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Alan Robinson
Hey, this is Alan Robinson, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
Mike Wright
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Welcome in Tuesday, September 8th. The show. The show is a little bit delayed this morning. Is it because there may have been a mustache hair in Mike's coffee mug? To be fair, we don't know for sure.
Alan Robinson
We're running forensics on it right now. It could have been an eyebrow. It could have been a beard, a mustache.
Jason Moore
And we don't know if it's yours.
Alan Robinson
Yeah, we don't know. That's one of the producers. I'm getting to the bottom of this.
Jason Moore
If it was yours, would you have drank it down?
Alan Robinson
That is an excellent question.
Jason Moore
Like, if you could confirm forensics were here. We just got it back. It was yours.
Mike Wright
Watched it fall from your face to the mug.
Jason Moore
Yeah, yeah.
Alan Robinson
And then drift to the absolute bottom.
Jason Moore
Right. We noticed Mike was looking at the bottom of his cup too often. We, like. We can't start the show.
Alan Robinson
Is it weird that I am saying no.
Jason Moore
That you wouldn't drink it?
Alan Robinson
Yeah.
Jason Moore
I mean, I don't think any of us have to drink mustache hair, but it's just weird.
Alan Robinson
My mustache is in my mouth all the time. If you're out there and you've had a mustache, you've licked your mustache, is.
Mike Wright
Your mustache in your belly?
Jason Moore
Right.
Mike Wright
That's the difference.
Alan Robinson
All of a sudden, it detaches from my face, and I. And I shun it. This is. I do not claim ownership. This is supposed to be a part of me.
Mike Wright
No more.
Jason Moore
Oh, my goodness. So. But we pressed on. We. We had Al Borland take care of that problem for you.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Alan Robinson
He saved me from myself.
Jason Moore
And here we are in week one of the National Football League season.
Alan Robinson
Unbelievable.
Jason Moore
I don't know how we got here. Much like the mustache here at the bottom of the mug. I don't know how it got there. I don't know how we got here.
Alan Robinson
And we'll never know.
Mike Wright
We're so close. It's. It's happening. It's this week. We're talking week one football.
Jason Moore
Yeah. It's great. And we have so much to talk. Hope everybody had a safe, healthy, happy, wonderful Labor Day. We took that time for a final breather before the season, and here we are. We're stoked. We're excited. The meglable. Today's the final draft day for that. So people have been drafting. That's been really exciting. We did surpass last year's total amount of meglable Entrance which means it is.
Mike Wright
Officially the largest fantasy football league of all time.
Jason Moore
You mean because it surpassed last year's.
Mike Wright
Which was the largest fantasy football league of all time.
Jason Moore
We have yet to be corrected on that.
Mike Wright
Which means it is the largest fantasy football league of all time.
Jason Moore
If you're just joining us for the season, welcome in to the show the fantasy footballers Andy, Mike and jason@the ff ballers. You can find us on twitter @the ff ballers. You can follow Jason @jason ffl Mike ff hitman. I'm Andy Holloway. The website which now has the week one rankings and the start sit tool thefantasyfootballers.com and the community of nearly 13,000 strong@jointhefoot.com so we have a lot of news and notes to get into today. Everything from extensions to roster cuts, some signings. But I thought it would be fun. We're right here on the precipice of the 2020 season to do some predictions. So let's predict, let's do some predictions. The super bowl. What do you got Mike?
Alan Robinson
I am going with a bounce back for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I have them making it in. The defense was elite enough to almost take them single handedly to the playoffs last year and with big Ben back and the weapons around him, I got the Steelers making it. I also have the Saints representing the nfc. I think that they're. The team remains solid over there and I'm taking the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Mike Wright
Oh yes.
Alan Robinson
To win Super Bowl. And which super bowl are we on here fellas?
Mike Wright
Geez, let me think. Do some math.
Alan Robinson
Oh yes.
Mike Wright
I love, I love that pick. I think that the Steelers and really if you look at Vegas odds, Vegas is expecting big things for the Steelers this year. Outside of those top, you know, teams that are perennially there over the last couple of years with the greatest quarterbacks the Lamar Jackson's and Pat Mahomes. The Steelers are in that mix. I really like bringing that up. I like your pick more than mine because it's more fun. Mine is super chalk. But the truth is I wanted to do what I believed and I think in this Covid season, those teams with continuity, the teams returning the same offense, the same defense for the most part have a leg up. And I've got the Ravens versus the Saints as well from the NFC and I've got Lamar Jackson winning his first Super bowl at Super Bowl 55.
Jason Moore
Oh, try to get it in there again, huh?
Mike Wright
Well, we'll just see how you do.
Jason Moore
All right. I did not go chalk. I am sticking with my early off season, super bowl pick, which is the Buffalo Bills.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
I am going to stick with them. I don't know if one of the extensions that we wouldn't have talked about today because it's on the defensive side of the ball. They extended Trudevius White. If you saw the video of Trudevius White, I retweeted it. Incredible player, incredible video. I love the Bills. You talk about continuity with their head coach Sean McDermott, Josh Allen making the next step and that defense being so foundational. I think Buffalo can get over the hump this year. So I'm going to take the non chalk Boulder prediction. I'm taking the Buffalo Bills and I'm taking them over and this is the change. I'm going to take him over Tampa Bay. That feels like maybe the popular NFC pick of the moment, but I believe it. And the reason is not because of a super team narrative with Tom Brady and bringing in Gronk, but because they were an ascending team regardless. And Bruce Arians is a really good head coach. Bruce Arians led the Arizona Cardinals with Carson Palmer to a 13. 3 season. He's a. He's been a great coach. Everywhere he's gone. I believe that he has the personnel to get them over the hump. So I'm going to take the Bills over the Bucks in Super Bowl.
Alan Robinson
Thank you.
Jason Moore
So NFL MVP picks.
Alan Robinson
All right.
Jason Moore
You want to do those?
Mike Wright
Yep.
Alan Robinson
I got Drew Brees, I got the Saints making it and I got Brees being the one carrying him there.
Mike Wright
I'm going to go Mahomes. He's the best.
Jason Moore
Boo.
Mike Wright
Yeah, you boo all you want. And at the end of the year when Mahomes is actually the mvp, you'd be like, boo. You got it right.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, but. But then other people will have gotten it right too. So you'll just be one of them.
Alan Robinson
Yeah.
Jason Moore
The other.
Alan Robinson
Enjoy splitting your jackpot.
Mike Wright
I will enjoy that more than having no jackpot.
Jason Moore
Yeah, fair enough. I'm going to give it to Josh Allen. Obviously. I have the Bills winning the super bowl, having a great season. Josh Allen. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go with him. I'd love to have said Kyler and the Cardinals in the Super Bowl. That would have been cool.
Mike Wright
But yeah, that would be.
Alan Robinson
It would be pretty.
Mike Wright
That would be awesome. Ain't happening. You know, speaking of the Buffalo Bills and continuity, I don't know if you are aware they are the number one team in continuity ranking done by snap percentage from last year. They are returning 88% of their snaps, 94 interesting percent on the offensive side of the ball. So they have extreme continuity. When you talk about offensive line, defensive.
Jason Moore
Line, the whole team, I love everything they're doing. I mean, bringing in Zach Moss, huge for that team with what they needed and then picking up Stefan Diggs to accentuate, you know what Josh, help Josh Allen with the deep ball and then continuity across the board. So obviously I knew that statistic.
Alan Robinson
Obviously.
Jason Moore
All right, last one. Offensive rookie of the year. We. It's hard for a quarterback not to win this, so we all think Joe Burrow will win it. So I guess we're saying runner up.
Alan Robinson
Sure.
Jason Moore
Offensive rookie of the year, runner up.
Alan Robinson
And it's also tough for a rookie wide receiver to come in and take it. So I'm going to go with a running back. Come on. You know, I'm going with Antonio Gibson.
Jason Moore
He's both. So perfect.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. Yeah, there you go. I think that if it's a running back, which I, you know, if it's not Joe Burrow, it will probably be a running back. It's going to be Jonathan Taylor, who means far more to the Colts if he gets the opportunity. And the Colts are a really good team. They could win this division. They could get in the playoffs. If that happens, it will not be Philip Rivers. That's really the reason. I think it'll be Jonathan Taylor.
Jason Moore
Well, and I'll go with one that isn't. If he gets the opportunity, one that already has it. Clyde Edwards, Allaire Kansas City. That offense from day one.
Mike Wright
So talk news and notes from around the league.
Jason Moore
Al, can we get a mustache hair into Jason's mug?
Mike Wright
Probably. I'll work on it through the show.
Jason Moore
Yeah, yeah. I don't have an almond, so we can go mustache here. All right. Deshaun Watson got paid. Whoo. Not a ten year deal, though. But he got a four year, $160 million extension. Good for him. Great player, outstanding player. We get to see him Thursday.
Mike Wright
It's the second highest, you know, contract of all times. We've between behind Pat Mahomes and it's $160 million, which just makes. When I saw that, I'm like, wow, that's the second highest. $160 million. And Mahomes got $500 million contract. That's just like. That is.
Alan Robinson
And the big thing to me that the takeaway one. Yeah. You had to lock Watson up. Excellent, great, great work by the Texans. Dak Prescott is sitting just on the side going, you should not have franchised me.
Mike Wright
Remember when they didn't want to pay him 30 million years ago.
Alan Robinson
The bill just keeps going up.
Jason Moore
If you're dak and you've had a strategy session with your agent and your team and you're like, yeah, let's just, let's just kind of hold on and see what happens. And the next thing that happens is a $500 million contract to Patrick Mahomes and a $160 million dollar four year deal.
Alan Robinson
And what's like, the really bizarre, like, funny thing about it is, so the Cowboys franchise them. I mean, he's making a lot of money this year. The Cowboys want him to do well. The Cowboys want to win games.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Alan Robinson
But winning games means that Dan Prescott's contract price just continues to go up. So it's.
Mike Wright
So the better, the better the Cowboys are, the worse the Cowboys are going to be.
Alan Robinson
It's, it's quite the quagmire going on in Dallas.
Jason Moore
Keenan Allen signed a four year extension. Now the second highest paid receiver in the NFL. DeAndre Hopkins, close to an extension. Alvin Camara, close to an extension.
Alan Robinson
I love it. Let's go.
Jason Moore
So that's, that's big. I mean the Alvin Camara one. I'll bring up this fantasy question for you. We know that Drew Brees is not going to play out whatever this extension is for Camara. He's not going to be around for however long this extension ends up being. How do you view him in dynasty formats? It's hard enough to value running backs. He's obviously a pass catcher. Breeze could retire after this season.
Alan Robinson
Sure.
Mike Wright
You know, when, when I'm in a dynasty league and you're going on to that second contract for almost every running back. I'm hoping to sell high. I'm hoping to get out of them because Camara still has an enormous amount of value. He's, you know, he was my running back four up until a week ago when, you know, the epidural news was coming out. He's, he's a phenomenal back. And when you sign an extension, that's when you can capitalize on them in Dynasty. If you could swap him for, you know, I mean, someone might trade Clyde Edwards Allaire for Alvin Camara. The unknown for the known. And I would do that in a heartbeat. So obviously he's good. I wouldn't be trading him for nothing. But if you can, if you can capitalize, now's the time. Because like you said, Andy, if the Saints, if Drew Brees leaves after this season, which I think is most people's expectation, it's Mine, at least. Then what is that team?
Alan Robinson
Are they going to Jameis Winston?
Mike Wright
Right. And are they going to be good enough with Winston? Probably.
Alan Robinson
And there was a little note. I don't know if you guys had caught it. But Camara reiterated the epidural. He said, I did this last year, too. So, yeah, hopefully we don't have to worry about that.
Jason Moore
All right. The Lions were the lucky winners in the Adrian Peterson sweepstakes, a one year deal with Detroit. He said, they're giving me the opportunity to play. I know. Matt Patricia is enamored with Adrian Peterson. So both Scarborough and injured reserve DeAndre Swift has been banged up. Kerryon Johnson has a perma brace. So Adrian Peterson could get some run here. He could in Detroit. Do you care in terms of like free agent acquisition, end of draft?
Alan Robinson
I'm not going after Peterson. It, I mean, it could affect how you feel about DeAndre Swift.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Did it move Swift down the board for you guys?
Alan Robinson
I didn't make a move. I already had him kind of, you know, that like RB2, RB3 area. Swift is the best running back on the team right now. But does that real? Does that really matter? Will that turn into enough opportunity?
Mike Wright
I've been off of the Detroit backfield entirely. Swift forever.
Alan Robinson
I've never been on for this for 2020.
Mike Wright
I haven't wanted to go in. I mean, we've talked about that, right? Like, who's going to be the first man up? Is it Kerryon? Is it Swift? It probably doesn't matter because they're both going to be involved now with Swift's injury. I started to, you know, we've had a couple drafts that have happened in the last couple days before the Adrian Peterson news and it was like, you know, carry on's a value there. He's going to be the clear starter to start the season that you're getting in late rounds now with the AP signing. I'm back that it was like a week, a week long blip.
Alan Robinson
A little fling.
Mike Wright
Yes. Just a little twist with my ex.
Jason Moore
You smell some of the perfume from last year.
Mike Wright
Exactly. But you know, it basically means I'm off of all three.
Jason Moore
So this was good for you.
Mike Wright
This was necessary.
Jason Moore
Adrian PETERSON Signing. Yeah. DeAndre Swift has been in the UDK bus all off season just from the perspective of a shared backfield in Detroit and what they're, you know, when I made the case for Matthew Stafford as a top five fantasy quarterback, it was because they've, they've entrusted him to be an aggressive, you know, pass first type of offense.
Alan Robinson
Lynn Bowden was traded running, running back, slash every position. Because we weren't sure what Lynn Bowden was going to be when he was drafted by the Raiders in the third round. What we know now is he will not be a Raider, a Las Vegas Raider. So they took their third round pick, tried to convert him to running back, and they said, how about Miami? We'll give you Bowden and a sixth round pick if you give us a fourth round pick for next year.
Mike Wright
Oops. Whoops.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And I. It failed. The Dolphins are looking at him as a wide receiver. I'd rather be the Cardinals trading Rosen for a second than the Dolphins releasing Rosen. So if it didn't work, there you go. But Lynn Bowden was somebody that people worried about, threatening Josh Jacobs as a pass catcher. And who was that other guy? That was brought up 400,000 times in my Twitter mentions, Theo Riddick. Theo Riddick, Yes. Who was cut.
Alan Robinson
He was.
Jason Moore
So now we have two fewer reasons to troll me, Mike, that's always a good feeling.
Alan Robinson
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So Josh Jacobs has every opportunity.
Alan Robinson
Before you ride off on that high horse, I will remind you that the two running backs behind Josh Jacobs are specifically, of course, you would pass catchers.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I know they are. But theoretically, isn't one of them.
Mike Wright
Is one of them named DeAndre Washington?
Alan Robinson
No.
Mike Wright
That's right. Because he is not on the team anymore. He was. So I'm on Team Jacobs. I think that the past catching work will be there this year.
Jason Moore
I know Mike doesn't understand what he started when he began trolling me with theoretic and the amount of people that just blitzed me. And I said, what did I say to you? Within five seconds of you telling me he signed, I said, I will bet you anything you want he's cut.
Alan Robinson
Yes. And I would not take that bet because.
Jason Moore
Because you knew me down the river. All right. Hey, it's a good day for me. Zach Taylor says AJ Green is full go. He'll be a full go on Sunday.
Mike Wright
For the first time.
Jason Moore
Hey, I can't say anything better than that. He's going to be a full go on Sunday.
Mike Wright
Will you start him? You drafted AJ Green. Are you confident to start him? Week one, he's AJ Green. He's a full go. Or do you bench him? Andy?
Jason Moore
I think based on what I've done in mock drafts and where I get A.J. green, I'm not always in the position to have to start him with the. With the price.
Alan Robinson
Right.
Jason Moore
So I would. I. If I needed to. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's anybody on your roster if you needed to. But like, if you're asking me to Sean Jackson or AJ Green in week one, I probably, probably play D. Jackson, see how AJ Is doing out there. But yeah, I'm willing to. He's just not very expensive in drafts. Golden Tate, sidelined, hasn't practiced since the final week of camp. Has a soft tissue issue. I would start Sterling shepherd in week one.
Mike Wright
I certainly would. I looked into Darius Slayton quite a lot this weekend because he was someone I was going to target for our league of record draft, which is the day before kickoff. Oh, that's tomorrow.
Alan Robinson
That is tomorrow.
Mike Wright
That's exciting to say. And I was looking at Darius Slayton for that draft and the more I looked into it, I saw. And he got injured like a week ago and I saw nothing on it.
Jason Moore
Talking about Slate.
Mike Wright
Yes, Darius Slayton. And I can't find any follow up news. I saw one person from that area who was a New York Giants Twitter account saying that they fear he could miss some time, but I haven't seen this anywhere. Anywhere. And so now hearing Golden Tate's hamstring. Sterling Shepard could very well be an awesome Evan Ingram. Yeah, Evan Ingram, certainly Evan Ingram. So I need to move him up.
Jason Moore
That being said, you might want to just watch it play out if you're not confident in the Giants against the Steelers in Week one. So Steelers defense, pretty, pretty solid.
Mike Wright
They're pretty good.
Alan Robinson
We did get a Super bowl pickup.
Jason Moore
Injury update Devonte Parker. So if you bought the dip on Devonte Parker with some ambiguity around his injury, he did return to practice today, so that's some good news. And we know Ryan Fitzpatrick is starting the season as the starter in Miami. So after all the doubt and fear and all that stuff, you end up with Devonte Parker and Ryan Fitzpatrick in week one.
Alan Robinson
So it is the Patriots.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So which worked out well the last time.
Alan Robinson
Yes.
Jason Moore
What else is going on? We have Debo Samuel. This is big news.
Alan Robinson
This is big news. The Debo Samuel off the NFI list. He is not on the short term ir. They. They're saying he could play. He is eligible to play. I am not starting Debo Samuel week one, despite the juicy matchup against the Arizona Cardinals. But this is, this is fantastic news. Like we were. I've been drafting Debo Samuel in that seventh, eighth round for a player that if he had never been injured, would have been a third, maybe a fourth round pick. The hype on Debo Samuel was real and it was warranted. He's an excellent player. So that's, that's very exciting stuff for Debo if you were drafting him later.
Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
Jalen Rager not placed on IR.
Alan Robinson
That's also very good news.
Jason Moore
Alshon Jeffrey, not placed on Pop.
Mike Wright
That was surprising to me. I mean, the expectation wasn't at all of our expectations. Every beat reporter that he would start the season on pup, which means, I don't know how many games.
Alan Robinson
Four, maybe.
Mike Wright
I mean, fewer than six. Right. Is at least their hope. Or their, you know, is probably their expectation. Definitely their hope.
Alan Robinson
Do you guys see there was some whispers that they're trying to trade him.
Jason Moore
Interesting. No, I did not. I did not see that.
Alan Robinson
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Good.
Alan Robinson
Unsuccessful.
Mike Wright
Good luck.
Alan Robinson
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Damien Harris, on injured reserve will miss at least the first three weeks of the NFL season for the Patriots. There was a lot of hype around Damien Harris. Right? Now. Just pay attention to this foot, Clint. Put him on your ir. You can. You can pick him up after your draft, throw them on your IR spot if you have it in your league, and at least wait and see how that backfield looks. Lamar Miller's been cut.
Mike Wright
We have given this tip many times before. I've used it this last week in drafts. But it's using your last positional pick to grab an IR eligible player. I've been grabbing Alshon Jeffrey left and right because he's there with my last pick. And then as soon as your draft is over, you throw him in on. On the IR and pick up a free waiver pickup that you probably could have drafted there anyways.
Jason Moore
All right. Brandon Cooks, limited in Monday's practice. We don't know a whole lot more, but they do play Thursday, so pay attention to that if you're going to start him on Thursday.
Mike Wright
That's a big deal. A quad injury as well, so. Soft tissue. You can't just say, well, the game's Thursday. We're good. Might be time to fly in formation. Ooh, that. That flying V. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, look, I've been on the.
Jason Moore
Brandon, you could be the Goldberg in all this.
Mike Wright
I. I assume that's a fat reference. I haven't seen the movie.
Jason Moore
You've.
Alan Robinson
You've never seen the Mighty Ducks? We've.
Mike Wright
I think I brought this up before, but it's. There's two movies that I'm ashamed I've never seen the Mighty Space, and I've never seen Space.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you got a problem.
Mike Wright
Those seem right up my alley. My age group, my everything.
Alan Robinson
So you don't Know what knuckle puck time is?
Mike Wright
So I've seen a couple clips in that, like, he puts the puck up on the side and. Yeah, yeah. So I do know that one.
Alan Robinson
Also, as anyone knows, if you saw that movie as a kid, you went home immediately. If you had a hockey stick, you're like, oh, I'm gonna check this out. It doesn't. The hockey puck doesn't actually do that.
Jason Moore
No.
Alan Robinson
It doesn't fly like a knuckleball.
Jason Moore
It doesn't perplex your friends, family, and everyone in the area into some sort of.
Alan Robinson
No, it just time war. You just.
Jason Moore
How many people went home and broke a window? I want to know the percentage of post Mighty Duck window breaks. That's got to be a lot.
Alan Robinson
It's got.
Jason Moore
It's got to be a handful of them. That's funny. But if you're new, I definitely tried that immediately and a lot. Yeah.
Mike Wright
If you're new and you don't understand the flying V reference, here it is. Will Fuller.
Alan Robinson
Will Fuller.
Mike Wright
Thank you. Will Fuller, the fifth.
Jason Moore
I thought he was going to speak as an authority on Mighty Ducks now.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
All right. Trey Burton's on injured reserve, tight end for the Colts. So get some starts out of Jack Doyle.
Mike Wright
100%, maybe.
Alan Robinson
Oh, is that a start of the week reference?
Mike Wright
I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to wait.
Alan Robinson
All your starts.
Mike Wright
All my starts of the week have been in since last week.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Good. Good luck with that. Travis Kelsey was limited in Monday's practice. Something to pay attention to. I read a few beat reporters talking about this. They were not concerned about his Thursday availability.
Alan Robinson
Zeus will play.
Jason Moore
There you go. Zeus always plays. And then Mitch Trubisky is officially named the week one starter.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Alan Robinson
Now, I've made illusions in the past that Matt Nagy feels like a budget store magician.
Mike Wright
Illusions or illusions?
Alan Robinson
Thank you, Jason. And then it all finally clicked and I was able to match up. Like, I finally figured out who Matt Nagy is, and he is. Job from Arrested Development.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Alan Robinson
Swinging. He's got the knife in his mouth and the cards just.
Mike Wright
And the 3,000 do suit on. Come on.
Jason Moore
I mean, we're. Here we are again. Oh, we forget that. I mean, the one thing about Trubisky, because I feel like we beat up on the Bears constantly on the show, whether it's warranted or not, it does happen. The thing about Trubisky is that you. You have seen elite fantasy games out of Mitch Trubisky.
Alan Robinson
It's.
Jason Moore
If he runs, it's not like Josh Rosen's experience in the NFL.
Mike Wright
He has to run boring and often against the Detroit Lions, who he always torches, who he's starting the season against.
Jason Moore
Yeah, well, this was not meant to lead towards someone starting Mitch Trubisky.
Mike Wright
That was not the goal DFS play.
Alan Robinson
But Trubisky has to run and they win games when he runs.
Jason Moore
So didn't he throw five touchdowns when you, when you were mean to him?
Mike Wright
I had. This was several years ago now and I had this now infamous moment where I boldly declared, and I would say rightfully declared that Mitch Trubisky is not a great quarterback and he will never ever be a franchise quarterback. And I was right. But then days later, he goes out and throws five touchdowns and murders my soul.
Jason Moore
Malcolm Brown's going to start week one for the Rams. At least that's the expectation. I don't think we'll see Darrell Henderson out there on the field. So at this point, Mike, Malcolm Brown could be a sneaky week one start for fantasy teams.
Alan Robinson
Yeah, I completely agree there. There were some things that have happened. So if you, your last positional player, maybe you drafted a player you could put on the IR and you're searching around your waiver wire, who should I be picking up? Who should I be stashing? Malcolm Brown is definitely in the discussion. He was, he saw quite a few goal line carries even last year when Todd Gurley was there. The situation in Jacksonville seems to have clarified at least a little bit. Where we didn't know. I mean, Chris Thompson's locked in. I still love him, but we didn't know. Is it going to be Rykel Armstead? Is it going to be Divine Ozigbo? Divino Zigbo? Is it going to be James Robinson? And it sounds like it's going to be James Robinson as of now. So if you have that last spot, he is 100% a player I think you should throw on the back of the bench and just see what opportunities happen. Week one, it will not shock me in the slightest if a week from today on the waiver show we're saying the biggest pickup the week pickup of the week is James Robinson.
Jason Moore
Malcolm Brown in week one last year.
Mike Wright
Two touchdowns in our dynasty league that we co own. Who has James Robinson?
Alan Robinson
We do actually. And we grabbed him right off the waiver wire.
Jason Moore
Well, here's an important thing for fantasy. You have to both move quickly to sign a player and react to news, but you also have to be willing to quickly take, you know, not take the l so to speak, but move on. Like, yeah, like when this news happened about Fournette, you had to go out and just grab Raquel Armstead. Everybody had to do it. Or and Chris Thompson if you hadn't and Divine and Devine potentially. But things have become more clear. So you have to, you can't be like, oh no, I just spent capital on Rykwell and I can't move like James Robinson is the guy to own right now.
Alan Robinson
Yeah. And to be clear, what happened to Armstead was he is actually. He's back on the COVID list. He was on it earlier in the, in the off season. Then he had a leg injury, so the team is not counting on him. You had head coach Doug Marone come out and he said it's going to be a while before Armstead is ready to play.
Mike Wright
They had him almost not at all through training camp when they, when they decided to release Leonard Fournette. Rayqual Armstead was not active, was currently injured and has missed most of training camp. He wasn't the reason that they were able to move on from Fournette.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And Judge Giamatti himself wanted us to remind everybody if you hadn't joined us when the COVID list was developed by the NFL and the nflpa. Just because a player has been put on the COVID list does not mean that they're positive for COVID 19 and have a prolonged time on the list. Oftentimes it could be we've seen false positives. It can also be if you were in the circle of somebody else that has Covid and you are quarantining for a period of time because somebody in your vicinity like we. If you've seen Hard Knocks or you've seen some of the behind the scenes of NFL camps this year, every camp has these watched style proximity alert things that they're wearing. And if anybody test positive in the organization, everybody that was within six feet of that person gets a notification. I think a lot of these cases are people that were within six feet of somebody that ends up testing positive part of staff and then they're being, you know, they're being careful about it. Now Reichwell might be a completely different story being back on there, but not sure yet. But just don't think that you're going to be without a player for weeks on end just because they go on to COVID 19 level.
Alan Robinson
Yeah, agreed. And then some other backup situations that have clarified. Let's say you're in deep leagues, dynasty leagues, what have you. The Panthers did release Reggie Bonifon Super Bonafon makes Mike Davis the. He looks like the clear backup right now to Christian McCaffrey and in Kansas City, DeAndre Washington was, was starting to build some buzz. The, you know, the previous connection to Patrick Mahomes, the past catching ability. They have released him. Darrell Williams is. As of right now, Darrell Williams is the backup to Clyde Edwards.
Mike Wright
He's another name that I would throw on that list of. Okay, you threw someone onto your IR and you're picking someone up off of waivers. He's in consideration to me of someone that just pick up and see what happens. Week one.
Jason Moore
Would you rather pick up Malcolm Brown and James Robinson ahead of him though? Yes, yes, you both would.
Alan Robinson
James Robinson would be my top choice. Then Malcolm Brown and then Williams.
Jason Moore
Get ready for the Malcolm Brown esque. Week one for Darrell Williams. Darrell Williams. Two touchdowns and half the snaps in week one and we're all going, oh wait, I want to see Clyde.
Alan Robinson
It could happen. Considering they've already, you know, said and this is to be expected that week 1. It might not just be 100% the Clyde Edwards of Lair show like you said, Darrell Williams could come in and get a couple rushing touchdowns, but I, we already know that's going to happen or could happen. Prepare for that to be a likely event and do not freak out. You've drafted Clyde Edwards.
Mike Wright
Do you remember Malcolm Brown's week one last year?
Alan Robinson
Yes, Andy certainly does.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Two touchdowns.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Top 12 fantasy quarterback. Oh, did you just say that? Yes, he did. Unbelievable.
Jason Moore
Second time in a row.
Mike Wright
Well, that's because I was looking, I was like, man, I think, I think he had a dominant week one. So I was looking at the slide and that's. It's hard to look and listen at the same time. Great, great information.
Alan Robinson
I couldn't listen to your Malcolm Brown take because I was too busy looking.
Jason Moore
Up Malcolm Brown developing my Malcolm Brown take. Hype train Eric Ebron, a lot of talk out of camp with him being used all over the formation. That's one piece of the equation. The hype and the talk and Ebron Ebron. The other part is that they chose to go with fewer wide receivers on game day because of Eric Ebron's flexibility to be able to use him, line him up outside. It is interesting. It's not like you have a stone cold locked wide receiver core full of production in Pittsburgh. You have Chase Claypool, a rookie. You have James Washington up and down. You have Deontay Johnson, first time he's playing with Big Ben and then you got Juju after the down year, juju should be pretty safe from a volume perspective. But here's Eric Ebron. Like, I'd rather take a shot at Eric Ebron in week one than I would Jack Doyle, because I want a chance at 25 points. And I think Ebron is that guy.
Alan Robinson
He definitely is. Especially when you look at the wide receiver core in. You know, juju is the number one guy. You don't have that locked in. This person dominates in the red zone. As good as juju is, that's not been where he has been really successful for the team. And it could be Eric Ebron. Just another flashback to his year with the Colts, where it was. He had like 10 receptions, but all 10 of them are touchdowns.
Jason Moore
All right, are there any huge roster cuts that you want to bring up outside the ones you talked about, Mike? I mean, DeAndre Washington was signed by the Chiefs this offseason. He was cut and put back on their practice squad. But we just talked about Darrell Williams, talked about Theo Riddick was cut. Trey Quinn was cut, wide receiver for Washington. Maybe that's a little butt tap for Sims in Washington.
Mike Wright
Hakeem Butler was cut for all the Dynasty Truthers. That was.
Alan Robinson
That didn't work.
Mike Wright
But he was also not picked up through waivers. So he was also, in addition to that, not resigned to the practice squad.
Jason Moore
And so he's not.
Mike Wright
So he's not.
Jason Moore
He's not really a Dynasty hold, then.
Mike Wright
That's. Yeah, I mean, I would move on.
Jason Moore
You see the packers picked up Robert Foster.
Alan Robinson
Yeah.
Jason Moore
From Buffalo.
Alan Robinson
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Thought that was interesting.
Alan Robinson
Speed. And then shout out to my man, Josh McCown, quarterback, who's been in the league forever. This dude is 41 years old, and he is now a backup for the Eagles. Except, you know what he has to do.
Jason Moore
It's amazing.
Alan Robinson
He gets to sit at home. I believe it's in Texas.
Jason Moore
Yes.
Alan Robinson
So he just hangs out, keeps in shape. And he's making like 12k a week to hang out. Josh McCown, you're my hero.
Jason Moore
That is the best job of all time. Cherry on the top of his career. It's so per. Like he deserves to sit at home with his family and make 12 grand a week just to be. And he could come in and probably play better than half the backups in football.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Alan Robinson
Yes, he could.
Jason Moore
Without any reps. Like he's. Practice squad. Wait, your practice squad. And you don't have to. You don't have to practice. No, you don't, Josh. Just be a dad. You're in your mid-50s or whatever.
Alan Robinson
They're just making sure, like if they need a quarterback, which Philadelphia has frequently needed a backup quarterback, they're saying, look, dibs. You can't go to another team.
Jason Moore
And, well, dibs is 12k a week, just for the record.
Alan Robinson
So. Amazing.
Jason Moore
That's incredible. All right, let's do some mailbag.
Mike Wright
Mailbag.
Alan Robinson
Mail bag.
Jason Moore
Yeah. All right, let's go to a voicemail. Question. By the way, if you have a question, you can go to the website thefantasyfootballers.com you can also dial the voicemail hotline 302-464-TFFB. We take a lot of questions, especially on the Wednesday shows during the season. So if you've got questions heading into the week, that's a great time to get them in. Let's go to a voicemail. Good morning, footballers.
Mike Wright
Greetings from New Hampshire. My name is Pedro and there's a.
Jason Moore
Lot of mouth to feed out in Arizona, I'm sure you guys know.
Mike Wright
So who do you think finishes the year better, Christian Kirk or Larry Fitzgerald? Four point ppr.
Jason Moore
Thanks, guys. Interesting.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I mean, I think we all have Kirk projected as that number two. He was actually pretty darn good last year. Then he got injured and had a slow, you know, coming back from injury was a little bit difficult, but he is the younger, faster, you know, he's the number two guy to me in Arizona. And I believe we saw that he was the number one last year when him and Fitz were both healthy. Now a year further, a year older for Fitz, I believe he's the number two.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's how we all have him ranked. But I will say this, I mean, last year, Larry Fitzgerald started the year on fire. I mean, he was the go to target to begin the year. He had the huge plays against Detroit to start the season. And as an older wide receiver, I mean, I've watched probably two hours of Cardinals camp over the last few days. Larry is featured frequently. Hopkins is just becoming a part of the offense. Kirk is great, but I would not be shocked in any way, shape or form if somehow Larry Fitzgerald is the better fantasy wide receiver through three weeks.
Mike Wright
Are you taking either of them in drafts?
Jason Moore
Andy, I have drafted Kirk with my second to last pick a couple of times and I. Larry doesn't have any upside. So if things go right for Christian Kirk, that could mean a lot for finesse. If things go right for Larry, it could mean what we saw at the beginning of last year where it's like you could start. He's a spot starter. Yeah, yeah.
Alan Robinson
Agreed.
Jason Moore
Let's go to another voicemail here. Hey, Volleys, this is Joey Farrell from.
Mike Wright
San Diego calling about a flex question.
Alan Robinson
Should I start the safety of Mark.
Mike Wright
Ingram or the shininess of Jonathan Taylor in Week one?
Jason Moore
Thank you. Yeah. The Colts have Jacksonville in Week one and Baltimore has Cleveland, and neither of those things matter at all because the answer is Mark Ingram.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I agree. I think that Jonathan Taylor has a situation where you can start him. If you need to start him in Week one, you don't need to start him. You have Mark Ingram, who you drafted to be a starter. The offense, they're heavy favorites at home. That's great for a running back. Marking room would be my start.
Alan Robinson
Agreed.
Jason Moore
All right. Tom and Poughkeepsie have to pick up a defense for week one. Would you rather hang on to Alexander Madison in case of a Cook injury or hang on to Malcolm Brown and see what he is after Week one? What would you do in that situation?
Alan Robinson
That's a very interesting question. If. If I have Dalvin Cook on my roster, I'm just going to eat it and I'm going to have the insurance. I'm going to have the backup. I'd rather have Madison. If I don't have Dalvin Cook, then I'm going to take the chance on Malcolm Brown, see if he comes out and he's, you know, 65% of the workload for the Rams, which is possible. And then look, if Ram. If Malcolm Brown hits for the Rams in Week one, you better see if anyone's tilting and ready to trade for Malcolm.
Jason Moore
I was going to ask that.
Alan Robinson
It's not season long for Malcolm Brown. It could be the first chunk of the season, though.
Mike Wright
I would keep Alexander Madison unless my running backs say, I need a guy who can start. You know, if I went heavy on wide receivers early and I'm like, man, I could really use someone in week two, Week three, that might need to be plugged into my lineup. But if either of these guys are going to be on my bench, feel like I'd rather have Madison for the. For the high upside.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah, you could be in that situation. If you're like, if you picked up David Montgomery in your draft or you have some right. Some needs for a spot start to.
Mike Wright
Start the year, then you'd want Malcolm Brown for sure.
Jason Moore
Yeah. All right. Richard in Nashville has a roster construction question. He says, how do you guys feel about having a quarterback and running back from the same team, specifically Russell Wilson and Chris Carson?
Mike Wright
I'm not a huge fan of it. I is funny when you said that, when you say specifically there are specifics that I'm super happy with and that's the heavy pass catchers. If it's Alvin Camara and Drew Brees, if it's the projected workload for Clyde Edwards, Allaire and Pat Mahomes. But if you don't have a running back that projects to be a heavy pass catcher. I don't love having the quarterback running back stack.
Alan Robinson
Yeah, it's not my favorite, but it's if you are confident about Seattle saying that Seattle's going to score a whole bunch of points, then it's not a complete detriment to your team.
Jason Moore
All right, another voicemail question. Hey ballers, this is Bethany in Detroit. With James Robinson now officially listed as Jacksonville starting running back, would you drop Zach Moss or Chris Thompson to pick him up or would you hang on to these guys for the potential upside? I know my answer. Jason, what do you think?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm definitely hanging on to Chris Thompson and Zach Moss. I think James, you know, he's listed as the starter, but I don't know necessarily that his upside is what either of those other two guys.
Alan Robinson
Yeah, you know who's listed as the starter in Washington? J.D. mcKissick.
Jason Moore
Is he really? Yeah, he's the RB one.
Alan Robinson
Well, yeah, he's listed as the starter but like this is and I'm sure my timeline is going to explode with that. I believe J.K. dobbins is like fourth on Baltimore's depth chart and the coach Harbaugh was very quick to say we don't make that list. Like that's this list is being put out by PR teams and so don't worry about depth charts completely. Like that's why the James Robbins thing is take it with a grain of salt. It might be Chris Thompson who is actually the starting running back for Jacksonville. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Were you disappointed that Carson or Thompson wasn't listed as the first on the depth chart?
Alan Robinson
No. It makes sense because of his role on the offense.
Mike Wright
The official depth charts right now are the most meaningless things that have ever been made. I was listening to Mike Fisher, He's a longtime 40 year beat reporter for the Cowboys. Talk about how irrelevant these things are. And he brought up do you know who the Dallas Cowboys have listed as the Titan one on their depth chart?
Alan Robinson
Oh yeah, the Blake Bell.
Mike Wright
Nope.
Alan Robinson
No. Schultz?
Mike Wright
Nope.
Alan Robinson
Who?
Mike Wright
Jason Whitten. That is who they have currently listed as their tight end. One they now to be clear, he.
Jason Moore
Does not play for them.
Mike Wright
That's true. He is a he is a Raider, so. And I just double checked to see if it was still true. It is still true. If you go to Dallas Cowboys, you.
Jason Moore
Know they have as their quarterback on the depth chart Goldberg the goalie.
Mike Wright
Here's the funny thing. So I didn't realize how crazy Mike McCarthy has been. We talk about Nagy and all his magic tricks. Mike McCarthy, this camp has been insanely secretive. He won't say anything. He won't.
Jason Moore
He doesn't actually know what's going on.
Mike Wright
I wouldn't doubt it, but like he won't name their punt returner. They won't say who's going to return punts because they want that advantage and this is purposeful. He said that there's. There's no tape on them yet. There's no film. They don't know what they're going to do. So we want to keep these secrets.
Jason Moore
Wasn't McCarthy the one that eventually in Green Bay was just getting massages in his office allegedly while other coaches took care of things?
Alan Robinson
I have not heard that.
Jason Moore
You didn't know that.
Alan Robinson
That was spicy story.
Jason Moore
No, that came out in the Aaron Rodgers like that. He kind of got to the point where he had other people doing so many different things that he would just get midday massages and stuff.
Alan Robinson
Sign me up.
Mike Wright
Well, I mean, look, he's watched every snap of film for the last couple years, except not at all.
Alan Robinson
I was getting a massage and then my final stamp back to the depth chart conversation. You know who the starter was for the 49ers last year at the running back, it was Tevin Coleman. For the whole year that did not matter.
Jason Moore
Probably will be this year for fantasy.
Alan Robinson
Raheem Mostert was the dude.
Jason Moore
All right, Richard in Nashville, how do you guys. Oh, I already asked that one. I meant Brady and Morton. He said, who do you guys think I should start week one as my RB2? So this is another Jonathan Taylor question, but it's Jonathan Taylor or Marlon Mack. Week one. It's a PPR league Week one for now. You know, just to revisit this, in case you weren't with us this off season, Frank Reich, he's come out. He said, both of these guys, we've got a one, a one a whatever language to say. They're both the starter. Week one, that's a tough decision because you don't want to be the person that started Marlon Mack and missed the Jonathan Taylor breakout. But I believe the right answer is probably probability wise. Marlon Mack.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's going to be Marlon Mack for me and here's the nice thing. If you are the guy that missed the Jonathan Taylor Week 1 breakout and you started Mac over him, you want to know the comfort you're going to have is that you have Jonathan Taylor.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
So you're going to be okay. And I would start Marlon Mack Week one.
Alan Robinson
I would start Taylor. I'd go for it.
Jason Moore
I have been in our League of Record draft, which we have on Wednesday, and we have been doing some mocks and we've been doing some thinking. And yesterday I shared with Jason how unhappy I'm going to be after my first two picks, no matter what I select. And there's a big keeper league and we have multiple firsts and stuff like that where we're. We're thinking about these decisions. But I found myself, I have actually cooled off on Jonathan Taylor a little bit. I had been rising up. You guys have been bringing me with you, but I've cooled a little bit in the belief that they really will use all three of those backs because they're all really good players. It's not like, you know, I don't know how good Justin Jackson really is in Los Angeles. And, you know, beat reporters are talking about.
Alan Robinson
I say that. That's a great point.
Jason Moore
Just really, Joshua Kelly.
Alan Robinson
Joshua Kelly is in that conversation of, you should throw him on the back of your.
Jason Moore
And I agree. And beat reporters around Los Angeles are saying that they don't expect Austin Eckler's carries to rise very much at all. So there could be about 200 carries on the table for Justin Jackson and Joshua Kelly. Jackson's healthy, he's going to play. But Joshua Kelly is another one of those guys. But like I'm saying, we don't know. Like, I know Marlon Mack. I've watched him play football behind this offensive line.
Mike Wright
He's really good.
Jason Moore
He's really, really good. Now, they didn't extend him. So the future is not Marlon Mack. But coaches care about the present as much as they do anything else, especially this year. No preseason time for Jonathan Taylor. I've just cooled a little bit. Not saying I wouldn't draft him, but the way my team was looking at the draft, I'd have to take him in a place where I'm starting him within three weeks. And I was like, I don't know if I want to do that. So there's a little hint into Wednesday, Mike, maybe I don't, you know, draft Jonathan Taylor.
Alan Robinson
All right.
Jason Moore
There for you. All right, David in Washington, where's a good spot to jump into a draft? League last minute. All my friends have bailed. So you are. You're in a pickle, David. The season is coming quickly.
Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
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Episode: Super Bowl Picks + Roster Madness, Draft Blitz
Release Date: September 8, 2020
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
The hosts kicked off the episode with enthusiastic Super Bowl predictions for the 2020 NFL season.
Mike Wright: Predicted a Pittsburgh Steelers comeback, emphasizing their elite defense and the return of Big Ben. He stated, “Vegas is expecting big things for the Steelers this year” (04:34). Additionally, Mike backed the New Orleans Saints from the NFC to reach the Super Bowl.
Jason Moore: Opted for a less conventional choice by selecting the Buffalo Bills to win the Super Bowl, highlighting their continuity under coach Sean McDermott and the development of Josh Allen. He remarked, “Bruce Arians is a really good head coach. He has the personnel to get them over the hump” (05:55).
Alan Robinson: Aligned with Mike in selecting the Steelers and the Saints, focusing on their defensive strengths and solid team structure. He confidently stated, “I have the Steelers making it. The defense was elite enough... and I'm taking the Pittsburgh Steelers to win Super Bowl” (04:05).
The discussion then shifted to potential MVP contenders for the season.
Mike Wright: Named Patrick Mahomes as his MVP choice, citing Mahomes' exceptional talent and consistent performance. He noted, “He's the best” (07:12).
Jason Moore: Selected Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills, tying his MVP candidacy to the team's projected success. “I'm going to go with Josh Allen. Obviously, I have the Bills winning the super bowl, having a great season” (07:35).
Alan Robinson: Backed Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints, believing his leadership and performance would carry the team. “I got Drew Brees... and I got Brees being the one carrying him there” (07:11).
The hosts deliberated on promising rookies for the Offensive Rookie of the Year award.
Mike Wright: Favored Jonathan Taylor, projecting a significant impact in his role with the Colts. “It's going to be Jonathan Taylor, who means far more to the Colts if he gets the opportunity” (09:03).
Jason Moore: Recommended Clyde Edwards-Helaire from Kansas City, citing his immediate role in the offense. “Clyde Edwards-Helaire for Kansas City. That offense from day one” (09:35).
Alan Robinson: Proposed Antonio Gibson, targeting a running back with dual-threat capabilities. “I'm going with Antonio Gibson” (08:53).
The episode covered a variety of NFL updates impacting fantasy football decisions.
Contracts and Extensions:
Mike Wright highlighted the significance of Watson’s contract: “$160 million, which just makes... second highest, behind Patrick Mahomes' $500 million contract” (10:07).
Team Changes and Injuries:
Jason Moore humorously discussed Adrian Peterson’s signing: “Adrian Peterson could get some run here. He could in Detroit” (13:26).
Roster Strategies:
Mike Wright advised on dynasty league strategies: “I'm hoping to sell high. I'm hoping to get out of them because Camara still has an enormous amount of value” (12:09).
Listeners posed questions concerning player starts and roster decisions, which the hosts addressed with strategic insights.
Christian Kirk vs. Larry Fitzgerald (4-point PPR):
Mark Ingram vs. Jonathan Taylor (Flex Decision):
Super Bowl Picks Stack – Russell Wilson and Chris Carson:
James Robinson vs. Zach Moss/Chris Thompson:
Jonathan Taylor vs. Marlon Mack (RB2 Start):
The hosts wrapped up with strategic advice on roster construction, emphasizing adaptability and responsiveness to emerging news and injuries. They encouraged listeners to stay active on the waiver wire and make informed decisions based on the latest updates.
Mike Wright concluded with a reminder to leverage community resources: “FootClan Leagues.com is a website that we've set up to bring all the Foot Clan members together” (49:37).
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