Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Player Price Check + Bad Trade Offers
Release Date: June 4, 2019

Bad Trade Offers

The episode kicks off with a deep dive into handling subpar trade proposals within fantasy football leagues. Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright discuss strategies to navigate and improve the quality of trade offers you receive.

• Responding to Bad Trades:
  Andy suggests, “[...] you have to hit them back with something worse. [...] why don't we talk about something real now?” (04:57). This tactic aims to convey disapproval and prompt more thoughtful offers from league mates.

• Improving Communication:
  Jason emphasizes the importance of external communication channels, recommending tools like Marco Polo and Slack to facilitate better discussions outside the platform’s limited messaging system (06:24, 06:57). This approach can help league members negotiate more effectively and reduce the frequency of poor trade proposals.

• Rejecting Persistently Bad Offers:
  Mike shares his method of consistently rejecting bad offers, noting that perpetually declining low-quality trades prevents better deals from materializing. He humorously recounts how some members react when he finally accepts a substantial trade after a series of rejections (07:30).

Player Price Check

The hosts transition to analyzing the Average Draft Position (ADP) of various players, assessing whether they represent good value picks for the upcoming fantasy season.

LaShawn McCoy (RB, Buffalo Bills)

• Consensus ADP: 8th round (22:40)
• Discussion:
  Andy expresses skepticism about McCoy’s performance, citing his decreased usage and efficiency last season. Jason and Mike debate his potential, with Mike placing him at a much lower ADP (52) due to concerns about his workload and effectiveness (25:22, 25:36).

Vance McDonald (TE, Pittsburgh Steelers)

• Consensus ADP: 7th round (32:30)
• Discussion:
  The trio evaluates McDonald’s role, highlighting his potential to replace Jesse James. They consider his athletic profile and the Steelers' offensive dynamics, ultimately agreeing that he offers reasonable value at his current draft position (32:37, 35:52).

Dante Moncrief vs. James Washington (WR, Pittsburgh Steelers)

• Consensus ADP: 13th round (29:46)
• Discussion:
  Andy values Moncrief highly for potential breakout performances, while Jason and Mike have differing views on his consistency and role in the Steelers’ offense. Jason forecasts Moncrief as a sneaky late-round pick with upside (30:18, 31:58).

LaTavius Murray (RB, New Orleans Saints)

• Consensus ADP: 32nd round (38:16)
• Discussion:
  Andy and Jason assess Murray’s dual role as a regular RB and a potential backup if Alvin Kamara faces injuries. They agree that Murray presents significant upside, especially in goal-line opportunities, making him a valuable late-round or bench stash (38:16, 39:56).

Jarvis Landry (WR, Cleveland Browns)

• Consensus ADP: 30th round (46:01)
• Discussion:
  The hosts debate Landry’s fantasy value amid his inconsistent target distribution and the emergence of other receivers on the Browns’ roster. Andy remains cautious, preferring more reliable targets over Landry at his current ADP (46:01, 47:12).

News Impacting Player Valuations

Todd Gurley (RB, Los Angeles Rams)

• News: Rams GM Les Snead confirms Gurley will not play in the preseason, raising concerns about his future performance and workload (10:50).
• Discussion:
  Andy expresses frustration as a dynasty owner holding Gurley, questioning whether he will remain a valuable asset given the uncertainty surrounding his role and potential injuries. The hosts debate Gurley’s drop in ADP and whether he now offers good value if he remains healthy (11:22, 13:53).

Damian Williams (RB, Kansas City Chiefs)

• News: Chiefs’ offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy declares Williams as the starting RB, eliminating a committee approach (14:34).
• Discussion:
  The trio considers the implications for fantasy managers, noting Williams’ potential to be a top-tier RB if he secures consistent carries. They weigh his usage against other Chiefs running backs and the overall offensive strategy (15:41, 16:33).

Adam Humphries (WR, Jacksonville Jaguars)

• News: Humphries turns down a Patriots offer to stay with the Jaguars, citing loyalty to the Tennessee Titans (17:56).
• Discussion:
  The hosts analyze the impact of Humphries’ decision on both teams’ offensive dynamics and his fantasy value. They consider how remaining with the Jaguars could affect his role and target share, while also reflecting on the Jaguars’ wide receiver depth (17:56, 19:41).

Mailbag Highlights

The episode features listener questions addressing common fantasy dilemmas.

Slot vs. Outside Receivers

• Question: Impact of receivers moving to the slot on their fantasy performance.
• Discussion:
  The hosts agree that slot receivers typically receive more targets and are better for PPR leagues but may have lower yards per reception and touchdown opportunities. They caution against overestimating the value by comparing them to historical slot stars like Wes Welker (53:16, 55:02).

Julio Jones vs. James Conner

• Question: Should a manager keep Julio Jones or James Conner in a half-point PPR league?
• Discussion:
  Andy advocates for Julio Jones due to his consistent elite performance, while Jason and Mike consider the potential upside and positional value of Conner. They ultimately suggest choosing based on league dynamics and availability of reliable running backs (58:22, 60:01).

Roster Management Post-Rookie Draft

• Question: Best practices for managing rosters between the rookie draft and the regular season.
• Discussion:
  Andy advises making necessary roster cuts immediately after the draft to allow flexibility for trades and waiver pickups during the season. Jason and Mike support maintaining an open and active transaction period to enhance team competitiveness (55:13, 57:00).

Notable Quotes

• Andy Holloway: “You have to hit them back with something worse. That sends the message you can both offer stupid trades. Why don't we talk about something real now?” (04:57)

• Jason Moore: “Build another communication system into that.” (06:07)

• Mike Wright: “Vance McDonald becomes sensational in the target department.” (34:32)

• Andy Holloway: “James White's going to have an excellent year.” (41:00)

Conclusion

The hosts wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to engage with their community and utilize resources like the Ultimate Draft Kit, which also supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. They remind fans to check out their sponsors and upcoming live shows for additional fantasy insights and camaraderie.

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Timestamps

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