Starts of the Week + Week 4 Breakdown, Big Trade! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/25

Summary

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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Starts of the Week + Week 4 Breakdown, Big Trade!
Date: September 25, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

The Fantasy Footballers bring their usual mix of humor, banter, and deep fantasy football analysis as they roll into Week 4 of the NFL season. This jam-packed episode features a blockbuster trade in their League of Record, the much-awaited “Starts of the Week” segment, hot takes on roster decisions, in-depth matchup breakdowns, and actionable advice driven by the first three weeks of season data.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Marv for Flowers: Blockbuster Trade & League Banter

• Andy proposes and ultimately completes a trade:
  • Sent Zay Flowers and Justin Fields to Mike for Marvin Harrison Jr.
  • Results in Andy now stacking Kyler Murray and Marvin Jr. in his lineup, despite previous criticism of the Cardinals offense (04:09).
• Hosts poke fun at Andy’s optimism:
  • “If I booked a wedding venue…and it starts to rain, I’m going to pretend I like the rain.” – Andy (04:26)
  • Mike and Jason riff about how Andy now has to root for the Cards after repeatedly criticizing their fantasy value.
  • The trade adds drama as Andy and Jason face each other this week, with Marv's performance directly impacting both (05:52).

New Tools for the Foot Clan & Community Updates

• Rest of Season Rankings Launched:
  • First time ever, released today for trade evaluation and ROS planning (06:49).
  • Stream Finder & Strength of Schedule tools now “activated” with three weeks of data.
• Community Growth:
  • Continued push to jointhefoot.com for exclusive resources.

Around the League: News & Notes (08:11)

• Injuries and Practice Updates:
  • Charbonnet questionable (but expected to play), Devonte Adams hamstring cautioned but expected to go, Xavier Worthy back with a harness and limited snaps, DeAndre Swift and Cole Kmet limited, Purdy expected to start despite limited practice.
• Quick Analysis:
  • Worthy is a “wait and see”; Charbonnet will likely play; caution for older WRs like Adams with soft tissue injuries; Hunter Henry becomes more interesting given NE injuries.

Starts of the Week: High-Confidence Fantasy Plays

[Main segment begins 11:21]

Quarterback

• Andy: Jordan Love vs. Dallas – "The Cowboys' pass defense, we know how dookie they are." (13:07)
• Jason: Caleb Williams vs. Raiders – "Quarterback three on the season [fantasy]...His scrambling is legit." (15:03)
• Mike: Bo Nix vs. Cincinnati – "Not great so far, but all ranked in our top 10 this week due to matchup and rushing floor." (15:04)

Running Back

• Jason: J.K. Dobbins vs. Cincinnati – Doubling up with Denver offense; “While he's looking good, you gotta stay on this train.” (16:23)
• Andy: Amarian Hampton vs. Giants – “It was a matter of time...It’s Hampton’s backfield, and this matchup is golden.” (17:48)
• Mike: Chuba Hubbard vs. Patriots – "RB13 on the season, underappreciated volume, and the Patriots are giving up a lot of RB receiving work." (19:00)

Wide Receiver

• Jason: Jacoby Myers vs. Bears – "Only five WRs have had 60+ yards in all three games, and he’s one of them." (20:23)
• Andy: Matthew Golden vs. Dallas – “Official touchdown guarantee. He’s due, and Dallas’s secondary is toast.” (22:08)
• Mike: Davante Adams vs. Colts – "Utilization is otherworldly, and he’s on pace for 1,200+ yards again." (22:23)

Tight End

• Jason: T.J. Hockenson vs. Steelers – “Target share is top 6 among TEs, and narrative street (Vikings returning to ‘Scandinavia’).” (23:39)
• Andy: Hunter Henry vs. Carolina – “He leads NE in targets, air yards, and is seeing the most reliable work.” (24:55)
• Mike: Jake "Ferg Daddy" Ferguson vs. Giants – "More receptions than any tight end except Puka Nacua, and still under the radar." (26:12)

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Week 4 Matchups: Insights & Key Debates

Minnesota (2-1) vs. Pittsburgh (2-1) – International Game in Ireland (31:13)

• Temperature check: Justin Jefferson "quietly okay," but "my confidence in Justin is still sky high." – Jason (35:09)
• Metcalf or Marv Debate: Mike prefers Marv over DK Metcalf this week, given the elite Minnesota pass defense.
• Running Backs: Jalen Warren is a must-start; “utilization is wild” with increased targets by the week (32:41).

Commanders (2-1) @ Atlanta (1-2)

• Quarterbacks: If Jaden Daniels starts, he’s a go; Marcus Mariota is a streaming option if Daniels sits (37:42).
• Terry McLaurin Injured: Debo Samuel is the alternative WR to start if McLaurin is out (38:41).
• Drake London: Concerns about decreased ADOT, but this is a bounceback spot per Mike (40:33).

Saints (0-3) @ Bills (3-0)

• Bills likely to dominate: "Bills are going to smoke the Saints," Andy (41:31).
• Buffalo Start/Sit: Allen and Cook locked in; avoid flexing the WRs besides Diggs.
• Saints Start/Sit: Kamara is a must-start despite tough matchup/lousy Week 3; Olave is a "high-volume veggie play."
• Dalton Kincaid & Juwan Johnson: Both are fine TE starts if streaming (44:43).

Browns (1-2) @ Lions (2-1)

• Montgomery: Tempered expectations; flex territory due to Browns’ run defense (47:17).
• Judkins vs. Benson: Mike leans Judkins; Jason likes Benson for game script reasons (50:01).
• Cleveland WRs: “Not done with them, but not forcing them in either” – Mike (52:53).

Patriots (1-2) vs. Panthers (1-2)

• Running back split: Trayvon Henderson expected to see increased role, but Ramondre still trusted in pass-pro (57:32).
• Buy-low alert: Chuba Hubbard is a solid PPR play given depleted pass catcher corps in Carolina (59:52).
• Hunter Renfrow (“sneaky start” if McMillan out): Andy highlights this as a possible deep play (59:48).

Chargers (3-0) @ Giants (0-3)

• Giants QB news: Jackson Dart starting for New York; Andy’s “almost upset of the week” (63:15).
• Cam Skattebo: Startable, especially in full PPR; receiving work keeps his floor reasonably high.
• Chargers’ WR trio: All of Quentin Johnson, Keenan Allen, and Ladd McConkey are considered starts based on target share and productivity (67:33).

Buccaneers (3-0) vs. Eagles (3-0)

• Tampa Home Underdogs: Mike Evans’ injury makes for shakier output, but Chris Godwin practiced in full.
• Baker Mayfield "Dog" Segment:
  • “He loves football. He loves competing, he loves talking…he loves it so much it makes his pain stop hurting.” – Mike (72:56)
• QB streaming: Baker is a fine start at home, likely to avoid a meltdown game.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Andy stacking Kyler and Marv (The Cardinals):
  Andy (04:26): “If I booked a wedding venue and it starts to rain, I’m going to pretend I like the rain…”

• On Jordan Love’s matchup vs. Dallas:
  Andy (13:07): “The Cowboys’ pass defense…we know how dookie they are.”

• On Chuba Hubbard’s disrespect:
  Mike (19:15): “He is still disrespected by me in my mind and heart.”

• On Jacoby Myers’ steady production:
  Jason (20:23): “He’s their number one guy. Only five wide receivers have had 60+ yards in all three games, and he’s one of them.”

• On Amarian Hampton:
  Andy (17:48): "It's Hampton's backfield from here on out. The Giants run defense has been extremely exploitable."

• On Bucs’ “tush push” solution:
  Mike (68:59): "Desmond Watson, 450, 60,000 pounds...I don't know."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:40] Andy & Mike’s big Marvin Harrison trade
• [06:48] Announcement of new Rest of Season Rankings & tools
• [11:21] “Starts of the Week” begins
• [31:13] Minnesota-Pittsburgh (International Game) breakdown
• [41:01] Saints-Bills blowout expectations
• [47:09] Browns-Lions RB sit/start debate
• [53:04] Browns/WR outlook for Week 4
• [59:48] Hunter Renfrow sneaky start mention
• [63:15] Jackson Dart and possible Giants upset talk
• [68:40] Bucs vs. Eagles, “tush push” wrestling story

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The Original Tone

The episode maintains the trio’s signature blend of humor, fantasy analysis, and friendly trash talk. Playful shots at each others' teams and hot takes keep the energy high, but the statistical acumen and actionable advice never waver.

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Summary Takeaways

• Act on new data! We have three weeks to assess real trends—don’t be shy about moving on underperformers or capitalizing on buy-low options.
• Start your studs: Many familiar fantasy names provide safe floors, but the Footballers highlight sneaky upside starts like Jacoby Myers and Chuba Hubbard.
• Watch injuries and depth chart changes: WR/TE injuries present short-term “start” opportunities (e.g., Hunter Renfrow, Hunter Henry); stay tuned for last-minute lineup news.
• Consider the matchup context: Defense vulnerabilities (Dallas vs. pass, Giants vs. run) continue to be strong predictors for fantasy upside or letdown.
• Don’t overthink RB timeshares—the guys repeatedly advise patience and flexibility, especially with dynamic situations (NE, Carolina, Cleveland).

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Want more?

• Access new ROS rankings and more at jointhefoot.com
• Submit your own roster questions for the weekly “Start/Sit” segment.
• Tune in tomorrow for the continuation of matchup breakdowns and the lively “Fantasy Faceoff” challenge!

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Final tip from Andy:
"When torn, trust your gut and the context of your matchup—don’t blindly follow the dashboard over your own gut feeling!” (51:30)

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike]

The Fantasy Footballer studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and M. Right.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in. It's football time.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Good luck to you and Marv.

[Andy Holloway]

Thursday, September 25, the day of the Marvin Harrison Redemption Tour beginning tonight. Probably not. Actually, almost certain, almost certainly not. But we do have football tonight. Andy, Mike and Jason, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast back with you. Thank you for following the show, listening to the show, hanging out with us all year long. We are heading into week four. Cardinals at home tonight against the Sea Chickens.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, got him. Got him. You're not a hawk, you're a chicken.

[Andy Holloway]

I am. You know, I'm a really big Cardinal fan. You guys know this. I love the Cardinals.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And that's why you are all. Your fantasy team is all in.

[Andy Holloway]

So yeah, yesterday we, I briefly said I would. I was going to offer Zay flowers from Marvin Harrison on the show. I think I called Marvin Harrison a baby buy.

[Mike]

Yes, yes, you did.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he's not, he's not a full on go get him at any cost. I mean I saw a lot of people taking the trade advice show and going out there and making moves. I saw tons of players like Jinty Jacobs, those guys getting acquired. There was a surprising amount of Drake London for Ashton Jinty trades including from our own Kyle the Borgogan, who as a Falcons fan went out and traded Drake London and Got Ash and Genti. Interesting. Like, that seems to be like a compatible trade right now because they're both, you know, top 12 picks that are disappointing people. And, you know, you might need a running back, might need a wide receiver. So that's happening a lot. But I said on the show, I was. I just offered Mike. I offered him Marvin Harrison or. Sorry. I offered him Zay flowers for Marvin Harrison. And he thought a lot about it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, so much thinking.

[Andy Holloway]

And then he didn't do it. And then I offered him Justin Fields and Zay flowers from Arvin Harrison.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You know, I'm a sucker for Justin Fields.

[Andy Holloway]

And I got Marvin Harrison now, baby. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Hardy Lights.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a.

[Jason Moore]

He's really willing this into.

[Mike]

This is the best part about this, is you now in the league of record, have the Kyler Marv stat.

[Andy Holloway]

It couldn't be worse.

[Mike]

And no one has talked more crap about how bad they are, about how bad this offense is, about how Kyler doesn't have. It isn't good. And then. And now you are relying upon.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I. Can I make the. Make a little comparison of where I'm at right now?

[Mike]

Yes, please.

[Andy Holloway]

If I booked a wedding venue and I invited the guests and I had people fly in and I have every. I got the DJ on retainer and everything's booked and it starts to rain, I'm going to pretend I like the rain. I'm going to pretend everything's going to be just fine. I'm going to pretend it's going to be the best wedding of all time. That's the current mental state. Would I pass a drug test? Probably not. Yeah, but Marvin Harrison is on the roster. We don't need no meows.

[Mike]

We don't need no cats.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Look, Mike, you said it before the show. After last week's public embarrassment of Marvin Harrison, what better time to publicly embarrass him again?

[Jason Moore]

Arizona better go to him early and easy, Right?

[Mike]

Yeah. First play, little screen, little slant, something easy. Make sure he catches it.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike]

Let's get. Get the ball moving now.

[Jason Moore]

If he drops that pass.

[Mike]

Oh, then it's just.

[Jason Moore]

It's over. He might as well head to the locker room.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys saw the screenshot. That appears he's looking upwards while he's catching the football.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Is he watching himself on the jumbotron try to catch a football?

[Jason Moore]

He's like, yeah, look how cool this is. I. He just. He missed. Clearly. He missed the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

So the trade happened.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike's a sucker for Justin Fields, we know that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm a sucker for pain. So we'll just buy in one more.

[Jason Moore]

Time and then final note, you are. We're playing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we're playing each other.

[Jason Moore]

The heads up I gave you Marv. So if Marv does the 102 tonight, it will be against me.

[Andy Holloway]

You also wouldn't have been playing Kyler Murray. You would have been playing Justin Fields.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So you opted into Kyler and Marv tonight. And I want the people at home to watch. They watched Jason win a Monday night football matchup. Now watch tonight knowing that every catch that Marvin makes hurts Mike.

[Mike]

It's going to be fascinating.

[Jason Moore]

I also will be very happy.

[Andy Holloway]

I know I need him to be good. You guys. You guys are still Marv fans. So we've got a huge show today. We have starts of the week. We've got a ton of matchups to get into. It's a big week for fantasy. Right. We've got three weeks of data. So the tools, they've been activated. Right. The stream finder tool, the strength of schedule tool. An opportunity to get into all of the Foot Clan tools and resources. We got rest of season rankings launching soon. Today, question mark.

[Mike]

No, today.

[Andy Holloway]

Today.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You could have gone with soon.

[Mike]

No, no, no. I want to force our hand. So we will have rest of season rankings up today.

[Andy Holloway]

And we have never had those before.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

So for the first time ever, rest of season rankings should be helpful for evaluating trades. Obviously, I got Marvin number one. Rest of season, very easy. Unbiased opinion there. All right, let's. Let's jump into the news. And before we do that, I want to remind you jointhefoot.com for all of those tools, including the rest of the season rankings. The ultimate dashboard, the extra episodes, the.

[Mike]

Community, the waiver wire tool.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we're piling them up at this point. I think we're going to take a few things away.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, I mean, you got a balance, right?

[Mike]

You prune the bush so it can grow more beautiful.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we do the, like the Disney Vault thing?

[Mike]

Oh, that's a good idea.

[Andy Holloway]

When they all. When they decided that this would be a cool idea in the 90s, just like we'll just release a movie for a couple minutes.

[Jason Moore]

You know that movie you like?

[Mike]

Can't get it now you want it, you can have it.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess they knew the power of scarcity, which they've not. They've opposited it with Star wars movies now. Yeah, there's no scarcity. Well, we do vault.

[Mike]

Go to footclan.com before it disappears. News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

Zach Charbonnet is officially listed as questionable, but he has three full practices this week.

[Jason Moore]

Zach, come on. It's a short week, man. Just rest up.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you'd like another Ken Bone Walker evening?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Cardinals defense is pretty good. You guys both have Seattle winning the game.

[Mike]

I do, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And the line is kind of a toss up because it's gone back and forth. Cardinals started favored right now at Seattle by like one or something like that.

[Mike]

Last I saw was Seattle one and a half.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. It should be interesting. It might be a bit of a defensive game. I wonder if we'll get some low score.

[Mike]

Do you expect Charbonnet to play since he practiced all week?

[Andy Holloway]

I do.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I do too.

[Andy Holloway]

Jakori Krosky. Merritt had missed Wednesday's practice. It was limited or is listed as precautionary and that he should be back out there. Devonte Adams also didn't practice on Wednesday. Hamstring. You don't like hearing older receivers with hamstring issues, but Sean McVeigh says it's not going to affect his availability. Did you have some thoughts?

[Mike]

Well, I'll have thoughts in our next segment for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Our next segment?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay. Isaiah likely limited in Wednesday's walkthrough. Still don't know if Isaiah Likely is going to be back out there. You know, there have been people that have Mark Andrews and maybe they got Britain Strange on the bench. If you can swap Britain Strange for Isaiah Likely put them on your roster. That's fine. I think try to figure out who's going to be the guy there. Big week for Andrews last week. Xavier Worthy full practice on Wednesday, but I don't know what the snaps are going to look like for Worthy. Do you confidence in him?

[Jason Moore]

I would not.

[Mike]

Yeah. I don't think there's any way that you can start him with the report that he's going to be back on a limited basis wearing a harness like you've got to see what it looks like first. I can't fathom he gets enough touches. He might help the Chiefs but not necessarily help your fantasy team.

[Andy Holloway]

DeAndre Swift, Cole Comet Limited on Wednesday. Colson Loveland not practicing. He has dealt with injury issues so far. Maybe Ricky Pearsall. Juwan Jennings also didn't practice. Pearsall with the knee. He says it's feeling good. I actually don't know when I hurt my knee. Little soreness, not concerned. But it's the 49ers. Anybody that shows up on the practice report for the 49ers, it's from 0 to 100 games out that they're going to miss. And so Brock, Purdy, Mack Jones, both limited on Wednesday. I think it'll be Purdy this week. Do you guys have opinions on that's.

[Jason Moore]

That's where I lean to.

[Mike]

Yeah. I believe Purdy will be there and if he is out there, he's been a decent fantasy option for, you know, like, I lost Dak, basically. That's how I feel. Like Dak had a, the same injury that CD Lamb had with CD Out. I'm like, especially in a tough matchup, I can't imagine playing him. But Brock is on my radar.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, it makes sense. I almost signed him this morning in one of our leagues. All right, that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. All right, time to jump in.

[Mike]

Starts of the week presented by Paramount. Plus.

[Andy Holloway]

Starts of the week for week number four at the quarterback position.

[Jason Moore]

This is the start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Love. Jordan Love. It better be playing Dallas, the Cowboys, who they only put eight guys out on defense every week and we haven't seen. Look, it was disappointing last week. I thought Jordan Love would be fine against Cleveland. I thought they would get it done. Cleveland is making sure no one is fine against them. So that was a backfire. But you know, the PR the previous two weeks before last week's debacle for the packers leading the NFL in adot average depth of target, throwing it down the field inexcusably. Like, I had kind of made some comments. I didn't make an official guarantee, but I had said that Matthew golden was going to score last week. I stand by it because Matthew golden caught a pass up the sideline. There was no safety or defensive back ahead of him. And then he ran straight out of bounds.

[Mike]

The packers sideline. He ran to the packers side and when he went out of bounds, you see like five players whose, you know, hands go to their helmet. Like, what did you just do? He was running at an angle.

[Andy Holloway]

It was like tilted the field to the right and he rolled out.

[Mike]

But the crazy thing was like his, his momentum very well might have taken him out of bounds. He might not have been able. He might not have been able to actually stay in bounds there maybe. But he did not try. I mean, didn't remotely like lean at all. It was just like Hey, I gotta. I got a nice catch. Let me walk right out of bounds really easily.

[Jason Moore]

So does he Meowthy?

[Mike]

No, not yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Not yet. Yeah, but Jordan Love is my start of the week. And the Cowboys past defense, we know how dookie they are. Oh, they're.

[Mike]

Let's hope he does it early.

[Andy Holloway]

Dead last in yards per attempt allowed. Dead last in completion percentage over expectation. Dead last in explosive pass play rate. They put the. Well, yeah, we'll just call them bad.

[Jason Moore]

They put the Duke and Duke.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I. Look, I was going to say they put the something in Dallas, but here we go.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike]

All right, I'm going to go with.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, but people think I hate Dallas. By the way. I just saw this. People think I'm like personal vendetta. I actually kind of like Dallas. I'd like him to win. This is called objective analysis. Have you watched your team?

[Mike]

Right, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Your defense, you shouldn't like that.

[Mike]

Terrible. All right, so my start of the week this week, Caleb Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh boy.

[Mike]

Against the Raiders. I know. Who would have thought, right? Caleb Williams, he has not had a great beginning to his career, but from a fantasy football perspective he's been very good. He's actually the quarterback three right now on the season and his fantasy game, it's taken another leap this year thanks to his scrambling. The only quarterbacks with more fantasy points off of scrambles so far this season, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Jalen hurts. Nine scrambles for 79 yards and a touchdown. And the defensive matchup is great. I love picking games that are in a dome. Thank you. The weather will be fine. And the past defense of the Raiders 28th and expected pass points 25th and passing yards allowed. 25th and fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks. You know, he is a guy that I was sad to see. It was like a pump fake for me. When Dak went down, I looked at Sleeper and he was one of the highest trending quarterbacks like additions and I was like, I don't know how he made that list because he's rostered almost everywhere. But I was like, oh, I thought he was on the waivers. I was like, yeah baby, he's not. But I would start him if I had him.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, who do you got?

[Jason Moore]

I'm going with Bo Nicks against the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals are not a very good team right now and it's not been great honestly for Bo Nix, the QB21 through three weeks, he's averaging under 200 passing yards a game. However, this week we all have him ranked in the top 10. The Broncos have a 26 point implied team total. That's the fourth highest for this week. The rushing floor still has been there for two of the three of the three weeks. He's averaging six attempts and 24 yards per game. And since he has allowed the sixth most completions to opposing quarterbacks, they can't get pressure on Bo. He just missed on three deep shots last week. I mean, he hits on one of those. The concern for Bo Nix has gone out the window. And I'm just. I'm going to double up here because this is pretty rare for I think any of us to ever do on the show. My quarterback and my running back start of the week are from the same exact team. So I was going to throw it out. Is J.K. dobbins, who through three weeks has been the running back 13, 15 and 12 with a touchdown in each game. We saw a little more consolidation from the Broncos. Like Bidet kind of got the boot last week. And that. It actually didn't really turn into an uptick for R.J. harvey, turned into an uptick for J.K. dobbins, who.

[Andy Holloway]

He's looked really good.

[Jason Moore]

He has looked good. And I mean, while he's looking good, you got to. You got to stay on this train. Bengals defense saw it. They were manhandled by Jordan Mason. And the matchup of the Denver O line, third in yards before contact. Cincinnati's defense, 27th and yards before contact allowed. It is a match made in heaven. I really like the Broncos this week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Amari and Hampton is my running back start of the week against the Giants, it was a matter of time and circumstance. Right. We did have a very unfortunate injury. Nobody wants to see that happen. Hampton took advantage of the increased opportunities and here we are, we're three weeks into the season, and it's Amarian Hampton's backfield from here on out. I know we had somebody in one of our leagues make a trade. I think a week or two ago they got Amarian Hampton plus something for Chase Brown at the time. And you look at the way that that has turned fantasy football's. Yeah. And the Giants look for all of their strengths on the defensive side. So far, the run defense has been very exploitable. Second most rushing yards allowed, second most yards after contact, which is a Hampton special. Second highest rush success rate on man and gap scheme plays, which is a Greg Roman special. So look, it's a really good matchup for Hampton. I think it's. It's going to be stardom this week. It's going to be stardom here on out.

[Mike]

Yeah. Start them every week.

[Jason Moore]

But I just wanted to throw a quick little. Just a quick little nugget here for Dynasty Bros out there. If you hadn't seen, there was a report that Kamani Vidal is actually the next man up for the Chargers.

[Andy Holloway]

So like that's encouraging for Hampton.

[Jason Moore]

So. Yeah, this was not. This was nothing against Hampton. It's just.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You want to stash backup running backs and Vidal I. According to this report that Jim Harbaugh is the one who said it.

[Andy Holloway]

Sassoon.

[Jason Moore]

So.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, he's back.

[Mike]

Yeah, the locks will be washed. My starting running back, Chuba Hubbard going to play against the New England Patriots. He's running back 13 on the season. He's averaging 19 opportunities a game. He is, you know, you forget that he's one of the elites when it comes to volume workload. He's one of eight running backs with 40 plus rush attempts and 10 receptions so far this season. He's on pace for six 79 receptions. And right now, the matchup against New England, they are giving up quite a lot of. Right now 4th most running back receiving yards. So even though that's not like his exact specialty, he is being used in that way. Tet is a little banged up. I mean, Hubbard is.

[Andy Holloway]

Who would you rather throw to, Chuba Hubbard or Xavier Leggett?

[Mike]

Oh, I mean, exactly. That's why Chuba is getting four or five targets in this game. So I think he's someone that should be in your lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

Does he still feel extremely disrespected in the.

[Mike]

He is still disrespected by me in my mind and heart. I still. This is why I got to like force him to be a start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

I got into the DOC before you. I was strongly considering putting Chuba in and I do. I think he's a great play. I do have a little bit of pause of the way that Rico has been used lately in order to.

[Mike]

Rico has sucked.

[Andy Holloway]

You talked about the goal line. The opportunities in the last game I think were all. We're all Rico in the.

[Jason Moore]

In the. Yes. In the five. But it's like those. They did come later in the blowout. But just overall, Rico, I don't know. He's just. I have some pause with. With Chuba long term, but for this week I'm with it as a start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Wide receiver, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receiver. I got Jacoby Myers. I know Trey Tucker is the hotness and everything, but I'm going with Jacoby kind of like that going against the Chicago Bears. He's. He's still their number one guy. Weeks one and two, he was getting absolutely peppered with targets. And then you can't get peppered with targets when your teammate is taking the ball to the house.

[Andy Holloway]

One touch scores.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. So like last week, it was only four targets. He still managed to get 63 receiving yards and he is only. There's only five wide receivers who have hit 60 or more receiving yards in each of the first three games. It's Puka, JSN, Keenan, Cuge and Jacoby Myers. He. I think you got to go right back to the fantasy vegetables. He'll be good for you.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that's a super smart play because everyone was kind of buying into the target totals and you're going to have outlier weeks, you're going to have down weeks. But we like Geno Smith this week and I like that one. All right. My tandem, I'm putting Jordan Love with Matthew golden starting him. Matthew golden, start of the week. He's in my lineup and he's going to play football this weekend. Dude, he's going to score this weekend.

[Jason Moore]

If it does, he's going to score.

[Mike]

Wait, is that a touchdown guarantee?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he needed it. That would have led him up the field and not out of bounds if I had just given him the touchdown guarantee. So Matthew golden into the end zone.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe twice with the snap counts and the route participation this week. If he doesn't do something, it will be highly concerning.

[Andy Holloway]

It will be. This has to be the game. The only reason something wouldn't happen for Matthew golden this week is because you're expecting it to happen. That's how it feels for fantasy football. I saw somebody say that the other day. Look, 71% route participation last week, up from 65, 44. You don't have Jaden Reed. We think Tucker Kraft is healthy. He'll be involved. But Matthew Golden, I think it was seven opportunities in a game where their offense barely did anything last week. The Cowboys are giving up so many yards. Matthew golden will get behind this defense. I'm all about it this week. Sure. I'll give you the touchdown guarantee for Matthew golden. Officially.

[Mike]

All right. All right. I think he's going to get two now. My wide receiver, start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Plus 1700 for two.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Because that's ludicrous.

[Mike]

Just. I might have just experienced played with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Invested.

[Mike]

Yeah. An investment. Devonte Adams, obviously. Him popping up with the hamstring isn't something I love to see but it was a Wednesday. McVeigh said he's not concerned. It's just hopefully just one of those veteran day of rests. He's been so good guys. His.

[Jason Moore]

He has.

[Mike]

His utilization is otherworldly and what he is doing right now. So. The last nine years, Devonte Adams has averaged 12, 13 yards and 11 touchdowns through three weeks. He is on pace for 1207 yards and 11 touchdowns. He's just. Devonte Adams is just being Devonte Adams. Stafford can absolutely support him. We saw this with Cooper cup and Puka together. He's just a staple of consistencies. The wide receiver 11 right now and. And the Rams Colts game highest over under of the week, 49 and a half. The Rams are three and a half point home favorites. You know, Devonte Adams shouldn't be a question mark anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

There's. There's a world right where the, where you have LA versus LA in the super bowl this year. Like both of those teams sure are definitely on the short list of potential candidates to get there.

[Mike]

That'd be pretty cool.

[Jason Moore]

At the tight end position. I'm going with T.J. hawkinson.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Ocules versus people need to hear this. He in Ireland. Bonjour, everyone. Jordan Addison is back.

[Mike]

It's because of the quarterback upgrade.

[Jason Moore]

It might have something to do with it. And look, Addison's back. So people might be like, I don't want to play Hercules. No, I'm in on him. The 20% target share that he's had through three games, it's number six among tight ends in the league right now. We saw Hunter Henry destroy this Pittsburgh Steelers defense just recently. And narrative street, guys, the Minnesota Vikings are just a tiny plane ride away from their homeland, Scandinavia.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, oh, the Vikings. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

So clearly they're more comfortable.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. They're like, hey, we're back.

[Andy Holloway]

I think somebody got home. Somebody got mad at me saying that they were going on the road two weeks in a row because it was like, they're going overseas.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

I was like, that seems to count to me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, if there was super count.

[Andy Holloway]

It should say they're going on the road and the seas.

[Mike]

Because I don't think they're going on the seas.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't think they're.

[Mike]

I don't think they're taking a boat.

[Andy Holloway]

Aren't taking a boat.

[Mike]

Correct. I know it's.

[Jason Moore]

When you say on the road, it implies that I could drive there.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike]

Oh, that's a good counter. Counterpoint.

[Andy Holloway]

You just talked about Hunter Henry. He is my start of the week. This week it's been really interesting to see the New England Patriots offense and who are the most dependable pass catchers. What if I told you Hunter Henry led the team in targets per game, target share and receiving yards per game. I mean, through three weeks he's always been capable. Sometimes tight ends aren't necessary. Right now he feels extremely necessary. Stefan Diggs is good enough to run 7 yards and turn around. Keisha Booty seems like the next best player. But Demario Douglas not involved. Kyle Williams not involved. It's been Hunter Henry.

[Jason Moore]

Get Kyle Williams on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

And let's remember we haven't seen a lot of Drake May right. He's going to pick his favorites. He feels very comfortable targeting Hunter Henry. It's Carolina eighth most fantasy points given up to tight end so far. I think you just stay with Hunter Henry. He's, you know, more better than Zach Ertz this week. To me, he's better than Kyle Pitts this week. To me he's the start of the week.

[Mike]

Speaking of necessary Ferg Daddy. Oh yes, he is currently still living. That can't continue for much longer because he's finally rested. He's got to be sleep and Ferg.

[Andy Holloway]

Daddy is Ferg Daddy's Jake Ferguson. Got it.

[Mike]

Jake Ferguson, tight end for the Dallas Cowboys. Terrence Ferguson, who will need to throw the ball a lot and do not have CD Lamb through three weeks, he has the most total receptions of any tight end to start a season since 2016. Here are the players in the NFL with more receptions than Ferg Daddy. Pukinakua. End of list. That is it.

[Andy Holloway]

That's wild. That's crazy.

[Mike]

You're good to start him right now. He is needed, is necessary and he should be in your lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they don't have a lot. No, like, even, even the opportunity for like Turpin this week feels a little like nerve wracking.

[Mike]

I mean, I don't think it's turpentine.

[Jason Moore]

Nice. Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, that was Starts of the week presented by Paramount plus, watch the Ravens vs Chiefs game this Sunday. Get started at paramountplus.com NFL we'll take a break. We'll hit the forecast.

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[Andy Holloway]

Into the forecast we go.

[Mike]

Fantasy forecast Presented by Prize Picks.

[Andy Holloway]

27 receptions for Jake Ferguson. The next Highest at the tight end position. Do you know who it is?

[Jason Moore]

Is it Juwan?

[Andy Holloway]

Is Juwan Johnson next? Highest after that. Do you know who it is? Trey McBride.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

Number four and number five are tied.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

Harold Fannin and Kyle Pitts.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Boy, Kyle Pitts didn't do a lot with that. Yeah.

[Mike]

Career.

[Andy Holloway]

With his career. Yes, his career. All right, into the forecast. We go international games this week. Make sure you set your lineups early because.

[Jason Moore]

And my alarm clock. NFL. Ugh.

[Andy Holloway]

This is where the what the west coast is not the best coast. It's 9:30 eastern.

[Jason Moore]

East coast. Like, this is what east coasters. This is what we're used to.

[Mike]

You wake up and you let the ball come to you.

[Jason Moore]

It's Sunday morning. You let the sun wake you up. Not that. No alarm clock necessary. You just wake up and there's football over here. I'm like, it's dark outside.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Playing football.

[Andy Holloway]

We've got the 6:30am game, Minnesota versus Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh sitting two and one. Minnesota two and one game in. Well, Ireland. So two and a half point. Minnesota, they're the favorites. Forty and a half over, under.

[Mike]

That's not great.

[Andy Holloway]

So both teams right now in the bottom 10 and pass rate over expectation. They're not throwing the ball a ton.

[Mike]

Which is really, really surprising for the Vikings. That has not been there style in the. In the lafleur era. And I think it will change. I think it will change. I do as well with Carson Wentz right now.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, and it could have changed last week with Carson Wentz, except the Minnesota defense couldn't stop scoring. So, like, I mean, even if. Please don't even a team that likes to pass over expectation, I mean, even they're like, ah, we should not be throwing the ball right now.

[Andy Holloway]

So you have a international matchup here. Aaron Rodgers, Carson Wentz, you know, Jaylen Warren and Jordan Mason have been super impressive on the season.

[Jason Moore]

They are. They're both must plays for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Jalen Warren, if people aren't aware, one of eight running backs to be top 20 in all three weeks. I mean, he's been getting all the work.

[Jason Moore]

His utilization is wild. He was a 50% workhorse last week, meaning percentage of total team rushing attempts and targets.

[Mike]

He played 80% of the snaps. And Aaron Rodgers does what Aaron Rodgers wants. And he has. He said a couple weeks ago, we've got to get him more involved in the passing game because every time he touches the ball in the passing game, special things happen. Well, he went from two targets Week one, four targets. Week two, six targets. Week three. I think these trends continue.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Jalen Warren would be making a ton of headlines if he could just get into the end zone right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he's managing to finish top 20 in spite of no rushing touchdowns on the season. He's a must play. Jordan Mason, that's a must play as well.

[Jason Moore]

Which reminder Warren was. Gainwell got the touchdown, but Warren had some opportunities and then they, they ended up putting game one and they ran a trick play.

[Andy Holloway]

So what is the truth about this Steelers defense? Because they struggled like crazy in Week 1 against the jets, they were awful. In New York, they were not great. 31 points given up in week two against Seattle at home last week, they forced a bunch of fumbles. Only gave up 14 points to the New England Patriots. Are they good? Are they bad? I mean, they talk. They're the highest paid defensive.

[Jason Moore]

I think they're bad.

[Mike]

Yeah. I think that they have some talent. They're ball hawks. They're, you know, Ramsey's going to go after turnovers and I think they can cause turnovers. Obviously they can get sacks with Watt as well. So from a fantasy perspective, I think the defense is a playable defense this week against Carson Wentz.

[Andy Holloway]

But you like them more this week than, let's say Washington against Atlanta?

[Mike]

No, I'd play Washington. I think I would like Washington in Atlanta. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike]

However, from a standpoint of can they stop the opposing team? Not really. They turned the ball over three times or four times last week. But that was also like the. They gave up plenty of yards. They didn't look great. And you had two fumble prone players in Antonio Gibson and Ramondra Stevenson that lo and behold, fumbled again.

[Andy Holloway]

Kind of sounded like fumble pros because, like they're professional fumblers, which also applies.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It's, it's been the story of Gibson's career as he gets opportunities because somebody else fumbles and he's like, watch this. I feel like this is a strange temperature check situation at the wide receiver position. Where are you with Jefferson? Where are you with Metcalf? I mean, we are, we're three weeks in. We haven't talked a lot of Jefferson at all.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he, he's, he's been quietly. Okay. It's, I mean, it's not Justin Jefferson, the guy that you drafted early in the first round.

[Andy Holloway]

Addison's back.

[Jason Moore]

But in week one, you know, 12.8 points, 9.6. Somehow he scraped together 9.6 points. So three for 81 in that horrific game against Atlanta and Then last week 5 for 75 again a weird game script for Jefferson still made it to 75 yards. So I'm my confidence in Justin is still sky high.

[Andy Holloway]

You like him more than chase rest of the season?

[Jason Moore]

I think so, yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah, I do.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Interesting to have that conversation. DK Metcalf, does he feel like the breakout is coming? Does he feel touched down or bust right now? I mean this is. This is the worst matchup for wide receivers in all of football. Minnesota is number one against them.

[Mike]

Ironically over the entire season. Last year they were the worst. So I think the truth is somewhere in between they are going to be a very good run defense. DK Metcalf very necessary for this offense and you know it was a weird game last week where he only got four targets. I don't you like him more than.

[Andy Holloway]

Marv tonight against Seattle on the road or not on the road? Sorry. Overseas.

[Mike]

I think I would play Marv over DK this week.

[Andy Holloway]

DK or Devonte Smith at Tampa?

[Mike]

I would play Marv or I would play DK there.

[Andy Holloway]

So if still Marv, DK or Devonte Smith, you'd trade for Marvin playing?

[Mike]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

But the last one out here is Jacoby or dk and that's Jacoby for me.

[Mike]

Jacoby is. I'm really happy you made him a start of the week because his disappointing week last week and Trey Tucker's breakout, like Jacoby is the one and he's going to have a great game.

[Andy Holloway]

TJ Hawkinson, you already heard it. Mike started the week. He made the case for that. And you're not really starting the tight ends because there's too many of them in Pittsburgh.

[Jason Moore]

Are you throwing Addison right into your lineup?

[Andy Holloway]

Nah, man, no need. You've got Marv anyway, so obviously I would. I know, I know, I know. The Commanders 2 and 1. I just talked about this game. They're going to Atlanta. Atlanta's 1 and 2. It was a depressing week for the Atlanta offense. It's also a Dan Quinn revenge game, in case you're tracking revenge games. Washington -1 1 1/2 on the road over unders 45 1/2. Washington won in overtime last year against them. What are we thinking about Jaden Daniels this week? Are we going to get him back out on the field and do you. Does it change the way you project this game?

[Mike]

I think he will start, but honestly, I mean he doesn't even know. He said he's feeling better, but he's not sure if he can go. He's limited in practice. But he is practicing. It's a situation where if Jaden Daniel starts, you start him. And honestly if he doesn't, I think Marcus Mariota, he's fine for fantasy. He runs a lot despite being, you know, an older veteran now got nothing to lose.

[Andy Holloway]

Well any six for 40 on the ground. Number six overall quarterback.

[Mike]

Yeah. So I think you start the Washington Commanders quarterback. As far as how it changes the rest, I presume better for every other possible player that you know. If you wanted to play Bill Crosky or Bill Bill or if you wanted to play Debo Samuel, you're hoping that Jaden Daniels is active.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Terry McClure might not play in this game. He's a DMP on Wednesday dealing with the quad injury. Seeking other opinions. I would consider him highly doubtful for this week.

[Jason Moore]

Same.

[Andy Holloway]

So I think Debo is a very comfortable play and I think the bigger question marks in this game have to do with the Washington running back room and then how we're feeling about Drake London. So let's start with the running backs. We know the story last week, you know, cross gamer, one target. It wasn't like the other guys got any targets though. I mean no targets for McNichols, none for Rodriguez.

[Mike]

Well, they were blowing him out so I mean I don't think we know for sure that he's not going to be involved in the passing game from what we saw.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to see another week? Yeah, I'd like to see a week with Jaden Daniels. That's kind of what I want to see for the passing game for the running backs. But Bill and then Chris Rodriguez and then McNichols. That's the order.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Bill is the only true startable.

[Andy Holloway]

One to me and you're playing Bijan. So I wanted to talk about Drake London briefly to get your opinion on some of these numbers right now. If you want to look at the stats for Drake London spending less time in the slot this year, his average depth to target is down to just 7.7 yards. Because we have seen these the you know, put it in the flat offense that they're running with Michael Pennix, you know he was above 11 in each of the first three seasons. That is concerning because it's not just hey Penix needs to become a better passer which he clearly does. He's dead lasting completion when he's pressured. Basically he's got to become a better passer. But then you also don't necessarily trust him to get the ball weight on the field or when Drake London does accumulate. Right now he's not accumulating big plays. Right.

[Mike]

I will say that, you know, he's done a lot of his work out of the slot as far as fantasy success in his short career. Last week, really good matchups at the cornerback position. This week, as in, they were really good corners. Bad matchup this week is kind of the opposite. So I expect a bounce back game for Drake. London.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather play Debo in this game without McLaurin or Drake? London, London.

[Jason Moore]

I play London.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. New Orleans at Owen. Three take on the three and O. Buffalo Bills, they are playing the game. There was some talk that they would just skip it.

[Jason Moore]

Just simulate it.

[Andy Holloway]

Just, just for sake.

[Mike]

Player safety. And it's not going to change anything.

[Andy Holloway]

Now Buffalo, I mean, last I looked it was 16 and a half. Now it's 15 and a half. Oh, so the betters, they like the Saints.

[Jason Moore]

Well, like there ain't no way they can win by 17 points, right?

[Mike]

It is, it's a hard line to pick genuinely when I was, when, you know, when I was making my picks. Because the Bills, unlike some other teams, they take, they, they do take their foot off the gas sometimes and they'll rest like. Does Josh Allen play in the fourth quarter? I don't know. But if he doesn't play in the fourth quarter, can the 21 point lead.

[Andy Holloway]

Become, you know, 14 and then you cover.

[Mike]

Right, Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, this is.

[Mike]

But the Bills are going to smoke the Saints who are traveling from Seattle on the road all the way cross country now to New York to get smashed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't really have any like inkling that it's not going to play out the way we think it's going to play out. Just because the Bills are that discipline. This would be the same as if the Saints were going into Detroit. You know, you'd expect them to execute. They've been two touchdown home favorites ten times in the Josh Allen era. So you know, at least the numbers wise, they've only hit that, you know, big. Like right now their implied point total is 31 and a half. So they've only hit that 32 plus implied mark twice in those games.

[Jason Moore]

Two out of ten.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, two out of ten. So we'll see. But you're starting who you know you're supposed to start here. Josh Allen, James Cook. I don't have a lot of confidence elsewhere on the receivers. Completely agree. I think they can win with the two players I just named. And you don't know if it'll be Keon Coleman or Cleo Shakir or Dalton Kincaid or anybody else, or Dawson Knox or.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Elijah Moore.

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, this is. Honestly, Josh Allen might not even do that much in this matchup. To me, it's. It's Josh Allen. You're still, of course, starting him. James Cook is going to be, you know, probably the running back, top three on the week. And then I kind of don't want anyone else on the Bills, despite how many points they're going to score, because you don't know where it's going to go.

[Andy Holloway]

And on the other side, desperation play for Tyler Johnson. Real quick. If you think that this game could get out of hand and you have backups in the game, I mean, that's a.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, you guys have talked about starting Tyler Algier in an emergency situation, so I just. I'm asking the question if. If you're salting this game away.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Ty Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you called him Tyler.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I'm sure that's what Ty is short for.

[Mike]

I did not know who he was talking about. I'm gonna be honest. I was like.

[Jason Moore]

Because Tyler Johnson.

[Mike]

About to Google.

[Jason Moore]

No, no. Tyler Johnson is a wide receiver.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

In the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Ty Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

So it was very confusing.

[Mike]

But what do you think?

[Andy Holloway]

His mother.

[Mike]

What about Tyler Warren.

[Andy Holloway]

Ty Johnson. Now do you understand?

[Mike]

No.

[Jason Moore]

If anything happened there, I would think it would be Ray Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone figure out the long form of.

[Mike]

I'm on it right now. That's all I'm doing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Okay. We have.

[Jason Moore]

But. So the other side. Joanne Johnson is. He's an auto start.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's just Ty. Oh. In your face before you go to the other side.

[Mike]

His mom was pissed.

[Jason Moore]

How dare you call it.

[Andy Holloway]

She's like, what the heck are you. Who is that?

[Mike]

The wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Shut up back there. All right, listen. Dalton Kincaid has been the number two and number three tight end.

[Jason Moore]

He's so weird.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just saying. He's not. We. Nobody's talked about it. Nobody's bought in. If you got a two and three. Here's the thing. If you got a two and a three week out of Kyle Pitts, if this exact same thing happens to Kyle Pitts, I feel like we're having conversations. We're all just like, yeah, it is a lie.

[Jason Moore]

Because he plays half the snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. 55%.

[Jason Moore]

It feels so fragile.

[Mike]

Kincaid is a fine start at the tight end position. You don't need as much. I mean, would you start Dalton Kincaid or David Najoku? I would start Kincaid.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Sorry, you were flipping to the other side.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I've just. Joanne Johnson, second in targets and second in receptions among the tight end. He is an autoplay.

[Andy Holloway]

Bills have been really good against tight end so far.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's just the way that the offense works and how fast it runs that your Juwan is in. But what do you do with Alvin Camara?

[Mike]

Alvin Camara is a must start. I see the question. To me, he's a must start. He had a very bad game last game and I know that the targets are down a little bit, but the.

[Jason Moore]

Opportunities are down a lot.

[Mike]

The opportunities.

[Andy Holloway]

Where's Derek Carr when you need him?

[Mike]

Like, didn't he have 20 opportunities last week? Are you on his profile?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he did. He had 20 opportunities, but I mean it's 18 carries for 42 yards.

[Mike]

He's on the field so much. He's still talented. He's been good the first two weeks and then had a bad outing last week. So could he get shut down again this week? Sure. But I'm not going to not start a running back getting 20 opportunities.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I want you to guess the target pace for Chris Olave through three weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's. Chris Olave is a.

[Mike]

He's leading. So I'm going to say 205, 209.

[Jason Moore]

He is stupid. It's probably never going to be fantastic for Chris Olave, but I mean, like Jacoby, sometimes you just need those. Those targets, those vegetables.

[Mike]

So yeah, if you give me that.

[Jason Moore]

Fourth quarter, like if you need to go. If you need a wide receiver to get volume, I think trading for Chris Olave right now is an okay thing to do.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. He has not surpassed 60 receiving yards in any game and he's on pace for 935 on 209 targets.

[Mike]

209 target pace for not 1,000 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are fantasy veggies.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The Browns are one and two and they are traveling to Detroit. Detroit's looking mighty fine of late, although they will be. Well, we got the Monday Night Football right. So they're a little bit of a short week, but they're at home and they're playing the Browns and the Vegas line here. Detroit -10 over under 44 and a half. 27 implied points for Detroit, 17 for the Browns. Browns defense did struggle to hold up over the course of a long game against Baltimore. So, you know, what is the Browns defense and what is that a threat to in your start sit decisions for Detroit? Is it at all?

[Mike]

It's not.

[Andy Holloway]

Is It a tempered expectation.

[Mike]

It's just tempered expectations like.

[Jason Moore]

Like Montgomery. You're not concerned about that play?

[Andy Holloway]

That one feels a little nerve wracking to me.

[Mike]

Okay, so he probably goes more into a flex decision if you have another great option, you know, like a Jacoby Myers. Yeah, I would play Jacoby Myers over David Montgomery. So you could have situations where you bench him after an incredible game. We have so far seen this defense shut down everybody they've played against and they've played against great running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play Cam Scatter Boo against the Chargers or David Montgomery against the Browns?

[Mike]

Scatter Boo.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I am very. I mean you're playing Almond Raw. Where are you guys? Is Jameson Williams just a flex decision on a week to week basis? Do you like him at home in this one? To me it's like the downfield throws. When we had the start state decision earlier in the week, you didn't see Jordan Love able to get the ball down the field a lot. It is a little bit concerning. He'll have a couple shots.

[Jason Moore]

I try to pivot away if I could. I mean the. The targets of at the end of last year have not duplicated for this year. He's. Jameson Williams is at a 13% target. Yeah. It's frustrating. It's so weird. It is so weird. What is going on with.

[Andy Holloway]

We just haven't needed it. That's the truth.

[Jason Moore]

But it's still. I mean you. You have a pie. You got 100% of the targets and 13% are going to the guy you just gave money to.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You didn't need to pay him.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair. I mean we just.

[Jason Moore]

Weird.

[Andy Holloway]

We need. We need to see him involved more. I think the number one starts it question on the week according to our website involves Quinshon Judkins who had a big week last week. But you have a Detroit Lions defensive front that was number five against running backs last year. Number nine so far this year. We know that they're going to stop the run and we also know that Vegas has this game. Obviously the Lions heavily favored the running game for the Browns may become irrelevant over a portion of the game. The number one question is Quinshon Judkins or Trey Benson for Arizona tonight. And I feel like that's a really.

[Mike]

Hard one because that's a great question.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like everybody wants to play Quinch on Judkins. If I had him, I'd want to play him. Sure. Emotionally, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I would play Benson.

[Mike]

I would be on the. I would be on the Judkins side personally, you did see, you know, Alvin Camara's bad game in week three, that was against Seattle. So Benson, if I have the opportunity to wait and see, I mean, we don't know, maybe D. Markado is more involved than we think. We're kind of assuming that Benson's going to get everything now that James Conner's gone. If you've got a Judkins available to start where you can take that break and see what you got in Benson, it's not a great matchup for Judkins, but it wasn't a great matchup for Judkins last week against the Packers.

[Jason Moore]

Being on the road impacts the decision for me though of the sure can I. And the defense is great, but can they hold the Lions down long enough? Because if, if the Lions jump out to a two score lead, you will see a lot more Jerome Ford on the field. That's just, that's his role in the offense.

[Andy Holloway]

So we've got one person on the Judkins side, right?

[Mike]

One on the Benson side and we.

[Andy Holloway]

Got one on the coward on the Trey Benson side. Our start sit tool, the ultimate dashboard would put Benson in. Okay, but it's funny, I was talking to some people yesterday and they're like, I really want to play this guy but the ultimate dashboard has this player.

[Jason Moore]

So play that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

And that's kind of what I wanted to talk about for a second. Like we are trying to give you information. So when you look at the start sit tool, we're telling you who's home, who's away, what's the over under, what's the line, what's the implied point total. You know how we're comparing how these teams have done against that position group. But let's be very clear, unless it's a blowout start sit type of situation, projected points wise, we just want you informed so that you can make the decision that you feel in your, in your gut. Right? Go with your gut, go with the team and the situation. You know your opponent. We don't know your opponent. So you might be favored, you might be an underdog, you might need a big play. You might need more information. You play Trey Benson, you get the advantage of knowing that's true what that position, you know what that player does on Thursday night instead of Sunday morning.

[Mike]

So as a reminder, put those players into your running back and wide receiver position.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a good reminder.

[Andy Holloway]

Put Marvin Harrison into my wider position.

[Jason Moore]

For the NFL to rule CD lame out.

[Mike]

Oh, thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that, do we need to tell.

[Jason Moore]

Them to do that apparently.

[Andy Holloway]

What if they're. What if he's going to play though?

[Jason Moore]

That he is not going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Jason is spinning out right now because he's got no ability to sign somebody.

[Mike]

I can't do anything with my roster because CD Lamb is doubtful.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So there you go.

[Jason Moore]

He's doubtful to play for three weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you guys kind of done with Cleveland Whiteouts right now?

[Mike]

No, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Jerry Judy's been outside the top 30 for three weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Cedric Tillman because of the game script that they will have to throw. I mean Joe Flacco, what 42 pass attempts per game. See, seriously all the way up there.

[Andy Holloway]

So Tillman is. I mean neither of those guys are getting it done. It's been Harold Phantom. We just talked about the receiving totals but like three catches for Tillman this past week, 26 yards, two for 22 the week before. Did score.

[Mike]

They didn't throw the ball a lot this last week.

[Jason Moore]

I mean they actually held it in control.

[Mike]

You were against a really good Packers I've talked about. I think they're the best defense in the league right now. The Packers D. And so that was. That was tough sledding. Now the Lions aren't a bad defense by any means but you usually throw more than you run on them.

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm starting other players.

[Mike]

Yeah, I mean I don't think.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think you need on the road.

[Mike]

I'm not mash them into line forcing them in. But I'm certainly not done with them or thinking that they are going to be bad this season.

[Jason Moore]

And the tight ends, I fan.

[Mike]

I go fan and over in a Joku. But they eat into each other's work so much that I think that like I would. I would play Dalton Kincaid over either Hunter Henry. Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, we'll take a break. We'll get into some more matchups.

[Mike]

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[Andy Holloway]

I just want the people to understand like the levels we go to to accomplish very on this show, Kyle the Borgogan apparently is still digging into Cumberland, Maryland birth records to find the true birth certificate name of Ty Johnson. We go deep and so this is what he's focusing on for the remainder of probably the day, if I'm honest. So make sure you get that information out there.

[Mike]

Hopefully not the day if he's the man I think he is.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you think he can get it sooner.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He may need to get boots on the ground. We may need to go to the records office.

[Mike]

3Pm Eastern. It will be done.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike]

Go get them, Kyle.

[Andy Holloway]

Carolina's one and two. They take on the one and two New England Patriots. The Vegas line here. New England minus four and a half. The overrunners 42 and a half Patriots. You know they're favorite at home. Carolina had the big win last week against Michael Penix and the Falcons. You know, I don't know who the Patriots are yet. That's kind of how I'm feeling.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this game is weird.

[Andy Holloway]

I talked a lot about Hunter Henry earlier as my start of the week and the fact that the receiving room. Like I know Stefan Diggs got dropped in our league this past week. He's still out there on waivers after waiver day. There was no drop it like it's hot. Pickup of Stefan Diggs.

[Jason Moore]

You guys didn't want. You want Diggs for my team?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean K Sean booty.

[Mike]

We had a. I can't CD Lambs down.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, right, right.

[Mike]

I would have.

[Andy Holloway]

We got 6 for 103 from K Sean Booty in week one and since then 1 for 16 and 2 for 28. Not encouraging. And then Demaria Douglas, part time player. So the offense right now and then you got the running back room which every. That's the big story. Everybody Wants to talk about, like, you know, yesterday we got some video. Right. We got the Chevy on, was getting those first reps. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It could be something, could be everything, and it could be nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And it's like what a. What a tumultuous situation where like, okay, let's say Ramon Ray gets forgiven, which I read an article yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It was very positive about getting him on track according to Mike Vrabel. And Vrabel's a veteran guy, he likes the vets. Antonio Gibson, same story. But it's also a really weird situation when a fumble ends that players maybe week or multiple weeks. Like, let's say Ramon Dre gets forgiven and gets opportunities. What if he fumbles?

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you remember when Chris Carson had a little fumbling problem for Seattle years ago? Remember this?

[Mike]

I don't remember that one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Chris Carson had a fumbling issue and I think Rashad Penny was behind him. And it was like there was a couple in your breath because he was playing so well. But then it's, you know, Ramon Dre, I would say has lit, has bent towards the surprisingly good side to start the year and what people might have expected. But the people want Trayvon Henderson out there.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, we do.

[Andy Holloway]

Are they going to get it this week?

[Mike]

I think they're going to get a lot more. Trayvon Henderson this week, he was in his own right, punished early on for his whiffs in pass protection. Now Vrabel came out and said they need Ramon Dre and that they trust Ramon Dre the most in pass protection. So Ramon Dre is not going to get the bench. But Travion Henderson, they spent a high second round draft pick on this guy and they punished him, rightfully so, for three holding penalties and screwing up pass protection. But they want to get the ball in his hands. They want to get it in space. And I think that over the course of the season, they will keep getting Treveon Henderson more and more involved. Now, is this the matchup where you start him or. You know, I think in a lot of leagues you're going to have to wait on starting Henderson and miss out on the first breakout week.

[Andy Holloway]

So, I mean, the people would much rather. Would you rather play Chase Brown against Denver or would you rather try it with Hindo?

[Mike]

I would rather try it with Hindo.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather play Judkins against Detroit after he did well last week?

[Mike]

Judkins, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then what about Scatter Boo?

[Jason Moore]

You play him, I'd play Scatter Boo.

[Andy Holloway]

It does feel. It's not Nice to have to wait and see. But it's also a long season and you don't want to get burnt. You know, what are your odds in this game of Ramondre having a bunch of the work? It's not zero.

[Mike]

It's a decent chance. And honestly the way that this game looks, you know, the Patriots are four and a half point home favorites and the Carolina Panthers offense, their defense is not great. I know you've got a good defensive player or two, but the whole of it is not a good defense. And their offense is very banged up. You've got Xavier Leggette who didn't play last week. We're not sure if he's going to be back. Probably not you by subtraction. Well, that. Why do you think they scored 30 points? That's fair. Jadavian Sanders is out. Tetaroa McMillan didn't participate in practice with a calf issue. This is part of why I like Hubbard. I think they're going to check down a lot to him. But I mean, maybe is Hunter Renfro, you know, the type of player where if you're in dire straits, you look to the waiver wire and I think so they're going to have to throw the ball somewhere.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that that's sneaky if McMillan were to miss. Definitely.

[Mike]

Yeah, for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean they are limited like you said. So you had Chuba at start of the week. It's just. Yeah, it could be, could be a run heavy victory for New England if all these passing weapons are hurt.

[Mike]

That. That was my point.

[Andy Holloway]

Bryce on the road. Troubled. Troubled on the road sometimes. I mean, he had a home game and they. It's not like he was productive last week in the 30 to nothing win, 16 reception or 16 completions for 121 yards. But yeah, that's interesting. The Hunter Renfro sneaky start. Jason Sneaky start of the week start.

[Mike]

And leave it at that.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, Mike, any other thoughts here?

[Jason Moore]

I just, I think this game is extremely weird. I'm not forcing. I like Chuba, but it's like other than that, I'm not forcing anyone in. I mean, McMillan's an auto start, so I'm not talking about him, but the other side, I'm letting the running backs do their thing and the Patriots wide receivers, they got to figure this thing out. Like I said, get Kyle Williams on the field. What are you doing? These other guys are not, they're not the future. They're not getting it done. Let the rook unleash him.

[Andy Holloway]

That is, I mean, that is A little bit of the problem with Rabel.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Or you know, at least in our perspective because I. The reason Trayvon has.

[Jason Moore]

To his own demise.

[Andy Holloway]

To his own demise. He is a really he. You're talking about Mike Vrabel deferring to Kyle Williams in the face of Stefan Diggs. That's a hard thing to do and that's. He's not doing it running back and he's not doing it wide receiver so far and that bugs me. Drake May, is he still a viable fantasy starter?

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. This week the matchup is pretty good. He's at home. He's favored the work that Ramon Dre and Travion are doing. A lot of it's been through the air. So I think Drake May is fine. He scrambles a lot. Second most scrambles in the NFL right now. He's probably a top ten play.

[Andy Holloway]

All right guys. The Chargers at three and I'll go to New York to take on Jackson Dart and the New York Giants who are owing three Chargers six point road favorites. The over unders 43 and a half this game. It does hit me a little weird. We're going to get to see Jackson Dart out there. Cam. Scatter. Boo. Malik neighbors. A lot of exciting down the line players for New York getting opportunities right now they're only at 18.8 implied point total. Herbert is entering the MVP conversation at this point. A month ago he was + 2000 to win MVP. Then he was + 1500 after Brazil. Now he's + 500. He's just behind like he's the guy behind Lamar and Allen.

[Jason Moore]

That's a big jump.

[Andy Holloway]

So the, I mean that one throw when he bent the bullet behind, I.

[Mike]

Think Nick Benito, it was helpful. It's also helpful when you are three and oh and you've got, you know, you got a lot of winnable games coming up on your schedule.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm, I'm really, I'm struggling with this one.

[Mike]

Oh, no, no. Andrew, no. Oh, he's got that itch.

[Jason Moore]

No, I mean, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's six points. Yeah. Oh.

[Mike]

Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Jason Moore]

It feels like you're almost upset with yourself.

[Andy Holloway]

I am, I am. That was not one I wanted to do.

[Mike]

He lets it come.

[Andy Holloway]

The button pushed itself. You think I want a rookie in his first week? I think. I think it might work. Jason talked about this. Sometimes rookies in that debut game, no tape. The fact he's got the mobility, I think he's going to execute a quick hitting offense. I think he's going to use his legs and look the line at six points for the Chargers. I think the Giants are going to be more competitive than people are expecting. And I hate that I'm saying it out loud.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I hate that you're saying it out loud, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Al Borland. What did you just say? Sorry, I was making a bet. I said, I can't believe I have.

[Mike]

To go make this bet now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Nobody like Kyle covered his eyes.

[Jason Moore]

I hope you are right. I find myself just really rooting for the Giants and Jackson Dart. I want it to be a thing.

[Mike]

I was just curious. We do our weekly picks and I was like, I wonder which side I took on that I didn't remember I was with you here.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's not good for me.

[Mike]

Yeah, I know. That's good for me.

[Andy Holloway]

It's much better when you think I'm a complete baboon. Yeah. Yeah, that's. We'll see what happens. That's not the story of this game.

[Mike]

There are so many unknowns. I mean, the story of the game is Jackson Dart, but he affects the two big assets of Cam Scatterboo and Malik Neighbors.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Your eyes are on the checkdowns, right?

[Mike]

Yeah, I mean, that's really important. Russia, Russell Wilson, he snaps the ball and he looks about 80 yards down the field and then he looks about 60 yards down the field and then he checks it down at this stage in his career and that was.

[Jason Moore]

Or throws it out of the end zone.

[Mike]

Well, sure. Well, that's because he was too close. He was still looking 60 yards down the field, Mike. But it was all fans.

[Jason Moore]

There was a mirage.

[Andy Holloway]

So look, we're starting Cam Scatterboo, right? Is that easy?

[Mike]

I don't think he's. I think, yes, you can start Cam Scatter Boo because you expect his workload in the passing game to still be there. Like, even if it's not a massive checkdown, he's not getting eight targets. You still think he's going to get four checkdowns? Maybe two. Four total targets. Two that were, you know, improv. Then a couple of screen passes designed to him. He's looked really good. This isn't a great matchup and we are curious about the utilization in the receiving game. So he's not a must start Benson tonight.

[Andy Holloway]

Scatter Boo at home on Sunday.

[Mike]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like that's probably a really big question, actually. That's probably.

[Mike]

I'm going to go Scatter Boo because I am actually more. Even though there's questions with Dart, I'm still more optimistic about Cam Scatter Boo's receiving work than I am about Benson's receiving work.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Herbert's a lock, right? We're playing Justin Herbert every week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Malik Neighbors as well. You play him, you don't want to miss out on the great and the potential. Malik Neighbors is too good. Beyond that, though, I think those are your. I mean, Scatterboo and Neighbors on the Giant side right now. Quentin Johnson has led the team in receiving yards for three consecutive weeks. So to start the year and it's not like, look at us, I mean, Quentin Johnston, at one point in time you're like, oh, he's just a deep threat. Well, he has 10 targets. He's on pace for 136 targets.

[Mike]

He was the 21st pick in the NFL draft and he is looking really great right now. While he doesn't have to be the centerpiece of the defense focal point, you.

[Jason Moore]

Have some good news for Marvin Harrison Jr. Oh, baby. Wait, look at Huge. This dude was the laughingstock. He was his career. We were all done.

[Andy Holloway]

He was the most physically gifted of the three receivers they have. And I can tell you from the tape, it's is not the same player you saw the first year or the second year. He's actually, you know, it's a credit to Harbaugh. He instills confidence in players and I think you're seeing more effort and athleticism from Quentin Johnson. Not just going up.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if we can do that.

[Andy Holloway]

Not just going up into the air, but actually in between the play, running back to the. I mean, it's been really impressive.

[Mike]

Yeah. I don't see how you can bench Quentin Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to play all three guys, don't you?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I think all three are.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's silly. It's true. I don't know. I don't think you're always going to be happy with all three guys, but you still pretty much need to start them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, it's wild because Ladd is. The Lad is a start and is also the least like for me on the. Like, Quentin has to be in there and Keenan has to be in there.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's like lad, I probably has to be in there, but you may have an option there that people have been. I mean, don't. Don't go start and trade Tucker over Lad is what we're saying. Right, Right.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

The Philadelphia Eagles are three and. Oh. And they travel to take on the also undefeated Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who are sitting at three and oh, the Vegas line. Philly minus three and a half. The over unders 43 and a half.

[Mike]

The Tampa Bay tugboats.

[Andy Holloway]

Baby tugboats.

[Mike]

Oh yeah, that's the nickname of their. Their tugboat. The guy that they signed to stop the. To stop the tush push.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Needed that context but now I'm in. I'm in now, dad, because I was.

[Jason Moore]

Like the professional wrestler.

[Andy Holloway]

So they're just going to put a 460 pound man in there to try to stop the tush push.

[Mike]

I love it. I love it so much. I really hope. I don't know for sure right now he's on the practice squad. I don't know that they're actually going to bring him up and do this, but they signed him this week and there is one reason to put this man on the NFL field. Like he is healthy enough.

[Andy Holloway]

Offensive side of the tush push too.

[Mike]

Sure. Yeah. He give him the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He might not even play though, right?

[Mike]

He might not. But Desmond Watson, 450, 60,000 pounds. I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

So they're both two and oh, these teams are two. And I feel like the injury to Mike Evans makes this game feel a little bit shakier. But Chris Godwin practice in full Ameca Buka has been a revelation. Sterling Shepard been heavily involved. Kate otten can be Mr. Necessary and it's at home like that. This game being at home in Tampa makes it a much more exciting game. It's not a high over under, but how competitive do you think this is going to be? I mean, I feel like it's not going to be a blowout.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think it'll be a blowout either. I think that's a bakery. I think the bucks can hang.

[Mike]

Yeah, I mean it's. It's tough sledding, but the nice thing is you don't have that many options. Sterling shepherd could ppr his way to emergency start. Yeah, to a. Yeah, an emergency start. But we've talked about a bunch of other people that I would probably play over him. So you probably don't need to go that low a Mecca. There's no way you're not going to play him.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike]

And since he's all alone, he should be okay.

[Jason Moore]

I think Godwin's going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Godwin should be out there.

[Jason Moore]

I think he'll play limited snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

So I don't full practice on Wednesday.

[Jason Moore]

The. The matchup. Plus I'm sure we'll get some, you know, hey, it's Sunday morning. Glazer is going to Be like, hey, Godwin's going to play, but he's going to be unlimited snaps. So he. I'm not pushing him into my lineup just yet.

[Mike]

The biggest question on the Buck side is Baker? Even. Even if he's got Godwin there. Tough matchup. No Mike Evans.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't doubt him. Don't doubt the dog at home.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

Because I. Yeah, because, I mean, who.

[Mike]

Let me give you two options.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, go for it. Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Mike]

Geno Smith, who was my streaming candidate at home against Chicago. High over, under. Easy matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought Chicago's defense looked great last week. I'm going to take Baker.

[Mike]

What about Daniel Jones against the Rams? Highest over, under on the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Rams are a good defense, too. I mean, I'm fine going either one there. That's a coin flip to me.

[Jason Moore]

The last name I'll throw out. I mean, he has to pass concussion protocol, but Justin Fields.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the Monday game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I don't know, man. I mean, I don't feel like Baker's going to basement perform for you. I don't think you're getting seven points from him. He's going to get two touchdowns in this game. He'll find a way to do it.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. Your ceiling might be better with Fields. It might be better with Daniel Jones. I can get on board with that. Even Geno.

[Jason Moore]

What if I told you so far, the game log for Baker Mayfield. Touchdowns, week one, three. Touchdowns in week two, two.

[Mike]

Don't. Don't say it.

[Jason Moore]

Touchdown in week three, one.

[Andy Holloway]

So then you think we got zero coming.

[Jason Moore]

These trends continue. The ticker might just start over. He's okay, but this is good analysis.

[Mike]

3 or 0.

[Jason Moore]

First of all, right, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the things you guys were worried about at the beginning of the year was that the rushing totals wouldn't be there for Baker. And he's on pace for almost 700 rushing yards. So look, to put up a top 10 week at quarterback with one touchdown. Dog.

[Mike]

He's such a dog, man. This guy is so amazing. I saw an interview with.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not too frightened at home, man. I'm just not.

[Mike]

I saw an interview with Mike Alstat, and it was. He was asked, like, if someone were to call up and say, you know, take your number because his number's retired. If you could give your number to any player, you'll allow any player to actually use your number. He's like, Baker is just like, he. I mean, Baker is. Dude, how do you not love that?

[Jason Moore]

Guy.

[Mike]

You watch him play and that guy loved Laser Mayfield. That dude loves football. He loves competing, he loves talking.

[Andy Holloway]

He loves it so much that it makes his pain stop hurting. It's.

[Mike]

It's amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

Jalen hurts. Play him saquon. Play him. A.J. brown and Devonte Smith. Are we.

[Mike]

I mean this. Yeah, you probably play him. You, you hope that Baker can get it done, can throw two touchdowns and that you have some second half action here.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you don't want to miss it tomorrow.

[Mike]

Yes, I do.

[Andy Holloway]

But that'll do it. Shout out to the doers for holding it down today. Al Borland, Papa Josh back there in Doosers alley. And we'll be back for another great episode of the show tomorrow. Make sure you go subscribe on YouTube. Subscribe Sunday live Sunday morning.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

[Mike]

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