Pump the Brakes, Playoff Q's + Breaking Wentz News

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - "Pump the Brakes, Playoff Q's + Breaking Wentz News"

Release Date: December 12, 2018

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Introduction

In this episode of The Fantasy Footballers podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve into critical fantasy football strategies as the playoffs approach. The discussion is rich with expert analysis, player evaluations, and listener interactions, providing invaluable insights for fantasy managers striving to secure playoff victories.

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Pump the Brakes: Key Player Evaluations

Derek Henry: Andy Holloway initiates the "Pump the Brakes" segment by scrutinizing Derrick Henry's recent performance. After 16 consecutive games with underwhelming rushing yards, Henry delivers an exceptional game with 217 rushing yards and 4 touchdowns.

• Andy Holloway (06:07): "Derek Henry is not going to do this unless he has found a very, very special illegal substance."

Holloway suggests that such a performance is atypical for Henry and advises caution, although recognizing his potential to rebound with touchdowns.

Kenyon Drake: Jason Moore shifts focus to Kenyon Drake, highlighting his inconsistency due to injuries and limited usage by the Miami Dolphins. Despite Drake’s talent, his fluctuating carry counts (ranging from 5 to 20) make him a high-risk, high-reward option.

• Jason Moore (07:05): "I just don't see a world where he has more than 60 yards."

Moore advises favoring more reliable players over Drake in playoff settings to avoid unnecessary risks.

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News and Updates

Melvin Gordon Injury Update: A significant portion of the episode centers on Melvin Gordon's injury status. Gordon has limited practice participation, raising questions about his availability for the upcoming game.

• Andy Holloway (11:08): "Melvin Gordon says he is feeling much better and expects to be a game-time call on Thursday night."

Impact on Justin Jackson: Jason Moore discusses the dilemma fantasy managers face regarding Justin Jackson's lineup placement if Gordon returns.

• Jason Moore (12:02): "If Melvin Gordon is active, Justin Jackson should not be. And I don't believe Austin Eckler is going to play this week."

Moore concludes that Gordon should be prioritized over Jackson, given the uncertainty surrounding Jackson’s production and availability.

C.J. Anderson Waived by Raiders: The waiver of C.J. Anderson by the Raiders is covered, noting his pursuit of career longevity amid dwindling opportunities.

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Vikings Offensive Coordinator Firing

The hosts express confusion over the Minnesota Vikings' decision to fire offensive coordinator John DeFilippo mid-season. Despite significant investments in players like Kirk Cousins, Dalvin Cook, and Stefan Diggs, the team’s performance has been disappointing.

• Andy Holloway (17:03): "It doesn't make any sense. You don't give a head coaching job to a guy that was just fired midway through the season last year."

Both hosts agree that this move destabilizes the team’s offensive strategy, raising concerns for fantasy managers relying on Vikings' offensive players.

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Mailbag: Listener Questions and Advice

Adrian Peterson as a Startable Play: Listener Stephen from Severna Park, Maryland, inquires about Adrian Peterson's viability in fantasy lineups.

• Jason Moore (28:26): "I think Adrian Peterson is a guy that you're going to have a really hard time."

Both hosts recommend benching Peterson in favor of more reliable options like Derek Henry, emphasizing the diminishing returns from Peterson’s limited usage.

Trusting James Conner: Brian Wentworth asks if James Conner can be trusted if he’s active.

• Jason Moore (30:31): "I would play James Conner if he's active."

Hosts advocate for playing Conner over less dependable backs like Gus Edwards, given the reliance on Conner’s performance if he’s available.

Hanging Out with NFL Players: A fun segment where listeners ask which NFL player the hosts would like to hang out with. Andy opts for J.J. Watt, while Jason prefers George Kittle for his fantasy insights.

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Thursday Night Preview: Tyreek Hill vs. Travis Kelce

The hosts analyze the Thursday night matchup featuring Tyreek Hill against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Tyreek Hill’s Performance: Andy Holloway praises Hill’s performance despite his team struggling.

• Andy Holloway (45:26): "Tyreek Hill is a much better road player than a home player."

Jason Moore is skeptical about Hill’s consistency, predicting a potential slump.

• Jason Moore (53:50): "Tyreek Kills Bump. He's never going to amount to anything. He's going to be bad this week."

Travis Kelce's Struggles: The discussion shifts to Travis Kelce’s declining performance against the Chargers, citing his lackluster recent stats.

• Andy Holloway (46:46): "Travis Kelsey's last four games against the Chargers, one catch, no touchdowns in four straight games."

Moore suggests leveraging backup players like Damian Williams if Kelce and Spencer Ware are questionable.

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Off-Season Engagement Strategies

Listener Chris Q. asks for advice to keep the league engaged during the off-season.

• Jason Moore (41:15): "Listen to the podcast. Tell your friends about this podcast."

Andy and Jason recommend maintaining communication through platforms like Facebook groups, engaging in off-season transactions, and participating in year-round discussions to sustain interest.

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Final Thoughts and Player Recommendations

Tyreek Hill vs. Mike Williams: In the final analysis, Andy advises prioritizing Mike Williams over Tyrell Williams due to potential matchup advantages against the Chargers.

• Jason Moore (53:18): "Anyone, one of those two will have a good game."

Odell Beckham Jr. Status: Andy provides an update on Beckham’s quad injury, predicting a 50-50 chance of his participation.

• Andy Holloway (49:58): "Beckham did not practice today."

Both hosts suggest monitoring the situation closely and making lineup decisions based on the latest updates.

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a recap of key insights, encouraging listeners to join the Fantasy Footballers community online for ongoing support and updates. The hosts emphasize the importance of strategic decision-making in the playoffs, urging fantasy managers to carefully evaluate player performances and injury statuses to optimize their lineups.

• Andy Holloway (55:08): "Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the critical discussions and expert advice offered by The Fantasy Footballers hosts, ensuring listeners are well-equipped to navigate their fantasy football playoffs with confidence and strategic insight.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, what's up, Andy?

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know what's cool?

[Jason Moore]

I know a lot of things cool, but tell me.

[Andy Holloway]

Winning free stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, so cool.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you like a signed Saquon Barkley jersey?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you like a signed DeAndre Hopkins jersey?

[Jason Moore]

Yup.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you like a signed Michael Thomas mini helmet?

[Jason Moore]

Heck yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You're not eligible, but the Foot Clan is. Go to footclangiveaway.com you can vote for us for a couple of awards and that'll get you entered in to our giveaway. Just about 10 days left. Footclangiveaway.com welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Jason Moore]

Coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in to another episode, the most recent one we have ever done. Wednesday, December 12, 2018, the fantasy footballers Podcast. The bear is back. Jason is here as well. It's gonna be a good, good, good show.

[Jason Moore]

I disagree. Great.

[Andy Holloway]

It's gonna be a great job.

[Jason Moore]

It's gonna be so great.

[Andy Holloway]

We have pumped the brakes on the show. All your fantasy football news, updates, information. We'll be talking Melvin Gordon. We've got the Mailbag. We'll answer your questions.

[Jason Moore]

What else we got?

[Andy Holloway]

We got Thursday night preview. Right.

[Jason Moore]

Brooks?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Chargers, Chiefs.

[Jason Moore]

I think this is going to be a fun show because this is. Look, Mailbag. This is the time of year where things both really matter and also don't matter. You know what I mean? Like for. There's two.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know what you mean.

[Jason Moore]

There's two people out there listening. There's the people in the playoff hunt. They're. They're like yourself and like myself that are. They need that advice. They need to make sure that they get the win this week. They bring home the hashtag Foot Clan titles. And then there's the people listening that, hey, they just missed. They're in it. They're sticking around for next year. But. But they're asking different types of questions.

[Andy Holloway]

They're asking like without Mike here, who's doing the mailbag drop questions like that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that is a great question. I had not considered.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, so they'll have the opportunity to find that out.

[Jason Moore]

There's just gonna be a lot of fun, is what I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

There's gonna be a lot of fun. No doubt about it.

[Jason Moore]

Unlike putting together a 12 foot Christmas tree.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's what you did last night.

[Jason Moore]

I found out. That is huge, by the way, how tall 12ft is.

[Andy Holloway]

It's your scale, your whole scale discernment. It doesn't Seem to be working. Because if you don't know this. Did we mention this on the show?

[Jason Moore]

I don't. You bought a 15 foot inflatable snowman for my front yard.

[Andy Holloway]

It looks like the puff marshmallow man is outside haunting your neighborhood.

[Jason Moore]

It could swallow my house. It is too big. It has rarely been inflated because when it's inflated, it's a danger to our entire neighborhood.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's like too much Christmas spirit. I didn't think it was possible, but you actually have too much.

[Jason Moore]

I do. I don't have a ladder tall enough to decorate this tree because the base is so far away from the tip.

[Andy Holloway]

How did you.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's not. I've got to literally go by a ladder.

[Andy Holloway]

So the top of this tree is empty.

[Jason Moore]

The top of the tree has no decorations. And in fact, not only is it not decorated, but you know how you have to like separate the branches and fluff it out?

[Andy Holloway]

It's not that either.

[Jason Moore]

No. Cause you can't reach the tree.

[Andy Holloway]

How did you even get it up there?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that was a. That was.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you do it all on the ground and then do the whole like Christmas miracle? The whole stand up thing?

[Jason Moore]

I did the. I'm on like the top rung of the ladder, grabbing the tree with one hand, kind of bending the tree towards me, leaning. I'm just glad I didn't buddy the elf and have to jump on that tree.

[Andy Holloway]

So this is the new tradition is you're going to be hanging up a.

[Jason Moore]

I hate that we have this tree forever now.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's impressive. Once you see it, it dwarfs most everything I've ever seen. Well, Merry Christmas.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks. But we should pump the brakes on things over 10ft as Christmas decorations. Public service announcement.

[Andy Holloway]

That makes sense. Since that's the two decorations you have. You can follow the show at the FF Ballers on Twitter. We're on YouTube. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. Check us out on Instagram as well and join the Foot.com is our fantasy football community year round. Come hang out with us. We answer your questions on an exclusive extra weekly episode. There's a bunch of perks, giveaways, a lot of cool stuff [e-mail] for our supporters. Well, Jason mentioned it. It is Wednesday, so.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, oh, oh. O'reilly o'reilly Auto Parts.

[Andy Holloway]

Not bad, Jay.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks. I had to use my falsetto but we got there.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, how about me guys? Last time?

[Jason Moore]

Way better, actually.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna be completely honest with you, bro. It was real bad.

[Jason Moore]

No doubt. Doubt.

[Andy Holloway]

Totally you compared to last week?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you were more confident, but you were in the completely wrong range.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean you weren't down low.

[Andy Holloway]

You weren't like oh, oh, oh. That's where you needed to be. And you were more like a oh, oh, oh. You see what I'm saying?

[Jason Moore]

Look, it was terrible, but it was so much better.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

So they're not mutually exclusive.

[Andy Holloway]

That's all I'm looking for.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Improvements, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

No, next week.

[Jason Moore]

Next week you might just be bad and incredibly better.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure, sure. He's working his way.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. My pump the brakes this week. It's going to be the man we talked about yesterday. Maybe he's the low hanging fruit. I don't care. Derek Henry had himself a game of games or in his case a season of seasons, because it had been 16 consecutive games for Derek Henry in which he was at the 58 total yard mark or, or lower in terms of rushing performance and then goes out and throws up 217 and 4. Derek Henry is not going to do this unless he has found a very, very special illegal substance. I don't think this is the norm for Mr. Derek Henry. The Jacksonville Jaguars quit on that game nice and early. A 99 yard touchdown is not, you know that, that helps the equation. And the week before, 10 for 48 for 39 for 46, he could still.

[Jason Moore]

Fall into another touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, he always can. He always can. He had, he has nine on the season and if you take away the four, he still had five. So, so I mean he, and he had scored five times in the previous. What is that, six games?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean he so a touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Pumping the brakes on 17 for 238 and 4 and bringing that down.

[Jason Moore]

So what is your expectation then? For sure, Henry? What would you give me a line? What do you expect? Derek Henry carries, yards, point, touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean your best case scenario in my opinion is 11 for 55 and.

[Jason Moore]

111 for how much? 55 that was. Brooks is a gift. My pump the brakes this week is Kenyon Drake. Look, I love Kenyan Drake. He's talented. He's Kenya great. He's one of my favorite players since he came out of college. He should be getting the ball 15 to 20 times a game and dominating for fantasy football and for the Miami Dolphins. But he's not. In fact, if you look at his last three games, he had eight carries, seven carries, six carries. What's next?

[Andy Holloway]

Five carries, a whole 12 days of Christmas thing.

[Jason Moore]

And you know, look, I realized he had A great fantasy week last week, right? You look at the final box score and you go, he had, you know, a catch for 55 yards and a touchdown. Another. Oh, but the reality is he had the crazy once in a lifetime miracle play at the end of a game to save a performance. And really, his last few weeks, he's been getting a touch. I mean, he has two touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

He's found a way.

[Jason Moore]

He's found a way to score two touchdowns three weeks ago. Touchdown last week, a touchdown the week in between. So you're starting to get confident in Kenyon Drake. Then you have the matchup against Minnesota in Minnesota, and you go, well, goodness, Seattle just ran all over Minnesota. And maybe I can play Kenyan Drake this week. I'm not as confident as your. Maybe I would prefer to bench Kenyon Drake. I think going on the road when he's not getting the volume against a very good rush defense, you're going to have to have that touchdown to be happy. I just don't see a world where he has more than 60 yards. So you're always high risk. Yeah. And I've said before, you've got to start his good, his bad to get as good in the playoffs. Right now, I. In this matchup, I don't want to take that risk.

[Andy Holloway]

And that.

[Jason Moore]

That play was his only target in the whole game, too. Right. So essentially, he was what, six carries for a couple of yards, no targets. He was not really that.

[Andy Holloway]

I will not call that a target either.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's true.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So really, zero targets.

[Jason Moore]

Here's.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the thing, though. I know that as a fantasy football fan and a Kenyon Drake fan, you are embittered by Mr. B. Hole's decisions regarding the workload for Kenyon Drake.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

But Kenyon Drake, last year, multiple injury reports, knee strains, hamstring strains.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, since college.

[Andy Holloway]

This year, shoulder injuries. If they give him the work you want him to have, he'll probably not play football.

[Jason Moore]

That is 100% fair. It's actually worth bringing up in the pump the brakes concept here that he is dealing with a shoulder injury that every game he has continued to re aggravate.

[Andy Holloway]

You could argue Adam Gase is pumping the brakes on him all year long.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and specifically with regards to the shoulder injury, he's saying, man, I don't want to use him too much. And so, yeah, five carries, that's the thing. Five carries is a legitimately realistic outcome for Kenyon Drake in this game. How could you start a guy that could realistically have five Carries, nothing else. You just, that's not enough involvement.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then a bad defense. So.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Kenyan Drake or Derek Henry?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gosh, I'm going Derek Henry for sure. Derek Henry will have more carries, a better matchup. I'm not telling people Derek Henry is a must start. But yeah, I mean, they're not that close in my rankings, to be honest. I think they're about 10 spots apart. I've got Kenyon Drake down outside. He's basically a running back. 3.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, you're not a, you're not a fan this week.

[Jason Moore]

It pains me. News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, that was pump the brakes with O'Reilly Auto Parts. Better parts, better prices every day. Here's some news for you. This is the big one. We may talk about this for a while. Melvin Gordon says he is feeling, quote, much better and expects to be a game time call on Thursday night. He practiced. Was it limited yesterday?

[Jason Moore]

Brooks?

[Andy Holloway]

Wasn't that the designation? Yeah. Look, this is the big playoff decision for tons of people. You know, if Melvin Gordon is active, if he's inactive, how do you feel about him? Does Justin Jackson, you know, if you're expecting the ability to play Justin Jackson, then Melvin Gordon is made active. Do you bench Justin Jackson immediately? Do you put Gordon in immediately? What is your thought process here and how do people go about the Melvin Gordon conundrum Now? We're mercifully, yeah, it's, it's Thursday night.

[Jason Moore]

That's great news for fantasy owners. You don't have to, you don't have to make Thursday night decisions based on not knowing what's going to happen with Melvin Gordon on Sunday or worst case on Monday. So you, you get a heads up into what your week's going to be like. But if Melvin Gordon is active, Justin Jackson should not be. And I, and I understand Austin Eckler has had plenty of value behind Melvin Gordon in the games where Melvin Gordon has played. Austin Eckler is not going to play this week. I don't believe it's been officially ruled out, but he's not playing.

[Andy Holloway]

Extremely doubtful.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I believe he is also in concussion protocol on a Thursday night game. It's just he's not clearing. So it's going to be either the Justin Jackson show or Melvin Gordon with Justin Jackson. I think in a pinch you could put Justin Jackson in the lineup because maybe Melvin Gordon re aggravates, gets injured, leaves or Justin Jackson has a good game while Gordon is in there. But I am not, I am not going to imbue what Austin Eckler was doing to Justin Jackson in that backup role. It is rare for a backup to be as good as Echler has been in games where the starter is active. And I'm not going to just take my guess that Justin Jackson can play that role.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you can't. You can't do that. You can't. You know, he's proven nothing. Justin Jackson has proven nothing in his career. Austin Eckler has played a complimentary role to great success. There's a big difference. I'm with you on that. And Melvin Gordon, for what it's worth, every time that he's been in this kind of a situation for fantasy owners, he's gotten you what you needed. Like if you, if you were worried about him a few weeks ago, even the game he got injured.

[Jason Moore]

So let me ask.

[Andy Holloway]

He had a monster touchdown before he was injured on a game he was coming back.

[Jason Moore]

Let me ask this. This is the follow up, right? Melvin Gordon is active, let's say hypothetically speaking, but you have other decent options. Do you know you still have to worry about the re aggravation on play two for Melvin Gordon, dealing with, you know, a bum knee. Would you play Melvin Gordon over Chris Carson? Yes, I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Not really.

[Jason Moore]

I would play Chris Carson over Melvin Gordon because I think Chris Carson is a great play. How about Sony Michelle?

[Andy Holloway]

I'll play Melvin Gordon. Let's. Let's do it this way. I will play Melvin Gordon over every single player outside of Gurley, Barkley, McCaffrey, Lindsey Camara, Elliott.

[Jason Moore]

So Leonard.

[Andy Holloway]

So he would be my number seven overall.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Over Leonard Fournette.

[Jason Moore]

Did I say Lindsey Fournette?

[Andy Holloway]

No, you didn't.

[Jason Moore]

That's good. All right, I think that's enough. Melvin Gordon.

[Andy Holloway]

So, yeah, I'd play him under. It's the playoffs. You want to lose with Melvin Gordon on your bench?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't want to lose with Melvin Gordon in my lineup either.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. All right. Mike Tomlin left the door open for James Conner to play this week.

[Jason Moore]

Of course he did.

[Andy Holloway]

James Conner's ankle is probably going to close the door, but we'll find out. Raiders have waived C.J. anderson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness. He's going for a record.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, C.J. anderson is.

[Jason Moore]

How many weeks are left in the season? Three. So two. There he goes to the 20. Tugboat into the 21, 22. Yeah. C.J.

[Andy Holloway]

His career is.

[Jason Moore]

There's two weeks left of fantasy football. Shame on you. If you play your championship in week 17. Three weeks left NFL football which I believe means he can sign for probably four more teams before the end of regular season and who knows, including playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

See, I thought you were going with there's a couple weeks left in the regular season and then also there's a couple weeks left in his playing days.

[Jason Moore]

I hope not for my dynasty team. Eagles have placed who thought Frank Gore would outlast C.J. anderson last season.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. He's infinite. He's all.

[Jason Moore]

Gore is all. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Eagles have placed Corey Clement on IR and signed Boston Scott.

[Jason Moore]

That's actually a really good signing. Boston Scott's comp to me was like a Darren Sprouls type and maybe a long term, I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to keep my dynasty glance.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, Mike will be returning to the Footballers Fold on Sunday morning for the live stream. So he's with some family this week doing family things and then he will return on Thursday in full force. I have no doubt he's been drinking beard tonics.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's got to grow the beard out. But unfortunately the beard tonics are hair tonics that make all your hair grow. So he's going to need to wear hats again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's going to be gross. Isaiah Crowell spotted in a walking boot. Elijah McGuire is very, very interesting and sneaky this week. Yeah, but he also didn't practice.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say Crowell didn't practice. McGuire didn't practice. Cannon didn't practice. No running backs practiced. So look for CJ Anderson to sign soon.

[Andy Holloway]

It would have been nice if the jets took the day off. No practice.

[Jason Moore]

This is unbelievable.

[Andy Holloway]

Monstrous news.

[Jason Moore]

Just crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

The Vikings fired their offensive coordinator up and coming.

[Jason Moore]

They're probably one of the most talked about guys for a head coaching job next season. The whole year has been John DeFilippo. He was in consideration for potential head coach jobs last year, but he needed to step up after his Philadelphia days. Goes to the Vikings in what was assumed to be a one year pit stop before his first head coaching gig.

[Andy Holloway]

It didn't make any sense.

[Jason Moore]

Fired.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you don't. I don't understand anything that's going on in Minnesota. I don't.

[Jason Moore]

They have a lot of good pieces.

[Andy Holloway]

You spend $84 million on a quarterback, you bring in John DeFilippo, Adam Thielen.

[Jason Moore]

Dalvin Cook, Stefan Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and if your whole point in spending that money is to give Kirk Cousins the ability in a spread type of office to succeed and now you want to, you know, you're hearing he wants to run the football.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And Mike Zimmerman. It's never a good sign when the head coach, or in Jacksonville's case, Tom Coughlin, the frustration gets to the point where you feel like the best option you have is to take everything over. Like the smartest people in the world that I know know how to delegate roles so that they can exceed in their own role. Mike Zimmer is not going to have more success just kicking John D. Filippo to the curb and then taking over play calling half the time and running the football with Dalvin Cook and not using. You're 84 million dollar man.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's a, it's a weird situation. I wondered like, okay, let's say you're an up and coming offensive coordinator. You want that Vikings job next year?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I probably do.

[Jason Moore]

Really? I don't know, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, yeah, people will take jobs anywhere.

[Jason Moore]

Well, because what's crazy is if he doesn't fire John DeFilippo and Filippo has a bad season, I think he still gets a head coaching job. But you don't give a head coaching job to a guy that was just fired midway through the season last year.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. But he'll be somebody's offensive coordinator, I bet.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And Philadelphia, how, what, what changes in your mind? You know, is this more optimism and hope because they've been so bad and any changes good for Kirk Cousins and.

[Jason Moore]

Dalvin Cook or is this, this late in the season? I mean, with just a couple weeks left, I don't expect much to change. The one thing that we do know is that Zimmer wants to run the ball more. So maybe Dalvin Cook get, you know, gets a slight bump in here because you assume his volume and opportunity is going to come. Latavius Murray would as well, but he's irrelevant right now as the backup. So I'm not going to change my opinion like for this current week's rankings. I'm not really changing anything from last week's rankings. The offense is not going to drastically change. It's in place. It's too late in the season to just go, okay, guys, I, I got.

[Andy Holloway]

A new playbook last week against New England. Miami only. They only gave up 2.55 per carry on 29 carries to Sony Michelle and James White and company. They were pretty stout against Buffalo, pretty stout against Indianapolis. They had been pretty bad. They're 24th on the year. But I.

[Jason Moore]

Who are you talking about?

[Andy Holloway]

The Miami Dolphins, the team that the Minnesota Vikings are playing this week.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gotcha.

[Andy Holloway]

So when you talk about Dalvin Cook projecting him the potential of a workload increase. I still like Dalvin Cook, but I mean Dalvin Cook's carries right now, 9, 10, 9, 13.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and that's why. Yeah. I mean that's why.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why he's frustrated. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Zimmer's like why are. Why do we have this superstar running back supposedly and he's getting 10 or fewer carries every game. That would be frustrating to me as well. Until you go, well, look at what happens when he gets carrying the offensive line. Can't block.

[Andy Holloway]

Who's more talented, Dalvin Cook or Kenyon Drake in your mind?

[Jason Moore]

I think Kenyon Drake is more talented but I don't think Kenyon Drake can.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not a full time.

[Jason Moore]

No. He could not withstand the volume of a bell cow running back. I mean that was the thing coming out of even college. He was Alabama. Right. I believe. And he was not a. He was never the starter. Which is rare for NFL player to just not be the starter and come in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're going to get into the mailbag. I don't know who's doing the mailbag drop.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's Jay Grizz.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, fantastic. Grizz getting it in.

[Andy Holloway]

He wanted to but I want to.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

And you don't have to pay unless you better win the auction.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Mailbag. Wow. That was actually way better than I do it. That's not even a joke.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the mailbag. Well timed, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

I wonder how he's feeling about his Bears this week.

[Jason Moore]

How are you feeling about. Let me tell you how he's feeling about his Bears because if you know a Bears fan and let's say you're friends with them on social media, you know how they're feeling.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, because they popped the collar.

[Jason Moore]

Their collar is popped. Their social media is letting everyone know that they are a Bears fan.

[Andy Holloway]

I have Aaron Rodgers at 18 this week. This is fantasy playoffs. I have him at 18. You feel like you want to play Aaron Rodgers against the Bears this week?

[Jason Moore]

I feel like I would be willing to play him. And no, I don't want to play him. I mean, there's just better. There's too many better options.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we do a Rodgers or look at some guys?

[Jason Moore]

Because we had a lot of those questions.

[Andy Holloway]

Why don't you. So here's why don't you do a Rogers or by the way, Rogers hasn't had three touchdown passes since Week 5.

[Jason Moore]

How about the same game? I think that one's the most interesting to me. Rogers or Mitchell? Trubisky. You want the home quarterback who has looked. I mean, last week he looked bad. He's coming off of a bum. It's a shoulder injury for Trubisky, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I have him at 17. I have Rogers at 18.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's why I brought it up. I've got them pretty close in my rankings as well. You'd go Trubisky, man.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I probably.

[Jason Moore]

If you had both on your roster.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd probably be dealing with who I want to lose, who I'd feel like I losing with Aaron Rodgers on my bench is mental.

[Jason Moore]

Would you go? Let's say. So this is a hypothetical world. Little crazy. You've got Aaron Rodgers, you've got Mitchell Trubisky. Do you look to the waiver wire for someone like Josh Allen? Would you play Josh Allen or Dak?

[Andy Holloway]

I would play off the waiver line. I would play both of them over Aaron Rodgers, and I'll tell you why. You would do it like, you would do it? Yes. Yes. Aaron Rodgers. You think at home against Arizona was a good matchup?

[Jason Moore]

I do.

[Andy Holloway]

233 and 1. Do you think at home against Atlanta's defense is a good, you know, without. Without Mike McCarthy weighing him down?

[Jason Moore]

That is a great, perfect matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

196 and 2. This is not. It's not going to happen. Aaron Rodgers is not going to throw now. You got to go into Chicago. Into Chicago.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it worked out well for Jared Goff, by the way. It didn't. Jared Goff played the whole game. Finished with negative fantasy points. By the way. I am lying.

[Andy Holloway]

So if Lamar Jackson starts him.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Lamar Jackson. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh Allen. Yes. Carson Wentz. Yes. Dak Prescott. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Kirk Cousins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Matt Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Matt Ryan's at home against Arizona. Yeah, I'm struggling with the Matt Ryan right now. I'm doing the Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz thing. I know a lot of people don't like Wentz, but I'm thinking you do that every weekend.

[Andy Holloway]

Dynasty.

[Jason Moore]

I do. But Wentz.

[Andy Holloway]

I guarantee you picked the wrong one.

[Jason Moore]

That's true. That is true.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fantasy football.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I had to bring Rogers up because it's just one of those weeks that's wild for deciding on quarterback. He's only number nine on the year going into Chicago. It's hands. If you need upside at all, you're not going to get it. That would be the overarching advice.

[Jason Moore]

It's just amazing that that phrase can come out. Like, if you need upside, Rodgers isn't your guy. Don't play Aaron Rodgers.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Right. That's the truth, though.

[Jason Moore]

Grody.

[Andy Holloway]

If you have a question for this podcast, go to the website the fantasy footballers.com, click the submit a question button or dial the voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB rankings are up. Start Sit Tool is up for week 15. We'll have the Thursday night preview on the show today. There's a couple of Saturday games this week. They're going to really stretch out your playoff matchup so you can, you know, figure out exactly what's going on one step at a time. Maybe more information will help you make a different start. Sit decision on Sunday morning. If you've got three games in the book can always help. Let's go ahead and jump into a voicemail question. Hi ballers, this is Stephen from Severna Park, Maryland.

[Jason Moore]

Love the show. Just wanted to ask about your outlook for Adrian Peterson. Do you think he's a startable play.

[Andy Holloway]

For the last two weeks of fancy playoffs? Thanks.

[Jason Moore]

Nope. No, I think Adrian Peterson is a guy that you're going to have a really hard time. Look, I realize Derek Henry just destroyed Jacksonville's rush defense to the tune of all of the yards and but that's the matchup this week is Jacksonville and it's in Jacksonville. So I don't think that defense is going to be rolling over Adrian Peterson. Look, the offense is just not good right now. With a third string quarterback and third string guards, it's not helpful to Adrian Peterson. Chris Thompson is back and then the week after you're on the road in Tennessee. I don't think you can play Adrian Peterson the rest of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play Derek Henry over him then?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

See, if Peterson doesn't fall into the end zone, you're going to be destroyed by him. That's probably the situation right now and the odds of him getting in there have been reduced with the quarterback and guard situation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, 100% and I realized he had a 90 yard run a couple weeks ago. Adrian Peterson can break something off, but I'm not willing to take that risk. Especially when you consider, look, two weeks ago he had nine carries. Last week he had 10 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

If the game I play Chris Thompson over him both weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Because if the game gets out of control, which you expect it to, with what's happened to the injuries to Washington, then Adrian Peterson is game scripted out. No, you can't, you can't play him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Twitter question from Chad Johnson. I don't think it's the Ocho. I don't think it's the Ocho. Could be. Can we trust James Conner if he's active? You have to. If they activate James Connor, I'm going to have enough confidence that they're going to use James Conner.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it's, it's one of those where it's going to depend on what's on your roster. But similar to the Melvin Gordon situation, you know I would play James Conner. I'm not going to play someone like a Derek Henry over James Conner, but Gus Edwards, how would you feel about that? Gus Edwards against Tampa Bay?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I play James Conner if he's active.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I probably would, too.

[Andy Holloway]

I have more confidence in Melvin Gordon coming off the injury because I've seen it before. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, trusting him. Yeah, I think you have to. He's too. He's too high a priority for your team. I can't imagine you have somebody to pivot to that is much better. I mean, would you play James Conner if he's active or. Sony, Michelle.

[Jason Moore]

I would play Connor.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, me too. Instagram, Nick Pretzel.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, sounds delicious.

[Andy Holloway]

Yo, what am I to do with the pickup of the week? Justin Jackson? Have him on Thursday. Do I wait Connor status and then play Jalen?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this is.

[Andy Holloway]

So this is a situation where they. They need to decide whether to start Justin Jackson. Let's presume Gordon's out. Or do you wait to hear about Connor and play Jalen Samuels if Connor's out?

[Jason Moore]

No, this is one where you've got to take what you know when you know it. So on Thursday, if Melvin Gordon is out, you're going to need to start Justin Jackson because you don't know what's going on with Connor versus Jalen.

[Andy Holloway]

And I think we should weigh in on what we believe about James Conner, too. Do we believe he'll actually end up active? I don't think so. Because of that, I'm putting odds at 90 10. He sits.

[Jason Moore]

And here's another. I mean, you could follow this up and say, okay, let's say we know. Let's say he's ruled out before Thursday's game. So, you know, Jalen Samuel Samuels is the. Is the, you know, the only guy there other than goal line vulturing of Steven Ridley. Who would you rather start in that situation, Justin Jackson or Jalen?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I play Justin Jackson.

[Jason Moore]

Me as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. Let's go to another voicemail. Question.

[Jason Moore]

What's up, footballers? This is Al here.

[Andy Holloway]

Just wondering who y'all think the coolest.

[Jason Moore]

Guy in the NFL is. Someone that y'all would like to hang.

[Andy Holloway]

Out with on the weekends.

[Jason Moore]

Love the show, guys. The coolest guy, someone you'd want to hang out with on the weekends from the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, J.J. watts in that category. I'd like to hang out with J.J. watts.

[Jason Moore]

Awesome. That's a great one. I wasn't thinking about him. You know who I go to is Carson Wentz. Just seems Like a. Just a cool guy that we'd have fun. He'd joke around and. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Pat Holmes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Pat.

[Andy Holloway]

How about George Kittle?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, George Kittle would be fine. He loves fantasy. He's the. He's the next.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true. He would be able. That. That's what I want. Juju. Come on.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, you'd hang out. Juju.

[Jason Moore]

Get out of here. Carson.

[Andy Holloway]

Play some Fortnite with juju.

[Jason Moore]

Seats taken. I mean, you're not allowed in the car. It's one. It's two seater and juju's riding shotgun.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's ask this question. Who do you want to hang out with more next year? Antonio Brown or juju Smith Schuster?

[Jason Moore]

Shut your stupid mouth. Shut your stupid mouth.

[Andy Holloway]

Why would I need to.

[Jason Moore]

You got a stupid mouth.

[Andy Holloway]

Why would I need to shut it? Why would I need to shut my stupid mouth?

[Jason Moore]

Shut your stupid mouth. Because I am the Antonio Brown owner in Dynasty.

[Andy Holloway]

Uh huh.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And what's the big deal? He's really good, right?

[Jason Moore]

He's the best wide receiver and there's never going to be another widers. He's going to play out with you years old. He's great. And I'm not afraid at all.

[Andy Holloway]

He's about 10 years closer to 80 than Juju is.

[Jason Moore]

Shut your stupid mouth. Next question.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks, if you're in a Dynasty league, who do you want? Right now it's juju. Okay. Definitely.

[Jason Moore]

Gosh. It was ab. Still. It is clearly juju. But that's incredible. Like if I could.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it painful?

[Jason Moore]

It is very painful. It is genuinely very painful. Painful. I hate it with everything I have.

[Andy Holloway]

If Jordan Howard and you had Antonio Brown in your Dynasty roster. Have. Have. Have.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

More of a had.

[Jason Moore]

It's like at the end of the year, at the end of the year, I feel like I would be insulting someone to say, hey, I'll give you Antonio Brown for juju.

[Andy Holloway]

It would be like, what don't I know?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And it would be like, like, you can't do it.

[Jason Moore]

But I'm gonna offer it.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't do it that way.

[Jason Moore]

I'm still gonna offer it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's not going to work and I'll get rejected.

[Jason Moore]

That's insane.

[Andy Holloway]

I know, I know.

[Jason Moore]

Star has been born.

[Andy Holloway]

Go on Facebook. Question from Mark Holman. Hey, ballers. Kenny G has not been so smooth. Can I trust him in a week? In week two of the playoffs, my only other options are Dante Pettish or Calvin Ridley. I would say yes. I would play Kenny G over both of those Players.

[Jason Moore]

I would as well.

[Andy Holloway]

He. He faced up against Patrick Peterson this past week, and it wasn't. And they didn't throw the ball because they ran the ball.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. I was just going to say it's not just Patrick Peterson. It's the fact that, I mean, look, the Lions won the game and they passed the ball four times in the second half.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They played Buffalo this week. It's going to be a little different. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I would play Kenny G over those two options.

[Andy Holloway]

Twitter from Brian Wentworth. The second, not the first. The second.

[Jason Moore]

I love the second. You don't usually see that I have a second. Usually you see the junior.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Skip the second and go to the third, do you?

[Andy Holloway]

What do you go with?

[Jason Moore]

I go. Well, the second. The second is so much better.

[Andy Holloway]

With the second is the Roman numerals.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. I, I.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't go like 2nd.

[Jason Moore]

No, no. That would be so cry. That would be shameful.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Or you put the second at the front.

[Jason Moore]

At the front? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You just say the second. Jason Moore.

[Jason Moore]

Well, then you'd have to have the word the in there, which is fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Is Tyler Boyd droppable?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, Tyler Boyd's not droppable.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not. I'll say this, he's not droppable. He's also not very exciting to me. What if you're dropping him for a Week 16 defense? Well, I mean that. Do you have another wide out to play?

[Jason Moore]

Right? Yeah, assuming he's a. I'm assuming he's a bank. And does your opponent. Look this week you've got Oakland for Tyler Boyd and the Cincinnati Bengals. I think they're actually going to be able to compete in that game. And Tyler Boyd, I mean, seven for 85 and a touchdown three weeks ago. Six for 97 two weeks ago. These are great games.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a wide receiver, too.

[Jason Moore]

And then last week, three for 52, he disappointed you. But he still had over 50 yards. He's the clear cut number one read there for O'Driscoll.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I read he has 70% of the vertical passing targets in the last two weeks. So if you. If you're getting that volume, that target share and the throws are downfield, you have to take your chances.

[Jason Moore]

Put it this way. If you drop Tyler Boyd, I am going to pick him up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, right. Right. Let's go to this question here from Instagram. Cable Hall. Oh, sorry, Caleb, not Cable Caleb.

[Jason Moore]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but you have this name very close to your family.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's My son's name, okay. My son's name is Cable.

[Jason Moore]

You spelled it Cable? Yes. Caleb spelled.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Caleb spelled Cable. Who has more value in a keeper league, Aaron Jones or Nick Chubb?

[Jason Moore]

Nick Chubb. I believe Nick Chubb has more value. Here's why. He was drafted to be the next main running back of this team by the current regime. Arrows pointing up. There's not going to be a huge changeover in Green Bay. You're going to have a different head coach. You're going to have different, you know, if they draft a running back, I'm not going to be surprised. This regime is not the one I believe responsible for Aaron Jones. That it just does not seem to me as guaranteed. That's not to say Aaron Jones isn't as good a player. Couldn't be a better fantasy option. But I would much rather have Nick Chubb in a keeper league than I would Aaron Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

You realize that Cleveland still has a chance to make the playoffs?

[Jason Moore]

I do. So does Green Bay. Identical chance. I believe they're tied in record.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think it's a little bit easier in the NFC right now. I have Green Bay with a 3% playoff chance, Cleveland under 1%. There you go. But it'll be interesting. There are a few. I mean, Denver still alive. 5% chance to make the playoffs. The Giants still alive. Yeah, not dead yet.

[Jason Moore]

What's the Giants record? Isn't it the same?

[Andy Holloway]

The same as The Giants are 5 and 8. Green Bay's 5, 7 and 1. So crazy. Green Bay could end up 8, 7 and 1. Who's the biggest disappointment in the NFL this year? Well, is it Jacksonville?

[Jason Moore]

It has to be Jacksonville because Jacksonville was like, you might want to say Green Bay or Minnesota. High expectations. Definitely disappointing. But the expectations for Jacksonville were potential super bowl. And they've gone from not like, oh, they might miss the playoffs. They've gone to, we're going for a top pick. We need to replace our quarterback that we are probably going to cut in the off season. Our man upstairs, who's not that coach, is maybe just going to take over everything because of the implosion. No, Jacksonville has to be. They won the award for biggest disappointment.

[Andy Holloway]

I figured I wanted to say this on the show at some point. Every good thing that I have ever said in any capacity about Hugh Jackson, I take back.

[Jason Moore]

God, I'm so happy. Oh, that deserves the golf. I mean, this is a celebration moment.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

The realization has come full circle.

[Andy Holloway]

He's like a plague.

[Jason Moore]

He is good at losing.

[Andy Holloway]

Like talented like that.

[Jason Moore]

Is actually like, here's on a resume. Yes, Jeff Fisher gets a lot of grief, but Jeff Fisher can go. 500.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Hugh Jackson has a special talent.

[Andy Holloway]

He has a wheelhouse, and that's to.

[Jason Moore]

Lose all around him. How have the Bengals done since bringing him?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they haven't won 04. They're not doing well.

[Jason Moore]

How have the Browns done since Hugh Jackson left?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, above 500.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they're real good.

[Andy Holloway]

It doesn't make. Doesn't make sense, but yet it's. It's starting to make sense.

[Jason Moore]

But what you have just done is a great service to our listeners to know, like, this is what you do in life. You correct your mistakes. You turn away from what is wrong to what is right. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I always tell my children, don't lean into the wrong thing you did. You need to just, you know, turn around, say you're sorry, go back, make a U turn.

[Jason Moore]

Make a U turn. It's okay. We all get things wrong. U turn and go away from.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So proud of you.

[Andy Holloway]

Hugh Jackson's terrible. This question comes in off of Instagram from Chris Q. With next season already in sight, what is one thing I can do as a commissioner to keep people interested in the league during the off season? I don't want any turnover this year. I have. I have many suggestions. What do you have, Jay?

[Jason Moore]

Listen to the podcast. This one.

[Andy Holloway]

Why?

[Jason Moore]

Tell your friends about this podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

It's legitimately a good option because we go year round. So if you want to have people thinking about fantasy football, we're already doing that for you. So they have some fun discussions.

[Jason Moore]

And if you're not aware, we, in the off season shows, they are a lot of fun. I mean, it's, you know, we can be a lot looser. It's not everything is written for us. It's not always like, okay, we got to look at this matchup and that matchup and what happened this week and that week. We get deeper on some stuff. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Strategy.

[Jason Moore]

We can dig far deeper and we get really surface on some things and just play super shallow. Super shallow. Like. Like the shallowest heart has ever been. It's. It's Scrooged before the ghosts come.

[Andy Holloway]

This is not a good sell for the offseason show.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's not.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll throw in something we always say during the season. Make sure you have elite communication.

[Jason Moore]

A Facebook group or something. Yes. Keep posting in there.

[Andy Holloway]

Super bowl, you know, free agency.

[Jason Moore]

Well.

[Andy Holloway]

And if you're a dynasty or keeper, having draft pick trading is crucial.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I love I love off season transactions. That's really. I mean, the truth is, how do I keep my league involved? You're going to have a really hard time keeping your league involved in the off season if there's nothing to do. Like what, how do you, how do you keep people involved in the Olympics? Like, only if they are an Olympic athlete are they involved in between the.

[Andy Holloway]

Four years between the Olympics, you don't have your. There's like a paper chain waiting for the next one.

[Jason Moore]

There's nothing to do.

[Andy Holloway]

Not reading up all the. So following the Olympics pods, make it.

[Jason Moore]

A keeper league, have draft pick trading, do those things. Then transactions can keep happening in the off season.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a lot of fun Instagram question, what's your best strategy to stop yourself from tinkering too much with your lineup? Which is ironic because I just.

[Jason Moore]

Camping.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll go camp, set your lineup and go camping.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's not advised because late breaking news is unheard.

[Andy Holloway]

But yeah, there's a fine, there's a fine balance between doing your due diligence, making the right decision, and then overthinking, second guessing it. Overthinking it, tweaking, adjusting. If you sign, here's a sign you're over adjusting. You sign and replace a certain position three or four times during the week. That's probably. You lose a little confidence.

[Jason Moore]

Here's a tip. Put on the screen time. If you got an iPhone, put on the screen time features and the parental features and only allow that app to be used like a good amount. Like, you get five hours a week in that app. You better use it wisely because come.

[Andy Holloway]

Sunday, if you can't do enough tweaks in five hours.

[Jason Moore]

Well, whatever the number is. And then you're always paranoid that you're gonna get there Sunday and you can't open your app to make your final transfer.

[Andy Holloway]

I told you yesterday, I've obsessed about kickers this week because I'm trying to optimize my, you know, my lineup. And I'm like, what am I doing? I'm just. Do I really know whether these five kickers are going to outperform each other?

[Jason Moore]

I want some metric. I want the, you know, next week need to, you need to let us.

[Andy Holloway]

Know, did I make the right choice?

[Jason Moore]

Well, not only did you make the right choice, but were your thoughts actually meaningful at all?

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Thursday night breakdown. Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

We'Re gonna freak out right now. Tyreek. Tyreek Hill, he practiced yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

So Andy and I, this is Foot Clan. You need to be aware of this yeah. We are diametrically opposed on Tyree Kill. Two different leagues in the league of record, Andy is playing the Pat Mahomes Tyreek Hill stack in the semifinals in the Dynasty league, I am playing against Tyreek Hill. So really, if Tyree Kill has a blow up game, Andy's in, I'm out. If he has a dud and he is going to have a hard time to be out, I'm going to have a hard time to not be in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a heck of a Thursday matchup and one that I think all actual fans of football want to see. Tyree Kill active alongside Patrick Mahomes. The no look crook.

[Jason Moore]

You know, to update update on the no look pass. We had all seen the no look pass from the back where it looks like it's a no look pass but you still don't believe it is because it was 20 yards downfield on a crossing pattern around a defender perfectly in stride. You assumed his helmet was facing this way, but his eyes were on the target. Nope. NFL films had the front camera and he literally threw a 20 yard deep crossing laser beam. Laser beam on pinpoint accuracy while looking to the other side of the field. What an idiot and a genius.

[Andy Holloway]

Crazy like a fox.

[Jason Moore]

He reminds me a lot of myself.

[Andy Holloway]

You and Patrick Mahomes, what athletic profiles and everything. Almost identical. Here's something very interesting. Now you're. You're obviously playing Travis Kelsey and I'm not. Nobody's going to say don't play Travis Kelsey. You may have the best week you've ever seen, especially if Tyreek is limited. But here's a very interesting fact pointed out by Kyle when researching this matchup. The last four games that Travis Kelsey has played against the Chargers.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Really? Do I need to hit the button?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, breaking news. I guess my decision has gotten a little bit easier. Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, dealing with a back issue, is not expected to play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's funny because I saw you didn't practice. I thought nothing of it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. Matt Ryan is going to get the start for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. Ouch. Yeah, big ouch. Not that you were excited about Jeffrey, but you can't be at all. Not that you were excited about Tate, but you can't be.

[Jason Moore]

Now you didn't know what to do with the running back game. Now you do. Benjam. Yeah, I mean, Ertz should still be okay.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a nice.

[Jason Moore]

Foles has come in and performed well, obviously as the super bowl champion. As the super bowl mvp.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But we also have seen what happens when Foles has a good season and follows it up. That's crazy in a need to start and he's. There's a reason he's back up crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the point I was about to drop on you. Travis Kelsey's last four games against the Chargers, 1 for 6, 6 for 46, 1 for 1, 1 for 8. Three of the last four games against the Chargers, one catch, no touchdowns in four straight games against the Chargers. It's a divisional matchup. They know what makes the offense tick. In Kansas City. I wouldn't be surprised that the focus is on Travis Kelsey again. Now you always play him and they've never had Patrick Mahomes for three of those four games. So it's just interesting when you see trends like that that span a four game stretch. Kelsey's amazing, but the Chargers seem to have his number.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean these teams have played each other before but it was week one. It was the opening week of the season. The Chiefs scored 38 points, the Chargers scored 28. It was, you know, it was one of those things where this was the original coming out party for Pat Mahomes as he just ripped apart the Chargers.

[Andy Holloway]

Chargers defense this year. Fourth against quarterback, seventh against wideouts. None of it matters. You're playing your Chiefs. The real question is Spencer where he did not practice on Monday or Tuesday. Where is he? Jason, he's in trouble.

[Jason Moore]

He's in trouble because he's not only dealing with that shoulder injury but also a hamstring injury. I think you have to give a legitimate look at CJ Anderson who I expect him to sign any man.

[Andy Holloway]

Stop it. No, no.

[Jason Moore]

Damian Williams. Damian Williams would be the next man up. He actually got more run than you would think last week. And while he is not talented, this Chiefs offense is extremely talented. There will be points being put up and Damian Williams will be involved. So he is, he's a must own. Like if he should be on 100% of leagues right now because there's a chance Spencer where doesn't play. If Spencer Ware doesn't play, Damian Williams to me is a top 12 option. Just. Yeah, whoever it is. If Damon Williams were to go out and Darrell Williams or Shark, Hendrick west, whoever is the primary running back behind Pat Mahomes, I'm going to put in my fantasy lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, a little update here. Beckham did not practice today. So still Monitoring Odell Beckham Jr. With the quad injury, to me it's 50, 50 right now. That's about how I feel there's a.

[Jason Moore]

Great chance he does not play. I mean, he was a, you know, a late, surprising scratch, but he's been.

[Andy Holloway]

Dealing with it since week 12. So with them still having a minor chance of making the playoffs, being at home against Tennessee, obviously better than going on the road for his chances to get out there and give it a go. But I'm not, you know, I'm not feeling super confident yet in Odell Beckham, and him not practicing does not help that Spencer Ware. If he's in there, you're playing him.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

If he's not, you probably shouldn't. Tyree Kill, Chris Conley, Kelvin Benjamin. Is Kelvin Benjamin going to be active this week?

[Jason Moore]

Kelvin Benjamin, I think he will be active. From what we've heard from the beat reporters, is that his involvement will be sparingly. Now everything goes out the window. If the Chargers, you know, are putting up 30 points and you, you know, it becomes a shootout. I could see him getting on the field more, pick him up. That's fine. Wait and see. You definitely are not starting Kelvin Benjamin in any way, shape or form right now. If Tyree Kill is out, you're not starting Kelvin Benjamin. Don't be that crazy. You're starting Chris Conley in that situation, which Tyree Kill should be fine playing. Yeah, I mean, it really is just. You play Spencer Ware. If he's out, you play Damian Williams, you play Tyreek, you play Kelsey. If Tyreek's out, you play Chris Conley. That's the chief side of the ball. The only question is, if Spencer Ware's in, would you toy with the idea of still playing Damian Williams?

[Andy Holloway]

I really wouldn't. No.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think I would either. Even though he had two touchdowns last week with Spencer Ware in the game, and he could end up all right. It's. It's very reminiscent to our conversation on Justin Jackson. If Melvin Gordon is in, with Austin Eckler out of the way, I just don't want to trust him, especially since Damian Williams stinks.

[Andy Holloway]

Philip Rivers is in there could be a great game for him. Justin Jackson, Melvin Gordon. We talked about that whole situation.

[Jason Moore]

It's what wide receivers, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Keenan Allen is a locked and loaded start, obviously, but then you decide Mike Williams, Tyrell. The snap counts made me think Tyrell would break out, but I think I'm playing Mike Williams over Tyrell right now. It seems like Rivers is gained trust. Third downs, red zone. Mike Williams would be the. Would you rather play Mike Williams or Robbie Anderson? After Robbie Anderson's nice Week, I would.

[Jason Moore]

Rather play Mike Williams in a game like this where there should be a lot of points. We remember week one, Keenan Allen, eight for 108 and a touchdown. Week one, Mike Williams had 81 yards. Sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. I was just saying the problem is, is if you play Mike Williams this week, like you might not get that choice because he could be that flex guy for Beckham or some other injury and you won't get it. You get that opportunity to wait till Sunday to figure out. So, I mean, I'm not obviously playing Mike Williams. I'm not forcing him into my lineup. But I guess between those two, you'd pick Mike Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Between Tyrell Williams and Mike Williams, yeah. Yeah, I think I would pick Mike Williams. Tyrell had the touchdown in week one. Mike Williams had the yards in week one. Someone, one of those two will have a good game. I just can't.

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you think wins this game, by the way?

[Jason Moore]

I think the Kansas City Chiefs still pull off. Pull it off.

[Andy Holloway]

You do.

[Jason Moore]

I do.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. In week one, for what it's worth, Kansas City 138, 28 Mahomes had four touchdowns. Tyree kill at 169 yards. Tyree kill seems to have Casey Hayward's number when they, when they match up. It's always been a good situation for Tyree Kill. Jason, that probably hurts you in your soul because you are hoping Tyree Kill struggles and you win in dynasty.

[Jason Moore]

Tyree Kills Bump. He's never going to amount to anything. He's going to be bad this week.

[Andy Holloway]

In fantasy football, number one quarter or wide receiver on the season, my only solace.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, shoot. Yeah. No, this game's at home, right? Yeah. Tyreek Hill is a much better road player than a home player. I don't know why, but fantasy wise, he has his big explosion. Games usually on the road like that. 7 for 169. A two touchdown game was in Los Angeles.

[Andy Holloway]

Our editor Kyle had the question, can you start one of the Willie bros? So he's now trying to name Tyrell Williams and Mike Williams the Willie Bros. I don't think you want to go there, Kyle. I don't think so.

[Jason Moore]

No, I think we're talking about the Willie bros. You know, I'm going to be honest, it gives me a little bit of the Willies.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm staying away.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's always best to get one for them, one for you in most of these situations.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Better to give and receive, but better.

[Jason Moore]

To give and receive.

[Andy Holloway]

Not bad. Hope you enjoyed the show today. We're going to get into all of the Week 15 matchup breakdowns on tomorrow's show. Again, we'll have the injury updates for Thursday and Friday and then ultimately in the live stream on Sunday morning. Make sure you're following us on YouTube. Click the bell so you're notified when we go live right before the games on Sunday morning. Mike will be live on YouTube and Twitch and Facebook and everywhere. Pretty much. Twitch, twitch, twitch. Yeah, Brooks, not bad on O'Reilly, but also not good. Gonna keep practicing. Yeah, you're fine, you're fine.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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