Starts of the Week + Week 12 Breakdown, Jacobs Worries? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/20

Summary

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Fantasy Footballers Podcast

"Starts of the Week + Week 12 Breakdown, Jacobs Worries?"

Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, (Mike Wright absent)

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off with energetic banter and jumps straight into tactical Week 12 advice for fantasy managers, as Andy and Jason break down the NFL news, critical fantasy-relevant matchups, “Starts of the Week,” and address ongoing concerns like Josh Jacobs’ injury. With trade deadlines looming and playoff races heating up, the hosts deliver actionable analysis, deep dives into player usage and matchups, and signature Footballers humor—all aimed at winning your week and ultimately your league.

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Key Segments & Insights

League Updates & Trade Deadline Talk

[03:00–05:30]

• The hosts discuss the excitement of trade deadline day and share how their home league times the deadline to Thursday night football kickoff.
• “Some weird ones in our league [trades]. So we’ll see what happens in yours.” – Jason Moore (03:19)
• Quick rundown of Megalobowl playoff mechanics and roster rules.
• “The top six are in... as the weeks progress... top half move on, and then the champ is crowned, whoever scores the most.” – Andy Holloway (03:53)
• Promotion for “JoinTheFoot.com” with trade analyzers and premium in-season tools.

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News & Notes

[06:08–10:27]

• Keon Coleman Situation: Second consecutive healthy scratch is discussed, with debate on whether it’s a player or coaching failure.
  • “If you put Lad [McConkey] on the Buffalo Bills... he would be Stefon Diggs.” – Andy Holloway (06:34)
  • “I feel like the Keon Coleman healthy scratch for a second week means you didn’t respond well to the first week.” – Jason Moore (06:55)
  • Historical busts compared: “There was another Coleman... Corey Coleman [Cleveland/Buffalo]... never became what he was supposed to.” – Jason (07:43)
• Injury Roundup:
  • Lamar Jackson (ankle) not practicing, expected to play.
  • Isaiah Likely, Tyler Higby, David Njoku limited or not practicing.
  • Trey Benson (Cardinals) might return soon: “Certainly someone that should be rostered in all leagues... will be an important starting running back on an offense that’s moving.” – Andy (08:55)
  • Joe Burrow (“not ruled out”): “I think he might play.” – Jason (09:52)
• Tampa Players Sick: Baker Mayfield and others out due to illness.

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Starts of the Week

[11:20–19:49]
Presented by Tostitos

Quarterback

• Jason: Jackson Dart vs. Detroit
  • “Jackson Dart will take on Detroit this week... 23 fantasy points a game, rushes for 45 yards.” – Jason (11:58)
  • Gruden’s viral ‘changing playstyle’ quote referenced: “Gruden was brutal. He’s like, this is stupid.” – Jason (12:30)
• Andy: Brock Purdy vs. Carolina (Monday Night Football)
  • “Brock looked great... two plus touchdowns in each start. He was QB6 last week.” – Andy (13:03)

Running Back

• Jason: Trayvon Henderson vs. Cincinnati
  • “Even if Ramon Dre returns, it’s about the matchup as well. Cincinnati... their rushing defense is poo poo.” – Jason (13:34)
• Andy: Kenneth Walker III vs. Tennessee
  • “He was RB11 last week... coach came out and said what we’ve been wanting – Kenneth Walker earning more opportunities.” – Andy (14:28)

Wide Receiver

• Jason: Tracy McGrady (Tezra McMillan) vs. San Francisco (Monday Night Football)
  • “Eight for 130 and two from NFC’s Player of the Week, Bryce Young… true go-to receiver.” – Jason (15:21)
• Andy: Devonta Smith at Dallas
  • “Philly fans are upset at... their Super Bowl champion team... Dallas is here to cure the ills.” – Andy (16:14)

Tight End

• Jason: Colston Loveland vs. Pittsburgh
  • “Steelers... 30th in schedule-adjusted fantasy points allowed to TE. Loveland is a big play type.” – Jason (17:56)
• Andy: Hunter Henry vs. Cincinnati
  • “Bengals... worst, worst, worst, worst against tight ends... they’re on pace to allow the most fantasy points of all time to TE.” – Andy (18:53)

Notable Quote:

“Against the Bengals defense, you can essentially blindfold yourself with a grenade launcher and you’ll hit the target.” – Andy Holloway (18:53)

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Key Matchup Breakdowns

Bears vs. Steelers

[21:54–27:12]

• Chicago’s defense described as “bend but don’t break,” relying on turnovers.
• Jaylen Warren (ankle) and Kenny Gainwell discussed for fantasy—“Whoever the starter is needs to be started. Jalen Warren’s been great.” – Andy (23:49)
• DeAndre Swift is a must start; “Mannangi is purely touchdown or bust.” – Jason (25:03)
• “Temperature check on DK Metcalf... He is the alpha... matchup against the Bears much better.” – Andy (25:39)
• Rome Odunze: “He’s a WR2, but like a low end WR2.” – Andy (26:46)

Bengals vs. Patriots

[27:41–30:43]

• New England is favored; “Line shifted with the potential for Joe Burrow to return.” – Jason (28:57)
• Hunter Henry gets a strong plug; “I want pieces of the Patriots’ offense... could see a world where they all get it done.” – Andy (29:04)
• Chase Brown: “He’s been top 15 each of the last four weeks... but Patriots are toughest vs. RBs.” – Andy (29:31)
• Tee Higgins seen as must-start without Chase.

Lions vs. Giants

[30:48–33:32]

• Highest implied team total of the week for Detroit.
• “Love all the Detroit in this game... Gibbs. Yes. Amon Ra. And Jameson.” – Jason (31:28)
• David Montgomery debate: “Dan Campbell said they want to get Monty the ball more... Monty’s getting a touchdown in this game.” – Andy (32:38)
• “If Slayton is out and Dart is back, I like [Isaiah] Hodgins more in this game than I like Yoshi Voss.” – Jason (33:12)

Packers vs. Vikings

[34:44–36:04]

• J.J. McCarthy’s mechanics struggles discussed; “It feels a little Russell Wilson mental side of the game, like Danger Witch...” – Andy (36:04)
• Justin Jefferson is a “wide receiver two” with McCarthy’s current struggles.
• Aaron Jones “a good play – 22 opportunities last week.” – Andy (38:21)

Titans vs. Seahawks

[42:56–46:00]

• “Lowest implied point total of any team all season (13.5 for Titans). Simple solution... start 0.0 Tennessee Titans.” – Jason (44:07)
• Tony Pollard harshly critiqued: “Hasn’t scored 10 fantasy points since week 5... week 12.” – Andy (45:14)
• Kenneth Walker: strong start; Sam Darnold—serviceable as a streamer.

Chiefs vs. Colts

[48:45–54:08]

• Highly anticipated, hard-to-predict, “chock full of fantasy options”—but Jason says, “I just skipped it [in DFS],” due to unpredictability (49:10).
• Colts’ odds seen as thin; Chiefs’ defensive stats at home are elite.
• “Daniel Jones, it’s a little more nerve wracking... I’m playing Brock Purdy, Sam Darnold over Daniel Jones.” – Jason (51:39)
• For KC: Mahomes, Kelsey, Rashi Rice are locked-in starts; “If Pacheco is back, you’re down to three starts.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Andy, on facing Detroit after a loss:

  “They don’t lose a lot, but when they do, they come back with a vengeance.” (31:28)

• Jason, on Bengals' defense:

  “You can essentially blindfold yourself with a grenade launcher and you’ll hit the target.” (18:53)

• Andy, on the Bears defense:

  “They keep your team in the game and can do it that way.” (22:54)

• Jason on Jaylen Warren/Gainwell dynamic:

  “If you have to say Jalen Warren is starting, what percentage chance is it that he re-aggravates that ankle... 15%? That’s not a bet I want to make.” (24:07)

• Jason’s rookie “platter” for Starts of the Week—every pick a rookie.

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Quick Hits & Advice by Player

• Keenan Coleman/Shaheed/JSN: Avoid in most formats until usage appears.
• Trey Benson: Stash while out, high upside upon return.
• Hunter Henry/Colston Loveland: Both high-upside TEs this week.
• David Montgomery: Start, good shot at a TD in great matchup.
• Trayvon Henderson/Kenneth Walker: Confident RB starts.

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Time-Stamped Highlights

| Topic | Time | |-----------------------------|-----------| | Trade Deadline & Megalobowl | 03:00–05:30 | | News & Injuries | 06:08–10:27 | | Starts of the Week | 11:20–19:49 | | Bears/Steelers Breakdown | 21:54–27:12 | | Patriots/Bengals Preview | 27:41–30:43 | | Giants/Lions Breakdown | 30:48–33:32 | | Packers/Vikings Recap | 34:44–36:04 | | Titans/Seahawks Advice | 42:56–46:00 | | Chiefs/Colts DFS Talk | 48:45–54:08 |

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Authentic Podcaster Banter

• Lots of league-specific jokes (“You can’t keep the trophy so close to you—all under my pillow at night.” – 05:34)
• Self-roasting (Jason: “My only concern... if you don’t have Chase, if Burrow doesn’t play, and the game script flips ...” – 19:22)
• Acknowledging their own player biases and trading regrets, e.g., Mike “regrets his Jefferson trade.”

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Conclusion

This info-packed episode arms fantasy managers with actionable Week 12 insights, hard takes on injuries (notably Josh Jacobs), strategic matchup analysis, and a full menu of start/sit calls—bolstered by the hosts' signature banter. Rookie fever peaks with the "Rookie Platter" starts, and the show’s deep-dives into player usage and defensive matchups arm listeners for critical playoff decisions.

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For full matchup forecasts—including any player not mentioned here—check the timestamps above for targeted breakdowns.

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“We’re here for the Foot Clan first.” – Andy Holloway (16:04)

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

You. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in.

[Andy Holloway]

This football time. Yeah, yeah, baby. It's football time.

[Jason Moore]

Not too shabby. The pinch hitter.

[Andy Holloway]

It's 3/4 football time. We got two defenses that are going to come to play and we got one offense that.

[Jason Moore]

What is football time then? Like a full on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's just like good team against good team.

[Jason Moore]

An offensive.

[Andy Holloway]

I actually full football time. It doesn't have to be good team against good team because this is good team against good team.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Football time is good offense against good offense. That's it. That's it.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you see here I was thinking it was just there was a game tonight.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we've gotten greedier.

[Jason Moore]

Silly me. Welcome in Thursday, November 20, the fantasy footballers podcast. Jason Moore is here. Jay Grizz in the house. Probably probably have a lot of public demand for Jay Grizz's drop. So just do it.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been waiting.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, That hits hard. That hits hard. I'm Andy Holloway. Welcome in one and all starts of the week. The fantasy forecast today, interesting news to talk about. It is our league of record trade deadline day which we what we do is we end up kind of extending the deadline. A lot of league formats just like they end at the end of the week and what we do is we kind of extend it a few extra days and we make the deadline the kickoff of Thursday night football so you can have some excitement. Right? Right.

[Andy Holloway]

All the leading right up to kickoff until the beginning. The beginning of the kickoff is you know, the beginning of the games that week, it's over.

[Jason Moore]

It's, it's almost there though. Final trades being made, some weird ones in our league. So we'll see what happens in yours. And one thing some people have been asking about, Jason, I, we mentioned it on the footcast yesterday, but if you're in the Megala bowl, in years past, we used to lock rosters in the playoffs and you couldn't sign waivers. That doesn't happen anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, now it is.

[Jason Moore]

People have been asking, what's the date?

[Andy Holloway]

No, what's the date? It's coming up here. It's the same as every normal league. It's weeks 15, 16, 17 for the playoff, for the playoffs, the teams. If you're in the top six seeds in your league, you will be in the playoffs. You could check all the [e-mail] just scroll down, click Megalobol Standings and then you'll see if you're in once the playoffs arrive. I mean, you should already know because you'll. The top six are in. But as the weeks progress through the playoffs, you could see your score against everyone else's score. Top half move on to the next week, top half, move on to the next week. And then the champ is crowned. Whoever scores the most.

[Jason Moore]

And then they play in the listener league.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right.

[Jason Moore]

So that'll be fun. We want to remind you, head over to jointhefoot.com if you want to be a part of this fine fantasy football community. The trade analyzer is up and available. Going right up to trade deadlines or if you're in dynasty leagues and stuff, that's going to be useful all off season long. You got the premium in season tools. You got the extra episode of the show every week. You got the ultimate dashboard to optimize those lineups going into the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

You got the waiver wire tool that will sync with your specific league and show you who is available on your waivers.

[Jason Moore]

And I didn't tell you this, but I've already had some people in our league try to strong arm me into trades. Because of the trade analyzer.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. They're like you say, this is good.

[Jason Moore]

One of the comments was this. It says heavily in your favor. So this is not an official offer. But would you do it one of those?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, then it's not a strong arm if it's not not an official offer.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, I mean, there have been more, but check it all out. Join the Foot.com Become an Official Supporter of this fine independent podcast and you know, you'll make Al Borland happy over there because his record won't right now. That's true. But I do have this cool trophy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you got. You can't keep it so close to you. That's right.

[Jason Moore]

Why do you keep your trophy so close? It all under my pillow at night, too. Oh, my gosh. That's an uncomfortable sleep.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you buckle it up when you drive it back and forth from work?

[Jason Moore]

Of course he buckles that. But not himself.

[Andy Holloway]

I know that he buckled. He buckles the seatbelt before he gets in and then sits on it so it doesn't beep.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We're also setting everything up for another face off between you and I next year. We're both going into the draft really.

[Andy Holloway]

Pick heavy with great keepers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you've done some good work there. I still have some hopes that you get watered this year. We're going to talk news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league, presented by Progressive Insurance. I was just totally goofing yesterday when I was like, maybe pick up, you know, Keon Coleman, maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you were goofing.

[Andy Holloway]

I was just goofing.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of goofing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

They might have goofed on the draft pick. Keon Coleman is expected to be a healthy scratch for a second consecutive week.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you mean they goofed because they took Keon Coleman ahead of lad McConkey?

[Jason Moore]

That is what I mean.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That seems like.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like if you put Lad on the Buffalo Bills right now, oh, my gosh, he would be Stefan Diggs when he was on the Buffalo Bill.

[Jason Moore]

They'd be glad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But no, they're not happy right now. No Dalton Kincaid, no Keon Coleman. So maybe we'll get some shavers tonight. Right?

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, you might. It's an interesting name if you're playing DFS or something tonight.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, I feel like the Keon Coleman healthy scratch for a second week means you didn't respond well to the first week.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

You didn't do anything that was expected of you to get back out there and say, hey, whatever, Late to meetings, whatever thing happened. You're like. You double down on. Like nothing's wrong.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know what?

[Jason Moore]

Speculation.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not speculation.

[Jason Moore]

I know that the answer.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's what we do know. They're benching him again. So it's one of two things. It's either on Keon Coleman or it's on the Bills. Meaning it's on Keon Coleman. He didn't respond the right way. He, you know, threw a bigger fit whatever it was. Or the Bills looked at the film and said we just put up 44 points. We liked these guys and how they were. Yeah, they're participating in the offense better than what we have when we have Keon Coleman. And that might be the reason too. There was another demotion.

[Jason Moore]

There was another Coleman with high hopes that once got benched for similar situations and his name was Corey Coleman, if you recall, who played for Cleveland and then played for Buffalo I think for.

[Andy Holloway]

A little while and never never became what he was supposed to. So one of the great bust picks. Yeah. In NFL history.

[Jason Moore]

Lamar Jackson did not practice on Wednesday. Ankle injury. Will monitor that.

[Andy Holloway]

He didn't practice last week either, although I don't think it was an ankle. So he's going to play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they just pick a body part for Wednesday. Isaiah likely the calf didn't practice. The Rams placed Tyler Higby. What are you laughing at over there? You said his calf didn't practice but the rest of the. Yeah, he left. He didn't use one calf. Tyler Higby went to IR with the ankle injury. David Najoku didn't practice on Wednesday. Probably maintenance on the knee. The Cardinals did open up the 21 day window for running back Trey Benson who was limited on Wednesday. I did watch some of that film.

[Andy Holloway]

I did as well.

[Jason Moore]

I don't imagine he'll be out there this week.

[Andy Holloway]

He will not be. He's not going to play. But he was at least on in pads he was making some cuts. He looked pretty good. So certainly someone that should be rostered in all leagues. If for some reason he is on your waiver wire, pick him up. He will be an important starting running back on an offense that's moving with Brissette and that needs. I mean really, if you put the three running backs together for the Cardinals it's been good numbers for their running game. It's just you don't know if it's been DeMarcado. No, he's injured on Michael Carter. No he's it's Bam Knight. They need Trey Benson and so when he comes back he's going to be very valuable down the stretch.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. Bayshaw TUT and Travis ETN Limited on Wednesday. Brian Thomas Jr. As well for Jacksonville. The big news that I don't see in here but I think is kind of the biggest headline news of all is Joe Burrow has not been ruled out this week. He as of this recording, as of any news that I can find you're a full practice on Wednesday when Joe Flacco is limited.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Why are you doing. I think he might play.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm starting to think he might as well. It's funny, I was talking to someone yesterday and he was saying, hey, you know, the full practice participant for Burrow. And I'm like, well, yeah, but I don't expect him to start yet. Then it was like, Joe Flacco's limited. So Burrows playing all the reps with the first team, it's. It's not.

[Jason Moore]

It's at least possible.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's at least possible. Now I don't know if his first game back wants to be the game where he doesn't have Jamar Chase. Of course, from Burrows perspective, I'm sure he's thinking, if we don't have Chase, I've got to be there for this game. Oh.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, every game right now is do or die for that team, for any chance of the playoffs. Bucky Irving, limited for Tampa.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris, very limited. I was watching. He wasn't in pads.

[Jason Moore]

Those guys aren't playing this.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

And then a bunch of players got sick in Tampa. Basically, Baker Mayfield, a mecca, a big boo. And a bunch of offensive linemen all out due to illness. So they shared some tenderloin or something.

[Andy Holloway]

Been there, brothers.

[Jason Moore]

And we'll cover some other injury situations. There's some running backs that we don't know what's going to happen. We'll do all that during today's matchup breakdown. So that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. Before we get into the matchups, let's talk starts.

[Andy Holloway]

Starts of the week presented by Tostitos.

[Jason Moore]

Well, well, well, Jason, it's time for starts of the week. I. I have a rookie platter.

[Andy Holloway]

I saw that this morning. You're going all rooks. This is the time of year where the rookies come to help win championships.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I wasn't necessarily trying to head that way. And then I ended up with a few starts that were rookies. And then I got the news. I had golf in as my start of the week. He was my streamer. I'd love to give another name. And then you see the positive practice report. Limited practice for Jackson Dart.

[Andy Holloway]

I like it.

[Jason Moore]

And Jackson Dart will take on Detroit this week. So that's the Goff versus Jackson Dart. I like both sides of it. You like Jackson Dart right now in seven starts, he's averaging 23 fancy points a game. He rushes for 45 yards. I did happen to catch the. Did you ever see the conversation between him and Gruden?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Where he basically, like Gruden, called the perfect shot. He said, I want you to change your play style because if you keep doing this, you're going to end up injured or in the Kakasha protocol. And then that video goes around while he's in Kakasha Protocol.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And Gruden was brutal. He's like, this is stupid. So hopefully that changes. But he's been. He's been great for fantasy. I'll go with Jackson dart as my start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I like it. I like it because I think people are worried with that first game back, but it's. It's not a soft tissue issue, so I'm not worried about that. I'm going with Brock Purdy as my start of the week versus Carolina on Monday Night Football. Brock looked great. He's had three starts this year, two plus touchdowns in each of them. He was the quarterback six this last week. And the Panthers, they can't rust rushed the pass. Their 31st impression rate from a clean pocket. Right now, the 49ers. Purdy is pretty good. Nine yards per attempt. That's third best in the NFL. Tie with Drake May for ninth in fantasy points per drop. Back the drop.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was wondering what that was.

[Andy Holloway]

The 49ers have 27.8 implied team total. Fifth highest of the week. It's a. It's an environment that I think is good for Brock. And he's at home in Monday Night Football.

[Jason Moore]

Even. Even his little profile picture right there doesn't dissuade you? No, it looks a little. Looks a little like a weird toy.

[Andy Holloway]

Like a weird toy?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Like a. Yeah, that's just not a normal smile. All right. Trayvon Henderson's my running back start of the week. Mike isn't here. He needs somebody to step up in his absence. Stay in the Flames. Even if Ramon Dre returns, it's about the matchup as well. Cincinnati, that'll work because their rushing defense is poo poo.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a lot like their passing defense.

[Jason Moore]

Right. They compete.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But 31st and expected points per rush, 31st in rushing yards per game. The Bengals, like, they're just not going to be. Even if you have a better than average performance, you're not going to hold back the big play from Trayvon Henderson. High expectations this week. We don't know if Ramon Ray is playing. It doesn't Dissuade me from Trayvon this week. So I'll go. Another rookie.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I like that you're doing that. In honor of Mike, who's not here. In honor of Mike who's not here. My start of the week is Kenneth Walker iii.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Ken Bone Avion and Ken Walker being.

[Jason Moore]

Our starts of the week while Mike's gone. Five weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

But we have to do it while Mike's gone. We can't possibly give validation. Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Moore]

I would never hate those guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, these guys suck. Ken bone Walker the third. He was running back 11 last week on 19 opportunities. That's been his most in almost two months. Coach came out and said what we've been wanting him to say, which is Kenneth Walker is earning more opportunities. Andy, you went out and definitely traded for him recently and it just completely fleeced the Falcon. The Titans rush defense, 29th in yards before contact allowed, 31st in rushing touchdowns allowed. The Seahawks are 13 and a half point road favorite. So it's a perfect game script. And I think Walker breaks a big play just like.

[Jason Moore]

Well, my wide receiver start of the week is going to be Tracy McGrady.

[Andy Holloway]

Nice. I like it.

[Jason Moore]

Not Tech shooting guard. I'm not calling him Tet. No, he doesn't want to be called Ted. So T. Mac Ted a Roa McMillan against San Francisco on Monday Night Football. You saw the ceiling last week. Eight for 130 and two from the NFC's Player of the week, Bryce Young. This game really moved the needle on those. On the season totals. On the season total. Projections like it all transformed where he was heading. He is one of six rookie wide receivers since 2015 with a 26 plus percent target share in that rookie season. He is tied with Trey McBride over the last month for the most receptions in the league. A true go to receiver and I'm going to go right back to him in this matchup. And I'm facing him this week. This is. Does not excite me.

[Andy Holloway]

I hate that.

[Jason Moore]

I hate when it excites me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it happens sometimes. We're here for the foot clan. First, my wide receiver start of the week, devonte Smith at Dallas.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I will never quit devonte Smith. I know. Last week he had one catch for eight yards. Philly fans are upset at their super bowl champion team that are, that is not, you know, that is not losing many games. They're, they're upset because their office hasn't been good. Dallas is here to cure the ills. Dallas's defense is better. It is better. I don't Want to just look at season long totals with some of the additions they made after the bye week, getting some injured players back. They looked good against the Las Vegas Raiders, but they, they now are not the Cincinnati Bengals. They are now a bottom half defense and they are still a bottom half defense.

[Jason Moore]

I think what's really improved for them has been the, the running and rushing defense. I think that's what Quinn and brings to the table. Yeah, you know, Quinn's not been able to get to the passer as much but stopping the run, that's what they've reinforced even with the Parsons trade. That's what they're trying to do. So that again lends itself towards maybe Saquon doesn't isn't relied upon as much if they can slow that down.

[Andy Holloway]

And the nice thing is this game is in Dallas. The biggest issue here is the Philly defense has been so good that they don't need to pass. But the fact that the game is in Dallas, I like the fact that Dallas might be able to actually score on Philadelphia a little bit and then they need to throw the ball. Devonte Smith is going to be in my lineup.

[Jason Moore]

All right. I'm going to round out the rookie platter here with Colston Dogland. That's right. Taking on Pittsburgh. I'm going Colston Loveland Steelers. It's about the matchup. 30th in schedule, adjusted fantasy points allowed to the tight end. He's right on the fringe of the wide receiver one even in our consensus rankings this week. What did I say?

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receiver one.

[Jason Moore]

We'll see.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, I'll be shocked.

[Jason Moore]

Tight end one and Loveland is a big play type of player. I think you're going to get a big play this week against the Steelers. It's a huge game for Chicago and so I'm going to go. There's a handful of tight ends I actually kind of like this week compared to some previous weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And, but, but I'm going to go with Loveland to round out the rookie rundown here.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going with what should hopefully be a layup in Hunter Hen. Hunter Henry against the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals defense is as we all know, it's very bad. But while they're bad against the run and they're bad against the pass, they are worst, worst, worst, worst against tight ends. They give it up every single week to tight ends. There's a 29 point team implied total, the second highest of the week. I want pieces of this game and specifically I mean you against the Bengals. Defense, you can essentially blindfold yourself with a grenade launcher and you'll hit the target.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. It's, it's, it's great to play the tight end. I mean, the Bengals are on pace to allow the most fantasy points of all time for the tight end position. So when I say they're bad, they're worst against tight end. I mean they're worst of all time. So, yeah, Hunter Henry, he's okay. He goes out there, gets three catches, three catches, 50 yards. He's a part of the offense. And then every now and then, every now and then he's the tight end one on the week. And this is one of those weeks where it's like he's going to go out and end up with two touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

My only concern about this game is if, if you know, you don't have Jamar Chase, if Burrow doesn't play and you know the game script flips and you don't get as much passing work.

[Andy Holloway]

Because, well, that's why you took, that's why you took Hindo. It makes sense. But I do think that they're still going to throw the ball for, you know, three quarters or at least for a half and that's enough to exploit the giant gaping hole in the Bengals defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they don't see tight ends.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, it's time for week 12. Let's do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy forecast presented by prize picks.

[Jason Moore]

We get the Colts and Saints back from the bye. The Broncos Chargers commanders and Dolphins are taking a week off and so you've got to find those starts and sits that make a difference. Pittsburgh 6 and 4. The Bears 7 and 3. That's their first matchup of the day. Jason Vegas line here. Chicago at home -2 and a half over unders 45 and a half. This is a battle between two division leaders. Shout out to the Steelers and Bears fans for coming this far. Chicago's defense, 30th in yards per play, but number one in turnovers. Force. They, they remind me of a handful of defenses in years past. Cardinals were like this a few years ago where they give up a lot of yards but they make big plays and they keep your team in the game and they can, they can do it that way. We'll see what happens here. I mean, Aaron Rodgers didn't practice on Wednesday. I believe the quote I saw this morning was like it'll be about safety is what he said with the broken hand and whether he can play safely, I guess the game of football.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he, I know he loves playing in Chicago. I watched him an interview of like how much he he's basically smirking and talking about how he's, you know, owned the Chicago Bears as a, as a Packer and he hopes he can play against Chicago again. Chicago, my understanding they love Aaron Rodgers. They just Chicago is a big fan of that guy.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think you're being serious.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think I'm being serious either.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean the whole world dislikes him.

[Jason Moore]

But I think there's Chicago special kind.

[Andy Holloway]

Of dislike and hatred for, for Bears.

[Jason Moore]

Fans Jaylen Warren and in the running back room on the other side. I think those discussions start us off here. I mean Warren didn't practice Wednesday. It seems like they're going to try to get him back out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Last I heard was he was, he wasn't practicing. It'll be slow, but they're hopeful that they have him this week.

[Jason Moore]

Which would put Gainwell on your bench. Yeah, flex.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. I, the matchup is really good. I mean the, the Bears for the last couple years haven't really been good against running backs. The last six weeks they've been better. So I, I do think that whoever the starter is needs to be started. Jalen Warren's been great. If he's there, I'll put him back in my lineup. Kenny Gainwell has been outstanding and if, if Warren is gone, Gainwell's an excellent start, but I don't want to start. I feel like the only way Gainwell has a really. I mean, you can always get touchdowns, but I think it would take a re aggravation to the ankle injury and that's not a bet. Like if you had to say Jalen Warren is starting, what percentage chance is it that he re aggravates that ankle? I'd say 15%. That's not a bet. I want, I want, I don't want to put a 15% bet on.

[Jason Moore]

And we have evidence here. Right. He was the, he was the running back. Four in week four. They go into the bye week. Jaylen Warren comes back his opportunities on the ground 63530 so it wasn't, you know, and last week it really came down to the receiving game. Right. Like he had two receiving touchdowns. It wasn't even, I mean it was nine for 24 on the ground. So it would be a really risky play. I'd rather play a Michael Carter in Arizona than a second fiddle Kenneth Gainwell personally.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

DeAndre Swift, they keep limiting him on Wednesday but he'll be back out there. Manangai is purely a touchdown or bus play which look that's worked out for two straight weeks where you got, you got the touchdown last week he actually had 12 carries on the ground. Just turned it into 23 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that. Certainly not in your average week and definitely not against the Steelers defense. Justin, for schedule, their fifth against running backs this year. Throw on the Steelers easier than you run on the Steelers.

[Jason Moore]

Temperature check on DK Metcalf. Alec Pierce against the Kansas City defense or DK Metcalf in this game against Chicago.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's really. I would go, I would go Metcalf over Alec Pierce. My temperature is very like chilly. I'm not excited for Metcalf but I do think he is the alpha. He's used around the goal line. And the matchup against the Bears is much, much better than the matchup against the Chiefs.

[Jason Moore]

It's wild. I mean his yardage the last six games. 50, 55, 6, 35, 49. That's a bad 55.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why I whispered it.

[Jason Moore]

Roma Dunes A. I guess I'm a little curious your perspective on the, you know, we saw it the Steelers did last week with Jalen Ramsey. I you know you've had DJ Moore out there. He's had the very, very occasional good game, good comments from Ben Johnson this morning around Luther Burden and the earned opportunities. How are you breaking down this wide receiver room? Like I'm a little nervous about A Dunes. They have top flight production.

[Andy Holloway]

I am too with the Ramsey matchup. I think that this is a good week to spread it around. Maybe that helps your Colston Loveland start of the week. I expect him to lead the team in targets but he has led the team in targets a lot of weeks recently where he hasn't gotten it done.

[Jason Moore]

Last week it's been a little red light. Green light.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Six targets, only two for 41. Now Rome is definitely someone you can start. He's a target leader for a team against a in a matchup at home where the opponent gives up a lot of points to fantasy wide receivers. So I believe he is a wide receiver too, but like a low end wide receiver too.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that was the end of that sentence.

[Andy Holloway]

That was it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It looked like you. I thought you were going to keep going for a second. Okay, well I think if you're planning on playing A Dunes A, you probably.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play Roma, Dunes A or Michael Wilson? That's like I'm looking at my rankings and those guys are really, really close.

[Jason Moore]

I would, I'm, I would play Michael Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I would too. And that's not how my rankings are right now. I think that's but I like I have Rome on my team and if I had Michael Wilson I would start him over him.

[Jason Moore]

I think that because Harrison's missing another week and the yardage totals that you feel safe with with Jacoby, the fact that they can stop the run in Jacksonville, I lean that direction and we've talked about Colson Loveland already. New England is 9 and 2. They take on the 3 and 7 Cincinnati Bengals. They've got such an uphill climb. Vegas line here. New England minus six and a half. The over under is a beautiful 50 and a half points. The line did shift from eight and a half to six and a half with the potential for Joe Burrow to return. The game is in Cincinnati. Like this would be one. It should be one. I actually think could be kind of up almost upset territory with Burrow out there. It's just missing. Chase is a big deal and coming back from injury to face New England, I, I just don't know if they can get it done. And the Patriots are rolling now. Their schedule's been great, but they've won all the games. I mean, you just doing what you're supposed to do. Eight straight wins and Cincinnati's defense, we've talked about it at length. Doesn't give you enough to really compete sometimes. And so, you know, you play Drake May, of course you play Travion. I'm comfortable with Diggs. I'm even comfortable flexing Mac Hollins. If K Sean Booty misses another week.

[Andy Holloway]

If Booty is active, would you be fine putting Booty in your lineup?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think if he's active, they're bringing him back because he's fully active.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I've got Hunter Henry as my start of the week. This is certainly a, this is a game script where, like I said, I want pieces of the Patriots offense. They probably all don't get it done, but I could see a world where they all get it done.

[Jason Moore]

Do you care about, I mean, the Patriots defense in the last six weeks? Yes. The matchups haven't been amazing, but do you, do you look at it and say, I'm worried about Chase Brown because they've been so good against running backs?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they have. I mean, that is like the one place where they've really shut people down both the last six weeks. Even on the course of the season, they're number one against, you know, in fantasy points given up to running backs. Thankfully, Chase Brown gets a lot of the dump offs and that hopefully will give him a high enough floor. But I, you know, he's been top 15 each of the last four weeks.

[Jason Moore]

If 14 targets two weeks ago, eight targets this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And then, and then if Jamar Chase is out even more, he's going to have a lot. So I expect him to finish around running back 15. He should probably still be started in most lineups.

[Jason Moore]

Higgins is a must start in this game. He has always been great without Jamar Chase available and they're going to need to throw the ball a ton.

[Andy Holloway]

Averages 8.8 targets and 102 receiving yards.

[Jason Moore]

Without Jamar Chase and Yoshi Voss.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, he. I picked him up in a league to play him.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Andre Yoshi Voss spelled with an I if you're looking for him on the league.

[Jason Moore]

I is for Yoshi, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I, O, S. Yosh.

[Jason Moore]

And then Mike did mention Noah. Fan. I don't feel amazing about it, but I could see it working out.

[Andy Holloway]

I get it. I really do get it. Because in those games, if Burrow is back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Kind of like, I think I would. I would play with fan.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. The Giants throw the ball around, you know? Right. No, we got you. The Giants at 2 and 9 taken on the 6 and 4 Detroit Lions highest implied point total of the week. Detroit at home in this one. I love all of the Detroit in this game. They're ten and a half point favorites. The Overrunners. Fifty and a half. They're coming off a loss, which they don't lose a lot, but when they do, they come back with a vengeance. I love Jared Goff. He is the honorary start of the week. He's a stream of the week. Gibbs. Yes. Amon Ra. And Jameson. Jameson's been the wide receiver 16, 3 and 8 the last three weeks. I think it's great. Again this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, Laporta means that both of those guys can have big games in the same game. Obviously, Jameer Gibbs is started in every situation always. But he's. This is the game script where he could maybe should be the running back one on the week. The only question mark on that entire side of the roster is David Montgomery.

[Jason Moore]

It really is a question mark.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I have David Montgomery on my team and I'm still hemming and hawing as to whether or not I'm going to start him.

[Jason Moore]

0 carries inside the 5 the last two weeks does not help.

[Andy Holloway]

It doesn't help now. Dan Campbell came out and said that they want to get Monty the ball more.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like they said that like three weeks ago.

[Andy Holloway]

They did. They said that.

[Jason Moore]

They know that they're the ones that control that. Right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But when you say it and then, darn, I just wish you say it again, I feel like it's going to happen. But I mean, last week was against Philly. Right. Philly truly and utterly dominated their offense.

[Jason Moore]

They had to turn carries the week before, which is the second highest of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They had to turn to the passing game, which didn't work either. And so David Montgomery ended up six carries for 27. I think you should play.

[Jason Moore]

Let's play him. The Giants 27th against the run in the last six weeks, 31st on the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Monty's getting a touchdown in this game.

[Jason Moore]

I do hope that the Giants can like. I hope Jackson Dart comes back, and I hope that they can keep up a little bit. We don't know about Darius Slayton's availability. I don't know if you saw this. You know who was out there getting all the work in lieu of Slayton, which should be on the radar, especially with Dart returning. Isaiah Hodgins. I mean, he had the majority, five or six catches in that game. If Slayton is out and Dart is back, I like Hodgins more in this game than I like Yoshi Voss. Really, I do. That's just.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Yoshivas, but.

[Jason Moore]

But I think Hodgins, we saw him, we've seen him before. He's just a dude that can step up into that role and be super, kind of like Sterling shepherd when needed or something. You know, you just. You get production and who else is going to do it?

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm playing. I am starting. David Montgomery.

[Jason Moore]

You made that call. I made that call right here on the show.

[Andy Holloway]

On the show.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, Jackson Dart, start of the week here. I think the opportunity is there. Dart is just too automatic with the rushing totals. What about the Tracy Singletary situation?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to avoid both of them. They are splitting work and they've both been pretty good. I think both will be pretty good going forward again. But when you're splitting work and you're playing against the Lions, who usually four years now, have shut down the run on the vast majority of their games, I don't want, you know, I don't want 15 points split up between two players.

[Jason Moore]

Manangai or either starter here.

[Andy Holloway]

Either starter here. I. Manangai is like, out for me. That's also.

[Jason Moore]

I only brought it up because I feel like the only way you're happy with these two guys is going to be them falling into the end zone like Mananga.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not really messing around with tight ends in this game. With Laporta out, I think. I think, you know, Brock Wright would be like desperation town.

[Andy Holloway]

No one needs to go to Brock Wright.

[Jason Moore]

You don't saw the seven targets. Yeah, you don't need to. Minnesota's four and six, they take on that Green Bay packers in Lambeau three, six, three and one and Green Bay six and a half point home favorites. Over. Under is 41 and a half. All right, here we go again.

[Andy Holloway]

JJ nine.

[Jason Moore]

I don't like the vibes, man.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you mean? He's. He's. He is rewiring neurological pathways.

[Jason Moore]

Andy, that can't possibly be a quote from him.

[Andy Holloway]

That is a quote from him about what nine is doing.

[Jason Moore]

And he makes the analogy of a cork just about to come off the bottle.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just about ready to pop. Hey, I hope so. I really do.

[Jason Moore]

I'm worried.

[Andy Holloway]

The mental aspect of the game is very legitimately important. The things that made Tom Brady or Michael Jordan better is not just the.

[Jason Moore]

It wasn't the just physical tools.

[Andy Holloway]

It is the mental aspect of the game. It is that neurological thing that they have that others don't.

[Jason Moore]

It's like you. You had all the physical tools.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. And it was just like you were.

[Jason Moore]

Held back, mentally weak of mine.

[Andy Holloway]

And so I. I do love players working on the mental side of the game. This feels a little Russell Wilson mental side of the game, like Danger Witch, you know, it's like, I'm just not confident that. It feels like you're. This is real. Try hard. Real, real. Like, I don't have a tough guy in me, so I'm limited. Yeah. So I'm trying to. I'm trying to come up with.

[Jason Moore]

It's all. It's all stuff we, We. We can buy into if the results are there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It really is true.

[Jason Moore]

You watched last week and you see how inaccurate and how many times he missed these receivers. And then you see Justin Jefferson, how frustrated he is. You know, Mike told me in confidence that he regrets his Jefferson trademark.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He's going for a championship. He traded his highest, his largest bullet, if you will, the biggest piece of ammunition he had for Justin Jefferson. That was his move to put him over the top. And now it feels like he traded for a wide receiver, too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then a bet on Jefferson is a bet on McCarthy. So again, you have confidence in Kevin O'. Connell. Like he. If there was ever, like, if you were in any situation, McCarthy was on any other team, and you're like, this dude's struggling, you'd be like, I. It'd be nice if he had Kevin o'.

[Andy Holloway]

Connell. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So I don't think that the. I mean, it would be the most sports media garbage to, like, a couple games, we're done. You know what I mean? That's. That's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

I think all three of us believed in McCarthy coming out of college. The college tape, he was highly accurate. He didn't throw that much because, you know, with the team he was on, they were usually in a lead and he was more of a game manager. But when he threw, he was outstanding. He has not looked the same. And now he's talked about how they have really really, really worked on changing the mechanics, like how he throws the ball. They want it different, and I think he's struggling.

[Jason Moore]

They don't like the straight up into the sky.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that's the struggle right now. I do think brighter days are ahead. Are they ahead?

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

Not in Lambo this week. In Lambo, Yeah, probably not.

[Jason Moore]

So, no. I talk about a tough environment with that defense and Michael Parsons bearing down.

[Andy Holloway]

On you, and probably I found a way to play Brock Wright, tight end for the Lions.

[Jason Moore]

You did?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If I had TJ Hawkinson on my team. Oh, that's. You don't have to do T.J. hawkinson.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, T.J. hawkinson was wide open last week down the sideline. Didn't you see that play? He just, you know, the ball was just about 45ft over his head. But, yeah, don't play Hawkinson. That. That ship has sailed. McCarthy, if you want to take pressure off him, maybe some utility of Aaron Jones. Right. I mean, that would be the one area where the packers defense is slightly average as opposed to above average.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's a legit revenge game for Aaron Jones. He's had a couple revenge games against the packers since he left the Packers. All of them have been pretty good. Not like, you know, number one running back on the week, but certainly a top 15 running back. I think Aaron Jones is a good play. 22 opportunities last week. That's. That's fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then where are you with Addison? Like, Jefferson gets the start no matter what because you just don't bench him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

And you hope you get a special game.

[Andy Holloway]

Addison is the one that you're allowed to bench and feel okay about it.

[Jason Moore]

But he's Alec Pierce or Jordan Addison.

[Andy Holloway]

Alec Pierce.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Dang. Yeah. We were on fire with Addison for a little while there.

[Andy Holloway]

Who would have thought how much people love Carson Wentz?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. He's got a little Winston in him. On the other side. We're monitoring the Josh Jacobs situation. Do we have any news on a.

[Andy Holloway]

He did not practice Wednesday.

[Jason Moore]

Right. But any Thursday updates here? We're. We're getting to the point where we might be able to find out a little east coast information. We'll take a look.

[Andy Holloway]

Is Green Bay east coast? That's not East Coast.

[Jason Moore]

Is it Wisconsin? They're probably on Central.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm on it.

[Jason Moore]

They're probably on Central. I don't. I don't actually know. I don't. They are Central. Okay. Yeah. It's weird, though, because, like, Brooksie. Brooksie's on East Coast.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And he's not too far away in Ohio. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

To me they all. They're all clumped. They're all together right in the middle upper part of the country where there are no mountains and there are frigid.

[Andy Holloway]

Lakes and they call it west cheese. They make cheese called the Midwest and is not.

[Jason Moore]

It's the Midwest.

[Andy Holloway]

It's way north and not west. So it's only west of the ocean.

[Jason Moore]

It's west of where they founded the country.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And that's where they thought maybe it all ended.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We are historians here. Christian Watson, I'm down to clown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think that that's the one wide receiver I would play with. Romeo Dobbs has been the higher targeted player. He had some drops. Romeo drops last week.

[Jason Moore]

No, I play Watson over him for the big play.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. Big play in the touchdown opportunity is usually Watson.

[Jason Moore]

And obviously you're all about Matthew Golden. You start him in all situations.

[Andy Holloway]

I have finally like, I don't usually cut rookie high drafted wide receivers or running backs. I'll roster them all year waiting for the breakout. But with Matthew golden, it's like confirmation bias because I never thought he was good and he shouldn't have been a first round pick but I was willing.

[Jason Moore]

To just be like, I've dropped him and picked him up a handful of times. Nobody cares that he's sitting out there on the way. By the way, we did get an update. Josh Jacobs stayed limited on Thursday. I'd be shocked if he didn't stay limited right up to game time. And we've been here with Josh Jacobs. He generally plays.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But he fights through injury. I would think game time decision. I bet you is what we hear tomorrow.

[Andy Holloway]

So I would agree that that could happen. I worry about his workload. Like when he was struggling with some injuries a while ago.

[Jason Moore]

I do too.

[Andy Holloway]

He's usually a 20 carry guy or somewhere up there and he came the other week and he had like 13 carries. They worked Emmanuel Wilson in and I would expect that to be.

[Jason Moore]

I think you're not going to be happy without a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he'll be like the running back. 20.

[Jason Moore]

You're going to play him?

[Andy Holloway]

If he's active, I will play him.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, let's take a break.

[Andy Holloway]

Would I play him over David Montgomery? Should I play him over David Montgomery?

[Jason Moore]

If he was active, I would. He's Josh Jacobs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. All right.

[Jason Moore]

That's probably what I would do. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back and see if Same Darnold can get it done against Tennessee. The holidays are back at Starbucks. So share the season with a peppermint mocha, Starbucks signature espresso, velvety mocha and cool peppermint notes topped with whipped cream and dark chocolate curls together is the best place to be at Starbucks.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Sunday morning folks. The lineup decisions are piling up faster than dirty dishes in the sink. Your running back's questionable and so is your outfit, but here's the good news. Uncrustables just dropped two new flavors built for the chaos of Sunday mornings. Up an apple and bright eyed berry with 12 grams of protein. They're tasty, they're feeling and they keep you fueled through kickoff. So yeah, go ahead and binge the late game Saturday night. You can still be a morning person come Sunday.

[Jason Moore]

Seattle 7 and 3, Tennessee 1 and 9 and to be clear, should be Owen 10. The Ocean Ricardo is donated.

[Andy Holloway]

They. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Amari D. Markado donated a game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he.

[Jason Moore]

I mean to Cam Ward and his family.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a game of historic collapse. You know, it was like never before seen. What was it, 19 points in two minutes or something like that?

[Jason Moore]

I mean the Cardinals were running into the end zone on a 73 yard touchdown to put the game away when D. Markato dropped the football and it was still from that point on impossible to come back. And the Cardinals gave it up and.

[Andy Holloway]

Then it was still impossible even when Cam Ward threw an interception.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah, that we fumbled in.

[Andy Holloway]

That we fumbled into their end zone and then they laid on it for a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

That was how they got their touchdown, was we intercepted their ball.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. So look, the Titans are this, this game is. This game's over before it starts. This game is the lowest implied point total of any team on any game the entire season. So the Tennessee Titans, they have scoring 13 and a half points. So here's the simple solution to that problem. I was on you start 0.0 Tennessee Titans and I do mean including Tony Pollard.

[Andy Holloway]

I was looking on price picks making a lineup for this week and I was looking at passing touchdowns and the 0.5.

[Jason Moore]

Not even a green goblet projection.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a red demon. It's like this is going to be tough, man.

[Jason Moore]

So they said that for him to give one. Yeah, no, I look one like Seattle's defense is amazing. They're coming off of a loss. Cam Ward has no options in the receiving game and the ones he does have are hurt or limited. Right. DK and IO Manor. You just lost Ridley again. Pollard is probably the most dull and Uninspiring fantasy start of the season, who last week was 10 for 22 on the ground and just biting his time until he can leave this team. And Tajie Spears. I don't want to start him either.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard is the absolute starter. Only one game this year that he hasn't had at least 10 carries, double digit opportunities the entire year and hasn't scored 10 fantasy points since week five. We're in week 12.

[Jason Moore]

I mean you're, you're. I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

He hasn't missed games. This is just every week it's like 7, 4, 5, 6 points. That's what you're getting from Tony Pollard. I mean, I'm not changing it.

[Jason Moore]

Tucker, I'm playing Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

Shane Tucker would be ahead of Tony Pollard.

[Jason Moore]

Everybody I can ahead of him. Michael Carter, Bam Knight.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play Tajie Spears ahead of him just for the hope of a big play?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, because Spears will catch five passes and you hope one of them does something which it probably won't, but it might.

[Andy Holloway]

And don't hear what we're not saying. Don't play Tajay Spears.

[Jason Moore]

I'd play Omarion Hampton over Pollard this.

[Andy Holloway]

Week and Spears, Right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because Omarion Hampton's injured on a buy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he's not still higher upside.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge upside. Huge upside. He's. I mean, he's not doing nothing. He's training.

[Jason Moore]

There's a better chance of him scoring six fantasy points is all I'm saying. On the other side, you have Kenneth Walker as your start of the week. I think the opportunities will be there. It was great to see the coach come out and say he's earned them. It's not going to be hard to maintain them because he's a better runner than Charbonnet. They do trust Charbonnet in a lot of situations. I think Sam Darnold, you know, he's probably not throwing four quarters, but two in this game might be enough for the fantasy production. I think you could go back to that.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, I figure in a, in a six point league you should, you should be around 18 fantasy points from Darnold.

[Jason Moore]

Lay of the land at the wide receiver position. Unfortunately, it's just JSN still Rashid Shahid's just.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you say unfortunately?

[Jason Moore]

I'm saying unfortunately in that there was optimism. Mike brought it up. He thought Shahid could be relevant there and he's only 3 for 30 and two full games since coming over.

[Andy Holloway]

So I think he will be relevant there on some deep shots and Important games.

[Jason Moore]

But I mean, that's the same for Horton. That's the same for cup, sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But I think this is fortunate because I didn't want Rashid Shahid to come over here and take away my sweet jsn.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he can only help. So, I mean, right now JSN is just a dominator. So it's not complicated. I do not have confidence that Barner will give you a back to back tight end week. I looked into this a little bit this week. They obviously he played great last week. He had 10 catches for 70 yards. This is not the game that I think they need him. That's all I'm saying. Like the week before he had no catches. He had one catch two weeks before that he could get into the end zone. But I don't expect it. I think the running game will get it done against Tennessee. Running game plus JSN is the equation that I'm looking at. So I would not actually like Barner is a. Like, would you play Schultz tonight? I'd probably play Schultz. Even though I know the matchup's not great. I'd probably do that over Barner personally.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Schultz has been super involved. I hate that matchup. Like I, you know, Schultz was my start of the week last week. I want to keep riding the flame that he's in with Davis Mills, but yeah, I would probably take him over Barner.

[Jason Moore]

The Colts.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know how many receiving yards JSN is on pace for?

[Jason Moore]

I do not. Can I take a shot? I guess, yeah. You thought about not letting me guess? Well, I don't know why you thought about that first.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know, you were like, maybe.

[Jason Moore]

I won't let you guess.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, guess.

[Jason Moore]

1700.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's what Jamar Chase did last year. 1700. That which obviously Jamar Chase won everybody their fantasy league. He's on pace for 1948.

[Jason Moore]

That's a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

That's near the all time record. JSN.

[Jason Moore]

Imagine how much better that would have been. And you know, let me guess. The Colts are eight and two. They take on the five and five Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City minus three and a half at home. The over under is fifty and a half. This game's crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

This game is this game.

[Jason Moore]

So this game's crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

When I'm making my price implications, my, my prize picks lineups because of the implications. Because of the implication.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. When I was making my prize picks lineups, I'm going to all these different Stats and I'm, and I'm scrolling through and every time I saw all these players, I mean, this game is chock full of. There's, there's so many projections, fantasy options everywhere. I just skipped it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I just was like not touching this game, not touching it because you know.

[Jason Moore]

How important this is to Kansas City.

[Andy Holloway]

And to the Colts. I mean, this is an important game between two teams, both who have right now super bowl aspirations. Like the Colts certainly believe they can win a Super Bowl. Whether you do or not. The Chiefs going into last week were the super bowl favorites. The Chiefs defense at home, oh, man, they're number on the season when you adjust for schedule. They're number three against quarterbacks, number eight against running backs, number three against wide receivers, number seven against tight ends. They have no holes, they have no weakness. They are at home. They are coming off a loss in a must win game. But the Colts have overcame pretty much every opponent, even the difficult ones, and they've showed up. And so I'm like, man, I don't know. I don't know what happens here.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, my first thought on this game is that this is the type of game Daniel Jones really struggles in, which is, I completely agree, road game, super confident defense that throws different looks at you that, you know, they can kind of un ravel a player like Daniel Jones and that might be what happens. But I'm also a little bit, you know, Colts are coming off a bye week, right? I mean, you're coming off a bye week with two weeks to prepare for Kansas City, who does have their own problems, right? In their own right. Starting with a running game that really hasn't been successful enough and you know, options that aren't really producing outside of Rashi Rice, like, I don't know, it's just a very interesting game to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the truth. When I was looking at all those lineups, I wanted to take the less on everything for the Colts. I think the Colts, I think the Colts will really get handled by the Chiefs. That's kind of how I view it. But I don't personally want to bet against Colts at all. Like they've, every time we've thought like maybe it's not for real and they're coming off a buy. Like I could see them showing up and just shocking the world. And if the Kansas City Chiefs are five and six after this week, oh, darn. I mean, what a shame right now they're not in the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man, that would be so bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Give them another loss. That's, that's tough.

[Jason Moore]

Daniel Jones, Patrick Mahomes for fantasy. Mahomes has been crushing at Arrowhead. 260 and almost three touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

You play him, that's an easy Mahomes. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Daniel Jones, it's a little more nerve wracking. Like if I had him at Brissette. I'm playing Brissette, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I'm playing, I'm playing Brock Purdy, Sam Darnold over Daniel Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I would play Sam Darnold over. You know, there's four games this year where he has been outside a top 12 quarterback and some of them have been pretty bad. That's the range of outcomes for Daniel Jones. He's not a must start.

[Jason Moore]

Jonathan Taylor is.

[Andy Holloway]

He is a must start. The matchup is brutal and you just don't.

[Jason Moore]

Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, who do you like more and do you like them both more than like a Michael Wilson?

[Andy Holloway]

So Michael Pittman. I love Michael Pittman. He's the wide receiver. 11 on the season. If I had to play one of these two guys, I think I might go Pierce just because of the big shot opportunity for a play. I don't love either. I am playing. So my decision that I made of playing Jonathan Taylor, it is over Michael Pittman or I'm sorry, not. Look, I'm going out on a limo start. Jonathan Taylor over Michael Pittman. No, David Montgomery over Michael Pittman. I, I, you know, it's going to be tough sledding for the passing game here. I think if the Colts win this game, it has to be on the.

[Jason Moore]

Back of Jonathan Taylor and some Tyler Warren.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And that's an area where Tyler Warren.

[Andy Holloway]

Has started for sure.

[Jason Moore]

You can beat the Chiefs a little bit. Last six weeks giving up 12 points a game to the tight end. That's 18th best in the league. On the other side, you know, Rashi Rice. It was a down week last week. You play him, Kelsey quietly the tight end too on the year. So I guess you stay there. Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You talk about quiet. That blows my mind.

[Jason Moore]

That's with a bye week. That's with a bye week. 50 for 631 and 4.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

And you look at the game log. The game log is like, I mean his consistency ranking right now is a B. It's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And you probably need them in the, in the running game again.

[Andy Holloway]

Now can you start Xavier Worthy?

[Jason Moore]

No, silly goose.

[Andy Holloway]

But there's still a lot. There's still four starts, right? You're starting Mahomes. I think you should start Kelsey. Kelsey, you should obviously start Rice and you should start Cream Hunt.

[Jason Moore]

See, I didn't even know the name you were going to say because we got what, full practice from Pacheco now.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, did we?

[Jason Moore]

I think so.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll. Yeah, if Pacheco's back, then I'm. Then I'm.

[Jason Moore]

You're down to three starts.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, then I'm down to three starts. But if Pacheco is gone, I mean, cream hunt had 80% of the snaps last week. You know, right now the Chiefs are favored. They're at home. He's been used around the goal line. So yeah, four starts. If Pacheco doesn't play. If Pacheco plays, no starts.

[Jason Moore]

I was just curious if there were Pacheco start sit questions coming in and there are like in the popular list, Rashad White.

[Andy Holloway]

That is perfect. Rashad White or Isaiah Pacheco. I would go white with Pacheco coming right off the injury.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I think that's it for today's matchups. Injury updates. Aaron Rodgers expected to practice on Thursday. Josh Jacobs will do individual drills and practice today and see where the knee feels going into the weekend. And that was fantasy forecast presented by Prize picks. Join millions of users and sign up for America's number one fantasy sports app. Use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups when you play. $5 more matchups tomorrow. The awesome cool wheel of shame will happen. Fun payback, I think. And fantasy face off tomorrow. You don't want to miss it, so come back right here. Make sure you subscribe over on YouTube. Follow the show on this Spotify and Apple podcasts and don't Forget the giveaway FootClangiveaway.com assigned James Cook Jersey one week away. You can head over there and enter for free. We'll catch you next time.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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