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Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
To the Fantasy Footballers podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Andy Holloway
Welcome in.
Mike Wright
It's football time.
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah.
Andy Holloway
Excited to be with you. Thursday, football time. Football o'clock coming soon. November 14th. We are the fantasy footballers. Andy, Mike and Jason, back with you for yet another wonderful week of fantasy football. You can find us on Instagram, instagram.com fantasy footballers, Twitter @the ff ballers. The website's the fantasy footballers.com at the top of the show, I wanted to mention a couple of quick things before we get to some very heartfelt apologies that are going to take place.
Mike Wright
It's gonna be tough.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. We're going to each apologize to one player that we were just wrong about their talent. Okay. Like a couple years ago, I probably would have needed to do this for Marlon Mac, for example. Like, I just didn't believe in the talent of Marlon Mack. But we're each going to do one for 2019 before we get there. I want to congratulate all of the Meglable participants that are now in the playoffs, which is about 1500 teams that made the playoffs of the 7000 that entered. So the top three of every league. And I want to give a shout out to Ray Smith, who's been the megalable and admin comish of 491 leagues.
Jason Moore
That's not easy.
Andy Holloway
No, I could handle three. Two.
Jason Moore
I was going to say give me.
Andy Holloway
One, but he has been and I'll.
Jason Moore
Do a bad job with it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And so congratulations to everybody in there. We had a few bumps in the road this week with regards to waiver pickups where basically playoff teams, you can't pick up waivers after week 10. Some teams accidentally got some waivers and they're being reversed and fixed. And we just did a new post@jointhefoot.com so if you're in the Megla bowl, you want to know what's going on, head over to jointhefoot.com yeah.
Jason Moore
Make sure you're checking in there. That's where we post all the updates. That's where we, you know, that obviously that's the hub where everyone is. So that's where we posted about rosters being locked and all that. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And we'll be reducing the playoff teams by 50% every week. So the top scores go on. And then we'll have a Megla bowl champ. And that'll be pretty sweet. And then somebody asked, quite a few people have asked us how the sleeper. The sleeper bowl that we participated in with juju, Smith, Schuster and Ninja.
Jason Moore
Zac Efron, Tim the Tap Man, Carl Anthony Towns. I could go on.
Andy Holloway
Have you seen Carl Anthony Towns lately, by the way? He's 7 foot 2 and he can cross you over like he's Tim Hardaway. It's ridiculous. The highlights coming in this year. Insane. People want to know how the league's going and I am directing our team of producers.
Mike Wright
Pretty. Pretty good.
Andy Holloway
Yes, it's going pretty good, Mike, but I am, I'm directing Al Borland and Judge Giamatti to please tweet the full standings today. People want to know how it's going. But when I tweeted some stuff like we're eight and two, we're tied for first, I think that's correct. But they want to see how everybody else. Because that was a really fun event doing that live draft and if we manage to bring this home, it's going to mean more money for St. Jude.
Jason Moore
That's right.
Andy Holloway
So that's pretty exciting. All right, anything else you guys want to touch on? We've got matchups today on the show after our apologies, we've got starts of the week. This is going to be a great episode.
Jason Moore
It always is.
Andy Holloway
Andy, I hope you apologize to me. I just feel like that.
Jason Moore
Oh, that might get ready. It's coming.
Andy Holloway
Alright, who wants to kick it off?
Jason Moore
I do.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Andy.
Andy Holloway
Oh, it's to me.
Jason Moore
I apologize for nothing. However, there is someone out there that look at my heart of hearts. I thought some bad things. DK Metcalf, you are not a one trick pony. You are not just a guy who can run straight faster than everyone else because you're bigger and faster and stronger than everyone else. I remember watching you in training camp as beat reporters would put out a video saying oh, dk. And I'd go, oof. Dk, that's, that's not a good cut. But you're getting it done. You're a rookie and you look good on a whole route tree and I think your future is bright. So I apologize for being wrong about my thoughts on your agility.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, DK's been a pleasant surprise.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean we all knew he's.
Andy Holloway
A decent quarterback too.
Jason Moore
That helps. We all knew he was as freakish as it gets in the landscape of NFL freak athletes. He's just a beast. But there was some skepticism. You know, you really didn't see much in college. Wasn't even the leading receiver on his own team. And you know, there were questions about can he do more? Can he do everything needed as an NFL wide receiver or is he just a great athlete? And I think he's going to get the job done, have a great career.
Andy Holloway
Quick follow up, dynasty wise. You know, the apology and everything, what you've seen this year. Are you actually more excited about DK Metcalf long term now?
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, I think DK Metcalf has a solid wide receiver. Two to wide receiver, one career for the next, you know, seven years.
Andy Holloway
All right, Mike, are you prepared?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Is this going to be difficult for you?
Mike Wright
It will be. It may be difficult for the person as well.
Jason Moore
Interesting.
Mike Wright
I need to talk about Amari Cooper.
Andy Holloway
Oh, dear.
Mike Wright
Amari Cooper. And to be fair to this apology, because I'm nothing but fair, I agree. I questioned some things about you over this summer, but they were related to your consistency, never to your talent or ability, because we saw you be an incredible wide receiver in the NFL, and then we saw the other game, and then we saw you vanish into thin air as if you just didn't really care what was happening. To my credit, through the first six weeks, I looked very correct because about 50% of the time, fantasy players were happy with you. However, things. Things are turning the right direction, you have become more consistent as the year has gone on. I apologize to you, Amari Cooper.
Andy Holloway
To my credit, that was.
Jason Moore
That's definitely the best part of your apologies. But I was right for a little bit.
Andy Holloway
I apologize for 50% or something.
Mike Wright
Just a little bit.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Mari has been incredible for Dak, too. Do you. You know they haven't come to a new. New terms on a new deal, but you expect him back in Dallas, do you not?
Jason Moore
I. Yes. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I would. All right. They'll get the band together.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. What do you think about Randall Cobb having a nice week last week? Was that just shocking to you?
Mike Wright
A little bit random? I mean, we'll talk about it in the matchups, but he. He set up this week, all right?
Jason Moore
I mean, Patriots, Bills, Bears, Rams is going to be a rough stretch in a couple of weeks.
Andy Holloway
Or will it?
Jason Moore
Well, we'll see.
Andy Holloway
All right, Mike, you're gonna enjoy mine. James Connor, I did question a lot about your ability and talent. And while I have to be honest, I'm not sure if I like you because Jalen Samuels is so slow and Brooks James is so nothing.
Jason Moore
And Benny Snell.
Andy Holloway
Benny Snell is so hurt. But the truth is, James, you were dealt a rough hand this year. No, Big Ben, he was dealt pocket twos, pocket two, three. But what's impressed me is that you are a really competent receiver out of the backfield. You're a. Despite missing games, a top 10 yards after the catch, wide receiver Mike is conducting this apology with his hands.
Mike Wright
This is how our players harp.
Andy Holloway
You're catching 90% of passes and you are so far and away better than the other players on that team. And because of that, you can overcome a defense first Mason Rudolph situation to become a very relevant fantasy running back.
Jason Moore
That's. That's what the team said. They say we're a defense first Mason Rudolph third type of team.
Andy Holloway
That's.
Jason Moore
That's their mentality. That's that. That's the sign up when they go out of the locker room. They all hit that on the way out at the top. Defense first, Mason Rudolph third to get.
Andy Holloway
Petty for a second. Real, real petty. I can't stand Mason Rudolph's high white socks.
Jason Moore
That is real. Now you did call it yourself out on this, but that is real. Real.
Andy Holloway
Such a weird player because I don't want to like, take any away. Anything away from. He's been able to execute. We talked about it yesterday. The offensive line has been amazing for him. I've never seen a player that looks worse on his bad plays. Like he looks incompetent when he's bad. Not just like, oh, I made a little mistake. He looks like he's a complete green quarterback. First play of his life.
Mike Wright
He's a Martian.
Andy Holloway
Yes, that's what I'm getting at. No, just, just like a trubisky. Just brand new.
Mike Wright
I see.
Andy Holloway
And then. But he's made great plays and he's using his wide receivers in the winning game. So you got to give credit where credit is due. Shall we move on, gentlemen? The Pittsburgh defense, Minka Fitzpatrick, is the best quarterback that they've ever had.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
All right, we have to laugh at this because poor Al Borland. Nobody's posted more jumping out of a window gifts in the last like seven days than Al Borland. I traded him George Kittle in one of our leagues right at the trade deadline for his stretch run.
Jason Moore
He paid up.
Andy Holloway
He paid up. And Kittle is torturing this man. He's nodding in sadness, tears rolling down his face. George Kittle, yesterday afternoon it was reported he's going to miss the game against the Cardinals. He's out, which I do expect him to.
Jason Moore
I mean, expect he's going to miss the game.
Andy Holloway
And then this morning there was a clarification put out by Shanahan that he's not been formally Ruled out. Which simply means you as a fantasy owner, Al and everyone out there with an incredible George Kittle asset are going to be tortured by the illustrious Q. Not allowing him to be moved into your IR spot because he's not been formally ruled out.
Mike Wright
Was that first report from Ross Dwelly?
Andy Holloway
If I were Ross Dwelly, I might try to do that based on the Cardinals tight end defense.
Mike Wright
He's just. He's going with the Oprah's secret. He's just putting it out into the universe.
Andy Holloway
Letting it happen.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
So right now, no formal rule out, but don't expect George Kittle. Make your plans now. Make your free agent signings now.
Mike Wright
Well, like Matt Burrida is not ruled out as well. Right.
Andy Holloway
He's expected to miss one to two weeks.
Mike Wright
I know, but he's ruled out.
Jason Moore
Except on the other side. He's probably going to end up being in the game because he for a quarter.
Andy Holloway
I think he actually misses to give straightforward advice. Breida should miss a game or two. But you're right, nothing formal that hurts the team if you can't put them into the IR spot. Couple of injury updates before we get into our matchups. Jacoby Brissette is expected to start week 11.
Mike Wright
That's great news.
Jason Moore
So he practiced in full yesterday, so it's just a matter of today. If there's no swelling and everything is good to go, then he's a green light.
Andy Holloway
Austin Hooper expected to be out a month. Keep your eyes on Russell Gage over the next handful of weeks. Snap counts, target share was already okay.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Now Austin Hooper's gone.
Jason Moore
That's a great point. I've been bringing up Calvin Ridley as a guy that I think is going to have a really nice stretch run here. And I, and I do believe that. But you can't just go get Calvin Ridley. Whereas Russell Gage, he's out there on your waivers. You can go scoop him up.
Mike Wright
And he sounds like an action star.
Jason Moore
Oh, dude. Russell Gage and Vin Diesel in the new Sharknado.
Mike Wright
See, I feel like I feed season a revenge movie in the new movie.
Andy Holloway
Mediocre slot receiver.
Mike Wright
He was a gumshoe detective.
Andy Holloway
Russell Gage, hot take right here. I'd rather have Russell Gage on my roster rest of the season than Larry Fitzgerald.
Mike Wright
So I don't think it's that hot.
Andy Holloway
Okay. I thought it was. All right. Matt Burrito, like I said, one to two weeks. Tyler Lockett is expected to be ready to play Week 12 after the bye week. David Montgomery, limited in practice. Gerald Everett, limited. Dede returned to practice Wednesday how do you approach Jacksonville? I am very. I am extremely. I think they're a trap this week is my point. I think they're a trap against Washington.
Mike Wright
You mean the Colts?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, sorry. The Colts. Okay with. With Foals coming back.
Mike Wright
All right.
Andy Holloway
With Dee Dee coming back, I just want to see it to believe it. Are you all in on. On Jacksonville?
Jason Moore
I am very excited for what could happen to Jacksonville because I do think Nick Foles, the city is a. Yes. Is a better quarterback than Gardner Minshew and the team has already been producing some really excellent fantasy options. A DJ Chark, Leonard Fournette. I'm excited to see them progress forward, but I'm definitely taking a wait and see approach. It's a hopeful benching of Dede Westbrook. You know you'll still start DJ Chark because you probably have to at this point and Fournette. But with I'm not playing Foles, I'm not playing dd. But I am hopeful.
Mike Wright
I'm willing to play Dee Dee. His target share and everything. It was safe. I get it was. It was Gardner. But everything of Nick Foles that we know about him, I think I relying not just on the preseason but just the entire body of work of Nick.
Andy Holloway
Foles using week one coming back off the injury. Week one of Nick Foles and against the pretty competent Colts defense.
Jason Moore
The injury is my concern. I've said this this week on the show. I'm taking a stop calling your shot approach if you're not a star, right. Like James Conner is a star fantasy running back. He's coming back off of the. He goes right in my lineup. But Dee Dee is a guy that he's going to have to prove it to me from here on out.
Andy Holloway
News and notes is always brought to you by the sleeper app. Tomorrow we'll have in and out on the show. We're going to tweak in and out a little bit. We're going to focus that down to just the really big names that you need predictions on because we've got the game day alerts coming every Sunday morning. A lot changes with Friday practice reports Saturday and then we've got Sunday live. Mike's live on Sunday morning with last minute injury reports. So we'll get you analysis updates on the biggest names tomorrow that people are doubting their availability and so you can stay tuned for that. You guys ready for some forecasts?
Mike Wright
Mm.
Jason Moore
Fantasy forecast.
Andy Holloway
All right, we've got the Broncos, Texans, Jags, Patriots, Eagles, Redskins, all coming back off the by. Welcome back to your lineup, Packers Giant Seahawks, Titans on by this week. And if you're planning ahead, Cardinals, maybe Christian Kirk, Kyler Murray, you got the Chiefs.
Jason Moore
That's a big one.
Andy Holloway
Big one. No, Patrick Mahomes and company. Chargers and Vikings next week. Dalvin Cook.
Mike Wright
That's a rough one.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. There's a lot of very big fantasy players that'll be missing week 12, and that could be very, very important for your fantasy team in terms of the playoff run. All right, let's get into our first matchup. The Cowboys, at five and four, take on the Detroit Lions. They're three five and one. Cowboys are three point favorites on the road here. It's a 511 1/2 point over under. Yes, that line. That over under certainly implies the return of Matthew Stafford.
Jason Moore
That has to. I mean, it's crazy because. How dare you? Is that Driscoll? Yes. Yeah, I mean, I think you have to have Stafford here if you're going to hit that number. But, Matt, Patricia has really created a defense that says, well, maybe not. Maybe you can score all the time.
Andy Holloway
Would that be Patricia or would that be Driscoll willing to give points up? Maybe. You know, if Driscoll throws, it's a team effort. If he throws for a touchdown, it doesn't matter what team he goes, it still goes to the over under.
Jason Moore
That's true.
Andy Holloway
No matter which team scores on his path. But Detroit's given up the fifth most fantasy points to quarterbacks over the last month. They are, as you said, completely vulnerable to all positions. One of the worst defenses in terms of fantasy points allowed. Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott, Amari Cooper, those are your locked and loaded starts. When you look at question marks on the Dallas side, it's, do I play Michael Gallup again? Do I take a shot on Randall Cobb in deep leagues and am I willing to start? The pedestrian, man.
Mike Wright
Jason Whitten, the pedestrian.
Andy Holloway
Yes, the pedestrian, because he is four more targets every game. They're not sexy and they're not special, but Jason Whitten's out there, and you know he's out there.
Mike Wright
Don't run.
Jason Moore
Walk.
Andy Holloway
That's right.
Mike Wright
The pedestrian.
Jason Moore
Pedestrian.
Mike Wright
In theaters this Friday.
Andy Holloway
Starring former Monday Night Football analyst.
Mike Wright
But does he leave that off his resume?
Andy Holloway
I don't. I don't. I put that on. I don't care how bad it, you know, Booger's gonna have it on. Booger's not there for forever. There's no way Booger's hanging around. I wish there was a button on my remote for just Booger. Mute everything I hear Everything else. But when Booger talks. Sorry. Michael Gallup, is he a smash play this week against the Lions?
Mike Wright
He should be.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, I don't think you could say he's a smash play. He's certainly a guy that, you know, can get it done. He had a, you know, a touchdown last week. The last two weeks he's had a touchdown and he's a talented receiver in a plus matchup. I like that. But it's. It's one of those situations where he hasn't been great. He's really disappointed after those first three weeks where he was the first three games. I should say he missed a couple weeks in there. He had everybody salivating at the potential of this one, two punch from Cooper.
Mike Wright
And gal's from the salt lick.
Jason Moore
And I don't get that.
Andy Holloway
It's a horse.
Mike Wright
It's a horse joke.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I got. I did take me a couple seconds because Gollum.
Jason Moore
Yeah, okay, I'm there. I don't. I'm not super familiar with the Salt Lake.
Andy Holloway
I think. I think we've seen some interesting things from Gallup. He's actually in the category of receiver that has a very high yards from scrimmage per touch. He's in the Evans, Metcalf, Diggs, Mike Williams category where I think we thought if Cooper went out, Gallup would become this PPR guy. Well, he's more of a big play guy, touchdown guy. Good game last week, but I think you can start him in this match.
Mike Wright
I think you can as well.
Andy Holloway
Cooper helps him is kind of the point of that story.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he's more of a Robin at this point in his career. What's a little bit concerning is if you just look back at the recent games, I mean, you're doing some box score surfing here. But when he's having. He had the great game against Minnesota because game script dictated that the Cowboys needed to throw. You go back a couple weeks against the Giants, it was a blowout, was barely used. Yeah, he had the touchdown of. Against Philadelphia, a blowout was barely used. So that's, that's the concern with Gallup. His. His ceiling is incredible. 4 for 76 with a touchdown last week. But I think his floor is very low. He's volatile and should not be played as a safe wide receiver too.
Andy Holloway
Would you feel more confidence if Stafford is indeed playing on the other side and someone that can run up the score?
Jason Moore
Yes, definitely. Stafford being in this game makes a huge difference because I don't think Driscoll is going to get it done enough. Against what is a, I think an above average Dallas defense. So yeah, if Stafford is here, I like Gallup a lot more.
Andy Holloway
All right. On the other side of the ball, Golladay and Jones, are they both being started for you at home regardless of the quarterback situation?
Mike Wright
Yeah. Wait, no, no, not regard. I take it back.
Jason Moore
Not.
Mike Wright
Regardless, I'll still play Kenny Galladay, I mean even if it's Jeff Driscoll. But, but Marvin Jones, I mean he's, he's pretty similar to the way I feel about Michael Gallup where you can play him as a 2. But he's just, he's not safe. He's not safe at all.
Jason Moore
And the thing is, is Dallas's defense against wide receivers has been great. I mean they really have not given up. They've given up. One big week on the season, one big score. Shockingly, that was to Sam Darnold, very unexpected. Outside of that, there's not been a lot of feasting here, you know, by wide receivers against Dallas on the season.
Andy Holloway
I wish we didn't have. I wish we were able to stay in the fire in flames that Matthew Stafford had been putting up because that was a wonderful three game stretch and you know, it's just better for everybody. It's better for Hawkinson hopes it's better for Marvin. Any interest in the running back situation at all in Detroit? Detroit. J.D. mcKissick. You know, if Ty Johnson's out, we talked about maybe a flex dart throw.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's certainly possible. He had 10 carries and seven targets this past week. You. I would expect those targets to continue at least be in the 4 to 5 range. But that was also a product of necessity where the game plan was to use ty Johnson and McKissick. Now if they're planning to move forward, that Johnson is not going to be there. What does that split actually look like? Will McKissick get double digit carries?
Jason Moore
I doubt it.
Mike Wright
So he's, he's still an okay dart throwing PPR leagues.
Andy Holloway
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Andy Holloway
All right. Jacksonville going to Indianapolis. The Jags are 4 and 5. They get Nick Foles back. The Colts are 5 and 4. They get Jacoby Brissette back.
Mike Wright
Ooh.
Andy Holloway
Games only got a 43 1/2 point over under. The Colts are 2 1/2 point favorites. I lean the under and I actually look at this matchup and not finding a lot of smash plays for me.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's hard to disagree. I'll just start with the Jacksonville side. Like DJ Chark. I don't know how you possibly bench Chark at this point.
Andy Holloway
I don't think you can bench Chark at all. I think you have to.
Jason Moore
But man, risky.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And just, just not a top 15 guy this week.
Mike Wright
Sure. Yeah. It does seem like the ceiling is capped. The Colts are strong against fantasy wide receivers. They are 10th, allowing just over 25 points a game to the position. But like back to dede, I mean, you saw it once again. It was the preseason game, but Nick Foles went almost exclusively to him 9 target. He was injured. So let me ask. Let me frame it this way. If Dee Dee Westbrook were not coming.
Andy Holloway
Off the injury, I would still wait a week.
Mike Wright
You would still be waiting.
Andy Holloway
I would. Because we didn't. We didn't see it manifest in, in the regular season yet with Foles. Foles was coming off the injury. Solid defense on the road. I would play Russell Gage over dd. I would play.
Mike Wright
Wow.
Andy Holloway
A lot of those type of guys over DD because he has not done anything to prove anything to me.
Jason Moore
I think these are 6 for 103.
Andy Holloway
Yes, he had a game, but he hasn't had a game with Foles yet. And he. You're saying you play Shark over Westbrook, right?
Jason Moore
Yes.
Andy Holloway
So then you're looking at a secondary option on a run, first team on the road with a low over under. It's not a situation that I personally. Look, I have nothing against dd, but I like opportunities for, you know, other players a lot more than I do this week.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Coming into the season, you know, we hadn't seen anything between Dee Dee and Nick Foles and we were willing to play him week one for a really good option. But things have changed. I mean, DJ Chark was not anything special coming into week one to the fantasy community, we didn't see that breakout necessarily coming. And now I do worry that Dee Dee is going to be the two. So I want to see. I want to wait and see.
Mike Wright
Okay. Dee Dee Westbrook or devonte Parker against Buffalo?
Andy Holloway
I'll play devonte Parker.
Jason Moore
That one.
Andy Holloway
Dee Dee Westbrook. Here's what you need from him. You need a lot. He's the lowest in the NFL. Average depth of target, it's 6.1 yards. He's a PPR, so he has to be. He has to come back from injury and then tack on a pile of them. I don't know if he gets in the end zone. I just don't. I think the name is not worthy of the praise yet. It's just. It's just my opinion.
Jason Moore
Sure.
Andy Holloway
He'S averaged 45 yards a game and he's talented, but it's Chris Conley's there too. Chris Conley's been active and involved. He's been active and Leonard Fournette has. He's going to be the main man. Leonard Fournette, RB5 on the week. That's where we have him. Marlon Mack. Where are you at with Marlon Mack? It hasn't been smooth sailing big games lately.
Jason Moore
No, it hasn't been smooth sailing big games, but Mack has still been very good. I mean, you're talking about, you know, he's not a guy that's going to finish the week at running back 40 and his face is saying that he has not been good.
Andy Holloway
You know, I'm just reading this line. I'm so. This was a shock to me. Since week seven, he's the RB39.
Jason Moore
Wow.
Andy Holloway
Averaging 10 fantasy points per game.
Jason Moore
Now, is that on a. That can't be true.
Andy Holloway
That can't be.
Jason Moore
No, I don't think that's. I'M going to. Because I think when. Let me see.
Mike Wright
The thing about it is it's just touchdowns. He has three rushing touchdowns, but you look back, 74 yards, 89, 76 with a touchdown, he's been perfectly fine. He's just not giving you burst games like you were.
Andy Holloway
That can't be right. That can't be right. But you're right. Yeah. I mean, three touchdowns on the season. He had that monster week one that really defined where his placement is on the season long totals. But I think that, you know, Jacksonville's a pretty competent defense, so I wouldn't expect a ceiling play here for Marlon Mack.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, I think he could have a really good game. I do. I don't. Jacksonville isn't a. I don't think you have to be just a. The worst defense in the world to give up a good game. They aren't a shut down rush defense. And I think with Jacoby Brissette back, the Colts offense running well, we don't expect Ty Hilton necessarily to be back. So I think they're going to rely on Mack and I think he could have a fine game.
Mike Wright
How do you feel about Zach Pascal, who should be the one again? He did not come through last week, but mostly because Brian Hoyer did not come through against the Miami Dolphins. But now you have Jacoby Brissette.
Andy Holloway
I don't have any confidence in Zach Pascal.
Jason Moore
All right. Marlon Mack is the running back is still bad these last four weeks from seven on, but he is the running back 19.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I would say if you look at the season and the expectations in week one, would you say that you are disappointed in Marlon Mack? He hasn't had a top 10 finish at all since week one.
Jason Moore
I mean, sure, he had a.
Andy Holloway
He had a 36, 51, 26, 30.
Jason Moore
I mean he had a running back 11 and running back 12. So to say top 10. It seems accurate. It seems nitpicking, a narrative. He's had, you know, multiple top running back one week. No, but if you say top 12.
Andy Holloway
It'S not nitpicking, a narrative. It's saying that like, you know, when you look at all the players that rank above him or staples of your team, you expect them to litter in some weeks that win you weeks.
Jason Moore
Sure. Right. How do you feel about Leonard Fournette?
Andy Holloway
Josh Jacobs, four straight.
Jason Moore
How about Leonard Fournette last four weeks you have. Has he been.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, because he's the running.
Jason Moore
Back 17, whereas Max the running back 19 over these last four weeks.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So, I mean they are guys where.
Andy Holloway
But he didn't. He didn't really beat you up. Mac beats you up a little bit in the last six weeks.
Mike Wright
To be fair to Marla Mack, the last two weeks, he hasn't had his starting quarterback.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's true. He's got him back, right?
Mike Wright
Yep.
Andy Holloway
And he's going to be played on your team, so maybe we're wasting our breath. Pascal. Jason, do you have confidence in him?
Jason Moore
No.
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
Okay. And Devin Funches could be returning to practice. Do we have. Do we even have the drop in here?
Jason Moore
I don't know. But I mean, Devin, I mean, this.
Andy Holloway
Is maybe on the first board.
Jason Moore
Let's see.
Andy Holloway
Let's see.
Jason Moore
It's been a long time, man.
Andy Holloway
We've got nothing. We've got nothing.
Mike Wright
It's better that way.
Andy Holloway
He's got to earn his way back.
Jason Moore
I was trying to buy you time.
Andy Holloway
There's nothing I could do. All right. Broncos, vikings. Broncos are 3 and 6. Vikings 7 and 3. Brandon Allen gets another opportunity. Kirk Cousins at home in this one. And they're ten and a half point favorites. It's a 40.5 over, under. And in case you're curious, that means the Broncos are not projected to score very many points in this one. We've talked a little bit about Philip Lindsay this week. Confidence. He's our RB19 on the week. Whereas Dalvin Cook on the other side, the RB2, he's been a top five running back seven out of nine games. An absolute monster this season. Do you think Adam Thielen will be back this week? Because I do not.
Jason Moore
I do not either, but I think we. We need more information as the week goes on to be sure about that.
Mike Wright
Did not practice on Wednesday.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, I guess I wouldn't have necessarily expected him to practice on Wednesday. Today's practice is going to be. If he's a. Did not participate today, then I don't. I don't think.
Andy Holloway
I think you might. Speaking to Feeling alone. I guess it does depend on the practice reports. But if he didn't practice Wednesday and we. Two weeks ago he played one play and left the field. And you play a Denver defense ranked third against the pass. Are you just hands off a Thielen? I mean, is there any reason that you're messing with that kind of risk in week 11?
Jason Moore
I mean, the reason is the upside of a healthy Thielen who is obviously a great fantasy option. But I think you're right. I think there is a David Johnson situation here where there's a lot of risk. Built into actually playing Thielen if he's active.
Andy Holloway
All right. The. By the way, the Vikings are still leading the league in highest rush play percentage. So they've been able to win. They're seven and three. They've been able to carry out the Mike Zimmer goal, run the football. And then we've still had some, you know, a really efficient Kirk Cousins. Do you play Cousins at home in this game? Are you willing to mess around with that or is he just kind of.
Jason Moore
A. I'm not willing to play Cousins at home. I think that the Denver Broncos defense is starting to click with Vic Fangio. The beginning of the year, they were supposed to be this great defense and they were trash. And it was like, what is going on, Denver? And I think we got this inclination that Denver is a really easy opponent. They were losing a lot of games in general and then fantasy wise, a lot of, you know, huge running back games against Denver early on. But really, I think over the last few weeks we've seen a defense that is playing very well, clicking, understanding the system. And I don't think Kirk Cousins has been good enough to warrant playing in a non plus matchup. And I view this as a non plus matchup.
Mike Wright
Now, having said that, Jason, would you play Kirk Cousins or Philip Rivers?
Jason Moore
Come on, man. Oh, fuck, man. So Philip Rivers, who I hate now. I didn't, but last week I made him my start of the week and he looked terrible. He looked washed, he looked awful. Is and was on my team.
Andy Holloway
Any other adjectives you want to use for poor old Phil?
Jason Moore
Thesaurus? Awful. Okay. And all of them. But I am playing him this week.
Mike Wright
Oh, oh, you're back. You're back.
Jason Moore
I'm not happy about it, but he's playing against Kansas City and that, you know, basically I had to come down to the this decision.
Andy Holloway
But you're doing that over Carson Wentz.
Jason Moore
I am doing that over Carson Wentz and I'm also. You could throw another name out there because it was really my only pivot. It was Kyle Allen and I just didn't have the confidence. And I know Atlanta, you know, they could be beat, but I would rather go with a vet against in a high scoring game against Kansas City than Kyle Allen.
Andy Holloway
Can I add to what you're saying and just say I'm very much looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
Jason Moore
It's a Monday night game and one.
Andy Holloway
Of the reasons I'm enjoying it is Kyle Allen will already have played.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And the thing is, is we're playing against each other on Monday night. You have my homes. I have Philip Rivers. So it's not going to go well for me.
Andy Holloway
It'll be fun. Speaking of Allen's, we got Brandon Allen. Okay, we've got Brandon Allen. I don't mind playing Cortland Sutton. He feels like a very stable, you know, slightly better Tyler Boyd situation where, you know he's going to get the majority of the target share.
Mike Wright
Yeah, over 25%.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I don't mind playing him at all. Jason, you're the highest on him this week. At wide receiver 15. I think it makes sense. Philip Rivers. We have running back 19. Like I said, Royce Freeman.
Mike Wright
Lindsay.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, sorry. Philip Rivers on the mind. Royce Freeman, RB30 on the Week. It's tough to have confidence about either of those guys because scoring opportunities should be very limited in Minnesota. And then the Vikings defense just giving up 16 total points to running backs. Both of them seem like real hesitant. I'm stuck with them plays this week. Noah Fant. Yes, Noah Fant seems intriguing. Last two weeks, a 27% and 22% target share.
Mike Wright
Also known as the two weeks without Emmanuel Sanders.
Andy Holloway
Exactly. And it changes things a lot. Just like it did on the positive side for the 49ers. Is Noah Fant somebody that you are in your streaming consideration this week? Mike?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Oh, sorry. Jason or Mike. Either one.
Mike Wright
Oh, Jason's very excited to talk about Fant.
Jason Moore
He is definitely in the streaming consideration because what you look for in a streamer is someone with the opportunity. Right. Who is actually involved in the game plan on the. In a passing role. And there aren't many guys out there that are available on waivers that are as involved in the offense as Noah Fanta is. The problem is he's really shown himself to be a rookie and not produce as much as you'd like on each target coming his way. And now the targets are worse. So that's the downside. The upside is opportunity, but talent and opportunity are there. So I am willing to have him in consideration. That's not to say that there are.
Andy Holloway
I'm very curious about him. I. You know, last week was the break or the last game he played was the breakout. The week before he came the week before he had nine targets.
Jason Moore
Right.
Andy Holloway
So when you say the targets are worse, you mean that in the context of Brandon Allen's throwing them.
Jason Moore
Exactly.
Andy Holloway
Which is. It's hard to call any target worse than a Joe Flacco target.
Jason Moore
Difficult, but I've done it.
Mike Wright
He also saw a nice uptick in snaps throughout the middle of the season he was basically playing on about 65%. Then once Sanders was gone, that jumped into the 80s. So it's. He is. You need to pay attention. It stinks to have to stream him against the Minnesota Vikings. Not. Not really because the matchup against the Vikings and the tight end is terrible. They're 14th. But for. For Brandon Allen, this should. Is going to be a really tough matchup. Much tougher than his debut against the.
Andy Holloway
Browns on the other side. Kyle Rudolph actually think you can stream him this week? If. No. Adam Thielen.
Mike Wright
Yeah, if Adam Thielen is out, I agree with you.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Four touchdowns over three weeks. We'll talk about them a little bit later. Believe it or not, the Texans Ravens. Texans 6 and 3, Ravens 7 and 2. This should be a really fun game. Two of the most dynamic and best fantasy quarterback in the game. It is.
Mike Wright
These two guys are the future of the quarterback position. Yes, Patrick Mahomes is as well, but Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson, this is. We are very lucky that they are matched up this year.
Andy Holloway
One of the reasons Lamar Jackson has been so incredible for your fantasy team, sure, he's scored a ton of points, but it's the way he's done it. He was a discount in the draft and he's been extremely consistent week to week. He's averaging 78 rushing yards a game. That might be the dictionary definition of consistency. If you put 78 on the board as the quarterback on average, you're just not going to end up at the bottom of the.
Mike Wright
No, you won't.
Andy Holloway
The, you know, 20. He's not going to ever end up in that 20s range. Six top five quarterback performances just for.
Jason Moore
So people can understand how big that is for normal scoring, which is, you know, dumb for quarterbacks. But the 78 rushing yards a game, that is an average of. If you were to translate it to passing yards, 200 passing yards a game, baseline added to whatever he does, that's. That's what some quarterbacks finish a game with, right?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's absolutely right. And when you look at him and compare him to somebody that's been very good on the season, like Russell Wilson. Well, Wilson's finished, you know, kind of out. He's had like five kind of duddy weeks, five monster weeks. But Lamar is giving to you every week, as is Deshaun Watson for the most part. Five top five QB performances. I'm super excited to see what happens here. You're playing both of those guys automatically.
Jason Moore
I want pieces in this game wherever I can find Them even.
Mike Wright
Wow. Even Carlos.
Jason Moore
I think I even mean Carlos. That's not saying. Like, I'm super excited and I wish I could plug him in, but he's in that flex consideration where when I'm deciding between all these different flex options where there's reasons why they're flexible and there's plenty of reasons against them, which is pretty much all your flex decisions. One of my biggest tiebreakers is games that I think could go bananas. And this is a game Vegas has it at 49 points. I think it hits the over because these two quarterbacks are just too good.
Andy Holloway
40. Yeah. And 49 point over under Ravens. Four and a half point home favorites. If you're a GM right now, which quarterback do you would you rather have for your franchise?
Jason Moore
Watson.
Mike Wright
Watson.
Jason Moore
Watson's a better passer. He's a better passer than Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is maybe a better weapon than desean Watson, but I think going forward, longevity, long term, quality of the quarterback play, you know, will people be able to figure out over time, you know, Lamar Jackson is still. This is really his first year now.
Andy Holloway
The answer for me is no. They won't be able to figure it out. They didn't figure Vic out ever.
Jason Moore
I mean, you can't figure out extreme athleticism.
Andy Holloway
Right. That's all my. I lean Lamar. But both are incredible.
Mike Wright
Do you have any, like, do you have any concerns next year if Greg Roman leaves? Greg Roman, the offensive coordinator. He has to be up. Up at the top of head coach and candidates. He will be offered jobs.
Andy Holloway
I don't think so.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
I don't think I'm concerned about that. I think they, you know, he's got a second year of establishing what he does and he's going to improve and continue to like the.
Mike Wright
The narrative of we like Lamar because Greg Roman's coming in because you saw what he did with Tyrod. Tyrod got worse when Greg Roman left.
Jason Moore
The nice thing is Kaepernick had his.
Mike Wright
Best years with Greg Roman.
Andy Holloway
No doubt.
Jason Moore
It's easy to trust good franchises and coaches.
Mike Wright
Exactly.
Jason Moore
Harbaugh and that organization, they. They brought Greg Roman in because they knew what they were doing. And so I have trust in the organization.
Andy Holloway
All right, Mike Duke Johnson or Carlos Hyde, who would you rather flex in this game?
Mike Wright
Half points. It's going to be Carlos Hyde. If it's full ppr, I might give the edge to Duke Johnson, who has had five targets three weeks in a row.
Andy Holloway
Marquis Brown. We'll talk about him soon. Jason's the highest at wide receiver. 19 Right now I think there's a lot of upside to him.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
22% target share seems healthy. Hopkins, he's in. Will Fuller should return, maybe in a limited capacity. I'm personally hands off of Fuller and Stills.
Mike Wright
I agree.
Andy Holloway
Darren Fells, Mark Andrews. Andrews is an auto start. Fells is the. He's in that category of he's an auto stream. Is he?
Mike Wright
He is.
Andy Holloway
He's an auto stream. So basically every week you can think about it.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And you know, going back to my belief of this game being able to be one where a ton of points are scored, if you got it, if you get into the game script where it's back and forth, that's a game where Darren Fells falls over for a touchdown.
Andy Holloway
All right, jets at 2 and 7 take on the Redskins at 1 and 8. Redskins are 1 point favorites. Makes my comment earlier in the week that Washington was going to win the game seem a little less hot. Takey Dwayne Haskins will get the start against Sam Darnold. I believe that this is going to be a low scoring game. This is going to be. Vegas has it at 38 and a half. I'm not really excited. Pace of play wise, the Redskins are going to slow the game down as much as possible. I heard a stat from JJ Zacharysson that basically highlighted like pass attempts of quarterbacks facing the redskins. It's like 22. That's what they average on the year. So you don't. You look at the Redskins as juicy matchup, but they don't. They slow the game down and all of a sudden you look up, it's, you know, two minutes left in the third quarter. You're like, where are my passing points? And leaning on Sam Darnold to break out on the road.
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
On 22 pass attempts and be efficient.
Jason Moore
Yeah, this is a game that could end up finishing quickly because there's more running involved in a lower scoring game. I mean, you have two pretty bad defenses here. But when you look at fantasy points given up, they're just middle of the pack and you go, why aren't they a great play? And the reason is what you just said, Andy, is the game doesn't turn into any barn burner and there's no need. That's why, like you look at the Redskins defense, the one place that they are really susceptible to in fantasy is running backs because the other team is up and they just keep running the ball.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the running back situation in Washington is a bit of an enigma today or right now. You have Adrian Peterson who was dealing with an ankle, was limited with a toe. Darius Geist returns. Bill Callahan came out and said, we've got a pretty good rotational system for Darius, guys and Adrian Peterson. He says, we feel pretty confident Geist will see quite a bit of action this weekend. And then Peterson isn't worried about his workload. He said, coach Gruden was here, he's no longer here. So kind of different scenario.
Mike Wright
Wow.
Andy Holloway
And Chris Thompson is still out.
Mike Wright
Peterson.
Andy Holloway
So where are you at with this situation? Bill Callahan is happy to hand over the football as often as possible, protect his rookie quarterback.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they're going to try to have, you know, between these two backs, they're going to try to have 35 carries. I don't know that they'll be able to do that. But then what we've seen so far is game script doesn't matter. They're going to keep running the ball even when they're down. So the issue is just the split between AP and Geist. If I had to start one, it would clearly be ap. I don't really love either option because with it being a low scoring game and a split, it's kind of like taking a wide receiver two for Lamar Jackson. It's like, okay, Lamar's great, but there's such low passing volume. When you split up the stats between multiple players, you look at target share and market share and all that, you go, I need all of it in order to have a good game. So I'm kind of out on both running backs here.
Andy Holloway
I feel like Bill Callahan has been put in a tough position this week because the jets defense is giving it up to the wide receiver position the last three weeks. If you look at our stream finder tool, holy guacamole. The jets just given up so many points to wide out. So you look at Terry McLaurin and you say, can he be opportunistic here? The just defense allowing the seventh most passing yards in the NFL. So what does Dwayne Haskins look like in a plus matchup for throwing the football, but with a coach that likes to run?
Mike Wright
I have no interest in playing Dwayne Haskins. But yeah, I'm back in on Terry McLaurin this week. It's been a rough stretch including the slop fest and McLaurin or I'm sorry, Haskins having to come in and looking like a deer in headlights. But he's had plenty of time now to prepare to be the starter and it maybe it's not a high volume for Terry McLaurin. The volume we would like. But I think he will be efficient enough that you're going to be happy.
Andy Holloway
So in this game, head to head, Jameson Crowder, who's been pretty good.
Mike Wright
Oh, revenge.
Andy Holloway
80 yards and a touchdown in each of his last two games. Jameson Crowder or Terry McClaurin in this one? Washington at home, who do you prefer?
Jason Moore
Terry.
Mike Wright
I. It's. That's tough because I think Jameson is the safer play as in he. His opportunity to bust is lower. But I would prefer to have Terry.
Andy Holloway
And then Robbie Anderson. Demarius Thomas. Hey, are you staying away?
Mike Wright
Staying away from Robbie demarius Thomas is. He's a strange case because he's getting so many of the targets. A 20% target share, nine this past week, but then five for 63. I mean, he's been okay as a desperation play.
Andy Holloway
All right. The Falcons at two and seven take on the Panthers in Carolina Panthers, five and a half point favorites. It's a 49 and a half point over under the aforementioned Kyle Allen, the new quarterback for the Carolina Panthers. Atlanta has given up six Quarterback 1 performances this year. So a lot of fantasy owners wanting to know Allen or Rivers? Allen or Brady? Allen or Kyler this week. Also Allen or Rivers? That's another question people are asking. Also Rivers vs Allen.
Jason Moore
When waivers were running, I decided it wasn't worth going and getting Kyle Allen spinning, Fab, dropping someone. And as we've gotten closer, looking at the matchup, I go, you thought you.
Mike Wright
Would have to spend Fab to get Kyle Allen?
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean he was picked up, so he was. Yeah, I think so. So I probably have to do that. But I look at this matchup and I just think Kyle Allen's probably going to have a pretty good game.
Andy Holloway
Last week was a strange one. And so I look at Vegas and I say, well, what does Vegas think about the Atlanta resurgence on defense? And they don't think it's legit when you have an Implied point total, 27 and a half for Carolina. They're at home, they're favored the high over under. So very impressive for Atlanta doing what they did against New Orleans. Still optimistic for Kyle Allen. Allen or Matt Ryan? I mean Matt Ryan on the road here traditionally, you know, a 300 plus yard passer every single game.
Jason Moore
Having lost Sanu, having lost Hooper.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, but he still has Julio Jones.
Jason Moore
And he's still Matt.
Andy Holloway
He also lost Devonta Freeman.
Jason Moore
I lean the Matt Ryan or gain.
Andy Holloway
Brian Hill depending on your perspective. You lean the Matt Ryan side. I think he's a safer play for sure. Kyle Allen has a wider range of outcomes. Brian Hill. Love it.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Last week, tons of work in a game where I think Devonta Freeman still had over 30% of the snaps before he got hurt. Christian McCaffrey. Let's not. Let's talk about him. Only to say, you're great. You're great, Christian. Keep it up, partner.
Jason Moore
Go get him.
Andy Holloway
Go get him. DJ Moore. Love him this week. We're going to talk about him shortly. He has been just a target monster of late.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Over his last four games, he's got a 16 game pace of 160 targets.
Andy Holloway
I like it. And so that the real equation here for Kyle Allen in this Carolina offense is that Atlanta does enough on the road that, you know, Matt Ryan can do enough with Russell Gage, Brian Hill, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley's been getting the snaps. He has not been producing for your team. And so are you kind of. Are you trying to find another option this week? Have you just been locking Calvin Ridley in for two weeks?
Mike Wright
I am not trying to find a different option. I mean, I'd rather play Calvin Ridley over a waiver guy like the Demarius Thomas, who's interesting as a desperation player. I would still play Calvin over him.
Jason Moore
Calvin or Crowder?
Mike Wright
Crowder.
Jason Moore
Calvin or Terry?
Mike Wright
Terry.
Jason Moore
I guess you were Terry.
Andy Holloway
All right. And then Russell Gage brought him up as an interesting stash. He plays Tampa next week. So if, you know he's one of those guys that if you put him at the bottom of your bench, even if you don't play him and he has a big week, he's got a nice matchup coming up.
Mike Wright
He's got a pretty solid matchup right now.
Andy Holloway
I agree. But if you want to wait and see. Mike, not all of us want to just throw them in.
Mike Wright
All right.
Jason Moore
Some of us might have to, but.
Andy Holloway
But it won't surprise me if Russell Gage has a better game than Calvin Ridley. Let me put it that way.
Jason Moore
Sure. I mean, you don't know where the targets are going to go. Obviously. I don't think that the Carolina Panthers are focusing in on Russell Gage as.
Andy Holloway
The guy to stop Curtis Samuel this week. Also a solid play. Everybody against Atlanta has been for the most part outside of last week. Although last week you still had nice games for Michael Thomas, Jared Cook, Greg Olson. Big game last week, 8 for 98 on 10 targets.
Jason Moore
He's definitely someone that you can, you know, you should be starting at tight end. He's almost to the point where you go, okay, he's. If he's a must start I don't think you have to start him. There's other guys that I might pivot to. But when you get 10 targets last week and you start to see him getting more involved with Kyle Allen, it gives you. Gives you hope that he can be consistent.
Andy Holloway
Unfortunately, one of the things that happens once you get up there in age, and I think Greg olson's at the 34, 35 range, is we haven't. We have lost some of that, you know, the guaranteed connection that we had with him. And, you know, he had the nice game this past week, but it had been bad for a pretty big run. You wonder what the ceiling is. But you like the 100% of snapshot.
Jason Moore
Yeah. On the other side, do you hold Austin Hooper if he's out four weeks, we're in week 11, 11, 12, 13, 14. You're just saying I'm holding him for the championship and the semifinals.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I hold him really 100%. You hold the number one tight end. You hold him through.
Jason Moore
And would you hold Travis Kelce?
Mike Wright
Fair. It's. That's fair.
Jason Moore
I mean. Yeah, you would.
Andy Holloway
And you got to view Hooper in that lens. And unfortunately, and I'm sorry to tell you this, fantasy owners, your odds are that you're probably playing. I don't know, I know a Fant this week and then like a Joanu next week, and then.
Jason Moore
No, you're playing Abercrombie next week.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Hollister.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
So you're probably rotating with frustration for four weeks. You will be so happy to have Austin Hooper coming back off of an MCL tweak.
Mike Wright
And he will be coming back. If he misses four weeks, he will be coming back against San Francisco on the road.
Jason Moore
So that's your semifinal and you probably want to.
Mike Wright
And then you get Jacksonville in the championship.
Jason Moore
Wait and see. And then. Oh, man.
Andy Holloway
It would be really hard for me to bench Austin hooper in week 15 to play Dernfels.
Jason Moore
Right. If you're. Yes. You're not going to be able to pivot to Hunter Henry right now. So. Yeah, you probably are going to play him against San Francisco.
Andy Holloway
It's really just unfortunate. He's had a career year, obviously leading the position in receptions. It's unfortunate he doesn't get to kind of finish that stat line out.
Jason Moore
But I guess that means if you're one of those teams that has a. You've got Hunter Henry and someone drops.
Andy Holloway
Austin Hooper because you're not picking him up in that situation, are you not competing for.
Jason Moore
Right. I probably wouldn't at that point.
Andy Holloway
All right. Let's do some starts.
Jason Moore
Starts of the week.
Andy Holloway
All right, Mike, why don't you kick.
Mike Wright
It off at the quarterback position. Josh Allen, he gets to play the Miami Dolphins. He has the. The pleasure of playing the Miami Dolphins.
Andy Holloway
He's got the winning streak. Miami Dolphins, the.
Mike Wright
That's true.
Andy Holloway
The longest.
Mike Wright
The longest winning streak currently in the AFC East. He's got the rushing floor. And this is a plus matchups for. For two of his wide receivers. And last year in two games versus Miami and rushing or Josh Allen's rushing. Nine for 135, nine for 95 and two. He just. He's been taking over. There was a total narrative esque, but there was the report this week of the Josh Allen talking with his coach and essentially being really given that green light of saying, okay, Josh Allen, go. Go win the game. You're making the decisions, man. You make it happen.
Andy Holloway
All right, so you're going Josh Allen, Jason.
Jason Moore
I am doing it with Jameis Winston. It's always scary. It's always. It's always a rough sled to put him in your lineup. You can end up with a terrible game. And when you look at the Saints, they are dead middle, as we say. As you say, As I say, against quarterback, they are 16th. And if you look deeper, you go, well, they had. They really sucked the first three weeks of the season, but they've been solid. They have not been bad against quarterback lately. So why would we play Jameis against the team that's been pretty solid against quarterback?
Andy Holloway
Why would you play James?
Jason Moore
Why would we. And the reason is because Marshawn Lattimore, who shut down pretty much everyone he's played against as a shadow corner, including Mike, including Mike Evans, has a hamstring issue that is almost certainly going to make him miss this week. And if Marshawn Lattimore is out, I think Jameis has a great game. Because you know that the Saints are wanting to make amends for last week and just torch the earth. Against Tampa Bay, Jameis will have to throw. And if he's got Mike Evans on one of their other two sucky cornerbacks and Chris Godwin ate against them last time around. I think. I think, you know, Jameis is a great play.
Andy Holloway
All right, I'm going to go with send in the car.
Jason Moore
Send in the car.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Derek Carr against the Cincinnati Bengals. And regardless of whether the Oakland Raiders are able to turn this into a blowout, they will need Derek Carr to get them there. Cincinnati has Given up top 10 fantasy performances to the quarterback in four of their last five games, the Raiders are at home. They are rolling. He's been playing well and believe it or not, he's been a top 12 guy two of the last three weeks.
Mike Wright
Here's what's fantastic. The Oakland Raiders have allowed 12 sacks on the year. Like that's the second best rate. So I mean the league average is about 24.
Andy Holloway
Has Cincinnati sacked anybody this year?
Mike Wright
Cincinnati has the lowest total sacks in the league at 0.
Andy Holloway
10.
Mike Wright
At 10. And so it's.
Jason Moore
Those were trips.
Mike Wright
Those are.
Jason Moore
The quarterback fought, you know, the offensive lineman stepped on the quarterback, he fell down. We got one like this.
Mike Wright
This is a great matchup for Derek Carr to just get it done. And that includes. I didn't make him my start, but ladies and gentlemen, we've been very sad with the walrus.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man. Wait, are you. You're right. You want it?
Jason Moore
Yes.
Andy Holloway
You willing?
Jason Moore
Yes. That was intense.
Andy Holloway
There's again this past weekend we learned that he was open on every play. Every time. Mike watched the games.
Mike Wright
I've reviewed the film.
Jason Moore
Even great plays that result.
Andy Holloway
Oh yeah.
Jason Moore
50 yard touchdown touchdowns. Like, but, but Jared was open.
Mike Wright
Yeah, but when they do those plays, I'm just, I'm like, I am.
Andy Holloway
He's writing a letter.
Mike Wright
No, no, I'm running. I'm running the next gen stats like in real time in my head like a computer.
Jason Moore
You have proof.
Mike Wright
And look the probability of those plays, sure, they worked, but the probability of Darren Waller catching It is 95%.
Andy Holloway
All right. All right. Let's go running backs. Mike. Oh Nelly, please be true.
Mike Wright
I am kind of taking a shot here. I believe Matt Burrito will be out. I'm with Andy. This. He's projected to miss one to two weeks even with his like half Wolverine Powers.
Andy Holloway
We joke about it. He's. He's going to miss the game.
Mike Wright
Yes, well, he, he hasn't been ruled out, but I, I strongly believe Matt Burrito misses the game. Raheem Mostert, he might just be sitting there on your waiver wire right now. They get the rematch against Arizona, but this time San Francisco is at home. Coleman banged up. It was all Mostert in that overtime. He's got the three down skill set. He can catch the ball. Arizona is giving up the eighth most against fantasy running backs. Mostert always delivers when he is given the opportunity. And I think he's got a huge opportunity here.
Andy Holloway
I agree with you. I, I think he showed up with a bit of a limited designation. You do need to keep your eyes peeled. But I think it's a very like Fab dollars weren't spent on Raheem Mostert.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
But he may be just as valuable as my start of the week, Brian Hill. Brian Hill was the most added player this past week and for the $50 man. Yes, for good reason. Carolina has given up the most running back fantasy points over the last month. Last week, like I said, even with Freeman active for a portion of that game, getting 30 plus percent of snaps, he had a very productive volume type of game. No Hooper, no Sanu. He can get some passing game work. So for me, he's a very confident RB2 play this week against Carolina, you just are going to have to use Brian Hill.
Jason Moore
And for me, my start of the week is Joe Mixon, a guy who had a great game last week. 30 for 114 going.
Andy Holloway
He's so happy to be in this segment.
Jason Moore
Well, he's, I mean, fantasy owners still don't know what to do with him because if you've had Mixon, you've felt all of the starts that, that sucked and so you don't know if you can buy into this. But with the transition at quarterback, they said Joe Mixon, they were down two scores and two and a half scores and they're like, we're just giving it to mixing over and over and over. That was their best chance to win.
Mike Wright
Shouldn't we try to win?
Jason Moore
Just give it to Mixon.
Andy Holloway
Pardon me. 48 to 10 was the score and they kicked a field goal to get to 48 to 13. I just want that to hit you. That's called lose by less. I mean, they could barely less.
Mike Wright
Do you know how embarrassing it is to lose when you only have 10 points?
Andy Holloway
It's.
Mike Wright
They laugh in the coaching meetings. Oh my goodness.
Jason Moore
They saved face. Yes, they really, I mean, they went in and we're like, we got 13.
Mike Wright
Oh gosh, guys, that's almost two full touchdowns.
Jason Moore
I just can't believe maybe we, maybe we missed an extra point. You don't know, maybe you didn't watch the game. But the reality is history won't remember. Joe Mixon is the centerpiece of this putrid offense. But against the Raiders, they're, they're not a tough matchup. I think that Mixon can have a really solid game and if you've got him on your roster, I think you should be starting him this week.
Andy Holloway
All right. And by the way, if you're curious about the breeder report, I believe it came from Ian Rapoport. There's a second opinion he's going to pursue on his ankle and so Rapaport is the one that reported he will miss a week or two.
Mike Wright
What if that one comes back three to four?
Andy Holloway
What if it comes back? You're fine right now.
Jason Moore
I'm not.
Andy Holloway
Jason's not willing.
Jason Moore
I am not convinced until he doesn't.
Andy Holloway
See him on the field that he.
Jason Moore
Is out because there's been so many times where he appears like he's going to miss practices, miss the game, and then he's. And then he's back.
Andy Holloway
It's not as often as it's been reported, though.
Jason Moore
Feels every.
Andy Holloway
I does feel that way. All right, Mike, what do you got at wide receiver?
Mike Wright
I talked about him earlier, but it's Terry McLaurin. Yes, this is scary, as they would say. But the matchup is so great. The look, they've been torched here. And we talked about the Jets. You know, they're giving up points. Here's the last three quarterbacks that they have faced. Gardner Minshew, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Daniel Jones. These three guys lit up the New York Jets. So that can at least wash away some of your Dwayne Haskins fear. Not all of it. It will be impossible to remove all that fear until you see Haskins actually do it. But the jets fourth against fantasy wide receivers. It's at home. I believe in Terry McLaurin's talent. I believe that Haskins has a good enough game that you're happy you started, Terry.
Andy Holloway
All right, I'm going to go. D.J. moore, he's on fire right now. He's been top 20 receiver in four or five weeks. Here's his targets. Jason alluded to it earlier. 10, 9, 10, 11.
Jason Moore
Beautiful.
Andy Holloway
It's wonderful. And like I said, Vegas is not buying this. Atlanta defense as rejuvenated. It's got a 49 and a half point over under in this game. Atlanta's given up the 8th most points to fantasy wide receivers. And you know what? He's done those top 20 performances, all of them with no touchdowns, none. So he's been putting up big weeks and he's due to get into the end zone and that would turn a good week into a great week. So I think that's what you're going to get, a great week from DJ Moore.
Jason Moore
For me, I am going to Hollywood. I'm going to Baltimore because I'm going with Markey's Hollywood Brown, Baltimore rookie sensation. This is just so much fun to make him my start of the week because he's a guy I loved in college. When I was scouting Baker, I was like, who is that guy and he's a huge player. I mean, you want to talk about.
Mike Wright
Baker says, where, where is that guy?
Jason Moore
Can I have him back? He is really electric. This is a guy where you can end up with the wide receiver one on a week because he can go off for a couple of big bomb touchdowns. And in this matchup that I talked about earlier where I want pieces in it, I expect them to hit the over. I think this is going to be a high scoring game against the Texans who four of the last five weeks have given up seventh or better on weekly fantasy points given up to wide receivers. So it's a plus matchup with a, an electric player. I don't want to end up with a 28.32 point fantasy player on my bench. And you know, I think that's his upside in this matchup.
Andy Holloway
All right, tight end Mike I'm going with Eric Ebron.
Mike Wright
And this is the squeaky wheel has squeaked his way into my head. It's this is not the matchup I am chasing, which is normally what we look for for the tight end start of the week. But he had a closed door meeting with his coach and that turned into 12 targets. He flipped the tables. It's usually Jack Doyle as the guy who's getting the more snaps, more targets and it turned into Eric Ebron. We're not expecting to I Hilton back this week. Paris Campbell is still out. Jacksonville has good DBs and with Jacoby Brissette back, I expect targets to be funneled once again to Eric Ebron. So I think he's in that range where he's, he's above a streamer now and he's a low end start every week.
Andy Holloway
All right, look, when I'm staring at the bottom of the barrel at tight end, I've decided I'm going to chase the touchdown trends. And that means Kyle Rudolph at the beginning of the week.
Mike Wright
It's the holiday season is the red.
Andy Holloway
Zone reindeer do you do.
Jason Moore
Wait, no.
Mike Wright
Thielen, what are you singing?
Jason Moore
You know, the.
Mike Wright
Oh, it's the holiday season. I said yes.
Jason Moore
You really said it's the holiday season.
Mike Wright
It sounded like you were singing the Grinch for a second. I was like, what?
Andy Holloway
Well, he could end up in the Grinch category. No doubt about it. Rudolph is touchdown dependent entirely. But when I started looking at yes I for could have a nice game, right? The weapons, they don't have a lot in the passing game and last week he scored with Ryan Finley. But I'm going to put it on the arm of Kirk Cousins over Ryan Finley this week for my start of the week, he's got four touchdowns in the last five weeks. You're going to get five targets. You've got a competent quarterback in Kirk Cousins and he's been a top 12 tight end three of four weeks. So you're not going to get yards. But Denver's actually giving up five plus catches to the tight end position in each of the last four weeks. So you could do a lot worse than Kyle Rudolph. Not something you could say early in the year.
Jason Moore
Right. For my tight end start of the week, I'm going with Jared Cook. I want a guy got an opportunity for last week. 10 targets from Drew Brees, 6 for 74. They need a big rebound. The Tampa Bay defense is as close to the Arizona Cardinals as far as giving up big points to the tight end position. So I think it's just one of those things where you've got a high scoring team, a great plus matchup. And last week the targets were there for him, I expect as he's, you know, he's new to the team this year, more integrated into the offense. Finally up over 70% of snap counts last week. Cook is the guy I would look for this week off of waivers.
Andy Holloway
If you remember the Arizona game, Tampa was one drop from giving up a 40 something yard touchdown to Max Williams in that game as well. So they're very vulnerable to the tight, to the tight end position.
Jason Moore
Jason Moore's ironclad, locked and loaded, 100% guaranteed. Boom, boom. Kicker of the week. Oh, it's love at first sight. The first time I saw her, I knew I had to have the Dallas kicker, Brett Maher. Sorry, Brett.
Andy Holloway
I think he. I think you called Brett a girl.
Jason Moore
I did. I had to. You rhyme Maher. We were almost gonna do something like. I'm going on a dance with my daughter.
Mike Wright
With my daughter this Friday. I'm real excited to go to the dance with my daughter.
Jason Moore
So start.
Andy Holloway
How do you tie that?
Mike Wright
And then on Sunday I'm gonna dance with Brett Maher.
Andy Holloway
Sometimes your rhymes are oh so awkward.
Jason Moore
Awkward. We're just getting worse and worse.
Andy Holloway
That's okay. Nice try. I like that you. You stuck to the kicker you needed, not just the rhyme. Yeah, and that's the real key. Arthur.
Jason Moore
Arthur. Brett. Martha.
Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
Confusing, because you said, do doop dee doo. That's not the words.
Jason Moore
I wasn't doing the words. I was playing the music.
Mike Wright
Thank you, Booklet. Enjoy the football tonight. See you tomorrow. Goodbye.
Jason Moore
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Starts of the Week + Week 11 Breakdown, Heartfelt Apologies
Release Date: November 14, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
The episode opens with Andy Holloway announcing a special segment where each host apologizes to a player they previously underestimated. This introspective moment sets a reflective tone for the episode.
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The hosts congratulate the participants of the Meglable playoffs, highlighting the competitive nature with approximately 1,500 teams advancing out of 7,000 entrants. Special acknowledgment is given to Ray Smith, the commissioner managing 491 leagues.
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Andy also addresses recent issues with waiver pickups affecting playoff teams and directs listeners to jointhefoot.com for the latest updates.
Each host delivers their apologies to players they've previously misjudged, demonstrating humility and evolving perspectives on player performances.
Jason’s Apology to DK Metcalf:
Mike’s Apology to Amari Cooper:
Andy’s Apology to James Conner:
DK Metcalf: Jason expresses renewed excitement about DK Metcalf’s potential, emphasizing his versatility beyond just speed and athleticism.
Amari Cooper: Mike acknowledges Cooper’s improved consistency and anticipates his continued importance in Dallas’s offense.
The Cowboys are favored against the Lions with a high over/under of 51.5 points, suggesting the return of Matthew Stafford. The hosts discuss the implications of this return on key players like Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott.
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With both teams hovering around 5-4 records, the focus is on the Colts’ quarterback situation with Jacoby Brissette returning and its impact on running backs like Marlon Mack.
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The Vikings’ strong running game led by Dalvin Cook is pitted against the Broncos’ improved defense under Vic Fangio. There’s skepticism about Kirk Cousins’ performance against a tightening Denver defense.
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A marquee matchup featuring Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson. The hosts debate the fantasy value of both quarterbacks, praising Jackson’s consistent rushing yards and Watson’s dynamic play.
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Discussing Sam Darnold’s performance and the Redskins’ defensive strategy, the hosts express caution about low-scoring outcomes and the impact on wide receiver fantasy points.
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With Kyle Allen at quarterback for the Panthers, the discussion centers on the Falcons’ vulnerability to tight ends and the potential impact on fantasy players like Jared Cook.
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Key injuries affecting Week 11 decisions include Matt Bryant’s expected absence and updates on players like Austin Hooper and Mason Rudolph, influencing their fantasy value and start recommendations.
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The hosts present their recommended starts across different positions, emphasizing strategic plays based on matchups and player performance trends.
Quarterback:
Mike Wright: Josh Allen versus Miami Dolphins
Jason Moore: Jameis Winston versus Saints
Andy Holloway: Derek Carr versus Bengals
Running Back:
Mike Wright: Raheem Mostert versus Cardinals
Jason Moore: Joe Mixon versus Raiders
Andy Holloway: Brian Hill versus Carolina Panthers
Wide Receiver:
Mike Wright: Terry McLaurin versus Jets
Jason Moore: Markey Moore versus Ravens
Andy Holloway: D.J. Moore versus Falcons
Tight End:
Mike Wright: Eric Ebron versus Redskins
Jason Moore: Jared Cook versus Panthers
Andy Holloway: Kyle Rudolph versus Broncos
Kicker:
Jason Moore: Brett Maher (Dallas Cowboys) versus Lions
Andy Holloway: Derek Carr debated as a kicker (humorous segment)
Mike Wright: Highlights on kicker performances
The episode wraps up with a humorous exchange among the hosts, reinforcing their camaraderie and dedication to providing valuable fantasy football insights. They encourage listeners to join their community at jointhefoot.com and follow them on social media for ongoing updates.
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This episode offers a comprehensive analysis of Week 11 matchups, player performances, injury updates, and strategic starts, making it an invaluable resource for fantasy football enthusiasts seeking to optimize their lineups and stay ahead in their leagues.