Starts of the Week + Week 12 Breakdown, It’s Football Time! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/21

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode Summary Title: Starts of the Week + Week 12 Breakdown, It’s Football Time! Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright Release Date: November 21, 2024

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Introduction and Banter

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in their characteristic light-hearted banter, setting an engaging and entertaining tone for the listeners. Andy welcomes everyone back to another Thursday episode, highlighting recent successes and playful interactions among the hosts.

Andy Holloway [02:40]: "NFL news starts of the week, fantasy forecast, parlay parte, lots going on. Big, big waiver day yesterday and teams getting primed."

NFL News and Injury Updates

The hosts delve into the latest NFL updates, focusing on key player injuries and their potential impacts on fantasy lineups.

• Eagles’ Devontae Smith: Sits out due to a hamstring injury.

  Andy Holloway [06:37]: "Eagles wide receiver Devontae Smith did not practice on Wednesday due to a hamstring injury."

• Seahawks’ Noah Fant: Missed the last two games and hasn't practiced recently.

• 49ers’ Juwan Jennings: Highlighted as an undervalued starter with impressive target metrics.

  Jason Moore [09:12]: "Juwan Jennings is like not someone you can start. He is someone you can't bench."

• Raiders’ Amir Abdullah: Picked up by Jason in Dynasty, expected to have a significant role.

• Other Notable Injuries: Josh Jacobs, Calvin Ridley, Marshawn Lloyd, and others are discussed with advice to monitor their statuses.

Starts of the Week

The hosts provide their top picks for the week across various positions, backed by statistical insights and matchup analyses.

Wide Receivers

• Andy’s Pick: Devontae Smith vs. Rams

  Andy Holloway [08:13]: "This is about the matchup... Rams being dead last against wide receivers. This is an opportunity to play a guy that's been up and down in a great matchup, assuming he's healthy."

• Jason’s Pick: Juwan Jennings

  Jason Moore [09:54]: "Juwan Jennings... he's a wide receiver one alpha type of stuff... someone you can't bench."

Running Backs

• Andy’s Top RB: Devon A. Chofin vs. New England

  Andy Holloway [10:31]: "Devon A. Chan against New England. I think he can be the number one overall running back on the week."

• Jason’s Top RB: Brian Robinson Jr. vs. Dallas Cowboys

  Jason Moore [12:08]: "Brian Robinson Jr. is back from his injury and he was fully back last week... Dallas is pretty much the worst run defense in the league."

Quarterbacks

• Andy’s Pick: C.J. Stroud vs. Titans

  Andy Holloway [13:38]: "C.J. Stroud... he’s very comfortable at home... Titans giving up a ton of points per game."

• Jason’s Picks: Bo Nicks and Baker Mayfield

  Jason Moore [14:24]: "Bo Nicks... he's been on fire... I also want to shout out to Baker Mayfield coming off the bye against the Giants."

Tight Ends

• Andy’s Pick: Hunter Henry vs. Miami

  Andy Holloway [16:01]: "Hunter Henry has run the most routes of all tight ends through 11 weeks... Miami defense is 29th against the tight end position."

• Jason’s Recommendation: Luke Schoonmaker as a waiver pickup option for desperate teams.

  Jason Moore [17:16]: "If you have injuries or byes, Luke Schoonmaker... good matchup against Washington."

Fantasy Forecast and Matchup Analysis

The hosts provide in-depth analysis of key matchups affecting fantasy outcomes, offering strategic advice on player starts and alternatives.

Key Matchups Discussed:

1. Minnesota Vikings at Chicago Bears

   • Prediction: Minnesota -3.5

   • Over/Under: 39

   • Analysis: Concerns over Aaron Jones' performance and Chicago’s improved defense.

     Andy Holloway [23:12]: "Minnesota has been good, not great recently... On pace for a rough week for Aaron Jones."

2. Detroit Lions at Indianapolis Colts

   • Prediction: Detroit Lions

   • Over/Under: 50.5

   • Analysis: Lions' dominant defense against running backs versus Colts' struggling offense.

     Andy Holloway [29:56]: "This matchup is just suboptimal for Anthony Richardson."

3. New England Patriots at Miami Dolphins

   • Prediction: Close game with Patriots covering the spread

   • Over/Under: 46

   • Analysis: Patriots’ improved performance and Miami's vulnerability against tight ends.

     Jason Moore [36:40]: "They have already lost by one point... Patriots are still competing for the playoffs."

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers at New York Giants

   • Prediction: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

   • Over/Under: 41.5

   • Analysis: Buccaneers' consistent performance despite recent losses and Giants’ weak defense.

     Andy Holloway [40:39]: "Giants are the best team against the tight end position... Baker Mayfield is a must-start."

5. Kansas City Chiefs at Carolina Panthers

   • Prediction: Under on touchdowns; favoring defensive strength of Chiefs.

   • Over/Under: 43

   • Analysis: Chiefs' top-tier defense versus Panthers' offensive uncertainties.

     Andy Holloway [55:13]: "The Chiefs are number one against running backs... Focus on not Bryce Young."

Parlay Parte Segment

In this segment, the hosts crown the best fantasy performances of the previous week and highlight standout players.

Jason Moore [61:43]: "Mike's pick is Nico Collins... I'm going 25 plus receiving yards for Devon A Chan against New England."

• Mike’s Pick: Nico Collins vs. Tennessee
• Andy’s Picks: Devon A Chan vs. New England and Brock Bowers over five and a half receptions
• Jason’s Additional Picks: Brock Bowers over five and a half receptions

Key Takeaways and Strategic Advice

• Monitor Player Health: Pay close attention to practice reports and injury updates to make informed decisions on player starts.
• Leverage Strong Matchups: Utilize players in favorable matchups, such as Devontae Smith against the Rams and Brian Robinson Jr. against the Cowboys.
• Flexibility with Depth Players: Consider adding depth players like Luke Schoonmaker for bye weeks and injuries.
• Optimize Tight End Position: Focus on high-target tight ends like Hunter Henry and Brock Bowers to maximize fantasy points.
• Betting and Fantasy Synergy: Incorporate sportsbook insights from DraftKings to enhance fantasy strategy, especially in tight matchups.

Conclusion

The Fantasy Footballers provide a comprehensive overview of Week 12, blending strategic fantasy advice with engaging discussions. By highlighting key players, analyzing matchups, and offering actionable insights, Andy, Jason, and Mike equip listeners with the tools needed to excel in their fantasy leagues.

Jason Moore [62:22]: "Brock Bowers is so good... he's going to have maybe one more dud game the rest of the season."

Listeners are encouraged to stay engaged with the hosts for ongoing updates and to utilize their premium tools available at fantasyfootballers.com.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway [09:07]: "Devontae Smith with an asterisk as of this morning's practice report."
• Jason Moore [10:31]: "Brian Robinson Jr. is back from his injury and he was fully back last week."
• Andy Holloway [13:38]: "C.J. Stroud... Titans giving up a ton of points per game."
• Jason Moore [16:41]: "Luke Schoonmaker has his opportunity... good matchup against Washington."
• Andy Holloway [23:22]: "Aaron Jones has not been great. Pretty inefficient and ineffective on the ground."
• Jason Moore [27:05]: "DJ Moore is a scary flex right now, but I think you can flex him."
• Andy Holloway [41:02]: "Baker Mayfield is the fifth ranked quarterback in fantasy on the course of the season."

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Oh, welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

It's football time. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I half expected Papa Josh to take over the it's football time after yesterday's performance.

[Jason Moore]

The glory days for Papa Josh.

[Andy Holloway]

He was getting a lot of positive feedback on that, which I would like.

[Jason Moore]

To Talk to the YouTube commenters. Our job, I think, is clear. Our job is to dunk on the Deucers. Tell them what bad people, what bad jobs they've done. But the YouTube commenters usually are very kind to the Deucers and I.

[Andy Holloway]

Sympathetic.

[Jason Moore]

Sympathetic, yeah. Wonderful people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's like the make a wish kids stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Right. And so, you know, I just want to thank our audience for being so kind to such losers because they need their. Build them up. Build these little guys up.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. We do need that today.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Al Borland in the house. We've got a Thursday episode of the show.

[Jason Moore]

You're looking good in that white jacket. I like it.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks, man. He doesn't wear non black, so it's always there's a hand me down from.

[Jason Moore]

A good buddy of mine. Oh, really?

[Andy Holloway]

Is that yours?

[Jason Moore]

It's Jason's old jacket. Oh, that's. I had no idea I was complimenting myself.

[Andy Holloway]

Now. Why'd you give him the jacket?

[Jason Moore]

I think it didn't fit me. Probably correct. It probably does not. But I think I want it back.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, great show today. NFL news starts of the week, fantasy forecast, parlay parte, lots going on. Big, big waiver day yesterday and teams getting primed. I ended up getting Taysom Hill.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Took the shot. I ended up, much to Al Borland's.

[Jason Moore]

Chagrin, I ended up in Dynasty getting Amir Abdullah. So, you know, we each have our big wins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, you paid up. Yeah. Your Dynasty, Jason's Dynasty team has no running backs to start.

[Jason Moore]

They're all on by.

[Andy Holloway]

And so Amir Abdullah was your best choice, which I read something this morning that Dylan Loubi is going to be a big part of the offense.

[Jason Moore]

I hope he is because that means that Zemir White and Alexander Madison aren't. Aren't playing.

[Andy Holloway]

So Abdullah would have a role.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Join the Foot.com where you can find the ultimate dashboard, a bonus weekly episode of the podcast, all of our premium tools and resources, the Discord community access, everything can be [e-mail] and hang out with us. About 40,000 strong in the foot clan. And we love you guys. We appreciate you in the community. Is awesome. A reminder. Click that follow button on Spotify. Apple Podcasts, wherever you're listening, drop us a review. If you've got a few minutes. You can follow the show on YouTube. Watch it YouTube.com the fantasy footballers Jay Grizz sitting in today and already sporting the crown from last week. So we've got three crowns to put on today.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it feels good to be, you know, we three kings, you know, seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Of the last Nine have been hits, which is making me just more at peace with who we are as human beings. Because I think, I think in the beginning we were, we had a rough stretch. We had a rough stretch and we were maybe playing it too safe. Less about conviction, more about line.

[Jason Moore]

And now we're trying to find things we really believe in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think.

[Jason Moore]

And it's working.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's been fun. Let's jump into some news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league presented by USAA Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

I had not seen this news.

[Jason Moore]

The first piece of news.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm not too worried, but I also don't have a miss by start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So you saw that, did you? Eagles wide receiver Devontae Smith did not practice on Wednesday due to a hamstring injury.

[Jason Moore]

We'll talk about him more in a.

[Andy Holloway]

Minute to monitor that. Noah Fant didn't practice. He's missed the last two games for the Seahawks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, obviously if someone's missing games, that's bad. With Devontae Smith, the Wednesday reports, you just, you take them all with a grain of salt. If he misses a Thursday with a hamstring, you start getting worried.

[Andy Holloway]

George Kittle, Ltd. On Wednesday, says he's going to play.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's playing. He's for sure playing. He says he can't pass up playing against the Packers. He'll be out there for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, there you go. That's good news. Zemir White, Alexander Madison didn't practice. Monitor both of them. And whether or not Abdullah and Laubi are the lucky guys getting to start for the Raiders. Tajie Spears didn't practice. It's going to be hard pressed for him to get out there with the concussion. And then Ridley didn't practice due to illness. He should be okay. Josh Jacobs, Ltd. Due to quad and calf injuries. Also another one to monitor. And we have. Go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

Marshawn Lloyd went on the NFI list for his appendicitis. So it'll be a couple of weeks before he's back as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, yes. So monitor those. And we have an injury blitz podcast that's part of the Join the Foot Perks comes out on Friday featuring our injury expert Matthew Betts. And we'll have the practice reports the rest of the week. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com/Insurance.

[Jason Moore]

Starts of the week. Why don't you kick it off at wide receiver?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, is that where we're going to start? Let's just do it I mean, devonte Smith is slash was, I guess currently still is my pick at start of the week plays the Rams now. It's Sunday night, so if there's doubt, I would pivot out because you know there are other options. And if you don't know going into, I would say by Saturday if you don't know definitively that he's fine, which. Look, we could get a practice report in a matter of minutes that he is practicing today. It's been up and down for devonte Smith. We talked about him extensively yesterday. This is about the matchup. This is about a 49 point over under. This is about the Eagles having a 26 point implied total. This is about the Rams being dead last against wide receivers. This is a opportunity to play a guy that's been up and down in a great matchup, assuming he's healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Devontae Smith with an asterisk as of this morning's practice report.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I still expect that he'll play and be a good play this week. I don't, I don't think it's a bad start of the week. Obviously needs to play for that to come to fruition. My wide receiver start of the week is a guy that I. People are loving. People are starting, but still undervaluing. What Joanne Jennings is for the San Francisco 49ers. He's their wide receiver one. You've got Debo Samuel, you got George Kittle, you got Brandon Iuke's injury and all the names ahead of him. Christian McCaffrey's back. But Juwan Jennings, in the games where he's been a full time starter, you're talking 12 targets. 11 targets. 11 targets. His behind the scenes metrics, they're off the charts. He's targeted on 27% of his routes.

[Andy Holloway]

They tried to put him in the charts. They couldn't fit him.

[Jason Moore]

No, because they're off. There was like the printer didn't print far enough. He's averaging 2.84 yards per out run. That's outstanding. 28% of the team's first read targets. That is wide receiver one alpha type of stuff. In fact, those three metrics, those three great behind the scenes metrics. You want to know the only other wide receivers who have hit all three of those this year? Nico Collins, A.J. brown and Justin Jefferson. So Juwan Jennings is like not someone you can start. He is someone you can't bench.

[Andy Holloway]

Well put. Well put. That connection has been there all year long. And if you dig deeper on the Debo metrics, this Season. They're not good.

[Jason Moore]

No. And you know I went back and watched a little bit of film and there were just plays where it's like Debo always gets that play. He's not didn't.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not playing well. And this is not out of character. He had a really down year two years ago and even talked about it after the season. Just saying he played poorly. I believe I saw something about three of four. Three of his four catches last week were against prevent in the end of halves. So he wasn't even accumulating his minimal production against the primary defenses. My we'll pivot here running back. We'll go in a random order than we normally running back is going to be. Devon A. Chan against New England. I think he can be the number one overall running back on the week. As my start of the week. He has averaged over 20 fantasy points per game when two has been his quarterback. That is near the peak in the league. I Believe Mixon's at 21.7 for the running back one. This is 20.6. He's right there. The reception totals. The fact that this offense just looks fundamentally different. The waddle downfield stuff not happening. Tyreek down the field not happening. They're willing to get the ball out of to his hands quickly and Achan is a perfect target for that. New England struggling against running backs. This could be the best week of the year for Achan.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, really it really could be. I worry a little bit about the the passing volume there just because they're not going to need to if they are beating them. And that's where Hn's done a lot. But HN's so good.

[Andy Holloway]

New England with Drake. May has been staying in games and throwing the football.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I really hope that happens. Rooting for Drake, May and Hunter Henry this week. My running back start of the week Brian Robinson Jr. Versus the Dallas Cowboys. B Rob B Rob is back from his injury and he was fully back last week. There was no ease him in. He got a ton of opportunities. He's averaging a solid 13 1/2 fantasy points per game on 16 opportunities a game. In fact around the goal line. And this is really where I love Brian Robinson the goal line. He's tied with Joe Mixon for fifth most touchdowns inside the 10 with seven. He has as many 10 zone carries as James Connor or Alvin Camara despite the fact that he's missed three games. Now you look at the actual matchup against Dallas. The Commanders are the second highest team applied total of the week, they're ten and a half point home favorites. That's going to be leading to them running the ball at the end. And Dallas is pretty much the worst run defense in the league. They're 32nd in expected points versus the run, 31st and rushing yards allowed per game, 30th in total touchdowns to running backs, 20th. I mean, whatever, whatever metric you want to look. They suck against the run.

[Andy Holloway]

What about the charts? Are they on them, off them? What's the situation there?

[Jason Moore]

They're like a black hole right in the middle of the charts that says target the running game here.

[Andy Holloway]

Got it. All right. We shall talk quarterbacks. How about that?

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Haven't got to say this name a lot with confidence. I am very confident this week. CJ Stroud, Nico Collins, you saw the difference already. Yes, it was touchdowns on the ground through Joe Mixon, but moving the football is a lot easier with Nico Collins. A full allotment of snaps expected this week. No luxurious need for the Tennessee defense. And at home, Stroud's over 300 yards, a 5% touchdown rate. He's very comfortable at home. Titans giving up a ton of points per game. I like C.J. stroud. This week you have players on by. You are in a situation where you might be wavering between a couple of quarterback options. And I think Stroud is going to give you his best performance of the year.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to give two starts of the week for quarterback Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that because Mike's not here.

[Jason Moore]

Mike's not here. And there's also a player because.

[Andy Holloway]

Just give them all. How about every player?

[Jason Moore]

Let me tell you, all the players to play. It's called my rankings. You can see them atthe fantasy footballers.com. my start of the week is Bo Nicks, who's been on fire. Bonix. He's been a top 12 quarterback. Five of his last seven games. He was already the quarterback. Nine versus the Raiders in week five, he had three total touchdowns. They don't really have a good running game, which is part of what I love here. But he's just, he's been on fire. And you know the matchup against the Raiders again since week three, you're talking about really exposed secondaries. 28 that scheduled just fantasy points to quarterbacks. 30th and expected points added per pass attempt. Bo Nick should be really, really good. He's. He's got a good rushing floor and he's actually throwing touchdowns. But I also want to shout out to Baker Mayfield coming off the by against the Giants who Have a good front. He gets Mike Evans back. That is probable at this point. You know, I'm looking. Yes. Laser. My league of record team, Andy. And I'm still in it. I'm still fighting. Because the reason I'm bringing up Baker is because I've got CJ Stroud and I've got Geno Smith and I've got Baker Mayfield on the team.

[Andy Holloway]

You have Stroud and league of record.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. That was part of the Herbert trade last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, so you're making a decision.

[Jason Moore]

And I got to make a decision.

[Andy Holloway]

And Baker gets Mike Evans back.

[Jason Moore]

As of right now, I'm going Baker.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I get that. I get that. Don't make the wrong pick.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Moore]

I hope not to.

[Andy Holloway]

Tight end start of the week is going to be Hunter Henry this week. He's run the most routes of all tight ends through 11 weeks. Fifth in targets. Got a pile of targets last week, plays Miami. Drake May can throw it. We'll be talking parlay parte later, but I know Drake May plays the part in that. Hunter Henry's just been very, very solid. A 21% target share in this offense. Seven targets a game, and that's a weak area for Miami. Miami defense is 29th against the tight end position. Brock Bowers had 16 targets and 13 catches against the same Miami defense last week. It's just where Miami chooses to let you work. So Hunter Henry, I think, is very solid.

[Jason Moore]

I love that play. He is. He should be really, really good. Obviously, they're. You know, these are the situations where all of a sudden, maybe Austin Hooper ends up with four catches for 50 yards, and you're like, ah, those are my hunters. But I do think.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't be a party, Hooper.

[Jason Moore]

Well said. No. Okay. All right. Poorly said.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

My tight end. This is. Mike's not here to give me some special kind of underpants to put on, but this is.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't have underpants control without him.

[Jason Moore]

Do we have control of our underpants?

[Andy Holloway]

Do you have underpants? Turn that thing around. I can dig it up, but. Yeah, that'd be faster.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Pick your pants.

[Jason Moore]

I gotta. I gotta find out where his pants are on this board.

[Andy Holloway]

Pick your under panties.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm going to look and I'm going. Titanium underpants. Titanium, titanium underpants.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, this test.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So if you've got injuries, if you've got by weeks and you need someone that's basically off the waivers into your lineup, I think it's Luke Skoon maker, the Schoon maker he was fed in relief of turd Ferguson last week. He saw. Hold on. Yeah. The relief of. The relief of the turd Schoon maker.

[Andy Holloway]

Was fed in relief of herd Ferguson. Yeah, got it.

[Jason Moore]

The people understand what I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Got it.

[Jason Moore]

When Ferg daddy went down, he saw 10 targets. He was 6 for 56. He was targeted on 34% of his routes leading the team. And it's easy to forget I did forget this. I was talking to Mike because I was, I was wanting to drop in our dynasty league that we co managed together. I was wanting to drop the Schoon man early before the season and he's like, I forgot he was a second round pick. This was a really, you know, highly drafted guy that he ended up losing the job to Fergalicious and so Schoonmaker has his opportunity. The matchup is really good against Washington since week six, their 24th and schedule just a fantasy points allowed to tight end. I think that Cooper Rush targets Schoon man a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, that's going to be our start to the week. We will take a break and jump right into the fantasy forecast. Should be a good one.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That's cool.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks for asking.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no problem. Here we go.

[Jason Moore]

It's time for fantasy forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. I want. Jeremy, I want you to edit this out after we finish recording, of course. But you producers are great and you do a great job and we love you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Consider it cut. Thank you, but. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Make sure that's not.

[Jason Moore]

Don't let the people hear that.

[Andy Holloway]

Week 12 buys. Bengals, bills, Falcons, Jags, jets and Saints. That's a lot. I mean, I think that's why I got Taysom Hill yesterday, by the way. It's because the bye week and people having needs and not being able to throw somebody on their bench.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. What's crazy is we have a bigger bye week in two weeks from now with more teams. But I think it is the specific teams this week that are gone that I feel like when I look around at all the leagues I'm in, and I'm in a lot of leagues, it seems like people that drafted a certain way all have these specific teams players. And I look. Because there's teams that have no issues with bye weeks or you have all of the bye weeks on your roster. I've got a couple of them that are that way. So it's. It's tough, but it makes it. Hey. Quicker to get through the matchups.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Minnesota at 8 and 2, taking on the 4 and 6 Chicago Bears. Now I'm getting word that Brooks has been booted from the zoom. He has no clue. He has no clue what's going on right now. Brooks is just fading into the dust. I thought he's been here. This has been a while. Brooks has not been a part of the show for the last eight minutes.

[Jason Moore]

Whoopsies.

[Andy Holloway]

Al's been too busy just soaking up your compliments.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's just over there modeling that jacket.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, all right. We got Brooks with us now. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Brooks is back.

[Andy Holloway]

Poor guy. Minnesota eight and two, Chicago four and six. The Draft King sportsbook line. Minnesota minus three and a half. The over, under is 39. You know what?

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

You know what?

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know why, Jason, but that's the way I pick them. I pick them as I feel.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean three and a half Chicago.

[Jason Moore]

I thought, is it Thomas Brown, is it Waldron being gone?

[Andy Holloway]

It is. It is the fact that the Bears were competitive last week against the packers should have won the game on a last second field goal. It is the fact that Minnesota has been good, not great recently. They have won three in a row. They have not all been smooth and gross defensive battles. They have a way of being really close. Over. Under is just 39 points. I don't know. I don't know. I think I got it right last week. I think my almost upset last week panned out because I think I had Pittsburgh over Baltimore and Pittsburgh ended up winning. So we'll see what happens in this one. Really fantasy wise, you know, very disappointing week for Aaron Jones last week. This week, his DK rushing receiving lines, 81 and a half. I don't know if Jason, he was dealing with the ribs.

[Jason Moore]

They're going to need him in this one. It's very difficult to throw on the Chicago Bears. That's their strength and their defense. But where you can beat them is on the ground. And I think this Minnesota Vikings offense, if they want to have a good performance, get the W. They're going to need Aaron Jones to look better than he has looked really the last month. Week before last he was okay, but that was Jacksonville. But the last month he has not been great. Pretty inefficient and ineffective on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he had a great start to the year. You know, we've been talking a lot about the older statesman at running back having big performances, but we have not yet seen the end of the season from these guys with maybe more tired legs and a lot more to deal with and bumps and bruises.

[Jason Moore]

Aaron Jones will be started, but my eyes are going to be heavily on like if he has another bad performance this week when they need him, when it's, you know, the softer part of the opponent's defense, I'm going to start kind of lowering Aaron Jones and my projections.

[Andy Holloway]

DeAndre Swift did not practice on Wednesday due to a groin injury. Growingindex.com Is he still up there?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm sure he is. Roshan Johnson much more heavily involved in the post. Shane Waldron. So this is one thing we got to keep in mind. The Bears Offense changed and we see this every year where sometimes when there is an offensive coordinator shift, it's just like next man up. They're running the same system and sometimes they change things whether it's for the better or for the worse. We saw it last year with Joe Brady. The Bills were one offense the first half of the year and a different style of offense the second half of the year. It's too early to know definitively after one game what you're going to have from the Bears, but we have to be willing to shift our beliefs here of how the Bears function. Maybe the pecking order of the wide receivers and the involvement of the running backs. Roshan was much more involved now. I don't really love either of these running backs against Minnesota they are number two against the run and their number two schedule adjusted for fantasy points given up to running backs basically given up 14.4 fantasy points per game to the running back entirety. So if you split that between Deandre Swift and Roshan Johnson, I think without touchdowns you're going to be pretty disappointed this week.

[Andy Holloway]

How are you feeling about D.J. moore right now? He's receiving lines at 49 and a half in his first game without Waldron. Seven catches, 62 yards. A lot of those were the little screen manufactured touches. Do you feel like he is a safe flex or a risky flex?

[Jason Moore]

He is safer without Waldron. The fact that they were manufacturing some of those touches. I believe he had four screen passes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was. I was watching that game and that's what I kept seeing.

[Jason Moore]

And four total receptions was the most he had had for the previous month. So it's certainly an upgrade. Also Minnesota, you know the they are a past funnel defense. Wide receivers usually have success against them because their offense has been scoring and you can't really run on them. So DJ Moore is a scary flex right now, but I think you can flex him. The question Keenan Allen, you can't. He shouldn't even be rostered in my opinion. I can't fathom having him on my roster.

[Andy Holloway]

Keenan on your roster or Westbrook Akin.

[Jason Moore]

A. I think Westbrook Akini in that. I mean neither is the. Neither is the real answer. I would not want either of those guys on my roster. But Roma DUNES in that first game he had 10 targets, 6 for 65 led the wide receivers and you know those two guys, D.J. moore and Roma Dunze I think you can have as a scary flex option.

[Andy Holloway]

How concerned are you looking at the Minnesota side? Looking at, you know, Jefferson's in your lineup But Hawkinson was sub 50% of snaps for the third consecutive week. Just three targets you successfully pulled off a pump and dump last week on the show. You moved him. I'm curious your opinion now.

[Jason Moore]

I mean awful play. No. The end of the season we talked about his schedule opens up for tight end matchups where they will utilize him. Starting here, starting here.

[Andy Holloway]

23Rd against tight end last six weeks the Bears.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's not a bad matchup for him. It's not as good as it gets down the stretch and the playoffs are just so juicy for him. But he's still a definite start. I mean. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you feel like they're going to manage his snaps further knowing the playoffs are in the horizon?

[Jason Moore]

So I do think that this is a player that they are obviously not having out there every snap and I think that's more gas tank than anything. I don't think it's injury. I don't think they're worried about the knee or any of that. They gave him a lot of time to heal. I think it's getting him into football shape and you saw it in some of these plays where it was like he was really good. Sat in the zone in the right spot. He's big, he's strong. Catches the ball and then looks exhausted as time continues to go. He'll only get better. Two weeks ago he was sub 50% of snaps and he was 8 for 72. They're bringing him in to catch the ball. So I'm not worried about Hawkinson. I'm still very pro Hawkinson pre injury.

[Andy Holloway]

His snap counts were at 81% so if they're working towards that, that's where he ends up.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he'll get there by I think by the end of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

The Detroit Lions at nine and one take on the Indianapolis Colts in Indy Colts are five and six. The draft king sportsbook line. Detroit on the road seven and a half point favorites.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Over under is fifty and a half. That gives him a 29 point implied point total. This is just to me not. This is the. Whatever the. If I had a button for the opposite.

[Jason Moore]

Oh really?

[Andy Holloway]

Like the least possible upset. This is the button for me because I think right now this matchup is just suboptimal for Anthony Richardson. What you have to do. I mean you remember this from our old flag football days. I was a pretty good quarterback when the game was close but if we got down by a couple scores then.

[Jason Moore]

We'D get down by a couple more scores.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you knew you got to. You got to take More chances. If you threw a pick, I was Alex Smith. I needed to play with a lead or near the. Near the.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. If you threw a pick, you threw four picks. That's usually how the games go. You throw four touchdowns or four picks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it just feels a little bit like a problem to me in this one. I mean, Detroit's defense, so I, top to bottom, is so good. I would be careful.

[Jason Moore]

We pick every week just for fun. We. We pick against the spreads in like a pool. And this was actually one of the most difficult games for me to pick because that line being that large. You know, I talked about on the Hungry for More. We don't know if anything has been fixed or improved with Anthony Richardson, but he obviously looked better in his one single game against the Jets. He's at home. And there is a world where the offense is getting better here and the Anthony Richardson and his tools can work. I ended up picking the Lions. I went on that side because in the end, the Lions are just the best team in the NFL. Their defense is solid on all levels. Now. It used to be they've got the best rush defense in the world, but you can't throw on them. That's really gone away. You can't do much against them. They are very dominant. But they did lose their lasagna defender.

[Andy Holloway]

Anzalone.

[Jason Moore]

Anzalone. There it is.

[Andy Holloway]

Lasagna.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Poor guy. Didn't he break his arm?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He'll be back and he's going to be a huge part of their super bowl run. But for now, that. That hurts. Obviously you lost Hutchinson.

[Andy Holloway]

So the Lions defense in the secondary, they play the highest percentage of man in the National Football League. Anthony Richardson is dead last in the NFL in completion percentage against man coverage. And so that's the biggest concern is that can he. Where he's the weakest, Detroit's the strongest, and then they'll be pressed. I just. I'm very concerned about it.

[Jason Moore]

Is there any. Are you confidently starting Josh Downs then? Or are you. Are you thinking maybe you're going to look and see if you've got a better option than Downs?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I played Juwan Jennings over Josh Downs.

[Jason Moore]

Well, sure, I'd play Juwan Jennings over almost everyone. But I'm saying, just giving you an.

[Andy Holloway]

Example, I mean, if you're looking at.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Would you play. See Almond Raw or AJ Brown over him?

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you would?

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, I'd play. I'd play Jaden Reed. I'd play Marvin Harrison. I played Jameson Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. I'd Play Jackson Smith and Jacob playing Jameson Williams. I think that's the. If you'd play Jameson Williams in this same game over Josh Downs that says Josh Downs is not an auto start.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Jonathan Taylor is an auto start.

[Andy Holloway]

Rice over him, Randy Moss.

[Jason Moore]

So really here. And I guess the question comes up. So you would not play Anthony Richardson.

[Andy Holloway]

I try not to. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Because Richardson has shown us that even when you know the run that he had, he looked good. Last week it was against the Jets. The jets are circling the drain. I think your risk is very high. I think you could still get an okay game. But we haven't actually seen that. All we've actually seen from Richardson. We've not seen the middle game from Richardson.

[Jason Moore]

Right. We've actually only seen like for 11 career games. It's either he's awesome for fantasy or he sucks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean his bad games, his five game stretch was 20 or lower in the finish. So if you are not a crazy underdog, I just don't understand you taking the risk of single digit points there. So Baker, you know, Nick's obviously Stroud. I would go all those guys. It gets pretty easy on the, on the lion side in terms of Gibbs, Monty Amon, ra, Jameson Williams and then even Laporta.

[Jason Moore]

The matchup is great if he's active. And it looks like the reports that were coming out he was at practice and Dan Campbell said that it's still iffy but it's leaning in the right direction. So.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right.

[Jason Moore]

I believe Laporta will play and I'm going to start everyone. The question is just golf.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And you don't really play him. You might miss a great game. But I mean to me that's.

[Jason Moore]

He hasn't had many great games.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. He's been on waiver wires.

[Jason Moore]

It's tough when he's coming off of like a 40 point fantasy walloping to bench him. You know you want to, you want to keep the hot streak going with him.

[Andy Holloway]

The real question, would you play him or Richardson in this game? And I'd probably play golf.

[Jason Moore]

I would play golf over Richardson.

[Andy Holloway]

Jonathan Taylor, it's going to be a tough one. Detroit's defense stonewall is the running back position. They have not let a running back hit 100 yards. And then now we know like last week when they're on the goal line, Richardson ran two in. So if you don't hit 100 yards and you don't catch passes and you don't get a touchdown, that could be.

[Jason Moore]

It could be. It could be rough. You're hoping that he gets 10 points. Yeah, exactly. Now I believe it was Kenneth Walker earlier this year who had like. And they have a three touchdown game against Detroit. So crazy things can happen and obviously you're going to bet on talent. Jonathan Taylor, one of the most talented running backs out there. So you got it. You got to start him. I don't remember.

[Andy Holloway]

No Michael Pittman.

[Jason Moore]

No. Pity city is the pits.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought of a different phrase. New England three and eight, Miami four and six. DraftKings sportsbook line Miami minus seven and a half heavy favorites at home. Over under is 46 points. Miami beat the Patriots 15 to 10 with Tyler Huntley back in week five. They have been scoring points. They scored 27, 27, 23, 34 with Tua. Do you feel, really, do you feel like there's anything that's going to change the way it looks like this game is going to go?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it can always change when you have a rookie quarterback that is, that has shown enough to say, to say, oh, he could take, you know, he could elevate this team. When I look at Drake may play, certainly it doesn't always go well. You know, 19 points against Chicago two weeks ago. 17 points against Tennessee three weeks ago. Wasn't, wasn't, you know, outrageously great. But he's a rookie and I do think that he could surprise here and keep them in this game. That's my hope. My hope is that they can keep the pace with the Dolphins so that the Dolphins have to keep scoring. You look at the Dolphins and how much they've given up to the tight end position and you've got Hunter Henry, your start of the week, you've got Austin Hooper, you have the ability to attack that part of the field for the Patriots. And so I'm a little hopeful that they can keep it close.

[Andy Holloway]

I think maybe the perception of New England is a little bit off right now. They've. So they've won two of their last four games. Right. So they won 25, 22 and they won 19 to three. In their two losses they lost 20 to 17. So three points very close. And 22 to 28 against the Rams, six points. So they're not getting like, they're not getting blown out. Like they haven't lost by even the line in this game.

[Jason Moore]

No. I took the Patriots to cover this line in our, in our picks. I do believe it will be a little bit of a closer game and it's obviously a divisional matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Stevenson's the running back 20 on the year. You can play him especially on a bi week riddled week like this one. You know Hunter Henry start of the week. We talked about him. K Sean Boutay, six targets in each of the last four games. Oh, Mark of the beast, playing a ton of. No, that is four straight games, Jason. That's six, six, six, six.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, but what's his last three?

[Andy Holloway]

82, 96, 97, 96% snap count. He's always out there. So he is. If I'm taking a random shot, if I'm doing a. A DFS dart throw, I want him out there every play.

[Jason Moore]

I do not.

[Andy Holloway]

You want them?

[Jason Moore]

No, I want them out there every play. I'm just. I don't want Booty this week. You've got Pop Douglas over the last couple of weeks as well. You know, games with nine targets, seven targets. He's involved as well. The Dolphins Booty or Waddle? Waddle. The Dolphins past defense has been very, very good. You know, schedule adjusted, their top three against wide receivers, top five against quarterbacks and you know, you usually beat them on the ground. So I feel like Hunter Henry is fine. Ramon Dre on a bye week is okay. And then you check out from the.

[Andy Holloway]

Patriots side of the ball, Johnny Smith after the big week and he's been performing. Or Hawkinson. Do you like John? Who? Or Hawkinson?

[Jason Moore]

I still like Hawkinson better.

[Andy Holloway]

Andrews or Johnny Smith? Andrews Ertz or Johnny Smith?

[Jason Moore]

Johnny Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Tyree kills in your lineup. Achan's in your lineup. Mostard is benched. Hopefully he has been doing nothing and Jalen Wright's benched because he's been doing nothing as well. It's really been a chan and no one else.

[Jason Moore]

And let me be clear, Jalen Waddle should be benched. So I just answered I would play him over Booty, but that is, that's not a impressive. We're talking wide receivers, 40s, 50s, you know, not the order of them. At that point, it doesn't really matter.

[Andy Holloway]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 4 and 6 off the by travel to New York and take on the 2 and 8 giants, who will have a new quarterback. DK sportsbook line here. Tampa minus 6 over under is 41 and a half, so it's pretty low. 23 to 17 is the line or 2418. Both teams coming off the by actually. And Buccaneers have lost four in a row. They've been close, they've been fighting, they've been trying.

[Jason Moore]

I can't believe they've lost four games in a row. It doesn't feel that way all four of those games.

[Andy Holloway]

They won our hearts during this season.

[Jason Moore]

They did. They played good football and took a bunch of Ls. So this is a team coming off a buy who still has playoff aspirations, unlike the Giants.

[Andy Holloway]

That's like Al's league of record team. Right? You know what I mean?

[Jason Moore]

Like, very similar.

[Andy Holloway]

They're out there, they're fighting, they're doing a good job, but they can't play defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Owl, your team is like, you look good. You look like a scary team. You might miss the playoffs, but great team, but super good team.

[Andy Holloway]

Bad points against though.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I don't know. Don't know why you're managing. He's just so poorly.

[Andy Holloway]

He just upsets the other owners in the league. They score a lot of points against them.

[Jason Moore]

He just hypes them. He gives them a lot of chalkboard material.

[Andy Holloway]

Friendly. You know what I mean?

[Jason Moore]

You're putting up posters about what he said.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to shoot us.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Tommy DeVito will start for the Giants. Baker Mayfield is your bonus start of the week, Jason. And you'd pay. You'd play him over Gino, you'd play him over Tua. You'd play him over Love?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Yeah, I think I would. I think I would. We've got to remember how good Baker has been this year.

[Andy Holloway]

He is the fifth ranked quarterback in.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy on the course of the season. I believe he's quarterback four, but maybe scoring changes. The last two weeks he had slightly down weeks. That was against Kansas City and against San Francisco and that was without Mike Evans. You got to give the guy a little bit of a break with a bad toe. Now he's coming off a buy with Mike Evans. I'm going to keep assuming that Baker has it and they need. I mean, this is a must win game for them. They are truly a team still competing for the playoffs and they're playing against a team who is seemingly trying to get the best pick they can.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, Kate Otten, very solid start. Although the Giants have been the best team against the tight end position. His line is 51 and a half.

[Jason Moore]

Jalen McMillan a full participant in Wednesday. This is great. Coming off the by maybe a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Dude, I don't want. I honestly don't want to talk about Jalen McMillan ever again. Like, Jalen McMillan has done Jackson crap for anybody. Ever since he's been talked about. Like ever since the injuries, he's done nothing. 3 for 15, 4 for 35. Missed. Missed a game and then was a goose because he Was active in week 10, but didn't play a snap.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, so, like, I just.

[Andy Holloway]

Don'T think he's worth talking about till he has a game. I genuinely think so.

[Jason Moore]

Here's. Here's why. Let me make argument with Evans.

[Andy Holloway]

He didn't do it without it.

[Jason Moore]

Let me, let me make the argument for it. I realized he didn't have big feet. Fantasy productive games. However, I think he's a good wide receiver. Good tape rookie coming in. He had eight targets and then seven targets post Chris Godwin. Then he got injured and we haven't seen him since then. You say, oh, he was active and it was basically like you call it a healthy scratch. But he was. He was injured. He didn't play.

[Andy Holloway]

I understand that he had targets in those two games, but he did not have production. And they have other players that have also. They've also started to work into the. Sterling Shepard's been out there a lot. Otten has taken over. Mike Evans is coming back. Rashad White started getting more reception. I don't. I just think it's not worth.

[Jason Moore]

You don't want him hurting your Kate Otten.

[Andy Holloway]

I see right through you. He can't. He's proven he can't.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He can't hurt them. He's helped him by not being good.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we'll see. I don't think he's going to hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's made mistakes, by the way.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he's going to hurt Kate Otten, Kate Otton I believe is.

[Andy Holloway]

Established he's not hurting anybody.

[Jason Moore]

But I would still like Jalen McMillan. If he was on waivers, I would want him on my team. A rookie with opportunity could surprise on the other side of the ball. I almost made Malik Neighbors my start of the week. I think he is worthy of that because I wanted, you know, you worry like he. He hadn't been producing much with Daniel Jones and now you go down to Tommy, Danny DeVito and you're like, can I start him? Yes, I believe you can start. Especially in this matchup. There's really no secondary for the Bucks and that's why they've lost these games. They've lost four games in a row. It's because their secondary is non existent.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyrone Tracy is a definite start this week, averaging nearly 19 opportunities a game. I think you could play both Irving and Rashad White. That's been an area. The Giants have become softer and softer in defending the running back. Bucky's been getting more and more praise from the head coach. 68 and a half is the rush receiving line. Bucky's look good. Bucky's had big fantasy production as well. He's actually been kind of under the radar really good since about his opportunity, you know, when it started up in Week 3. On pace since then for 51 receptions, 170 attempts on the ground, almost nine touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

I would, yeah, I would be playing both of those running backs because I think it's funny. Bucky came onto the scene and I feel like got a lot of publicity while Rashad White was looking poor at the beginning of the year. And now under the radar is both of them because Rashad White's been good. Rashad White's, you know, for the last month before the buy he was double digits in all of those games. Had one game where he two games where he was a top 10 running back. So I think you start both players.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Before we move on.

[Andy Holloway]

All righty.

[Jason Moore]

I wanna, I wanna. Well, hold on here. Let me get. Let me look here at these, these underpants.

[Andy Holloway]

What is happening? What is going on?

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying I think Tommy DeVito is going to be an okay play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

That is.

[Jason Moore]

He had five games started last year as a rookie. In those games he was on pace for over 500 rushing yards, which is great. The matchup is good against Tampa Bay and I'm not saying as a single quarterback start, but in super flex leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

You can keep things in your head, man. You can keep things in your head.

[Jason Moore]

On a premium underpants.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't have to put them on.

[Jason Moore]

They're already on. I can't get them off.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know how to take them off.

[Andy Holloway]

I just. Who on earth. You just want this out in the ether?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Just want the world to hear you and Tommy DeVita.

[Jason Moore]

There are. Davita. Davita Loca. What are we doing here?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was in my head.

[Jason Moore]

No, there are leagues where you are. I mean I've had multiple super flex leagues where I don't have a quarterback to play because, because of by weeks or if you had picked up Tommy DeVito and you don't have a second quarterback. I think he's okay. In a super flex. That's. That's what I'm saying. This isn't like a must start, you know, Tommy Cutlets, but I, you know, I think he's going to be a top 20 quarterback this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Dallas is three and seven. The Commanders are seven and four. It's in Washington and Washington ten and a half point home favorites. The over under is 45 and a half. It is becoming increasingly difficult to create a hypothetical world in which Dallas can do enough on offense to defeat its opponent on any given week. That is the challenge. It just their implied point total here, 17 and a half. The overrunners 45 and a half. That gives the commanders almost 30 points. You know Dan Quinn, you've seen his departure and the impact it's had on Dallas. They are the worst team in the league, or rather, let's put it positively, everyone's favorite team to run on.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, when you talk about the running game, I mean this is why I've got Brian Robinson as my start of the week. His DK rushing line is 69 and a half yards, very nice. You know, the. On the other side, you can make the argument, okay, Washington commanders who came out and shocked the world with how good they were are they've lost the last two games in a row. So if for some reason this game goes awry and the Dallas Cowboys, you know, with Cooper Rush come in and beat him, I think people are going to start freaking out about the commanders, but it's probably not going to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

The commanders lost by one point against Pittsburgh. They lost by one score against Philadelphia. I get it.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, they're going to win. They're going to win.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not wrong. They'll panic. I think people want to see Jaden Daniels return to form in terms of fantasy production.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, he's only hit 20 fantasy points once in the last five games. And the truth is, when a rookie quarterback comes out and is on fire like that, we want to believe that the rest of his career is predetermined and it's just not the case. The last five weeks, I mean, he hasn't finished. What's it been? Highest finish was quarterback nine on a week. That's the first time since week five. That's his highest finish. That's a long run.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He has not like he's the quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Six on the year.

[Jason Moore]

Still, through the first month of the season, he was top 10 three of the four times. You know, he was the quarterback three, the quarterback four, the quarterback seven. And since that month, the first month of the season, like you said, he hasn't been higher than the quarterback 9. It's been kind of a.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you worry about that going into the fantasy playoffs if you had him as your quarterback?

[Jason Moore]

I would not. Because I think that the first week against the Saints and the championship week against the Falcons are good matchups. This, this matchup is one where you have a path to worry because they're ten and a half point favorites. That's great. They should score a lot of points. But Brian Robinson in the running game can just eat up the Dallas Cowboys. And now all of a sudden, if you don't get a second half from Jaden Daniels because the game's out of.

[Andy Holloway]

Hand, I mean, I just, I'm not that worried about that.

[Jason Moore]

I'm starting him.

[Andy Holloway]

Jaden Daniels got 20 point, 28 point implied point total. I think he's going to be a big part of that.

[Jason Moore]

At least. You know, the rushing defense that is so bad against running backs, it will also be bad against Jaden Daniels himself.

[Andy Holloway]

Back on the horse with Terry McClaren.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean you talked about the lockdown nature of the last opponent for Terry McLaurin. He's the wide receiver six on the season last week was a huge dud game, but that was the first dud game since week two.

[Andy Holloway]

Comfortable with Austin Eckler, he's been putting up great numbers running back 16, 6 and 14 last week. Even with Robinson back flexworthy.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he's looked great all season as far as on. So I am fine in this matchup. 10 and a half point favorites. That's where you can share duties and put them in like next week they play the Tennessee Titans. I think a much better run defense. I wouldn't start. I wouldn't start Eckler there.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of duties, the Cowboys offense, the Schoon man is your titanium underpants. Start of the week if you are desperate. But really at CD Lamb and that's it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

In terms of confidence plays CD Lamb seems like the only one to talk about six and a half reception line primary target.

[Jason Moore]

Well, in honor of Mike, we've got to discuss Rico Dowdle. Rico Dowdle.

[Andy Holloway]

I just did when I said that CD Lamb's your only start.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

That was my way of speaking about Dowdle.

[Jason Moore]

Dowdle was not good last week. Only two receptions, only 10 carries. I don't think you can start him here, especially in a game where you are down. I will say that.

[Andy Holloway]

Single digits in the last two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, my schoon maker start of the week. If I had to decide between him and Zach Ertz, I would actually go school, man. Because while we talk about hey, Jaden Daniels has a 28 point implied total and so he could get his. I don't think it has to come in the passing game that much and I don't think they're going to need to be air like I How many times do you think Jaden Dales throws the ball this game? You know, I don't think he goes north of 30.

[Andy Holloway]

And so yeah, probably 30, 33, 34.

[Jason Moore]

So it's like it's a small pie. Whereas for the whole game you're going to have Cooper Rush. I think you're going to end up towards the end of the game with some prevent defense where Schoon man just has four or five receptions of the fourth quarter.

[Andy Holloway]

The Chiefs are nine and one, the Panthers are three and seven and the Chiefs get to go play them in Carolina. The sportsbook line here Kansas City minus 11 over under is 43. Jason was disturbed. Maybe that's the Wrong word. Displeased. When I outbid him for the Chiefs defense this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was really upsetting. I needed them.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to I every waiver wire. I like it when each like everyone in the studio is unhappy with me. That means I did my job.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, good job, good work.

[Andy Holloway]

But the Chiefs this week it looks really good against Bryce Young and company. His passing line at the time for touchdowns is 0.5.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, 0.5. So it's like will he throw one or will he not? And I probably take the under.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's not great. It's also hard right now to have any confidence in any wide out, especially in this matchup. So this is the wait and see week. Does stealing get a lot of opportunities in ppr? We'll find out this week with him on your bench. Xavier Leggett worked into the offense as a centerpiece.

[Jason Moore]

Find out with him on your bench.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Moore]

And Jonathan Brooks expected to make his long away to debut rookie second round running back draft pick.

[Andy Holloway]

And we'll learn about him from your bench. From your bench. And the only player you can play on the entire team is Chuba Hubbard. But even his rushing line is 49 and a half.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's not great below Bucky Irving. And you don't know how much Jonathan Brooks is going to eat into that. I fully expect Chuba Hubbard to have the lead role in this game. I don't think Jonathan Brooks comes in and makes a 50 50. But you're going to lose. I think some of the passing work to Jonathan Brooks and this is a terrible matchup. How bad? Well, over the last six weeks. Over the last six weeks, Chiefs are number one against running backs. Over the, over the season they're number one. But if you adjust for schedule over the course of the season, also number one. So they do not give up a lot on the ground to running backs.

[Andy Holloway]

And what would you defend against if you were facing the Carolina Panthers like of all their scale position players, what would you possibly try to.

[Jason Moore]

I would focus on not Bryce Young.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I'd focus on the run. It's. It's troublesome. Mahomes.

[Jason Moore]

I would prefer to not start him to be honest now he's been much better.

[Andy Holloway]

You'd play Jordan? Love. You play Bo Nicks?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I'd play Bo Nicks. I'd play Baker Mayfield. He has, he's thrown some touchdowns. You know he threw three touchdowns this last week and going back two weeks before that, three touchdowns. So there's some light. There's some light there. But at the same time, you know, he's not hitting 20 fantasy points. He's literally only hit that once this entire season. And this is the type of game where it's probably not going to be competitive.

[Andy Holloway]

Any renewed excitement about Xavier worthy after his 4 for 61 first drive last week, he then inexplicably did the thing where he catches a long pass and has the. It's super easy to get both feet in and he doesn't still somehow, I mean he would add another like 40, 50 yards down the field all alone. Doesn't get his feet in.

[Jason Moore]

But it was a little nice to see in so much as I think that's the packages going forward now that juju Smith Schuster was back and Hopkins wasn't the like Rushy Rice role and they kind of just utilized Xavier Worthy in I think slightly better ways. But I don't want to start him. I'm not going to start him in this matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you learning about this new Kareem Hunt, Isaiah Pacheco rotation with either of them on your bench? Because Pacheco could be back out there. Andy Reed said they're going to find a way. Both are good players in terms of getting them snaps. Try to get them both in there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, are you scared? I don't think Pacheco plays this week. I will be very surprised he's eligible. The reports last week were he's aiming for this week to play. So I mean, you know, be prepared. It's just my presumption after following this for the whole season.

[Andy Holloway]

You think next week, week 13?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think week 13.

[Andy Holloway]

So in that case, hunt is in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, TBD. Hunt is in.

[Andy Holloway]

Super in.

[Jason Moore]

Hunt is in. Either way, if Pacheco is active, Hunt is 100% in. The question is if Pacheco is active against the panthers, you know, 32nd against running backs a game, you're going to be up. Could you start both of them? I'd like to give it a week because I don't know how much work they'll give Pacheco first game back, especially.

[Andy Holloway]

If they don't need him.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. Yeah. I mean, so Hunt is no matter what in. Pacheco is like a prayer if he's active, but I don't think he's going to be active.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a lot of excitement around DeAndre Hopkins three weeks ago when he went 8 for 86 with two touchdowns. Unfortunately, what we've seen from Hopkins in the last two to three years is he has those games. Even with Tennessee, he Had those games with Arizona towards the tail end. He had those games where it was. It looked kind of vintage. Hopkins always makes a competitive catch. Great around the red zone. The last two weeks, four for 56, no scores, three for 29, no scores. A snap count down to 47%. Last week against Buffalo with Juju's return, we talked about worthy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Juju, are you worried about Hopkins at this point?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, a little bit worried because juju coming in and kind of splitting the role there, which allows Xavier Worthy to have an elevated role himself. You just don't know where the targets are going to go.

[Andy Holloway]

You're seeing McCall Hardman out there again.

[Jason Moore]

And I fully expect Travis Kelsey to stay very, very involved. Obviously last week, two catches for eight yards. Noah Gray, huge letdown. Noah Gray was the one at the tight end position that got it done. But the previous three weeks you had Kelsey with 12 targets, 10 receptions, 16 targets 14 receptions, 12 targets, 8 receptions. So you're not, you're not moving. I'm not terrified there.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask you this. Just giving you some names to compare with Hopkins in your confidence level. Tank delegance, Tennessee or DeAndre Hopkins. Those guys are back to back in my rankings. This week.

[Jason Moore]

This week against Tennessee, I'm going to go Tank.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Waddle or DeAndre Hopkins?

[Jason Moore]

I'll go Hopkins.

[Andy Holloway]

What about DJ Moore?

[Jason Moore]

I'll go DJ Moore.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Calvin Ridley.

[Jason Moore]

Ridley.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh Downs.

[Jason Moore]

Downs.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So that's where we're at with Hopkins. You can see all of the weekly rankings on the site, the fantasy footballers.com where you can get the app, the fantasy footballers app on iOS or Android and see the rankings on there. Start sit tool. I think that covers that game pretty well.

[Jason Moore]

Does that mean it's time to party?

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's time for some parlay parte. Could I get a. Can I get a crown, please?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, sir.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you very much. It is. It is good to wear the crown.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, sir. We three kings. You're looking good, J. Grizz.

[Andy Holloway]

This week was good. This week was good. Jay Grizz has got the crown on.

[Jason Moore]

So this last week, Andy, you had Calvin ridley More than 50 receiving yards. He had 58. I had Bijan Robinson over three and a half receptions. He had four. And Mike, with George Pickens over 60 receiving yards, he had 89.

[Andy Holloway]

We both. This is the second straight week you had a panic attack because you thought you didn't. You didn't get your number and then you just checked the box score and then Bijan had one more catch. Than we saw.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Achan two weeks ago. Bijan. This last week where I'm counting the catches, just watching the game and feeling like I'm one behind. And it just. What was crazy is like to start the game, Bijon had like three receptions, like right off the top.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The first drive he had, he had.

[Andy Holloway]

First two drives, I think 90% of.

[Jason Moore]

The game to get another catch. And I apparently I missed that until way late in the game. And I looked at the box, I was, I was like, throw the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. This week we do have Mike's pick for him as he's out of town. He is going with Nico Collins, unsurprisingly, 70 plus receiving yards against Tennessee. He looked really good last week. Scored on the first play of the game, didn't count. But a full allotment of snaps is in the cars. No luxurious need. We talked about earlier and it's a good matchup. So he's going 70 plus with Nico. I'm going 25 plus receiving yards for Devon A Chan against New England with two of this year. He's been over that line in five of six games. He is how this offense moves the football.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the nice thing about that is that could be one reception, like with a guy like Devon.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why I do that instead of his reception, his total reception line. I just feel like I like the receiving yards more than the total reception.

[Jason Moore]

I'm always, always.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm always, always.

[Jason Moore]

I'm almost always a volume over yards type of player. Just personal conviction. But on this line, it makes complete sense and I love it. My pick this week is I'm taking Brock Bowers over five and a half. It's a high line reception, five and a half reception. So he's got to get to six. He's averaging seven receptions per game. Last week he had 16 targets, 13 receptions. Gardner Minshew. And against these Broncos, his matchup this week in week five, he went 8 for 97 and a touchdown. And then my favorite part about how good a game he had against the Broncos is they lost the game and like it wasn't close. So this isn't like how do we fix it?

[Andy Holloway]

It's just stuck with minshew.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, just, just reap repeat week five and let Brock get his catches.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

The thing is about Brock Bowers is he's going to have maybe one more dud game the rest of season. His touchdownless domination is so incredible that you don't even. You don't need. Usually for a tight end to have a great game, they've got to have a touchdown. You just don't need that with Brock Bowers. And then what if you get it?

[Andy Holloway]

He is simultaneously the check down guy for the team and their number one wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And God forbid he starts scoring touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

He's a deep throw. Oh, don't worry. Gardner will take care of that.

[Andy Holloway]

He won't.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, Brock is so good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's a really good football player. And, you know, the Raiders were smart to have taken him, even though it didn't seem like the pick that they needed to make.

[Jason Moore]

There are certain players who just make things look so easy that you almost question if they're really great. And I know that sounds really, like, when I watch Justin Jefferson, I know he's great. I watched the sideline catch. He's unbelievable. But also, he's just always wide open. Like, why doesn't the defense decide to guard him ever?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, I get it.

[Jason Moore]

It's him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, it's what Kelsey.

[Jason Moore]

Brock Bowers looks like he's doing Nothing for years.

[Andy Holloway]

100%.

[Jason Moore]

Kelsey's just like, casually walking down the field, always open and faster than everyone.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, thank you for joining us today. We got more matchups tomorrow, the Fantasy Face off and we'll catch you up on all the injury news. Don't miss it tomorrow. Take it easy.

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