Fantasy Football - Shocking Stats + Fantasy Valentines - Podcast for 2/12

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode Title: Shocking Stats + Fantasy Valentines
Air Date: February 12, 2026
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Overview

In this engaging, stat-packed episode, the Fantasy Footballers trio celebrate the spirit of Valentine’s Day by sharing their early “fantasy football crushes” for the 2026 season. Alongside playful banter and strong opinions, Andy, Jason, and Mike break down the most jaw-dropping stats from the 2025 season, discuss player values, rookie performances, coaching changes, and deliver candid advice for fantasy managers. Their unique blend of sharp analysis and humor is in full force as they examine how metrics and narratives shape our love— and skepticism— for emerging fantasy stars.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Football Valentines – Early Fantasy Crushes for 2026

Timestamp: 09:00–14:45
The hosts kick off with a Valentine’s Day-inspired segment, naming players they’re enamored with heading into 2026 drafts:

• Harold Fannin Jr. (TE, Browns)

  • Mike’s crush: The “overlooked rookie” who outperformed bigger-name tight ends despite competition and shifting depth charts. Mike says, “He just gets it done ... I feel like this team’s really going to be built around him.” (09:13)
  • Acknowledges volatility at QB, but believes Fannin is being undervalued compared to rookies Loveland and Warren.

• Malik Nabers (WR, Saints)

  • Andy’s crush: A “dynamic, explosive player” whose first season felt incomplete due to injuries and instability at quarterback. “It does not make fantasy football better when Malik Neighbors is off the field.” (11:03)
  • Amarion Hampton (RB, Panthers): Andy notes we “never really got a prolonged exposure to what he’s capable of,” citing injuries and O-line trouble.

• 2025 Rookie RB Class

  • Mike: The RB class showed “flashes” of talent, but hampered by injuries. Cites hope for Judkins, Henderson, and “blips” from Hampton as reasons to remain optimistic (13:18).

• Chase Brown, Quentin Johnston, Trey Harris

  • Jason: Highlights Brown (“at the back of the second round ... tough decision vs. Derrick Henry”), and intrigue in value WRs Johnston and Harris, especially if team situations evolve.

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2. Shocking Stats from 2025 – Segment Breakdown

Dak Prescott: The Win/Loss Fantasy Rollercoaster

Timestamp: 28:36–35:11

• Andy’s stat: Dak had “the widest fantasy points per game gap between wins and losses of any top QB ever.”
  • In wins: 24.0 PPG (elite), in losses: 12.7 PPG.
  • Andy compares Dak’s 10-year stats to Drew Brees' (“shockingly comparable”), emphasizing Dak’s underappreciation:

    “From a production standpoint, Dak has been regularly great, rarely praised.” (29:44)

  • Mike: “That’s a Dallas Cowboys issue ... the franchise is not taken super serious right now ... It’s not fair to Dak.” (33:27)
  • Consensus: Dak is “awesome for fantasy,” but public scrutiny and team performance cloud his legacy.

Ashton Genti: Volume vs. Big Plays

Timestamp: 35:25–42:24

• Stat: Genti had 321 touches but only six plays of 20+ yards—matching Austin Hooper’s 21-touch, 6-big-play stat!
  • Brings up Trent Richardson comparisons (“volume masked things like this”).
  • 60% of Genti’s runs went for three or fewer yards.
  • Jason: Points to terrible O-line and coaching, referencing Najee Harris' rookie inefficiency (40:03).

    “They gotta fix the run scheme ... Pete Carroll’s kid running the offensive line was a Nepo fail.” (40:59, Mike)

  • New coach Kubiak and O-line improvements might vault Genti higher for 2026. Andy notes, "He finished RB12 on the worst team in football!" (38:10)

Rookies’ Low Yards Per Carry

• Top-25 RBs with lowest YPC were mostly 2025 rookies (Genti, RJ Harvey, Judkins, Woody Marks). “Four lowest yards per carry were rookies.” (39:22)
• Caution, but there’s context—bad O-lines, rookie QBs.

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3. Rookie Tight End Quirks

Timestamp: 43:27–48:26

• Tyler Warren: “62% of his fantasy points came in the first half”—starts hot, disappears late.
  • “You turn the game on and Warren … you’re gonna be like, oh, he’s finishing … and then he didn’t do anything else.” (44:27, Mike)
• Colston Loveland: “42% of points in the 4th”—slow starts, big finishes.
• Harold Fannin Jr.: Quietly consistent, “was still ahead [of Warren and Loveland] … in the second half of the year.” (44:18)
• Loveland’s playoff rise: Target share of 33.8% when all major WRs healthy—a bullish sign. “That’s an outrageously high number.” (46:12, Mike)
• Take: “All three pass the eye test, it’s like 3A, B, and C to me.” (48:00, Andy)
• Interesting stat: Caleb Williams had the 2nd most 4th-quarter/OT TD passes in the NFL; Matthew Stafford was #1.

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4. News & Notable Quotes

Raiders’ Wide Receiver Targets – Alec Pierce & Rashid Shaheed

Timestamp: 17:31–18:33

• “They seem like the most Raiders signings ever ... not complete wide receivers, extremely fast, deep threats.” – Andy
• If Pierce lands there, rookie QB plus big-play-only WR: “The most problematic possible [fantasy] signing for a rookie quarterback ever.” (19:20)

Bucky Irving as Bijan Lite

Timestamp: 19:53–22:20

• Bucs OC Zach Robinson likens Irving to Bijan Robinson for pass-game usage.
• “It’s mostly irrelevant ... He’s not Bijan ... but you want him on the field ... It’s encouraging.” (20:24, Mike)
• Bucky’s ADP: RB14, sandwiched between Hall and Walker.

Steelers, Jets, & QB Play

• Steelers: “Passed on average 2.97 yards short of the sticks—the lowest in 10 years” (50:01).
  • 67% of passing yards after the catch. “My initial reaction: most Aaron Rodgers stat ever. … Bro, throw to the sticks.” (50:29, Jason)
• Jets: “Trailing on 93% of offensive snaps ... last in rushing plays inside the 5 for third straight year.” (52:20)
  • “J-E-T-S—sucks, sucks, sucks!” (52:31, Mike)
  • On future QBs: “Over/under 275 targets for Garrett Wilson?” “Give me Tua!” (53:23)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Dak Prescott:

  “From a production standpoint, Dak has been regularly great, rarely praised.” (29:44, Andy)
  “If you give Dak [these stats] plus one Super Bowl, it changes everything.” (34:01, Mike)

• On Ashton Genti’s Unusual Stat:

  “Ashton Genti touched the ball 321 times. Six plays of 20+ yards. Austin Hooper touched the ball 21 times. Six plays of 20+ yards.” (35:25, Andy)
  “That’s a funny stat.” (35:56, Jason)

• On the Steelers’ Passing Game:

  “They threw the ball almost 3 yards short of the sticks on average. Bro, throw to the sticks.” (50:01, Jason)

• AFC Problem Teams (Jets, Cardinals, Browns):

  “They’re like teams stuck inside a maze and somebody hands them a map and the map’s just gibberish.” (55:07, Andy)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Fantasy Valentines/Crushes: 09:00–14:45
• Dak Prescott Win/Loss Stat Debate: 28:36–35:11
• Ashton Genti/Big Play Drought: 35:25–42:24
• Rookie TE Quirks: 43:27–48:26
• Rapid-Fire Shocking Stats (Steelers, Jets, Loveland, Metcalf, etc.): 48:32–55:07

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Flow & Tone

As always, the episode is peppered with laughs, sarcasm, and friendly ribbing, but grounded in actionable, stats-driven fantasy advice. The hosts debate and encourage critical thinking—when to buy into hype, when to trust context, and the importance of process over results. Memorable moments include running jokes about “reaction videos” (27:12) and acknowledging the quirks and heartbreaks of following troubled franchises.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a must-listen for fantasy managers prepping for the 2026 season, offering fresh takes on undervalued players, cautionary tales from the stats that matter, and deeper discussions around narratives that can cloud our judgment. The Footballers keep it both informative and fun—reminding listeners to look beyond surface stats and to always seek the "why" behind the numbers.

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Next Week:
A rookie review show and the highly-anticipated Mock Draft first round!

Source: [Fantasy Footballers Podcast – February 12, 2026]

Transcript

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, andy Holloway. Thursday, February 12th we welcome you into the show. Happy to have you with us. And talk some fantasy football today.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's good.

[Andy Holloway]

And talk a little bit of little Valentine's crushes. I don't know, something. Something thematic with the holiday.

[Jason Moore]

Very timely. Is Ken Walker still the super bowl mvp?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Probably for a while.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably about a year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't think of it that way.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you a reigning super bowl mvp?

[Jason Moore]

I. I think you are.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. You are, technically. That's good for us, Jason. That won't be brought up again. This will be the last time we hear about it.

[Mike Wright]

Honestly, I doubt we hear that as much as the reigning champion that he is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm guessing that comes out more than the Ken Walker, which is way worse.

[Jason Moore]

How?

[Andy Holloway]

I guess I'm curious. You know, we all have varying degrees of interest in fantasy football in our extended families. And I know, you know, my wife is. She's not into fantasy football. She's not into the NFL. She's happy to oblige Al Borland when he calls her up and says, do you want to hop on the show and congratulate. Don't talk him rap for his title last year. Not the champion anymore, of course, but, like, how much does your wife understand how good the year was for you in football is what I want to know. I. I've.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I tried to express it. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think I was dancing through the house pants.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, and my. My video out in the street with the fireworks, like, she filmed it. She was filming. And the Whole the kids were in on the act and everything. But I don't think she realizes how good I. I've said I was like, when, you know, like after the McCaffrey day of thing, I was like, this was the. This was the best year of my professional life in terms of, you know, giving advice and me taking my own advice, but. So I don't know if she really knows, but I.

[Andy Holloway]

Just curious. I'm just curious how much she just.

[Jason Moore]

Cared that I didn't lose in the championship.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was going to say.

[Mike Wright]

That's for her sake.

[Andy Holloway]

They notice when losses happen. Yeah, but do they know the depths of your victories?

[Jason Moore]

The fireworks let her know that I won.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty good. Pretty good reason. The Ultimate Draft Kit preorder available now, lowest possible price. Some amazing preorder bonuses, including a chance to win a listener league spot to play with us in 2026. All available@ultimate draft kit.com if you get the UDK plus or the ultimate subscription, you will get instant access to the Dynasty Pass and all of our Dynasty startup rankings and content that we have up there right now, including our initial pre draft rookie rankings. The draft is not that far away.

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

But not that close either. You know, we got a little bit. We got a little bit of time to breathe.

[Mike Wright]

The combine is less than two weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, yeah, you're right.

[Jason Moore]

Combine and then the insane.

[Andy Holloway]

I know the NFL doesn't let you take a break.

[Jason Moore]

The running back free agent period where like I be like, George Pickens will get franchised. So I mean, we'll have.

[Mike Wright]

I like that. It's just the running back free agent.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's what I mean, what are.

[Andy Holloway]

You going to call it? The Rasheed Shahid period of the year?

[Jason Moore]

Alec Pierce is. I think he's a very interesting player and he could end up somewhere about.

[Mike Wright]

David Najoku and Kyle Pitts.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, okay.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Well, I care about Kyle Pitts actually.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like maybe Nijoku cards. Nijoku's world is sort of closing.

[Jason Moore]

He could go somewhere and be fascinating.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, fascinating is fine. I can deal with fascinating, but yeah. Alec Pierce, Rashid Shahid. No matter who signs him, there's no point that we're going to be blown away with the significance of that sign. It will be fascinating. But it's not the game breaker superstar signings that were like. It's ETN and Breeze hall and Ken Walker that are super interesting. Ken Walker. I think it was the parade this morning where John Schneider was talking about.

[Jason Moore]

He tried to make A joke about him negotiating.

[Andy Holloway]

It didn't land premise.

[Jason Moore]

Good execution of joke. Very boring.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The solo cup had to do with that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I was going to say. I don't think he was in his sharpest mind state.

[Andy Holloway]

What a tradition we have where like after someone wins a Super bowl or a championship, see that we get them progressively intoxicated over the course of the parade route until you speak at the end. Speak at the beginning.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Mike Wright]

You really need to. It needs to be for Brady throwing.

[Andy Holloway]

This, throwing the tire on the boat.

[Jason Moore]

Being shuffled by multiple people falling over.

[Mike Wright]

It's like, let me put my hand up there, Tom, so you can walk.

[Andy Holloway]

That's funny, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was. It's fun. You're right. They should talk at the beginning and then do like a big circle parade and at the end they just scream.

[Andy Holloway]

And shout and wave and go get into their Ubers.

[Jason Moore]

There were some very funny Sam Darnold T shirts. If you did not see those. I saw it on K Adam show it still. It was a. Hey, it was a delightful T shirt. It really lets. It sends their message.

[Andy Holloway]

It is an incredible story that Sam Darnold has written.

[Jason Moore]

Seriously.

[Andy Holloway]

Because Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson haven't reached the Super Bowl, Sam Darnold goes from seeing ghosts to getting kicked out of a place where he won 14 games, not brought back. We have a quick question of the day.

[Jason Moore]

How many. You know the video you're watching in the back of Deuce's eye, we can hear the sound, right?

[Mike Wright]

Can you not figure out how?

[Jason Moore]

Can you not figure out how to stop the video?

[Mike Wright]

There's a video.

[Jason Moore]

What are you clowns doing? Is that your phone? Your phone?

[Andy Holloway]

Do you understand the heart rate situation back there now?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. They were. Andy said triggered Siri to start playing.

[Jason Moore]

Something on my phone.

[Mike Wright]

I heard it say something about Kendrick Lamar is playing on Spotify.

[Andy Holloway]

The first thing I heard, I thought it was Matt talking and he's just.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't.

[Andy Holloway]

And I assume it was bathroom break related. That's never happened before. So remember when you tell us to mute ourselves?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, let me check that real quick. I mean, like he's a Super bowl winner and how many. And they. I don't know if this is a Kyle question, if we can even get the answer right now, but like he won 14 games back to back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Like that in itself is an accomplishment.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And Colin Coward, I think was trying to be, you know, Colin Coward and have the big question of like, what other quarterback would you even start a franchise with? Right. Now over Sam Darnold because of Sam Darnold's two seasons of.

[Jason Moore]

Stop it.

[Andy Holloway]

But it was a point. The only point that landed with that conversation was what you just said. You look at the last 30 games Sam Donald has started.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And you have to just, I don't know, give him his flowers.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been, it's been amazing.

[Jason Moore]

Now I just want to find an image of Sam Darnold in a backwards hat.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, go for it because coward.

[Jason Moore]

Will lose his mind. Oh, man. It's only forward hats, guys.

[Mike Wright]

He's a coward guy.

[Andy Holloway]

He's that kind of a leader. Watch this, watch this. Leader.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Not a leader.

[Mike Wright]

You're not the host here.

[Andy Holloway]

Leader hooligan.

[Jason Moore]

Can't do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't work backwards. Quick question of the day. Do you have an early fantasy football crush for 2026? Like I said, we'll play into the Valentine's Day. Is there somebody that right out of the gate here? Maybe you didn't get to see him on the field a bunch last year. Maybe you did and you just liked the opportunity. But is there an early fantasy football crush for 2026 that you want to talk about on February 12th?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm going to. We just talked about David Ajoku. He is not my fantasy crush, but he was in the way of my fantasy Crush. Harold Fannin Jr. Rookie sensation who is really, really overlooked for what he did because right now in most consensus boards he's the third most important rookie. He's the third most desirable rookie in dynasty leagues. And I'll bet in drafts next year he gets drafted.

[Jason Moore]

You mean out of the position?

[Mike Wright]

Out of. Yes, out of the tight ends. Because you had, man, he really moved up the rankings. No, because you had Colson Loveland, you had Tyler Warren who are the higher drafted, you know, first round draft capital in the NFL draft. Supposed to be awesome. And Harold Fannin, the tight end, five on the season in his rookie year, outscored both of them, was dealing with Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel and David Joku in the way and he just got it done. Similar how he did in college where it's like, I don't know, the competition is this. He runs duck footed and it's just, he just gets it done. And now I feel like this is a team that's really going to be built towards him, around him. Hopefully they bring in some better quarterback competition. But even if they don't.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't think that they can.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I mean they can in the sense. I know you don't want to hear it, but DeSean Watson is going to be part of this team. He is going to be battling for the, for the coaching or, you know, for the quarterback position. And he's just got to battle Shador Sanders. So it should get better than rookie Shador Sanders either way. My point is, I think he is.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you watch the Sean Watson play?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I take rookie, but I watched Shador Sanders play too.

[Andy Holloway]

I take rookie Shador Sanders and they, I mean, they did talk about drafting a quarterback highly. I mean, that's been in the the news around Cleveland. To do that again, I mean, you're going up like I. No disrespect to Fan and he's awesome as a talent, but I'm much more confident in the stability of those other two guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So right now Harold Fannin is tight in five and best ball. So he is being respected by the.

[Andy Holloway]

Drafters in my opinion.

[Jason Moore]

He. According to Jason, he's still being disrespected as because he's behind who's disrespecting him. So right now it's McBride, Bowers.

[Andy Holloway]

I haven't seen that.

[Jason Moore]

I felt like Loveland Warren and then Fannin.

[Andy Holloway]

Everybody else has a crush on him too.

[Mike Wright]

What I'm saying is specific to the three rookies from last year. Generally speaking, Loveland and Tyler Warren are seen as more valuable and higher fantasy assets than Fanon. I don't know that that's actually true.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. My fantasy football early crushes for 2026 Malik neighbors.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Who we did not get to see enough of last year. But with the new regime, Jackson Dart, year two, some stability for him. I'm excited about Malik Neighbors. I, you know, we lost a handful of players last year. It does not make fantasy football better when Malik Neighbors is off the field. He's an exciting, explosive player. And then Amari and Hampton, who I feel like this season kind of feels like it never really started for Hampton. It was just like, you know, you began the year. Najee Harris was going to get the opportunities. He gets knocked out. Hampton starts to get going, he gets knocked out. They come back, their offensive line is beat up. I just feel like we never really got a prolonged exposure to what he's capable of doing for the team. And so I'm very excited about that.

[Mike Wright]

With Mike McDaniels, it was actually that way for Did I do it again? Yeah, you did it again.

[Andy Holloway]

This is 100% your fault.

[Mike Wright]

I know.

[Andy Holloway]

I had no problem with this for my whole Life.

[Mike Wright]

To my credit, I am proud that I have made you say Mike McDaniels. It's really outside of Ash and Genti who obviously his situation is going to change quite a bit. I think Kubiak coming in could improve that. But the entire rookie running back draft class from 2025, which was one of the better ones to come out in recent memory chock full of talent and almost all of them showed that talent but almost always just for a little. You saw a blip of it. Like Hampton didn't get hurt, Judkins got hurt. You had Henderson have his.

[Jason Moore]

He was only in charge of incredible.

[Mike Wright]

Middle of the season and then scatter Boo. Yes. Oh, that's still too soon.

[Andy Holloway]

Still too soon. No, you're right. That is a good point.

[Mike Wright]

So it's like I'm actually really hopeful for the 2025 rookie running backs next year.

[Andy Holloway]

That makes sense. By the way, we are talking about Genti on today's show. We're doing shocking stats. We're also talking about not fan and Warren and Loveland.

[Jason Moore]

The Chase Brown continues to be on my list of he's going as in best ball where there's wide receivers are definitely propped up but he's at the back of the second round and he's behind like Derek Henry or Chase Brown. I think it will be a tough decision. And then same teams, Chargers like Quentin Johnston and Trey Harris to me are going to be really interesting drafts because neither of them will likely end up being drafted extremely high. They will be value wide receivers and like I mean the two seasons that Q just put together are like solid seasons now. It didn't go forever because of the offensive line problems. And then it's will Trey Harris who showed up in flashes, will he be a full time starter now after being a second round pick last year? Like does Keenan Allen leave the team and what is, what does McDaniel do? Like who is. Who does McDaniel see as the true field stretcher? Like huge has been that guy. But maybe he looks at Trey Harris.

[Andy Holloway]

And said no, it's actually McDan.

[Jason Moore]

We can just call him Mike Mcd. I mean that might make it easier for you but one of those guys will be the field stretcher. So I think that'll be a fun off season thing as we're trying to get information on it.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk a little news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

You like Mike McD's that's dangerous tight end David Najoku scheduled to be a free agent announced he will not return to the team. He made a big post about goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Cleveland should do or hey Cleveland, go to Cleveland. Remember when they could have traded David Najoku at the trade deadline and got.

[Mike Wright]

Something hot commodity and you had the.

[Jason Moore]

You had his replacement ready.

[Andy Holloway]

Making a big playoff push, man.

[Jason Moore]

Goodness gracious. This team.

[Andy Holloway]

Shador Sanders will get quote Runway to be the number one quarterback for the summer and early fall. That was also the article that talked about them drafting a quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

What about late fall? Just we'll give him some Runway. Like I don't. Pretty early. It's weird. Like specifically early fall.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you guys. You guys absolutely hate him?

[Jason Moore]

I he.

[Mike Wright]

His play was nothing to do with him.

[Andy Holloway]

His play. His play was not always bad.

[Jason Moore]

It was.

[Andy Holloway]

He had bad games and he had bad stretches but he also had very good stretches at times.

[Jason Moore]

He does have a lot of talent. He has a lot of physical tools. But I just, I don't. When he, when things go bad for.

[Andy Holloway]

Him, you don't think he can develop though. I mean you've seen bad rookie years. This was a player that was at one point a top five pick.

[Jason Moore]

Right?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not, I'm not saying he will reach that and he certainly probably won't reach it in Cleveland. I understand all of that. I'm just saying that players look bad early in their career and they're definitely going to look bad in Cleveland earlier in their career. I just, you know, it's not like this dude practiced as to be a starter for the first half of the year, but it was. I just wonder if there should be a little bit more optimism around the potential that he's their future versus Watson or a rookie.

[Jason Moore]

He just like his advanced analytics talking.

[Andy Holloway]

About Pro bowler should do a shadow.

[Jason Moore]

His advanced analytics are catastrophically bad. And me all my, you know, look, I fantasies in my bio, I don't know what I'm talking about but everything bad that I saw Shador do or when I was scouting him, he fell right back into all those really bad habits. Always backing up, never getting into the pocket, creating. It's all I'm saying when his mistake, when he makes a mistake, it's a bad mistake and it's just like it's a drive killer. So do they have the people in place to fix it? It's not impossible because of the physical tools, but it will take a lot of work to get him where he needs to be.

[Andy Holloway]

ESPN Ryan McFadden reporting comically to me. Alec Pierce, Rashid Shahid are on the radar for the Raiders. Both of those Players seem like the most Raiders signings ever to me. I mean, Alec Pierce, Rashid Shahid, both of those players to me are not complete wide receivers. They're both extremely fast, deep threats. I'm not sure if I'm a football team, which player I'd rather have between those two, if I'm honest with you.

[Jason Moore]

I think, yeah, it's tough because Shahid can do special teams.

[Andy Holloway]

That's it. It's like Shahid, I think brings probably more total to your team with less production that you see on a stat sheet probably, or certainly in a fantasy football stat sheet. But maybe is the more valuable player. But this is where we're at. I mean, if these guys go, one of them goes to the Raiders and we're talking about, let's say Pierce goes to the Raiders. I don't think we're like, none of us are excited about this situation. You've got other players there already. Bowers is going to be the primary target. You've got a rookie quarterback, say.

[Jason Moore]

Betting against wide receivers for rookie quarterbacks is a very winning strategy. It doesn't always work. Sometimes they actually do come through, but the bet has been really strong. So year one, I would not be interested. But Mendoza, Mendoza looks like he could be a real quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you know that this last season was Alec Pierce's career high in receptions? Do you remember the number?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I mean it was. Is he in the 40s? He is.

[Andy Holloway]

He's in the 40s. He made the 40s. That is.

[Mike Wright]

He had a thousand yards.

[Andy Holloway]

That's literally the most problematic.

[Mike Wright]

What's 1,000 divided by 20?

[Andy Holloway]

He had a thousand yards and 47 receptions.

[Jason Moore]

He is very.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's just the most fewest receptions.

[Jason Moore]

For a thousand yard season since 1990.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's the most problematic possible signing for a rookie quarterback ever.

[Jason Moore]

It reminds me of like the early seasons of Deshaun Jackson where the volume wasn't there but it was always big plays.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Which he can do. It's just harder to do. We looked at that rookie quarterback study a while back. I think Kyle just.

[Jason Moore]

Kyle just popped it up. Desean Jackson 47 for 1056.

[Andy Holloway]

So he's. That was the all time highest with under 50 receptions.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean it reminds me exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Desean Jackson, because it was almost an identical season. Same receptions, almost the same yards. It just both those guys would scare the tarnation out of me for Dynasty and for like, I don't know, Pierce could end up somewhere much better. Obviously this was interesting. Zach Robinson, the new Buccaneers Offensive coordinator because they collect a new one every year. But this one, you know, we respect what Zach Robinson brings to the table. Says he sees Bucky Irving in a very similar light to Bijan Robinson with what he can do in the passing game.

[Mike Wright]

Zachary, I mean, that's a kind comment. Yeah, Zach, I mean, look, it's good to hear your OC to be relate you to a superstar simply from a workload perspective. You want him on the field, you want him catching passes. This is a good comment. It's mostly irrelevant. He's not Bijan. I don't think anybody's out there saying Bucky and Bijon are, you know, interchangeable.

[Jason Moore]

He.

[Mike Wright]

It's still good though. You don't want. You could have someone come in and say, you know, I think he's so talented. He's going to be, you know, I'm going to work him in as part of a great, talented core of running backs. Remember Aaron Glenn when he got to the jets and was talking about how great their running back room was? Because he's talking up the backups and, you know, it wasn't just Breeze being the special player. And it's like, I would much rather hear this. Tell me how special you are.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, he's on, he's on pace for 51 receptions last year.

[Jason Moore]

Rashad White is a free agent.

[Mike Wright]

Rashad White did the David Ajoku thing and basically posted.

[Jason Moore]

Did he? That I'm out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that I'm out.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, that's the most encouraging thing to me is that if you're comparing him to a guy that catches a ton of passes out of the backfield and we, we looked at the truth of the running back position earlier this off season and it was a really down year for running back receptions. That's the only. I don't think he's Bijan, but it's encouraging to me that you're talking about Bucky Irving to be your pass catching specialist. That's super encouraging.

[Jason Moore]

Bucky's. Bucky's weird, man. He's in this nebulous area of like, not. People aren't quite sure what to do with him.

[Andy Holloway]

So his points per game were almost the exact same as last year, but he only scored one touchdown and he scored eight last year.

[Jason Moore]

He.

[Andy Holloway]

He seems like a steal.

[Jason Moore]

He could be here in best ball in ADP right now. Running back 14 is Breece hall, then it's Ken Bone Walker, then it's Bucky. Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

So two guys that don't have teams, right? Yeah, it's. I think I Think Bucky is sneakily. I mean, with one touchdown, I know he missed time, but one touchdown on the ground, there's some positive regression. Giants are hiring Brian Callahan to be their quarterback coach.

[Mike Wright]

Some disagreements internally on whether this is good or bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Internally here, not with their team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Mike, I know you are not a fan of Brian Callahan and what he did at his Titans.

[Jason Moore]

I was looking directly at the Titans, and Cam Ward seemingly got much better overnight. Overnight when Brian Callahan was fired. And that feels bad when you're supposed to be in an offensive guru type of a coach when the team improves. Not. Not over a course of a few games. It was like we started camp watching Camborg, like, oh, maybe it's not just a disaster here.

[Mike Wright]

The nice thing, though, is that maybe Callahan is not greatly equipped to be the play designer and play caller and have too much fall on his shoulders. But he's being hired as a quarterback's coach. You know, he's not the offensive coordinator or the head coach or the play caller.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty good offensive coordinator for five years with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I. I think it's pretty. Some of these guys can't. Aren't equipped to be a head coach. The pressure was on. The screws were. He knew he was potentially on the way out. I don't know. Rookie quarterbacks get better over time, Mike. I mean.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

It just seemed overnight.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was. He didn't. Did not do the job in Tennessee. But I am not. I'm not too freaked out about this. I'd be happier if you told me Cliff Kingsbury had signed that contract there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's also a combination of. It starts with Matt Nagy where you're like, oh. And then call him like, oh, you got double. Yeah. Double groans going on for the Giants offensive hires.

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[Mike Wright]

And you can just prop your phone up on the table.

[Andy Holloway]

We could do like a YouTube video segment.

[Jason Moore]

Oh oh dude. Favorite video from Jeremy's phone. You know what I'm so jealous of for other content creators?

[Andy Holloway]

What's that?

[Jason Moore]

The reaction videos.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we never get to react to.

[Jason Moore]

Other like hey, you know there's this video that that went viral or someone really put in a lot of work. How about a video? Me watching that video.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

What, what were you watching back? Sign me up.

[Mike Wright]

Kendrick Lamar halftime show apparently.

[Jason Moore]

Fine, I'll watch Lamar.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we'll let you know what we think.

[Mike Wright]

And you can watch us watching Lamar.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, a double.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

When do we get into the. The watcher of the watcher.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what he's saying.

[Mike Wright]

Well, no, that he's. Mike's taking it one more level.

[Jason Moore]

I'm saying Jason watches a video of me watching.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Kendrick Lamar.

[Mike Wright]

I actually.

[Andy Holloway]

And reacting. Is he reacting to your reaction?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I want to watch.

[Andy Holloway]

He cannot react to the original video. I can react to your reaction.

[Jason Moore]

It's a review of the review.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna watch an audience watching your reaction video. And I'll react to the crowd.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

They're oohing.

[Andy Holloway]

This is good.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no, they're booing.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's jump in.

[Jason Moore]

How'd you do that?

[Mike Wright]

It's actually. I'm not even mad.

[Jason Moore]

That's amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're gonna bounce around a little bit. We have the team here has. Has pulled out a handful of number.

[Jason Moore]

Four will shock you.

[Andy Holloway]

Shocking. I'm starting with number four.

[Jason Moore]

No, you can't start with the number that I need.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I want to talk about first.

[Jason Moore]

That's fine because I meant number seven. Yeah. Will shake you to your bones.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll call this Dak the loser.

[Jason Moore]

I don't care.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no.

[Jason Moore]

Very nice.

[Andy Holloway]

I actually want to have a conversation about Dak beyond even this shocking stat. But here is the stat. Dak Prescott had the widest fantasy points per game gap of between wins and losses of any top quarterback ever. So when he won, when they won the Cowboys, he was 24 points a game. And that is pure elite fantasy production. When they lost, it was 12.7 points a game. So we know how much a blessing the Dallas defense was to our existence. The other, like, side conversation about Dak is I saw a first. Is it 10 years now for Dak? Can you check that for me? I think he's right around the 10 year mark as a quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So 2016 was his first year. So this will be his 10th season. If you go look side by side at the statistics, It'll be his 11th season. What year is it?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, this will. He has.

[Jason Moore]

You have to count the six he has finished. You got to count ten. Zero.

[Andy Holloway]

I got you. I got you. If you look at the first 10 years of Drew Brees and the first 10 years of Dak Prescott and you put their numbers next to each other. Drew Brees, renowned, well thought of hall of Famer, now hall of Famer, and you look at what Dak has done in his first 10 years. And the numbers are shockingly comparable.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Not to mention.

[Jason Moore]

Careful saying these things.

[Andy Holloway]

Not to mention. I believe that. I believe Breeze through significantly more interceptions than Dak has. So we don't look at those two players at all in the same way. It seems like whenever Dak succeeds, we try to hitch his victory wagon to some other cause. It's not Dak. Right. It's. Well, he's got CD or he's got. You know, for a while, it was.

[Jason Moore]

What, Des.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, yeah, Des. But the running Ezekiel Elliott.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, or the offensive line. Right. Remember how long the offensive line was? I guess it was just a way of saying, from a production standpoint, Dak has been regularly great, rarely praised. And here we have another season where these disparities are wild. Like, you could start Dak this year in fantasy, and it would be not worth it at all. There were nine games in which you were like, whoops. And then there were seven games in which he was an absolute difference maker.

[Jason Moore]

He. When he has played 16 games, he's finished in the top 12 and often finishing much higher than.

[Andy Holloway]

How many times has he played 16 games? I'm just not. Not a gotcha. I'm just curious.

[Jason Moore]

Seven. There are. Yeah. So seven times he's completed the season and three times he's been out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, it's just. I think we're going to always have this conversation with Dak about what he truly represents for.

[Jason Moore]

It's fantasy football, and it's hard. It's hard being the Cowboys quarterback. In terms of the scrutiny put on to you. Like, I was, you know, did not talk about the commentary stuff, but Tony Romo, the player. Tony Romo, the quarterback was a very.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he was.

[Jason Moore]

He had. He has, unfortunately, one of the biggest gaffes in football history of botching the snap. And it's like that stains the. But, dude, Tony Romo was great and Dak Prescott is great.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to actually give you the numbers, please, with Breeze, if you don't mind. So this is 10 seasons. This is 139 games played for Dak and 138 games played for Drew Brees.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Dak has a better record as a starting quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

83 and 55. Brees was 79 and 58. Higher completion percentage goes to that one.

[Jason Moore]

No way.

[Andy Holloway]

That's Dak. 60.9%.

[Mike Wright]

Breeze was breaking records.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, later on. But first 10 years, 65% passing yards. Dak. More passing yards, passing touchdowns. Dakota by eight interceptions, 92 for Dak 132 for Drew Brees in that span. Not. And that doesn't even, like, give him any credit for being the four times.

[Mike Wright]

The rusher that Breeze was, you know, on the ground. Dak was way better.

[Jason Moore]

When did Breeze change teams? What year?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it was early. It was really early. I can give you that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because in my head, I'm like, he was a.

[Andy Holloway]

He was a charge.

[Mike Wright]

While you look that up.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

He was that long.

[Andy Holloway]

He was. He was a charger for. Yeah, longer than I thought. He had played four years there as a starter. Five years total. So again, his record breaking, like, completion percentage years go well beyond his 10th season when he. I mean, his last four years. 72, 74. 74. 70.

[Mike Wright]

I think the issue.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you, Michael Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

The issue with Dak Prescott is the same as what you were bringing up with Tony Roma.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a.

[Mike Wright]

It's a Dallas Cowboys issue.

[Jason Moore]

They are never winning playoff games.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I mean. The franchise is not taken super serious right now. They haven't been in an NFC championship game in longer than every other NFC team by like triple. Almost everybody. And it's like a Jerry Jones problem. If you were to give Dak, with those stats one Super Bowl. He won a Super bowl four years ago.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It changes everything.

[Jason Moore]

Everything.

[Andy Holloway]

Everything of your perception about him, for sure.

[Mike Wright]

And I don't think that's fair to Dak.

[Andy Holloway]

He.

[Mike Wright]

You know, to be honest, for the last several years, we've. I feel like we've been a very pro. Dak.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

As a player group. He is not given the fantasy, not given the credit that he deserves. Awesome. For fantasy. Yeah. I don't think he's ever not finished as a quarterback. 1. If you finish the season.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

So I'm, I'm on team Dak. The wins and losses thing, it's a. It's a, you know, it's an interesting stat, but it's not really that indicative. Like, it's not against good defenses or against bad defenses. Obviously, you would expect to score fewer points in the games you lose because you scored fewer points than your opponent. But there's also the weird games this season where, you know, like week one, Dak played great move the ball against the super bowl champion Eagles. And then Javante got all the touchdowns. They lost that game by a few, but they scored a lot of points.

[Andy Holloway]

I think the highlight there is just that it was the biggest gap ever for a quarterback that finished as high as he did. And then you didn't get. Clearly, you didn't like some garbage time. Special stuff from Dak this year. Otherwise maybe those even out a little bit better. We'll see what the defense can do next year. I'm trying to decide what I want to go with for the second one. I think I want to have the Genty discussion. So our second shocking stat. Let me see if I can pull it up here.

[Jason Moore]

I don't remember where.

[Andy Holloway]

Where is that one?

[Jason Moore]

It's number five. Number five.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just right next to it. This one's called where's the big play. So Ashton Genti touched the ball 321 times. That's a lot. Six plays of 20 plus yards. This next part is going to hurt. Austin Hooper touched the ball 21 times, so 300 fewer times. Six plays of 20 plus yards. You cannot hear stuff like that. And not if you've been in the fantasy football world.

[Jason Moore]

That's a funny stat.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that one's ridiculous, Kyle. If you've been in the fantasy football world for enough time, you just can't look at the Genti season and not have in the back of your mind somewhere. You see, I haven't told either what I'm going to say, but you might already know it, but Trent Richardson has.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, that's the name.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that's the name in the back of your head because the volume masked things like this. Now the very end of the year, there were. There were a couple big plays by Genti that I think were truly special. But it is in the back of your head. 60% of his runs went for three yards or fewer. I am excited about Kubiak arriving.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm excited about them having, you know, Mendoza stabilize that position. They had the worst quarterback in football this year. I genuinely think that. I think Gino was worse than Shador this year. I think he was the single most detrimental offensive player for any team. Poor Pete Carroll.

[Mike Wright]

The record would bear that out.

[Andy Holloway]

So. But Ashton Genti, let's talk about him for a second. I'm not going to hold it against him that he got that many opportunities. That's a good thing. If he didn't get that many opportunities and he was this inefficient, I think we would be talking bust slash fears.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, yeah. If he was, if he was someone that touched the ball 240 times this year and was as inefficient that would be, you know, he wouldn't be drafted in the top 15 running backs at all going into next season. The fact that at the end of the season he had a couple big breakaway plays, breakaway games. His single game against the Houston Texans where he did have a 60 yard touchdown reception, where he had a 51 yard carry against a great defense, was like, that's him. That's the guy that, you know, we drafted high in fantasy that the Raiders drafted high in the NFL draft. Honestly, the change over as a whole quarterback, offensive mind, play caller Kubiak coming in, it's going to forgive a lot of, you know, the problems that he experienced this last year. I think everything will be forgiven and he'll be drafted.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to ask probably higher.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe than he should be.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to read some names to you, if you don't mind. Give me your first initial reaction on who you'd like more or less. I'm looking at the top finishers for last year. By the way, his yards per carry. Just to give you context, one plus for him, he finished at 12 overall. And at 12 overall it was on the worst team in football that gets the number one pick. And we always want running backs with winning teams. So he managed to finish top 12.

[Jason Moore]

Well, winning teams but also running backs. Who had a rookie quarterback start 10 or more games over the last decade, Those running back. The running back one for those teams averaged seven and a half total touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to hear something crazy? Top 25 finishers at running back. The lowest 3 in yards per carry. You ready for him?

[Mike Wright]

Ashton Genti.

[Andy Holloway]

You know Ashton Genti is there, right? There were two at or below his number.

[Jason Moore]

What was he at?

[Andy Holloway]

3.7. Now by the way, number one overall, Christian McCaffrey was 3.9. So that was actually exceptionally low.

[Jason Moore]

Was Barkley sub four?

[Andy Holloway]

Saquon Barkley was not. He was 4.1.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

The other two are rookies.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, how funny.

[Andy Holloway]

RJ Harvey.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Was 3.7.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

And then number 25 on the total list got hurt. Judkins, Quinn, Sean Judkins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Was 3.6 per carry. The three rookies. And guess what, the fourth one is down at 29. Woody marks at 3.6. So literally like out of the top 30 running backs, the four lowest yards for carries were rookies.

[Jason Moore]

The if you want at least some hope.

[Andy Holloway]

And R.G. harvey's offensive line was way better than Jake Harvey is.

[Jason Moore]

Harvey's kind of a scary.

[Andy Holloway]

He's starting to look at like I'm starting to see his career out in front of me in the looking glass, whatever it looks like committee back type of guy.

[Jason Moore]

The if you want at least something hopeful, we're looking at lowest yards before contact per attempt.

[Andy Holloway]

Poor guy.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Very much so. And we're looking at. We've got 14 first round running backs, the oldest one being going back to Ezekiel Elliott. So of the 14 players, lowest yards before contact, aka his. His offensive line is doing nothing to help him. He was last at 1.6. Just in front of him would have been the Najee Harris rookie year, if you remember. Very similar thing to Ashton Genti of volume. Took care of. Care of everything, especially receiving. Now different players because no one confuses Najee. Even rookie Najee, his big playability versus Ashton Genty. Those are very different, very different things. But. So they got to fix the run scheme. I mean, the.

[Andy Holloway]

The fact that.

[Jason Moore]

The fact that we had Pete Carroll's kid running the offensive line.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was a. That was a Nepo fail.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

It's funny because we look at like the Kubiak's.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Nepotism. The Shanahan's. Yeah, Nepotism.

[Jason Moore]

And we're like, floors good.

[Mike Wright]

Give me the hardball.

[Jason Moore]

Have more kids. Give me more Shanahan.

[Mike Wright]

But sometimes it don't work when. Especially when it's your. Your kid who seemingly doesn't deserve it and then gets it as a surprise and then everyone else is fired by him.

[Andy Holloway]

The. You got to remember, like Saquon Barkley was sub four a carry in his final year in New York.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You changed offensive lines and he. He added two yards per carry.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you have the thing where a player like this, on a team like this, they start pressing, they start wanting to hit a ball for that.

[Andy Holloway]

To move him up in your. In your rankings that they.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Offensive line, offensive line is 100%. Could he make top five for you with offensive line move?

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he can because of rookie quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

I think he could get near it for sure. But that. That's what they need to do. They need to go out and trade for a guard, sign a tackle. Like the fact that. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Give me the other positions.

[Mike Wright]

The fact right now we are talking about on today's news that they're really targeting Alec Pierce or Rashid Shahid is like, go and spend some money on, you know, not that, not that.

[Jason Moore]

Just any of the other boring stuff. It's the gross stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at Chicago. You got the money now. Rookie quarterback contract, baby. Make the most of it. All right, we'll take a break and I've got more shocking stats for you.

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, our next one. Let's talk about rookie tight end quirks. All right, we have Tyler Warren, Colston Loveland. We talked about Fannin earlier, so we'll complete the trifecta here. The triforce of rookie tight ends. But Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland seasons did not just end on different notes, right? Warren took over the front half of the season. He looked like maybe you'd have the top tight end again with the bout when Bowers got hurt. For sure, there was a chance that Warren would be the top tight end at the second half of the season. It was Colson Loveland's time. I just looked at, I think the last eight games of the season point for Fannin. Even in that span where Loveland was, I think number five. I think Fan was like four, like in points per game. They were five and six or something. Fannin was still ahead in the second half of the year when Loveland took off. But the interesting thing about Warren and Loveland is that they actually, they even produced in very, very different ways. 62% of Warren's fantasy points came in the first half of the game. Which that made a great impression on us too. You turn the game on and Warren every, every time it was.

[Mike Wright]

It was pretty often, yeah, nicer that way. But it was also pretty often where it's like you, you'd watch what Tyler Warren's doing. You're going to be like, oh, he's finishing. He's the number one tight end this week.

[Andy Holloway]

And then he didn't do anything else.

[Jason Moore]

He's finished playing this week, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. And then 40.

[Mike Wright]

I remember that with Jonathan Taylor, too. It was like the Colts were so good. The first were the first half of this year before Daniel Jones went down.

[Andy Holloway]

The first half of the first halfs too well.

[Mike Wright]

They were so good that they didn't do much of anything in the second half.

[Andy Holloway]

That was brutal. 42% of Loveland's fantasy points came in the fourth quarter. So they completely different. You would start Loveland and go, I would be surprised.

[Jason Moore]

Or maybe that's the wrong word. I would be interested to see what if what percent of Caleb Williams points are scored in the fourth quarter? Because watching Bears games was Kyle probably figured that out. The story of the Bears and Caleb Williams was how do they possibly keep coming back in the fourth quarter. But they did it on the weekly and they did it in the playoffs like this was. They really got to get the first three quarters going.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And I look at those specific disparities for those two guys as incredibly fluky and non prescriptive. Personally, you know Loveland part of what he did. Again we have the fantasy context. They went to the playoffs, they won a game in the playoffs, they played two playoff games. We kept seeing Colston Loveland be an important part of this offense. I think his establishment over the second half, regardless of what time of game the points game is what I'm more looking forward to in the next season where this was the progressive unlocking of a super weapon, in my opinion.

[Mike Wright]

It seemed that way. And I know I've brought up the fact that when Colson Loveland started having his breakout, that was when Roma Dunes A went down to injury and the targets went his way. And it was really a question of when, when everybody's healthy, when Luther Burden is healthy and when Rome is healthy, is Colson Loveland really going to matter? But you're right, Andy. Down the stretch into the playoffs, once they were all healthy, Loveland was their best receiving option, including the wide receivers. Jacob Gibbs on Twitter tweeted this out. There was basically about 100 routes where all three of those guys were on the field together. And on those routes, team target percentage you had Luther Burden at 18.8, Roma Dunes at 20 and Colston Loveland at 33.8, which is an outrageously high number. So I mean that's if you want to be bullish on Loveland. That to me is the stat that says he can be a high target even with everybody healthy and active because he was in the most important time of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

And there was there was a part of this year and this just shows the reactionary sports fantasy culture where the because of his injury we were ridiculing Chicago for the pick. How could you let and look at what Tyler Warren can do? How could you possibly go. And then by the end you're like, well maybe they did their homework. And to me the eye test was passed by all three. All three of those rookies. That's why you put them in order. That's where like I guess me personally, I don't feel a disrespect for Fannin just because I have him third of that bunch because it's like three A, B and C to me.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Or one A, B, C.

[Mike Wright]

We disrespect them all.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess three works because if you want to put McBride in Bowers.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

And then it's three A, B and.

[Mike Wright]

C. It probably is very accurate. I remember early in the off season you came in and you're like dude, I just got asked the question I can't come up with. And it was basically put those three guys in order and the three of us had three completely different orders.

[Jason Moore]

So Kyle looked it up. Caleb, second most passing touchdowns in the fourth quarter in overtime to the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

Spread it out.

[Jason Moore]

Number one was Mr. Stafford.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's interesting. I'm going to read you some more shocking stats. I just want to get your kind of knee jerk reaction to any of them. If there's anything prescriptive for fantasy. If you want to make fun of anybody because of them.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I do.

[Andy Holloway]

Whatever the case may be one that was really cool. It was just Daniel Jones who had gone from the worst quarterback under pressure in his career to apparently the best. He led all quarterbacks and completion percentage when under pressure and in passer rating went under pressure the previous two years. He was basically basement dwelling when it comes to under pressure, pass rating, completion percentage and yards per attempt. And then he was number one, number six in yards per attempt and number one in passer rating.

[Mike Wright]

How I think if we had more numbers, I'm guessing that he was under pressure far less this last year and had opportunities to like get into the game, get into play action, have a lead where he's not spent his career usually having a lead in the pass rush that's coming after him is because it's like oh this is great advantage for the defense. Now he was playing for a team where it's like the advantage was usually on the offense. He was usually leading and they didn't know if they were going to run or pass.

[Andy Holloway]

Desperation when under pressure.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Well said. How about this one, Mike? The 2025 Steelers offense threw the ball on average 2.97 yards short of the first down marker. The lowest I love this stat of any NFL team in 10 years. 67% of Pittsburgh's passing yards came after the catch. This is a simultaneous gut punch to all Metcalf managers and a confusing head scratch to the. We got to get this guy back behind center there.

[Jason Moore]

And Rodgers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The. My initial reaction is this is the most Aaron Rodgers. I get to blame everybody else for the. Like, how did we not get the first down? I completed the pass. You're like, bro, throw to the sticks.

[Andy Holloway]

Wasn't he. Historically, even when he was at his peak, wasn't there a big conversation about not taking certain chances when he had those incredible 37 and 4, like touchdown to interception ratio seasons? Not that I remember this. Like there were times when they, they really. I think it was kind of towards the end of the Green Bay era. He had put up back to back seasons of like 37 and 4 and 38 and 3 or something like that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the, the Ayahuasca years.

[Andy Holloway]

But he wasn't willing. There were certain plays that looked like he left him out on the field because he didn't want to throw that interception. Didn't want to mess up those numbers. Yeah, these numbers that you're talking about with the, the before the sticks, it's like, hey, my completion percentage stays high. My numbers look good as I move into the hall of Fame season.

[Jason Moore]

It's everybody else's fault.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that much is always true.

[Jason Moore]

So I love that.

[Andy Holloway]

Also, he's going to say yes to McCarthy coming back and then he's going to yell at McCarthy all season long.

[Jason Moore]

This is like so it's now framed as like a DK Metcalf question. And I will, I will be out. I will be out. I was, I was dragged in by DK Mike Gaff. I was dragged in by the possibility of Aaron Rodgers, wide receiver 1, getting volume. That volume didn't show up no more.

[Andy Holloway]

Arthur Smith, though. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But DK Metcalf still is who I think he is, which is a good wide receiver. A player I'd like to have on my NFL team, but not paying him. Wide receiver, astronomical contract money.

[Andy Holloway]

Couple wild Jet stats for you. The jets were tighter, trailing on 93% of their offensive snaps. And the jets ranked last in rushing plays inside the 5 for the third consecutive year.

[Mike Wright]

What a fart of a franchise. I am so sorry to jets fans. They are just about the only one I feel for more than us Cardinals and Browns fans. The Jets J E T S sucks, sucks, sucks. I mean they are the worst.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if you know how to spell.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know if the jets know how to spell.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my goodness. Yeah. I mean there's not a lot to go with there other than the fact that Breeze is going to be gone. They did not get inside the five enough to give Breeze opportunities to be elite.

[Mike Wright]

Braylon Allen is still being gone should help him.

[Andy Holloway]

Braylon Allen is still 22 years old. I am curious about what that looks like for the jets next year. Isaiah Davis is also very young. If they don't draft somebody over under.

[Jason Moore]

275 targets for Garrett Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

Who's the quarterback?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, if it's a rookie of Iloa.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, over dude, I would take it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I would. Us struggling the Garrett Wilson hive out there. I know you were with me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Now wait a minute.

[Andy Holloway]

You grade on a scale when it comes to Garrett Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

We would take to a. We absolutely would.

[Mike Wright]

Have you heard the latest rumor for who could play quarterback there? Now that I forget. Forget who they got quarterbacks coach or someone who's good friends with a guy who recently said he would be willing to come out of retirement to play quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Oh, no indeed.

[Andy Holloway]

Bill Musgrave is their new.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Bill Musgrave.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It's their new quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no.

[Mike Wright]

That's the new offensive yes. And friends with Derek Carr.

[Jason Moore]

I'd take Derek Carr.

[Mike Wright]

Really say that. Tell that to Chris Olave. I enjoy your murder balls for Garrett Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

I will tell that to just based off of the current depth charts.

[Mike Wright]

All I know is that if Garrett Wilson has to catch Derek Carr, Garrett Wilson won't survive. No, he won't. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm out on that. Give me two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Because TUA doesn't blow his guys up either.

[Mike Wright]

Throws it so far behind his players they have room to come back and get it.

[Jason Moore]

It's the best way to throw a deep pass.

[Mike Wright]

It really is. I don't understand why it's like not the way. Run a nine and then like when you get to the 10 yard line or where however far, just plant in the. Plant in the. In the turf and come back straight.

[Jason Moore]

Get that PI.

[Mike Wright]

They should just literally have that be a play where you go 30 yards down the field, full sprint, boom. Crush it back straight to the quarterback. You're going to be wide open.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you feel like that's what Tyreek jets, the Cardinals and the Browns in particular, they're like teams stuck inside of a maze and somebody hands them a map and the map is just gibberish. There's like no path.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Like I don't see a clear path out for either of those.

[Jason Moore]

Ownership looks at the map and they're like, no, I can draw you.

[Andy Holloway]

I can draw you.

[Jason Moore]

We don't need this. We run professional football teams that we worked really hard to buy to be born into owning.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, that is going to do it. We'll wrap it up right there. We've got a couple great episodes coming up, a rookie review show. What in the world?

[Jason Moore]

Wait, what do you got?

[Andy Holloway]

Did you see next Thursday what they've come up with for us?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, why don't you just tell me? Next Thursday is mock draft, baby. I love the first round.

[Andy Holloway]

Just the first round. Just the first round.

[Mike Wright]

Love it.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we'll see where we disagree there, but that'll do it for today's episode of the show ultimate draftkid.com also, don't forget YouTube exists al send them some links, stuff you're watching or we'll watch it together on next show. Take it easy everybody.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

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