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Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - NFL Draft Recap: NFC Winners & Losers

Episode Date: April 30, 2026
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

The Fantasy Footballers trio is back to recap the NFC side of the 2026 NFL Draft, dissecting which teams and players came out as fantasy winners and losers. The conversation dives deep into draft surprises, player landing spots, how depth charts and fantasy value are affected, and closes with thoughts on some notable team strategies. With the trademark blend of sharp analysis and laid-back fun, the hosts break down each NFC division, talk rookie draft strategy, and hand out their "winner/loser" verdicts for players across the board.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

General NFL & Fantasy News

• Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers (05:40)

  • Steelers placed the rare right of first refusal tender on Rodgers.
  • Mike feels Rodgers will "probably" play ("my odds are 95" - 06:16), but Jason is more skeptical ("I'm like 55, 45.").
  • Fantasy advice: Steelers future would be better off with a new QB, as Rodgers doesn't make long-term sense.

• Bo Nix Injury Update (07:50)

  • Underwent anticipated ankle cleanup procedure; nothing surprising for fantasy managers.

• Jonathan Brooks (RB, Carolina) (09:07)

  • Cleared for offseason activities after torn ACL.
  • Hosts debate 2024 fantasy projection and dynasty draft value, with Andy willing to trade a second-round rookie pick for him ("I'd be willing, like, I'll do a second rounder for Jonathan Brooks" - 12:10).

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Division-by-Division Draft Recap

NFC West

Arizona Cardinals

• Jeremiah Love (RB, Pick 3 overall):

  • Remains top pick in rookie drafts; Tyler Allgeier biggest fantasy loser.
  • "Algier is the biggest loser. It sucks. I feel bad for that guy because I think he really deserved his chance." - Andy (14:08)
  • Love should see "200+ opportunities" as a rookie (15:11).

• Carson Beck (QB, 3rd round):

  • Pick widely panned; team expected to have another top draft pick in 2027.
  • Unlikely to play over Jacoby Brissett or Gardner Minshew in 2026.

San Francisco 49ers

• Dazon Stribling (WR, 2nd round) & Kalen Black (RB, 3rd round):
  • Stribling's high draft capital raises eyebrows but skepticism remains.
  • Jason: "When the 49ers have reached for players they don't work out on the field..." (22:28)
  • Shanahan's history with RB picks: "They can draft Trey Sermon in the third...and if Elijah Mitchell has two better practices, that's their loyalty" - Jason (26:15).

Los Angeles Rams

• Ty Simpson (QB, Pick 13 overall):
  • Surprise pick, but the team plans for post-Stafford era.
  • "If Ty Simpson gets to sit for two years behind Matthew Stafford and get trained by Sean McVay, I'll bet, I'll bet he ends up being a pretty good quarterback." - Mike (32:24)
• Max Claire (TE, 2nd round):
  • Buried in a loaded TE depth chart, so not an immediate contributor.
  • "Avoid all tight ends there." - Andy (36:38)

Seattle Seahawks

• Jadarian Price (RB, 1st round):
  • Clear path to early touches due to Zach Charbonnet's injury.
  • "Charbonnet is not going to be ready week one... it's a great pick. He is going to get the rock a lot." - Mike (38:17)
  • Locked in at 1.05 in rookie drafts (39:48).

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NFC East

New York Giants

• Malachi Fields (WR, 3rd round):
  • Lands in a great spot as a physical complement to Malik Nabers.
  • "I will be interested in a Giants wide receiver." - Andy (41:00)
  • Nabers remains a winner—no new threats to targets, boosting his rookie year outlook.

Washington Commanders

• Antonio Williams (WR, 3rd round):
  • Has a shot at WR2 duties, significant dynasty stock boost ("he is my number 12 ranked rookie. So he's a... back of the first round for me." - Mike 44:54).
• Kaytron "Fat Man" Allen (RB, 6th round):
  • Backfield remains open behind Rashad White; Allen gets a cult-hero nickname.
  • "His mama calls him Fat Man." - Jason (45:35)

Dallas Cowboys

• No major offensive picks.
• Main fantasy impact is positive for existing WRs (Pickens signed franchise tag) and a defense that might limit shootouts.

Philadelphia Eagles

• Makai Lemon (WR, 1st round), Eli Stowers (TE, 2nd round):
  • Immediate signals that A.J. Brown's time is up.
  • "We see you are working on your offense post-A.J. Brown." - Mike (49:54)
  • Short-term: drop in offensive firepower, but strong long-term core for Jalen Hurts.

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NFC North

Detroit Lions

• Little fantasy impact; WR and RB rooms unchanged, Pacheco a winner by default.

Minnesota Vikings

• Did not add significant RB as expected; Aaron Jones, Jordan Mason benefit by lack of competition.

Green Bay Packers

• Defensive focus in draft means Matthew Golden, Christian Watson, Marshawn Lloyd are uninterrupted winners.
• "Good endorsement of Matthew golden and Christian Watson..." - Jason (55:59)

Chicago Bears

• No significant offensive additions.
• D’Andre Swift and Manangai unchanged as backfield leaders.

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NFC South

New Orleans Saints

• Jordan Tyson (WR, 1st round):
  • Instantly slots as WR2 behind Olave, great landing spot.
  • "He remains my number one." - Andy (57:17), but Jason slightly prefers Carnell Tate.
• Oscar Delp (TE, 3rd round):
  • Not expected to threaten for fantasy relevance immediately.

Atlanta Falcons

• Zachariah Branch (WR, 3rd round):
  • Elite athleticism but worrying screen-heavy college usage; viewed as an upside scratch-off ticket.
  • "I'm guessing he will not be a good fantasy player but if he hits... you could win big." - Mike (60:23)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

• Ted Hurst (WR, 3rd round):
  • Deep but unsettled WR room gives him a chance to emerge as a big slot/field-stretcher, especially as Godwin ages.
  • "They were Hursty." - Jason pun (63:04)

Carolina Panthers

• Chris Brazil II (WR, 3rd round):
  • Opportunity to emerge on a thin depth chart.
  • Brooks, Chuba Hubbard, Dillon stay atop the RB depth chart as Panthers avoid rookie RB additions.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "Algier is the biggest loser. It sucks. I feel bad for that guy because I think he really deserved his chance."
  — Andy Holloway on the Cardinals' RB room (14:08)

• "When the 49ers have reached for players, they don't work out on the field and so they reach for a player that nobody has a consensus belief in..."
  — Jason Moore on San Francisco's draft strategy (22:28)

• "[Ty Simpson] would not become a good NFL quarterback in Arizona. If Ty Simpson gets to sit for two years behind Matthew Stafford and get trained by Sean McVay, I'll bet he ends up being a pretty good quarterback." — Mike Wright, on the Rams strategy with their surprise QB pick (32:24)

• "Charbonnet is not going to be ready week one... it's a great pick. [Jadarian Price] is going to get the rock a lot"
  — Mike Wright on the Seahawks' new RB (38:17)

• "If Ty Simpson gets to sit for two years behind Matthew Stafford... I'll bet, I'll bet he ends up being a pretty good quarterback."
  — Mike Wright (32:24)

• "We see you are working on your offense post-A.J. Brown."
  — Mike Wright on the Eagles draft approach (49:54)

• "His mama calls him Fat Man."
  — Jason Moore on K. Allen's nickname (45:35)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [06:00] – Steelers and Aaron Rodgers tender drama
• [09:07] – Panthers' Jonathan Brooks health update & rookie pick value
• [12:45] – NFC West begins: Cardinals, Love/Beck
• [21:05] – 49ers reach on Stribling, RB lottery continues
• [29:33] – Rams' Ty Simpson pick explained and analyzed
• [37:00] – Seahawks' Jadarian Price impact & rookie value
• [40:08] – Giants: Neighbors and Malachi Fields landing spot
• [43:06] – Washington: Antonio Williams and "Fat Man" Allen, roles explained
• [47:38] – Cowboys/Eagles: draft strategies & WR/TE winners/losers
• [53:49] – NFC North rapid-fire: Lions, Vikings, Packers, Bears
• [57:17] – Saints: Tyson and Delp fantasy impact
• [59:20] – Falcons: Zachariah Branch as a wildcard
• [62:06] – Buccaneers: Ted Hurst and deep WR competition
• [63:55] – Panthers: Chris Brazil II & rundown of fantasy context

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Major Fantasy Winners

• Jeremiah Love (RB, Cardinals): Locked-in rookie volume, Allgeier and Conner lose out.
• Jadarian Price (RB, Seahawks): Lands in perfect "bellcow" setup, especially with Charbonnet injured.
• Malik Nabers (WR, Giants): Target share boost.
• Matthew Golden & Christian Watson (Packers), D’Andre Swift (Bears), Marshawn Lloyd (Packers): Teams did little to threaten usage.

Major Fantasy Losers

• Tyler Allgeier (RB, Cardinals): Falls to a backup/goal-line role with Love's arrival.
• Charbonnet (RB, Seahawks): Major injury and rookie competition.
• Philadelphia pass catchers (outside Makai Lemon): Year 1 growing pains expected.
• San Francisco Day 2 skill position picks: History not on their side.

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Tone and Style

True to Fantasy Footballers' hallmark:
– Analytical, bold opinions intermixed with jokes ("His mama calls him Fat Man" - 45:35)
– Frequent friendly jabs, dynasty value talk, and relatable anecdotes (e.g. golf, fantasy rookie draft war stories).

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Final Take

This episode is a dense, high-energy primer on the state of the NFC after the draft—hit play for more context on every rookie that matters and how your fantasy board should shift.
If you don’t have time to listen, this summary covers all the big fantasy winners and losers by division with insight into dynasty and redraft value for 2026.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in. The fantasy footballers. Back with you, mike wright, jason moore, andy holloway. Thursday, april 30. What? What?

[Mike Wright]

Mike just.

[Andy Holloway]

I just had a realization that you're

[Mike Wright]

a fair weather fan. I know what is. I know what his real.

[Andy Holloway]

I know what.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, baby.

[Mike Wright]

It's gonna be me also.

[Andy Holloway]

What? Go to my camera. What are you talking about?

[Jason Moore]

Mike is wearing a different hat.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you talking about?

[Jason Moore]

Normally wears well, it's just wearing me

[Andy Holloway]

and the champs, you know, last year's champs. Probably this year's champs.

[Jason Moore]

You're a big OKC fan.

[Andy Holloway]

Always have been, guys.

[Jason Moore]

Well, no, I remember you were a big warriors fan during those heyday, actually.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, I know, but.

[Jason Moore]

Big Chiefs fan.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yankees.

[Jason Moore]

You like the Astros a lot during their whole controversy. I know you were a big fan of.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And despised trash cans.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Welcome into the show. Second half of our draft recap.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you going to do, man? Sometimes you got to get to jump on the train.

[Jason Moore]

NFC winners and losers on this show today. But first we need some sort of. Can we get the mic announcement horn of some Sort.

[Andy Holloway]

We need the big horn. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We do have our draft week giveaway winners to announce here on the show. So anybody that picked up the ultimate draft kit over the weekend or has purchased it since we started pre orders in February, they were all entered to win a Jamar Chase signed jersey, b John Robinson jersey, and a listener league spot, which have been picked out. We also threw out some extra swag to some folks out there. Let's start here. The Jamar Chase jersey goes to Who? I just wanted to put. Put the producer on the spot.

[Andy Holloway]

There we go.

[Jason Moore]

There was a chance.

[Mike Wright]

There it is.

[Jason Moore]

Adam Johnson with the Jamar Chase signed jersey.

[Andy Holloway]

Congratulations.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, now, see, I have set us up for, like, multiple. I put in slack. I'll hit you with the drum roll for the listener league. Okay. No, we're committed now. The Bijan jersey goes to. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It's not good.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not good.

[Jason Moore]

William Villa or via however you pronounce it. And then. Hey, guys, have we.

[Andy Holloway]

Have we messaged the listener league spot winner? Not yet. Oh, do we?

[Mike Wright]

So this is.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe they're just learning about it right now.

[Mike Wright]

You. If you haven't heard yet that you're in the league, this might be you right now.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

If your name is. Steven,

[Andy Holloway]

good work, Steven.

[Jason Moore]

Pronounced the last name Jabot.

[Mike Wright]

It's Jabor. It's Jaboy, Steven, Gabao, Gibboo.

[Jason Moore]

I think Mike actually got it right. I think it's Jabot. Okay. I mean, that works. That's if that's your name or something close to it.

[Mike Wright]

We, we look out, Steven, for an

[Jason Moore]

email from Al Borland. We also sent some swag packs out to Cody. Sure. James F. And Bryce L. For some swag packs. Lots of giveaways this week. I had somebody email me this morning and they said I didn't have time to preorder it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, when I had a chance, could I buy it today and still be entered? And I said, no, but, nay, but, because we had already picked the winners because we're honorable men and there's a window. Right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But I said if you get it, we do more giveaways and more fun stuff over the entire summer also, then you have it. Right. That is also one of the perks is having it once you get it. Ultimate draft kit.com for that. Let's move on to the news,

[Mike Wright]

news and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

So much for knowing before the draft, huh? The Steelers place the rare right of first refusal tender on Aaron Rodgers.

[Andy Holloway]

Never even heard of this Tender.

[Jason Moore]

It means that he can accept a 10% raise off of last year's salary, which would pay him about 15 million this year from another team. Right. And then they could match it.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. That is.

[Jason Moore]

What a cool thing that he has forced him to do.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Weird. Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback. Aaron Rodgers is not going to get.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't.

[Mike Wright]

I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you at.

[Jason Moore]

Give me your odds.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, my odds are 95.

[Jason Moore]

I'm like, I'm like 55, 45.

[Mike Wright]

No, I can't imagine Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

Will Howard. This is Aaron Rodgers decision Howard over Allard.

[Mike Wright]

So in my opinion, this is just. Does Aaron Rodgers want to play football or not? And by the time football starts coming around, I think he's going to be like, yeah, I want to play football.

[Jason Moore]

So I talked to some of. I've got friends that are lifelong Steeler fans. They've grown up flans. They're flans like the gelatin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, I got it.

[Jason Moore]

They grew up, you know, yellow and black. Like they want Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback. They think it is a lost season. They would like to see Will Howard or Drew, all our. Or anybody else.

[Mike Wright]

If I was a Steelers fan, 100%, I would not want Aaron Rodgers anywhere near the team. It's not best for your future. It will probably win the most games this season to have Aaron Rodgers there. Not best for your future.

[Jason Moore]

Remember when Hakeem Olajuwon was on the Toronto Raptors, Jason?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

You know what? Yeah, he was really. Hakeem Olajuwon played for the Raptors. This is the dream.

[Andy Holloway]

The Canadian dream.

[Jason Moore]

The Canadian dream. The Canadian dream. Shake up there in the Great White North. It's a fact. But you know what? We're not going to remember Aaron Rodgers. The Steelers.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

The Steeler. We're going to remember the Packer and he had amazing years and we'll be a Hall of Famer. But can we, can we. He's doing. It's weird to be.

[Andy Holloway]

We're done with this.

[Jason Moore]

We've already done the Brett Favre thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It's just funny, the amount.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't wait for Jordan. Love to do this.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. I guess that's inevitable. NFL Network's Ian Rappaport reporting. Rap up reporting, as I like to say that Broncos quarterback Bo Nix underwent a successful and anticipated follow up cleanup procedure on his ankle. Well, he had the injury that forced us into not getting to watch him in the title game. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm laughing at the anticipated part there. Like it was successful. It was anticipated.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah, you got.

[Andy Holloway]

Knew we were going to do this.

[Mike Wright]

We didn't accidentally have surgery like we. We knew we were going to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

He didn't slip on a banana peel and fall on a gurney.

[Mike Wright]

Scalpel's in my ankle.

[Jason Moore]

Quickest surgeries in history, this one. Free agent wide receiver Juwan Jennings visited the Minnesota Vikings on Wednesday. Still a free agent, Jennings has spent at least three off seasons begging to

[Mike Wright]

be worth more and deserving to be worth more.

[Jason Moore]

I think at one point, yes, but I don't feel that way. Like Jennings is a solid receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure, I think he has a lot to offer a team, but you want him to.

[Jason Moore]

You want him to bring it to Minnesota.

[Andy Holloway]

I as the wide receiver 3. He would be very helpful.

[Jason Moore]

Lions exercise Jameer Gibbs, 50 or option for 2027.

[Mike Wright]

Shocking.

[Jason Moore]

That one makes sense. And also Quentin Johnston.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, huge.

[Jason Moore]

What a roller coaster that's been. Look at us.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at us. Whoever thought we would be here together,

[Jason Moore]

we are in the middle of doing our team by team, player by player stat analysis, you know, projecting every single player that goes into the udk. So we are looking closely at these teams. I saw Jason, he tweeted a disparaging remark about the Dolphins after looking at them in the udk.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it was because I had to, I had to stat their wide receivers, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, that's not a pleasant experience. But I look at the Chargers and I see this team desperately needing Quinton Johnston. It's like you look at what they have. They desperately need him. They desperately need him. So 5th year option makes sense to me. Jonathan Brooks. Yes. Jonathan Brooks said he's been fully cleared to participate in Carolina's off season program and feels close to 100%. Tore his ACL out of Texas retard in 2024. Really sad story. I mean this was the highest drafted running back of that class, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, he was. Have you.

[Mike Wright]

Ahead of Trey Benson?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean Andy, have you been tweaking any Carolina projections yet?

[Jason Moore]

Not with Jonathan Brooks. I mean I have gotten into Carolina. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I just wondered if how you were handling Chuba versus Johnny Brooks because it like I haven't got to them yet but it's like in just, you know, the vibes and thinking through the situation, Chuba feels like he will go back to what he was two years ago, which was a massive steal because I just like the making the bet. Brooks feels so difficult.

[Mike Wright]

It's really tough when you come back from an ACL and then have an immediate, you know, ACL rupture again. And now he's coming back. And you'd hope that this quote is like, I'm. I'm 100%. And he's still like, I'm close to 100%, which is not great. I've done the Panthers. I had chuba down for 230 carries to Brooks's 72.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

He had Chuba at 230. I have him at 205 right now. But I also spread the ball to A.J. dillon's on that roster now. Trevor Etn, rookie last year, had 20 opportunities. He could get more this year. And Jonathan Brooks, it's really hard to expect much from him, but it would be nice to see him on the field, I think.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, this. This is one of the like. Think about this. We're doing rookie drafts all over the place right now, around the office. We're doing real rookie drafts. And you get all over the place. You get to these places over the world. In the middle of the second where it just. The floor drops out and you're just

[Andy Holloway]

guessing middle of second.

[Mike Wright]

I was being late first.

[Jason Moore]

Late first?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

At about 112 where I was picking.

[Mike Wright]

But what pick would you say? You know what? I would rather take a shot on Jonathan Brooks if I could basically draft him here, this version trade. What pick right now in your rookie picks to go acquire Jonathan Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he would go ahead of Adam Randall or Mike Washington.

[Andy Holloway]

He would for me.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I would. I'd be willing, like, I'll do a second rounder for Jonathan Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

So you would go make that trade? Just super.

[Andy Holloway]

It's real volatile of Ken. Jonathan Brooks ever come back?

[Jason Moore]

This is just because of draft capital and talent.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And age. He's still very young. I mean, he's. I think he's younger than some of these running backs you'll be drafting as a rookie this year.

[Jason Moore]

And how old are his knees?

[Mike Wright]

72.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. I don't think we have any other news, so let's just jump right in. We got the entire NFC to get through today. It's time.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, rookie. Welcome to the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

Turns out the Cardinals playing the NFC, and we're starting with the NFC west, which means our 3 and 14 cardinals are the first team we'll get to talk about.

[Andy Holloway]

Huzzah.

[Mike Wright]

We shared a lot of information on our opinions of the Jeremiah Love pick on the last episode. I know it was the afc, but so many big storylines were out of the nfc and we are the Cardinals fans, so we kind of launched the show. If you want more Details. I don't think we'll rehash the contract situation and all that. Well, just suffice to say the Cardinals are so freaking stupid. And it is the.

[Jason Moore]

You just rehashed it.

[Mike Wright]

I just recapped it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, much different.

[Mike Wright]

Just they're stupid recap is more brief than a cash. The details are on the last episode.

[Andy Holloway]

Cap goes on the top.

[Jason Moore]

The Cardinals drafted the player projected to be the number one rookie pick. And them drafting him didn't change that.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

Jeremiah Love is still the number one pick. I think in the majority of. I. I would not mind if somebody wanted to take Carnell Tate.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

It's not happening where I'm watching drafts. But. But I love. I don't think that that is. Historically, you look back at rookie drafts and how stupid we are half the time. I don't think that that is. If you're a team that's completely flush at running back. I don't think Tate is a bad pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. And like, I don't know what. Just nasty bad karma. Tyler Algier poor.

[Jason Moore]

Let's. Let's say that he prayer for him

[Andy Holloway]

gets drafted by the Falcons. Oh, Tyler Day three pick breaks their record. Their rookie record for rushing over a thousand. And then they're like, yeah, but we got a chance to get Bijan. Oh, what is the lights doing?

[Mike Wright]

It's like we're in a matching vibe.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, and. And you're like, oh, that sucks, man. I get it, though. It's Bijan. Don't worry. This will never happen to you.

[Jason Moore]

One day I'll be a real boy.

[Andy Holloway]

Gets paid to be a starter. Get. We get reports that Algiers like, yo, what the heck, man? I was brought here to be the starter. And then the Cardinals like, no, because we can get Jeremiah Love. So I Algiers the biggest loser. It sucks. I feel bad for that guy because I think he really deserved his chance. And for fantasy, Algier will. He'll do some of the stuff that he did to be John Steel. Touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

The Arizona Cardinals because he's good. The Arizona Cardinals could have had no question that whether or not they would be able to draft Jeremiah Love at 3. There's no. The jets aren't doing that with Breeze hall, who they've got on the franchise and Mendoza's one. So it's like, this is not like, oh, you couldn't see this coming before you signed Tyler Algier.

[Andy Holloway]

That is a very. Come on.

[Mike Wright]

Guys are so stupid.

[Jason Moore]

That's because they didn't really have this plan. Well, some of their plan Started early, trade him. They didn't get what they wanted because nobody bent because nobody else wants to draft a running back at three. All right.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But from a fantasy perspective, Algier and Connor, both massive losers. Jeremiah Love will be the bell cow. You don't draft a running back at three and not let him do that. Algier could steal some touchdowns like you said but I think love will have 200 plus opportunities.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Mike Wright]

I would say rookie year Jeremiah Love is going to be a disappointment. I believe fantasy wise where he's drafted he'll be a slight disappointment. It is not a bad landing spot destination going forward. They don't have as bad an offensive line as like the Raiders was going

[Andy Holloway]

to say last year. Are you thinking a genty level disappointment?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, very similar. I mean Genti was the running back 12 last year but still was definitely a disappointment.

[Andy Holloway]

He was not a good pick.

[Mike Wright]

So I mean right now I expect Jeremiah Love to end up in my rankings at like running back 15 like a running back two.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I know we don't like the team and we don't think they'll win but the truth about Arizona is that their offense was very good. Which a couple of you Brissette like statistically you look at it, they were very good. They were. They were ninth.

[Mike Wright]

They were.

[Andy Holloway]

They were ninth in total. In totality, yes. Their actual EPA and everything like that was really really bad.

[Jason Moore]

Look at that offense. They have every piece you could want to dominate. Harrison and Wilson. Wilson who went crazy last year. They have the best tight end in the league in McBride. They have now a number three overall pick, the highest paid running back in the league. They have a lot of weapons on that team. It's just wild to me that it's like they just need to figure out the play, call the pass.

[Mike Wright]

They also did not in any way shape or form this off season address their defense at all.

[Jason Moore]

Which is great for fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

It's great for fantasy. They didn't do it in the free agent market. They really didn't even do it in the draft. I mean they went Jeremiah Love then a guard, then Carson Beck and so this is still going to be a team that is going. If you want to win a game you're going to have to. And they have 430.

[Jason Moore]

They have a play caller that people believe in and trust in. You saw the difference in the offensive play of Jacksonville last year. Jacksonville was the bottom dwelling team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, this isn't. I don't think this is a bad landing spot for Jeremiah Love. My issue and the reason why I say in redraft year one, it'll be disappointing. I do think that the James Conner and Tyler Algier combo will be involved. They will get goal line, they will get receptions. That'd be great for Connor. For Connor.

[Andy Holloway]

He should be training for the team. And Andy, just to point it out even further, 2024, the Arizona Cardinals had 42 total touchdowns last year. They only had 40. Like this was a team that was getting destroyed. So they couldn't run. So they were throwing.

[Jason Moore]

No, they couldn't run at all. They were four string running.

[Andy Holloway]

So they, I mean they were very successful in giving us fantasy points and getting yards and things like that. But isn't like a truly effective offense? I don't think they. They were.

[Mike Wright]

And there's a good chance at the end of the season we're going to see rookie Carson Beck, third rounder running this offense, which will not be good for fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

So multiple things here. I hated that pick. Like, as someone who you're like, yeah, I've said I don't want to be a fan of the Cardinals. I'm not really just like try to pull me back in. I think this is just a, this is a waste of a pick because the highest odds are next year. You're very high up in the draft. You won't notice Carson Beck have it because when you, by the time you put him in, it will just be like towards the end of the year and you're playing against other teams where people are giving up. So I hated the pick. I also hate that you like if you're in a super flex rookie draft, you have to think about it because you're like, hey, what if, what if we're all, what if I'm wrong? What if the NFL is wrong and not taking Carson Beck higher and he's good.

[Jason Moore]

There's a hive of people who believe he is because the situation is he's now three or four in super flex quarterback rankings. Because you're going to have Simpson, you're going to have Mendoza.

[Andy Holloway]

Should he be two?

[Mike Wright]

I mean we'll get to the Rams, but I don't think so. I would not take.

[Andy Holloway]

Because Ty Simpson is an injury away or years away. I think two years at minimum. And it's like Carson Beckham should at least try to play.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he's getting snaps this year unless something changed with the depth chart. I think Arizona will play Jacoby and they'll play Minshew before they play back.

[Mike Wright]

But, well, their draft to Sum up the entirety of their draft in their off season. The Cardinals are the highest odds for Vegas to get the number one pick next year. So they're not expected to do good things.

[Jason Moore]

It's amazing when like you took your shot at Miami, who by the way, they, they weren't a good team. You took your shot at them on Twitter and everybody attacks you like you think the Cardinals will be better than them. We are not appealing to. There is zero pride left on that front. I think you were just sharing your opinion, especially through the fantasy lands.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was genuinely just for fantasy of Miami.

[Jason Moore]

And so look, Miami's the second highest odds for the number one pick. So there are a bunch of bad teams. We'll talk about them. San Francisco 12 and 5.

[Andy Holloway]

They go.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they didn't have a first, so they spent their second round pick on. Not Denzel Boston, who was sitting there. Right.

[Mike Wright]

They could have.

[Jason Moore]

But Dazon Stribling and they.

[Mike Wright]

They would have taken him with their first round pick. They said that. But they traded back into the second.

[Jason Moore]

We'll take him. We'll take him earlier than you could

[Mike Wright]

even believe, which they still did. They still took him. They traded trade for number one and then they drafted him higher than anyone would have believed. Dejan Stribling is a really fascinating guy for dynasty leagues. I'm watching him go in the third round of rookie drafts.

[Andy Holloway]

He went. He went. Third round of ours.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean at the 302.

[Mike Wright]

That's in. That's unacceptable.

[Andy Holloway]

Second round running back.

[Mike Wright]

I get that. The, you know, we wide receiver. We dunked.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yes, thank you.

[Mike Wright]

We dunked on the 49ers. They have a history of failing with their day two skill position picks. That's just an objective fact over the last several years. However, this is a player that they basically were ready to take in the first round. They did take him very high. Super high draft capital. An offense. That's good. And because the draft community and the big board community was not really up on Stribling like maybe we should have been because we weren't earlier, we aren't now. And that's a mistake.

[Jason Moore]

No, I stand by that position.

[Mike Wright]

You stand by that he is not good enough to be.

[Jason Moore]

When the 49ers have reached for players they don't work out on the field and so they reach for a player that nobody has a consensus belief in and they take him early and we're supposed to believe in them. I'm not going to go to that place. I don't see the depth chart Showing me that.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me tell you a story.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, they have Pearson, Jalen Polk. Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Second round picked by the New England Patriots who lasted about five seconds.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I just don't believe this is a team that wants to win a Super Bowl. I don't see this rookie in the second round that should have gone in the fourth round contributing more than a handful of catches on the year they have Pearsall, Evans, Kirk. I have a different opinion than you on that one.

[Mike Wright]

It's just simply the. The one of the greatest signals for success. As much as we're other teams.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

From only other teams.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Is draft capital. I mean, that is pretty much. If you were to. If you were to do all your rookie drafts with nothing but draft capital. You just take whoever was taken highest and you're going to do all right. It's kind of like auto drafting in a. With your ADP in your fantasy football league. That sucks.

[Jason Moore]

You believed in golden all last year.

[Mike Wright]

It's why I took him. And that's not going to work sometimes, but a lot of things don't work. I mean, you're just trying to make the bets that are 60% odds and usually higher draft picks perform.

[Jason Moore]

All right, now do Caleb Black.

[Andy Holloway]

I say I'm with you, Jason. If I'm in the third round of my rookie draft, I'll take Stribling there. But I'm more on Andy side of like there's guys drafted after him that I prefer to take the shot on. And Kalen Black, third round running back from the San Francisco 49ers, were here yet again for I don't know how many years in a row and prepared to be fooled by it. I had the 212. I have Christian McCaffrey in our dynasty league. I took Caitlin Black. I took him over Stribling because like I'm going to take a chance that I have the 49ers insurance running back. I know that will not be correct.

[Jason Moore]

No Jordan James this year, most likely.

[Andy Holloway]

Or maybe it's Garendo again.

[Jason Moore]

I mean they go through four a year.

[Andy Holloway]

So yeah, I picked him up.

[Jason Moore]

He's 24 and a half years old.

[Andy Holloway]

Prepared for it to be wrong. Caleb Black is so bizarre.

[Mike Wright]

He was not invited to the combine.

[Andy Holloway]

Not invited to the combine. And yet what do we got? 10.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, 10, 10 teams.

[Andy Holloway]

He did a top 30 visit for.

[Jason Moore]

I want that agent.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, doing good work.

[Andy Holloway]

So I.

[Jason Moore]

The San Francisco 49ers have drafted over the last five years. Trey Sermon in the third round. Elijah Mitchell in the sixth, Tyrion Davis Price in the third. Isaac Garindo was four in the fourth. And now Jordan James was the fifth round pick last year. Now Kaylan Black in the third.

[Andy Holloway]

Who was the.

[Jason Moore]

Elijah Mitchell worked but he wasn't above ADP like expectation at all. He was a six round steel.

[Mike Wright]

No, I mean when you look at reaches, both of these offensive players this year were massive reaches over where they were expected to go in the draft. They, they could have gone probably rounds later.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyle, who was the, who was the. One of the OGs. It was the. Where we got all the reports. Kyle Shanahan is, is pounding the table

[Jason Moore]

for somebody that they has to draft

[Andy Holloway]

this running back and then they got drafted and we never heard from him again.

[Jason Moore]

I mean Tyrion Davis Price was one of them for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there was been a lot.

[Jason Moore]

I don't believe anything. They'll be a good team, but they're. The one thing about San Francisco is that they. While they draft players in the wrong spots and miss on them, they also have no. It's ironic because you're saying, look, the statistics say your draft capital associates with success, which it does broadly. Not nuanced necessarily, but broadly. It's 100% fact.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Williams.

[Jason Moore]

But they don't give a crap about where the players been drafted. They can draft Trey Sermon and in the third. And if Elijah Mitchell has two better practices, that's their loyalty all of a sudden.

[Mike Wright]

That is legitimately true with the San Francisco 49ers. That is a point that can't be argued against. I mean look at, look at Brock purdy. He was Mr. Irrelevant the last pick in the draft. They're like, you're the better player. You're. You're up.

[Jason Moore]

And so if these guys are better, they'll play that.

[Mike Wright]

That's where it's ironic because I, I have that same opinion, but more on the Caleb Black side because I don't, I just don't think Caleb Black's a good running back at all.

[Andy Holloway]

He was productive.

[Mike Wright]

I don't. Was he the best running back on his team?

[Andy Holloway]

No, he wasn't the more productive of the two, but he was and he's athletic.

[Jason Moore]

Joe Williams, man, I remember Joe Williams. Yeah. Fourth round of Shannon's first draft. All right, we're taking a break. We're talking Rams.

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

this is this is the division of confusion in the dress. So like I said, the Cardinals were done a favor by San Francisco in my opinion, spending picks that it was. If you like these guys, just take them Later.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

And then the Rams blew everybody's mind, including, I think, their head coach, who, you know, you can read it however you want. I watched press conferences from previous years. I watched this one. Either he was constipated or he didn't like the pick. Ty Simpson goes 13 overall to a team that was a eyelash from the Super Bowl. Shocking to me when, like, Makai Lemon's there to be taken. When you talk about they might trade or get rid of devonte Adams this off season, I couldn't believe, like, we all. We all picked Makai Lemon to the Rams. None of us picked ty Simpson at 13 to the Rams. He hadn't even spoken to Sean McVeigh before.

[Mike Wright]

So that is actually not true.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a report of a secret meeting.

[Mike Wright]

So here's what top the way. Yeah. The way that this has gone down has been a roller coaster. What happened was the first press conference you had Sean McVay just looking like his dog died. Very unhappy. Short answered, not like you've ever seen him before. The next day, he comes out to the press conference, jokes around, brings it up right off the bat about why he was upset, what was happening. And he basically said, the truth is that was out of respect for Matthew Stafford. He did not want to go out there and sit down and look overjoyed about the future. This is Stafford's team. He wants to project it that way. And then it came out. You know, they were talking about, oh, they had never even met Sean McVay. Just really. They don't ever meet with who they draft pick. Then Ty Simpson had an interview where he's talking about. He was told from the Rams a lot about this. He was given a script of what, like how to behave and what to say and what to not say.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I didn't read that.

[Mike Wright]

And then, like, he had to keep everything under wraps about any of their meetings. They had the secret meetings with McVeigh. So this was.

[Andy Holloway]

This was.

[Mike Wright]

This was. At first I thought this was a very GM over head coach situation. I don't believe that to be the case anymore. I think they were in sync and they're looking at the future of this franchise. They don't usually have a pick. I mean, they don't usually have a pick in the first round anyways. But let alone at the 13 spot, they're usually and project to have a very low. So if you have any chance to help your franchise in the future, that is. I mean, you're on the edge. I can understand the argument of Taking that and then you go, well, what about the prospect? Is Ty Simpson good? Well, let me tell you, this is a fact. If Ty Simpson went to the Arizona Cardinals, he would not develop.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

He would not become a good NFL quarterback. If Ty Simpson gets to sit for two years behind Matthew Stafford and get trained by Sean McVeigh, I'll bet, I'll bet he ends up being a pretty good quarterback. That's my opinion.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think there's anything wrong with any of that. I think that's all true. I think it's a shocking pick when your team is on the. On the edge of success. I also think it's a little bit funny when it's like, oh, you never get a pick at 13. So now that we're at 13, we're going to take a guy that wouldn't have gone until the end of the round. We're going to take him at 13 because we have that pick. That part shocked me too. I don't think, you know, maybe Arizona was very vocal about trading up to 25 and you had to do it. Yeah, but there's every chance for him to succeed. We don't know when that will be. It might be a couple years away. It doesn't do any good to debate how, you know, predicated it is. He's a Ram. That's what he is Now. I took him in the second round of our dynasty draft because I am building for 20, 28 and I'm like, I'm going to take a shot at a quarterback that could be the starter on the Rams with McVeigh in two years.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't blame especially the build of your team going with him, you know, a little bit earlier than I think he'll go in most single quarterback drafts. I really like the pick and is the Aaron Rodgers stuff we just read at the top of this show where the team is being held ransom by an old busted quarterback is they know the time of Stafford is coming to an end sooner than later. Be prepared for it. This is to me it's like this is nothing like Kirk Cousins getting the bag of money and then them drafting Michael Penix. This is a.

[Mike Wright]

It's nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

This is more like the Jordan Love move. This is where, yeah, that, that did piss off Aaron Rodgers, but look where the Green Bay packers are now because of that.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, but here's the counter argument to that and I think where Andy's saying this is a bad draft. This is a very similar situation to what happened with Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers, you Had you literally have the MVP this year in Matthew Stafford. You're close to a championship, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

If you rewind the tape to 2020, we can say, well, Jordan Love was a good pick. That would help their franchise. They're good. But maybe they win this in 2020. They were in the championship game and they were a hair away from winning that. And they. They passed on T. Higgins in that draft to get Jordan Love. You telling me that maybe you don't win that if you ended up with T. Higgins like Makai Lemon and you

[Jason Moore]

do, you still have to. Like I know McVeigh, he's not going to be a. He's not necessarily going to be a miracle worker for everybody at quarterback. Like, what's the ceiling for Ty Simpson in reality? Is this pick going to look more like the Michael Pinnock's pick or is it going to look. Or Kenny Pickett or somebody in the first round that just didn't develop, or is it going to be the future of your franchise? That's where I think people debated whether Simpson was worth. If everybody believed in Simpson, he would have gone in the top five.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

So that. That's where it's going to be interesting from a fantasy perspective.

[Andy Holloway]

I bet they all believe in Ty Simpson now. All those teams that like the Cardinals like. Wait, McVeigh, you like him that much? Oh, crap.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy losers of this draft is the. Is the insanely deep and now probably useless tight end room that has Colby Parkinson who scored five times last year. Tyler Higby who came back from injury. Terrence Ferguson who they drafted and you know, believe in Davis Allen has flashed. Now they draft, draft Max Claire in the second round. They live for tight ends.

[Mike Wright]

And he's a good tight end. Max Claire is like a good tight end. Bets is very excited for or was at least very excited for him. What a terrible landing spot. Good for the Rams. A good pick, a good player. But I don't know how they're going to use all five of these tight ends.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, like there are. There's Tyler, there's Tyler Higby, retirement rumors floating around. So I mean, like maybe not this year. And then is. What's the contract situation for like Kobe Parkinson?

[Mike Wright]

Parkinson just got a big contract. I mean, I guess it was.

[Andy Holloway]

I felt like he was on the. Kyle, is he on the last year? Like the. I think. I think maybe they're the. Yeah. So Colby and Allen are free agents in 2027.

[Mike Wright]

They're for this year.

[Andy Holloway]

This is their. Because this is their new way of doing the offense. So they want to make sure that they're stocked for this year.

[Mike Wright]

I think that you just have to avoid all tight ends there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. I think that's.

[Jason Moore]

They didn't do anything. Wide receiver. So if you want to talk about fantasy winners. There you go. Devonte Adams is still on this roster

[Andy Holloway]

and he'll catch a bunch of touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Seattle, they did it. They spent the first round pick on Jadarian Price. Wild, as expected.

[Mike Wright]

Guardians in the first day.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. He was a very popular pick to their. Andy, you. You believe that they would do it. I say wild of a first round pick on a running back with that level of production is that.

[Jason Moore]

That level of production has not. I mean, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

That's crazy.

[Jason Moore]

The one thing I'll say is that unanimously, from pretty much the jump until the day of the draft, it was pretty unanimous that Price was the number two prospect in this entire draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. In the mock draft world. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Well, not just in our world, but in the NFL world, like, there wasn't a move for Emmett Johnson or Jonah Coleman to pass him. It was pretty unanimous from people's perspectives that Price was the second best talent.

[Mike Wright]

I think that's what pushed him. Not, not that he was the second best, but the gap between him and everyone else is what pushed him up into the first. Whereas, like, if we don't get him, we don't see a player that can come in and be in a really important role for our team. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Drafted Jonah Coleman.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You and me. You and me agree. However, for fantasy purposes, this is an incredibly important pick. This, the Seahawks. Charbonnet is not going to be ready week one. Charbonnet will most likely be starting on the pup. It might be the end of the year before he's.

[Jason Moore]

I projected him for eight games played.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So you're talking about a team that wants to run the ball, that's successful, literally super bowl champions coming in. And so that's what you got to do. It's a great pick. He is going to get the rock a lot. And he doesn't even have to succeed in order to get the Rock more and more and more. We saw that with Charbonnet. They just. They will do. They'll say, we are committed to handing this ball off.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, Charbonnet is a fantasy loser from the draft with Price being drafted there. Emmanuel Wilson, the free agent acquisition, a loser in the draft. You know, Jadarian Price is a winner. You know, the fantasy community that needs a relevant rookie to step up to the plate. If you Draft him, you're going to get snaps. And that's pretty much what you can say about that.

[Mike Wright]

Big winner here, Eli Lilly Jardians in the first.

[Jason Moore]

I think the comp to Josh Jacobs is perfect for what we saw. Limited Josh Jacobs. I mean, he was the last one that has had under 700 receiving or rushing yards in a final season and then get drafted that high. I think that comps perfect. I think Price is a great running back. I think he'll succeed there, especially because of how, you know, he's going into such a perfect situation. It's kind of the opposite of what Jeremiah Love has to do. Where I feel like Love has. He has to carry a lot of the responsibility for that offense now in Arizona. And I think Price just gets to go do his thing. He's got other players that can come in. They won't have Charbonnet right away, but George Holani will be getting snaps.

[Mike Wright]

At least Jacobs had a receiving profile, though.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I know. There's no, there's no receiving profile here at all. I think, what, five catches or something.

[Andy Holloway]

But Price, I mean, jumped and I think he's pretty locked in at the 105 in your rookie drafts.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, because Concepcion went to the Browns, you're like. And it's going to, you would have to project. It's going to take a little bit of time. Even if KC does pan out to be a good player, I would, I'd take him 105.

[Jason Moore]

The New York Giants did not end up spending the early picks that I had thought they would spend on offense with a Jordan Tyson or a Jeremiah Love who never fell to them. Instead, they went defense and offensive tackle, cornerback in the second. And their one offensive splash was Malachi Fields in the third round, who is a monster of a man.

[Andy Holloway]

I hate this.

[Jason Moore]

You hate the pick?

[Andy Holloway]

I hate, I hate it because this was the spot that I was. That I was using all of my willpower to get one of the bigger wide receivers, as in like the higher end guys. And it's like Malachi Fields is. He's big physically. I mean, you know, it's. It's not that he's a bad player. It's just things didn't go nearly as well as he had hoped this year. He had kind of, you know, his draft stock fell and. But I will be interested in a Giants wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Malachi Fields finds a great landing spot here being with Jackson Dart and really it's Malik, Neighbors and a bunch of Jags. I mean, they, they don't like Darius Slayton at all there as a passion.

[Jason Moore]

They did add Darnell Mooney in the off season. Don't forget that as well.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Fields is a prospect that I was ready to be out on.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. See, that's what I mean.

[Mike Wright]

Before the draft, I was ready to be out on him. I am fine taking a shot now with this landing spot.

[Jason Moore]

Cam Scatterboo, big winner of the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, the people, the people, the people are thrilled.

[Andy Holloway]

The people love it.

[Jason Moore]

It's a big deal. And I'm going to go out and just say Malik Neighbors is a winner of the draft because what I didn't. My biggest fear this off season with Neighbors was the combination of a high profile, exciting wide receiver landing and him missing a few games. And again, his time with Jackson Dart is nonexistent. Which means that if he misses a few games and Jordan Tyson becomes the dude for Jackson Dart, it's great for Dart. It's not great for Neighbors managers. And that would have worried me a little bit. Neighbors, if anything, you look at the off season and you say, well, you subtract Wanda Robinson's billion targets and you replace it with Mooney and Malachi Fields. It seems like the targets will be just fine for Malik Neighbors, but man,

[Andy Holloway]

just imagine, we almost had the world guys, the Giants, Malik Neighbors and Jordan Tyson.

[Mike Wright]

I think you're saying this from the perspective of Jackson Dart, but I actually

[Andy Holloway]

think that, oh, it would have been nasty.

[Mike Wright]

I think that the offensive tackle is as big a help for.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not going to take up wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

Dart is a winner here because they did add a wide receiver on day two and got an offensive tackle. I like what they did.

[Andy Holloway]

The commanders, Maui Noah.

[Jason Moore]

You're talking about the tackle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

No, I like. For what it's worth, broadly, I like what the Giants did in the draft. I think it was a good draft. Washington, they spent a third round pick on Antonio Williams. Again, Washington was rumored to be in the running back game and to be which they did, they got probably a steal on Katrin Allen in the sixth round.

[Andy Holloway]

You mean like Caitron Allen is going to steal their money?

[Jason Moore]

How do you. How do you mean?

[Andy Holloway]

Because he's not that good.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you don't like him?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I got you. Yeah. That was a shot at him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That was an insult.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Where did Nick two freshly paid, drafted running.

[Jason Moore]

Where did Singleton go?

[Andy Holloway]

Fifth round.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he went ahead of Ktron Allen, Antonio Williams, wide receiver in the third round. Again, Washington was one of Those teams, we thought maybe we'd use number seven overall to go after. They could have taken Jordan Tyson. Right. It tells me a little bit about their plans maybe with Brandon Iuk that they did not prioritize another big name. Because if you put. Sure, if you put Brandon Iuk with Terry McLaurin, with Chiga Conquo with Antonio

[Andy Holloway]

Williams, with Ben Senate. I hear you loud and clear, brother.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, you got it. So Antonio Williams, I mean, did you. He worked Ben Senate into that. He did this draft.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, we are talking about the

[Andy Holloway]

Commanders third year breakout.

[Jason Moore]

Traylon Burks too, man. Your guy, Jay.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, dude. I mean, A.J. brown, who. I think this is a great landing spot for Antonio Williams. He's. He's shot up my dynasty rankings. The GM has come out and talked so much about why they like Antonio Williams. Targeting Antonio Williams, the opportunity that he finds himself in is great. I mean, if Brandon Ayuk shows up, that will nerf it a little bit. But as of now, he has a real opportunity to be the wide receiver to. For a good offense. That's hard to find yourself in that situation. You expect Jayden Daniels to be good. Terry McLaurin's the one and they really need someone else to step up. So Antonio Williams right now, I mean, he. He is my number 12 ranked rookie. So he's a. He is the back of the first round for me.

[Jason Moore]

Catron Allen will have an opportunity whether you like him or not. This backfield did not add other pieces.

[Andy Holloway]

Please refer to Caitron by his chosen name, Fat Man.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's right. That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't know about this one, Andy.

[Mike Wright]

This one's real.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not a joke. That was. No, no, no, no.

[Mike Wright]

It's not a joke, Fat Man. It's not our nickname.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I will call him that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah,

[Jason Moore]

Fat Man.

[Mike Wright]

We honor and we honor and respect these players.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Travis H.N. jr. Rumble, rumble, fat Man. And Fat Man. Oh, this I like him more.

[Andy Holloway]

What a gift, Catron.

[Jason Moore]

His mama calls him Fat Man.

[Mike Wright]

It does make me like him more.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Fat Man Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

Mama calls him Fat Man. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That's where the.

[Jason Moore]

So we have Bill Crosky and Fat man in that backfield.

[Mike Wright]

And Crawdad.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to 2026.

[Mike Wright]

I forgot. I just was excited on the name.

[Jason Moore]

I know, I know. You just got to be faithful. There you go. Jacori Kraski. Merit is a winner, by the way.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Because you did not. You did not end up with the Jeremiah Love situation. I thought maybe JCM's window was completely shut. It was possible and it seems like they're willing to have him in a committee with Rashad White.

[Mike Wright]

I can't wait for Rashad White to be the clear leading back again and be good for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

While everyone hates there's major problem there.

[Mike Wright]

He's busy for shot by.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's not good at running.

[Andy Holloway]

It might it just so people are aware, Antonio Williams did run 93% of his routes from the slot last year. So they, you know, you might have a Jaden Reed problem with his traylon burks.

[Jason Moore]

I think they gave him money. Right. And he's going to come back. Jalen Lane still on the roster. Van Jefferson, I think is still on the roster.

[Mike Wright]

Can't cut that guy.

[Jason Moore]

They did say goodbye to Debo, though, right? So Debo's gone. Debo and nobody even knows if he's anywhere.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I haven't heard a peepee as technically a free agent. I heard it too. What sounded like I haven't heard of peepee.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you, the Roadrunner?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's it. Dallas.

[Andy Holloway]

Where did you hear pee pee Peepee. They heard Mike. Oh, you had a bunch of children

[Mike Wright]

can't find Deebo's pee pee anywhere.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's not what anyone said.

[Mike Wright]

Jason, thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Look at that wall. Look at that Magic Mike wall.

[Jason Moore]

Nobody came close to saying that.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, one of us did. One of us said it.

[Andy Holloway]

You did.

[Mike Wright]

So there you go.

[Jason Moore]

Take a lap. Take a lap. Jason.

[Mike Wright]

The Dallas Cowboys.

[Jason Moore]

Dallas Cowboys.

[Andy Holloway]

They did put them on the wall. And we're done.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, they went defense in this draft. The news.

[Jason Moore]

Which is bad news for fantasy. You want to say who's a fantasy loser? We are.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Because Caleb Downs is awesome.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I love him.

[Mike Wright]

And he's going to make Malachi Lawrence a big difference on this defense. The. The only offensive stuff in this draft was really the news as to whether or not CD Lamb or I'm sorry, George Pickens was going to sign his franchise. He did sign. He didn't. We talked about it last episode. He could end up holding out into the season.

[Jason Moore]

More optimism when you didn't like Makai Lemon went in the first round to Philadelphia. That made you say, well, there's a plan there. There wasn't a plan in these draft picks to replace George Pickens. I'll tell you that.

[Mike Wright]

That is absolutely true. And Makai Lemon could never have gone there to the Eagles, their division mate, if the Cowboys had not moved down, given them that pick.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of the Eagles you know, multiple

[Andy Holloway]

years ago you had.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Devonte Adams.

[Andy Holloway]

No. CD Lamb. They drafted CD Lamb. When they didn't like when they were on the clock. We weren't. This was still. Cooper was still like the good version of Dallas. Amari Cooper. Yeah, we didn't think they would take City Layman. They just, they said this is the best guy on our board. So I, I would believe that if they thought that highly of Makai Lemon, they would have just taken him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they could have. They could have made the statement to George right there and they didn't. Philadelphia did take Makai Lemon with the 20th overall pick, stealing him from the clutches of the Pittsburgh Steelers. And good for you, Makai. You don't have to go. Will Howard Drew all or Aaron Rodgers this thing. The first two picks, offensive weapons, Makai Lemon and Eli Stowers, both values. Both could make instant impacts. Although I would imagine those of you drafting Stowers in dynasty leagues will have to wait a year to get major production. Dallas Goddard was brought back and was very productive in this offense. I'd be shocked if they would just hand the reins to Stowers, but here we go. We got, we got some actual weapons for a team that may lose A.J. brown soon.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, that's what the signal here was. They are losing A.J. brown. Like that's what it's. They trade up to get a wide receiver in the first round after all of the. I don't even know if it's rumor, so it's just reported that on June 1st there's a trade that's going to happen with the, with the Patriots tbd. But when you then go and grab Makai Lemon and Eli Stowers, it's like, oh yeah, yeah, we see you are working on your offense post AJ Brown.

[Jason Moore]

It's strange because, I mean, maybe this will be a minority opinion. I don't think you're a better offense with Makai Lemon and Eli Stowers than you are with A.J. brown this year. So I think that that'll be an interesting way when we're projecting Philadelphia for the fantasy output of Jalen Hurts in this offense which struggled tremendously last year was not a high pass volume offense. I think there will be a little bit of a transition period. Kai Lemon is certainly not built the same way that A.J. brown is or to serve the same role. Stowers is a monster. We all love him. Don Tavian Wicks had a two week window of being kind of maybe important. That is gone in Philadelphia. And Jalen Hurts benefits from at least adding more weapons because if you just took A.J. brown away we'd be very scared about this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, this is very good for Jalen Hurts and for Dynasty version of Jalen Hurts as well because Mikhail him and Eli Stowers rookies, they will get better and I think that those two are great players. So smart franchises draft great players.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're going to take another break and jump into the NFC North.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

This one, we got two more whole divisions, guys. Did you know that?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we'll be able to go pretty quick on some of these.

[Jason Moore]

Well, how about the Lions?

[Mike Wright]

That's one of them.

[Jason Moore]

Start there. They didn't really do anything impactful. You could say Isaiah Pacheco was a fantasy winner. They didn't. You know, Mike had picked Jadarian Price to Detroit as a surprise. They spent a fifth round pick on a wide receiver. I think that means they feel really comfortable with Amon Radio, Jameson Williams and Isaac Tislaw and agreed and we're moving on.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they did get a tackle with their first pick, which is.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoa, that one scared me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, because you're not the one pushing the button for once.

[Jason Moore]

It was also like, yeah, it's terrible. Seconds after I said to Sloth I

[Mike Wright]

was giving you time to do the

[Andy Holloway]

right thing and oh, that was.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, but yeah, they have.

[Jason Moore]

I got scared too, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

I got places on me that are tight that shouldn't be tight.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of Debo.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Anyways, their offensive line has gotten worse from the incredible offensive line of the last, you know, of couple years ago. But first round pick on a tackle is good.

[Jason Moore]

Minnesota. Minnesota did not end up drafting a running back where we thought they might. In fact, they had back to back picks where we were almost certain that Jonah Coleman would be a Minnesota Viking.

[Mike Wright]

They brought out five top 30 visits for running backs and usually.

[Jason Moore]

Nope, nope, nope, nope. More Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

No. What?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no, I sing. Nope. To each one.

[Mike Wright]

I thought I was saying something.

[Jason Moore]

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Yeah, I got it right.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there you go. But usually that's like an 80% clip to take a running back. Well before they did they wait until the sixth round and they got.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Clayborne there. So yeah. Aaron Jones, Jordan Mason. Fantasy winners. Moving on. Green Bay. Moving on. Now Green Bay. I mean it was cornerback, defensive tackle, defensive end, center cornerback. You know, again, pretty good endorsement of Matthew golden and Christian Watson on this offense. You didn't spend anything on any more wide receivers yet. You lost Wicks and Dobbs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, it's great news for the existing wide receiver core and an opportunity for Matthew golden to prove that he is. They wanted him to be and for

[Jason Moore]

Christian Watson to finally like be a one in this offense and for, you know, Marshawn Lloyd to step up and be A like relevant committee back. No more Emmanuel Wilson and they didn't draft the running back. So Green Bay, Josh Jacobs and who you have on the roster, you were the winners there. The Chicago Bears, dot, dot, dot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Not a ton.

[Jason Moore]

I mean there, there were, you know, Deandre Swift and Manangai are the guys at running back. We did not get a running back drafted.

[Mike Wright]

That was the story. I mean this wasn't a deep running back draft class anyway, so you kind of felt like they were safer. But early in the off season it felt like Swift was going to get cut and wasn't even going to be a part of this team. And now I'm like Swift is going to be exactly what he has always been, a solid RB2 for fantasy for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we can talk about this one. The New Orleans Saints 6 and 11 last year with the 8th overall pick. Jason called this one on his predictions. Jordan Tyson of the Arizona State Sun Devils heads to New Orleans to join Chris Olave to join Tyler Schuck. What do we think about. I mean Tyson was my number one wide receiver in this draft class.

[Andy Holloway]

He remains my number one.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. Same.

[Jason Moore]

What's funny is I don't know if he remains my number one.

[Andy Holloway]

You like Tate more?

[Jason Moore]

I like Tate more. At this point my rookie rankings have Tate higher, but Tyson is a great landing spot. Great upside provided for Tyler Schuck, but you know, Crystal Lave is still the dude there. My rankings clearly are going to show that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean this is wonderful. They desperately needed another pass catching option. Their second best catcher of the ball is probably Juwan Johnson before this draft and that can't be good for your franchise. So good for Tyler Schuck. I think Tyler Schuck also in the third round. Oscar Delp is La Jolla. Oscar Delp. La Jolla. Thank you. Yes, yes. We both heard that during the draft when they drafted the third pick, Oscar Delp and both Mike and I not even in the same building.

[Jason Moore]

We both are the dumbest.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, we are.

[Jason Moore]

Oscar Dill, La Jolla, he is not a. Yeah. He's not a player that he's going to threaten in the pass catching game.

[Mike Wright]

Right. Right now. But I'm just saying for Tyler Schuck for this offense and they added obviously a Chan junior to this team. I'm excited, excited for the Kellen Moore. Tyler Schuck led Saints off super for fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm super, super excited. Olave and Jordan Tyson is. It's not Malik Neighbors Jordan Tyson, but it's still pretty nasty and that'll be real fun. And then Bryce Lance, AKA Trey Lance's brother, who plays wide receiver. And it's a wide receiver who has all of the athletic ability that Trey Lance had. Except we don't have to worry about him being a bad quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

He doesn't have to throw it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he doesn't have to throw it. He has to catch it. So I mean him in the fourth to bring an extra boost.

[Jason Moore]

You know, it's a pretty high pick

[Andy Holloway]

and field stretching ability. I'm real, real excited for the Saints.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's move on to Atlanta. Their one big offensive pick was a third round selection of Zachariah Branch. Dude's very fast. They do have a very weak depth chart. So when you look at opportunities to break into the rotation, you don't have to go very far. You know, John Dotson and Zacchaeus Zakias is kind of pigeonholed into a specific role.

[Andy Holloway]

So Branch could be as well. We'll see how they use him. You know, around three pick. That's just fine for draft capital at Georgia last year, 51% of his routes were screenshots, which so he's catching the ball at the line of scrimmage half of the time. Which for fantasy football purposes that is generally a big red flag. As in this person will never turn into a mega producer. Not that he can't help the team or maybe he evolves into a wide receiver too at some point. But he's going to be a high risk pick despite being a third round.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to be a high risk but he is also a high reward. We talked about this on the Dynasty show this week. His ability, like I think he is not going to work out these screen warriors in college don't translate to the NFL. I am guessing he will not be a good fantasy player but if he hits what his skill is, is, is, you know, it's, it is the Tyree kill ish kind of stop start that no one else can do and so should he hit it is it's a scratcher ticket. You know, it's like you're probably going to lose, but if you win, you could win big.

[Jason Moore]

That's what a scratcher ticket's about.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Which to be fair, this year's draft, you can't win if you don't play this year's draft. And where he's going in the late second, third round of rookie drafts, yeah, sure, it's all, it's all crap. Go for upside.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's where I let in quarterback Situations determine my differentiator in a lot of rookie drafts where, yeah, Atlanta has two of them. You just talked about Antonio Williams while you got Jaden. Right, like, at least there's that. And here I get like the double whammy of you got to hit and then you got to hit with crap at quarterback. Maybe, maybe, but probably, yes, you have crap. Tampa Bay. Eight and nine fantasy winners for Tampa Bay. We didn't find another running back in this draft that is a benefit for Bucky Irving. We didn't really have a whole lot else going on other than the third round selection of Ted Hurst. This is one of the deepest. Even with the departure of Mike Evans, it's still one of the deepest wide receiver rooms in the league with a Buca and Godwin and McMillan and Tez Johnson, Kate Otten soaking up targets. I know you guys like Ted Hurst. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

I like Ted Hurst.

[Jason Moore]

If you need an injury to have

[Andy Holloway]

a rookie season, it's bad news for. Oh, no, no. I can't think of it. Tez Johnson. Yeah, I think Tez is. Will be the odd man out.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. He would be the odd man out.

[Jason Moore]

I thought Tess played great last year.

[Mike Wright]

He was. He was very good. This is like you said, this is a very deep wide receiver core, but it is not full of firmly established. Like, you've got Godwin and you've got a Buca. Those two guys aren't going anywhere based on draft capital and contract. And then they've got a lot of other talent. But it's not anyone that is so established that someone can't come in over

[Jason Moore]

the top and be the three.

[Mike Wright]

Ted Hurst, well, it'd be the three this year, but Godwin, you know, at this age, with the departure of Mike Evans, Ted Hurst is, I mean, he's obviously not a Mike Evans, but he's a taller field stretching guy that can do six, four something, some of the same stylistic, you know, routes and you know, losing Mike Evans matters for this team. And they went out and they said, hey, day two, we're going to. We're going to target Ted Hurst.

[Jason Moore]

They were Hursty that.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I like it. I'm gonna take a drink on that one. I'm hersty.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Refreshing.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes you, sometimes you say it and then the reaction, you're like, man, I really wish I wouldn't have. There you go.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I like Ted Hurston. I like the landing spot.

[Jason Moore]

You've painted the picture pretty well on an opportunity to break through. It's not like, you know, Tess had 22 catches. Jaylen McMillan was hurt and came back and caught 12 passes. So it's not like those two guys were dominators. I think they're both good. But there is room for the size of a player like Ted Hurst to establish some dominance. Carolina offensive tackle, defensive tackle. Third round pick of Chris Brazell. The second.

[Andy Holloway]

Brazil.

[Jason Moore]

Brazil. Brazil dazzle.

[Mike Wright]

Brazil dazzle. That's from Chicago. These all my music, my musical theater feels special.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy, you got me.

[Jason Moore]

Right? You're right. He's like, you got it, nerds. Chris Brazil, the second, third round pick. I didn't think Carolina would go after.

[Mike Wright]

No, that's all it is. I like his film, I like his production, I like his measurables. And then I. He's from Tennessee. I'm out.

[Jason Moore]

What was that? That was the Adnai. Mitchell and Xavier Worthy.

[Mike Wright]

Jalen.

[Andy Holloway]

No, they were Texas.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they're both Texas.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, you're thinking of Jalen Hyatt.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

What's wrong with that guy?

[Andy Holloway]

For some reason, Tennessee from last year, they just.

[Mike Wright]

Tennessee is able to produce a lot of statistics that somehow are manufactured well in college and doesn't translate. Brazil is a good player. He is. And he's the. He's the son of a. Of a former NFL player, which, you know, so you know, he's grown up knowing ball. Day two draft capital goes to the Carolina Panthers, who really need another weapon outside of Tetaroa.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They have Jalen Coker, who will be healthy this year and has been productive. They have Xavier Lee, got your favorite player in football. He's still there, but there's an opportunity there for sure. Chuba Hubbard. Like. Like we said, they didn't go after a running back. It's good for Jonathan Brooks and chuba hubbard. Trevor etn's still there. A.J. dillon's still there. So that's going to be your backfield. Any other thoughts on Carolina?

[Andy Holloway]

I think that about does it.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. We got through it.

[Andy Holloway]

We did it.

[Jason Moore]

NFC winners and losers in the books. What do we have coming up next week? Don't we have some overreaction episodes coming up?

[Mike Wright]

We've got some things.

[Jason Moore]

Players to forgive. That's what I was going to say. You got some producers to forgive. Why do you think Papa Josh isn't here today? We're not ready.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I have not.

[Jason Moore]

We're not ready to forgive him. He's certainly not on vacation with his family. Something he did. We went golfing today.

[Mike Wright]

We did.

[Jason Moore]

You got back on the course people. I don't know. I didn't open with that. You found the other half of your putter on hole nine.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Like, you pulled. He pulled it out of his bag.

[Mike Wright]

I was trying to put a club in my bag, and I was like, what is blocking this? And then I reached in and the other half of my putter was in there.

[Jason Moore]

The long half, as we call it.

[Mike Wright]

The shaft.

[Jason Moore]

The shaft of the putter. And then you left it, like, on the ground by some bird feather, so it looked like you had killed him. When we rolled up, we left it for you guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we rolled up and we were like, someone murdered a bird.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

That's what. That's.

[Jason Moore]

We wanted to believe that.

[Mike Wright]

We wanted you to see that. I murdered a bird.

[Jason Moore]

You. You had a good time.

[Mike Wright]

I had a better time adjusting expectations. Not statistically. I had a better time emotionally.

[Jason Moore]

I had fun golfing with you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's good.

[Mike Wright]

It's good.

[Jason Moore]

You know, we've had quite a few people reach out since we've started. I will say this, you know, because we're golfers now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Total golfer.

[Jason Moore]

Which, by the way, Mike came out today for the first time. And how long has it been since you golfed?

[Andy Holloway]

Pre pandemic.

[Jason Moore]

Pre pandemic. He played great. Better than all of us, or so I've been told. I was not in his foursome, but they're all bragging.

[Mike Wright]

Fortunately, I was. And he played great.

[Jason Moore]

How did you play out?

[Andy Holloway]

All right?

[Mike Wright]

I did not play well. This is what's unfortunate. Like, we had a bet last week and about me versus you, and we both played pretty poorly. And I played the same this week I did last week, but you played just much worse.

[Andy Holloway]

Terrible.

[Mike Wright]

I would have smoked you. And apparently I'm really motivated by a hundred dollar bills.

[Jason Moore]

Your whole story right there was you played equally bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

But you would have smoked him, Smoked him.

[Jason Moore]

If he had just played worse than

[Mike Wright]

you, like he did this week. Is that too much to ask?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. I don't know what it is. I don't know what we do on the golf course, but it's getting hotter in Arizona, so who knows if we'll keep doing it?

[Andy Holloway]

Get out there.

[Jason Moore]

4:00am all right, that'll do it for today's episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. We appreciate each and every one of you, the Foot clan out there from jointhefoot.com to support this podcast and keep us going. We will be back very soon. Take care.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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