Sleepers + Buy or Sell, Goin’ Deep! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/26

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: "Sleepers + Buy or Sell, Goin’ Deep!"

Episode Overview: Released on August 26, 2020, this episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast delves into strategic insights for fantasy football enthusiasts. Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright provide in-depth analysis on sleeper picks, buy or sell recommendations, and comprehensive news and notes to aid listeners in dominating their fantasy leagues.

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1. Buy or Sell: James White

Discussion: The trio begins the episode with the "Buy or Sell" segment, focusing on Patriots running back James White.

• Jason Moore posits that James White may not outperform his late sixth-round average draft position (ADP) of RB31, citing his inconsistent usage with Cam Newton handling 46% of the snaps:

  • "[04:08] Mike Wright: I can't believe."
  • "[06:54] Jason Moore: I'm a huge sell."

• Andy Holloway acknowledges White's consistent performance in past seasons but expresses concerns over a potential decline in reception volume and quality:

  • "[05:38] Jason Moore: Can I drop some stats on you?"
  • "[05:45] Andy Holloway: Okay."

• Mike Wright remains optimistic, projecting White as RB29 in half-point PPR leagues, suggesting value for those loading up on wide receivers early:

  • "[07:25] Mike Wright: Yeah, I'm going to buy it."

Conclusion: The hosts present a divided stance, with Jason recommending selling James White due to uncertain snap distributions, while Mike advocates for buying him as a reliable option in PPR leagues.

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2. News and Notes

Key Updates:

• Patriots Backfield Dynamics:

  • Sony Michel reaffirms his role amidst discussions surrounding Damien Harris.
    • "[10:25] Andy Holloway: News and notes from around the league."
    • "[10:36] Mike Wright: I know he was on the field."

• Eagles Running Backs:

  • Boston Scott's emergence as a PPR asset differentiates him from Miles Sanders.
    • "[24:39] Andy Holloway: I certainly do."

• Jets Wide Receiver Situation:

  • Chris Hogan's focus on the first team offense raises questions about his role.
    • "[16:54] Jason Moore: We also have a special message for you from NHTSA."

• Eagles’ Wide Receiver Health:

  • AJ Green and John Ross are expected to return to practice, enhancing the receiving corps.
    • "[12:51] Jason Moore: AJ Green expected to return to practice."

Notable Quote:

• "[11:05] Jason Moore: If you want to know where people are with Sony Michel, I've gotten messages on Twitter saying do you think I should take him in the 18th round?"

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3. Sleepers Discussion

A. Consensus Sleeper Picks:

• Antonio Gibson (WR/RB, Washington Football Team):

  • Described as a hybrid weapon with potential to range from special teams to a primary offensive asset.
    • "[27:58] Jason Moore: But Antonio Gibson is one of the names that I think we all agree is a sleeper pick."
  • Mike Wright highlights Gibson’s versatility and athleticism, comparing him to Jonathan Taylor:
    • "[28:29] Mike Wright: He's a gigantic man for a running back, 6 foot, almost 230 pounds..."

• Chris Thompson (RB, Jacksonville):

  • Emphasized as a third-down specialist with high target potential, especially in trade scenarios.
    • "[34:57] Andy Holloway: Yeah, I think he's coming in to be the third down specialist, the pass catching back."

• Alan "Laz" Lazard (WR, Green Bay Packers):

  • Positioned as the number two wide receiver behind Davante Adams with increased target opportunities.
    • "[37:44] Jason Moore: We have Lazard pretty much locked in to be the wide receiver too behind Devonte Adams."

B. Individual Sleeper Picks:

• Kendrick Bourne (WR, San Francisco 49ers):

  • Identified for his reliability and the 49ers' favorable early-season schedule.
    • "[40:44] Mike Wright: Kendrick Bourne, he was number four in targets for the San Francisco 49ers."

• McCoy Hardman (WR, Kansas City Chiefs):

  • Highlighted for his speed and potential to capitalize on injuries within the Chiefs' receiving corps.
    • "[43:52] Andy Holloway: I would take him rather than Sammy Watkins rather than Demarcus Robinson."

• Dan Arnold (TE, Arizona Cardinals):

  • Noted as an under-the-radar tight end with explosive potential in a robust offense.
    • "[48:17] Jason Moore: Dan Arnold is a legit sleeper candidate this year."

Notable Quotes:

• "[28:29] Mike Wright: ...he is a gigantic man for a running back, 6 foot, almost 230 pounds..."
• "[43:52] Andy Holloway: ...I would take him rather than Sammy Watkins rather than Demarcus Robinson."

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4. Strategic Insights and Analysis

Player Utilization and Team Dynamics:

• James White: The trio debates White’s role in the Patriots’ offense, weighing past performance against current usage trends.
• Antonio Gibson: Emphasized as a high-upside sleeper due to his multifaceted role and physical attributes.
• Chris Thompson: Valued for his role as a third-down specialist, offering trade flexibility and depth.

Injury Impacts and Opportunities:

• The discussion underscores how injuries to key players like Sammy Watkins or Tyreek Hill can open opportunities for sleepers like McCoy Hardman.
• Dan Arnold’s potential to become a featured tight end due to injuries highlights the importance of monitoring player health and team dynamics.

Draft Strategy:

• Andy Holloway advocates for drafting sleepers in the later rounds to maximize value without risking early-round picks.
• Mike Wright emphasizes the importance of identifying players who can become critical assets as the season progresses, even if they start as late-round picks.

Notable Strategy Quote:

• "[35:26] Jason Moore: Would you personally? Chris Thompson, James White, Boston Scott. And is that considering draft position as well?"

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5. Final Thoughts and Recommendations

Sleepers to Watch:

• The hosts encourage listeners to consider deep sleepers like Chris Thompson and Dan Arnold, who may not be on everyone's radar but possess significant upside.
• Mike Wright and Jason Moore stress the importance of staying active on the waiver wire and being prepared to pivot based on early-season performances.

Community and Engagement:

• Listeners are invited to join the Fantasy Footballers community at jointhefoot.com and engage on Twitter @FFBallers and @jointhefoot.

Upcoming Content:

• The hosts tease upcoming segments, including breakout shows and further sleeper discussions, ensuring listeners remain engaged and informed throughout the fantasy football season.

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Conclusion: This episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast offers a treasure trove of strategies and player insights for fantasy football managers. From evaluating James White's value to uncovering hidden gems like Antonio Gibson and Dan Arnold, the hosts provide actionable advice to help listeners gain a competitive edge in their leagues. By blending statistical analysis with real-time news and personal anecdotes, Holloway, Moore, and Wright deliver a comprehensive guide for navigating the complexities of fantasy football drafts and in-season maneuvers.

Transcript

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

That is correct.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's do some buy. Sell.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Buy or sell. The Patriots running back James White will outperform his current average draft position, which is the late sixth round. Running back 31. He finished higher than the RB 31 in three of the last four years with Tom Brady in New England two. What's that?

[Andy Holloway]

Three of the last four?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.

[Jason Moore]

I was just saying he's been there and yeah, 28th and 2016, 41st in 2017, then 8th in 2018, 22nd last year. But what are you doing? You're buying or selling the fact that James White will outperform his current average draft position?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I will say this, he's a perfect name to bring up on a sleepers show because he is certainly being, you know, you could say he, he's being disrespected from what he has done in the past. He's always the forgotten man. I forget about him in the sense that whenever we bring up the New England backfield, you know, Sony is, oh, he's back. Oh, he's hurt. Damien Harris, is he going to, you know, oh, Lamar Miller's coming in. Don't forget about Rex Burkhead. And I never bring up James White's name, which is not fair since he's the only guy who's been good at fantasy for the last several years. That being said, I do think that there is going to be a large downtick in receptions which if you followed, you know, my kind of narrative about Austin Eckler. When you are a guy that the vast majority of your production comes through the air and you lose the super old statue vet that has to dump it down quickly and cannot scramble and get out of the pocket and make plays with his legs, you're going to lose some amount. That's not to say he's not utilized in a pass catching way or that Cam Newton can't use a pass catcher a la I don't know, Christian McCaffrey did pretty well.

[Jason Moore]

Can I drop some stats on you?

[Andy Holloway]

Why don't you put them in front of me, I'll look at them.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Cam Newton, look out below because you brought up Christian McCaffrey and I wanted to take A little look at them. We did not identify Cam Newton as a, a quarterback that works with the running back. You know, the passing game. That was the narrative before Christian McCaffrey arrived. Newton was the 41st most accurate passer on throws between 1 and 9 yards among quarterbacks with 100 or more attempts in the last three seasons. So he has not been what Tom Brady has been in that close quarters range over the last 300 throws. He has an overthrow percentage of 13.2% that is better than only Josh Rose and Mason Rudolph and Jeff Driscoll. So he has a tendency to overthrow.

[Mike Wright]

Look, Superman's too strong.

[Jason Moore]

Too strong.

[Andy Holloway]

You try to dink a dunk with that arm.

[Jason Moore]

James White is 2 inches shorter than Christian McCaffrey. Oh, he's got shorter arms. He's got a lower, lower career catch percentage.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank goodness. I put these stats right on me.

[Jason Moore]

And he only, he only plays 46% of the snaps last year.

[Mike Wright]

So you're a buy.

[Jason Moore]

I'm a huge sell. But I look at him the same way that you guys look at Adrian Peterson in Washington, which is. You don't. There's no like perceived upside for you. Like there's no reason that you want to draft AP in any way, shape or form. Even though I think he will get 200 carries. It doesn't even matter to you? To me, James White with cam Newton on 46% of snaps represents that nebulous just meh output. And so for me it's a sell.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm going to buy it. I will buy that. James White will outproduce the running back 31. I have him projected at running back 29 right now and that's in half point PPR. He's, he's not a player you're going to look at in standard leagues that the outrageous fantasy production you had from a couple years ago, that's not going to happen again. But I still think that you know, when you're, if you're loading up on wide receivers early in the draft, James White is one of those guys later on that I'm fine taking the shot on. I know the stats are there, the narratives are there. But like what if the Patriots are not as good as they were last year? What if, didn't you know the defense the second half of the year once the schedule kind of toughened up on them, the defense wasn't as elite. They had a whole bunch of opt outs.

[Andy Holloway]

They've lost some Chung, Hightower, they've lost some pieces on defense, some great players.

[Mike Wright]

What if they're in a little bit more of a negative game script where it can't just be whoever the ground and pound guy is and James White is forced back on the field and he's on the field for 60% of the snaps. So to me there is upside in the targets.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say this, he is a. He has his place in fantasy football and you nailed it. Mike, if you're going 0rb, if you're one of those people that is stacking your team up in those early rounds at wide receiver, quarterback at tight end and you just need someone that can plug into your running back spot while you wait for, you know, a Pollard or an Edmonds or a Madison to get their shot, then you grab someone in a PPR league like James White who will go in there and absolutely give you a floor that is not zero. But I am selling this. I'm on Andy's side here in the sense that I've got him at my as my running back 39. I think the passing volume goes down. I think the quality of passes to that position goes down as well. And he wasn't a dominant force already. So for those reasons combined, Shark T, I'm out.

[Mike Wright]

How many targets do you guys have him down for? 95 targets. 123, 72.

[Jason Moore]

I think he could probably get to that 80, 90 target range.

[Andy Holloway]

I have him at 73.

[Mike Wright]

73 would be rough, but if he hits the 90 target mark, he's going to have fantasy value.

[Jason Moore]

You said if you're going 0 RB, James White's a good pickup. And I think that's true also because he's basically not a running back. He's basically like a slot receiver of sorts. I mean, 67 total carries last year, that monster year he had, he had 94 carries but five rushing touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, outlier.

[Jason Moore]

So, yeah, I mean he can definitely finish above 31 even with Cam Newton's deficiencies in that area. But I'm selling it. That was by herself from pristine auction. Pristine auction.com use the code. Ballers get a $10 credit towards some sweet sports memorabilia. Let's talk news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

A little pup follow up to that James White discussion. Sony, Michelle, coming off the Is it official?

[Mike Wright]

I know he was on the field.

[Jason Moore]

It's official. Official. Judge Giamatti, who has placed this before my eyeballs.

[Mike Wright]

So now we will see if the Damien Harris drumbeat and hype can withstand.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. And the Damien Harris hype includes some competency in the passing game. From what I'VE read people excited about the routes run and the way that he's playing in that area of the game. That's why he's more interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Than Sony.

[Mike Wright]

Like for some people. Sony Michelle's back. Okay. I'm completely moving on from Damien Harris. I'm not going to completely move on at this point from the news has been so positive about Damien Harris. He. The odds are against him when. When someone's a third round pick and they do absolutely nothing in their rookie year but they're healthy. The odds are against that player. But the reports have been just so positive. Let's see how healthy Sony Michelle actually is. We got to stay water and be ready to move Damien Harris out of that sleeper range. But I'm just saying I'm not doing that. I'm not taking that action immediately.

[Jason Moore]

If you want to know where people are with Sony Michelle, I've gotten messages on Twitter saying do you think I should take him in the 18th round? That's the kind of message that somebody look 247 carries for Sony Michelle last year and from what I can tell destroyed every single person that had him that rostered him in this league. 100% of people furious. I thought he'd be a fantasy MVP for people last year that was a swing and a miss. Despite 247 carries. He was a disaster for fantasy owners.

[Mike Wright]

And that's why you. You still draft Sony Michelle. You're just not in an early round or a mid to in a single digit round. I'm not drafting Sony Michelle.

[Jason Moore]

But you Lamar Miller just make it.

[Mike Wright]

More annoying overall again let's see Lamar Miller make the team first for a guy to show up and just like he's still on the pup. If Damian Harris is actually showing out why are they. Why would they roster all Sony?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they're not going to be all four of them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Right now Lamar Miller is the odd man out.

[Jason Moore]

AJ Green expected to return to practice.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

As is John Ross. Worth noting that they're getting their complete wide receiving core available. Hopefully AJ Green could stay at practice.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. T. Higgins camp talk has been very, very positive. Anthony Lynson, Mike Williams wide receiver for the Los Angeles Chargers could miss the team season opener with the shoulder injury.

[Mike Wright]

Now we the hard Knocks bump. We talk about it every year because somebody ends up getting it. You. It's just human nature. It's on video. You see a player dominating. You fall in love with this player and his personality. There is a player who we're already in love with and that is Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

He's my wide receiver. 1 Now Mike, if you watched Hard.

[Mike Wright]

Knocks last night and you saw Keenan Allen just leaving Chris Harris in shambles on some of these routes, Mike Williams missing some games and honestly we don't know the extent. Now we know the collarbone is fine but Mike Williams from the fantasy doctors on Twitter, like there is a huge range of outcomes of how long Mike Williams is actually going to be out with this shoulder injury.

[Jason Moore]

Let me redirect the conversation okay a little bit. Are we, we have not said this name aloud. Hunter Henry. I mean Mike Williams. You talk about what Mike Williams brings to an offense. You, you. He's a big boy.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he's. He is the nine route field stretching.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receiver and, and a red zone threat. You know, go up and win the 5050 ball. You know, Keenan Allen is going to get targets. What they represent with Tyrod Taylor, I'm not sure. We have had examples of lots of great wide receivers that have had bad situations. Odell Beckham comes to mind. Last year just didn't work out with Baker. We've talked about Larry Fitzgerald in the past with bad quarterback play. I'm not trying to throw shade all over Tyrod Taylor. I think he's okay. But Hunter Henry sitting there able to potentially represent more of a value in drafts than Keenan might even represent.

[Mike Wright]

I was completely off of Hunter Henry before Mike Williams was was going to miss time. So yes, I agree that Henry is far more interesting now and he's. He would be the biggest benefactor of Mike Williams missing time. Jru, I feel like you've kind of still been in on Hunter Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm in on Hunter Henry as far as being the next tier of tight end and being worth it. I'm out on Hunter Henry as far as actually drafting him because where he's going in a draft, I just don't draft sixth, seventh round.

[Mike Wright]

Well, just said he's going in the ninth.

[Andy Holloway]

In the ninth. Sure. In the ninth. If that's actually where he falls to come real drafts, I would, I would grab Hunter Henry in the ninth for sure. I like that value. I'm just not I've found in the drafts I've been doing it's around the middle of the seventh round where I go from players that I think are good and have some kind of known commodity to dart throws where I think the probability of your pick mattering by the end of the season and looking back is very low. And so at that point I need to be past that point to take a tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Are we foolish to ignore the Austin Hoopers and Hunter Henry's in favor of some of these upside tight ends? The Fance, the Jonas, the Hearst, the Herndon's.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean I think because I'll.

[Jason Moore]

See guys seem more exciting because we've seen the other ones play a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I have Hunter Henry ranked above those other guys and it's really just a matter of where you are in your draft. If you can get Hunter Henry in those late near double digit rounds. Because that's where I've been getting, you know, Hayden Hurst or Noah Fant. But I would take Hunter Henry there. But I would rather have hearst in the 9th or 10th than Hunter Henry in the 6th or 7th.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right. We have news that Chris Hogan is working exclusively with the first team offense.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not a good sign.

[Jason Moore]

No, they have just renamed the first team offense the second team off. I mean that's not a good sign for the depth chart. I mean he was just signed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

When dude off street goes and runs with the ones you are in some trouble. And he's Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

Brooks is typing to me. Wide receiver for the Jets.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes.

[Jason Moore]

And that's a good point because you might not know where Hogan is these days.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. Thank you Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Or who Hogan is at all.

[Mike Wright]

Look, the New York Jets. The jets have been hit by injuries. Their big free agent pickup, Rashad Perryman has been dealing with an injury. Their second round rookie wide receiver pick Denzel Mims has been dealing with a hamstring injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Robbie Anderson who had that role last year has left the team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, so there are. They're up against it. Once, once people are healthy. I don't think Chris Hogan is running with the ones. But this is.

[Andy Holloway]

And this is why we like Chris Herndon as a sleeper tight end because he has the opportunity to go from a late round pick to one of.

[Jason Moore]

The leaders in target like 70 reception, 80 reception potential for Chris Herndon. Dirt cutter expects a minimum of 15 touches for Todd Gurley. Well, that's good because you paid him to be your starting running back so.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, I mean I think it is news. It's coach speak. So you have to decide. Do you believe it or not, when I started my guys out this year I. I was surprised by how much I was in on Gurley and that was based on Eno Smith and Brian Hill I don't think are good and not good enough to really take over. In which case, you know, it's the Todd Gurley show he's a one year contract for a coach who has to win or get out. I think they're going to use him. And Mike, you've brought up some stats that make you question. Okay, well, they used Devonta Freeman. He wasn't any good. Maybe they're just going to use Todd Gurley. He's not any good.

[Mike Wright]

And the same thing you could say like last year, Todd Gurley was. He averaged 17 touches a game. So he was in that range. And it took 14 touchdowns just to turn him into the running, the running back. 14. Is Todd Gurley going to get 14 touchdowns with the Atlanta Falcons?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, we've talked about this. A reception is worth so much more than a carry.

[Jason Moore]

No, he's not.

[Andy Holloway]

And so if.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you, Andy. If you're talking about sidestepping the questions over here.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not sidestepping the questions.

[Mike Wright]

You can answer the question.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not going to get 14 touchdowns, but if his total touches are far more in the reception side than in the carry side, that's going to make up some ground. And then the nice thing is I've seen Gurley drop. People don't want him now he's dropping. You know, if you can get Gurley.

[Jason Moore]

Mike's work here is done.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, you have.

[Mike Wright]

Where have you seen him dropping to? I want to know if I'm in on this.

[Andy Holloway]

Fifth round is the latest I've seen. Now, that was in a much more casual league where quarterbacks are going to go higher, but let's say, you know, late fourth round.

[Mike Wright]

No, not fourth. I'm not in fifth. I'm probably not in Gurley.

[Jason Moore]

David Montgomery. Jason, to close this conversation, I would take Todd Gurley.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Sleepers.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we did a breakout show yesterday. Today we're talking about sleepers. And we did a early sleeper pick show back on the 23rd of June. I want to see where you guys sit with the players that you brought up.

[Mike Wright]

Then.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, you talked about Randall Cobb. Do you still view him as a sleeper?

[Mike Wright]

100%. I have shifted that. I do believe Will Fuller will be the the breakout wide receiver from this team. But like I was saying, you need to leave margin. You need to leave room for a range of outcomes. And we simply don't know what's going to happen with the passing game for the Houston Texans. And people want Fuller, people want to draft cooks. But Randall Cobb could see a whole bunch of targets as the slot wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

I realized yesterday we are in the middle of a family draft. I tweeted the first eight rounds. Jason and my team, like our kids are in it. Our wives are playing. It's been really fun. I didn't get Will Fuller in the eighth round and I was devastated. I found out that I'm in love with Will Fuller this year, you guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Are certainly on that side. You have both developed into believers and you're seeking him out in drafts, drafting him or being sad that he's drafted. I still believe Brandon Cooks is the wide receiver to own, and I feel like we need some sort of.

[Mike Wright]

The roster.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Some sort of bet. Some water bet. Brandon Cooks v. Will Fuller.

[Jason Moore]

How about that?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's it.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, you want in on the Will Fuller side.

[Andy Holloway]

Two for one. Come on.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Water bet.

[Jason Moore]

It's been a while. We haven't had a water bet in a while.

[Andy Holloway]

You're welcome.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The last one might have been the J.K. dobbins, Gus Edwards bet we made.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that was.

[Mike Wright]

That's a hot bet.

[Jason Moore]

What's that? The first four weeks touches or something like that?

[Andy Holloway]

That is correct.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We only deal with the big names here on the show. Jason, in the early sleeper show, you. You brought up Boston Scott. Still believe Boston Scott's a sleeper, Scott?

[Andy Holloway]

I certainly do. Running back for the Philadelphia Eagles. While I think Miles Sanders is a very, very good pick, assuming he's healthy, I think Great Scott is going to be fantastic because he's a PPR guy. You know, we brought up James White in the beginning. You know, Carson Wentz will absolutely use Boston Scott. At the end of the last year, Boston Scott was really valuable. Now, that came when there were no other wide receivers and the health of the pass catchers was a giant question mark. But he broke out and he has full stranglehold on the number two running back position, which is part of why I like Miles Sanders so much. Because it's not like Boston Scott. I mean, if you don't know who Boston Scott is, you got to look hard. You can miss him. He is not a big guy out there.

[Mike Wright]

He's a Darren Sprouls guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly right. So he's not going to just take, you know, he's not Jordan Howard. He's not going to be splitting carries with Miles Sanders. But I do think in a PPR league, Boston Scott is a good name to know.

[Mike Wright]

He averaged. Once he finally, like, took that backup job over those final four weeks, he was averaging, you know, just over six targets a game. So he's interesting.

[Jason Moore]

I want you to know something, Jason. I agree with you.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, fantastic. It's finally happened.

[Jason Moore]

I had Michael Pittman Jr. Rookie wide receiver for the Indianapolis Colts on the 623 show. I will say that I have, like, three players in Indianapolis that I believe are sleepers. Michael Pittman, Paris Campbell and Naim Hines. Like, I think all three of them are very interesting. And so I would say that I've. I guess I've cooled on Michael Pittman in terms of carving him out above Paris Campbell. I think Paris Campbell's skill set might fit what Philip Rivers does, you know, pretty well. So if you made me choose between those two guys right now, it's almost a coin flip for me. And I'd probably choose Paris Campbell.

[Andy Holloway]

So, sure, yeah, I would still choose Michael Pittman out of those two. But the Paris Campbell hype has certainly brought some doubt to Michael Pittman as a rookie wide receiver breaking out this season.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm really excited about each of our individual sleeper picks on the show today. We have gone a little bit deeper with these three picks. Trying to bring you some names that maybe you have literally not heard of that could have an interesting role this season, but they're pretty deep. And I wanted to bring forward a couple of our UDK sleeper picks as well. We have sleepers, breakouts, bus values in the ultimate draft kit. And so these are our kind of more consensus three names. And then we'll bring our kind of individual three names. The first one we're talking about because look, if there's one camp situation that everyone's paying attention to, it's Antonio Gibson, running back, wide receiver, hybrid weapon for the Washington football team, third round draft pick. Mike is living in a sea of emotion with Antonio Gibson.

[Mike Wright]

I look, I've got, I've got Twitter search for Antonio Gibson. I got this thing on refresh like every three seconds. Well, yeah, you are all than Gibson news.

[Jason Moore]

You are hype maximum.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

But Antonio Gibson is one of the names that I think we all agree is a sleeper pick. Like, regardless of how you see the season, the range of outcomes, which I think are vast for Antonio Gibson. He could be a player that goes from predominantly a special teams weapon to all the way because of the depth chart in Washington, all the way to like the most valuable fantasy asset on the team. And I do mean that, like, that is a possibility.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Explosive player, multifaceted skill set, great wide receiver, but a rookie.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it's in Mike's contract. We had to bring his name up on the sleeper show.

[Mike Wright]

It's like, okay, the. If you want to get into athletic profiles, everyone fell over themselves once they saw what Jonathan Taylor did at the combine. He, like I said on yesterday's show, the. The. The comp for Jonathan Taylor is the Hulk. Antonio Gibson is. Was step for step with Jonathan Taylor. He is a gigantic man for a running back, 6 foot, almost 230 pounds and ran a sub 4, 4 40.

[Jason Moore]

What was Darren McFadden size? Because that's what he kind of reminds me of in terms of stature.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you can, I don't know, off.

[Jason Moore]

The top of my head, he was okay. McFadden was even bigger, 6, 2, 2 10. But you're talking about a taller running back. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Antonio Gibson is 228.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So much stouter than Daniel.

[Jason Moore]

You said 6 foot, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so here's the deal. Here's why I love Antonio Gibson. The situation in Washington in the backfield is completely unknown. The skill set for Antonio Gibson is they. Honestly, it wasn't known what position he was going to play in the NFL when he was drafted. Yeah, they, it was okay. We're drafting him as a running back, but we didn't know. You had to follow the news to know, okay, what position are they actually going to put him at? And they decided to go with running back. If you go and look, look at his college production, it is absolutely insanity. This. The guy scored a touchdown like every fifth time he touched the ball. He is running with the ones and.

[Jason Moore]

So he's doing different things with the ones.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but I'm saying he's playing with the first team. He's catching the ball, he's running. I want to check in with you, Andy. With the drumbeat that has happened for Antonio Gibson, I don't mind at all people taking a late round shot on Bryce Love. Have you changed your stance? Are you still more of you're looking to draft Bryce Love?

[Jason Moore]

Here's what I believe. I believe Antonio Gibson will receive 25% of the running back snaps in Washington.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

And then take that for what you will, what you believe about his involvement, role, explosive plays. I think he'll get about 25% of the snaps over the course of the year. I think Adrian Peterson will be in the 40% range. I think J.D. mcKissick will be in the 20% range. And I think Bryce Love and mostly Antonio Gibson fill up the rest. What do you believe about the offense? What do you believe about predictability? Predictability on that snap count? There you go. So I think that, you know, when you have Adrian Peterson in front of you, who's older, you have an opportunity. I don't know if this team. Ron Rivera, the way he talks about Adrian Peterson, you look at the example that Adrian Peterson has been around camp. Adrian Peterson's yards per carry went up year to year in Washington the last two years. I Don't think that we, you know, Rivera's not looking through our lens. He's looking through the lens of the example of Adrian Peterson and what he's done. So I don't know if, I don't know if the season goes really bad. Let's put it this way, okay. If they're a terrible team through the first eight to 10 weeks, that back half of the year could be gold for Antonio Gibson. Okay, Jason, I see you kind of thinking, sitting, shifting in your seat a little bit, disagreeing.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I was, I was unsure where you all despising sadness because I actually think you had me in a lot of what you were saying. But I think if the season goes really bad, very, very poorly, they might just run, you know, through Adrian Peterson and keep going. I think if their offense starts clicking and things start working and they get explosive plays from Terry McLaurin, they might try to get Gibson more and more involved and, and open things up and not be a conservative team. If they're wanting to be conservative, that's where I think they'll run Adrian Peterson and.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, it's just my logic of they're going to start this season. Adrian Peterson's the starter. He's going to get the majority of the work. So they're either going to succeed with that recipe or if they fail, then they shift and they look more towards the future. We talk a lot about my kind of thought that there are no teams that are actually looking to the future in the NFL. They're not. It's not like the NBA where you come out and you're like, man, we're definitely competing for the.

[Andy Holloway]

Trust the process.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, trust the process. It's mostly coaches that don't want to get fired that year. And there are a couple of teams and you brought them up, Jacksonville, Carolina and Washington in particular, that look like it is a process. It's going to be more than one year. But I just believe Ron Rivera really likes Adrian Peterson. And so that concerns me with the upside.

[Mike Wright]

It's tough because he loves all of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes. Every. Every player on the roster is a full three down back.

[Mike Wright]

Ron Rivera is not.

[Jason Moore]

Do you believe he loves J.D. mcKissick?

[Mike Wright]

I believe that he likes him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This is the fun part of fantasy. I mean, these are. He's a sleeper because his upside is Mike dancing in the streets for 14 of the 16 weeks this year. Look, guys, I don't even know what we're going to do with you if we. I won't.

[Mike Wright]

I won't be here. I will have ascended.

[Jason Moore]

You will have.

[Mike Wright]

I will turn into lights and my physical being will no longer be a part of this planet.

[Jason Moore]

I just cannot imagine. I don't know what our CGI capabilities are back there. Al Borland, Judge Giamatti. But if in week one Antonio Gibson has like two long touchdown plays, I want to see if we can make Mike look like John Travolta from that angel movie or something. I want him glowing on the other side of the screen.

[Mike Wright]

Powder, no CGI necessary.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I guess that's true. We don't need to do anything. Mike will come in. Just an aura.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Two other names from the udk. Chris Thompson, running back in Jacksonville. He reunites with Jay Gruden who had him in Washington. Ironically, Chris Thompson was kind of this role that we kind of see Antonio Gibson being in Washington, which is third down, explosive, big chunk play guy. Tons of targets for Chris Thompson throughout his career in Washington. Also tons of injuries. Yeah, but we had Leonard Fournette be this first, second, third down back in Jacksonville and here's Chris Thompson. Do you believe he takes the majority of the work on third down?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think he's coming in to be the third down specialist, the pass catching back. And you know, Leonard Fournette had 100 plus targets last year. They throw to the running back, Minshew will dump it down and they brought someone who's better at that skill. You know, I talked about believing in Boston Scott as that PPR third down option. Chris Thompson is better than Boston Scott.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Thompson, James White, Boston Scott is.

[Andy Holloway]

The order I would put them.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Would you personally? Chris Thompson, James White, Boston Scott. And is that considering draft position as well?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I'm saying at where that's the order that I would draft those people because of where they are in the draft.

[Jason Moore]

So you're pretty bullish on Mr. Chris Thompson, which makes sense. He's our UDK sleeper.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I just. When I.

[Mike Wright]

He's a very good player.

[Andy Holloway]

If he's healthy, he's going to be relevant for fantasy. And maybe you only get five or six weeks and then he pulls something or breaks something, unfortunately, because that's been the history. But I'm. I'm fine when he's out there. I think he's going to be catching the ball a lot.

[Mike Wright]

Here's what I like about Chris Thompson is if you look back on his past three years, he is solid for fantasy in those first games and then the injury happens and even if when he comes back, he's still not at full strength, but those first few weeks while he's healthy, like you said last year, people may not remember three of or two of the first three weeks. He was a top 20 running back for fantasy in Washington who they were bad last year breaking. Perhaps you don't remember that part. Chris Thompson is the perfect player to draft late. And then if he hits on week one, maybe we even want to wait till week two, you trade him because somebody, maybe even the person who drafted Leonard Fournettes, like, oh crap, I need to get this backfield completely shored up and I got a draft for Chris Thompson. He is the perfect player that you draft him late and will be able to have trade value just a couple of weeks into the season.

[Jason Moore]

Now, Jason, you're taking a Rule 34 approach to Chris Thompson. When he's out there, when he's available, you're willing to play him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. If he is healthy, he should be good. I don't expect him to necessarily stay healthy. But the nice thing and the reason that I put him first is not because he's not going to be better than James White on the season. I don't expect that. But Chris Thompson is absolutely free, undrafted in many leagues. He's costing you nothing. And to start the season, you'll have an asset that can be used or traded.

[Jason Moore]

All right, one more UDK sleeper before we bring our individual kind of deep sleeper picks here. Alan Lazard, wide receiver for the Green Bay Packers. Long live the Lazard King.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, Hail.

[Jason Moore]

We have Lazard pretty much locked in to be the wide receiver too behind Devonte Adams. If you look back at his game logs last year as he was kind of establishing himself a little bit.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

You know, his fantasy relevant weeks were the weeks he scored. But that is something that, you know, Aaron Rodgers, if he likes you, it can end well for you.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. This is follow the narrative of what happened last year. Alan Lazard was not a full time player until about halfway into the season. All the reports were Aaron Rodgers told the staff, I want Lazard out there. Now, I don't know Aaron Rodgers personally, so I cannot confirm nor deny that this actually took place. But we did see that Aaron Rodgers was willing to go to Alan Lazard on very tough throws and Lazard came through with several highlight plays. They didn't do anything in the draft to address the wide receiver 2 position, which we thought Green Bay may do.

[Andy Holloway]

Should. Which should have done.

[Mike Wright]

Look. But it spoke to the confidence in Alan Lazard solidifying himself as the wide receiver to the drumbeat For Lazard has been growing louder and louder over the course of training camp. Does Aaron Rodgers in this offense have enough to sustain two fantasy wide receivers? That remains to be seen.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the question. That's what makes him a sleeper, is he is the number two wide receiver. I think we're all sure of that. He's. But does it matter? Does Aaron Rodgers number two wide receiver? And that sounds crazy that to think it doesn't matter. And you know, last year the number two didn't matter, but it was. It was split. You know, they tried MVS, they tried Alan Lazard. If he's got 16 games of being the number two, hopefully Aaron Rodgers has a good enough season where that matters. There is a chance where they're running the ball so much and Devonte Adams is inching towards 200 targets and the wide receiver two doesn't matter. But in general, Alan Lazard is the wide receiver two for a Hall of Fame quarterback who's been good at fantasy for the majority of his career.

[Jason Moore]

We only saw a little peak at higher snap count. Alan Lazard at the end of the year, the last three games, over 70% three targets. But then nine targets and eight targets the last two weeks. They won the last five games. But then that disparity of what you're talking about, does it matter? Well, in week 16 with nine targets, he was the 49th wide receiver on the week. In week 17, he was the 18th wide receiver where he was very relevant with similar snap counts and targets. So it's not what it was in Green Bay, but Lazard pretty much has established himself. I have heard some. Some equanimous Saint Brown talk around camp.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Returning from the injury.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he. Yeah, he didn't play at all last year, unfortunately.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's move on to our individual sleeper picks here.

[Mike Wright]

It's time to get deep.

[Jason Moore]

And Mike, Mike, you have a. What I think is a great sleeper selection here.

[Mike Wright]

Well, thank you. This is the name I want to bring up. And this is a very deep sleeper like we have prefaced. And this is a player who. His relevance may just be the first quarter of the season, but I want to highlight Kendrick Bourne, wide receiver from San Francisco. Last year Here were the 49ers target leaders. George Kittle. Okay, he's still there. Yeah, I've heard of him and he's a great player. Debo?

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

When's he going to play? I don't know. Manuel Sanders. He's not going to play for the.

[Andy Holloway]

49Ers week one, but just. Yeah, for the Saints.

[Mike Wright]

And then Kendrick Bourne, he was number four in targets for the San Francisco 49ers. He's reliable. 76% of his receptions turn into a first down. They look, they haven't. They have a very easy season or opening schedule for the wide receiver and the quarterback. According to our strength of schedule tool. In the ultimate draft kit, they have the number one early season schedule for wide receivers, number three for quarterbacks and 24th for running backs. Not that I'm not doubting San Francisco's ability to run. Just saying that if you're looking at the schedule, it lines up pretty nicely for San Francisco. San Francisco to get it done through the air. And the biggest thing is who else is going to do it? Who else is going to catch passes besides George Kittle? I mean those first few weeks because their first round pick, Brandon Iyukin. Hey, my bad, my bad.

[Jason Moore]

Look, hate that guy.

[Mike Wright]

First round pick.

[Jason Moore]

If you wonder if we edit the show. There's your answer, pick.

[Mike Wright]

Like I was getting too heated.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, you're fine, man.

[Mike Wright]

Brandon, you can. Poor Brandon has a hamstring problem. He was going to be the guy, but now we don't know when he's going to be back. Is it Dante Pettis that he finally returned to good graces?

[Jason Moore]

Probably not.

[Mike Wright]

But Kendrick Bourne was tied with George Kittle for the team lead in touchdowns for the San Francisco 49ers last year over the first couple of weeks. Man, I do believe Kendrick Bourne can have deep sleeper value.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, Trent Taylor is going to be the dink and dunk guy, but the valuable targets have to go to somebody. And it's got to be seemingly either Kendrick Bourne or Dante Pettis. Right. Maybe he'll, you know, be that post type sleeper. But if last year was any indication, when you have the opportunity, he did not take a stand.

[Jason Moore]

No, he was their second round pick that turned sour.

[Andy Holloway]

Good. All right, Andy, you want to go or you want me to go?

[Jason Moore]

That's up to you, Mr. Moore.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'll hop right in. Water's warm. I like it. I'm going to go. I'm going to go with a fourth string wide receiver. You know the name because he was electric in moments. Last year, McColl Hardman, second year wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs. And you say what? He's not a starter? You're correct.

[Jason Moore]

26 receptions.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. 26 receptions his rookie year and now he is the fourth string, not a starter for the Chiefs. And I would take him rather than Sammy Watkins rather than demarcus Robinson. And here's my rationale. Why. First of all, the dude is electric fast, not fat. He's four, three, three. He's not sub four. He's. He crushed sub four. Four, three, three. Speed.

[Jason Moore]

He laughs at sub four.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. People like that's. He goes, that's disrespectful to call me sub four, four. The, the thing is, is not everybody translates speed on the field. But when he was on the field last year, he was actually super fast and uncatchable. You saw that time and time. There's a reason why he. He half of his games. Half of his games, 8 of 16. He was a top 36 wide receiver. And if you look at how many opportunities he got there, like you said, Andy, 26 receptions on the season because, you know, when he touches the ball.

[Jason Moore]

He was one touch man.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he was.

[Andy Holloway]

He is a very exciting prospect. But now he's coming into year two and he's been working on his intermediate routes. I watched a whole camp. He was mic'd up in camp one week and he is very much sound like this. Yes, exactly. They need to put a better wind guard on that mic. Sammy Watkins has already missed some time in camp, and that alone allows me call Hardman to have the opportunity to run with the ones to show Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes. Oh, this guy might be better for our offense. We know Andy Reid will go with whoever is better. I mean, superstar, possibly hall of fame Lashawn McCoy. He wasn't better for their team last year. And Andy Reid was kind enough to give him rest days, if you remember. He's. He just want to save him up.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, he was even kind enough to rest him during the Super Bowl.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. He wanted to save him up for, you know, whatever next year for his next team. But my, my point is this. I believe McCoy Hardman could and will play his way into a starter in front of either DeMarcus Robinson or Sammy Watkins that is without injury. But it only takes one injury and it can be to any of those three guys. If Tyree Kill got injured, if Sammy Watkins gets injured, which he has done many times, or demarcus Robinson gets injured, he will have the opportunity to go out there and dominate. Tyree kills, rookie year, 593 receiving yards. McCoy Hardman, rookie year, 538 receiving yards. They're very similar archetype. I think a year to leap as an actual wide receiver. His route, his getting off press, he was, he was. He didn't have a lot of college production. He came in.

[Jason Moore]

No, we were surprised with the pick. I mean, he came in as a speedster, end of sentence. I mean that.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

We didn't, we expected maybe they would go a different. But they knew what they wanted. You had the Tyree kill will he be back situation last off season. But he was drafted almost to replace Tyreek Hill. If Tyreek didn't come back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And my, if he, if he takes.

[Jason Moore]

That terrible quarterback, though. He is just an awful quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Sammy Watkins had 90 Patrick Mahomes targets. Let that sink in. He only had one good week on 90 Patrick Mahomes targets. Let's McCoy Hardman get in there and get 90 targets and you're going to have a really good fantasy option. And there's multiple ways that it could come either playing in front or injury ahead of them.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I'm going to go deeper. I mean, it's our job here on the show to wade through the camp hype. What do we believe? What don't we believe? The, you know. And we know our local camp may be a little bit better than others. Outside of DeAndre Hopkins arriving in Arizona, there's been no pass catcher that has more buzz than this guy.

[Mike Wright]

Don't mess around in training camp.

[Jason Moore]

He delivers on Sundays. And in the red zone is Dan Arnold. Dan Arnold is a legit sleeper candidate this year. And if you didn't, if you weren't paying attention, he showed you why at the very, very end of last season, he had four.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, Andy, to cut you off here, but this is a, this is a tip that we give everybody every year spent. Jason, you really highlight this. Make sure you are paying attention at the end of the season. Stick with the show. Look, rain, sun, rain or shine, you need to know what happens at the end of the season because guys like Dan Arnold show up and show out for the last four weeks and don't really make a ton of buzz. But you need to know what has happened.

[Jason Moore]

Dan Arnold is 6, 6 2, 22 explosive, monster, monster, vertical monster, broad jump, red zone weapon. Kyler Murray is in love with what Dan Arnold brings to the offense. He said, I've never had a guy that big that can do what he can do. It's pretty nice. Cliff says that they're hoping to build around Dan Arnold as that feature tight end Max Williams is banged up the end of the year that Mike talked about. He had four receptions for 76 yards in a score in the season finale. He scored in two of the last three outings. With Arizona seam routes, these routes that we saw. Kyler, you know, with the time that he can buy in the pocket with the weapons that you now have in DeAndre Hopkins, a healthy Christian. Kirk, nobody's talking about Dan Arnold, but this is a powerful offense and he is going to be featured in it. And that is what I, that's what I believe makes for a great sleeper. I mean, you have somebody that's going to be featured that no one knows about. That has tremendous upside. So I think that this is a player that, you know, we've joked about him a few times on the show, but that, that has gone from comedy to reality. When you talk about a very. I mean, he's completely free in drafts if you want him with your last pick. We've done that for three or four months here.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If your draft is already done, you can still get him. Just go, he's on the waiver wire.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Like, he is a great name that I believe needs to be mentioned. Maybe you don't want to draft the postman.

[Andy Holloway]

I get it.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to take your shot on somebody else. But week one, if Dan Arnold shows out, buy in. Like, believe, believe what has happened and go, go get him off the waiver wire.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's a very fast, very large weapon in this offense. And he flashed. If you don't know Dan Arnold, he flashed with Drew Brees a couple of years ago. Cardinals picked him up at the end of last season. But like I said, Max Williams is dealing with an unspecified injury in camp. Arnold's getting all of the opportunities and he is a pass catching tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

That is his role in that offense. So Kendrick, Bourne, McCoy, Hardman, Dan Arnold added to the list on today's episode. That'll do it for the Fantasy Footballers podcast. What do we have coming up tomorrow, Brooksie? We got bus and values.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Sour, A little bit of sweet? Is that what you're saying? Oh, yeah. And what about the rest of the week? What do we got going on? We're mocking on Friday. Final, final mock draft before the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Getting everybody ready.

[Jason Moore]

You guys see that stadium on Hard Knocks?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it is beautiful.

[Andy Holloway]

That is awesome.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was. That was pretty incredible. Keenan Allen, number one overall pick.

[Andy Holloway]

That stadium looked almost as good as Keenan Allen.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you for tuning in, everybody. Thank you for supporting the podcast. We will see you tomorrow. Stay safe. Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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