Starts of the Week + Week 14 Breakdown, TESLAA TIME! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/4

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode: Starts of the Week + Week 14 Breakdown, TESLAA TIME!

Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Episode Overview

The Fantasy Footballers bring top-tier fantasy advice and trademark humor ahead of a crucial Week 14 for fantasy managers. The trio digs into their “Starts of the Week,” analyzes key matchups, breaks down injury news, and navigates pivotal start/sit decisions to help listeners secure playoff positions. “Teslaa time” and playful jabs fill the air, but it’s all business when it comes to advice designed to win leagues.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Teslaa Time & Thursday Night Football

• The ongoing “Teslaa time” sound drop leads to banter about its rising volume and in-show antics.
• Start/Sit Dilemmas: Teslaa (Isaac Teslaa) is a hot topic—featured in 12 of the top 15 start/sit questions for the week.

“He’s only in 1, 2, 3…12 of our top 15 start/sit questions of the week.”
— Andy Holloway (02:12)

• DK Metcalf vs. Upside Plays: Teslaa’s situation becomes a point for discussion about pivoting from underperforming stars for streamer upside.

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2. News & Notes (05:17–10:45)

Injuries & Transactions

• Mark Andrews: Unexpected 3-year, $39M deal with Ravens. Team clarity tips in his favor for at least three more seasons.
• Amon-Ra St. Brown: Listed as questionable for Thursday, no practices, not expected to play. If he’s active, play him, but nerves are warranted (06:04).
• Other notables: Woody Marks (expected to play), Brian Thomas Jr. (opportunity with Parker Washington out), Marvin Harrison Jr. (worrisome heel injury, trending toward missing time).
• Trey Benson: May be done for the year if not activated soon.
• Drake London: PCL injury, not practicing.
• Tee Higgins: Limited with concussion.
• Dalton Kincaid: Limited; optimistic outlook.
• Chris Olave: Didn't practice; his back issue is a concern.

Fantasy Impact

• Monitor veterans who aren’t typically rested; missing Wednesday practice is a red flag for young WRs like Rome Odunze.
• Backfields clarified: Rico Dowdle to remain Cowboys’ primary early down back.

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3. Starts of the Week (10:45–18:44)

Quarterbacks

• Trevor Lawrence (Mike, 10:53):
  • “Top 12 in four of five. Colts’ D is a good matchup; low pressure and vulnerable to the pass.”
• Jared Goff (Andy, 11:35):
  • “Highest over/under of the week. Dallas has been a punching bag for fantasy QBs.”
• Matthew Stafford (Jason, 12:13):
  • “Protected in a dome, top team total, lowest pressure rate in the league, great spot vs Cardinals.”

Running Backs

• Devin Neal (Mike, 12:58):
  • “Not a ceiling play, but safe for volume. Bucs D beatable since Week 9.”
• Chase Brown (Andy, 13:42):
  • “Bills are a run funnel. Great upward trend; double fantasy production since early year.”
• Quinshon Judkins (Jason, 14:16):
  • “All the work, especially in the red zone. Browns are favorites, great TD upside.”

Wide Receivers

• Jameson Williams, Michael Wilson, Amon-Ra St. Brown (comedic segment as each host tries to get the camera for their WR pick, 15:06–15:46).
• Michael Wilson (Jason):
  • “If Marvin Harrison’s out or limited, Wilson has target share and Rams can’t be run on.”

Tight Ends

• Dalton Kincaid (Mike, 16:31):
  • “Love the matchup, risk with injury, but once healthy he eats vs Bengals. If out, Dawson Knox is a deep-league play.”
• Kyle Pitts (Andy, 17:24):
  • “No London? Pitts is guaranteed 5+ targets; Seattle can’t defend TE. He won't goose you.”
  • “Don't play Kyle Pitts—except this week. What are you doing? Eight targets last week.” (17:34)
• Brenton Strange (Jason, 17:56):
  • “Two top-5 finishes since return, 83% snaps, Colts are dreadful vs TE.”

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4. Fantasy Forecast – Game-by-Game Week 14 Breakdown (20:49–55:41)

Seattle Seahawks vs Atlanta Falcons

• Seattle: Start both RBs (Walker, Charbonnet), JSN should bounce back, Seattle's defense is a go.
• Atlanta: Bijan Robinson is a clear play. If Drake London is back, start him, but it’s a tough matchup.
• Kyle Pitts: Start of the Week with London out (27:21).

Cincinnati Bengals at Buffalo Bills

• High-stakes, high-scoring expectation (over/under moved up to 53.5).
• Bengals: All main pieces are playable. T. Higgins trending toward playing is big news.
• Bills: Josh Allen, James Cook, Dalton Kincaid (if active) are all green lights.
• Weather: Possible snow and 20-degree weather could slow things.

Tennessee Titans at Cleveland Browns

• Over/Under: Ultra-low (33.5).
• Recommendation: “Play CLE DST, bench all Titans. Pretend the Titans are on a bye.” (33:54)
• Judkins and Fannin: OK for desperate Browns owners.

Washington Commanders at Minnesota Vikings

• Start Justin Jefferson: “If you can’t play JJ in this matchup, there will never be a time to do it again.” (37:34)
• QB pressure on JJ McCarthy: “This might be your career, JJ. This is the game that decides if you’re a career backup or not.” – Andy (36:12)
• Terry McLaurin: Solid play, and Chris Rodriguez as a desperation flex.
• Zach Ertz vs. Kyle Pitts: “Ertz is way better than Kyle Pitts.” (41:01)

Miami Dolphins at New York Jets

• Jets: Breece Hall calls himself a decoy (“Just call me decoy”—Breece Hall, 44:55). Not much faith elsewhere, but targets Adonai Mitchell for boom plays.
• Miami: Devon Achan is a machine; Jalen Waddle’s usage is there but doesn’t feel mighty—start but temper expectations.

New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

• Chris Olave: Start if healthy; important for Shuck’s viability.
• Devaughn Vele: “If Olave doesn’t play, Vele is in play” (51:10).
• Tyler Shuck: Improving across recent games—trending toward a full-season pace of 4,300 yards, 23 TDs.

Bucs Skill Players

• Bucky Irving: Clear lead back, heavily used.
• Emeka Egbuka: Not a must-start, but “I’m okay with it—I want the targets.” (54:29)

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5. Lightning Round: Fun, Stats, Banter, and Culture

• “Teslaa time” sound drop antics - recurring joke about in-show effects and production overkill.
• Mason Taylor, Tight End Tackling Trivia
  “He is alone above 20 receptions with no forced missed tackles.”
  — (47:01, confirmed by Kyle, producing laughs at Taylor’s ‘kitty cat’ status)
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Kids don’t do drugs. And don’t play Kyle Pitts.” – Andy (17:24)
  • “He won’t goose you—which is a big accomplishment for the tight end position.” – Andy (17:49)
• On Saints QB Tyler Shuck’s emergence:
  “He’s on pace for 4,300 yards, 23 touchdowns. That’s starter-worthy.” – Andy (52:16)
• Playoff Push Perspective:
  “These next two weeks will determine everything for the Bengals.” – Andy (30:09)

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Notable/Memorable Moments & Quotes

| Quote | Speaker | Timestamp | |---|---|---| | “He’s only in 1, 2, 3…12 of our top 15 start/sit questions of the week.” | Andy Holloway | 02:12 | | “Teslaa is a scratcher and you don’t always win on scratchers, but you can’t win if you don’t play.” | Jason Moore | 03:02 | | “You know me, I’m famous for a few sayings: Kids don’t do drugs. … Don’t play Kyle Pitts. But this week… play. What are you doing? Kyle Pitts.” | Andy Holloway | 17:24 | | “If you can’t play Jefferson in this game, you will never need. There’s never a time to play him again.” | Andy Holloway | 37:40 | | “Just call me decoy.” | Breece Hall (quoted by Andy) | 44:55 | | “He is alone above 20 receptions with no forced missed tackles.” | Kyle, Tight End Stat | 47:01 | | “He’s on pace for 4,300 yards, 23 touchdowns. That’s starter-worthy.” | Andy Holloway | 52:16 | | “Play CLE defense and I benched all my other players. Pretend the Titans are on bye.” | Andy Holloway | 33:54 |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Teslaa/Start Sit Philosophy: 02:10–03:20
• News and Notes: 05:17–10:45
• Starts of the Week: 10:45–18:44
• Seattle vs Atlanta Analysis: 24:11–27:59
• Cincinnati vs Buffalo: 28:18–31:32
• Tennessee vs Cleveland: 31:39–34:09
• Washington vs Minnesota: 35:50–41:04
• Miami vs New York Jets: 43:48–49:10
• Saints at Bucs / Tyler Shuck: 49:56–54:03

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Overall Tonality

The show maintains a high-energy, comedic, and authentic tone, full of inside jokes and fantasy wisdom. The camaraderie of the hosts shines, but actionable advice is always front-and-center—especially concerning playoff clinching lineup decisions.

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Quick Takeaways for Fantasy Managers

• Don’t get cute or overthink starting your studs in premium matchups (Justin Jefferson, Bijan Robinson, Michael Wilson if Harrison is out).
• Volume trumps upside risk for mid-tier RBs like Devin Neal, Chase Brown.
• Keep a close eye on injury practice reports through the week.
• CLE defense is top tier against dreadful offenses—in full fade on Titans.
• Use late-week updates to make pivots at WR and TE, especially if your guy is trending toward a DNP.
• Don’t force streamers; trust core players unless the volume dictates otherwise.

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End Note

“Don’t let us down, Isaac (Teslaa)!” – Mike Wright (56:33)
All roads lead to playoff victory or heartbreak—this cast arms you to meet the moment.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

It's just the time.

That was a pretty good scream there.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that was pretty good. Oh, I didn't even feel like the electricity was that loud. Maybe because the intro is playing.

Is that a new cut or is that the same one?

[Jason Moore]

Same one.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. Well timed, Mike. I'm impressed.

[Jason Moore]

He was ready. He is ready.

[Andy Holloway]

The only thing that made me really sad is we do our the prize picks for Friday Face off and I can't do anything from the Thursday. Yeah, I know. I like wanted to do JMO stuff and everything from this game tonight. More, more, more, more, more. No. I can't believe we got an. It's Tesla time. Of course we did. He's only in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. 12 of our top 15 start sick questions of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if that's because of yesterday's show or it was already that way. I mean, we're talking Metcalf, Devin Neal, Troy Franklin, Devon Vale, Alec Pierce, Quentin Johnston, Roma Dunes, Jaden Higgins, Chris Godwin, Chris Rodriguez.

[Mike Wright]

It makes sense because the matchup is there and it's the. It was. It's like a free entry into the.

[Andy Holloway]

Game, into that matchup.

[Mike Wright]

Like off your waiver wire. Like it is. If you didn't have one of the players who are just established on your roster, you didn't. You don't get in on the action. But Tesla is like anyone, if you wanted to pay up on the waiver wire, you get a. You get a chance.

[Jason Moore]

It's a scratcher oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. Tesla is a scratcher and you don't always win as scratchers, but you can't win if you don't play.

[Andy Holloway]

And Brooks said it's also a nice excuse to pivot from a disappointing player. Like if you, if you're staring DK Metcalf down as a star and you go, there's this dude that has this electricity drop.

Who you start.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So, I mean, I've played DK enough to know that I don't want to do that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he looks like a, like a 90s fitness instructor. Is this Chuck Norris?

I mean, goodness. Yeah, Brooks just said that drop does feel louder.

[Mike Wright]

I make it. I make it 2% louder every time I put.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm surprised we don't do the red light or we should do yellow light while that happens. How did you not overproduce that?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, my bad.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you overproduce everything. Listen, I apologize, okay? It should have been bright yellow through the entire studio. Get it fixed.

[Jason Moore]

Little buzzers in the seat that go off when it hits it. Just a little. Just give me a budget, boys. I'm going to make it happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, crap. Welcome into the chat.

[Mike Wright]

It's too late because if he doesn't do something tonight, the world will turn on him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but if he does something tonight, this has to be ready for tomorrow morning.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yes.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what I mean. We have a big show for you start to the week today. The fantasy forecast. Getting into Week 14 matchups. It is playoff time or just about. We're going to get you in there or do our best to get you in there. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. You can watch the fantasy Hitman on Sunday live. This week he will be live an hour before kickoff to get you primed with last minute. This time of year there's a lot of last minute weather adjustments unfortunately. And he'll be ready for you on Sunday morning. So subscribe. Click the bell over there. JoinTheFoot.com is the community. All the premium in season tools, the ultimate dashboard support the show. Get an extra episode of the show every week. The foot cast that'[e-mail] it's time for news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

I. I have to start with the most mind blowing news. It just caught me so off guard. The Ravens signed. They signed Mark Andrews to a three year, $39 million contract extension with 25 million guaranteed. This was a player that felt like they were actively trying to push off the roster during the off season and draft season.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah, you paid Mark.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean he wasn't under contract after this year. This was going to be a one and none situation. They're going to move on to Isaiah Likely who now Isaiah Likely is. He also is not under contract.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he's probably gone.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's probably gone. And Mark Andrews is the new future for the Baltimore Ravens.

[Andy Holloway]

Wild did not expect that at all. But an update for tonight. I'm on Ross St. Brown officially listed as questionable for tonight's game. He has not practiced at all. We are not expecting him to play. If he plays, if he plays, please don't play to slaw.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it really.

[Andy Holloway]

That is a very, very important if.

[Mike Wright]

This then that I'm in full agreement and it would create such a. You're in horrific situation.

[Jason Moore]

You're in majority agreement. You're not in full agreement. I think you'd still be like, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

The matchup I'm playing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Wright]

You're not going to stop me from playing him. But I mean if he, if Almond Rob plays that's just like how do you, how do you not play him? And then every cut he makes you're going to be like, oh no.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there will be a re injury chance for sure. Woody Marks will be fine for Week 14 against the Chiefs. He was a DMP on Wednesday but D' Amico Ryan's came out and said that Parker Washington not practicing. We are not expecting him to play but we will monitor the practice reports. Brian Thomas Jr. With an opportunity. Britton Strange still with the opportunity and Jacoby Myers producing quite well for just arriving to the team and they're winning ball games. Common on Guy Rome Adunes a didn't practice on Wednesday. You can't play him if he doesn't play. Jay.

[Jason Moore]

No, I can't.

I mean it's tough on a Wednesday. I haven't heard anything overly negative where you expect but it's worth, it's worth paying attention to because these aren't players that have been missing Wednesday practices. These aren't veterans that you're just used to giving that Wednesday day off. So we'll pay attention tomorrow.

[Andy Holloway]

Jim Harwell said Omarion Hampton is on track and looking good for week 14. He also said a bunch of complimentary stuff about Kamani Vidal. Yeah, it should be both of those guys.

[Mike Wright]

He said the proof is in the pudding with the way he's played. He's played like a number one back and quote, it warms the cockles of the heart to see Vidal Embrace contact.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean in December, this is the time of year to have the cockles of your heart warmed.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And Vidal Sassoon is providing that for Mr. Harbaugh.

[Andy Holloway]

Rico Dowdle will remain the team's primary early down back according to Dave Canales.

[Mike Wright]

I mean they're on by but that is an interesting piece of information to put out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Trey Benson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Both didn't practice on Wednesday for the Cardinals. Jonathan Gannon said, quote, we'll see about.

[Mike Wright]

Benson and Cannon canon into the canon. Oh yeah, get out of my life.

[Jason Moore]

The Gannon cannon just need it in.

[Mike Wright]

The sun, the moon, I don't care where.

[Jason Moore]

It's funny because that is not of our atmosphere when things were looking up for the Cardinals or there was hope or optimism.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean we were two and oh, by the way, you know this, right? We were two and oh yeah, with Tyler, they're now three and nine.

[Mike Wright]

Week one was the Saints. Well, I don't remember who week two was, but I thought it was like the softest opening.

[Jason Moore]

It was we played against.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the Saints were the opening matchup. Marvin Harrison Jr. House is he'll doing okay says Jonathan Gannon.

[Jason Moore]

He's giving no responses at all. He is. I mean Gannon was like oh, all kind of rosy and kind when things had hope. And now while your team is doing bad and you're coaching poorly, you're like, I'm a grump. Yeah, we'll see. It's just like what a turd. That being said, both of these injuries seem significant.

Marvin Harrison Jr. They tried to get him back in the game when he hurt his heel last week he wasn't able to stay on the field and now he's missing practice right now. So this is like worrisome for me. I'm not sure I would really even want to play him if he's active for fear that this is a re aggravation. And then Trey Benson, if he doesn't play this week, he's done for the year because his 21 day window is coming up.

[Andy Holloway]

Big names for today's matchups. Drake London not practice with the pcl. T. Higgins returned to a limited practice trying to get back from the concussion protocol.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Dalton Kincaid limited. Crystal Lave didn't practice re aggravated his back issue. So we're monitoring that. Mike Evans, Jalen McMillan, both limited and their 21 day windows are open. That doesn't mean they'll play this week. That was today's news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions.

[Jason Moore]

Starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Mike, I'll let you kick it off with your quarterback start of the week, week 14. It's a big one.

[Mike Wright]

I will say this is a interesting and hard week for starts of the week where it's like the no brainers versus the where you're trying to find the matchup and the good plays, the sneaky plays. It's a tougher week for it. But this week I'm going with Trevor Lawrence. I think he was one of our streamers of the week but I think he is worth a start. We got the over under at 48 and a half. That's the third highest. He has been a top 12 quarterback in four of the past five weeks. And the Colts defense, they're just, they're beatable. They're 28th in passing yards per game allowed and 27th at pressure rate. So they're not getting to the quarterback, they're not stopping the pass. Trevor Lawrence, for all of his flaws, I think that he's in play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, my stream of the week is my start of the week. Jared Goff himself.

[Mike Wright]

Jared, Jared.

[Andy Holloway]

Highest over under the week. We already know about this. The dominator himself, he can propel you into the playoffs. Dallas has been a punching bag all year long against fantasy for fantasy quarterbacks. Dead last in yards allowed, but don't worry, also dead last in points allowed.

[Mike Wright]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

We're just going to be dead last in everything. And golf can be dead first in your lineup.

[Mike Wright]

I mean you could call that first. Yeah, you don't have to call it last.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, it's going to be great. Golf's going to be awesome. Regardless of the Almond Ross situation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he'll be fine. The matchup is great. I'm going with Matthew Stafford. He's coming off of a week where he threw a pick six and another interception. They lost shockingly to the Carolina Panthers. I think it's time he's going to get that MVP odds back up over Drake May again. He's number two right now in the odds. The Rams have the third highest implied team total. This is a really, really cold week. Like all around the country. It's going to be games in the 20s, some snow. I love that. This is just in a dome, kind of protected. He also ranks number one in passing touchdowns, number two in passer rating and he's facing the lowest pressure rate in the NFL. The Cardinals aren't a scary defense. So I would have Stafford in my.

[Mike Wright]

Lineup this week at running back. I think you can play Devin Neal this week against Tampa Bay.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoa.

[Mike Wright]

The opportunities are there. Like week 12. 74% of the snaps, 14 opportunities. Last week, 82% and he got up to 17 total opportunities. Ran a route on 71% of the dropbacks. And since week nine, the Bucks have struggled a bit against fantasy running backs. We had the Trevo game, James Cook, Bam Knight had over 15 points against this Tampa Bay defense. So I.

[Andy Holloway]

It's.

[Mike Wright]

It is a. It's not a ceiling play. But if you're looking for someone who's just going to get a bunch of opportunities, then Devin Neal and still be able to do something with it, I think he's playable.

[Andy Holloway]

We know about the run funnel for the Buffalo defense. They're dead last in rushing touchdowns allowed 31st and 31st. And yards per carry allowed 31st, 30 forced. Look, it all leads to Chase Brown of the Cincinnati Bengals against Buffalo this week. If you had the patience to stay with Brown, you've been rewarded. It was not a great start to the year. Not only was the team injured, but he was awful. And yet he's basically doubled his fantasy Production from week 6 to 13 per week from where he was at the beginning of the year. I love Chase Brown against Buffalo.

[Jason Moore]

All right, all right. I'm going with Quinshon Judkins against the Tennessee Titans. If you look at the full season, the Titans are really, really bad against the run. If you look at the last month, they've been getting much better against the run. However, this is still a situation where I am absolutely playing quinch on Judkins. It's very rare to find the Browns in favored games where you expect them to win. They are in this matchup, they're four and a half point home favorites and he's getting all the work. He's getting all of the red zone works. Six rushing touchdowns inside the red zone. That's as many as Henry or Jameer Gibbs since week six. He's the only player in the NFL with 100% of their teams carries inside the five yard line. So I think he's got great touchdown opportunities here in this game.

[Mike Wright]

All right. A wide receiver. Okay, I got.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, gosh.

[Mike Wright]

Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on, guys.

[Jason Moore]

Guys, hit the button.

[Mike Wright]

Come on.

Come on. Go to Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fine. Also. Give me the camera, guys.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, this is perfect. Guys, this is perfect.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on.

[Jason Moore]

What could go wrong?

[Andy Holloway]

Come on. It's Jameson Williams. Come on.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my God. Go to Jason. It's Amon Ra.

Let's hope Amon Ra doesn't play. Guys, my wide receiver. I'm going with Michael Wilson in that.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

So the news on Marvin Harrison is negative. I don't know for sure if he plays. I'm scared to play him. But Michael Wilson still had seven targets in a down game last week. He was still very involved two out of the last three games. We know he was amazing. You cannot run on the Rams, like at all. Bam. Knight is not going to get it done against the Los Angeles.

[Andy Holloway]

I run from them.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And so they're going to have to throw the ball. Jacoby is going to throw for 250 plus. And I think Michael Wilson will be the number one wide receiver at the end of this game over Marvin Harrison. If I had both and Marv was playing, I would play Michael Wilson. I just don't want people to completely go, hey, Wilson had a bad game. Marva's back, so you can't play Wilson. I don't think that's true.

[Mike Wright]

At the tight end position. It's going to be insert Buffalo Bills tight end. They're playing the Bengals. We love the matchup and I think we are. The latest that I've read on Dalton Kincaid is that it's trending to be he'll be active. And I just saying, like if I have Dalton Kincaid and I've been trying to piecemeal a tight end position from just the scraps on waivers, I would go right back to Dalton Kincaid. It carries risk because of, you know, missing time with. I'm pretty sure it's a hamstring. Always risk of re aggravation. But he's been out long enough that I think once he's back he will like, he will have success against the Cincinnati Bengals and should he miss, I think rolling the dice on Dawson Knox, if you're in a deeper league does make sense.

[Andy Holloway]

It's because the Bengals defenders don't see tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Somehow they don't. And which is wild because tight ends are generally humongous.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They don't. They don't see it. You know me, I'm famous for a few sayings. Kids don't do drugs. That's one of the ones I always say. I always say that and. And then I always say, don't play Kyle Pitts. But this week I'm going to say play. What are you doing? Kyle Pitts last week, eight targets.

[Jason Moore]

You could choose this man.

[Andy Holloway]

Seven for 82. What are you doing? I don't think London's back and I think Pitts is guaranteed for five and about this many.

Seattle cannot defend the tight end position either. He will not goose you, which is a big accomplishment for the tight end position.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm going with a better tight end. I'm going to go with Britain. Strange against Indy, he returned after two months off with back to back top five finishes. Last week he was on the field for 83% of the snaps, had 45 yards and a touchdown. You know, if you're constantly getting goose eggs or you don't know what to do, you need, you know, to have more than five points at the tight end position while hoping for a touchdown. I think Strange is good. He's also got a great playoff schedule coming on and this week takes on the Colts defense that ranks 28th and schedule adjusted fantasy points 31st in receiving yards allowed to tight ends. So I think the matchup is good. The fact that you've got Parker Washington dealing with his injury as well. I'm happy to start Brenton Strange this week.

[Andy Holloway]

All righty. There you go. Kyle made all these bullet points for JMO and Tesla. We're not using any of those. We'll take a break, we'll get into the forecast.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Fantasy forecast presented by prize picks.

[Andy Holloway]

It's week 14. The 49ers, Giants, Panthers and Patriots are taking a week off.

From my understanding, the Patriots, actually, they wanted to play, but they couldn't find anybody with a worse record than the teams they've already played.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And they're like, I guess we'll just face nobody.

It's tough, man.

[Mike Wright]

It's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

It's tough.

[Mike Wright]

It'll be fascinating.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not. Yeah, I mean, it's basically the top picks in the draft. Like, if you want to look at their schedule, it's the top picks in the draft. You get New Orleans and Tennessee and Cleveland and Atlanta and the jets and the Bengals and the Giants.

[Jason Moore]

And this is what we saw.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, they beat Tampa Bay. That was a tough game on the road. I want to give them credit. And they beat Buffalo, Buffalo 2320 on the road. They did lose to the Raiders and Pittsburgh, but you played the schedule in front of you.

[Jason Moore]

So the Patriots this year are, I mean, obviously they're playing a fourth place schedule. You always want the fourth place schedules. That works for, you know, the 49ers. They got the easy schedule, they're winning games. The Patriots, last year, this was the commanders, you know, and it was like, oh, how's it going to, how are they going to fare when it's not the easiest schedule out there and it's tougher.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, I. Look, we, I think Drake May is awesome. I think, I think having him a part of the story this year, being a favorite as a young quarterback. We were talking about the quarterbacks that were drafted last year with Jaden and Drake May and then Bunix and, you know, Caleb Williams and like that's a great new crop of quarterbacks that J.J.

[Jason Moore]

Mccarthy and I'm me.

[Andy Holloway]

It's, it's not quite what we've gotten this year either. Like, we have Jackson Dart, who I think excites everybody.

[Jason Moore]

Tyler Schuck is impressed. Me.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Schuck is.

[Jason Moore]

He's not.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Shuck is not.

[Jason Moore]

No, I get it.

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody.

[Jason Moore]

They will draft a quarterback jersey.

[Andy Holloway]

Sales are not high.

[Jason Moore]

That's all I'm saying. But on film, I'm just really, I am still my Son came with.

[Andy Holloway]

Came to me the other day. I just told this to Mike. He's like, dad, dad, listen. We got to buy Tyler Shuck cards. We got to buy Tyler. He's like, I believe. I believe in him. And I said it'll be tough because they're going to be at the very tippy top of the draft. Maybe the number one pick. And Tyler Schuck is the Brandon Whedon of his a. Of his. Of his generation. He is older.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And you have to make this judgment call right away. Do you build your franchise around him? And I just think it's going to be a hard, hard, hard sell because he might be more career backup type guy. I don't know. The way this year ends may determine what they do because they could trade the pick to a quarterback needy team. We already know their situation at the cap. They need more quantity of rookie contracts.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The truth is Shuck is playing for his job right now because if he goes out there and wins two or three more games along the way in the last month, he's going to. He's going to literally stop them from having the pick that will allow them to get, you know, the number one or number two quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

All righty. Seattle nine and three, Atlanta four and eight. That's our first matchup. And Vegas line here. Seattle minus seven. I made Jason and Mike at lunch yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

This was funny.

[Andy Holloway]

I had just seen the brand new super bowl odds. The rams are number one plus four, 35 or 425, whatever. And I made them try to guess the team that was number two in the super bowl to make the Super Bowl.

[Jason Moore]

And we took about 10 guesses.

[Mike Wright]

We got. We nailed three, four, five, six, seven. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You got eight. You got them all. Not number two, but number two is the Seattle Seahawks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Same division as the rams. Over under here. 44 and a half.

Kyle's note. Birds of a different feather don't flock together. He's not feeling good about his Falcons right now. Seattle's number one in point differential and points per game. Sam Darnold. It has not been good for fantasy the last four weeks. Against Arizona, the Rams, Tennessee and Minnesota.

[Mike Wright]

Should be better this week.

[Andy Holloway]

It should be better this week. We have seen the opportunities for Kenneth Walker increase as they should because Mike has a. He's just having a month. I get just.

[Mike Wright]

But he could do, you know those, those carries inside the five. Ken Walker could do that. He can do that just as well as Charbonnet.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think that's true. I do Sharpen has been really efficient in on those carries. Like he's actually been a very good. Like I don't blame them for. For doing something that's succeeding. You know what I mean? It's kind of like I want to be really upset that Tyler Algier in the same game is used like come on. Bijon can do that. But also dad Gummett. Tyler Algier is good too. It sucks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It should be a game that Seattle comes out and has a good performance for fantasy Jackson. Smith and Jigba should get right back on track. It is. It was very strange because he had been just so automatic and last week they kind of took him away. They still took care of business. We haven't seen Rasheed Shahid at all. I mean he's 4 for 37. You talk about Jacoby Myers.

[Mike Wright]

Very strange.

[Andy Holloway]

Jacoby Myers in Jacksonville has done a lot. Rashid Shahid has maybe a foot still on the plane is what it feels like. 4 for 37. And that's not like in one game. That's total since joining the team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he is like a half. Plays about half the snaps. He's just not getting targets.

[Andy Holloway]

So decision wise on this roster it's not that complicated. I feel comfortable with both running backs if I had to.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, this is.

[Jason Moore]

This seems like on the Seattle side you're saying both Walker and Charbonnet.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, just. Just gambling that you're going to get a touchdown from Charbs. Seems like it should be one of those weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know the Bijan performance last week, number one on the week. You'll love to see it because it had been a little bit up and.

[Jason Moore]

Down and they let him get a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

They let him. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

He's very nice.

[Andy Holloway]

He actually if he goes five or six games without one, he turns in a ticket and then they let him redeem it for one goal line opportunity and then Algier takes the rest of them. Yeah, but Drake London, if he's active, if he's back in this game, I assume you go right back to him.

[Mike Wright]

I would.

[Jason Moore]

It's a tough matchup. I look, I'm hoping they don't play him this week. Just give him one more week to rest and have him come back in a better matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Start of the week, Kyle Pitts. I know you guys reacted strongly but I think it'll be fine.

[Mike Wright]

Process wise it makes sense. What's hard about Kyle Pitts is the process is just. It doesn't matter to him. He doesn't care about our stats and when he's supposed to be good, he just is like, I'll be good, you know, once every six games or so. Yeah, Yeah. I tried to pick him up to playing this week because I don't have George Kittle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, it makes sense. And I'm not messing around with anybody else.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Like Darnell Mooney. He's not done it. Kirk Cousins is.

He's not. I mean, he's on the way out. I mean, it's quite clear the arm is not the same and that's changing a lot of the decisions. He's throwing 20 out of 24 passes under 10 yards. It's gross. So there you go.

[Mike Wright]

It's always a bummer to. Yeah, I mean, I decline happily.

[Andy Holloway]

Play Seattle's defense.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Cincinnati 4 and 8, Buffalo 8 and 4. This is a huge game.

[Mike Wright]

Palindrome game.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge game. I mean, we, we have buffalo five and a half point favorites. Over. Under is 53 and a half.

[Jason Moore]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

The line opened to 51 and a half, so it's gone up. I think maybe based on that news today, we'll get T. Higgins back. If you're limited on Wednesday, there's a decent chance you could be cleared by Friday. And so that would be big for the Bengals.

[Mike Wright]

It was, it was interesting news because, like, as of Tuesday, it still felt very, very negative that T. Higgins was not going to be able to. But limited on a Wednesday, that should bring you some optimism.

[Andy Holloway]

So what are your start sit challenges in this one, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know that there's really any challenges. That. Because the Bengals are always easy. It's everybody, you know, it doesn't matter about the matchup. And then the over on the Bills. Josh Allen and James Cook, of course, I like Dalton Kincaid this. I like Duncan Kincaid in general, but really, really like him this week, should he get back. And we just. The wide receivers still have not provided us any value, which is.

It still doesn't make sense that Josh Allen can do Josh Allen things without wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's been. I mean, this game is pretty important to Buffalo too, right? I mean, Cincinnati needs it for their best shot at. I mean, I think there's a legitimate chance Cincinnati makes the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

There is.

[Andy Holloway]

I really, really do. I mean, they have. If they get through Buffalo, they control their destiny at home against Baltimore. Right. You get to face your, your division mate. Then you play Miami and Arizona. Okay. Then you play Cleveland. So, like these next two weeks are going to determine everything, but if they win them both I think they're going.

[Mike Wright]

To make the playoffs and I think they're. Yeah, the division record is quite good. Let me go double check that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think they're 3 and 1.

[Andy Holloway]

In the best record.

[Jason Moore]

So they're, they're.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks. Joe Flacco, Mike Thomas. Not happy.

[Jason Moore]

I have, I've. I've seen some of the playoff estimators and the matchups, and it is realistic that the Bengals could make the playoffs. Even if they lose this game, they still could in a somewhat realistic way.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, Mike mentioned that Yoshi Voss was, you know, a backup option. If T. Higgins misses the game with a high over under like this. I don't mind you trying to get a piece of that. At 53 and a half, I would understand it.

[Jason Moore]

I was a little surprised to see that the over under went from 51 to 53 and a half.

[Andy Holloway]

There.

[Jason Moore]

There's. I mean, you could throw in snow, but there should be snow in this game. Very, very cold weather. 20 degrees. So, you know, I could see this turning into, you know, a James Cook fest slowdown game as well. So to me, Yoshi Voss, especially with Tinsley getting a bunch of targets last week, I'm not as excited. But obviously the game environment could end up becoming Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow. Who's going to. Whoever has the ball last wins the game because they just keep scoring. That's what the hope is.

[Andy Holloway]

And play Higgins, if he's active, I would for sure. Tennessee's 1 and 11. They take on the 3 and 9 Browns. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Who did Tennessee beat?

Yeah, yeah, I know the answer. Our Arizona Cardinals.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a reason I'm wearing a Diamondbacks hat today. The Tennessee Titans won in 11 with an implied point total in this game of 14 and a half.

The Browns are 4 and a half point favorites. The all runners, 33 and a half.

How low can you go?

Well, Tennessee is the number one pick right now. Cleveland the number five pick right now.

All right, this is not great. There's only been. Wait, the over under is 33 and a half?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Well, this is. So Cam Ward has looked better over the last month than he did the beginning of his career. But on the road with frigid temps against an unstoppable pass rush from the Cleveland Browns. I don't know how Tennessee can score. No, they're implied 14 and a half points. Like how. How are they getting 14?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm playing the Cleveland defense and I benched all my other players. That's all I'm playing.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys Said you had to set legal lineups yesterday. That's legal to me.

[Jason Moore]

Right. It's illegal to have a full lineup and add this defense.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean it's going to be good. Jason, your start of the week Quinch on Judkins should get on track here in this one. Shador Sanders is a winnable game but I'm not going to play you and I'm not going to play your wide outs. The only player I will consider on this team outside of Judkins is Fannin. I think Fannin is worth playing on pace for over 100 targets. Had the big touchdown from him last week. I think I'm comfortable with Fannin. I don't know if you guys are in the same way with the low.

[Mike Wright]

Over under but I am am uncomfortable with it but I would I understand it.

[Jason Moore]

Fannin is good. He's a rookie. That's what basically that's it. It's like hey a talented player at a position where you're. You're struggling for options. I'm okay with it but I'm not excited. I mean I obviously like Brenton Strange my start of the week I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Start over Fannin and this makes it really easy. Don't play any Titans. None.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't play any of them. Don't play running backs. Don't play tight ends. Don't play wide receivers. Don't play quarterbacks. Pretend the Titans are on by the.

[Jason Moore]

Only player that you could play would be Jim Ray DK if you are in a return yards league. That's it.

[Mike Wright]

Well yeah, I love that DK gave us the wide receiver 10 against Seattle and I was like okay.

We'Ve seen some flashes of life here. You know three top 16 performances in five games. His reward for those that had the courage negative points.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say if you want to say something about the Titans talk dynasty. Talk Gunner Helm. Chiga Conco will be gone. Gunner Helm has shown if you watch the tape looks pretty good to me. Has had four six and six reception since the buy takes time for Titans to get going dynasty leagues he's worth rostering. The commanders are 3 and 9. The Vikings 4 and 8 people are.

[Mike Wright]

Going to go to that game.

[Andy Holloway]

That other one the Browns one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Thousands people are going to spend tens of thousands money and their time I.

[Andy Holloway]

Just have they're going to go to that. I've got two words for them. Hot toddies.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Hot toddies.

[Andy Holloway]

Hot toddy.

[Jason Moore]

Hot toddy.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's on a lot of them.

[Jason Moore]

Do you think they they Just serve those at every hot dog stand.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Doubles.

[Jason Moore]

Just a hot toddy machine.

[Mike Wright]

It's going to be freezing and this is just.

[Jason Moore]

It's.

[Mike Wright]

It's mean. It's downright mean. It's not okay that the NFL is allowing this to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

At least this is close to our. Somebody called it the dung bowl. This is close to the battle, like in bad weather between the two worst teams. Like, this is a fair punishment.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This. Why isn't it snowing heavily in this one? This is where the snow should go.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Move the snow to the worst teams. But I don't want to talk about this one anymore.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

The commanders are three and nine, the Vikings four and eight. Minnesota two and a half point favorites. The over unders 42 and a half. I.

Guess it's part of our job to be hyperbolic and overstate things and say something entertaining. I don't know how untrue this is. This might be your career, jj.

In a real way. This game, this game and the following couple games, but this one in particular, if you're at home against Washington, you want to be. This is the game that decides if you're a career backup or not. I really think so.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he couldn't ask for a better get right game.

[Mike Wright]

Well, next week is Dallas. Well, sure, I mean Dallas, I mean this combo here.

[Jason Moore]

But the. For the offense to be able to get moving right now, the commanders, I mean, they. Their defense has not shown up this season and I don't even blame it on the Jaden Daniels injury and the offense putting them in bad situations. Mariota's looked good. Mariota has performed well. And I don't think that the team isn't giving effort. I don't. I don't know what it is because I feel like their defense was better last year, but on. On the course of the season, they're 28th against quarterbacks, 30th against running backs, 22nd against wide receivers, 28th against tight ends. They are not a tough matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

So this is what I mean, man. You got to have a game that shows a flash.

[Jason Moore]

You're in a dome. You've got an easy defense. Do something. Do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Throw the ball. Justin Jefferson.

[Mike Wright]

The Shia LaBeouf.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Do it. Throw the ball to Jefferson. Throw the ball to Addison Hawkinson.

[Mike Wright]

Don't throw to him.

[Andy Holloway]

He's actually been. Yeah, he's actually been like 6 for 59 last week. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

He had a just deep reception, 29 yard catch. It was pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

So all the Jefferson questions Like, if you can't. If you can't play Jefferson in this game, you will never need. There's never a time to play him again. That's the real truth. If you can't play him against the 31st ranked Washington wide receiver defense at home with JJ because they're not getting. There's no Calvary, there's no other quarterbacks showing up. Yeah, this is like, yes, you play J.J. to me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's my new start of the week. Jefferson. Yes. Justin Jefferson.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fine. Yeah, I allow the pivot. People need it.

[Jason Moore]

Justin Jefferson absolutely should be starting. So, like Justin Jefferson and Michael Wilson, the guy I said I would be starting, Justin Jefferson, I know he's only scoring like eight fantasy points a game in his starts with nine, but this, this is. This is a good matchup. Justin Jefferson's probably the best wide receiver in the National Football League. It will be a get right situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I just. Man, man, he is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Oh, he's got 10 interceptions, not nine. I thought nine was maybe an interception nickname for McCarthy, Brosmer, because you're the backup, play your running backs. If whoever's starting in Minnesota, are you okay with that or not really.

[Mike Wright]

You should be. Like, if Aaron Jones was limited on Wednesday.

It makes sense to play them. But I would be terrified if both are active. Like, if Aaron Jones are active. If Aaron Jones doesn't play, then you're like, okay, I get it. I could, I can jam Jordan Mason in there at a flex spot.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys might disagree with me on this, but I am completely comfortable with Terry McLaurin in this game. I look at Marcus Mariota as kind of like Brissette Light right now, where the production is going to be there. I mean, I think he's been over 210 passing yards in every one of his starts.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Or close to it. I mean, I have no problem with him in this game. And they may have some short fields.

[Jason Moore]

He's been very, very good. And I would, I want to say against the Vikings defense, I mean, we. We saw them just shut down JSN completely for the first time all season, so it scares me a little bit. But what we saw last week was against the tough Denver defense, so he's okay to me.

[Andy Holloway]

You would start Chris Rodriguez if you were. If you had to start a commander running back?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That is one area of the Vikings. 20th in the last six weeks.

[Jason Moore]

You guys remember Bill?

Man, I was running out of those Bill Crosky jokes. And he did me a solid. He's like, I got you. You're not going to need those anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

Should take that drop and slow it down and twist it up and make a sad version. It's just a bill. Yeah, it's not good. Debo, Is he a flex play?

[Mike Wright]

I would prefer not.

[Jason Moore]

He seemed pretty banged up during that last game. I don't. I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been top 36 three straight weeks with Mariota.

[Jason Moore]

I would.

[Mike Wright]

The defense freaks me out.

[Jason Moore]

Prefer to play McLaurin and not deep.

[Andy Holloway]

Zach Ertz or Kyle Pitts? Zach ERTZ Last week, 13 targets, 10 catches.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, ERTZ is way better than Kyle Pitts.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we'll take a break. We'll get into some more matchups.

[Mike Wright]

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But see what I mean? Like, this week is weird where it's like you have your guys, like, I would never bench them no matter what. And everyone else, you're like, oh, everyone. Everyone's just red flags everywhere.

[Andy Holloway]

I was just thinking about the fact that what year is this for Kyle Pitts?

[Jason Moore]

Four.

[Mike Wright]

Is it four or five?

[Andy Holloway]

I think year four. Imagine when he was drafted. If I told you, I go, hey, you're fine. Hey. By the way, in four years from now, you're going to still think Zach Ertz is better than him. That sentence wouldn't have been real. Miami's 5 and 7 still fighting New York. The jets, they still have a franchise. Three and nine at home. Miami favored by two and a half over under 40. One and a half. Here's more weird for you, Mike. We get, we get these 33, 40, 41. Yeah. Miami's won four or five guys. Four or five.

[Mike Wright]

Impressive.

[Andy Holloway]

And they had lost like a bunch of one score games. It could have beat the Chargers. Right. They had a bunch of close games. They're really. It's a credit to their head coach.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

In my opinion.

[Mike Wright]

No, when, when things are bad, you know, we dunk on people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They're not playing.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, give him the accolades if he's performing.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. And the alternative is John Gannon. The jets will start to Rod Taylor again. Breece hall.

[Mike Wright]

Referred to himself as a decoy.

[Andy Holloway]

He referred to himself as a decoy last week because the plan was to throw the ball a lot. Just call me decoy.

But you could.

[Mike Wright]

Throw the ball to Breeze. I don't the. The transition of what this team was at the beginning of the year when they were, you know, they had the compliment they had. It was Breeze Hall. It's Braylon Allen. Braylon Allen's the hammer. Breeze is still getting work on the ground, but they're throwing to him a ton. Four targets. 3, 6, 6, 5. And then Braylon Allen gets hurt. And like, no, we don't throw to Breeze hall anymore. It's so bizarre.

[Andy Holloway]

It just hasn't Been like the Justin Fields. Like we hadn't seen Justin Fields or to Rod Taylor really with Breeze Law and it just hasn't happened. They've been trying to really use Adonai Mitchell and John Metchie and some of these, you know, Mason Taylor.

I don't get excited about playing a Jet right now, but I do think there's opportunity.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And.

Are we. Are you ping ponging? Like are you going. You know, two weeks ago it was Mechi last week AD and I was the one who came through. They're being asked about adnai. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm staying with ADNAI because I want. I want touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you want the deep shot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they're going to take shots.

[Mike Wright]

You know, 39% target share.

[Jason Moore]

Mechie is saying I think his floor is maybe higher because easier connections. But Adnai Mitchell, he'll get some deep shots a la an Alec Pierce where you just connect on one of those and your fantasy day is way better.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. 100 yards last week. You're not going to get that with mechi. 6, 7, 12 targets.

[Mike Wright]

Kyle wants everyone to know that Meowson Taylor still hasn't forced a missed tackle.

[Andy Holloway]

He tracks it very closely.

[Mike Wright]

I mean it. How have you not forced the missed tackle yet?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you do. Meow.

[Andy Holloway]

That's on 39 catches. 39 catches make something happen. I don't know, man. I don't know. Kyle, find us. Let me know if other tight ends are in the same boat or if he really is standing alone.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that would be real fun.

[Andy Holloway]

I would like to know. That's your job for the rest of the show. Al's busy making lightning effect and your job is to figure out if Meows and Taylor is alone, Kitty cat or not. On the other side, Devon Achan is a machine. I brought up Ali Gordon is a backup option because the matchup is so good. I do think they'll give him work. He is a great compliment. He had nine carries two weeks ago. He only had three this past week. It was a tighter game. Like if the. If they have a real back and forth affair, maybe he'll get out there. Jalen Waddle. I've been a little bummed out.

[Mike Wright]

He is worth a discussion because the target share is there. But this is turned. The team has transformed like the McDaniel to a Tyreek. Everything is high flying. That doesn't seem to be the path forward anymore. So while Jalen Waddle is alone and consuming most of the pie, the pie has really shrunk and then he hasn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Made the most of his opportunities. Whether that's to his fault or not. He had three great weeks kind of post Tyreek injury, but his catch rate the last two weeks, 43 and 50%.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's been disappointing. I'm still going to be starting Waddle every week. This matchup is not a great one for him. The jets, while their defense is not great, you run on the jets. They're top five against wide receivers when you adjust for the schedule. So Waddle is in a slightly tough situation here, but the 33% target share, that's what I am targeting, is I want guys who are getting the ball thrown their way.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's go directly to our kitty cat reporter, Kyle. Kyle, what do you. What is the report on Mason Taylor's breaking tackle situation? Meow.

So the report is he is alone above 20 receptions with no forced missed tackles.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that your way of telling me Zach Ertz has broken a tackle? Yes. Oh, my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Yeah, they said it couldn't be done.

[Andy Holloway]

So this is not a. This is not a bit. This is accurate analysis.

[Jason Moore]

Bits are accurate.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, those are the best bits.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

So all other tight ends who have not forced a missed tackle have fewer than 20 receptions and he's at 30. He's at nearly 40.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe he's just not into that.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I know he's not.

[Andy Holloway]

Darren Waller is the play of the day for me at the. In this entire game, he's the most exciting for me because this is a position of great need and fantasy. He was out there running routes in his first game back and I, you know, you're going to get more acclimated. The matchup on the year, it's good against the jets, not in recent weeks, but I don't care. I'm going to play Darren Waller.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[Andy Holloway]

The New Orleans Saints. Let's just keep talking about teams that the Patriots have beaten. All right. The saints are 2 and 10. I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Dunk on the Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

The number one team in the afc.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know, dude. I vacillate between my love of Drake May and Mike Vrabel and my hatred of the dynastic success of the Patriots for so many years where I'm like, let somebody else have something.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And now they're back atop the Division I. I don't care, man. The Saints are doing. The Buccaneers are 7 and 5, Tampa Bay 8 and a half point favorites. They need this one. The over under is 42 and a half. This is the largest spread of week 14. Eight and a half points. Tampa Bay beat them 23 to three in week eight.

Tyler Chuck has been playing well. I think it is a has. It will be a really bad situation though for them if Chris Olave misses this game. He is so much of a go to guy, win needed. Mind you, he did cost him the entire game last week but also they.

[Mike Wright]

Wouldn'T have been there without him but he switched it.

[Andy Holloway]

He's had 10 plus fantasy points in six or seven weeks. If he, if he's active. Are you right back to him? Yeah, he can make it through the back injury.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he was my start of the week prior to the injury. I like the matchup. I like what I've been seeing with shuck. He has been much, much better and the matchup is pretty good. I mean they're going to have to throw the ball now if, if Olave doesn't play Vale.

[Mike Wright]

I think even if Olave plays Vale is at least interesting of. We really have, you know, I think we have what, four games of shuck. We have three games of actual full time Devon Vale for the New Orleans Saints. It wasn't, it was the week before the buy that he jumped from being like a mid 20% of the snaps type of a play, 30% all the way up to 87. And that's where he has, he has stayed. He is a full time player. And now back to back weeks, seven targets against Atlanta didn't turn into production but we at least saw some, you know, signs of life. And then he caught all eight of his targets against Miami.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's have a little fun with Tyler Schuck for the people out there. We haven't got to talk about him much this year. He's got his opportunity. I want you to guess some numbers for me. Just looking at his last three games. If you projected over a season, first of all, blowing away the Caleb Williams completion percentage. Do you know where he's at?

[Jason Moore]

I think he's. I was going to say about 70.

[Andy Holloway]

69%, 69%. He's on pace for again three game sample. 4300 yards, 23 touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we're cutting out 11 picks. Cutting out his first start.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think it's fine. I think that's, that's appropriate to cut out the first start.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Mind you it was against Tampa, which he plays this week. But yeah, I mean you need, you've never taken a snap in the NFL. I Think you look at where you're trending and I'm just throwing it out there. He's on pace for a solid season, a starter worthy season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Certainly a better season than Cam Ward statistically.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Cam Ward I think is on Pace for 10 touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Shoes.

[Jason Moore]

Which.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you serious?

[Jason Moore]

The lowest ever or something?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean. Yeah, the. Is that true? Well, he has seven right now and he's playing every week so that the math checks out also. Same amount of interceptions.

[Jason Moore]

On Pace for 10 passing touchdowns. Fewest passing touchdowns for a quarterback to start all 17 games would be Trevor Lawrence who got to 12.

[Andy Holloway]

And I don't. I just don't know how to feel about the Cam Ward situation overall because if you told me that you feeling better, if you told me that you get Olave and Joanne Johnson and Bailey and Camara for your team or you get Chimray, DK and IO Manor as your starters with a Ridley and he.

[Jason Moore]

Had Ridley for, you know, the first half of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Ridley missed quite a bit of time.

[Mike Wright]

And he just wasn't good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't. I mean you're. It a lot falls at his feet. I'm just saying he.

Yeah, it is what it is. Tampa Bay, they should be able to handle business. Bucky Irving, it was great to see. They went right to him. There was no limiting of the touches. 19 running back touches, five for white, two for Tucker. Emeka Buca. Is he. Is he a must start anymore? Who? Jason Emeka? Egbeg Boo.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he is a must start guy every week.

[Andy Holloway]

He could be.

[Mike Wright]

Let's play the name game. Brian Thomas Jr. Or a Mecca Buca.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man, that was dirty.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm playing a Buka in that situation. I don't think that you're going to see Evans or McMillan this week.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

In which case I'm going to take the targets.

[Mike Wright]

Abuka or Terry?

[Jason Moore]

Andy.

Well, Andy said he was the Terry guy I knew.

[Andy Holloway]

Abuka. All right.

[Mike Wright]

Abuka or.

Devonte Smith against the Chargers?

[Jason Moore]

Jason Devonte Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Yeah. I mean this, it does feel like kind of we need a game.

[Jason Moore]

I mean we have seven. His last seven games he's had one where he scored 10 points. He's had one where he scored eight points. Like it.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's on pace for 153 targets in that stretch. It's really confusing.

[Jason Moore]

It is confusing. It's.

[Andy Holloway]

And he had the hamstring injury and everything has happened since the hamstring injury. So I just get a little like, are we fools?

[Jason Moore]

We're not. Look, here's the truth. Igbuka is awesome. Yes, he is a great wide receiver. He is an unbelievable route runner, has great hands. He's in a very.

[Andy Holloway]

He has 191 receiving yards already. Yeah, but it's a tough run. But that's where I'm going. I'm okay. I'm okay with it. I'm a little nervous, but I'm okay with it. You talked about Devin, Neal, Mike at running back on the other side. I forgot to mention him on the way down.

[Mike Wright]

The opportunities will be there.

[Andy Holloway]

Joanne Johnson. It's a dart throw at tight end and one that I'll probably take with another player. This week that was Fantasy Forecast presented by Prize Picks. Join millions of users and sign up for America's number one fantasy sports app. Use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups when you play. $5. All right, more matchups tomorrow. And the fantasy face off the wheel of shame.

Yeah, that's me. Two tiebreakers. Two tiebreakers.

[Mike Wright]

You had your chances.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I did. And I think I'll let Mike in the show with his favorite drop of the day as we get ready for Thursday Night football. But we will catch you on tomorrow's episode. Don't forget jointhefoot.com for the ultimate dashboard. Get ready for the week, the advanced start sit tool and more. Go ahead, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Isaac, don't let us down.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't let Mike down.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Goodbye everybody.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.

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