QB & RB Rookie Preview + Draft Capital Concerns - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/1

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: QB & RB Rookie Preview + Draft Capital Concerns | Release Date: April 1, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright delve into the intricacies of the upcoming NFL draft, focusing specifically on quarterback (QB) and running back (RB) rookies. With draft month in full swing, the trio offers comprehensive previews of the top QB and RB prospects, analyzes draft capital concerns, and provides strategic advice to help listeners dominate their fantasy leagues.

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Episode Overview

The episode kicks off with a lighthearted April Fools’ joke, setting the tone for an engaging and informative discussion. The hosts outline the episode’s primary focus: providing an overview of key QB and RB rookies to watch ahead of the draft. They emphasize that while their Dynasty podcast offers deep dives for longtime enthusiasts, this episode serves as a broad overview suitable for all fantasy managers.

Timestamp: 02:12

Andy Holloway: “Rookie previews, our chance to kind of give you an overview of the key players on offense at the key positions before the draft.”

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QB Rookie Previews

Cam Ward (Miami)

Timestamp: 26:16

Kyle Borg: “Cam Ward is projected to be the number one NFL player. His progression has been steady, showcasing good accuracy with a 67% completion rate and nine and a half yards per attempt.”

Analysis: Cam Ward stands out as the consensus top QB prospect. His ability to evade pressure and maintain pocket awareness makes him a promising candidate for long-term success in the NFL. Despite not having the rushing yardage typical of dual-threat QBs, Ward’s passing efficiency and leadership on the field position him as a valuable asset both for franchises and fantasy managers.

Shador Sanders

Timestamp: 31:36

Andy Holloway: “Shador Sanders has a 74% passer rating with 37 touchdowns and only 10 interceptions. His ability to throw to the middle and hit precise routes makes him a strong contender.”

Analysis: Shador Sanders is praised for his accuracy and decision-making under pressure. While there are concerns about his ability to maintain performance consistency, his skill set is highly desirable. The hosts express optimism that Sanders can thrive in the right NFL environment, potentially overcoming challenges related to his college offensive setup.

Jackson Dart (Ole Miss)

Timestamp: 38:51

Andy Holloway: “Jackson Dart, with a 69% completion rate and 495 rushing yards, is a prototypical NFL quarterback. His arm talent and mobility make him a top pick in our rankings.”

Analysis: Jackson Dart is lauded for his strong arm and mobility, positioning him as a versatile QB capable of making significant fantasy impacts. His collegiate performance, marked by a solid touchdown-to-interception ratio and rushing capability, makes him a desirable first-round pick.

Jalen Milroe

Timestamp: 42:11

Kyle Borg: “Jalen Milroe showed impressive ground numbers with 2,800 passing yards over two seasons. However, his completion percentage and overall consistency are areas of concern.”

Analysis: Jalen Milroe emerges as a reliable starter with a strong showing in both passing and rushing. While his production numbers are commendable, there are questions about his long-term potential and whether he can maintain high performance levels in the NFL.

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RB Rookie Previews

Ashton Genti

Timestamp: 48:11

Jason Moore: “Ashton Genti is our number one RB prospect. His ability to break tackles and his explosive running style make him a top-tier fantasy option.”

Analysis: Ashton Genti is celebrated for his formidable running style and consistent production. His collegiate performance, characterized by breaking tackles and accumulating significant rushing yards, positions him as a highly sought-after rookie RB in fantasy drafts.

Omarion Hampton

Timestamp: 54:32

Jason Moore: “Omarion Hampton is projected to be a first-round pick. His versatility as a three-down back, combined with strong pass-blocking skills, makes him an excellent fantasy asset.”

Analysis: Omarion Hampton is recognized for his dual-threat capabilities, effectively balancing rushing and receiving duties. His stature and athleticism allow him to excel in various offensive schemes, making him a valuable addition to any fantasy team.

Caleb Johnson

Timestamp: 65:00

Andy's Insight: “Caleb Johnson’s remarkable 1,700 rushing yards and 600 receiving yards in college make him a standout prospect. His ability to break tackles and maintain balance under pressure suggests he can transition successfully to the NFL.”

Analysis: Caleb Johnson is highlighted for his explosive running style and impressive collegiate statistics. His proficiency in both rushing and receiving roles enhances his value in fantasy drafts, though there are considerations regarding his explosiveness and endurance at the professional level.

Breece Hall

Timestamp: 59:27

Jason Moore: “Breece Hall's production last year, with high rushing yards and touchdowns, indicates his potential to be a dominant fantasy player. His ability to handle a heavy workload without fumbles adds to his appeal.”

Analysis: Breece Hall is depicted as a powerhouse RB with the capability to rack up significant fantasy points. His durability and consistency make him a reliable choice for managers looking to secure strong RB positions early in their drafts.

Other Notable RBs: Devin Neal, RJ Harvey, DJ Giddens

Timestamp: 72:11

Kyle Borg: “Devin Neal is an all-around RB with a robust skill set, positioning him well for the NFL. Similarly, RJ Harvey and DJ Giddens offer unique advantages that make them worthy of consideration in the mid to late rounds.”

Analysis: Beyond the top-tier recruits, Devin Neal, RJ Harvey, and DJ Giddens present themselves as versatile options with the potential to excel depending on their NFL team’s offensive schemes. Their abilities to adapt and perform in various roles make them valuable for deeper picks in fantasy drafts.

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Draft Capital Considerations

Timestamp: 08:25 - 08:43

Jason Moore: “By having the rookie draft order be the opposite of the startup draft order, you level the playing field. For instance, if you have the first pick in the veteran draft, you'll have the last pick in the rookie draft.”

Analysis: The hosts discuss the strategic importance of draft capital, emphasizing how the rookie and startup drafts can be balanced to ensure fairness. By inversing the draft order between rookie and startup drafts, managers can mitigate advantages associated with higher draft picks, promoting a more equitable distribution of talent.

Timestamp: 51:13

Jason Moore: “The depth of this RB class could affect draft capital significantly. Teams might prioritize RBs early, impacting the availability of QBs and other positions.”

Analysis: The depth of both QB and RB classes is highlighted as a critical factor influencing draft strategies. Managers must navigate a crowded field of talented rookies, making informed decisions based on team needs, player potential, and available draft capital to optimize their fantasy rosters.

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News Highlights

Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf Joining the Steelers Timestamp: 09:01 - 12:19

Jason Moore: “Aaron Rodgers following in Brett Favre’s footsteps with the Steelers is a controversial move. Pairing him with DK Metcalf creates high expectations for fantasy managers.”

Analysis: The acquisition of Aaron Rodgers by the Pittsburgh Steelers, alongside DK Metcalf, has stirred significant discussion regarding the potential impact on both real and fantasy football. While Rodgers’ veteran prowess is undeniable, the synergy between him and Metcalf remains to be seen, posing both opportunities and risks for fantasy managers.

James Cook’s Contract Extension with the Bills Timestamp: 13:28 - 15:53

Andy Holloway: “James Cook’s contract extension with the Bills is uncertain. His performance last season and his public demands for higher pay have created speculation about his future.”

Analysis: James Cook’s contract negotiations with the Buffalo Bills are a focal point, with concerns about his role and compensation. His significant fantasy output last season makes him a valuable asset, but uncertainty surrounding his contract could influence fantasy valuations and team strategies.

Brandon Ayuk’s Trade Status Timestamp: 15:53 - 16:24

Jason Moore: “Brandon Ayuk remains a trade consideration for the Lions, but his injury status complicates his fantasy valuation.”

Analysis: Brandon Ayuk’s potential trade status and injury recovery are pivotal for fantasy managers. His availability and performance upon return will determine his placement in draft strategies and overall fantasy value.

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Conclusions

The Fantasy Footballers hosts provide a thorough examination of the upcoming QB and RB rookie classes, emphasizing the importance of draft capital and strategic drafting to maximize fantasy success. They highlight top prospects like Cam Ward, Shador Sanders, Ashton Genti, and Omarion Hampton, while also considering the depth and variability of the current draft class. The discussion underscores the need for managers to stay informed, adaptable, and strategic in their draft approaches to build competitive and resilient fantasy teams.

Final Thoughts:

Jason Moore: “Every year there's usually multiple standout rookies, and this year’s class is exceptionally deep. Managers need to carefully balance their picks to navigate the crowded and talented field.”

Timestamp: 74:21

Andy Holloway: “If you want a deeper dive into these rookies, check out our Dynasty Pass and join our community for more insights and strategies.”

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Stay tuned for the next episode, where the Fantasy Footballers will cover wide receiver and tight end rookie previews, ensuring that fantasy managers are fully equipped to draft the best talent and win their leagues in style.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Foreign to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in. It's Saturday, April 1st.

[Kyle Borg]

We got him. We got him. It's not Saturday.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

That was a goof.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my gosh. Are you kidding me? Because it's April 1st.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

They were confused.

[Kyle Borg]

That was our big joke.

[Jason Moore]

You thought it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. Bunch of people just left work early.

[Kyle Borg]

What am I doing here?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, boy. Gotcha. Gotcha, everybody. It's April and that means it's draft month.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Which means this week we are doing our rookie preview for the quarterback and running back position today. And then you got Brooks.

[Kyle Borg]

Wait, Brooks probably thought he wrote Saturday in the dog.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, got you, Brooks.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah. That joke was one person.

[Jason Moore]

Gotcha, Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Then we're doing wide receiver tight end on Thursday. So rookie previews, our chance to kind of give you an overview of the key players on offense at the key positions before the draft. And, you know, if you've been listening to the Dynasty podcast and Borg and Betts and these two gentlemen here, you've gotten the opportunity to have some deep dives on those positions. So this is more of an overview for players maybe not playing Dynasty or just coming around to who's relevant for the NFL draft, we'll have a chance to weigh in And I don't know your two opinions on quite a few of these players. I know on some.

[Kyle Borg]

Sounds like someone doesn't listen to the Dynasty show.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the implication there. Yeah.

[Kyle Borg]

Because they're available.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well, you know Shared them all. If you want a deeper dive, then, because this episode, you know, we're going to.

[Andy Holloway]

We're going to cover quarterbacks. I just got to keep listening to true crime.

[Jason Moore]

So you're saying we should. Mike, we should start a true crime.

[Andy Holloway]

Podcast, then I would listen.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But yeah, this will be our overview opportunity to share our opinions on these guys quarterback running back today. And the draft will be here before you know it. So it's going to be fun, it's going to be exciting. And it's in Green Bay this year, which is pretty fun. What else do we have going on? If we have extra time, we'll jump into the mailbag. We got the UDK available for pre order at ultimate draft kit.com and gets you instant access to the Dynasty Pass. Lots of great content in there. Three releases of the Dynasty Pass pre combine. That one's done. Post combine done.

[Kyle Borg]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Third release will be Post Draft.

[Kyle Borg]

That's the. I guess the second big one. The first release is really, really fun because it's like this huge revealing of information. Like our, you know, our initial rookie ranks are there, our Dynasty Startup rankings, and now the draft is going to change a bunch of stuff. But it's like all three are very, very fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the draft changes quite a bit. I mean, you get some. There are always players that are not necessarily on everybody's big boards that have higher draft capital. You have to change your opinion pretty quickly on certain players and opportunities. Right. Part of the Dynasty Pass is the team opportunity pages. You know, there are teams looking to fill certain spots. That's how we perceive their depth charts. But there are teams that surprise you and draft players and complicated backfield or a wide receiver room. And I might not listen to the Dynasty pod, but I am on it.

[Jason Moore]

That's true this week. You will be tomorrow. Yeah. Mike and I are going to be in Chicago for the podcast Evolutions. We are the closing keynote, which should be fun. And so, Andy, you are going to share some draft tips.

[Andy Holloway]

We're also with you out of town hosting our first in studio rave.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, really?

[Andy Holloway]

Just me and the employees.

[Kyle Borg]

Wait a minute.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Doing a big. The Deucers.

[Kyle Borg]

I want to rave.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you think I'm seeing nodding over there? Big fans of the.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah, yeah. Rave music.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at that. Look at those rave moves.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. I don't think I want to be at that rave anymore after seeing Josh his head hearing music.

[Kyle Borg]

It's the rave hosted by Earth, Wind and Fire.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, well, we'll jump in Quick question of the day. It's something that gets asked almost every year for dynasty leagues. Dynasty rookie drafts. And with us talking rookies, we might as well cover it. When starting a dynasty league, do you have a rookie draft separate from the startup draft or are they combined into one?

[Kyle Borg]

Mike, so there's two answers for this. If you are brand new to dynasty, then I would suggest have your startup draft where you know all the vets and like, you feel like you could properly value those players because you're going to have information. You know, it's, it is a jump. Things are different in dynasty. You have to factor in more than just this season, of course, and then do your rookie draft, but more because when you're first getting into it, you just, you have no true way to like, how do I value rookies other than I'm just going to go look at someone's rankings who does dynasty and they can tell me how they feel. And like, no, let, let yourself do the vets, then do the rookies. If this is your, you know, like, if you're in multiple dynasty leagues, okay, put the rookies in there and then just have one gigantic draft. And then the, the, the biggest thing is if you've never done dynasty and you're fired up right now. I love it and I totally get it. I would wait until the NFL draft happens. I know it's seems like forever if you're wanting to draft right now, but if you do your dynasty startup draft, these guys are on your team maybe forever. Like that is the, like that is a potential. Like I had. I just, you know, in our dynasty league that, that's been going for a decade or so. I just traded a player who, like, like Mike Evans, Andy, a couple years ago. I think he's on your team now. But he was on my team for eight years.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Kyle Borg]

And so those are things that can happen. But the NFL real draft can destroy your dynasty startup draft, you know, just after you have that draft going. So I advise against that if you've never played.

[Jason Moore]

One of the nice things, if you do split it, because a lot of people, when they do the startups, they'll put the rookies into it. You just, you know, you draft them wherever you want. You're in the fourth round, you're deciding between a rookie or a vet and that's fine. That works. One of the things that I like though, about splitting them if you are doing a new dynasty league is it kind of levels the playing field. You're doing a snake draft. Right. And so there's random orders. And so the people who get the better picks, you know, that end up with Jamar Chase at the top of the draft kind of have an advantage disproportionately because it's a dynasty league. So what you can do is your rookie draft is going to be the exact opposite draft order of the startup draft.

[Andy Holloway]

So.

[Jason Moore]

So if you ended up getting the first pick in the dynasty startup veteran draft, then you've got the last pick in the first round of the rookie draft, and it kind of levels the playing field. So whoever gets the Jamar Chase, you know, the person who got the 12th pick gets Genty. So.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and then the only way that you can, you can kind of even that out is having them separate. Right. In that case. So. All right, we'll move into some news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Kyle Borg]

What do you got, really?

[Andy Holloway]

NFL Networks. Mike Garofalo reports. Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf had a throwing session over the weekend.

[Kyle Borg]

It's. The Rogers saga is not over.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I take a drug that wipes my brain of any Rogers information at this point?

[Kyle Borg]

You can.

[Andy Holloway]

And is it a drug he supplies?

[Kyle Borg]

It's going to take out a lot more than just Rogers.

[Andy Holloway]

I know, I know it matters if he's the starting quarterback for Pittsburgh. I mean, I just, I just am tired of the drag it out. Just, just make a decision. It really is this a guy who's at Blockbuster until well after they closed can't pick a movie. The employees want to go home.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's the, he's the guy that shows up one minute before kitchens shut down. Oh, yeah, like, hey, fire it up. I'll take the steak. Aaron Rodgers is really, truly following in the footsteps of Brett Favre because this was, this was a farve specialty forever where every off season he's retiring and then he comes out and then the whole off season is about him. He's going to end up being a Steeler. The fact that he's throwing with DK Metcalf, new Steeler. This is just George. Where's George Pickens?

[Kyle Borg]

Dynasty managers? Where's George Doghouse?

[Jason Moore]

It'll be interesting. I mean, the nice thing is the Steelers have a very good defense. They have young, elite weapons. They just traded for a veteran wide receiver. And then you add Aaron Rodgers. What could go wrong? It's almost like this exact thing happened last year where the jets great defense with Garrett Wilson and Breeze hall and then, oh, they trade for Devonte Adams and they sucked. So I'm sure this Time. It'll totally work out.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, criticism and praise are proportional to performance in sports. Aaron Rodgers had decades of praise. Now we're at the point where he is handpicking everything on the menu and failing with that. That's what happened in New York. It was. And then you missed an entire year. So you had all the expectations. You had all the. The perfect hand selected. I want my guys. You failed with those players, so it's hard. I'm going to go in expecting you to fail now. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, because you're a year older.

[Andy Holloway]

New franchise, new offensive coordinator, new players.

[Jason Moore]

It's tough because I believe in Tomlin as a. As a very, very good coach to get the most out of his players. I mean, I understand the frustration as Steelers fans because he's really hurting your franchise, keeping you good enough to always be near the playoffs or in the playoffs, but you just don't have the roster to win in the playoffs. And so you're in perpetual purgatory. But that'll be interesting. The Aaron Rodgers vs. Tomlin. Not a Steeler yet. We expect him to be at some.

[Andy Holloway]

Point since Big Ben retired. Just so you can remember, we had Mitchell Trubisky for five games. We had Kenny Pickett. We had more Kenny Pickett. We had mason Rudolph for three games. We had Trubisky with two more games in 2023. We had Fields and we had Russell Wilson. And I think you mentioned none of those were prolific statistical performances that helped a lot of fantasy players. Roger, certainly you're hoping that there's some magical resurgence.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This does feel like what the Colts went through post Andrew Luck, where. And you know, to be fair, they are still going through it where they just don't know who their quarterback is.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. AI is pretty incredible. Within about 10 seconds of me making the comment about Aaron Rodgers, I got. I'm staring at a picture of Rogers in a blockbuster that Matt sent over. Okay. Blockbusters aren't even around anymore. Did you even know that? I bet you didn't.

[Kyle Borg]

The last one closed, I think.

[Andy Holloway]

I bet they thought they did, though, that they were still around because April 1st. Got him. Got him.

[Jason Moore]

They were all.

[Andy Holloway]

They were driving down the street. This is interesting news. I actually. I'm a little worried about this. If you were a dynasty manager, I would be worried. I am a dynasty manager of James Cook. Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean told reporters he does not see them getting anything done anytime soon. With James Cook on an extension. This is how I would posture myself if I had too high of a demand from a running back.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they tried to work out an extension. He came out and said they were trying to get an extension with him and that they were. They couldn't get it done so they moved on and they went and they extended other players. That's a really bad sign for a player entering the final year of his rookie contract.

[Andy Holloway]

He's 25 and a half. He had a great season, scored a bunch of touchdowns, should be cashing in. But he also came out if you remember in the media himself instead of behind closed doors and said how what did he want? It was like 12 million. He wanted some big numbers.

[Kyle Borg]

He wants to get paid. James Cook is in a really tough situation. Great young player obviously to a ties the Bill's rushing touchdown record but he doesn't get to play full like they don't use him as a three down back.

[Andy Holloway]

He probably declares he wanted 15 million a year in February when he pulled them off of his socials.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah, you're not getting 15 Mr. Cook. But like they. He probably wants to be used like a three down running back. I think he could but the team is has never used him that way. They're not going to use him that way so they're not going to pay him like he is that so he's while he wants that money and there's like there's teams out there that will give James Cook money to come down and be their superstar running back. But the Bills don't want to use them way because why what they're doing is working. Yeah, I know they haven't won a Super bowl but their offense and their rushing attack is always fantastic and generally.

[Andy Holloway]

You'D imagine that James Cook's best situation would be to stay here and sign a deal and be part of the system.

[Kyle Borg]

He to win. Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Kyle Borg]

So Kyle just pulled this up. Last year 43% of his fantasy points came from touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

That is, I mean to be fair he scored a lot of fancy points but yeah, that's something to watch. Adam Schefter came out and said that any trade talks for Brandon Ayuk would be off if he remained on the roster past today. There was also a comment this morning or actually yesterday morning from their general manager John lynch saying he's going to be on the team this year. So you know we're recording this a day early. Could be looking real stupid if there's a trade that happens between. I doubt it right now and tomorrow.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, I mean the last I heard on his recovery was that it's coming along well and they expect to have him mid season.

[Kyle Borg]

So yeah, his which his ADP right now is that's borderline undrafted.

[Jason Moore]

Oh I won't.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah, his ADP is ridiculous because people are still drafting Brandon Ayuk like he's going to come in the season.

[Jason Moore]

You know whose ADP is equally ridiculous? Juwan Jennings. Juwan Jennings is going to be a steal in the drafts, at least for the first half of the season if.

[Andy Holloway]

It becomes formal that IUK is out for X amount of time. He is one of those players that you only take with a last or you know, a last round or a late round and you have to throw him on your IR if you have it and he's not draftable. No, if you don't have an ir.

[Kyle Borg]

Remember it wasn't a simple ACL tear for Brandon iuk. This was a this was a knee disaster that multi ligaments and I think to say that he's going to be back halfway through the season is like that's optimistic. And then that doesn't even include a ramp up period that we always see players with knee injuries go through.

[Jason Moore]

Well, don't forget when he was playing last year he averaged seven fantasy points a game. It was due to before the injury. So it was like what are you hoping you get that again?

[Andy Holloway]

We also had some head coach quotes from the annual owners meeting, including Colt Colts head coach Shane Steichen saying Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson will split starting reps beginning in OTAs and the most consistent quarterback will be the regular season starter.

[Jason Moore]

Oh I what if they're consistently bad? If consistency is the only thing that matters, you'd be like he does this every day. He throws it to the other team every day.

[Andy Holloway]

This is I made the comment this morning. It was interesting because I was kind of joking. I was like how does a team pick the most consistent inconsistent player to start, be inconsistent and then get replaced by the other inconsistent starter because we imagine there'll be a change at some point because they're not good quarterbacks. The reality is is most people replied to that comment with like Daniel Jones is the only choice you have. Like that's the sentiment that I'm seeing is you need to start Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is a player that had success without the peripherals at times, right? He didn't have an offensive line, didn't have a lot of weapons and still had some success. Sometimes where they looked at it the inverse where like Richardson was set up for success, couldn't succeed.

[Jason Moore]

I liked the Daniel Jones signing when it first happened, because I thought he was a good backup. And every team needs a backup, especially one with an Anthony Richardson who's been injured his entire short career already. And now you've got the mobile Daniel Jones. You can run the same system. Since they have made that, what they have done is just destroy the future of their franchise. This is terrible to say that these are competing. For starters.

[Kyle Borg]

I agree.

[Jason Moore]

The fact that there is no human being on planet earth that needs first team reps more than Anthony Richardson and you're coming out and saying, you know what, right off the bat, we're going to take half of them away. What are you doing? Like, you know, you're not a great team with Daniel Jones. You know that. You know that Daniel Jones is not taking you to the promised land. So you're just, you know, you're cutting off your nose to spite your face because you're saying that the best case scenario now is less likely, which is you have a franchise quarterback, a star going forward.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's hard to argue with that because I do think. I think Daniel Jones will probably end up more consistent.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Which means he'll be the starter and then they will switch.

[Jason Moore]

Congrats.

[Andy Holloway]

And Richardson will have less reps leading into the switch, so he will probably have less chance of success. We also got a report from the general manager of the Lions, Holmes, saying that Jameson Williams, whether they're going to pick up his fifth year option. He said it's heading that way. We're most likely going to be doing that. He's a tremendous player for us. Still scratching the surface.

[Kyle Borg]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Breece hall news.

[Jason Moore]

I'm out.

[Andy Holloway]

Jets head coach Aaron Glenn on Breeze hall and the New York jets running backs. Are you leaving the studio?

[Kyle Borg]

He just doesn't want to hear it.

[Jason Moore]

I can't hear you.

[Andy Holloway]

He unplugged his headphones so he cannot hear this.

[Jason Moore]

You let me know when you're done.

[Andy Holloway]

Quote, I think mentally he's in a good place, but I would say that we have three running backs on the team that we're going to utilize as much as possible.

[Kyle Borg]

Jason, you can plug back in for your commentary.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Look, there are people, they've seen your very emotional reactions to Breeze hall and have said, what did I miss? What did I miss about Breeze Hall? Why don't we like Breeze Hall? You know, this is a player that has had flashes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Oh. I mean, he's had more than flashes. A couple years ago. He's the running back. 4. He's obviously very, very talented in the Open field. He had a down year last year, was not very efficient or effective and sometimes it looked like he was not the best back on his own team. Now the team is coming out saying that they want to get the other guys more involved. Honestly, if I was the head coach, I would, I would do that. I would get Braylon Allen the ball a little bit more and split them and try to, you know, have these guys specialize where they are each best. But it's not good for the fantasy success of Breeze hall going forward. The only thing that is good for the fantasy success of Breeze hall going forward is I was looking up the 20, 26 free agents when we were talking about James Cook because let's say he doesn't get an extension, he's going to be one of the free agents. There's really not a lot of competition next year. You got like Derek Henry who, who knows if he's going to play, if he's going to resign or whatever. But you know that one Derek Henry is not a headliner. And then you have the one year contracts this year from like Najee and Jalen Warren. Not exciting. So it's really James Cook and Breece Hall.

[Kyle Borg]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And so if Breece hall does end up going in a platoon this year and he's okay, not great for fantasy. He is the belle of the ball for the 2026 free agents and could end up getting a massive contract from another team that wants to make him a three down back.

[Andy Holloway]

And I just think he's, he's like too alluring of a name regardless of his performance for him to be a value in drafts at all. Like, I don't think it's possible for Breeze hall, no matter any news like this, no matter how much we talk about it, I don't think it's possible that I will draft him because I don't because it's too alluring, it's too exciting.

[Jason Moore]

Every time I see his name in ADP and the guys he's going ahead of, I have a really hard time, you know, Chase Brown and Kyron Williams and it's like those guys were awesome. Why are you taking Breeze Hall? Because he was good a couple of years ago.

[Kyle Borg]

Got a hate the fact that I assume they're talking about Isaiah Davis because this was like if they came out like, hey Breeze, Braylon Allen, we're going to have our own Thunder Lightning.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, that's not bad.

[Kyle Borg]

That's fine. When you're saying we got three and you're, I mean like basically Buffalo Bills situation where they had three guys in the rotation.

[Andy Holloway]

Justin Fields is your quarterback now.

[Jason Moore]

Three Darts is too big.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get into it.

[Jason Moore]

Hey rookie.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the NFL. Well, like we said at the top, this is an overview. What we liked in our scouting process of looking at these players. Some fantasy thoughts, some quick thoughts on them. The Dynasty podcast goes more in depth. The Fantasy Footballers Dynasty pod if you want to go check that out. Very in depth analysis of all those prospects and some insights from Borg and Betts as well. The Dynasty Pass if you are a hardcore Dynasty player. If you're just getting into it either way, check that out atultimatedraftkit.com we have production profiles. We have the rookie mock drafts, risers and fallers. We keep track of everything going on with the rookies and bring that to you so you can make more informed decisions for your draft. But let's begin with the quarterback position. We've got some teams that need quarterbacks. Most of them always need quarterbacks. But Tennessee with the first pick needs a quarterback. Cleveland, second pick, needs a quarterback. The Giants and Jets, both drafted in the top 10, both need a future quarterback. New Orleans, probably planning for the post car era. I've, you know, heard about them being very interested in interviewing some of these guys. Pittsburgh at 21, because they always draft around 21 looking for a quarterback. But let's begin with our consensus number one prospect at the quarterback position. Cam Ward out of Miami. Mike, your first impressions of Cam Ward, Looking at him on tape, evasive in the pocket. You know, he didn't have a ton of rushing yardage, but I thought on film he was very capable of, you know, running when he needed to. What did you think of Cam Ward and why is he sitting at the top of your board?

[Kyle Borg]

So I'll start off with the like a zoomed out look at this quarterback class. I think it is rear. It's difficult. Like we don't feel like. I don't feel like. And just checking out what the industry is saying about this quarterback class. You don't feel as locked in now. That doesn't mean. And when you have a guy who's locked in generational Trevor Lawrence, it doesn't always work. So some of these lower tiered quarterbacks we're talking about, they might actually be the ones to go with. But Cam Ward, I mean, the truth is, first and foremost, he sits at number one for me because he is projected to be the number one NFL player. NFL draft Capital matters so, so much. It matters more than my opinions that I type up in my mother's basements like so. But Kenworth's a good player. I think that he is very capable. I like, you know, I like the journey of, you know, he transferred school a couple times, ends up in Miami and there's kind of like a steady progression of the career, getting better, good accuracy. Last year, 67%. He completed that 67% of his passes while averaging nine and a half yards per attempt. So it's like those, those are good numbers. And he's playing with guys who are not like, this isn't the borough of college where Burrow is playing with multiple first round wide receivers like Cam. Cam's not surrounded by that. So like he is more of the engine to making the. Making things happen.

[Andy Holloway]

For me, it's tough. Obviously, you know, Richardson was the number four overall pick Last year. To me, a big part of, you know, making projections on these players has to be, are they going to be long term starters in the NFL, in your opinion, are you going to have a 2022 where it's Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ritter and Malik Willis or a 2013 with Geno Smith and E.J. manuel? You've always got to be on the lookout of, look, if there's a certain amount of players coming out, they have to. Somebody has to be the first quarterback drafted. Somebody has to be the second one drafted. Teams are desperate for, you know, we'll talk about Shador Sanders, his dance in terms of teams, opinions of him, but you know, to me, solid. He had some plays that were very Caleb Williams, evade the pocket. To me in Miami, you mentioned the fact he wasn't throwing to the best wide receiver in college football, you know, like Chador Sanders with Travis Hunter, good arm strength, you know. Jason, what were your takeaways from Cam Ward?

[Jason Moore]

I went in really skeptical just from this whole draft class being down. And I had watched Elijah Arroyo, his tight end, before scouting Cam Ward, and there were a couple plays in there that I remember thinking, oh, I, I did not like that from the quarterback. So I'm curious how I'm going to feel going through Cam Ward. Once I scouted him, I was like, yeah, this is an NFL player. This. He. He looked to me like if I was a fan of a franchise, the only quarterback that I really believe is an NFL quarterback who's going to last. And that's not to say he's going to be a fantasy sensation, since he's not. He has the ability to be mobile. His scrambling in the pocket I was so impressed with. It was, you know, he didn't take.

[Andy Holloway]

He may run more in the NFL than he did in college.

[Jason Moore]

I think he might, he might be even more valuable for fantasy in that sense. But his pocket awareness, his ability to evade the pressure and keep his eyes downfield and make plays was great. His arm strength was good, his accuracy was good, and it wasn't all screens. I was pretty impressed with him. I don't see him as like this generational superstar talent, but I do think if I would love for him to be the, you know, if I had to hope in one of these rookies for my franchise, I think Cam Ward, the Titans.

[Kyle Borg]

Are you.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I'm, I'm absolutely taking Cam Ward.

[Andy Holloway]

If you were Jacksonville and you could choose to restart with Cam Ward or keep Trevor Lawrence on that contract, what would you do?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, if you're talking I get the rookie contract versus the handcuffs that are on me right now with Trevor Lawrence. I would switch to Cam Ward in a heartbeat.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah. Just to give you a lay of the land. 20, 24, 39 touchdowns, seven interceptions, a 172 passer rating, four touchdowns on the ground, 200 yards on the ground.

[Jason Moore]

Six, two, two, 23.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got the plays much bigger than Shador.

[Kyle Borg]

Which to clarification if you're not aware the way that NCAA or whatever college they score rushing for a quarterback, if you take a sack that yardage is removed from, from your. From your rushing total which you will notice.

[Jason Moore]

Do you like that?

[Kyle Borg]

No, I hate it.

[Jason Moore]

I think I like it. I think I, I just. From a fantasy, from a fantasy football perspective, I wish sacks were penalized. I wish. And obviously if you lost rushing yards when you take an 8 yard sack then that would be penalized from a fantasy standpoint.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah, I can see, I can see the argument of taking like because in the NFL you take a sack that drives probably dead more than likely but you're really going to notice the rushing yards when we look at should do it.

[Andy Holloway]

22 sacks for Cam Ward last year in Miami. And then number two, Mike actually has him at three. I do Jason and I have him at two, Shador Sanders. I don't know if I.

[Jason Moore]

In my heart, I don't know if.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to end up being the. I think I might accidentally end up being the most bullish on Shador of this.

[Kyle Borg]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I actually think he will succeed at the next level. So I mean that's like step one, right. Are you going to be a starter that can go out there and succeed on a regular basis? Hyper accurate did have Travis Hunter to throw the ball to. Also evasive in the pocket. Also played for a team that had no rushing game of any kind. In Colorado, in fact, their leading rusher was about 350 yards.

[Kyle Borg]

I think that might have been a active decision by Papa Dion.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a little bit of both. I mean you also put yourself in a position. They were 9 and 4 last year. The defense struggled at times, but a 74% passer, 37 and 10 touchdown to interception ratio. I actually think he's going to succeed at the next level. There are some throws that he attempts and succeeded with that I think are very college football decisions that'll get you into piles of trouble. Some of the stuff that Caleb Williams did where you were like that plays amazing. But if you try that three times in the NFL you're getting picked, you've got to take the easier play. But we're talking about a player that was 82% completion percentage between the numbers. So he threw it over the middle a ton. You know, to me I love seeing that there were, there were quarterbacks that came out years ago. That Ohio State quarterback played for Washington. I don't know why I cannot remember his name right now.

[Kyle Borg]

Well, now I can only take a few.

[Andy Holloway]

First round draft pick Dwayne Haskins. Dwayne Haskins. He was a player that in the scouting process you noticed everything was to the edges, it was to the outside. I like to see players. To me it's a great trade as a quarterback when you're willing to throw the ball in the middle of the field timing routes. So I actually think Shador will succeed. I think this order Cam Ord and Shador could very much change for me post draft. If you go look at the, the post draft rankings, landing spot's going to matter. We didn't talk about it, but Cam Ord, if it's Tennessee, how do you feel about that for those first couple of years?

[Kyle Borg]

I feel, I feel okay, actually. I think that Tennessee has. They're not overpowering you, but they, they're not depleted.

[Andy Holloway]

Not that I think Shador will go number two, but if you just put those two situations up against one another. Tennessee, Cleveland. I like his opportunity to go to Cleveland and succeed fantasy wise more than I do camp.

[Jason Moore]

I would, I would rather have whichever quarterback I prefer. I think the better spot is Tennessee. I think it's just a better run franchise. And if you look at the weapons, I mean you got Jerry Judy for Cleveland, but there's not much else.

[Andy Holloway]

Sutter Tillman, I think he flashed quite a bit last year.

[Kyle Borg]

I think both of both landing spots are okay as in the often we feel just terrible about the team offenses who are drafting at the top. I think that the spots that need a quarterback are. They're okay.

[Jason Moore]

Shador Sanders to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you made the comment earlier. The only one you feel real confident in is Cam. So tell me why you think shoulder.

[Jason Moore]

Your There was a lot I liked from Shador Sanders. He throws such a catchable ball. Like he looks like, you know, he doesn't have the same arm strength and the fiery zip, but he certainly to me looks like he has the ability to throw an NFL ball. He can get it out to the middle fast enough, quick enough, hit guys right in stride. I think it's a beautiful pass that he has. The problem I had on Film was that when things went right, he was really good. He was really, really, really good. But in the games where the pass rush got him, I remember there were a lot of plays against Baylor where it was like, oh, the pass rush was coming. He took sacks that I feel like were his fault. He didn't overcome. To me, he looks like this wonderful game manager when things go right and if he goes to a good situation, I agree, Andy, he can succeed. I don't look at this guy and say he doesn't have the ability to, but I worry that if he's not, if he's not to a great destination, which most of the top, you know, we could debate which one is better between Tennessee and the Browns. Neither is great. There's a reason why these guys are picking number one and number two. I don't know if when it collapses, if he can overcome.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's a better thrower under pressure than Cam ward.

[Kyle Borg]

Okay. He. 26% of his sacks. Jason, to highlight your point, they were deemed quarterback responsible. So as in he was the reason for, you know, a quarter of his sacks, which. That's a very high number to push the blame saying, no, the quarterback took it. When I'm watching him, like, and he is, he is a mobile guy, but like, so I was talking about rushing yards. He finished the year with negative 50 rushing yards. This, and this is a player who can make some things happen on the ground. But speaking of him in the, in the pocket, very rarely do you see him, at least when I'm watching him step forward into the pot.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he retreats too much. He retreats too much.

[Kyle Borg]

And he for sure. And the retreat gun shy, the retreating, then just. It compiles on and makes the sack even worse when, when it eventually happens. So to me, it's like, are you, when you're facing an actual NFL defense, are you going to be able to see the field properly? Are you going to be able to look players off and create things with your eyes? So, and that combined with there, to me there's, there still feels like there's some hesitancy from the NFL of like all the reviews for Sanders are not glowing. He's not locked in to be the number two overall pick, which you would. When you have two teams at the, at the top of the draft that need a quarterback and you felt, and you felt like there's two really strong prospects, it would, we would be saying, okay, who's picking at. Who's at three. That's when the draft actually starts.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I Think that's fair? I mean, the. I look at those offensive lines in the collegiate. You know, like, Cam Ward had a great offensive line. They did a lot more on the. In the running game, they did a lot more on pass protection and the retreating that you're talking about. It's a fair criticism. I think it's a product of it kind of being Sanders and Hunter versus the world for that offense versus a complete offense.

[Kyle Borg]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

If he ends up at a. At a good spot, he should do her. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, Boston. You know what? I'm fine with it. I'm okay. Compared to. You've set a bar. You've set a bar that so low.

[Jason Moore]

My bar is.

[Andy Holloway]

You've delivered it well.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

It's going to. It's better than Milrose Place, which we're going to talk about later.

[Kyle Borg]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Jackson Dart, though. It comes in at 2 on Mike's list, 3 on Jason's.

[Jason Moore]

Number one in Kyle's. I don't know if he's actually number one in his rankings, but he's definitely number one in Kyle's chart. He is number one in your heart.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyle's speaking up. Jackson.

[Kyle Borg]

Because when you call Kyle out on his bullcrap, then Danny, Danny. Oh, no. Oh, no. Kyle, you love Jackson Dark. Just admit it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Silence. Yeah, that's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Did we mute him? Did we not? You'll never know.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't think we muted him. Jackson Dart, guys. Ole Miss, 29 and 6. The touchdown to interception ratio, 69% completion percentage.

[Jason Moore]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

And we had 495 yards on the ground from Jackson Dart. You know, by the way, one thing I didn't bring up. Cam Ward's younger than Shador, right?

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah. Shadour is what, 23? Cam Ward had just a couple months.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. But he also had an exceptionally young breakout age. Right. He was 18.

[Andy Holloway]

Jackson darts. Not yet. 22. Breakout age of 19. Why is he at 2 over Shador? Do you think it is just more prototypical NFL quarterback prospect to you?

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah. And just the. I like Dart's arm talent a little bit more where like Sanders, I'm not trying to take away from. I think I do agree with everything we said of. He throws a. Good. Throws a good ball. He's very accurate. I just have concerns of. Once he's, you know, scanning the NFL field, will that be enough?

[Jason Moore]

Like.

[Kyle Borg]

Well, when he has to hit an out route, will it. Will it get there in time or will the DB be able to pick it off where Dart he. I mean, he is he's just, he's been a dark horse here of rising up a dart horse. I didn't want to do it because Jason Darth just did his awful joke.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but then what are you supposed to. What are we supposed to do?

[Kyle Borg]

I put the ball on the teeth for you.

[Andy Holloway]

He could go to New Orleans at 9 and sit behind Carr for a year. He could be a pick by the Colts if they aren't convicted based on their two inconsistent players. He could.

[Jason Moore]

Do you think he'll be a first round pick?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I do, I do. And I think they're. I mean, I can't imagine a team like Pittsburgh if they don't. I mean, even with Aaron Rodgers. How do you not take a chance on a prospect like this at 21?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The nice thing from a fantasy perspective and the reason why I think that.

[Kyle Borg]

This is part of why he's at 2.

[Jason Moore]

You can easily put him at 2 over Shador Sanders so long as Jackson Dart gets drafted in the first round. Like right now, I'm not 100% positive he'll be a first round pick. So he's my three. But the fact that we don't care, I don't care for if he's a great NFL player. For the most part. I care about is he going to be good for fantasy football, is he going to help me win in the real game, which is fantasy football? And he runs, you know, three years ago, 614 rushing yards. Two years ago, 400 rushing yards, 495 rushing yards his final season. Those things matter for fantasy. So you add the arm talent if he's a first round draft pick with his mobility and you kind of get.

[Kyle Borg]

A little scramble rate of the class.

[Jason Moore]

Right. So that, I mean, that's what you want. That's going to help you succeed early in your NFL career. You look at how that helped Bo Nix and Jaden Daniels. Obviously, Jaden Daniels, a far superior dual threat athlete. But Jackson Dart, that's the reason why I like him. But I was, I was a little disappointed with the film. I wasn't blown away. No.

[Andy Holloway]

Jalen Milroe. 726 yards on the ground last year. 531 in 20, 23. Four years in Alabama. What were your takeaways on film for Jalen Milroe? Kind of rounding out our quarterback overview before we get into running backs.

[Kyle Borg]

So the easiest thing to do with Milroe is like the, like because his numbers aren't pro. His ground numbers are fantastic. But you're talking two full seasons of 13 games 2,800 passing yards. So this isn't a guy who was you know absolutely getting it done compared.

[Andy Holloway]

To 16 passing touchdowns last year.

[Kyle Borg]

Jackson Dart threw almost 4,300 passing yards in 13 games. So a and then there's the well is this Anthony Richardson all over again? No, Milro is a better a far better prospect has way more experience which was one of the huge knocks on Anthony Richardson was like the dude hasn't played very many games. We're going to take him at 4.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah I mean I guess I probably would push back against better prospect when you look at ceiling because nobody's going to Jalen Milro is not going to get drafted anywhere near Richardson got drafted even though he was much like Milroy is a better passer more yeah. Completion percentage isn't close between the two.

[Kyle Borg]

Correct. I mean 64 versus 53 sub 54.

[Andy Holloway]

Which has translated directly into the NFL but you know this was a very hyped quarterback that had a more of a letdown season in 2024 compared to his, you know, 2023 year where he threw 23 passes or touchdown passes.

[Kyle Borg]

Just six picks the and then a hard part for Milroe is he at least the latest I've seen. Kyle, you can update me if if this has changed. He's not projected to be a first round quarterback. No where does so I mean if you're not in the first round he's got your backup.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not backup right now.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah. You're not starting right away. We've had some success with with quarterbacks in the second round. Not a ton when you're talking about the hit rate versus the first rounder but it's like Jalen hurts second round pick so he, he's automatically put into the position of he's going to be a backup at least for a while like Saints if they take him in this in the second. I don't remember if they have a second round pick but like that's interesting. Let him learn from Derek Carr for a year but overall I am yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

They'Re picking up 40.

[Kyle Borg]

I'm more concerned for Milrose long term.

[Andy Holloway]

They have two thirds as well. Yeah, me too.

[Kyle Borg]

It's because it's like if he doesn't capitalize you think he'll go in the second because he's a quarterback. There's a chance though that people are like no, we're not going to spend a pick here on like we like the depth at other positions so we will take a quarterback in the third and now, I mean, eventually you get into the area where you're like, well, it's Hendon Hooker. It doesn't matter how much I liked that player. That dude is buried unless something catastrophic happens in front of him.

[Andy Holloway]

Running backs. Let's talk about a very exciting position in this upcoming draft. You have a lot of teams that have needs at the running back position. The Raiders, who pick at number six and 37. The saints, who have talked a lot about drafting a running back at 9 and 40. The Bears, great place for a quarter for a running back to land. Drafting at number 10. Also, two picks in the second round. So they've got the draft capital to pull the trigger. Dallas, we know they're at 12. They're at 44. In the second round, you got the Broncos, major need at running back. They're picking at 20.

[Jason Moore]

He's not making it there.

[Andy Holloway]

Steelers. Well, you're talking about Ashton Genti. I haven't started talking about him yet.

[Jason Moore]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'm just talking about lots of running.

[Jason Moore]

Lots of good running backs in this class. But everybody's wanting to know where Genti's.

[Andy Holloway]

Going, about where Genti can go.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But, yeah, Steelers at 21, Chargers at 22. The Chiefs at 31. There's a lot of places that running backs could land and succeed immediately, which is what we love. Right. Like we talk every year, rookie running backs make contributions for fantasy on a regular basis. But, I mean, you know, how many of those teams that I just read do you not like? I mean, if a running back lands in New Orleans, okay, maybe you have to sit behind Camara a little bit, but Chicago love it. Las Vegas with Geno Smith. Now the, you know, the Cowboys, the Broncos, the Steelers.

[Jason Moore]

Broncos might be the best. Steelers great.

[Andy Holloway]

Steelers great.

[Jason Moore]

Chargers might be the best. I mean, there's so many good landing spots. And the great news is that this year, it's lining up with so many great running backs. So there. I mean, every year there's usually two rookie running backs in the top 12, certainly in the top 24. I feel like this year there could be six guys, rookies in the top 24 this year, and that wouldn't even like. I don't even think that's a spicy take. I think that will happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we won't let you know who we have at number one until after the break. If you've been having your McDonald's sausage.

[Jason Moore]

McMuffin with an iced coffee from somewhere.

[Andy Holloway]

Else, now is a great time to reconsider.

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[Kyle Borg]

Oh, they're two.

[Andy Holloway]

We're fist pounding producers co managing a team that believe. Okay. Then Al Borland pulls his trophy out to just remind him. But these two guys have already cemented Ash and Genty in the NFL hall of fame. They've got the busts already being manufactured.

[Jason Moore]

Those are going to be good looking busts. Did you see? I found out why he did not participate in the combine drills and it was because he had to wear a shirt. He had to wear a shirt at combine. And his pro day he was allowed to go.

[Kyle Borg]

I didn't know where you were going.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah. I mean the pro day. If you haven't seen him, he must work out. I think so. I mean goodness gracious. Goodness gracious.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah, he's very svelte. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Swole. He looked like his skin couldn't do more. No, his skin could not be more muscle. Like don't hit that guy with a needle because he might. He might just rip.

[Andy Holloway]

So pro day looked good. Like his prolific collegiate running back.

[Kyle Borg]

All right, from, from the visual.

[Andy Holloway]

FBS record 151 missed tackles. Force 77 runs of 10 plus yards. The only running back in the class. Average 2 plus yards per play or.

[Kyle Borg]

Sorry per team play.

[Andy Holloway]

Per team play in his career. Catch the football.

[Jason Moore]

And it was almost three.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean that's the overview. The overview is like is he, is he potential legend status? And I think that he is at.

[Jason Moore]

Least potential legend type of potential legend status. Honestly, if he wasn't a Boise State running back, if he did this for A different team, I think. I mean, he's already going to be. He's going to be drafted first, clearly, in the NFL draft. He's going to be first in almost every rookie draft, even super flex drafts. He's probably going to be first because he's going to be a top 15ish NFL draft pick. He's got the most production that we've seen in a long, long time. His production profile is outrageously good.

[Andy Holloway]

You like 2600 yards on the ground last year? 29.

[Jason Moore]

I'm a huge fan.

[Andy Holloway]

29 touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

I love that too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, good fumble. Four times.

[Jason Moore]

He broke out at 18 years old. He's 215 pounds. He basically checks every single box across the board. The only one that you question is just the level of competition. We have seen a handful of Boise State running backs who are exceptionally prolific, statistically speaking, and then they don't live up to that hype.

[Andy Holloway]

He's 5, 9 shorter, which is fine.

[Jason Moore]

For a running back.

[Andy Holloway]

So is there any scenario like, I'll paint a quick picture here, like he goes to the Saints at nine and then one of these other prolific running backs goes at 10. I think we had talked like Omari and Hampton goes at 10 to the Bears. Is there any world where your rookie draft is unsettled?

[Jason Moore]

There is. There is a world. I think the only situation that makes sense is if Genty were to go to the 49ers and Omarion Hampton were to go to one of the great landing spots, whether it's the Bears or whether it's the Broncos with high draft capital, you might make the argument that you should switch those and Genti should be the second running back taken. That's legit and we can do that after the NFL draft.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're the Saints Bears, you wouldn't switch?

[Jason Moore]

I don't. I don't think so, no.

[Andy Holloway]

So, yeah, Genti is very secure on the tippy top of drafts for both the running back position in the NFL and for the rookie drafts. So, you know, it's. It's hard to argue. You know, you talked about Boise State. What Genti did was highlight real stuff every single week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, it really was. So if you haven't watched, which, you know, I would say most people don't just watch Boise State college games.

[Andy Holloway]

Was Doug Martin at Boise State running back?

[Jason Moore]

I believe so. Doug Martin.

[Andy Holloway]

Madison.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah. Alexander Madison. JJE.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy McNichols.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Yep. A lot of prolific backs there that don't necessarily pan out. But this was truly. I mean, if you watch the film. He breaks tackles every single play. You cannot. No one on one guy is getting him down.

[Andy Holloway]

Balance is out.

[Jason Moore]

He has this wildly short and effective stiff arm. I don't understand it. It's like I feel like it always works. But this isn't Derek Henry's like six foot long arm. This is, you know, five foot nine guy with a stiff arm that no one could get to him.

[Andy Holloway]

So tldr is going to work. Yeah, it's going to work at the next level for Genty at number two for Jason and I, number three for Mike Amari. And Hampton coming out of North Carolina, bigger back than Mr. Genti. He's 6 foot 220 breakout age of 20 years old. I loved what I saw in film from Hampton. He's the type of player that I think will translate very, very well. He's what you want in terms of being able to be a 3 down back. He can catch the football. Had 38 receptions in 20, 24. I liked his speed. To me he was one of those like get him going guys. Right. Get him to help him turn the corner. Certain systems might be more of an advantage for Hampton, but because of the demand for the running back position right now in the NFL and these great landing spots, if it's, if it's Chicago, if it's Dallas, if it's Pittsburgh, like I'm feeling pretty good about Hampton as a next level fantasy star.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean there is an argument, assuming that he gets the first round draft capital that he's been being mocked with lately and frequently. If he gets that, then he should really be seen of as in the tier with Genty. As far as fantasy future, this is a guy that does project to be able to have true three down utilization. He is a great pass blocker. He should be in every down like he. That's the style. If you're going to draft a player like Omarion Hampton with that size, that strength, that pedigree, that utilization, you are drafting him to be on the field all the time, in all situations and for fantasy purposes, that's great. He's going to catch the ball. He's going to be a goal line guy. I loved the film.

[Andy Holloway]

There's only four players in ACC history with 1500 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns in consecutive years, which is what he did. Lamar Jackson, Dalvin Cook, Travis Etienne. I love that Lamar Jackson is the Marty and Hampton. So upright runner. Yeah, dude, when I hear upright runner, there's only one guy that always pops up.

[Jason Moore]

I know who it is. Peterson, run DMC Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Darren McFadden.

[Kyle Borg]

You can't call that upright.

[Jason Moore]

That is toothpick.

[Kyle Borg]

It is vertical.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it just gets in my head. But Mike, why don't you talk about why you have a. I'm a nipple lower than.

[Kyle Borg]

I'm not out on Hampton Henderson, but I am, I am definitely would be the cold water of the three of us. He look, I have him at three. I can see where people are mock drafting him. And we said at the top draft capital matters so, so much. But when I like back when I first reviewed Omarion Hampton, I was like, I think he's good. I. It took some time for me to warm up to him and it kind of my, my closeout on him is. I said he's oddly good, as in above average balance. But I'm not blown away by the traits. So where like Andy loves Hampton. That's. That was not my, that wasn't my takeaway for him. I thought this is a, this is a good run. This is a starting running back, a good player. But I'm not over the moon for Hampton. And since that time we, we've gotten a couple quotes, you know, they're anonymous but of people being concerned about Hampton not being a true starter caliber running back.

[Jason Moore]

And that's just, that's someone who wants to draft.

[Kyle Borg]

Maybe, maybe. But then the other one is, and this is a grain of salt, but this is a Maurice Jones Drew, who was, you know, an elite running back. How well can he scout running backs? I don't know that for sure, but he had, he listed, I think four or five guys as okay, these are guys who are starters right away in the NFL. And then there were system running backs. Hampton's in his system running backs. I think he had him at RB7 and silly. And my final thought, my final note on Hampton was he. Because I said I'm not blown away, but in the right spot he will thrive. So the landing spot is very important to Hampton. For me, compared to the other guys.

[Andy Holloway]

I saw some Arian Foster.

[Kyle Borg]

Well, then that would be why you love him.

[Andy Holloway]

You're right. You're right. There's a flow. There's a flow to his game like.

[Kyle Borg]

Water we all love. Like we have archetypes and types of players that we all are drawn to.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, and it's not like Arian Foster was a high draft pick.

[Kyle Borg]

Was he even drafted? Was he seventh round or undrafted?

[Andy Holloway]

Undrafted, yeah, undrafted. So I mean there's talk about a system gets a hold of you and it works. You know, Foster was that Example I.

[Jason Moore]

Like Hampton a lot. I don't think he's a system running back at all. He does things in the open field that are system lists that he just breaks tackles and balance and has great athleticism, size, strength, pretty much all the. All the things that you usually want to see. So I'm in and it's worth noting footclan like this year to me I think there might. There might be six guys six who are maybe better than last year's number one like last year's draft class where it was Jonathan Brooks and Trey Benson and Blake Corum. Those guys if they were in this year's class would be very low. So when we're. When we're putting Hampton two or even Trayvon Henderson three, that's ahead of those guys. It's. Yeah it's ahead of those guys. Just because they're three it's not their fault. They're in a great draft class.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Travion Henderson comes in at three for us, two for Mike, three for Jason and myself. We're going to throw him in with Quinchin Judkins and talk about the Ohio State running backs. Mike, tell me why Henderson jumps off the page for you.

[Kyle Borg]

So he is an absolute demon on the field and going back to my comment if we all have play type that we are drawn to.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, you've been talking about Henderson Henderson.

[Kyle Borg]

To me is he when I'm watching the tape and I got the same butterflies I got when I was watching Jameer Gibbs of this is a guy who could shock with draft capital and he can hit a home run anywhere on the field. We're talking 90 plus yard rushing touchdowns. It's not impossible. He got used in the receiving game. He's got good hands like they they'll motion him out and and let him run a nine route down the field on the outside and they. And throwing the ball. They trusted him with that at Ohio State. His production profile if you're talking strictly that it is not the it's not anywhere near you know where Genty or Hampton is because he had Judkins on the team who is.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah Judkins had 194 carries who and.

[Kyle Borg]

Like Judkins projects as a day to pick at the worst case scenario for just reminds me sharing the field with two it's two NFL starting caliber running.

[Andy Holloway]

Backs on the Chubb and Sonny Michelle.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah. Down in Georgia. Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

It reminds me of that situation.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah. Yes absolutely. And Henderson he just with. With the quick twitch and the speed. That's what I fell in love with Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you have any thoughts on Henderson?

[Jason Moore]

I echo a lot of what Mike's saying. I think Gibbs is the. Is the comp. I. Gibbs was better had higher draft capital I project. But you know, it wouldn't be shocking to me if, you know, if the draft falls in a way where Genty goes six or whatever that number 10, if the Bears, you know, who are trying to recreate what's going on for the Lions, they draft Gibbs. Yeah, they draft Henderson after they've upgraded the center of that offensive line. That wouldn't surprise me. He does a lot of stuff that you want in fantasy, especially in today's fantasy. Catch the ball, extreme speed and yeah, I mean I really love him. I see these three guys as like tier one process 202 is what I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Seeing on the NFL.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's definitely lighter.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's, that's it. Always when you get right around 200, I get a little bit nervous about utilization. I get nervous about the. I almost said Thomas Jones. Who am I thinking of out of usc.

[Kyle Borg]

We interviewed him out of usc.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. For goodness sake.

[Kyle Borg]

We're running. Oh, Ronald Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Ronald Jones. Sorry.

[Kyle Borg]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But the hype and explosiveness, like there's two sides of that coin, right. Like if you've got are you Gibbs.

[Kyle Borg]

Or do you slip into a. Gibbs is 59202.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The draft capital is going to have a lot to do with it. He's the more explosive one. Judkins was the, you know, the chub in the.

[Kyle Borg]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

In the Sonny Michelle, Nick Chubb, Georgia comp for Judkins and Henderson.

[Jason Moore]

One of the things that gives me confidence in Henderson is that it's always been he was a five star recruit. He was the number one draft, you know, the number one running back in the class going to College. Then year one as an 18 year old, has 1255 yards for Ohio State. He's just been great.

[Andy Holloway]

So I think he's worried about him if he like what if he's a second rounder? No big deal.

[Jason Moore]

No big deal. Big deal. I think he will go in the first round. I think all three of these guys will be first round NFL draft picks. But it is true that the depth of this class could really hurt the draft capital of these guys because these teams could go, man, I really like Trevion Henderson.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a tier based drafting.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You could end up waiting.

[Jason Moore]

You're like, I'll just get a really good. Because the running backs that go in Round three are going to be super more valuable than most third round picks like that is the teams that are drafting running backs in the third round, they're doing it right. But these guys I still see as clear cut first round talent.

[Andy Holloway]

Those three I think we all agree should be the first three off the board. Once you go beyond those three, even though the talent is there, you get into more variety in terms of how both how fantasy analysts and NFL NFL analysts have them ranked and in terms of you might start picking and choosing based on system based on you know, what type of back that you want. Judkins we have, you know, four, five and seven. I'm the highest on him right now. I thought solid was kind of the way I saw him on film. He's a, he's a bigger back, 6 foot 220 but production, right. A lot of, a lot of production and you know, five and a half a carry in his, in his final season, 14 touchdowns, just one fumble over two years for Judkins which is great to see by the way. Henderson protected the ball as well. They were teaching him well in Ohio State. He never fumbled over the last two years.

[Jason Moore]

I'm the lowest on Judkins and it's not because I don't think he's a good prospect. It's just because I like he's seven for me and there are seven really good running backs in this class. So this isn't a low. He's not normally my seven. I think he does everything pretty well. He didn't really blow me away at any one specific trait which is probably why I have him a little lower honestly post combine. Yeah, I'm really higher on him. He was a big winner, rushed the combine. I mean elite athlete. I didn't see that on film but obviously the production was there. Production touchdowns, rushing, yardage, capability to handle the load with you know, being a 220 pound back. So a lot to like with judges.

[Andy Holloway]

You gotta remember Nick Chubb was drafted around after Sony Michelle as the power back. Sony had the explosiveness. Chubb was the power back. So just you know, not that that will repeat but both of these players national title winning, productive, well rounded backs Caleb Johnson and Cam Scatter Boo, the last two names that we'll talk about for the rookie running back overview. I believe you can mention maybe another favorite from the list but Caleb Johnson. Mike, you're at, you're the lowest. Jason, the highest on him, ran a.

[Jason Moore]

4, 5, 7 had a bad combine.

[Kyle Borg]

He did but his hyper productive in Iowa. His 40 seemed slower than the film.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Kyle Borg]

Like on film, when he's breaking away, people aren't catching.

[Jason Moore]

Kyle, do we have any like miles per hour data on Caleb Johnson? Because I feel like he has to have crushed. He had to have got up to like 22. When I watched the film, there were plays. He's a very patient, you know, sometimes too patient. Very slow starter, waits for the holes to open, but very explosive once it's time to go. And you don't usually catch them, you know, 75 yard run for a touchdown. Just a really, really big play machine.

[Andy Holloway]

He did reach 22 miles an hour last year.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, there it is. So the film, it's kind of like Puka. Puka goes and runs a slow 40. But his college miles per hour were great. I'm not going to allow the combine to affect my belief in Caleb Johnson. I, afterwards, I, because I had him at 4, you know, watching him, I was unsure at first. The more that I watched, I was like, yeah, this guy, this guy is going to hit home runs in the NFL. And then the combine happened. I was like, oh man, should I move him down? And I'm holding steady on Caleb Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

To me, this is the line between star and starter. Like, I think Caleb Johnson can be an NFL starter. I don't know if he can be an NFL star.

[Kyle Borg]

He is extremely smooth. I was disappointed with, like, this is a, this is a man. This is a big dude. And I don't feel like he played to his size where like there's some guys who are small and they play big and some guys who are big and they play small and that, that's what hit that. That's how it, that's how it looked to, to me, I said like, he gets, he gets stuck too much for a player that's 225. Like at the line of.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he runs upright for a big guy. So that can hurt him get, you know, get held up.

[Kyle Borg]

And I do have a note of the, the get moving after the catch isn't great. So I mean that could speak to the 40 of. He just. He's a locomotive. It takes a little bit to get it going. But once he's at top speed, he's very fast. But I, I felt like overall he was. He could be magma hot. And then there's some games where I watched him, like, this is. This isn't it. So he's. He's not as high as the other guys, but he will be. He's fascinating to watch for the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Somebody tell me what to believe about the.

[Jason Moore]

This is the most fascinating square shaped.

[Andy Holloway]

Cam scatterboo who 1700 yards last year, including 600 receiving yards. Dominance, versatility. You know, the run that ASU made into the tournament, it was so impressive. I mean, he was their offense in a lot of ways. He was also a zero star recruit. This was a player that transferred multiple times.

[Jason Moore]

Sacramento State Hornets.

[Andy Holloway]

He was a Hornet. Yeah, you can't argue with production. You can't argue with the tackle breaking that you saw in film over and over and over again. Great contact balance. I mean, we're from Arizona. I watched ASU all year. Camschetta. Boo. Was the entire. Like, you didn't really understand it sometimes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, not at all.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I, that's what I was hit with.

[Jason Moore]

Why can't anyone tackle him? Why is he stronger than everyone? It made no sense. You'd watch it and you'd be like, he doesn't look super fast, but he's running away from guys. He doesn't look super big, but he's running over guys. I mean, he runs over, he gets low.

[Kyle Borg]

He's an angry man.

[Jason Moore]

He runs under guys.

[Kyle Borg]

He is like a mole angry.

[Jason Moore]

He is so angry. He just. And he has the Marshawn lynch thing where it's like, I'm going to hit you over and over and over and over and over and over. And it gets easier for me as the game goes on. He broke so many tackles that if you, if you just look at metrics, okay, if you're just going to spreadsheet, scout Cam is as good as prospects that we've seen since. I mean, the prolific statistical production, tackle breaking production is like you see lists of all sorts of tweets that go out where it's like players who have done X, Y and Z and it's like saquon Barkley, Christian McCaffrey and Cam Scatterboo over and over and over. But we don't know that he's going to have the NFL draft capital. He didn't have the, you know, the high school recruiting prospect. So I'm fascinated to see does a team invest because this is the type of player that after the NFL draft I could just go, he's a fourth round pick, don't care.

[Andy Holloway]

Is there a chance he's a third down back?

[Jason Moore]

A third down back? He has the capabilities for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, like at the next level, is there a chance he kind of finds.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think, I don't think someone's going to have him just be a Third down back, he was too bruising of a.

[Andy Holloway]

Well. Third down short. Short yardage maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Sure, yeah, both.

[Andy Holloway]

He was exclusively a shotgun back as well.

[Kyle Borg]

His contact balance is. Is top tier. He has power. My notes on Scatterboo are like my brain cannot handle him because he seems lumbering and slow. The jump cut takes about two years to complete and it works every time. I know that there are. I am. And what I've said on the Dynasty podcast is I am all in on Scatter Boo unless the NFL tells me that teams are out.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Kyle Borg]

Because what I'm watching, it's only one year. Of course some of these other guys have a bigger resume. He had one truly elite season. But if an NFL team goes in on him, I will be all in.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the. One of the things, you know, just to give some brief background on Scatterboo is that as a junior he weighed maybe 10 pounds more than he did as a senior. And that was a big point of emphasis from their head coach and their.

[Kyle Borg]

Staff of cut down.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to get your weight down so you can have more explosiveness in the open field, which you saw more of last year. He's very versatile. You know, he can catch the football and catch it downfield. It's just, I'm with you guys, I think it's draft capital. And what does the NFL want to tell me about all these confusing film versus numbers?

[Jason Moore]

I think someone will go in on him because he is really good.

[Andy Holloway]

600 yards receiving in college is really insane.

[Jason Moore]

1700 rushing. I mean this is not, these are not like, oh, he had a good season. This is like an all timer season. 1700 rushing yards, 600 receiving yards in the same season, 21 rushing touchdowns. The Falcon doesn't like him.

[Andy Holloway]

Falcon doesn't like him. So you, that's a good sign for him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's a great sign. He reminds me a lot of James Conner, a guy that every single play is picking up extra yards, is breaking one or two tackles, is getting a chunk play, but never running away from guys. James Conner doesn't have a 75 yard run in his system. That's fine and that's totally fine. This is a player that I think is going to get, you know, 8 to 18 yards on the regular, hard fought yards and wear down a defense.

[Andy Holloway]

When I look at our, the rest of our rookie rankings at running back, I see a couple of things that stand out. I see you both fairly high on Devin Neal. I see RJ Harvey at 8 for Jason coming out of UCF Mike, you've got DJ Giddens in your top 10.

[Kyle Borg]

Yeah, he's been a riser.

[Andy Holloway]

So is there another name you want to just throw out there that you're a fan of?

[Kyle Borg]

Devin Neal is really the one to.

[Jason Moore]

Talk about, I think. Devin Neal. Devin Neal is in the same group to me with Cam Scatterboo, you know, Caleb Johnson.

[Kyle Borg]

He's.

[Jason Moore]

He's in that.

[Kyle Borg]

Wow. He's that high up for you.

[Jason Moore]

I really liked Devin Neal quite a bit. I think he is very well rounded.

[Andy Holloway]

A very good Neil with it. Mike.

[Kyle Borg]

Oh my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Boston. I did that to myself.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, good. He deserved it. But yeah, I know. I was a big fan of Devin Neal. Reminded. Reminded both of us. This is the player I remember we scouted independently, totally separate and we just kept writing down the clear and utter comp that.

[Kyle Borg]

Devin Singleton.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Devin Singleton.

[Kyle Borg]

And it turned out and that had nothing. We figured out it was the same name after we had that. We're already talking about the computer.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not the kind of comp that gives me charge though.

[Jason Moore]

But he's got.

[Kyle Borg]

But the thing is Singletary was always a good capable back and that's how I see Devin Neal. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not a headliner, but.

[Kyle Borg]

No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

The difference to me though is that Devin Singletary, if Devin Singletary had Devin Neal's body, he would like. Devin Singletary is 57203. He was never, you know, able to.

[Kyle Borg]

And not fast enough to be 203 exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Whereas. But his skill. Devin Singletary skill is why he was able to be 57203 and have a long career in the NFL being given carries because he was just really good at the position. I think Devin Neal is good at the position but he now has a much larger size body speed. So I think he'll work in the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, draft capital is going to tell us a lot of how these teams buy into these guys in the third, fourth, fifth round. We have wide receiver and tight end rookie previews coming on the Thursday episode, so don't miss those. If you want a further deep dive any of those running back and quarterbacks, you can check out the Dynasty Pass atultimatedraftkit.com you can check out the Dynasty podcast which I will be going on this week in the most ironic episode in the history of fantasy football.

[Jason Moore]

Tune in to find out why.

[Andy Holloway]

An analysis of top tips for your rookie draft and I'll be guest appearing on that show. As a man who trades his rookie picks every year that is going to do it for today, though. Thank you for joining us. Shout out to the Deucers over there, Ashton Gentry, the Ashton Genti Lovers, and we'll be back.

[Kyle Borg]

Goodbye.

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