third and you wanted Darnell. He was a guy.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to say it like that and then it's funnier, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

But if you look at what the Rams did last year in the season, they had every opportunity to give Daryl Henderson run. He was forced into that role for a small time and as soon as they could take him out, they did. Now a second round pick on Cam Acres who they took over. JK Dobbins was still available. You know, who had more hype and more production coming in. Plus you have the fact that Cam Acres in college was able to be successful with a terrible offensive line. And that's the situation he's going to find himself in in the NFL with these Rams and their decrepit offensive line.

[Andy Holloway]

Where was. Was Henderson a third round pick last year?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yes. They traded up into the third for Henderson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's going to be interesting.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not going to bury the guys who were. Who are already on the depth chart of Brown and Anderson, but. But I'm very torn what to do with Cam Acres because the draft capital is there. But I think they may have learned a lesson with what happened to Todd Gurley. So I, I'm still drafting Acres very.

[Andy Holloway]

High from a workload perspective in terms of not wanting one guy to do it.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. And finding out what happens to your team when you're. When everything is based off of one player. So I'm still taking him high in rookie drafts, but I'm concerned that he'll be part of a three running back timeshare.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think he'll be the lead dog of a timeshare this year for a team that has the most vacated rush attempts in the league. So he finds himself in a good situation.

[Andy Holloway]

I just love Cam Akers. I love the players. I think he's a hyper, talented player.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. And he could catch the ball. He could do everything they want. And Van Jefferson needs to be thrown out there as well because he's a.

[Andy Holloway]

Guy that, I mean, third round pick.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Drafted over second round pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry, second round pick.

[Jason Moore]

You know, Denzel Mims and you know, they took the guys they wanted, not who they're supposed to have taken with those picks. And that usually means that a team is, you know, very, very into that player. And you've got a team here that has already supported three wide receivers before. Brandon Cook's now leaving. So I've seen him falling late in the third round of some rookie drafts and I just think he's got good value. You know, it was kind of like Deontay Johnson last year wasn't a pre hyped guy and the Steelers surprised people taking him where they did and turns out he was good.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I don't know what to do with Van Jefferson in rookie drafts because I buy into him because the Rams bought into him and that seems to be the only reason why.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, second round pick that's great Capital lost Brandon Cooks. They add another wide receiver. Josh Reynolds has been involved in the past. Both tight ends have been involved in the past. It's hard to find immediate value there, but the draft capital says you got to look at him in rookie drafts. Arizona, the Cardinals, they did not go CD Lam with the 8th pick because Isaiah Simmons was still on the board. So they picked up a tackle in the third round, Josh Jones, that had been literally even up to a week before the draft. Graded as a first round tackle. Tried to get some help for Kyler. Bad offensive line last year. Outside of that skill position wise, they only took, I mean, they took, you know, Benjamin in the seventh round. It's irrelevant for fantasy purposes. Kenya makes the guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there's no winners or losers from the draft unless you're including DeAndre Hopkins as that second round pick, in which case Kyler Murray is.

[Mike Wright]

Kyler is a big winner.

[Jason Moore]

Outside of that, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a good second round pick. That's all I'm going to say.

[Jason Moore]

You know, they, they tried to stock up on defense, which they needed. So not, not much to cover here for fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, more to cover here. The Philadelphia Eagles sliding over to the NFC East. We have Jalen Rager going in the first round pick 21 overall. A new weapon for Carson Wentz. Reactions to the fit Jason, I know we've kind of talked about this. I guess it was on the draft reaction live stream. But you mentioned before the draft you're a big fan of Jalen Rager. Do you believe in the redraft value of him walking right into this wide receiver core?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think he can walk in and have a good rookie season. Usually rookie wide receivers, they're going to be more of the back half of the year. So it's not necessarily a guy that you want to draft but can still have success in redraft leagues. I'm a huge Jalen Rager believer. He was my fourth wide receiver on my board after the three first guys that went off in the NFL draft. And, you know, I comped him. His upside comp to me is like a Steve Smith. So coming into a position with Carson Wentz I think is wonderful. You have to have a big loser. A huge loser here is desean Jackson because, you know, just feels like it.

[Andy Holloway]

Had more to it than just our show title.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you know, they went out and they got speed. I mean, they got, you know, they, they, they traded for Marquis Goodwin, they drafted Quez Watkins and Jalen Rager. These are all speedsters and so the aging, older, injured desean Jackson, he's not the Eagles plan, I don't think for 2020.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, what are you doing? What do you, what are you doing with Mr. Miles Sanders? They had so many draft picks. They did not go running back. What happened to your narrative of workhorse back in Philadelphia when they didn't draft?

[Mike Wright]

Well, Boston Scott will still be there and still be a thorn in your butt cheeks every once in a while, but it's hard to not get excited that Miles Sanders can be what he was over the second half of the year. And what he was was a. He finished in the top 24 of those seven weeks. Was top seven like Miles Sanders turned into a fantasy monster at the end of the year. It ended with a, with a sputtering cloud that week 17 when Boston Scott had a monster week. But the confidence in Miles Sanders of having the three person, the normal Eagles three person running back timeshare where it's impossible to buy in. Now it's just two with Miles Sanders being the primary guy. So you got to be very interested in Miles Sanders.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, he is the biggest winner for the Eagles.

[Mike Wright]

He feels like your biggest winner of the draft.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he very well might be the biggest winner in fantasy of the draft. His rookie season was comparable to Christian McCaffrey's rookie season. I'm not saying he's going to take that leap, but I will say this.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, usually undrafted, my dynasty team would like him to make that leap. Everybody likes to formally request it.

[Jason Moore]

But one thing I want to point out, for rookie drafts for your dynasty leagues and also for this conversation on Miles Sanders, I don't usually give two craps about, you know, undrafted free agents, but Michael Warren, he is a running back that, that a lot of Eagles people, I was live with Eagles people during those last days in the draft. They were expecting him to be drafted in the, the fifth round, the sixth round. Like I'm surprised they're not taking him. And as the second that draft is over, he was signed as an undrafted free agent with the Eagles. He was a guy that they liked and they did bring him in. So he's a big, you know, 226 pound touchdown machine in college. So they did address it, but obviously not with draft capital. So I'm just throwing that out there for you want to, you want to try to sign a Philip Lindsay in on waivers even after your rookie draft goes. Michael Warren's a name you should.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We're going to transition from maybe the biggest Winner Miles Sanders to maybe the biggest loser. And that means we're flying over to the Dallas Cowboys and we're going to talk about winners and losers from that draft. They drafted CD Lamb, our favorite wide receiver, first round pick out of Oklahoma. And Michael Gallup may be the biggest loser of this NFL draft situation because Gallup was clearly an ascending talent. The 113 target number last year was great, especially, you know, Cooper was a little bit banged up, but you saw Gallup really take the next step. It's going to be very difficult for fantasy owners to value Michael Gallup. When Amari Cooper was handed the bag of money, he's there at least a couple more years under that contract and then, you know, they invest a first round pick on a player that we know is very talented in CD Lamb. So weapon wise, is Gallup the fourth option, the third option on this offense? And does that dissuade you from where you had him before this, this took place?

[Jason Moore]

He's definitely a big loser from being able to step into a dominant 1A 1B role, which I think a lot of people were hoping he did this year. Now the pie is split, but we should know because originally I saw CD Lamb as a big loser as well. Coming into the, you know, that draft pick where you've already got two great options, but the Dallas Cowboys have the third most vacated targets. You know, having, having Whitney, having Cobb and Whitten. Yeah, there are targets to go around. And you have McCarthy here, who had a history of having those three wide receiver sets. Four wide receiver sets. So it might not be the worst landing spot for CD Lamb, but it's certainly not great for Gallup's upside and it's wonderful for Dak. Dak is one of the biggest winners in the draft.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So excited for Dak this year.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not out on Michael Gallup, like, especially if you're saying, is he the fourth option this year? I'm not going to put CD Lamb over Michael Gallup in his rookie year.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, I wouldn't do that either. But CD Lamb behind Gallup versus Randall Cobb behind Gallup is a different story. Sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's a different picture. But you know, when, when a guy puts up 1100 yards in 14 games and is going in, this is the third year, if my remembering that right.

[Andy Holloway]

It is third year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Like I'm, I'm still in on the, on the talent of Michael Gallup. Let's, let's let CD Lamb prove that he is enough of a force to take that Many targets away.

[Andy Holloway]

But let me ask you a simple question, because it will define looking at Michael Gallup this year differently. Are you projecting better numbers than last year for Michael Gallup or worse numbers this year for Michael Gallup? Because you just read him out, right? He had 113 targets.

[Mike Wright]

He was 1106 last year.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it a better or worse fantasy season for him? Man, I'm gonna take the under.

[Jason Moore]

It's probably a good worse season. You know what I mean? Like, he'll have it.

[Mike Wright]

He could have. I don't know what you mean.

[Jason Moore]

If he has a thousand yards and five touchdowns. Exactly. That's still taking the under on what he did his sophomore year.

[Mike Wright]

That's only 14 games.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Amari missed how many?

[Jason Moore]

Well, he was on the field mentally, not just physically, but not there for several. He was a decoy for a handful of those games.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, you didn't make a selection.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I thought we were just moving. Look, man, I'll buy. I'll take the over.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so you don't agree with the biggest loser of the draft situation there, then?

[Mike Wright]

I do not know.

[Andy Holloway]

The New York Giants, they end up going Andrew Thomas with the fourth overall pick. Get Daniel Jones some protection. And I think that makes Daniel Jones a winner whenever he can stay upright and maybe be less turnover prone. They also took a tackle again, third round. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And a great lineman in the first five rounds. The winners are Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley.

[Jason Moore]

Not. Not just stopping there. I mean, the winners is this wide receiver core you talk about. Sterling Shepard, Golden Tate, and why am I blanking on Darius Slay? There we go, Slayton. Those are. Those are huge winners to me in this draft. They had a ton of opportunity in a deep wide receiver draft to say, maybe we want to replace someone. Maybe our core is not good enough. And they are fine with this set of wide receivers. Slayton, to me, was a clear winner.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The Washington Redskins, Antonio Gibson, third round wide receiver out of Memphis, also running back. Yeah, yeah. They went Antonio Gandhi golden in the fourth round as well, out of Liberty. Winners and losers on this team. I mean, McLaurin is a winner to me. Because there was some fear that the Redskins, after the Mari Cooper rumors, might invest a high draft capital selection on somebody that could influences influence McLaurin's role as the one on the outside. Gibson's not going to do that well.

[Mike Wright]

Gibson. Gibson is going to be like an Austin Eckler. I think that. I know they were right there. It says wide receiver, but he at least tweeted out a picture of him and he was wearing a 24. He, I think, is going to be used more as a running back. Like if you go watch Ron Rivera talk about him, the first player out of his mouth when he's talking about Antonio Gibson is comping him to Christian McCaffrey and that skill set. So he's going to be used more as a running pointer.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no Chris Thompson there anymore. And that's what I mean. They didn't draft a wide receiver with their second pick that will threaten McLaurin as a wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

They drafted a running back. Really?

[Jason Moore]

When I was scouting my running backs and I asked everybody, you know, who's the next. You know, after I was done with the first couple tiers of running back, I was asking people, who's the next running back I need to look at? And everyone was saying Antonio Gibson. And then I went, he's not a running back, but he's not a wide receiver. So I completely agree with you that Terry McLaurin is a very big winner here.

[Andy Holloway]

And I would say, you know, if you look at Gibson and them using him in the offense, they also signed, what, Peyton Barber this off season. They still have Adrian Peterson, they still have Bryce Love, and they still have Darius Geiss at running back.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a five pack in Washington.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. There are recent rumors that they think AP might get the cut in this off season.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't they just resign him?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they did, but they won't hit. It won't hit opening day and all of those guys will still be on the roster.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, they just signed Peyton Barber. So they could cut. They could cut AP and go with.

[Mike Wright]

They could cut AP and Barber and move forward with the other guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, The Green Bay packers, they drafted some football players.

[Jason Moore]

Loser. Yeah. You want to know why Mike says that Michael Gallup wasn't the biggest loser in the draft?

[Andy Holloway]

Because Aaron Rodgers the biggest loser.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Aaron Rodgers is the biggest loser. He has had no help. Look, I'm like soured on Aaron Rodgers over the last couple of years. I'm sick of his sourpuss face and his whiny.

[Andy Holloway]

He soured on his sour face.

[Jason Moore]

I have. He's made me pucker and I.

[Mike Wright]

How do you know the man doesn't just love warheads?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, maybe he's out there playing and he loves warheads, but I can't stand him. But I still have empathy and I feel bad for him because for the last four or five years, since Randall Cobb had that nice you know, year two, they have got him no talent. And here they had all the chance in the world in the deepest wide receiver draft to go get him some help. And they're like, nah, we're getting your replacement. We're going to wait to get the help until after you're out of here.

[Mike Wright]

And then we'll get the guy to replace Aaron Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And you know, this is a new regime in Green Bay. This was not the regime that drafted Aaron Jones. This is not, you know, they inherited what McCarthy had. And first, for whatever reason, despite being 13 and 3, they are making moves that look more two, three years down the line than they did. You know where they are right now? Three six round picks, a fifth round pick, no weapons for Aaron Rodgers. A draft class that, you know. Al Borland, are you on the line right now? Can we page Al Borland?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Biggest packers fan I know. How did you feel about what took place on draft day?

[Jason Moore]

I'm still not over it, man.

[Mike Wright]

It was bad. Look, all right, hey, let's, let's get some positive vibes here. Winner, Alan Lazard. Let's go.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true, though. I mean that he played enough last year for me to say he's worthy of a glance. It more often than not in the last five years those glances have not paid off for the speculative non Devonte Adams wide receiver in Green Bay and was already talented enough to where I would be feeling better about him than I would, you know, anybody else outside.

[Mike Wright]

We had, we had all the Aaron Rodgers hype last year of him saying that he wanted Alan Lazard on the field. The gm, when he was talking about why they didn't draft a wide receiver and in his defense is he started talking about the other players and the first guy he mentioned was Alan Lazard. Like Alan Lazard is the two for this team.

[Andy Holloway]

Did they mention anybody else?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he ran through the rest of.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, you know, he was mentioned.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Devin S. Scrumptious.

[Andy Holloway]

It's so good that he's back. I think Kumaro got mentioned too. Oh, boy.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

But my point was simply Alan Lazard was the first man up. So he was top of mind.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, top of mind. I would, I don't inherently give him the number two role. I mean, I don't really at this point I've stopped caring about the number two role.

[Mike Wright]

Whether that's fun, you don't have to care about it. I'm just saying, like the last three.

[Andy Holloway]

Years, Jason, this might be what you're referencing in 2017. The wide receiver, too, for Aaron Rodgers was the wide receiver 39 in fantasy. Then it was the wide receiver 65 in 2018 with MBS. And then last year, Alan Lazard ended up in that role by defect, you know, by the end. Wide receiver 68. They don't pass the ball a ton. They can win on the ground when they want to. It is probably. I'm going to lean on Jason's side there, where you can always throw another Aaron Rodgers weapon into a game because you might get that Raiders game from Week 5 or whatever it was. You might get Rogers throwing five or six touchdowns. But it's not something you can bank on anymore, unfortunately.

[Mike Wright]

And you just correct.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to move forward.

[Jason Moore]

Jason Burger. Sternberger could be a winner.

[Mike Wright]

Just throwing the name maybe, didn't they. I mean, they moved up for like a blocking tight end or not moved up, but they grabbed one in the third round.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying they didn't get any weird receiving help. And Sternberger is a good receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

And they lost Jimmy Graham.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they lost him.

[Andy Holloway]

You just said they lost Jimmy Graham. That's where they're receiving well.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, the targets are going to. Going to go to Sternberg and better than Jimmy Grant.

[Andy Holloway]

You know who had a few picks? The Minnesota Vikings. Just a few hundred.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks, Stefan Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

Justin Jefferson, their first pick overall, hoping not to repeat the mistakes of treadwell past the 22nd pick, Justin Jefferson out of LSU. We saw him in the national title game go absolutely wild. I think it's a great fit. Obviously, with Diggs leaving town, Jefferson has the opportunity to come in right away and make a rookie impact. You know, you can pick two or three receivers that you think have odds on favorite opportunities to put up fantasy numbers in year one. Jefferson's one for me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

His situation is great. He is a winner. And then you can certainly say that Kirk Cousins is a winner, grabbing, you know, a high quality wide receiver in the first round to replace Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

You like Jefferson, right, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I like Justin Jefferson a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm laughing because I'm scrolling down to the Bears here and I'm looking at this Bears draft and I am looking at the winners and losers box. And I am seeing Clancy.

[Mike Wright]

Clancy Barone.

[Andy Holloway]

You're the big winner. Who's Clancy Barone?

[Mike Wright]

Who is that?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Michael, I'm glad you asked. Clancy Barone is the most lucrative tight ends coach in the National Football League. The Bears have drafted another tight end. They had, what, a very limited amount of picks, seven picks in this draft, not very limited, but 2 seconds, 3 fifths, 2 sevenths. They use their first overall pick on my favorite tight end of the tight end class, Cole Comet out of Notre Dame. But I believe that means they have 10 tight ends on that roster.

[Mike Wright]

Mike, we got Cole Comet, Jimmy Graham Harris, Ben Bronaker, Adam Shaheen is still there. Oh, J.P. holtz, Jesse Jesper, Horstead and then like there's still a few more that I not going to name.

[Andy Holloway]

Does Clancy need an assistant is what I want to know? Does he need a little bit of help? Do we need two tight end coaches in Chicago?

[Mike Wright]

Are they doing. What are they doing?

[Andy Holloway]

That's a stay true to their board type of move.

[Jason Moore]

To me that they realize that they need help at tight end and they are taking what is referred to as the shotgun approach. Well, if we were to go out and get 10 tight ends, two of them got to be good, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean between the fact that rookie tight ends don't generally contribute for fantasy and the fact they have that Colcomez has to beat out nine others, I wouldn't be banking on a lot of. I mean David Montgomery is a winner.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

David Montgomery is going to be my most annoying accidental recommendation of the year because I don't want to recommend him because of how difficult it was the definition of tough sledding last year for David Montgomery. But he's the guy and he was a high draft capital pick. They don't have Jordan Howard, they don't have a comp. A competitive other option to David Montgomery. He can catch the football and Nick Foles might be leading this offense.

[Mike Wright]

So there's not very. There will not be many running backs in the who, what, fifth, sixth round that are going to carry the ball 200 plus times and he's one of them. It's a jagged little pill and you're just going to choke it down, get some sugar and help the medicine go down because he's going to get touches, man.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he'll. He'll almost certainly outperform where the expectation is he's going to be drafted this.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my gosh. Are we going to. Are we going to consider him as a sleeper in the udk?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know that he would be sleeper.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just watching your faces right now. I want to see.

[Jason Moore]

I don't like it. I don't want it. But there's. There's always players.

[Andy Holloway]

Could I get you in the value train? Maybe this is my coping mechanism for losing mixing. Because in that league because he's on your team. I ended up with Montgomery and I'm now painting the. I did choose David Montgomery over Devin Singletary. For those out there who you know, I made that decision on volume. I made that decision on I just.

[Mike Wright]

Started out Devin Singletary and I was surprised at how high the volume is that I'm projecting for him.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks for telling me that ahead of time, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

No, I've been holding on to that info for a week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh man, that makes sense now. I did go Montgomery over Singletary because I felt like I would. Like you said, 200 plus carries, very talented pass catcher. If you saw the flashes that he had last year, there were few and far between a lot of them in the passing game. So I went that direction. The Detroit Lions Are we retiring this drop? Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we don't need to carry on anymore with that. That's it's over. I don't know. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, is he a my guy for you?

[Jason Moore]

He is probably going to be a my guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Carry on out of town.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, absolutely. I mean I could see DeAndre Swift.

[Andy Holloway]

Running back to the Lions.

[Jason Moore]

I could see carry on. I mean, of course you're going to know this is coming from me, but I still think he could have a career for a different team in the future. He's so young. I mean it was like it reminds me of when the Cardinals back in the day used to draft great running backs and they sucked and then they would leave and go sign somewhere else, you know, and they'd be great. Whether it's Garrison Hurst or.

[Andy Holloway]

That hasn't exactly happened with Detroit though. You've got Amir Abdullah in your.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, certainly, certainly. But I mean DeAndre Swift, a lot of people's number one. Your Andy number one running back gets selected here with great draft capital. He's the third pick in the second round early.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think he's a winner, though. He's not a winner for me.

[Mike Wright]

No. The chatter is Talking about how DeAndre Swift is a good compliment to carry on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they're both going to get coaching.

[Mike Wright]

Staff is talking about. Let me Sorry to sidetrack you, but if you guys recall, I traded Odell Beckham or for Odell Beckham and Dynasty right before the NFL draft and the rookie draft. So now there are names in our draft to associate to that trade. So let me give you the names and see now how we feel about that. I traded the 105 and the 201 for Beckham in our draft. That turned into DeAndre Swift and then I probably would have been looking at Mims or Pittman and that's Denzel Mims, wide receiver for the Jets, Michael Pittman, wide receiver for the Colts. So let's say Swift and Pittman for Odell Beckham. How do we feel about it now?

[Jason Moore]

I think it's a completely fair trade and I would, I would go with Odell Beckham. You know, I think the landy you.

[Mike Wright]

Were more on the pick side. So now that you're seeing the names and locations, are you still the going with the rookies?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not shooting for middle of the road with this answer but the truth is it's just team need. I mean if you were in that situation where you didn't have a lot of depth, you are building for the future. Swift and Mims, I'd rather have those two guys if I'm looking two or three years down the road. But Beckham is the better player right now for your fantasy team. And Jason, if I had to put money down on Swift or Carry on having a better fantasy season, I wouldn't know where to put it, but I'd probably put it on Carry On. That doesn't equate to a good fantasy season, don't get me wrong. But better, more fantasy points. I'd probably put it on Kerryon Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's weird and great to hear. I mean I would put, I would put it on Swift. I think that he's going to come in and supplant Carry on, but I. It's not going to be a one man show there and this is a team that hasn't been able to find success since Barry Sanders at running the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think that he's more talented than Carry On?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, I think, I think Swift is more talented than Carry on coming in.

[Mike Wright]

People are going to draft Swift like he has the job already.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That Swift will be up in the fourth round at least.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Carry on is a gigantic, gigantic, you know, one of the biggest losers in the from the NFL draft this year because he. They could have come away like some of the other teams like Miles Sanders where it's like you didn't draft a running back and you're giving him the job one more time. He's not going to get another chance to be the workhorse.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The New Orleans Saints NFC south only had four picks in this draft. There's not a whole lot to say. There's not a big winner or loser out of this draft. Right. I mean four picks, first rounder Was a center, which I think surprised some people and then no one of great notes. So probably move on the Trout man.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, no, it's, it's irrelevant right now.

[Mike Wright]

He's, he's, he's interesting in your dynasty drafts, but not for this year.

[Andy Holloway]

And you really didn't have a major impact with the Atlanta Falcons draft board either. You could say Todd Gurley was a winner, signed his deal with Atlanta and they did not invest in another running back with their seven picks. But outside of Gurley, any big thoughts here with Atlanta?

[Jason Moore]

You could, you could say the same thing for Calvin Ridley. You have an immense amount of lost targets here. I think they lead the league in vacated targets with Hooper leaving, with Sanu leaving mid season. And so yeah, those two guys, Ridley and Gurley I think are going to have a lot of opportunity this year.

[Andy Holloway]

And then two more teams to get through here. Carolina, we'll go to them first. Carolina did not invest in skill position players either. They were some. They were a team we thought might go Isaiah Simmons in the first round. They didn't. They went a defensive tackle, Derek Brown. You kind of know what you got on offense with Carolina in the sense that you know their, their actual depth chart. You don't yet know how that's going to be carried out on the field with Bridgewater and Robbie Anderson joining DJ Moore and the ever rumored to be traded Curtis Samuel. Every moment of every day seems like. But here we are with that depth chart and no real impact based on the draft.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, you have a clear idea of what the Panthers needed help with and it was their defense. Every single pick was a defensive pick in this year's draft. There were so many rumors about all the Panthers are. They're bringing in all these running backs. That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

It didn't happen.

[Jason Moore]

They paid Christian McCaffrey a ton of money and they didn't draft a single offensive player. And they said, yeah, let's, let's go cmc.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a good point. I thought that they might invest based on the rumors we heard. 4th, 5th, 6th round running back just for insurance. And they did not. They did sign an undrafted running back, I think. And then Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers. Good discussions to be had here. They went with Keyshawn Vaughn in the third round. I know that we have a couple of Keyshawn Vaughn fans in the.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Their own respective buildings. Tom Brady's a winner. Tristan Wurfs in the first round. Get him some protection. Keyshawn Vaughn in the third makes Ronald Jones A loser in this draft.

[Mike Wright]

Ish. So loser.

[Andy Holloway]

Loser. Ish. I still think he's the starting running back for this team, but as we've seen from Bruce Arians on multiple franchises including last year with Barber and Ronald Jones, he is a temperamental running back depth chart adjuster. That's what I'm, that's what I'm titling.

[Jason Moore]

Him when he's talking about. You know, all these college guys, they, you know, they all have good production on the ground. But can they catch? But can they catch? That's what he cares about. That's what they were looking for. My, my comp for Keyshawn Vaughn was carry on Johnson. He reminded me a lot of them coming out. I was a big fan of the.

[Andy Holloway]

Keyshawn would like you to select a new comp.

[Jason Moore]

Look, I still believe in the talent of Kerryon Johnson. He's looked good when given the opportunity, hasn't been able to stay on the field. But the point here is this is a guy that I thought was a much better talent than the opportunity he was going to receive because he was a late transfer from Vanderbilt. And so, you know, he ended up in a spot where there's a path to. I mean, I'm not afraid of Ronald Jones especially when they need Tom Brady to have someone to catch the ball. And that's always been a weakness of Ronald Jones and Keyshawn Vaughn, you know, over his career showed that he, he can, he can catch the ball.

[Mike Wright]

One of the things, perfect, I'll jump ahead. It's it, it's a perfect match. The landing space or landing spot for Vaughn is incredible. I said loser ish to Ronald Jones because of Bruce Arians not wanting to put his rookies out there right away. So we need. It will be very tough to kind of pump the brakes on your hopes and expectations for Vaughn early on in the season. Like long term, I like Keyshawn Vaughn a lot. Like he's a first round rookie pick to me. What's. It's sort of funny. Jason had him comp to carry on Johnson. I had messaged Jason and I said like I like Keyshawn Vaughn the way I liked Alexander Madison last year where it feels like he's just a super solid, well rounded player but I don't know where he'll be drafted. Ends up getting drafted in the exact same round as Madison. So long term I like Vaughn. Second half of the season it could happen for Vaughn. I mean there is the chance that it happens earlier than later where Vaughn turns into a James White outlet for Tom Brady. But it could be sketchy to start the season. That's how I'm projecting it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, if you had to bet on it, you know, Ronald Jones is going to get first and second down work to start this season. And last year when you were dealing with Ronald Jones, Peyton Barber decisions, you still had to deal with Dare Agumba, Walley coming out for every freaking third down for that offense.

[Mike Wright]

That could be Vaughn.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, the point in Vaughn's favor is certainly the fact that, look, Arians didn't. Didn't pick Ronald Jones. He didn't pick Peyton Barber to be his running back. So this is his first investment in a player. You compound that with the rookie and you know, look, you come in on third down, you're gonna have to pass protect for Tom Brady. If a rookie comes in and Tom Brady gets popped, you might not see Keyshawn Vaughn for three weeks. So that's going to be the thing to wade through. But dynasty, leagues, I know you guys believe in the talent. He's an Aryans guy. So there's a lot of upside there for Keyshawn Vaughn. You just might.

[Mike Wright]

There was a running back that Arians drafted in the third round a couple of years ago.

[Andy Holloway]

You're talking about David Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

I am talking about David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

So Keisha Vaughn will be returning kicks for his rookie years. What you're saying, I don't know if.

[Mike Wright]

He'S fast enough for that.

[Andy Holloway]

Because that's what. David Johnson didn't get to do a whole lot more than that in year one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but that was behind. That was behind a great running back versus Ronald.

[Andy Holloway]

That was behind Chris Johnson the retread.

[Mike Wright]

That was Andre Ellington.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Johnson was an excellent running back.

[Mike Wright]

Are you talking about like a Titans Chris Johnson?

[Jason Moore]

I am. Well, Arizona great At Arizona Cardinals. Chris Johnson versus Ronald. I will take Arizona Cardinals Johnson 100 out of 100 times.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. We'll agree to disagree with the upward movement of Keyshawn Vaughn to start the year, Jason, but I think that's it. You guys have anything else you want to close out with?

[Jason Moore]

I just want to make sure that everybody knows what time it's going to be when we. When we come back for our next episode.

[Mike Wright]

And oh, my gosh, the month of April is rapidly closing.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't intentionally forget that, Jason. I'm glad you. I'm glad you remembered it, though. It's no longer April here.

[Jason Moore]

For the people, it's gonna be May.

[Andy Holloway]

You got two of them. So that is it. Foot Clan thank you for stopping by, tuning in, supporting the show. Hope you enjoyed it. And next week we're gonna have a pretty exciting dynasty show.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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