Player Price Check + We Have Liftoff! - Fantasy Football Podcast

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast: Episode Summary Title: Player Price Check + We Have Liftoff! Release Date: June 2, 2020

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1. Addressing Social Issues (00:52 - 05:11)

In a heartfelt segment, the hosts—Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright—pause their usual fantasy football discourse to acknowledge and condemn the racial injustices prevalent in the United States, particularly following the tragic death of George Floyd.

• Andy Holloway (00:52):

  "My daughter is five years old. She is black. This is not the world that I want for my daughter."

• Jason Moore (03:52):

  "Our hearts have truly been broken this last week, and they really do go out to everyone listening, everyone going through this."

• Mike Wright (04:08):

  "I need to do better, and I can do better, and we can do better."

The hosts emphasize their commitment to educating themselves and their communities, reflecting a collective responsibility beyond their podcasting roles.

2. Player Price Check Segment (06:44 - 41:07)

The core of the episode revolves around the "ADP (Average Draft Position) Price Check," where the hosts analyze various NFL players' draft values compared to their consensus rankings. Utilizing data from Best Ball tournaments, they provide insights into whether players are being drafted too high, too low, or appropriately.

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a. Michael Gallup (06:44 - 13:01)

Consensus Ranking: 26th Overall Wide Receiver
Current ADP: 33rd in the Draft (7th Round, 8th Pick)

• Andy Holloway (06:53):

  "Michael Gallup is a good option this year. Should be drafted as, you know, a high end three."

• Jason Moore (08:30):

  "Michael Gallup is a good option this year. Should be drafted as, you know, a high end three or a low end two."

Discussion Highlights:

• Gallup's performance last season showed potential with 66 receptions for 1,106 yards in 14 games.
• The drafting dynamics in Dallas, especially with CD Lamb and Amari Cooper, create a complex environment for Gallup.
• The consensus is that Gallup offers significant value at his current draft position, making him a worthwhile pick in the mid to late rounds.

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b. Rob Gronkowski (13:02 - 20:32)

Consensus Ranking: Top 10 Tight End
Current ADP: 9th Overall Tight End (8th Round)

• Jason Moore (13:36):

  "Rob Gronkowski is being drafted as a top 10 tight end, which is way too high."

• Mike Wright (16:08):

  "He's a bit too high right now. I would project him to be late five, early six."

Discussion Highlights:

• Gronkowski's recent performance and injury history raise concerns about his reliability.
• While his name carries significant value, the hosts caution against overvaluing past glory.
• The consensus leans towards drafting Gronkowski in the later rounds if at all, preferring emerging tight ends with higher upside.

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c. Tevin Coleman (23:37 - 29:38)

Consensus Ranking: 33rd Overall Running Back
Current ADP: 41st Overall (9th Round)

• Jason Moore (25:04):

  "Tevin Coleman has the opportunity and the ability and the system to perform if Shanahan chooses to make him the first of the timeshare."

• Andy Holloway (28:15):

  "Tevin Coleman could be a can start, not a must start."

Discussion Highlights:

• Coleman’s inconsistent usage in the previous season, coupled with injury concerns, affects his draft stock.
• Despite potential upside, his injury history and competition in the backfield make him a risky pick.
• The hosts agree that while Coleman might not be a top-tier RB, he can serve as a valuable late-round option for depth.

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d. Cortland Sutton (29:38 - 35:44)

Consensus Ranking: 25th Overall Wide Receiver
Current ADP: 41st Overall

• Jason Moore (31:20):

  "There's a lot of hype for a guy who is, you know, he was drafted to be a star last year. He did everything in his power to show that he is for real."

• Andy Holloway (35:11):

  "Cortland Sutton is a great wide receiver. Broke the most tackles amongst all wide receivers in football last year."

Discussion Highlights:

• Sutton’s impressive final stretch in the previous season raised expectations, but his overall consistency remains in question.
• The addition of Jerry Jeudy poses competition, further complicating Sutton's role.
• The consensus suggests that Sutton is being overvalued at his current ADP, recommending robust favorites like Calvin Ridley and DK Metcalf over him.

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e. Drew Brees (36:22 - 41:07)

Consensus Ranking: 6th Overall Quarterback
Current ADP: 10th Overall Quarterback (Middle of 9th Round)

• Jason Moore (37:00):

  "I'm all about that. If he's the 10th quarterback off the board, I'm all in."

• Mike Wright (38:33):

  "Can he sustain that touchdown rate? That’s been the problem."

Discussion Highlights:

• Despite his age, Brees’s consistent yardage makes him a valuable QB option.
• Concerns revolve around his ability to maintain his touchdown production.
• The hosts are cautiously optimistic, with Moore fully endorsing drafting Brees at his current ADP given his potential to break records.

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3. Listener Mailbag and Questions (41:07 - 50:23)

The hosts engage with listener-submitted questions, providing personalized advice and insights.

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a. Best Rookie Wide Receiver for 2020 in Half PPR Leagues

• Participant Suggestions:
  • Andy Holloway: Michael Pittman Jr.
  • Jason Moore: Jerry Jeudy
  • Mike Wright: Jalen Reagor

Jason Moore (42:24):

"I think Jerry Jeudy would be the guy I would put the highest odds on at finishing as the wide receiver one from this year's rookie class."

Discussion Highlights:

• Moore favors Jeudy for his potential high target volume and established talent.
• Holloway and Wright offer alternative recommendations based on team needs and situational advantages.

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b. Dynasty League Trade: Acquiring Saquon Barkley

• Trade Details: Giving up Derek Henry and a 1.01 pick for Saquon Barkley.

• Jason Moore (44:57):

  "I don’t think he's an idiot. I believe Saquon Barkley is worth more than Clyde Edwards-Helaire or Derek Henry individually."

• Andy Holloway (45:13):

  "I think Saquon will be relevant a lot longer than Derek Henry will be for sure."

Discussion Highlights:

• The trade is deemed fair by the hosts, recognizing Saquon’s higher ceiling and potential longevity.
• They advise considering team depth and specific needs when making such moves.

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c. Best Quarterback Scoring Format

• Isaiah's Question (46:54): "What is the best quarterback scoring format?"

• Jason Moore (47:02):

  "I prefer 6 point per passing touchdown."

• Andy Holloway (47:34):

  "You would say, fix it."

Discussion Highlights:

• The hosts advocate for awarding 6 points per passing touchdown and 1 point per 25 passing or rushing yards.
• They discuss the implications of different scoring formats on quarterback valuations and game strategies.

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d. Origin of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast

• Andy Holloway (48:37):

  "What made you guys start a podcast was a love for our league of record and a love for talking trash."

• Jason Moore (48:45):

  "I wanted to talk about fantasy football, and writing is just not my bag."

Discussion Highlights:

• The podcast originated from the desire to enhance their private league experience, allowing for more interactive and entertaining discussions.
• The hosts emphasize the fun and engaging nature of their show, built upon camaraderie and shared passion for fantasy football.

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4. Conclusion (50:23 - 51:33)

The episode wraps up with mentions of giveaways and promotions, encouraging listener engagement and participation in ongoing contests. The hosts reiterate their commitment to providing insightful and entertaining content to help listeners succeed in their fantasy leagues.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore (00:52):

  "We know that this is not okay, that what happened to George Floyd is not okay."

• Mike Wright (04:08):

  "I need to do better, and I can do better, and we can do better."

• Andy Holloway (12:01):

  "Despicable. Me Reference. Jason."

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This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast skillfully balances important societal issues with in-depth fantasy football analysis, offering listeners both empathy and expert advice to navigate their fantasy leagues effectively.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in, Andy, Mike and Jason, the Fantasy Tennessee footballers, back with you Tuesday, June 2nd. The UDK is here. Very excited about that from.

[Jason Moore]

From what I hear, the people love it.

[Andy Holloway]

You're hearing good things.

[Jason Moore]

I'm hearing good things about the ultimate draft.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Congratulations, footballers team. It's been a long, what, four or five months, as it always is, to build this thing out.

[Andy Holloway]

It feels good when people are getting access to it and enjoying it and excited to have it out there, always changing, updating. It's a fun product. And a dollar from every UDK goes to St. Jude Children's Hospital once again this year. So we've partnered with them again. Hope you're enjoying it. Ultimatedraftkid.com for that, you can find the show on Twitter ffballers. Got a good show for you today. We're doing an ADP price check. Brooks has got it all set up for us. We're going to walk through the a number of players, take our shot at where we think they're going in the draft and see if they're going too high, too low. I did want to take a brief moment, an important moment, as we come into another week of talking about sweet, sweet fantasy football, which we love. And I would love nothing more than to come in here and sell some sweet udks. And I know on this show, and we've heard from many of you, like, we pride ourselves on being that distraction and that lighter touch, that respite from what is going on in this world. But, you know, we were here talking with one another, and we feel like not acknowledging what is taking place in this world is in and of itself a bit of a statement on what's happening in this world. And so I wanted to say, just share how incredibly burdened our team is with what is transpiring in this country right now. My daughter is five years old. She is black. This is not the world that I want for my daughter. It's not the world that any of us want our children growing up in. It breaks our heart. And so what I can say is that to the thousands of black listeners and supporters of this show that are tuning into the podcast, I simply want to say this. I want you to know that we know that this is not okay, that what happened to George Floyd is not okay. And what has been happening for years is not okay. And, you know, it's important to me and to us that you hear that from us and that you know that.

[Jason Moore]

Our hearts have truly been broken this last week, and they really do go out to everyone listening, everyone going through this. You know, the three of us will never truly fully understand, but it doesn't excuse.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Ignoring problems.

[Mike Wright]

And it's like we. We have a voice. I have an online voice. And I wrote. I deleted 20 plus messages this weekend because every time I thought I knew what I needed to say, I would read back. I'd say, this is. This is garbage. Like, this is not. This doesn't work. This isn't expressing what I need to express right now, that we need to do better. I need to do better, and I can do better, and we can do better. So I'm trying to educate myself. I want my family educated. I want my friends educated. So, I mean, my wife and I spent the whole weekend crying, trying to learn. So that's the thing that I guess I just. I want to say is I can do better. I'm going to do better.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

You better check yourself before you wreck yourself.

[Mike Wright]

Seamless transition.

[Andy Holloway]

Seamless transition. Yeah. I. I posted a meme yesterday. It's not refreshing. Your NewsFeed is in 2020. You just don't know what's gonna be there next time you. Now. Yeah, we do it. We did send some people to space.

[Jason Moore]

That. Which was awesome.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The luckiest two people on the face of the earth or not on the face.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. That's pretty cool, though. That's pretty special. That was.

[Mike Wright]

That was another. I mean, that comp.

[Jason Moore]

It was.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sure it was compounded the emotions.

[Andy Holloway]

More tears were coming.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, definitely. And I. I knew what, like watching it. I was getting emotional, welling up. I know. I was also heavily impacted by feeling everything.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

All feeling everything right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. But it was. It was a very special moment. As someone who has been a space enthusiast my entire life, it was.

[Jason Moore]

It was cool as well. For family, like all these families who were actually together and able to see it together. I saw them saying it was like the most viewed NASA event in history, which is crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

That's amazing. And now they have technology to actually like great cameras and great ability to cover what's going on. It's pretty neat.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're going to take a look at some best ball adp, some players. We're going to start with Michael Gallup.

[Mike Wright]

Too low. Well, I don't even know what it is.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Right now we have him at the consensus number 32 overall wide receiver. Where do you think he is going in drafts compared to where we have him. And Michael Gallup is kind of. It's a great discussion because of what they did with CD Lamb. Knowing Amari Cooper's paid. Michael Gallup sits here as this, you know, second option. But it's complicated in Dallas.

[Mike Wright]

It is definitely complicated. But when things are complicated, I choose. I'm going to look at the facts that I know. Amari Cooper is a good wide receiver. He comes and goes sometimes. CD Lamb was drafted to be a great wide receiver. I'm projecting he's going to be a great wide receiver. Winning the first round, high draft capital.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a rookie.

[Mike Wright]

Those are projections. Yeah, but you know what? I know Michael Gallup is freaking good at football. That is. That is what I know. So that's what I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

66 for 1106 last year in 14 games on 113 targets, basically paced production.

[Mike Wright]

With Amari Cooper, who Amari Cooper is what, a second round pick?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We've been saying for quite some time, at least I have, that the drafting of CD Lamb is good for Michael Gallup's value. And this is the show where we put that to the test because he should be.

[Andy Holloway]

To be clear, you said value, not necessarily production, but value.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. You have 80 plus targets that Jason Whitten and Randall Cobb both vacated. That's plenty for CD Lamb to come in, be on the field a lot, be heavily targeted, and not even matter towards Michael Gallup's, you know, target count that he had from last year. So, yes, I think Michael Gallup is a good option this year. Should be drafted as, you know, a high end three.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

Or a low end two. You know, I've got him at 28 right now, so I think he's going well behind that.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm seeing corrections climb in here. Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yes. He's actually our consensus wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

26. Wait, what happened?

[Jason Moore]

No, let me tell you what happened to you. Let me tell you what happened. Because Brooks was trying to be sly and get past this. We pull up this dog, we're talking, you two gentlemen are talking, and I see I've got Michael Gallup at 43. I'm like, no, I do not. I pull up my rankings. I look all. I'm like, this is just flat wrong. What so. And then. But Brooks caught it on his own before I messaged him and fixed it. But still.

[Mike Wright]

So this is recent.

[Jason Moore]

Still gets caught.

[Mike Wright]

This is a recent transaction then that you have bumped him up?

[Jason Moore]

No, I didn't bump him up. This is where he was from the moment that you. I have no idea.

[Andy Holloway]

We just screwed up. The very first thing he had to do today. That's what happened. The very first thing he had to do on a Monday morning, which is really just putting in our ranking.

[Jason Moore]

And he found it and corrected it on his own before we got talked about it. Even still, we got to drive the bus over whenever we get it.

[Mike Wright]

He's just trying to submarine Michael Gallup's value so he can draft him.

[Andy Holloway]

Darn right. All right, so where is he being right now? He's being drafted in the seventh round. Eighth pick of the seventh round. Wide receiver, 33. Our consensus ranking has him at 26, which backs up your point of saying right now Michael Gallup looks like a very value relative to his draft position. Some players you can kind of see, you know the map, you know that. Yeah, his, his draft position is here now, but you kind of know where he's heading. Right. For instance, a player like CD Lamb might be drafted very, very late right now, but you can kind of foresee if something happens in training camp, preseason early buzz, those players jump up and you can expect it. I don't expect Michael Gallup's average draft position to change at all.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. I think this is exactly where he'll be drafted. There are people out there that are hopeful like us and people that are scared off by CD Lamb. So I think that. But if, if CD Lamb was not drafted, I think Michael Gallup would be. Would be being drafted in the low teens. I think he would be the new hotness and everybody would be all about Gallup.

[Mike Wright]

And I don't saying like, if you're calling for a five round plummet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't know about low teens. I mean, this was a Marty Cooper narrative. The money being paid, that's still present.

[Jason Moore]

He would be where. But you look at Calvin Ridley and the hype that he's gotten.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, it would be similar.

[Jason Moore]

I think he would be grouped with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, you're right.

[Mike Wright]

To buy. Yes. I don't know what the game. What is the game? Do we just say, yeah, that's a great adp?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I think we are highlighting the differential in our ranking and where they're going. So at least for Gallup, it represents a value relative to the average draft position.

[Jason Moore]

As the minions would say, this is illumination.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, quality.

[Andy Holloway]

Well done. Quality.

[Mike Wright]

Despicable. Me Reference. Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I do have children.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm ashamed to say I've seen none of those.

[Jason Moore]

What? I love Michael Keaton. This is insane. Those are really, really, really good.

[Mike Wright]

Are so good.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. I know they are. I've seen little bits of them. I've walked through rooms where my kids are watching them and I've laughed. Like, doesn't one of them have a guy doing, like, you know, all the Michael Jackson dance moves on a ship?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's. Yeah, that's number three.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go. So I've seen little clips of it and it looks funny. I feel like I'm out. I'm on the outside looking in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, you could. You're allowed in.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you are.

[Jason Moore]

You are invited. I'm invited to watch the movie. Just don't watch Minions.

[Andy Holloway]

Does that make me desperate?

[Jason Moore]

See, I'm thinking it's good.

[Mike Wright]

It's not a. It's not a despicable, but it's still fine.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so do we expect the draft position to change for Michael Gallup?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Are we willing to draft him where he's being drafted? Yes, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

Cited to.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be. That would be fun. All right, Rob Gronkowski. Tampa Bay tight end Rob Gronkowski.

[Mike Wright]

So weird.

[Andy Holloway]

Back with Brady now. I haven't looked at this. Where do you think Gronkowski is going right now? If I had to, I'm guessing, like top of the six round. That's my guess.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't. I don't feel confident with where, what, what rounds tight ends are cycled in, but I am very confident that Rob Garonkowski is being drafted as a top 10 tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Which is.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a fair prediction, which to me.

[Jason Moore]

Is way too high.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, do you want to take a shot before I take a look?

[Mike Wright]

He's a bit tougher. We're pulling our ADPs from the best ball tournaments that have been happening because we feel like best ball is happening. That means people are putting money onto these things. That means they're taking it very serious.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a good gauge of existing current value because like you said, it's, you know, something's on the line.

[Mike Wright]

It's not a free draft that people are going in and maybe they take.

[Jason Moore]

It around and trying different strategies and.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there's money on the line here. So I, I think it may have taken a little bit for Gronk's actual ADP to really climb up and solidify, but I tend to agree with Jason. He's going to be at one of those mid round tight ends, which is. That's high danger because those tight ends just never work out. I would Imagine he's going late five, early six is where I would project.

[Andy Holloway]

He'S going in the eighth round. But he is the tight end. Nine off the board.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

And so if the actual ADP is a little behind because of the recent signing, the buzz and the hype around Tampa, maybe that rises a little bit. Tight in nine overall, middle of the eighth round. Look, I can see why you start to get the itch, because that name, that's a big name. It's got a lot of letters. A lot of letters. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

A lot of consonants.

[Andy Holloway]

But none of us have him ranked there, right? None of them have us. Rank have him ranked as a top 10 tight end for the year, which is tough.

[Mike Wright]

And Jay, you're. You are by far the lowest on Rob Gronkowski.

[Andy Holloway]

What.

[Mike Wright]

What is your biggest red flag for drafting him?

[Jason Moore]

I think it's a combination of two things. One, it's the fact that it's been a long time since. Since Rob Garankowski was actually really good on the NFL field. Even before he retired, he was not valuable for fantasy. Now maybe he got all healed up. That's great. But you combine that with the fact that, you know, it is. It's come out that it's going to be Bruce Arian's system, but they're going to learn from. From Brady and Bruce Arian system. As we saw with O.J. howard, it just doesn't involve tight ends that much. I just think the combination of new system that doesn't focus on tight ends combined with. I think we're overhyping the name and what Gronk did five, six, seven seasons ago when he was the most dominant guy in the league.

[Mike Wright]

2017, he was the number two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, 2017 was a lot.

[Mike Wright]

Tight end in 14 games. So he was dominating.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so three years ago.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

But also he was dominating five, six, seven. I'm not saying he wasn't. But my point is I don't.

[Mike Wright]

I was still correct.

[Jason Moore]

I was still correct. I think we are drafting him based on his dominant run. That being said, I think he weaseled out pretty well. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, it's just. It's just a risk that I don't personally want to take, but I don't blame anyone for taking them there because look at the tight ends that are like. I look at my own rankings.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't make me look at them.

[Jason Moore]

I know. I look at my own rankings and I'm like, okay, who do I have at like, tight end? 10. Well, I've got TJ Hawkinson at 11, you know, who do you want? TJ Hawkinson or Gronk? I don't care between those two. If you want to, if you want to take the shot at Gronk, go for it.

[Mike Wright]

But if you don't, if you don't care, then why would you take either of them?

[Jason Moore]

Well, because you have to take a tight end eventually.

[Mike Wright]

I understand that. But if eventually is not eighth round.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, no, certainly not. I mean when I look at some of my tight ends that I've got, you know, in my tight end, in my top 10, top 12, I think those guys will be, some of those will be in the 12th, 13th round.

[Andy Holloway]

The Gronkowski pick, to me, you know, the name value, where he's going to go. It comes down to do you believe that you really have upside with Grob Gronkowski or are you drafting a better version of Kyle Rudolph? A touchdown dependent, sharing the tight end snaps situation. That's where I tend to think Gronk is now that still makes him to me a top 12 tight end, but that's not saying much for the position. And if Gronk's best days are behind him and you're drafting him without an upside and you're just hoping for a touchdown, that's just not as exciting a place to be in my opinion than going with the upside type of tight ends, the Herndon's or the Fant or Gasickies or if you can get all three of those guys later than you can get Gronkowski and they have maybe a higher ceiling at this stage in their career than Gronk has, that's where the decision comes to me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean we've, we've obviously been doing this a long, long time and, and my experience has shown me that when you combine a bunch of question marks with a really big name that I'm always going to bet on the being overhyped. Rob Gronkowski has a huge tremendous name value for fantasy players. And when all those question marks are attached to him, we haven't seen him in a while. The injuries that he had before going, the new team, the new system, he will be overdrafted.

[Andy Holloway]

Couple quick questions on Gronk before we move on. So would you take him at this spot since it's the eighth round, not the sixth like we said?

[Mike Wright]

I won't. No, I won't.

[Andy Holloway]

Neither will I. And then do you expect that draft position to change before the season very much with Gronk?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it'll go up when the casual players start drafting in August. They're going to see Gronk is back. I'm in. Gronk is back with Brady. I'm going to draft him. If so, let me put some hype.

[Andy Holloway]

Videos out there of Gronk and Brady.

[Jason Moore]

Certainly.

[Mike Wright]

So Jay, if Gronk in some drafts though, in some drafts I believe Gronk will be a later round tight end. If you can get him after like the 10th round, would you prefer to take the shot on him because you we have seen a ceiling from him or do you want to go with one of these up and coming tight ends who you're not sure that they can actually get that output?

[Jason Moore]

If I'm in the 10th round and the 12th round, let's say, and I can pick between all of those upside options and Gronk, I would probably go with one of the upside options. I think that the target volume for a Fant or Hawkinson has a higher opportunity.

[Mike Wright]

So ADP is just doesn't matter for you on Grom. You just don't want to draft.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And now all that changes if the Buccaneers make a move and actually trade O.J. howard, which I still think is in the cards. But you know, that's part of my Gronk stating out is the fact that there are three quality tight ends there. It's not going to just be the Gronk show.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if I mean this is just pure. It's interesting but Matthew Berry did tweet a comparison of George Kittle's rookie year and no offense rookie year. Did you guys see that?

[Mike Wright]

I did, I did.

[Andy Holloway]

George Kittle's rookie year, 43 catches on 63 targets, 515 yards, two touchdowns, 359 routes run, no offense. Rookie year, 40 catches on 63 targets, 562 yards, three touchdowns on 349 routes run. So very similar utilization amount of routes in the system. We knew FANT coming in would be a pass catching back, right? But yeah, past catching tight end. But when you look at kind of the optimism surrounding the Denver off season and the Denver offense improving, it's one of the reasons I look at Fant and say sure, you know, I'm not predicting Kittle, but it could be good.

[Mike Wright]

There's just, there's not many tight ends that can actually score a 75 yard touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

O.J. howard is one of them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, those were good days. Hey, before we move on to the other players checking their price tags, Father's day is coming up.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you're going to Talk me.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I am going to talk meat, but I'm also going to remind people that Father's Day is coming up in this world of fully blurred calendars. Yeah, Father's Day is still here somewhere.

[Andy Holloway]

It's April 43rd exactly right around the corner.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Tell me how to do this, because I'm legitimately going to order my dad this box right now.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, well, we will get to that. I just wanted to remind people. Recently, I got a giant cooler full of hamburgers from Omaha State, and it was a great moment.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a bright, bright star.

[Mike Wright]

It was. Yeah. This happened a couple weeks ago, and it was like, this is incredible.

[Jason Moore]

No joke. I was grilling, like, four or five days ago, and I had more people than I had my Omaha Steak burgers, but I had other burgers. And I'm telling you, when I put those on the grill next to each other, it's like, we're gonna need to cover these with cheese because the other ones looked.

[Andy Holloway]

So I just put this package in my shopping cart. The name of the package is dads want steak. That is.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about Tevin Coleman.

[Mike Wright]

Is that so? Like the horn.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if the song matches my enthusiasm about Tevin Coleman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think the song matches my enthusiasm for the song. You know what I mean? Like, the horns were not for Coleman. It was more for the song.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, last year, Tevin Coleman, weeks five through 12, averaged 14 rushes, three targets a game. Weeks 13 through 17, the most dirt weeks, he averaged 4.4 rushes, less than a target a game. I've listened to head coach Kyle Shanahan come out and talk about this offense. We don't have Matt Burrito in the backfield anymore. Raheem Moster, Tevin Coleman. Talking about Coleman's ADP right now, but he talks about this backfield. He doesn't care about who's physically on the field to start, quote, unquote, start the game. The starting running back, he could care less. We saw, you know, who cares?

[Mike Wright]

Kyle Shanahan.

[Jason Moore]

We do.

[Mike Wright]

We need to know these things. Get out of here with your nominal starter nonsense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So we do know that he's willing to ride the hot hand.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Raheem Moster was paid monies, dollars.

[Mike Wright]

He was.

[Andy Holloway]

He was. Yeah, he was. And they also, you know, he says he's gaining 10 pounds for more carries, maybe 200 carries.

[Mike Wright]

That's not good.

[Andy Holloway]

But Tevin Coleman is sitting here. Where do you think he is going right now? He's our consensus 33 at the running back position. We've all got him pretty similar.

[Jason Moore]

I would, I would assume that he is being drafted ahead of where we have him. I would assume he's like running back 30.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think anyone knows what to make of Tevin Coleman.

[Jason Moore]

Well, listen to this. And here's the thing. When, when we, whenever we reveal this average draft position, I'm going to say that it's okay to draft him there because you're. He's not being drafted as a top guy, but he has the opportunity and the ability and the system to perform if Shanahan chooses to make him the first of the timeshare. I mean, from weeks five through 12 last year. And keep in mind, he came out, got injured week one and got back in week five. So this isn't some arbitrary. This is starting in week five when he got back all the way until Colonel Mustard dominated and was given the reins at the end of the season. Tevin Coleman through that stretch was the running back eight. So the upside is there. I know that kind of seems crazy, but he had just a lot of consistency.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and that might make him a can start, not a must start.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. I think that's what Coleman is. Coleman is definitely a start. He's a can start.

[Andy Holloway]

Now to be clear that Moster money was. It was last spring that he got paid. It was a three year contract last spring, not new money, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

But he's under contract, showed up at the end of the season. Coleman right now is going further than where we have him ranked.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going in the ninth round. The running back like I said no.

[Mike Wright]

One knows what to do.

[Andy Holloway]

They're running back 41. But. But is that a. Is that a signal of sorts to the external confidence in Mostert?

[Mike Wright]

I think it's. Yeah, you could look at it that way. That is confidence in Mostert. And it's also looking at the final. How many eight games or so of the. Of the season for Tevin Coleman. I know he had the playoff game where he came out and he crushed out of nowhere, but besides that, it was really, really bad. It was. Everything was going there.

[Andy Holloway]

Is the injury history with Coleman, too?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, sure. So.

[Andy Holloway]

And we saw it at the beginning of last year. I think he missed.

[Mike Wright]

Raheem Mostert also has some injury history.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Raheem Mostert. I mean, there's a reason he's putting more pounds on his body because he's worried about.

[Mike Wright]

He's got those Omaha steaks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I just, I just.

[Andy Holloway]

You can. You can strap those on his pads.

[Mike Wright]

I am also adding 10 pounds. Getting ready to watch football.

[Jason Moore]

Right. I don't want to be injured this year.

[Andy Holloway]

You've got to protect yourself.

[Jason Moore]

Putting on mass.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So I just pulled up the adp. Now that we have had it revealed and listen to this four pack of running backs that are going. Running backs 40 through 43. It's Tariq Cohen, Philip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman and Matt Burrita. Now only one of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike's face went all.

[Jason Moore]

One of those guys has. Adam has the chance to be the starter week one. Right. I mean, nobody else in that group could actually be the starter week one. And only one of those guys is on a prolific rushing offense. So to me, this is. I look at Tevin Coleman like a guy I don't want this year but for where he's going.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, let me ask you, do you want him there? Do you want him in the ninth round?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I do.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would.

[Jason Moore]

And Andy does not.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm thinking. You're thinking. I think I would. I mean, look. Yeah. Ninth round, you take your shot at having a running back that matters. It's not fun to try to find ones that matter when you. When you're on the waiver wide.

[Jason Moore]

Well, here. So let me read running backs behind him and you guys chime in when you say that's the guy I would rather have as my late round running back.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Matt Breida. Latavius Murray. Darrell Henderson. I'm sorry. Darnell Anderson.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Either. Both names. No.

[Jason Moore]

Alexander Madison.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Tony Pollard.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Duke Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Boston Scott. Devonta Freeman. Justin Jackson. You see the Point.

[Andy Holloway]

Murray's the only one that you look at and you say, you know he's going to have carries in a good offense and he's a similar situation.

[Jason Moore]

Great upside. That's a handcuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. But I mean we know what Tevin Coleman has been and will be. He's not going to be a top 12 running back. Not over the course of the year. It's not going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

But he could be on a week to week basis if you catch the right week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And my point is that he could be the week one lead starter.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Which Murray won't be.

[Jason Moore]

There's no one else. He is the last potential week one starter according to fantasy adp.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

So I'm in.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Let's talk about Cortland Sutton. He's Our consensus number 25 overall wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I can guarantee he's being overdrafted where we have him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Last year he finished at wide receiver 1916 games, 72 for 1106. We know, we've seen the highlights. Very bad end of the year.

[Mike Wright]

A beast.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the things that that happened in Denver, once Sutton got going, his teams realized they didn't have to guard anybody but Cortland Sutton. It's one of the reasons I think Fant had some decent games at the very end of the year is Sutton was getting shut down.

[Mike Wright]

But teams can't do that this year.

[Andy Holloway]

That's kind of where I'm going. I'm going with the fact that the drafting of Jerry Judy is pretty important to the success of Cortland Sutton. Perhaps in the same way that you need a healthy Deontay Johnson evolution for juju to be relevant, you know, you need more than one guy so that you can't be shut down. And the only focus in an offense. We've got him at 25. Where do you think he's going?

[Jason Moore]

He's probably near a top 15 wide receiver. There's a lot of hype for a guy who is, you know, he was drafted to be a star last year. He did everything in his power to show that he, he is for real. And I believe he is absolutely for real. Like you don't make some of those highlight catches. However, there are so many question marks. There's a reason that I've got him down in my 20s, but I think that the. Usually when there is a medium breakout on a wide receiver, that of a young one, the next year his ADP is, you've got to, you've got to buy in and go all in to get him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's a 501. So he's the wide receiver. 17 off the board, so well above where our consensus has him, probably. I like the phrasing that you just brought up, Jason, which was medium breakout. He had kind of a medium breakout, which is the kind of breakout you have on a team that's not necessarily fun to watch.

[Jason Moore]

This starts with Joe Flacco.

[Andy Holloway]

That starts with Joe Flacco, exactly. Talent is there, for sure. Variables are there in the consistent play of Drew Locke, in the way that the end of the year functioned for Sutton and him existing as that wide receiver one with Jerry Judy and company. I think this team will run the football quite a bit. Do you? Since we have him below there. Are you going to spend the first pick of the fifth round on Cortland Sutton? Are you going to look elsewhere?

[Mike Wright]

I probably am not. I feel like my ranking is too low for Cortland Sutton. Just in. Given the range of outcomes, given that he was a 1100 yard receiver last year, it's just very difficult to buy into Drew Locke production. I mean, Drew Locke is surrounded by weapons, but Drew Locke's product. He was 4 and 1 as a quarterback. He won four out of the five games that he started.

[Jason Moore]

He must be great.

[Mike Wright]

And he failed to break 200 yards in three of those games.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not a lot.

[Mike Wright]

One of those games was 208 yards.

[Jason Moore]

He broke it, though.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. His big game was against Houston. 309 and 3, which at that point, Houston was just hemorrhaging points to the quarterback position.

[Jason Moore]

But we have a problem. Yeah, you're on fire. I'm just here for the quick, witty comments. That's it.

[Mike Wright]

No one saw that coming. Yeah, but that's what I mean. Like 200 yards, that seemed to be his baseline. Can that. Can that really improve over the course of the season?

[Jason Moore]

It can certainly improve.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I know it can improve because 200 yards is really low.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, but obviously will it. He had five starts, you know, and those are his first five starts in his career. So, you know, you usually look at any rookie going into his second year at quarterback saying things are going to get better, not worse, as the game slows down for.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, for Baker.

[Jason Moore]

Right. But it doesn't always happen. Drew Locke is the reason I've got Cortland Sutton low. Because while I do think 17.

[Andy Holloway]

17 is too high. It's too high.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. It is too high. That's not to say he can't beat it. But now Noah Fant is Coming into his second year, they draft Jerry Judy, you have a giant question mark of the backfield.

[Andy Holloway]

You've got. You've got other weapons there.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you look at Cortland Sutton, had six games last year where, you know, he was outside that. That top 36 wide receiver. Four of those six came in the five starts with Drew Locke.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, don't say now.

[Jason Moore]

It's small sample. So you're. We're not going to extrapolate from a five game, but if you were to.

[Andy Holloway]

Extrapolate, that's the only set you can extrapolate from.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. The only thing we can look at is the five games that we have. But, you know, so it's. He's just. He's not guaranteed to take that next step. There's probably guys going behind him that I would prefer over him. Like a Calvin Ridley, a Robert woods.

[Mike Wright]

Play the same game. What Wide receivers are going around the area of Cortland Sutton.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so A.J. brown is the wide receiver being drafted one spot ahead of Cortland Sutton.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Appropriately.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would rather have AJ Brown, Keenan Allen right after Cortland Sutton.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

He's a. He's a. He's a tough one. Calvin Ridley and Robert woods are right.

[Andy Holloway]

After the both of whom I would much prefer over sudden.

[Jason Moore]

I would as well. Devonte Parker, DK Metcalf, Stefan Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

That's where he belongs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

In that group.

[Jason Moore]

That's the range. Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So, you know, and that means to me that guys like Ridley and Woods are going to be a better value and land on more of my teams than Sutton.

[Andy Holloway]

And again, this is a price check. It's not a talent indictment. Cortland Sutton is a great wide receiver. Broke the most tackles amongst all wide receivers in football last year.

[Mike Wright]

He's so good.

[Jason Moore]

There's. There's a good and a bad. When you see the kind of crazy highlights he had last year, it's good because it says this player can dominate, but you only get to make crazy highlights when there's bad balls being thrown your way. You know, you don't.

[Mike Wright]

And you're not open.

[Jason Moore]

Right. You're covered, and the ball is barely catchable. Then you can make a cool highlight, but that's not what you want to bank on.

[Andy Holloway]

He finished four of the last five weeks at the wide receiver position. 71st, 52nd or, I'm sorry, 56, 41st, 51st, 45th.

[Jason Moore]

And those are the.

[Andy Holloway]

That's five. Was starting five games that you can't. You can't start him.

[Mike Wright]

That's painful.

[Andy Holloway]

So that just shows you, you know, the difference between an upper echelon top tier wide receiver is what are you guaranteed to get every week. And Sutton is not in the guarantee category. That's why we have him a little lower than adp. Let's talk about Drew Brees. I think this one's fun to discuss. Drew Brees is.

[Mike Wright]

What are you cackling about over there?

[Jason Moore]

I'm just super excited.

[Mike Wright]

Another sweet movie reference.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's locked and loaded.

[Mike Wright]

Just.

[Jason Moore]

Just you wait. Just you wait.

[Mike Wright]

No, that's jumping John. I can't go to movies.

[Jason Moore]

This is not on me.

[Mike Wright]

You go check July.

[Andy Holloway]

July 3rd. I think that hits in the movie category. So then all of a sudden he's.

[Jason Moore]

Go check the film. I just said it. I look over and Andy gave me the eyes like, yeah, we were all thinking it.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, sometimes you don't say what you're thinking.

[Jason Moore]

Dude, I would be so much better off if I did not always say what I was thinking. This is a fact of life, but this is me.

[Mike Wright]

All right?

[Jason Moore]

For better or worse, this is me.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the letter your wife wrote you yesterday. Yeah, it would be better. No, we haven't at the consensus quarterback 6. Very enthusiastic about Drew Brees prospects this year. Not really thrown off by the age. I am curious where he's going in basketball leagues right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. That. That's an interesting one because best ball. You know, these, these are people primarily that are thinking their, their head is in the game. They, they follow, they track this. The age could.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to guess it's right where we have him. I'm going to guess he's going as the quarterback Six off the board. And that would be what, the eighth round? Seventh round.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm going to say quarterback eight. I think he's going a little lower. And I mean, I've got him as my quarterback 4. So I'm apparently all in on Drew Brees this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, where do you think he's going? I'm going to reveal.

[Mike Wright]

I can't disagree. I'm over here trying to figure out it. Just like he had a great year and he was averaging, you know, 271 passing yards per game. And I'm in on Drew Brees as well. I'm just trying to craft the narrative of can it not work? And it very easily could not work. It all comes down to those touchdowns where the last three years he averaged 270 yards a game, 266 yards a game, 270 yards a game. The biggest difference was in touchdowns. Can he sustain that touchdown rate?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's, he's going lower than where we have it. He's the quarterback 10 off the.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Ninth round pick middle of the ninth round, Drew Brees sitting at QB 10.

[Jason Moore]

I'm all about that.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I will, I will take.

[Jason Moore]

That if I can grab my quarterback four as the quarterback ten off the board. A guy who I think is going to actively be trying to break records this season. A guy who has his best wide receiving core now that they've added Emmanuel Sanders and Jared Cook, you know, is fully integrated, of course, can't guard. Mike is always there. I, you know, this is the opportunity for Drew Brees to go out on a super high note. Is there and if he's the 10th quarterback off the board, I'm all in.

[Andy Holloway]

I think, you know, we've, we've talked a lot about the upside of Tom Brady and. But the risk, you know, and Drew Brees is in that age category where this team has the maybe unlike Tampa, this team does have the ability to take the pressure off of Drew Brees if they want to with Alvin Camara, with Latavius Murray, with what they can do in the running game and the defense and their defense. And so if the team is, if breeze is not the breeze of old, they have the ability to pivot a little bit and you know, when it ends, it ends. Not seeing it happening for Drew Brees at 41, but, you know, especially with the average depth of target and where he carves defenses up. That being said, it's still one of the risk factors for Drew Brees. You also, I think, you know, you're going to get less of the weak winning type of performances. Drew Brees, that's. And that's been the problem, but he's not going to. Lamar Jackson, Pat Mahomes, you.

[Mike Wright]

We had, I don't remember if it was last off season.

[Jason Moore]

Was that the year two years ago where he was like the quarterback 12, but every week you didn't actually want to play him.

[Mike Wright]

And then we had the giant off season of like I felt like the only Drew Brees, the only person on team Drew Brees. So this is, it's strange. It's strange that I'm like half in, half out and now Jason is fully in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean last year you saw the pendulum swing from the 18 total touchdowns from Elvin Camara on the ground to, you know, them barely running the ball into the end zone. So. But at QB10 seems pretty nice.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. With the upside.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I wouldn't draft. You know, it's like I've got Drew Brees as my quarterback four, but I'm not drafting the fourth quarterback off the board ever. So this is just where I. This is where I'm happy that he drops to 10 so that I can draft him and take that shot.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. Hey, Brooks, this is fun. Awesome. You should take some more names, and we should do this again very soon. I want to get into the mailbag now, answer some questions from the Foot clan. But, you know, other than that first one, Brooks, really good job. Really, really good job. Thank you. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag. Mail bag.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Let's answer some questions from the Foot Clan. If you have a question for us, go to the website thefantasyfootballers.com, click the submit a question button. Or you can dial the voicemail hotline. 302-464-TFFB. We do have some voicemails in there. Let's. Let's hit one. Hey, ballers, this is Paul from Northern Ireland. Just kidding. I'm actually from Chicago. My question is, of all the rookie wide receivers, which one do you think has the best year in 2020 in half PPR leagues? Thanks, guys. Keep up the great work. Half PPR, best season. I think that, I mean, you obviously can go a number of directions. I am finding myself more and more in the year one camp of Michael Pittman Jr. Ooh.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if that's the right answer, but that's my answer.

[Jason Moore]

I love Michael Pittman Jr. For value because he's not going to be the rookie wide receiver people are targeting. I tend to think Jerry Judy. You know, we talk about Cortland Sutton being a little too high. Part of the reason is Jerry Judy. He has an opportunity to come in and get 100 targets, and he has the talent, sure. To take screens to the house. The combination of, you know, this is a guy who, for years, you know, how long have I been talking about Judge Judy, Mike? In the.

[Andy Holloway]

At least eight years, even before this wide receiver came out.

[Jason Moore]

So, you know, I love the show. I think that. I think Jerry Judy would be the guy I would put the highest odds on at finishing as the wide receiver, one from this year's rookie class.

[Andy Holloway]

And for me, Jerry Judy's ADP on you, Jason, for best ball I can get it. That can be. Sometimes. That's one of the reasons why the Sutton pick is not going to happen for my team. If I think those two guys target wise are going to be similar and one of them's like right, well let.

[Jason Moore]

Me guess, he's the wide receiver 41. So.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well that's not as far down as I thought.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe 110th player off the board overall sandwiched between John Brown and Emmanuel Sanders. I will take the upside of Jerry Judy.

[Mike Wright]

There's I of these rookies for this year. I would go with Jalen Rager from the Philadelphia Eagles. Especially with all of this out like the Alshon talk of maybe he's not even ready to go at the beginning of the season which would thrust Jalen Rager right into the starting lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm so tired of Alshon's injuries.

[Mike Wright]

I think he's pretty tired of him too.

[Andy Holloway]

Is he though?

[Jason Moore]

I think we're going to be done talking about those injuries after this season.

[Mike Wright]

Very possible.

[Andy Holloway]

I just have like injured less fatigue with Alshon. I just. Even when he. Because what the super bowl game, you remember the shoulder injury, the super bowl game. And then you just talk about never 100%. Even when you thought he was 100%. He wasn't 100%. He's never quite. You can never have any confidence even going back to Chicago anyway. Sorry. All right, moving on. Let's do another voicemail. Hey, name's Brandon from Kentucky. I made a trade in my dynasty league for Saquon Barkley. I gave up Derek Henry and 1.01 in rookie draft. All I want to know is am I an idiot? I don't, I don't know if we will will label you as such.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't think it's an idiotic move. I believe Saquon Barkley is worth more than Clyde Edwards, Hilaire or Derek Henry individually. So in your single roster spot, you're going to get more points.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Saquon will be relevant a lot longer than Derek Henry will be for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Derek Henry's getting up there in age and who knows, you know he's not under a long term contract as of yet. Right. I would probably rather have the combo of Henry and Clyde Edwards allaire.

[Andy Holloway]

This is what you have to do to get Saquon.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. You got to pay up if you're.

[Andy Holloway]

Going to get him from. In a dice league from the owner of Saquon. This is pretty much the kind of offer you have to make.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would go with the combo.

[Jason Moore]

Though, but I don't, I don't think he's an idiot. I don't think this is a You know, sometimes we get trades. I think we had one on the footcast the other day that we. We graded, unfortunately, like a D minus. I think you gave it an F plus.

[Mike Wright]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

This is not one of those.

[Andy Holloway]

Do they fire teachers instantly for the F plus? If they throw that on somebody's.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, what a brutal. If they put the plus. The plus on the F like you did. Terrible.

[Mike Wright]

You guys are. You're missing the reference.

[Jason Moore]

I am.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Mike Wright]

F plus. Click. Moving on.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we'll let the foot clan. Who knows what Mike's.

[Mike Wright]

I'm very than you, Jason, by the way.

[Andy Holloway]

I actually, if I have a team that has some depth at running back, I do this deal, I make this trade, I try to get Saquon.

[Mike Wright]

Gotcha.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what it comes down to. To me. If you, if you needed more depth at running back, then it's, you know, the inverse.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, it's tenacious D. I had to look it up. I have to admit the truth, and I am disappointed in myself.

[Andy Holloway]

Any of the producers know the reference when it happened? Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Jeremy knows it for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Al Borland threw his hand up.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. I'm sorry, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

It's. Look, that's not a me problem. That's a you problem.

[Jason Moore]

I have let a lot of people down here today.

[Andy Holloway]

Instagram question. It's simple. It's from Isaiah. What is the best quarterback scoring format?

[Jason Moore]

I prefer 6 point per passing touchdown. If I could, of course, I would love to have the rushing yardage for quarterbacks be the same as their passing yardage. We are in the minority there. But, you know, that's how I see it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I like the six point for the, for the quarterback. But the question is, Jason, is it 25 yards per one point for passing yards?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And 25 rushing yards per one point?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, yes, that's. That's. And the nice thing is nobody agrees with us, Mike. But, you know, put it this way, mobile quarterbacks, rushing quarterbacks are known widely in the fantasy community as the cheat code. Right, Right. What does that say? Like, if it's a cheat code, if it's a cheat. That means, like, this is kind of broken. Exploit it. Now. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about cheating to win when it's legal here. You know what I mean? Like, find the system. I had the game Shark. I had the game Genie. I am all about that life. So take advantage of it for sure. However you can fix broken things too. That's, you know. You know, when it was standard scoring and you didn't have full ppr. We fixed it. Right. So that's what I would say.

[Andy Holloway]

You would say, fix it.

[Jason Moore]

Fix it. Step one, identify the problem.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's go to this Instagram question here. What made you guys start a podcast?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, simple. Well, I had so many things to say.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what made you guys start the podcast was a love for our league of record.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And a love for talking trash and a love for hearing your own voices. And I'm just talking to you two because you guys started the original podcast just for our league, for the 12 people in the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we carved you out of that one, Jay, because we wanted you to be more of the subject matter of the podcast. We wanted to be able to talk about what you were doing wrong.

[Jason Moore]

I wanted to be the subject matter of that podcast. I would make trades and be so upset if I didn't get the Tradeosaurus Rex on the podcast that week. I'd be like, my trade was awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you got it. I mean, I've. Since we've had this podcast going for the last, you know, five plus years, I've heard from several Foot Clan members that have done that, have spun up a. Once a week, maybe it's in season. It's once a week, you do a little show or a podcast or a video show. And, you know, it's a fun. It's a fun way to make the league interactive and enjoyable and something to look forward to and give stupid awards away to each other and insult people and then, you know, watch the season take place and be super wrong about what you said. And.

[Mike Wright]

And I wanted to talk about fantasy football, and writing is just not my bag.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

It's much easier to just talk about it.

[Andy Holloway]

We do have a new giveaway right now. We are giving away a signed devonte Adams jersey.

[Jason Moore]

That's hot. That's a beast.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. The jersey it's signed does not come with the 10 to 12 touchdowns he's likely to accumulate this year, but you.

[Mike Wright]

Can wear it when he scores touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And it comes with a swag pack as well. It's a free giveaway. Foot clangiveaway.com youm can go and enter Devonte Adams signed jersey, though. That's a good one. It's one of our best. I know. Al Borland. Stay away. Just steer clear there, cheesehead. All right?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, sir.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And we want to thank Pristine Auction for sponsoring the show. A Michael Gallup signed jersey on or a signed mini helmet just sold for $73.71 at pristineauction.com hundreds of daily auctions. Use our code ballers to get a $10 credit. So that's gonna do it for us. We'll be back on Thursday. Enjoy your ultimate draft kit. Please send Bugs Brooks's Way, Not Our.

[Mike Wright]

Way and Spiders to Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no Goodbye. You will be muted. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter. You will be.

[Mike Wright]

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