Fantasy Football - Super Bowl Reactions + Temp Checks, Offseason Begins! - Podcast for 2/10

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Super Bowl Reactions + Temp Checks, Offseason Begins!
Date: February 10, 2026
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

The Super Bowl is over, marking the official start of the 2026 fantasy football offseason. The Footballers share their reactions to the Seattle Seahawks’ Super Bowl win, break down Kenneth Walker’s surprising MVP performance, and dive into the shifting fantasy landscape now that the offseason has begun. They discuss roster moves, coaching news, dynasty temperature checks on trending players, and answer listener questions about tough dynasty and redraft decisions. The episode is packed with banter, deep-dive analysis, memorable moments, and the signature Footballers' energy.

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Super Bowl Reaction & Kenneth Walker’s MVP Performance

(Segments 01:23–14:36)

Game Thoughts:

• The trio watched the Super Bowl together.
• General consensus: “This was not an exciting ballgame.” – Andy Holloway (02:46)
• “Nobody out there is rooting for a three-nothing ballgame. That’s just not why we watch football.” – Jason Moore (03:01)
• New England’s defense impressed, but their offense and rookie QB Drake May struggled mightily, likely due to injury:
  “Drake May had the worst three-game run of the playoffs that we've seen in… ever.” – Andy Holloway (03:55) “Every throw was just off the mark. That injury has to be worse than we thought.” – Mike Wright (04:30)

Kenneth Walker’s Super Bowl & Fantasy Impact:

• Statline: 27 carries, 135 yards.
• “Kenneth Walker, everybody. 27 for 135… He will be immortalized.” – Andy Holloway / Mike Wright (04:54)
• With Charbonnet injured, Seahawks let Walker “be the guy” and he delivered.
• Huge offseason decisions for Seattle: JSN up for extension, Walker a free agent, large cap space to work with.
• Jason lauds GM John Schneider: “The only general manager now to build two different Super Bowl champions that shared no players and no coaches. That's an amazing job.” (05:16)

Notable Moment:

• The hosts waited for the MVP announcement, noting:
  “You see [Walker] standing back on the stage and you're like, he wouldn't be there if he's not the MVP.” – Jason Moore (08:04)

Fantasy Outlook for Walker & Seahawks:

• Charbonnet’s injury could open more lead-back opportunities, but Seattle’s tendency toward committees lingers.
• “If Walker comes back, are they going to tell him, ‘We’re not going to do what we did last year and keep pulling you off the field for touchdowns’?” – Mike Wright (09:12)
• Most teams operate in a committee; few true workhorse roles are open for free agent backs in 2026.
• The Footballers agree: If Walker’s not outpriced, Seattle is most likely his home.
• “The only way he leaves Seattle is someone [else] pays a lot.” – Jason Moore (09:49)

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Offseason Mode & Major NFL News

(Segments 15:05–22:23)

NFL Coaching Carousel & Adam Gase Returns:

• Adam Gase (former NYJ/MIA HC) returns to the NFL as a Chargers assistant (passing game focus).
• “Oh, it just feels like yesterday he was the OGB hole… Coming back to the Chargers to be an assistant.” – Andy Holloway (15:19)
• The Footballers poke fun at “rehabilitation” coaching arcs.
• They discuss the impact (or lack thereof) of coaching changes on QBs like Justin Herbert and Sam Darnold. Darnold credited his career resurgence to work under 49ers’ Shanahan (16:49).

QB and HC Musings:

• Sam Darnold likely to start for the Seahawks next year.
• Geno Smith heads to a rebuilding franchise after losing his job.

Notable Quotes:

• “I wonder if teams could… trade for one year so their young QB could go to the Niners summer camp with Shanahan.” – Jason Moore (18:04)
• “It’s just talent to me… that’s what you can bank on.” – Andy Holloway, about LA’s TE Gadsden (32:27)

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Fantasy Face Off & Shame Count Review

(Segments 12:53–14:36)

• Recaps their Super Bowl fantasy picks.
• Mike claims: “I sacrificed myself, clearly, so that Kenneth Walker could be the MVP.” (13:12)
• Jason details his bets on JSN, Walker, Hunter Henry, and Drake May.
• Shame count for the season: Andy – 8, Jason – 5, Mike – 6, Deucers – 1 (14:25)

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Dynasty Temp Checks: Player-by-Player Analysis

(Segments 28:40–41:53)

Sam LaPorta Outlook with New OC (Lions)

(28:40–30:59)

• Listener asks if Drew Petzing as OC gives Laporta a “sneaky shot” at TE1.
• Jason: “Trey McBride is maybe the most dominant receiving tight end currently alive. I don’t think this is a system fit, but Laporta is so good—touchdowns will be there.”

Ari Gadsden (TE, LA Chargers)

(31:00–35:39)

• Dynasty outlook: Talented, flashed during a four-game stretch, but vanished later—competition for targets is a concern.
• Mike: “My temperature is lukewarm… I can sell the hype now. The chances of it truly working are slim.”

Devon Achane (RB, Miami Dolphins)

(35:39–41:53)

• Listener asks: With new coaching staff and no Tua, how far will Achane fall?
• Footballers: All agree Achane is a difference-maker, regardless of scheme—but touchdowns may regress without high-octane offense.
• Jason: “He’s too good to be only scheme dependent. He’s established himself as Miami’s best offensive player.” (37:36)
• Mike and Andy debate dynasty RB rankings: Hampton and Achane close at the top, both still premium dynasty assets.
• Contract and landing spot discussed—Achane likely to command a big deal after rookie contract.

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Dynasty WR Dilemma: Marvin Harrison Jr. vs. Brian Thomas Jr.

(44:39–48:22)

• Listener asks: “Brian Thomas Jr. or Marvin Harrison Jr. next year?”
• Mixed answers:
  • Mike: “I’m going Brian Thomas.”
  • Jason: “I’ve got Marv a few spots ahead… He’s a great trade target since he’s seen as a bust and I don’t think he is.” (46:42)
  • Andy: “I thought I was going to say Marv, but I don’t know if that’s the right answer.”
• They break down each player’s 2025 production and injury impact; consensus: both WRs had disappointing, injury-plagued years, but Harrison has “clean slate” upside under a new regime.

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Key Dynasty/NFL Questions (Listener Mailbag)

(Segments 27:54–53:25)

• Steelers QB possibilities: Would you prefer Kyler Murray or Tua Tagovailoa as a quarterback to “win a Super Bowl”? No clear consensus, but slight lean toward Kyler for rushing upside.
• Dynasty RB landscape: Bijan Robinson, Gibbs, and Genti ranked above Achane, but the position has many question marks and rapid turnover.
• NFL coaching retreads: Why do so many recycled coaches appear in NFL jobs? It’s a combination of college coaches not wanting the grind and high stress of NFL life, skill set differences, and the instability of coaching as a career.

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Additional Highlights

Notable Quotes:

• “Most running backs are in some sort of committee. I don't think Walker is in the tier of Saquon [Barkley].” – Andy (10:39)
• “He [Kenneth Walker] was real fresh for the Super Bowl.” – Jason (20:28)
• “It’s probably detrimental to your franchise to bring [an aging Hall of Fame QB] back.” – Mike (25:14)
• “He’s too good to just, well get 87 targets, 85 targets… To me it’s touchdowns.” – Jason, on Achane (37:57)
• “I feel like this question was written by Mike.” – Andy, questioning an offbeat mailbag choice (48:27)

Entertaining Banter & In-Jokes:

• The “OGB hole” (Adam Gase) riff, references to “Lady G,” and off-season goofiness (06:09, 15:11)
• On Sam Darnold’s improvement: “Can I send my quarterback to Niners summer camp?” – Jason (18:04)
• #TripleGobble, shame count, Deucers Alley heckling (14:25, 28:01)

Dynasty Rankings & Platform Plug

• Jason: “I've got [Gadsden] as a top 12 dynasty tight end.” (34:43)
• All dynasty rankings & tools available in the Ultimate Draft Kit, which is currently in pre-order.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:23 – Show start & Super Bowl banter
• 02:56 – Super Bowl: Seahawks/Patriots and Ken Walker MVP
• 04:54 – Kenneth Walker’s Super Bowl, Seattle’s offseason outlook
• 09:49 – Free agency & committee backfields
• 12:53 – Fantasy Face Off, seasonal “shame count”
• 15:05 – NFL coaching news, Adam Gase's return
• 18:04 – QB development banter (Darnold/Shanahan)
• 28:40 – Listener mailbag: Laporta with new OC
• 31:11 – Dynasty temp check: Grande Gadsden
• 35:39 – Devon Achane’s future value
• 44:39 – Dynasty dilemma: Brian Thomas Jr. vs. Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 51:32 – NFL coaching retread discussion
• 53:25 – Episode close

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Summary

The Fantasy Footballers open the 2026 fantasy offseason with a well-rounded episode that delivers sharp Super Bowl analysis, actionable preseason dynasty advice, and plenty of laughs. From Kenneth Walker’s MVP ascension and Seattle’s bright off-season prospects, to dynasty shake-ups at RB/TE/WR, the show is a must-listen for fantasy players eager to get a head start on 2026 roster construction. The Footballers’ signature chemistry and honest takes make it equally entertaining for casual and diehard fans.

For full rankings, dynasty tiers, and deeper analysis, check out the Ultimate Draft Kit and join the #FootClan!

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

We can finally start 2026 season.

[Andy Holloway]

Andy, thank goodness for that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness. Put a bow on Mike Wright's season and let's just.

[Andy Holloway]

The year of Mike, it's over. It is finished.

[Jason Moore]

It is in the rear view mirror.

[Mike Wright]

But it did and you will never take it away from me, nor forget it.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, welcome in one and all. The super bowl is over. And just like Mike said, at the top of the year, Ken Walker will be the super bowl mvp.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, when I started the season with fantasy mvp, what I meant was Super.

[Jason Moore]

Bowl MVP was in your fantasy season.

[Mike Wright]

He will, he will not help you very much, but he will be the. He will be immortalized.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

Super bowl champion. Super Seattle Seahawks.

[Andy Holloway]

We all watched the game together at Jason's house. And you knew from the jump what Mike was going to be rooting for, which is one thing. Yeah, Ken Walker, mvp.

[Mike Wright]

Two, I would have taken a Hendo, but I knew he was not going to.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I knew you can't sometimes on the Year of Mike you would think everything you want could come true at.

[Mike Wright]

No, that's not how it is.

[Andy Holloway]

But when some things are, you know, they go against each other. Like Hindo and Walker can't both do it. So Ken Walker ends up the mvp. This was not an exciting ballgame.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, this, this game. Look, I got some flak and some support.

[Mike Wright]

It's.

[Jason Moore]

It's what happens every time you say anything wise. But the whole like defense. Look, defense is not as fun to watch as offense. That is an objective fact. I'm not saying that defense is can't be great or can't be fun to watch, but like nobody out there is rooting for a three nothing ballgame. No one ever. Like that's just not why we watch football. And so yeah, most of this game was pretty boring. It was two great defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It wasn't a Super Bowl. It was a regular bowl.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

An ordinary bowl.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was a, it was a.

[Andy Holloway]

Bad bowl, an average bowl. But look, it was just domination. And look, got a lot of flack criticizing the schedule for New England.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't look like they belonged, frankly. Their defense played great.

[Jason Moore]

Their defense was awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Drake May had the worst three game run of the playoffs that we've seen in ever. I ever, ever, ever.

[Jason Moore]

I genuinely believe that his shoulder is injured. I mean they said he took the shot pre game. You know that's going to be like an AC joint spray. So he's injured now. Presumably he got injured the last game. So that doesn't excuse all three of those games. Although he was up against really good defenses throughout the process. But Blizzard, all of his, you know, all of his throws this game were just like behind the wide receiver. Every throw was just off the mark.

[Mike Wright]

That's where, that's where it's like, man, he had the injury has to be worse than we thought because that even with schedule and strength of defenses and everything like Drake May was really accurate.

[Jason Moore]

His ball placement this year has been great.

[Mike Wright]

It was awesome. And he was not hitting on all cylinders and so that part's a little bit disappointing. But Ken Walker, Kenneth Walker, everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

27 for 135. The Seahawks will have like for fantasy purposes. There will be some big time decisions to make for them this off season. JSN up for an extension. I think Witherspoon, I think Kobe Bryant. I think obviously Ken Walker is a free agent. They will need to spend some money to stay.

[Jason Moore]

I believe they have on top 6 most projected cap space.

[Mike Wright]

So Schneider over there, that's your timing.

[Jason Moore]

Is doing excellent work. The only general manager now to build two different super bowl champions that shared no players and no coaches. I mean that, that's, that's an amazing job and should I have to flee the Arizona Cardinals? Oh, are you considering it now they're up for consideration.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, I'm sure you'll have to. It is a special weekend.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Okay. Gaga.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

I'm in off season mode.

[Andy Holloway]

No, we all are. We all. Yeah, we. We're still doing the show but man we are in off season mode. We will have the free agency and the draft and all that stuff is on the way. But brand new Ultimate Draft Kit app. Right. The Dynasty Pass and all of our Dynasty startup rankings and team opportunity charts and all that early access stuff available@ultimate draftkit.com they are alive. If you pick it up before March 1, you will be entered to win a listener league spot to play with us. It is the lowest price you can get on the UDK or UDK plus. And then if you're an Ultimate Foot Clan supporter, you didn't have to do nothing and you're.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So ultimate draft kit.com if you want to grab that, that's where you can go. Anything else from the big game you guys want to talk about?

[Jason Moore]

Obviously, I mean Charbonnet being injured was pretty good news for Seahawks fans that finally let the team say hey Ken Walker, what. What happens if we give you 27 carries. Oh, good things. And you win a Super bowl mvp? There was a. Andy wasn't joking towards the second half of the game. There was only at that point when it kind of looked like okay, this is going to be the Seahawks. We just got to let it play out. The only thing anybody is watching for is is can can Walker get Super bowl mvp? Darnold throws a touchdown and you're all upset because now Darnold we got pretty by.

[Mike Wright]

I got pretty nervous. That is like okay.

[Jason Moore]

But then later you give it to.

[Mike Wright]

Darnold but he's completed 50% of his.

[Jason Moore]

Passes in the fourth when Kenneth Walker rips off that 50 yard touchdown run.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man.

[Jason Moore]

And you're like celebrating and it's like it. I mean at that point it's over 200 all purpose yards. You know, one of the only two touchdowns in the game. And then it got called Back on a flag. So then the game is over. We're just waiting and you just, you see him standing back on the stage and you're like, he wouldn't be there. He wouldn't be there if he's not the mvp. That was just fun time.

[Andy Holloway]

Talk to me about Kenneth Walker. Instant reaction for fantasy 2026. I mean, Charbonnet's injury is significant. He's a part of the committee, but won't probably be full strength by the start of the season. If Walker's under contract for Seattle, which I think is a possibility. You talked about the cap space. He said he wants to be there. Is he did this playoff run, the injury to Charbonnet change the entire landscape for how he's going to be drafted?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you do have, you'll have a new oc. Clint Kubiakubiak was the Raiders, which, I mean, there's, there's no way they put Genti in something like that, right?

[Andy Holloway]

A committee.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

You don't like, you know, like, Walker was always a, there was always other running backs up there for Walker, but he was, I mean, this was his like lowest rushing share. And for him, he'll have to decide does. Well, money, number one. Money talks. But let's say money is all pretty relative in the same. Does Walker want to be in a, in a timeshare or if they are, will they tell him, hey, if you come back for this money, we're not going to do what we did last year and keep pulling you off the field for touchdowns. Because guys want yards, but players want to score. Offensive players want touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Kenneth Walker and money. If he's given equal money everywhere and he knows he's going to be in a timeshare in Seattle, he will still come back. They just want a Super Bowl. This is his home. Like, that's, that's where he wants to go. The only way he leaves Seattle is someone pays a lot of money, which he very well might have just earned.

[Mike Wright]

That payday from someone just went up.

[Jason Moore]

This is a very down rookie draft class for running backs. So far of what I've seen from pundits my scouting, there's like only two running backs I really like. Last year was like chock full of great rookie running backs. This year it's a weaker draft class, which means these free agents are going to have heavier bidding when free agency opens here in a month. And because GMs can't just look to the draft and say, ah, I'll take one of these 1012 guys that I like in the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

There's only a handful of players that are true obvious, only show in town running backs. I mean the Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, like most running backs are in some sort of committee. I don't think Walker is in the tier of Saquon. I don't think a team is going to pay him like that. So I think he's got, he's going to run the risk of. I mean, Bijan Robinson spent time in a pretty heavy Tyler Algier committee. If you have a player that you have confidence in like they do with Charbonnet, that's going to happen. And you got to remember going into the year, the context for Ken Walker multiple seasons of constantly being banged up and injured. He avoided that this year. You look at, you're like, oh my gosh, maybe it's because they gave him a bunch of time off the field. You know, it's like they're certainly not going down.

[Jason Moore]

They're certainly not going to try to change things. After winning the super bowl in a wholesale fashion.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, last night Holani was on the field plenty of times, much to Mike's chagrin.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, just I'm looking at the box score of Holani had three touches. I felt like he was out there way more than that. But maybe it's my paranoia, but for the timeshare it just comes down to will Walker get the high value touches. And I mean I feel like if he goes back that eventually it will still. I think they'll fall back into the old habit of giving like Sharps is bigger. We need the bigger guy at the goal line.

[Andy Holloway]

There's not that many teams that you could say are going to go out, spend the money on Walker and bring him in to be the main guy. There just aren't that many teams with those kind of opportunities. You know, you could look at maybe is New Orleans going to move on from Camara at some point? I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

You've got Washington, we know has a hole there.

[Mike Wright]

We just, we just need six.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I'm, I'm looking at these teams. There's just not a lot of those opportunities out there in Seattle's. They want it all. They'll bring them back. I think. I think they'll bring them back. Final week of Fantasy Face Off. Just giving you the rundown of the way the season ended up in our final Super Bowl Fantasy Face Off, Mike ended up losing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I did over on Price Picks, but I. I did what I had to do, America.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You said that you took the.

[Mike Wright]

I took the. Less on. On Walker's Rushing Yards 1. Because I thought the. The number of getting to, you know, the almost 80 rushing yards. It's like that. The Patriots defense is.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't doubt my guy, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

They're very, very good. But it was simply. I sacrificed myself, clearly, so that Kenneth Walker could be the mvp. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And you did a great job at that.

[Jason Moore]

Mine went pretty well. I had JSN less than 91 and a half receiving yards. That was great. Kenneth Walker over three and a half targets. That was great.

[Mike Wright]

One overthrow from not looking very good, though. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then what's. What's crazy, though? I knew Hunter Henry. I had him at five targets. It was. It was the line and he hit five targets, so I knew that one would wash.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

So I was curious how much cash I won because my other one was, you know, less yardage on Drake May.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

You mean when I went this morning, 300 yards, it was like.

[Jason Moore]

Wait a. Wait a minute. Wait. Because halfway through that game, 3/4 through the game, I mean, Drake May's done nothing. Are you sure? Wait. He threw for 295 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

He had 56 yards in the third quarter.

[Jason Moore]

It was. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I didn't even. I didn't count the garbage time in my mind.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But I was blown away when I. So I went. I went to two or four.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was two or four as well, Mike. I think you were one of four. The official shame counts for 20, 25. I was shamed eight times.

[Jason Moore]

Congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

You are the winner, Jason. Five times, Mike. Six times, including the Super Bowl. I guess the. Oh, the Deucers were shamed one time.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, week 12.

[Andy Holloway]

So, yeah, the way the season started, I was feeling good. Mike was three out of the first four.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I hadn't engaged the year yet.

[Andy Holloway]

But then I went on a heck of a run, boys.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then at the end of the year, I took time off as well. I need to fix the middle of the season. But. Yeah, remember, hashtag triple gobble. Those guys. All right, let's talk some news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league. He's back.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, crazy eyes.

[Mike Wright]

The OG B hole after the OGB Hole.

[Andy Holloway]

Indeed, the OGBH that would be Adam Gaze. He is back in the NFL after a five year hiatus. Oh, it just feels like yesterday he was the OGB hole. Yes. Coming back to the Chargers to be an assistant. Focused on the passing game.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. This is the plays are being called.

[Mike Wright]

By Mike McDaniel and normally it's other reporters who catch strays on this show.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, you got a new favorite.

[Mike Wright]

It's. I mean, it's Rapaport, but this is a tweet that Rapaport put out. Adam Gase has worked with quarterbacks such as Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler and Sam Darnold, setting records with Manning as OC now we set to work with Justin Herbert. Like you're, you're now giving Adam Gaze credit for the time that he spent working with Sam Darnold. It didn't go well. Sam Darnold was a catastrophic bust of a pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And now you're just going to, oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Super Bowl Wilson, don't forget Zach Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, it's like, what are we doing here? That's nonsense.

[Andy Holloway]

We're just tweeting. He worked with him, just tweeting away.

[Mike Wright]

Almost. He almost ruined the man's career.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's back.

[Mike Wright]

Like he had to go to hell and back and reform everything.

[Jason Moore]

It's funny listening to Darnold talk about what, what happened for him in his career. He said, you know, he got off to a hard, tough start.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think?

[Jason Moore]

And he said it wasn't until he got to San Francisco for a year and worked with Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan that he, that he figured it out. He gave them tons of credit, basically.

[Andy Holloway]

Saying Shanahan, but he brought up gays and how influential he was.

[Jason Moore]

He was influential in the other way.

[Mike Wright]

It was like, I've seen this one. So he was giving credit to Shannon.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Basically, quarterbacks need to be well coached when they come out of college.

[Andy Holloway]

Just ask Caleb Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they need to be. There are good ones and bad ones to teach them or to just assume. Oh, yeah, okay. You know what you need to do? Go be a star. And obviously it's, it's just like the quarterback position. There aren't 32 guys out there that can really take these quarterbacks to the next level. But when, when Darnold got with Shanahan, that happened. And so three years in New York.

[Andy Holloway]

Two in Carolina, one year in San Francisco with Shanahan, then the great season in Minnesota and then Seattle as a Super bowl champion.

[Jason Moore]

I wonder if teams could trade like, like a rental. Can I send like a draft pick? You get a second round quarterback or a late first round quarterback, and it's like, I'm going to trade him to the Niners.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, like a training for one year.

[Jason Moore]

You get them for one year and we'll give you a fourth round pick and then we get them back. Like, you know what I mean? Just go train under Shanahan.

[Andy Holloway]

Like sending him to a summer camp.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Wright]

The Darnold thing is, it's insane. Like if JJ McCarthy doesn't tear his meniscus. His.

[Andy Holloway]

The rookie year, do we know this happen? Yeah. Does any of this happen?

[Mike Wright]

It's not like this.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, based on how JJ played, yes, it would have.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I'm saying, like. But. But at that point now you're like, how many games played have they lost? You know, and we're like, okay, we got to put Darnold in. Just.

[Jason Moore]

What you just said is that if JJ wasn't injured early enough in his rookie year.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

That this year the Vikings would have won the championship.

[Mike Wright]

Quite.

[Jason Moore]

Because the second half of the year from Donald, they'd be like, we got to sign this guy. He would be their quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, by the way, I don't. I think Donald's going to be their quarterback next year. Yeah, I think he's going to end up. I don't think. Remember, if he failed in the playoffs, maybe he wouldn't be.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he did.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

And it is official now. Geno Smith went from the first place super bowl champion team to the first pick in the NFL draft team. Good job, Gina.

[Andy Holloway]

And lost a starting opportunity. Now it'll go to Clint Kubiak and Fernando Mendoza. Mendoza will be the number one pick. It is a. I mean, Kubiak, masterful job. Bowers, Genti Mendoza. That's fun. Doesn't sound like Max Crosby wants to hang around, but we'll see.

[Jason Moore]

It's really cool. I know that Kenneth Walker was in a timeshare and we don't necessarily love that, but I don't know that that's a Cubes thing versus more of a philosophy of the head coach. Cubes has a great run system and so Genti now with Kubiak coming in, I'm really excited to see that.

[Andy Holloway]

Spend every pick you have. That isn't Mendoza on the offensive line. You need it for Genti, you need it for Mendoza. Just solidify that. Do whatever you.

[Jason Moore]

Look what the Bears did.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. What Chicago did in the off season. That's what you got to do.

[Mike Wright]

That's a tough division because you. Two years ago, Walker was 76% of running back attempts in games played and he was down at 50% this year.

[Jason Moore]

It'S probably the fact that he couldn't stay healthy.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the health, man. It's the health.

[Jason Moore]

And now all of a sudden, he did stay healthy and was real fresh.

[Andy Holloway]

For the Super Bowl. Look, Ken Walker is a very good running back, but he's also played a lot of years and there are weaknesses in his game. And so I think that's what they loved about Sharbs. Sharps was like the guy that goes in and just. Yes, he's not. I know he's not explosive and he's. And that bothers us in fantasy, but he's just like, he does the job. He knows all the rules. He gets a lunch paddle guy.

[Jason Moore]

He knows all the rules.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, like, Ken Walker's biggest.

[Jason Moore]

He could ref this game, man. He's so good at knowing the rules.

[Andy Holloway]

I said that that one is down, not correct.

[Mike Wright]

I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

But, like, I don't think it's.

[Mike Wright]

It's Walker. Like, it's not impossible to me that someone pops up on the Raiders and we're like, why do they keep giving him the touchdowns?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we're not going to. I mean, is your year over with yet? I won't doubt you.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Isn't.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

The Cowboys are expected to place the franchise tag on George Pickens.

[Mike Wright]

Is the. Is the only way forward I have, no matter what.

[Andy Holloway]

I have heard that he. I mean, he may tag and trade. It could be a tag and trade. So we'll see. Cliff Kingsbury's joining the Rams.

[Jason Moore]

So smart. You wily devil.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you'll get all the credit for McVeigh.

[Jason Moore]

Cliff Kingsbury joining the Rams as soon as Stafford announced that he is back at the hall of Fame, the NFL Honors event, and Cliff Keesbury, unrelated head coach in 2027.

[Mike Wright]

Yep, it's happening.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that. Yeah, the opportunities weren't. I think you would have. I think if it wasn't just like Arizona and the Raiders sitting as the final two teams with the job, he might have gotten one this year. Just. He's not going back to Arizona. We know that. And then Tom Pellissero, your favorite dude, says the odds are increasing that Aaron Rodgers returns.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, boy.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you got to come back and.

[Mike Wright]

Play a year with oh, boy, Coach.

[Jason Moore]

So I got to look those articles back up. I just remember when that falling apart happened, the articles that were written about the packers and just how much problems there were with McCarthy and Rogers. I don't remember it anymore, but now it seems like it's all fine.

[Andy Holloway]

There was some finger pointing in the media, but I don't think that. I think the length of time that they had together as quarterback and coach was maybe not so bad. We'll see. We know that McCarthy said he wants him back, so I mean, it was one of the first things he said. What is the best scenario for your quarterback? Is it Rogers coming back? Yep, that's the best scenario because the.

[Mike Wright]

Depth chart is Mason Rudolph and Will Howard.

[Andy Holloway]

I think some people want to see some Will Howard out there. I don't know. We'll take a break. We'll come back with some mailbag.

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[Mike Wright]

It's probably detrimental to your franchise to bring him back.

[Jason Moore]

The two quarterbacks that are available on the market for a team like the Steelers and I. I genuinely have a question for you guys that I think we should think through because it's Kyler and it's Tua. Right. Kyler and Tua are currently not free agents, but they're available. They're not going to be the starting quarterback for their respective franchises. At least that's the expectation right now. Who's better to win a Super bowl between.

[Mike Wright]

I'd say if given those two options, I would trade for Mac Jones.

[Jason Moore]

But Kyler and Tua.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyler over to.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's Tua over Kyler. I mean, other than the head injury. I mean, that's the big. The big worry there.

[Mike Wright]

But just the play deteriorated.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, I'll take the running game of Kyler. If you want to call both of them insufficient pocket passers. I'll take the one that can scurry around.

[Jason Moore]

One of them literally led the NFL and passing yardage a couple years ago. Yeah, well, I don't think. Ineffective.

[Mike Wright]

And one of them is doing the same Darnold right now.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, for San Francisco. Former glory is not the debate here. Both have had former glory. You're talking about two teams that want to get rid of these dudes. They know the numbers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

They don't go, hmm, he was the leader in the league. Why are we getting. I mean, they both suck now. That's the problem. I mean, did you watch two of last year?

[Jason Moore]

I guess not enough.

[Andy Holloway]

You probably threw up your dinner.

[Jason Moore]

I think someone had to get this, you know, had to fall on the sword. When you're losing games and having issues.

[Andy Holloway]

The crappy players do.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, Kyler, first three years of the league, unbelievable seasons. It's just, golly, 809 rushing yards in a season where he threw for 4,000. What happened?

[Jason Moore]

He was going to be a star.

[Mike Wright]

Don't know, man.

[Jason Moore]

Cowardice. Cowardice and call of duty.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you telling me that if you had to choose a starter for theirs and a Cardinals next year, you would choose to a tongue of I lower Jason?

[Jason Moore]

No, I wouldn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Over Kyler?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't. I was specific to the Steelers. I think the Steelers have a better defense and a better franchise and I think they are. I think they're set up better for Tua's skill set than Kyler's.

[Andy Holloway]

But you could be right there. I didn't. I thought you were Just talking about moving forward with those guys. Mike, we're getting in the mailbag. All right? We've got a ton of questions from the people. We're into the off season, so who knows what these questions are going to be, but let's go.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to tell you. I'm going to be honest with you. I had no idea if I had hit the mailbag drop yet.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was really.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a real 5050 for me, whether I was hitting it for a second time and was going to get lit up on the show. I'm looking over to Dooser's Alley, like going, is he going to give me a list? I saw you looking at me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, dude.

[Andy Holloway]

I was like. And then I realized it was the ad break I had hit.

[Mike Wright]

I knew exactly what was happening.

[Andy Holloway]

You did.

[Mike Wright]

And I was not going to bail you.

[Jason Moore]

No, I knew you weren't. I knew it. I knew there was a chance you guys are going to mock me for.

[Andy Holloway]

Hitting it twice, but that's off season mode. That's what we're in. All right. If you have a question for the show, you can always send it in to us. Go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. you can dial the voicemail hotline 302464, TFFB if you want to. We got a voicemail question to start us off.

[Mike Wright]

What's up, ballers with my Lions hiring your blobfish, aka Mr. Clean, you think LaPorta if healthy, has a sneaky shot at tight end one.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so this is in reference to Drew Petzing being the new hire for offensive offensive coordinator for the Lions and the fact that Trey McBride just had a career season for the blobfish.

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't think that this is A. Trey McBride is not a Drew Petsing system situation. Trey McBride is maybe the most dominant receiving tight end currently alive. So when you inherit a team where you've got a disappointing Marvin Harrison at the time, you know, it wasn't Jerry Rice as the wide receiver too. It was Trey McBride as your main focal point for the offense. So, yeah, you build a McBride's text.

[Andy Holloway]

To LaPorta though the second that he got petsing, McBride texted LaPorta and said, you're going to love it, you're going to eat.

[Jason Moore]

I'm sure some of that is true. But the target competition, I mean, you've got almond Ross St. Brown there. First of all, that's.

[Mike Wright]

Trey McBride was the leader more percentage of the target.

[Jason Moore]

Trey McBride was the target leader for the Cardinals by a wide margin. That's not even in the realm of possibility for Laporta.

[Andy Holloway]

The thing that I would counterpoint you with just for the sake of conversation is that Sam Laporta was the number one overall tight end before and it wasn't on targets, it wasn't getting targets like McBride. It was on touchdowns. He had 10 touchdowns in his rookie season, ended up number one at the position. He does have double digit touchdown upside. He did say sneaky shot at tight end one. It's not going to be likely when competing with the high target guys. But if you told me next year Sam LaPorta scores 13 times or something. Yeah, that's not outside the realm of possibility certainly.

[Jason Moore]

I mean the offense and being able to score touchdowns. Laporta is a very good player. I guess I'm just saying I don't believe that it is simply a scheme fit from Petsing. I don't think Petsing is going to come over and do what he did with the Cardinals scheme with the Lions scheme. The Lions are a run first team with Almond Ross St. Brown as the possession receiver that that's not going to wholesale change. Obviously the touchdowns could be there.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we'll go on to another question here from YouTube. Hey, ballers, love the show. What is your guys temperature check on tight end Grande Gadson? Is that the nickname Ariana Grande Gadsden? What is the temp check on Gadsden? I think it is. I would say that it's an interesting player to talk about. I'll put it there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Especially for dynasty leagues. 22 years old, had a stretch run as a rookie where he in a four game stretch he had 377 receiving yards which would be the most for any rookie on a four game stretch of all time.

[Andy Holloway]

But he had the MVP at quarterback, right?

[Jason Moore]

That's right. He did have a one vote MVP getter. He's a fascinating conversation because he passed the film test, the eyeball test. He was so big and fast and we all. Yeah, I mean is. We all fell in love right away when it looked like a breakout was happening and then he kind of vanished and poofed away. Now you have some injuries that caused his emergence but is Keenan Allen back? Is Keenan Allen gone? Obviously Quentin Johnston disappeared for a little while while Gadsden was good. I don't know that there's enough similar to Laporta. Is he going to be able to be high enough in the pecking order with lad McConkey and just talent.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just talent to Me, you know that that's what you can bank on. You have a new offense with a new offensive coordinator.

[Mike Wright]

McDaniel is where.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean you have no offensive line last year. You. Not a lot of what you saw on the field from that offense is going to be repeatable moving forward, I think for Los Angeles. So that doesn't mean that Gadsden breaks out or doesn't. But I will say that what he was capable of doing in that stretch was super impressive to me. And if an offensive coordinator like McDaniel has the ability to do what he did with Darren Waller in late stages of career, to be able to use Johnnu and turn him into a superstar at the end of a season, I think McDaniels is going to look at him and say this is a special unique athlete I can use in some capacity.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he really is. And I will say that even though it started with the Quentin Johnston injury in week six, there's always the. I mean there's the opportunity that a player misses a season and when you've got a tight end that can be that athletic and fill that void, certainly because week six he missed and that was basically the breakout week for Gadsden. Seven receptions for 68 yards. And then the next two weeks Cuuge was back. But this was right off the injury. It was 7 for 164 and a touchdown and 5 for 77 a touchdown. So if huge were to go down.

[Mike Wright]

What a three game run and then just gone.

[Jason Moore]

Well, then the next game, 5 for 77. The next game after that, 5 for 68. I mean he, he's. He's really good. I don't know why it went away. I don't know if it was the offensive line, injuries or.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that was a lot of it. They had to play more blocking type of tight ends. I mean my temperature is luke room. It's like a room temperature. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Is he's in your dynasty pass trade away candidates?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, because I think like I can sell Gadsden. Like I can. I can make some hype and explain why it's a great opportunity, which I feel like that is you can make it like you can sell the hype right now. I mean it's not like overwhelming hype, but there's in dynasty people are paying attention. You can sell that as opposed to, I think the chances of it truly working.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm curious where you guys had them ranked. We obviously just put together our dynasty rankings for the ultimate draft Kit. Those are out. You can look at them. I've got my rankings pulled up in front, but I've got him as a top 12 dynasty tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm pretty optimistic. If I had to shoot my shot, I would go get him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I have him at 8.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's 20. He's 22 years old. And again, we're looking through this filter of strictly the fantasy production. A lot of the times he had that run, you remember he got banged up, then it got cold for a little while. But you have some nice games mixed in there towards the end of the season. 61 yards, four catches. The athleticism at 22 years old, to me it screams weapon.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I guess. I guess I lean a little bit more on the buy side. But, you know, sometimes you watch a tight end and you say you just make a decision. Got a couple good ones coming out in the draft this year too.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So we'll be having this conversation again. It should be. Should be pretty fun. All right. On the other side of Mike McDaniels, Nasty writes in and says, how far will the mighty Devon Achan fall? 24 years old, entering the final year of his rookie contract. No more Tua Tongue of Iloa. No more Mike McDaniels.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Do I keep saying it?

[Mike Wright]

You do.

[Andy Holloway]

You keep.

[Mike Wright]

He's got it.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got it. Mike McDaniel. Yeah, he's got it.

[Mike Wright]

In my head, it's Mike's McDaniel.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. It's Mike's McDaniel. Thank you. He wasn't his year so much as it was your year.

[Mike Wright]

HN is a very difficult evaluation right now versus Startup ranking, versus Dynasty ranking. We've seen enough. HN is a difference making running back.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a star.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he's a star player. But things, things change all the. When all of a sudden someone else is getting your goal line carries or you know, this, your. Your high value.

[Andy Holloway]

Talking about Ollie, goal line junior.

[Mike Wright]

That. Yes. Like these things can be changed up with a new coaching staff and new philosophy.

[Andy Holloway]

Where is he in your Dynasty Startup rankings?

[Mike Wright]

Let me go, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

At running back within the running back position. I have him as my running back seven, which is below.

[Andy Holloway]

You have him behind Hampton?

[Jason Moore]

I. I have him behind Hampton.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I have him at 4.

[Jason Moore]

He's at that. That's I think where he's at 3.

[Mike Wright]

But I see Hampton right there and that. That's a. If I had to pick, if I'm going to start up draft, Hampton or hn. That's brutal.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think this is one of the situations where my Advice on HN will be not far and ignore the noise. Yeah, that's the direction I think I'm going to go with a superstar like this. He is, he's that good man.

[Jason Moore]

He is too good to be only scheme dependent. He has established himself as the best offensive player on the Miami Dolphins. So whatever coach comes in, it doesn't matter who it is, you're going to look at your roster and say, well, who am I building around? You're going to build around hm. Period. Like full stop. He's, you're, he's too good to just.

[Mike Wright]

Be like, well get 87 targets, 85 targets.

[Jason Moore]

So that's the. To me it's touchdowns. Touchdowns is the big deal. If you look at his end of season, okay, the last three games you had no tua. That was when Tua got benched and he was still very good, but he didn't get any touchdowns during that stretch. You're talking about running back 13, 15, 18. If you're the running back 13, 15, 18, every single week, you're having a great season, but you're not a difference maker. The games before that, when he was with Tua, he was the running back 2, 7, 4, 8. You know, he was more of a top end, high production guy getting touchdowns as well as yardage and passes. So will he be super involved? Yes. Is he extremely talented and will score a ton of fantasy points? Yes. Will, without TUA and a new system, in what looks to be kind of a rebuilding year for the Dolphins, will he be able to be like a top four running back in fantasy? I'm doubtful. And then what happens at that point as a free agent? Where'd you go?

[Andy Holloway]

He is the most consistent running back in football from a like he 100% of his games this year. Yeah, he's an A this year and the team sucked most of the season. The nice thing about him. What box do you want to check with a running back?

[Jason Moore]

Pass catching?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Can he catch the belt? Can he catch the ball? Can he break a long touchdown? Oh, just all the time. Just all of the time. You know, this was somebody people really, really doubted drafting highly in drafts going into this year and whether it was going to work. So it'll be, it'll be interesting. I don't know who their quarterback's going to be right now. Is it going to be Quinn Ewers? I don't know if that's where they're going moving forward. Which teams are tanking for Arch?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And who do you, do you bring in do you? Yeah. Do you roll with yours? Do you bring in a bridge quarterback? And it's a mobile guy and then all of a sudden you're like, oh crap, is HN going to get 40 to 50 targets? It's a big deal.

[Andy Holloway]

To expand the conversation, you look at the Dynasty startup rankings at running back, right? And the three I have ahead of him, Bijan Gibbs, Genti. Right. But you look behind and you have question marks for a lot of those guys, right? Like Jonathan Taylor in a Dynasty is three years older than Devon Achan without a quarterback. And we don't like Jonathan Taylor without a quarterback right now. We'll see. He was a lot different player when Daniel Jones is quarterback. So they're. And in Hampton, like is the sample size big enough for you? They're not that. I mean I know he's younger than hm, but it's, it's a year, a year and a half, whatever. It's like, is that a difference maker enough for you to take him over HN and hope that he is what we think he is? A lot of good questions. Travion's in that same discussion. What the heck is Bucky Irving 20, 23 years old? Quinchon Judgins monster 22 years old. I think Dynasty running backs is a pretty fun, fun area. Fun discussion. As long as I'm right about everything so that my teams are good. That's the important part.

[Mike Wright]

It's a fantasy running back man. It changes so rapidly which is ironically.

[Jason Moore]

That'S where age versus contract. You know, you talk about the two years difference in Hampton, stable position in Los Angeles. So it's one of those like, yeah, you're only two years younger or older, but how many years do you have left on your current contract? Like Jonathan Taylor just got a big new contract. So that's helpful. When you're 27, you have fewer worries.

[Andy Holloway]

Hn end up with a big contract in Miami because he's going to, he's. It's a.

[Mike Wright]

He will end up with a big contract somewhere.

[Andy Holloway]

Like to me this is like Miami.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. I don't think so.

[Andy Holloway]

What's Gibbs contract situation?

[Mike Wright]

He, he's got to be up for it.

[Andy Holloway]

This, I mean him and HN are probably both up for it this year, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, both. Gibbs is going into year four, so he'll have the, you know, his fifth year optional get picked up. But this is about when you start rewarding players.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Elite players.

[Andy Holloway]

Anyways, let's take a quick break, come back with some more questions.

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[Andy Holloway]

From the website Brad in Mesa, Arizona on the Andy side of the desk what is up with Newman's glasses?

[Jason Moore]

What is up with Newman's head? Oh no. Newman. Newman is decapitated by Andy so well.

[Mike Wright]

The ground did that part.

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

Spitballers episode that released yesterday. We had some debates where I was exceptionally accurate and right about them and these guys were buffoons and it was all about ice cream and I got a little out of control and I may have knocked him off the desk. I don't know what's happened with his glasses. Those are long gone.

[Jason Moore]

He can't see anything right now.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

But that's what happened. No. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Happened. Because Andy doesn't really know anything about mixins.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

So true.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll just let people go find out why you said that. No. From Instagram. Brian Thomas Jr. Or Marvin Harrison Jr. Next year.

[Jason Moore]

The stinky, stinky, nasty stink.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you imagine, I mean, that combo for a dynasty team you thought you were set for. You thought you were set for 10, 15 years.

[Mike Wright]

You were with the Eagles, bro. You were soaring.

[Andy Holloway]

And now you're like, ooh, new.

[Mike Wright]

I.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

You have to go. You have to go one of them, right?

[Mike Wright]

Because. Okay, Lawrence and the offense, that's who I'd prefer to bet on. The Liam Cohen Duval system seems to be very good for fantasy football, except. Except he was in it this year while everyone was having success around him.

[Andy Holloway]

What I was going to say is, you have to go, Marv. That's what I thought I was going to say, but I don't know if that's the right answer. But that's how I want to answer.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going. I'm going. Brian Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

I've got Marv.

[Mike Wright]

I want to make sure my race.

[Jason Moore]

I've got Marv quite a few spots ahead of Brian Thomas. Marvin Harrison back to back.

[Mike Wright]

I just got to flip one spot, guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think it's a shoot.

[Andy Holloway]

I got Brian Thomas Jr. Two spots ahead.

[Jason Moore]

A little bit more of an easy Marvin Harrison.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I make them both lower?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Brian Thomas Jr. Played the whole season and didn't do hardly anything other than drop a ton of targets early in the year and.

[Andy Holloway]

Then show you this Marv guy and.

[Jason Moore]

Then get usurped and then get usurped by Parker Washington and, you know, and the system. Marvin Harrison got injured, tried to play through it, couldn't. Then missed a chunk of the season. In his sophomore year. I. To me, I feel like Marvin Harrison is maybe a good trade for target because people are viewing him as a bust, and I don't think he's correct. Yeah. And I don't think he is. I don't think he is established.

[Mike Wright]

You already know one of Jason's guys.

[Jason Moore]

So I don't think he has established himself as a bust.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me. Let me give you funny numbers. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

They better make me laugh.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So Marv missed four games.

[Mike Wright]

Not funny.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, not funny.

[Andy Holloway]

Brian Thomas Jr. Missed three. BTJ ended 48 for 707. Marvin ended 41 for 608?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, kind of couple of farts.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, it was bad, but from the injury.

[Andy Holloway]

How about before the injury? He was on pace for 990. 64 for 990. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Before the injury. Yeah. I mean, if he got 10 more yards and hit 1,000, would you say no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Thousand is not. One thousand is not that.

[Mike Wright]

Who's playing? Just to dumb everything down in the new Arizona offense. Who's Puka?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, look. Who's Michael Wilson?

[Mike Wright]

That between Marv and Michael asking the same question? Yes, but I asked it first.

[Andy Holloway]

I think. I think you are asking that right question. And I think it is. To me, it's.

[Jason Moore]

It's.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Wilson is much more of a threat right now. Could Marv become that? Does Marv getting the clean slate? Because this is one of two directions from our this year. There's either year three, figures it out and it works and you've got a better coordinator. And then his dad and everybody can say, look, this was the problem. It wasn't my son. The other option is the like, they're getting the stamp and they're hitting the pad and they're putting bus down on the piece of paper. You go three years.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Drafted in the top five.

[Mike Wright]

Brian Thomas has at least done it. So I would go that direction.

[Andy Holloway]

Dude, I don't like this.

[Mike Wright]

I want in season back.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like this question was written by Mike Instagram. Question from T Y. How many championships total for each person on the pod?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I did not ask this question. So let's just do the most important league.

[Jason Moore]

League of Rams. I have four in that league. Four, three, two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Andy is the three. I am the two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Four.

[Andy Holloway]

Three, two.

[Mike Wright]

Four is the most of.

[Andy Holloway]

If you go. If you go to our dynasty league, it's two to two, right?

[Mike Wright]

Correct. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But in Al's got one back there. Oh, no. Josh. Josh, you have. Are you one league of record or two?

[Andy Holloway]

Let's go. Deucers out.

[Jason Moore]

One on league and one in Dino.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

And if you go to Dino Jr. Then Mike and I dominate that with our three in a row.

[Andy Holloway]

This question is stupid. It won't make you laugh. It'll make you cry. New Wallace, would you ever let the Falcon host?

[Jason Moore]

Would you ever drink poison? Oh, my gosh. Would we let the house.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you ever make a reclining chair out of cactus? I mean, host what the show?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, don't start that.

[Mike Wright]

Hold on. All right, Go to the Deucer Cam. Matt Marvin Harrison Jr. Or Brian Thomas Jr. In a dynasty league. Which one do you want and why? Marv and I don't know why exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'd probably just go Draft capital.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, perfect. Mike, excellent work.

[Mike Wright]

We have answered your question.

[Andy Holloway]

That was outstanding. That was outstanding. Amazing. All right. At least we didn't get a E. Salazar wants to Marv plan.

[Jason Moore]

I thought for a second, I thought.

[Mike Wright]

It was gonna happen.

[Jason Moore]

I thought for a second he said Marvin Harrison and just didn't answer anything beyond that. And I think he honestly forgot and then heard the follow up question in his mind of like and why he's.

[Andy Holloway]

Getting married pretty soon. I am worried about him up on that altar.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

You're not doing your own vows, right? You just have to say no.

[Andy Holloway]

You've got the.

[Mike Wright]

I do, Blair.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah. I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

Got to make sure there's a good film crew there. There's going to be some special put.

[Andy Holloway]

The press outs prediction for the number one overall pick next year. E. Salazar writes in. Number one overall fantasy pick, Bijon.

[Mike Wright]

Bijon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'll say that I don't have any problem with people taking one of.

[Jason Moore]

The three wide receivers correct.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the three wide receivers, which would be Jamar Chase, Puka, Nakua and jsn. And jsn. Scott writes in. Do you think the retreading of NFL coaches is caused by the lack of a desire and talent of college coaches wanting to go to the NFL? Life's all right. As a college coach. I'm going to say that right now you can get paid some big money.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think it's that.

[Andy Holloway]

It'S a different game.

[Mike Wright]

It's. Yes, it's much different. Your skills and talents and abilities. I mean, you got to be able to like really, you got to be able to recruit players in college. I don't think it is that. It's just. It's a really, really hard, demanding job and you are publicly screwed. Not you're rewarded handsomely with money, but you're in the public eye and you more often than not just have everyone telling you how much they hate you and how bad you are at your job.

[Andy Holloway]

Which job? The college one or the pro one?

[Mike Wright]

The pro one.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean it. Coaching in general is just the craziest career. It just is. Like all jobs, all coaches, they get fired. That's just part. If part of your job is to regularly move on, you either get fired or move on. There's not like a permanence to any of it. It's a hard life to have a family with. Right. You're moving around the country all the time, raising your kids in different cities and getting run out of town and getting things written about your dad in the newspaper. And even if you're just a wild.

[Jason Moore]

Job, even if you're not a head coach, I mean, let's say you're an assistant, okay? You're good. Well, then you move on and up. So maybe you move teams. Let's say you're fine, you're not bad, you're not going to get fired. The head coach is going to get fired. What happens when he gets fired? You're gone.

[Andy Holloway]

Your staff is gone.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's just, this is a. That is a yuck, yuck job.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean. Yeah, that's one way to put it.

[Jason Moore]

I would personally, if I could choose, I would choose to be the owner of the franchise.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the kind of job, coaching where you could win like, I don't know, six Super Bowls, not even make the hall of Fame, not even get the respect of the hall of Fame. That is going to do it. Ultimate Draft Kit.com for the pre order right here, right now.

[Mike Wright]

Go over there.

[Andy Holloway]

You can access the Dynasty Pass in the app immediately, so you'll want to check that out. Thanks for joining us today. We'll catch you on Thursday. Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.

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