Starts of the Week + Week 15 Breakdown, Clown Ghidorah! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/12

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Starts of the Week + Week 15 Breakdown, Clown Ghidorah!
Release Date: December 12, 2024

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Introduction to Week 15

The Fantasy Footballers kick off Week 15 with enthusiasm, celebrating the playoff momentum and gearing up for strategic lineup decisions. Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve into the latest fantasy football insights, ensuring listeners are equipped to make informed choices.

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News and Notes from Around the League

The hosts discuss significant NFL news affecting fantasy decisions:

• Isaac Garindo's Availability: Garindo is listed as questionable due to a foot injury. Andy notes, “The fact that he played football a couple of days ago and is going to be active in this game means that I don't think he's got a massive injury now” (11:00).

• Giants Coaching Changes: Rumors suggest Cam Ward may become the new head coach for the Giants, a move that could reshape the team's dynamics (15:08).

• Bucky Irving's Condition: Mike highlights concerns about Irving's participation, stating, “Bucky is very concerned... he's very, very banged up” (16:28).

• Kenneth Walker's Status: There's optimism regarding Walker's return, with Jason mentioning, “The news and the quotes coming out on Kenneth Walker are more of a 'He'll be back'” (17:55).

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Starts of the Week

The hosts provide detailed recommendations for starting players across key positions:

Quarterbacks

• Kyler Murray vs. New England Patriots: Jason advocates for starting Murray despite recent struggles, saying, “I think that he is a fine top 12 play this week” (21:37).

• Justin Herbert vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike remains loyal to Herbert, emphasizing his consistent performance: “He's been a top 12 quarterback in each of his last four starts at home” (22:45).

• Tua Tagovailoa vs. Houston Texans: Andy praises Tua’s recent form and favorable matchup, noting, “Tua... is the number one in the NFL and EPA per pass attempt” (23:11).

Running Backs

• Rico Dowdle vs. Carolina Panthers: Jason supports Dowdle, emphasizing his consistent yardage: “He's averaging nearly 100 yards per game” (24:01).

• Rashad White vs. Los Angeles Chargers: Mike recommends White for his pass-catching abilities, stating, “White is the number one pick in the draft” (24:46).

• Tony Pollard vs. Cincinnati Bengals: Andy endorses Pollard due to the Buccaneers' weak run defense: “Pollard has been so good and so consistent” (25:07).

Wide Receivers

• Juwan Jennings vs. Los Angeles Rams: Jason highlights Jennings' efficiency and favorable matchup: “He's been over this line four straight games” (26:33).

• Darnell Mooney vs. Las Vegas Raiders: Mike favors Mooney for his separation and the Raiders’ pass defense: “This is a perfect situation for you to have the confidence in Mooney” (27:46).

• Jordan Addison vs. [Opponent]: Andy focuses on Addison’s explosive plays against a struggling defense: “Addison was able to get free” (28:26).

Tight Ends

• Pat Friar Muth vs. Philadelphia Eagles: Jason recommends Muth due to increased involvement: “The Eagles are 29th in schedule adjusted points to the tight end” (29:35).

• Adam Hawkinson vs. Chicago Bears: Mike supports Hawkinson for his matchup against a poor tight end defense: “He is our consensus tight end” (30:23).

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Fantasy Forecast

The hosts break down key matchups anticipated to impact Week 15 fantasy performances:

Kansas City Chiefs vs. Cleveland Browns

• Chiefs’ Offensive Concerns: Andy expresses worry over the Chiefs’ passing game, noting, “You're not going to bench him [Kelsey]. He's got the ability to score a touchdown” (35:07).

• Cleveland's Defensive Struggles: Jason highlights James Winston’s potential, stating, “He has been top 12 of three of the last four starts” (37:01).

Washington Commanders vs. New Orleans Saints

• Running Back Usage: Jason recommends Brian Robinson and Chris Rodriguez Jr. due to their involvement and favorable matchups: “Chris Rodriguez Jr. is a potentially very sneaky touchdown threat” (44:19).

Baltimore Ravens vs. New York Giants

• Derek Henry’s Impact: Andy praises Henry’s performance potential, saying, “May you have Derek Henry and may you not face Derek Henry” (48:48).

• Giants’ Defensive Weakness: Mike advises leveraging the Giants’ poor run defense, stating, “If Derek Henry has any chance to catch Saquon Barkley to be the rushing leader” (51:06).

Cincinnati Bengals vs. Tennessee Titans

• Chase Brown’s Value: Mike emphasizes Brown’s role in the Bengals’ offense: “Chase Brown, the key cog of this Cincinnati offense” (71:55).

• Tight End Considerations: Jason suggests Devonte Adams for his increasing targets and reliable performance: “Devonte Adams... he's hit that in four of his last five” (71:55).

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Crown Awards

In the episode’s concluding segment, the hosts award crowns to standout fantasy performers from the previous week:

• Andy Holloway awards the crown to Jameson Williams for his exceptional performance against a high-scoring game (70:08).

• Jason Moore honors Devonte Adams for his consistent receiving yards and increased targets (71:55).

• Mike Wright recognizes Chase Brown for his pivotal role and substantial receiving yards (71:55).

Quotes from this segment include:

• Jason: “Give me Chase Brown, the key cog of this Cincinnati offense with 25 plus receiving yards against Tennessee. He's cleared that mark in five straight and he looks great in the passing game.” (71:55)

• Andy: “His targets have been great and I just think if they're going to be scoring back and forth three and a half. His targets the last four weeks, six, seven, seven, eight.” (70:17)

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Conclusion

The Fantasy Footballers wrap up Week 15 with strategic advice and player recommendations, ensuring listeners are well-prepared for their upcoming matchups. Emphasis is placed on leveraging favorable matchups, monitoring player health statuses, and making confident lineup decisions to navigate the fantasy playoffs successfully.

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Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright: “Don't dance with the devil on Sunday morning.” (04:02)

• Jason Moore: “This is the elimination of Patrick Taylor that we're having this conversation.” (11:47)

• Andy Holloway: “You need to win. Right. And you play to win.” (13:00)

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Timestamp Reference: (For brevity, only select timestamps are included. Full transcript was referenced for accuracy.)

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This summary captures the essence of the Fantasy Footballers' Week 15 episode, providing actionable insights and key takeaways for fantasy football enthusiasts.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

The Fantasy Footballer Studio is brought to you by Amazon Prime. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's playoff time.

[Mike Wright]

It's beautiful stuff, Mike. Beautiful. It's playoff time. It's Christmas time.

[Jason Moore]

We're having so much fun.

[Mike Wright]

We want gifts from one and all, mostly those in our starting lineups. Happy to be with you. Week 15 preview matchups today, starts of.

[Andy Holloway]

The week, and it's really here. This is like football. Tonight is for the playoffs. It's actually happening.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah, we're here.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on. Isaac Garindo.

[Mike Wright]

There's lots of. Lots of really big decisions to make. I think Jason spent a decent portion of yesterday analyzing and reanalyzing and reacting to new injuries and doing silent laps around the studio and, you know, saying things like, I don't even want to win because we don't Want to know what Al Borland would be like if he loses in a matchup where it's worse, Al, for you this week that you're so favored. Right. Like you.

[Andy Holloway]

You.

[Mike Wright]

I'm definitely stressing more than Jason is.

[Andy Holloway]

You can lose, Al. That's.

[Jason Moore]

Stop.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what we're saying is that you can't lose. And so I just want to congratulate you on your playoff victory.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we're doing it. We're doing it. Oh, boy. This is. Yeah. I mean, and Jason will say all that and then if he loses, he will be pissed. Oh, I know you will be very sad and upset. And I am just, you know, I got nothing to do this week, so I'll just watch your guys's matchup.

[Jason Moore]

We mentioned the third head of the hydra here, but just so people get a closer look into the league of record, I'm looking at our projections.

[Mike Wright]

There he is.

[Jason Moore]

There's Jason looking at the projections. And he's on the bye week. Yeah, but should he have been playing right now? His line is projected for 135.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Jason Moore]

The other bye week is projected at 122. This week they're not playing, but they are there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Then the. Then there's another playoff matchup. 131 to 133.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then there's Jason V. Owl.

[Andy Holloway]

What's Owl. What's our.

[Jason Moore]

He's at. He's projected at 130, so right in line with everybody else. And then there's the one. Oh, three.

[Andy Holloway]

103, baby. 103.

[Jason Moore]

Projections are not everything. But that is very funny to look at.

[Mike Wright]

That is King Ghidorah, by the way. That's the hydra. King Ghidorah.

[Jason Moore]

King Ghidorah.

[Mike Wright]

King Ghidorah from. First appeared. First appeared in 1964. Ghidorah, the three headed monster. That's who that is.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I was informed of this over a million times yesterday after we disgraced him by calling him a three headed hydra and all these other names.

[Jason Moore]

But it looks like a hydra.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know exactly what a hydra.

[Jason Moore]

Well, a hydra is from Greek.

[Mike Wright]

And isn't a hydra a snake though?

[Jason Moore]

No, hydra is the multi headed thing. And if you cut off a head, it grows two more.

[Mike Wright]

It's a nine headed serpent, though. A hydra in Greek mythology is nine.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's nine.

[Mike Wright]

There's nine heads.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I apologize.

[Mike Wright]

King Ghidorah's got three heads.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I stand corrected.

[Mike Wright]

And then one of them is One of them is. One of them is projected for 103.

[Andy Holloway]

One of them is, you know, starting Kendra Miller and Jaleel McLaughlin.

[Mike Wright]

So I will remember you. Okay. Thanks for joining us. It's going to be a long show. I'm going to tell you that right here at the top we don't have bye weeks. We got a lot of matchups to get into and news and just a lot of good stuff. And the parley parte Mike's on a hot streak.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, sir.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

No, I didn't, I didn't intentionally forget that Al. It was, it was so strategic. You don't know my ways of hosting. I like to wait until I hit the news drop.

[Jason Moore]

Well this is news.

[Andy Holloway]

Big news.

[Jason Moore]

This is NFL news.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. That's the entry to be able to take a look at opening the door. To be fair, like we aren't looking for an average, you know someone dabble in someone that's, you know, they've been doing it for a year that's got.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Yeah they're. But they're to be fair, not on camera talent. You know what I mean? They're off camera, they're building the apps. We have an awesome team. We got just so people know, we got 10 full time members here in the studios in Phoenix. The job is for here in Phoenix as well. So you need to be willing to relocate. And then we've got some, we have some full timers out of state in other positions but thefantasyfootballers.com careers to get all of the details on the front end developer position, we're adding another developer to the team. We're very committed to the UDK app, the in season app, which just released this year with all the join the foot tools and further developing those and making them best as possible for the team. And so we love, we'd love it if you know the show and you love fantasy football, but you also have skills that line up with this position. And as much as I respect all of the people that want to do the hustle thing and say, like, I don't have experience in this area, but you should want me, please don't make.

[Andy Holloway]

Us read your submission.

[Mike Wright]

We don't want you.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, we love you.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, listen, we don't actually want you.

[Andy Holloway]

The next time that we open up a job opening for a Deucer, all can apply. I mean, you can, you don't have to be able to read or write. You don't have to be able to control your bowels. Anyone can apply for Deucers Alley.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, there's an empty chair right now. We didn't want that.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, right now, that's just a dude.

[Mike Wright]

That didn't show up.

[Andy Holloway]

Right now. We are not hiring for a deucer. No, we're chock full. We're overflowing. We have too many, like dime a dozen. Half a person could do this job. But we are looking for an expert at really. You're really burying.

[Jason Moore]

You're flooding the zone right now and.

[Mike Wright]

You'Ll be paid way better than the Deucer. Yeah. This developer position, so, but so know.

[Jason Moore]

How to do those things. And step two, be cool, man.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, it'll be, it'll be a good time. This is, this is year 10. You know what I mean? Onward and upward. All right, I hit the news button because we're going to talk football news as well. Isaac Garando listed as questionable plans to play. That's via Adam Schefter.

[Andy Holloway]

There's going to be a lot of questions out there. I know Mike and I's team, it's like, well, so do you play him? Can you start him?

[Mike Wright]

I saw somebody say this one. Do you play Girando tonight or do you wait and make sure See if Bucky Irving's good for Sunday. My advice on that, I'd go. My position is Isaac Garindo tonight. Get the extra intel for your playoff weekend. Don't dance with the devil on Sunday morning. And Garando was awesome last week, and he said, like, you know, you want to put the pieces together here. You were never going to get good information on Garando's availability until now because it's a short week. But that is also a testimony to the fact that he's probably all right. It's a short week and he's available, and he said he's fine. And he said it was precautionary. And we've got sources telling us it's not one of the newcomers. Right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, we've been trying to do everything we can to have good intel. But Garendo, we don't have specifics on what the foot injury is, and I see that as a good thing. It's kind of like Andy just said, the fact that he played football a couple days ago and is going to be active in this game means that I don't think he's got a massive injury now. There is risk a re injury can happen that. That happens with feet. So this isn't like, you know, if you've got another great option, I would, you know, start them. But we're going to start Garrindo in our league, and we're going to make the choice of starting them in the flex over either Zay Flowers or Travis Kelsey, one of those two. He's above both of those as though he's also.

[Mike Wright]

This is the elimination of Patrick Taylor that we're having this conversation.

[Jason Moore]

Well, step one is everything we're reporting right now is expected to play. George Pickens was expected to play. They were going to warm him up and find out, and then he did not play. So don't just put him in your lineup right now and then check out for the rest of the day is step one. And it's also. I'm trying to find, like, the line of my rankings because it. It's hard to rank Garando right now because I. I don't know 100% that he's going to be active. And I don't want to blow up my rankings here of like, you know, this guy's going to play, he's going to be whatever. But it's like trying to find the line right now is the line. I think the line.

[Mike Wright]

Rico Dowdle. Is that the line at Carolina?

[Jason Moore]

That one's is James Cook. James Cook. James Cook was the name that I kept going down to. It's like Alvin Camara. It hasn't been great. And he has a backup quarterback. I'm still probably going to play him. Aaron Jones against Chicago, I think he's okay. And then Charbonnet, I'm presuming that Walker is going to be out, which. That's also. That's a tough call right now. And then it's James Cook against Detroit. And I think I would go. I would risk the upside for Garando over James Cook.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. That's because of the nature of some of the question marks. That's. I got him at 20 on the week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

I have him at 18.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So I think Garendo is very, very in play. You don't want to miss out on a matchup like this with a team that's favored at home because you're overthinking what ifs. I mean, you need to win. Right. And you play to win. And so, you know, if I. If I was the Guerrindo manager that spent all my fab on Patrick Taylor, I'm happy today.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not. I don't want a less talented player to get to start in San Francisco with some backups. I want the guy that performed last week, that caught the football, that got into the end zone. Let's. Let's go.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And if for some reason Garrindo is not able to go, he's inactive, he warms up and it, you know, it pops up again and they decide to sit him down. Reading some of the quotes from Shanahan and the beat reporters and everything that we can dig up, it is. It should be Patrick Taylor, not Izzy. They're getting Izzy up to speed, but I don't think he is going to be the guy like, you know, we possibly speculated.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And the. Yeah, exactly. So George Pickens did not practice on Wednesday.

[Jason Moore]

He's not going to play.

[Mike Wright]

Alexander Madison will probably be active. But Antonio Pierce said that not just sincere McCormick, like he sincerely was convicted, that sincere McCormick's a starting guy and that last week, Madison kind of could have been active. They said that it was just a numbers game. So it was a choice. And McCormick is a good play. It's Monday Night Football.

[Jason Moore]

It makes no sense at this point in the season where the Raiders are to not play sincere McCormick.

[Mike Wright]

And Pierce is also fighting for his opportunity to stay the head coach. I don't think he stays the head coach. No. I believe what happens is the Raiders will end up with Shador Sanders and they will hire a new coach. And I don't know, you know, I'M not going to say it's Dion, but it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that'd be fun.

[Mike Wright]

But Deion's going to want Sanders in Las Vegas and it's going to be a new head coach that probably deep that Dion likes on this side. And there was a report yesterday that the Giants. It's going to be Cam Ward. It's going to be Cam Ward and a new head coach for the Giants. So we'll see. We'll see how that pans out. But the Giants are a place that Deion does not want Shador Sanders to go, and that's where we're going to be. It's going to be a fun March.

[Jason Moore]

And April, the draft season with Sanders.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

With Travis Hunter and everything surrounding. Because Dion will like, if it sets up that it is like the Giants, it will be a full Eli Manning to the Chargers situation. We haven't had one for quite a while, but yeah, Elon, Dion's not going to take no crap. He's going to say, we're going to go exactly where we want our family and my son to go play. And where he wants to go play.

[Andy Holloway]

Dion's going to get what he wants.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he is.

[Mike Wright]

Bucky Irving, Mike Evans did not practice on Wednesday. This is not unexpected. This has kind of been a routine we need to really monitor. Irving Evans is the maintenance day. They've been doing this.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Bucky I am very concerned with. He's, you know, he's very, very banged up. Obviously only played a little bit of the last game and then got sat down.

[Mike Wright]

Let's, let's fast forward. Let's say he's active because I think.

[Andy Holloway]

He will be if he's active.

[Mike Wright]

That's where I want to get to. What are you doing?

[Andy Holloway]

He is a flex level start. To me, he's much scarier.

[Mike Wright]

It's the Chargers, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's not a great matchup. So, you know, if I had, I like, I would start Tyrone Tracy over him.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. So against Baltimore.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think, I mean, didn't. Didn't Tyrone Tracy have like a kajillion targets last week?

[Jason Moore]

Like, yeah, I mean, he's a, he's a good volume play. But the, I mean, like the line for the Giants, their implied team total is about five.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I know that. Yeah. I don't, I don't see a lot of touchdowns in the. Yeah, he had 10 targets last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'd go.

[Andy Holloway]

Bucky, 16 rushing attempts, 10 targets.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but they're changing quarterbacks. That's another piece of the news here. Drew Locke is out and they're going back to cutlets. Tommy Cutlets.

[Andy Holloway]

What could go right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, what could go right? Well, what's going right is they're going.

[Jason Moore]

To have the number secure the package.

[Mike Wright]

Probably the number one pick in the draft. Lad McConkie returned to a limited practice on Wednesday. Yay.

[Andy Holloway]

We love you.

[Mike Wright]

They need him. Oh, my little lady. Romeo Dobbs practicing in full. Still in the protocol. Kenneth Walker did not practice on Wednesday. The Kenneth Walker situation is so sketch, it hurts.

[Jason Moore]

The diving into it yesterday. The news and the quotes coming out on Kenneth Walker are more of a He'll be back. I think the quote was sooner than later. So it may not be this week, but this isn't Ken Bonas getting shut down. It's if he doesn't play this week, we should expect him back the next.

[Mike Wright]

Which is super cool news for all the teams eliminated without him this week.

[Jason Moore]

I know, it's unfortunate.

[Andy Holloway]

Super cool news for all the teams with Charbonnet.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Charbonnet will be.

[Mike Wright]

It's a glass half full of Charbonnet.

[Jason Moore]

Hey.

[Mike Wright]

Oh. Chris Olave, concussion, unlikely to return this week. All options are on the table as whether he returns this year. There is no upside to bringing him.

[Andy Holloway]

Back and having him play with either Spencer Rattler or Jake Heinous.

[Jason Moore]

If Heinous Heyner.

[Andy Holloway]

Isn't that the name we gave him yesterday?

[Jason Moore]

Kyle gave him Chris Olave.

[Mike Wright]

It's part of me that thought that you thought that that was his real name.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's sad.

[Jason Moore]

If Olave watches the game this weekend, I think his symptoms are going to flare up.

[Mike Wright]

Noah Brown out multiple weeks with the Commanders. That is a kidney injury he suffered.

[Jason Moore]

Could be season ending.

[Mike Wright]

Could be season ending. They signed K.J. osborne, who was just waived by the Patriots as a depth. Peace. We'll talk about that game today. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com insurance Let's take a break and then we will jump right in.

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[Andy Holloway]

Starts of the week.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Starts a week for week 15 and who wants to begin? Do we have any volunteers?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, hold on, hold on.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, boy.

[Andy Holloway]

Steel Underpants.

[Jason Moore]

Kyler Murray against the New England Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

You need Steel Underpants for this one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that almost makes the recommendation worse right there.

[Andy Holloway]

You.

[Jason Moore]

I'm saying you do because it's been so rough. Like, like Kyler Murray is been pushed. He has pushed fantasy players to the point that we now look at Kyler Murray as a fringe starting quarterback in a single quarterback league. And I am, I am here saying I think that he is a fine top 12 play this week. I'm not saying I'm playing him over everybody.

[Mike Wright]

If you didn't do it, I was going to do it. I mean, I think Kyler's a great sport.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, perfect.

[Mike Wright]

I'm playing Kyler over Baker Mayfield in our Dynasty playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

That's a perfect example.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, that's happening like it's unquestionable. At home.

[Jason Moore]

They're favored by six points off a bad week.

[Mike Wright]

He tends to respond.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's a plus matchup here. Over the last six weeks, the Patriots are 30th in schedule adjusted points. This is not on the season. This is a trend that is currently happening. The Patriots defense, they are just, they're giving up points to the quarterback position. So I think Kyler is a good play and it's, it's hard to say that right now.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sticking with Justin Herbert.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you were going to pivot.

[Mike Wright]

I am not. I'm not going to pivot. I have Herbert with lad McConkey on the way back. Tampa Bay 31st and schedule adjusted. We talked about it on the streamers part of Tuesday's show. He's been a top 12 quarterback in each of his last four starts at home. And getting Lad back is fundamental. They don't have the running game that they had earlier in the year and it's a, it's a Herbert world.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean targeting against Tampa Bay is usually a successful recipe for my start of the week. I'm going with Tua Tongue of Viola. I'm going with the quarterback. The quarterback. One in total fantasy points scored over the last month. He's been on fire. Four straight top ten performances. He's number one in the NFL and EPA per pass attempt. I mean, since he came back, the Dolphins are, you know, playing some really, really good offense. You can't run effectively on the Texans very easily, so I expect a lot of passing volume. They're in a dome. There's no weather constraints. And Tua, I mean if you've been playing him, you're, you know, he's helped you get to the playoffs. I think this matchup, you know, there's a lot of. This is the third highest over under on the week, so it's a game you could target. I think he's a good play this week.

[Jason Moore]

All right. At the running back position. I'm going with Rico Dowdle. That's what I was saying. I think Rico versus Grindo is tough. He gets the matchup against the Carolina Panthers. Unfortunately, we didn't get the Saquon magic that we had previously hoped for coming into this matchup against the Panthers. They are playing better. But I still think that the shift over to Rico being the full time guy since they said that he's averaging nearly 100 yards per game, 19 opportunities since week nine. He's just, he's been a top 12 running back since that time in week nine. The matchup is great. I'm not moving away from him. It's. I was the Rico guy, but it's wild to be here in the playoffs of like Rico's here. He's here to save your team starter.

[Andy Holloway]

Out of running backs in playoffs. And you don't even need steel underpants.

[Jason Moore]

No, I do not.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm so happy for you, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going with Rashad White on the other side of that Los Angeles Chargers game. He's been so consistent since Week 7. The RB10 averaging 15.7 fantasy points per game. And you know Bucky's banged up so.

[Jason Moore]

Is this a non flow chart? This is Rashad White no matter what.

[Mike Wright]

Certainly.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

This is, this is Mr. White at the Charger Stadium with a good game. And you know the Chargers, they're good rush defense. But that's not what makes White special. White is inefficient on the ground most of the time anyways. He's a pass catching running back and the Chargers have allowed the eighth most receptions to running backs. It's Rashad White.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I love Rashad White this week. He's. He's a must start. I can't see him finishing outside of the top 10. My start of the week at running back is Tony Pollard getting to face Cincinnati. He was given a day of rest. I presume he will be playing this week, thus the start of the week. But we'll monitor his health. But he's been even though the Titans are trending towards top five pick, he's been so good and so consistent. He has remains one of only three running backs to average 20 plus opportunities a game and three receptions per game. That's Tony Pollard, Alvin Camara and Bijon. That's the level of opportunities he's getting and he gets to face Cincinnati who was just torn up by your start of the week. Rico Dowdle on Monday Night Football. They are dead last and schedule Justin fantasy points over the last month, their 30th in EPA per rush attempt on the season, opponents are seeing 29 plus combined rush attempts per game. So Pollard has a just great wheels up matchup.

[Mike Wright]

I do want to say that today's practice report just please pay attention to it because Pollard did not practice yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's been doing.

[Mike Wright]

I know that at the end of the game we saw some Taj Spears. I'm sure he's fine just throwing it out there. You probably already said it.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receiver Juwan Justin Jefferson Jennings AKA Jennings Joan Jennings. Look, it's scary to have a Thursday night start of the week because it kicks things off. It's right in front of everybody's eyeballs. But this dude has been. He's getting these nicknames for a reason. This Guy needs absolute respect targeted on 27% of his routes this year. That is an unbelievable number. The only wide receivers with better yards per route run Puka Nico, A.J. brown. That's the end of list like Juwan Jennings is. He's just, he is a top tier wide receiver right now and you need to accept that. That's what's happening. Plus you get the matchup with the Rams last week it was absolute domination by the Buffalo Bills offense over the last six weeks. Rams are 30th against wide receivers. This was the team Jennings had the breakout campaign against in week three. 11 for 175 and three. He's a really, really strong start.

[Mike Wright]

I am doubling up. My wide receiver start of the week is once again Darnell Mooney, this time against Las Vegas on Monday night. It was a home run last week over 100 yards. Been playing great and you know he was 6 for 142. He had a great game. He's leading the team in yardage ahead of Drake London and he's just creating great separation. The Las Vegas matchup, you know this is a get right game for the Falcons who desperately need it and the Raiders have seen the second most pass plays called against them in the NFL. This is a perfect situation for you to have the confidence in Mooney over some of those other options you're not confident in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean you had him last week. It was scary to me with what we saw with Kirk and he was great for my wide receiver goal of last year's my guy, a guy we talked up a little bit on Monday's ready to roll because he was an absolute bust three weeks into the season. Jordan Addison, who since Week 4 has been a wide receiver one in fantasy averaging 13.8 fantasy points per game. The Chicago matchup on the course of the season looks pretty tough, but they are giving up big plays and doing it a lot more recently. They now rank dead last in explosive play rate of 15 yard plus plays allowed. Also we saw this matchup just a couple of weeks ago. In Week 12 against the Bears, Addison went off. He was 8 for 162 and 1. I think he might have been the wide receiver one that week. This is that matchup where you've got Jalen Johnson a great corner. You know where he's going to be focused. He's going to be focused on Justin Jefferson. That I think is why when we saw this matchup last time, Jordan Addison was able to get free. So Jordan Addison, I'm going to, I'm Going to stay in the flames that he's been on and for the tight.

[Jason Moore]

End position trying to find if you don't have a locked in starter a potential option here. I'm going with Pat Friar Muth. The Muth has been getting loose lately. Last week three for 48, six for 68 in the touchdown. Since week nine he's been averaging four for 40. So you're at least you should get something out of Friar Muth. And the fact that George Pickens is trending to be out me the past catching weapons for the Pittsburgh Steelers are. They are not scary to anybody and that's what I think where we've seen the Muth been getting more involved here over the last month. The Eagles are 29th and schedule just to points to the tight end. So the matchup is there and with Pickens out, I think that the Muth is a viable play.

[Mike Wright]

All right, I am going to give you the Hawkinson recommendation start of the week for week 15 against Chicago. You know Hawkinson was not part of the action last week. He had been on a red light, green light situation averaging 4.5 and 50 since returning. But it's not been. He hasn't gotten into the end zone and he's had trouble giving you consistency. So I want to give you that confidence boost this week against the Chicago defense that is pretty bad against the tight end position. He is our consensus tight end. 5. You've probably got other options like the Hawkinson managers have been, you know, they were waiting on him. They probably have a couple choices. I think it's going to be good for Hawkinson this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it could be. I'm going to go with a type of pick. Let's just say you're in the fantasy playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

You need underpants.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, sure. Just Steel.

[Jason Moore]

Just steal.

[Andy Holloway]

Just steal.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Gotta be handy with the steel.

[Andy Holloway]

Jay Steel underpants. Yeah. So if you're in the playoffs and I don't know like practice reports come up and they're like what? David Najoku's got a hamstring injury.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, why was that not in the news?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that should have definitely been in the news. David Najoku has popped up with a hamstring. My gosh, it is.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

Seemingly, I mean it's dicey. It is dicey. Whether he plays this week or not. I can't wait for the practice report today. Please be a limited participant. Please be out there. Don't be not practicing today. Please. But for those players like myself who might find themselves needing to grab someone to start off of the waivers, Zach Ertz would be probably the first name I'm looking for against New Orleans or coming off the buy. He's, he's a big part of this offense. Touchdowns at three straight games. His target share over the last month actually increased from 20% to 23%. They've, they've lost Noah Brown. The commanders are seven and a half point road favorites in New Orleans. It's a good matchup for tight ends. So like, if you're out there scouring for a start off the waivers, that's where I'm pointing his direction.

[Jason Moore]

I'm surprised.

[Mike Wright]

You could do a lot worse.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. Urch is a good play. I'm just, I'm surprised that Jason with the. Your hero ball mentality that you're not just like Jordan Akins, baby, we ride with Jameis.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, Jordan Akins could be a very good glory play. To be fair. Personally, I'm not picking up Zach Ertz to play just simply because my opponent who is a massive, he's got Jaden Daniels and I'm a massive underdog, so I can't catch up with Zach Ertz, but I do think he's got a high enough floor where most people on waivers have a floor of zero.

[Mike Wright]

There's a bunch of weird waiver wire tight ends hanging out there right now like the Calcaterras of the world. You saw Bellinger with seven targets. I'm not going there. But Juwan Johnson, you know, Isaiah likely on a lot of waiver wires. You never know what's going to happen there. There's some dart throws out there, but Ertz is a high target. Dart throw.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. He's the only one I know is going to have six targets.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I did like Calcaterra's 91% of snaps. And when you look at that game where he did score you and they only threw for what, 108 yards. Something stupid like there's a world where he becomes interesting as well. So. All right, into the forecast we go.

[Andy Holloway]

It's time for fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook.

[Mike Wright]

All right, no more bye weeks. We'll start with Kansas City. The 12 and 1 super talented. Best team ever. Historical superstars. The Chiefs taking on the three and ten. Cleveland Browns. The games in Cleveland, Kansas City, four point favorites. The over unders 44. It's just been a weird year. Like they're a good, they're a good team. They don't feel like a 12 and 1 team. They've won their last three games by 3, 2 and 2. Before that they lost and then won by 2. So their last four wins have been tight and they've also scored 16, 19 and 19 in three of those games.

[Jason Moore]

So gross.

[Mike Wright]

From an offensive perspective, what are you doing? I mean, what are you doing with like Kelsey's been disappointing for four straight games outside the top 12. You know, Hopkins and Juju and Worthy and like it just hasn't added up to big production for anybody.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think the passing game for the Chiefs is a little bit worrisome. You're pretty much dealing with flex level options. If you want to start Hopkins, that's, that's fine. He's usually good for that 10 point baseline. But I don't think you've got anyone here in the passing game that can explode for a monstrous game. Kelsey, super disappointing, but you're not going to bench him. He's. He's got the ability to score a touchdown. He's. He could have 10 targets at any game. The Cleveland Browns defense isn't particularly great against tight end. Really? From the tweet, it's weird that he.

[Mike Wright]

Makes you nervous now though. Like I have Zach Ertz. I'm not playing Ertz over Kelsey, but there's part of me that's like in the back of my head just like he's going to have a better game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The only, the only chief that I think is seemingly a good play is actually Isaiah Pacheco. He seems like he has gotten the role back. He had 18 opportunities last game. Cream hunt kind of evaporated. He wasn't great for fantasy by any means last week, but I think the transition, it was like, you know, the three week transition. First week he did very little. Last week it seemed like he took over and now I expect him to really get the lion's share, the role that he started the season with.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. On the other side, Cleveland, James Winston. We got the news yesterday that David Njoku is in jeopardy of missing this game. Hamstring injury against the Steelers. Did not practice. Had been averaging almost 10 targets a game with Jameis.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was nice.

[Mike Wright]

Consolidation of targets may go. I mean, Judy's obviously in his receiving line 70 yards, but Elijah Moore seems more relevant especially he's a short area target guy. Cedric Tillman, if he's back from the concussion, would be in play.

[Jason Moore]

He was limited on Wednesday with the amount of time he's missed. That's a, It's a trend in the right direction.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I heard some reporting that they they believe he's going to pass protocol. Cedric Tillman would be right back into my lineup. I think he's a good play this week. You can't really run on the Chiefs on the course of the season. Schedule adjusted, they are the number one. They give up the fewest points to running backs in fantasy football. So you're going to have James airing it out. Judy is obviously a lock in, but Tillman, I wouldn't be scared or hesitate.

[Mike Wright]

Mike, are you confident in Winston as a top 12 guy this week?

[Jason Moore]

Confident is. That's tough.

[Mike Wright]

I mean we need it right now. We need confidence.

[Jason Moore]

He's been top 12. Well, he's James Winston, man. There's only. There's only so far I could push the chips, but he has been top 12 of three of the last four starts. So I think, yes, I think that he is worth the risk in this matchup. And it's to me, it's the wide receivers. It would be fun if Jordan Akins can get involved but honestly, if Najoku is out the 10 targets, that's so much opportunity to spread between Judy Tillman and Elijah Moore. And Judy's DK line is at 70 and a half receiving yards right now. Like Judy is. Judy's locked in.

[Mike Wright]

Play Winston over Mahomes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I would definitely play Winston over.

[Mike Wright]

Mahomes 11% of the time. In his last 17 games, Patrick Mahomes has been a fantasy relevant quarterback. He is top 12 just once in the last month. Your upside is so much higher with Winston.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, for sure. Now I will say this. Since I made the decision to put in Winston over Baker, which I don't know. Would you play Winston over Baker?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Would it change your opinion to know that it looks like this game is going to have some rain, 15 mile an hour winds with gusts up to 25 miles an hour. I do not in Cleveland because Cleveland bad weather gets gross.

[Mike Wright]

I don't.

[Jason Moore]

It's amazing what you were able to do with your voice for that word.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I was trying to make Gross. Gross.

[Jason Moore]

It was like the weather.

[Mike Wright]

I don't care about the. Like I'm paying attention to the forecast obviously, but so much changes between now and Sunday. So you know, have a pivot option but you could be fine on Sunday in that game. They get it wrong a lot.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Currently not worried.

[Mike Wright]

Cincinnati is 5 and 8. The Titans are 3 and 10. Cincinnati is working on running the table to try to get themselves a spot in the playoffs where, you know, they could, they could do some work there Tennessee is 3 and 10.

[Andy Holloway]

So awesome. Wouldn't it like if. If Cincy actually made the playoffs with the bad start they had, wouldn't that be like.

[Mike Wright]

That'd be fine.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like everyone would be rooting for.

[Mike Wright]

It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. The best they could do is 9 and 8, but they have Tennessee, then they have Cleveland, then they have Denver at home and then they finish against a Pittsburgh team that could be sitting guys in week 18. That'll be a weird one because if Pittsburgh's spot is locked up, but they could keep a division made out of the playoffs. What do they do? Cincinnati has got it right in front of them. Tennessee is not likely to stand in their way. The over unders 46 Cincinnati 5 point road favorites and you know you have to for this game to be competitive. Will Levis has to play professional football.

[Jason Moore]

That's. That's bad to hear.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's just a tough, it's a tough ask of Will Levis. Now Ridley's line is 67 and a half yards. So you could play Ridley and you can acknowledge the fact that the Bengals defense, while improving, is not a very good one. Tony Pollard is Jason start of the week, assuming he's out there and healthy, which it seems like he will be, end of the list for Tennessee. Those two players.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not putting Nick Westbrook, Akini in there?

[Mike Wright]

I don't even know who that is.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah, okay.

[Mike Wright]

Does he play for them?

[Jason Moore]

He does. Someone once told me he's out there on every single snap.

[Mike Wright]

I don't remember the name.

[Jason Moore]

I see what happened guys. He was 100% of the snaps in week 13. Talk about Westbrook, Akiny. He was down to 94% against Jacksonville. That's what those 6% they cost him.

[Andy Holloway]

So would you play him or McLaughlin?

[Mike Wright]

Westbrook, Akin or McLaughlin?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Boy, this is a real counseling session for Mr. Moore today.

[Andy Holloway]

It's tough in the streets.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

There are people that might be eating like they could be listening to this on their lunch break. Jason, you said something like that.

[Mike Wright]

Shameful. He's been smoking a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Answer the question.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. It would be McLaughlin, Joe Burrow. Yes. Chase Brown, of course. Jamar. Chase forever and always. And then T. Higgins coming off his first dud game. Don't worry about it. Put him out there. That's easy. Cincinnati is really wonderful, wonderful on offense and to be honest, a lot of that has been unlocked due to Chase Brown being a viable, talented, every down running back. And we didn't have that at the beginning of the year they tried the Moss experiment but yeah, Chase Brown, he's awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been dominating and looking the part like it's not. It's not just opportunity. He's. He is so fast and capable. It's been a breath of fresh air.

[Mike Wright]

The Washington Commanders at 8 and 5 take on the New Orleans Saints who are 5 and 8. We don't even know if it's Spencer Rattler or Jake Heinous.

[Andy Holloway]

They don't even know.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man.

[Mike Wright]

The draft Kings.

[Jason Moore]

The advantage.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think it's an advantage. I think they literally haven't made a decision. No.

[Mike Wright]

They're splitting reps. DraftKings has the Washington Commanders seven and a half point favorites. The over unders 43 and a half. That gives New Orleans just 18 points.

[Jason Moore]

That's kind.

[Mike Wright]

The Commanders should. The Commanders should do real work in this game almost to the point where because defensively I think it's going to be so easy on them that I do worry a little bit about the high end upside of the offensive pieces but it doesn't affect your start sit decisions.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Brian Robinson is awesome. Terry McLaurin is unsitable. Jaden Daniels, even if, you know, look to get a giant lead, you score touchdowns. He's going to be running the ball plenty and he's been great at throwing touchdowns. Rushing touchdowns. I think it's very easy on this side of the ball. You're going to start those studs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So that leads me to this question which there are people who need nasty boys out there. Let me find my little button. Brian Robinson. Did we say the line? His rushing lines at 74 and a half. That's fantastic. What do you do about Chris Rodriguez Jr.

[Mike Wright]

He's talented. He's a good player. He had 13 carries. He had 94 yards. He could be salting the game away.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. That's why I bring. Do we feel like he is.

[Mike Wright]

I think he's in the McLaughlin category.

[Jason Moore]

I think he is viable as well.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I think Chris Rodriguez Jr. Is a potentially very sneaky touchdown threat.

[Jason Moore]

Like it can be dangerous to.

[Mike Wright]

I mean would you have started Eckler in this game? Let me ask you that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So you know the production from Rodriguez was on a level where they want to manage the running back room.

[Jason Moore]

Projecting game script. Like projecting the game script out and then looking at oh well the run this running back could get in because they're the backup and the game could be out of hand. That it can be a dangerous line of Thinking. But I think in this particular matchup, especially where the Saints being just awful against running backs on the season, dead last. If you adjust for schedule, I think he's in play all right.

[Mike Wright]

And McLaurin, by the way, his consistency rating, which this is a world that you didn't ever expect, but he's an A. Unbelievable. He's at 70% of his games exceeding 10 and a half fantasy points. He has like a machine this year. And if you look at his chart on the website, the fantasy footballers.com, it is green all over the place. Wide receiver four. Last time he started. Wide receiver six. I mean, it's awesome. Congratulations, Terry.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's one of the better stories of this season is Terry McLaurin finally coming through. It's like DJ Moore last year where it's like, dude, we are so freaking sick of this player being a great talent, a really good wide receiver, and teams just destroying their career with their horrifically bad choices. And look, look what happened. Look what happened to Terry.

[Andy Holloway]

So good.

[Mike Wright]

Camara, of course you play him, but Kendra Miller, only 26% of snaps. You still need to keep your eyes on him. But I wouldn't be starting him personally.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If you can avoid so well, let me ask you this. Would you rather start Kendra Miller or Chris Rodriguez in the same game? Because you still have Jeremy McNichols who played about the same amount of snaps as Chris Rodriguez last week. He had fewer carries and I think Chris Rodriguez is the better player, but it's not a guarantee that, you know, it's not. All the work goes to Chris Rodriguez, whereas the backup to Camara is clearly Kendra Miller.

[Mike Wright]

Miller at 26% of snaps. Jamal Williams barely on the field, 7% of snaps. But they're not going to move the football. We've been here before with the backup quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

That's the issue.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So I would go Rodriguez in that one. And Juwan Johnson dart, throw it. Tight end will be a friend to the bad quarterback. But it's terrifying and I would rather play Zach Hertz.

[Andy Holloway]

His receiving yards line is 30, 32 and a half, so. And you don't expect a touchdown. So what are you saying? Like, you're going to get three points? No. Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Gentlemen, prepare for this one. Prepare for the madness that is the Baltimore Ravens at 8 and 5 taking on the New York Football Giants who are 2 and 11 and the Baltimore Ravens on the DK Sports book 16 point favorites. The over under 42 and a half which means the Ravens are projected for nearly 30 points in the Giants with 13.

[Andy Holloway]

May you have Derek Henry and may you not face Derek Henry. His DK rushing yardage line is 2020-½ yards for this game.

[Mike Wright]

I mean it is.

[Jason Moore]

We have the actual line. Jay, do you know what it is?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm looking at it now. It's a perfect line. This is what I would want the line set at you. It is very rare to see a triple digit line but he's at a 100.5 so it's like is he going to get 100 yards? I mean the answer is yes but.

[Mike Wright]

Like yeah, I mean he really should. We did just come off of disappointing Baltimore loss where Lamar he talked extensively about the fact that he needed to run the football more.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, mama, mama chose mama gave him business.

[Mike Wright]

Chewed him out. But you know how much work do you got to do here? I mean the Giants are going to start Tommy DeVito the Baltimore defense which shout out to the listener league out there. You let me sign them for a dollar.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh man.

[Mike Wright]

Losers for the playoff matchup. Thank you. And yeah, I mean this is the only. It's a six time in 32 years that you have a 16 point road favorite. There just aren't. There's no math equation to get a solution for the Giants right there. There's no solution. It doesn't matter what you do there's not a solution. It's not. Tyrone Tracy's not going to lead them to victory. Malik Neighbors can't do enough. DeVito. Good luck. So this is.

[Jason Moore]

Are you playing Malik?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, it wasn't good with DeVito's start. When was DeVito's? He's going to have 10 targets. Malik neighbors will have 10 targets. Now. What does that mean? Probably means 5 for 57 and no touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Malik or Calvin Ridley?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's a really.

[Mike Wright]

I'll take Ridley. Ridley's receiving line is higher.

[Jason Moore]

Malik or Marv?

[Mike Wright]

Take Marv at home against New England.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, that's an easy Marv for me.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

No, it's not. It would. It would probably get people to unfollow the show. If we talk about the Giants anymore.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

But Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry, they're in. Zay Flowers is in. Mark Andrews is in. And, you know, do your work early, Baltimore.

[Jason Moore]

If Derek Henry has any chance to catch Saquon Barkley to be the rushing leader this year, this is the game where he catches up.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, the Giants defense is 30th against the run over the last six weeks, and that's against other running backs not named Derek Henry. So, you know, I'd be a little bit. I'd be a little bit worried about counting on Zay Flowers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah, he is a. He's a tougher start.

[Mike Wright]

He is actually his last four games, wide receiver. 50, 31, 33 and 40. And this is a game where if Henry is the recipient of the first two touchdowns and there's a defensive play, Zay Flowers is not necessary.

[Jason Moore]

He will be deleted.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And you. You say, okay, Lamar is going to throw at least one touchdown, maybe two, but you've got other options. You know, Mark Andrews is the goal line touchdown machine. You could have it go to. To likely. Rashad Bateman is a full participant in practice. Flowers is dicey. We're having to decide in our double flex between Flowers and Travis Kelsey, and I don't know which one is worse, but I'm scared of both.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's a tough decision. Those two Flowers and Travis, are you favored?

[Jason Moore]

It's pretty heads up.

[Mike Wright]

I don't. Yeah, I feel like your odds of a lower game are probably a little bit higher with Flowers.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. I lean towards Kelsey right now.

[Mike Wright]

The Cowboys are 5 and 8. They take on the 3 and 10 Carolina Panthers who are doing the best job of almost winning.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but what's the line?

[Mike Wright]

Carolina minus three. Let's Go, Bryce. Let's sports book.

[Jason Moore]

Come on, baby.

[Andy Holloway]

Over.

[Mike Wright]

Under is 43. The books.

[Jason Moore]

Almost win.

[Andy Holloway]

He's favored.

[Jason Moore]

Come on, Bryce. Almost win.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the books. Like, the way the Panthers are playing football right now. This is the first time they have been favored since drafting Bryce Young.

[Andy Holloway]

That's awesome. How did you. Who did you pick in this matchup?

[Mike Wright]

I haven't made a decision yet.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I did not pick Price.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay. Yeah. Dallas on the road, though. Cooper Rush.

[Jason Moore]

Probably because of Rico Dowdle. I get it, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

No, unstoppable.

[Mike Wright]

You know, this one is a battle of two bad rush defenses. I love Chuba Hubbard. I mean, I think Chuba Hubbard is so set up. He's a. He's a great running back.

[Jason Moore]

So you like the guy who's really good, Got a huge contract extension, has been dominating all year, and has absolutely no one in the backfield to take touches.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, if he doesn't get. I mean, he had 30 opportunities last week. 31. Last week.

[Andy Holloway]

31. You're going to kill the man.

[Mike Wright]

That's. I mean, you paid. You paid him the Money to handle 31 opportunities. It's time to get it done. And it's very clearly Thielen in the passing game. Leggette has made mistakes. He also eats raccoons. He also eats raccoons.

[Andy Holloway]

He hunts them. He kills them. He skins them. He cooks them. He eats them.

[Mike Wright]

That's a quote.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a quote. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't know that you did that. I mean, I didn't know you could do that, but. Well, I mean, I guess I knew you could. You can eat anything.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, but.

[Mike Wright]

But I didn't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't know it was. I didn't know it was legal. You know what I mean? Like, we are there food.

[Mike Wright]

There's like animals. You can't eat.

[Jason Moore]

Trash panda. You know that.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, right. But, like, you can't just go out and kill any animal you want and skin and eat it.

[Jason Moore]

If they don't catch you, you can.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I feel like this was a revelation that Leggette revealed on the Amon Ross St. Brown and his Brother podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Equanimous.

[Jason Moore]

They were eq.

[Mike Wright]

I was actually just trying to remember. There's got to be a name for the podcast that isn't that probably.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think I've ever heard the name of their podcast.

[Mike Wright]

Is it like the St. Brown Town podcast?

[Andy Holloway]

It is the St. Brown podcast.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, see, Brown Town is probably not a good one, but Brown Town copyright.

[Jason Moore]

Lee get is I love that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

I do think that he is.

[Jason Moore]

I want him to play better, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He's in consideration for a flex, but Adam Thielen is the leading target. When I went back and watched all the Bryce snaps and Bryce looked good. He looked so much more in sync with Adam Thielen. There was. There was a lot of rookie mistakes from Leggette, including not catching the game winning touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Lamb was heavily involved last week. You're always wincing. The way he winces when he goes down on that shoulder, but should be fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's. It's one of those things where he's talked about practicing different ways to fall and get tackled and all that. And then when he has the ball in his hands, it all goes away. And he's like, watch this. He just is muscle memory from, you know, whatever. 25 years, however old he is of just dominating defenders and breaking tackles. He won't go down. Like, what I want him to do is catch the ball, go down, go get open, catch the ball good. Go play. You know, some Tyler Lockett football they gave him.

[Jason Moore]

He had a rush attempt and it was a jet sweep. Am I remembering that right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you are. What are they doing?

[Jason Moore]

What? I don't care how much I want to win the football game, I'm not running CD Lamb with a bum shoulder on a jet sweep. Nonsense.

[Mike Wright]

Wouldn't it be great if they just. They just run him straight out of bounds? Just like a straight line out of bounds to keep him safe. He doesn't turn it upfield. Yeah. I mean, Jake Ferguson, by the way, out snapped the schoon man, six targets last week. He's a. He's a risky play, but he's. He's in play.

[Andy Holloway]

CD Lamb is the wide receiver, five on the season. That is mind blowing.

[Jason Moore]

It doesn't feel like.

[Andy Holloway]

It does not feel like that. And I mean, that's just a testament to how great he is because he is fully injured and has no quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

It feels like that because he has only. He's only boomed one time, like. And mean, in the meantime, you have Jamar Chase, who. It's basically every game right now. But week one, or, I'm sorry, week eight against the 49ers. CD was 13 for 146 and two. But other than that, it's just been like good top 20 finishes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Just solid. A lot of targets.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Just stay healthy, CD all right.

[Mike Wright]

The New York jets, who are 3 and 10, take on the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are 3 and 10. The DraftKings sportsbook line is New York minus 3. The over under is 40 and a half here. That's not a lot. And so where's the fantasy value in this game? I mean Adams was heavily involved last week. He feels really, he feels really safe in this game.

[Jason Moore]

This game is like Gary and Garrett and Devonte are in Adam's reception lines at six and a half. That's pretty wild. And then Brian Thomas Jr. He's in for me. The matchup is fine.

[Mike Wright]

You're hungry for more guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And the, I mean he's been dominating the targets and dominating the offense. Mac Jones is doing the probably the correct thing for him of on this team of like save me elite wide receiver. And other than that though they're on the, on the Jacksonville side. I'm not messing around with the running backs like etn. ETN finally looked okay in that matchup last week. And then Bixby had 18 carries. So it's like I'm out on that. The harder decision, the only hard decision for me in this game, it's the jets running backs. Breeze was a did not practice on Wednesday, but Braylon Allen, Isaiah Davis, they split. Davis looked better on the field in my opinion. So where are you? How are you handling those two guys?

[Mike Wright]

That's a tough one.

[Andy Holloway]

I expect it to be near a 50, 50 split if breeze is out. And I think both are fine starts you have over the last six weeks. The Jaguars are 32nd in fantasy points given up to the running back. So I am actually fine playing either one. Not both together, but if both of those take a.

[Mike Wright]

They're a tier above the McLaughlin Flynn, Chris Rodriguez range.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would play Chris Rodriguez is I think near that range.

[Mike Wright]

Mike, do you agree?

[Jason Moore]

I'd play the jets guys over Rodriguez. Both of them.

[Mike Wright]

What other discussions are there for this game? The running back room and the Jacksonville side that has been almost intentionally deleted from our, our minds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's tough because there is some value there. You know, Mike brought it up. Tank Bigsby had 18 carries. Travis ETN looked okay and is usually involved in the passing game.

[Jason Moore]

They're not going to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean they're, they're low level options that can be started. I would, I would start them over. McLaughlin. McLaughlin could go out and be the starter or he could do nothing.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would start them over. McLaughlin. Well, I mean, fine, you did it. You beat me into accepting I have players that I would play the jags.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm starting McLaughlin right now.

[Jason Moore]

I know and it's disgusting. I know our Teams were like the exact same thing all year long, except people didn't score points against you.

[Mike Wright]

What he's saying is that you look like this dragon.

[Jason Moore]

What's the name again?

[Mike Wright]

A King Ghidorah.

[Andy Holloway]

Ghidorah, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

There he is back there's King Gadola.

[Jason Moore]

Can you just cut out the head and put it onto Jason?

[Mike Wright]

I feel like. I feel like when you put this picture up, it looks like that's me and the three of us. And to be clear, it's Jason.

[Jason Moore]

All right, pull it down. All right, enough of that game, please.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I see Jason. Just let go of Kareem Hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you know, it's tough. It's tough in the streets.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to lose by a lot. Miami is 6 and 7. Houston's 8 and 5. The DraftKings sportsbook line is Houston minus 3. The over under is 47. I think this is a fun game. Houston's coming off the buy, but I mean, who don't you start in this game? I mean, there's. There's so many options on both sides where, you know, two has been playing great. Achan and Mixon are in. Tyreek, Nico, Waddle, who's receiving lines at 57 and a half. Play them. Johnny Smith. You got to play him. He's a must play tight end. He's number one in total fantasy points since week seven. I was telling Jason the other day I thought I had my tight end spot fixed on my league of record team because I had the combo of Kate Otten, who was on fire, and Taysom Hill. So I gave Johnny Smith away. This was like four weeks ago. I really wish I had Johnny Smith back. So if things change quickly. But that's what won championships last year. Ingram, Najoku, they were key cogs. They weren't necessarily, you know, a star the entire year. It's a small window you need for them to perform. So the real question would be somebody like, you know, on the fringes here, like a Tank dell or even C.J. stroud. I don't know if people are making those decisions.

[Andy Holloway]

I wasn't listening to you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the waivers have ran and I've.

[Andy Holloway]

Got to see who my savior is.

[Mike Wright]

I knew for a fact Chris Rodriguez was going to slide into your pickups and he's now on your team there.

[Andy Holloway]

As is Keon Coleman, who was dropped yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Their player. Jason, I mentioned there are. There were guys on the waiver wire that I thought, how are you not picking them up? Chris Rodriguez is at the top of that list.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he got picked up. Now let me ask you this, McLaughlin.

[Mike Wright]

Oh boy.

[Jason Moore]

Stop it, stop it, stop it.

[Andy Holloway]

Talking about the number two. I could really use Breeze to be active.

[Jason Moore]

We're talking about the Texans here.

[Mike Wright]

All right, well maybe we're not. I mean take Dell was the name I brought up in CJ Stratum. Whether either one is interesting to you in a game that has the potential, you know, at home in Houston off the bi week with them favored with a high over under, it does seem like there's some opportunity there for somebody beyond Nico Collins to have a game.

[Jason Moore]

There should be. But we are heading into the 14th game of the season for the Houston Texans and we have been saying that for 13 weeks and they've hit the over four times.

[Andy Holloway]

The Texans games have hit the over four times and we are heading into, yeah, week 15.

[Jason Moore]

It's 100%. It could happen for Tank Dell or someone else on the Houston Texans. But at this point of the season, I am not willing to do it at all. It's Nico, Joe Mixon and Logger. I'm saying Stroud is out. Stroud's out for me. Give me Kyler.

[Mike Wright]

The Colts are 6 and 7. They're back off the by Anthony Richardson and company going to Denver Mile High. They're 8 and 5. Denver's four point favorites. The over under is 44. When we last saw Anthony Richardson, it was a lot of talk about, you know, the Detroit matchup where he really struggled. Then he gets to play New England. Had a good game, played the jets and had a good game. This is not a good matchup on the road against Denver. That's I think point one of this conversation. Denver in the fight for playoff seating as is Indianapolis trying to fight for their division. But I guess I get really nervous about Richardson in week one of the playoffs against the Denver defense that is number two against quarterbacks in the last six weeks. I would, you know, you just talked about a Stroud off the table. Would you go Richardson just because of the running prowess over Stroud even with the bad matchup?

[Andy Holloway]

I would, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh gosh, that's tough. The, I mean we did just see the shootout with James in Denver and actually over the last six games, the Denver secondary is allowing the most passing yards per game. It's not like they're not allowing, you know, huge fantasy points, but some yards are there and usually yards turn into to touchdown opportunities.

[Andy Holloway]

Stroud is rarely getting to 15 fantasy points.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would, I'd go Richardson over Stroud. It's but don't, don't look away.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Joe Mixon's team. So Anthony Richardson has the boom bust potential. Tough matchup. I'm not wanting to play him, but.

[Mike Wright]

And you certainly play Bo. Nick's over him. So. You know, we're at the point now with the running back room in Denver. One, it's the worst thing to talk about every week. Two, we're at the point now where head coach Sean Payton is talking about Marvin Mims in an active way about using him in the backfield because of how kind of inept and disjointed The Williams estimate McLaughlin mim situation is.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, the Mems in the backfield is not a huge thing that he, he was saying that, you know, he wishes he thought of it earlier because he's been doing it the last month. He's been giving Mems usually about three carries a week. So I don't, I don't think that factors in too much. The question here is just, you don't know who it's going to be. They will do a hot hand. We saw that the last game with McLaughlin when he had 14 carries and two targets.

[Mike Wright]

You want to hear something crazy about that game?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he was.

[Mike Wright]

That was his highest carry count on the year by far.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know how many snaps he played?

[Mike Wright]

I do 36% of snaps. So when he was on the field, they gave it to him, but there was no snap count number that was different. Like he. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And he still didn't score 10 fantasy points.

[Mike Wright]

He didn't. No. 8.9.

[Andy Holloway]

So I mean, this is not, you know, I don't want to play any Broncos running back. The matchup is good and if I had to order them, I would put McLaughlin because he was the last one we saw get the work. I would put him first. But I don't want to play any of them.

[Mike Wright]

It's weird because this is a situation where we like, like they have a 24 point implied total. They're favored. They're at home. We like Bo Nicks. And yet out of the discussion. There's only one player you play.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

It's Cortland Sutton. You just play Cortland Sutton. He's got a receiving line of 70 and a half and log out. And then on the other side, for goodness sakes, I mean, just get on your knees and pray.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. What is your, what's your confidence for Johnny Taylor?

[Mike Wright]

It's not that. I mean, he.

[Jason Moore]

Charbone Zone or Johnny Taylor with no.

[Mike Wright]

Ken Walker is Charbonne Zone.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would agree.

[Jason Moore]

James Cook against Detroit or Johnny Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

James Cook.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, probably James cook. I mean, 25 carries for Taylor last.

[Jason Moore]

Week, and James Cook was the Garendo line. So Isaac Garendo.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Garendo.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Garando as well.

[Mike Wright]

Here's where I would play Taylor over those guys, and it would be if I'm a heavy favorite, because I think the total workload for Taylor will be there. His efficiency might not, his touchdowns might not, but that's where I'd go.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's just a matter of whether he has the opportunity to get the touchdown or, you know, is he going to be vultured at the goal line? It's a very tough defense. We've seen him last week, 25 carries, had an awesome game, 17 fantasy points and half PPR a couple weeks before that, 24 carries, that's awesome. Six fantasy points. You know, if you're playing against a good defense, the floor isn't as high as you think. And the, you know, the passing work just isn't there. With Anthony Richardson.

[Mike Wright]

We did get an update from Mary Kay Cabot on X. David Najoku likely to sit.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, come on, man.

[Mike Wright]

Breece hall, zoom in on Jason here. Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just not fair. It's like every week I lose more guys. You want to know how I'm in this spot where I'm.

[Mike Wright]

No, I didn't. I just wanted the solo camp so people could see his face.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just weirdos. It's like whoever I have gets injured, but my defense has been great, so watch out.

[Mike Wright]

Jeremy, any confidence with any white out?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm curious about Josh Downs. He was a limited participant prior to the bye week. They said that they would expect his injury to make, that he wouldn't be playing this week, that he might miss the week following the bye week. But I mean, because they were on by, there was no new information if he's feeling good in practicing. I'm curious if he was active, what your confidence level would be? Because he's been very good whenever he's been on the field.

[Mike Wright]

I would have almost no confidence.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Coming off an injury against number two, Pasty, it would make me nervous.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's tough. Well, then let's say he's out. Pittman, are you starting him?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so he's like a wide receiver 4 ish.

[Mike Wright]

As in not the wide receiver 4.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

A.

[Mike Wright]

More like in the 40s.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Gotcha. Yeah. There you go. It's an uphill battle. All right. It's parlay parte time. Jason, hand out the crowns. You're very good at handing them out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Also.

[Jason Moore]

Did you just like, did you lower your chair?

[Mike Wright]

Did your chair go down? Jason?

[Jason Moore]

How did that happen?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, my foot hit it.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, let's get the crowns on. Mike, these are already pre fit for us from last week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's on size xxl.

[Mike Wright]

Look at the guy in the middle. Put up the king Ghidorah again.

[Andy Holloway]

There he is. There it is.

[Mike Wright]

Jason with the tongue hanging out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Do you want to kick us off, Jay, or do you want the real.

[Mike Wright]

Well, we should reflect, right? I mean.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Trey McBride, 60 plus receiving yards took.

[Jason Moore]

Him 14 targets to barely get there.

[Mike Wright]

He got there and then Mike, you had Mike Evans over 60 yards. He just barely snuck in there too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but my guy just when you talk about barely, didn't get there. He had two receptions. Aaron Jones was two and a half. He also caught a screen pass that was scored as a rush, as a down.

[Mike Wright]

I watched it. I watched it.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought I hit. I thought I hit. And so it was scored as a rushing attempt. He caught three balls but one did not count as a reception. I'll kick us off this week. I'm going to go not with a running back over. I'm going to go with Jameson Williams. His reception line is three and a half. He is in this crazy 54 point Buffalo Detroit Lions game that the expectation is monstrous amounts of points in this game. He's been over this line four straight games. I mean his target, his targets have been great and I just think if they're going to be scoring back and forth three and a half. His targets the last four weeks, six, seven, seven, eight. You know that that's a low line to me in a game with a 54 and a half point over under.

[Mike Wright]

Give me Chase Brown, the key cog of this Cincinnati offense with 25 plus receiving yards against Tennessee. He's cleared that mark in five straight and he looks great in the passing game. So Chase Brown, 25 plus lock it in.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going Devonte Adams against the Jacksonville Jaguars with 60 plus receiving yards. He's hit that in four of his last five. The targets have been increasing like it was. It was Garrett for a while when Adams first got there, but now the. It seems like the mojo is. It's, it's stirring, it's mixing back up for Rogers and Devonte Adams. So I'll take 60 yards.

[Mike Wright]

I like it. That was fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Pick Six Download the new DraftKings Pick Six app now and use the Code Ballers. That's the Code Ballers for new customers to play. $5 and get $50 in pick six credits. Jason, one more time. Can I get the King Ghidorah for us? Can we give, can we give the.

[Jason Moore]

People with the, with the wig? It's just. Oh, it's a special over the top.

[Mike Wright]

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